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Speaker 2: We went four minutes before I got into my Lepercock.

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Speaker 1: Ok that's fair for that that team for me? That

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Speaker 1: Okay, one other one for you?

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Speaker 2: Of the box. Michigan State, Okay, fair, Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: one a team every year that I always like to

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Speaker 1: make a deep run, and I like the coach, and

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Speaker 1: they absolutely have one of the best players in college

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Speaker 1: basketball right now. But I'm worried because of the level

439
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Speaker 1: that they just had to go through the gauntlet they

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Speaker 1: just had to go through to win their conference championship

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Speaker 1: and the energy they had to exert to do so.

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Speaker 2: Arkansas and Tom Green talked about them yesterday because they

443
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Speaker 2: got to go to Portland, right, Yeah, they got to

444
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Speaker 2: go out west and they play at four thirty.

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Speaker 1: I did watch Hawaii When are you going out there?

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Speaker 2: May two months?

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Speaker 1: I did watch them when I got back to my

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Speaker 1: hotel on Saturday night. I watched their conference championship. They

449
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Speaker 1: knocked out UC Irvine and Eaters. Right, that's right, the

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Speaker 1: joint right and it was cool that Hawaii had. They've

451
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Speaker 1: got a couple of big guys that are, you know,

452
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Speaker 1: pretty active under the basket, and they run pretty well

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Speaker 1: in transition, and you know, we'll see what happens there.

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Speaker 1: But but Arkansas, I mean, can you imagine if Arkansas

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Speaker 1: just becomes Arkansas runs into buzzsalf Yeah, okay, Tricia. Also,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna give numbers away today. We'll probably begin doing

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Speaker 1: so here in just about twenty minutes. Kids go crazy

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Speaker 1: over this. They're disappointed today because the Saint Patrick's Day

459
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Speaker 1: parade already took place, but already teachers are telling the

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Speaker 1: kids that the numbers games up and running, and that's

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Speaker 1: that is actually making a lot of people feel better.

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Speaker 1: But Tricia Whitaker, you know her, because of course she

463
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Speaker 1: was at here in Indianapolis at CBS four for a

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Speaker 1: number of years, still involved with Indiana University. Just had

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Speaker 1: a conversation with Kyle Schwarber. Watched the entire playoff run

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Speaker 1: for the football team and is involved in the World

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Speaker 1: Baseball Classic and joins us from Miami, correct where the

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Speaker 1: finals are being played tonight at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: On the other side.

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Speaker 1: Yes, World Baseball Classic Championship tonight down in Miami. It

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Speaker 1: is the United States, It is Venezuela eight o'clock first pitch.

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Speaker 1: You can see it on Fox. But of course you

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Speaker 1: can also hear about it because Tricia Whitaker, who needs

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Speaker 1: no introduction, but I'm going to give her one anyway,

475
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Speaker 1: native of Bloomington, worked at CBS four, has been regularly

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Speaker 1: a guest and a friend of this radio station, and

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Speaker 1: also working Major League Baseball coverage for Apple TV. But Tricia,

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Speaker 1: a little different assignment for this particular event for you

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Speaker 1: down in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, Jake. It's been so much fun.

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty much just doing social media content down here.

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Speaker 5: In Miami, interviewing the guys, interviewing.

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Speaker 6: The players, and getting some fun storylines because it's just

485
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Speaker 6: such a passionate tournament that it really it needs more

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Speaker 6: coverage than just the x's.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that Tricia I've noticed about it, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of from a bird's eye view, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily you know, like boots on the ground view. So

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Speaker 1: you can tell me if this is an off base thing,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not going to say that it goes as

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Speaker 1: far as like say, the waste management Opening Golf, where

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Speaker 1: like it's a more relaxed or Ryder Cup thing, where

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Speaker 1: it's a more relaxed the stringent rules of the game

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Speaker 1: go out the window and guys kick back a little

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Speaker 1: more because it is still a very highly competitive event,

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Speaker 1: but it seems like it's one where guys do let

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Speaker 1: like the fun and the kid in them come out

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Speaker 1: a little bit as well. Now is there accuracy to

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Speaker 1: that or is that just a way too far away observation.

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Speaker 5: No, there's accuracy to it.

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Speaker 6: I would not say that that affects the seriousness of

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Speaker 6: it for them. In fact, I would argue that, especially

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Speaker 6: from the Dominican side and the Venezuelan inside, they're actually

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Speaker 6: far more serious about the WBC and winning a title

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Speaker 6: for their country than they are a World Series.

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Speaker 5: And that's not to say they don't care about a

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Speaker 5: World Series.

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Speaker 6: They very much do.

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Speaker 5: But what we don't understand.

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Speaker 6: In America is that it's different for them, And I've

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Speaker 6: talked to a lot of guys about that.

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Speaker 5: And their pride.

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Speaker 6: And their country and their baseball routs in Venezuela specifically, it's.

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Speaker 5: Different, and winning.

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Speaker 6: A title for their country would mean more to most

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Speaker 6: of these guys in winning a World Series. It's just

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Speaker 6: baseball has been integrated in their country in a different

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Speaker 6: way than it has in our country. And that's not

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Speaker 6: to say that it's not important to our country. It's

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Speaker 6: America's pastime. It's just different, and so the passion is

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Speaker 6: probably on display more. They are also among their brothers

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Speaker 6: from their country, right, so they all have the same

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Speaker 6: fun traditions. The Venezuelan team, they're the best dancers I've

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Speaker 6: ever seen, you know. And so when they're all in

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Speaker 6: the in the dugout together after the game, they're all

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Speaker 6: doing their countries like dance to their country's song.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's just it's different. It hits home for

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Speaker 5: them more so.

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Speaker 1: Also with this particularly, and I know the United States

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Speaker 1: has won this before, they did so in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to replicate that tonight or duplicate that is stylistically,

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Speaker 1: is the game in this tournament played any differently, either

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Speaker 1: from a strategic standpoint, a sort of rule change standpoint,

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Speaker 1: or is it pretty much what you see what you

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Speaker 1: get like an MLB game.

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Speaker 6: No, So, I mean I think strategically it's absolutely played differently.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: We've actually seen that with Team USA.

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Speaker 6: So a lot of times these managers they go to

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Speaker 6: these major league teams and they say, hey, we want

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Speaker 6: your guy for the WBC, and these major league teams

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Speaker 6: are like, well, don't pitch him, you know, for longer.

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Speaker 5: Than X amount of time.

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Speaker 6: So they do strategically have to plan differently. So, you know,

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Speaker 6: the whole thing with Scooble, right, he had to go

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Speaker 6: back to Tiger's camp, otherwise he would be the starter

548
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Speaker 6: tonight for the championship game because he and the Tigers

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Speaker 6: want him ready in prime for opening Days. So strategy

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Speaker 6: absolutely plays into this differently than the regular season. You know,

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Speaker 6: this is if this is a championship. In the regular season,

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Speaker 6: you're putting Scooble on the mound, right, But tonight Nolan

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Speaker 6: McLean is he is He's going to be in a

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Speaker 6: pitch kind of about sixty five to seventy pitches.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 6: In a normal game, you're like, put him out there,

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Speaker 6: let him go as long as as he can possibly go. Right,

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Speaker 6: So it is different.

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Speaker 5: The strategy is different.

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Speaker 6: And also you don't know what some of these managers

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Speaker 6: have promised teams and gms on the side, right, they

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Speaker 6: might say, all right.

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Speaker 5: If you're taking our guy.

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Speaker 6: You got to at least get him in there for

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Speaker 6: a couple of that bats, right or whatever. It is,

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Speaker 6: So a lot of times that will happen, So strategy

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Speaker 6: is one hundred percent different.

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Speaker 1: In the WBC, Tricia Whitaker is my guest. He's on

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Speaker 1: the Java House Cold Brew Coffee guest line for the

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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic that is taking place championship game down

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Speaker 1: in Miami tonight. She will have the coverage of it

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Speaker 1: from a social media standpoint, foul Territory the podcast as well,

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Speaker 1: and then of course activities begin for the Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball season with Apple TV for her. Tricia, when I

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Speaker 1: think about international baseball and I'm going on the way

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Speaker 1: back here right, I know that's shocking, but it used

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Speaker 1: to be that it was not uncommon that you would

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Speaker 1: hear reports and this is not the case.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I realize where players would use opportunity like this to

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Speaker 1: defect the United States, to literally declare their defection. I

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Speaker 1: think two of the Cuban players did that during the

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Speaker 1: Pan AEM Games in eighty seven here in Indianapolis. But

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Speaker 1: from a baseball standpoint, not necessarily in terms of governmental

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Speaker 1: diplomacy from your country, but are there still players within

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Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classic that are young enough, that are

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Speaker 1: coming from other nations that are not necessarily as known

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Speaker 1: for their baseball prowess, that this event gives them the

589
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Speaker 1: opportunity to showcase themselves and thus end up with contracts

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Speaker 1: that will land them in the US.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I certainly think it's maybe a possibility. I

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Speaker 6: don't know that probably as much a thing.

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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, most of them are already on a radar

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Speaker 1: if they're playing at that level, right exactly.

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Speaker 6: It's just you're kind of already on everybody's radar. Now.

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Speaker 6: That's not to say that something couldn't happen, right, you know,

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Speaker 6: you're sitting there. I mean, I think last but see, yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's the thing. Like with Team Italy last night, it

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Speaker 6: was like there were some guys.

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Speaker 5: Stepping up to the plate. They're like, well, he hasn't

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Speaker 5: played higher than.

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Speaker 6: Double a ball, you know, but they're already with a

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Speaker 6: major league team. So does it put him on people's

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Speaker 6: radar a little bit more? Perhaps, But I don't know

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Speaker 6: that it necessarily would do something as you know, impactful,

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Speaker 6: as like all right, let's bring that guy over from

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Speaker 6: another country or something.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, that nowadays that.

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Speaker 1: Would happen the Josh Whitiker, my guest, the fun thing

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Speaker 1: one of them that I've seen that you came up

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Speaker 1: with from this. How cool was it to see that

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Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber, who has done about everything one can do

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Speaker 1: so far in a Major League baseball career, looks back

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Speaker 1: on the year in sport and says, man, Indiana winning

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Speaker 1: the national title in football was the coolest. That was

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Speaker 1: a pretty cool Yeah, pretty cool that.

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Speaker 5: It was awesome.

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Speaker 6: I love Kyle.

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Speaker 5: He's wonderful.

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Speaker 6: Kyle and I were at IU at the same time.

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Speaker 6: But it's funny like we didn't.

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Speaker 5: Know each other when we were at IU.

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Speaker 6: I didn't really cross paths with him for the couple

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Speaker 6: of years that we kind of cross paths at IU.

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Speaker 6: But then when I got to, you know, the majors,

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Speaker 6: and he was in the Majors and I interviewed him

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Speaker 6: a bunch of times, and obviously we have the IU connections.

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Speaker 6: So yesterday I was like, Hey, I'm doing some fun

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Speaker 6: American sports like trivia like greatest what's your greatest sports

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Speaker 6: moment of your memory from the US right? And his

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Speaker 6: was I you winning the national title?

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Speaker 5: I mean, here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: I know a lot of people were like, oh, could

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Speaker 6: he not stay twenty sixteen with the Cubs. Well, when

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Speaker 6: we're saying greatest sports moment, we don't. I don't necessarily

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Speaker 6: mean a moment that he.

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Speaker 5: Was a part of.

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Speaker 6: You know, you mean you mean the moment where you

639
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Speaker 6: were watching and you remember it like not you were playing.

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Speaker 6: And because of course winning the World Series meant everything

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Speaker 6: to him.

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Speaker 5: But he was able to be a fan for the

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Speaker 5: IU game.

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Speaker 6: And he's just been the most He's just been so

645
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Speaker 6: supportive about you football.

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Speaker 5: So you know when he said.

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Speaker 6: That, I was like, well, duh, of course that's his answer.

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Speaker 6: So for the people asking why it was in twenty

649
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Speaker 6: sixteen Cubs like, no, you're not gonna say something.

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Speaker 5: You played it like and you've knew Kyle. He's like

651
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Speaker 5: the most humble guy in the world, so he's not

652
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Speaker 5: going to.

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Speaker 6: Be like, the greatest US sports history.

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Speaker 5: Moment was when I won a world Right, yeah it

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Speaker 5: was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Well listen, I mean there is the Cubs thing, Tricia,

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Speaker 1: as you know. I mean, it was a century of futility, right,

658
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Speaker 1: and then they win the World Series, they break through.

659
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Speaker 1: But the same can be said. I mean it was

660
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Speaker 1: equally as surreal and unlikely, maybe even more so when

661
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Speaker 1: you consider the short amount of time in which Indiana

662
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: suddenly catapulted to themselves. There can Indiana get back there?

663
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Speaker 2: Back there? Basketball wise?

664
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Speaker 6: Oh gosh, that question really Like, I'm not gonna say

665
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 6: it keeps me up at night because there are more

666
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 6: important things in life than just basketball.

667
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 5: However, it does kind of haunt me a little bit.

668
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 6: They absolutely can, I think now.

669
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 5: It's just it's been so long since the basketball.

670
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 6: Program has been relevant and that makes me sad. It

671
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 6: makes me so sad because that's not how I grew up.

672
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 6: You know, we were always relevant, and so I just

673
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 6: think I don't even want the expectation in my brain

674
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 6: isn't like, oh, get back to the Final four, because

675
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 6: that's hard to do it. Please just be relevant again, Like,

676
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 6: be relevant again, be competitive again.

677
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 5: Be that team in the Big Ten where you're like,

678
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 5: we gotta play IU. It's not gonna be easy right there.

679
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 6: They haven't been that for a while, and it's not

680
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 6: where it should be. For the legacy that you know,

681
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 6: I basketball players and coaches before I've left behind.

682
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 5: I think they can be relevant.

683
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 6: And I like Debrees, I really do like debrees, I

684
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 6: think that he wants I means far more of a

685
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 6: sample size than just one season.

686
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 5: I think it's insane. It's insane to me and.

687
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: A roster that he could organically put together rightly.

688
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 6: I hate it when people jumped down of guys through him,

689
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 6: like he's been there for a year, like top give

690
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 6: him time.

691
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: So I like to breathe. I like him a lot,

692
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 5: and I.

693
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 6: Think that he can do some special things with this program.

694
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 5: And I do think we can be relevant again. But

695
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 5: that's what I want. I want to be relevant. I'm

696
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 5: not like, let Munn and Natti next year, like that's

697
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 5: that's hard to do.

698
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, we're going to end with this. Give

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00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: me the major League baseball team that quietly this offseason,

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00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: either through natural growth of a youth, a young roster,

701
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: or through transactions, that had the best off season where

702
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: you look at it and say, they can be the

703
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: one that no one talked about but suddenly puts things

704
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: together where they have a really good year.

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00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 6: Go oh man, that's a good one. I know a

706
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 6: lot of people have been talking about like the under

707
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 6: the radar underdog teams work for this upcoming season.

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00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 5: You know, what I'm going to say.

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00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 6: Oh man, I know this will play well to your audience.

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00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna say they're red. I'm gonna say they're red.

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00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm going to say they're I think they

712
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 7: could possibly if they're kind of like that classic like

713
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 7: we're fun, we're dangerous, we're not.

714
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 6: Really scared of anyone team.

715
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm gonna go with the red.

716
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: Okay, what about the youth?

717
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 6: And also I was also going to say the Pirates

718
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 6: they're still rebuilding, but they've got young talent coming up

719
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 6: the loud out of.

720
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: Course, they've got Paul Schimes. They could be kind of

721
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: that annoying underdog.

722
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: What about the youth of the Athletics? Am I way

723
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: off base there?

724
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 5: No, you're not off base there.

725
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: But we're still not probably a couple of years, right.

726
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 6: I think we're definitely a couple of years away from that.

727
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 5: And I know, like that would be a really good story.

728
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 6: We would love that type of story in sports because

729
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 6: the Athletics have been everybody.

730
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: Just laughed about them, as.

731
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 6: I know, I know they you know, they haven't one headline,

732
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 6: you know, necessarily this offseason. They're one of the youngest

733
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 6: teams the youngest cores in baseball. Sorry, and they've got

734
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 6: some good pieces. I don't think they're expected to win now,

735
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 6: so there's zero pressure and you know they'll lut guys

736
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 6: play through mistakes and that could be big for development.

737
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Speaker 5: So I don't know, we'll see.

738
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Speaker 6: Maybe, maybe, Jake, you can play this back at the

739
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 6: end of the baseball.

740
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 5: Didn't be like Tris. Remember when I told you it

741
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 5: was gonna be as no.

742
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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm all in on the Blue Jays. I jumped

743
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: back in. I was a kid when I was a

744
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: fan of the Blue Jays. I jumped in the World Series.

745
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: Wasn't actually the whole postseason wonderful World Series? And uh

746
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: it was great World Series. And so now I'm all

747
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: in that the Blue Jays are actually who I'm following.

748
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: But the A's are kind of cool when they're young.

749
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 5: I love the Blue Jays.

750
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: That Toronto fan base is insane. It broke my heart

751
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 6: to see them lose the world.

752
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 5: I mean it really did.

753
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 6: Like the friends on the Dog, they're great, like when

754
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 6: the Blue Days lots of the world serious, I mean,

755
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 6: I was like, why am I so upset about her?

756
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 2: Listen?

757
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: Literally, they had like nine different pitches where it's like,

758
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: this is it right here? This is where they're gonna

759
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: win the World Series.

760
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 5: I love that team. Oh man, it broke my heart.

761
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 6: See Vladimir Gerrera Junior lose that game. I was like, no, no, no,

762
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 6: he wanted this so bad.

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Speaker 1: I just want to You know what I think would

764
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: be great television is they need to bring Kirk to

765
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Speaker 1: the NFL Combine and just make him run the one

766
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Speaker 1: hundred meter dash over and over.

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Speaker 6: I'd watch it all my gosh, Jake, I'm going to

768
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 6: tell him that next time I interview him, I'm gonna

769
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Speaker 6: be like, hey, I got the idea for you.

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Speaker 1: Watch it on the loop. All right, Tricia, we can

771
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 1: see your coverage. Folks can follow along for the World

772
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: Baseball Classic Wear In terms of what you'll be doing tonight,

773
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Speaker 1: I'll be.

774
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 6: All over Twitter and all over Instagram at Christia Whittaker.

775
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 5: You can find me there.

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00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it, enjoy, all right, Thanks Jake, Tricia Whitaker

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00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: joining us Java House Cold Brew Coffee guest line. By

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784
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be in Lafayette. You want to go in

785
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786
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Speaker 1: and twenty five percent off your purchase. Right there, addie

788
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Speaker 1: numbers to give away.

789
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Speaker 2: Next, I think we've got tickets to give away. Next. Oh,

790
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: who do we got tickets to give away for? I

791
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: like that. It's not a who, it's a what the

792
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 2: Big not the Big ten, but the Final four fanfaest

793
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: that's in downtown Indianapolis. We've got two four pack of

794
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: tickets to give away. That is Friday April through third

795
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: Monday April sixth. Anytime between those days right there, you'll

796
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: have some interactive games. You'll have celebrity and athlete appearances, concerts,

797
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: you name it, all right here downtown with you know,

798
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: Division one, two, and three Final Fours all being in Indianapolis.

799
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: All right, So that's what we will do. On the

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Speaker 1: other side, we're doing that text line or phone call.

801
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: I'll do text line yea, all right?

802
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: Two thir and nine ten seventy is the text lineup

803
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: will get you squared away on the numbers game.

804
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: Let you know with that.

805
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: And I learned something yesterday, very disappointing about Indianapolis. Very disappointing.

806
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: But I'll let you know about it next. So heard

807
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: it from a friend who heard it from a friend

808
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: who heard it from another You've been messing around.

809
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: I've always tried to figure out how many people that involves?

810
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: Is it five?

811
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: I heard it from a friend who heard it from

812
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: another friend who heard it from another friend heard from

813
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: a friend who heard from a friend who heard it

814
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: from another. Okay, that you've been messing around. So that's

815
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: two people there, okay. And then you so one, three, six, eight,

816
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: nine people involved in that little jingle.

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00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: Eddie, how about that? Glad you can count?

818
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: Check same number that would be on the diamond tonight

819
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: for the World Baseball Classic, right, that's right. We have

820
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: tickets to give away not nine, but eight because it

821
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: is two different four packs for the Final Four fan Fest,

822
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: which is an awesome event that if you've never been

823
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: to it, it's great because it's linked with the Final Four.

824
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: Obviously it will be Final four weekend that is here

825
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. You have every level of college basketball using

826
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: Indianapolis to crown their national champion. And in addition.

827
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Speaker 6: To that.

828
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: The fan fest.

829
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: You know, they've got all kinds of different memories and

830
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: videos and music on display, and schools on display, and

831
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: the history of college basketball and display. It is a

832
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: very very very cool event and we are giving them

833
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: away via the text line. Correct, Eddie, now is correct?

834
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: Sir Jacoba, I would like to know this, Eddie. Would

835
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: you like to take a road trip And I'm saying

836
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: not you, but just whoever's listening rhetorically whatever, sure to

837
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Speaker 1: either Evansville or I think somewhere in Kentucky maybe Louisville.

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00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: Here's why, Okay. One of my favorite places. Honestly, I

839
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: have a lot of favorite places in Indianapolis, and I

840
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: have probably five or six places that are kind of

841
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: in my rotation of places that we go for, whether

842
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: it be you know, a drink, dinner, watching the game, whatever.

843
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: One of my favorite locations because it was always super

844
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: cozy in the winter time, and it was an awesome

845
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: open air atmosphere in the spring and summertime, and they

846
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: had an awesome like rewards program, which I've racked up

847
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: probably three free meals I have sitting, as well as

848
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: a gift card that I got for Christmas. I think

849
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Speaker 1: because I went regularly, and last night I was like,

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00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: you know what, we haven't been there in probably two

851
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: or three weeks. I mean I go probably every two

852
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: or three weeks. And then I saw all over the

853
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: place last night everybody talking about how it closed, and

854
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: I guess I'm always the last to know of things

855
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: like this. Have you ever been to Drake's Eddie, No,

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Speaker 1: I have not. Up in the Clearwater area. I loved

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00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: the Drake's Lagger. They had a chicken karaoke bowl that

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00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: I was I just loved. They also had a really

859
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: good salad and Shannon liked a lot of their sushi rolls.

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Speaker 2: They did.

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00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: And I saw yesterday they closed. So now the closest

862
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: location would be Evansville or I think Louisville. So I've

863
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: got and listen, I've got enough. We can get on

864
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: the you know, the new extension of I sixty nine

865
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Speaker 1: to go down to Evansville and stop at the Quarry

866
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: gas and gulp sites on the way down and then

867
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Speaker 1: go to Drakes and I've got enough for probably the

868
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: entire car to get something neat loved it. Maybe I

869
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: guess I didn't go there enough, but I was sad

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00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: to hear it. I was sad to hear that it closed.

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00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Definitely disappointed to hear that it closed. I also sat

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00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: there as I was wondering about that with Drakes, asking

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Speaker 1: myself this, and I came up with the formula that

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Speaker 1: I think is the right answer. Are the Colts better

875
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: right now than they were last year? Or let me

876
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 1: rephrase that. Are they better at the end of free

877
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: agency or their major splash of free agency than they

878
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: were going into it? Did they improve their roster? And

879
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Speaker 1: there's a caveat that I think you have to consider

880
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: when asking it. And I'll do it with one of

881
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: our favorites on the show, Steven Holder. Next fabulous song.

882
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Speaker 1: Fabulous song queued up by Eddie Garrison. Numbers coming up

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Speaker 1: by the way bottom of each hour. We got a

884
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Speaker 1: lot of numbers to give away for our NCAA Quarry

885
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Speaker 1: in Company game. Now you know how the game works.

886
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: You give me a number, I give you a school

887
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: that has been randomly assigned to that number. Three ways

888
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: to win. You get the double digit seed to advance

889
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: the furthest you get the team to get blown out

890
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: by the largest margin, or you get the national champion

891
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: National champion winner. All three winners get and this is

892
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: the you get a hat to proudly wear of your university.

893
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Speaker 1: So just say, for example, you get Howard, they get

894
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: beat by forty eight. You win Howard hat. You're walking

895
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: around people like you look stylish now, Howard hat? Why

896
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: I got this from Query company, numbers game conversation piece

897
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: for years. Or if you are the grand champion, the

898
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Speaker 1: national champion, you get not only the hat to wear,

899
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Speaker 1: but you'll be wearing it while you are eating your

900
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Speaker 1: Chicago's pizza, while you're enjoying some Java house coffee, et cetera.

901
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: Or tea you never know, or tea, yeah, the green tea. Now,

902
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: people have been texting into the show at three, one, seven, two, nine, ten,

903
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: seventy oos. Some people will also occasionally text you, Jake,

904
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Speaker 2: this is not for text that this is exclusively over

905
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Speaker 2: the air radio, and I'm sorry if you can't get through.

906
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: That's just how the cookie crumbles. That's right.

907
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: Eddie doesn't like to admit it, but he loves the

908
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: Numbers game.

909
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 6: Uh.

910
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Speaker 1: I've been crunching the numbers on the Colts to ask

911
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: this question, which we will bring in Stephen Holder on

912
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Speaker 1: the Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest Line to ask Steven,

913
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: are the Colts better right now than they were three

914
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: months ago?

915
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 8: I don't think you can objectively say that they are.

916
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 6: No.

917
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 8: In fact, I think at the moment, granted, it's what

918
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 8: March seventeenth, and it's still in incomplete grade right now.

919
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 8: You know, we're still in the middle of the semester.

920
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 8: But wait, I'm talking about a negative to be completely honest,

921
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 8: just because they have lost a lot of players who people,

922
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 8: as Coats fans might not have liked those players, and

923
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 8: that is fine, but they played a lot of snaps

924
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 8: and they had a part in whatever success they may

925
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 8: have had when they were having success and they're gone.

926
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Speaker 8: So you've actually had a negative I believe so far,

927
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 8: and we'll see what they can do about that.

928
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Speaker 2: I look at it this way.

929
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Speaker 1: You know, you could look at it and say, yeah,

930
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean they're better than they were three months ago

931
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Speaker 1: because they had lost eight straight or whatever it is.

932
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Speaker 1: But you have to look at assuming Daniel Jones is

933
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Speaker 1: if you look at where the Colts were headed, and

934
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Speaker 1: I don't think that they were headed towards a Seattle

935
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Speaker 1: type into the regular season. I don't think they were

936
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Speaker 1: about to go fourteen and three or even thirteen and four,

937
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: but probably a solid you know, eleven and six, twelve

938
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Speaker 1: and five somewhere in there, right before the Jones injury

939
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Speaker 1: and with that. So that's the measuring stick there right.

940
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: I just don't know in what areas, because yes, getting

941
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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce retained and Daniel Jones to go with him

942
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: was important. But Steven, is it possible that we're going

943
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: to learn that Michael Pittman Junior was a more important

944
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: piece to that offense than we realized, even when he

945
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: wasn't catching footballs?

946
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 8: Well, I do think he is someone they will have

947
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Speaker 8: to account for when this is all said and done.

948
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Speaker 8: There's no question. I think that they schemed up a

949
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 8: lot of stuff for Michael Pittman, and now you will

950
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 8: have to scheme those plays up for someone else. I

951
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 8: think they'll be okay, though. I think you'll see more volume,

952
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 8: a little more volume for Tyler Warren. I think you'll

953
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Speaker 8: see Josh Downs have a bigger role, which I don't

954
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 8: have a problem with. I think he's a fabulous player,

955
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 8: and obviously Alex Pearce is going to have a different

956
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 8: role now. They lose something though, They lose some edge,

957
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 8: they lose some physicality, They lose just that ability to

958
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Speaker 8: get those tough yards, which is, you know, obviously aligned

959
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 8: with that physicality. I think they lose a little bit

960
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 8: of edge with Michael Pittman. I don't think it transforms

961
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 8: their offense in a negative way, but they will feel

962
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Speaker 8: the loss that I'm not going to pretend they're not

963
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Speaker 8: going to feel that loss. He had a lot of

964
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Speaker 8: production here for four years and for five years, and

965
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 8: that's not nothing.

966
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Speaker 1: Stephen, what position in your opinion? Steven Holder of ESPN

967
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: is my guest coming out of the draft, what position

968
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: takes the longest for a player to truly acclimate and

969
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: develop from college into the NFL. Not name quarterback, that's

970
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: the obvious answer, But aside from quarterback.

971
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 8: Well, it's funny. I would say we've seen a lot

972
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 8: of for example, wide receivers late lately just come onto

973
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 8: the scene as rookies and have big years, and you

974
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 8: would think offensively, you might have some challenges, you know,

975
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 8: just put the complexity of NFL offenses. But that's not

976
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 8: where I see it. I think it's really the pass rushers,

977
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 8: which is frankly the position that they will now have

978
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 8: to be targeting in the draft. And I think it's

979
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 8: often the pass rushers. Colts are a great example of that, right.

980
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 8: I mean, we'll get JT. Tuamolile last year, who is

981
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 8: probably going to have to play a bigger role this year.

982
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 8: Undoubtedly is going to have to play a bigger role.

983
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 8: He had a sensational run in the twenty twenty four

984
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 8: college football playoffs and he comes into the NFL and

985
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 8: he doesn't play in large part, you know, for most

986
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 8: of the rookie season, started to play late in the season,

987
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 8: and I don't have enough film on him to really

988
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 8: have a great evaluation. I think we're going to have

989
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 8: to find out if he can play. So that's a projection.

990
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 8: I think you even lay out to a lot too.

991
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 8: I think when you watched him at UCLA, I would

992
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 8: say he had a fair amount of pass rush moves

993
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 8: and really had and really attacked those offensive tackles in

994
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 8: college with a diverse array of moves. The problem is

995
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 8: in the NFL, the offensive tackles anticipate those moves, so

996
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 8: you got to start over again, and you've got to

997
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 8: retool that bag that you have. So it's a very

998
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 8: long answer, but I do think that the pass rushers,

999
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 8: because the game is so fast and the ball gets

1000
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 8: out quick and all these other reasons, they have a

1001
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 8: hard time impacting games right away in many cases.

1002
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: You know, the the pass rush to me has always

1003
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: been the enigma because and I don't know, Steven, you

1004
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: know you've covered you know, you covered the bucks for example.

1005
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: Do most teams struggle? And I know that are obviously

1006
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I mean you go out and you

1007
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: draft yourself, you know, one of the Watt brothers. I mean,

1008
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: you're in pretty good shape right out of the box, right,

1009
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: But is it is this atypical that a franchised seemingly

1010
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: swings and misses this frequently?

1011
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 8: Well, here's what I would say. I feel like it's

1012
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 8: interesting because the Colts. Some people won't like this statement,

1013
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 8: but I don't care. The data shows it's true. They

1014
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 8: are very, very very good at drafting. They have a

1015
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 8: great draft record. Their problem is they have struck out

1016
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 8: in two places, pass rush and quarterback, and the impact

1017
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 8: of those strikeouts are massive. So I would say, I

1018
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 8: don't know if their results are typical or atypical, but

1019
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 8: I think they should be better. When you look at

1020
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 8: the totality of the cults and how productive their drafts are,

1021
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 8: They've had some really good drafts. Chris Baller is one

1022
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 8: of the best. If he got fired tomorrow, someone would

1023
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 8: hire him immediately to come run their drafts. I'm telling you,

1024
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 8: as you know, as an assistant GM or personnel director,

1025
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 8: I would stake an entire month of mortgage on that

1026
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 8: right now, right because he's very good at that. The

1027
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 8: question is why hasn't that translated to the most important position,

1028
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 8: at least on defense, quarterback. I'd say he just hasn't

1029
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 8: taken enough shots in the draft, which we can quibble about,

1030
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 8: but the past was he has taken a lot of

1031
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 8: shots and they have not really borne a lot of fruit.

1032
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 8: He's gotten a lot of singles, a couple of doubles.

1033
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 8: There has never been a home run, and I think

1034
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 8: that is what's killed them really over the years.

1035
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: Something that Chris Powarder has done well Steven is draft

1036
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: linebackers in those middle rounds, the fourth and fifth rounds,

1037
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: and when you look at the current roster Jalen Carlys

1038
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: is the only linebacker that the Colts have that's returning.

1039
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: And to kind of look at it this way, lou

1040
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: An Riumo's defense is so complex, and I think that's

1041
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: largely why he doesn't like to play a lot of

1042
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: rookies and that's why j T. Twomo Allow didn't see

1043
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: the field a lot. And with where things are at

1044
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 2: right now, can Louis and Arumo trust a rookie linebacker

1045
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: to come in here to replace Zaire Franklin as the

1046
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: green dot, to be the guy calling out to plays

1047
00:55:59,480 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: on defense.

1048
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 8: Well, I think you just hit on an important point,

1049
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 8: which I'll make it before I answered the question. This

1050
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 8: is why I'm surprised they didn't make more of a

1051
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 8: splash at linebacker and free agency, because someone has to

1052
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 8: do it. You can hate Zire Franklin with all your

1053
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 8: heart as a cold fan. I don't agree with that, right,

1054
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 8: I mean, do I think Do I think that he

1055
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 8: was that he was a sensational linebacker last year?

1056
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 5: No?

1057
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 8: But that's not the question. The question is do you

1058
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 8: have someone that can replace him right now? The answer

1059
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 8: is probably no. I don't see anybody on the roster.

1060
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 8: And if you if you have someone they don't, they

1061
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 8: probably won't do it very well. So that leaves them

1062
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 8: in a situation where, look, you you might not have

1063
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 8: liked what you had, but you don't even have that anymore. Okay,

1064
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 8: So I don't know where they are and you are correct,

1065
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 8: though Juanna Roumo, almost to a detriment, I think really

1066
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 8: is a little bit does have a little bit of

1067
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 8: a distaste for playing young players, and I think that

1068
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 8: sometimes can work against them because I think you can

1069
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 8: over you can have an overreliance on veterans, and sometimes

1070
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 8: that's not always better, you know. And I think it

1071
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 8: also flies in the face of what Chris Ballard said

1072
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 8: at the end of the season, which is that they

1073
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 8: have to get younger and faster on defense. Okay, true,

1074
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 8: are you going to play those younger and faster players

1075
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 8: and when you get them, that's another question, right. So

1076
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 8: I don't have a lot of answers, but there's a

1077
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 8: lot of questions there, and they don't sit well with

1078
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 8: you if you're trying to progress to the defense next year.

1079
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: If Zire Franklin had was the same player with the

1080
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: same results, the same trajectory right now, but had never

1081
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: had a podcast and said anything publicly about Pro Bowls

1082
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: or any other such thing. None, none of which ever

1083
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: was like completely holy cow, stop the press, but some

1084
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: of it that was a little like, really, dude, would

1085
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: he still be here? Because I could point to a

1086
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Speaker 1: lot of guys on the roster that we could certainly

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00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: say their numbers have diminished, But the guys that some

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00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: of the players that they've even added right now are

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Speaker 1: kind of just a guy. So would he still be

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00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: here if it weren't for putting himself kind of out there?

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Speaker 8: So fair question. I would say that the answer is no.

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Speaker 8: I really believe this decision was about football and didn't

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00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 8: have anything to do with the off the field stuff.

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Speaker 8: Number One, That stuff was happening a year before, in

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00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 8: two thousand and twenty four, going into twenty five. I mean,

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Speaker 8: in fact, it may there may have been even worse examples.

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00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 8: I think back in twenty four, right, like even the Giants,

1098
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 8: you know, trash talk that you might recall, and then

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Speaker 8: they go and get blown out by the Giants, right,

1100
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 8: and the optics of all of that, and the Forrest

1101
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 8: Buckner then stepping up and having to talk about what's

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Speaker 8: happening in the locker room. You might remember that statement,

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00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 8: and you know, it was messy at the end of

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00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four, so I think things were hotter on

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00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 8: him at that point and they kept him. So here's

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00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 8: the other thing. When I inquired with someone in the

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00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 8: front office about the trade the day he was traded,

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00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 8: and I kind of asked a version of the question

1109
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 8: you asked, like, you know, you know, what was this about?

1110
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 8: And the answer I got was that it was just time.

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00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 8: It was time. And I think that was a recognition

1112
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 8: that physically, you know, he had probably lost something. He

1113
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 8: had lost maybe just a step, and I think that's

1114
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 8: all it takes. Frankly, it doesn't mean the bad player.

1115
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 8: It just means you just don't have that extra step

1116
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,479
Speaker 8: that you used to have, and it was costly for them.

1117
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 8: I think the other thing that herd zire Franklin is

1118
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 8: the change from the old defense to the current defense.

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Speaker 8: I don't believe that really helped him because it put

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Speaker 8: more coverage responsibilities on him. You have to cover more ground,

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Speaker 8: things like that, and that was challenging for him and

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01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 8: kind of exposed him to some degree. So all of

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Speaker 8: that I think was a part of that decision. I

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01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 8: don't think it had a lot to do with the

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01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 8: yapping and the trash talking and all of those things

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01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 8: that fans have come to resent.

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Speaker 1: If you've surveyed Stephen Holders my guest ESPN dot com,

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Speaker 1: where you can read his work, he is, of course

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01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: on the Java House Coldbrew coffee guest line. If he

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Speaker 1: surveyed the majority of general managers in the National Football League,

1131
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: would they say they are more intrigued by the future

1132
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: of Justin Fields or Anthony Richardson.

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01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 8: I think Anthony Richardson. Okay, I can only speak for myself,

1134
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 8: but here's why I think you'd get that answer, because

1135
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 8: we know what Justin Field is.

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01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: Fair, we know what he is.

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Speaker 8: I think if you're talking about being intrigued when it

1138
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 8: comes to Justin Fields, well then you haven't paid attention, right.

1139
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 8: I think the.

1140
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: Appeal with can we really evaluate a guy when when

1141
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: some of those years are the Jets.

1142
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 8: Don't get me wrong, right, I mean he was never

1143
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 8: in optimum situations. I mean the pre Ben Johnson Bears,

1144
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 8: the Jets any year, okay, the Steelers for five minutes.

1145
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 8: I guess that was probably the height of his well,

1146
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 8: I guess he had the one year with the Bears

1147
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 8: I'd say that was pretty competent football where it was

1148
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 8: like you could talk yourself into this guy being a

1149
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 8: franchise quarterback. But then you know, he had some moments

1150
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 8: with the Steelers, but I don't think enough to really

1151
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 8: convince anybody that he was a guy. So it's really

1152
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 8: just been flashes with him. But I hear what you're

1153
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 8: saying that is fair. I do think you give him

1154
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 8: some benefit of the doubt because of the situations he

1155
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 8: was in. But he has played a lot of football,

1156
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 8: a lot, He's taken a lot of snaps, he started

1157
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 8: a lot of games. Anthony Richardson, by comparison, is it's

1158
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 8: still a neo fight. I mean, you're talking about fifteen starts.

1159
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 8: I mean it's nothing really that's less than a full season.

1160
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 8: Justin Fields has started for several you know. So I

1161
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 8: just think there's still upside there. We know that Anthony

1162
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 8: Richardson physically, we know there's a lot there. I think

1163
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 8: in a different offense, in a different situation that maybe

1164
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 8: tries to accentuate the things that he does well. And

1165
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 8: I'm not telling you I'm ever building an offense around

1166
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 8: Anthony Richardson, But but if you can find a way

1167
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 8: to put him in put in a better position where

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01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 8: you can get more out of him based on the

1169
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 8: things that he does. Well, there might be something there.

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Speaker 8: I think it's workable. I don't think he's going to

1171
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 8: get a starting job anytime soon. He's gonna have to

1172
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 8: go somewhere, prove himself as a backup, maybe get an

1173
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 8: opportunity to play, and then he's going to try to

1174
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 8: see the next Miliku Will. That's really the plan for

1175
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 8: Anthony Richardson.

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01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: This feels to me, Okay, I'm going to give you

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Speaker 1: a really one of my bad Jake Querry like comparisons,

1178
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: not necessarily analogy, but comparison. Okay, Okay, we wonder if

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Speaker 1: there's a trade market for Anthony Richardson. We see Justin

1180
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: Fields traded for a sixth I think it was a sixth.

1181
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: We think, okay, so what does that mean for Anthony Richardson?

1182
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: But is it perhaps a safer assumption to say? And

1183
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to when the New York

1184
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: Knicks traded for Carmelo Anthony, there was some dissent, this

1185
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: disagreement internally because it's like, wait a minute, we know

1186
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: this guy's going to sign with us as a free

1187
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: agent in the offseason, Why in the world would be

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01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: trade for him? And the owner stepped in and said,

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01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: we got to trade for him and get him now?

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Speaker 1: Is it possible that there The conventional wisdom would be

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01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: there's no market or interest in Richardson, but it could

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01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: rather be. And you tell me, if this is my point,

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01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: are their owners and general managers that look at Anthony

1194
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: Richardson and say, why in the world would be trade

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01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: for this guy? When the odds are really high he's

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01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: going to be released and we can just sign him

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01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: as a free agent and not give anything up for

1198
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Speaker 1: him in terms of asset in like four months. So

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Speaker 1: you can't that is judge his trade value right now.

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Speaker 8: That is one hundred an issue. I've been told that,

1201
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 8: and I think it's it stands to reason if you're

1202
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 8: if you're a team out there and you have even

1203
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 8: remote interests in Anthony Richardson, you've you've looked into the

1204
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 8: situation and this is not hard to read. They gave

1205
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 8: him permission to seek a trade when their current quarterback

1206
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 8: was unsigned and nursing an achilles tendon rupture. Think about that.

1207
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 8: So if I am if I am Team X and

1208
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 8: I have interest in Anthony Richardson. I look at that

1209
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 8: and they say, oh, they hate this guy, Well, they're

1210
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 8: gonna cut him.

1211
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: It's right, I.

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Speaker 8: Mean, I mean it almost is funny. If you're on

1213
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 8: the outside looking in, you're probably asking, wait, why aren't

1214
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 8: they holding on to him a little longer? Dame Jones hurt?

1215
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 8: That'd be the question I ask. So if you're granting him,

1216
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 8: in his representation permission under those circumstances to go seek

1217
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 8: out of trade, well, you are absolutely one thousand percent

1218
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 8: of with the guy, and if you can't get a trade,

1219
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 8: tells him you're gonna cut him.

1220
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Speaker 2: So you're right, You're absolutely right, Steven.

1221
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: What else are you working on here that we can

1222
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: look for upcoming at ESPN?

1223
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Speaker 8: So, speaking of Achilles, I want to look. Okay, let

1224
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 8: me back up. I think that we for the last

1225
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 8: several months, and really in the past week, since Daniel

1226
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 8: Jones has signed this contract. You know, nationally in particular,

1227
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 8: we've heard a lot of voices saying, well, why are

1228
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 8: they paying this guy? He's hurt and we don't even

1229
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 8: know when he's going to be available. Have been told locally, look,

1230
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 8: trust us, he's going to be ready, he's on schedule

1231
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 8: and all that. I think that I don't think we

1232
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 8: should just take their word for it. So I want

1233
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 8: to take a look at the history of Achilles injuries

1234
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 8: with quarterbacks and I'm diving into some of that and

1235
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 8: just you know, what can we reasonably expect? How do

1236
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 8: they tend to play coming off of these injuries? Things

1237
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 8: like that. So I think those are pertinent questions because

1238
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 8: we are kind of just rubber stamping this like, oh,

1239
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 8: he'll be back, Well, I mean, are we sure? And

1240
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 8: it's so what's he looked like? I mean, those are

1241
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 8: the most important questions. They have built their entire offseason

1242
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 8: around this being successful, so a better work. So anyway,

1243
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 8: I'm just getting started on that, But that's something I'm

1244
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 8: looking at here in the next week or so.

1245
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: Steven a minute ago, you just mentioned like the Malik

1246
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: Willis route seems the most likely scenario for Anthony Richardson.

1247
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: Do you think the Packers would be interested in doing

1248
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 2: something something like that again, because I know they've done

1249
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 2: it a handful of times now in the history of

1250
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 2: their franchise.

1251
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 8: They have, and I would say yes, the Packers. There's

1252
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 8: definitely been conversation with the Packers with Anthony Richardson's camp. Now,

1253
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 8: does that equate to them making a trade. No, but

1254
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 8: it says that they're interested. There's a couple other teams

1255
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 8: from what I understand, that are also at least mildly interested.

1256
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 8: You know, whether this all materializes too early to say.

1257
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 8: I think we're talking about closer to the draft personally,

1258
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 8: maybe even after or during the draft. But but I

1259
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 8: do think there's some interests there. I think teams have

1260
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 8: to feel it out. We're seeing a couple of last

1261
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 8: quarterback Domino's fall here. The Justin Fields one is an example,

1262
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 8: you know, Geno Smith et cetera, that that's the fallout

1263
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 8: for the Gino Smith trade. I do think we're getting

1264
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 8: closer to where a guy the level of Anthony Richardson,

1265
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 8: you know, maybe comes into play, but maybe not quite

1266
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 8: there just yet.

1267
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: Steven.

1268
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: We wish you the best in terms of the NCAA

1269
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: tournament and for the second time in three months seeing

1270
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: your team, the Miami Hurricanes get eliminated by a team

1271
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: from Indiana when Purdue beats him in the second round.

1272
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Speaker 2: So good luck with that.

1273
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 8: All right, all right, all right, yeah, I mean listen,

1274
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 8: I told Zam v last night.

1275
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 2: I could live with it.

1276
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 8: I could live with losing to Indiana, you know, one

1277
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 8: of the greatest single seasons we've seen in college football

1278
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 8: in a long time.

1279
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 2: I could live with it.

1280
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 8: I slept fine that night. And if it happens that

1281
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 8: we lose in the second round of the NCAA Tournament

1282
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 8: with a team that was awful last year, by the way,

1283
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 8: to a very well coached Perdue team that I think

1284
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 8: the world of, I'll sleep just fine.

1285
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: So all right, I.

1286
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 8: Guess I don't know what that says about me as

1287
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 8: a fan, but.

1288
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: Boiler, that's a nice compliment to Purdue, that's what it says.

1289
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: It says actually that you're not fifteen years old like

1290
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: I was. I broke my phone when Indiana lost to

1291
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: Richmond in nineteen eight. I've grown up since then, I

1292
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: promise you.

1293
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

1294
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 8: Well, well, a little bit at least.

1295
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right, all right.

1296
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: Appreciated Steven. All right, guys, i'd Steven Holder joining us

1297
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: on the program when we come back. Numbers to give

1298
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: away two thir nine, ten seventy. Eddie's got the sounders.

1299
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: You've heard how we do it. You know how we

1300
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: do it. It's the game that sweeps the nation, the

1301
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: numbers game. I will read off for you right now,

1302
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: and then when we come back what numbers have already

1303
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: been selected. So if you are about to call in,

1304
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: do not pick one of these numbers. Eight thirteen, fourteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,

1305
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: twenty three, thirty thirty two, forty one, and forty four.

1306
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: Those are all gone. The rest of them are wide

1307
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: open and we'll give them out next. Eddie, do you

1308
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: remember back when Romeo Langford was in high school and

1309
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: it would be like this outside and guys in candy

1310
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: stripe pants would be lined up around high school gyms

1311
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: to wait for hist. Yeah, sure, dude, that's kind of

1312
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: what it looks like with the numbers.

1313
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: Game, right, that's a good one, people lined up all

1314
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: over the place.

1315
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: Evan is here from Cluster Truck, Eddie, which did you

1316
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: go with today?

1317
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 2: I went with the club Sandwich? Really? Yeah? Okay, you're

1318
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 2: going to start a club?

1319
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 9: Ah?

1320
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 8: Sure?

1321
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: Like Mitch Edburgh used to say, find a bunch of

1322
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: people that like the middle layer of bread and then

1323
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: a toothpick on it and start a club with it. Right,

1324
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: But everything is good at Cluster Truck Evan is here,

1325
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: and that means his club sandwich was made fresh, probably

1326
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes ago, right.

1327
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 10: Yep, yep, scheduled for one fifteen, made and finished right

1328
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 10: at one fifteen. So that's awesome. I don't know how

1329
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 10: they do that. It's a food marvel.

1330
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: It is awesome. Everything literally, you guys have everything, right.

1331
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, pizzata, pad tie, tacos, mac and cheese,

1332
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 10: club sandwich, which I haven't ever had personally, but I've

1333
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 10: heard good things, raps burritos. If you're craving at Cluster

1334
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 10: Truck's probably got.

1335
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: It and people can get it in terms of the

1336
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: availability of it with of course fresh kitchens around town.

1337
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: How win and where oh.

1338
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, cluster truck dot com or you could download the app.

1339
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 10: You could use code big fan get five dollars off.

1340
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 10: And we actually just opened the location up North and

1341
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 10: Carmel like two weeks ago at the end of February,

1342
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 10: so serving even more people.

1343
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: Now, how late does it go?

1344
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 10: Downtown Indie Kitchen goes until ten pm through the week,

1345
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 10: eleven pm on the weekends, broader Pool I think ten

1346
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 10: pm every night, and then Castleton and Carmel kitchens open

1347
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 10: until nine awesome.

1348
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: Right, do we have like a special bundle that we're

1349
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 2: doing like a food tournament? What do we got going on?

1350
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 10: Hey, thank you for teeing that up so perfectly. That's

1351
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 10: like the allue dunk Fest Special thirty nine ninety nine.

1352
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 10: Every tournament game day it is available two pounds of

1353
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 10: chicken strips and dips, churros, chips and queso and cheesy bread,

1354
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 10: all for thirty nine to ninety nine everything dunkable dunk

1355
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 10: Fest Special.

1356
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: It's pretty awesome.

1357
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty good deal. Like Florida, Florida.

1358
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: Was it Florida Gulf Coast?

1359
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: Yep?

1360
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: I was that was lob you or Dunky?

1361
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1362
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 2: All right?

1363
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: You would like a number?

1364
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: Is this correct?

1365
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 10: I would like a number.

1366
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: Didn't your dad get a number a couple of years ago?

1367
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 10: I think that's right? Yeah, maybe last year?

1368
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 2: All right?

1369
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: What number would you like?

1370
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1371
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 10: I heard on the way in all the ones that

1372
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 10: are taken, mine was not taken. Number two.

1373
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: Please number two, Eddie.

1374
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 4: I like that.

1375
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 10: I'm okay, I'm okay with that.

1376
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: That's sixth seed in the Midwest. They're kind of a

1377
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: sneaky one, right.

1378
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, So what who do they play first? I have

1379
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 10: them at Virginia in the second round.

1380
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: They have the winner. I think of s MU and Miami.

1381
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 10: That sucks. I'm a Mac fan, but yeah, I have

1382
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 10: them advancing in my bracket. I think playing Virginia. Hopefully

1383
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 10: they can get past that game too.

1384
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: Virginia.

1385
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: As I was telling Eddie, Virginia is the one that

1386
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: you're like, really, Virginia is like twenty Okay, I've not

1387
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: heard the thing about them all year. Yep, yep, all right, Eddie.

1388
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: We got callers lined up.

1389
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jake, we got them all lined up and

1390
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: lighting them up over there.

1391
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 1: You know what you've been doing, working up an appetite

1392
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: for that club sandwich love.

1393
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 2: That's right, with.

1394
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: All the drops and everything you do. All right here, Evan,

1395
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: you're going to get to see right here, what is

1396
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: truly if you want to talk about radio mediocrity, the numbers.

1397
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 10: Game right here as we do it right, numbers game

1398
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 10: is good.

1399
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: All right, Randy is up, Randy? What number would you like?

1400
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: Number one? Please?

1401
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,560
Speaker 1: Right out of the box, Randy, Randy, just out of curiosity,

1402
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: are you a native to Indianapolis, Satawa, Saint Louis?

1403
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: Are you a Billicans fan?

1404
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 4: I like the Bullicans when they had a hockey team.

1405
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: Okay, well, listen, if you ever go out east. I

1406
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 1: believe this school is based out east. I think Long Island.

1407
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Hofstra is gone. The number thirteen

1408
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: seed in the Midwest. Keep in mind, blow out by

1409
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: the largest margin, also wins a prize. Alec is up next.

1410
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: This is Eddie's only friend, Alec, who has won this

1411
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: thing like seventeen times. Alec, what number would you like?

1412
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 11: We're going to run act with forty three?

1413
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: Number forty three for al for Alec. All right, Eddie,

1414
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: go ahead.

1415
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: Alec.

1416
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: You have what many think might be the best player

1417
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: in the draft. I think he's the second best, the

1418
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 1: fourth seed in the East of Kansas Jayhawks for Alec.

1419
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: Eric is our next caller, Eric, how are we doing?

1420
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 4: Great? Jake?

1421
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 8: How are you doing?

1422
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm doing? Okay, Erica? How old a

1423
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: fella are you?

1424
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 12: I have?

1425
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 8: Fifty five years old?

1426
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 6: Oh?

1427
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: Really? High school graduating class eighty nine?

1428
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1429
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 11: That is correct?

1430
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: Now?

1431
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: Eric, I'd like to give a disclaimer, and by no

1432
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: means do I mean it as disparaging to our future callers.

1433
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: But because you asked the question, I'm going to place

1434
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: on you a great responsibility.

1435
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: Here, Eric, are you okay with that?

1436
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,799
Speaker 8: I'm up for the challenge.

1437
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 13: Okay.

1438
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: The responsibility I'm going to place on you is I'm

1439
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: going to allow your question of how's Jake doing to

1440
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: be all encompassing, therefore alleviating the necessity of that for

1441
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: future callers to let everybody know I'm doing fine. Thanks,

1442
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: and I appreciate the asking. And it's a rhetorical thing

1443
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: that people do to be folksy, which I get. But

1444
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: for the sake of being concise, which is not a

1445
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,879
Speaker 1: strong suit of mine, that's what I'll give the disclaimer.

1446
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: All right, Eric, what number would you like?

1447
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 14: Nineteen?

1448
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: Number nineteen? All right, Eric, Number nineteen is off the board.

1449
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: Eddie there, Eddy. Eddie gives the thumbs down. He was

1450
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: fired up to have the sounder of a horned frog.

1451
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna play a horn a

1452
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: frog or just a horny frog. But Eric, get away.

1453
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: TCU is off the board. They are the nine seed

1454
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: out of the east, up next to Brandon. Brandon, you're

1455
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: on the air. Let's go with number twelve, Sir Brandon.

1456
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: I like it. You got right to it. You're Steve

1457
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: Alfred Fan. Are you Brandon? I am?

1458
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 1: What side of town are you from?

1459
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 2: Brandon Susside?

1460
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 8: I went to Indian Greek High School?

1461
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 2: Okay?

1462
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: Well, actually up on the river side Fisher's High School.

1463
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: There's a kid named Samederman. Really good dude. Used to

1464
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: work at Lifetime Fitness. He started the radio program at

1465
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: Fisher's High School. He is now the play by play

1466
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: voice of the fourteen Seed in the East and he

1467
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: will be calling out the action for your team, North

1468
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: Dakota State, North Dakota State. Phil up next, Hi, Phil,

1469
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: what number you need doing today?

1470
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 2: Let's go concise.

1471
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 4: Fifty seven.

1472
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: Fifty seven is fifty seven older or younger than you are?

1473
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 2: Phil?

1474
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 4: Fifty seven is the birth year?

1475
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 2: Oh really?

1476
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: Okay, so that puts you in the high school graduating

1477
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 1: class sometime around seventy five, is that right?

1478
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 4: Askat exactly? Just at our fiftieth anniversary at Bishop Shutar

1479
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 4: in this fastball.

1480
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: So did you just out of curiosity you d have

1481
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: a bunch of muscle cars up and down Kestler hanging

1482
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: out at like you know, the mouse trap or something

1483
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: like that.

1484
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 4: Well, I used to own a seventy one Chavelle. Hell yeah,

1485
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 4: reel seven and to my brother got a hold of

1486
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 4: it and put it at three ninety six in it.

1487
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,799
Speaker 4: Now it's a piece of junk somewhere.

1488
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: Okay, well listen, I'll tell you what's not a piece

1489
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 1: of junk, and that is the team that you got.

1490
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 1: Because number fifty seven, Eddie, that was awesome.

1491
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 2: I got to think on this. That was an old

1492
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 2: ESPN commercial and Arnold Palmer making an Arnold Palmer.

1493
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: And Arnold Palmer making an Arnold Palmer.

1494
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 2: I can't remember why we used that last year, but

1495
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: it was the same one that week.

1496
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: But now an Arnold Palmer iced tea can be found

1497
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Is that what you're saying? I think so

1498
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: not bad, not bad at all. In fact, Arizona the

1499
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: number one seed in the West and minis picked to win.

1500
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 1: It is now Phills Drew is up next. Hi, Drew, Hello,

1501
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: number seventeen.

1502
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: Drew.

1503
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: You're a man A few words, aren't you? Seventeen has taken?

1504
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 2: Drew? Give me another number?

1505
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 6: Was it.

1506
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 2: Eighteen or nineteen when I was right around there? Then?

1507
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 1: Now, now, Drew, I'm going to read off the numbers

1508
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: that are taking. I need you to pay attention this time.

1509
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: You ready one, two, eight, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,

1510
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: twenty three, thirty, thirty two, forty one, forty three, forty four,

1511
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: and fifty seven any other number and you can have it.

1512
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,520
Speaker 2: Give me one twenty.

1513
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: Number twenty uh Drew, Listen, your patience is well rewarded

1514
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: here by the fact you got Prairie View, A and M.

1515
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: Keep in mind biggest blowout. Also whin they're the sixteen

1516
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: seed and the South playing tonight in Dayton. Charles up next,

1517
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: flesh out about five more here, Charles?

1518
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 2: How are you, Jake? I am fine? How are you now?

1519
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: Charles? I already answered this question, but I appreciate you asking.

1520
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 1: I'm still fine. I'm as fine as I was when

1521
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: I can't remember who it was earlier, asked, But I'm

1522
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: still doing well.

1523
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 2: Thank you? Awesome. What number would you lect? You? Anybody

1524
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 2: ever call you? Chuck? Yep? Okay?

1525
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: What number would you like? Can I call you Chuck?

1526
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: You already have no I asked, I asked permission, Chuck,

1527
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: But now I'm just gonna take it now.

1528
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. What number would you.

1529
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: Like, Charles?

1530
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 2: Jake, guy would like number ten?

1531
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: Number ten, Charles, I love it, buddy. Here's a trivia

1532
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 1: question for you. Have you listened to this program before

1533
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: many times?

1534
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 4: First time?

1535
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 8: Long time?

1536
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate that there's a guy that coaches out

1537
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: West that I serendipitously met at the Final four. I've

1538
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: gone out and visited his campus and found out that

1539
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: his mom lives in Southport and his dad coached and Anderson,

1540
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: And he's been on the show twice and I think

1541
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: he's a heck of a coach. He's won seventy percent

1542
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: of his games and like five hundred and fifty games

1543
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 1: in his career. Do you know what school I'm talking about?

1544
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely not?

1545
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: Okay, that is Saint Mary's the seventh seed in the

1546
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: South for Charles, they're the Gails, right, yes.

1547
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 2: Oh this is perfect for today, right, it's the Gails.

1548
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 2: Are the people that traveled from Ireland to Scotland?

1549
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: Are they really?

1550
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 2: You know?

1551
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 3: I left it her I got tired of the Saint

1552
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 3: Patrick's Day instead of going there to Edinburgh.

1553
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: All right, Mattee no one number.

1554
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,520
Speaker 8: Oh, let's go fifty four.

1555
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 1: Fifty four for Matt Ooh, here we go, Eddie, go

1556
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: ahead with fifty four for Matt Hujah State is off

1557
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: the board. That could have gone for Brigham Young. Also,

1558
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: just so you know, Eddie in case we use it twice, Mike,

1559
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna be our penultimate caller of this fabulous award

1560
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: winning soon to be Marconi's sending segment.

1561
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: Mike, what number would you like?

1562
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 8: Let's go with twenty two?

1563
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: Mike Cawlderfella, are you if you don't mind me asking?

1564
01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: We're doing a little market research here.

1565
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 14: I'll be fifty one Sunday?

1566
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 1: Oh, well, happy birthday, Mike. What'd you do this time

1567
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 1: of year ago to celebrate your fiftieth.

1568
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 2: My wife who a really good party at my house? Actually, okay,

1569
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: that's cool.

1570
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 1: And so now that you're you know, older and maybe

1571
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more patient individual, what do you think

1572
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: of the Numbers game? By the way, do you find

1573
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: it with the same raging enthusiasm as a ten year old?

1574
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: Oh? I think it's fantastic. Sure, Okay.

1575
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: Would you have thought that at the age of forty nine?

1576
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 8: Probably not?

1577
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 2: Did you say twenty one or twenty two? Twenty two? Please?

1578
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: Did you ever hear that song Mike when you would

1579
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 1: have been I'm going to guess you're probably in your

1580
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 1: mid teens. There was a song short people. You ever

1581
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: heard that song? Short? Okay, well that would be hitt

1582
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: number one. Hit number two would be this U no.

1583
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: Day you are here?

1584
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 12: You are Come on, dude, yes you were. Everybody's standing

1585
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 12: here listening to you. Everybody this is on camera, they

1586
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 12: can hear you. I answered the question. I could give

1587
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 12: a ret's ask about the other team standing section?

1588
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: Okay, do you know what short guy that is?

1589
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 2: Mike?

1590
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 8: I have no idea.

1591
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: That's Mick Cronin of UCLA. You got the Bruins, the

1592
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: seventh seed out of the East. All Right, Carl will

1593
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: mercifully save.

1594
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: Us with this? Hi Carl?

1595
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: Okay, now, Carl are you laughing at and to be honest,

1596
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: are you laughing out of sympathy? I mean you can

1597
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: be honest with me here.

1598
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 14: No, No, love the show, just love everything about it,

1599
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 14: love the last bit. So anyway, No, I'm enthusias Listen

1600
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 14: to the all the time.

1601
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: Carl, listen. Thank you for making a promo for us.

1602
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: We'll be playing you seventeen times a week from here forward.

1603
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: What number would you like?

1604
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:52,759
Speaker 13: Carl?

1605
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 4: Is twenty one available?

1606
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: Twenty one is not available? Do you want twenty one?

1607
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: One it's available, or twenty one is available? I mean

1608
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 1: twenty one has not been taken. I mean, do you

1609
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: want twenty one?

1610
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 4: Carl?

1611
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 6: Sure?

1612
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 2: Are you sure you want twenty one?

1613
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 8: I am sure?

1614
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Well you said it, all right, Carl.

1615
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 2: This school? You ever do your own laundry?

1616
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 4: Carl?

1617
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 14: Jeff every other day?

1618
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 2: Did you do your.

1619
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: Laundry when you were in car? Every other day? What

1620
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: do you how many outfits you wear today?

1621
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: Carl?

1622
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity, how's the run to work?

1623
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 13: Carl?

1624
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: This school actually allegedly has laundry service, full dry cleaning,

1625
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: laundry service for its students in the dormitory. Here we

1626
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: go for this school. See if you can figure it out?

1627
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 5: All right?

1628
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: Hell, that would be high point, which perfectly fitting for

1629
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 1: Jeff's McCaulay, who, by the way, I'm guessing does not

1630
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: do his laundry every other day. That's how we do

1631
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 1: the numbers game. We'll do it again and bottom of

1632
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: the two o'clock hour. Scott Agnes talking little pacers in fifteen. Now,

1633
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: I try not to be a self conscious individual, right,

1634
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: I try to be somebody that has like a level

1635
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: of confidence about me, right, And yet I'm not gonna

1636
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: lie to you. We go through that segment, which I

1637
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: love the Numbers game. I love everything about it. Right,

1638
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, we get done with it. And as soon

1639
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 1: as we get done with it, I get a message.

1640
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: Shannon's on her way back from the airport from picking

1641
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 1: up her niece Riley and Riley's boyfriend Dylan. They're in

1642
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: town for Pacers and action tonight, right, taking.

1643
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 2: On the Knicks. Is it? Yes?

1644
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm sorry. They're going to the game.

1645
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: I guess it's tomorrow. Is it tomorrow night?

1646
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, tomorrow and tomorrow.

1647
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: So they're going to the game tomorrow night. When do

1648
01:24:58,760 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: they take on New York?

1649
01:24:59,560 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: What am I think?

1650
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 8: Tonight?

1651
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 4: York?

1652
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:02,759
Speaker 2: They play the next tonight or in New York tonight

1653
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 2: and in New York tonight?

1654
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, okay, nobody says segababa, by the way, but

1655
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 1: they're taking on the Blazer. So anyway, and this only

1656
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: furthers now to my insecurity, because you know they live

1657
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 1: in Denver. Denver has phenomenal sports talk radio stations. Now,

1658
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: they did have one station in Denver they tried to

1659
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: do that was nothing but Broncos conversation and that lasted

1660
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: like a year because people were like, you know, we

1661
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 1: can mix in the abs from time to time.

1662
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to say the hosts were going horse

1663
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: well played.

1664
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: So they got the Altitude Network out there, they got

1665
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: all kinds of great sports talk radio, and that's the barometer.

1666
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: And then she says, Oh, we're listening to you while

1667
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: we're driving from the airport back towards you, which is

1668
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 1: like a thirty minute drive, and I'm thinking to myself,

1669
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: and that's what they heard. That's what they heard. Hey, kids,

1670
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: how was the trip to Denver?

1671
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

1672
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: It was great, except for that aunt Shannon's boyfriend was

1673
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: on the radio, and that guy's a mora on. I mean,

1674
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: don't you think that's probably what they're thinking?

1675
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: Now? Did she text you, You're like, when does jamb

1676
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:07,719
Speaker 2: come on? Yes?

1677
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: She turned it on actually and said I thought John

1678
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: starts at one. No, it's at three. Oh, okay, Scott

1679
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: Agne is going to join us. Coming up just a second.

1680
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 1: We will talk about that PACER's next matchup, because the

1681
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: injury list is unbelievable. And again one of the things

1682
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: that is and I understand it. I understand from the

1683
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: Pacers standpoint, this is kind of like a gap year.

1684
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: And I said this last week, and I don't remember

1685
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: if I said it on the radio or when I

1686
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: was at the game, So my apologies if I'm repeating,

1687
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 1: But we automatically assume that a Coach of the Year

1688
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: recipient receives that honor because they have gotten the most

1689
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: out of their team, or they haverilliantly figured out x's

1690
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: and o's, or they have done a number of things

1691
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: to be advantageous to their franchise towards the better. And

1692
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, they a team that was expected to win

1693
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 1: thirty five games and won fifty five, or a team

1694
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: that had a key injury and they rebounded from that

1695
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: and massaged a different lineup and still made the playoffs,

1696
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. Usually it's a team that's

1697
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: had a season that exceeded expectation that leads to Coach

1698
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: of the Year. And there are some coaches that frankly

1699
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: don't get Coach of the Year or executives that don't

1700
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: get Executive of the Year because they have set their

1701
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: own standard where it's like, well, yeah, I mean, that's

1702
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do. That's why they're Eric Spolstra,

1703
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: for example, and I think he's probably one coach of

1704
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: the year, but Rick Carlisle this year, and I'm not

1705
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: saying this to Kurry Favor. I'm not saying it. Do

1706
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: you Eddie, let me ask you. Do you see a

1707
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: bucket layer around here?

1708
01:27:58,840 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 4: No?

1709
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because I in anybody's water and throwing right right.

1710
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: But the reality is in its weird and a weird

1711
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 1: form in a weird way. Rick Carlisle should get merit,

1712
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: get thought and merit's conversation, maybe not to win it,

1713
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: but as a tribute and a coach of the year way.

1714
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: Because when Tyre's Haliburton went down, fine, I thought they

1715
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: were still going to win forty five games. But then

1716
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, when you have Top

1717
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: and break his foot or fracture it. You have Nie

1718
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: Smith with the shoulder, which was.

1719
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: Legitimatenim Hard was also.

1720
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: Nim Hard was hurt, so you automatically were down literally

1721
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: four key pieces. Then you had Siakam that you've got

1722
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 1: to still kind of maintain the tread on those tires,

1723
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: and you knew, okay, we went all in on being

1724
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: legitimate and being the respectable nightly foe and opponent for

1725
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: the integrity of the game at the beginning of the year,

1726
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: and the basketball gods continued to deliver bad karma and

1727
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: bad maybe not bad karma, bad luck. So once you

1728
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: cross the bridge of realizing, look the odds of us

1729
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 1: putting this together towards being a playoff level team or

1730
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 1: out the window, that's when your gap year begins, and

1731
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: then it becomes about, Okay, if I'm the coach of

1732
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: this team, if I'm an integral part of the executive

1733
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 1: level of this franchise, I've got to look at beyond

1734
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 1: just maintaining competitiveness for this year and instead figure out

1735
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: and tweak what players are out there that we can

1736
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: take advantage of this opportunity to develop them and see

1737
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: who they can be to give us insurance policy once

1738
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 1: everybody's back, and how do we do that in a

1739
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: way that he keeps us in the running towards still

1740
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 1: being able to hold onto that top four pick so

1741
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: that we don't lose that to Los Angeles after the trade,

1742
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:12,560
Speaker 1: and the fact that it's conditional while being a still interesting,

1743
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 1: be competitive, but more importantly to go into it and say,

1744
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,839
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that Micah Potter is getting

1745
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: legitimate minutes. I want to make sure that Taylon Peter

1746
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: and Jeris Walker and Quinton Jackson are getting legitimate minutes

1747
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: and even Ethan Thompson, guys that you may not be

1748
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: thinking about putting on your roster, but if you truly

1749
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: want to find out who they are, then you put

1750
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: them in situations that replicate an actual competitive NBA game.

1751
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: And so to do that, you have to come up

1752
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: with combinations that lead and force Boston and Chicago and

1753
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: New York and Philadelphia into having their starting players on

1754
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: the floor in the third and fourth quarter. Because the

1755
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 1: games are still not absolutely a slam duncan, they're somewhat

1756
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: in jeopardy. So you're forcing those other teams to stay

1757
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 1: on the accelerator, thus creating legitimate and translatable scenarios for

1758
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: guys where you can truly assess it even though you're

1759
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 1: not trying to get to win, you're simply trying to learn.

1760
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: And the ability to massage those two things and still

1761
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: progress forward, still have seventeen to eighteen thousand down there

1762
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 1: every night, and still hold on to that top four

1763
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: pick potentially and land yourself Ato Banza or a Boozer

1764
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: or even a Peterson is remarkable and it takes a

1765
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: ton of creative thinking. I think it's remarkable more numbers

1766
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: to give away Scott Agnes Next. By the way, if

1767
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: if the tournament were to begin today with Saint Patrick's Day,

1768
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: you know it used to be when Notre Dame would

1769
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: play on Saint Patrick Date. It was like a huge deal.

1770
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, who in the world wants to

1771
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 1: play them on Saint Patrick's Day?

1772
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 2: Right? The whole place is green?

1773
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: I think one you're the Celtics were here against the

1774
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: Pacers on Saint Patrick's Day and it's like, what are

1775
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: we doing here?

1776
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 2: Right?

1777
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 1: What school would have the most mojo based on playing

1778
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 1: on Saint Patrick's Day?

1779
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 2: That's a great question.

1780
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: There's North Texas is not in right, they're there, the

1781
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: mean green the Tulane is the I think that the waves,

1782
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: but the green waves. Maybe you would see Greensboro is

1783
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 1: not in right, they'd be likely, you would have to think.

1784
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know how many Hawaii they're they're green, right.

1785
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 2: They're the what the rainbow the warriors Greenbow Warriors, but

1786
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 2: they've got gret I think they wear.

1787
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's a it's a darker green. No, it's

1788
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: not really a Kelly Green, But still is there one

1789
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm missing? People are probably yelling at the radio like, hey, moron.

1790
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean I just did Michigan stay that The Gaels were, Yeah,

1791
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 2: but the gals bolted though they're traders, right yeah, Michigan

1792
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: State obviously right. Yeah.

1793
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 1: Spartans, well, they're all green, and they were, but they

1794
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 1: were kind of a darker green, also true. What do

1795
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: you think is the most non non Penn Vanderbilt Duke Division,

1796
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,879
Speaker 1: what's the most prestigious school in the NCAA tournament?

1797
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 2: Non Penn.

1798
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Penn is an IVY league, so that goes

1799
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: without saying. Duke and Vanderbilt are extremely elite private institutions.

1800
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Outside of that, what would it be? Oh, Virginia. Probably

1801
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Virginia is a really good school.

1802
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 2: I don't know an you think about cal Baptist, but

1803
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 2: that sounds like another hard school to get into, you think.

1804
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 1: So cal Baptist to me sounds like it's in a

1805
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 1: strip ball right, It's like an academy, a basketball academy started,

1806
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 1: Like if we look up cal Baptist, I'll bet it's

1807
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 1: if you look it up. And I'm in nothing against

1808
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 1: by any means, just because I've I've never heard of it.

1809
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: It's a small school, but like it wouldn't surprise me

1810
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: if it's one of those schools that open in twenty

1811
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: nineteen and it's next to pet Smart.

1812
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 2: That's what I could be wrong.

1813
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: Scott Agnes joins US now, and I'm sure thrilled to

1814
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: be doing so based on this segue. He's on the

1815
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line. Scott, what school jumps

1816
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: out to you as being the one that would have

1817
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 1: the most luck of the Irish on Saint Patrick's Day?

1818
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean they're not playing, but obviously Notre Dame.

1819
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 9: On what we see here locally in terms of bracket wise,

1820
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 9: that's hard to say.

1821
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 1: He's got green in it, doesn't it aren't They like

1822
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: green and orange UNBC Hawaii? Hawaii for sure?

1823
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 2: I mentioned Hawaii. Yep. Yeah.

1824
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: Now here's the other thing. And I'm being South Florida.

1825
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 2: There's one, oh South Florida. That's a good one.

1826
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1827
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 2: I've always thought this.

1828
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 1: If and I'm being serious, for what Duke the hardest

1829
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 1: college to get in bush? I said, non pen Duke

1830
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: or Vanderbilt Division, Virginia. I think Hawaii, Scott would be

1831
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:08,759
Speaker 1: the hardest school to recruit towards. And the reason being,

1832
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: and I'm being serious when I say this, the when

1833
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: you do on campus visits. How in the world if

1834
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: your University of Hawaii, would you know whether or not

1835
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 1: a player is legitimately interested in your school because he

1836
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: schedules an on campus visit. Wouldn't everyone schedule an on

1837
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 1: campus visit.

1838
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 9: It goes back to I think what you've tweeted or

1839
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 9: talked about several times about where you visit or where

1840
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 9: you start your school versus where you finish in the

1841
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 9: thoughts behind that. But you're right, Yeah, if you're a

1842
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 9: highly recruited player or even mediocre and Hawaii's interested, I

1843
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 9: think I'm taking my first one there to get it

1844
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 9: over with.

1845
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: I went to high school with Derek May's. I've told

1846
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 1: this story before. Derek's a year below me, but as

1847
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Derek also Scott. But I remember

1848
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 1: when we were in high school, Derek Mays wanted to

1849
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 1: make his official visits. He was you know, we didn't

1850
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: have com back then, but I think it's safe to

1851
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: say that Derek was widely regarded as the number one

1852
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver prospect in the country. Or one of them,

1853
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: as evidenced by the fact that he went to Notre

1854
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 1: Dame and became their all time leading receiver. But if

1855
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: I recall correctly, the four schools that he wanted to

1856
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 1: do for his official in home visits or excuse me

1857
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: on campus visits where Notre Dame, Penn State, Alabama, and Hawaii,

1858
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,759
Speaker 1: and his dad interfered. His dad stepped in and said, look,

1859
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 1: you can't make this visit unless you are legitimately. You

1860
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 1: can't do that to them. It's dishonest. So he did

1861
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: not visit it, but he discussed.

1862
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 2: It all right.

1863
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 13: I thought UCLA was going to be on that list

1864
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 13: as well.

1865
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: Oh, man, have you been on that campus. That's an

1866
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: a brief that's an elite university by the way, So

1867
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 1: that would be that that campus. You walk on that

1868
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 1: campus one time and you're like, sign me up?

1869
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 2: What do I do? Where do I go?

1870
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 9: You can totally understand why Tenants lacks at basketball games. Yeah,

1871
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 9: I got plenty of other options. Before you get to

1872
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 9: the basketball court.

1873
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: You walk from your dorm to the basketball game and

1874
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: it's seventy two and out, and nine different people invite

1875
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: you into a you know, frisbee golf competition. I mean

1876
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. Yeah, I mean, come on, man, like no question.

1877
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 1: Speaking of basketball in general, Pacers and Action. Tonight they're

1878
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: in New York and then they're back here tomorrow night

1879
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: taking on Portland and Scott. I'm gonna begin with this,

1880
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 1: where do we stand here in terms of And I

1881
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 1: know I asked you this last week, but if you

1882
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: look at basically every player on the roster is in

1883
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 1: some way listed on the injury report, but which one

1884
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: of these are legitimate? Like, hey, this guy needs time

1885
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: to get his body right?

1886
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean set reality is many of them have

1887
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 9: a variety of things. But like TJ McConnell, I think

1888
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 9: about his hamstring Jake, It's been something he's dealt with

1889
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 9: since Game one of the preseason, all the way back there,

1890
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 9: So that one definitely concerns me, especially given his age

1891
01:37:56,160 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 9: for being a basketball player with all that coming off

1892
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 9: an injury. Still, I think that one's something you're absolutely

1893
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 9: always monitoring as he's trying to get back to one

1894
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 9: hundred percent. And then probably I would throw Quentin Jackson

1895
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 9: there as well, after he suffered that calf strain last week.

1896
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 9: So those are the ones more than any of them.

1897
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm watching closely, I think, and I know that we've

1898
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 1: talked about this before, Scott, but I wanted you to

1899
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 1: kind of piggyback on what I just talked about. I

1900
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: think one of the brilliant things that Rick Carlisle has

1901
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 1: done with this group is managed to kind of masterfully

1902
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 1: massage the minutes once you knew the year was a wash.

1903
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: It's one thing they could have easily said, We're going

1904
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 1: with Taylon Peter, Ethan Thompson, Micah Potter, you know, insert

1905
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 1: name of whoever else for the rest of the year

1906
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: and just play those guys all the time, and you

1907
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 1: could say, yeah, I mean, they're getting quality minutes, but

1908
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: if they're in games where they're down thirty, how much

1909
01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 1: are they really seeing? But using nim Hart, using Siaka,

1910
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 1: using Jaris Walker, who's really grown, and you know, the

1911
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 1: guys that we know are going to be mainstays once

1912
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 1: everyone's healthy, using those guys to keep game, keep games competitive,

1913
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: and then forcing those other players to have to play

1914
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 1: in minutes where the other team is not backing off,

1915
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 1: that to me is a stroke of genius. Has that

1916
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:25,839
Speaker 1: benefited the development of those players?

1917
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 9: I think so? But The biggest thing has just been

1918
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,719
Speaker 9: those guys getting minutes, you know, getting that opportunity, getting

1919
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 9: the game reps where ordinarily they would not be able

1920
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 9: to the main thing right now that Rick's having to

1921
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 9: massage a little bit is the availability of some of

1922
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 9: the two way guys, because those players are restricted to

1923
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,679
Speaker 9: fifty games of being active, so they can be active

1924
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 9: and not play and it still counts a strike against you.

1925
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 9: And so that's why fans, if you're watching the bench

1926
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 9: and you know Ethan Thompson wasn't available last game, that's

1927
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 9: why is they're trying to get to the finish line

1928
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 9: with those three players and their availability. They can be

1929
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 9: available for like most of them, the rest of the way,

1930
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 9: but not the entire thing. And so what we've seen

1931
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 9: is good starts from this group. We've seen them take

1932
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 9: leads early in games, the middle two quarters aren't so great.

1933
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 9: They might fight back in the third quarter, and then

1934
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 9: that fourth quarter they usually turn it over to those

1935
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 9: other guys, where, yeah, these other teams need wins like

1936
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 9: the Knicks. They need these wins, and so they can't

1937
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 9: take it for granted. So a lot of the stars

1938
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 9: will be out there.

1939
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: Scott, who's the best team right now in your opinion, Yeah,

1940
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 1: I best team in the league and best team.

1941
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 2: In the East.

1942
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1943
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 9: Overall, I'd still go with the Thunder just with their experience,

1944
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 9: their depth. They have the best player playing right now

1945
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 9: with SGA, certainly, although the Spurs have been all over

1946
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 9: them this season, so that would be the one thing

1947
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 9: that makes me nervous if I'm them. On the East side,

1948
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 9: the Pistons have the wins and statistically are the best team,

1949
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 9: but I now that Tatum is back and the way

1950
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 9: Brown has been playing certain put himself on that MVP conversation, Jake,

1951
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 9: I'd probably pick Boston still out of the East.

1952
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 1: Could we learn anything from Jason Tatum's ability to go

1953
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 1: out there and play and play at a high level.

1954
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Is the movement and the style of play for Tatum

1955
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 1: analogous enough to what Halliburton has to do as a

1956
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: player to be able to make comparison, even though every

1957
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 1: Achilles is different.

1958
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think you can learn a lot

1959
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 9: from him. From Dejonte Murray on the other side, you

1960
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 9: can look from within, right, you had Isaiah Jackson, you

1961
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 9: had James Wiseman. Now those are bigs who rely on

1962
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 9: speed a lot less, but they too came back from

1963
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,600
Speaker 9: Achilles and had the same exact doctor as well, so

1964
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 9: that's informative here. But Tatum's about six weeks ahead of Halliburton.

1965
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 9: Those two have been in touch throughout this process. And

1966
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 9: the thing I really enjoyed Jake is seeing those guys

1967
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 9: and this is even public, so who knows what they're

1968
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 9: saying and sharing pub privately. Is how encouraging. How that's

1969
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 9: become a fraternity. Not a good thing, but those guys

1970
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 9: that have been through these Akielles injuries are now supporting

1971
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 9: one another and because only they know of what they've

1972
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 9: gone through. And so to see Tatum come back and

1973
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 9: basically average twenty points per game while playing a high

1974
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 9: volume in minutes I'm talking about like thirty plus minutes

1975
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 9: per game, I think that's really encouraging. Because Tyrese is

1976
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 9: going to have significantly more of an off season to

1977
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 9: get back up to speed and build the confidence. But

1978
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 9: at this point for Tatum and probably getting there for

1979
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 9: ty Rees, Jake is more than anything about the mental

1980
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 9: side of all this and trusting your body and trusting

1981
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 9: your instincts in the way in which you move on the.

1982
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:36,600
Speaker 1: Floor, Scott Agnus is our guest. He is on the

1983
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 1: Java House Cold Brew Coffee guest line. Of course, you

1984
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 1: can always read his work at Fieldhouse files dot com. Scott,

1985
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 1: have you heard? I have not, and so I don't

1986
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:50,600
Speaker 1: know if you have any update at all on Halliburton.

1987
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: Just you know, the last that we knew he had

1988
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: been diagnosed with shingles, he was going to be away

1989
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: from the team from a few weeks that In talking

1990
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 1: to Ralph Reef, you know, he was saying, Hey, it's

1991
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: not like the shingles goes down to the Achilles per se,

1992
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: but that's that much more rigor on your body in

1993
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 1: a recovery period. Have you heard any update on just

1994
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 1: how Haliburton is.

1995
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's doing better. He was on the last trip

1996
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 9: with the team. While I didn't see him on the bench,

1997
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 9: he was there. And so the fact that he's traveling

1998
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 9: and back with the group after being away for a

1999
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 9: little less than a month, I think I think that's encouraging.

2000
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 9: But yeah, like Ralph suggested, he obviously knows way more

2001
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 9: in this area. Is that does raise a little bit

2002
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 9: of concerns because the additional strain that it puts while

2003
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 9: your body's just in complete repair mode essentially for the

2004
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 9: last eight plus months. Again, though he's going to have

2005
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 9: all off season, more of an off season than he's

2006
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 9: probably ever had in his life, to make sure everything

2007
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 9: is on track and doing just fine. So no reason

2008
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:49,719
Speaker 9: for concern.

2009
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 2: I don't think Scott Alexa Philippoo of ESPN has been

2010
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 2: all over the contract or not contract, but CBA negotiations

2011
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 2: between the Players Association, the WNBA, and the league itself.

2012
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 2: We're starting to enter the danger zone now because they

2013
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 2: put the timeline a week ago today on when they

2014
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 2: felt like they needed to have something agreed upon to

2015
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 2: not delay the start of the season or any of

2016
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 2: the off season things that have to get done. Where

2017
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 2: do things stand right now in those CBA negotiations.

2018
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's interesting how oftentimes these deadlines spur action. It's

2019
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 9: certainly spurred movement with these conversations as fans may be

2020
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 9: reading about right that the league and owner or League

2021
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 9: Commissioner Kathy Engelberg, along with players representatives, which includes Brianna

2022
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 9: Turner of the Indiana Fever, still out there and negotiating

2023
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 9: and hashing out these conversations. But to me, it's great

2024
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 9: that these are happening. But I'm like, could we not

2025
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 9: have done this and felt this urgency a month ago

2026
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 9: so that we wouldn't be up against the clock here?

2027
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 9: And I think it's encouraging that these conversations are ongoing.

2028
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 9: They're going three and four in the morning, and both

2029
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 9: sides seem to be optimistic about the way and how

2030
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 9: they have felt in the direction they are going. But

2031
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 9: you're definitely at crunch time right now because there is

2032
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 9: so much they got to knock out. Once a deal

2033
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 9: is agreed upon, it's going to take lawyers presumably ten

2034
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 9: days two weeks to hash out. Then you need, you know,

2035
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 9: expansion draft because two teams have zero players right now.

2036
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 9: But right now, the number one sticking point is and

2037
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:26,640
Speaker 9: continues to believe be I believe, is the percentage of

2038
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 9: the revenue share, and the owner ownership and commissioner league

2039
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 9: side of things wants to do it based on net

2040
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 9: based on you know, how much profit they turn versus

2041
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 9: the players union is trying to negotiate to do it

2042
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 9: on gross, on on how big the league has become

2043
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 9: even without expenses. And I think that's kind of that

2044
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 9: last sticking point. Once they get that done, I think

2045
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 9: everything else can fall in line and there can be

2046
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 9: some give and take.

2047
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 1: Scott, I, you know, for a long time, I know

2048
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: that the and by the way, folks, we're going to

2049
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 1: do the numbers game here in just a second if

2050
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 1: you want to start lining up two, nine, ten, seventy, Scott,

2051
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: I know that the you know, the NBA for a

2052
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: long time was subsidizing the WNBA. I mean, each of

2053
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 1: the teams had an NBA partner and that's where the

2054
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 1: money was coming from, you know. And look at the

2055
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 1: case with the Fever, I mean they're still owned by

2056
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 1: Pacer Sports and Entertainment. So is there, in fact are

2057
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:22,759
Speaker 1: there franchises? Are there none of them that are getting

2058
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: basically supplied monetarily by the NBA. Are they essentially even

2059
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 1: if they're under the same ownership, financially having to stand

2060
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: on their own.

2061
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 9: So yeah, there are there are a few franchises that

2062
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 9: are not owned by NBA ownership. But we've seen a

2063
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 9: clear indication here based on who has been awarded franchises

2064
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 9: recently and is going to get franchises. Is the league

2065
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 9: likes to have that synergy with ownership that have known

2066
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 9: the league, that they know their partners and what they

2067
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:52,759
Speaker 9: are about.

2068
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 2: But you're right.

2069
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 9: The number one issue in this whole thing has become

2070
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 9: the percentage of ownership and all this. And the challenge

2071
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 9: is the NBA owns forty two percent, the league owns

2072
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 9: forty two percent, and then about four years ago they

2073
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 9: raised I think it was seventy five million dollars. And

2074
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 9: for example, Herb Simon, PACER's owner, who is an NBA owner,

2075
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 9: is an a WNBA owner and now has ownership in there.

2076
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 9: He's got stake in all three of those. A few

2077
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 9: of them do. But that's why you're not talking and

2078
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 9: negotiating one hundred piece, one hundred percentage points of this

2079
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 9: pot here and complicates the negotiation. You can't do a

2080
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 9: fifty to fifty because the league doesn't even own fifty

2081
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 9: to fifty of the revenue.

2082
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 1: Scott agnesfield House Files, Java House, Colbrew Coffee, gas Line, Pacers, Knicks, Tonight,

2083
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: field House Files will have all the coverage than Pacers

2084
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 1: Blazers tomorrow at the field House. Appreciate it, Scott. Okay,

2085
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 1: thanks Jake got Agnes joining us on the program. All right,

2086
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:50,719
Speaker 1: back to give it away numbers. If you're not familiar

2087
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 1: with this, now here's the deal if you're on hold

2088
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,759
Speaker 1: right now. So Mike, Josh, Todd, Steve, Jared, pay attention.

2089
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 1: Here are the numbers that have been taken, meaning don't

2090
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 1: select these numbers that are already off the board. These

2091
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: are the numbers that are not available one, two, eight, ten, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty,

2092
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, thirty, thirty two, forty one,

2093
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 1: forty three, and forty four, fifty four, fifty seven. Those

2094
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 1: numbers are all off the board. We begin with Mike, Mike,

2095
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 1: what number would you like?

2096
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:32,679
Speaker 4: Lucky fifty one?

2097
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 1: Jake, I god right to it, no hesitation whatsoever. Mike, listen,

2098
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 1: who is your favorite NFL cult running back of the

2099
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: late eighties?

2100
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 4: Oh Dickerson, Late ladies.

2101
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson.

2102
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: Baby, do you know where he went to college?

2103
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 4: Out West Ucla?

2104
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 1: The riding ponies that got the death penalty and it

2105
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 1: was known as substantially messed up up back then. But

2106
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 1: for right now, the Mustang SMU.

2107
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 2: Off the board.

2108
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 1: See, that was a that was like the guy on

2109
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: Kessler that drove the muscle cars. Josh up next, Josh,

2110
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 1: what number twenty seven is there a significance to the

2111
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 1: number twenty seven, Josh.

2112
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 14: Just when I heard the number game, that was the

2113
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:26,719
Speaker 14: number that came to me at that moment.

2114
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 1: Do you listen to this program with any frequency?

2115
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 4: Josh, for the most part, when I can.

2116
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 1: Do you happen to know my non Indiana related college

2117
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: football team of choice.

2118
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 8: M clenson, Eddie, the.

2119
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Tigers of Clemson. Baby, they are the eight seed.

2120
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 2: In the South. Todd.

2121
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 1: Next on the board, Todd, what's.

2122
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 4: Up, heybody?

2123
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:58,679
Speaker 8: How are you today?

2124
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm good like that you call me buddy.

2125
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 2: I'd like to think that you and I are buddies. Todd.

2126
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 2: Have we met in real life?

2127
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 11: I believe we have, Sir, we have?

2128
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 2: Was I nice?

2129
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2130
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 2: You know?

2131
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 1: I asked a guy that on the air once and

2132
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:13,599
Speaker 1: he said I hit on his girlfriend. And I think

2133
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 1: that he had me as that was errand I don't

2134
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:16,879
Speaker 1: think that that's accurate.

2135
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with big And I don't know why

2136
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,719
Speaker 4: you just said a lot of numbers that were already taken,

2137
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 4: but fifty five stuck out.

2138
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 1: Fifty five for Todd. Where did I meet you, by

2139
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 1: the way, Todd?

2140
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 14: Oh, it was downtown several years ago.

2141
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 11: We were around all getting ready to go in the

2142
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 11: colts game.

2143
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 1: All right, that's cool. Santa Clara is off the board.

2144
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 1: Santa Clara, who I think actually could make some noise.

2145
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 1: We'll see if they are. I don't know what their

2146
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 1: seat I am looking right now. Ten seeds, so they

2147
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 1: got a shot to be the double digit seed to

2148
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:59,560
Speaker 1: go the furthest Matthew, Matthew, what number you want?

2149
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 13: How about fifty nine?

2150
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:06,640
Speaker 1: Fifty nine for Matthew Matthew. This school actually, and I

2151
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 1: always forget Roger Penske attended Pennsylvania School in Pennsylvania, and

2152
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 1: there are two schools like basically across the street from

2153
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 1: each other, Lafayette and Lehigh. I don't remember which one

2154
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:16,719
Speaker 1: of the two he went to, but if it's Lehigh,

2155
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: you got his alma mater. Because the sixteen seed in

2156
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 1: the East, Lehigh, who have pulled upsets before in the tournament.

2157
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 1: Off the board to Matthew. Casey Schwab, who, of course

2158
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 1: I believe is a Kansas fan, and if I'm not mistaken,

2159
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 1: was one of the participants in our Fantastic Fantasy Football League. Casey,

2160
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 1: what number you need?

2161
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 8: That's a stack. Let's just go with sixty eight.

2162
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 2: Sixty eight.

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01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 1: This school, Casey is one of the HBCUs that is

2164
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,839
Speaker 1: in the field, Howard University, and Howard is the sixteen

2165
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 1: seed in the Midwest. We'll go with two more, Stephen Jared.

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01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 1: We'll begin with Steve. Steve, what number would you like?

2167
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 4: Forty five?

2168
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 1: Forty five? Ooh, Steve, how old a fell?

2169
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 2: Are you?

2170
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: Fifty one? Fifty one? Do you happen to remember? You

2171
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 1: would have been in roughly the fourth grade. One of

2172
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 1: the biggest upsets in NCAA Final Four history, Patrick Ewing

2173
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 1: and his group in Lexington were defeated by this group

2174
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 1: when Harold Jensen went eight for eight from the field

2175
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 1: and Brent Musburger said, there will be no dynasty. Do

2176
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 1: you know what team it was that upset Georgetown?

2177
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:30,679
Speaker 2: No ideal?

2178
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: That would be Villanova, the eight seed in the West Villanova.

2179
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 1: Jared will round us out for this segment of it. Jared,

2180
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 1: how are you?

2181
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 4: Hey?

2182
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 1: You doing well?

2183
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 2: Jake? How are you? You know them? Okay?

2184
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: By the way, it's all it says on My thing

2185
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 1: is Jared.

2186
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 11: Oh.

2187
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 1: Now I'm not asking your last name, but you didn't

2188
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 1: happen to play basketball Indiana, did you?

2189
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:54,679
Speaker 2: I did not know not. Jared Odle.

2190
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 1: Good, good call there. By the way, how old a

2191
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:03,680
Speaker 1: fella are you, Jared thirty six, thirty six? How long

2192
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,720
Speaker 1: you've been listening to this program? Fifteen twenty minutes probably.

2193
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 11: Total, probably about ten years? But really you came on

2194
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 11: for sure?

2195
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 2: Okay? And have we met before?

2196
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 12: No?

2197
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 8: Uh?

2198
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 11: Brausberg grad though, actually was on Tucker Barnhardt's little league.

2199
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 11: We made it all the way to the regional final

2200
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 11: against Kentucky.

2201
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 1: I do remember that group now, and so you obviously

2202
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 1: could tell at that time he was pretty good.

2203
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 2: Right?

2204
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so was Storing? Your was Drew Storren? I

2205
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: know lance Lyn, Drew Store and Tucker Barnhardt. Were they

2206
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 1: all the same class? I can't remember? Or were they

2207
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 1: different where they staggered?

2208
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 6: No?

2209
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 11: So yeah, Tucker would have been a freshman, then lance

2210
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,680
Speaker 11: Lynn would have been a senior and Storren would have

2211
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 11: been a junior.

2212
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty loaded, unbelievable. All right, Jared, what number

2213
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 1: would you like?

2214
01:53:57,479 --> 01:53:59,440
Speaker 2: I'll do sixty six, please.

2215
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 1: Sixty six?

2216
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 2: Jared?

2217
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 1: You got uc F. They are the ten seed in

2218
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 1: the East. U see F the ten seed in the East.

2219
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: All right, we come back. We did talk to Trisha

2220
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 1: Whitaker earlier. We will let you know why we had

2221
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: her on aside just from talking about what Kyle Schwarber

2222
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: had to say. Because there is kind of a cool

2223
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,760
Speaker 1: event taking place tonight at eight o'clock this evening. We'll

2224
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: get into that, and I'll let Eddie decide whether or

2225
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 1: not we give any more numbers away between now and

2226
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 1: the crossover, which takes place with JMB just about thirty

2227
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 1: minutes from now. What, Eddie, I believe you mentioned that

2228
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 1: the ones and twos are all still out there, correct.

2229
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 2: I even think all the freese are out there. I

2230
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 2: think the highest seed we've given away is a four

2231
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 2: seed for Kansas.

2232
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

2233
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 2: I take that back. We did give away one of

2234
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 2: the one seeds we did give away Arizona. That's a

2235
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 2: phil That's the only one seed two seed that we've

2236
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 2: give and away.

2237
01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 1: All right, we'll fly through them quickly here, and we'll

2238
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 1: begin with We'll go with Tim first. All right, Tim,

2239
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 1: give me a number.

2240
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 8: When I got on hold, I think it was three,

2241
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 8: four and five.

2242
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 13: We're open, So I'll take.

2243
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 1: Three number three for Tim. Go ahead, Eddie. You did

2244
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 1: not get the Jay Giles band, Tim, but you did

2245
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 1: get Florida the one seed in the South. So there

2246
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 1: we go. You want to talk about power of suggestion,

2247
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 1: talking it into existence?

2248
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 2: Eddie?

2249
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 1: Tony? Hey, Tony, what's up, Tony?

2250
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 8: Not much?

2251
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 1: One number twenty four? There are significance to the number

2252
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 1: twenty four in your life?

2253
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 8: Tony, just a number? I have softball number?

2254
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 2: Oh really? What'd you play softball?

2255
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 8: Slow pitch here in Anderson?

2256
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 1: Are you good as the little state champs?

2257
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 13: Really?

2258
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2259
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 1: Well that's kind of cool. Who'd you beat for the

2260
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 1: state title?

2261
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 4: Seymour?

2262
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2263
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: They're always a little slower and Seymour too, aren't they? Okay,

2264
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 1: here we go, Uh, Tony, you got by the way

2265
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 1: that way?

2266
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 2: Wait, I kind of we go.

2267
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 13: To a boot call?

2268
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 1: That my best Eddy, if you don't mind me asking

2269
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: what the hell was that?

2270
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 2: Well exactly because nobody knows when in Aggie is so

2271
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 2: you know what the hell that was?

2272
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 1: Texas Agricultural and Mining better known as Texas A and M. Tony,

2273
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 1: there you go, Hey, Tony Darnell, what number would you like?

2274
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 2: Darnell?

2275
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 1: You have won this in the past, I believe what

2276
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 1: number would you like?

2277
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 13: Hey, Jake, guys, how about twenty eight?

2278
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 2: Twenty eight?

2279
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 1: Oh, Darnell Darnell, you know, the one that I think

2280
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 1: has a legit shot at at the very least the

2281
01:56:52,680 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 1: final four. Darnell has Eddie. I thought maybe you'd play

2282
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 1: Selmahyak for this, right, Oh I could?

2283
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 2: I know, I should have.

2284
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 1: The Cougars of Houston for Darnell. Darnell gets Calvin Sampson's group.

2285
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 2: Will.

2286
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 1: We haven't had a female yet, have we?

2287
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 2: I don't think.

2288
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't think we really have female listeners on this program.

2289
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: I think that occasionally, out of sympathy or charity, people

2290
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 1: will call in or have their wife call in because

2291
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 1: yet the female callers will call in, and we'll get

2292
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: excited that we have a female listener, and then they'll say,

2293
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 1: oh no, actually my husband just told me to call in,

2294
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: And then I get I think, okay, well we don't

2295
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 1: have any and I think we still don't based on

2296
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 1: this game, Will, what number would you like?

2297
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 11: How about number four?

2298
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:39,040
Speaker 1: Jake Will? Where did you go to school?

2299
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 8: I went to high school at Warren.

2300
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 1: Central, Warren Central, Okay? What year nineteen ninety nineteen ninety,

2301
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 1: so you were a year after or two years after

2302
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 1: Greg Graham?

2303
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 2: Right? A year after Greg Graham? I think two if

2304
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 2: I recall.

2305
01:57:56,640 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 1: And then I believe four after Jeff George, but dominant

2306
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: teams back in those days. Who did you root for

2307
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 1: in college basketball as a kid growing up?

2308
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 5: For?

2309
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 2: Oh?

2310
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Really?

2311
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 2: Okay?

2312
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 1: Well, then you would have been very disappointed in your

2313
01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 1: sixth grade year because you would have been wanting Indiana's

2314
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 1: season to come to an end. But they pulled a

2315
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 1: massive upset in eighty four when they knocked off this

2316
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 1: team that is now the sixth seed and the South,

2317
01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 1: the tar Heels of North Carolina. North Carolina goes to

2318
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 1: will Charlie is up next, Charlie. I asked to Charlie

2319
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 1: earlier if he ever goes by Chuck? And I'm just curious, Charlie,

2320
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 1: do you happen, by any stretch to go by the

2321
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 1: name Chuck from time to time?

2322
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 2: Yep?

2323
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 14: It's college in the game.

2324
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 2: Oh really?

2325
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2326
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 1: Did they ever like make Did you ever get sick

2327
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 1: in front of anybody after a long night?

2328
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 2: No, so they never called you up?

2329
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 4: Nope?

2330
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 1: Okay, good. Where'd you go to college, by the way, Charlie?

2331
01:58:58,120 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 13: Pretty okay?

2332
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 1: Did you have an friends at ball State?

2333
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a couple.

2334
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 2: Did they ever call you Charlie? Cardinal.

2335
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, they did.

2336
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 1: Actually, all right, Charlie, what number would you like is

2337
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 1: twenty six?

2338
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 2: Do you think of the numbers game? Charlie?

2339
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 1: Do you like the numbers game or do you find

2340
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: it to be you know, repetitive?

2341
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 8: Probably both.

2342
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 11: If you wanted to give me produce since I went there,

2343
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,200
Speaker 11: I wouldn't be mad if you just wanted to scrap

2344
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 11: the numbers game.

2345
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 1: Well, now, what number did you say?

2346
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 14: Is twenty six available?

2347
01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:32,400
Speaker 1: Twenty six is available? And I got news for you, Charlie.

2348
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:37,240
Speaker 1: You got a team that kind of relates to Purdue,

2349
01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: not Purdue itself, but do you remember who Purdue the

2350
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 1: last time that Purdue won a Final four game?

2351
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 2: Do you remember who they beat in c State?

2352
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 6: That?

2353
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 2: So you got, Charlie, Brian and I am so sorry

2354
01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 2: if you're at home listening on like a smart speaker

2355
01:59:56,520 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 2: and your dogs just went crazy. I was a last

2356
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:01,960
Speaker 2: night O living goes. I heard you guys doing that

2357
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:04,080
Speaker 2: numbers game. What all other sounders do you have? So

2358
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 2: I played them all for and last night Joey was

2359
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 2: going ape.

2360
02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:09,800
Speaker 1: You know what they do that as well? When dogs

2361
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:11,280
Speaker 1: are on the television, they don't realize it.

2362
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 2: Now you say Brian Ord, you say, Ashley, Oh.

2363
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 1: Way Matte Ashley? How about that?

2364
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:18,200
Speaker 2: Ashley? How are you good?

2365
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:19,040
Speaker 5: How are you guys doing?

2366
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 1: You've called for the show before, right, Ashley? Yes?

2367
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:22,760
Speaker 8: I had.

2368
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 1: Weren't you on your way to weren't you on your

2369
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:28,640
Speaker 1: way to like a soccer broadcast gig last time we talked? No,

2370
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:32,240
Speaker 1: that's not me, it's not you. We we only have

2371
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 1: like three female listeners. You think i'd be able to

2372
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 1: keep these straight?

2373
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:36,560
Speaker 2: Right? I know, right?

2374
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 8: I haven't called for a while.

2375
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 1: Though, Okay, fair enough? Is that because you haven't been

2376
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 1: listening to the program.

2377
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:45,760
Speaker 7: No, we've been listening. I've just been doing door Dash,

2378
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 7: So I really we're trying to listen and do door dash?

2379
02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough?

2380
02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:53,720
Speaker 1: All right Ashley? What are you door dashing right now?

2381
02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2382
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:56,520
Speaker 2: You are? What? What?

2383
02:00:56,760 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 6: What particular?

2384
02:00:58,320 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 1: What? What's your husband's name?

2385
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:01,160
Speaker 4: Larry?

2386
02:01:01,320 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 2: Hi? Larry? How are you? Okay?

2387
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 1: Ashley? What number would you like? What restaurant are you

2388
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Speaker 1: currently delivering?

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Speaker 7: I just delivered from El Morale.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever think to yourself when you do a

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Speaker 1: door dash? Do you ever pick it up and then

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Speaker 1: think to yourself, this person couldn't have just I mean,

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02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 1: I know some people have limitation. But do you ever

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02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 1: think to yourself like this guy couldn't have gone two

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02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 1: blocks for some you know whatever?

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Speaker 2: It was right?

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Speaker 1: That is very true.

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Speaker 2: Well, but you get paid, all right?

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Speaker 1: What number did you say, Ashley, twenty two? Twenty two

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Speaker 1: is taken?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you some numbers that are available, and

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Speaker 1: then you stop me when you hear one that's t

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Speaker 1: your liking. Five, six, seven, nine.

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Speaker 5: Five's perfect.

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Speaker 2: Five.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that'll work.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Your goal when you DoorDash is to make things, as

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02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, the delivery as quickly as possible. And it's

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Speaker 1: possible actually that this team is going to be equally

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02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:01,720
Speaker 1: fast in terms of exit from the tournament. But you

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Speaker 1: might be a candidate for largest blowout. Siena, the sixteen

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02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 1: seed in the East has gone. I think that's also

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02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 1: a color of crayon in the Crayola box. Brian, Brian,

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Speaker 1: what number?

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Speaker 5: Let's go with lucky seven.

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Speaker 1: Brian, how would you critique the numbers game on the radio?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'd give it a true comparison to maybe like

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02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 4: Clay Travis when he does a Halloween candy playoff game

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02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:29,480
Speaker 4: about equally as interesting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good or bad. By the way, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. If you were to compare

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Speaker 1: the numbers game to a candy bar, what candy bar

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02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 1: would you place it as?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 8: Not a bar that Let's go with a peanut M

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Speaker 8: and ms.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's not bad. I think most people enjoy those, right, Okay, Brian,

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Speaker 1: you got.

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Speaker 2: Hold on? Hang on, hang on, Brian?

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02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 1: Would you like to guess which school you received the

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02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 1: numbers game based on Eddie sounder?

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Speaker 2: Eddie, go ahead and play that. You know what school

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02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 2: that is? Brian Hong Kong University. I don't know, one.

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Speaker 1: More time if you could, Eddie. Okay, all right, Well

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02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:26,960
Speaker 1: we'll let that one simmer for a bit before we

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Speaker 1: reveal what school Brian has received. We'll see if Bill

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02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:34,840
Speaker 1: knows Bill based on that sounder, would you like to

2440
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:36,520
Speaker 1: guess who Brian received?

2441
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:45,080
Speaker 2: Longwood is not? I have no idea more head state? Okay?

2442
02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 1: Is Earl Roberts? Is that what we're here?

2443
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 2: I mean? What are we doing? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Well, Bill, I'd like to thank you for being the

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Speaker 1: final caller on this program. That was Iowa. By the way,

2446
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 1: that was Iowa that ed came up with the hawk

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Speaker 1: to a sounder. Okay, Bill, what number would you like?

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Speaker 8: I'll go ahead and take six.

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02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:07,040
Speaker 2: Six.

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02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:12,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, you just out of curiosity, Bill, did you attend.

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Speaker 2: A university.

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Speaker 8: Indiana State?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool. Uh you got Wisconsin, the five seed

2454
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 1: in the west. By the way, Wisconsin, you know you

2455
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:28,800
Speaker 1: know what that actually sounds a little bit like that

2456
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:31,640
Speaker 1: sounds like a car motor. It also sounds sounds like

2457
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:37,760
Speaker 1: sounds like what happened just beforehand? Right, Okay, all right,

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02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:42,120
Speaker 1: that's the Iowa Hawkeyes by the way for that one.

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Speaker 2: Well, anyway, they'll got my favorite underdog. What's that? They'll

2460
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 2: got my favorite underdog?

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Speaker 1: You men, you are big on the Badgers.

2462
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 2: I love great guard. I think he's a great coach,

2463
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 2: and I just really like what the Badgers have with

2464
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:57,720
Speaker 2: their rotation in.

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Speaker 1: Well, the other thing that's interesting about him is there

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02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:03,440
Speaker 1: playing kind of the antithesis of typical Wisconsin basketball.

2467
02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, they're they've adapted to more of the modern offense,

2468
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:10,240
Speaker 2: put up a lot of threes, run a little bit.

2469
02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:12,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm from now on, like when we do this numbers

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02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 1: game for the five hundred, assuming they let us still

2472
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Speaker 1: do it. I hope that that Iowa has a race

2473
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 1: car in the eighty five hundred, so that when someone

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Speaker 1: selects them, we can just go ahead and let them

2475
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:30,320
Speaker 1: know that, okay, that that gal's kind of her. She's

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Speaker 1: on minute seventeen, right, I think, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back. We will mercifully see what JV's got

2478
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Speaker 1: lined up for his program when we do. The JMV

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Speaker 1: crossover coming up. Brought to you by the good guys

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Speaker 1: did you consider the hawk to a girl attractive?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Jake. I mean I have to be

2487
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 2: careful with what I say. I don't know if Olivia's

2488
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 2: listening or not. Oh yeah, I mean I don't have

2489
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:12,720
Speaker 2: to go home. I have to deal with that.

2490
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:17,000
Speaker 1: You're not you could admit if someone's attractive, right?

2491
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 2: Ah?

2492
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 1: Sure, I mean I don't have her sitting out here

2493
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:21,640
Speaker 1: waiting to take you to dinner or anything.

2494
02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 2: That's true.

2495
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:29,200
Speaker 1: I thought her friend was more attractive than she if

2496
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 1: you'd like to know the truth. Are you excited tonight

2497
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:35,520
Speaker 1: for the World Baseball Classic eight o'clock?

2498
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:38,400
Speaker 2: I will be, Jake, I'll be tuned into that. Sorry, Pacers,

2499
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:43,480
Speaker 2: I'll be watching the stick and Ball game over the rock.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson. Doubtful tonight for the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: Pardon my ignorance on this question, because the United States

2502
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:59,480
Speaker 1: obviously has a ton of talent. Is Venezuela a huge

2503
02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 1: underdog in this Are they one that was thought to

2504
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:03,160
Speaker 1: be in this situation?

2505
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:10,280
Speaker 2: US was the clear cut like favorite to win the WBC,

2506
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:12,600
Speaker 2: and after that there was like a grouping of like

2507
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:16,400
Speaker 2: teams that have the talent to make a run. Venezuela

2508
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:19,800
Speaker 2: was in that grouping because if you look at their lineup,

2509
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 2: they have a lot of pro hitters. If this was the.

2510
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:27,360
Speaker 1: Okay, if this were the it was the Major League

2511
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:31,480
Speaker 1: Baseball last season, If the if the United States is

2512
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:35,320
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, what team is Venezuela.

2513
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:38,960
Speaker 2: San Diego? Okay, that's that's not bad.

2514
02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:45,840
Speaker 1: I how many big leaguers are on the Venezuela and roster?

2515
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 2: I got them out. Yeah, I figured right, Ronald Acuney

2516
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 2: Junior is the headliner for them.

2517
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:53,400
Speaker 1: Well that's pretty legit, right, that's yeah.

2518
02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 2: They've got Louise Rise there Isekiel Tovar is a nice

2519
02:07:57,200 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 2: a nice player who doesn't get a lot of national

2520
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:03,800
Speaker 2: wrecking because he plays, unfortunately for the Colorado Rockies.

2521
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:09,440
Speaker 1: That the Rockies may be if you were going to pick,

2522
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:13,920
Speaker 1: I have a friend who is a die hard fan

2523
02:08:13,960 --> 02:08:16,080
Speaker 1: of the New Orleans the New Orleans Saints, jamb This

2524
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:17,760
Speaker 1: would be a good question for jamb here as well.

2525
02:08:17,800 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 2: Who just walked in.

2526
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 1: So my buddy John, I got a buddy named Tom

2527
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 1: Savage who's a diehard New Orleans Saints fan.

2528
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:28,400
Speaker 13: Tom Savage used to have a mullet.

2529
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, not the not the former quarterback.

2530
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:32,680
Speaker 13: Tom's had, No Yeah, Tom said he had a mullet,

2531
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:36,600
Speaker 13: had the very curly hair, didn't he or something like that, Yeah.

2532
02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:37,400
Speaker 2: Curly mullet.

2533
02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:40,480
Speaker 1: Savage is at Saints fan because when he first started

2534
02:08:40,480 --> 02:08:43,640
Speaker 1: watching football, you know, during the NFL today or whatever,

2535
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 1: they showed the highlights of other games and they showed

2536
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:47,200
Speaker 1: all the fans in the crowd wearing.

2537
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 2: The paper bags over their head.

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02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 1: So he's like man, you know, they need a that's

2539
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:52,520
Speaker 1: a team that needs a fan, so he became a

2540
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 1: fan of them. If you were a kid right now

2541
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:58,400
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball and you were trying to pick

2542
02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:03,320
Speaker 1: a team and you went with that motivation a franchise

2543
02:09:03,400 --> 02:09:06,240
Speaker 1: that seemingly needs a fan because nobody is a fan

2544
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 1: of them, who would you tell the kid to root.

2545
02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 13: For the Detroit Tigers? Okay, what do you think the Tigers?

2546
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:15,240
Speaker 1: I think an our age group people like them though,

2547
02:09:15,280 --> 02:09:17,040
Speaker 1: right because they have a proud tradition.

2548
02:09:17,120 --> 02:09:19,480
Speaker 13: Well they have they had well yeah, they have one,

2549
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 13: you know, mega star pitcher and then a bunch of

2550
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:27,320
Speaker 13: dudes that are pretty good and they're making headway now

2551
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:29,720
Speaker 13: and they're a little bit off the radar. You don't

2552
02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:30,440
Speaker 13: see them all at the.

2553
02:09:30,360 --> 02:09:33,600
Speaker 1: Cool stadium far. I mean, I would say, I.

2554
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:37,800
Speaker 13: Just think there's not because everything is so easily accomplished

2555
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:42,000
Speaker 13: and seeing you're not watching this week in baseball and going, hey, man,

2556
02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 13: I just saw Lynn Randall, you know, blow that bunt

2557
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 13: foul for the Mariners playing third base, and I think

2558
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:49,000
Speaker 13: I'm gonna be a Mariners fan. You know what I mean?

2559
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 13: You just don't do There's not that love affair or

2560
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 13: enjoyment of the great unknown any long?

2561
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:58,080
Speaker 1: And which when you were a kid, which do you

2562
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:03,200
Speaker 1: think was a more a greater draw to making you

2563
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:06,960
Speaker 1: follow baseball? Mel Allen's This Week in Baseball or Baseball

2564
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:08,160
Speaker 1: cards or both?

2565
02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:11,560
Speaker 13: It was it was baseball cards to start, but I

2566
02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 13: probably was more of the baseball game of the week.

2567
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:20,000
Speaker 13: I was a tremendous Joe Garagiola Tony Kubec fan on NBC. Now,

2568
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:23,040
Speaker 13: part of that is because a lot of those games

2569
02:10:23,080 --> 02:10:25,800
Speaker 13: of the seventies surrounded my favorite team, the Red. Of

2570
02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:29,000
Speaker 13: course they were on all the time, but uh, that's

2571
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 13: probably where it started. Then it was this Week in Baseball?

2572
02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 13: Did you like the I didn't like the Warner if

2573
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:38,280
Speaker 13: you sell era of This Week in Baseball? Did you

2574
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 13: the post? Mel Allen was?

2575
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:41,800
Speaker 2: Got be Allen? Right now?

2576
02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:45,480
Speaker 1: How about and the okay, do you know the game

2577
02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:51,320
Speaker 1: show that they used is what was the something crowds

2578
02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:55,680
Speaker 1: was the was the closing intro? But do you know

2579
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:58,160
Speaker 1: what the there was a game a television game show

2580
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:00,720
Speaker 1: they used as the opening theme music for This Week

2581
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 1: in Baseball?

2582
02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:02,200
Speaker 2: What was it?

2583
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:06,080
Speaker 1: Gathering crowds was the one at the end? No no, no, no, no,

2584
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:06,680
Speaker 1: no no, no, no.

2585
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:10,480
Speaker 13: And we all did motion like the.

2586
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:13,120
Speaker 1: First one was done done done.

2587
02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:16,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't know what that was. That was a

2588
02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:19,680
Speaker 13: game show, game show called Jackpot. Well great from the seventies.

2589
02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:23,640
Speaker 13: They took it from that. No, Now I did not

2590
02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:25,680
Speaker 13: like the bait.

2591
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:29,520
Speaker 1: I think I probably had just outgrown the target age

2592
02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:32,120
Speaker 1: of the Baseball Bunch with Johnny Bench and the chicken.

2593
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:34,120
Speaker 13: It had Johnny Bench on it. So I was a

2594
02:11:34,160 --> 02:11:34,600
Speaker 13: big fan.

2595
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 1: Sponsored by what do you remember.

2596
02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:40,600
Speaker 13: Yes, spray paint because that's I think he did that

2597
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 13: to his dome too.

2598
02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:45,400
Speaker 1: You know why he endorsed cry line spray paint because

2599
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:47,920
Speaker 1: they had no runs, no drips and no air.

2600
02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:50,640
Speaker 13: Lesorda was on that all the time. If you remember,

2601
02:11:51,200 --> 02:11:52,400
Speaker 13: it's great, Yeah, it was.

2602
02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:53,280
Speaker 2: It was great. Hey.

2603
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:57,040
Speaker 13: By the way, Saint Patrick's Day any significance for you.

2604
02:11:57,040 --> 02:11:59,440
Speaker 13: You see the shirt Hooligans? Were you a big fan

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Speaker 13: of Hooligan's back of the day on Kirkwood and Bloomington.

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Speaker 1: Yes, been to Hooligans for sure. We're going every year

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Speaker 1: Jan and I go and we will get againness at Connors.

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Speaker 13: Oh nice, Yes, I love that too, Hooligans. It was

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Speaker 13: the first place you know before and that's one of

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Speaker 13: the reasons why they're probably closed now. And then after

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Speaker 13: I turned twenty one, that was the place to go

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02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:27,240
Speaker 13: that holds the greatest doughter for me. When I first

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Speaker 13: became of age, You go to Mars. I did, got

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Speaker 13: in the cage and danced a little bit too. You

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02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:34,520
Speaker 13: ever get in that cage and dance. I got kicked

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Speaker 13: out of there once because somebody dared me to pour

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02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:39,320
Speaker 13: my beer in the tip jar and drink it, and

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02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:43,720
Speaker 13: I swallowed a bunch of dimes and quarters. They threw

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Speaker 13: me out. Yeah, that sounds like a halftime show. I

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Speaker 13: did see in Hooligans. Two great stories. Once upon a time,

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Speaker 13: Trent Green, the former AU quarterback on CBS, had chicks

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Speaker 13: all over him and I was always jealous. And our

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Speaker 13: mutual friend Pat Knight had his first turning twenty one experience,

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Speaker 13: and I actually happened to be in there that night.

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Speaker 13: Oh you know what was most significant about that moment

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Speaker 13: among these significance And we didn't know one another, we'd

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Speaker 13: played against one another a couple of times. But he

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Speaker 13: he barfed in the uh he barfed in the trough

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Speaker 13: in the men's room and stopped it up, and it

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02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:20,640
Speaker 13: like overflowed and started dripping everywhere.

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Speaker 1: That is probably probably a.

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Speaker 15: Couple of places, right, But but he uh yeah, he

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02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:30,200
Speaker 15: got a little wild and he was getting wild on

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Speaker 15: the dance floor and over his head was a royal

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02:13:34,240 --> 02:13:37,440
Speaker 15: on the east Side car dealer commercial and his dad

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Speaker 15: was doing it.

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Speaker 13: His dad was on the commercial on the TV in Madge.

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Speaker 1: Had imagine growing up being I mean, I think it'd

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Speaker 1: be fun as hell. I don't think anybody. I don't

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Speaker 1: think people realized that weren't around them. Just the power

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Speaker 1: that Bob Night had back then though in the state.

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Speaker 13: I think it would be. I think it'd be cool.

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02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 13: You probably were easy for me to say, but uh,

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02:13:56,320 --> 02:13:59,680
Speaker 13: I just loved it because every time you play, we

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Speaker 13: played anybody you played down there, always the coach would

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02:14:04,120 --> 02:14:06,640
Speaker 13: always try to act like at some point Bob now, oh,

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02:14:06,680 --> 02:14:08,960
Speaker 13: I'm sure they started screaming and yelling and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So, by the way, those kinds of stories and more

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Speaker 1: you can hear at the Fan Invitational Golf Ounting coming

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Speaker 1: up April thirtieth from ten thirty until five at the

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02:14:15,960 --> 02:14:19,680
Speaker 1: Legends Golf Club down in Franklin. Awesome place, and we

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Speaker 1: will be there. Everybody will be there doing shows having fun.

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Speaker 1: Check in starts at nine o'clock in the morning, shotguns

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Speaker 1: start at ten thirty. All of it to help out

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Speaker 1: our friends at Pranciscan Health and the Franciscan Health Foundation.

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Speaker 1: All of the information on our website. John's up next,

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Speaker 1: and we will be back with you at noon tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I thank you for listening to Queing Company.