1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Live from Vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. I invited Tucker Carlson to be 3 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: on the show. The emails bounced back. Admittedly, it had 4 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: been a very long time since I had reached out 5 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: to him. We were never friends, you know, you know, 6 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: sharing recipes or anything like that. 7 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 3: I had emailed him. This is going on. 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: Maybe eight years ago, when he was doing stuff with 9 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: Fox taking congratulations on the move, congratulations on this, and 10 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: one or two things, and and that was it. He 11 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: would write back a little note, one line, two lines, 12 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: that's it. 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: But after he. 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: After he platformed Nick Foyintes, I said, okay, I want 15 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: to understand your worldview here, your America view, your worldview, 16 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: and yes, your Christianity view. I want to understand what 17 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: it is that you're saying, because you were wrong to 18 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: platform Nick Foytes, and you didn't push back on him. 19 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: You just where was the Now wait a second. It 20 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: was allowing a guy who has. 21 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: Called for killing Jews to be on your show and 22 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: your very large audience, as if somehow it was all normal. 23 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: But it's not all normal. 24 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: It wasn't all normal, and we should say that it 25 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 2: wasn't normal. 26 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to be with you guys. 27 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: Happy Halloween. Smoking the Artura Fente. This is the Hemingway 28 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: signature right here. Nicegar always always appreciate the smoke. Spoke 29 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: him if you got him. This interview with Fentes for 30 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people seems to be a final. 31 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 3: Straw that there. This is. 32 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: There are some people who might very well be saying 33 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: that Tucker Carlson should be canceled. I'm not one of 34 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: those people, but the idea that I'm not allowed to 35 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: note that what he did is. 36 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: Maddening seems ridiculous to me. 37 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: When Tucker Carlson decided to go to Russia to interview 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin, I had no issue with that whatsoever. It 39 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: seemed like the people who had issue with that were 40 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: pretty jealous that Tucker got the interview. 41 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: You would I get a chance to interview p Putin. 42 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna interview Putin. 43 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: When Tucker Carlson said, Hey, look at this Russian grocery store. 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: It's so much better than anything in the US, I said, 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: this is ridiculous. This is ridiculous. Body who would think 46 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: that a Russian supermarket is superior in any way to 47 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: an American supermarket, and our ability to buy food anytime, 48 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: we want the ability to have such incredible options. This 49 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: is madness. Madness. Oh, look at the subways, they're so clean. 50 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: The authoritarianism involved in engaging that cleanliness does not make 51 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: the cleanliness a value of the authoritarianism. 52 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: It doesn't. 53 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: And so I said, so, I didn't think verse second 54 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: he was going to get deplatformed. And I'm not calling 55 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: him on him to be deplatformed, but I will say 56 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: clearly that platforming Nick Twents is gross. Now to show 57 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: the ideological consistency, it was me on this show who 58 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: said of Donald Trump having lunch with Nick Twents, I 59 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: have no forgiveness for that move whatsoever. 60 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: None. 61 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: I can clearly state, Remember it was Nick Twentes and 62 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: and Kanye. I can clearly state that it is absolutely possible, 63 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: if not probable, that Donald Trump had no idea who 64 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Nick Fuentes was. He does stuff online, he knew who 65 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: Kanye was. You cannot tell me that the staffers who 66 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: put that lunch together didn't know who Nick Funtes was, 67 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: and they should have been fired. 68 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: You don't have lunch with Nick Flentes. You don't have 69 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: lunch with those Fara con you know, Yeah, yeah, you don't. 70 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: You just don't. That's it. 71 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: But yesterday Kevin Roberts, who is the leader of the 72 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: Heritage Foundation, put out a video. I don't know Kevin 73 00:04:54,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: Roberts personally, personally the president of Heritage. Know the Heritage Foundation. 74 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 2: I've been to their offices. I've broadcast from their radio station. 75 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: They have a setup right there on the I forget 76 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: what floor it is. I think they do rather good 77 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: work with something called the Daily Signal. I think what 78 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: what Rob Blue really created there Blue b l u 79 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: E y is is impressive and and you know it 80 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: was part of this this change in Heritage that that 81 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: I liked about. 82 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: It wasn't just white papers and wlunkiness. 83 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: It was about really connecting with people outside of that heritage. 84 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: Mindset. 85 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: You know, this this the you know, educating the elites. 86 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: If you will, I say that as a compliment to 87 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: what Heritage was, I can't. 88 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not associated with the group. 89 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: I can't tell you what Heritage is except to say 90 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: that Heritage is very much all Trump, all the time. 91 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: And since Trump is not a conservative, he's a populist 92 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: That could be seen as an issue, and I do 93 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: see it as one, because it's a question of whether 94 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: or not it is Conservatism that they are engaging. Not 95 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: saying anybody there as a bad person, because I don't 96 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: think that, but Kevin Roberts. 97 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: Seeing the Brew haha, I guess over Tucker. 98 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: Decided that what he was going to do was make 99 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: a video showing support for Tucker Carlson. Listen. 100 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 4: I'll have more to say on this in the coming days, 101 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 4: but today I want to be clear about one thing. 102 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: Christians can critique the state of Israel without being anti Semitic, 103 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 4: and of course anti Semitism should be condemned. My loyalty 104 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: as a Christian and as an American is to christ 105 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: first and to America always. When it serves the interests 106 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 4: to the United States to cooperate with Israel and other allies, 107 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: we should do so with partnerships on security, intelligence, and technology. 108 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: But when it doesn't, Conservatives should feel no obligation to 109 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: reflexively support any foreign government, no matter how loud the 110 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: pressure becomes from the globalist class or from their mouthpieces 111 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: in Washington. 112 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: That seems to. 113 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: Be I think this would be the right to terminology 114 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: an income gruent statement. Yes, you can criticize is Joe 115 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: that you can criticize. 116 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: Any other country. 117 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: I am the guy who said, when this war is 118 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: over and Amas is defeated, Netanyahoo has to go me. 119 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm the guy who said that there's nothing wrong with 120 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: that statement. People who say Israel shouldn't exist, they're wrong, 121 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: and I'm going to say so without question. Is Is 122 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: on the attack, and look at the genocide they're engaged 123 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: in in Gaza. All a lie was always a lie, 124 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: was a lie told by liars who are desperate to 125 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: see Israel destroyed. They're wrong, and they should lose. They 126 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: should lose. If they're Hamas, they should lose. If they're 127 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: running for public office, they should lose. In the court 128 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: of a public opinion, they should lose. Go ahead, criticize, 129 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: criticize lots of people. I support other people, but if 130 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: I noticed the criticism, I'm a globalist, Kevin Roberts. That's 131 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: not really an acceptable position. It's a position that's going 132 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: to get pushed back. Listen to your argument. Anybody can criticize, 133 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: and if you oppose the criticizing, you're a globalist and 134 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: you're working with mouthpieces in Washington, DC. They don't really 135 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: believe it. They're just mouthpieces. I'm sorry, give me another 136 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: way to view that. 137 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: That's how we started. 138 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: That was the first forty seconds of this video, and 139 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: I said, oh, this isn't good. 140 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: This is this is a serious problem. 141 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: Indeed, by the way, if you want the proof of 142 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: the claim that Nick Foynte has said killed Jews, the 143 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: videos are out there. 144 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: You'll forgive me if I'm not able to share it 145 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: with you right now. 146 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: It was I forget who shared it. It's absolutely positively there. 147 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: He said the words unquestionably. I will grab it. I 148 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: will bring it to you. People are questioning I don't 149 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: believe he's said that. He absolutely said it. And by 150 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: the way, I never said deep platform Nick Fuentes. People 151 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: could say disgusting things. Now you want to kill a 152 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: whole group people. That might be seen as a problem 153 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: that people could say discussing things in the United States 154 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: of America. 155 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: Going back to Kevin Roberts from Heritage. 156 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: The Heritage Foundation didn't become the intellectual backbone of the 157 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: conservative movement by canceling our own people or policing the 158 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: consciences of Christians. 159 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: And we won't start doing that now. 160 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 4: We don't take direction from comments on X though we 161 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: are grateful for the robust free speech debate. We also 162 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: don't take direction from members or donors, though we are 163 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 4: inherently grateful for their support and we're adding more every day. 164 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 4: This is the robust debate we invite with our colleagues, 165 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: our movement, friends, our members, and the American public. 166 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: Is a robust debate. 167 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: Having a noted anti semite on your platform and normalizing him. 168 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: I didn't say Tucker can't do it. I'm asking to 169 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: your point, mister Roberts, is that what debate is? 170 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: Because I don't think that's what debate is. 171 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 4: We will always defend Trush, we will always defend America, 172 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 4: and we will always defend our friends against the slander 173 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: of bad actors who serve someone else's agendas. That includes 174 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson, who remains and as I have said before, 175 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: always will be a close friend of the Heritage Foundation. 176 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: The venomous coalition attacking him or sewing division their attempt 177 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: to cancel him will fail. Most importantly, the American people 178 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: expect us to be focusing on our political adversaries on 179 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: the left, not attacking our friends on the right. 180 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: If you're platforming Nick Foentes, tell me what makes you 181 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: different than Rashida's leap? Why shouldn't I notice? And here 182 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: in lies the crux of the problem. You tell me 183 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: you believe in the robust debate, but now you're saying 184 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: that if I engage with my gosh, why. 185 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: Would you do that? 186 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: I'm a globalist, not focused on the right things. 187 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: Ah, that dog one hunt. I don't buy into that 188 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: in the slightest. 189 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: I don't buy into that, and I don't think other 190 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: people should buy into that as well. And so as 191 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: I listened to this video from Kevin Roberts, a heritage, 192 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: he wants to have his cake and eat it too. 193 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: He wants to maintain a relationship over here, and wants 194 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: to make a claim over here. And I believe that 195 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: the proper term is incongruit. These things are not connecting. Well, 196 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,359 Speaker 2: enter Ted Cruz to make this statement. 197 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: And now's the time for choosing. 198 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 5: Now's the time for courage. 199 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: If you sit there and nod. 200 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 5: Adoringly, well, someone tells you that Winston Churchill was the 201 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 5: villain of World War Two. If you sit there and 202 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 5: nod while someone says there's a very good argument America 203 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 5: should have intervened on behalf of Nazi Germany in World 204 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 5: War Two. If you sit there with someone who says 205 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 5: Adolf Hitler was very very cool, and then their mission 206 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 5: is to combat and defeat global jewelry, and you say nothing. 207 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: That you were a coward, and you are complicit in that. 208 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: He's clearly talking about Tucker that he is clearly talking 209 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: about Tucker Carlson. Right, there is Ted Cruz. Now somehow 210 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: part of this globalist's cabal. 211 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 212 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: I disagree with and even at poor things that Nick 213 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: Flint has says, but canceling him is not the answer either. 214 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: When we disagree with the person's thoughts and opinions, we 215 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 4: challenge those ideas and debate. And we have seen success 216 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: in this approach as we continue to dismantle the vile 217 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: ideas of the left. 218 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: And if we are to agree, sir, as we would 219 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: that we should engage in debate and disagree and not deplatform. 220 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: I can do that with Tucker Carlson as well. 221 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: But you have declared that being a globalist, working as 222 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: or with globalists and as or with mouth pieces and 223 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: not essential because it's taking time away from dealing with 224 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: the left. I now have a question about your opinion 225 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: and position here, which I do not believe to be strong. 226 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: I believe it is. Maybe the better word is misdirection. 227 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson is fair game like you are, mister Robertson, 228 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: like I am. People agree and disagree. But the story 229 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: here is Tucker Carlson platformed a clear bigot, clear anti Semite, clear. 230 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,359 Speaker 3: Clear ugly guy. 231 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: If you don't think we should ask why, I don't 232 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: quite understand what it is that you're advocating a heritage 233 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: that could be considered in any way conservative, and what 234 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: you are conserving. 235 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: I welcome you on the show anytime. This is Tony Cats. 236 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 6: Today race but also ag amping up after the in 237 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 6: that race face questions about controversial text messages. 238 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: What sort of test is. 239 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 6: Virginia for Republicans in particular next week? 240 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Virginia. 241 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 6: Virginia used to be a bellweather state for Republicans in 242 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 6: the past, and since Donald Trump's era it really has 243 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 6: become more of a purple state and more now leaning Democrat. 244 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: Because of the havoc that. 245 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 6: MAGA and Donald Trump have have just read done on Virginia. Yes, 246 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 6: two hundred and eighty five thousand civilian federal workers live 247 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 6: in Virginia. You have large military presence here, all being 248 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 6: impacted by the reckless decisions and the cuts by and 249 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 6: the pain being inflicted on American families. 250 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: Virginia is feeling that you. 251 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: Should tell Chuck Schumer to pass the Continuing Resolution tarrs 252 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: at Meyer, Tony Kats, Tony Kax today, good to be 253 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: with you. But I thought this was interesting. Of course, 254 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: this is this governor's race in Virginia. Abigail Spanburger, the 255 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: Democrat against the lieutenant governor, Republican Winsome Earl Sears. Now 256 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 2: Winsome Earl Series is black and Abigail Spamberger is whites, 257 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 2: and this has become part of the story. 258 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: But listen to this. 259 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 6: The boost of campaign funds to win some seeris pain 260 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 6: because of the AG controversy. Wins Series was losing by 261 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 6: double digits for most of this election. Abigail Spamberger is 262 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 6: an incredibly qualified, more experienced, and same candidate here and 263 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 6: more in line with mainstream Virginians. Winsome Series is a 264 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 6: MAGA extremist. 265 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: Now Maga extremist. 266 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: If you were winning this race, you don't even have 267 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: a conversation about her. But not only do you have 268 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: a conversation about Win. Some seers an incredible story. Maga extremist. 269 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 3: It's been a while since you've heard the term maga extremist. 270 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: That's concern and the attorney general controversy the Democrat Jones 271 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: said of the Democrat candidate said of the Republicans, I 272 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 2: want to kill the Speaker of the House in Virginia, 273 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: and I want to kill his kids. And Abigail Spamberger 274 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: didn't have the decency to say that's not right. Anybody 275 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: still voting for her, voting for Jones. I mean, they're 276 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 2: the ones you have to look at askew and look 277 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: at what Virginia is done with Glenn Youngkin as their 278 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: governor for four years. You would think they would want 279 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: that to continue. You would think that they would want 280 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: such a thing. Or I can all go down the 281 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: line Tara of why want Virginians vote for a black woman? 282 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: Why is it that the NAACP is supporting Abigail Spamberger, 283 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: a woman so white she was the body double to 284 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: the movie Powder, and not supporting the black woman who 285 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: would be the first black female governor Because it's not 286 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: about black and white. It's about progressives, and they don't 287 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: care about those who don't follow them ideologically. But using 288 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: the term mag extremist, well, that's real concern. Should we 289 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: be testing our nuclear capabilities? Major Mike Lyons retired joins 290 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: US next so I spoke with Major Mike Lyons, he 291 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: retired United States Army regarding what it is that has 292 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: transpired with President Trump and and the move to want 293 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: to test our nuclear facilities sadly not playing the way 294 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: I wanted it to. Tony Katz Tony Kats today, Good 295 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: to be with you. Find everything I do over at 296 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: Tony kats dot com. It is uh kind of nutty 297 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: the way this has been portrayed, the way this has been. 298 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: Shown to has been has been pushed. 299 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: This madness about like some danger that comes from the testing. 300 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case. I don't think that 301 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: is the case at all. It is not a danger. 302 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: What it is it could very well be a rational 303 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: position of here's something that we haven't done, here is 304 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: something that we need to do, and if we don't, 305 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 2: if we don't do it, if we aren't people willing 306 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: to test, what does that mean? 307 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: We have a nuclear arsenal. Are we going to. 308 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: Pretend that we shouldn't be using it? No way, take 309 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: that back. We absolutely don't want to use it. But 310 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: are we going to pretend that it's not there? It 311 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: just sits there? And maybe, just maybe this is a 312 00:21:53,600 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: larger scale conversation about readiness. My conversation with Major Mike Lions. Yeah, 313 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: oh wow, whatever whatever happened with my system went to 314 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: helen a handbasket, which is really too bad. I will 315 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: post it because I had video of it and everything else, 316 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: and I will I will share it. 317 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: I will have it on the YouTube feed. 318 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a genuine issue when we 319 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: take a look at how people react and respond to 320 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: something that could very well be just smart policy, a 321 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: smart idea, valuable. Why would we say that somehow it 322 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: is so wrong for us to be to realize we 323 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: we we've got. 324 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 4: It. 325 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: Seems we we've got an arsenal. We should test it well. 326 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 3: For Major Mike. 327 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: Lions, it goes along with an idea and he wrote 328 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: about this at Real Clear Defense and the article is 329 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: entitled the Trump Doctrine a Visible leverage. It's a very 330 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: interesting idea. The Trump doctrine a visible leverage, as Major 331 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 2: Mike Lions writes it, leverage therefore must be visible, transactional, 332 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: sustained the performance, quite literally, is the policy. And it's 333 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: a discussion of how President Trump sees how you interact 334 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: with the world. Different presidents have a different point of view. 335 00:23:53,480 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: It is not unheard of Monroe doctrine Barack Obama. 336 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: Not have a doctrine of basically apologizing for American strength. 337 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: In a position that is seen. 338 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: As absolute weakness, absolute weakness, that you would go around 339 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: the world apologizing for American strength that is not considered 340 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: humble in other societies, it is considered weak. And when 341 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: you when you took a look at that, when when 342 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: Barack Obama was engaged in that, it was ugly, It 343 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: was it was embarrassing, is probably the better way to 344 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: go about describing it. When President Trumps discusses that we 345 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: need to be attesting our nuclear arsenal, first of all, 346 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: this isn't a Bikinia told. This isn't let's drop the bombs. 347 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: And then there's the soldiers and the winds are rushing 348 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: and everyone's wearing the weird goggles. That's not it. You 349 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: engage this in a way that's underground. There's safety measures. 350 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: The President stated, the United States has more nuclear weapons 351 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: than any other country. This was accomplished, including a complete 352 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: update and renovation of existing weapons during my first term 353 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: in office because of the tremendous destructive power. I hated 354 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: to do it, but I had no choice. Russia's second, 355 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: China's a distant third, but will be even within five years. 356 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: Because of other countries testing programs, I've instructed the Department 357 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 2: of War to start testing our nuclear weapons on an 358 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 2: equal basis. That process will begin immediately. There is no 359 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 2: question that other nations, in rogue nations are looking to 360 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: have this nuclear option. This nuclear advantage, level playing fields 361 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: allow them to engage in more saber rattling. This is 362 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: why Iran could not be allowed a nuclear weapon. And 363 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: anybody who thinks that it's wrong to take out their 364 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: nuclear facilities, well, my gosh, you must have worked in 365 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: the Obama administration. It was the right thing to do. 366 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: I'm glad we did it. 367 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: We should continue doing so. And if you say to me, 368 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: who are we to decide for other nations? Iran sponsors terrorism. 369 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: Those terrorists can kill Americans if they have not already, 370 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: Like the things we saw, for example October seventh in 371 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: Israel and a host of other stories. We saw how 372 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: their support of the Houthi rebels in Yemen has gone down. 373 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: We should not, as a matter of course, for our 374 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: own safety and security, allow them to get a nuclear weapon. 375 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: It is foolhardy to say that somehow we should let 376 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: this happen when we can do something about it. It 377 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: is of real world understanding to say we have a 378 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: nuclear arsenal, and we need to remind the world that 379 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 2: we have a nuclear arsenal. I don't think they forgot 380 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: I should be clear about that. But rather, if you 381 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 2: listen to Major Mike lyons, it is that this idea 382 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: of leverage, this idea of visible leverage, is about showing 383 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: our capacity to overwhelm you, to get you to rethink 384 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: your position. The USS Gerald Ford moving into the Caribbean. 385 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: We already know that the United States has been taking 386 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: out drug boats from Venezuela. 387 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: I do not oppose these things. 388 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: Some in the Senate in the House have been saying, 389 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: are we engaged in an act of war here? Because 390 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 2: you've labeled Nicholas Maduro a narco terrorist. You have said 391 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: that we are in this level of war action. War 392 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: is something that's declared by Congress. You have to come 393 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: to us. I think they have a fine argument. But 394 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: if you want to show Venezuela that you're not messing 395 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: around the largest aircraft carrier in the fleet being on 396 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: your doorstep, or just hanging out in the water floating 397 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: around with our planes and our missiles, how is that 398 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: not to terrence and how is that not something. 399 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: That we absolutely believe in. 400 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: If we take a look at Ukraine, one of the 401 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: things that Major Mike Lyons discusses is that there isn't 402 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: actually a leverage there. 403 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: That you had him. 404 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: You had President Trump trying to get Zelensky to engage 405 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: giving up land. Then you had Vladimir Putin pushing away 406 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: President Trump, and Trump then saying well, Ukraine can get 407 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: it to land, backed in Danetski and Lahansk and Zapporsia 408 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: there in the dune boss, so of course they can. 409 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: We support it, and NATO's gonna get in there and 410 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: be supportive, and next thing you know, we're gonna be selling. 411 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: More weapons to NATO. 412 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: But it has not fully materialized, and so one of 413 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: the things that you're seeing is not too much movement 414 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: from the United States on the subject of Ukraine Russia 415 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: because he does not see that the leverage is. 416 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: There for him to apply. 417 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: Now, you can actually argue this as a conversation about 418 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: soft power. But what President Trump likes is a tangible show, 419 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: a tangible presentation. I for one, have never liked the 420 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: military parade stuff. 421 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: And everything else. And I get that Americans. 422 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: Don't like it because that's what they do in China 423 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: and that's what they do in Russian. Ooh, look how 424 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: tough they are. We don't need to do that stuff. 425 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: We'll just do what needs to be done. When the 426 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: moment comes, We're just ready. Trump's point of view is different. 427 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: He wants to show it. He wants to embrace it. 428 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: When Putin came to Anchorage and there were the F 429 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: eighteens and the F thirty. 430 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: Fives, and there was the flyover. 431 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: Of the bombers, the same bombers that took out Iranian 432 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: nuclear facilities at Fourdeaux and Isfahan and the tons, that's 433 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: the show. Now, I can appreciate someone not liking it, 434 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: but it's an interesting idea to think of it as doctrine. 435 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: And as for the testing of the nuclear arsenal as 436 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: opposed to these progressives who scream, oh my gosh, let's 437 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: ask a different question we have one when it is 438 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: the last time we tested it, shouldn't we be testing 439 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: from time to time? I mean every six months, I 440 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: have to test the batteries of my smoke detector. Is 441 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: it really so weird, so strange, so odd, so peculiar, 442 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: so out of bounds? 443 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: So how dare he. 444 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: That we'd want to make sure that our nuclear capabilities, 445 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: our systems are up to snuff. No, I don't think 446 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: it is. Actually makes me wonder why in the world 447 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: did we take so long? 448 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: When was the last time we were really doing this? 449 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: Exactly what could we find in this? 450 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: And it also lets him show the world, Hey, don't 451 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: forget well, this is not the country of Joe Biden. 452 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: We are very ready. You want to be our friend. 453 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: There's a real fear that some have in the country 454 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: about strength. Trump is not one of the people of 455 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: that fear, and that is one of the reasons he 456 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: got elected. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. Halloween, 457 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: bring it on, Bring it on, bring me Candy. I 458 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: am ready, Tony Katz, Tony kats today, Good to be 459 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: with you. I again warn people. You know, some people 460 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: like to dress like a creepy clown for Halloween. There's 461 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: a bad idea. They sit at the end of the 462 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: road and they've got I'm just as the clown. They've 463 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: got the knife. They try and scare people. No, no, no, 464 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: that's gonna it's gonna it's gonna end up badly. And 465 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: so I developed some public service announcements for anybody thinking 466 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: of dressing like a creepy clown for Halloween. 467 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 7: Now a public service announcement for anyone who's thinking of 468 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 7: dressing like a creepy clown this Halloween. 469 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 6: I know where you. 470 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: Live, and I've seen where you sleep. 471 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 6: I swear to everything holy that your mother's will cry 472 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 6: when I see what I've done to you. 473 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 7: This has been a public service announcement for anyone thinking 474 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 7: of dressing like a creepy clown this Halloween. 475 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: If that doesn't convince that, nothing well, nothing well, But 476 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: just in case it didn't, one. 477 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 7: More or one more, and now a public service announcement 478 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 7: for anyone who's thinking of dressing like a creepy clown 479 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 7: this Halloween. 480 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: You hear me talking here, billy boy, I ain't. 481 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 5: Do with you, my damned sight, I'm gonna get medieval 482 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 5: on your ass. 483 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 7: This has been a public service announcement for anyone thinking 484 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 7: of dressing like a creepy clown this Halloween. 485 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: All we can do is help those people who need 486 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: the help. It's all we can do. 487 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: For sure. More on the shutdown coming up on the show. 488 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: I listen. 489 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: I think Speaker Johnson has done an admirable job. But 490 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: how in the world do you go out there and 491 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: now discuss that Democrats are keeping a shut down? When 492 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 2: the President said engage a nuclear option? 493 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: Why do he do it? Why did he say it? 494 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: Why would you want the filibuster gone? Why would you 495 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: put yourself at odds with a Senate that has been 496 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: so supportive of you? I think a mistake from the president. 497 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 3: Why would you with all of the winning, why would 498 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 3: you just not win. 499 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 2: Forty chess? I have a hard time with that idea. 500 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: I've got that coming up. More is coming even after that. 501 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony kats dot com. Subscribe. It'd be 502 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 2: good for you. You'll get taller. I have no idea 503 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: if that's true. 504 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz Today.