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Speaker 2: It sounded on WGN Radio Harry Kerry, of course, on

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Speaker 2: and the epic what is known as the Ryan Samberg

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Speaker 2: Game June twenty third of nineteen eighty four, as the Cubs,

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Speaker 2: yesterday passing away that announcement from the Chicago Cubs at

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Speaker 2: It would certainly be a fair question to ask why

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Speaker 2: Colt's camp wrapping up just about thirty minutes ago. Jonathan

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Speaker 2: And then Bernard Ryman, who owes me seven percent. Bernard Ryman,

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Speaker 5: Jonathan is a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: How I'm doing well today? How about to sell you

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Speaker 2: I can't complain, But I'm not the one that's out

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Speaker 3: They are very similar, and I don't think people realize,

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Speaker 2: This is the most and Jonathan Taylor, you know I've

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Speaker 3: I'd like to think that I'm always like this, But

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Speaker 2: Do you want to stick around.

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Speaker 3: So you might have to talk to coach psych and

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Speaker 6: We got meetings now.

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Speaker 5: I want to know this.

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Speaker 6: Go this year.

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Speaker 2: Somebody asked me this question, Jonathan Taylor, so I'll ask

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Speaker 3: Who, oh, definitely, definitely Quintin Nelson is always especially with

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, our guest, All right, let's get to this

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Speaker 2: before we let you get back into meetings, Jonathan, in

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Speaker 2: terms of you personally, where you are right now in

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Speaker 2: terms of just kind of getting the feel again for

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Speaker 2: the speed of the season, and I guess if you will,

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Speaker 2: what things do you still feel like you need to

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Speaker 2: work on or you need to perfect before we get

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Speaker 2: into week one?

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Speaker 3: Definitely being efficient. There's never a time where even if

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Speaker 3: things break down with the blocking scheme up front, can

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Speaker 3: you get back to the line of scrimmage. Can you

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Speaker 3: turn a no gain or a negative gain into a

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Speaker 3: one to two yard game? Is at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, continuant to move the sticks forward, continuing to

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Speaker 3: be able to move the change is something that a

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Speaker 3: great running back is able to do with that helps

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Speaker 3: the offense. That helps the offense, especially when you get

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Speaker 3: towards third down. So it's not third and eleven, third

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Speaker 3: and ten. Now at the worst you may be working

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Speaker 3: with third and seven or third and six. So I

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Speaker 3: will say being able to work on that is definitely

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Speaker 3: something that I still want to make sure that I'm

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Speaker 3: pushing forward to start of the season.

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Speaker 2: By the way, November fifteenth, Wisconsin at Indiana, Kurtz Signetti,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna do it again? Is Indiana gonna stun Wisconsin here?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all,

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Speaker 3: not at all. Listen, Wisconsin, although we had to kind

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Speaker 3: of get our feet underneath us, that's all. That's nice

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Speaker 3: and cool. But now it's time for Wisconsin. They get

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Speaker 3: back to Wisconsin football, and I'm really looking forward to

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Speaker 3: those guys taking that next step forward this year.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan. It is always a pleasure, man. I appreciate the optimism,

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Speaker 2: the energy, the good vibes, the sunshine, all of it.

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Speaker 2: And obviously we don't need any more heat out at

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Speaker 2: Colts Camp. But mind your p's and q's with those

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Speaker 2: guys that are flying around making plays. But certainly look

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Speaker 2: forward to having you back on the program. And I

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Speaker 2: appreciate the time today well to let you get back

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Speaker 2: into your your position meetings here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, man, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor joining us on the program again. Big show

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Speaker 2: lined up for you today. Stephanie White going to join

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Speaker 2: a Stephen Holder as well as we roll along here

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday querying company on the fans. She joins

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Speaker 2: us now on the guest line, the head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Fever Coach.

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Speaker 6: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good?

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Speaker 1: How are you good?

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Speaker 5: Except for I feel like I'm in the dentists office

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Speaker 5: with that song.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that probably wasn't the best. You know, we couldn't

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Speaker 7: do Cheezburger in Paradise. We couldn't do Margaritaville.

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Speaker 5: Fenn's is good.

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Speaker 7: The first thing that came to my mind. I don't

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Speaker 7: know why.

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Speaker 2: That's all right, I mean, it is Tuesday instead of Monday,

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Speaker 2: but that's okay, that's right, Okay, So let's get to this,

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Speaker 2: and I promise I'm going to wait for the second

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Speaker 2: question before I ask for a health update. So I

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Speaker 2: want to get to simply this and that is just

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Speaker 2: the way that you guys are playing. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 2: you've got a little bit time here before you go

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Speaker 2: to Phoenix or you know, hosting Phoenix that's tomorrow night

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Speaker 2: by the way, Fever and Phoenix tomorrow night. But you've

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Speaker 2: won obviously too straight here and Chicago in Vegas. What

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Speaker 2: have you seen without Caitlyn on the floor that so

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Speaker 2: far that you do like that you think maybe things

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Speaker 2: arounding into form with obviously a major piece for you.

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Speaker 7: I like how we're sharing the ball, you know, I

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Speaker 7: think we're we're averaging like a like a seventy to

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Speaker 7: seventy five percent assist rate, which is I think what

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Speaker 7: we have to do to be successful. So we're sharing

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Speaker 7: the ball. We're getting lots of different players involved, so

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Speaker 7: production from a lot of different areas, which is important

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Speaker 7: for us having that balance. And what we're doing defensively,

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Speaker 7: you know, we we've get different looks without Caitlin on

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Speaker 7: the floor on the defensive end in terms of what

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Speaker 7: our coverages look like. We miss heared length certainly and

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Speaker 7: our ability to do some of our switches, but we've

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Speaker 7: got some speed and quickness when when Arion and Kelsey

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Speaker 7: are out there together, you know, and more than anything,

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Speaker 7: it's just it's continuing to continuing to be consistent on

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Speaker 7: on that end of the floor. And I think we've

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Speaker 7: we've we've grown into that now that we've we've got

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Speaker 7: bodies and we've been able to have some some continuity

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Speaker 7: and in terms of who is on the floor when you.

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Speaker 2: Think back to you know, the WNBA, obviously we see

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Speaker 2: now and I mean, gosh, I'm watching last night, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm watching I think it was New York and Dallas's

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Speaker 2: on and I'm watching it and Page Becker is such

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Speaker 2: a good player and New York. It's that to a

527
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Speaker 2: big lead, and you know, the league itself continues to grow. Coach,

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Speaker 2: And I'm curious, as a result of that, do you

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Speaker 2: have to plan against a more diverse style of plays?

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Speaker 2: In other words, do you see teams playing at different

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Speaker 2: styles that you have to prepare for more so than say,

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Speaker 2: even when you were a player.

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Speaker 7: Definitely more than when I was a player, and even

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Speaker 7: more so than when I was a coach in this

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Speaker 7: league the first time around. And you know, it used

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Speaker 7: to be you could you could say, hey, what are

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Speaker 7: their top three to four plays? Really hone in on that,

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Speaker 7: and that would be your scout. You know, heavy usage

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Speaker 7: plays three to four and that'd be it. Now, teams

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Speaker 7: are running so many different actions. Obviously the players are

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Speaker 7: better than they've ever been. There is little as they've

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Speaker 7: ever been. And so you know, now it's you're not

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Speaker 7: just talking about pick and roll defense. You're talking about

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Speaker 7: inverted pick and rolls. You're talking about dribblendfs, talking about rescreens,

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Speaker 7: step up screen, angled screens, like all the different things.

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Speaker 7: And that's just on ball screening defense and the different

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Speaker 7: ways that they play in the different reads that they have.

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Speaker 7: It's much more free flowing, much more difficult to scout,

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Speaker 7: much more nuance to what what teams are running, and

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Speaker 7: so it is much more challenging. And then certain certain

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Speaker 7: teams have have different ways that that they look. You know,

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Speaker 7: Dallas certainly looks a lot different than than Atlanta. You know,

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Speaker 7: Vegas certainly looks a lot different than the New York

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Speaker 7: and Phoenix looks a lot different. Last two teams that

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Speaker 7: we played in Vegas and Chicago.

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Speaker 2: What about Phoenix jumps out at you now as you

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Speaker 2: get set for this game tomorrow night, Obviously you're going

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Speaker 2: to see a familiar face into want to Bonner.

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Speaker 5: I guess is that awkward?

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Speaker 7: By the way, No, it's not awkward. I mean, look,

561
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Speaker 7: as professional sports, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You know,

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Speaker 7: I have a personal relationship with dB, So for me, uh,

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Speaker 7: I fine that she happy that that she's found a place.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've I think we've both kind of you know,

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Speaker 7: in terms of the situation we've we've been able to

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Speaker 7: move on in a positive way. She's been able to

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Speaker 7: move on in a positive way. So I'm happy for

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Speaker 7: her certainly seeing At. You know, At is what makes

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Speaker 7: any team that she's on a challenge, just the way

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Speaker 7: that she plays the game, her i Q, her ability

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Speaker 7: to play the point forward, get other players involved, you know,

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Speaker 7: her her defensive tenacity. But but you've got that coupled

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Speaker 7: with Sasu Saboli who is you know that Satu and

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Speaker 7: At two are the best four players you know in

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Speaker 7: the game. They make it a challenge called Leahkopper and

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Speaker 7: I think she's working back from injury, but I mean

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Speaker 7: she is as dangerous as ever. Trying to keep her

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Speaker 7: in front, you know, with certainly Olympians, they've got Multiplympians

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Speaker 7: on that team, so they create a challenge. Their size

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Speaker 7: will create some just for us as well.

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Speaker 2: When you look at Alyssa Thomas and trying to neutralize that,

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Speaker 2: Stephanie White, our guest, the head coach of the Fever,

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Speaker 2: do you find in a situation like that that it's

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Speaker 2: better to defend her neutralize a player by fronting them

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Speaker 2: and simply trying to deny them the ball, or by

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Speaker 2: then getting help side and you know, being on the

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Speaker 2: backside of it to limit once they do get the

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Speaker 2: ball where they can then operate.

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Speaker 7: Well, ah, he's going to have the ball in her

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Speaker 7: hands on the perimeter. And so for us, it's about

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Speaker 7: keeping her in front, not overhelping, so that she can

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Speaker 7: do what she does best. In terms of facilitating. You know,

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Speaker 7: we've got to be really, really disciplined how we play her.

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Speaker 7: We got a forcer to we got a force her

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Speaker 7: to hit tough shots. We got to make sure that

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Speaker 7: that we say really disapin make sure so so dynamic

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Speaker 7: is not just your scoring ability, which she's scoring it

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Speaker 7: at all time high, but it's for facilitating and she

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Speaker 7: is truly a point guard in a forward body.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess you're right, you know, that's

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Speaker 2: the thing. And that's another thing, coach. I think that

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Speaker 2: you know, when you look at a player that is

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Speaker 2: you know, and you're talking almost a double double WHENU

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Speaker 2: factor in the assists, right.

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Speaker 5: So, but the size itself, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know that we would have seen a player at

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Speaker 2: that size running that style twenty years ago. To me,

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Speaker 2: it just speaks to the evolution of the game. Am

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Speaker 2: I way romanticizing that?

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Speaker 7: No, not at all. I mean, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 6: It's one of those.

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Speaker 7: Things that the game's changed. You know, it's players have changed.

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Speaker 7: You know, she's she's used in a unique way. We

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Speaker 7: use there like that in Connecticut as well because that's

615
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Speaker 7: her skill set, it's what she does. And so yeah,

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Speaker 7: it makes it, it makes it challenging, but it does

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Speaker 7: show the growth of the game and the growth of players.

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Speaker 2: If you look at your schedule, Stephanie White, our guest,

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Speaker 2: you have, I believe you have a game every two

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Speaker 2: or three days until the seventeenth of August. So we're

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Speaker 2: looking at, you know, a little under three weeks from now,

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Speaker 2: you get a reprieve of nearly an entire at least

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Speaker 2: work week off. Is there any thought to just letting

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark use that time to then kind of the

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Speaker 2: slow acclamation back in for her, as opposed to just

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Speaker 2: throwing her into the mix once she is healthy again.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, certainly we'll have to have Caitlin go

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Speaker 7: through practices before we throw her out there into a

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Speaker 7: game again, you know, making sure that we're really taking

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Speaker 7: this slow. Oh. You know, last time she felt good,

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Speaker 7: so she got medical practice if any, and then thrown

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Speaker 7: out there into the game. You know, this time, we're

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Speaker 7: going to make sure that we get multiple practices. You know,

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Speaker 7: she gets through some for lack of a better term,

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Speaker 7: kind of benchmarks that we don't see any regression and

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Speaker 7: so so yeah, I mean it makes it tough because

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Speaker 7: we are playing every other day. We're playing every other day,

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Speaker 7: and then you know, we're traveling out west, and so

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Speaker 7: every time you travel there's inflammation that happens on airplanes,

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Speaker 7: rest recovery, time zone changes, all of those things that

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Speaker 7: affect your body as well as your mind.

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Speaker 2: What's the latest you can tell us with any sort

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Speaker 2: of definitive nature on her status or where things stand

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Speaker 2: or what the timeline would be.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's not really a lot that's definitive. You know.

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Speaker 7: I think the biggest thing is is we got to

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Speaker 7: make sure number one, from a rehab standpoint, that that

648
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Speaker 7: she's strong, that that she's comfortable, and then she's got

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Speaker 7: to start a conditioning regimen that that will allow her

650
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Speaker 7: to build endurance to make sure we don't have any

651
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 7: any setbacks there. And then we'll start movement patterns. You know,

652
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 7: all the lateral movement, all the movement was forced, you know,

653
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 7: all the contact that she takes. And then and then

654
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 7: after we get through those with no setbacks, we'll get

655
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 7: to practice and how it looks like to start to

656
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 7: get rhythm, timing, speed, balance all of that back and

657
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 7: make sure that she feels as close to one hundred

658
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 7: percent with that as possible before we throw back into games.

659
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: We were talking about Ryan Samberg. You were a Cardinals

660
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: fan growing up?

661
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: Is that right?

662
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 7: I was? Yes? I was now big Cardinals fan, big

663
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 7: Gouds and Smith's fan.

664
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to know how I guess I mean

665
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 2: where you grew up. And for those that don't know

666
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: you grew up obviously, you know Secre, Indiana, Right, That's

667
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: what's that like?

668
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: Just west of Lafayette? Is that right?

669
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 7: It's southwest it's north of Tara Ho. It's halfway between

670
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 7: the University Illinois and for New University in the state

671
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 7: of Indiana. So I'm like one mile on the state line.

672
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 6: Okay.

673
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: So for that reason, I guess I'm gonna guess it's

674
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: because of like just the radio signal of the Cardinals

675
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: back in the day, and maybe like a family relative

676
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: or something was a Cardinals fan.

677
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 5: But I want to know how it became a Cardinal fan.

678
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 7: You said, radio said, how old do you think I am?

679
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: No?

680
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: No, no, I said, radio signal of an older relative.

681
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: So in other words, like your grandfather became a Cardinal

682
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: fan by listening to km OX and then carried that on.

683
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know, listen, I'm old.

684
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 6: You're not.

685
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm old, you're not. I know that.

686
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 7: Really, where I grew up, we were it was kind

687
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 7: of split down the middle. It's like you were either

688
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 7: a Cardinals fan or you were a Cubs fan, and

689
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 7: that's that's kind of how it works. It was like

690
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 7: you're either a purdu fan or you were an Illinois fan.

691
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 7: So you're either a Bears fan or a Colts fan.

692
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 7: So it's kind of one of those things that that

693
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 7: at Chapol's Pacers that you kind of When I grew up,

694
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 7: it was like that, but I did. I used to

695
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 7: go to Cardinal games every summer when I as a kid.

696
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 7: My grandfather was a huge Cardinals fan. My grandfather was

697
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 7: a baseball guy. In fact, he played minor league baseball

698
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 7: in the Reds organization, but he was a Cardinal fan

699
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 7: growing up, and an in turn, we became Cardinal fans.

700
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 7: My whole family really is is extended family is are

701
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 7: Cardinal fans.

702
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Ozzie Smith was obviously prolific, the wizard, right.

703
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 2: I just wanted to the reason I asked it before

704
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: we let you go. You know, regardless of whatever team

705
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: you were a fan of, I just think Ryan Samberg

706
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: personified coach like everything that you would want out of

707
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: a player or a role model for young people during

708
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: his time, and just wanted to get your thoughts on

709
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: watching him, even as a rival so to speak, when

710
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 2: you were a kid.

711
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 7: Oh, I loved watching him, you know, those were those

712
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 7: were those uh, those rivalry days, certainly when with the

713
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 7: Cubs and Cardinals. But I think just just just as

714
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 7: you mentioned, not just how he played the game, but

715
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 7: the way he handled himself, his leadership, his consistency. You know,

716
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 7: a as a young as a young kid, none of

717
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 7: those things really the leadership and consistency and all that

718
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 7: didn't didn't really matter. I didn't really understand that. But

719
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 7: then the older I've gotten, and when you look at

720
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 7: the craft and especially baseball, the number of games that

721
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 7: they have, the hours that they're on the field every

722
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 7: single day honing their craft, the short off seasons right,

723
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 7: the preseasons, and the way that they have to approach

724
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 7: the game mentally as much as physically, and with the

725
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 7: consistency and elite mentality that he played, I just think

726
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 7: it was really incredible, and you know, such a loss

727
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 7: for the sports community obviously, and just one of the

728
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 7: greatest that ever played.

729
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: I always thought it'd be cool to play for the

730
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: Cubs back then because it was all day games and

731
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: you can still go out to dinner every night.

732
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 8: That's right, that's hard think about it, right.

733
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 5: I mean, Lights came in eighty eight.

734
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: Ryan Sabra get a home run in the first unofficial game,

735
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: it got rained out, and then they came back the

736
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: next night and played against Philadelphia tomorrow night. It will

737
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: be the fever in action taking on Phoenix. That is

738
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: a seven o'clock start at Gambridge Field House. Stephanie White,

739
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: the head coach, and again Stephanie, no Kaitlyn Clark tomorrow

740
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: or for at least at this time, any timeline of

741
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: the foreseeable future.

742
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 5: Correct, that's right, Okay.

743
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: Appreciate the time as always, coach, all right, thank you,

744
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: We shure the best of luck. Stephanie White joining us

745
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: on the program tomorrow night and again unlessa Thomas, like

746
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: I said, I mean a six to two a point

747
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: forward basically, and I know that that's you're operating on

748
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 2: the premter. It's not the same in any way, shape

749
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: or form. But you look at even you know, like

750
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: a Halliburton, I mean Halliburton is a is a point guard.

751
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: But the size in general, in relation to the rest

752
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: of the floor, that's what makes it so difficult, and

753
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: that is certainly a challenge for certain But that's the

754
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: big news there. With Kaitlyn Clark. Again, they have I

755
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: think it's five games between now and the seventeenth of

756
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: August and then they get a reprief. So it'll be

757
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: interesting to see. As she talked about need practice days,

758
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: we'll see how that all slots speaking of practice days,

759
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: busy one today for the colts. Stephen Holder will join

760
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: us about thirteen minutes from now, and it's kind of

761
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: a mash unit report from today. We'll get the latest

762
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: on that when we come back. Let's get to Stephen Older,

763
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: who joins us from I'm assuming no longer standing on

764
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: the side of the field in Westfield, because Stephen, my

765
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: understanding is it is now getting significantly warm outside.

766
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: Correct, it's a bit warm. Remind you of Florida? That, yeah,

767
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: or or Hell that's what I imagine. Okay, what I

768
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 4: imagine Hellfield? So like, I don't know, not been there,

769
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: thankfully I think, but.

770
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 5: I would think though, here's the thing, I would think.

771
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: That Hell is a dry heat, right, yeah, I mean

772
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: Arizona's a dry heat, but it still sucks, right, so sure.

773
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 5: Fair enough, fair enough. You know.

774
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: I had a buddy from Phoenix one time, though, I

775
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: said to him, I said, how in the world do

776
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: you live in one hundred and fifteen degree heat? And

777
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: I'll never forget he said, Look, you and I both

778
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: live in areas that can have stream weather conditions, but

779
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: none of them for me ever make it any slower

780
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: to go out to get my mail. I mean that's

781
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: a good point, Like you got to walk on ice,

782
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: it's a good point, right, I mean.

783
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 6: You're probably walking pretty fast to get the mail when

784
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 6: it's one hundred and fifteen.

785
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do a bare foota do not. Okay, Steven,

786
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 2: let's get to this from an injury standpoint. I mentioned

787
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Jones, I mentioned Michael Pittman Junior. What else happened

788
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: today out at camp and what is the latest in

789
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: terms of anybody that may miss time?

790
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'll just add for contact on the Jalen

791
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 6: Jones front. I mean we all saw it happen. He

792
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 6: was running down on an individual portion of practice to

793
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 6: do the one on one passing drills, and he was

794
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 6: trailing the receiver I forget who it was, and uh,

795
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 6: you know, sort of in a sprint on a deep

796
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 6: ball and he just pulled up lame and just went

797
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 6: down immediately and grabbed that hamstring. And you know, it

798
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 6: wasn't one of those where he just kind of like

799
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 6: tweaked it and you know, just walked off the field.

800
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 6: He went down hard and it looks you know, I

801
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 6: don't want to characterize it because I have no idea, right,

802
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 6: but it did not look like like a routine thing,

803
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 6: so I think there's concern there beyond that. I think

804
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 6: the other one that's of note is Juju Brents missed

805
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 6: practice today with a hamstring and his so you know,

806
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 6: that raises questions even beyond Ellen Jones because now you

807
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 6: have a possible depth issue at that position. I don't

808
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 6: know if Jujubin's situation is serious. He practiced yesterday, he

809
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 6: talked to reporters after practice. I saw him talk to him.

810
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 6: He seemed fine, and then today he wasn't out there,

811
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 6: So I don't know what to make of that. But

812
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 6: that was interesting and surprising, I guess. But if there's

813
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 6: an issue there with him that is remotely long term,

814
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 6: that's concern because now you're down two guys out of

815
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 6: maybe you're top five corners, and that's not great. At

816
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 6: a position where injuries are are high, they tend to

817
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 6: be higher. So anyway, I think that that's the other

818
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 6: one to mention.

819
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: Let's get then to battle number one, which we're gonna

820
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: check on each and every day. Quarterback Battle today. If

821
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: you had to, if this was one of those games

822
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: they have up on the video board Steven where it

823
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: shows like the you know section three in section four,

824
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: are you know cheer it on to see who's gonna

825
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: which dot's gonna win and they go back and forth,

826
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: back and forth. Is that what this quarterback battle is?

827
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: Or is it too early to say? If either one

828
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: of them has a lead, I would say.

829
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 6: They've been very even. I wouldn't call it back and forth.

830
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 6: In fact, it's weird when they when they've been good,

831
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 6: they've both had days I think, at the same time,

832
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 6: and then when they've had bad days, those days have

833
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 6: come at the same time. So I don't know if

834
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 6: you if you understand what I'm saying. But because of that,

835
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 6: from an optics perspective, it doesn't look like anyone's really

836
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 6: in a way because they're kind of they're kind of

837
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 6: neck and neck. At least in my perspective. I tend

838
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 6: to think for me, that means that that Andy Richardson

839
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 6: probably has an edge. I got to feel like Daniel

840
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 6: Jones has to come in and I think win the job.

841
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 6: That's the way I conceive this going, at least in

842
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 6: my head. I don't know what the colts Field and

843
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 6: I would say, if that's the standard, then that has

844
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 6: not happened so far.

845
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Steven, tell me if this makes sense. And you

846
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: might have to like kind of pause for a second

847
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: after I say it to absorb it because it's going

848
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: to sound weird. But I think I've simplified my thought

849
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: by saying this. If Daniel Jones is the starter week one,

850
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: it's likely it's not because Daniel Jones won the job.

851
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: It's because Anthony Richardson did not.

852
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 6: I that's that's what mentally true, because look, I think

853
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 6: right now, if we if Daniel Jones keeps performing at

854
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 6: the level he's performing at right now, it's not anything special. Okay,

855
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 6: is it being plucked? No, it isn't. But I but

856
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 6: I would say with him, I think what you have

857
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 6: is he's playing at an acceptable level. So is Daniel Jones,

858
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 6: right but nothing special Anthony Richardson, I think it's performing

859
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 6: at an acceptable level right now in practice.

860
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

861
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 6: The difference though, is he has the explosive ability both

862
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 6: with his legs and his big arm, and and that

863
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 6: I think, putically in my mind, that separates him a

864
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 6: little bit from Daniel Jones his version of ordinary. Does

865
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 6: that make sense?

866
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 5: It does? I think here's the thing. Let me, I guess.

867
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: A better way to say it is this, does Anthony

868
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: Richardson to you? Has he shown Steven Holder any more

869
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: consistency with the easy throws? We know he can make

870
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: the hard throws, it's the routine throws. Is he any

871
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: better with his accuracy?

872
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 6: I would say yes. I do think so. Yeah, And

873
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 6: I like that. I like that he is is more decisive.

874
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 6: I think I think a little more decisive. One of

875
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 6: the things he did last year and has done is

876
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 6: it maybe hold the ball a tick too long when

877
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 6: that first read maybe isn't readily available. You've got to

878
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 6: make snap decisions, and so he has gotten rid of

879
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 6: the ball. I think on time today, I thought he

880
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 6: was fantastic today in some spots. Now he was spotty

881
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 6: at the end of practice, but he had some really

882
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 6: good throws today that were contested throws on the sideline

883
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 6: outside the numbers. Not deep throws, but short and intermediate throws.

884
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 6: Those are sometimes the hardest throws. The deep throws. Those

885
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 6: tend to be all about timing, right, you know, receiver wins.

886
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 6: You give him a chance, he goes in and gets

887
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 6: the ball. They're beautiful throws, and we love the big

888
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 6: plays and all that right. But but where you really

889
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 6: make your money is is making the tough contested throws.

890
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 6: He's doing that, at least in practice right now, I think,

891
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 6: at a level that is greater than I've ever seen

892
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 6: him do it. And so if he's answering that question,

893
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 6: I think it was the biggest question. He also is

894
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 6: not turning it over as much, which is a huge,

895
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 6: I think point to make because last year I thought

896
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 6: the turnovers were his biggest problem.

897
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 8: He's mat then, he's a better player player to the

898
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 8: to this point in camp, Steven Older ESPN dot Com

899
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 8: is our guest the player in camp to this point

900
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 8: who has most helped himself.

901
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 5: Not named Bernard Ryman, by the way.

902
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, helped himself a lot. You know, the

903
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 6: guy that just keeps showing up. And I know, if

904
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 6: you're following the daily coverage, you've heard this name a lot,

905
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 6: but I'll repeat it justin Wally. I am thoroughly impressed

906
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 6: the rookie cornerback from Minnesota. This guy. Every day he

907
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 6: makes a play. I'm not joking every day and with

908
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 6: what I just outlined, with the injury situation at corner,

909
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 6: it's only going to strengthen the notion that he's an

910
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 6: opening day starter. Look, they'll have Kennymore at the nickel

911
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 6: corner and outside in the defense. But you know, generally

912
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 6: a nickel corner Shavarius Ward, and then there's that third

913
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 6: cornerback on the outside, the second outside cornerback. That's the

914
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 6: position that's up for grabs. Jalen Jones was the starter

915
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 6: there for seventeen games last season. He got hurt. Today.

916
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 6: We'll see how bad it is. But I think even

917
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 6: without the injury, Justin Wally is ahead of him right

918
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 6: now and he has earned it. I'm telling you. The

919
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 6: guy makes a play every day. Yesterday, I believe it

920
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 6: was yesterday. Yeah, he had a pass breakup against Tyler Warren.

921
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 6: Or it might have been Sunday. Their days run together.

922
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 6: They're all hot, that's all I know. He had a

923
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 6: pass breakup against Tyler Warren. That was just a brilliant play.

924
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 6: That guy, he has a real, real stud potential. I

925
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 6: think I'm exaggerating. He's been really good.

926
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 5: How big is he?

927
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: Because you know, like Juju Britz, I really like because

928
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: he's big, right, But then you get I go back

929
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: to like Tye Poole. You know, we've seen guys that

930
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: are smaller, but if they've got reaction time, it doesn't

931
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: matter how big is is Whely.

932
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 6: Not big at all, He's like five ten. And in fact,

933
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 6: it was the most puzzled thing to me because Chris

934
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 6: Ballard has made no bones about it. I mean, he

935
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 6: likes long cornerbacks. You see the guys that he has

936
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 6: drafted over the years. I mean, Juju Brent's being a

937
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 6: great example. It's the reason he wasn't even interested in

938
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 6: cleaning Kenny Moore waivers when he was available well eight

939
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 6: years ago or whatever that was, and his personnel staff

940
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 6: had to like beg him to make the waiver claim

941
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 6: that turned out okay. But you know, Kennymore is a

942
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 6: small guy. He's five to nine and and wasn't you know,

943
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 6: didn't have the the dimensions that Chris Paller looks for.

944
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 6: So I saw that here with with Justin Wallly, and

945
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 6: I was kind of surprised they would make the pick.

946
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 6: But they what they really like and what they what

947
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 6: they thought would help him overcome his size is his competitiveness.

948
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 6: He has an edge to him, man, I'm telling you.

949
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 6: And and at that position, you got to have an

950
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 6: Edgemnally and physically he's tough and he is competitive, and

951
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 6: there's there's a lot to like there. I really like

952
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 6: to pick so far Steven.

953
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: When you look at an NFL roster in general, over

954
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: your experience of watching teams being built, the position where

955
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: you can mask or hide a play that is not

956
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: up to par is where what is this of the

957
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: non specialty position, So I'm not talking punter, kicker, long snapper,

958
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: but of the everyday down positions, which one is the

959
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: one where if you had to pick one guy that

960
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: is like the least on your depth chart, you can

961
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: get away with it at that spot and it kind

962
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: of gets covered up.

963
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 6: So I think the one that historically has been true

964
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 6: as linebacker, and they may be find to do that

965
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 6: here frankly, because they haven't invested anything in that position.

966
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 6: So maybe there's truth to that. Maybe they adhere to

967
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 6: that philosophy in Indy, I guess depending on defense, sometimes

968
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 6: depending on what that players asked to do. Safety or

969
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 6: at least one of the safeties if you're playing if

970
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 6: you're playing a safety that's for example, in the box,

971
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 6: like the Colts used to do with Gus Bradley's position,

972
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 6: or Gus Bradley's defense. Sometimes you can mask that with

973
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 6: the strong safety that free. Steed's got to be able

974
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 6: to cover a lot of ground in a single high defense,

975
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 6: So that would not that would not be a choice.

976
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 6: But certainly some safeties and some defenses, and I think

977
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 6: linebackers that's the little ones. I'd say. The other one

978
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 6: would be maybe interior offensive line. But if you but

979
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 6: but with the emergence these these stud defensive tackles that

980
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 6: we see today, that's gotten harder and you can't hide

981
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 6: them anymore. And then one other thing I'd add is

982
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 6: that at linebacker, with the way some of these tight

983
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 6: ends have emerged and the matchups that you get put

984
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 6: in there, you can't hide them sometimes either. So you know,

985
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 6: at some point, everybody's gonna have to make a play.

986
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: Steven Holder, our guest ESPN dot com is where you

987
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: can read his work as he covers Colts camp and

988
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 2: gets you set for the regular season, obviously, and all

989
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: the way through the preseason. Steven, what about a player's

990
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: so far in this camp that has most hurt themselves?

991
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: And I don't mean from an injury standpoint, and I

992
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: don't mean at the quarterback spot, but somebody that you

993
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: look at and you just go, boy, opportunities there in

994
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: a platter.

995
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 5: And they have yet to reach out and grab it.

996
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 6: You No, I still come back to a d Mitchell

997
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 6: just the inconsistency for me, I just I don't know

998
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 6: how you trust him. Now. He's had a good couple

999
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 6: of days. I would say, yesterday and today. I thought

1000
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 6: he's bounced back and he needed it because he was dropping,

1001
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 6: damn there everything for the first week of camp. And

1002
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: I don't know if there was something going on with him,

1003
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 6: if he was just trying too hard, and maybe there was,

1004
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 6: you know, an issue there where he's just forcing things.

1005
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm not a psychologist, but I just

1006
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 6: I saw a guy who just could not be counted on,

1007
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 6: and I think for him. You know, this is a

1008
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 6: team of coaching staff that has been over backwards to

1009
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 6: tell us we still love this guy and he's still

1010
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 6: a guy that we believe in. They've done that repeatedly,

1011
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 6: and my argument has been he hasn't earned that, but

1012
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 6: they keep telling us that, right, and so at some

1013
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 6: point you have to actually give some evidence of what

1014
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 6: your coaches are saying is true. And he had not

1015
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 6: done that. Through the first week of camp. We'll see

1016
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 6: if he can keep this going in the last couple

1017
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 6: of days the bounce back that he's had, but but

1018
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 6: that remains. He had a good day.

1019
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 5: He had a good day today.

1020
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, I'd say, I'd say yes.

1021
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you about this guy. You know,

1022
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: each year I go all in on a guy, right,

1023
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: I go all in. Usually it's a guy I know

1024
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: nothing about. I just look at the roster and I

1025
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: go I like that guy.

1026
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 6: Okay, like the high school he went to, or well, of.

1027
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: Course, right Landon Parker's got hair like Jeff's McCoy and

1028
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: he's a rookie at the age of twenty five out

1029
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: of Troy. I'm all in on Landon Parker. Have you

1030
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: heard of land Parker. He's a wide receiver.

1031
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, a big expert on land Is.

1032
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 5: He still there? Do we know? If he's still there?

1033
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 5: He might have been released earlier today.

1034
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 6: I don't think so, not that I'm aware of, but

1035
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 6: I reserved the right to be wrong.

1036
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: A year ago, my guy was Derek I think his

1037
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: name was Derek Slifka something like that.

1038
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 6: I remember this. We had many conversations about this guy. Well, no,

1039
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 6: you had conversations and I just nodded.

1040
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: You know, Derek Slifegod. By the way, a little non

1041
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: fun fact future roommate of Landon Parker just so you know,

1042
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: right they're gonna be sharing a two bedroom somewhere in

1043
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: the UFL.

1044
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 6: It sounds like a play that, you know what, and

1045
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 6: they'll live happily ever after.

1046
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: I even went all in in the in the USFL,

1047
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: now the UFL or whatever it's called. I went all

1048
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: in on the Birmingham Stallions and now they're moving like

1049
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: I'm literally yesterday I had Jalen Jones on the show.

1050
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: He heard his hamstring. Alec Pierce on the show gets

1051
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: a boo boo blister. I mean, I'm a walking jinx Stephen.

1052
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, you're not driving right now,

1053
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: are you?

1054
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 6: I am? But you did get Bernard Raymond paid, so

1055
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 6: I gave you that one.

1056
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: Listen, I look, look, you gotta you gotta get Bernard.

1057
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: Ryman knew what he was saying, didn't he.

1058
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's no idiot, very savvy. I

1059
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 6: love it. That was. So when when a plan comes together.

1060
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: Should I get agent gets seven percent? Should I get

1061
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: three and a half percent? For those that are unfamiliar.

1062
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: Bernard Ryman on this radio show spoke out about how

1063
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: far away he was with the Colts on a contract

1064
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: agreement that went somewhat noteworthy from a national standpoint amongst

1065
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 2: football circles, and then people were like, what is Indianapolis doing?

1066
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: And then buy a boom. He gets one hundred million

1067
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: bucks three and a half percent. I should get right.

1068
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 6: I mean, you start there and then you negotiate from there.

1069
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 6: I'd say, but that's a good start.

1070
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: I'll take a watch. Don't guys do like running backs

1071
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: by lineman watches. I'll take a watch.

1072
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 6: I think I think that's fair. I think that's fair.

1073
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 6: You know. I would also add, just Claire, I do

1074
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 6: think just as much as you might have helped him,

1075
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 6: he he might also have been helped by the gargantuan

1076
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 6: contracts that other offensive linemen have signed in the last

1077
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 6: few weeks. But I mean that's just me saying that.

1078
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 5: Oh, you're right.

1079
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no doubt about the fact. As we

1080
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: talked about Steven kidding aside, the Colts kind of had

1081
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 2: to get it done because his tag, unless he got hurt,

1082
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: was only going to go up right.

1083
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 6: His price Yeah, No, he's gotten better every year. That's

1084
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 6: the thing about him, which is which is great, that's

1085
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 6: what you want. But what if he goes out there

1086
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 6: and he shuts down all these stud defensive ends. Well,

1087
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 6: if you're his agents, you're like, buddy, you know that

1088
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 6: contract we talked about last year. Yeah, forget that, right,

1089
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 6: that's exactly the conversation. So they were right to do

1090
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 6: it now. And they've done this with all their big

1091
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 6: offensive linemen. They did this with with Quinton Nelson, they

1092
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 6: did it with Ryan Kelly multiple times, they did it

1093
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 6: in Smith right, they signed all these guys going into

1094
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 6: the final year of their rookie deals. And that's how

1095
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 6: you do it it. Don't screw around when when you

1096
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 6: got a good thing. You know, I think I look

1097
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 6: at it as as team building. I look at it

1098
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 6: as problem solving. Right, your your goal, your job is

1099
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 6: to go out there and figure it out, figure things out,

1100
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 6: solve problems. Well, letting your your left tackle, who you love,

1101
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 6: get to free agency, that is creating a problem. So

1102
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 6: this was a problem solving move by the Colts to

1103
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 6: lock them up, and now they're there.

1104
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 5: Okay, Steven.

1105
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: In conclusion, give me a problem when it comes to

1106
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: the Colts that you are looking for a riddle, or

1107
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: I should say a riddle for the Colts that you're

1108
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: looking for the answer here in the next couple of days.

1109
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: We are looking for what storylines now through camp?

1110
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: Uh?

1111
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 6: I guess i'd say consistency at wide receiver. These guys

1112
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 6: are too good, I think, to be up and down

1113
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 6: the way they have been Pittman and down's been better

1114
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 6: the last couple of days. So I'm happy about that.

1115
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: Okay, groin injury today you say not significant at least, right,

1116
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1117
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 6: I don't think so.

1118
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 5: Okay, anyway, as you were on the receiver.

1119
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 6: So anyway, I just think, uh, way too uneven for

1120
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 6: the first week of camp, and these guys are too

1121
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 6: good for that, and they got to help the quarterback.

1122
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 6: So let's just see if they can continue that what

1123
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 6: they've done the last couple of days and and make

1124
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 6: what the first week was, or let me rephrase that,

1125
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 6: make the first week an aberration. Let's put it that way.

1126
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 6: The other thing, I guess, if you want a bonus

1127
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 6: one look next week or in fact a week from today.

1128
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 6: They're in Baltimore. Let's see how they look against Lamar Jackson,

1129
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 6: and let's see what kind of stress he puts on them,

1130
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 6: and that'll tell us a lot about this defense. So

1131
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 6: that's an upcoming riddle you know that we made an

1132
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 6: answer to.

1133
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: By the way, in terms of consistency at receiver. Let

1134
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: me introduce you to Landon Parker.

1135
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 6: I mean, here you are with an answer.

1136
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, looks like spec You got the answer.

1137
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: It looks like Spiccoli plays like Jefferson. That's all I

1138
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: got to say. All right, Steven Holder, appreciate it. We

1139
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: will talk to you soon, all right, stay cool at camp.

1140
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: All right, Oh, Stephen, you know what?

1141
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 5: Hold on? I got one other one for you. Sorry,

1142
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 5: I totally forgot this. Are you still there?

1143
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 6: Yeah? I am.

1144
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 5: Listen.

1145
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you on the spot here, and I

1146
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: apologize for that, but I totally never do that. I

1147
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: know you never do that. We have mentioned before on

1148
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: the program. Your uncle in law is Hall of Famer

1149
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: Andre Dawson. I think we've mentioned that on the show.

1150
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: I hope you don't mind me outing that that your

1151
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: wife spend a lot of time in childhood with Andre Dawson,

1152
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: her uncle. I'm just strictly curious whether or not just

1153
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 2: in pat you know, yesterday or whatever it may be,

1154
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: if she ever made mention of the fact, or if

1155
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: she ever had any encounter with Ryan Samberg since we

1156
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: lost Ryan Samberg yesterday, I thought maybe there might have

1157
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: been a story that she had shared with you that

1158
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 2: you could share.

1159
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 6: No, she knew the family in fact, Yeah, and if

1160
00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 6: I recall correctly, may have actually babysat his kids, So

1161
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,479
Speaker 6: I mean, you know when she was like twelve. But yeah, yeah,

1162
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 6: I said the first thing I thought about when I

1163
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 6: saw the news. So, yeah, that whole Cubs crew back

1164
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 6: in the day from everything I was told, I mean

1165
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 6: I wasn't there, but everything I've told, I mean, that

1166
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,959
Speaker 6: was a really close knit group, as you can imagine, right,

1167
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 6: and they're all the families are still close and all that.

1168
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, I haven't talked to de Andre since that

1169
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 6: news or heard from him, but I imagine, I imagine

1170
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 6: he'll he'll be there for the services and that kind

1171
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 6: of thing. That group's still pretty close, So I definitely

1172
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 6: that's definitely struck a quarter with me when I saw it.

1173
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 6: For that reason.

1174
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, great player, no question, appreciate it, Steven. As always,

1175
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Samberg, whose daughter, by the way, lived in Central

1176
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: and I think Ryan Samberg spent a lot of time,

1177
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: it might have even lived here briefly. But truly truly

1178
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: a class gentleman.