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Speaker 1: get them open. With Kevin Langford. Good morning, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: It's the combination lock.

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Speaker 2: right sequence. You see, success is sequential, not simultaneous.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, there we go. And that's why they selected you,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's a big deal. It's a big

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Speaker 1: How you feeling, Carl, I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm still learning,

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Speaker 2: Man, right on, right on. It makes you an excellent

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Speaker 1: You see. Well, the key is you got to listen.

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Speaker 2: And today is just you know, another great day as

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Speaker 2: On the tenth of December, Karl, thanks for your time

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Speaker 1: All right, fifteen out of the top aut Sister Pam Africa,

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, and I guess want to see

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Speaker 1: So well, let's let's talk about they had a rally

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Speaker 4: But yes, it was forty four years since you and

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the sister pam before you tell

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Momia bou Jamal was a young black youngist

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Speaker 4: All right, So I was getting ready to sing moon

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Speaker 4: You know, Moonia's running across the streets. I'm not quite

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Speaker 4: That was nothing that Mumia went through that resembled a

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Speaker 1: So I'm right, well, let me help you out there,

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Speaker 4: Right right, Well, in France, the president, late President Jock

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Speaker 4: The French President Jock Sharrock would said it in the

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Speaker 4: and uh, you know, on several days they had brought speakers,

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Speaker 4: they brought me. Uh, I was part of a dudation

435
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Speaker 4: that was brought over there to present we Miya's case.

436
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Speaker 2: You know on.

437
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 4: Um you know, on their TV station. And uh, you know,

438
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: we spent time with president through your castle. They took

439
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 4: us on tours. You know, you're dealing with the prisons,

440
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 4: dealing with the communities and stuff, you know, and was

441
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: also getting asked, was given information on you know, what

442
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: if he's seen as some things that we needed to

443
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: be doing. And also you know that trip was you know,

444
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 4: a really good trip. But I'm talking about presidents of

445
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 4: countries I'm talking about the son of Kwame and Tuma.

446
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: You know, I'm talking about the us daughter of rich

447
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 4: You're right, the sons of w E b du Bois

448
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 4: and you know, the daughter of the great great great

449
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Speaker 4: granddaughter of.

450
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Speaker 7: God.

451
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: And also we should share with the family too, Sister Pama.

452
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: This is this is a little town outside of Paris,

453
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: a suburb of Paris named for MoMA. The streets name

454
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: for MoMA. So it's just it's just not you know,

455
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: just not a local event here. People have seen the

456
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: injustice that uh for me as undergud has been has

457
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 1: been in concentrated. Now what is it how many years now,

458
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: sister Pound forty four?

459
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: Forty four? Uh?

460
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: And because you know, telling how the support and what

461
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: it is they had done in or to get moved.

462
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 4: You know, people, and I'm not just talking about friends.

463
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: I'm talking about and I'm talking about Germany, I'm talking

464
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 4: about all throughout Africa. I'm talking about in the jungle

465
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: as people are saying they are a exhibition that there

466
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 4: is a poster of a movement had moved Jamal, you know,

467
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: because he's innocent and you know, we're giving a gift

468
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: to me, I say, and or you know, to test

469
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: our humanity and or you know our stand for you know, righteousness.

470
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: And you know, how is it that this young brother

471
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: and all four black grew up in the projects of

472
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 4: North to Valdulphia rise to be this international figure where

473
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 4: France came over and did battle here. You know, I'm

474
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 4: talking about physical not physical mental bout things with you know,

475
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 4: the governments here. They wasn't going to allow them to

476
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 4: say that, you know, their people was being duped by us,

477
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: you know, duke by us into having them think that

478
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 4: Moonia was guilty of you know, of of murder and

479
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 4: or you know, they said not to the investigation, but

480
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 4: they you know, the people here, and it was in

481
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Speaker 4: city council. It was in city council. I bring up

482
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Speaker 4: the name of who oh John Street was the president

483
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Speaker 4: of the city council there.

484
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Speaker 3: Now believe you know, they.

485
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Speaker 4: City council was going to send all their people over

486
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: there and some other people to represent this side, you know,

487
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: this side and or to show that Moony is guilty,

488
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: is guilty, And they told they didn't have to worry.

489
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: This was the friend said, and all we welcomed you

490
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: over here. We'll pay your fare for being over there.

491
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: These are real lived, true stories and all.

492
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Speaker 8: You know.

493
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Speaker 4: And they said, but they was bringing I was to

494
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: be on on on the other side, and uh, I

495
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: think it was gonna be Lennox Hines and uh some

496
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: community activists. I think at that particular time, it might

497
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 4: have been two students here. A student here, Leslie Jones,

498
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: who had graduated from Temple and she was a young

499
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: activist that was dealing, uh, you know with the issues

500
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: of prison incarceration, and uh, they gave him a list

501
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 4: of who was coming and Ramona they didn't come. Oh

502
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: you know who was with us too, and uh the

503
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 4: daughter the sons of Ethel and Julius Rosenberg, and or

504
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 4: who was also gonna be on the side where we

505
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: were at was mayors and you know people investigators and

506
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 4: or you know, for you know, this is actually how

507
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: they they wound up doing their curriculum or Morena and

508
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: or and that was to deal with the lives that

509
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: was being put on in the United States about you know,

510
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 4: the French involvement, you know, with the case of Mona

511
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 4: that Mumia you know was uh was guilty from saying

512
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: these things and uh, and the fact that the entire

513
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: West Coast people listening to we talking about this young

514
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: brother from to Philadelphia, our native sons, and or they

515
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: shut the entire West coast down for two days one

516
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: one day they had a walk off. This was for

517
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: more Mia. It wasn't a hitting agenda that you know,

518
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 4: we're doing this for you know, for Morena and or

519
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: for our native sun here, for our old and or

520
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 4: you know. To have that done and Or took a

521
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: whole lot of organized and took a whole lot of

522
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 4: teaching of who MoMA is. And Uh that particular day,

523
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 4: the police you know, and know because the UH people

524
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 4: was also while they were shutting it down, we were

525
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: doing millions for more Mia. Angela Davison, a lot of

526
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: other people got arrested protesting that day. So I'm saying

527
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: the issue MoMA just going around, going around, going around,

528
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: and more and more people. This is one of the

529
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 4: things I never forget. And uh, looking at Daniel Farkner's

530
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: wife more than falkl and this when we were twenty

531
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: years into this, they could not believe edwind Dell said

532
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: this that same thing. He was, um, you know, one

533
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: of them, you know, white mayors and one of the

534
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: one of the monsters you know here that's in in

535
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 4: government and h he was, you know, like they couldn't

536
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: understand how this movement for the life of more miir

537
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: how the movement for move nine until they got our jail.

538
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: But Mia, how is it existing now that you can

539
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: bring massive amount of people from you know, from from

540
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 4: around the world. This is where it was at, you know,

541
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 4: yesding the demonstration and.

542
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: You will how right there is, Sister Pam. I'll let

543
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: you when we come out. We gonna check the news

544
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: when we come back though, tell us about the rally,

545
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: the march, the demonstration from Mama that took place to

546
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: Andy yesterday. Family, you two can get in on this

547
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: conversation with Sister Pam Africa. She's from the move organization

548
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and she's working closely to help Abu Jamal,

549
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: a political prisoner in Pennsylvania. You want to join this conversation,

550
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero

551
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

552
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: after the news that's next and Grand Rising family, thanks

553
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: for waking up with us on this Wednesday morning. It's

554
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: a humpday. That means we're halfway through the work week

555
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: at sixteen minutes away from the Tom Davil, I guess

556
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: the sister Pam Pam Africa from the Move organization in Philadelphia.

557
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: There's a big rally for Mama Abou Jamal on Tuesdays.

558
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: She's finding a report for us before we go back

559
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: to her the let me just remind you. Later this morning,

560
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna speak to holistic and medical conventional medical doctor

561
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Dr A. She's going to issue a report card on

562
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Black Women's Health report Card. That's what's

563
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: going to issue. And if you have any health concerns, male, female,

564
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: you got health concerns, you have a chance to speak

565
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: to a real doctor who also can give you either

566
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: the traditional responses you need or if you want a

567
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: holistic response, a natural pathic response, you can do both.

568
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: She's dual, so she'll be here coming up later this morning.

569
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: Before we speak with her, though, we're gonna speak to

570
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Speaker 1: one of Malcolm's daughters, doctor Elias Shabaz. It's going to

571
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: be a centenary reading of Malcolm's autobiography book that was

572
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: done by Alex Haley, so she'll shared with us all

573
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: about what that's all about. And later this week. Actually tomorrow,

574
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: civil rights activist William maccassa Rix will be here along

575
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: with the economist doctor Julianne Malvaux. So if you are

576
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, make sure your radio's locked in tight on

577
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: ten ten WLB or if you're in the DMV, run

578
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty WL. All right, sister Pam Africa, tell us

579
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Speaker 1: what happened on Tuesday? How did this rally start? And

580
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: wait did it end?

581
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 6: Right?

582
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: Well, it started in Philadelphia at Uncle Bobby's and it

583
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 4: ended at my honud prison. It was a twelve day march.

584
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: And I want to say the reason why people you

585
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 4: know marched and why they ended it at my Honnuyed

586
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 4: prison because it was forty four years ago that you know,

587
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: the government tried to take MoMA out on December ninth.

588
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 4: This was the da get a cop was was killed.

589
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 4: But people are the biggest thing that people was coming

590
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: is about the innocence of Momeir and to continued to

591
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 4: continue and or a tenth of this government when they

592
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: did not when he failed during December nineth eighty one

593
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 4: to kill Momeir and you know he was in prison

594
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 4: over thirty years on death row and in had time.

595
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: You know, Molia had coals and things and uh, and

596
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: these people are so sure that they was gonna kill

597
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: him then that you know, they didn't really go the

598
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 4: extra steps you know, on him in torture. But when

599
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 4: Moulia will read the people. But enough pressure on this

600
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 4: government and they lifted that death wide off of Mona

601
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 4: and uh they at this particular point they vowed and

602
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: he vowed in the open air on on TV, you know,

603
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 4: with the news media, what they was gonna do to

604
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: Mona and all. You know, they said that once he

605
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 4: step off of death row, he gonna see what hell

606
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 4: is he? They wanna make sure he burned in hell.

607
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: MoMA has been sick, you know, in fact, in order

608
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: to come off of death row and or you gotta

609
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: take meals and or it's a whole lot of things

610
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: that you gotta go through to go into general you know, population,

611
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 4: and Moulia had to go through all those different you

612
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 4: know things.

613
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, for a second, how's his health. How's

614
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: he doing now? Because we know he's been having some

615
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: health challenge. He's a a while in prison. How's he

616
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: doing now?

617
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: Can this is this is why people are doing the demonstration.

618
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 9: You know here and now you.

619
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Speaker 4: Had doctor Ricardo Alvarez on the show. In fact, you

620
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 4: know your shows and dealing with Mona. It's historical shows

621
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: and you know, showing you know, the conspiracy and or

622
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: you had experts on there telling you what, you know,

623
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 4: what was happening. He tried several times, you know, to

624
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 4: kill Momea. And this one right here is dealing with

625
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 4: the eyes. You know, if these people wasn't so wicked,

626
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: and because Mumi was having problems with his eyes and

627
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: he thought it was you know it it was just

628
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 4: cadillacs and they was refusing. They were doing everything, putting

629
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: things off so that things can worse. So you know,

630
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 4: the movement, you know, drew our you know, we wanted

631
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 4: to you know, want him to get his eyes checked.

632
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: Make a long story short, and uh we wind up

633
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 4: getting outside our themologists in order to go over the

634
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: records of Momeir and dealing with you know, from from

635
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: the beginning of his health all the way up now,

636
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: and you find a written and their words and all

637
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: my lack of doing things that they knew what they

638
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 4: were supposed to do, a conspiracy to commit murder and

639
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 4: are in the courtrooms. I'm saying, you know why we

640
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 4: march and or to continue to bring attention to the

641
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: case of MoMA, because see, there wasn't one let MoMA

642
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: offered death for all and h there was the pressure

643
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: and or the consistent pressure of the people. I don't

644
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: care what the number was or anything. We had been

645
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 4: saving more MIA's life ever since. He's you know, been

646
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 4: in here and now there at the point here again

647
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: where Molia has a h rent a problem that could

648
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 4: really expose you know, at any time and according to

649
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 4: their doctors, because what she said and or you know

650
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: a while ago, is this osthemologist you know who looked

651
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 4: at the paperwork, she said, if Monia was my patient

652
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 4: and or you know he today is Friday, she said,

653
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: you know, we'll have him, you know, in the operation

654
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: first thing Monday morning, and because they would have to

655
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 4: do tests and ah.

656
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: So you know this is where we're at.

657
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: You know, we wound up vitting and all these records

658
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: and expose Nettle things. You know what's going on with him?

659
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you again, because I'm

660
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt you. Sister Pama tan away from the top,

661
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: but Minister Falcon tried to get him some medical health

662
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: as anybody else and that was turned down by the

663
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: prison officials. Has anybody else any other health? Uh, folks

664
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: will trying to help Mama with his current situation.

665
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, right, yeah, you know, and and I really

666
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: think the minister because when he did that and they

667
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 4: turned him down and or you know, it just put

668
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: it out there more and all had more you know,

669
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 4: more people. It's like, you know, yo, what so anyway,

670
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: even to the part that's etched in your mind to

671
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: the day that Minister Phara Coon and said that, you

672
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: know they'll you know, get doctors.

673
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 3: You know they are for you know, for more mia.

674
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 4: But I say that to say, here's a doctor by

675
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 4: the name of Joseph Harris and Or who came to

676
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: the demonstration yesterday. He was the doctor who after the

677
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: minister Coon you know, couldn't get doctors and and he

678
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: was a doctor that was with doctors without borders. He

679
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: was a panther and all you know, some people say

680
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 4: former panther, but you know, I'm to understand, once a panther,

681
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: always a panther, real panthers. He seeing this condition that

682
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: was happening with MoMA in order had people in horror

683
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: and just needed MoMA was gonna die up in there.

684
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 4: He identified it as a form of this is without touching, momir,

685
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 4: this is that looking in his eyes, looking at his

686
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: skin and or you know, just doing you know that

687
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: whole physical you know thing you know with his you know,

688
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: with his eyes. When he diagnosed MoMA with hepatitis C.

689
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 4: That's exactly what was happening. They was treating MoMA for

690
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 4: several other things. And in his case, if people go

691
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: and pick up you know, four days in Scranton, you

692
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 4: see uh in that trial there you'll see a conspiracy

693
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: to commit murder. Nobody went to jail, but Moulia wounded

694
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: up with you know, of the medical treatment that was

695
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: needed while we march and or to you know, let

696
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 4: people know, Mumia body can't take too much more. We

697
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: just lost you know, whether jamil our means from you know, uh,

698
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: political plotting and all you knew judicial plottum and all

699
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: you know to kill him. And he finally sucme and

700
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: know because his body could not take no more of

701
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: what it was that they were doing. But you know

702
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: him and brother kam Ousadchi and all you know, it's

703
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 4: a lot of other political prisons and we march and

704
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: off for them. We march for the elders in these

705
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: prisons that are going through this torture. We marched for

706
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 4: the young folks and all, you know, it's it's just

707
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 4: you know, and when you're able to pull people from

708
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: all over, they march through the mountains and you know,

709
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: in the snow, and you know, if you go to

710
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 4: YouTube march for mo Mia, you'll see. But what they

711
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: also saw and experience in this march, the loveliness, the

712
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: carrying of people and all because people welcome, you know,

713
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: the marchers in and uh they set up food and

714
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: people from the community was bringing them food. And you know,

715
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: the last day of the event and on the Islamic

716
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: Center opened the doors and they fed everyone. There was

717
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 4: a brother who they ordered some Jamaican food from them

718
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: while you know, on this march, and they told the

719
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 4: story of Momea. And this was on a Sunday on Monday.

720
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: The brother was closed and all he got in back

721
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: called them back from the number that they ordered from

722
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 4: to let them know he will open his doors up

723
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: for the marchers and he will feed each and every

724
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: last one of them.

725
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: And you know, and the food was good and.

726
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: You know, the community opened. You were up their doors

727
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 4: and you know, they had like a teaching about the

728
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: elder abuse, about what was happening with withlea, political prisons.

729
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: They stopped at the underground railroad, you know, houses and

730
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: uh and it was teaching because it was a very

731
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 4: teachable moment, and not only on momir, but the history

732
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: of you know, of you know, of our battles and

733
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: oh you know with this government, you know, and you

734
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: know people will say, you know, you know, well what

735
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: did you get out of it? And the mere fact

736
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: that you have enjoyed more people we have youth and

737
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 4: all that, you know another you know, in these forty

738
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: four years, I've seen people come, I've seen people go.

739
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: I've seen people be young folks and or to the

740
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 4: point that their parents and their grandparents. You know, now

741
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: these generations of seeing youth come, seeing you know, people come.

742
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying that you say on December ninth, nineteen, I

743
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: mean twenty twenty five. And you know, it was like

744
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 4: a rejuvenation because it was people. I did something that

745
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 4: I didn't usually do, moumea call then and I wanted

746
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: him to feel the thing of the people that was

747
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: there and everybody want to say something to momeir. So

748
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: what I did I put the mind, you know, so

749
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: that each person can say, like you know, I'm i'm

750
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 4: system of lay laying off of West Philadelphia, and you know,

751
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 4: and each person and we were shocked to find out

752
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 4: people was there from a Lasier and all people was

753
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 4: there from California and a people of all you know,

754
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: you know, walks in life, doctors and ministers and a

755
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 4: you know, all these people were standing on the front

756
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: line for more MILLA and people still where they told

757
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: you you cannot stand. It was right there to their

758
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 4: interest call cause was allowed. They set up the uh

759
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 4: the sound system and you know, they get a whole

760
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 4: teach in there. I'm saying, they no power like the

761
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: power the people, because they used you when we come

762
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 4: up there and demonstrate in smaller numbers, and you know,

763
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 4: they said, well you have to be on the other

764
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 4: side of the street. They march right on up into

765
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: they didn't go past that you know, main entrance into

766
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 4: the prison. And we had a food truck that they

767
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: paid money so that everybody can eat a black food

768
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: truck when you know, doing the food that was there.

769
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: We took that entire side up. And you know, and

770
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: I say we because I'm one of the people. I

771
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: was not the organizers.

772
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 10: You know, you know of it, you know.

773
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: Roger all the tuff, But the Sister Pam, we got

774
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: to check the traffic and weather and our different seas.

775
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: So I'll let you finish your thought when you get back. Also,

776
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: because I saw pictures of the rally and it was

777
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: in the racial group, you wouldn't know that all these

778
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: folks black, white, brown are coming together for me abou

779
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: Jamal a family. If you's just waking up, this is

780
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: what Sister Pam Africa from the movie organization and sharing

781
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: with us this morning. You want to like to speak

782
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: to her, reach out to us at eight hundred four

783
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

784
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: your phone calls after the trafficking, weather, the snacks and

785
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: grand rising family. Thanks for waking up with us on

786
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning. So hum day. We're halfway through the

787
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: work week with our guests. Sister Pam Africa. She's reporting

788
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: on a rally a marsh for about Jamal that concluded

789
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. So let me ask you this though. At

790
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: the Sister Pan Africa I'll let you finish your thought.

791
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: But when you finished that, because there was some concern

792
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: about Jamail Amen who passed away recently in Georgia and

793
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: almost the same thing political prisoner and refused medical help.

794
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: So did were you was this sort of concerning when

795
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: you heard the Jamai l Amn also known as h

796
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: rap Brown passed away and indeed of medical assistance and

797
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: the same thing's going on with with Moa Abu Jamal.

798
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: Were you concerned when you heard the death of Jamel Amel? Oh?

799
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 4: Yes, and you know, and you know you'd be thinking

800
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: that you're prepared for because Kyrie, you know whether Jamil

801
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: allen Son and you know he had prepared people, and

802
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 4: you know they gave a timeline and anytime they you

803
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 4: your timeline, you can either go past that or you

804
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 4: if they give you sixty days, you might go on

805
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: the week and are you each where between that? So

806
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: we was preparing ourselves, you know, for for but you

807
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 4: know when you hear it, it's still like, oh my god,

808
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 4: my inside felt like it was going to drop. As

809
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 4: I was standing, you know there, I had to get

810
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: a seat and sit down, and then I reflected on

811
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 4: you know, the examples the great examples and all you

812
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 4: know they say he going he not going in or

813
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 4: just like oh, our other people you know, they live

814
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 4: in our hearts and or you know they live on

815
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: video on the audio and things and all you know,

816
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 4: the lessons that they are, the examples that they have

817
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: put forth before us, and all you know of how

818
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: you know how to deal and all you know and

819
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 4: examples of like you know, families and things. We got

820
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: good examples out of you know, his brother's you know,

821
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 4: level of life as we see it, and all you know,

822
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 4: you know, I know he's sitting at the foot with

823
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 4: your ancestors, and you know we getting too certain jams.

824
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: Certain things that people say come to our minds, and

825
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: all that's them touching us again and or you know,

826
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 4: reminding a lot of the things that I can.

827
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 11: Be involved in.

828
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: It be the ancestors, you know, it be that the

829
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 4: source of life for all people that touch us and

830
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: have us do and put us on a certain path

831
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 4: that you just can't come off of, and you know,

832
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: it becomes your way of life. And also I'm so

833
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 4: grateful that you know, I know that brother Jamil, our

834
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: means lives in the level of what I'm talking about

835
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 4: you know.

836
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: Africa, because we're going to talk about another brother. It

837
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: was so impawerful in many of us our lives, and

838
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: that'll be brother Malcolm. But before we do that, though,

839
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: because we've got doctor standing by, she saw Malcolm, one

840
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: of Malcolm's daughters and they're having a big celebration event

841
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: for brother Malcolm. We're going to talk about that momentarily.

842
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: But before we let you go, sister Panma Africa, what's

843
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: next for Mama Abu Jamal is? Are we're gonna anticipate

844
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: a health update or is the struggle still on to

845
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: free him? Or your thoughts real quick?

846
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 4: Yes? And you can go to Mobilization for more Mia

847
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 4: dot com the March for more Mia and you know,

848
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 4: get a lot of information and dealing with his health

849
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 4: and our next steps and we're coming down after this one.

850
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: Our next step is always the same step. You know,

851
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: you know, stay consistent and you know, you know, getting

852
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: information our for more mea urging people to go and

853
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 4: you know on Netflix, on YouTube, you know, you know,

854
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: any kind of social media and or you'll find the

855
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 4: facts in this case, Oh might I say, you know

856
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 4: the other side and are showed up at our administration.

857
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: It was three people that had Daniel Faulkland signs and uh,

858
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 4: you know, and they meant to intimidate, look react like

859
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: they wasn't even there. They were so frustrated they started

860
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 4: housing little things cross the street. And know what I'm saying,

861
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: we were doing what it is that we have to

862
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 4: do it and all that and the g toy put

863
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 4: us all there. It was so magnificent, it was so strong.

864
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 4: So to continue these things and all people can get

865
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 4: you know, videos, show 'em in you know, uh you know,

866
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 4: in their homes and uh, I do know that we're

867
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 4: planning on shutting Philadelphia down on April twenty fourth for

868
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 4: Mere's birthday, but there will be events leading up to

869
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: that and for people that's in the New York area

870
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: December twelfth. On December the twelfth this year is I'm

871
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: honors to be accepting the UH First Video or Plumber

872
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: Award along with brothers Aid Muhammad out of out of

873
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 4: Newark at the House of the Little Church this Friday.

874
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 4: So you know, we'll be giving you know, updates because

875
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 4: that brother made that entire march him and larry him

876
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: and you know, I got to give credit. What credit

877
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: is due. This was the baby of brother Steve and

878
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: I can't think this last name.

879
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, we're gonna the sister Pam because we got

880
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: the doctor Alisha Shabbas on deck. So listen. Thank you

881
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: for the work that you do. Thank you for keeping

882
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: us informed of what's going on with Mia and and

883
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: thank you for being one of our soldiers because you've

884
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: been out there on the streets for a long long

885
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: time and keep us in the loop of this event

886
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: that is going to take place later this month.

887
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 4: Sure will and I will keep my radio on my

888
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 4: Could you keep me a open line so.

889
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: I can hear the show, Kevin, see if you can

890
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: help out Sister Pam Africa there.

891
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 6: Uh.

892
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: Eight minutes after the top, they our family Grand Rising,

893
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: Doctor Elisha Shabaz, Welcome to the program.

894
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 12: Good morning, how are you.

895
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 6: It was so great to hear the young lady before me,

896
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 6: uh talking about mama.

897
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 13: Wow.

898
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what we do. That's what we do.

899
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. Take the name of us this morning. Let

900
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: me ask you first first off the top, who gave

901
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: you your name? Your first name?

902
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 10: My father?

903
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: Your father?

904
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: Yes and.

905
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 6: Okay yes, so so yeah, okay, so he named me

906
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 6: after Elijah. But my name actually means God is present.

907
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 6: It's an Arabic name, the name the language that Jesus spoke,

908
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 6: and it means God is present. My father named all

909
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 6: of his daughters.

910
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: So when you say your name after Elijah, was that

911
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: Elijah Muhammad? Yes, sir, all right, let's talk about this

912
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: event that's coming up.

913
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 6: Okay, well, Elijah Muhammad whatever. Well, so yes, where there is.

914
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 6: So this is my father's one hundredth birthday year and

915
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 6: with it is a new release Penguin uh One World

916
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 6: Random House release the one hundredth edition of the Autobiography

917
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 6: of Malcolm X. And it's a very beautiful the done book.

918
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 6: My eldest sister, Ambassador at Apaua Shabaz, she penned the

919
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 6: forward and it's just so beautiful and you know, touching.

920
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 6: It's it's powerful, it's inspirational, as is the autobiography. And

921
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 6: on Thursday, December eleventh, we will be petting towards the

922
00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 6: Symphony Space in New York City where Jama But now, Jill,

923
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 6: I don't have any of the information with me. Do

924
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 6: you have the information with you?

925
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: I've got some of the information you. I've got some

926
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: of the folks who are going to be speaking.

927
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 6: Okay, great, So we have a lot of the speakers

928
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 6: who will be a lot of distinguished individuals, actors, writers

929
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 6: and so forth who will powerful who will be doing

930
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 6: reading on Thursday right at seven pm at Symphony Space

931
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 6: and I'll do the introduction.

932
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: Actor Joe Morton will be one of the speakers. Is there,

933
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: Nicole Hannah Jones another one of the speakers. Johnny Cobb,

934
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: another one of the speakers, is going to be there

935
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: as well. So is this open to the public.

936
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 6: It's open to the public. Yes, tickets are on sale.

937
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 6: You can go to my Instagram, whether Shabbaz Center Instagram

938
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 6: or even Symphony Space and get tickets and see a

939
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 6: little bit more about what is happening on this Thursday.

940
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 6: You bring your family, your friends, your children, and you know,

941
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 6: come on down now.

942
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: They're going to read from the book from the because

943
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: you know many of us that book changed our lives.

944
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: I just personally changed my life. You know, had a

945
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: copy and lorded somebody else back then we just got hands.

946
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to read the book, The Autobiography of Malcolm X.

947
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: Is this this new version? Is it the color the same?

948
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: Is it's what's the difference between this version that's coming

949
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: out next year and the original.

950
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 6: Well, it's a new edition and you get to get

951
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 6: a hardcover copy because now you can only get a

952
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 6: paperback the autobiography of Malcolm. Well, that's not true, but

953
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 6: it's a it's a new image, it's a new cover.

954
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 6: But you know, the autobiography. It provides a framework for

955
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 6: how we can advance the legacy of humankind.

956
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: And it's truth.

957
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 6: And I think when many people talked about, uh, you

958
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 6: know how much this book and it's not just the book,

959
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 6: it's the words of Malcolm X, it's you know, inspired them,

960
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 6: awaken them, I think it is extremely important that we

961
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 6: make sure the next generation is able to receive it

962
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 6: in the same way that prior generations. We know, the

963
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 6: New York Times made it a bestseller, so you know,

964
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 6: it's an opportunity to rediscover the content in the book

965
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 6: and pass the legacy onto the next generation.

966
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,959
Speaker 1: That's a good idea. I like that because it changed,

967
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, it changed a lot of people's lives. Yeah,

968
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: young especially young black men growing up at that particular

969
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: time and reading this book, you go, wow, Wow, this

970
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: book that you talked about being powerful that is so

971
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: impactful and changing the lives of many many people. So

972
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad to know that this will now be introduced

973
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: to a new generation of young people. They know the

974
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: name Malcolm X, but they don't know what They've probably

975
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: seen Spike's movie, but they really don't know malc If

976
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying, Elasha, and.

977
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, that's right. And you know, for the

978
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 6: most part, we didn't know who we were. The world

979
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 6: didn't know who black people were. They didn't know who

980
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 6: the African diaspora. They didn't know much about the diaspora

981
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 6: only except for slavery and many people black, white, red, yellow, Muslims, Christians,

982
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 6: you know, Jewish people, et cetera. The world's over. I

983
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 6: think that it was the roadmap that articulates our individual

984
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 6: and our collective purpose. Right We're always wondering who, you know, like,

985
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 6: what is life about? And many people were able to

986
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 6: discover that in this autobiography and the words of my father,

987
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 6: how to move forward with an identity intact. I love

988
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 6: that it's a big history lesson in one chapter about

989
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 6: what happened in the world, how we got to be

990
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 6: where we are, which is so inspirational, you know, and

991
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 6: I think that that you know, so, you know, it

992
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 6: shows us how to move forward with an identity intact

993
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 6: with philosophies we've been invoking that helps to shape human possibility.

994
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 6: And that's what I carry and every single course that

995
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 6: I teach to my students. You know, I'm at Worcester

996
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 6: State University. Well I'm not at Worcester State University right now,

997
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 6: but I will be back in the fall at John J.

998
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 6: Koch wherever I teach, I make sure that I that

999
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 6: I provide a curriculum to my students where they understand

1000
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 6: their purpose in life. That everybody has one, everybody has

1001
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 6: a legacy. Each one of us will inevitably transition, We

1002
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 6: will inevitably pass away. And so what are we doing

1003
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 6: with our time while we're here? How can we make

1004
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 6: this life meaningful? Purposeful?

1005
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: You know, give it direction.

1006
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 6: I think a lot of it is in the autobiography

1007
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 6: of Malcolm Accent. It is why many people around the

1008
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 6: world continue to talk about how much this book changed

1009
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 6: their lives.

1010
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to pick up a new copy. I'm

1011
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: gonna keep this one for myself. But you're absolutely right, though,

1012
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: Doctor Elisha Shabbaz. This is Malcolm's daughter, third, the third

1013
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: of his daughters sixteen. Alf the top of that, we'll

1014
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: come with a break. I want to ask you though,

1015
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: when we get back from the break, what was it

1016
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: like growing up to being the daughter of Malcolm accent?

1017
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: Were you on any sort of pressure? Was that pressure

1018
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: on yourself? Did you feel you had to comport to

1019
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: how people they think about your dad and they think, well,

1020
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: you must be this way, or they expect you, or

1021
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing that because you're Malcolm's daughter. You

1022
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: know that kind of stuff. If you can share that

1023
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: with us, it'll appreciate it. Then we'll also talk about

1024
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: the events it's taking place tomorrow. Family, you want to

1025
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: speak to our guess, doctor Elisha Shabbas, reach out to

1026
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

1027
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take your phone calls and grand rising. Family.

1028
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: Thanks for starting your Wednesday with thiss. It's a humpday

1029
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: where halfway through the work week with our guest doctor

1030
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: Elisa Shabaz I pronouncing her name correctly. She's one of

1031
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: Malcolm's daughters and she's taking part in this celebration of

1032
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: a centenary of the new edition of the Autobiography of

1033
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: Malcolm X. If you listened to this program quite a bit,

1034
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: you've heard from some of Malcolm's other relatives like Roddale

1035
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: and Collins, and they planning a whole bunch of celebrations

1036
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: of four brother Malcolm next year, this entior of Malcolm X.

1037
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: And so keep listening you'll hear more.

1038
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 14: Well.

1039
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: Uh, Doctor Elisha is with us this morning and they're

1040
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: having an event. They're going to talk about the new

1041
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: edition of the Autobiography of Malcolm X. It's going to

1042
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: be a reading led by Jelani Cobb, and he's going

1043
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: to feature folks like actor Joe Morton and Nicole Hannah

1044
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: Jones and other folks are going to be there. We'll

1045
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: give you the whole list before she leaves. But before

1046
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: we left for the break, I was my question to

1047
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: you was did you feel any undue pressure growing up

1048
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: as being the daughter of Malcolm X.

1049
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 6: Emails. I always tell people that my mother, with her

1050
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 6: six daughters, who lives in Westchester County and we live

1051
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 6: in a bubble of her love, a protective wing. You

1052
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 6: can only imagine she saw her husband killed in front

1053
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 6: of her. She lives through her home being firebombed with

1054
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 6: four babies and pregnant with the twins, and you know,

1055
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 6: you have to ask yourself, how is someone able to

1056
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 6: overcome the trauma and you know, not be bitter. My

1057
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 6: mother went on, she got her doctorate, She raised six daughters.

1058
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 6: She gave us everything that you can imagine, a great school,

1059
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 6: summer camp in Vermont, history lessons, tutor lessons with shake tofique,

1060
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 6: you know, yoga, ballet, music, everything. And I often wondered

1061
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 6: how was she able to overcome that and still thrive,

1062
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 6: you know, still be loving and kind and thoughtful. She

1063
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 6: never accepted no, or I can't as an answer for herself.

1064
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 6: She said that it was her husband, who you know,

1065
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 6: gave her a better sense of her purpose as a mother,

1066
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 6: as a wife, as a woman, as a civic leader.

1067
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 6: And so she instilled that in all in her children,

1068
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 6: all these great values. Right our house was the lively

1069
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 6: house to come to because there were six girls there.

1070
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 6: And it wasn't until I went to college. I was fifteen.

1071
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 6: In July turned sixteen, I went to a pre you

1072
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 6: know pre camp thing went to camp. Everybody, I mean

1073
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 6: to college, Everyone's like, oh my god, you're Ncomis's daughter.

1074
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 6: And it was overwhelming because I had gone to an

1075
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 6: all girls prep boarding school. You know, I was living

1076
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 6: under the protective wing of Betty Shabaz, and there were

1077
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 6: just things that you did not know, did not learn.

1078
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 6: And you think that people are the same as they

1079
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 6: are within your household, right, that they're kind, that they're loving,

1080
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 6: that they're trustworthy, they have your best interests, and so yes,

1081
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 6: I was overwhelmed. And I remember calling my oldest sister

1082
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 6: and asking her who am I supposed to be as

1083
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 6: Malcolm X's daughter? What am I supposed to you know, do?

1084
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 6: And she said, you don't have to pass the test

1085
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 6: to be Malcolm's daughter, you already are. So those were

1086
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:31,479
Speaker 6: the kinds of expectations, I guess, you know which many

1087
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 6: young people experience expectations, bully, peer pressure and so forth.

1088
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 6: But I think the greatest gift that my parents gave

1089
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 6: me was the opportunity to love who I am as

1090
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 6: I am, and that was because of the history lessons

1091
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 6: that my mother made sure we learned. It was the

1092
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 6: art that represented us and the diaspora in our household.

1093
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 6: We learned about the significant contributions that win men made

1094
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 6: to the world, that Islam made to the world, and

1095
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 6: that the African diaspora as the first world nation right

1096
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 6: made to the world, and so that we were equipped

1097
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 6: to love who we were and not rely on others

1098
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 6: to determine our self worth. And I think it's because

1099
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 6: of that, you know, it enables me to see you

1100
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 6: as a reflection of me, and me as a reflection

1101
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 6: of you, and you know, and teach share do whatever

1102
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 6: I can when I see injustice of one kind against

1103
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 6: any human being. Right, and Islam taught us. You know,

1104
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 6: you believe in one God. Hence you believe in one man,

1105
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 6: one woman. Right, We're all the same. We're all God's children,

1106
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 6: We're all brothers and sisters under the fatherhood of God.

1107
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 6: So I didn't I'm not going to say that I

1108
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 6: had really huge challenges because whenever I had questions, I

1109
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 6: always went back to my mother, you know, or I

1110
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 6: went to my eldest sister and they explained it, and

1111
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 6: I thought, okay, well you know that, you know, because

1112
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 6: everything was like a It just it worked for me

1113
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 6: and I knew that they loved me, and I think

1114
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 6: that really made such a difference.

1115
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: Gotcha twenty five off the top of another person who

1116
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: loved Malcolm loved you as well. Peter Bailey is joining it.

1117
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: Stay's online one grandising Peter.

1118
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, Good morning, Peter Bailey, good morning,

1119
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 3: good morning.

1120
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 6: How you doing good A Peter Bailey, uncle A Peter Bailey,

1121
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 6: brother a Peter Bailey. Because I know you're like, well,

1122
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 6: wait a minute, now we're close in age.

1123
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: I know.

1124
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 6: That sounds good, doesn't it.

1125
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: And for the rest of the family, wait tell me

1126
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: here for a second, guys, for the rest of the family. E.

1127
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: Peter Bailey is a journalist, is one of the actually

1128
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: one of the last persons to speak to brother Malcolm

1129
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: before his assassination, and he's been close to the family

1130
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: ever since. I know you have a question for doctor

1131
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: Elisha Shabaz, Peter, No, I.

1132
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 3: Just listen to her what you're doing it And as

1133
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 3: I listened, I understood what she was saying because I

1134
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: knew her mother and her father and and they were

1135
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 3: the kind of people that you learned from and uh

1136
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: to me, they I referred to them as they were

1137
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 3: both master teachers. And I think it there's no more

1138
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 3: important a person in a in a in a child's life,

1139
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: and in a young person's life been a master teacher,

1140
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 3: and that is someone who is a serious human being

1141
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: who understands who told us about what the world is

1142
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 3: all about and him to who their pastor is on

1143
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 3: that it's mad two younger people. And so I regard

1144
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 3: uh brother Malcolm ANCESTRETI. They were both master teachers and

1145
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 3: and I learned from them. Uh and and they're both

1146
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 3: having tremendous uh responsibility for the things that I've been

1147
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 3: able to do. You know, since I've been around up,

1148
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: I tried to pass on the information about them when

1149
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 3: I speak to you know, to to to buy. So

1150
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: my family members and other young people today that that

1151
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 3: that both of them and this is what I tell

1152
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: both tell everybody that I talked to about them that

1153
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: they were both master teachers and and that if you

1154
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 3: want to if you're trying to know how we function

1155
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,959
Speaker 3: in this world, then you should read what they said,

1156
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 3: what they wrote and and and what they left us

1157
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: uh with people. So uh, that's that's critical for me

1158
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 3: the factory. They were both master teachers.

1159
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: Well, well let me ask he asked you this what

1160
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: Peter said about being master teachers and what your mother

1161
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: and your dad do you think that's why you sort

1162
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: of went into the profession as a teacher or professor.

1163
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 6: Well, you know, that was sort of accidental. You know,

1164
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 6: I started off I was going to be a medical doctor,

1165
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 6: and you know, something happened and education, you know, I

1166
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 6: went I mentored young people while I was in school,

1167
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 6: and I just saw that their fired, their light was out,

1168
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 6: and I didn't quite understand why. And then for me,

1169
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 6: it was just very important that they got the same

1170
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 6: kind of tutelage that my parents gave me, you know,

1171
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 6: and that was a curriculum that enabled and allowed them

1172
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 6: to love.

1173
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 3: Who they are just as they are.

1174
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 6: So my children's book Malcolm, the Boy Who Grew Up

1175
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 6: to Become X Malcolm Little, my my other books Growing

1176
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 6: Up X et cetera, et cetera. All of those books

1177
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 6: are so that when you turn a page, you're learning

1178
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 6: a little about history, you're learning some lessons, you're learning

1179
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 6: some values through the eyes of others. But and you're

1180
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 6: also seeing a reflection of yourself. Right, You're seeing a

1181
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 6: reflection of a person of the African you know, ancestry,

1182
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 6: and and you're learning, you know, about yourself. And it's funny,

1183
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 6: as I listened to a Peter Bailey saying that I

1184
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 6: realize and I'm so blessed and I feel so you know,

1185
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 6: grateful to have had my parents because my life has been,

1186
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 6: you know, a great learning experience and understanding. That's what

1187
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 6: all of our lives are about, right ris suppose to

1188
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 6: learn as much as we can and continue to evolve.

1189
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 6: And and that's what I saw in my parents, and

1190
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 6: you know, that's what I tried to give to others

1191
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 6: an opportunity so that they can, you know, can discover

1192
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 6: the same things I discovered as a young person.

1193
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, no, I was were saying and that

1194
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 3: that it's that teaching that us learning, and that that's

1195
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 3: the way we should present them when we talk about

1196
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 3: them people, you know people was they they are too

1197
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 3: often when people talk about but the Malcolm in sistervity,

1198
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: they would have made them sound almost super super human

1199
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 3: and they were like so much the public. They were not.

1200
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 3: They were human beings, just like we were and and

1201
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 3: and and but they were they were able to do

1202
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,839
Speaker 3: it they do because they both ought. They both learned,

1203
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: they understood the imported from learning. They read, they traveled,

1204
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 3: they uh uh kept on top of things, you know,

1205
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: they listened, to the radio, they watched television, and they

1206
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 3: did this because not for any any because they learned

1207
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 3: from them. And then the information that they learned from

1208
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 3: doing that they passed on to us.

1209
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: And and and to me.

1210
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 3: Uh, that whole process of learning and and we well

1211
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: see we don't see and especially in this in this

1212
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 3: country today, this the importance of learning and from from

1213
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: from from from important people from from uh, from people

1214
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 3: who who care about you, because you know, I that's

1215
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 3: the teacher cares and when you listen to them, you

1216
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 3: can see that they care. You can actually feel it

1217
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 3: that they care about uh. They care about you because

1218
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 3: they have time to give you and to prepare you

1219
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 3: to be able to continue doing on and pass it

1220
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: on to what they are. What they are passing on

1221
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 3: to you, they want you to pass on to someone else,

1222
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 3: and then that's someone else to pass it on to

1223
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 3: someone else, you know. So what I learned from brother Bulcolm,

1224
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: now I have great grandchildren, and I make sure that

1225
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 3: my great grandchildren uh A learning some of the things

1226
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 3: that I learned from him. And and to me, that's

1227
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 3: just absolutely critical. That's uh. When you when you take

1228
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: up what I think about today, what I think about

1229
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 3: my own you know, my birth and grandparents, and my

1230
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 3: mom and dad and those kind of folks. I think

1231
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 3: about what they taught me, what they taught me, and

1232
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 3: how what they taught me has to and they will

1233
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 3: be to to you know, to uh to be in

1234
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 3: this world that you know that we live in. And

1235
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 3: then I try to pass on what I have learned

1236
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 3: to you know, to to people under me. I shall,

1237
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 3: and I constantly tell what I was teaching. I constantly

1238
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: told my students, and I told the young members of

1239
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 3: our family that you must learn and that you must

1240
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 3: pass on theirs. And of course that another thing that

1241
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 3: brother Malcolm taught you never stop learning. The whole idea

1242
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 3: that you know, you get to a certain point in

1243
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 3: you know, where they don't need to know any more

1244
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: because no, no, no, but Malcolm believes that you learn.

1245
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 3: You as long as you were walking around on referth

1246
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 3: you were, you were learning and that and that that

1247
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 3: you should then help to pass on what you were

1248
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 3: learning to others who then passed on to others.

1249
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 5: You know.

1250
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 3: So this whole idea that that you know, that that

1251
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: the importance of learning knowing you sometimes you get the

1252
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 3: idea future where you know you do all that now

1253
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 3: you have to do anything that's just wrong. Man eighty

1254
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 3: seven though, right, and learning with us of.

1255
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: That, Peter, because we raised the clock and we come

1256
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: up on a break. And thank you for calling in,

1257
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 1: and thank you for speaking with Elasha, because I know

1258
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: you guys have history together, being her being the daughter

1259
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: of Malcolm and you being one of my Malcolm's in

1260
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: confidence and one of the last persons who actually speaks

1261
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 1: to brother Malcolm before the assassination of the Audubon ballroom.

1262
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 3: Thank you again, Peter, And I want to thank her

1263
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 3: for carrying on the lessons and the learning from things

1264
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 3: that we learn from our parents.

1265
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still learning you.

1266
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 6: Yes, that's right, thank you, that's right.

1267
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: Now. Actually, this this book that you said, this this

1268
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: the the new the new edition of Autobiography of Malcolm X.

1269
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: It's a hardcover, right, it's coming out.

1270
01:14:54,280 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 6: It's a yes, it is. It is coming out, And gosh,

1271
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 6: they gave me some information. Yes, it will be available

1272
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 6: on December eleventh at Symphony Space, and I believe after

1273
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 6: uh it will be available at many you know, the

1274
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 6: regular places where we get books, right.

1275
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: Because I was thinking it would make a great Quanta

1276
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: present you know, quands just coming up with people looking

1277
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: to exchange gifts. This would be the absolute best present

1278
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: for Quanta, absolutely. You know.

1279
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 6: I just want to just end this by saying, you know,

1280
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 6: when my father said that we didn't land on land

1281
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 6: on Plymouth Rock, the rock landed on us.

1282
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 15: Right.

1283
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 6: With that came the legacy of Christopher Columbus right, And

1284
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 6: in the autobiography.

1285
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 1: Can you hold that story for a second. We got

1286
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: to check the news and traffick sure tell that story.

1287
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: We got some folks want it. Talk to you as well. Family,

1288
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 1: he can join our conversations with doctor Elisha Shabbaz. She's

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Speaker 1: one of Malcolm's daughters and she's debut in this new

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Speaker 1: book The Well, a new edition of the autobiography of

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Speaker 1: Malcolm X, is going to be a reading taking place

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Speaker 1: in New York, and we're going to tell all about

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Speaker 1: the folks who are going to do with the readings.

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Speaker 1: People like Joe Morton's going to be there. They call

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Speaker 1: Hannah Jones and Moore. So we'll tell you all about

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Speaker 1: that when we get back. But we got to check

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Speaker 1: the news twenty four minutes away from the top there,

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Speaker 1: and we could take your calls and we speak with

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Speaker 1: doctor Elisha Shabaz after the news that's next. Thank you

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Speaker 1: family for rolling with us on this Wednesday morning, Grand

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Speaker 1: rising to those that you're just getting up, I guess

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Speaker 1: is doctor Elisha Shabba. She's the daughter of Malcolm X.

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Speaker 1: Before we go back to it, let me just remind

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Speaker 1: you come up later this morning. We're gonna speak with

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Speaker 1: U doctor doctor A. Doctor A is a holistic and

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01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: a conventional medical doctor. She got health concerns. You need

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Speaker 1: to speak to her. She's going to issue her report,

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Black Women Health Report coming up

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Speaker 1: and tomorrow we're going to be joined by civil rights

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Speaker 1: activists William Macossa Rix an economist, doctor Julie and Malvaux. So,

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Speaker 1: if you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep your

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Speaker 1: radio locked in tight on ten ten w LB. Or

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Speaker 1: if you in the Washington, DC Metropolitan here the d

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Speaker 1: m V you can keep your radio tuned in right

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Speaker 1: here on fourteen fifty w o L. All right, doctor

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Speaker 1: Elisha Shabaz, un, let you finish your thought. Most questions

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Speaker 1: people want, Oh.

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Speaker 6: My goodness, finish my sword. I don't even remember my sword,

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Speaker 6: but it's il Yasa, Doctor il Yasa.

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, like Elijah, but Elasha.

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Speaker 6: It's not like Elijah. It's il Yasa.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the event that's going to take place

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Speaker 1: tomorrow though, because this is this kicks off a year

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Speaker 1: long family spoke to RODNEYL. Collins, your cousin, and he

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01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 1: told us that there's a whole bunch of events are

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Speaker 1: taking place to because the one hundredth anniversary of Mac's birthday.

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Speaker 1: I guess this would be the first one. And this

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Speaker 1: is and you're gonna have a reading as people like

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Speaker 1: actor Joe Morton is going to be there, I know.

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Speaker 1: And this is good family. It's gonna take the Symphony

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Speaker 1: Space in New York City. And let me see if

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Speaker 1: the other folks are going to be Johanni Klob is

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Speaker 1: going to be there as well, Nicole, Hannah Jones, You're

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Speaker 1: also James James are going to be there, and you're

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Speaker 1: also going to.

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Speaker 6: Do James Morton. Now remember James Mortin was on Scandal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be there as well, Joe.

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Speaker 6: Morton, Joe Morriton, he was also Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Different parts.

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Speaker 6: There's going to be a yes, it's going to be

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Speaker 6: a discussion. They're going to be reading different parts. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's going to be a great evening. I know what

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Speaker 6: I was talking. I was talking about Plymouth. Uh when

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Speaker 6: my father, you know, I often when I look and

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Speaker 6: think of my father, I always hear him say, we

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Speaker 6: didn't land on Plymouth Rock. The rock lands it on us.

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Speaker 6: And I would look at the pictures of the people

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Speaker 6: in the audience. You know, they're in Harlem, they're on

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01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 6: the street, thousands and thousands of people, and I see

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Speaker 6: young boys looking up at my father, and women and

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01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 6: grown people. Because we did not know.

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Speaker 16: Who we were.

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Speaker 6: We didn't even know where we came from. And some

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01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 6: of us even still today, we don't know where we

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01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 6: came from. We don't know who we are. But we're

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01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 6: learning more and more. I think, you know, there's a

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Speaker 6: global consciousness of awareness which is just great. And you

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01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 6: know it's our young people. But I think the adults

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01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 6: we have to, you know, those of us who were

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Speaker 6: inspired by the autobiography of Malcolms New York Times Best

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Speaker 6: on the New York Times bestseller List since nineteen sixty

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Speaker 6: five sixty six, we have to make sure that we

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Speaker 6: are passing these books on to our children, that we

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Speaker 6: are passing this information on when my father said, we

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Speaker 6: didn't land on Plymouth Rock, the rock landed on us.

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Speaker 6: He unlifted. You know, the legacy of that Christopher Columbus,

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Speaker 6: you know, came with this notion of mis education. And

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Speaker 6: what I love from chapter ten t after eleven, it's

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Speaker 6: this whole.

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Speaker 11: Like history lesson.

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Speaker 6: You know that we were already here before Christopher Columbus.

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Speaker 11: We were all over the world.

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Speaker 6: Before Christopher Columbus. The legacy of Christopher Columbus, and you know,

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Speaker 6: it is important that you know that this book fills

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Speaker 6: in the blanks. We should know who we are, we

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Speaker 6: should know why, you know why we're here. And I

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Speaker 6: think I was going somewhere along that it was something

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Speaker 6: about the something about Plymouth Rock landed on us and

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Speaker 6: wanting to put it in perspective now as an older person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let me just say this a twelve way

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Speaker 1: from the top. Those folks. You know, some people there's

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Speaker 1: two hate groups. They eight us FDA, and those people

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Speaker 1: say they're not African. They're confused.

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Speaker 6: This is what It's unfortunate. Yeah, and I don't know

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Speaker 6: it's right. And it's almost like, you see, that's why

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Speaker 6: this book is great. Right when he says, you have

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Speaker 6: to learn to think for yourself. Right, you need to know,

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Speaker 6: like the a whole lot of things that's right in

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Speaker 6: that book. Now, I feel like I want to I

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Speaker 6: have a whole lot of uh uh stuff that I

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Speaker 6: want to say. But you know, who am I?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 6: Who am I as a woman? Who am I as

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Speaker 6: a man? Who am I as a uh?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 6: Whatever it is, however I identify myself in the world.

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Speaker 6: What's important is that we want to build a future

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Speaker 6: that's rooted in love, injustice and encourage right, and we

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Speaker 6: can only do that when we know who we are

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01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 6: and what is this information that we don't have? And

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Speaker 6: why are all of these things happening around the world,

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01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 6: and and and and you know, we want peace, we

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01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:58,839
Speaker 6: want human dignity. You know, we we turn on the internet,

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01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 6: we go scroll through our social media, and we can't

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01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 6: help but come across these horrific killings and things that

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01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 6: are happening around the world, and you have to ask yourself,

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Speaker 6: why you know, and how am I connected to that?

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Speaker 6: And what can I do to help?

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Speaker 14: Right?

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Speaker 6: How can I make sure that I'm building a future

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Speaker 6: that's rooted in love and justice and courage and not

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Speaker 6: thinking something unattainable.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha ten away from the top of our Sister fahimas

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Speaker 1: online seven ones you speak to you, grind Rise and

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01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:33,839
Speaker 1: sister Forhema.

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Speaker 17: Thank you for taking my call, mister Nelson and Slama Lakum,

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Speaker 17: Doctor il Yasa Shabez. This is Fahima Sex. I was

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Speaker 17: a media coordinator for the International Black Women's Cross Cultural Institute.

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01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 17: And I don't know if you heard, but last year

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Speaker 17: around this time, doctor andre Nicola McLaughlin made her transition

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Speaker 17: to the Room of the Ancestors and I interviewed her,

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01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 17: sister Joanna McLaughlin and Sophia Bendeli on her birthday. Marca Johnson,

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01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 17: the UH former governor of Lamone. She's going to be

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Speaker 17: having something in Costa Rica on doctor McLaughlin's behalf.

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Speaker 16: And I just really know.

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Speaker 17: Was your website the best way to get in touch

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Speaker 17: with you, to make you aware of the event.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I love doctor McLachlan. Wasn't she at MegaR Evers?

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Speaker 17: Yes, she was at MegaR Everson. You did come to

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01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 17: the retirement celebration UH they for her a few years

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Speaker 17: ago and also to many of the Shabbaz conversations at

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Speaker 17: the Shamberg Center.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's right, it's a it's a pleasure to meet you. Yes,

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Speaker 6: through the info at Eyasshabaz dot com.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 17: The last time I saw you, we were seated together

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Speaker 17: at the Shamberg Center.

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Speaker 15: UH.

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01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 17: Sonia Sanchez was in front of us, and I think

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01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 17: Camille y Aboro in the late Cheryl Byron were being honored.

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01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 17: And you did come to the anniversary at Columbia University.

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01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,560
Speaker 17: So I'm gonna make sure that Marta does get that

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01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 17: information to you, so perhaps you'll be available to attend

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01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 17: the event for her in Costa Rica.

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Speaker 11: Fantastic, Thank you, thank you so much.

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01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway away from the top they are. I gotta

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01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: ask you again about these readings. Whose idea was this

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01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:32,560
Speaker 1: to put this on?

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01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 6: You never listened. A bunch of individuals got together and

1451
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 6: this isn't the first event this has been going on.

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 6: We had an event on May nineteenth, UH at the

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01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:52,839
Speaker 6: Shabbaz Center, big huge event, award of Malcolm Betty Vanguard Awards.

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01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 6: Lauren Hill performs. There was a bunch of people there,

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01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 6: Ben Crump, Jerry Lorenzo, Kyrie Irving. You know. The list

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01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 6: goes on and on. We've been having events to celebrate

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01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 6: Malcolm since May nineteen, twenty twenty five, and they will

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01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 6: continue to go on through the end of twenty twenty six. Yes,

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01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 6: but you know, it's so important that all of the

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01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 6: adults bring young people. You know, we are the recipients

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01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 6: of a lot of great work that continues. You know,

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01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 6: people are continuing, continually trying to erase and it is

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01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 6: our responsibility. Just as my mother made sure when her

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01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 6: husband was assassinated, and then you see there are pictures

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01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 6: of my father teaching his girls when he was still alive,

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Speaker 6: but when her husband was assassinated, she made sure that

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Speaker 6: her girls learned at home. It is our responsibility to

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01:25:55,320 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 6: do that. And so when all of these beautiful, incredible

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Speaker 6: individuals who passed on legacies to us, these master teachers,

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01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 6: as Apeter Bailey shared, it is now our responsibilities to

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01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 6: as the recipients, to grab on to some young people

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01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 6: and do the same. Because one of the things that

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01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 6: I have experienced is that you know, we learn, we

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01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 6: know about the civil rights movement, but what immediately followed

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01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 6: after the civil rights movement was the war on drugs,

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01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 6: And so we need to make sure that we are

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01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 6: holding our young people close that we are communicating with them,

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01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 6: and that we're sharing our stories with them so that

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Speaker 6: they can do the same. Otherwise, fifty years from now,

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01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 6: other people are planning, they're strategizing, they're removing our history,

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01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 6: they are taking over, they are doing a whole lot

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01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 6: of things. And if we're not doing anything but enjoying ourselves,

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01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 6: then what happens to our to that history? You know?

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01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 6: And as I wrote and Betty before X, when Betty

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01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 6: saw her mother tell her that this information is not important,

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01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 6: right that, and she threw that information because Betty was

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01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 6: reading a newspaper where she saw a riot happening, she

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01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 6: threw it in the trash.

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Speaker 3: And she said, is that what we are do?

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Speaker 6: We just throw our information away in a trash, you know?

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01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 6: And you know, and so it's our responsibility to make

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01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 6: sure that we are sharing this information, grabbing the hands

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01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 6: of our young people and bringing them to programs that

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01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 6: share this kind of information. And you know, and at

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01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 6: some point those seeds that are planted in them will sprout.

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01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 6: Well it might not be immediate, but they will eventually sprout,

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01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 6: just like they did for Malcolm. Malcolm had parents that

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01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 6: were in that is, stilled specific values. He did not

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01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 6: go to jail and miraculously walk out as Malcolm X.

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Speaker 6: He went to jail running from his identity against the

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01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 6: backdrop of Jim Crow. And when he was in jail,

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01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 6: he was able to face all from which he was running,

1503
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 6: and he was provided with all of these books that

1504
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 6: he read. He was on the debate team, he debated

1505
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 6: about capital punishment. There's just so much you know about

1506
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 6: Malcolm that we don't know, and we don't know because

1507
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 6: it negates the importance of family and the importance of mentors.

1508
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 6: And so you know, it is important that we grab

1509
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 6: these young people and we bring them to the program ourselves.

1510
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: And I got to ask you this question. Do you

1511
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: think had he not gone to prison, he would still

1512
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: be the same Malcolm that we know of today.

1513
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 6: Well, I think if Jim Crow didn't exist, yes, he

1514
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 6: would be the same compassionate, organizer, leader, master, teacher, all

1515
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 6: of those things because of the values that were instilled

1516
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 6: in him by his parents. You know, it is we

1517
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 6: forget what happened during slavery, We forget the trauma who

1518
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 6: comes up with these kinds of things. We forget the trauma.

1519
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 6: We forget what happened after that with Jim Crow, what

1520
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 6: about Tulsa, What about Lake Lamier. You know, there's so

1521
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 6: many horrible things that have happened. Look at the young

1522
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 6: babies who are taken. Look at the people who are

1523
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 6: now being taken, you know, and shipped off to the

1524
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 6: Latin world, you know, who are born here. I mean,

1525
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:35,759
Speaker 6: there's so much horror, you know that continues to happen.

1526
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 6: And it's not until the majority of people around the

1527
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,799
Speaker 6: world who were good people come together and then figure

1528
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 6: out how are we going to move forward? And so

1529
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 6: you know, it is the reason I say that we

1530
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 6: want to build a future that's rooted in love, that's

1531
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 6: rooted in courage, justice and the commitment to peace and

1532
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 6: human dignity for everybody. And we have to have compacts

1533
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 6: for Black people. We need compassion for latinas, we need

1534
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 6: compassion for Palestinians. We need compassion for the people and

1535
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 6: congo for I mean, all around the world, the same

1536
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 6: thing is happening by the same kind of people. It's

1537
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 6: happening by bad people to good people. So let the

1538
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 6: good people come together and not focus on our complexions. Right,

1539
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 6: that's an opportunity for us to learn and build and

1540
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 6: be better human beings.

1541
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: Listen, We've got to check the traffic. I don't know

1542
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: how much time you have, you can, I'll let you

1543
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 1: finish up.

1544
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 6: I don't have any more time, sir, okay, all right.

1545
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 6: So honored and grateful that you took the time out

1546
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 6: to have me on your show. I really appreciate it

1547
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 6: and I look forward to being a community with everyone.

1548
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 6: So thank you so much, and have a beautiful day.

1549
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: We thank you, and I'll give out the information about

1550
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 1: the event taking place tomorrow when we get back from

1551
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 1: the traffic. Thank you again.

1552
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 5: Thank you too.

1553
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 1: Away from the top of hoist, I make sure we

1554
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: got to check the traffic and weather at different cities.

1555
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: We come back. Also to A is going to join us.

1556
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: You want to speak to doctor A, reach out to

1557
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

1558
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take the calls. And Grand Rising family,

1559
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: thanks you for making a serial choice. This Wednesday morning,

1560
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: coming up, our guest will be doctor A. She's a

1561
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: medical doctor, conventional medical doctor, also holistic doctor, a naturopathic doctor,

1562
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: and she's going to issue her report on Black women's

1563
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: health for twenty twenty five. And if you have any

1564
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 1: health challenges. You need to speak with doctor A again.

1565
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: Our number is eight hundred four or five zero seventy

1566
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: eight seventy six. And folks, don't be bachelor when it

1567
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 1: comes to your health. Please don't be bachelor and take

1568
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: advantage of her expertise before we go to her there,

1569
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: let me just finish up with a doctor. Elisha Shabbaz,

1570
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: Malcolm's daughter, was just on momentarily because they're having an

1571
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: event tomorrow in New York at the Symphony Space. Is

1572
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: they're going to celebrate Malcolm's as tentenary actually would be

1573
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: the one hundredth anniversary of his death, and they're doing

1574
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 1: with the book of his birth. I'm sorry, and they're

1575
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: doing and they're writing a book, the Autobiography of Malcolm X.

1576
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:58,600
Speaker 1: The new edition is coming out and this is a

1577
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: hardcover edition. You can have readings by actor Joe Morton,

1578
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,799
Speaker 1: discussions with Politic Prize winning writers and Nicole Hannah Jones

1579
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: James La James, author organizer. Of course, it's going to

1580
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: be there as well. Alisa Shabbaz, Malcolm's third daughter, she's

1581
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 1: going to be part of it, and Jelani Cobby is

1582
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: going to be one of theirs as well, so there's

1583
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of folks gonna be and they're gonna

1584
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: be reading parts of Malcolm X's autobiography, and they know

1585
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,560
Speaker 1: they've got to talk about Alex Haley, who wrote the

1586
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 1: original book. And so this is a new edition that's

1587
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 1: coming out as part of the year long celebration of

1588
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,600
Speaker 1: Malcolm's birth that's going to start, well, let's say they

1589
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: started right now. It's going to go through twenty twenty six. Though,

1590
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: if you've listened through while you've known, you've heard Malcolm's

1591
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,560
Speaker 1: cousin speak about that as well. So we got for

1592
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 1: more information on that. So just those of you in

1593
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: the New York City area, because there's still a chance

1594
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: to get tickets to because this is gonna be a

1595
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: fantastic event, and you could go to the Symphony Space

1596
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: and you find out more information about that event that's

1597
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: taking place. One of the good things I like what

1598
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: she said, though people, our people are confused. They don't

1599
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: know who we are. Know thyself, and that's part of

1600
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: the problem. This is why ostro Quasi tells us all

1601
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 1: the time, know thyself. A lot of these folks they

1602
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: don't know who they are, so they'll tell you anything

1603
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: and you'll believe them and you don't understand what's going on.

1604
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 1: So I thank you, thank you doctor Elisha Shabaz for

1605
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 1: join us this morning. Anyway, let's turn our attention now

1606
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 1: to doctor A grind Rising, Doctor A welcome back to

1607
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 1: the program.

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01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 11: Thank you, Carl, and I'm so glad to be together

1609
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 11: with this Carl Nelson National family. The nationwide audience is

1610
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 11: so wide awake and so conscientious, Carl, that we've got

1611
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 11: to do inventory now at years in that's right.

1612
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 1: Before we do the inventory, though, what's the report card

1613
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 1: you have for Black women with health for this year?

1614
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 11: Well, we are finishing off the year of twenty twenty five.

1615
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:51,639
Speaker 11: I'm very proud that my solro are from Texas, Jasmine

1616
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,600
Speaker 11: Crockett is now running for Senate. We have made a

1617
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 11: few accomplishments, Carl, but when it comes to the health

1618
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 11: of the black woman, we have to say the l

1619
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 11: We get an F at the end of twenty twenty five.

1620
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 11: And it's not because we are losers. It's because the

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01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 11: United States of America that brought us here for the

1622
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 11: most part in shackles, that brought us here as the

1623
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 11: backbone of America, that brought us here as the mule

1624
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 11: of this country, not just to breastfeed white men and

1625
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 11: all other babies, not just to pick the cotton, not

1626
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 11: just to be raped and mutilated. So we have a

1627
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 11: full spectrum of color from the motherland. But we also

1628
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 11: have failed to basically be acknowledged by this country. The

1629
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 11: structural racism in America has resulted, Carl, in death statistics

1630
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 11: for pregnant Black.

1631
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 16: Women that are no different than the nineteen thirties.

1632
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 11: That that is one hundred years.

1633
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 16: Ago, damn near.

1634
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 11: So the point is we do get an f and

1635
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 11: until we as black women take our own accountability and

1636
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 11: become responsible for our our own excellence and healthcare, Caral,

1637
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 11: we're going to continue to be failed by this country.

1638
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 11: This country was not built for us. They labeled us

1639
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 11: three fifths of a human being. That's not an accident, Carl,

1640
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 11: They put that into law. So the way black women

1641
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 11: are treated in twenty twenty five, we haven't.

1642
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 16: Come that far from that three fifths of the human being.

1643
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 16: We are failing. The country is failing us.

1644
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 1: Having said that, what can we do doctor a accountability, Carl.

1645
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 11: The beauty of the error that we live in right now,

1646
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 11: we are not the slaves on the plantation who would

1647
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 11: be whooped, if not killed, for being literate. There is

1648
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 11: no excuse for Black America not to be literate. It

1649
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 11: is no longer the law that we cannot gather and

1650
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 11: that we cannot read.

1651
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 16: We should be a very, very actively.

1652
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 11: Reading group of people people in this country that are

1653
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 11: African American, people in this country that are of color.

1654
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 11: We need to turn the TV off, Carl. Okay, all

1655
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 11: this Netflix and Paramount and the foolishness and the indoctrination.

1656
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 11: Can we stop it? Do we recognize what happened when

1657
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 11: the television was created and there were.

1658
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 16: No black images whatsoever.

1659
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 11: It was a new means to mentally and emotionally, psychologically demoralize.

1660
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 16: African people, and we bought into it.

1661
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 11: We are the most TV watching population, We are the

1662
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 11: most social media engaged population. Our ethnicity has got to

1663
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 11: dis engage from the media. Disconnect from the media except

1664
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 11: the Carl Nelson Show.

1665
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 16: Okay, we want to stay engaged.

1666
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 11: In revolutionary thinking, thinking that allows us to express authenticity.

1667
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 11: But when it comes to the indoctrination on the boob tube,

1668
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 11: we've got to turn it off and read a few

1669
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 11: more books. Carl we need to know our history, Carl.

1670
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 11: We have a whole generation of children that don't even

1671
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 11: know about September eleventh.

1672
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, that's and that's sad that you know, we

1673
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: have to do better. And one of the things too,

1674
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned those those some of those movies and events

1675
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: that are on TV. We what we do internalize them

1676
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: and mimic them. We seem to have a protective activity,

1677
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: if you will, to act out what we see on TV.

1678
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 1: How do we break that? Though? Is this is something

1679
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: mental and emotional.

1680
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 11: Issues that some of us have, Well, that's such a

1681
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 11: poignant question, Carl. The bottom line is this, we do

1682
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 11: have to believe science. So no more so than we

1683
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,759
Speaker 11: should be walking around talking about the world is flat

1684
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,640
Speaker 11: and that sounds ignorant.

1685
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 16: When we know it's round. We should not be walking

1686
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 16: around aware that we were enslaved people. And we're in

1687
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 16: a country that wants us to.

1688
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 6: Remember the Holocaust, Remember the Alamo, remember.

1689
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 11: Everything except slavery.

1690
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 16: Okay.

1691
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 11: Donald Trump wants to delete REAC and anything that makes

1692
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 11: a white man feel bad about himself or ashamed of himself,

1693
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 11: or feel some sense of guilt. He wants to burn

1694
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 11: those books, ban those books, eliminate that education. He wants

1695
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 11: to eliminate the fact that we have Martin Luther King

1696
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 11: Day and make Trump Day. He wants to eliminate the

1697
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 11: Golf of Mexico and call it the Golf of America.

1698
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 11: He wants to rewrite Google Maps. If our children are

1699
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 11: not educated, we are really in deep, deep trouble.

1700
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 1: Carl got you ten a half of the top of

1701
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 1: the are and family. Let me just say that you've

1702
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 1: got a health concern and health challenge. This is lady.

1703
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 1: You need to pose those questions to please, please take

1704
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: advantage of her expertise. Don't sit there and hope that

1705
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: somebody has a similar problem. They're going to call in.

1706
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: You've got to be proactive and reach out to us.

1707
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 1: At eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

1708
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 1: seventy six, Sondra Romas is join us from Washington, DC.

1709
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: Has a question for you. She's online too, Grand Rising, Sondra.

1710
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 9: Grand Rising, call and Grand Rising doctor a as usual.

1711
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 9: You have all a whole lot to say that. It

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Speaker 9: is so so truthful. I want to welcome you to WOL.

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01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:22,679
Speaker 9: To call Nelson University. WOL means we offer love. Let's

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Speaker 9: keep love alive three sixty five. God is love. Love

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01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 9: comes from God above, and love makes you feel so good.

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01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 9: And Doctor A, I'm telling you as far as me

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01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 9: feel how i'm feeling. You are a doctor. I love

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01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 9: you and your mother, and I'm telling you I was

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01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 9: looking forward to listening to doctor A because I knew

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01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 9: that a doctor couldn't give me appeal to make me

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01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 9: feel this thrilled I'm getting from you, and I looked

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01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:06,600
Speaker 9: forward to listening to you. So I just want to

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01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 9: let you know that I had to say hello to

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01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 9: you and of course your mother, Bernita Thompson. I'm saying

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01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 9: good morning, but I'm gonna tell you I don't have

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01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 9: to come on here and tell anybody about how I'm

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01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 9: feeling because I'm loving, I'm listening, and I'm learning Doctor A.

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01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 9: I will be getting in touch with you concerning the patches,

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01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 9: but I love you, and I'm gonna let someone else speak.

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01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 9: Have a blessed day and be saved.

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01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 11: Sandra, thank you for being a consistent, Doctor A. And

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01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 11: Carl Nelson fan, you are so loyal, you are so proactive.

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01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 11: I love your enthusiasm. And let me just say to

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01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:58,879
Speaker 11: the nationwide audience some things that you spoke are quite potent.

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Speaker 11: Number One one, we're praying people as African people. We

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01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 11: knew about prayer before slavery was ever created. We know

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01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 11: about prayer before dehumanization was ever actualized. We know about

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01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 11: prayer before global colonization ever took place. We have an

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01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 11: abnormal access to the creator, we really do. We have

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01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 11: a supernatural access to the creator. And this is what

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01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 11: Sondras Robinson called to talk about. She talks about the

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01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,559
Speaker 11: word love. Well, let me tell you something, African people.

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01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 11: There are vibratory tones, regardless of.

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01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 16: Language, that come across. Even a plant and an animal.

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01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 11: Can receive the energy and the vibrations of hatred, demoralization,

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01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 11: degradation versus upliftment, empowerment, and love. There are actual movies.

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01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 16: There's what the bleep do we know?

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01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 11: An excellent DVD that talks about how you can actually

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01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 11: change the vibratory innergy of water. You can pour a

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01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 11: glass of water and watch the atoms change.

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01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 16: When you speak hatred versus when you speak love.

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01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 11: You can have a plant in your house caral and

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01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 11: nurture that plant verbally verbally, the same as we do

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01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:22,879
Speaker 11: with Black children. Nurture the plant and watch it prosper

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01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 11: versus speak hate and venom to the plant and watch

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01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 11: it deteriorate. The same is true, Caral for the cells

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01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 11: of our body. So many of us are wrapped up

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01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 11: in self hatred. Many of us are wrapped up in

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01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 11: low self esteem. We are the opposite of what Sondra

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01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 11: Robinson just spoke, empowering ourselves with love. And guess what

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01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:47,719
Speaker 11: that helps to manifest? Disease. So, yes, a woke consciousness, okay,

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01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 11: which Trump hates, But it's a fact of not being

1763
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 11: dumbed down, not being manipulated, not being controlled, not being demoralized,

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01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 11: and not being programmed by his media largely controlled.

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01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 16: Now his cronies, all of it.

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Speaker 11: We see conglomerates of media, Carl being monopolized. It's like

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01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,680
Speaker 11: the Monopoly game has come to life at the end

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01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 11: of twenty twenty five. And if we don't wake up,

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01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 11: start listening to Carl Nelson and other specified engaged programming,

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01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 11: and then disconnect and begin to read. You know, back

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01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 11: when I was born, Carl, my mother used to take me,

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01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 11: even before I could go to daycare, to these think tanks.

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01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 11: Black power think tanks were all over the country. We've

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01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 11: stopped that over a generation ago. We've got three generations

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01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 11: now that did not benefit from think tank curl. So

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01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 11: guess what we have dumbed down people, dumbed down people.

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01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 11: It's not biological, it's conditioning. It's not nature, it's nurture.

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01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,759
Speaker 11: We're not nurturing the African spirit.

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01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 1: All right, They've got a step aside, but we do it.

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01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: I got a tweet question for you, and I'll let

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01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 1: you think about this tweet while we take a break.

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01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 1: A tweeter, says a grand rising doctor A. Neuropathy is

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01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: a disease that causes the symptoms of pain and numbness

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01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: in body extremities, especially the legs and feet. What natural

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01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 1: remedies can you offer as beneficial to the healing of neuropathy?

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Speaker 1: And I'll let you respond that when we get back. Family,

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01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 1: you too can join this conversation. You got a health

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01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: question or a health concerner, you know somebody who does?

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01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 1: Please please take advantage of doctor A's expertise. You don't

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01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 1: have to use your real name with your real city.

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01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 1: We don't want to. You know some folks that want

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01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 1: people know the business. I get it, but please take

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01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: advantage for it, because this is all you got your health,

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01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 1: Nobody else will do it for you, So reach out

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01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,719
Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy

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01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: eight seventy six and will take your phone calls next

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01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with us on

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01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning, this humpday. We're halfway through the work

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Speaker 1: week with our guests, Doctor A. Let me say it again.

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Speaker 1: If you've got a health challenge or I know somebody

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01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: who does, please give us a call at eight hundred

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01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. Been to

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01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 1: the doctor recently, you know what I'm talking about. You

1804
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: get ten to fifteen minutes max and you're out next

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01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 1: with Doctor A. And you've got questions still, maybe you're

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01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: too embarrassed to ask. You don't have to use your

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01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: real name or your real city. But take advantage because

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01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: you know what's coming up, the Obamacare. They're trying to

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01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 1: get rid of that, so it's going to cost you

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01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 1: more at the end of the year. It started next year,

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01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 1: so this is you keep that in the back of

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01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 1: your mind if you have any health concerns, and you know,

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01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 1: you're sort of apprehensive of speaking with the guys in

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01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 1: the white coat and what doctor A can give you

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01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 1: a holistic response as well as a traditional medical response.

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01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 1: But anyway, let me go back to the tweet question

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01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 1: for you. Doctor A. Tweeter says neuropathy is a disease

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01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: that causes the symptoms of pain and numbness in the

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01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: body extremities, especially the legs and feet, And the person asks,

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01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 1: what natural remedies can you offer as beneficial to the

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01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: healing of neuropathy.

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Speaker 11: Okay, Carl, I'm going to get right to the point.

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01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 11: Although I know neuropathy affects millions of our people across

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01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 11: this country. Again, as the caller said, it can result

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01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 11: from a number of conditions from diabetes to multiple sclerosis.

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01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 11: There are multiple factors that can cause the neuropathy. But

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01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:16,480
Speaker 11: once you've been diagnosed with a neuropathy, there's some holistic

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01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,600
Speaker 11: things that you can do. Wholeisted things are going to

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01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 11: focus on natural approaches. Supplement such as alpha lipoic acid

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01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 11: that's an antioxidant that improves nerve signaling. The B vitamins

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01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:36,719
Speaker 11: are also essential for nerve health, so deficiencies are linked

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01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:41,640
Speaker 11: to neuropathy. Fish oil. I've talked many times on your

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01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 11: show about Omega three fatty acids. They reduce inflammation, so

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01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 11: you can put in your diet and you can take

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01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 11: as a supplement omega three fatty acids, Magnesium and calcium

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01:46:54,560 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 11: have roles in nerve function. Also, acetyl al carnatine, so

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01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 11: a fetyle l carnatine is a supplement that can reduce

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Speaker 11: the amount of nerve pain that you're feeling from the neuropathy.

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01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 11: Various people have neuropathy, Carl, in different places in the body,

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Speaker 11: and often once you're diagnosed with neuropathy, it's a progressive

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01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 11: lifetime diagnosis. So in terms of your lifestyle, mind body therapy,

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01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 11: you want to alter your diet to a really anti

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01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 11: inflammatory diet. This rich in omega three fatty acids. You

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01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 11: want to reduce your sugar and process food. You want

1845
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 11: to hydrate. I've off told your audience you need to

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01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 11: be drinking half your body weight in water. Acupuncture is useful,

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01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 11: warm baths, yoga, high chi and then Carl I spoke

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01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 11: the last time I was on air about a wearable

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01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 11: light technology, So if you're interested in that as remedy

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01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:59,839
Speaker 11: for neuropathy, I know multiple people who have used patches

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01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 11: to alleviate neuropathy. Sondra Robinson mentioned that off air, she's

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01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 11: going to contact me about that. If you're interested in

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01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 11: wearable light technology to reduce the symptom of neuropathy holistically

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01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:19,600
Speaker 11: without side effect, lifewave dot com backslash doctor Emerson, you

1855
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 11: can go to that website and learn more about Activate

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01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:29,560
Speaker 11: and Elevate with X thirty nine. That's wearable light technology,

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01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 11: no medication, no digestive effect. It literally activates infrared technology

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01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 11: to utilize your own stem cells to reduce pain throughout

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01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 11: your body. And I have multiple testimonies of people who've

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01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:49,680
Speaker 11: had significant relief, So Carl, there are multiple things that

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01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 11: people can do outside of Western medicine. Is not to

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01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 11: say don't go to your physician. See one of the

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01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 11: things we have is a benefit thus far in this

1864
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 11: country public education and public health. So don't deny yourself

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01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 11: that you have access. People in third world countries don't.

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01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 11: But when you go to a healthcare provider and you

1867
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 11: get the proper testing and whatever prescribed diagnoses, whatever prescriptions,

1868
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 11: then you can add to that your own holistic lifestyle

1869
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 11: and non side effect technologies that help your body to

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01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:30,799
Speaker 11: heal itself. We have a healing power with our own body,

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01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 11: and we need to learn to activate that.

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Speaker 3: Carl all right.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five to top, Mick is calling from New Jersey

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01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,640
Speaker 1: Issues Online one grand Rise and Mickey, you're own with

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Speaker 1: doctor A.

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Speaker 6: Good morning.

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01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 7: Can you hear me?

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01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 11: Yes, Mickey, we got you.

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01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 18: Oh, it's a pleasure to have you.

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01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 10: Oh.

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01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 18: I love your show, Carl is awesome. I'm from New Jersey.

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01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 18: I have a lot of questions. I have one question

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01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 18: about vitamin B. But I want to say I love

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Speaker 18: doctor A because she brings she brings life into assistance

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01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 18: and literally because she she U c U to the

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Speaker 18: to delivered babies too. But but on top of that,

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Speaker 18: ID and I do want to get those patches doctor

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01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 18: that's a A. My question is about vitamin D. I'm

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01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:28,639
Speaker 18: always indoor and I worked the graveyard shift.

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01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 11: What do you.

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01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 18: Recommend for vitamin D because besides going into the sun.

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Speaker 11: Excellent question, Mackie, that's a phenomenal question. And the interesting

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01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 11: thing about you bringing that up is that November is

1895
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 11: actually Vitamin D awareness month, so it is very important

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01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 11: that our nationwide audience understands vitamin D. Make sure you

1897
01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 11: put your call on mute so that you can you

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01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:03,799
Speaker 11: can and hear me well on the air. But basically,

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01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 11: twentieth century children in Europe and northern United States developed

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01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 11: rickets because of lack of sun exposure. So the fact

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01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 11: that we sit on our computer mickey twenty four to seven,

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01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:19,599
Speaker 11: we're working from home, we are never going outside. We're

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01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 11: in pajamas twenty four hours a day. Very unhealthy. Melanated

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01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 11: people take longer to absorb vitamin D from the sun,

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01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 11: so our exposure has to be over a longer amount

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01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 11: of time to get the same absorption as our white counterparts.

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01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 11: There are vitamin D supplements and everyone should be getting

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01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 11: their vitamin D level checked by their healthcare provider at

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01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 11: this point. There are known connections with vitamin D deficiency

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01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 11: and a lot of different medical conditions, from depression to

1911
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 11: anxiety to physical conditions. As I said, in the twentieth century,

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01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:00,679
Speaker 11: we had rickets. Now you can experience fatigue, bone pain,

1913
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 11: muscle weakness, mood changes, infections, wound healing problems, severe causes

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01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 11: of not just rickets, but osteomylaysia, which is weak bones

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01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 11: that are in the adult population. So we've got to

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01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 11: become very serious about understanding our vitamin D level and

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01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:27,720
Speaker 11: getting ourself to sufficiency. As much as we consume in

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01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 11: terms of food and caloric intake. It really is deplorable

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01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 11: that we are still experiencing a level of deficiency of

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01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:37,960
Speaker 11: basic vitamins.

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01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 10: But we are.

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Speaker 11: It's not just your sunlight exposure. As you said, Mickey,

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Speaker 11: you can take supplements of vitamin D three. You can

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Speaker 11: also in your diet make it rich in fatty fish,

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Speaker 11: fourtified milk, cereals, orange juice, sesame seeds are an excellent

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Speaker 11: source of vitamin D. So yes, let's google and find out.

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Speaker 11: Let's become hyper aware of vitamin D and the role

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Speaker 11: it has. Let's not just depend on the sun.

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Speaker 16: We cannot do that.

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Speaker 11: We're in the winter, this is the season of darkness

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Speaker 11: and the longest night. We've got to be proactive, and

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Speaker 11: it starts with knowing your level. Get your vitamin D

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Speaker 11: level tested, rich enrich your diet with vitamin D rich foods.

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Speaker 16: Know what vitamin D rich.

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Speaker 11: Foods are so that you are not experiencing the chronic

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Speaker 11: conditions that come about from the deficiency. Thank you for calling, Mickey,

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Speaker 11: thank you for your love and your support.

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Speaker 1: All right, thirty minutes out of the top that famine.

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Speaker 1: I'll say it again, if you know someone who's got

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Speaker 1: a health challenge, or you have a health challenge, or

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Speaker 1: just some questions or just a second opinion. Lady, you

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Speaker 1: need to talk to you because a lot of times

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Speaker 1: you don't get to talk to doctors, and you don't

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Speaker 1: get to talk to doctors who are both traditional medical

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Speaker 1: doctors and also holistic Nagel panic doctors, because doctor A

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Speaker 1: can give you both sides, and because some people, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's say, this is the pharmacy people give you if

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Speaker 1: you take a medicine or a tablet or pill or whatever,

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Speaker 1: those side effects. Am I correcting saying that doctor today?

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Speaker 11: You're one thousand percent correct, Carl. And the problem with

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Speaker 11: the side effects, Carl, we are so indoctrinated that many

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Speaker 11: of us we're experiencing side effects from various prescriptions, and

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Speaker 11: we are not even reporting these things to our healthcare providers.

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Speaker 11: We are not even alerted that this is a warning,

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Speaker 11: this is a red flag that the chemistry of this

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Speaker 11: pharmacological product may not be jibing with our body. That's

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Speaker 11: a real thing. Side effects are real, and they can

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Speaker 11: wind you up in the hospital, if not kill you.

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Speaker 11: You know, you could be treating something with your vision

1960
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Speaker 11: and Now you end up with you know, dizziness, you

1961
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Speaker 11: end up with migrain headaches, you end up with digestive issues,

1962
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Speaker 11: you end up with circulatory issues. There are things that

1963
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Speaker 11: make your penis it's direct, but can make you blind.

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Speaker 11: Everything that is a prescription from western medicine comes with

1965
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Speaker 11: a side effect. So what we're talking to you about

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Speaker 11: today is fortifying yourself with something. The worst case scenario

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Speaker 11: is it does nothing. There's not going to be a

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Speaker 11: whole laundry list of horrible side effects when you're fortifying

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Speaker 11: with natural things that God put on the earth.

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Speaker 1: All right, I just people just tweeting me. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at tweets. But let's go to Maxine and calling from

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Speaker 1: Michelottesville in Virgin Issues online too, Grand Rising, Maxine, you're

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Speaker 1: on with doctor A.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, Good morning, doctor A. Thank you so much

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Speaker 8: for taking my call. I'm interested in a natural way

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Speaker 8: to deal with gird as the grief.

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Speaker 11: Of Okay, well, that's wonderful.

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Speaker 16: Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 11: How long have you been suffering with this?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 8: Well over two years now. I did not I rejected

1982
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Speaker 8: the medicines that the doctor, you know, those proton pump inhibitors.

1983
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Speaker 8: I would get a headache from that. So I rejected that,

1984
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Speaker 8: and I've started on my path using golden seal, using

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Speaker 8: as much natural herbs as I can.

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Speaker 11: But let me let me ask you two things, Maxine.

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Speaker 11: Number one, are you a smoker? Number two? What is

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Speaker 11: your age?

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Speaker 8: Number one? I am not a smoker. Number two, I'm

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Speaker 8: seventy seven.

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Speaker 11: Okay, wonderful. So here are my suggestions. Firstly, for the

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Speaker 11: nationwide audience. Maxine is a very proactive, knowledgeable woman. Let

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Speaker 11: me catch the national audience up. Gastro esophagil reflux disease.

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Speaker 11: That was the cause of death for my maternal grandfather.

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Speaker 11: It is very personal to me. Esophageal reflux disease is heartburn, okay.

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Speaker 11: It's a chronic digestive condition where the stomach acid is

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Speaker 11: being regurgitated back into your throat or esophagus. Therefore, your

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01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 11: symptoms or heartburn regurgitation, chest pain. Many people even go

1999
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Speaker 11: to the er thinking they're having a heart attack.

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Speaker 16: That's how painful it can be.

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Speaker 11: You can have difficulties swallowing. You often have a weak

2002
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 11: lower esophageal sphincter. So Maxine, the first thing is to

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Speaker 11: understand causality, which is why I ask your age and

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01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 11: whether or not you smoke, because what is the cause

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Speaker 11: of the sphincter? Okay, there is basically a drainage problem.

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01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 11: The sphincter is a muscle that squeezes like our anus squeezes.

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Speaker 11: And we don't just defecate without voluntary release. Right, we

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01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 11: choose to go to the bathroom, We choose to make

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01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 11: a number two. We may be flatulent until we make

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Speaker 11: that choice, but we don't just release without voluntary command.

2011
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 11: So the same should be true at the esophagus. When

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Speaker 11: you swallow something and it goes in your stomach, why

2013
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Speaker 11: is it going backwards back into your throat?

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Speaker 16: Okay, so ginger ginger.

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Speaker 11: Is something we use as obgu I NS Mickey mentioned,

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Speaker 11: I've delivered thousands of babies the grace of God. I

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Speaker 11: touched them before their mommy even touches them. And so

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Speaker 11: pregnant women suffer what heartburn? Pregnant women have physiologic changes

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Speaker 11: that worse than heartburn tenfold. Even if they never had

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Speaker 11: it in life, they're likely to have it in pregnancy.

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Speaker 11: Aging worsens heartburn, smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol, spicy food, process food,

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Speaker 11: all these things make heartburn worse. Yes, they're over the

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01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:58,560
Speaker 11: counter things like thumbs rolaids, but ginger is what we

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Speaker 11: have holistically, ginger candy, ginger tea ginger in every form

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Speaker 11: imaginable to really reduce the symptom of regurgitating acid from

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Speaker 11: your stomach back into your throat. Your lifestyle, you want

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Speaker 11: to elevate the head of your bed again, eliminate the

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Speaker 11: trigger foods and the trigger drinks. Stop smoking for those

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Speaker 11: who are smokers. Your clothing can matter, so you want

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Speaker 11: to wear loose fitting clothing, especially around the abdomen.

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Speaker 16: There are times where.

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Speaker 11: Medications can be useful and Matt seeing you mentioned five effects.

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Speaker 11: Like Carl and I talked about, you want to ask

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Speaker 11: your health care provider are their alternatives that are prescription alternatives,

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Speaker 11: because I'm not aware of the severity of your condition.

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Speaker 11: My grandfather took every medication known to man and then

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Speaker 11: actually had to have surgery to correct the reflux of

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Speaker 11: acid into his throat. He elevated the head of his bed,

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Speaker 11: almost had to sleep standing up. It was so painful.

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Speaker 11: He went into that surgery and we never saw him

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Speaker 11: again because he was in his seventies and he had

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Speaker 11: a surgical complication postoperatively, so as we age, our likelihood

2043
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Speaker 11: of complication from elective surgery. Again, that's how Kanye West

2044
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Speaker 11: lost his mother.

2045
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Speaker 16: Trying to get bigger titties, smaller titties. Whatever.

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Speaker 11: It was cosmetic elective surgery. It was not a cataract

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02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:32,240
Speaker 11: surgery or something that was medically needed, as she wanted

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Speaker 11: to become more attractive, and instead she met the creator.

2049
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Speaker 11: When we age, we've got to think even more mindfully

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Speaker 11: about whether or not we are a candidate for surgery.

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Speaker 11: So Maxine, my recommendations. Definitely change your lifestyle. Definitely change

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Speaker 11: your diet. Obesity is also associated with an increase in

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02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 11: heartburn for physiological reasons. Is basic physics, okay, So weight loss,

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Speaker 11: dietary management, walking, regularly drinking alkaline water, changing all the

2055
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Speaker 11: process foods out of your diet to become more holistic.

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Speaker 11: These are the things that can naturally eliminate the symptom

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Speaker 11: of GIRD from your life. Thank you for calling Maccine.

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Speaker 8: But doctor A.

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Speaker 11: Yes, Maxine, Wow, she was going to ask something else,

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Speaker 11: I thought.

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Speaker 1: I think she hung up. But we've got to step

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Speaker 1: beside any antic shortbreak. So when we come back, we've

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Speaker 1: got some more folks want to talk to you family,

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Speaker 1: you want to reach out to. Our guest is doctor Ah.

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Speaker 1: She's a natural pathic doctor. She's also a traditional medical doctor,

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Speaker 1: so you have a choice. Very few doctors are like

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Speaker 1: this and either one or the other, especially the medical doctors.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to tell her that you can use

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Speaker 1: something natural to relieve you whatever concern you have. But

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Speaker 1: doctor A will do it. All you have to do

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Speaker 1: is call her up at eight hundred four or five

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Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: Next and Grand Rising family in thanks you for staying

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Speaker 1: with us on this Wednesday morning. This is a hum day.

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Speaker 1: We're halfway through the work week with our guest, Doctor A.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, she's a holistic doctor. She's also a

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Speaker 1: traditional medical doctor as well, so you get both sides

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Speaker 1: on health. Is the Please take care of your health.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm going to say. You got to be

2080
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:20,360
Speaker 1: proactive when it comes to your health because nobody else will.

2081
02:02:20,720 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's yours. You've got to protect it, especially

2082
02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:25,280
Speaker 1: getting older these days. Before we go back to the Lemons,

2083
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Speaker 1: remind you're coming up tomorrow. We're gonna hear from civil

2084
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Speaker 1: rights active is a Willie Macassa Rich. You know, he

2085
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:34,960
Speaker 1: marched with doctor King Stogey call Michael Kwame Terray. Also

2086
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Speaker 1: Marion Barry was a pot of snake, so all those folks.

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Speaker 1: So he's going to be here tomorrow along with the

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Speaker 1: economist doctor Julian Malveaux. So if you're in the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: are make sure you've radio is lottin tight on ten

2090
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Speaker 1: ten WLBO for the Washington d C Metropolitan Here the DMV.

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Speaker 1: We're on fourteenth fifty w l All right, Roberts calling

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Speaker 1: is from Baltimore. Doctor A is online one, Grand Rising, Robert.

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Speaker 1: Your question for doctor A is Robert down line one, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move to line too. Then I three,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Hello, Yes who is this? Yes? Who is this?

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Speaker 12: Robert?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Robert, you your question for doctor A?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I like to know.

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Speaker 12: Uh I heard some stuff over over on online, but

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Speaker 12: uh I like to know it is oldmeal.

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Speaker 14: Good for you.

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Speaker 12: I hate it every morning for repers.

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Speaker 11: Well, firstly, let me say grand Rise into you, Robert,

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Speaker 11: thank you for calling. Where are you calling from? Well,

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Speaker 11: tou A City, Okay, wonderful that I'm from the DMV,

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Speaker 11: So I love that you're representing from that area. Uh

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Speaker 11: number one, what is your age, Robert, I'm sixty seven, Okay, wonderful.

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Speaker 11: Oatmeal is a form of an excellent source of fiber.

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02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 11: Fiber is something that can make our digestive system work

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Speaker 11: a thousand times better. So as opposed to starting your

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Speaker 11: morning with something sugary and starting your morning with processed food,

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Speaker 11: oatmeal is wonderful. Now when you are preparing actual oats,

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Speaker 11: real oats as opposed to some process down form of oatmeal,

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Speaker 11: that's even better, Roberts. So if you actually take the

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Speaker 11: Quaker oats or some of the brand oats and you

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02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:37,680
Speaker 11: cook that in water, prepare it with whatever natural supplements

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Speaker 11: that you want. Honey is wonderful, Agave is wonderful, Cinnamon

2118
02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:44,120
Speaker 11: is wonderful.

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Speaker 16: All of these things.

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Speaker 11: Help to fortify that breakfast but also help to make

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Speaker 11: it palatable, and those things meanwhile augment the healing process

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02:04:56,120 --> 02:05:00,360
Speaker 11: of your body. Cinnamon has multiple healing powers. God is

2123
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 11: a wonderful natural sweetener as opposed to white sugar.

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Speaker 4: So yes.

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Speaker 11: For multiple things that we could choose for breakfast, oatmeal

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Speaker 11: is one of the better ones, Doctor A.

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Speaker 12: The oatmeal that I eat is a quicker quicker brand,

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Speaker 12: and it has a Walnutch dates and raisins in it.

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Speaker 12: And I'm a diabetic, so I don't put it's no sugar.

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Speaker 12: I don't have no sugar to it. I think the

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Speaker 12: raisins are the natural sweetener that I I mean, I

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Speaker 12: like the I like the brand that I get.

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Speaker 3: So is that okay.

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Speaker 11: Walnuts are also studied to be very very beneficial to

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Speaker 11: the brain. So as you age, you know you have

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02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:50,720
Speaker 11: now AARP status. Robert, It's very important that you continue

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02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:53,920
Speaker 11: to fortify your body with walnuts. I like the things

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02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:57,400
Speaker 11: that you're putting in this oatmeal to prepare yourself a

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02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 11: breakfast that's wholesome and that's fortified. Now what's important is

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02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:06,240
Speaker 11: you said you're diabetic. Unfortunately, Quaker does make forms of

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02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:09,960
Speaker 11: oatmeal that have a very high sugar content and they

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02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 11: practically give you more sugar than fiber. So you'd want

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02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:16,920
Speaker 11: to read labels and nationwide audience, we want to be

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Speaker 11: a knowledgeable people. All of us need to be reading labels,

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02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:24,200
Speaker 11: not just the diabetics in our community. Many of us

2146
02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 11: are undiagnosed diabetics. We don't even have the knowledge Robert

2147
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:31,680
Speaker 11: has about his health about our own self awareness, So

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02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:34,360
Speaker 11: you could be walking around diabetic and don't know it.

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Speaker 11: That happened to my own husband, and he was seeing

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Speaker 11: physicians regularly and still went under the radar with diabetes.

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Speaker 11: Diabetes is deadly, especially when undiagnosed. We've got to know,

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02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 11: and we should all as adults over twenty five years

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02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 11: of age or anybody would obesity regardless of age. You

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02:06:55,480 --> 02:06:58,760
Speaker 11: want to have a basic running knowledge. What is your

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02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:02,520
Speaker 11: basic average blowood pressure, What is your average blood sugar.

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02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:05,360
Speaker 11: You could check a fasting blood sugar first thing in

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02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 11: the morning, and you can check a blood sugar two

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02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:11,480
Speaker 11: hours after consuming a meal. Your blood sugar should be

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Speaker 11: under one hundred and twenty when you're consuming a meal,

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02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 11: preferably under ninety when you first wake up in the

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Speaker 11: morning and you're fasting overnight. So certainly, if you're checking

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02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 11: blood sugars and you're looking at two hundreds to four hundreds.

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Speaker 4: That's not good. That's not good.

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02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 11: Whether it's resulting from your body and you don't make insulin,

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Speaker 11: or it's resulting from your eating too much sugar in

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02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:39,200
Speaker 11: massive quantities all at once, it still is a red

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Speaker 11: flag to change your behavior. Robert, you're on the right track.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks for Robert thirteen Away from the Top.

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Speaker 1: That with doctor A. Again, she's a traditional doctor and

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Speaker 1: also a holistic doctor as well. She gave two for

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Speaker 1: one with doctor A. You can reach her an eight

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Speaker 1: hundred four five zero seventy eight to seventy six. James

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02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:01,520
Speaker 1: is in d and that's a question for doctor A.

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising James here on with doctor A. Is James

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Speaker 1: there online? Three?

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Speaker 10: Hello?

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Speaker 19: All right, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Yeah, is this James?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising brother.

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Speaker 10: That's my question.

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Speaker 20: Is my my prostate levels? My PSA I should say

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Speaker 20: it's about two nine one. Is there any way those

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02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:35,320
Speaker 20: through Duyeton? Is there any way those numbers could be

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02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 20: reduced or be lord?

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Speaker 16: Okay, James.

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Speaker 17: First of all, thank you for calling in.

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Speaker 11: Thank you for being a part of the Carl Nelson

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02:08:47,240 --> 02:08:50,720
Speaker 11: listenership across this country. Where are you calling us from

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Speaker 11: to learn about prostate cancer and PSA levels?

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Speaker 1: DC?

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Speaker 11: Okay, wonderful. The DMV is woke today.

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Speaker 16: You guys are up and participating.

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Speaker 11: I'm super proud of my hometown region. First of all,

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02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 11: black men are disproportionately affected by prostate cancer. High PSA

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02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:19,120
Speaker 11: level can indicate the cancer, especially if it's going up. So, Robert,

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Speaker 11: it's not just a matter of your number, but whether

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Speaker 11: or not that number has been going up or been

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Speaker 11: going down. While levels under four nanograms per milli liter

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02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 11: are often considered normal, results will vary by age, race,

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Speaker 11: size of your prostates, so a single number is not diagnostic.

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Speaker 11: Do you have a urologist, Robert, that has been tracking

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02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 11: your numbers?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm working on Johns Hopkins right now.

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02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:55,560
Speaker 11: Oh yes, I love even though Johns Hopkins is certainly

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02:09:55,640 --> 02:10:00,480
Speaker 11: the institution we know that took the heel of cells

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02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:05,400
Speaker 11: from Henrietta Lacks and profited, although they claim they did not,

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Speaker 11: Sure you did it. Medical research across the world was

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02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:12,680
Speaker 11: done with the heel of cells without her permission, without

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02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:15,560
Speaker 11: her compensation, So they can take credit for that, but

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Speaker 11: you know what that means, they owe us. So I'm

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02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:20,360
Speaker 11: so proud of you for getting top notch care at

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02:10:20,440 --> 02:10:23,080
Speaker 11: John Tompkins. How long have they been following you with

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02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:23,800
Speaker 11: your prostate?

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02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:27,280
Speaker 20: Trying about since April?

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02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:28,680
Speaker 4: Oh?

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02:10:28,720 --> 02:10:31,840
Speaker 11: Okay, so in this one calendar you know he'll do

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02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:32,320
Speaker 11: that year?

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02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 20: Yeah, yes, yeah, April twenty twenty five, okay.

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02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:38,640
Speaker 11: So not even a full year, just within this one

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02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 11: calendar year. Has your number gone down or up?

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02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 2: Oh?

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02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 20: You know what, No, my numbers have gone up. But

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02:10:44,680 --> 02:10:47,000
Speaker 20: let me take that back. It has been April twenty

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Speaker 20: twenty four, but my numbers, my numbers have gone up,

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02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:53,840
Speaker 20: because it was like that the two hasn't gone up

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02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:56,960
Speaker 20: a lot according to them, because because at first I

2229
02:10:57,040 --> 02:11:00,600
Speaker 20: went through I was I had a doctor him and Delaware.

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Speaker 20: But my numbers was like a two six earlier this year,

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02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:09,360
Speaker 20: like a two four, like back in Marshall twenty twenty five.

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02:11:09,400 --> 02:11:12,040
Speaker 20: It was like two four or two six one or

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Speaker 20: the other. And then when I went to the doctor

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02:11:14,080 --> 02:11:17,360
Speaker 20: last month, they said that that's not a big increase,

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02:11:17,440 --> 02:11:18,360
Speaker 20: but I don't know.

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02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:23,360
Speaker 11: Well, no, it's not a big increase. And again your

2237
02:11:23,480 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 11: number is below four, as I said, So as a

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02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:30,080
Speaker 11: general criteria, it's important for you to know, James. You know,

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02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 11: when we think about numbers in the PSA that are

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Speaker 11: below four, that is really not considered a high risk number.

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Speaker 11: Numbers between four and ten are borderline. And then when

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Speaker 11: you're over ten, now you're in serious condition. Okay, so

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02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:52,520
Speaker 11: you're being tested at Johns Hopkins for the prostate specific antigen.

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02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:55,240
Speaker 11: Why were you even referred to Johns Hopkins.

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Speaker 13: Why are they following this because a couple of years

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Speaker 13: ago a doctor who I was seeing a bloom of

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02:12:02,480 --> 02:12:06,080
Speaker 13: pearl on PC he saw that my numbers was going up,

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02:12:06,440 --> 02:12:10,640
Speaker 13: going up slightly and then it was like a two four.

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Speaker 20: It was like around a two four I think, then

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Speaker 20: a two six, and then well it was lower than that.

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Speaker 20: Actually this was back in October. It was like around

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Speaker 20: late twenty twenty three, because I because I was I

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02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 20: was diagnosed like what January twenty six or twenty of

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02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:33,720
Speaker 20: last year, twenty what twenty twenty four, January twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 20: So yeah, so that's that's when I was diacnosed. And

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Speaker 20: then then I because I went through Thomas Effstone Hospital

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Speaker 20: and I went to a Delaware doctor, and then then

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Speaker 20: I went to the DC doctor. Well John's costin in DC.

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Speaker 20: I just wanted to get different opinions on my next

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Speaker 20: steps because right now I'm an un the act of

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Speaker 20: surveillance right now.

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Speaker 11: Yes, you are so. Number one. The main thing I

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02:12:57,640 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 11: want to highlight for the national audience, James, is that

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02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:07,360
Speaker 11: you are seeking out multiple opinions within the medical community proactively.

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02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:11,040
Speaker 11: You know, You're not somebody being treated for prostate cancer.

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02:13:11,120 --> 02:13:15,360
Speaker 11: You're somebody being monitored for your PSA level to make

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Speaker 11: sure it's.

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Speaker 16: Not going up.

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Speaker 11: You are really doing the highest level of care that

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Speaker 11: we want black men to be doing. In addition to

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Speaker 11: monitoring PSA levels, there are radiologic studies that can identify

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02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:34,280
Speaker 11: whether or not we're dealing with a tumor or another condition.

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02:13:34,760 --> 02:13:37,800
Speaker 11: There are other causes of an elevated PSA which, again

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02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:42,040
Speaker 11: to clarify, yours is not elevated. Okay, yours is within

2275
02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:44,800
Speaker 11: a normal range, But we always want to make that

2276
02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:47,960
Speaker 11: personal because you're not a number. You're a human being,

2277
02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:51,080
Speaker 11: and so your doctor is the person that does the

2278
02:13:51,200 --> 02:13:56,080
Speaker 11: prostate exam, that knows you as a human being, that

2279
02:13:56,400 --> 02:14:02,080
Speaker 11: understands your medical and family history and puts this one

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02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:06,320
Speaker 11: lab value into reality for you. So the fact that

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02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:11,520
Speaker 11: you're being surveyed is wonderful. It's wonderful. There are other

2282
02:14:11,680 --> 02:14:17,160
Speaker 11: conditions for the nationwide audience, like prostatitis, like age, like

2283
02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:22,400
Speaker 11: recent activities, or procedures like urinary track infections, or like

2284
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:27,600
Speaker 11: benign prostatic hyperplasia. These are conditions that are not cancer

2285
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:32,240
Speaker 11: that can result in an elevated level. But again, James's

2286
02:14:32,360 --> 02:14:36,000
Speaker 11: level is not elevated, So we want to be mindful.

2287
02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:40,640
Speaker 11: Once we get a number, we want to track that number.

2288
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:43,320
Speaker 11: We want to make sure that number is not going up.

2289
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:48,080
Speaker 11: Persons who have a high PSA number want to repeat

2290
02:14:48,160 --> 02:14:51,240
Speaker 11: the tests confirm the number. They need to have a

2291
02:14:51,440 --> 02:14:57,640
Speaker 11: digital rectal examination to check physically for abnormalities. Is there

2292
02:14:57,680 --> 02:15:01,080
Speaker 11: a tumor that we can feel when we put one

2293
02:15:01,160 --> 02:15:04,760
Speaker 11: finger inside the rectum? As a medical expert? Are there

2294
02:15:04,840 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 11: additional tests that the person with the PSA needs to get,

2295
02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:12,800
Speaker 11: such as a prostate health index? Prostate health index is

2296
02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:15,120
Speaker 11: something you may want to ask your doctors about, James,

2297
02:15:15,480 --> 02:15:19,840
Speaker 11: because that gives you a basic score. Also, imaging tests

2298
02:15:19,960 --> 02:15:24,920
Speaker 11: like the MRI doing a prostate biopsy. These are options

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02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:29,680
Speaker 11: to guarantee with certainty outside of a lab value, whether

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Speaker 11: or not you're dealing with cancer. Thank you for calling, James.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it all right, Thanks James.

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Speaker 1: Five away from the top ed Joe's calling from Maryland

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02:15:40,160 --> 02:15:43,120
Speaker 1: has a question for your doctor at Grand Rising. Joe,

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02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:44,480
Speaker 1: your question for a doctor A.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Grand Rising to you called and Kevin and grand

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02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:53,040
Speaker 5: Riding to your doctor. A thank you for your expertise.

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02:15:54,440 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 5: BA see I am sixty five and I'm one hundred

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02:15:58,120 --> 02:16:01,840
Speaker 5: and sixty seven pounds, and I had a physical this

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02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:06,520
Speaker 5: year in May twenty twenty five, but yet I got

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02:16:06,760 --> 02:16:12,800
Speaker 5: hot blood pressure. My ah d L is two point

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02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:18,000
Speaker 5: five and my l DL is fifty three point eight.

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Speaker 1: My hold thought right there, Joe, Joe, hold up, and

2313
02:16:22,280 --> 02:16:24,720
Speaker 1: I'll have you repeat those numbers for doctor A when

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02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:25,960
Speaker 1: we get back. We got to take a quick break

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02:16:25,960 --> 02:16:28,720
Speaker 1: so our stations can identify themselves down the line. Family,

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02:16:28,840 --> 02:16:30,720
Speaker 1: I guess this is doctor A. As I mention, she's

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02:16:30,720 --> 02:16:34,119
Speaker 1: a holistic doctor. She's also traditional medical doctor as well,

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02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:37,280
Speaker 1: so you get two for one. Please please take advantage

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Speaker 1: of her expertise. Don't sit there and hope that somebody

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02:16:39,560 --> 02:16:41,480
Speaker 1: has a similar problem. It's going to call in. You

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02:16:41,680 --> 02:16:44,000
Speaker 1: call it, because what happens in these programs doctor they

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02:16:44,040 --> 02:16:46,200
Speaker 1: wait till the last minute. And I've always got a

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02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:47,760
Speaker 1: bunch of tweets, so I had to get to as well.

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02:16:47,800 --> 02:16:49,600
Speaker 1: But I'm giving the folks who are on hold the

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Speaker 1: first DIBs. So in that way, to speak to doctor

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Speaker 1: A eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 1: seventy six, and we'll take your phone calls. Next and

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, in Thanks for rolling with us on

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02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:01,320
Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning with guest that doctor A. As I

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02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:04,959
Speaker 1: mentioned doctor A, he's a traditional medical doctor and she's

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02:17:05,080 --> 02:17:08,080
Speaker 1: also a natural panic doctor, a holistic doctor. She get

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Speaker 1: two for one, and please take advantage of our expertise.

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02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:13,760
Speaker 1: And those of you who know have been to the

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02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:16,800
Speaker 1: doctor who got some health concerns, is he gets for free?

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02:17:17,080 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 1: You go to the doctor, you gonna make an appointment.

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02:17:19,280 --> 02:17:21,039
Speaker 1: If you ever try and make an appointment a doctor's

2337
02:17:21,040 --> 02:17:22,520
Speaker 1: office these days, you know how long it is, and

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02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:25,000
Speaker 1: you get ten to fifteen minutes max. And then you're out.

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02:17:25,520 --> 02:17:27,640
Speaker 1: You know, this is what's what's going on in the

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02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 1: medical industry these days. Oh, they hand you some pills,

2341
02:17:29,720 --> 02:17:32,560
Speaker 1: and of course, as doctor A says, all these medications

2342
02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:35,520
Speaker 1: have side effects. Having said that, though, take advantage of

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02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:37,880
Speaker 1: our expertise. Again, a phone number to Reacher right now.

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Speaker 1: It's eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

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02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:43,680
Speaker 1: seventy six. Lift. Joe had a serious of questions issues

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02:17:43,720 --> 02:17:45,760
Speaker 1: that he was reading for doctor A. So Joe, i'mna

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02:17:45,800 --> 02:17:47,640
Speaker 1: let you if you can start over again, we'd appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Carl. I'm gonna be quick. I know a

2349
02:17:51,440 --> 02:17:53,560
Speaker 5: lot of calls, all called in. Again, I'm sixty five

2350
02:17:53,680 --> 02:17:57,119
Speaker 5: years old. I wore one hundred and sixty five pounds.

2351
02:17:58,040 --> 02:18:01,080
Speaker 5: I had a physical done and found out I have

2352
02:18:01,240 --> 02:18:05,520
Speaker 5: high blood pressure. My eighth d L is forty four

2353
02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:11,520
Speaker 5: milligrams cholesterol ah d L two point five, my l

2354
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:18,040
Speaker 5: d L fifty three point eight milligrams cholesterol one oh

2355
02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:25,879
Speaker 5: eight milligrams. Now I've been given the those established stating, yeah,

2356
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:31,240
Speaker 5: five milligrams, and I've been given the Amolola pin five milligrams.

2357
02:18:31,280 --> 02:18:33,000
Speaker 5: So my concern is, I don't want to be on

2358
02:18:33,160 --> 02:18:35,360
Speaker 5: this pill for a long these pills for a long time,

2359
02:18:36,160 --> 02:18:38,400
Speaker 5: and I'm trying. I'm calling to see what can I

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02:18:38,560 --> 02:18:42,879
Speaker 5: do to kind of wean myself off of this or.

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02:18:43,160 --> 02:18:44,400
Speaker 10: Could I be weaned off of it?

2362
02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:47,000
Speaker 5: But again, I'm not a heavy I mean, I'm one

2363
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:48,840
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty seven pounds. I don't know why I

2364
02:18:48,920 --> 02:18:51,640
Speaker 5: got a high blood pressure, but that's where I am.

2365
02:18:52,520 --> 02:18:56,040
Speaker 5: I've been testing myself every now and then once a

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02:18:56,080 --> 02:19:01,080
Speaker 5: week twice with my high pressure monitor. I'm getting like

2367
02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:04,640
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty seven over eighty fore example, one

2368
02:19:04,800 --> 02:19:10,040
Speaker 5: nineteen over seventy five. So I'm gonna stop right this, okay.

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02:19:10,240 --> 02:19:13,480
Speaker 11: I am so proud of you for number one, as

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02:19:13,560 --> 02:19:18,560
Speaker 11: a man, being proactive about your health. Number two being

2371
02:19:18,840 --> 02:19:22,279
Speaker 11: healthy and of a healthy weight and a healthy cholesterol

2372
02:19:22,400 --> 02:19:26,920
Speaker 11: profile at the age of sixty five. That's so commendable. Secondly,

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02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:30,040
Speaker 11: I'm going to say this, you're somebody who really can

2374
02:19:30,200 --> 02:19:34,879
Speaker 11: get off medication. You absolutely, absolutely should make it your

2375
02:19:34,959 --> 02:19:38,120
Speaker 11: goal that within six months or so you can get

2376
02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 11: off medication. There are various things that you can take

2377
02:19:42,120 --> 02:19:46,720
Speaker 11: as supplements to help your blood pressure be normal without

2378
02:19:47,640 --> 02:19:51,360
Speaker 11: actually being on a prescription. Beat juice is one of them.

2379
02:19:51,920 --> 02:19:56,039
Speaker 11: Omega three fatty assids are a second supplementation that really

2380
02:19:56,160 --> 02:20:01,000
Speaker 11: is very useful. Black seed oil is very useful in

2381
02:20:01,160 --> 02:20:05,000
Speaker 11: terms of normalizing the blood pressure without actually being on medication.

2382
02:20:05,480 --> 02:20:09,120
Speaker 11: The fact that you're healthy means that actually, if you

2383
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:12,600
Speaker 11: begin to do one hundred and fifty minutes a week

2384
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:17,840
Speaker 11: of cardiovascular activity, you may be able to reverse what

2385
02:20:17,920 --> 02:20:20,920
Speaker 11: they're defining as high blood pressure. The blood pressures at

2386
02:20:20,959 --> 02:20:23,880
Speaker 11: home are normal. I would keep a blood pressure log.

2387
02:20:24,120 --> 02:20:26,880
Speaker 11: I would take that to my physician every time I

2388
02:20:26,959 --> 02:20:29,200
Speaker 11: had a doctor visit to make sure that I'm not

2389
02:20:29,320 --> 02:20:32,400
Speaker 11: having white coat syndrome, where the only time my pressure

2390
02:20:32,480 --> 02:20:35,200
Speaker 11: is high. Is in the doctor's office. You have very

2391
02:20:35,240 --> 02:20:39,240
Speaker 11: good blood pressures, you have very good cholesterol numbers, and

2392
02:20:39,400 --> 02:20:43,320
Speaker 11: so your diet and exercise should be able to free

2393
02:20:43,440 --> 02:20:46,959
Speaker 11: you completely from prescription. Thank you so much for calling

2394
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:49,000
Speaker 11: and thank you for your health profile.

2395
02:20:49,680 --> 02:20:54,000
Speaker 5: About the aid, can ask another question, yeah, yeah, is

2396
02:20:54,120 --> 02:20:57,240
Speaker 5: there someone in the PG area that you can recommend

2397
02:20:57,400 --> 02:21:03,400
Speaker 5: similar to your expertise? And then second, does health insurance

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02:21:03,480 --> 02:21:05,560
Speaker 5: cover that type of coverage? Because I try to call

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02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:08,880
Speaker 5: a nutritionis someone that can speak to me as you

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02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:10,040
Speaker 5: have done over the radio.

2401
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:14,759
Speaker 11: But is there yes, yes, yes, yes assurance.

2402
02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:16,680
Speaker 6: Right.

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02:21:16,840 --> 02:21:21,120
Speaker 11: Firstly, unfortunately know there is not. I don't have a

2404
02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:24,120
Speaker 11: rolodex because I moved out of that area, practiced in

2405
02:21:24,240 --> 02:21:27,280
Speaker 11: New Jersey for twenty some odd years, and now I'm

2406
02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:30,680
Speaker 11: relocated to the Midwest, So I don't have a current

2407
02:21:30,879 --> 02:21:35,760
Speaker 11: rolodex of primary care practitioners in the DMV. I may

2408
02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:39,520
Speaker 11: want to cultivate that for the listenership forward going. But

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02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:44,400
Speaker 11: second your second question insurance coverage. Insurance, as we know,

2410
02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:49,480
Speaker 11: profits from deny the claim. Okay, so we have to

2411
02:21:49,640 --> 02:21:53,600
Speaker 11: be very proactive when we're dealing with insurance companies. You

2412
02:21:53,720 --> 02:21:56,760
Speaker 11: pay them every single month and they really do owe you.

2413
02:21:57,200 --> 02:22:01,520
Speaker 11: They make millions off of denying black and brown people

2414
02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:05,039
Speaker 11: the services that we're paying for. So you really you've

2415
02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:08,400
Speaker 11: got to go to your healthcare practitioner and get them

2416
02:22:08,440 --> 02:22:12,400
Speaker 11: on board. I as somebody in my sixties, I'm a

2417
02:22:12,520 --> 02:22:16,480
Speaker 11: senior and I'm entitled to a nutritionist. If you're diagnosed

2418
02:22:16,520 --> 02:22:20,240
Speaker 11: me with two conditions high blood pressure, high cholesterol, you

2419
02:22:20,400 --> 02:22:23,800
Speaker 11: have me on these medications. I would like to fortify

2420
02:22:23,920 --> 02:22:27,320
Speaker 11: my life holistically and learn how to do this right

2421
02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:28,400
Speaker 11: with a nutritionist.

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02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:31,279
Speaker 16: Also, seek out classes in the community.

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02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:38,880
Speaker 11: Many hospital systems like MedStar are under obligation to serve

2424
02:22:39,040 --> 02:22:45,080
Speaker 11: our community and they do constant community enrichment programs about

2425
02:22:45,240 --> 02:22:51,520
Speaker 11: blood pressure, weight management, diabetes, quit smoking, obesity, etc. So

2426
02:22:51,640 --> 02:22:55,160
Speaker 11: you want to be very actively aware of any free

2427
02:22:55,320 --> 02:23:00,960
Speaker 11: programming about health, specifically high blood pressure high cholesterol that

2428
02:23:01,080 --> 02:23:05,160
Speaker 11: are available in your community. Secondly, go your healthcare practitioner

2429
02:23:05,440 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 11: that's caring for you and that diagnosed you and wrote prescriptions.

2430
02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:13,280
Speaker 11: Get them on board to solicit the insurance company on

2431
02:23:13,360 --> 02:23:13,959
Speaker 11: your behalf.

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02:23:15,360 --> 02:23:17,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, thanks, Joe. Let me ask you

2433
02:23:17,800 --> 02:23:19,440
Speaker 1: this before I say on the call of a doctor,

2434
02:23:19,600 --> 02:23:23,360
Speaker 1: how important is it to have medical doctors who look

2435
02:23:23,480 --> 02:23:26,160
Speaker 1: like us, because I know there's a paucity of medical

2436
02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:29,480
Speaker 1: folks from our community that's out there. How can we

2437
02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:33,120
Speaker 1: increase the amount of doctors that we have in the

2438
02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:36,000
Speaker 1: medical field, because you know, many people listening to us,

2439
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:38,880
Speaker 1: they probably don't have a black doctor. You know, people

2440
02:23:38,920 --> 02:23:40,680
Speaker 1: say it doesn't matter, but I think it does matter

2441
02:23:40,720 --> 02:23:43,040
Speaker 1: because all of my life, well I've had white doctors,

2442
02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:45,240
Speaker 1: but the black doctors, I think they have a little

2443
02:23:45,280 --> 02:23:48,040
Speaker 1: bit more care and understanding. That's what I used ever

2444
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:50,360
Speaker 1: since I found a black doctor, That's what I've been using.

2445
02:23:50,440 --> 02:23:52,640
Speaker 1: So I don't know if if the audience feels like me,

2446
02:23:52,840 --> 02:23:56,120
Speaker 1: but I have the total faith in our people because

2447
02:23:56,480 --> 02:23:58,200
Speaker 1: when you show, that's the reflection of the faith that

2448
02:23:58,280 --> 02:24:01,000
Speaker 1: you have in yourself. But anyway, get off my soul, Bux.

2449
02:24:01,120 --> 02:24:03,040
Speaker 1: How important is it do you think, doctor, that we

2450
02:24:03,080 --> 02:24:06,119
Speaker 1: have somebody looks like us giving us medical information?

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02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:10,280
Speaker 11: Carl, this is such a poignant question. I wish I

2452
02:24:10,320 --> 02:24:13,800
Speaker 11: could write it in bold face underline, but I'm only

2453
02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:19,240
Speaker 11: speaking verbally, Okay, if I could speak more figuratively, I

2454
02:24:19,360 --> 02:24:23,560
Speaker 11: want to bold face underline this answer that science has

2455
02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:27,200
Speaker 11: shown not just when it comes to health, but when

2456
02:24:27,240 --> 02:24:32,560
Speaker 11: it comes to everything regarding self. We as a human

2457
02:24:32,680 --> 02:24:37,800
Speaker 11: species do better when we can relate to the authority. Figure.

2458
02:24:37,920 --> 02:24:43,600
Speaker 11: I don't care if it's education, banking, automotive, or health,

2459
02:24:44,360 --> 02:24:50,199
Speaker 11: life and death. When doctors are of color, Black doctors

2460
02:24:50,600 --> 02:24:52,199
Speaker 11: better serve the black community.

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02:24:52,280 --> 02:24:53,240
Speaker 16: That's not an opinion.

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02:24:53,640 --> 02:24:57,160
Speaker 11: We've backed that up in studies. Little Black babies that

2463
02:24:57,240 --> 02:25:01,200
Speaker 11: are born prematurely fighting for their life in the intensive

2464
02:25:01,280 --> 02:25:05,600
Speaker 11: care unit CARL Studies have shown these little black babies

2465
02:25:05,640 --> 02:25:09,560
Speaker 11: are three times more likely to die than their white counterparts.

2466
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:13,360
Speaker 11: But when they have a black physician. Now they can

2467
02:25:13,400 --> 02:25:16,600
Speaker 11: barely see out their little premature eyes. Okay, there is

2468
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:20,720
Speaker 11: something happening where they are more likely to live to

2469
02:25:20,800 --> 02:25:24,200
Speaker 11: the age of one when they have a black physician.

2470
02:25:24,680 --> 02:25:27,840
Speaker 11: This is true of black women. Black women have not

2471
02:25:28,040 --> 02:25:28,800
Speaker 11: stopped being the.

2472
02:25:28,959 --> 02:25:30,199
Speaker 16: Mule of America.

2473
02:25:30,600 --> 02:25:34,320
Speaker 11: When we go to the er, they don't see us.

2474
02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:38,440
Speaker 11: When we are in labor. They figure, just like they

2475
02:25:38,520 --> 02:25:41,240
Speaker 11: did with the slave, will go birth your baby and

2476
02:25:41,320 --> 02:25:44,640
Speaker 11: shut up. There was a black woman in labor with

2477
02:25:44,760 --> 02:25:50,080
Speaker 11: her third child within this past month twoenty twenty five.

2478
02:25:50,360 --> 02:25:54,320
Speaker 11: Now we've come a long way, allegedly from Charles Drew,

2479
02:25:54,400 --> 02:25:57,520
Speaker 11: who has denied access to a white hospital.

2480
02:25:57,840 --> 02:25:58,120
Speaker 16: Okay.

2481
02:25:58,560 --> 02:26:05,640
Speaker 11: However, Francis Hospital in northwest Indiana evaluated a black woman

2482
02:26:06,080 --> 02:26:09,680
Speaker 11: in active labor with her third baby. Carl sent the

2483
02:26:09,800 --> 02:26:13,840
Speaker 11: lady home, told her we can't be bothered, you're not ready.

2484
02:26:14,480 --> 02:26:18,080
Speaker 11: She delivered the baby by herself in the car on

2485
02:26:18,200 --> 02:26:21,640
Speaker 11: the highway eight minutes after being kicked out the hospital.

2486
02:26:21,760 --> 02:26:24,680
Speaker 16: Okay, so we have not come a long way.

2487
02:26:24,760 --> 02:26:29,280
Speaker 11: I started the show with saying that the statistics are

2488
02:26:29,400 --> 02:26:32,720
Speaker 11: really just as bad as they were in the nineteen thirties.

2489
02:26:32,879 --> 02:26:37,039
Speaker 11: In the nineteen thirties, black women were dying left and right.

2490
02:26:38,320 --> 02:26:41,720
Speaker 11: We didn't have access to white hospitals. We allegedly had

2491
02:26:41,959 --> 02:26:48,200
Speaker 11: been disenfranchised educationally, economically. Well, now we're doctors, lawyer's Indian chiefs. Okay,

2492
02:26:48,440 --> 02:26:51,680
Speaker 11: we've run for president, but we are still dying at

2493
02:26:51,720 --> 02:26:52,640
Speaker 11: the highest rates.

2494
02:26:53,200 --> 02:26:56,359
Speaker 16: Yes, there is still structural racism.

2495
02:26:56,720 --> 02:27:00,520
Speaker 11: There is still a difference and a despair in the

2496
02:27:00,640 --> 02:27:05,800
Speaker 11: treatment of Becky versus Sidiqua. No, we're treated the same,

2497
02:27:06,080 --> 02:27:08,920
Speaker 11: We're not even seen the same. And so to see

2498
02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:13,200
Speaker 11: the patient and serve the patient, it is best done,

2499
02:27:13,280 --> 02:27:17,080
Speaker 11: Carl by black physicians, who represent less than ten percent

2500
02:27:17,560 --> 02:27:22,320
Speaker 11: of the total US physician body. So we need to

2501
02:27:22,680 --> 02:27:29,039
Speaker 11: encourage Howard University, Maharry Medical College, and other historically black

2502
02:27:29,120 --> 02:27:33,160
Speaker 11: colleges to crank out our black doctors. Eighty eight percent

2503
02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:36,560
Speaker 11: of black doctors come from HBCUs. And although I went

2504
02:27:36,600 --> 02:27:40,440
Speaker 11: to George Washington in my hometown Washington, DC to train,

2505
02:27:41,120 --> 02:27:44,240
Speaker 11: I went to the university where Reagan went when he

2506
02:27:44,440 --> 02:27:47,320
Speaker 11: was shot, our only living president to be shot and

2507
02:27:47,360 --> 02:27:52,160
Speaker 11: treated at a hospital. HBCUs craik ount the majority over

2508
02:27:52,280 --> 02:27:56,840
Speaker 11: two thirds of our black doctors. So black people who

2509
02:27:57,000 --> 02:28:00,240
Speaker 11: want to leave behind a legacy before leaving this earth.

2510
02:28:00,959 --> 02:28:04,800
Speaker 11: Many of our callers have been over sixty. Guess what

2511
02:28:04,959 --> 02:28:07,760
Speaker 11: you can do, besides leaving money to your kids, who

2512
02:28:07,800 --> 02:28:11,880
Speaker 11: may mock the whole thing up, donate to your HBCUs

2513
02:28:12,360 --> 02:28:16,279
Speaker 11: to further the excellence and the cultivation of black doctors.

2514
02:28:16,400 --> 02:28:17,480
Speaker 11: It does matter, Carl.

2515
02:28:18,560 --> 02:28:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2516
02:28:18,920 --> 02:28:21,600
Speaker 1: And the sad thing about HBCUs many of them in

2517
02:28:21,680 --> 02:28:24,920
Speaker 1: the professional schools, whether it be a dentistry or or

2518
02:28:26,040 --> 02:28:29,680
Speaker 1: medical or or even the doctor, like any kind of

2519
02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:33,360
Speaker 1: doctors that the folks from other countries, you know, they

2520
02:28:33,360 --> 02:28:36,560
Speaker 1: don't look like us, but they go to the HBECUS

2521
02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:38,840
Speaker 1: to get their medical training. So this is something we've

2522
02:28:38,879 --> 02:28:40,959
Speaker 1: got it. We've got but that's for another show because

2523
02:28:40,959 --> 02:28:43,320
Speaker 1: that's a whole different area. We've got to tackle family.

2524
02:28:43,400 --> 02:28:44,760
Speaker 1: So let's move on that because I have a bunch

2525
02:28:44,800 --> 02:28:47,200
Speaker 1: of folks around it. Got questions for a doctor A.

2526
02:28:47,560 --> 02:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Ruth is online too, calling from DC, Ruth grand Rising.

2527
02:28:50,280 --> 02:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Your question for doctor A. Is Ruth there online too?

2528
02:28:56,560 --> 02:28:58,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on there. Let's let's go out.

2529
02:28:59,040 --> 02:28:59,280
Speaker 2: Hello.

2530
02:29:00,080 --> 02:29:00,800
Speaker 1: Oh there you are.

2531
02:29:01,280 --> 02:29:07,279
Speaker 7: Yes, Yes, I'm here, doctor A. You talked about relieving

2532
02:29:07,400 --> 02:29:14,040
Speaker 7: pain from neuropathy and I didn't get that information. Could

2533
02:29:14,120 --> 02:29:15,560
Speaker 7: you give that information again?

2534
02:29:19,440 --> 02:29:22,440
Speaker 11: Thank you for calling, Ruth, and thank you for your

2535
02:29:22,720 --> 02:29:27,160
Speaker 11: strength and your proactive interest. So I was speaking about

2536
02:29:27,320 --> 02:29:32,959
Speaker 11: the life wave patches, and this is using LightWave technology,

2537
02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:34,760
Speaker 11: so basically it's wearable.

2538
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:35,959
Speaker 17: I wear them.

2539
02:29:36,200 --> 02:29:39,119
Speaker 11: I have been wearing them now for two years. As

2540
02:29:39,160 --> 02:29:43,160
Speaker 11: we close out twenty twenty five, Ruth, I don't have neuropathy,

2541
02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:47,240
Speaker 11: but I have a very severe back pain for being

2542
02:29:47,320 --> 02:29:50,440
Speaker 11: a twenty plus year obstetrician. See, I don't leave the

2543
02:29:50,560 --> 02:29:54,560
Speaker 11: pushing stage of labor to the nurse. I wedged my

2544
02:29:54,760 --> 02:29:58,080
Speaker 11: little body in between that woman's legs and I'm doing

2545
02:29:58,160 --> 02:30:01,280
Speaker 11: all the pushing with her. I've got a herniated disk

2546
02:30:01,360 --> 02:30:04,960
Speaker 11: to show for it, and the pain is excruciating. I

2547
02:30:05,120 --> 02:30:07,560
Speaker 11: almost feel like I'm in a vice script when I'm

2548
02:30:07,600 --> 02:30:10,720
Speaker 11: in pain. And so I've been using life Wave patches

2549
02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:15,080
Speaker 11: because I can't gobble down opioids and become addicted. Okay,

2550
02:30:15,560 --> 02:30:20,680
Speaker 11: I am tested regularly as a practicing physician. Secondly, I

2551
02:30:20,720 --> 02:30:24,320
Speaker 11: don't want to gobble down a boatload of tylinol. There's

2552
02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:26,840
Speaker 11: side effects to the liver. I don't want to gulpe

2553
02:30:26,879 --> 02:30:31,199
Speaker 11: down a boatload of e motren or advil. There's side

2554
02:30:31,240 --> 02:30:34,800
Speaker 11: effects to chronic use of anything over the counter, even

2555
02:30:34,840 --> 02:30:38,080
Speaker 11: a sleep aid it's only meant for two months. So therefore,

2556
02:30:38,600 --> 02:30:44,680
Speaker 11: using a wearable patch that activates infrared technology to activate

2557
02:30:44,840 --> 02:30:49,840
Speaker 11: your own body stem cells, I've had pain relief. Not

2558
02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:52,840
Speaker 11: only have I had pain relief, my husband, who I

2559
02:30:52,959 --> 02:30:58,160
Speaker 11: mentioned earlier in the show, was undiagnosed with diabetes and

2560
02:30:58,480 --> 02:31:01,560
Speaker 11: all of a sudden in the throes of diabetes as

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Speaker 11: if it were a tsunami, and he now wears the

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Speaker 11: patches as a form of management of diabetes and was

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02:31:09,959 --> 02:31:14,120
Speaker 11: able to get off his infuluin completely. So the patches

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02:31:14,200 --> 02:31:17,960
Speaker 11: are activating your body's healing nature. You want to go

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Speaker 11: to lifewave dot com backslash my name doctor R R. Emerson.

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02:31:25,920 --> 02:31:30,320
Speaker 7: Well, could you repeat that. I'm sorry, I can't write wave.

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02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:36,640
Speaker 11: Okay, that's okay, lifewave l I F E W A

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Speaker 11: ve lifewave dot com backslash d R A M E

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Speaker 11: R s O N doctor Emerson.

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Speaker 19: Okay.

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Speaker 11: Now, once you go there, then you're looking at activate

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Speaker 11: and elevate with X thirty nine. So look for X

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Speaker 11: thirty nine. You want to click that button so you

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02:32:04,280 --> 02:32:06,920
Speaker 11: can learn about X thirty nine and be able to

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02:32:06,959 --> 02:32:07,800
Speaker 11: place your order.

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Speaker 19: Okay, okay, does that make sense?

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I certainly appreciate that, and I appreciate everything.

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02:32:17,640 --> 02:32:20,440
Speaker 7: You know, I hear you, and I just thank God

2579
02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:20,760
Speaker 7: for you.

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02:32:23,720 --> 02:32:27,080
Speaker 11: I'm so thankful for you calling and showing that acknowledgment.

2581
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:31,640
Speaker 11: It is rare that black women lift up and celebrate

2582
02:32:31,720 --> 02:32:35,440
Speaker 11: other black women. We are constantly being shown in the media.

2583
02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:38,039
Speaker 11: Once again, we talked about media earlier in the show,

2584
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:42,359
Speaker 11: the damning effect it has on the black psyche. Constantly,

2585
02:32:42,800 --> 02:32:48,360
Speaker 11: Reality TV is showing black women degrading and demoralizing other

2586
02:32:48,480 --> 02:32:50,959
Speaker 11: black women. So for you to come on the show

2587
02:32:51,120 --> 02:32:53,960
Speaker 11: and lift me up and celebrate me, or you just

2588
02:32:54,080 --> 02:32:56,039
Speaker 11: made my basis well.

2589
02:32:56,160 --> 02:32:59,600
Speaker 19: Thank God, thank God for you again and again.

2590
02:33:01,520 --> 02:33:04,400
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Ruth at doctor. We've got to step aside.

2591
02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:05,600
Speaker 1: We've got some more folks want to tell you. Got

2592
02:33:05,640 --> 02:33:07,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of tweets as well. Family, you want to

2593
02:33:07,640 --> 02:33:10,760
Speaker 1: join this conversation. You got questions, health questions. Speak to

2594
02:33:10,840 --> 02:33:14,640
Speaker 1: our guest doctor A. She's a natural doctor, a traditional

2595
02:33:14,720 --> 02:33:16,920
Speaker 1: doctor and a natural padic doctor as well. That's what

2596
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:18,640
Speaker 1: I want to say. You can reach her at eight

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02:33:18,760 --> 02:33:21,400
Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and

2598
02:33:21,440 --> 02:33:24,040
Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family,

2599
02:33:24,120 --> 02:33:26,080
Speaker 1: thanks for rolling with us on this Wednesday morning with

2600
02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:28,560
Speaker 1: our guest doctor. As I mentioned, she's a natural pathic doctor.

2601
02:33:28,600 --> 02:33:31,000
Speaker 1: She's also a traditional medical doctor. She get two for one.

2602
02:33:31,320 --> 02:33:33,040
Speaker 1: Got a health concern, reach out to us at eight

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02:33:33,160 --> 02:33:36,640
Speaker 1: hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six. Sister the

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02:33:36,720 --> 02:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Kashibi's calling us from Silver Spring in Maryland. She's online

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02:33:39,760 --> 02:33:42,320
Speaker 1: five Grand Rising sister of Kashiba and with doctor A.

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02:33:43,920 --> 02:33:48,840
Speaker 15: Grand Rising curl and thank you for having a naturopathic

2607
02:33:48,920 --> 02:33:54,040
Speaker 15: as well as an MD on your program. Just what

2608
02:33:54,200 --> 02:34:01,160
Speaker 15: I need. Number one I'm taking now and I'm not

2609
02:34:01,400 --> 02:34:04,720
Speaker 15: feeling very well, so I'll try to be as articulates

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02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:09,800
Speaker 15: as I can. I'm taking five meds for high blood

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02:34:09,840 --> 02:34:15,400
Speaker 15: pressure and cholesterol. That's what my cardiologist has.

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02:34:15,320 --> 02:34:15,720
Speaker 6: Put me on.

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02:34:15,879 --> 02:34:17,000
Speaker 15: I have stints.

2614
02:34:18,400 --> 02:34:20,640
Speaker 8: Now, and I have.

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02:34:23,080 --> 02:34:27,880
Speaker 15: Like right now or just most recently, I've been suffering.

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02:34:28,120 --> 02:34:29,800
Speaker 15: I don't know if as a result of taking all

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02:34:29,879 --> 02:34:33,640
Speaker 15: these meds, but I have constipation. The only thing that

2618
02:34:34,480 --> 02:34:38,120
Speaker 15: leaves it is this magnesium situate. Now, when I do

2619
02:34:38,480 --> 02:34:44,520
Speaker 15: pass stool, what comes out, It'll come out brown, but

2620
02:34:44,680 --> 02:34:48,360
Speaker 15: it has these they look like almost like a little

2621
02:34:48,920 --> 02:34:55,600
Speaker 15: like a stone, maybe a small stone or something embedded

2622
02:34:55,760 --> 02:34:59,160
Speaker 15: in that in that stool. You know, the steel is solid,

2623
02:35:00,240 --> 02:35:04,520
Speaker 15: at least at least when I passed today, but it

2624
02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:10,200
Speaker 15: has it's kind of grayish and black in color. You know,

2625
02:35:10,280 --> 02:35:14,240
Speaker 15: it doesn't look like stool. It looks like something else.

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02:35:14,360 --> 02:35:16,920
Speaker 15: I couldn't think of anything that I would have eaten

2627
02:35:17,320 --> 02:35:21,120
Speaker 15: that looks like it. Do you think I could have

2628
02:35:21,280 --> 02:35:25,000
Speaker 15: some sort of parasite or something's coming out?

2629
02:35:26,240 --> 02:35:26,400
Speaker 11: Is it?

2630
02:35:26,760 --> 02:35:29,040
Speaker 15: I didn't take a picture of it, unfortunately.

2631
02:35:30,080 --> 02:35:32,280
Speaker 11: Okay, let me let me firstly, let me get the

2632
02:35:32,360 --> 02:35:35,640
Speaker 11: basics again. Tell me your name, age, and where you're

2633
02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:39,160
Speaker 11: calling from. Caller. I'm so appreciatively recalled this morning. This

2634
02:35:39,320 --> 02:35:45,199
Speaker 11: is critically important. Your name, your name, age, and your region.

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02:35:46,280 --> 02:35:52,200
Speaker 15: Okay, Silver Spring, Maryland. Okay, I'm eighty one.

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02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:57,240
Speaker 11: Oh my god, God bless you. Firstly, right, many of

2637
02:35:57,360 --> 02:35:59,480
Speaker 11: us will never live to see the day of being

2638
02:35:59,560 --> 02:36:02,920
Speaker 11: eighty one, So you're obviously doing something right now. You

2639
02:36:03,040 --> 02:36:05,960
Speaker 11: were diagnosed with high blood pressure and high cholesterol. How

2640
02:36:06,040 --> 02:36:06,520
Speaker 11: long ago?

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02:36:08,160 --> 02:36:13,160
Speaker 15: Oh, I would say, well over a year ago.

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02:36:13,959 --> 02:36:19,000
Speaker 11: No cholesterol got okay. So my recommendation to you is

2643
02:36:19,160 --> 02:36:22,960
Speaker 11: this a whole second opinion. Here is the bottom line.

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02:36:23,160 --> 02:36:27,720
Speaker 11: At age eighty one, you have contributed at least forty

2645
02:36:28,040 --> 02:36:31,440
Speaker 11: years to tax paying in the United States of America,

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02:36:31,560 --> 02:36:35,080
Speaker 11: at least Okay. Therefore, you are entitled and I want

2647
02:36:35,120 --> 02:36:39,320
Speaker 11: you to act like a presidential alumnus in terms of

2648
02:36:39,400 --> 02:36:44,880
Speaker 11: your entitlement to phenomenal health care. When a person has

2649
02:36:45,040 --> 02:36:48,440
Speaker 11: any medical diagnosis, I don't care if it's migrain, headache,

2650
02:36:49,080 --> 02:36:54,640
Speaker 11: allergy to tomato sauce, or high blood pressure or cancer.

2651
02:36:55,280 --> 02:36:59,720
Speaker 11: Your entitlement based on a new diagnosis is a second opinion.

2652
02:37:00,280 --> 02:37:02,720
Speaker 11: When you get that second opinion, you're going to bring

2653
02:37:03,000 --> 02:37:07,080
Speaker 11: up that you're having stool changes. Then they don't give

2654
02:37:07,160 --> 02:37:10,760
Speaker 11: them a stool sample. Let's not guess about this once again.

2655
02:37:11,120 --> 02:37:14,200
Speaker 11: There are people that are in Africa and countries that

2656
02:37:14,280 --> 02:37:18,440
Speaker 11: are ravaged with war. There are people who cannot find

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02:37:19,120 --> 02:37:22,560
Speaker 11: a nearby hospital literally to save their life. There are

2658
02:37:22,600 --> 02:37:25,880
Speaker 11: people who would have to travel in Gaza in the

2659
02:37:25,959 --> 02:37:30,240
Speaker 11: African continent hundreds of miles to get to a safe hospital.

2660
02:37:30,720 --> 02:37:33,320
Speaker 11: When we're in the United States of America, I cannot

2661
02:37:33,440 --> 02:37:38,680
Speaker 11: remind us enough we have access, which globally is not

2662
02:37:38,879 --> 02:37:43,640
Speaker 11: a reality. So you're already accessing as a woman who

2663
02:37:43,920 --> 02:37:45,520
Speaker 11: knows her rights.

2664
02:37:46,000 --> 02:37:47,600
Speaker 16: You are showing up.

2665
02:37:47,720 --> 02:37:52,160
Speaker 11: To your health care provider, so kudos do more because

2666
02:37:52,200 --> 02:37:55,840
Speaker 11: you've got intelligent questions that are not being answered. You

2667
02:37:56,000 --> 02:38:00,520
Speaker 11: may have high blood pressure if you really do repeat

2668
02:38:00,560 --> 02:38:04,080
Speaker 11: itself no matter who the provider is. So when you

2669
02:38:04,240 --> 02:38:07,000
Speaker 11: show up to a whole new provider as a brand

2670
02:38:07,040 --> 02:38:10,960
Speaker 11: new patient, they should be able to confirm you have

2671
02:38:11,080 --> 02:38:13,600
Speaker 11: high blood pressure and you have high cholesterol.

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02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:14,480
Speaker 16: They should be.

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02:38:14,520 --> 02:38:18,120
Speaker 11: Able to dive deep into what is going on with

2674
02:38:18,320 --> 02:38:23,280
Speaker 11: the stool changes. Number one is important to know high

2675
02:38:23,360 --> 02:38:26,880
Speaker 11: blood pressure. We treat it because we want to prevent

2676
02:38:27,040 --> 02:38:30,680
Speaker 11: heart disease. Heart disease is not only the number one

2677
02:38:30,879 --> 02:38:36,240
Speaker 11: killer of people in this country. Okay, our stress levels

2678
02:38:36,280 --> 02:38:41,039
Speaker 11: are killing us, but women since nineteen eighty four die

2679
02:38:41,160 --> 02:38:44,520
Speaker 11: at a higher rate from heart disease than our male counterpart.

2680
02:38:45,200 --> 02:38:48,080
Speaker 11: So you calling it eighty one. If I even make

2681
02:38:48,240 --> 02:38:51,080
Speaker 11: one difference on this show and it's your life, then

2682
02:38:51,120 --> 02:38:54,240
Speaker 11: I want to be that game changer. So I really

2683
02:38:54,600 --> 02:38:57,440
Speaker 11: I take it quite personally. I want you to get

2684
02:38:57,480 --> 02:38:59,920
Speaker 11: to ninety one. I want you to get on top

2685
02:39:00,120 --> 02:39:02,240
Speaker 11: of whatever it may be caused in high blood pressure.

2686
02:39:02,680 --> 02:39:07,520
Speaker 11: Reduce your sodium intake. Aim for a daily sodium intake

2687
02:39:07,840 --> 02:39:13,840
Speaker 11: that is fifteen hundred milligrams or less. Sodium causes fluid retention,

2688
02:39:14,240 --> 02:39:17,760
Speaker 11: and especially as you age, your sodium intake is going

2689
02:39:17,840 --> 02:39:20,760
Speaker 11: to be one of the most important criteria as to

2690
02:39:20,840 --> 02:39:23,440
Speaker 11: whether or not you have high blood pressure and high

2691
02:39:23,480 --> 02:39:28,720
Speaker 11: cholesterol that persists. Enrich your diet in heart healthy foods

2692
02:39:29,160 --> 02:39:34,600
Speaker 11: from garlic to ginger, cinnamon, hibiscus, and again, my preacher

2693
02:39:35,520 --> 02:39:40,959
Speaker 11: pit is what Omega three fatty acid. Eliminate alcohol from

2694
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:45,040
Speaker 11: your diet, reduce your total sugar intake, and watch your

2695
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:47,879
Speaker 11: numbers turn around. But I'm proud of you for even

2696
02:39:48,040 --> 02:39:52,720
Speaker 11: knowing to check those numbers to be mindful of those numbers.

2697
02:39:53,160 --> 02:39:56,800
Speaker 11: Exercise one hundred and fifty minutes a week aerobic activity,

2698
02:39:57,160 --> 02:39:58,000
Speaker 11: and watch.

2699
02:39:58,160 --> 02:39:59,880
Speaker 16: All of your medical diagnoses.

2700
02:40:00,160 --> 02:40:00,520
Speaker 5: Vanish.

2701
02:40:01,000 --> 02:40:04,840
Speaker 11: Make sure you're sleeping seven to eight hours every single night.

2702
02:40:05,240 --> 02:40:09,480
Speaker 11: That also regulates blood pressure. Okay, if you're a smoker,

2703
02:40:09,560 --> 02:40:12,840
Speaker 11: make sure you quit smoking. If you have weight management issues,

2704
02:40:13,280 --> 02:40:16,960
Speaker 11: get to an ideal body weight, Increase your muscle mass,

2705
02:40:17,280 --> 02:40:21,480
Speaker 11: strengthen your bones, do strength training three times a week,

2706
02:40:21,840 --> 02:40:27,080
Speaker 11: reduce your stress. Practice mindfulness with slow breathing and meditation.

2707
02:40:27,760 --> 02:40:30,000
Speaker 11: These are the things you can do at eighty one

2708
02:40:30,320 --> 02:40:31,800
Speaker 11: to get off the medications.

2709
02:40:32,160 --> 02:40:33,640
Speaker 16: But explore what's going.

2710
02:40:33,560 --> 02:40:34,160
Speaker 6: On with the bow.

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02:40:34,400 --> 02:40:38,600
Speaker 11: That's very concerning, and it has my attention holistically and

2712
02:40:38,840 --> 02:40:41,880
Speaker 11: from the Western medicine of training, you have my attention.

2713
02:40:42,280 --> 02:40:45,760
Speaker 11: Explore that is sugar is a gave.

2714
02:40:46,000 --> 02:40:48,119
Speaker 15: Considered sugar or honey.

2715
02:40:48,120 --> 02:40:52,760
Speaker 11: Gave is a substitute. So you can certainly replace white

2716
02:40:52,840 --> 02:40:55,200
Speaker 11: sugar and use a gave, and you're going to have

2717
02:40:55,440 --> 02:40:59,560
Speaker 11: not just a good replacement as opposed to sakering or

2718
02:40:59,680 --> 02:41:04,440
Speaker 11: others sugar substitutes that are actually cancer causing. A gave

2719
02:41:04,680 --> 02:41:07,520
Speaker 11: is not It does the antithesis. A gave is a

2720
02:41:07,600 --> 02:41:11,760
Speaker 11: healing agent. Just as honey is for our body. Both

2721
02:41:11,840 --> 02:41:15,760
Speaker 11: of those are your go tos as opposed to sugar,

2722
02:41:16,400 --> 02:41:20,160
Speaker 11: sacred sweet, and low in every other form of foolishness

2723
02:41:20,240 --> 02:41:21,039
Speaker 11: that man invented.

2724
02:41:23,280 --> 02:41:27,119
Speaker 15: Okay, okay, I don't smoke. I mean I don't smoke.

2725
02:41:27,360 --> 02:41:30,360
Speaker 15: I used to smoke. I haven't smoked in forty years.

2726
02:41:30,760 --> 02:41:33,160
Speaker 15: And I don't drink. I haven't had a drop of

2727
02:41:33,240 --> 02:41:37,199
Speaker 15: alcohol and in that of forty over forty years either.

2728
02:41:38,400 --> 02:41:42,879
Speaker 15: So you know, I've had cancer and I have stints

2729
02:41:42,959 --> 02:41:47,120
Speaker 15: in my heart. I have three stints. Not in my heart,

2730
02:41:47,200 --> 02:41:49,600
Speaker 15: I guess in my arteries or whatever.

2731
02:41:50,320 --> 02:41:53,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, the arteries, the arteries of your heart. So the

2732
02:41:53,480 --> 02:41:55,760
Speaker 11: bottom line is this, and thank you for saying that,

2733
02:41:55,879 --> 02:41:58,360
Speaker 11: thank you for adding that. That's why the health history

2734
02:41:58,400 --> 02:42:02,280
Speaker 11: and the physical exam is not replaceable. The fact is

2735
02:42:02,520 --> 02:42:05,320
Speaker 11: you don't just have high blood pressure. You have heart disease.

2736
02:42:05,959 --> 02:42:09,280
Speaker 11: You have been treated for heart disease. Heart disease is

2737
02:42:09,320 --> 02:42:11,840
Speaker 11: the number one killer. So the fact that you have

2738
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:15,040
Speaker 11: stints in your heart, oh yeah, this is serious. You've

2739
02:42:15,280 --> 02:42:19,800
Speaker 11: got to be exercising. You've got to do that cardiovascular

2740
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:23,640
Speaker 11: activity one hundred and fifty minutes, join a group class,

2741
02:42:24,040 --> 02:42:27,640
Speaker 11: or do it online. Okay, pull up yoga, pull up

2742
02:42:28,520 --> 02:42:32,680
Speaker 11: any cardiovascular you know, aerobic activity. It's right there on

2743
02:42:32,800 --> 02:42:35,600
Speaker 11: YouTube for free. Pull it up and do it right

2744
02:42:35,640 --> 02:42:38,640
Speaker 11: there in your house. Join a group class because leaving

2745
02:42:38,720 --> 02:42:42,160
Speaker 11: the house is therapeutic and healthy. I'm gonna get back

2746
02:42:42,160 --> 02:42:44,640
Speaker 11: to vitamin D because I need you to be vitamin

2747
02:42:44,760 --> 02:42:48,760
Speaker 11: D sufficient as well as all these other recommendations. Vitamin

2748
02:42:48,879 --> 02:42:53,760
Speaker 11: D experts recommend ten to fifteen minutes of sun exposure

2749
02:42:54,200 --> 02:42:58,960
Speaker 11: over forty percent of your skin, and that's daily, or

2750
02:42:59,080 --> 02:43:02,680
Speaker 11: you can do twenty to twenty five minutes three times

2751
02:43:02,760 --> 02:43:05,800
Speaker 11: a week. You've got to get off the computer and

2752
02:43:05,879 --> 02:43:11,000
Speaker 11: get outdoors. I cannot emphasize enough the healing power of nature.

2753
02:43:11,879 --> 02:43:14,920
Speaker 11: It is known that when you go into a forest,

2754
02:43:15,360 --> 02:43:20,519
Speaker 11: your natural killer cells of your body are activated. Step outside.

2755
02:43:21,160 --> 02:43:24,640
Speaker 11: I lived two blocks from the beach, and so even

2756
02:43:24,760 --> 02:43:28,920
Speaker 11: during COVID, I could go to the beach right next

2757
02:43:28,959 --> 02:43:34,199
Speaker 11: to Lake Michigan, talk to my ancestors and meditate, walk

2758
02:43:34,320 --> 02:43:38,240
Speaker 11: in the sand, let the waves wash over my feet.

2759
02:43:38,879 --> 02:43:42,440
Speaker 11: You cannot isolate yourself and your little pajamas on a

2760
02:43:42,560 --> 02:43:46,000
Speaker 11: computer day after day and think that you're going to

2761
02:43:46,040 --> 02:43:50,960
Speaker 11: be spiritually, in psychologically and physically balanced. You're not Get outdoors,

2762
02:43:51,280 --> 02:43:56,640
Speaker 11: all listeners, get out. Yes it's winter, layer, but get outdoors.

2763
02:43:56,720 --> 02:43:57,480
Speaker 11: I'm in Chicago.

2764
02:43:57,560 --> 02:43:58,800
Speaker 16: If I could do it, you can do it.

2765
02:44:00,160 --> 02:44:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, it's just because we got to move on.

2766
02:44:02,959 --> 02:44:04,240
Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of folks trying to get to

2767
02:44:04,360 --> 02:44:06,560
Speaker 1: doctor A. But I thank you for your call. Twenty

2768
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Speaker 1: eight away from the top day, Let's go to Michigan.

2769
02:44:08,920 --> 02:44:12,080
Speaker 1: Sister Leone's reaching out to us online. Three grand rising

2770
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Speaker 1: Sister Leone.

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Speaker 19: With doctor A, grand rising brother Carl grand Rising Doctor A.

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Speaker 19: Two questions if you don't mind, ma'am. But first, okay,

2773
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Speaker 19: I'm seventy years old, non smoke and non drinker, and

2774
02:44:28,320 --> 02:44:32,120
Speaker 19: I have an issue with osteo arthritis and the knee.

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02:44:32,840 --> 02:44:35,039
Speaker 19: I have a question for you about that. And didn't

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02:44:35,040 --> 02:44:39,840
Speaker 19: I have a second question. I'm curious. Well, since the

2777
02:44:40,280 --> 02:44:46,680
Speaker 19: COVID pandemic and my understanding a little better about this

2778
02:44:46,800 --> 02:44:49,360
Speaker 19: thing called death by medicine and this thing called a

2779
02:44:49,480 --> 02:44:56,640
Speaker 19: Flexner report and the story of Henrietta Lax in the

2780
02:44:56,720 --> 02:45:00,160
Speaker 19: Medical Apartheip book, it has really shaken my confidence in

2781
02:45:00,200 --> 02:45:04,200
Speaker 19: the in the healthcare system, and recently learning about what

2782
02:45:04,280 --> 02:45:09,080
Speaker 19: I'm calling the cancer industrial complex. I wanted to know

2783
02:45:10,240 --> 02:45:15,040
Speaker 19: how does one go about choosing a good physician, a

2784
02:45:15,120 --> 02:45:19,160
Speaker 19: good primary medical care person? And how would you choose

2785
02:45:19,240 --> 02:45:24,280
Speaker 19: one doctor a you know, given well there are some

2786
02:45:24,440 --> 02:45:29,840
Speaker 19: insurance constraints, like you know, Medicare stuff like that. Forgive

2787
02:45:29,840 --> 02:45:32,360
Speaker 19: me for my two questions.

2788
02:45:32,520 --> 02:45:33,000
Speaker 6: Is one.

2789
02:45:35,080 --> 02:45:40,080
Speaker 19: Helping heal or reversing osteo arthritis in the knee? And

2790
02:45:40,400 --> 02:45:45,920
Speaker 19: how does one go about choosing a good primary healthcare practitioner,

2791
02:45:46,080 --> 02:45:49,879
Speaker 19: especially you know, I'm kind of like scared of doctors.

2792
02:45:49,959 --> 02:45:55,879
Speaker 11: Now almost, okay, thank you for calling number one. Let's

2793
02:45:55,920 --> 02:45:59,840
Speaker 11: go straight into osteoarthritis of the needs that is it

2794
02:46:00,000 --> 02:46:04,800
Speaker 11: extraordinarily common. We celebrate you for reaching the age of seventy.

2795
02:46:05,240 --> 02:46:08,680
Speaker 11: We want the quality of life to manifest in your life.

2796
02:46:09,280 --> 02:46:12,400
Speaker 11: So number one, you need to be doing strengthening and

2797
02:46:12,560 --> 02:46:18,720
Speaker 11: flexibility exercises every single day, so off your arthritis of

2798
02:46:18,840 --> 02:46:23,080
Speaker 11: the knee. Exercises are going to focus on your quads,

2799
02:46:23,280 --> 02:46:26,640
Speaker 11: your hamstrings, and your gluts. If you can improve the

2800
02:46:26,760 --> 02:46:32,520
Speaker 11: flexibility with low impact moves, then you're going to have

2801
02:46:32,800 --> 02:46:37,879
Speaker 11: more gentle movement, You're going to be pain free, You're

2802
02:46:37,920 --> 02:46:42,000
Speaker 11: going to reduce the stiffening and you're going to build

2803
02:46:42,080 --> 02:46:45,520
Speaker 11: support for your joints, So there are a number of

2804
02:46:45,640 --> 02:46:49,680
Speaker 11: strengthening exercises you can google that. You can also do

2805
02:46:50,000 --> 02:46:55,800
Speaker 11: low impact aerobic exercises that support you. Water aerobics is

2806
02:46:55,879 --> 02:47:00,880
Speaker 11: something that my aunt in law has recently engaged. She's

2807
02:47:00,959 --> 02:47:05,200
Speaker 11: in her early seventies and she suffers from weight, she

2808
02:47:05,320 --> 02:47:10,480
Speaker 11: suffers from sleep apnea, she has high blood pressure. But

2809
02:47:10,640 --> 02:47:13,520
Speaker 11: she gets in that water at the YMCA for free

2810
02:47:14,080 --> 02:47:17,240
Speaker 11: three times a week and it's making a tremendous impact

2811
02:47:17,600 --> 02:47:20,680
Speaker 11: in her life. You know, when you see your daughter

2812
02:47:20,959 --> 02:47:23,600
Speaker 11: your doctor, you want to make sure that you're reporting

2813
02:47:23,680 --> 02:47:27,880
Speaker 11: to them exactly what your symptoms are. You also want

2814
02:47:27,959 --> 02:47:33,000
Speaker 11: to consult a physical therapist. Physical therapists can be immensely

2815
02:47:33,280 --> 02:47:37,400
Speaker 11: useful in helping you to devise a program that you're

2816
02:47:37,440 --> 02:47:40,040
Speaker 11: going to follow, and then you follow up with them

2817
02:47:40,400 --> 02:47:44,720
Speaker 11: and you progress over. Every three months, you can modify

2818
02:47:45,160 --> 02:47:49,600
Speaker 11: what your exercise regimen is and strengthen yourself even further

2819
02:47:50,040 --> 02:47:54,080
Speaker 11: so that you're preventing the development of osteoporosis. You should

2820
02:47:54,080 --> 02:47:59,120
Speaker 11: have a bone scan done regularly to survey for osteoporosis.

2821
02:47:59,320 --> 02:48:03,560
Speaker 11: Now number two, I'm going to have to develop more

2822
02:48:03,600 --> 02:48:06,960
Speaker 11: of a Rolodex for our listenership, because you guys are

2823
02:48:07,080 --> 02:48:13,440
Speaker 11: so investigative and so desiring of proper medical doctors. I'll

2824
02:48:13,480 --> 02:48:17,240
Speaker 11: tell you one thing. I ran a solo practice in

2825
02:48:17,720 --> 02:48:21,520
Speaker 11: Bergen County of New Jersey, and I ran that solo

2826
02:48:21,640 --> 02:48:25,600
Speaker 11: practice up until the year twenty fourteen. In the year

2827
02:48:25,640 --> 02:48:29,160
Speaker 11: twenty fourteen, a number of horrible things happened in America

2828
02:48:29,640 --> 02:48:34,720
Speaker 11: the electronic medical record. Okay, that alone drove the majority

2829
02:48:35,280 --> 02:48:38,560
Speaker 11: of black and brown doctors out of business because there

2830
02:48:38,640 --> 02:48:42,800
Speaker 11: was an upfront cost of five figures and doctors always

2831
02:48:42,800 --> 02:48:45,080
Speaker 11: get paid on the back end. See when you come

2832
02:48:45,160 --> 02:48:49,320
Speaker 11: with your copay and then we submit a claim to

2833
02:48:49,480 --> 02:48:53,600
Speaker 11: your insurance company, we are begging for some reimbursement of

2834
02:48:53,680 --> 02:48:57,560
Speaker 11: money we've already spent. So the idea of a five

2835
02:48:57,720 --> 02:49:02,040
Speaker 11: figure upfront costs drove out of business. You have now

2836
02:49:02,360 --> 02:49:07,040
Speaker 11: MedStar and other conglomerates that have taken over hospital after

2837
02:49:07,200 --> 02:49:10,880
Speaker 11: hospital after hospital. I'm not sure who the conglomerate is

2838
02:49:11,000 --> 02:49:14,160
Speaker 11: in Michigan, but I just told you a story of

2839
02:49:14,240 --> 02:49:20,199
Speaker 11: a conglomerate in Northwest Indiana, Franciscan hospital that literally screwed

2840
02:49:20,280 --> 02:49:23,240
Speaker 11: over the black woman. That baby could have died in

2841
02:49:23,360 --> 02:49:25,600
Speaker 11: the car. That baby could have been choked by his

2842
02:49:25,720 --> 02:49:28,880
Speaker 11: own umbilical cord. She could have bled to death. And

2843
02:49:29,000 --> 02:49:31,520
Speaker 11: truly when she showed up at the hospital having had

2844
02:49:31,560 --> 02:49:37,119
Speaker 11: her third baby in the car after subpar care from

2845
02:49:37,200 --> 02:49:41,480
Speaker 11: Franciscan hospital, and when she showed up, she was hemorrhaging.

2846
02:49:42,120 --> 02:49:44,879
Speaker 11: Hemorrhage is the number one cause of death for black women,

2847
02:49:45,480 --> 02:49:47,600
Speaker 11: so they put her at risk for that. So you're

2848
02:49:47,720 --> 02:49:49,560
Speaker 11: absolutely right to be hesitant.

2849
02:49:49,840 --> 02:49:50,120
Speaker 16: Okay.

2850
02:49:50,840 --> 02:49:55,320
Speaker 11: When the conglomerates took over, they have a conglomerate philosophy,

2851
02:49:55,760 --> 02:50:00,200
Speaker 11: so that's now indoctrinated onto all the doctors. Many your

2852
02:50:00,280 --> 02:50:02,959
Speaker 11: best doctor doctor to be thought right, they're.

2853
02:50:02,800 --> 02:50:05,160
Speaker 16: Gonna be concierge doctors. You got to pay for them,

2854
02:50:05,680 --> 02:50:06,120
Speaker 16: right hold, I.

2855
02:50:06,160 --> 02:50:07,720
Speaker 1: Thought right there, and Leon, if you ever follow up,

2856
02:50:07,720 --> 02:50:09,200
Speaker 1: I'll let you do that after because we gotta take

2857
02:50:09,200 --> 02:50:11,560
Speaker 1: a break. We're running late the twenty two minutes away

2858
02:50:11,600 --> 02:50:13,800
Speaker 1: from the top day Family. Our guest there is doctor A.

2859
02:50:13,959 --> 02:50:16,560
Speaker 1: She's a natural pathic doctor, also holistic doctor. You'd like

2860
02:50:16,640 --> 02:50:18,840
Speaker 1: to speak to her eight hundred four or five zero

2861
02:50:19,040 --> 02:50:21,200
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll try to get all

2862
02:50:21,280 --> 02:50:23,320
Speaker 1: your calls next see family. Thanks for staying with us

2863
02:50:23,360 --> 02:50:25,800
Speaker 1: on this Wednesday morning with our guest doctor A doctor.

2864
02:50:25,840 --> 02:50:29,080
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, it's a naturopathic doctors also holistic doctors. Well,

2865
02:50:29,400 --> 02:50:32,800
Speaker 1: sister Leone in Michigan, can you make that follow up

2866
02:50:32,840 --> 02:50:34,480
Speaker 1: real quick because you still got a bunch of folks

2867
02:50:34,520 --> 02:50:35,600
Speaker 1: got questions for doctor A.

2868
02:50:36,840 --> 02:50:38,640
Speaker 19: No, well, you know, I really didn't have a follow

2869
02:50:38,720 --> 02:50:41,000
Speaker 19: up except just just to thank that their doctor for

2870
02:50:41,160 --> 02:50:45,200
Speaker 19: all she everything she's done, everything she's doing to help

2871
02:50:45,240 --> 02:50:47,560
Speaker 19: produce justice on this planet. Thank you for being who

2872
02:50:47,640 --> 02:50:48,520
Speaker 19: you are, doctor A.

2873
02:50:50,000 --> 02:50:53,960
Speaker 11: Thank you so immensely, thank you for that acknowledgment and

2874
02:50:54,080 --> 02:50:57,320
Speaker 11: take you that moment. I appreciate you and right back

2875
02:50:57,360 --> 02:50:57,640
Speaker 11: at you.

2876
02:50:59,000 --> 02:51:02,160
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Leon. Let's go to Florida. Robert's

2877
02:51:02,160 --> 02:51:03,959
Speaker 1: waiting versus online one Grand Rising.

2878
02:51:04,080 --> 02:51:07,400
Speaker 10: Robert, your question for a doctor A, Yes, good morning,

2879
02:51:07,680 --> 02:51:08,040
Speaker 10: doctor A.

2880
02:51:08,600 --> 02:51:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2881
02:51:08,879 --> 02:51:14,640
Speaker 10: I have a mental issue. It's anxiety induced diarrhea. When

2882
02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:16,960
Speaker 10: I have I have an appointment to be someplace at

2883
02:51:16,959 --> 02:51:19,680
Speaker 10: a certain time and sometime someone's coming to pick me up,

2884
02:51:20,560 --> 02:51:22,960
Speaker 10: this anxiety takes over and I have to run to

2885
02:51:23,000 --> 02:51:25,640
Speaker 10: the bathroom like two or three times for number two

2886
02:51:26,240 --> 02:51:30,959
Speaker 10: and it's in my mind. It's mentally, it's anxiety induced.

2887
02:51:31,680 --> 02:51:33,960
Speaker 10: Can you give me some kind of instructions and something

2888
02:51:34,000 --> 02:51:37,320
Speaker 10: that I can try to take other than pills or whatnot,

2889
02:51:37,400 --> 02:51:39,439
Speaker 10: that I can try to deal with my mental anxiety

2890
02:51:39,760 --> 02:51:41,360
Speaker 10: that induces diarrhea.

2891
02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:45,520
Speaker 11: Please, first of all, I want to thank you for calling.

2892
02:51:45,720 --> 02:51:49,480
Speaker 11: I want to thank you for your transparency, your courage,

2893
02:51:50,040 --> 02:51:54,720
Speaker 11: and you're going to experience healing just through that. You

2894
02:51:54,959 --> 02:51:59,440
Speaker 11: already have the right mindset to be liberated from this symptom.

2895
02:52:00,000 --> 02:52:02,280
Speaker 16: Okay, so some of the things you can do for

2896
02:52:02,440 --> 02:52:03,520
Speaker 16: immediate relief.

2897
02:52:04,200 --> 02:52:06,320
Speaker 11: Number One, your breathing matters.

2898
02:52:07,400 --> 02:52:08,760
Speaker 16: You have no idea.

2899
02:52:08,959 --> 02:52:12,840
Speaker 11: The power you're breathing has to reset the cells of

2900
02:52:12,959 --> 02:52:17,560
Speaker 11: your body. Practice deep abdominal breathing, and you may have

2901
02:52:17,680 --> 02:52:20,640
Speaker 11: to do this outside of the emergency setting. Do not

2902
02:52:20,920 --> 02:52:26,040
Speaker 11: wait until you're in an anxiety provoking situation, having the

2903
02:52:26,480 --> 02:52:31,400
Speaker 11: onset of diarrhea under a normal circumstance, when you're bored,

2904
02:52:31,560 --> 02:52:35,120
Speaker 11: when you're doing nothing. I want you to begin to

2905
02:52:35,320 --> 02:52:38,600
Speaker 11: practice so that you can become a black belt expert

2906
02:52:39,000 --> 02:52:43,879
Speaker 11: at breathing. Learn how to breathe from your abdomen, deep

2907
02:52:44,080 --> 02:52:47,760
Speaker 11: in your abdomen, deep in your belly to calm your

2908
02:52:47,879 --> 02:52:52,360
Speaker 11: nervous system. You can actually reset your nervous system through

2909
02:52:52,400 --> 02:52:56,120
Speaker 11: your breathing. You want to focus on something else at

2910
02:52:56,160 --> 02:52:59,640
Speaker 11: the time that you're anxious. To break the anxiety gut

2911
02:52:59,760 --> 02:53:04,680
Speaker 11: side is actually a cycle that feeds and multiplies. Focus

2912
02:53:04,800 --> 02:53:08,120
Speaker 11: your mind the power of the mind. Learn to meditate,

2913
02:53:08,640 --> 02:53:13,320
Speaker 11: practice guided meditation so that you're doing that outside of

2914
02:53:13,440 --> 02:53:17,160
Speaker 11: the emergency circumstance, and then you can apply it during

2915
02:53:17,240 --> 02:53:22,480
Speaker 11: the emergency circumstance. A short walk can also help your

2916
02:53:22,600 --> 02:53:26,600
Speaker 11: body to calm the stress and to release chemicals in

2917
02:53:26,680 --> 02:53:31,520
Speaker 11: your body called endorphins. Hydration can matter if you sip

2918
02:53:31,720 --> 02:53:37,440
Speaker 11: water and you consider electrolyte drinks like Gatorade if you're

2919
02:53:37,520 --> 02:53:40,800
Speaker 11: losing fluids. If you are losing a large amount of

2920
02:53:40,879 --> 02:53:46,880
Speaker 11: fluid through the diarrhea, fluid replacement becomes important long term prevention,

2921
02:53:47,160 --> 02:53:50,320
Speaker 11: you want to do stress management. As I mentioned earlier.

2922
02:53:50,840 --> 02:53:54,640
Speaker 11: The second thing that you can do to really monitor

2923
02:53:54,800 --> 02:53:59,560
Speaker 11: and note your progress so that you are encouraging yourself

2924
02:53:59,760 --> 02:54:04,560
Speaker 11: is to journal. Journal how you at point a say

2925
02:54:04,680 --> 02:54:10,680
Speaker 11: starting today December the tenth day in twenty twenty five,

2926
02:54:11,520 --> 02:54:15,879
Speaker 11: how you manage this symptom, what provokes or triggers the symptom,

2927
02:54:16,680 --> 02:54:18,920
Speaker 11: and then go all the way to June of twenty

2928
02:54:19,120 --> 02:54:21,360
Speaker 11: twenty six, and we're going to watch how you do

2929
02:54:21,600 --> 02:54:25,920
Speaker 11: better and better and better at preventing the triggers and

2930
02:54:26,040 --> 02:54:30,160
Speaker 11: then preventing the reaction from the triggers. You want to

2931
02:54:30,240 --> 02:54:34,560
Speaker 11: reduce your caffeine intake, your alcohol intake, your intake of

2932
02:54:34,680 --> 02:54:38,840
Speaker 11: spicy and fatty foods and carbonated beverages. You want to

2933
02:54:38,959 --> 02:54:44,840
Speaker 11: eat simple carbohydrates like plain rice, pasta, and toast. These

2934
02:54:44,920 --> 02:54:48,280
Speaker 11: are things that are going to hold in your digestive track.

2935
02:54:48,680 --> 02:54:53,520
Speaker 11: An earlier caler mentioned oatmeal that that promotes good gut health,

2936
02:54:53,879 --> 02:54:57,760
Speaker 11: as well as taking probiotics regularly so that your intestines

2937
02:54:57,760 --> 02:55:01,360
Speaker 11: are healthy and you have to healthy formation of healthy

2938
02:55:01,520 --> 02:55:05,840
Speaker 11: stool so that you're less likely to evacuate upon the

2939
02:55:05,920 --> 02:55:09,160
Speaker 11: trigger of anxiety. All of these things are going to

2940
02:55:09,280 --> 02:55:14,760
Speaker 11: help to reduce this anxiety triggered diarrhea. Your gut brains

2941
02:55:14,920 --> 02:55:19,080
Speaker 11: are directly connected and there is a fight or flight

2942
02:55:19,280 --> 02:55:23,160
Speaker 11: response that's being triggered. So a mental health therapist is

2943
02:55:23,200 --> 02:55:27,720
Speaker 11: another important tool to be able to directly address why

2944
02:55:27,760 --> 02:55:31,360
Speaker 11: am I having a fight or flight response? Why am

2945
02:55:31,440 --> 02:55:36,080
Speaker 11: I locked into this saga? Not only how I can

2946
02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:41,080
Speaker 11: nutritionally improve the health of my intestines. But the mental

2947
02:55:41,120 --> 02:55:45,440
Speaker 11: health therapists can help you rewire your brain so that

2948
02:55:45,600 --> 02:55:49,640
Speaker 11: you don't have anxiety period and you definitely are not

2949
02:55:49,800 --> 02:55:54,400
Speaker 11: being triggered to diarrhea from that motivation. Thank you for calling.

2950
02:55:54,760 --> 02:55:59,800
Speaker 10: Okay, I've seen two medical doctors and bother them have

2951
02:56:00,040 --> 02:56:04,280
Speaker 10: I have prescribed some pills called search a Line, and

2952
02:56:06,360 --> 02:56:08,000
Speaker 10: it's difficult for me they take the search a Line

2953
02:56:08,480 --> 02:56:12,440
Speaker 10: pills because of the after effects. There's a long list

2954
02:56:12,520 --> 02:56:16,240
Speaker 10: of after effects that are very, very negative. I'm a

2955
02:56:16,280 --> 02:56:19,400
Speaker 10: little praying oid and taking these pills. So I'd rather,

2956
02:56:19,840 --> 02:56:22,000
Speaker 10: you know, take your advice and do it in the

2957
02:56:22,080 --> 02:56:25,440
Speaker 10: manner in which you've told me so that what should

2958
02:56:25,440 --> 02:56:26,880
Speaker 10: be helpful. I really appreciate it.

2959
02:56:27,320 --> 02:56:32,360
Speaker 11: I have prescribed searchal Lane to hundreds of patients. Okay,

2960
02:56:32,760 --> 02:56:37,560
Speaker 11: so it is a well studied medication. But like any prescription,

2961
02:56:37,800 --> 02:56:42,680
Speaker 11: there's a lock and key. How does this prescription drug

2962
02:56:43,480 --> 02:56:48,600
Speaker 11: fit the chemistry of said person's body. So always, as

2963
02:56:48,640 --> 02:56:54,400
Speaker 11: a practitioner on both sides western and Eastern and afrocentric medicine,

2964
02:56:54,879 --> 02:56:59,040
Speaker 11: I holistically look at each of every individual. I follow

2965
02:56:59,120 --> 02:56:59,959
Speaker 11: people long term.

2966
02:57:00,320 --> 02:57:01,640
Speaker 16: I don't want to be a wham bam.

2967
02:57:01,760 --> 02:57:05,640
Speaker 11: Thank you ma'am doctor, I specifically went into solo practice

2968
02:57:06,000 --> 02:57:11,360
Speaker 11: to form relationships. So with something like anxiety, you need

2969
02:57:11,480 --> 02:57:16,720
Speaker 11: a relationship with a provider. This provider, their relationship with

2970
02:57:16,840 --> 02:57:20,440
Speaker 11: you grows over time. They are watching what works and

2971
02:57:20,560 --> 02:57:24,080
Speaker 11: what doesn't work for you as a human being. Nobody

2972
02:57:24,120 --> 02:57:28,280
Speaker 11: else on earth has your fingerprint, so I could care

2973
02:57:28,400 --> 02:57:31,680
Speaker 11: less what the book says about circle Lane.

2974
02:57:31,760 --> 02:57:34,000
Speaker 16: The bottom line is it's not working for you.

2975
02:57:34,920 --> 02:57:36,840
Speaker 11: So there may be a different medication.

2976
02:57:38,200 --> 02:57:40,600
Speaker 1: Rob I'm sorry, you got to let you go. We've

2977
02:57:40,600 --> 02:57:42,560
Speaker 1: got some more folks you're trying to get on. Kevin.

2978
02:57:42,640 --> 02:57:46,240
Speaker 1: Let's move on this because Roberts got enough. I'm sorry

2979
02:57:46,320 --> 02:57:48,400
Speaker 1: to do it that way. Folks got to understand that

2980
02:57:48,800 --> 02:57:50,560
Speaker 1: I know you've got issues. You can and I tell

2981
02:57:50,600 --> 02:57:52,360
Speaker 1: you call and they wait. There's a whole bunch of

2982
02:57:52,400 --> 02:57:54,920
Speaker 1: folks whoait trying to get at you, doctor. They wait

2983
02:57:54,959 --> 02:57:56,400
Speaker 1: till the last minute, man, and let me move on.

2984
02:57:56,640 --> 02:57:59,800
Speaker 1: Quiban is a calling from northeast. DC's got a question

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Speaker 1: for He's on line for brother, your question for doctor A.

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Speaker 14: Grand rising brother question called and doctor A a question

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Speaker 14: about prostate cancer. Any intermediate status that has not grown

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Speaker 14: outside of the prostate definitely high PSA scores, UH with

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Speaker 14: already had biopsies and all that. What do you have

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Speaker 14: homopathically that could help with the option against surgeries and radiation.

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Speaker 11: First of all, thank you for calling. Thank you for

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Speaker 11: your courage and your transparency. We cannot talk enough about

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Speaker 11: prostate cancer. As an OBG y N board certified in America,

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Speaker 11: my hero, now deceased, was a Jamaican black man who

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Speaker 11: was extraor ordinary as a gynecologic surgeon. He was one

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Speaker 11: of the top robotic surgeons on the globe. However, he

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Speaker 11: lost his life to prostate cancer, which means he cared

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Speaker 11: more about the community than about his own self. And

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Speaker 11: that's the case for many physicians. So I'm happy to

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Speaker 11: talk about prostate cancer for our national audience. Active surveillance

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Speaker 11: or monitoring, curative options like surgery or radiation, and newer

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Speaker 11: focal therapies like HIFU cryotherapy they target the tumor. All

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Speaker 11: of these things are aimed at eliminating the cancer or

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Speaker 11: managing the slow growing tumors that the caller is talking about.

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Speaker 11: You have to specifically have a team that knows about

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Speaker 11: your personal health. Like Carl said, we don't even have

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Speaker 11: the time in this show to go into any one

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Speaker 11: individual's detailed health the way a doctor needs to do

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Speaker 11: in the office. They're doing a physical exam, They're getting

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Speaker 11: into detail about your health, your lifestyle, your family history, etc.

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Speaker 11: So there are a number of common treatment approaches. Active surveillance,

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Speaker 11: which is what it sounds like the caller is doing.

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Speaker 11: For low risk cancers. This can involve close monitoring of

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Speaker 11: your PSA tests, digital rectal exams and biopsies, delaying treatments

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Speaker 11: and signs of progress, and avoiding the treatment side effects. Okay,

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Speaker 11: other people need surgery, other people need radiation, other people

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Speaker 11: need hormone therapy. But yes, there are holistic things you

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Speaker 11: can do.

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Speaker 16: I've talked about it on several other shows.

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Speaker 11: What are the things that you can do? Diet altering.

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Speaker 11: You've got to get that omega three fatty acid into

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Speaker 11: your diet. You've got to drink alkaline water. You've got

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Speaker 11: to begin to fortify with a number of basic things

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Speaker 11: that are supplementation. This supplementation things that you can do,

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Speaker 11: such as making sure you're taking a multi vitamin, making

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Speaker 11: sure you're taking magnesium, making sure you're taking potassium. These

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Speaker 11: are some of the things that are going to reduce

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Speaker 11: the likelihood that the PSA level rises. You're already being monitored.

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Speaker 11: It's extremely important that you stay in a monitoring system.

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Speaker 11: So all of these things are my basic suggestions. Focus

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Speaker 11: on your overall lifestyle well being, your nutrition and your

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Speaker 11: mind body practices. Make sure that your diet is rich

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Speaker 11: in fruits and vegetables, and that you're reducing stress. Carl,

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Speaker 11: recognizing that we literally are down to minutes we may

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Speaker 11: want to do instead of two consecutive hours, realizing our

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Speaker 11: listenership is Johnny, come lately, do an hour in the morning,

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Speaker 11: come back, and maybe do an hour the following day

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Speaker 11: so that callers are alerted doctor A is back. Wake up.

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Speaker 11: Because last time I was here was September. We had

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Speaker 11: several months of lag. So we want to get these

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Speaker 11: callers in and we we're going to do our best,

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Speaker 11: but we're out of time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're right right out of time. And it's

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Speaker 1: still a bunch of folks got questions. You know, if

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Speaker 1: folks just you know, check out on Facebook and I

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Speaker 1: post on there who's coming on? And the doctor's coming on?

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Speaker 1: Don't wait till the last minute. And I got a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of tweets questions, A bunch of tweet questions

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Speaker 1: for you real quickly, probably a yes or no answer

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Speaker 1: if you can tell me this because this is a

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Speaker 1: couple of tweets are asking about the increasing dementia all timers.

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Speaker 1: Is that caused by the people who took the jab?

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Speaker 4: By people who.

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Speaker 11: Took what the jab?

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Speaker 1: The show?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Okay, the jackab So the jury is still out on

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Speaker 11: the JAB. The problem with the JAB is that.

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Speaker 16: They're still jabbing.

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Speaker 11: There are still boosters being rendered to select bodies of people,

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Speaker 11: like immunal compromising elders. That original vaccine dose we know

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Speaker 11: for a fact caused clotting disorders, autoimmune disorders to go

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Speaker 11: ape shit in the black community. Okay, so definitely negative

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Speaker 11: effects were there. Alzheimer's dementia is something that doesn't pop

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Speaker 11: up in two seconds. It evolves over a progression of time.

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Speaker 11: A lot of people have Alzheimer's dementia and are undiagnosed.

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Speaker 11: We're just saying they're off, they're funny, they're weird. No,

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Speaker 11: so it's going to take years, Carl. We are nowhere

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Speaker 11: near close enough to be able to assess the long

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Speaker 11: term consequences of the JAB. We don't know yet.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's that's it, doctor A. That's it for

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Speaker 1: the class. I would ask you where to folks reach you,

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Speaker 1: whether they have to wait till you come back and

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Speaker 1: next time.

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Speaker 11: All right, that's correct, that's correct. You have to wait

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Speaker 11: until I come back next time. But you can find

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Speaker 11: my community on Facebook, doctor A. Frey A Emerson A

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Speaker 11: F R I Y E A M E R s

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Speaker 11: O N. I'm on Facebook as a community Facebook page.

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Speaker 11: Join there and ask questions there and join me next

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Speaker 11: time on the show.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks doctor A. Running late classes, this Smiths family,

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Speaker 1: stay strong, stay positive, please please stay healthy. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in Baltimore on

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Speaker 1: ten ten WLB. I in the DMV on fourteen fifty

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Speaker 1: WOL