1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Casey, you want to play a little game. 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 2: Yes, what do you have? 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: The game that we're about to play is called how 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: much does the Mike Bohatchick bodycam footage cost? 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Oh? 6 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 3: That's a good one, all right? 7 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: So have you just tuning in the program? It's Kenell 8 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: and Casey show. I'm Rob that's Casey Kevin our producers here. 9 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: So Mike Bohatchick is this disgraceful state senator who clearly 10 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: has a very serious issue with alcohol was arrested What 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: this was all the way back in the winter right 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: for driving while under the influence his blood draw because 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: he refused the breathalyzer. By the way, he's a senator 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: from north whether they be Northwest Indiana, mich He his 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: blood drubbies. He refused the breathalyzer. He was so inebriated 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: that the Panda Express people allegedly are the ones who 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: phoned him in. They were like. 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: That dude should not be driving a car. 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: So, I mean, that's how drunk the guy was pulled over, 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: can't allegedly can't follow commands, is trying to eat and 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: drink his food that is still in the car with him. 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: He's got food all over him and then refuses the breathalyzer, 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: gets the blood drafts zero point two eighty three, which 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: is three and a half times legal limit. Guy's lucky 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: he's not in a coma. And by the way, this 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: is in the middle of. 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: The day too, that's right, it was. 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: This is in the middle of the day. That's how 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: drunk the guy was in the middle of the day. 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: January twenty fourth. 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: January twenty fourth, So evades all scrutiny, prosecution, everything, because 32 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: of this law that the lawmakers exempted themselves from prosecution 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: during the session. Legislative immunity, no mug shot, no driver's license, suspension, 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: no detainment. 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: Yes, he's out of here. 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: It was having on a Friday afternoon, and then I 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: believe Monday, he was back in the state House. 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: And legislating and lording over you and judging you and 39 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: telling you how to live your life. Highly leveraged. By 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: the way, sincebody in the state House, according to Merritt 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: knew it was good. Jim Merritt knew what was going on. 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 3: And the case remained sealed for six months. 43 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: Right who broke the story? 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: By the way, according to this article, the case remained 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: sealed until reporters uncovered it in June. 46 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: Yes, Rob Kendall was the first one to post, Rob 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: Kendall reporter, that's me. I'm the spinoff of Indie reporter. 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Rob Kendall reporter broke this story. And we gave him 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: multiple days to tell the truth. We put it out there, 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: We said we have this, We're we're gonna you do 51 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: the right thing. Come clean. He wouldn't, so we had 52 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: to put it out there. Same thing we had to 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: do with the bow Baird stuff. We gave them multiple opportunities. 54 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: Why people don't think will do it because look, I 55 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: take no joy in it. I just want you to 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: hold yourself accountable. You're an elected person. Well I shouldn't 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: have to tell everybody, but I want to give you 58 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do it first. And now, multiple times 59 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: we've been like, we have this, you know, we have this, 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: do the right thing, and they won't do it. So 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: we'll gladly take the credit. We'll take the clicks, we'll 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: take the listeners, we'll take the hit if you're not 63 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: going to do the right thing and fess up. So 64 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: this case now has been adjudicated, and boy howdy for 65 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: completely disgracing himself and his district and everything else. He 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: got about five hundred dollars in payments. He's got to 67 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: make substance abuse evaluation and participate in therapy. This dude 68 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: needs way more than therapy. If he's got a point 69 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: two eighty three in the middle of the day, that's ridiculous. 70 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: And then the three hundred and sixty five day jail 71 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: sentence was fully suspended. He has to instead serve three 72 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five days of informal probation. Informal which 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: my old man told me that that's basically you don't 74 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: have to report, like you're just on on. I don't know, 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: he said, he didn't think so. I mean, he was 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: a fed so he didn't know exactly how the state 77 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: or accounting's work. But anyway, so that sounds probably about 78 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: as meaningless as it actually is. 79 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: Twenty day license suspension. 80 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: Now, if you refuse the breathalyser, you go down for 81 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: a year without your driver's license. So this guy was 82 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: able to drive his car the entire time too, So 83 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: he got basically the only thing that happened to him 84 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: is a five hundred dollars fine for lack of a 85 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: better termament and lost his license for twenty days a 86 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: point two eight three, and that's what he got. So 87 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: we have said for a while that the only way 88 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: to deal with these people because they and by the way, 89 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, the General Assembly won't say anything about it. 90 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: You know, the General simbly won't do anything about it 91 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: because they did nothing about Jim Lucas. In fact, they 92 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: gave him fifty grand to help him get reelected Jim 93 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: lucas the state rep. They did nothing about bo Baird 94 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: when he admitted that we were right that that that 95 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: he'd had that OWI that got covered up. Nothing happened 96 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: to him, and so nothing will happen to this guy either. 97 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: The Indiana General Assembly clearly does not think drinking and 98 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: driving is any sort of issue whatsoever. Clearly they've had 99 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: multiple opportunities, they never do it. They never do anything 100 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: about it, so there'd be no punishment for this guy. 101 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: So what we said was the only to actually punish 102 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: this guy is to try to publicly shame him into oblivion, 103 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: and the best way to do that will be when 104 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: the body cam video comes out, because then we'll hopefully 105 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: get to see him with food all over himself. And look, 106 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I want to shame somebody, but if 107 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: they're not going to be held to account as an 108 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: elected person who gets to lord over me, raise my taxes, 109 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: raise my utilities, take my money, then you damn better 110 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: believe that I'm going to do everything in my power 111 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: to fight back because these people hate me and they 112 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: hate you. 113 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you know he was taking meetings and 114 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: attending State House functions the entire time this was going on, 115 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: so imagine how compromised he was. Okay, I'll do whatever 116 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: you want me to do, just don't say a word 117 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: about this DUI. 118 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: So our old pal Steven over at the Indie Reporter 119 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: at Indie Underscore Reporter underscore by give him a follow, 120 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: by the way, he has a Patreon set up now. 121 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and for he wants to live off more than arby'scoopole. 122 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Well, he's asking for two dollars a month, I think 123 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: on his Patreon, and I think that's to cover his gas. 124 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: Any reporter does a ton of great stuff, goes out 125 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: and gets a ton of stories, doesn't ask for any money. 126 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: He just does it for his own So if you 127 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: want to, if you got two dollars laying around and 128 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: you enjoy coverage, consider helping him out. But anyway, he 129 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: has been trying to get this bodycam footage now for months, 130 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: and they told him this is I believe the Michigan 131 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: City Police Department is who he's been dealing with because 132 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: Laporte County took the case, but I believe the incident 133 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: happened in Michigan City. And they told him we will 134 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: not release the bodycam footage until the case is adjudicated, 135 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: which obviously now has happened. Is and he just told 136 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: me that that. They told him it could cost him 137 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: up awards of eight hundred and fifty dollars to get 138 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: this bodycam footage. 139 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: Reilly, he's going to need more than two dollars on 140 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: his Patreon account to cover that. 141 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: Think about the world we are living in where this 142 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: state senator he's admitted it's not even allegedly anymore. He's 143 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: totally admitted. Yeah, he did it. And the public have 144 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: to pay our own money to get to see what 145 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: took place when a guy they were in session, the right, that. 146 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: Was during January twenty fourth, we're in session. 147 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was acting as a state senator. 148 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: Yes, he's sitting on key legal and health. 149 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Committees, and we have to pay. Now, I think we're 150 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: supposed to get back to him on a final price. 151 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: Why do we have to pay anything that's our bodycm footage. 152 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: The public pays for that, that's ours. Why do we 153 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: have to pay one damn dime to see this disgrace, 154 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: humiliate himself and humiliate all his constituents because that's the 155 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: only way to hold these people accountable. Now, Casey, it's 156 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: the only way because the government won't do it, the 157 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: legal system won't do it. And then they go, yeah, 158 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: there'll be eight hundred and fifty dollars to get to 159 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: see the truth. Thanks. 160 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean, just think about that. He got to put 161 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: this off for months. It happened in January. He didn't 162 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: have to plead anything until just yesterday. 163 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was that's seven months ones. He evaded 164 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: all scrutiny for four of those months, and then there's 165 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: no punishment. Nothing happened to him. And by the way, 166 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: even if you factor in what he probably paid an attorney. 167 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: He's still in the positive. Oh. He makes a host 168 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: on a salary. 169 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: Makes over seventy thousand dollars first part time, first part 170 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: time job. Yeah, but now you understand why these people 171 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: go into the state House and they play ball, no 172 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: matter what they tell you on the campaign trail. Now 173 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: you understand why when they go in there they play ball. 174 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Because if you play ball, if you're a good little 175 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: girl or boy, and you vote how we tell you, 176 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: we will protect you. See Jim Lucas, look at how 177 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: he's changed. Look at out what he does. Now say, 178 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: same thing with this guy. They'll protect him because he's 179 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: a good establishment Republican. He'll do whatever they tell him 180 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: to do. He's a reliable vote. They don't want the 181 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: headache of potentially somebody else getting in there, so they'll 182 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: back this guy up again when he runs for reelection. 183 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: They'll back the guy up again. 184 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 185 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: Oh, even more so because they'll they know he'll vote 186 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: the way they want. 187 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: It won't be independent thought. 188 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Now, we do know that this would probably be the 189 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: greatest bodycam footage ever, so we might have to put 190 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: some maybe like I don't know, there's things on the 191 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: internet where you can raise money for things or whatever. 192 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean. We have to get possession of this bodycam 193 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: footage and humiliate this guy and humiliate the General Assembly 194 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: because they covered it up. Every single one of those 195 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: senators who didn't tell the public covered it up. Every 196 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: single one of those House members who knew about it 197 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: and didn't tell the public covered it up. Every single 198 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: person in that state House who knew about this guy 199 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: and that egregious behavior as a state reppers, as a 200 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: state senator, someone who is voting on I mean, this 201 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: guy has serious issues. You do not. I mean, look, 202 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: people get drunk, they make mistakes like that. We're not 203 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: talking about that. We're talking about a guy who has 204 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: so little control over himself while the session's going on 205 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: that he's a point two eighty three in the middle 206 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: of the day day drinking. 207 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think that one of the news outlets 208 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: in Northern Indiana would pay for that to get it. 209 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm hoping if somebody goes first, so 210 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: we don't put any effort into it. But that's ridiculous 211 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: that you have to pay a penny to see what 212 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: this guy who was acting as a state rep was 213 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: in the session. Well, then we have to pay to 214 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: see this to get the truth that we pay for 215 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and then we have to pay to 216 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: pay to get that stuff that we pay for our stuff? 217 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: Is this so expensive just to get it? 218 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know. That's hopefully there will be a 219 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: revised estimate when they send that back to him, because 220 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: that is ridiculous. 221 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 222 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: So another one of Jim Orsay's houses is for sale. 223 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you got an extra twenty million laner round. 224 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: Okay. So this is a lake house in Lake Max 225 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: and Cookie Max and Cookie and Culver beautiful. There there 226 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: were so many there was an X, and anytime there's 227 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: an AX, I get nervous and I don't want to 228 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: say and then the word cookie and I just like 229 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: I did what to I would call it Lake Max. 230 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Oh okay, very good. Well we could have gone with that, 231 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: but I was just starting to make sure I pronounced 232 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: all of the things properly so somebody didn't say, excuse 233 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 1: me of saying something inappropriate. 234 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: I used to do a lot of work there in 235 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: Culver when I. 236 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: Was yeah, that's your neck of the woods. 237 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, doing the TV thing, and I never realized that 238 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: Jim Mersey had a twenty million dollar lake front of state. 239 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is a thirteen nine and fifty six 240 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: square foot home. So by comparison, my house is roughly 241 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: sixteen hundred square feet. So let's see, I'm gonna do 242 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: a little maskie quickly here on the air. Remember when 243 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: they said you won't always have a calculator in your pocket. Case, Yeah, 244 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: four two thousand divide by sixteen hundred. That's almost nine 245 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: times the size of my home. That's his little, his 246 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: little getaway cottage. Yeah, is basically nine times the size 247 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: of my my my. 248 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: House, eight bedrooms, twelve baths. 249 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: Oh, you get six acres with the two Yeah, it's 250 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: got a elevator. Yeah. Okay, So nineteen point nine million 251 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: is the asking price. They previously sold his Carmel estate 252 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: for twelve million dollars or as a pending offer. How 253 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: would you lose the pending offer if you could get 254 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: to the final like that. It happens with regular people 255 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: like we. We were in and then we didn't get financed. 256 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say to financing. 257 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: Can you if you make it to the end on 258 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: the twelve million dollars. 259 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: Proved, well, I show that you have that money. 260 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: Didn't really Rob made it to the final step of 261 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: the twelve million dollar Carmel Manton. 262 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: And then the financing fell through. Sure it did. 263 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: I mean I think when you go on a tour 264 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: like that, you have to show the brokerage account where 265 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: the money is before you even get through the door. 266 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm guessing anyway, So I'm going to read you 267 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: this is Encore sought the Bees International. Really they should 268 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: use Mark didel. I don't know why they're not using 269 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: Mark Didle to sell this, but anyway, this is State. 270 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: By the way, Indy Star has the article if you'd 271 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: like to read the full thing. This is State Home 272 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: is one of a kind in the Midwest. It's not 273 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: just a home. It's a fully realized lifestyle estate that 274 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: combines European architecture, recreational activities, and privacy. So let's talk 275 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: about Jim or Say and the Colts again for a second. Okay, 276 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: we were led to believe that this guy would pack 277 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: up the team and flee to another state and couldn't 278 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: fund his own stadium and was going to do that 279 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: unless they took money from you and gave it to him. 280 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: The guy who's selling his second home for nineteen point 281 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: nine nine million dollars just sold a house for twelve 282 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: million and were led to believe that he couldn't pay 283 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: for his own stadium. Now look at how he was 284 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: abusing the money that was given to him. Clearly unless 285 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: this Washington Post article which that guy was on yesterday 286 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: with Hammer Nigel and that was fascinating. 287 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that timeline was incredible that. 288 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: Jim Mercy was clearly using. We talked about this a 289 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: little bit with Ryan Hedrick yesterday. The gran Gios in excess. 290 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: He was afforded by the way. He's trust fund kid. 291 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: He did nothing to earn this. He didn't make it. 292 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: He's not a Forrest Lucas or somebody like that. He inherited, 293 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: the wacky kid inherited the team from his wacky dad. Period. 294 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: He became a billionaire because he was given something by 295 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: his eccentric father. There's no if zans or buds about it. 296 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: He wasn't some great football mind. He wasn't some guy 297 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: who made a bunch of stuff. He wasn't some guy 298 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: who built himself from the ground up. His old man, 299 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: what was it the air conditioning business that his old 300 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: man made his money in, and then they bought a 301 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: football team and then they moved it here. He was 302 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: given everything he had in life, and he had so 303 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: little appreciation. And this may sound harsh, I don't care 304 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: because he hasn't given two damns about all the money 305 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: he took from me, and he took from you, and 306 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: he took from Kevin Nora's that family. So I don't care. 307 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: I am So can you tell case I have reached 308 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: the up for which I cannot stand. Yeah, not just 309 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: with the government, but the people who weaponize and manipulate 310 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: and utilize the government for their own benefit at the 311 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: expense of us. Harsh lessons today because somewhere out there's 312 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: we're celebrating Labor Day, there's guys digging ditches, putting down roofs, 313 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: building doors, sweating their asses off, and they get money 314 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: taken from them. So now that this guy and now 315 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: the family can have all the luxuries of life. And 316 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: what did Jimmers say do with his luxuries of life? 317 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: Look at how he lived his final days, despite the 318 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: fact that he ran a multi billion dollar franchise, that 319 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: he he had a billion plus dollars of taxpayer investment 320 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: in the public's money, somebody else's stuff, he had so 321 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: little regard for that that it appears to be his 322 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: final days were just one overdose after another. Yeah, just 323 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: one abuse of himself after another. In a weird way, 324 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: the grandiose and excess that we gave him probably led 325 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: to his demise, right. 326 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: Because he's always trying to one up and it's. 327 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: Totally fair game. Because Hammer and Nigel had a great 328 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: discussion about this yesterday about well, you know, he's somebody's dad, 329 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's a father, he's a person you 330 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: would want to write to privacy. Agreed, But you give 331 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: up the right to privacy. 332 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: When you're getting taxpayer money. 333 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, your hole. The biggest portion of your worth is 334 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: derived from taking money from somebody else. And I have 335 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: a choice in it. You don't have a choice in it. 336 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: Kevin doesn't have a choice in it. So yeah, I'm 337 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: going to be critical when somebody that is getting a 338 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: billion dollars plus. Now we're not even talking about the 339 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: sweetheart Deally got inside of the stadium and getting to 340 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: keep all the stuff goes on. I'm talking about just 341 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: the tax increases on people. When you have so little 342 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: respect for me, You should be honored that you're given that. 343 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: You should be thankful beyond believe. And he pissed his 344 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: life away, and that's who we were invested in. 345 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 3: Right, it makes you question those decisions. 346 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: Yes, it's what's why the franchise is a train wreck. 347 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: Look at who the owner was. Why is the city 348 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: a train wreck? Look at who the mayor is, look 349 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: at their personal issues, Your business or the city in 350 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: the mayor's case, is a reflection of you and the 351 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: Colts in the past seven or eight years. As presumably 352 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: this issue has gotten worse, if you believe the Washington 353 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: Post reporting, it's a reflection of him. 354 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: And it was hidden the problems. 355 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: Sure that covered it up. Yeah, I mean the idea 356 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: that that interview was fascinating with Hammer Nigel Ebert. You 357 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: go back and listen tomorrow. If you believe this guy 358 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: the twelve days after he's basically dead and brought back 359 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: to life in Carmel. In Carmel, they have to go 360 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: get him again. 361 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: Did it again in Florida? 362 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: I think it was at Florida in Florida, like, you 363 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: would never all these private companies now the IDC is 364 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: given money to et cetera. They would never do that, 365 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: even as shading as shifty as IDC is, they would 366 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: never give the amount of money we gave the Colts 367 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: if they had a CEO that behaved in the manner 368 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: that Jim Mersay behaved in. 369 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: Right, and why was he allowed to? I mean, why 370 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 2: was that acceptable? Was it because of so much money 371 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: that the city in Indianapolis would make off of the Colts. 372 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: It's a good question. I think it's what Well, well, look. 373 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: We're going to look the other way because it's an 374 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: economic driver for the city. 375 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: In fairness, In fairness, well, look, Jim Mercey is a 376 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: rotten dude for what he did to the city. To 377 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: know how much people love your thing, your team, your franchise, 378 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: how people invest in professional football, and to leverage that 379 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: love it was really evil. The people ask like, why 380 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: are you always so fired up about this? Because I 381 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: think this is we're getting to the core of who 382 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: I am. What Jim Mersey did to the city in 383 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana was evil. The fact that he 384 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: knows the investment, the emotional investment that people have in 385 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: a pro sports team, and he utilized that for his 386 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: own personal benefit to the max, to the most extreme. 387 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: And that is just looking to look at a city 388 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: and go, if you don't give me what I want, 389 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: not only the thing that I want with the stadium, 390 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: but all the sweet art deals that come with what 391 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: goes on inside the stadium. 392 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave. 393 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave. Yeah, that's rotten to the core. That's 394 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: nasty behavior. And look, I get that, I'm one of 395 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: the you people out there, certainly in the media, certainly 396 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: with this platform as the cohony. He's just saying, I 397 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care what they think of me. 398 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm a taxpayer, I'm a lifelong Hoosier. I'm a lifelong 399 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: resident of Central Indiana. And I've thought this was gross 400 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: from the moment it took place almost twenty years ago now, 401 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: and so when I see stuff like this that he 402 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: was sitting on the like this is a second home 403 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: for me to go to, and realized that I, by 404 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: force helped pay for this and he had so little 405 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: respect or appreciation for it that he couldn't even get 406 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: his own personal life in order. Yeah, you damn bet, 407 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something about it. 408 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 2: It is Kendall and Casey. 409 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: It's ninety three WYBC. 410 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: So you're telling me an old man Cracker Barrel speaking out. 411 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: Old Man Cracker Barrel's the founder of Cracker Barrel. 412 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: There's actually a guy. Yeah's a guy who is the 413 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: founder of. 414 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 3: Cracker he's ninety three years old. 415 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: In some enterprising local television station found him and talked 416 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: with him. 417 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: What's his name? Do we have the guy's name? Does 418 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: it say what his name is? 419 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: Herschel is old Man Herschel, old man Herschel. 420 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 4: His name is Dan Evans. 421 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: Dan Evans, not to be confused with Bob Evans. 422 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: Evans. 423 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: So think at one point Dan Evans and Bob Evans 424 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: were competing. We're in ferocious competition with each other. Okay, 425 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: So what did old Dan have to say? 426 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: He did not like the new rebrand that Cracker Barrel 427 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: tried to pull off logo rolled out the other day. 428 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 5: Oh that's crazy, that's nothing. That's a land, nothing, a beautiful. 429 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: Do you think she knows the story of Cracker Barrel. 430 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 5: I don't think so. I heard she was a Tacoldbell. 431 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 5: But what's Taco Bell know about Cracker Barrel and count food? 432 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 5: And the food is something that need to work. All 433 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 5: spending seven hundred million dollars to do that is all 434 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: not just throwing money out the street. 435 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: Okay, I can't trust you two people for anything like 436 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: y'all are way off on this. This Dan Evans guy, 437 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: it's not even Evans, it's Evvins with an I. He 438 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: died thirteen years ago, Kevin, this guy died in twenty twelve. 439 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: Well, this guy, he's the founder. 440 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: No, right here, I just googled founder Cracker Barrel. This 441 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: guy popped up. What's his name? They gave his name 442 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: right here, right here he is. He's right on the 443 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: he's running the camera. Tommy Low, Tommy Low, ninety three 444 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: years old. This is the guy you two are banned. 445 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it. 446 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 4: So Tommy, he's the co founder. 447 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: The guy died in. 448 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: Twenty twelve, Caviny Cabby giving an interview. 449 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: So who did they talk to this Tommy Low guy? 450 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: And who's Tommy? 451 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: Maybe he's just made up? 452 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: Is he posing at the founder of Cracker Barrel? 453 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's right here now it's his co founder. 454 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the ko fat Well, I'm. 455 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: Having the news on the fly because you too can't 456 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: get it right. 457 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 4: That's a pretty understandable mix up. 458 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: I think, Kevin, all you had to do is google, like, 459 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: go to the news, go to the news, the news section. 460 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: There's not gonna be news on Dan Evans. He's been 461 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: dead for thirteen years. Gosh, you two, geez Louise. Anyway, 462 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: so that guy's name, Dan Evans was not speaking from 463 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: the grave. That was Tommy Lowe. 464 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: The co founder of Cracker, the co founder of Cracker, right, 465 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: and he is ninety three years old. 466 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it says. 467 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: And he was taking aim. 468 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: At the CEO's attempt to rebrand. 469 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: Apparently started the Cracker Broil for ten thousand. 470 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: Dollars and he didn't like it, taking seven hundred million 471 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: dollars to rebrand. 472 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: A company that didn't really need rebranding. 473 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the lesson of this though. I 474 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: just I'm gonna do all this on my own now, 475 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: I can't trust either one of you. Two. I put 476 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: two of you on it. The guy's name right, all right? 477 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: What else are we doing? What other Google searches should 478 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: I do before we start the story? What are we doing? 479 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: I want to know? I know you guys. You did 480 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: the podcast for the sports yes, right. 481 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: The podcast for the sports better known as Degenerates next 482 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: Door Sports Betting podcast right at gambling stuff on Twitter. 483 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: And you did you go through all of the games 484 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: for the weekend and make your predictions. 485 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: They're just just like one games. Okay, so who two? 486 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: We got two games? Two games? 487 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 3: What are you going to be doing for the Notre 488 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: Dame game? 489 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: I can't give that away then nobody would click on 490 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: the podcast. 491 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: No, no, I mean what are you going to be doing? 492 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: Ending? What are you going to be doing? You're going out. 493 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: Of town or I am going out of town? 494 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 1: Are you're flying? Did you find a flight cheaper than 495 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Ireland? 496 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 6: Well? 497 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: I told you I'm using points. 498 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 499 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: You know, if you have like a Southwest credit card 500 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: and you use that, you get points, so. 501 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: You almost never fly? Do you do you have enough points? 502 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 6: Yeah? 503 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: I got enough points because I haven't flown in a 504 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: long time. So yeah, I get on the Flying Metal 505 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: Death Tube this afternoon. 506 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: Oh you on the death Tube? Help wish me the 507 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: bast Are you going to Washington, DC? 508 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 3: I'm actually flying into Baltimore. 509 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: Oh go see your daughter? 510 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 6: HM? 511 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: Is your husband going with you? Is he's staying here? 512 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: Well he's already there. 513 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: Oh he's already there. 514 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well so we're going to drive back then? That 515 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: should be fun. 516 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: Regular Maybury Reunited. Oh that that actually makes great sense. No, 517 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: that's actually very start. So he drove, You're gonna fly 518 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: and then you'll have a car to get back, right exactly. 519 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: That's very well. Uh, that's very well thought through. How 520 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: did we get on that? Why did you bring that up? 521 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: How did I bring that up? 522 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 3: Well, I asked you what you were going to be 523 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 3: doing for the Notre Dame. 524 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm bartending. I gotta pay for a fridge. 525 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 3: Now, during that's true, you do, Yes, I told. 526 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: You that I took this bar, this private event bartending gig. 527 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: I did it last year. It was a blast. They 528 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: basically just hired me to go hang out with people. 529 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: If are you a bartending Saturday night though. 530 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: The Notre Dame game is No, it's Sunday, Notre Dame 531 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: game Sunday night, right, Yeah, Sunday night. You're bartending Sunday 532 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: because September versus Labor Day, correct, where we celebrate laboring. 533 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 2: To all the people. 534 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I know, I have to. I have to. 535 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: I have to bartend. So basically my weekend is going 536 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: to go, oh, go look at a fridge, make that purchase, 537 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: spend more on a fridge than I want to spend. 538 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: Then go try to work to pay that off, and 539 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: then it's the charmed life I live. That's it. That's 540 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: the extent of my weekend. Okay, Kevin, I'll live vicariously 541 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: through you. You're probably doing something fun this weekend. 542 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 7: I might see Jason play a show producer Jason Greenwood, 543 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 7: our former producer Jason who used to be uh on 544 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 7: this show and Tony's show, And uh yeah, he's a 545 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 7: he's a weekend warrior musician. 546 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: He does shows all across central Indiana. You should do that. Yeah, 547 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: go have fun for me. 548 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 4: Check it out. 549 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 550 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: Well, problem is Groce is refrigerator shopping. You go have 551 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: fun for him. 552 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: And the problem is I can't even go tonight because 553 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: I got all these football games. I gotta run, so 554 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: I can't I get it will be tomorrow, so it'll 555 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: be I had this conversation with somebody yesterday. I know 556 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: you and I have had this before. What did I 557 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: do with all my time before? 558 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 5: Like? 559 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: Where did it go? I don't know, Kevin. Do you 560 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: ever ponder in the moment because you have nothing but time, 561 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: like what do you do with all your time? Do 562 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: you ever sit around and go like where did the day? 563 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: Where did it go? Because you don't even I mean, 564 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: you have a responsibility give to be at work. We 565 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: have a responsibility like you know, mortgage or child or 566 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: spouse or whatever. Like do you do you ever ponder 567 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: that I never did in the moment I wish I had. 568 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I try to be productive, but you 569 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 7: know there's some days where. 570 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: You just have wasted the entire day, and I wish 571 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: I could have all that time, Like if you could 572 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: just bank time in hindsight, if I could just banked 573 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: all the time that I wasted doing who knows what 574 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: because I didn't even I'm like Kevin have to go 575 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: to work. I worked from home, like I didn't do anything, 576 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: and I really only worked on Fridays and Saturdays for 577 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: most of that time. 578 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what you do is I don't 579 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: know what I did? Well? 580 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: I did? 581 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 6: I know. 582 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean I know some of the things that I did. Yeah, 583 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean some of the some of the are etched 584 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 1: in my mind very clearly. Yea, But I I can 585 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: talk about that what I'm saying in general, like what 586 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: did I do, say between noon and eight each day. 587 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 588 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I know what I did 589 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I just I like, I have no 590 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: time now and I used to have nothing but time. 591 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: And if there was a bizarro Have you ever pondered this, 592 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: where like if you were like, what if I could 593 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: just take the best of this world and combine it 594 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: with the best of this world which is totally illogical 595 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: and can't happen, But in my OCD riddled mind, I 596 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: could do that. I could do that. I could take 597 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: the best of all my worlds and put them into 598 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: one world. Then I wish I could have the life 599 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: that I have now, but with all the time that 600 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: I had before. So I don't know if that I'd 601 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: need like twelve extra hours in each day or what, 602 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: But I wish I could just do that. Is that nuts? 603 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 6: No? 604 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: I fet like institutional type of novel. 605 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people would like that. You 606 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: just want the best of everything, right. 607 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: Like I was about to say, if you could take 608 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: the best of the Republican Party and the best of 609 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: the Democrat who are they? But then I've realized, Yeah, well, 610 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: you have lots. 611 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Of time now that your kid's gone, Like what do 612 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: you do with all your extra time? 613 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, Rob, what do I do 614 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: with all of my time? Where does the time going? 615 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: I know all the things you spend your time on 616 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: these days, But I'm saying, like, have you noticed a 617 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: difference since your daughter moved to Baltimore? Like that you did? 618 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 2: I spend all my time worrying? 619 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my point. Yeah, So is that that's probably 620 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: even worse than somebody it is? Yeah, right, mm hmm, Yeah, Yeah, 621 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: that would be worse because now you have no control 622 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: and you're a control freak, so you have no control 623 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: over the situation anymore. True, you're basically at her mercy 624 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: to call or make good choices or all the stuff. 625 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So seventeen point four million people are going to 626 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: go through TSA this weekend, traveling American airlines. They say 627 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: they anticipate three point nine million people across thirty six 628 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: five hundred flights. Imagine that at any time this weekend, 629 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: thirty six five hundred planes up in the sky. 630 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: You ever ponder how they don't run into each other. 631 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: That's amazing, isn't it right? That the plane there? 632 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: Could be a highly stressful job to be an air 633 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: traffic controller. 634 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a guy went to high school. I grew 635 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: up with he's a he's a air traffic controller now, 636 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: and that's a pretty that's a yeah, you're right, I 637 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: mean that's a you can't be playing around on your 638 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: phone like I mean, you're playing on your phone right now. Well, no, 639 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: I broadcaster. 640 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the facts here. One in four people 641 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: plan to travel this weekend, so. 642 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: Well, travel like by various means correct? Yeahah, yeah, I don't. 643 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't want any job that involves any responsibility whatsoever. 644 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: And an air traffic controller that's a high high. I 645 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: mean you got them coming and going. 646 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: I think you're in a good spot. 647 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Well that's why I'm here. 648 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have no responsibilities at all. 649 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I do this lot where I like to like 650 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: just lament how things turned out for me, but then 651 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: not except any additional responsibility that could make things better 652 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: for me. 653 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: You don't plan on doing any sort of barbecuing or 654 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: anything like that, like on labor take a break. 655 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: No, the tyrant day care is closed, so the tyrant 656 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: will be. I'll be, I'll be. 657 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: You can't barbecue. 658 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: Maybe still searching for a thrill out, I mean she's there. 659 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: I may still be searching for a new refrigerator. 660 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: Casey unless one of our listeners just drops one off 661 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: in your veway. 662 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: Nobody's nobody's stepped up yet. We're running short on time now, 663 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: and my wife, I don't think, is going to let 664 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: me say, let's just play it out through the weekend. 665 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: Well, if you are out and about this weekend, one. 666 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: Of our anonymous listeners will step. 667 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: Make sure you'd be careful because there's going to be 668 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: a thirty percent increase of traffic. 669 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Like on the road. 670 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody gonna be out and about, some people shopping 671 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: for refrigerator. 672 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: You know, statistically it is more dangerous. Do you ever 673 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: wonder what the Labor Day sales like? They probably just 674 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: jack up the prices and then tell you it's a sale. 675 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: You're just getting a safe so you can feel good 676 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,239 Speaker 1: about your purchase. There was some store I thought they 677 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: proved that years ago that always had sales, but they 678 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: were just pricing things higher before before they would give 679 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: you the sales. You're basically paying the same thing, but 680 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: you felt better about yourself. 681 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: At least you feel good. 682 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: It is Kendally Casey, it's ninety three WYBC. 683 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 6: Gett yourself, say two. 684 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: Yes, send and said well Center Robert straight to hell, Casey, 685 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: it's our last segment for the next four days. 686 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: I know, are you so excited for the long holiday weekend. 687 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Labor Day, shall we? Yeah, let's talk 688 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: about what's going on in this country and like it's fastening. 689 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: You and I were talking for on air today about 690 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: how it just seems like everyone is not everyone, but 691 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people are really asleep about what's going on. 692 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm petrified, but I'm also fascinated that it's 693 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: been allowed to happen in this country. Because of any country, 694 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: as we've proven on numerous occasions, has an ability in 695 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: which the citizens can rise up and fight back against 696 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: government abuse, it is the United States of America. Sure, 697 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: and yet we are we are. It's a mixture of 698 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: play cating and dumbing down and everything the American citizen, 699 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: the American worker, Labor Day to the point where I 700 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: just I it doesn't seem like it's going to happen again. 701 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: It seems like like they're just like you made a 702 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: good point. You said, somebody who you know who is 703 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: very in tune to the Washington DC culture just basically 704 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: said Americans rang and file, Americans are just becoming slaves. 705 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean we're just being taxed on everything 706 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 2: all the time, and what can we do about it? 707 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: What does anybody want to do about it? We complain, 708 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: we try and sway our lawmakers, and they just go, 709 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: they're there, pat us on the head and go and 710 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 2: do what they're going to do. 711 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: But why don't we ever do anything about it? Like 712 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: sort of our theme today has been about this thing 713 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: for almost every show. Hello, it's Kennell Casey show. You know, 714 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: it's been about our government and how there are clearly 715 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: rules for thee and not for me, about how you 716 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: basically get literally a get out of jail free card 717 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: if you're in the government. 718 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 2: Correct, how we started the show today. 719 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: And yet for some reason, they abuse our money, they 720 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: abuse our liberties, our freedoms, they set separate classes. They're 721 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: taxing us into oblivion. I mean, let's face the utilities 722 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: are taxes the way they're set up that you know 723 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: what's going on with that, the property tax, and yet 724 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: people still in this country don't seem day to day bothered. Well, 725 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people like to bitch, but who's actually 726 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: standing up to do something about it? And isn't it fascinating? 727 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: How many people will scream at us for being the 728 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: people who are like, hey, this is really unfair, right, 729 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: So where does it end? That's my question, Like why 730 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: don't people see it? Or do people see and they 731 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: don't care? So why and where does it end? Well? 732 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 3: I don't have the answer for that, unfortunately. 733 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: I know. 734 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 3: It's very frustrating. 735 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: Rob. 736 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: It's an interesting time right now, isn't it, Because not 737 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: only do you have all of this going on with 738 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: all of the taxing and the inflation, and it's getting 739 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: very expensive just to live. There's also this, you know, 740 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: the AI revolution is coming, and is this all going 741 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 2: to come to a head at the same time in 742 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: twenty thirty four. 743 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what people are saying. 744 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: By twenty thirty four, most jobs will be unrecognizable because 745 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 2: of AI. Well where does that leave the American worker? 746 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: Yeah? And like I said, I wanted to close with 747 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: this kind of discussion today because it's Labor Day, which 748 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: is celebrating a celebration of the labor movement in this country, 749 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: and part of the labor movement, a big part of 750 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: it was the idea of elevating people out of the 751 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: position they were in, the idea of the American dream 752 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: was is, to some extent, lifting yourself up out of 753 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: the position you're in and into a better life for 754 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: yourself and so that future generations will be able to 755 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: have that. And in this country now we're seeing people 756 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: not only not being able to elevate themselves, but because 757 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: of crushing inflation, acts as utility bills, et cetera, their 758 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: economic status is being driven downward. Minish sure, and it's 759 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm in Do you ever have 760 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: those dreams where something's going on, like you're watching your 761 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: own dream? Have you ever had that where like you're 762 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: you're clearly you're in a dream, right, but you're watching 763 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: things that are going on and you're trying to I'm 764 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: sure there's some like psychiatrists or whatever, people who study 765 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: dreams who have come up with some reason or some 766 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: horrible thing that's going on in your life if this 767 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: is transpiring, But like you're watching everything going on and 768 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: you're trying to talk to people in your dreams and 769 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: no one will listen to you. Yeah, this is what 770 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: I feel like. 771 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 3: Or you're running and you just can't get there. 772 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: Yes, Like I just I feel like this is what's 773 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: going on. But it's real life where we're here every 774 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: day going no, no, no, please please look at this. Please 775 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: realize that none of these people are good guys. Please 776 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: realize that the letter means nothing. Please realize who can 777 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: you get any worse than the two, three, and four 778 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: in this state? Micah Diego, Rokita and all this stuff 779 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: going on with those guys. And yet there's a there's 780 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: a pocket of people who, when we present the evidence 781 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: to them, will turn it back on us and go, no, 782 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: you're the bad guy, right because you're telling us what's 783 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: going on. And I feel like every day we're here 784 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: just screaming about whether it's it's the General Assembly or 785 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: these bureaucrats or the governor or the aforementioned three stooges, 786 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: and yet nobody is listening. And it's going to be 787 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: too late. 788 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 3: I wonder often. 789 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: You know, we've had a lot of discussions about the 790 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: data centers and how much energy they suck, and it's 791 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 2: going to become a real issue here in Indiana. And 792 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: the back of my mind, I keep thinking, well, obviously, 793 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 2: coming to Ron, he knows something that this is all 794 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: gonna be okay, and he's just he's just not telling 795 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 2: us because he can't because of you know, security clearances 796 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 2: or so I just keep thinking, like, hopefully they know 797 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: what they're doing. They have as sole coming. 798 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 3: You've been here, like I have to believe that to 799 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 3: continue on. 800 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: But you've been here three and a half years. Do 801 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: you think they do? 802 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 2: I do. 803 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: No, I don't, Okay, no, I don't. 804 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 3: But I have to like hold on to that hope 805 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: that maybe somebody somewhere knows what they're doing. And I'm 806 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: just it's like a leap of faith. 807 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: Right. But here's the thing we have played to you 808 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: today in various segments. So let's think about some of 809 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: the things we talked about today. Mike Bohatchik, State Senator, 810 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: was so drunk that the panda expressed people sounded the 811 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: whistle on him. Right, he was basically almost four times 812 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: the legal limit intoxicated. By the way, as we talked 813 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: about earlier. The best part about this now and media 814 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: people and I was talking with MEETIA people yesterday about this. 815 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: Now you can get the body cam footage. Oh yeah, 816 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: so you may spare yourself from prison, Palski, but not embarrassment. 817 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: That bodycam footage is going to be awesome. The guy, 818 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to drink and eat his food. 819 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: He's so drunk while the officer giving him commands. He 820 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: got no punishment. 821 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 2: Well, look at Jim Lucas. 822 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: Well, look at Lucas. But okay, there's the first part. 823 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: You think if that were you, you would have gotten 824 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: basically no punishment, which is what that guy got. He 825 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: should be getting more punishment because of his position of 826 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: trust and said he gets next to nothing. Then you've 827 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: got Bo Baird speaking of o WI guys. Bo Baird, 828 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: who had an OWI years ago, hit it from everybody 829 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: and then ends up in the in the state House. 830 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: He's on Breitbart. We played the audio of you laughing 831 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: about how, oh, we were never serious about annexing. 832 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: Those counties in Illinois. 833 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big joke, right, but we got 834 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: publicity about it. They're willing to just use your time 835 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: and resources and money yours that belongs to you to 836 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 1: do their little stunts and games. He thinks that's funny. 837 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: Nothing's ever going to happen to him. Why because his 838 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: daddy's a congressman. Nothing's going to happen to him. We 839 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: played you that clip from the town council meeting where 840 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 1: I said, can someone please, as a taxpayer, just tell 841 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 1: me how much of my money went into bringing this 842 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: harp or Colin's mega development to my town. 843 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 3: No, no, you don't get the answer. 844 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. 845 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 3: Is it because they don't want to tell you? 846 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 2: Or is it because they don't know? 847 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: It's a mixture of both, like like it's I think 848 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: it's a mixture of both. I think it's a mixture 849 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: of On the very lowest level, these people are just 850 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: pressing buttons. They're just just the like, just just give 851 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: me my check and I'll do whatever I'm told. But 852 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: then I think you get into the Congress, the state House, senate, 853 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: congress people, senator level, I think you got some genuinely 854 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: maniacal evil people who really hate you. And I think 855 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: when you mix the lazy and the uninquisitive and the 856 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: just just button puncher people with the maniacal evil people, 857 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: this is what you get in this country. And so 858 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: as you celebrate Labor Day on Monday, you better wake 859 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: up because you may not be laboring for much longer. 860 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: Much longer. The laboring you may be doing sooner than 861 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: you think is in a food line somewhere. People better 862 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: wake the hell up of what's going on in this country. 863 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: What an uplifting way to I was. 864 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: Thinking that as you were looking at me, I was thinking, Wow, 865 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 2: this is so positive as we leave it. 866 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 3: No, that's the thing, and like I said, I just 867 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 3: keep holding on to hope. That boy, they. 868 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: Must surely they have the answers because they would not 869 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 2: do this to Hoosiers or to the American people. 870 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: Now you get to tell everyone to have a nice 871 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: three day weekend. It's been a pleasure working with you 872 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: this week days. 873 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 2: And on that note, thank you Rob, thank you Kevin, 874 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 2: thank you for listening. Have a great Labor Day and 875 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 2: we'll catch you