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Speaker 1: Why from ball Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Greetings, this is Tony Katz today. I am not Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Coolidge, old radio friend of mister Katz,

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Speaker 1: not that old. We're approximately the same age, mister Katz

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Speaker 1: and I I'm honored to be joining you, outstanding Tony

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Speaker 1: Katz listeners throughout these United States of America, thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be back on the radio airwaves. For these next three hours.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into who I am and why you should

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Speaker 1: care or maybe not care as the show develops.

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Speaker 2: But I gotta say something.

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Speaker 1: Something's happened in this country over the last couple of days,

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Speaker 1: and really it's gained a lot of steam, I feel

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Speaker 1: like in the last twenty four hours, and this whole

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Speaker 1: show will not be about this again as the show develops.

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Speaker 1: We actually have a guest coming on later who will

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Speaker 1: dive into this topic on But this Arena Zurutska murder

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Speaker 1: in Charlotte is so awful. But I have a feeling

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Speaker 1: like so many awful things that have happened in this country,

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Speaker 1: like so many awful tragedies. Over time, there will be

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Speaker 1: positive to come out of this. She will not have

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Speaker 1: died in vain. This senseless, gruesome murder that this man

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Speaker 1: of you have probably watched the first video that was

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Speaker 1: actually striking her. I think the most emotional thing that

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Speaker 1: But then I think it dawned on her that she's wounded,

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Speaker 1: There's got to be some good that we'll come out

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Speaker 1: Arena Zerutska. And yeah, I even looked up because I've

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Speaker 1: in a positive way in the future. But I'm going

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six midterms and then of course the twenty

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Speaker 1: You might not like the sound that I'm about to

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Speaker 1: to want to hear, and that is Kamala Harris. That's right,

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is back in the news today. She apparently

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Speaker 1: Letting criminals out on no cash bell? Where does she

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Speaker 1: And the short explanation of it basically is that you,

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Speaker 1: as a perpetrator, can commit various violent acts, including murder itself,

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Speaker 1: absolute idiocy of a law like this. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Things right now are so bad for the Democrats. You know,

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Speaker 1: Or I should say, there's nothing worse than what happened

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Speaker 1: Are mentally ill and you commit a act of violence,

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you, Mike. It's an absolute pleasure. I think

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Speaker 6: The regular is Newsome Harris. I've certainly seen Wes Moore

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Speaker 6: for governor in Maryland. Fritzkers been floated, Buddha Judge again,

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Speaker 6: Gretchen Whitmer. These are names that they've kind of shown

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Speaker 6: what they're able to do on a national level. I

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Speaker 6: certainly is having a hard time making friends at the

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Speaker 6: be wanting to look for a savior in the form

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Speaker 6: that person for them yet could be. I certainly, you know,

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Speaker 6: I see AOC's name out there a lot, and you

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Speaker 6: obviously see the Mandani success in New York, and I,

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Speaker 6: you know, I see tendencies that they're leaning further left.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that there's any chance of having a

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Speaker 6: national support if that's the direction they go. But be

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Speaker 6: based on the evidence that I've seen, I don't know

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Speaker 1: Here's my prediction, and I'd like you to hear your

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Speaker 1: with identitarianism. They still are so focused on people's skin

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Speaker 2: And also they are way more and that's why I

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Speaker 2: can you know, I'm not I don't.

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Speaker 1: Use this as a as a vindictive I it's it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a or invictive I should say it is

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Speaker 1: a it's accurate to call them the Democrat Party because

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Speaker 1: they're not democratic. They have the super delegates and the

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Speaker 1: you know, party leaders deciding things. Heck, they didn't even

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Speaker 1: have a primary last year for president, which which it's

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Speaker 1: glossed over and not even talked about in this In

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Speaker 1: this you know kerfuffle with Kamala Harris today, she never

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Speaker 1: apologizes for that or any of the leaders do. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think that they are going to allow I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about the Democrat powers that be. They're not going

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Speaker 1: because they don't want to lose three times in a

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Speaker 1: row with a female at the top or not in

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Speaker 1: a row. But yeah, because Hillary lost and Kamo lost

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Speaker 1: also don't think that they're going to allow again, just

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Speaker 1: talking about the Democrats here, Pete Boota judge. He is gay,

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Speaker 1: openly obviously, and I don't think they're going to allow

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Speaker 1: an effeminate man. And I don't even think that Pete

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Speaker 1: base off, just a small chunk, but enough to switch

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Speaker 1: an election. And they're also not going to allow an

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Speaker 1: effeminate man. So that rules out Tim Walls and arguably

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Speaker 1: Corey Booker, So I don't think either of those guys

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Speaker 1: and there's also a strain and a significant strain of

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Speaker 1: anti Semitism on the left, and I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: going to accept a Jewish man on the ticket that

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Speaker 1: rolls out Shapiro and yes JB. Pritzker Pritzkrew is Jewish,

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Speaker 1: So I think it is going to be a man,

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Speaker 1: a masculine man, quote unquote and his masculine as Democrats

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Speaker 1: can get. And that gets you to Wes Moore and yes,

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, We're going to take a quick break, and

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Speaker 1: I want to hear Ellie's thoughts on that that that's

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Speaker 1: going to be the ticket one of those two after

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. We're back on Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Coolidge filling in for mister Katz. Coolidge

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Speaker 1: is spelled with they K. Tony Katz dot com is

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Speaker 1: Ellie Buffkin, we have about two minutes. Why am I

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Speaker 1: wrong that the ticket is going to consist for Democrats?

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty eight of Gavin Newsom and Wes Moore.

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Speaker 6: I just don't think that they are doing enough to

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Speaker 6: show a broad, big tent Democrats party that they have

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Speaker 6: the power to win an election against somebody who is

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Speaker 6: anointed by Donald Trump. Now, whether or not that means

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Speaker 6: it's going to be a JD. Vance ticket or a

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Speaker 6: Marco Rubio ticket, you know, this is all also up

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Speaker 6: for discussion.

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Speaker 2: Well, Advance end Rubio, he could be, could be.

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Speaker 6: I think that right now, even people who are very

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Speaker 6: critical of the president see that he's doing things that

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Speaker 6: are actually making difference. Again, you can argue with what

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Speaker 6: he's done, but when a president actually affects real change

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Speaker 6: that you can see, for instance, what's going on in DC.

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Speaker 6: The biggest Trump critics are walking around the city now

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Speaker 6: and they're saying, well, I do see a lot less

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Speaker 6: of these sort of lifestyle crimes, the things that make

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Speaker 6: me nervous to walk to my car. I'm not really

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Speaker 6: seeing that much right now. And when you have people

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Speaker 6: like Wes Moore, who in my city says we don't

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Speaker 6: have a crime problem, Well, I own a home in

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Speaker 6: South Baltimore and I'm telling you, first fan, that is

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Speaker 6: not true. We have businesses that have shut down for

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Speaker 6: years and are still vacant because nobody wants to open

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Speaker 6: there because there's swarms of kids that just wren't around

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Speaker 6: and stealed from them and it's not worth it for

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Speaker 6: them to stay open. Now, that's not a gun crime,

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Speaker 6: which Wes Moore seems to think is the only problem

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Speaker 6: in Baltimore. That's still lifestyle crime. That's the kind of

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Speaker 6: thing that drives value down, that kills businesses, that makes

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Speaker 6: people not want to move there. These are the types

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Speaker 6: of things that are rauting are major American cities, and

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Speaker 6: people like Westmore and Gavin Newsom have not identified this,

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Speaker 6: and this is why they have such an enormous problem

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Speaker 6: on the national level with people in the center, and

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Speaker 6: both of those people have done a lot to erode

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Speaker 6: the support and confidence of people who are driven by

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Speaker 6: family values. You see a lot of movement towards conservativism

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Speaker 6: in the Hispanic community, in the Black community, because there's

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Speaker 6: a lot more adherence to family values, and even though

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Speaker 6: they don't agree with everything that they see on a

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Speaker 6: conservative ticket, they definitely don't agree with a lot that

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Speaker 6: they're seeing. That's very, very vocal and very palpable.

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Speaker 1: On the latice I absolutely agree. I absolutely agree. We

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Speaker 1: unfortunately have a heart out here. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: Ellie Buffkin for coming on to Tony Katz today. I

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Speaker 1: am Mike Coolidge.

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Speaker 2: We will be right back