1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: For the Butler Bulldogs to beat South Carolina on Friday 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: in Virginia on Sunday to talk more about it. He 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: is the head coach of the Butler Bulldogs. He is 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: fad Moda coach. The Greenbrier served you well, did it not? 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 2: That was a good trip. I thought that, you know, 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: we played some good basketball down there. Guys really competed 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: and and you know, I like the week before coming 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: out of the SUW game, sold things that we we 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: did well, sold a lot of things we had to 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: get better at, and and uh, but I like, I 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: like the direction that we're hitting in. 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: I was watching a little bit behind the scenes video 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: of you talking to your team after the UVA win, 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: and you had shared with them a text message you 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: had sent the night before the game. For our audience 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: that might have missed it. Could you share what you 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: wanted your team to know the night before that UVA game? 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: No, it was it was just more of the It 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: was pretty simple of we had to be the team 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: that was that played harder, that played more together, and 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: we had to be the tougher team in the game. 22 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: And I thought we did those things. Dad. 23 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: When you look at again, we've talked about him. I 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: feel like on a weekly basis here Finley biz Jack, 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: when teams you know are going to scout him, they're 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: going to try to take things away from him. How 27 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: have you seen him grow to respond when there's no 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: hiding as one of your top guys? 29 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: Right? You know what great question I think with Findley 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: because of his you know, he's got he's got a 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: very high basketball IQ and we've got to move him 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: around and get creative and in ways to create space 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: for him. And you know, Broy, the thing that that 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: family does that goes as unnoticed as anything is he's 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: an unbelievable screener and when he set screens, it buys 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: him time to to be more open, and you know, 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: it's staying in the obvious. He's he's really really fast 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: when he has the ball and can get to the 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: get to the rim, or get to a spot to 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: get a three off and and uh so I think that, 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: you know, the biggest thing with him is is just 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: creative and using him different ways throughout the course of 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: the game to free him up that model. 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: The Butler head coach on the Paylist Slickers Hotline. I 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: got one more on Finley Bizjack. In this day and 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: age of college basketball coach, obviously a huge part of 47 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: it is players staying with your program and not portaling 48 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: it up on an annual basis, but also there is 49 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: an element of you wanting those players to also stay 50 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: and with Finley and a team that had a lot 51 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: of turnover, particularly from the front line guys, I get 52 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: some of those eligibility, but you know what, I guess, 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: was it about wanting him to return as well? Because 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: you know, again from a new faces standpoint, there's a 55 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: lot of them for you. 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's it's funny because you know, now 57 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: with the high turnover, you don't always get to build 58 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: a great bond with the player. And I think that's 59 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: something Finley and I have developed over his time here 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: is you know, just sort of a trust. I think 61 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: he trusts me. I trust him, and you know, the 62 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: way you finily finished the season last year is exactly 63 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: how he's playing right now. And you know, he understands 64 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: our system and he understands the coaching that we're doing 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: and what we're trying to do, and that does make 66 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: a difference, you know, depending And we're telling the other 67 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: day and he said, you know the game is the 68 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: time that I've been here, it's really slowed down. And 69 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: that's what happens to players, is they mature, they start 70 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: seeing things at a slower pace as they're developing. And 71 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: that's whatever really and seeing in family when he's out 72 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: there on the court, he's doing a great job. 73 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: To pivot a bit to the rest of your roster 74 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: and it can we have that made Butler men's basketball 75 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: coach joining us here on the Palos Liquers hotline that 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: I know as a coach, you're always gonna stress rebounding. 77 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: You're able to out rebound Virginia forty through to thirty nine. 78 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: And you have a couple of guys stand out on 79 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: that front. Drayton Jones season best non rebounds and then 80 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: you have Jamie Kaiser, the Maryland transfer, matching his career 81 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: how ten rebounds. So from a great standpoint, what did 82 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: you like about that side of it? Because you know 83 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: how it goes in his game Sometimes I'm gonna make 84 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: shots and so you got to get more shots in. 85 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: You get that by getting the rebound, no extra possessions. 86 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: It's huge. And I'll say this, and I thought Jamie 87 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: Kaiser was our MVP down there this weekend. His play 88 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: was as good. He had a play against Virginia where 89 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: he dove on the floor in the backcourt and literally 90 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: flipped the ball up and he slid out of the 91 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: screen and family went down shot at three and here 92 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: comes Jamie flying in. He tips it in it. It's 93 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: one of the top three players I've ever as a 94 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: coach seen one of my players do. And you know what, 95 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: he got three shots off in the game and had 96 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: ten rebounds, and you know he at one point during 97 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: the game he said, hey, let me guard number two, 98 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: the little guard that was hurting us, and did a 99 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: great job on him. And you know a lot of 100 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: things that that Jamie did down there went unnoticed to 101 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: probably the common fan, but myself and our staff and 102 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: our team, uh, we know what he did down there, 103 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: and it was great to see. And and Drayton, you know, 104 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: getting nine rebounds. You know, we've said this all along, 105 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: we've got to have that from that spot between he 106 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: and and Johan h they they've got to do a 107 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: great job rebound the ball for us. 108 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: Get that model with us here. Butler back inside a 109 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: hankle coming up Friday afternoon. They've got right state after 110 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: their impressive weekend in the Greenbrier. Coach, I don't think 111 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: we've ever asked you this. You you know, you played 112 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: at Butler, but you transferred there after a couple of 113 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: years of Southern Illinois. What what led to you transferring 114 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: to UH to Butler? 115 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: You know, I was only the Southern only for one year, 116 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: and I wasn't good enough to play there and I 117 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: knew that, and uh, you know, I wasn't delusional or 118 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: anything like that. And then Butler offered me the you know, 119 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: a huge nil package called it called room board and 120 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: three squares. But h no, I think you know, I 121 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: just I knew back then SOUTHERNIS was in the Missouri 122 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: Valley and it was a was a you know, a 123 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: bigger program than Bubbler was at the time. And I've 124 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: said this before. It was life changing for me to 125 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: get here in smaller school and you know, the family 126 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: oriented nature of the Butler Is. It was the best 127 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: move I ever made my life. 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: Was that Did you overlap with Barry Callier? 129 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: Then? You know, Barry was my coach my senior year. 130 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: I played a rich Ardan one year and played two 131 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: years for coach Sex and and then Barry came in 132 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: my senior year. 133 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Got it, got it, and the rest is history. Of course, 134 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: the thad Moda and his coaching career have Butler now 135 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: back there and again the Bulldogs and I start to 136 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: this season A happy Thanksgiving. What's a must on the 137 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: on the plate of fad Mada coming up tomorrow afternoon? 138 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: You know I'm going to green Egg at turkey and uh, 139 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: I don't know you guys use the green Egg at all? 140 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: Well, it's too intimidating for me, but I you have 141 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: my full trust in it. What time the turkey going on? 142 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: Uh? You know, we practiced them all so it uh 143 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: you know a as most of them are just to 144 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: enjoy Thanksgiving day off, we'll be we'll be in full 145 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: grind so whenever we get home from practice and and 146 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: it'll probably be tomorrow afternoon. Sometimes thinks we go to eleven. 147 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Am green Egg and the turkey up there at the 148 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: moment sound So I would have a full trust in 149 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: coach Mana to get that. 150 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: Done, no doubt. No, I'm looking forward to it. 151 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: Coach, Happy Thanksgiving to you, Congrats on the nice work 152 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: at the Greenbrier, and we'll be watching Friday afternoon 153 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: All right, guys, Thanks a lot.