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Speaker 1: Well, I was there for about a quarter and a half.

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Speaker 1: two queryisms, Eddie that I'm most proud of, and only two,

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Speaker 1: so I shouldn't even say that I'm most proud of them.

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Speaker 1: There are two queryisms that I'm proud of. The twenty

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Speaker 1: phone chargers. Correct. I have always said, what is the

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Speaker 1: not in this regard, Ah, somebody dropped their sunglasses in

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Speaker 1: new sunglasses. I've wondered this, how much if you dropped

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Speaker 1: Totally totally fell but you'd need a fish in net. Okay,

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Speaker 1: always said cornerbacks and offensive linemen are like sunglasses and

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Speaker 1: But the injury bug, as always happens with your cell

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Speaker 1: One other big event that took place over the weekend,

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Speaker 7: It's everything, right, the operation that canunication in the huddle,

433
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Speaker 7: that checks getting guys on the same page. The consistency

434
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Speaker 7: of all that obviously is going to play a big

435
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Speaker 7: factor in this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So with that, when he says that, what he

437
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: is saying is it's the stuff we don't see. And

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Speaker 1: if it's the stuff we don't see, and I want

439
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Speaker 1: to make very clear, none of this is a personal

440
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Speaker 1: indictment on either of these guys. I don't know either

441
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Speaker 1: of them personally. This is football conversation. And if this

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Speaker 1: is about beyond what you see in terms of the

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Speaker 1: statistics or the body language or the footwork or the

444
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Speaker 1: arm rotation or the ball placement, if it's above and

445
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Speaker 1: beyond that, and that's why Daniel Jones is in the mix,

446
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Speaker 1: then that is an absolute indictment on Chris Ballard by

447
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Speaker 1: Shane steike In indirectly, because what that is saying is

448
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard had to make the most important decision of

449
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Speaker 1: his general manager career when everybody knew finally the time came,

450
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Speaker 1: and Jim Mersey essentially said the time is now to

451
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Speaker 1: select a franchise quarterback that is going to be the

452
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Speaker 1: future that this franchise is going to ride with because

453
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Speaker 1: we had Andrew Luck and he retired. And yes, Zach

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Speaker 1: Keeper has a fascinating column about Andrew Luck that he's

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Speaker 1: going to talk about with jamb at four o'clock today

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Speaker 1: where Andrew Luck said that he wanted originally to play

457
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Speaker 1: until he was forty to forty five years old. But

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Speaker 1: with all of that said, what this means is that

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Speaker 1: Shane Steiken sees this as look, there's more to it

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Speaker 1: than what you folks can see. And what he is

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Speaker 1: saying by saying that if he goes with Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: that's still a big if. But if his decision is

463
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, then theoretically that decision is rooted in what

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Speaker 1: you just heard right there. Shane Steikeen is making it

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Speaker 1: a point to tell you the fans and to tell

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Speaker 1: the media that this battle is above and beyond simply

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Speaker 1: the physical nature of playing the position of quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: if that's the case and he opts with Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: what he is saying, is Chris Ballard took a risk

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Speaker 1: on a player that everyone said there was question mark

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Speaker 1: about whether or not he had the experience and the

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Speaker 1: maturity to understand everything going into being an NFL quarterback,

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Speaker 1: And even through redirection of benching him and bringing him back,

474
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Speaker 1: bringing in competition and trying to give him wake up calls,

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Speaker 1: he still is hitting the snooze button. And as a result,

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Speaker 1: I'm going with Daniel Jones, and that means that, in

477
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Speaker 1: my opinion, you can't go back from that, and that's

478
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Speaker 1: an indictment on the ability to measure all aspects of

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Speaker 1: the most important decision that Chris Ballard had to make

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Speaker 1: as a general manager. Now. I don't think in any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form that Chris Ballard and Shane Steiken have

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Speaker 1: some sort of between them. I think they probably work

483
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: very well together. But Steiken needs to win now. Who

484
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Speaker 1: knows how long Ballard's leash is. But Steichen wants to

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Speaker 1: win now, and he's going to look at it and say,

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Speaker 1: you're asking me to make the decision, and if he

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Speaker 1: goes with Daniel Jones, it's going to be for the

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Speaker 1: reasons you just heard. Because from a ceiling standpoint in

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Speaker 1: terms of on field production, Richardson's is theoretically much higher

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Speaker 1: and more intriguing. But back to the point about Steichen

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Speaker 1: and Ballard. Carly Ers Gordon talked about having those two

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Speaker 1: men and she said something that I thought was a

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Speaker 1: little bit nuanced. And yes, it's my job to armchair

494
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Speaker 1: quarterback this, but I don't think in armchair quarterbacking this

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Speaker 1: that I'm off base. She said something very interesting to

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Speaker 1: me here. She is talking about the relationship between Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard and Shane Stikeen. She references Rick. She's talking about

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Speaker 1: Rick van Curry. She's talking to Greg Extohn, Rick Venturi

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Speaker 1: on Saturday.

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Speaker 6: We are so.

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Speaker 5: Grateful to have christ and Shane, because I think Rick

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Speaker 5: can probably speak to this. If you're a head coach

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Speaker 5: and you don't get along with your general manager and

504
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Speaker 5: you don't trust them, it's a total nightmare. So I

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Speaker 5: think the great thing about Chris and Shane is they

506
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 5: don't always agree, but they they discuss it, and I

507
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Speaker 5: think they make better decisions because they each have a

508
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Speaker 5: unique kind of approach that I think makes us better

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Speaker 5: as a whole.

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Speaker 1: When she says, when you have a coach and a

511
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Speaker 1: general manager, I'm paraphrasing that don't see eye to ey

512
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Speaker 1: or don't get along. I can't remember exact wording there.

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Speaker 1: It's a nightmare. I'm going to rephrase that. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to repeat it. When you have a coach and a

515
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Speaker 1: general manager that don't get along, don't see eye to eye,

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Speaker 1: it's a nightmare. That's coming from somebody you're not taking

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Speaker 1: She's not speaking hypothetically there, she's speaking from experience, because

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Speaker 1: this is a franchise that has seen a quarterback or

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Speaker 1: excuse me, that have seen a general manager and a

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00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: head coach that did not get along and see eye

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Speaker 1: to eye. And one of the errors of Jim Mersey

522
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Speaker 1: was that press conference where he had Ryan Grigson and

523
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Speaker 1: Chuck Pagano's standing next to him, attached at the hip kumbaya,

524
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Speaker 1: and then they did not get along. They did not

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Speaker 1: see eye to eye. And guess what that turmoil led to,

526
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Speaker 1: Obviously a complete division. It led to a general manager

527
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Speaker 1: and a head coach that did not get along with

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Speaker 1: one another. We consider and go till the cows come

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Speaker 1: home on which one of those two minimums at fault?

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Speaker 1: Which one was whatever? But the reality is you then

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Speaker 1: went through a process where you had that nightmare she's

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Speaker 1: talking about, she's been through that before, and what she

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Speaker 1: is saying right there is indirectly I'm not going there again.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going there again. But if Shane Stiken goes

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones and not Anthony Richardson, does Chris Ballard

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Speaker 1: then go back to him and go, Look, I know

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Speaker 1: that I gave you, the head coach, the authority to

538
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Speaker 1: make this decision, but you have now taken my biggest

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Speaker 1: decision that has been put on my plate and usurped

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Speaker 1: it by saying that it goes above and beyond, and

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Speaker 1: it illuminates an area of weakness that I was supposed

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Speaker 1: to have had in a check off throughout the process

543
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Speaker 1: of vetting whether or not I'm selecting this guy as

544
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Speaker 1: my franchise quarterback. And thus, do you then get into

545
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Speaker 1: a situation and does that storm like the one on

546
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Speaker 1: Saturday night go from being simply cloudy to now all

547
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Speaker 1: of a sudden lightning and furious wins. That's wins with

548
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Speaker 1: a D, not wins with a wi ins. That's I

549
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Speaker 1: think that's where they are right now. Do I think

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Speaker 1: Ballard and Styke can get along?

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Speaker 4: Shure?

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Speaker 1: Do I think do I get Ballard credit for giving

553
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Speaker 1: the authority to Stiking for this, Yes, but that becomes

554
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Speaker 1: a very very potentially difficult situation if you go with Jones,

555
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Speaker 1: because you are saying the one area that you were

556
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: supposed to evaluate more than any other. I have, now,

557
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: through my own inventory, determined that that evaluation fell short,

558
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: and we've done everything we can to try, not once,

559
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: not twice now, but like three different times to give

560
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Speaker 1: the wake up call, and he hit the snooze button again.

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Speaker 1: Mike Chapel joins us. Nineteen minutes. We'll discuss that a more.

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Speaker 1: Mike chap I'll going to join us coming up top

563
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Speaker 1: of the hour. We'll get back into the Colts conversation

564
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Speaker 1: about the quarterback and the things that you know, Carly

565
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: or say Gordon had to say that Shane Steichen had

566
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Speaker 1: to say. The other big story is that locally of

567
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Speaker 1: the Sophie Cunningham injury and today an MRI on the

568
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Speaker 1: right knee find out the assessment and the time period

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Speaker 1: in which Sophie Cunningham would be gone for the fever.

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Speaker 1: The reason that this is I think particularly pertinent is

571
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that we talked Eddie a while

572
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Speaker 1: ago with the Kaitlyn Clark injury, the groin injury of

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Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Clark. We had the discussion when she first began

574
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Speaker 1: missing games of kind of targeting this period of time

575
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Speaker 1: where you look at the if you look realistically at

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Speaker 1: the time frame of schedule, you know, we kind of

577
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: circled yesterday, right, Hey, if they can get to that point,

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Speaker 1: then they've got some time off. If Sophie Cunningham and

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Speaker 1: this is a big if, I realize, and there's a

580
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Speaker 1: danger in getting too far into the weeds of you know,

581
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Speaker 1: ifs and butts, I realize, if she is unavailable for

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Speaker 1: an extended period of time, or more importantly, if we

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Speaker 1: find out that Sophie Cunningham, like two of her teammates before,

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00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: is now out for the year, does that then make

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00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: less relevant the time frame of return of Kitlyn Clark.

586
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Speaker 1: And do you then contemplate giving Kitlyn Clark the year

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Speaker 1: the rest of the year to not return and not

588
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Speaker 1: jeopardize further injury, or do you owe it to the

589
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Speaker 1: rest of that roster to say, we've got to put

590
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Speaker 1: out the best product possible.

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Speaker 3: I think you owe it to the rest of the

592
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Speaker 3: rest of the rest of the roster today. Look at

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Speaker 3: what Kelsey Mitchell has done this season. She's been one

594
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Speaker 3: of the best players in the WNBA, and she won't

595
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Speaker 3: be off of consideration for MVP just because the team

596
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: is not, you know, at the top of the standings

597
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Speaker 3: like they projected to be. And you owe it to

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Speaker 3: Natasha Howard who signed to come here to Indiana to

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Speaker 3: compete for a championship. You owe it to all these

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Speaker 3: players that have stepped up in the absence of Kaitlyn

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Speaker 3: Clark to not full ten and just you know mail

602
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Speaker 3: in the rest of the season. They're still in positioning.

603
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: They're sixth right now in the standings. I think they're

604
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: right there, just two games out of fourth, Like there's

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Speaker 3: still an avenue for them to have a home court

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Speaker 3: advantage on a series. And Caitlyn Clark's been out for

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Speaker 3: over a month now, so you would have to assume

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Speaker 3: that she's coming back relatively soon. And I don't think

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Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark is going to go for sitting out for

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Speaker 3: the rest of the season either.

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Speaker 1: The I would agree with that last part. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a.

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Speaker 3: In you resting Kitlyn Clark for the rest of year

614
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: doesn't help you in any way, shape or form, because

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00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: most of this roster isn't back next year.

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Speaker 1: As if it helps you, I'm speaking in hypotheticals here

617
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: playing Devil's advocate, But what if it helps you, Eddie

618
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: by not If there is the chance that she is

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Speaker 1: not one hundred percent or you run the risk of

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Speaker 1: furthering an injury, then do you And it's a really

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Speaker 1: bad comparison, but I'm just saying it for the sake

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Speaker 1: of like, look at Tyre's Halliburton, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: I mean Haliburton absolutely that he had to be on

624
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Speaker 1: the floor. I mean, I get it. But you knew,

625
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: as did Tyres Haliburton, as to Kevin Prichard, as did

626
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Speaker 1: Rick Carter. I mean, everyone knew when when Haliburton went

627
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Speaker 1: out there, that there was the risk of that injury

628
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Speaker 1: furthering by him being out there. Now the stakes they

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Speaker 1: were at, you got to do it. If Clark, if

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Speaker 1: they are able to determine and I don't know that

631
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Speaker 1: we would ever know this, but if medically speaking, they're

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Speaker 1: able to determine that a Caitlin Clark injury that playing

633
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Speaker 1: could complicate or advance her injury further potentially, do you

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Speaker 1: then say you're not going out there. Does this, in

635
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Speaker 1: any way, shape or form impact effect the level of

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Speaker 1: tolerance you would have for future risk of injury?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. She seemed pretty much shut down for

638
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 3: three weeks. It's like you would assume that the progression

639
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: of this slowly integrating her back in is to prevent

640
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: they have how many game long term injury? They have

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00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: nine games left? I mean that's a fair amount, right,

642
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: It's not like there's two games left. I mean that's

643
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Speaker 3: a fair amount. But you know that's a that right there.

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Speaker 3: That question is going to come up almost assuredly, though,

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Speaker 3: is it not? Because today, well yesterday for that matter.

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Speaker 3: I mean I've had twice I've had people ask me

647
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Speaker 3: in the last since this injury, gosh, what does that

648
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: mean for the return of Kitlin Clark? And what is

649
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: the level or the extent of the injury of Kaitlin Clark?

650
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Speaker 3: Because there finally was kind of a discussion on her

651
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Speaker 3: coming back, right.

652
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: There has been Yeah, we're still to win. Let me

653
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: rephrase that, not coming back like getting into game next week.

654
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Speaker 1: But I'm saying of upping the workload and mixing her

655
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: back in right now.

656
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: Last week she was running sprints up and down the court,

657
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: and they were starting to work on her condition, and

658
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: she was back on the team this weekend for personal reasons.

659
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: So none of the players that were injured going into

660
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: the game yesterday were with the team. So Erry MacDonald

661
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: wasn't there, Sidney Colson wasn't there, and Kaitlyn Clark was

662
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Speaker 3: not there.

663
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Speaker 1: Okay, so I shouldn't say for personal reasons. There was

664
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Speaker 1: an unfortunate you know, obviously a loss for her boyfriend's family.

665
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: Grandfather or grandmother passed away, and so there was there

666
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Speaker 1: was the maybe unfair assumption or connection that that would

667
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Speaker 1: be why she miss did not travel with the team.

668
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: I wasn't even aware of that.

669
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, his her boyfriend's grandmother unexpectedly passed. She had

670
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Speaker 1: not been ill, she had a she unexpectedly and then

671
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark was not with the team either way, understandable

672
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: either way, right, And the fact that that was the

673
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: benchmark itself. Did you watch any yesterday? By the way

674
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: of the there was a it was a primetime football

675
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: game last night, was there not?

676
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 3: Yeah? Bears Bills? Yeah?

677
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: Did you watch any of it? Did not? How much

678
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: preseason football do you watch?

679
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: I literally only watched the Colt starters and then I

680
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: shut it right off.

681
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: You didn't watch Ulysses Bentley.

682
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: I did not, did not watch.

683
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: I think if we got Ulysses Bentley on the show,

684
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: do you think he'd be offended if I did his voice?

685
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: I was thinking it might offend him.

686
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: It's a good question.

687
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: I think it might because it would offend me. If

688
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: somebody's like, this is what I think of, Like Jake

689
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: Querry's sounding like, I'd be like, but that's not who

690
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, I mean I think there's an element

691
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: of but the name sounds that way.

692
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: Right, it does.

693
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's correct.

694
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 3: He did not play terribly, I think right, he's impressed

695
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: and j telling you there's like with the injuries now,

696
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: Khalil Herbert has been dealing with an injury. Tyler Goodson

697
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: left the game in the sling with in a sling

698
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: with a left elbow injury, Like at a nutrition, is

699
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: he going to make the roster?

700
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: Things are starting to look up for our boy. We

701
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: thought he was going to be in Apollo Clubs come Saturday,

702
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: but he may be stuck in Indianapolis. I just like

703
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: doing the voice, to be honest with you, doesn't it.

704
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean, where would you think you lissen Sis Bentley

705
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: if you didn't know differently, where would you guess he

706
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: went to college Cambridge probably Oxford London School of Economics.

707
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: That literally sounds like the East, Like, oh yes, he

708
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: went to a New Brunswick prepaicad of me in Maine.

709
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: I want to see him make the roster, and I

710
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: want to thank people that actually sent me a notification

711
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: when he was playing well and had hard runs. I

712
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: had several people that texted and or tweeted me in fact,

713
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: saying you before making it happen, Let's go love it.

714
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: Mike Chap, I'm gonna join us next lot to unpack.

715
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: You just looked at me like I'm crazy.

716
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 2: Eddie.

717
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 3: I forgot to update. We had to switch arou because

718
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: there is a Colts zoom at one o'clock. So mister

719
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: chappels at two o'clock and Pat Boylan is at one.

720
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: So here can we do? You have the breaking newshounder

721
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: We need to rewind sounder. That just goes to say

722
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: that we're rewinding what we just said, so take out

723
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: what I just said, breaking news. Pat Boylan joining us next.

724
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: We will discuss the Sophie Cunningham situation and the Kaitler

725
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: Clark situation as well. We'll do it on the other side. Okay,

726
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: let's get you caught up on the headlines so far today.

727
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: Xavian Howard is in for the Colts. Former Pro Bowl

728
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: defensive back, most recently with the Miami Dolphins, thirty two

729
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: years old, has not played in over a season, but

730
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: did to have experience in lou An Arumo's defense, and

731
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: the Colts are in desperate need of experience at that

732
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: position because attrition has certainly hurt the defensive back room,

733
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: and so he is in the mix. What does that

734
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: mean for the rest of the roster That has yet

735
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: to be determined. The quarterback situation, Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson,

736
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen is hoping to have a decision on that

737
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: within the week, and I think there are implications and

738
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: ripples from that depending on which way he goes. I

739
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: know he is very high on Daniel Jones, and I'll

740
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: be honest, he does not seem equally high on Anthony Richardson.

741
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that to say that there's like

742
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: a personal thing. He just keeps going back to talking

743
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: about how it's above and beyond the physical traits of

744
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback that make you determine who is going to

745
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: be your starter, and the fact that he keeps going

746
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: back to that it makes you just feel like he's

747
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: leaning one way. And then the Fever yesterday, the injury

748
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: to Sophie Cunningham after or that was before, I should say,

749
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: a tremendous comeback, and the Connecticut Sun yesterday joining us

750
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: now to talk about that. Pat Boiling is the television

751
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: voice of the Indiana Fever, joins us on the always

752
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: busy and once again available to be sponsored guest line,

753
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: Pat we will Sophie Cunningham is having an MRI today

754
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: as I understand it. Do we know when we may

755
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: have more clarity on that?

756
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, No, the Fever will have fortunately a couple

757
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: of practices they haven't had many lately here coming up

758
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 2: in the week. So my hope is maybe middle later

759
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: of the week, Stephanie White will have an updates. But

760
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: as of now, you know, I think we'll just have

761
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: to wait and see the results of that MRI and

762
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: what we hear in the coming days.

763
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to this in terms of before we

764
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: go into like I guess the Doom and Gloom have

765
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: yet another injury, and it has been a franchise that

766
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: appears to be snake bitten. But the good of yesterday,

767
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, the bad news You get down to a

768
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: team in Connecticut that you've had a lot of success

769
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: with and that has struggled this year. But the comeback

770
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: that they had that was facilitated or done in what

771
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: way aside from the heroics of Kelsey Mitchell, who was

772
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Speaker 1: just spectacular.

773
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it wasn't just Kelsey Mitchell. That would

774
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: not be you know, giving enough credit to numerous other

775
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: players of Leah b Austin, Obyssey Simms, who both played well,

776
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: but this was you know, in my opinion, largely Kelsey

777
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 2: Mitchell having a heroic put the team on her back

778
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: type moment. Now, it was certainly a team effort. They

779
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: improved defensively significantly right around the midway point of the

780
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: third quarter, which what I thought was interesting about the

781
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: comeback was I thought, if you were going to see

782
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: signs of that comeback happening, you see it right after halftime.

783
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: You know, the Feaver went into the half really on

784
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: a down note, really struggling, and then came out in

785
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: the third quarter. And actually when the lead hit its

786
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: large was after halftime. It was in the third quarter.

787
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: It was somewhere around the seven minute mark of the

788
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: third quarter it got to twenty one point. So there

789
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: wasn't this immediate like energy boost right out of halftime.

790
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: It was kind of midway through the quarter, which made

791
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: the whole thing, in my opinion, even more impressive and

792
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: even more improbable. A they had less time to just

793
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: accomplish it, but be you know, they took an initial

794
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: punch from Connecticut after taking a few, and they still

795
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: were able to regroup and put it all together. You know,

796
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: Connecticut is not a great offensive team. So I kept

797
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: thinking as this broadcast was going on, if the Fever

798
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: can lock in defensively, they've still got a chance here.

799
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: They're going to need a big time effort and big

800
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: time efforts from numerous players, But if they can lock

801
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: in defensively, then they've really got a shot. And in

802
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: the third quarter, until Laila Lacan threw in, one of

803
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: Connecticut's guards threw in a very difficult three pointer at

804
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: the buzzer, But before that the Fever had given up

805
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: twelve points in the third So I think it was

806
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: a combination of Kelsey and Mitchell just going nuclear, but

807
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: the defense really tightened up in a major way. And

808
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: you know, as has been discussed here, that twenty one

809
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: point comeback was the largest in franchise history, and if

810
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: you look at some of the other comebacks, the previous

811
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: largest was twenty in twenty nineteen. But in that game,

812
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 2: the fever were down by twenty early mid second quarter,

813
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: they had a lot more time to do it. So

814
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 2: to have the comeback that they did, and really to

815
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: have to start midway through the third was even more impressive.

816
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: Pat, if we got into this earlier, and I'm curious

817
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: your thought on it, and this is and I want

818
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: to be clear here, I don't want to put you

819
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: in a bad spot because I realize your position is

820
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: the television voice. But we're just going to speak it

821
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: two guys sitting around over beer nuts. Okay, if if

822
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: Sophie Cunningham's injury now is one that causes her to

823
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: miss extended time or the remainder of the season, do

824
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: you believe that that in any way, shape or form

825
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: would impact the timeline or the thought process of timeline

826
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: on Caitlin Clark's return.

827
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so. And Stephanie White's beIN asked

828
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: the version of that question, albeit not with Sophie Cunningham,

829
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: but she's been asked, you know, just about every iteration

830
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: that question that you can ask. You know, if the

831
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: team is playing better, for example, when they went on

832
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: that five game winning streak, does that make you she

833
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: was asked more willing to hold back longer on Caitlin Clark,

834
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: Or if the team is struggling now, does that make

835
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: you want to push, you know further or try to

836
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: get her back sooner? And the answer has always been,

837
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: we're going to do what's best for her, and we're

838
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: going to do what's and what's best for her is

839
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: ultimately what's best for the team here. So, you know,

840
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: does it change the dynamic of the future of the

841
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: season potentially, And I don't want to speculate, I don't

842
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: know that that's the case. And we'll find out, you

843
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: know here, hopefully in the next few days, or at

844
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: least get more of an indication on what's going on

845
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: with Sophie cunning And it really is a incredibly frustrating injury,

846
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: not just because of all the injuries the fever have

847
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: been dealt, but she had been playing so so well,

848
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: the second best three point shooter since mid July. She

849
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: had gotten all the way up to fourth and three

850
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: point percentage in the WNBA going into that game yesterday.

851
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: So she has been a real real weapon for this team,

852
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: and especially for a team that's not just missing Caitlin Clark,

853
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: but it's without Erry McDonald and without Sydney coltson the

854
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: rest of the year. As you know, and as has

855
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: been discussed on this station, the Fever played a game

856
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: without a point guard. I thought Odyssey Simms, by the way,

857
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: was terrific yesterday. And a hat tip to you know,

858
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: Kelly Crosstoff and Ambercox for finding her and getting that done,

859
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: because a player that wasn't even here a week and

860
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: a half ago was really pivotal in that big comeback.

861
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: She's the point guard. But what had happened is, as

862
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: all of these other point guards had gone down, Sophie

863
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: Cunningham had moved to a more on the ball roll

864
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: and then you lose her to injury, and so you

865
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: lose another ball handler. So, you know, I think the

866
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark potential return date still it's in its own vacuum.

867
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything that influences it here. It's

868
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: about you know, her getting to the point where they

869
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: feel fully comfortable, hopefully her getting some practice time and

870
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 2: then going from there.

871
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 4: You know.

872
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: Stephanie White said yesterday she still was hopeful that that's

873
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: happening this year. But until she starts practicing, I don't

874
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 2: think that return date, you know, become any leader. And

875
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: we are here, you know, in the mid August, and

876
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: the season does end early September, so it'll be something

877
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: to watch here in the in the coming days and weeks,

878
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: I think. But just just really a devastating loss and

879
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 2: hopefully not one that is long term for Sophie Cunning,

880
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: and for numerous reasons, but the top one being just

881
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: how well she was playing and how pivotal she's been

882
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: to this team lately.

883
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: Pat Boiler our guest, he is the television voice of

884
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: the Indiana Fever Fever yesterday winning and overtime over Connecticut.

885
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to expand on that, Pat, tell me what

886
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: Sophie Cunning. Give me the one or two things that

887
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: she does that are going to be the hardest to

888
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: replicate in her absence.

889
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to suggest that the team without

890
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 2: her is missing fire and passion, because what better example

891
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: have you seen of that than right after Sophie Cunningham

892
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: went down coincidentally, but you know the comeback yesterday was

893
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: right after her injury, in fact, about a quarter after

894
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: her injury. But you know, she has this unique ability.

895
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: It's it's a little like TJ McConnell. She has this

896
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: unique ability I think, to fire up teammates, you know,

897
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 2: to to turn the tide of momentum or when things

898
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 2: are going well, to turn when things are when momentum

899
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 2: is in your direction, to really turn that knob to nine,

900
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: ten eleven, if you will, on on just the momentum

901
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 2: side of things. She has the ability to do that

902
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: at like few Fever players that I've seen, and I

903
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: think t J McConnell. Their styles are different, so it's

904
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: not apples apples there, but it reminds me of McConnell

905
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 2: in the way that she's able to get the crowd

906
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: fired up, She's able to get her teammates fired up,

907
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: and she can just be that positive lightning rod when

908
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: you have her. And so the Fever, I think their

909
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 2: togetherness and their resiliency. Look, I know those things can

910
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: sound cliche and can be cliche, and a lot of

911
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: coaches say them, but yesterday with a great example of

912
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: just how true it is with this Fever team. And

913
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: it's something that you know, Stephanie White comes on the show.

914
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: You've known her for a long time. I've known her

915
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: for a long time too, and she's not somebody that's

916
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: going to just say things. To say things. This team

917
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: has a terrific togetherness, a terrific chemistry, you know. I

918
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: think all of the challenges they face this season, especially

919
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: some of those early in the season, have helped this

920
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: team bond together. So to answer your question on Sophie,

921
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 2: it's the firiness and the passion and then of course

922
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: the three point shooting that is tough to miss if

923
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: you don't have her. But I do think it's something

924
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: that this team does have in state, does have a

925
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: fair amount of even if they don't have her. But

926
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: they'll miss that for sure if she misses time here,

927
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: and hopefully if she does miss time, it's not an

928
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: injury that keeps her out for the rest of the year.

929
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: But again, you know, we'll hopefully know more on that

930
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: in a couple of days.

931
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: Hey, Pat, how many variations of teams have the Fever

932
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: had this year? Does that make sense what I'm asking?

933
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, six, seven, eight. You know, I haven't

934
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: really thought of it in that way of like putting

935
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: it down on paper, but I have thought of it

936
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: from this perspective. If you look at that opening day

937
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: roster and what you were expecting and what you were

938
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: anticipating this team to be. Look, every team deals with injuries,

939
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: every team deals with, you know, significant things that they

940
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: weren't expecting to happen at the beginning of the year.

941
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: It's felt like the Fever have had like five seasons

942
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: worse of that in this season and it feels like

943
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: we're on iteration seven or eight of this. I don't know,

944
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 2: I'd have to sit down and put it to paper,

945
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: but it's especially significant if you know, I know, we

946
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: have a lot of Pacers fans and NBA fans have

947
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: taken a lot more interest in the w over the

948
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: last couple of years. It's especially significant when you consider

949
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: it's a forty four game season versus an eighty two

950
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 2: game season. I mean, the Pacers didn't really get going

951
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: last year until somewhere around game twenty five, game thirty, Well,

952
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: in the WNBA, if you don't get going until game thirty,

953
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: that's three forced the way through the years. So it

954
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 2: feels like every five games there's a different iteration of

955
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: this team due to injuries.

956
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 4: Or you know.

957
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: Obviously, the de Wanta Honor situation at the beginning of

958
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: the year was kind of the first major change to

959
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: the roster, and I think they've done a really good

960
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: job on the fly in all of this. I mean,

961
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: if you were to consider that you don't have Caitlin

962
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: Clark for more than half of the year, and your

963
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: other two point guards would have gone down, and the

964
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: Ilana Bonner's situation which happened is the Sophie Cunningham injury.

965
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: By the way, this is her third injury this year.

966
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: If you would have looked at all of that and

967
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: said nineteen and sixteen at this point, I think you

968
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: would have been fairly surprised. They're fairly impressed to be

969
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: at this point. The fact that they've dealt with what's

970
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: just been constant turmoil through the course of the season

971
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: for numerous reasons, and to still be sitting here two

972
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: games away from having a home court advantage in the

973
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: first round. I think this is pretty impressive, and the

974
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: last nine games here will go a long way and

975
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: telling the story of this season. But it's amazing to

976
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: me that despite all of this, despite the constant turmoil,

977
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: that they're still in a spot, I think, to accomplish

978
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: every goal that they had at the beginning of the season,

979
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: and so these last nine games in a really crowded

980
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: WNBA standings will be really really important.

981
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: Who's their most versatile player?

982
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: Good question, you know, off the top of my head, it's.

983
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: The available, I should say, of the available, you know.

984
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: Off the top of my head. I don't know if

985
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: this is exactly the direction that you know, you maybe

986
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: would think I would go. But the transformation that Aliah

987
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: Boston has undergone this year without Caitlin Clark has been

988
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: significant because the style of play that she plays. When

989
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark is out there, you know, she's setting high

990
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: ball screens, she's rolling to the rim, Clark is finding

991
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: her down there in the post. And then when you

992
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: don't have Caitlin Clark, I mean, her style is totally different.

993
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: She's playing almost a little bit like when Demonti Sabonis

994
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 2: was with the pacers as an offensive hub right now.

995
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: I mean they're putting the ball in her hands at

996
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: the high post. She's passing, she leads the league and

997
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: assists for centers. She knocked down, you know, a foul

998
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: line jump shot to tie the game and ultimately send

999
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: it into overtime. And you consider that she's having an

1000
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: all Star starting caliber season and in all of this,

1001
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: she's had to play two distinctly different styles. You know,

1002
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 2: I don't know whether that technically makes her the most

1003
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: versatile or not, but I think watching her shift between

1004
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: these two different versions, and by the way, I give

1005
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: the coaching staff, I think a lot of credit for

1006
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: this too, because you know, finding the style that fits

1007
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: a Leah Boston best without Caitlin Clark on the fly

1008
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 2: is not an easy task either. But watching how she's

1009
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: playing now versus how she's playing with Clark is quite different.

1010
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: And for her to still have success in both of

1011
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: those roles, I mean, she had a stretch where she

1012
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: had six straight double doubles and was the Eastern Conference

1013
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,959
Speaker 2: Player of the Week, and all of that happened without

1014
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: Katelyn Clark. And there's no question that she's a better

1015
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: player with Clark on the floor and that Clark is

1016
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: a better player with Boston on the floor, but for

1017
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: her to find success in as many different ways as

1018
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: she has had this season, considering the different personnel on

1019
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: the floor around her, she would probably be by pick

1020
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: for that.

1021
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: Pat. By the way, you you are a Ball State cardinal, right, chirp, chirp.

1022
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 4: Correct?

1023
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: You get fired up from action like I get Ball

1024
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: State football a ton of or mac football a ton

1025
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: of credit because they you know, they own the Thursday

1026
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: night thing now, right? Do you like? How into Ball

1027
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: State football do you get?

1028
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: I certainly follow them. I follow week to week. I

1029
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,959
Speaker 2: wouldn't say I'm a die hard. I'm admittedly a little

1030
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: bit of a fair weather. When they were really good

1031
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: in the COVID year, I was wanting.

1032
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: That'd be that should be fair feather, right because they're

1033
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: the Cardinals.

1034
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe I'm slightly fair feathered.

1035
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair.

1036
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: They've got her due right out of the gates here,

1037
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: new coach for both teams. I'll be interested to see

1038
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: what they look like. But yeah, I mean, the nice

1039
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: thing about quote unquote maction is if you want to

1040
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: follow all of the big top teams in the top

1041
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: storylines of college football. You can do that, and then

1042
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 2: you can also follow MAC team because your MAC team's

1043
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: playing during the week and you don't have to, you know,

1044
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: go to channel eighty five and ninety two on a

1045
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: Saturday at two to find them, or on some obscure

1046
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: streaming site. They're usually on TV. They're on ESPN or

1047
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: ESPN two during the week. So it makes it easy

1048
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: to follow ball State and then also to keep up

1049
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: with some of the bigger college football programs in the

1050
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: big games of the day.

1051
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: You know, you raise an interesting point there in our

1052
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: Flippan seat, Pat, It really is fascinating to me. I

1053
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: just had this conversation with Eddie the other day. My

1054
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: cable system where I live, the area in India that

1055
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: I live, there's only one cable company that you that

1056
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: you can use, right And I had like pretty basic

1057
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: cable because I'm not home a lot, and then all

1058
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden they send me something. They're like, here,

1059
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: you got to use this now. And it's got like

1060
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: three hundred channels and every app and you know, it's

1061
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: all stream and all that. And I get it. I mean,

1062
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: that's the way of the world. I get it. But

1063
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: the advance in this and the bundling packages and the

1064
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: different app packages for literally every sport, and I think

1065
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: it's even bleeding into now the NFL to an extent

1066
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: sports properties. Am I correct in saying, Patty, can you

1067
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: tell me I from off base? But while I understand

1068
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: they need to monetize when and where they can, they

1069
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: run the risk of confusing the average consumer into the

1070
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: point of then that consumer losing complete interest because out

1071
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: of sight, out of mind. Am I am? I literally

1072
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: the oldest guy on the planet when I say that.

1073
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 8: You know, when all of the cable and bundling started happening,

1074
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,959
Speaker 8: I think there were a lot of people that thought

1075
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 8: it was going to be for the better. And I

1076
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 8: think you look at it now, and if we could

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01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 8: just go back down things worse, I think it would.

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Speaker 4: Be all that.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be a whole lot easier. Yeah,

1080
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: it's a fascinating landscape. You know, whether everything you said

1081
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: I agree with, whether that equals you know, the fan

1082
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: losing interest or you know, becoming disinterested in that, I

1083
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: don't know, but it is it can be confusing, you know,

1084
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: especially when conferences or whomever have so many different rights holders,

1085
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: and you know, the Big ten network and then meet

1086
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: Peacock and you're going here and you're going there. Right, Yeah,

1087
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: it's challenge if you want to be a casual fan.

1088
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: That to me is where it's really challenging. Is Okay,

1089
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: I do want to follow ball State football. I can

1090
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: name the quarterback and I can name the coach, and

1091
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: to be honest, after that, there's probably a few players

1092
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: that I could that if you said, oh, yeah, I

1093
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: know him. But that's casual fandom and it's not always

1094
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: the easiest to do that if you have to have

1095
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: six different subscriptions and jump to eight different networks over

1096
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: the course of twelve games, which fortunately you don't really

1097
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: have to do with quote unquote matching.

1098
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So in conclusion, and I mean this sincerely, I

1099
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: mean respectfully, when you are doing Fever games, when you

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01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: Pat Boyle and are doing them, those games are available

1101
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: in how many different places? Or are you doing them

1102
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: only for some of the games depending on where it's airing.

1103
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: Right, So when it's national TV, and by that I

1104
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: mean the w it's on. If it's on ESPN or CBS,

1105
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: we're not doing them, correct, So that those are national crews.

1106
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: And then on Friday nights, those are Ion games, So

1107
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: if they're home, we're doing them Forryon. If their road

1108
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: we're not doing them. And then our local package is

1109
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: on WCHR as you know. And then also FanDuel has

1110
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: a few, So yeah, I mean, you know, just saying that,

1111
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: that is more than a few networks, and you know

1112
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: for the WNBA, which is a growing league. You know,

1113
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: I've always seen that as a positive because if the

1114
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: alternative was something more condensed, it might mean less outreach.

1115
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: To me, the fact that ESPN and that eighty as

1116
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: CBS and well yes also ABC with ESPN and that Ion,

1117
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 2: you know, all want to show these games and to

1118
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: increase the reach of the WNBA, I think is a

1119
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: good thing. That doesn't mean it doesn't come with challenges,

1120
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: and you know, obviously I would love to do I

1121
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: think we do twenty eight of the forty four. Selfishly,

1122
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: I would love to do more. But I love that

1123
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: the franchise gets the spotlight that it does on ESPN

1124
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: or ABC or on CBS. But yeah, I mean, no question,

1125
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: there are six or seven different channels to follow the

1126
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: fever on, and I think we try to do our

1127
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 2: best in educating the fans and having color coded schedules

1128
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 2: and the social and digital posts. But it's it's certainly

1129
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: not turning on just one channel, and there's the fever

1130
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: every single night. That said, our partners at WTCHR, I

1131
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: think have helped simplify that in a major correct way.

1132
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: Well, for so many games, are the WTHR broadcasts exclusive

1133
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: or simulcasts?

1134
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: Those are those are exclusives?

1135
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: Okay, that's yeah. I mean it's listen, I you know,

1136
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: you send it out with each game, and I think

1137
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: I've even a couple of times, like my dad loves

1138
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: watching the games, for example, and that's like one of

1139
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: my duties right is to make sure that we know

1140
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: when and where he's watching it and whatever else. But

1141
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: so I appreciate that clarification. A little bit of time

1142
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: to catch your breath. Obviously a couple of days off

1143
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: we will see what does come of the news with

1144
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: Sophie Cunningham and then how that impacts Caitlin Clark and

1145
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: et cetera moving forward. But appreciate the time today, Pat.

1146
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: Thank you for not making me follow Eddie White. I

1147
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,479
Speaker 2: appreciate getting to be ahead of Eddie White.

1148
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: Trust me. I don't know that I follow him on

1149
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: social media either, if that makes it, If that makes

1150
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: you feel any better, right.

1151
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: You know, I just didn't want to follow a because

1152
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 2: the entertainment factor would be he might have, you know,

1153
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: run you past the one thirty windows. So I will.

1154
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 4: Eddie.

1155
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: Eddie White told me that when you guys had your

1156
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: Pacers dinner, that Eddie White pays for himself and then

1157
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: the rest of you make Mark Boyle pay for you.

1158
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1159
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that's right.

1160
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: I think that's what he said.

1161
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he might have a little revisionist history there.

1162
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: You might have to pin him down on that one.

1163
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: Well let's you know, sometimes the sun in can creep

1164
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: from the hair follicles and you know what I mean,

1165
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: and start clouding judgment. So yeah, I got it, all right,

1166
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: appreciate it, Pat, All right, Pat Bowlin, Pat Boiling joining

1167
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: us on the program. Eddie, you want to share on that?

1168
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 3: Sure?

1169
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: On what is it true that Eddie White pays for

1170
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: his dinner when you guys go to your PACER's Radio

1171
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: dinner and then Boil pays forybody else, but Eddie pays

1172
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: for himself.

1173
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 3: I'll let Eddie answer that question, and then if he's wrong,

1174
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 3: then I'll correct him.

1175
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: So Eddie White went to the Live Golf, is that right?

1176
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 3: He went there on the opening day and then he

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01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: was there yesterday.

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01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1179
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by it because I personally thought that kind

1180
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: of the controversies of Live had gone away, and then

1181
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: when we discussed it, it was apparent to me that

1182
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: they have not. But we will ask Eddie White about

1183
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: that and more, and we'll do it on the other side.

1184
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: Well played on the subtlely here Eddie on the music.

1185
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: Live Golf was from an in person attendance aspect a

1186
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: success in Westfield. And I admit again as I let

1187
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: off the show with my total ignorance on this. But

1188
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: let me before we bring in Eddie White, repeat what

1189
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: I said earlier, and then I want Eddie White, who

1190
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: is a much more passionate golf fan and follower than myself,

1191
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: to expand upon this. I certainly understand that Live Golf

1192
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: when it came about was and when it first was

1193
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: announced was very controversial and polarizing because of the sensitivity

1194
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: of the Saudi government involvement, the politics thereof, and the

1195
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: fact that they, as seen by some people, poached away

1196
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: PGA golfers with incredible amounts of salary for it and

1197
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: trying to kind of shake up the way tournaments are done,

1198
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: and even with the discussion that it was going to

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01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: merge again with PGA, which I think clearly now we

1200
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: can see that that's not going to happen, but we'll

1201
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: get into that as well. It seemed to me, in

1202
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: watching and seeing the reaction from those that attended in Westfield,

1203
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: that one of the things that is very invigorating to

1204
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: fans of live is that it's like the Waste Management

1205
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: Open is the one golf tournament where people can kick

1206
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: back and be loud and play music and be young,

1207
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 1: and every sport now is trying to get that thirty

1208
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: five and under audience, and live golf seems to get

1209
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: away from the traditional etiquette and rules and overall nature

1210
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: of the PGA and is more like a party like atmosphere,

1211
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: and people are intrigued by that. And it goes without

1212
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: saying there are great golfers in it that I understand,

1213
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: but it does not seem that there are many people

1214
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: that are just kind of casual about this. They're either

1215
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: all in or they're all out. Eddie White was there

1216
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: for I believe two of the days out in Westfield

1217
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: and joins us now on the program, Eddie, is any

1218
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: of what I just said within the realm of accurate.

1219
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 9: It's all accurate. And first of all, I'm gonna answer

1220
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 9: your question.

1221
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 4: First.

1222
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 9: You know, I don't get a chance to talk to

1223
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 9: you publicly a lot, which I do enjoy our private conversations.

1224
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 4: But I thought of you the other day.

1225
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 9: I'm gonna answer your question a whole lot of a second,

1226
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 9: I was at the State Fair, and I don't know

1227
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 9: if anything in the world you know, never disappoints like

1228
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 9: the State Fair. You have a crappy super Bowl. When

1229
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 9: you're the State Fair, it's fantastic. And I thought of

1230
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 9: you because you know, and I want to say this publicly,

1231
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 9: there are few people who are absolute, one hundred percent real,

1232
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 9: no phony about them in their advocacy and their flat

1233
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 9: out ambassador role for why we live here and why

1234
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 9: we love living here. I wasn't born here, I didn't

1235
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 9: grow up here, but man, I love this place. It's

1236
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 9: just neat and you're always out there doing stuff promoting that,

1237
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 9: and I want to thank you for that.

1238
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 4: And you're one hundred percent right. And I and I

1239
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 4: just I support you, and and.

1240
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 9: I just wanted to tell you that I want people

1241
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 9: to know that that there's there's a real good person there.

1242
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: And.

1243
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But I'm curious because there's a guy

1244
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: on social media that attacks me all the time named

1245
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: Ed hollerand that says that I hate the Colts and

1246
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: everything about it and that I'm a fake hometown hero.

1247
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, you can.

1248
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 9: You can have opinions and somebody can like the Colts,

1249
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 9: not like the Colts, like the Pacers, like.

1250
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 4: This trade, don't like the trade. That's that's life.

1251
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 9: I mean, I know, in the grand scheme, the big

1252
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 9: picture of the of our country and of our world,

1253
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 9: it's become very me against you, and it's hateful and whatever.

1254
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm from a generation where you can have

1255
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 9: a Democratic presidential side in your yard and the guy

1256
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 9: next you can have the Republican candidate and guess what,

1257
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 9: they shove each other's sidewalks, they help each other out.

1258
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 4: There is no there was no we.

1259
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 9: Can't have that and you could have a different opinion

1260
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 9: and still have great respect for somebody. I mean, you

1261
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 9: and I probably agree on maybe fifty percent of the stuff.

1262
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 9: It doesn't mean, I don't like you because we can

1263
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 9: respect each other's opinion. So that guy's nuts. But you

1264
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 9: can love Indiana and you can love the place. But

1265
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, there's thing that drive you crazy.

1266
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 9: You love Shannon, I love my wife. At times they

1267
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 9: drive us nuts and we think they're one hundred percent wrong.

1268
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 4: We're not going to tell them that because we want

1269
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 4: to stay with them. You know, that's what they're not.

1270
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 4: Back to your lifting.

1271
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 9: I went h Friday to see some people that I

1272
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 9: knew there, and yes, I went.

1273
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 4: To see it.

1274
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 9: And I'm from a generation that a lot of people

1275
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 9: my age and older uh don't like it. Uh. They

1276
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 9: call it gimmick golf, and they don't like the whole

1277
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 9: Saudi thing, which which let's look, let's address that elephant

1278
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 9: in the room right out of the gate. Listen, did

1279
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 9: we not go to China for the Olympics. I think

1280
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 9: China does some bad things to certain people over there.

1281
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 4: Do we not go to Russia?

1282
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 9: Let me ask those people. Are you advocating that the

1283
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 9: city and the state says no to that unbelievable event

1284
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 9: that's gonna come to Lukasol Stadium under the tagline the WWE,

1285
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,839
Speaker 9: The WWE has gone to Saudi Arabia for the last

1286
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 9: ten years. So you're not advocating that the state of

1287
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 9: Indianas is you can't come here, you're with Saudi's. No,

1288
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 9: every country's done bad things. Hello, even the Red, Hight

1289
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 9: and Blue. Okay, so now let's get back to the

1290
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 9: live thing. Yes, it is unique. They're going for the

1291
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 9: younger people.

1292
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 4: Jake. You know me. I've been over twenty Masters.

1293
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 9: I've been to the PGA at Cricket Stick, We've had

1294
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 9: a couple of BMW's, We've had the Solheim Cup, I've

1295
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 9: been to the Memorial.

1296
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 4: I've been to other golf events.

1297
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 9: I've never seen so many kids under the age of

1298
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 9: twenty at a golf event having a blast. Their shirts

1299
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 9: are out, there's noise, there's music, there's activity. And what

1300
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 9: really helped Chatham, and I give Chatham a tremendous amount

1301
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 9: of credit because that course was not built to host

1302
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 9: an event. It was built to sell homes and have

1303
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 9: a golf course for the people who live on the

1304
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 9: homes to play. It wasn't built for a pro event.

1305
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 9: They did a marvelous job. What really helped that event

1306
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 9: is what's something that lived created and is genius. It's

1307
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 9: shotgun starts. There's action on every hole right from the

1308
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 9: get go. If you and what's that voice that you

1309
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 9: do for the guy? You do your thirst and how

1310
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 9: the third one?

1311
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 4: Four?

1312
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1313
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, can you do that for me please?

1314
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: That's correct? Yes, you know I used to enjoy a

1315
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 1: golf until they live. It's a little bit too raucous

1316
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: for me.

1317
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 4: Okay, mister Listens. Would do you have a chalet on

1318
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 4: number twelve? Sir?

1319
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:43,799
Speaker 1: Right?

1320
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 4: If you?

1321
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 1: If you did it?

1322
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 4: Okay, well, if it gets true, because you gotta afford it.

1323
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 4: If you have a chilet on a twelve hole of.

1324
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 9: A regular event, you can have no action for three

1325
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 9: hours and you're just sitting there drinking, eating, waiting. What

1326
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 9: Live did is the action is going on right from.

1327
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 4: The get go.

1328
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 9: It's four and a half hours and then a concert.

1329
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 9: And it was If I picked one word to describe.

1330
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 4: It, it was fun.

1331
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 10: Now.

1332
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 4: Is it everybody's cup of team?

1333
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: No?

1334
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 4: Is it gimmick golf? No?

1335
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 9: I do kind of like the team concept, the shot making.

1336
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 9: How many chippins did we see? How many long putts

1337
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 9: did we see? How many tremendous drives with carries did

1338
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 9: we see those guys can play, and yes they're a

1339
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 9: little long in the tooth, some of them aren't. John

1340
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 9: Rahm could play right now. He can dominate on the

1341
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 9: PGA Tour. They're really good golfers. It's just different. And

1342
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 9: if we learned anything as the years, and in you

1343
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 9: and I case, our case is the decades have gone by.

1344
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 9: What you and I grew up with, the sports that

1345
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 9: we grew up on, like anything else, has totally changed.

1346
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 9: And this is just part Look at baseball, putting a

1347
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 9: guy on second base to start the tenth inning. That's

1348
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 9: something that maybe somebody would do in our little league days,

1349
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 9: not in professional baseball, but they do it. It's just different.

1350
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 9: In this case, it was successful for Westfield. The tagline

1351
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 9: Indianapolis was seen all over the world. I loved incorporating

1352
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 9: the five hundred, having the winner out there and East

1353
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 9: Musen and Tyna having Ron take the bottle of milk

1354
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 9: and pour it.

1355
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 4: Over his head. Who doesn't like that? That is all

1356
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 4: good for Indiana.

1357
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: Well, that's okay. One of the things I found interesting, Eddie.

1358
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: And this is me overthinking things, okay, but I'm curious

1359
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: of this. For Chatham Hills and for the city of Westfield.

1360
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: It was very to me that Westfield in general, the

1361
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 1: city of the town, city, whichever you want to refer

1362
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: to it, but that Westfield was very excited about, understandably

1363
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:49,919
Speaker 1: the imagery the promotion of their community. With this coupled

1364
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 1: with the colts being there for training camp, like the

1365
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: one one leaving while the others coming into town would

1366
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: live right, And then I see it in the entire

1367
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: and I get from a marketing standpoint, why from live standpoint, yes,

1368
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: Westfield is Indianapolis Metro. I mean it's Indianapolis. Nobody knows

1369
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: what Westfield, Indiana is outside of sindral Indiana. I get that,

1370
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: but I'm curious, was there letdown or disappointment for the

1371
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 1: infrastructure of the community of Westfield of having it being

1372
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: internationally labeled as Indianapolis.

1373
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 9: That's a good question that maybe their mayor could answer.

1374
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 9: But I think the financial benefit and I mean all

1375
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 9: the hotels, the restaurants that we had to get gas

1376
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 9: and all the people who got work as either parking

1377
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 9: lot vendors or people rented their homes to players order

1378
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 9: corporations who had parties in the homes. A lot of

1379
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 9: people in Westfield. Again, whatever you want to call it

1380
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 9: a town, a city, or whatever. They made a lot

1381
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 9: of money and it was successful. Now Westfield can go

1382
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 9: out and use that to get other businesses to maybe

1383
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 9: come to Westfield. I mean, Grand Park is incredible. You know,

1384
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 9: the Colts had just moved out, but there was a

1385
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 9: National Championship Softball tournament going on at the same time

1386
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 9: over at Grand Park.

1387
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 4: So if you're.

1388
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 9: Westfield and you're competing with Carmel, you're competing with Noblesville.

1389
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 9: Look what the mayor Noblesville has done bringing the boom

1390
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 9: up there and building that building. I mean, there's so

1391
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 9: much going on north of the city. They're crazy not

1392
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 9: to use the Indianapolis tag. But at the end of

1393
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 9: the day, it's going to be a benefit to their city,

1394
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 9: their borough, their town. Would ever want to call it

1395
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 9: and maybe, yeah, maybe you'd love to have seen Westfield

1396
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 9: on the headline for all the logos instead of Indianapolis.

1397
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 9: But you know, at the end of the day, when

1398
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 9: you do that net net, it was a win regardless

1399
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 9: of any way you want to look at it.

1400
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: Where did things stand? Eddie Eddie White is our guest,

1401
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: of course, you know him on the postgame shows for

1402
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,560
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers and then being the only one that

1403
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: picks up his dinner when he goes to eat with

1404
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:52,839
Speaker 1: Mark Boyle, Eddie win Live and go in the PGA.

1405
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: When Live was first announced, you know, it was this

1406
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,600
Speaker 1: great division and then all of a sudden there was

1407
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: this hoay kumbayad that they were actually going to join

1408
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: forces again and rejoin But where do things stand with that?

1409
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: That seems to have kind of gone on the back burner.

1410
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 4: It really has.

1411
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 9: That's a great way of putting it, because about a

1412
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 9: year and a half ago it was on the front

1413
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 9: burner and you had the guys involved, including Tiger Woods,

1414
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 9: in those meetings, and then it has gone dormant for

1415
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 9: probably a year and a half, and I think maybe

1416
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 9: they both realize, you know what, we're just going to

1417
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 9: try to coexist and see what's going on.

1418
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 4: That The thing to watch now that the PGA tour

1419
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 4: is going.

1420
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 9: To end this season this weekend down in East Lake

1421
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 9: in Atlanta, is where will there be And I'll use

1422
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,520
Speaker 9: your word from earlier poaching, will you know Live supposedly

1423
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 9: gave the nod that they were done after they got

1424
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 9: rom whomember for years that I'm not going to that tour.

1425
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 4: Well he went. But now that they.

1426
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 9: Haven't come to an agreement, does live say, okay, it

1427
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 9: looks like we're still at war. Let's go get some people.

1428
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 9: We're not going to get Scotty Scheffler. But you know

1429
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 9: Rom said no for a couple of years. You know,

1430
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 9: is Rory Now he's getting older and he's one of

1431
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 9: his masters, and you're ready to say, hey, I'll take

1432
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 9: the money and I'll come you hope that.

1433
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1434
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 9: I mean, as much as I love golf, I don't

1435
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 9: know what the solution is. I don't know how you

1436
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 9: could do it. I mean, you can't put a live

1437
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 9: tournament within a PGA event. And you know, maybe you

1438
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 9: do off weekends and have guys that maybe can play both,

1439
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 9: and so you can play on the live and have

1440
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 9: a team concept and the next week we have a

1441
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 9: regular tour event in Charlotte. Maybe that's possible. The money's there,

1442
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 9: The money is certainly there. But to your question, and

1443
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 9: it was, do you talk like you don't know much

1444
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 9: about golf? You know more than you're letting on.

1445
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 4: You're right, it has been dormant for at least a

1446
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 4: year and a half.

1447
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: Okay, then my last question, is this the team I

1448
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: know that lived this weekend crowned like a season champion,

1449
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: and then they have the the individual champions. I guess

1450
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: is that hoky or is this like other things that

1451
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 1: we see, something that the PGA even is going to

1452
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to because that coveted, younger audience

1453
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 1: in a quicker, shorter life span lifestyle is appealed by that.

1454
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: And therefore, even though it seems gimmicky and hokey, it's

1455
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: something not unlike the red, white and blue ball of

1456
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: the ABA and the three point shot that the big

1457
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: league is going to have to pay attention to.

1458
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 9: Well, let me ask you this, who's the best golfer

1459
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 9: on the PGA Tour right now this year?

1460
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 4: By far?

1461
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: Scotty s shefflerud be my guest. I don't pay attention

1462
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: to it on a week to week bas you.

1463
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 9: Are one hundred percent correct, he is the best golfer

1464
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 9: by far. I believe he's won five events this year.

1465
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 9: It's two years in the row, I believe or something

1466
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 9: like that, he's won five. Last guy I do that

1467
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 9: was Tiger, So he's probably the best guy. Well, Tommy Fleetwood,

1468
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 9: who has never won on the PGA Tour, could win

1469
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 9: this week in Atlanta at East Lake and he would

1470
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 9: be crowned the FedEx Cup Champion Golfer of the Year

1471
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 9: and get a lot of money for that winning one

1472
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:01,879
Speaker 9: time this weekend.

1473
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 4: So it's not too.

1474
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 9: Different than what Live just did where John Ram, who

1475
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 9: did not win a tournament all year, he was competitive,

1476
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 9: had a couple of runner ups, but they have this

1477
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 9: complicated system, and you know, he was behind going into

1478
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 9: Sunday's match, beyond a guy who would have won it.

1479
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 9: He played well enough, didn't win the event, got it

1480
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 9: to the extra hole, but at least was so.

1481
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 4: Competitive he won the Golfer of the Year.

1482
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 9: Now this weekend, Live continues to Michigan where they're going

1483
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 9: to have a team championship and they're basically on the

1484
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 9: playing match on Wednesday where eighteen will be eliminated and

1485
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 9: not compete over the weekend. So they have their individual

1486
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 9: champion and now they have their team. Of course PGA

1487
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 9: doesn't have a team, but it's similar but different, but

1488
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 9: not so different that you'd say, oh, what they're doing

1489
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 9: is gimmicky golf.

1490
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 4: It's just different.

1491
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 9: And you and I started this conversation fifteen minutes ago

1492
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 9: talking about it's just different, it's and it may not

1493
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 9: be your cup of tea. And maybe this old part

1494
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 9: that is a Byron Nelson w war his shirt out.

1495
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 4: No, he would not it was different back then, but

1496
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 4: you know what it is what it is.

1497
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 9: And you asked all those people three days in a

1498
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 9: row sold out in Westfield, and I haven't heard one person.

1499
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 9: I've a bunch who been there somewhat just for the

1500
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 9: concert but enjoyed the golf. I've talked to young people

1501
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 9: and old people that more people are now in to

1502
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 9: live because they were here and they had a great

1503
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 9: experience than they were last Tuesday afternoon.

1504
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: So live ain't gonna die. That's what we're getting at, right.

1505
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 9: I don't think so. I don't think so. I think

1506
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 9: it's here and if it may change for that. And

1507
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 9: what's gonna be interesting is, you know, Phill Micholson's.

1508
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 4: Getting old at the point now where he really.

1509
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 9: Wasn't competitive this weekend, but man, he made some long

1510
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 9: punts and he's still the people's champion. But they're gonna

1511
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 9: have to fill some spots and you're gonna have to

1512
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 9: maybe go and get some guys off the PGA Tour

1513
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 9: and the least live is I don't think they're making money,

1514
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 9: but they're making more today than they did ever.

1515
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 4: And you know, look at it. This weekend in.

1516
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 9: Indianapolis was the highest attended event he had the United States.

1517
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 9: Not more than Dallas, more than Chicago, Westfield, Indianapolis. More

1518
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 9: people showed up. It shows us this is a golf market.

1519
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 9: And again I've got to clarify that we.

1520
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 4: Don't have an annual tour event, which is.

1521
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 9: Very challenging the communities because you've got to support it

1522
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 9: year in and year out. But when we bring in

1523
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 9: a BMW or a PGA Championship for a Soul High Cup,

1524
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 9: or in a couple of years, Crooked Stick will host

1525
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 9: the US Senior Open and tiger Woods will be over

1526
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 9: fifty at that time, Hopelly wants to compete, he plays.

1527
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 4: You know, it's gonna be an event. It's gonna be

1528
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 4: an event.

1529
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 9: An interesting little see will Mickelson be able to mend

1530
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 9: enough fences to be able to come back and play

1531
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 9: in that US Senior Open at Crooked Stick.

1532
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: Difference between live and the Hair of Eddie White, There's

1533
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 1: no die and live that much.

1534
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 9: But Pete Dye did design both the courses at Chadam

1535
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 9: and yeah, nice tie in there.

1536
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 4: He did not pay for my dinner with Boyle.

1537
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 9: I let Boyle pay for the whole thing, and hegoriously

1538
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 9: does it and loves doing it.

1539
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe you sent me a text that said differently,

1540
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: but I'll check. Eddie appreciated it. As always fake news.

1541
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 4: Hey, tell Shannon we said, Hi, I love your brother.

1542
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 1: I will do. Eddie White joining us on the program.

1543
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 1: Mike Chappell, By the way, latest on the Colts quarterback

1544
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: deal coming up in twelve minutes. What we're gonna give

1545
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: away spots in the Fantasy Football League at two thirty?

1546
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 4: Eddie?

1547
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1548
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 3: Sounds good to me.

1549
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:38,759
Speaker 1: Jake, by the way, here's a question for the masses.

1550
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 3: Okay, my the masses in this scenario.

1551
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 1: I don't know at your level. I know nothing about

1552
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 1: what I'm about to ask.

1553
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I know my head can cover a lot of masses.

1554
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of this head gasket is what this includes?

1555
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: Oh so I'm not going to say the names. I

1556
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: don't want to get anybody in trouble here. But here's

1557
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: a question for the audience. Okay, my car does not

1558
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: have at least in my opinion, it does not have

1559
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: the number of miles that should have needed a total

1560
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: head gasket replacement. And I realized when I did that

1561
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: in March that was a risk, but because the mileage

1562
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 1: was not high on the engine, I thought, you know what,

1563
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: I'll do this and see where things fall. So in

1564
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 1: March the dealer did a complete head gasket repair for me,

1565
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: and I started getting, you know, the check engine light,

1566
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: and then you know, things were going awry. So I

1567
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: took it in and they just called me during the

1568
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: break to tell me that there is no compression in

1569
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: cylinder six because the clamps and the reservoir hose were

1570
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: not properly reattached. Now I have no idea what any

1571
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: of this means. They have to take the coolant cover

1572
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: off to further determine the problem for or the compression

1573
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: for cylinder six. If four and a half months ago

1574
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 1: I had the head gasket repaired and replaced, does that

1575
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: sound like that would be the issue that I'm having

1576
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: is related to that or totally separate from that. I

1577
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 1: know nothing about cars, so I don't know. I know

1578
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: nothing about cars either.

1579
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 3: Jacob has said something about not being hooked up properly,

1580
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 3: So I would assume that is something that it was

1581
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 3: not on your not your problem.

1582
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't, But how do you prove your fault?

1583
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 4: You know?

1584
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 1: How do you how do you prove it right? Because

1585
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: I took it to you know, my mechanic is the

1586
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: one looking at it, not the dealer. The dealer said

1587
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: that the head gasket should be covered under a one

1588
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: year warranty. But does that problem do you think fall

1589
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: under that category? It almost sounds like I need to

1590
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: take it back to the dealer. But I never trust

1591
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: the dealer when it I'm not saying this specific dealer

1592
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: just in general. I'm using the dealer in air quotes.

1593
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 1: I'm always worried about that when it comes to repair.

1594
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 3: You know what you can do, Jake? I mean you

1595
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 3: make boukou bucks on that any car radio network that's

1596
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 3: do so. I mean you've probably got enough money saved

1597
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 3: up to buy yourself a car, get Boo and Catmobile.

1598
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 1: Cat Mobile a little side car to go with it either. Yeah, hey, Jake,

1599
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: if they didn't fasten the clamps properly, sounds like they

1600
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: owe you a new engine. How do you prove it?

1601
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 4: Though?

1602
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:32,879
Speaker 3: That's my question? Did your mechanic take pictures.

1603
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Good question. A faulty or improperly installed head gasket will

1604
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: absolutely cause a loss of compression in a cylinder. I

1605
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 1: know nothing about this stuff.

1606
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 3: Well, you work in Indy car Jake. I mean you've

1607
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 3: probably got a bunch of mechanic friends you could have

1608
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 3: texted about this as well.

1609
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 1: That's a good point. But those guys working on those cars,

1610
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: those are a whole different animal, right.

1611
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 3: Well, I understand, but I think we should still have

1612
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 3: some sort of level of intellect and knowledge about it.

1613
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 3: Just a standard car.

1614
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: Any of intellect and knowledge of it is superseds mind.

1615
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: I can promise you that the Colts have Are they

1616
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: about to do a reboot as well?

1617
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 3: Are they control alt, deleting and restarting?

1618
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: That is, they're grabbing the they're blowing in the cartridge

1619
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: and putting it back into the Nintendo machine. At the

1620
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, Mike Chapple joins us, we'll discuss next, Okay,

1621
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: big discussion Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones. Mike chappele

1622
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: joins us now as he is kind enough to do

1623
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: each and every week from w XI, I, N Fox

1624
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 1: and I and CBS four Mike, let's begin with this.

1625
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: I have several things I want to unpack, including some

1626
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: audio from Carli urse Gordon from the Colts and Packers

1627
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: game on the television broadcast, where she joined Greg Regstraw

1628
01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: and as well Rick Venturi. As a matter of fact, Chap,

1629
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: if you're cool that, here's what we're gonna do. I'm

1630
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: just gonna play first off, one of the things that

1631
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: she had to say, and I want kind of your

1632
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: your reaction to it. Are you cool with that? Chap?

1633
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, because I just got up the film with Carly

1634
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 11: and her and I were discussing this quarterback situation.

1635
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Okay, well, let's get to that. Let's

1636
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: start with that. I'm blowing, Okay, I was gonna say,

1637
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 1: I mean that, that's believable, knowing your knowing, your connection,

1638
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's that's believable. Okay. So

1639
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: but let's let's begin with this. When she was asked,

1640
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: there were a couple of things, and I want you

1641
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: to tell me if anything jumps out at you, Mike.

1642
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: When she was asked about the quarterback situation, here is

1643
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 1: Carli Ursa Gordon.

1644
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 5: It's the very expensive question. I think that everyone's wondering about.

1645
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 6: And I think the best thing. This is one of

1646
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 6: the best camps we've had in a quite a long time.

1647
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 5: And I think one of the things that we talked

1648
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 5: about in June was there's nothing that like makes the

1649
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:01,440
Speaker 5: I think the good things rises the surface better than competition.

1650
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 5: And I think having Daniel in here with Anthony, he's

1651
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 5: you know, he's obviously had more experience than Anthony, but

1652
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 5: I think that room as a whole, they you know,

1653
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 5: they're competing in camp, but they are you know, they

1654
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 5: they've done things well.

1655
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 6: They've also made mistakes.

1656
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 5: So again it's uh, Shane is going to have a

1657
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 5: tough decision to make, but I feel confident he's going

1658
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 5: to make the right decision.

1659
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: Chap your initial reaction in hearing that.

1660
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, she she's very good. She learned from

1661
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 11: her father a lot as far as being vague, but

1662
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 11: it's an expensive question that's got to be answered. It

1663
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 11: just doesn't. I think that's kind of where it falls on.

1664
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 11: And the competition part, I I just wonder. I mean,

1665
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 11: it's been it's been competitive, and it's kind of been

1666
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 11: a crazy training camp because when one has played well,

1667
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 11: the other's played well, and when one hasn't, the other struggled.

1668
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 11: So I don't know. And have we seen growth from

1669
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 11: Anthony Richardson? Yes? Uh And I really think Daniel Jones

1670
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 11: has sort of been as advertised And whether that's a

1671
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 11: compliment or not, I don't know. Uh so I And

1672
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 11: but this is where we are like reading tea leaves

1673
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 11: and trying to parcel over words. We did the same

1674
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 11: thing with Shane stick and after the game. So I

1675
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 11: don't know that she tipped her hand. I thought she

1676
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 11: tipped her hand a little bit more. She had an

1677
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 11: interview with Colts dot Com I think it was before

1678
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 11: camp or when camp on, whatever it was, and and

1679
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 11: she kind of paireded what I guess Chris Ballard paired

1680
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 11: to what she said about how they're not ready to

1681
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 11: give up on on Anthony Richardson. He's got this great

1682
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 11: potential and they wanted to be here. So I I

1683
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 11: just Doug On, I just want coach to make a

1684
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 11: decision so that the fan base can either applaud it

1685
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 11: or card apart and we can move on until whoever

1686
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 11: that guy is falters, and then everybody will be yelling

1687
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 11: for the next guy to commit.

1688
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,839
Speaker 1: Well, but Okay, Chap, here's where what I find interesting.

1689
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: You mentioned that about you know, Shane Steikeen and having

1690
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,560
Speaker 1: to make this decision. I want to play for you.

1691
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: This is Shane Steiken on the evaluation of quarterback and

1692
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 1: the factors of picking one of these two guys.

1693
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 7: It's everything right, the operation, the communication in the huddle,

1694
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 7: the checks, getting guys on the same page. The consistency

1695
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 7: of all that obviously is going to play a big

1696
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 7: factor in this.

1697
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: Okay, he keeps going back to that. And the reason

1698
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: I mentioned that, Chap, is because it is my opinion

1699
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 1: now that the reason Daniel Jones is still continued in

1700
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 1: this conversation is because all any tie would go to

1701
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. They have more invested in him symbolically they

1702
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:58,879
Speaker 1: he's younger, he seemingly has more upside, He's had fewer starts,

1703
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: he has more intrigue league. But because Shane Stiken keeps

1704
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: going back to and telling us repeatedly that it's more

1705
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 1: than just mechanics, yardage and production, that leads me to

1706
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 1: believe that he feels better about the leadership and the

1707
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 1: intangibles of Daniel Jones than he does Anthony Richardson. Tell

1708
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 1: me why I'm wrong.

1709
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 11: That's what I came away from. I thought that quote

1710
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 11: there was another one. To me, I'm thinking that's Daniel Jones.

1711
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: It just is.

1712
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,759
Speaker 11: And I think it'll be a very interesting discussion. Although

1713
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 11: I think they've already had it, maybe yesterday today whatever,

1714
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 11: between Stikeen and Chris Baller and Carly. I think they've

1715
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 11: had that discussion. And that's what you had to decide,

1716
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 11: is do you want what is is the more noble

1717
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 11: what we're gonna get with Daniel Jones because I think

1718
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 11: you know he's shown US industry with the giants, this

1719
01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 11: is kind of.

1720
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 4: Who he is.

1721
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 11: More better completion, not great, but better completion percentage, certainly

1722
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 11: no chunk play, not enough chunk plays, but and maybe

1723
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 11: a better grasp of things around him. I don't know.

1724
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 11: As opposed with Richardson is my gud the sky's a

1725
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 11: limit and so in the floor is so low with him.

1726
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 11: So yeah, I thought, in my again, I'm still in

1727
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 11: the camp. I think they need to start Richardson because

1728
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 11: because because it's an expensive decision, and they have got

1729
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 11: to know.

1730
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: When you say expensive decision, do you mean because you'd

1731
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 1: be paying thirteen million for Daniel Jones to hold a

1732
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: clipboard or do you mean symbolically.

1733
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:47,719
Speaker 11: Speaking, I'm not being going forward. You're paying Jones thirty

1734
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 11: million whether he holds his clipboard or whatever, or start

1735
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 11: seventeen games. I'm my mind, is I understand? Or Shane

1736
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 11: Steike and and and Chris Baller two? Is who gives

1737
01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 11: us the best chance to win?

1738
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 4: Now?

1739
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 11: They have to win now. I thought Carter did a

1740
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 11: really good job of not answering. I think it was

1741
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 11: Rick Venturi about what needs to be done this year

1742
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 11: and all that. Maybe it was maybe it was Rake

1743
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 11: said ask it and she really didn't answer it, which

1744
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 11: I don't know how I didn't think expect her to.

1745
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 11: But I'm looking more past this year and at the

1746
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 11: end of the season, you've got to know where you

1747
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 11: got with Richardson. Is he your guy or are you

1748
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 11: looking elsewhere? Yes, there's a fifth year option you need

1749
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 11: to exercise. I think it may But if it's if

1750
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 11: it's not Richardson, then who is it. Are you going

1751
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 11: to give Vienil Jones forty forty five million dollars next

1752
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 11: year or are you starting this this quarterback search all

1753
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 11: over again with probably a crappy draft pick fourteen fifteen sixteen,

1754
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 11: because this is not going to this is not going

1755
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 11: to be a four win team. I just I can't.

1756
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 11: I don't see that. So I again, my whole thing is,

1757
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 11: they've got to figure out if Richardson is a guy.

1758
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 11: In my mind, the only way to do it start

1759
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 11: ingim and if he gets hurt or he doesn't play well,

1760
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 11: you binge him. Now the injury. Would he bench himself

1761
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 11: and then you know, okay, this we can't trust this guy,

1762
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 11: and at the end of the season we'll figure out

1763
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 11: whether they're going to trade him, get him whatever. But

1764
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 11: I just think you can't be well, we just don't

1765
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 11: have enough information at the end of the season, and

1766
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 11: maybe you have enough information at already, maybe some segments

1767
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 11: of the team says this guy can't we can't go

1768
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 11: forward with this guy. I can't imagine that because he

1769
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 11: shows you just enough to sort of tease you. Richardson does,

1770
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 11: so I say it needs to be Richardson. I think

1771
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 11: looking get this schedule the first half of the season,

1772
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 11: which I think is so is so conducive to getting

1773
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,839
Speaker 11: off to a good start. But gosh, they need competent

1774
01:36:54,920 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 11: play at quarterback and whether or not Daniel Jones is

1775
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 11: uh level bar sort of is more conducy to that

1776
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 11: or Richardson's you know, three good plays and and one

1777
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 11: bad play, which I can live with. Three good plays

1778
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 11: and three bad plays isn't doable. That That's where I'm at.

1779
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 11: I didn't think Carly really tipped her hand. I keep

1780
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 11: wondering if Stikeen did I really do?

1781
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 4: Yeah? I agree that.

1782
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 11: That's and and and that's but that's where we are.

1783
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: It almost feels like Jap. It almost feels like, honestly

1784
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: like Stichen is wanting us to take the hint.

1785
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I mean that again that that's that's how I.

1786
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 11: Steven Howard and I were talking about that and he

1787
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 11: sort of won me over and we talked about it,

1788
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 11: and I just think that's to me that that rings

1789
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 11: of Daniel Jones. And maybe I'm again way off bas uh,

1790
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 11: but I and I I do think I know there's

1791
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 11: gonna be three voices in the discussion with Carly and

1792
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 11: head coach and GM the boy that the head coach

1793
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 11: has got to make it. It's gotta be his call,

1794
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 11: which if it's two to one, go ahead, Chap.

1795
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1796
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 11: If it's two to one and the one is Singstike

1797
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 11: and who wants this guy? I think you had to

1798
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 11: let the head coach make the call because he's with

1799
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 11: the guy every day. He's calling plays for on every day.

1800
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 11: I hopefully they make the decision. I wish they'd make

1801
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 11: it today and we get the coach on the zoom

1802
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 11: and it's over with. I think he'll make it tomorrow.

1803
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 11: But this needs to end so that we know where

1804
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 11: this team is going forward. Okay, right now, I want.

1805
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 1: To play for you one other clip from Carl ers

1806
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 1: Gordon because I found something very interesting in this, and

1807
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:51,639
Speaker 1: I want to know Mike Chappell of CBS four and WX.

1808
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 1: I n if you caught on to the same thing

1809
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 1: here that almost might have been a Freudian like PTSD comment.

1810
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: This is Carl Orse Gordon from Saturday's television broadcast with Greg,

1811
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 1: Gregstraw and Rick Venturi talking about the working relationship between

1812
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard.

1813
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 5: We are so grateful to have Chris and Shane, because

1814
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 5: I think Rick can probably speak to this. If you're

1815
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 5: a head coach and you don't get along with your

1816
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 5: general manager and you don't trust them, it's a total nightmare.

1817
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 5: So I think the great thing about Chris and Shane

1818
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 5: is they don't always agree, but they discuss it, and

1819
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 5: I think they make better decisions because they each have

1820
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 5: a unique kind of approach that I think makes us

1821
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 5: better as a whole.

1822
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Chap, let me tell you what I took from

1823
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: that that. First off, did anything? Were there any words

1824
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 1: there that jumped out to you in bold or italic print?

1825
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 4: No?

1826
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 11: But then there was one of the little things at

1827
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 11: the end of that where she said, I think one

1828
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 11: of them asks is well, how will you figure into it?

1829
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 11: She said, well, I'll ask the question is like, you know,

1830
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 11: really is that what you want to do?

1831
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 1: But no, I.

1832
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 11: Will Shane Styke and and Chris Power agree on this decision.

1833
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 11: I think there'll be some some some disagreement maybe on

1834
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 11: how they arrive at it, but then then then they'll

1835
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 11: be on board. That's that's the only way it works.

1836
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 11: You just can't you just can't, you know, disagree and

1837
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 11: then not be on board.

1838
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 4: Going forward to whether or.

1839
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: Not that jumped out to me, Chap as somebody who

1840
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: was well aware of witnessed and still goes back to

1841
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: the non working relationship in the end between Chuck Pagone

1842
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:42,719
Speaker 1: and Ryan Griggson.

1843
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, and again you can. I don't think Jim

1844
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 11: or saying Bill Pullyan Broy's hugging in high five in

1845
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 11: meetings all the time. I think. I'll bet Bill Pullian

1846
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 11: drove Shiverse just crazy sometimes I really do, which is fine.

1847
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 11: You can't have a guy that just sits there, nods

1848
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 11: and see, you know, whether it's whether it's your scouts

1849
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 11: or whatever. You've got to have people who push back,

1850
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 11: and that's how you move forward.

1851
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 1: But chap here's what I find fascinating. And this is

1852
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 1: me overthinking it.

1853
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 4: You.

1854
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: You and I had a discussion the other day. I

1855
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 1: think about the fact that you know, I confess to

1856
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 1: you that maybe I overthink things too much, right, but

1857
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 1: in this situation, to me, maybe not even overtly, maybe subconsciously.

1858
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 1: That was the new owner of the Indianapolis Colton. By

1859
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 1: new owner, I mean, you know, newly the highest position. Okay,

1860
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 1: that was her saying, Guys, I've seen it before, Shane

1861
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Stike and Chris Ballard, I've seen it before. I know

1862
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 1: what happens when a GM and a head coach don't

1863
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: see eye to eye and you're not expecting to see

1864
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: eye and eye on everything. But if Shane Steiken goes

1865
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 1: with the decision, because in my opinion, Chap, if Shane

1866
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: Steiken goes with Daniel Jones, then that is taking the

1867
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 1: most important decision from a personnel standpoint that Chris Ballard

1868
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: has had to make as the general manager of the

1869
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, and it is immediately putting into question Chris

1870
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 1: Ballard's ability to decipher whether or not a player has

1871
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 1: the totality to be trusted with the franchise. And so

1872
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: if Shane Stikeen is going to make a decision that

1873
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: somewhat usurps the authoritative judgment of Chris Ballard. That is

1874
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: her preemptively saying to those two guys, that's allowed, but

1875
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: you better not let it put a wedge between the

1876
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: two of you. That was a preemptive statement by her.

1877
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 11: That's why I say, I mean, you disagree, and you disagree,

1878
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 11: but then when the decision is made, then you move

1879
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 11: forward as a unit. But let's keep in mind one

1880
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 11: thing where you say you serve it's the biggest decision

1881
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 11: that Ballor's made. And it's true with Richardson, but Shane

1882
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 11: Steiken was on board with this decision to had to

1883
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 11: be on board with this decision to draft him. Also,

1884
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 11: I mean we all said from the start that Chris

1885
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 11: Battle and Shane Steiken were now tied to Anthean Richardson, right,

1886
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 11: his success or his failure. So in a regard this

1887
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 11: is also in some level Shane Steiken said, well, I

1888
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 11: messed that one up in twenty twenty three, which I

1889
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 11: think smart NFL guys have to do. You have to

1890
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 11: admit you made a mistake, and you know, you stick

1891
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 11: with it for a year, you stick with it for

1892
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 11: two years, and then at some point you have to

1893
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 11: say this is not going to work. And I'm not

1894
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 11: sitting there there with Richardson at all, but at some

1895
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 11: point it's the good money or good money after bad

1896
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 11: whatever the phrase is, you have to say it it's

1897
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 11: not going to work, and we had to move on

1898
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 11: because we've got a good roster and our pay.

1899
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 1: They do have a decent roster, right, I mean they

1900
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: do have a decent roster.

1901
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 11: This to me, in my mind, is a playoff roster,

1902
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 11: a playoff level roster. If they get a level above

1903
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:23,920
Speaker 11: competent play at quarterback. Give me what Cardner Minshew gave

1904
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 11: him in whatever it was, twenty twenty three was a

1905
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 11: little more than that, a little more than that. So uh,

1906
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 11: but but then you're then you're you're wild card or

1907
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 11: you're squeezing in AFC. It's still not a championship roster

1908
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 11: at all. But you're a heck of a lot closer.

1909
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 11: But when when you don't give up, and when you

1910
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 11: don't say you made a mistake, and you keep pushing

1911
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 11: this another year, then then Jonathan Tay, we've had to

1912
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 11: discuss Jonathan Tator's a year older to Forrest Buckner. All

1913
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 11: these guys, Quintin Nelson, you know, all pro guys, and

1914
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 11: you're just letting their their their prime years go by.

1915
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 11: So that that's the proble when you don't know, or

1916
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 11: when you don't know when enough's enough. That's why I

1917
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 11: say I start, I start Richardson and it works for

1918
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 11: it doesn't, And I know a good portion of the

1919
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 11: fan base already says it's not going to work. And

1920
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 11: he can make a heck of a lot stronger argument

1921
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 11: than I can, because he's eight and seven as a starter,

1922
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 11: he's missed seventeen years of injury in two of those

1923
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 11: wins that he's got in his career. He didn't finish

1924
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 11: the game. Gardner Minshew finished wins against Houston and Tennessee.

1925
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 11: So the deck is stacked against Richardson. But that's why

1926
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 11: I say, you've got to find out, and the only

1927
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 11: way to find out is playing, and then it works

1928
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 11: for it doesn't, and then and then you've got some

1929
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 11: finality to it as opposed to starting Jones. And he

1930
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 11: plays okay, and then he has you know, he is

1931
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 11: who he showed in the Giants too many times, and

1932
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 11: then you replace him for Richardson, and then is really

1933
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 11: muddied up. And then so I started to start Richardson

1934
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 11: and see what you got. But I'm not going to

1935
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 11: be shocked if they go with Jones, just because reading

1936
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 11: into what shats Sichin said the other day.

1937
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: Chap tell me a player on Saturday that, And I

1938
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:19,799
Speaker 1: don't mean like you know, oh, Michael Pittman, a player

1939
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 1: that needed to do so from a roster standpoint, that

1940
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: most helped himself.

1941
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 11: Boys, from a roster of steinpoint, I was gonna say,

1942
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 11: Anthony Gold, he showed you some pretty good plays as

1943
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 11: a receiver. The one play from Richardson was just I

1944
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 11: don't know whether the throw was better, if the catch

1945
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:44,639
Speaker 11: was better. Boy, I don't know that anybody. Jaylen Travis,

1946
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 11: the rookie tackle, He's gonna make this roster, But all

1947
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:52,839
Speaker 11: of a sudden, he's your swing tackle with Blake Freelan

1948
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 11: going down with what appears to be a season ending

1949
01:46:55,520 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 11: leg injury. Boy, chrys Lamon's a corner, I guess, and

1950
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 11: then I'm reaching had a decent game. Signing Xavian Howard

1951
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 11: tells me that they have real concerns about injuries at

1952
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 11: corner right, not so much Kiddymore, not so much Knnymore.

1953
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 11: I don't think that. But but Jaln Jones and Juju

1954
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 11: Brandt's thinking of signed Xavier Xavian Howard a month ago.

1955
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 4: Do you think and they didn't.

1956
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 1: Eddie and I have used this term on the show

1957
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 1: in the last month or so. If you think about

1958
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament, when you get situations like this where

1959
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 1: you got a guy that you go out and you

1960
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 1: sign because of attrition at a position, does that become

1961
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:38,719
Speaker 1: a bid stealer?

1962
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 2: You know?

1963
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,599
Speaker 1: Is that bad news for a Jelanie Woods that's that's

1964
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 1: hoping to make the roster. But now all of a sudden,

1965
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 1: you got a roster spot that's taken elsewhere if they

1966
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 1: and that's unless they put Brents or Jones and open

1967
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 1: them up on some sort of an ir right.

1968
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, because I think the injuries are going to factor

1969
01:47:56,080 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 11: into the into the fifty three. Uh there you can

1970
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 11: trust trust me, you can find you can find roster spots,

1971
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 11: you can uh. But they but they could go into

1972
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 11: the season with two or three guys who may miss

1973
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 11: a game or two. Uh who was it last year

1974
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 11: Josh Dams missed the first game or two. But you

1975
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 11: carry him because it's not going to be a long

1976
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 11: term thing. So I don't know that it would just

1977
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 11: would impact the Jeelani Woods because I think you carry

1978
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 11: four tight ends and and you make your decision on

1979
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 11: that third or fourth guy. It would more impact maybe

1980
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 11: an extra linebacker or again a corner. Uh So, but

1981
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 11: no injuries. Injuries will impact how they build this roster

1982
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 11: because there's gonna be two or three guys probably who

1983
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 11: won't be ready for the season, but won't be long term.

1984
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 4: You could carry.

1985
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 11: And I say you can carry again, Let's say they

1986
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 11: think that Daylon Jones is gonna miss four games, so

1987
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 11: you can put him on IR but you gotta wait

1988
01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 11: until the season. You gotta wait until he's on the

1989
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 11: fifty three to do that. So again, when it comes

1990
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 11: to cutting to fifty three, you're gonna have a tough decision.

1991
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 11: I don't think with a with the Jeelanie Woods and

1992
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 11: again Tyler Goodson went that with that elbow. I thought

1993
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 11: he was going to be one of the top three

1994
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:18,720
Speaker 11: running backs and maybe he's still. We'll be Maybe that

1995
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 11: wasn't a serious injury. But these injuries pile up, and

1996
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 11: when they're not season ending or whatever, it impacts what

1997
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 11: you do in other positions.

1998
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: Ulysses Bentley the fourth is their insurance policy, their shape.

1999
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:35,759
Speaker 1: You know this, right, you loses, you loses. Is ready

2000
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: for the phone call? Uh, if they can get him

2001
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 1: off the polo fields, Ulysses Bentley the fourth has played well, Right,

2002
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: that's my guy. I'm the president. Probably what's that?

2003
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 11: Probably probably a practice squad guy. Uh, you know, Khalil

2004
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 11: Herbert they brought into the veteran guy has been hurt

2005
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 11: so and DJ Giddens is pretty good. We'll see sometimes

2006
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 11: you see things in camp and in preseason games. Really

2007
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 11: and we have how many guys have we seen what

2008
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 11: was in the receiver Darron Carter, I tell you, and

2009
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 11: who got who was they had? In the name of cases,

2010
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 11: they had that defensive end who led the preseason in

2011
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 11: sacks and they traded him to Dallas. And when I

2012
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 11: hang remember that, and I remember that as soon as

2013
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 11: I hang up, Caesar Rayford was that it? Maybe?

2014
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 1: I think that's right.

2015
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,679
Speaker 11: Yeah, too many names. I try not to learn names

2016
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 11: in preseason because they once they're in your head generally

2017
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 11: they don't go away. And then I've got forty years

2018
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 11: of names in my head that don't matter. But but

2019
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 11: it's it's there's always people that pop up and go

2020
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 11: back and see how many times the leading rusher and

2021
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:52,080
Speaker 11: the leading receiver in preseason don't even make the roster

2022
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 11: because of the way. You know, Jonathan Tato's had one

2023
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 11: carry for nine yards. I don't think he plays at Cincinnati.

2024
01:50:59,360 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

2025
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:02,640
Speaker 11: I always treat him like Edrin James. I want to

2026
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 11: see him get hit once, and he really didn't get

2027
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 11: hit on the play. Get hit once, So your first

2028
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 11: really significant hits not against the Dolphins in September. But

2029
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 11: I will be surprised that very many frontline players play

2030
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 11: at Cincinnati. I think the fear of the concern of

2031
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 11: injuries is just too drastic to put people out there

2032
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 11: until it matters.

2033
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 1: Caesar Rayford, by the way, sign is a free agent

2034
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:35,560
Speaker 1: with the Colts in twenty thirteen. Four months later, he

2035
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 1: was traded to the Cowboys after a notable preseason and

2036
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:44,800
Speaker 1: then was released by the Cowboys eleven months later after

2037
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 1: being on their practice squad and then played for Now.

2038
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:51,600
Speaker 1: How about this for a rundown of teams Calgary Stampeders,

2039
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 1: Montreal Alouett's, Jacksonville Sharks, Minnesota Vikings, Los Angeles Kiss, Saskatchewan Roughriders,

2040
01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 1: and the Tampa Bay Storm.

2041
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 11: Don't if you're if your Caesar, don't you have jerseys

2042
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 11: from you.

2043
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 1: Esrangeless Kiss of the arenal Gene Simmons.

2044
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 11: Hell, yes you do, God, but that you know. But

2045
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 11: that's why I say pre sage. Just you know, I mean,

2046
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,919
Speaker 11: I remember the guy who was the left handed quarterback

2047
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 11: from Kentucky.

2048
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 1: Uh uh, Jared Lorenzo, the big the big guy.

2049
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the late.

2050
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 11: Unfortunately, Yeah, I know, I know so, but it's that's

2051
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:32,720
Speaker 11: what's cool about the preseason is it is so many

2052
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:37,640
Speaker 11: guys get a chance to really have their moment and

2053
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 11: some of them will never have another moment, and some

2054
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 11: and some Gary Brackett for crying out loud, undrafted and

2055
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 11: and and all that. And he made the most of

2056
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 11: Jack Doyle guys undrafted, uh and when they get their moment,

2057
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 11: they seized it. A lot many more guys don't. But

2058
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 11: I think there's so many great stories in in Trey

2059
01:52:59,479 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 11: training camp.

2060
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 1: Ironically, the guy that didn't Ironically, the guy that didn't

2061
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: seize its name is Caesar. He got a ton of jerseys.

2062
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 11: Thank you, Eddie.

2063
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 1: Chap appreciate it. Man, When do you think we'll have

2064
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 1: an answer at this quarterback thing tomorrow?

2065
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 11: It just needs to be tomorrow. It just for Shane

2066
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 11: just to sit up there, to stand up there tomorrow

2067
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 11: and and say we're still deciding. I don't know. I

2068
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:28,600
Speaker 11: just think again, I think he knew Saturday night what

2069
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 11: he was going to do or what he's going to do.

2070
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 11: I think it just it just serves everybody's purpose to just, Hey,

2071
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 11: if the Browns can name Joe Flacco starting quarterback, these

2072
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 11: guys can name their guy. Let's take that approach.

2073
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 1: All right, Chap appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon.

2074
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 1: You guys be well, all right, Mike Chapel, CBS four

2075
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: and WX on Fox w x I N Fox fifty nine.

2076
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 1: It is preseason, but the Fantasy League draft is a

2077
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 1: week from the night. Eddie for the Quarry Company Fantasy

2078
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 1: League Draft Iago's Pizza in Greenwood. We still have how

2079
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 1: many spots to fill up? Six nine seventy is the

2080
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 1: telephone number? Are we doing show trivia? We can do that, yeah,

2081
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 1: show trivia. So you've got a show. You have to

2082
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 1: prove that you've listened to this program before. But if

2083
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 1: you would like to be in our fantasy league, we

2084
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 1: will have prizes for the fantasy league winner. We will

2085
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 1: have pizza at Chicago's Pizza a week from tonight. So

2086
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to come down at seven

2087
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 1: o'clock for the draft, and you've got to be a

2088
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 1: listener of this program. And that right there rules out

2089
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 1: probably ninety eight percent of most people in the general population.

2090
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,919
Speaker 1: So you've got a good chance of you know, competing.

2091
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: Two through nine, ten seventy. We'll do it next. So

2092
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 1: we will do a live fantasy football draft one week

2093
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 1: from tonight at seven pm at the Chicago's Pizza in Greenwood.

2094
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:53,360
Speaker 1: Try to keep out the paparazzi and we have how

2095
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 1: many spots remaining? We have six spots to fill? Is

2096
01:54:56,560 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 1: that correct? That is accurate? Okay, Now you have to

2097
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 1: at least prove that you have listened somewhat to this

2098
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 1: radio show. And that's the challenge. Now, Eddie, we have

2099
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 1: callers lined up. Who would you like to begin with?

2100
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 1: Do we want to reward people who got in first?

2101
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 1: You mean in terms of the callers, Yeah, they were

2102
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 1: quickest to call in, But I think I think that

2103
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 1: actually the phone routing system has as much to do

2104
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 1: with that as anything. I think that's I think they

2105
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 1: all were getting in in the same time. I'll let

2106
01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 1: you pick, though you talk to everybody. You tell me

2107
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 1: which one we're starting with.

2108
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 3: Well, I know Dennis who's online one. He is a

2109
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 3: P one listener, Jake. So if we want Dennis in

2110
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 3: the league again he was in it last year, we

2111
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 3: need to up the trivia challenge for him.

2112
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 1: This is Dennis the Menace, right, Yes, Dennis has already

2113
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 1: won one of our challenges. He was a Dennis. You actually,

2114
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, I made a home delivery to you.

2115
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: Is that correct that you did, sir? And you were

2116
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 1: one of the winners in our NCAA tournament challenge. I

2117
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 1: want to say that you got it was it Arkansas hat?

2118
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 2: You are correct probably wear my razorback hat.

2119
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 1: So do you actually wear your razorbacks hat?

2120
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 11: I've wanted a few top golfings to be honest with you.

2121
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 3: Okay, you want a job site right now?

2122
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 4: I am. I am a don't cruck driver.

2123
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 10: I'm backing up to dump my load of sand it

2124
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:23,600
Speaker 10: Shelby materials.

2125
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,680
Speaker 1: Just so you know, Dennis, for just the sake of

2126
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 1: everybody's comfort level, if you could avoid saying you're getting

2127
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 1: ready to dump your load on the program, we would

2128
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:38,840
Speaker 1: all be gratefully appreciative. All right, Dennis, that alone gets

2129
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: you in. You clearly know the show. If you know

2130
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 1: how much I love the horn. All right, we'll get

2131
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 1: Dennis will be one of them. So we only have two?

2132
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 1: How many spot we have six?

2133
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 3: We have five?

2134
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 1: Let's go to Todd. Todd, welcome to the show.

2135
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 11: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen.

2136
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 1: By gentlemen, are you referring to both Eddie and myself?

2137
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 10: EDDI?

2138
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, both of you guys.

2139
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Todd, have you called the program before?

2140
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 11: Yes?

2141
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 2: I have.

2142
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 1: Do you have a position within the company that we've

2143
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 1: appointed you.

2144
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 10: I think I think I think mister Cook gave me

2145
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 10: a position at one point, but I think I had

2146
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 10: lost that position somewhere along the way, So okay, it

2147
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 10: might have been a hospitality position.

2148
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we're going to give you a trivia question

2149
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 1: to show although that alone shows that you kind of

2150
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: do know the show. But I'm going to give you

2151
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 1: a trivia question. You're ready, yes, sir, with a margin

2152
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 1: of eir of four, so four on either side. Can

2153
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 1: you tell me the number of female listeners of this program?

2154
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 4: Ah? Boy?

2155
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 2: Eleven?

2156
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:53,280
Speaker 1: Oh, Todd Man, you're killing me. You're selling me short there.

2157
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 1: How about this? Who is my favorite player currently on

2158
01:57:56,760 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis colts.

2159
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 2: Your face her player on Nicoles yep.

2160
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 4: Us to Bentley the Fourth?

2161
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:11,919
Speaker 1: Yes, yes and by the way, Todd, so get his information.

2162
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 1: Eddie Todd's in.

2163
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 4: Uh.

2164
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 1: We have breaking news in terms of a show announcement. Thursday.

2165
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 1: On the program, we will be joined by none other

2166
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 1: than future Indianapolis Cult running back Extraordinary Ulysses Bentley the Fourth,

2167
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 1: who will join the program. Ulysses Bentley the Fourth joins

2168
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 1: the program. Who is next in this fun filled extravaganza, Eddie,

2169
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 1: let's go with Radford. Radford, Radford, what's up?

2170
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 4: Nothing much?

2171
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 12: Listening to the best radio Brockcast America.

2172
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 1: Now, Radford, you have a you have a great radio voice, Radford.

2173
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 1: Have you been told that before?

2174
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 2: Yes? I have several times.

2175
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 1: Can you do me a favor? Yep, because you have

2176
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:02,160
Speaker 1: a fabulous radio voice, and I'm gonna basically milk the

2177
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 1: cow for free. Here can we get you to say?

2178
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 1: This is Radford and I'm enjoying Quarrying Company on ninety

2179
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 1: three five one oh seven five the fan? Can we

2180
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 1: get you to do that real quick?

2181
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2182
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go.

2183
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 12: Okay, this is Radford and I'm listening to Quarrying Company

2184
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 12: on ten seventy the fan.

2185
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 1: Now, now, Radford, now hold on, it's not ten seventy.

2186
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: I can appreciate that. I know you're an older fellow.

2187
01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 4: Radford.

2188
01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 1: I can tell you're going back old school on me.

2189
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:30,720
Speaker 2: Here.

2190
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna do this one more time. This is

2191
01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:34,960
Speaker 1: Radford and I'm in the company of Quarrying Company on

2192
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:36,960
Speaker 1: ninety three five one oh seven five the fan.

2193
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 12: All right, as you are, that's pretty long, man, I'm

2194
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,600
Speaker 12: too jacked up here yeah, all.

2195
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 1: Right, here's a better question. True or false At some

2196
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 1: point in your life, you have owned a T shirt, sweatshirt,

2197
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 1: or hat from Radford University? True or false?

2198
01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 2: That's false.

2199
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 12: But my brother does because he's about fifty and I'm

2200
01:59:57,200 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 12: thirty five.

2201
01:59:57,680 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 2: But I haven't bought one.

2202
01:59:58,760 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 12: My brother wears it all the time.

2203
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:03,240
Speaker 1: All right, And Radford is in what what state? Do

2204
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 1: you know where it's located?

2205
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 2: Virginia?

2206
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 1: That's impressive that you know that. Okay, Radford, I need

2207
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:12,360
Speaker 1: you to prove for me in some way, shape or

2208
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 1: form though that you're a regular listener of this program.

2209
02:00:16,120 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 12: Okay, I can just start complimenting you a whole bunch

2210
02:00:19,120 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 12: back back, and I'll start.

2211
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 2: Getting right in there.

2212
02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:21,440
Speaker 4: Give me.

2213
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 1: Give me one thing about this show that has been

2214
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:27,840
Speaker 1: said or that you like that that we would go. Okay, yeah,

2215
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 1: you're old school, you're.

2216
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:37,840
Speaker 12: In Let me think of seven great Okay, golly, I'm

2217
02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:39,640
Speaker 12: trying to think of mm.

2218
02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 2: All I can think.

2219
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:44,600
Speaker 12: Okay, now I'm stressing out.

2220
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:48,200
Speaker 1: Okay, how about this? What's the name of my cat?

2221
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:55,960
Speaker 1: Who's who's my favorite college football team?

2222
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 12: Now I feel like an idiot to know this.

2223
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 1: Okay, how about this? Which local which local sports team.

2224
02:01:04,680 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 1: Do I attend the most games of.

2225
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 2: I know something better than this man, Like hold on

2226
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 2: let me.

2227
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna put Radford. We're gonna put you on hold

2228
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 1: real quick and let you We'll come back to you.

2229
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 1: We'll come back to you. We'll let Radford like get

2230
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:29,320
Speaker 1: his bearings real quick, and then we'll get to Troy. Troy,

2231
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 1: can you answer any of those questions that I just asked? Radford?

2232
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 3: Please only answer one.

2233
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:37,520
Speaker 11: I think I heard a couple of them.

2234
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess, uh.

2235
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:45,320
Speaker 4: You you go to the Fever games the most, Troy Man.

2236
02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:51,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Casey. Casey help us out, man,

2237
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 1: Can you answer any of those questions? This is a

2238
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:56,600
Speaker 1: terrible indictment on this radio program. Our boss might be

2239
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 1: listening and is like, we got to get rid of

2240
02:01:58,000 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 1: this guy. No, he listens to him.

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02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:03,680
Speaker 9: Yes, Clemson, Clemson's your favorite college football Yes.

2242
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 1: All right, Casey, Casey, you're in Casey at the bat.

2243
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 1: Let's go back to Radford one more time. All right, Radford,

2244
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:15,120
Speaker 1: did you think of anything that will indeed prove that

2245
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:17,120
Speaker 1: you listen to this radio show before today?

2246
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:20,720
Speaker 12: I think I do because it was around like Halloween

2247
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:22,200
Speaker 12: is your case the cat's boob.

2248
02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Radford. All right, Radford, you're in. Thank you

2249
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:31,480
Speaker 1: mercifully you're in. So that puts us to how many, Eddie,

2250
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 1: we have now you need two more? All right, we'll

2251
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 1: do two more at a later time. I appreciate everybody

2252
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:40,520
Speaker 1: calling in for it. We'll come back, put a tie

2253
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:42,800
Speaker 1: on everything from today and hand it off to John next.

2254
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:47,600
Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't mention the harrowing experience that

2255
02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:52,720
Speaker 1: I had last night, Eddie. Did you say heroin harrowing?

2256
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 1: Well that too, but okay, not literally, I'm saying like

2257
02:02:55,720 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 1: that would be equally harrowing. This is I mean, I'm

2258
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:04,400
Speaker 1: not This is not happy, not a happy thing. Hopefully

2259
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:10,720
Speaker 1: it ends up with a good resolution. But last night late, I.

2260
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:16,200
Speaker 3: Like we talking eleven thirty ish, so early into your night.

2261
02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 1: Correct. I think I've mentioned before there is a cat

2262
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:27,400
Speaker 1: that near a local business near where I live that

2263
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 1: I discovered. He was a feral cat at the time

2264
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 1: when he was a little kitten when I first noticed him,

2265
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:38,720
Speaker 1: and myself and two of the employees of this said

2266
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:44,960
Speaker 1: establishment began feeding this cat to the point where he's

2267
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:47,560
Speaker 1: basically now a community cat because he'll let us pet him.

2268
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's a cool little fella. And fortunately

2269
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 1: one of those two employees is actually on Wednesday taking

2270
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 1: him and moving him indoors. So he's yeah, so he's

2271
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 1: which is I'll be honest, I mean, I'm happy that

2272
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 1: he's going to be getting a home.

2273
02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:04,080
Speaker 3: Are you going to miss him?

2274
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:07,920
Speaker 1: Yes, for sure. But last night it was my turn

2275
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 1: in the rotation to go feed him and you know,

2276
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: pet him and whatnot. And I was in a parking

2277
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:20,440
Speaker 1: lot on North Keystone and a car pulled into the

2278
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 1: parking lot and I, you know, there's a lot of

2279
02:04:22,400 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 1: traffic that goes in and out, even though this was

2280
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:27,960
Speaker 1: after hours of the business, and the car kind of

2281
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 1: came in the parking lot for a minute and then

2282
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:31,200
Speaker 1: drove off. I didn't think much of it, but then

2283
02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:33,040
Speaker 1: about a couple of minutes later, I looked over and

2284
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:36,480
Speaker 1: I saw a dog in the parking lot. And this

2285
02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:39,240
Speaker 1: is I hate saying this, but I my thought was,

2286
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:43,680
Speaker 1: did that dog just get dumped? Did somebody just dump

2287
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 1: a dog? So I went to approach the dog, which

2288
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:50,480
Speaker 1: was wearing a collar. I could tell that it was

2289
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 1: a smaller either pit bull or pit breed of some sort,

2290
02:04:55,480 --> 02:04:57,840
Speaker 1: and had that like hip dysplasia, where like he kind

2291
02:04:57,880 --> 02:05:00,840
Speaker 1: of ran a little bit awkward, and I hope that

2292
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 1: that's not the result of some sort of an abuse.

2293
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, But as I got close, you know,

2294
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:09,960
Speaker 1: it growled and then began to run away, and so

2295
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:14,960
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, went back, helped out, you know, petted

2296
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 1: the cat, made sure he knew where, you know, got

2297
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:18,880
Speaker 1: his food. He started eating whatever, and so I was

2298
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:21,880
Speaker 1: leaving and as I was leaving, the dog was still

2299
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:25,040
Speaker 1: standing in the parking lot. So I one more time

2300
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:27,000
Speaker 1: approached just to try to get his attention, and he

2301
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:32,960
Speaker 1: took off running from me and then began running literally

2302
02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:36,440
Speaker 1: in the middle of the road southbound down Keystone. Oh no,

2303
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:40,880
Speaker 1: the wrong way. He was in the northbound lane, running

2304
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 1: in the middle of the road, so there was no traffic.

2305
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:47,520
Speaker 1: So I was driving the wrong way on Keystone, mind you,

2306
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:50,400
Speaker 1: trying to get him to get into my car because

2307
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:52,960
Speaker 1: he was. It was terrifying because I'm like, somebody is

2308
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: going to come and this is going to happen right

2309
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:57,840
Speaker 1: in front of me. I managed to get him. He

2310
02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:01,160
Speaker 1: eventually he just got petered out from running so hard,

2311
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:06,040
Speaker 1: ran into the to a local business off of the road,

2312
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 1: thank goodness. And I'm like, okay, we've gotten him off

2313
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,800
Speaker 1: of Keystone now, but now what do I do? Because

2314
02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:14,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't there's nowhere to call to take him that

2315
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 1: late at night, and so I thought, well, my biggest

2316
02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:21,760
Speaker 1: concern here is I want him off of Keystone. So

2317
02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:25,080
Speaker 1: I called another buddy of mine that I knows a

2318
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:27,040
Speaker 1: night out night out, and I said, look, I've got

2319
02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 1: him right here where he's not going to run away.

2320
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:31,920
Speaker 3: The heck I didn't get a call, and so well

2321
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 3: this this guy's also lives close, okay, and I said,

2322
02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:39,160
Speaker 3: can you stop at a gas station and buy a

2323
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:42,960
Speaker 3: thing of dog food and come here. So he shows

2324
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 3: up and goes, oh, no, I just brought up a

2325
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:47,120
Speaker 3: Burger patty. I'm like, no, dude, we need to leave like.

2326
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:49,320
Speaker 1: A thing of dog food overnight so that he does

2327
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 1: not leave this area until this business shows up in

2328
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 1: the morning and we can let them know, hey, there's

2329
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 1: a dog here and you know, try to help him out.

2330
02:06:55,360 --> 02:07:00,560
Speaker 1: So we ended up getting some like dog chow or whatever,

2331
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:02,760
Speaker 1: put it in a bowl. This dog went through like

2332
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 1: three bowls of it in about two minutes. We left

2333
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:09,640
Speaker 1: the remainder of the food. I called the businesses after hours.

2334
02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:11,360
Speaker 1: They did answer, and I said, listen, when you get

2335
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:15,000
Speaker 1: here at six in the morning, hopefully there's going to

2336
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,040
Speaker 1: be a dog sitting on your porch, and you know,

2337
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 1: hopefully you can call unfortunately and listen. I appreciate and

2338
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:25,960
Speaker 1: love the work that people do for dogs in terms

2339
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 1: of animal shelters, but you know, I have a feeling

2340
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:32,000
Speaker 1: what the sad fate may be for him if he

2341
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:34,600
Speaker 1: goes to one of the bigger shelters. But I put

2342
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:36,480
Speaker 1: him up on Indie Lost Pet and that kind of

2343
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:39,960
Speaker 1: thing I have not I didn't today. I've not followed

2344
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:41,920
Speaker 1: up to find out what they were if in fact

2345
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 1: he was there in the morning. But hopefully he made

2346
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:47,080
Speaker 1: it through the night, because it was when he was

2347
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:51,320
Speaker 1: running down Keystone Man. It was awful, And I don't

2348
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,520
Speaker 1: know for certain because he had the collar on. I

2349
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:55,600
Speaker 1: don't think that means anything in terms of a dumped animal.

2350
02:07:55,640 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 1: But if you are somebody who just I understand that people,

2351
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:03,560
Speaker 1: whether it be for finances, whether it be out of fear,

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Speaker 1: whether it be any number of things that you determine

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Speaker 1: that you cannot keep a dog. But if you are

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Speaker 1: dumping him in a parking lot in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the night. You are literally the lowest form of human

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Speaker 1: being on earth. I mean, there are those in the

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Speaker 1: same category, but they would not be lower than that.

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Speaker 1: In terms of the show on Thursday, Eddie U listen

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Speaker 1: is Bentley the fourth I'm kind of pumped up about this.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little starstruck.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome. You're welcome.

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Speaker 10: Jake.

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Speaker 1: Do we know what time he's going to be joining

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 3: It'll be after practice on Thursday, so time is to

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Speaker 3: be determined.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he'll be offended by my voice? I'm

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Speaker 1: a little worried about that. Are you going to do

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Speaker 1: the voice for him? I may ask him if he

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Speaker 1: likes it? Yeah, I mean it would be unfairified it not.

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Speaker 1: Jamb has arrived. Big show lined up, John Big, Big,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Holder, and Zach Keifer.

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Speaker 11: I will say this about Zach Kiefer.

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Speaker 13: I'd rather just kind of talk football because I am

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Speaker 13: one thousand percent worn out on anything. Andrew Luck nothing

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Speaker 13: is that great writer, but he's gott an Andrew Luck story.

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Speaker 1: And am I the only one? I can't be the

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Speaker 1: old one?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything else? I don't I just a lot

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Speaker 1: of the reaction from people were people that clearly are

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Speaker 1: still upset with Andrew Luck. I'm not upset.

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Speaker 13: I just don't want to hear it like I'm and

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Speaker 13: I'll end up talking about it, I'm sure, because there's

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Speaker 13: nothing against Zach whatsoever. I mean, you go out there,

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Speaker 13: you get that. I think we all would write. I mean, hell,

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Speaker 13: if he would say, hey, I want to come on

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Speaker 13: your show, Jake, right on your show, I would too.

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Speaker 13: But I don't want to hear it. I just I'm

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Speaker 13: tired of it. And but we've got this big quarterback

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Speaker 13: thing going on around here.

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Speaker 1: Luck did say that he went Originally he wanted to

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Speaker 1: play until he was forty five?

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Speaker 11: Did he?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Sure he did.

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Speaker 13: I mean, now, was that like a fleeting moment? You

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Speaker 13: think when he was vacuumting the carpet and listening to

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Speaker 13: Florence on the machine?

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Speaker 1: Who do you think he listens to Andrew Luck? What's

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Speaker 1: his lawrence? In the machine all night? He's on Saturday night?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 10: Awesome?

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Speaker 11: Buddy?

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Speaker 1: Correct any timple of the dog, did you plenty? Oasis?

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Speaker 1: I did not?

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Speaker 11: You better go because he's trying to wrap you up.

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Speaker 1: I want to get in trouble. Don't get me in trouble, Zach,

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Speaker 1: keep for it four and we will be with you

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Speaker 1: at noon tomorrow. Thanks for listening to Quiry Company.