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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartbinert and the crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: So with all the conversations about ice, immigrations and customs enforcement,

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Speaker 1: and all the anger that the political left has mustered here,

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Speaker 1: all the violence that they are engaged in. And I

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Speaker 1: know that mainstream media doesn't like to talk about the

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Speaker 1: fact that the left is violent, but they are. We

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Speaker 1: should be honest and clear about what it is that's happening.

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today. Good to be here, good

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Speaker 1: to be with You find everything at tonykats dot com.

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Speaker 1: They aren't engaged in protest. They are engaged in violence

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Speaker 1: against law enforcement. They don't believe in the country like

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Speaker 1: you and I believe in the country. They want to

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Speaker 1: tear it all down. They believe their feelings are enough.

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Speaker 1: They believe that somehow their feelings make them justified. And

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Speaker 1: what they feel is if you disagree with them, it's

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Speaker 1: okay to hurt you. This is where their feelings have

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Speaker 1: led them, not to a rational place, not to even

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Speaker 1: a place of woe.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we're going a little too far.

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Speaker 1: They feel justified in hurting or killing you. This isn't hyperbole.

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Speaker 1: This is what they have said, what they have shown,

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Speaker 1: how they have acted, And all we're doing is noticing

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Speaker 1: if they want to get angry at.

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Speaker 2: Us, noticing, well, that's.

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Speaker 1: Fine, that's wonderful, that's terrific, But that's their problem. We

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Speaker 1: notice things, and we notice that the media gets into

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Speaker 1: conversations like this one on CNN.

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Speaker 3: To what extent, Maria, do you think that these are

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Speaker 3: the pictures that the White House wants that they are

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Speaker 3: sort of baiting protesters in Minneapolis into this because last

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Speaker 3: night there was violence on certainly the vehicles of ice

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Speaker 3: there were, there was auction, there was according to Homeland Security,

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Speaker 3: this federal officer who was attacked and acted in self defense.

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Speaker 1: Now the pictures that they're showing is ICE agents there.

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Speaker 1: They're being surrounded, They're utilizing tear gas and other things

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Speaker 1: to push the crowd back. A lot of screaming, a

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Speaker 1: lot of yelling. Here is the leftist answering Maria Cardona

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Speaker 1: is her name answering the host here, John Berman, John, I.

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Speaker 4: Think that Doug brings up a good point, which is

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Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think Donald Trump cares about that, and

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Speaker 4: in fact, he might like those kinds of pictures because

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Speaker 4: he is so power hungry. But I bet you that

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Speaker 4: the politically savvy people, perhaps Susie Wiles, understands that for

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Speaker 4: Republicans who have to be on the ballot in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty six, this is political kryptonite.

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Speaker 1: I reject the premise, and I think that's a bad

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Speaker 1: take from the Democratic strategist to the extent that there's

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Speaker 1: such a thing Maria.

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Speaker 2: Cardona Trump likes the photos.

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Speaker 1: Well, if the argument is, look at all these anti

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Speaker 1: American forces attacking law enforcement, look at all these anti

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Speaker 1: American forces protecting illegal immigrants. We should do something about this.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I got nearly eighty million votes

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. This is what people voted for

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Speaker 1: to put an end to this madness and bring safety

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Speaker 1: to the streets.

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Speaker 2: That's not kryptonite for Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, it's just a complete and total misread of the situation.

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Speaker 1: But I think the larger scale misread here is you

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Speaker 1: take a look at the imagery and it's what Trump wants.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, why is the left giving Trump

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Speaker 1: what he wants? No, no, no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 1: What you are seeing is what the left wants, not

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Speaker 1: what Trump wants, and not what the right wants the

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Speaker 1: left wants the violence because why this is how its

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Speaker 1: people act, react and want to engage. The studies, the research,

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Speaker 1: the polling shows that more and more on the left

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Speaker 1: feel that violence is okay when they disagree. They're the

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Speaker 1: ones that go out there and don't peacefully protest. They're

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Speaker 1: doing anything, but they're quite literally fighting with law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: They are attacking law enforcement, ramming the vehicles of law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: using their vehicles to ram actual law enforcement officers, not

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Speaker 1: just the cars.

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Speaker 2: They're doing this.

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Speaker 1: Everything that they have pushed, everything they have done, is

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Speaker 1: violent and violence, and they believe that it is somehow

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Speaker 1: moral for their position, which brings us to this against CNN.

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Speaker 2: This is Kwame Raoul? Is it Raoul? Is Kwame Raoul

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Speaker 2: or Kwame Raoul?

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Speaker 3: R A O U L.

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Speaker 1: I would think that's Raoul, isn't it? He is the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General of Illinois and he is being asked the question.

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Speaker 2: And you just mentioned this.

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Speaker 5: You said you're not asking for ICE to get out

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Speaker 5: of the state. You are asking them to stop certain

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Speaker 5: tactics that they've been using. Just yesterday in Minnesota, a

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Speaker 5: federal judge declined to issue a temporary restraining order to

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Speaker 5: stop ICE operations in Minnesota. As that case goes through

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Speaker 5: the court, can you give us some sense of how

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Speaker 5: your case is different. Do you see Minnesota as a

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Speaker 5: case that's actually trying to get ice to leave the

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Speaker 5: state and your case is not.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's a more intense situation on the ground in

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Speaker 6: Minnesota right now, right there's been a surge in Minnesota,

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Speaker 6: and that's why MI cole League A. G Ellison went

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Speaker 6: in requesting a temporary restraining order and we did not.

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Speaker 6: We are prepared to fully litigate this case and engage

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Speaker 6: in discovery and and and so facts. While there are

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Speaker 6: similar facts on the ground in the Minnesota, in California

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Speaker 6: and other jurisdictions that have been politically targeted by this administration,

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Speaker 6: there are differences as well, and with regards to intensity.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I wanted ho ho ho ho ho.

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Speaker 1: Politically targeted by this administration.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you missed that. Let's go back just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He's discussing why Illinois SEES is engaged differently uh legally

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Speaker 2: But let's go back real quick.

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Speaker 6: Fully litigate this case and engage in discovery and and

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Speaker 6: and so facts while there are similar facts on the

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Speaker 6: ground Minnesota, in California and other jurisdictions that have been

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Speaker 6: politically targeted by this administration.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota, California, Illinois politically targeted by this administration. Oh so

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Speaker 1: you're saying that ICE is only going to blue states

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Speaker 1: and they're going after Democrats. Oh are we not going

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Speaker 1: to admit that these are places that have called themselves

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Speaker 1: sanctuary cities and sanctuary states and have taken glee at

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Speaker 1: basically slaughing at the law and allowing ilegal immigrants into

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Speaker 1: their states and providing them I'm told billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: worth the benefits on the taxpayer dime.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's targeting when you're the ones violating the law.

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Speaker 2: If I rob banks and I get arrested, am I.

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Speaker 1: Being targeted because of the color of my skin, or

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Speaker 1: my politics or my religion?

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Speaker 2: Or am I getting.

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Speaker 1: Targeted because I'm the guy who broke the law and

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Speaker 1: was robbing banks?

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Speaker 2: This is exactly the problem.

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Speaker 1: They believe that we won't notice that they're full of crap,

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Speaker 1: But they speak to their audience like their audience or fools,

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Speaker 1: and their audience buys into it, which will prove them right.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of hate in this statement. Let's go

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Speaker 1: back again, listen.

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Speaker 6: Fully litigate this case, and engage in discovery and.

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Speaker 2: So facts.

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Speaker 6: While there are similar facts on the ground in Minnesota,

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Speaker 6: in California and other jurisdictions that have been politically targeted

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Speaker 6: by this administration, there are differences as well with regards

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Speaker 6: to intensity.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I want to add is the

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Speaker 2: notion of border.

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Speaker 6: Patrol being engaging in immigration enforcement in the interior. Congress

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Speaker 6: is set out for border patrol to do their work

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Speaker 6: on the border.

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Speaker 1: Now we can discuss where border patrol should be and

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Speaker 1: whether or not border patrol can be assigned to other places.

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Speaker 1: But what a thing to say and an audience to

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Speaker 1: accept that Blue states are politically targeted by the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: The Blue states have said, we're not going to listen

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Speaker 1: to the law. We're going to protect the legal immigrants.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to work with immigrations and Customs enforcement.

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Speaker 1: We are going to try and thwart federal agencies and

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Speaker 1: federal officials. And when our people engage in violence against.

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Speaker 2: Them, we're going to have police stand down. All right,

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna do it official. We're gonna do with

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Speaker 2: a wink in a nod.

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Speaker 1: We're going to run and hide so these rioters can

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Speaker 1: go about engaging in destruction because we want to look

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Speaker 1: at the destruction and say, look what Donald Trump did

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Speaker 1: to our beautiful city and then fake tears all that jazz.

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Speaker 2: Only a fool would say, man, Trump's really going after

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Speaker 2: those Blue states and not say, you know, it's the

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Speaker 2: Blue states that are harboring people here here legally. It's

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Speaker 2: the blue states that are thwarting the rule of law.

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Speaker 1: It's the Blue states that don't see America the way

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Speaker 1: we see America, because they don't even see America. They

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Speaker 1: see this awful, violent, colonialist place that needs to be destroyed.

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Speaker 2: That's who they are.

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Speaker 1: There's a real difference in us and them, a true,

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Speaker 1: true difference between us and them. That's the story that

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Speaker 1: what they are putting forward they know is false.

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Speaker 2: They know they're lying.

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Speaker 1: And the idea that this that these images are bad

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Speaker 1: for Trump not in the slightest that's not real. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's like that woman on the plane that mother blanker

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Speaker 1: is not real. That commentary is not true. That story

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Speaker 1: is not real. Taking illegal immigrants off the streets. That's

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Speaker 1: what eighty million Americans voted for, and it's happening. And

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Speaker 1: who's getting in their way Democrats? Pathetic liberal white women. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't play bad for Trump. That plays bad for Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Now if you say to me, the people like the

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Speaker 1: idea of a police state, no, no, they don't, and

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Speaker 1: they will, in a type of reflex maneuver, say what

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Speaker 1: is the government doing, which is why how the media

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Speaker 1: plays these things is so important.

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Speaker 2: I shoot another man in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: That isn't what happened, but that's how media tells the

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Speaker 1: story so they can get that kind of immediate reaction

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Speaker 1: and then hopefully gain voters. You do not hate the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media enough because you fail to understand how much

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Speaker 1: the mainstream media hates you constantly constantly lying to their

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Speaker 1: audience in hopes that they will just buy in or

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Speaker 1: reflexively react the way the left wants them to. Once

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Speaker 1: you pull back the curtain, you realize how ugly these

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Speaker 1: people are and what fraudsters they are.

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Speaker 2: America wants safety and security and we're.

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Speaker 1: Utilizing the law to do so, and the progressive left

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Speaker 1: is violating the law and engaging in violence. If you

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Speaker 1: want to bet on how that works in the midterms,

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Speaker 1: I say, Okay, place your bet. I think it works

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Speaker 1: out well for the Republicans. More as a point, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it works out well for the Democrats of

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today