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Speaker 2: And then us.

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Speaker 3: Now you might have trouble hearing it.

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Speaker 4: That's because there was a recorded conversation between the before

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Speaker 4: much more than that, because within this conversation is the

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Speaker 3: Full on.

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Speaker 4: Shake Tapper. I'm shocked to know that this happened. You're

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Speaker 4: the only ones Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, A pleasure

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Speaker 4: to be with you. Senator Todd Young scheduled to be

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Speaker 4: with us in just a few minutes. Why can't we

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Speaker 4: pass the dang Save Act already? Also, he was there

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Speaker 4: and Iran strategy. But these tapes, I mean between what

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden, I mean, this stuff is stunning.

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Speaker 5: So this was high early on.

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Speaker 5: I just found all the classified stuff downstairs.

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Speaker 4: All the classified stuff you found downstairs, Well, fantastic.

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Speaker 3: That makes me feel safe.

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Speaker 4: Hey, how many times was your sniffing son around the

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Speaker 4: classified documents? And did he get any extra scratch for them?

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Speaker 4: You know, give somebody some access, maybe put something in

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Speaker 3: Oh, that be on the pale. I can't assume that.

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Speaker 4: Not only do I assume it, I'm four seconds away

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Speaker 3: Would I believe it?

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Speaker 4: Oh, you you better believe You better believe that. I

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Speaker 4: It might be classified, it's not more classified. Who knows,

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Speaker 4: was you know, if this was your father, if this

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Speaker 4: To all of us before, except we know with Biden

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Speaker 4: They all knew it, they all saw it, this cabal.

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Speaker 4: It's over everything that Robert Hurst said. I would bring

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Speaker 4: That guy Joe Biden was never aware that he was president.

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Speaker 4: to a key question for Republicans, why the hell can't

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Speaker 4: we pass the Save Act? Senator Todd Young scheduled me

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Speaker 4: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today. So

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Speaker 4: our question is, how come we can't pass the Save Act?

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Speaker 3: What is it that Senator Soon has against this?

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Speaker 4: Now? I know you want to jump in, Senator Todd Young,

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: This isn't like those other shows you do. This is

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Speaker 4: And you know it's classy because I use the word

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Speaker 4: classy Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz today an absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 4: Senator Todd Young joins us right now, the Senator from Indiana,

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Speaker 4: the senior Senator, and I do want to talk about

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Speaker 4: You you were there, How was the Was the mood

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Speaker 6: It was somber, but even many of the speeches reflecting

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Speaker 6: it was really meaningful, and I'm sure it meant a

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Speaker 4: I was caught a part of it earlier today. I

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Speaker 3: You've got the.

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Speaker 4: absolutely positively, no recess. What is everybody talking about? Pass

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Speaker 4: filibuster and be done with this, sir, Why can't we

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Speaker 6: Well, this place can be maddening. It can be frustrating,

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Speaker 7: And you know, it's worked.

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Speaker 6: It's worked. Boosiers know it works. They can't understand why

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Speaker 7: So what does the process look like up here?

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Speaker 8: Well, the House has acted, the House has passed it,

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Speaker 8: This is bad news for the Democratic Party. But we

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Speaker 6: In fact, and I think the President is rightly focused

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Speaker 6: But I think the obvious strategy is just to take

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Speaker 4: And with that, we know that there are some Republicans

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Speaker 4: Because every time I hear the conversation, sir, and I

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Speaker 4: seems to be this idea that the voter ID provisions

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Speaker 6: I have not heard that variant of the argument. I'm

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Speaker 6: highly skeptical of that one. I will say that some

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Speaker 6: many of my constituents have concerns about the integrity of

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Speaker 6: and support it strongly, because I haven't heard any good

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Speaker 4: Talking to Senator Todd Young of Indiana in support of

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Speaker 4: the President's saying get rid of the filibuster.

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Speaker 4: Oh sorry about that, everybody, Center Todd Young right there.

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Speaker 4: This is Tony Katz today. So you've got Trump meeting

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Speaker 6: If I needed a democrat, he could usually produce that

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Speaker 4: I'll be able to bring that. You, guys, what has

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Speaker 4: in the real politique of the situation than the desires

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Speaker 4: that the Vice President has. I felt this way about

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris. I feel this way about JD. Vance and

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Speaker 4: jd Vance is a wicked bright cat. But maybe it

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Speaker 4: was that dust up that made Zelensky rethink how you

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Speaker 4: engage the approach. But what it really was was the

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Speaker 4: fact that Ukraine wasn't just saying give, give, give, give, give, help, help, help, provide, provide, provide.

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Speaker 4: They said, here, look what we can do, and they

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Speaker 4: started developing drone technology that quite simply.

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Speaker 3: Has been fascinating.

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Speaker 4: They have been able to send drones six hundred miles

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Speaker 4: into Russia and blow up this They've been able to

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Speaker 4: hit tankers and oil facilities in the seas. It has

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Speaker 4: been remarkable what the Ukrainians have been able to do.

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Speaker 4: Under some very brutal conditions and under constant attack by

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Speaker 4: the air, they have been able to develop drone technology

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Speaker 4: that is simply flabbergasting. We took notice, and when I

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Speaker 4: say we, I mean Donald Trump. Trump took notice and said, well,

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Speaker 4: that's pretty impressive. They're actually doing something for themselves and

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Speaker 4: look at that technology that works. Well, well, if they're

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Speaker 4: not just going to takers, are actually going to do something,

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Speaker 4: and we can use that something because if they've got

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Speaker 4: that something, we could then buy that something or work

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Speaker 4: out some other kind of deal.

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Speaker 3: And then we could use that.

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Speaker 4: Where we've got four million dollars a Patriot, is it

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Speaker 4: better we're spending eighty two thousand dollars whatever it is

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Speaker 4: a drone and that's a way better. ROLI, let's use that.

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Speaker 3: Let's do that. Hey, Vladimir, how are the kids?

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Speaker 4: And that's what led to some of the deals and

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Speaker 4: the deals about drones and the creation of drones and

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Speaker 4: the building of drones, and the deal about allowing Patriot

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Speaker 4: system to be built in Ukraine. We knew this from

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Speaker 4: the beginning, because we've always been very honest about the conversation.

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Speaker 4: We knew immediately that that was a security guarantee. Remember

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Speaker 4: how Ukraine was constantly asking for security guarantees and wanted

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Speaker 4: security guarantees. Basically they wanted American troops on the ground. Well,

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Speaker 4: that wasn't the case. You're just demanding things, you haven't

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Speaker 4: provided a value proposition. We're the good Holy damn. And

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Speaker 4: then we heard about the deal for rare earths, and

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Speaker 4: what we said is, well, there's a deal for rare

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Speaker 4: earths and you're gonna have us companies in Ukraine for

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Speaker 4: rare earths. Well, then that's security guarantees. It's right there.

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Speaker 4: It's easy to understand. But the rarest thing never got

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Speaker 4: off the ground. I mean, maybe it is happening in

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Speaker 4: places just and haven't been talked about.

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Speaker 3: I certainly haven't seen any recent reporting on it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, it was a talk, it was an idea,

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Speaker 4: but that didn't come to fruition. Maybe it'll come to

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Speaker 4: fruition later. But the minute you heard that we're going

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Speaker 4: to allow patriots to be built and utilized in country,

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Speaker 4: that was it. We're gonna start building drones with them

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Speaker 4: security guarantees. It had to be the thing Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 4: hated to hear the most, the most other than you know,

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Speaker 4: you're no Yelton. I'm trying to think what would be

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Speaker 4: like the worst comparison, You're no Bresne or you know, Yeltsin.

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Speaker 4: I'm going with Yeltsin and go with divorce Yeltin right there,

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Speaker 4: because now you've got Americans in country protecting what is theirs.

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Speaker 4: Russians are never going to advance another inch if Americans

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Speaker 4: are there, never going to advance another inch. And then

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Speaker 4: you started seeing how Vladimir Zelenski over the last year

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Speaker 4: has discussed what they're willing to do and putting themselves

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Speaker 4: on the line to stop this Russian threat. And this

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Speaker 4: is important for the globe and we have to stop

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Speaker 4: them where they are and this is our job to do.

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Speaker 4: Zelenski not only showed a value but learned from net

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Speaker 4: and Yahoo how to engage the larger community, starting with

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Speaker 4: the United States. So what do I think of this

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Speaker 4: meeting today? I look forward to being able to bring

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Speaker 4: someone to you if they share it. But the dynamic

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Speaker 4: has changed, and Vladimir Putin and his supporters, like is

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Speaker 4: Tucker supporter, No, just to the supermarkets, got it, they

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Speaker 4: come out on the losing end. I'm Tony Katz. This

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Speaker 4: is Tony Katz today before I knew Lindsay.

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Speaker 10: One of the most enduring parts of his legacy is

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Speaker 10: I do believe that Justice Kavanall would not be on

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Speaker 10: the Supreme Court were it not for his fierce advocacy

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Speaker 10: during a critical moment. Remember that Senate confirmation hearing where

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Speaker 10: Lindsay and by the way, he got criticism from the

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Speaker 10: Republican side.

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Speaker 4: Of the aisle for this.

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Speaker 10: He would always vote for qualified Democrat judicial nominations. He

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Speaker 10: came to the judicial nomination process in a spirit of bipartisanship. Again,

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Speaker 10: he was criticized sometimes from our.

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Speaker 4: Side of the aisle for that. But what he saw.

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Speaker 10: Happening to Kavanaugh was not a policy disagreement. It was

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Speaker 10: character assassination. And Lindsay got as fiery and as passionate

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Speaker 10: as I have ever seen a human being get during

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Speaker 10: a judicial confirmation. And I believe that he saved that nomination.

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Speaker 4: It was a sum of Lindsay Graham's best work. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz. Today the funeral for Lindsay Graham. Today they

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Speaker 4: had the memorial service there at the Capitol. That's where

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Speaker 4: the Vice President J. D. Vance spoke. There will be

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Speaker 4: a funeral later today at the National Cathedral. President Trump

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Speaker 4: will be in attendance, along with the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 4: Israel Benjaminettnia who the President of Ukraine, Vladimir Zelenski, and

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Speaker 4: a host of others. And yes, if you go and

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Speaker 4: you look, you'll see plenty of people who hated Lindsay

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Speaker 4: Graham thought he was terrible warmonger, this, that, the other,

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Speaker 4: And that's just Marjorie Tayler Green. If you are concerned

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Speaker 4: about what people are going to say about you when

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Speaker 4: you pass, I I don't think you're doing it right.

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Speaker 4: I make no concerns about what they are going to

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Speaker 4: say about me at the time of of of my passing,

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Speaker 4: my wife, my kids at that full stop, that's it. Listen,

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Speaker 4: I love you, I love doing this show. I love

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Speaker 4: that we're growing, I love that we're building. But in

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Speaker 4: the end, and I think everybody can appreciate this, there

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Speaker 4: comes a moment where you gonna be like, the things

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Speaker 4: that matter most, my wife, those kids. After that, I'm done.

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Speaker 4: So let them say what they're going to say. It's

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Speaker 4: it's it's inconsequential. Sure you can talk about legacy, and

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Speaker 4: sure you can talk about how people are going to

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Speaker 4: try and paint you for history and who writes the

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Speaker 4: history and all all that. You know, it's it's Hamilton

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Speaker 4: who he tells your story. There will be plenty of

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Speaker 4: people who get outrageously, outrageously angry, but I only hope

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Speaker 4: that for the family of Lindsay Graham, that they are

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Speaker 4: focused on what they think and not what somebody on

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Speaker 4: a social media account with nine followers things, because people

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Speaker 4: don't count. Don't ever forget that.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here.

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Speaker 4: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Why from dall Hertbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: So now we.

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Speaker 4: Know what we already knew. There is no bigger low

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Speaker 4: life than Anthony Fauci.

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Speaker 3: And that's saying something.

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Speaker 4: Because we've got some we got some real terrible people

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Speaker 4: out there. But who else? Let Grandpa die alone? Tony Katz,

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz today an absolute pleasure. Somebody had posted a photo.

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Speaker 4: If I can find it, I'll share it where it

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Speaker 4: was here. It is here. I had never seen this before.

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Speaker 4: This was in a window from a hospital and it's

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Speaker 4: hospital workers dressed up in in the gear right, the

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Speaker 4: protective gear, and they got the mask. They've got the

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Speaker 4: mask on, and then they've got the shield on, and

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Speaker 4: then they're in. They're they're draped and then they're in

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Speaker 4: in gloves and on the window they have two signs

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Speaker 4: and it says he is at peace and we are

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Speaker 4: so sorry. So the family couldn't be there at the

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Speaker 4: end for Grandpa or dad or mom, whoever it was.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't be there. You couldn't be there for your

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Speaker 4: loved one. And so this is how they relaid messages.

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Speaker 4: I had never seen that before. For that alone, there

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Speaker 4: is nothing you could do to Anthony Fauci that I

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Speaker 4: would think It's too much. He deserves every part of

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Speaker 4: the hates Tony Katz. Tony Katz today an absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 4: I think I already said Helot, Sometimes I forget. The

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Speaker 4: people who deserve an equal abundance of disgust are those

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Speaker 4: in the media who acted like nothing was wrong. We

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Speaker 4: should really look at the total lack of journalism, the

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Speaker 4: lack of journalism during COVID, the lack of journalism during Biden.

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Speaker 4: Exactly how much bad journalism non journalism is going to

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Speaker 4: take place until we realize that none of these people

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Speaker 4: can be tryed. On CNN yesterday, one of the participants

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Speaker 4: there in Abby Phillips show brought up Anthony Fauci and

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Speaker 4: Abby Philip and the two Democrats on the panel, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: we're not talking, Oh my gosh, oh how dare you?

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Speaker 4: They moved right by it. Nope, we're not talking about that.

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Speaker 4: Well we are because CNN and MSNBC are freaking guilty. Now,

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Speaker 4: they're not guilty of saying, here's what the experts are saying.

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Speaker 4: You know, the same people that Trump had up on

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Speaker 4: the stage.

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Speaker 3: They're not guilty of that.

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Speaker 4: They're guilty of not saying, Hey, the data is not

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Speaker 4: comporting with some of these other stories. So to take

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Speaker 4: a walk back in time, I'll take it from from

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Speaker 4: my point of view.

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Speaker 3: I was doing the show from my home.

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Speaker 4: Right. I'd gone to a seapacks of Conservative Political Action

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Speaker 4: conference in DC, Trump as president, Mike Pence's vice president.

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Speaker 4: One person we had gotten back, one person had COVID,

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Speaker 4: and my station said not. And people didn't know anything.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of concern, a lot of fear.

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Speaker 4: Remember the moment in time, Try not to get too

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Speaker 4: angry about it. And they said, hey, why don't you

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Speaker 4: do the show from home this week? Now? That was

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Speaker 4: in well, I don't know those February March of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: All I know is I ever went back to the station.

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Speaker 4: I've been doing the show from home ever since, and

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Speaker 4: for me, greatest thing in the world. Oh a pleasure

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Speaker 4: a pleasure because when I worked from home, everybody knows

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Speaker 4: if I'm working or not. Right, it's fine, I'm either

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Speaker 4: talking or I'm not. And yes, I'm wearing pants. Always

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Speaker 4: wear pants. I don't understand these people who do radio

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Speaker 4: or and they don't wear pants, and they don't get

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Speaker 4: dr I don't understand how don't ask me about the tube?

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Speaker 4: And I can't figure that one out at all. One

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Speaker 4: person had COVID and everybody lost their minds for a

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Speaker 4: little bit. And certainly when there was the conversation you'll

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Speaker 4: remember well of fifteen days to stop the spread. It

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Speaker 4: was really in our conversations, I remember them clearly, fifteen

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Speaker 4: days to flatten the curve. The conversation had been about

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Speaker 4: we are overwhelming the hospitals. They can't keep up and

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Speaker 4: there was a serious issue. So how could we flatten

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Speaker 4: the curve? This rising the amount officases in COVID? Could

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Speaker 4: everybody just rein it in for two weeks? Now? I

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Speaker 4: don't believe that government ever has the right to keep

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Speaker 4: you in your home. We're searching for somebody in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: You have to stay indoors. I could go anywhere I want.

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Speaker 4: Screw you, You know those people in Minnesota law enforcement.

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Speaker 4: You were standing on your porch and they said it's COVID,

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Speaker 4: you have to be inside. And they were like, I

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Speaker 4: don't have to be inside. And so they shot like

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Speaker 4: beanbags and other things out these citizens. Every one of

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Speaker 4: those cops, every one of those cops should be in

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Speaker 4: jail today. To hell with all of them. But at

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Speaker 4: least first they had sold the story. They explained to

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Speaker 4: America what they were trying to do. I could accept

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Speaker 4: the idea that we could all engage this together and

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Speaker 4: all help out together. Well, of course that didn't do anything. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I can accept the fact that you tried something. It

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Speaker 4: didn't work. People didn't know what we were dealing with.

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Speaker 4: The problem is we saw data happening while we were

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Speaker 4: told something else. I can remember about two months in,

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Speaker 4: I turned to my program director for my morning station.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was Tim Wallas's Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: That's correct, that shot at people saying you have to

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Speaker 4: get in your house. I went to my program director,

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Speaker 4: I went to my executive producer, and I said, these

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Speaker 4: are the numbers that they keep telling me, that they

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Speaker 4: keep pushing these numbers. The numbers are infected. The number

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Speaker 4: of debt, number infected, number of debt. These numbers are

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Speaker 4: not accurate. This is about two months two months in

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Speaker 4: and you started realizing that they were putting everything, every death,

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Speaker 4: everywhere to COVID.

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Speaker 3: You remember this, You lived through this a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: They never once said they're applying it.

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Speaker 4: They're attributing it to COVID, but they're not answering the

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Speaker 4: question about other things. Did they already have some other

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Speaker 4: issue that COVID exacerbated. When we talk about George Floyd,

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Speaker 4: it was not the knee on the neck that killed

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Speaker 4: George Floyd. Although I don't approve of the knee on

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Speaker 4: the neck, I don't approve of any of the tactics

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Speaker 4: that the police took that day. George Floyd died because

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Speaker 4: George Floyd was a drug user, and George Floyd killed himself.

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Speaker 4: A lot of these people had a underlying health condition

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Speaker 4: or a prominent health condition, and COVID put them over.

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Speaker 4: So we take a look at these numbers, it's not

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Speaker 4: COVID killing people. It's what they already had and COVID

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Speaker 4: speeding it along adding to it. It was just the

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Speaker 4: wrong way to approach the numbers. That it was easy

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Speaker 4: to see, at least from our view, that people were

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Speaker 4: engaging in the fear mongering. And for me, on a

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Speaker 4: personal level, the thing that became so disgusting was that

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Speaker 4: here is something that we all are dealing with, we

688
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Speaker 4: can all fix, like, we can get through this together.

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Speaker 4: And people decided let's make it political. I said, this

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Speaker 4: is the greatest scumbaggery in the world. This is just

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Speaker 4: gross and obscene. Then there were those of us who said, listen,

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Speaker 4: I don't care how quickly you put together a vaccine.

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Speaker 3: I'm not taking that.

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Speaker 4: And that's when we started hearing the real blatant lies.

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Speaker 4: We heard them because we shared everything. If there was

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Speaker 4: ever a moment that really delineated conservative radio and conservative

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Speaker 4: talk and conservative thought from the progressives on TV and

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Speaker 4: cable news, it was that we knew that even if

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Speaker 4: you took the vaccine, you could still spread COVID, and

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Speaker 4: these people who said that if you didn't get vaccinated

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Speaker 4: you were going to kill their grandmother were love. We

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Speaker 4: saw it clearly, we saw it easily, and we said

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have no part of this. And they tried

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Speaker 4: to attack us and rip us apart for it. And then,

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Speaker 4: of course the thing that was as egregious as anything

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Speaker 4: else out there. People went to church, and cities and

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Speaker 4: municipalities went to those churches and wrote down license plate

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Speaker 4: numbers of those who went to church. Any cop who

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Speaker 4: wrote down a license plate numbers should be thrown off

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Speaker 4: the force, lose your pension. Don't want to hear a story.

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Speaker 4: Don't give a damn Oh, I was just doing my job.

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Speaker 4: You could do the job somewhere else, because you have

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Speaker 4: no capacity to be a part of the public trust

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Speaker 4: zero kitten. We early saw the lies, and what we

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Speaker 4: saw was this conversation isn't matching up with these numbers.

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Speaker 4: And then we saw how people who wanted to have

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Speaker 4: a conversation were not allowed to have a conversation. And

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Speaker 4: we knew. We knew, no matter where we were on

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Speaker 4: vaccines or this or that or the other, we knew

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Speaker 4: the minute you saw people not able to have a conversation,

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Speaker 4: we knew that there were those people trying to stifle conversation,

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Speaker 4: trying to prevent conversation, to keep you, me and we

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Speaker 4: from having data. That's when it all blew up. That's

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Speaker 4: when we realized that the people telling us to trust

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Speaker 4: the science believe in the science rely on the science.

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Speaker 4: They were lying because they didn't have the science and

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Speaker 4: everything that has been released by Senator rand Paul. You

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Speaker 4: know who should be a Time Magazine's Man of the Year,

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Speaker 4: Senator Rand Paul for putting his teeth directly into Anthony

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Speaker 4: Fauci and never letting go. A mask won't help you.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, wait, a mask is exactly what you need.

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Speaker 4: Oh this came from a wet market. Well, no, it

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Speaker 4: probably didn't come from a wet market when they knew

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Speaker 4: back in January of twenty twenty, it didn't come from

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Speaker 4: a wet market. And Tom Elliott over there a Grabian,

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Speaker 4: which is a source I use for a lot of audio.

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Speaker 3: He put together this doozy of Fauci and the press.

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Speaker 11: But they're really criticizing science because I represent science.

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Speaker 4: If you're vaccinated, you really don't need to worry about

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Speaker 4: getting it in a way that's serious.

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Speaker 3: For transmitting it, that is true.

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Speaker 4: That is correct, Chris. It'll lead to protect you completely

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Speaker 4: against infection, and the chances are very likely that you'll

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Speaker 4: not be able to transmit it.

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Speaker 3: To other people.

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Speaker 11: The risk is extremely low of transmitting it to anybody else.

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Speaker 4: Full stocks needed.

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Speaker 11: People are clearly capable of transmitting the infection. When you're

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Speaker 11: in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might.

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Speaker 4: Make people feel a little bit better. If people are

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Speaker 4: not wearing masks, then maybe we should be manned.

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Speaker 11: Adiot, I often myself wear two masks, and I'm quoting it.

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Speaker 4: That was Fauci over a timeline, no mask, to absolutely

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Speaker 4: wear a mask, to wear I wear two masks all

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Speaker 4: the while, by the way, loving how much TV he

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Speaker 4: was on, loving being in the spotlight, writing about how

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Speaker 4: other people were upset that he was getting so much attention,

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Speaker 4: and while he was quite literally horing himself out because

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Speaker 4: he wanted to be popular and loved Grandma died alone.

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Speaker 12: Now, at the population level, masks work at the margins,

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Speaker 12: maybe ten percent. To hear that they only work at

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Speaker 12: the margins, maybe ten percent, would make a lot of

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Speaker 12: people ask, then why was I wearing a mask?

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Speaker 11: You're really attacking not only doctor Anthony Fauci, you were

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Speaker 11: attacking science when you say that this is going to

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Speaker 11: go away tomorrow like magic, when you know that there's

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Speaker 11: no chance it's going to just disappear. We hope this

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Speaker 11: just goes away, burns itself out.

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Speaker 13: So my question is why weren't you straight with the

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Speaker 13: American people about this to begin with?

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Speaker 4: So the bottom line is it's a guesstimate. I gave

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Speaker 4: a range.

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Speaker 13: It seemed in that quote to suggest that you were

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Speaker 13: basing your recommendation on pulling on what people could accept.

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Speaker 13: Is that not what you meant?

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Speaker 4: No, I mean it's a bit of that. We're seeing

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Speaker 4: all of you. And then, of course, on the closing

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Speaker 4: of schools, he made the that he never suggested closing schools,

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Speaker 4: but we have his diary entries where he spoke to

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Speaker 4: Build de Blasio, the New York mayor, about closing schools,

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Speaker 4: and Build a Blasio said, I'll follow your recommendations, and

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Speaker 4: he recommended to the chief of staff of Governor Gavin

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Speaker 4: Newsom California that they closed the schools. We saw the lies,

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Speaker 4: and now we know that they were lies because we

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Speaker 4: have the information. Yet media never questioned a damn thing.

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Speaker 4: CNN and MSNBC now, ms NOW and the New York

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Speaker 4: Times and the Washington Posts and all the rest. Oh,

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Speaker 4: they couldn't question. Twitter wouldn't let you question. Remember that's

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Speaker 4: why we have Elon Musk owning Twitter now X because

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Speaker 4: Twitter wouldn't let you talk the media like the science

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Speaker 4: demands our fealty, but they don't do any work.

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Speaker 3: They're not journalists.

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Speaker 4: You know. The journalists were you and I because we

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Speaker 4: were noticing that the figures that were being put out

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Speaker 4: was not matching reality.

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Speaker 3: Told on the ground.

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Speaker 4: We saw that there was a disconnected We asked what

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Speaker 4: is this all about? And people wanted to talk about

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Speaker 4: the disconnect and they were told they couldn't announce when

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Speaker 4: we knew that this was a fix, that this was

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Speaker 4: a con, not the idea of COVID, not the idea

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Speaker 4: that people didn't die from COVID, not the idea that

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Speaker 4: they weren't complications, but that this whole we should lockdown

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Speaker 4: society was a fraud. Well, Anthony Fauci led the fraud,

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Speaker 4: and the media they followed. They didn't journalism. They didn't

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Speaker 4: ask questions, they didn't look anywhere. They just said whatever

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Speaker 4: we have to say, and then they had dinner with

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Speaker 4: the fraudsters. You cannot hate the media enough, and if

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00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 4: you want to punish them, you only do it in

810
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Speaker 4: two ways. Stop watching and stop buying from their sponsors.

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Speaker 4: And you do it now, Sorry, CNN sponsors, You're not

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Speaker 4: good enough. Can't have you. You can't support this stuff anymore,

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Speaker 4: can't support the MS now sponsor no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 4: It's the only two ways to handle this. It's the

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Speaker 4: only way they're gonna learn. Keep it here. It's Tony

816
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Speaker 4: Katz today. So in newly uncovered Biden White House memo

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Speaker 4: showed that they wanted to expand temporary protected status to

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Speaker 4: another three million non citizens right TPS Temporary protected status.

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Speaker 4: You've got some disaster or some political disaster in your country,

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Speaker 4: you can get protection here and stay here for a while.

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Speaker 4: Wow me, I'm Tony Katz. The show is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 4: And Haitians got this. And we noticed this going to

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Speaker 4: visit Springfield, Ohio. Remember they're eating the dogs, they're eating

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Speaker 4: the cats. That was not happening according to the people.

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Speaker 4: But they were eating the geese and they could not drive,

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Speaker 4: and it created a massive housing issue. Lots of things

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Speaker 4: did happen. And what we saw was was the amount

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Speaker 4: of people who were so thrilled with the Haitian population

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Speaker 4: because they're working in the factories and this and that,

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Speaker 4: and the factory owners love them. And we asked, we've

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Speaker 4: got the video to prove it. Is this some kind

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Speaker 4: of is this some kind of jobs programmed that we're

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Speaker 4: now creating here? Is that what this is? I didn't

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Speaker 4: know we were going to be right. We had no idea.

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Speaker 4: Myself and Fingers the law he does, eat, drink, smoke

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Speaker 4: with me, and we went we checked out. I was like,

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Speaker 4: this whole love affair right, because it really were very

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Speaker 4: few people who were like angry angry. They're more angry

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Speaker 4: at the city and the state and the Feds for

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Speaker 4: not helping them prepare for all of this.

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Speaker 3: They weren't necessarily mad at these people. But every time

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Speaker 3: you talked.

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Speaker 4: About the factories, Oh, the factory workers love them all,

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Speaker 4: the factory owners love them all. It's so great for

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Speaker 4: the factories.

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Speaker 3: Is this a jobs program? We would ask it and people.

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Speaker 4: Be like, oh, I don't know. But Fingers and I were.

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Speaker 3: Like, this is this is exactly what it looks like.

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Speaker 4: We didn't know. We were right. Temporary Protected Status was

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Speaker 4: a jobs program, and the Biden administration to the very end,

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Speaker 4: remember wasn't Joe Biden. Biden wasn't running the country. They

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Speaker 4: wanted to use TPS as a way of bringing more

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Speaker 4: people legally into the country to do more damage to

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump anything to hurt him. They didn't care if

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Speaker 4: they hurt the country. As long as they hurt Trump,

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Speaker 4: they did not care. They never cared. That's them. That's

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Speaker 4: today's left. What they say is not what they do,

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Speaker 4: and not what they do is not what they're actually

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Speaker 4: talking about. Trust. That's a tough one. Right there. We've

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Speaker 4: got three more things coming up, and keep it here.

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Speaker 4: It's Tony Katz today. Three more things, Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 4: Katz today. Good to be here, good to be with

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Speaker 4: You find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 3: T O n y k A t Z.

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Speaker 4: That's how you spelling him in case you are curious

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Speaker 4: Tony kats dot com.

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Speaker 3: One are three more things.

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Speaker 4: Well, these are things that should be front page news,

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00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 4: but because of all the news on the front page,

870
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: it doesn't make the front page. Of course, we have

871
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 4: the funeral today going on to the National Cathedral of

872
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 4: the late Senator Lindsey Graham. He is body lied and

873
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 4: state lied Leyden state was in state was his body.

874
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 4: The memorial service there happening at the Capitol. The Vice

875
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 4: President J. D. Mann speaking, the Senate Majority Leader John

876
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 4: Thune speaking, lots of senators appearing certainly not all, not all.

877
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 4: Lindsey Graham was a guy who was not loved by all.

878
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 4: Very few people are loved by all. It's okay, right,

879
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 4: Not all of us are Betty White. And I'm sure

880
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: she had some detractor out there somewhere out there. Betty

881
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 4: White dies at the age of ninety nine. The great

882
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 4: shows the Golden Girls love, the love of pets and

883
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: caring for pets, becoming this America's grandma sweetheart, which is

884
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: something we love. In a door and somewhere out there

885
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 4: there was a woman Shane smoking pall Mall's, sitting in

886
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 4: her trailer watching the TV going that bitch, I'm glad

887
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 4: she's dead. Somewhere that happened, and then she took a

888
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 4: dragon went.

889
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: Oh, that's the good stuff.

890
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 4: You cannot please everybody. Please remember that all the rest

891
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: of your days. Lindsey Graham's gonna have to have his detractors. Fine,

892
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 4: not the people who matter. I said that earlier, I

893
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 4: say it now. Some of the headlines was first that

894
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 4: the CEO of Cracker Barrel is stepping down. And this

895
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: goes back to the whole rebrand thing. Remember when they

896
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 4: tried to rebrand Cracker Browl, and everyone's like, haha, nope, no, no, no, no, no,

897
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 4: no no. You leave our rocking chairs alone, and you

898
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 4: leave our Chinese checkers alone, and there better be a

899
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: lot of.

900
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 3: Gravy on them biscuits.

901
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 4: I'm talking about a stupid amount of diabetes inducing gravy.

902
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 4: Better take seven years off my life otherwise you have

903
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 4: to go. And Crackerbrowl apologized. They apologized, and they did

904
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 4: interviews and they tried to turn it around. And what

905
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: was interesting was that Cracker Barrel was actually picking up.

906
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: The sales end was picking up. The stock price had

907
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: gone down. It got hurt. But after this things had

908
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: started to get better. They still got rid of Julie Massino.

909
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 4: She is the CEO there, bringing on a new person.

910
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 4: She made six million dollars a year. Her annual compensation

911
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 4: six point four million, including a base salary of a

912
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 4: million dollars plus stock awards, and she's going to get

913
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: a four point six million dollar payout over a two

914
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 4: year period. As long as she remains terminated without cause,

915
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 4: she's going to get the four point six million. You mean,

916
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 4: I can screw with a great American brand. I can

917
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 4: still get two point three million a year. For two years.

918
00:58:54,840 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 4: That's four point six Where do I sign? Where do

919
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 4: I happy to do it? You want to see me

920
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 4: mess up a logo, you give me twenty minutes in AI,

921
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 4: I'll give you a logo four point six million dollars

922
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 4: add another million. That's my payout from radio. It's not

923
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 4: it's not my payout from Huh. That's that's a pity, really,

924
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 4: because that would be that would be just fine. I

925
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 4: think it's amazing. I think the whole freakout was amazing

926
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: because I remember the logo and that I remember the

927
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: new logo when I said, okay, whatever, How in the

928
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 4: world was I affected by their logo? I never understood

929
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: the anger or the angst. Now what I was told

930
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 4: was Tony, you don't understand how woke they're going. You

931
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 4: don't understand what's going on inside the store? I said,

932
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 4: is there's still a rocking chair? Can I still play

933
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 4: Chinese Checkers? What? What am I? What am I missing? But

934
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 4: clearly there was something And now you know, it's a

935
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 4: solid question. Did they not learn from Budweiser? Now Budweiser

936
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 4: really bud Light has battled back to at least do

937
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 4: the the the ads properly. And they've got Peyton Manning

938
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 4: doing the ads and Shane gillis doing the ads. Right.

939
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 4: These guys are like beer company wants to pay me,

940
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to say yes, I'm going to take their money.

941
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: If bud Light came to me and said we'd like

942
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 3: for you to.

943
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 4: Do an ad, I would say, have you fired all

944
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 4: the ridiculous people who thought they should put this caricature

945
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 4: of a prepubescent girl on their on their cans? And

946
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 4: have they said, well, yes we did. I'd be like, great,

947
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 4: where do I sign? Hey?

948
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz for bud Light. Bud Light.

949
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 4: Good. Wait, I can't say I'm good. That's from another

950
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 4: ad campaign. Okay, I'll do it differently, bud Light, just

951
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 4: do it now. I can't say just do it okay,

952
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 4: So can't say good and can't say just do it okay.

953
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: That's all right, I got it, No, no problem.

954
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,479
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, what what?

955
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 4: What?

956
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: What else can I say?

957
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: Now?

958
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: What else could I say? What else could I could?

959
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 4: I could I.

960
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 3: Bring in there, bud Light. I'm loving it. Seriously.

961
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 4: No, this is harder than I thought. This is harder

962
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 4: than I thought. For sure, I'll figure it out later.

963
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 3: I can do this.

964
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 4: I know I can do this one hundred. I haven't

965
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 4: gotten that offer yet, but she is out the door.

966
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 4: Then there is the story of Ilhan Omar and is

967
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 4: her sister linked to this Minnesota fraud. We are still

968
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 4: still in the midst of this. The millions, tens of

969
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 4: millions of not hundreds of millions, if not billions of

970
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 4: dollars that has been stolen from the American people, stolen

971
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 4: through the fraud and Medicare, medicaid, autism centers, all of it,

972
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 4: hospice all across the country, all fifty states. You know

973
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: it and I know it. But the story of this scandal,

974
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 4: this one with this group feeding our future, described as

975
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 4: the largest public theft of Minnesota history. And right now

976
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 4: there is a probe into Ilano Mar's involvement in the scandal,

977
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 4: public record stating that it's Omar's sister that may be

978
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 4: part of the operation. Her name is Sara Nor Sahr Nor,

979
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 4: running several businesses in the region, including the People's Center

980
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 4: Clinics and Services in the Somali neighborhood of Minneapolis, which

981
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 4: got a two million dollar ear mark. While her sister

982
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 4: was a state representative. Well, there you go.

983
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 3: She was a state rep.

984
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 4: Was Ilhanamar sister got two million dollars and everyone was like,

985
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 4: keep voting for what you don't care about the fraud

986
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: when it's somebody else's money. So now she went on

987
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 4: to find found a group called Grit Partners Consulting, and

988
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 4: they state that they have secured more than twenty million

989
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 4: in funding for health initiatives and consulted on projects back

990
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 4: by federal health agencies such as USAID and the Center

991
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 4: for Disease Control.

992
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 3: They can tell me that USAID costs.

993
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 4: Lives all they want. And I put forth to you

994
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 4: that USAID was a slush fund and we should never

995
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 4: put a dime to it, and we are all better off,

996
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 4: all better off that everything said about. Look at the

997
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 4: lives lost, Look at the people who got abused, the

998
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 4: American citizens who got abused. It wasn't worth it. It wasn't

999
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 4: worth it. It was a slush fund. It was used

1000
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 4: to prop up those who are fellow travelers on the

1001
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 4: taxpayer dime. I'm thrilled that it's gone. I want DOAGE

1002
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 4: to come back, and I want more cuts. Did we

1003
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 4: get rid of am far? Of course not. Do we

1004
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 4: still support a whole bunch of causes. You bet we do.

1005
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 4: Did it have to come to the USAID, Absolutely not.

1006
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 4: And I'll say it again for the people in the

1007
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 4: chief seats. I do not know if correlation is causation,

1008
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 4: but the idea that we don't on USAID we haven't

1009
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 4: seen any riots recently. That's just amazing that.

1010
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 3: I love that conspiracy theory.

1011
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 4: It is awesome, I tell you, awesome, fantastic. I have

1012
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 4: no idea if there's any correlation whatsoever. I just love

1013
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 4: that people talk about it. Oh As for Iljanomar's sister,

1014
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what's true here or not. I would

1015
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 4: immediately be investigating for sure, But considering I'm one of

1016
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 4: the people who absolutely believes that ilhan Omar married her

1017
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 4: brother to allow him to stay in the country. Absolutely

1018
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 4: I believe that this is possible, if not probable, innocent,

1019
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 4: don't proven guilty, and let's go investigate.

1020
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: And then.

1021
01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 4: According to a story five study published at the Journal

1022
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 4: of the American Dental Association, seventy three percent of adults

1023
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 4: report some level of dental fear. They're afraid of seeing

1024
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 4: the dentist producer landing. Are you afraid of seeing the dentists. No,

1025
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 4: I just don't like going.

1026
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 3: You don't like going, but you're not afraid.

1027
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, correct, Okay, I will tell you a shoe story first,

1028
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 4: not afraid.

1029
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 3: Second of all, don't care about going.

1030
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 4: When I am getting a cleaning, Tanya, how are you

1031
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 4: when I that is my hygienist, I fall asleep. If

1032
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 4: I'm getting a haircut, I absolutely fall asleep. It is relaxing.

1033
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 4: Teeth cleaning, cleaning of the tooth thies, I fall asleep

1034
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 4: in the chair while they are in my mouth cleaning.

1035
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 4: Have you ever done that landing? I've been close many times. Yeah,

1036
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 4: I'm just out like a light gone, and people look

1037
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 4: at me like, how in the world do you do that? Like,

1038
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 4: turns out easily, very very very easily.

1039
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 3: Just there's something.

1040
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 4: I don't fall asleep in the middle of the of

1041
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 4: the afternoon, right and someone asked if I need a seapop.

1042
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,959
Speaker 4: I have a seapop. Oh, I'll tell you that story

1043
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 4: another time. But yeah, Oh, it's just so relaxing. It's

1044
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 4: just I'm at ease and I don't know what's going on.

1045
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 4: It's gone gone. But if people are really people still

1046
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 4: afraid of going to the dentist, they've got all the

1047
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 4: good drugs.

1048
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: They've got. Why would why would you be afraid of going?

1049
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense to me.

1050
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 4: I just I I not wanting to go, not enjoying

1051
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 4: it is different than fear, and I wonder if that's

1052
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 4: how they really meant it. Seventy three percent, it seems

1053
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 4: like a high number, but it's a greater number that

1054
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 4: is getting their information stolen online because there's a file

1055
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 4: with your name on it. It's got everything. It's got all

1056
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 4: your home information, it's got all your connection contact information,

1057
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 4: it's got your medical conditions, it has your kids' names,

1058
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 4: it has your kids' names in this whole concept. What's

1059
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 4: going on here is with the data brokers. This is

1060
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: a multi billion dollar industry, and what they're able to

1061
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 4: do is mass all this information on you and then

1062
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 4: they're able to accept a credit card and sell your information.

1063
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 4: Your file is collected and it's packaged and it's sold

1064
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 4: and it's all legal, which is insane. Every scam, every

1065
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 4: fishing text, you know those texts where people are saying

1066
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 4: things are like how do they know that about me?

1067
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 4: How do they know that about my family?

1068
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone paid for your file.

1069
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 4: This costs American taxpayers twenty billion dollars plus each and

1070
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,879
Speaker 4: every year. Because the scammers not lucky. They're getting prepared.

1071
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 4: You can do something about this. You can protect yourself.

1072
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 4: Do what I did. Use in cognity I ncog ni,

1073
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 4: in cogni dot com. They are the ones who go

1074
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 4: broker by broker and they force each one to delete

1075
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 4: your file. You know those opt out forms they bury

1076
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 4: and you can never find them, and Cogni finds those

1077
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 4: and when your data tries to creep back boom, there's

1078
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 4: incognity to wipe it again. Go to incognit dot com

1079
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 4: slash cats. That's the website I ncog n I and

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01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,479
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Speaker 4: This is Tony Katz today taking the casket of the

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Speaker 4: late Center Lindsey Graham into the National Cathedral, which if

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Speaker 4: you've never been, is an absolutely, absolutely beautiful, beautiful building.

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, This the funeral for the Senator,

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Speaker 4: you have a who's who of Washington that is inside

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Speaker 4: the full cabinet? Is is there? Justice Brett Kavanaugh is

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Speaker 4: in attendance behind him the CIA director. Earlier I was sorry,

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Speaker 4: I thought it was the D and I, but the

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Speaker 4: CIA Director John Ratcliffe behind him is the Prime Minister

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Speaker 4: of Israel, Benjamin at Yahoo. All their inattendance for the

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Speaker 4: funeral of Lindsay Graham a fair amount of pomp and

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Speaker 4: circumstance for the senator here. No, it is not what

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Speaker 4: every senator will receive on their death. And I don't

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Speaker 4: think there's anything wrong with anybody saying I like this

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Speaker 4: or I didn't like that. I say it. It's absolutely fine,

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Speaker 4: absolutely fine. But the funeral will take place, and well

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Speaker 4: back to work.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's going to have to go.

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Speaker 4: And the President moving forward on saying we not only

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Speaker 4: have to pass the Save Act, but we shouldn't even

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Speaker 4: be taking the recess. I favor this on every level.

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Speaker 4: No recess. Do the work, that's what's necessary, and the

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Speaker 4: Save Act must be passed a lot more so. To

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Speaker 4: get to find everything at Tony kots dot com. This

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Speaker 4: is Tony Kotts Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from ball Hertbeiner and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 4: So the futures today when we talk about the market started,

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Speaker 4: huge up for the Dow and massive down for the Nasdaq,

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Speaker 4: and then you took a look at things as as

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Speaker 4: the market day started, it was huge up for the

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Speaker 4: Dow and massive down for the Nasdack. You're like, I

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Speaker 4: don't I don't quite understand what's going on here. I

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Speaker 4: don't know how this is supposed to work. I'm not

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Speaker 4: even sure how people see this economy right now. And

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Speaker 4: you see, oil prices had moved back up to one

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Speaker 4: hundred dollars a barrel on the Brent crude and now

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Speaker 4: back down to eighty dollars because Trump said for two

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Speaker 4: days we're not going to fire any weapons at him,

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Speaker 4: and that was enough. I think that the market is

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Speaker 4: a silly place, and I think that the market, like you,

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Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily represent Midwest mainstream for what is it that.

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Speaker 3: We can learn? What is it that it's trying to

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Speaker 3: tell us right now?

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Speaker 4: Especially, I mean we talk about the Dow and the

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Speaker 4: overall and the Nasdaq and the overall, and what about

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Speaker 4: things like SpaceX which opened up at one hundred and

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Speaker 4: thirty five dollars a share. This is Elon Musk's company.

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Speaker 4: It's skyrockets to two hundred, then it falls down to

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Speaker 4: one hundred and ten. This normal for an IPO or

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Speaker 4: is there something else at play? Is there an opportunity

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Speaker 4: for all of us? Or is there something to learn?

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Will joins us economist at the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: It's really fascinating that we see the Dow moving the

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Speaker 4: way it is and the NASDAC getting punched in the throat.

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Speaker 4: And this is the second week in a row where

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Speaker 4: we're hearing about the world of chips and chip manufacturers,

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Speaker 4: whether we're talking.

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Speaker 3: About in Nvidia or AMD, Micron, etc.

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Speaker 4: All taking the hits, which is insane because all the

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Speaker 4: AI people need the chips in order to have the

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Speaker 4: data centers in order to push their AI, which is

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Speaker 4: getting so much money that Tesla and Google both posted

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Speaker 4: losses because all their money is going into AI investment.

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Speaker 4: Walk us through a path, or down a path, or

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Speaker 4: through a garden. There are paths and there are gardens.

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Speaker 4: I have amazes.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where we are.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Mattweill economists, What the hell are we looking at.

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Speaker 14: I am happy to explain it to everyone, and it's

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Speaker 14: not that complicated. There is no panic. Everyone should relax.

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Speaker 14: This is what we would typically call a sector rotation.

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Speaker 14: The market is trying to figure it out. AI is here,

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Speaker 14: it's producing efficiency, the economy is growing, chip stocks are

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Speaker 14: really good. AI is good. Is simply trying to figure

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Speaker 14: out the right price. The growth is going to be.

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Speaker 14: There is going to be this month, next month, next year,

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Speaker 14: five years. So the market is simply reevaluating and repricing

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Speaker 14: all this AI in tech news. That's not a problem.

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Speaker 14: It's so unknown. What we do know it's going to

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Speaker 14: be phenomenal. I mean, Meta this week they borrowed twelve

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Speaker 14: and a half billion dollars at a higher interest rate

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Speaker 14: to fund data centers. There's no stopping it. They're willing

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Speaker 14: to pay a very high interest rate to build more

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Speaker 14: data centers. So everything's okay here. You know, Apple stock

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Speaker 14: is up now. It's interesting. Apple is not an AI

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Speaker 14: or innovation company right now. Their stock is up because

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Speaker 14: of sales. Now we're going to find out Thursday, because Thursday,

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Speaker 14: both Amazon and Apple announced their own earnings. Wednesday, Meta

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Speaker 14: and Microsoft report are earnings. So we're gonna have a

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Speaker 14: lot of tech news this week. But everyone's this is fine.

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Speaker 14: This try to just figure it out.

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Speaker 4: So the figuring out is one thing. The figuring out

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Speaker 4: while you play with people's four O, one k's is another.

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Speaker 4: And the final aspect of this is that figuring out

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Speaker 4: would be a lot easier if it played a normal

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Speaker 4: part in understanding, if things flowed by a normal, normal rhythm.

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Speaker 4: We take a look at oil prices. For example, you're

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Speaker 4: telling me three days of not firing missiles can bring

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Speaker 4: down oil prices twenty dollars a barrel, And if we

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Speaker 4: look at it, it wasn't actually twenty dollars bals twenty

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Speaker 4: dollars from the high. But things have already come down

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Speaker 4: while we were firing missiles. So what we see is,

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Speaker 4: you know, not a question to panic. It's a question

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Speaker 4: of trying to comprehend what it is that those who

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Speaker 4: make the market are trying to say. What is it

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Speaker 4: that they look at? So let's move move over to

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Speaker 4: oil for a second. What do you see in this sector?

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Speaker 4: What is it that you're seeing from just the last week.

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Speaker 14: Well, you and I, because I think we're on the

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Speaker 14: same page on Iran. We're not going to like what

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Speaker 14: the market is saying. The market is saying stop the war.

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Speaker 14: They don't even care if Iran has a nuclear missile.

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Speaker 14: They don't care if Iran runs and controls the Straits.

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Speaker 14: The market doesn't care. The market doesn't want the war.

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Speaker 14: You and I want the regime gone, but that's not

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Speaker 14: what the market wants. The market wants stability. They don't

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Speaker 14: want to keep looking to the White House and looking

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Speaker 14: to the Middle East to determine where the market should go.

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Speaker 14: So that's what the oil picture is. The oil is

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Speaker 14: simply a reaction to what's happening in politics. And you've

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Speaker 14: heard me say a million times I wish politics would

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Speaker 14: get out of the picture. But you mentioned something a

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Speaker 14: moment ago about watching your four to oh one k

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Speaker 14: go up and down. I have advice. This is stock

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Speaker 14: advice that we're never supposed to give to anybody. Don't

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Speaker 14: watch it. You should not be investing in individual stocks

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Speaker 14: as the average investor. Individual stock picking is a tough

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Speaker 14: game and people don't win at it. You should be

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Speaker 14: a well diversified portfolio. And markets go up, markets go down,

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Speaker 14: Just relax and let them move that's what's going on now.

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Speaker 14: If you want to get into a specific stock that

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Speaker 14: I think is fascinating right now, and that's going to

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Speaker 14: be SpaceX and what's happening with them. But as far

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Speaker 14: as the market goes, relax everybody. It's going to fluctuate,

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Speaker 14: but long term it's going to do amazing.

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Speaker 4: I have got questions about SpaceX, and full disclosure, I

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Speaker 4: do not own SpaceX, but it has been a conversation

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Speaker 4: talking to doctor Matt Will, economist at the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: This sector rotation that you talk about as we go

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Speaker 4: back to the tech market, is this about? This isn't,

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Speaker 4: as you say, a rejection of AI. This is about

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Speaker 4: repricing of AI. And it is interesting that the chip

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Speaker 4: manufacturers are taking the hit.

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Speaker 3: So what do you mean by repricing?

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Speaker 14: Well, the market is simply what we call the present

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Speaker 14: value of future cash flows, and it's trying to forecast

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Speaker 14: future cash flows. But think about it, the future is

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Speaker 14: one year, five year, ten years, one. In fact, I've

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Speaker 14: done a lot of research on this. One half of

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Speaker 14: one percent change in your growth forecast can change your

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Speaker 14: stock price today by twenty percent. So it's simply the

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Speaker 14: unknown of the future. We don't know when it's going

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Speaker 14: to be hugely profitable. No one disagrees it's going to

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Speaker 14: be profitable. But the difficulty is when will it become profitable?

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Speaker 14: When will it produce all these returns. We're seeing it now,

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Speaker 14: We're seeing it right now. We see a lot of

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Speaker 14: these companies growing from it. I mean you just look

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Speaker 14: at things like, you know, Chili's, I mean, Chili's is

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Speaker 14: growing by phenomenal amounts. Coca Cola announced incredible earnings this week.

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Speaker 14: Everything is doing very well. It's just how well it's

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Speaker 14: going to grow it seven percent or nine percent. That

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Speaker 14: difference has a huge impact on the value of your

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Speaker 14: stock and the value of your portfolio. So it's just

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Speaker 14: the it's just the unknown, Tony. That's really all. What's

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Speaker 14: going on here?

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Speaker 4: Where else is this happening? You know, if we take

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Speaker 4: a look at the tech sector, where else can you

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Speaker 4: point to out I'm pointing to for examples. You brought

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Speaker 4: up the chip stocks, the NVIDIAs of the world. Where

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Speaker 4: else within the tech sector is this this happening? That

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Speaker 4: there is rethink, there's a reallocation of dollars, there's there's

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Speaker 4: a different level of planning going on. Where else can

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Speaker 4: we point to in the tech sector to see this?

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Speaker 14: Well, first of all, I have a have a problem

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Speaker 14: with the tech sector. Everything is technowaty what is in tech?

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Speaker 14: I mean you go through you know, you drive through

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Speaker 14: the fast food place. You're using your app to order

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Speaker 14: your food before you get to the fast food joint.

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Speaker 4: The food place is the food place. No one thinks

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Speaker 4: of McDonald's as a tech sector. You know what, I

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Speaker 4: try not to hurt me, sir. I'm I'm trying. I'm

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Speaker 4: doing my best, and you don't make my life difficult

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Speaker 4: for a second.

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Speaker 14: Okay, Let let let's merge tech with financial services, so

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Speaker 14: fintech as we call it. Yes, vis laid off twenty

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Speaker 14: six hundred people. Twenty six hundred people, they announce they're

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Speaker 14: laying off. Now you're thinking, oh, this is a disaster.

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Speaker 14: It's AI related, it's AI efficiencies. And when we look

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Speaker 14: at the unemployment report, we see, oh, the unemployment report

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Speaker 14: is absorbing this pretty well. And then now let's flip

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Speaker 14: the coin. So Visa lays off twenty six hundred people. PayPal,

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Speaker 14: which is in the fintech.

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Speaker 4: Business as well.

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Speaker 14: I mean, they're the ultimate fintech company. By the way,

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Speaker 14: another Elon Musk started company. They're looking to buy someone.

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Speaker 14: They're so successful. So the fintech in PayPal says, I'm

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Speaker 14: going to buy someone. The fintech in Visa is saying,

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Speaker 14: we're cutting jobs, but AI is improving our business. So

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Speaker 14: this tech is just touching everywhere and it's disrupting. It's

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Speaker 14: disrupting Visa, which is a big dog in credit. It's

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Speaker 14: disrupting PayPal, which was actually pulling back. Now they're coming forward.

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Speaker 14: I love this disruption. The disruption is confusing people good.

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Speaker 4: Does the disruption lead to more problems on Midwest main

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Speaker 4: Street or is it really in its own world and

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Speaker 4: not connected to things that Midwest deals with. Main Street

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01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 4: deals with, like like tariffs and insurance pricing, et cetera.

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Speaker 14: Well, if people can stay off their social media and

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Speaker 14: their computer, then yeah, it's gonna not affect them as much.

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Speaker 14: Because let's go back to the Chili's example. You know,

1295
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Speaker 14: Chili's revenue is up twenty two percent over two years.

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Speaker 14: That's main Street. People are going out to eat at

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Speaker 14: the local restaurant. That's a good thing that's not being

1298
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 14: impacted by the disruption. You know, you and I talk

1299
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 14: about this all the time. How is that people are

1300
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 14: still going out to eat all the time if they've

1301
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 14: got affordability issues. It's hard to get into a restaurant

1302
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 14: in some places where we live. So I'm kind of,

1303
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 14: you know, saying main street. Main Street's also confused affordability

1304
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 14: is an issue. Yet they're still behaving like it's not.

1305
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 4: Talking to doctor Matt Will, economists at the University of Indianapolis.

1306
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 4: Now let's move over to SpaceX. Full disclosure, I do

1307
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 4: not own SpaceX. I think I've said this before. I

1308
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 4: like to be very very clear. I thought about it

1309
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 4: when it opened, I thought about it at that open price,

1310
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 4: and every bit of good advice that I got. And remember,

1311
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 4: I'm not a financial planner. Never listened to me about

1312
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 4: your market. Never listen to me about your investments, no, no, no, no, no.

1313
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 4: Was These things usually pop and then fall, and that's

1314
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 4: exactly what happened. We're talking about something a rose to

1315
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 4: a little over two hundred and then fell to about

1316
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 4: one hundred and six. Who knows where it's at right now,

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01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 4: and who knows what's of course going to happen. But

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Speaker 4: I had said, you know, this thing gets down to

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01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 4: one hundred and ten. I'm like, all right, maybe I'll

1320
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Speaker 4: do that and I'll buy some shares. A full disclosure

1321
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 4: as of this conversation right now, I have not yet.

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01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 4: I'm always very honest about these things. But rather the

1323
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 4: question about SpaceX, because nothing has had more hype before

1324
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 4: it started, because of Elon Musk, because we're talking about

1325
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 4: space travel other technological advances. Is SpaceX a good indicator

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01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 4: for people regarding our market strength or market direction.

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Speaker 14: I don't think it's a good indicator of market strength

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01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 14: or direction, but I think it's a good indicator of

1329
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 14: the tech sector we were just talking about. You know,

1330
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,799
Speaker 14: I always say be well diversified, don't play individual stocks

1331
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 14: because you're not an expert at valuing these things. Well,

1332
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 14: let me tell you I'm an expert at valuing these things.

1333
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,879
Speaker 14: And I will say right now what I told everyone

1334
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 14: that I could get in touch with. If you had

1335
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 14: a chance to get in on the IPO at one

1336
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 14: hundred and thirty five dollars, you should have done it.

1337
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 14: You should have jumped in, and then you should bail

1338
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 14: within the first forty eight hours. That's what the history shows.

1339
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 14: And if you'd have done that, anybody out there they'd

1340
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 14: have got in at one thirty five, they'd have gotten

1341
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 14: out at about one seventy, and they'd have made quite

1342
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 14: a bit of money. Now, where's it at now? Again,

1343
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 14: if I were telling people how to invest in, if

1344
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,759
Speaker 14: they knew how to price stocks, and I'm guessing almost

1345
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 14: nobody listening to your show is an expert at this

1346
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 14: SpaceX right now, according to Bloomberg consensus is undervalued. If

1347
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 14: I look at the list. Now, look at the list

1348
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 14: right now. Morgan Stanley projects they're going to be this

1349
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 14: is within a year at three hundred. RBC Capital projects

1350
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 14: two twenty five. Raymond James, this is insane. They project

1351
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 14: eight hundred. Even Goldman Sachs, the big dog in the world,

1352
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 14: they project two h five.

1353
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 3: Raymond James predicts eight hundred.

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Speaker 14: I think that analyst should be fired. I don't go

1355
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 14: that far, but then I heard the interview. They believe,

1356
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 14: and I'm not opposed to this, that SpaceX may be

1357
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 14: the most consequential company of our lifetime, even more than Nvidia.

1358
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 14: This is a company that is going out and saving

1359
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 14: people from the space station. They're going to deliver people

1360
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 14: to Mars. They're the ones launching all the satellites. This

1361
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 14: is hard to in fathom the impact they're going to have. Now,

1362
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 14: Raymond James a little bit over the top, but I

1363
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 14: can't disagree with the sentiment.

1364
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I will tell you that I don't

1365
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 4: own Nvidia stock either in terms of essay a sepastock.

1366
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 4: I don't believe I own it in any fund. Again

1367
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 4: with the full disclosure, but it's hard to think of

1368
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 4: something more tangibly part of life and part of being

1369
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 4: changing in video over SpaceX every day of the week

1370
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 4: and twice on Sunday. So again it's playing into.

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Speaker 3: The future here.

1372
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 4: But does this lead to us saying that people are

1373
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 4: so busy looking for the quick fix, the quick dollar

1374
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 4: that the days of just investing in the basics and

1375
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 4: getting your your six eight nine percent return, which is

1376
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 4: all nice stuff, that's over. It's it's it's about the flash.

1377
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 4: The flash is necessary to drive the rest of the market.

1378
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 14: No, no, no, We've always looked for the flash. We

1379
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 14: always talk about the flash. If it bleeds, it leads,

1380
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 14: if it flashes, we talk about it. We don't talk

1381
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 14: about those boring things like grocery stores and restaurants and

1382
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 14: making ballpoint pins and making the you know little aired things,

1383
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 14: and you know writing devices. This is you know, I

1384
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 14: can tell you one of the companies I invest in.

1385
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 14: We own the largest maker of ballpoint pins in North America.

1386
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 14: It's a great investment.

1387
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 4: It is so boring. It is so boring. By the way,

1388
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 4: the Uniball two oh seven bold this is this is

1389
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 4: what I write with. I do not own any part

1390
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 4: of the stock whatsoever, but it is the greatest pen.

1391
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 4: You listen, we can play mom blancs so we could

1392
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 4: do all the things I'm telling you just in a look. Clickie, clickie,

1393
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 4: this is this is it right here. I do know

1394
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 4: when we go back to SpaceX and this story got

1395
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 4: reported and we were talking before we came on and

1396
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: you brought it up. You take a look at the

1397
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 4: members of Congress who've been buying SpaceX stock, do we

1398
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 4: I'm all about getting ending the insider trading stuff. I mean,

1399
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 4: I am all there for it, are are we? Is

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01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 4: this an example of follow congressional leaders? Or is this

1401
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 4: an example of man, you really shouldn't let these people

1402
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 4: trade it all.

1403
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 14: By the way, if you follow your congressional leaders, by

1404
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 14: the time you hear about it, it's too late.

1405
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1406
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 14: Good point solid there, And here's what I love. Five

1407
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,879
Speaker 14: of the six people. Okay, these people that bought SpaceX,

1408
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 14: they didn't buy it to our knowledge. We don't know

1409
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 14: for sure. We don't think they got it at the

1410
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 14: IPO price. It looks like they may have bought it

1411
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 14: during the first week between June twelfth and eighteenth. Here's

1412
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 14: what I love. If they bought it between the twelfth

1413
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 14: and the eighteenth, thing they owned it today, They've lost money. Good,

1414
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 14: they deserve to lose money for that. I'm happy to

1415
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 14: hear that. Since five of the six of them oversee

1416
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 14: SpaceX contracts.

1417
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 4: Good, they oversee SpaceX contracts five of the six yes, yeah,

1418
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:52,759
Speaker 4: you see. You see this is what gets people crazy.

1419
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 4: So I knew they had bought the stock. I did

1420
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 4: not know you're talking about as members of Congress overseeing contracts.

1421
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 14: Well, okay, the reporting is that either the yes, I

1422
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 14: mean because it's on their subcommittee or their committee.

1423
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1424
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 14: But the funny part is we don't know exactly who

1425
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 14: bought it because the reports are either them or members

1426
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 14: of their immediate family. That's how it has to be reported.

1427
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 14: From the Stock Act of twenty twelve, they're not banned

1428
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 14: from buying it. That's actually something that's proposed this year,

1429
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 14: the Stop Trading Act, which isn't passed yet. All they

1430
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 14: have to do is report it now. So yeah, if

1431
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 14: they make money on insider trading, they just have to

1432
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 14: tell us now. They can't do it on inside secret information.

1433
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 14: That's against the law. We'll go ahead and prove that

1434
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 14: they had secret inside information. They investigate themselves.

1435
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 4: Doctor Matt Will coming out swinging economists, University of Indianapolis.

1436
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 4: I appreciate you taking the time to be with us.

1437
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 4: We've got more to get to keep it here, guys,

1438
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 4: this is Tony Kats today. I think it's okay to

1439
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 4: start taking vets on when John Fetterman leaves the Democratic Party.

1440
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, he's not a Republican.

1441
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 4: I have said clearly that the Center from pennsylvani is

1442
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 4: not joining the Republican Party. There's just no way the

1443
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 4: man is not a Republican. Tony Katz Tony Katz today

1444
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:11,440
Speaker 4: a pleasure, guys. He's sure his buddy heck not a conservative.

1445
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 3: But you hear talk like this.

1446
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 4: He was on CNBC with Joe Kernan there on the

1447
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 4: show Squawkbox in the morning, and what he says about

1448
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 4: the Democrat running for Senate in Michigan. Abdul al said,

1449
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 4: I mean this is this is amazing.

1450
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I was never I never worked out

1451
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 15: in a male modeling you know. Yeah, I mean, you know,

1452
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 15: we could call me Senator Shrek whatever. But this guy

1453
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 15: is really the Pontiac Platiner, and now he's really running

1454
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 15: to be the head of our emerging pro humas wing

1455
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 15: here in the party.

1456
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 4: The Pontiac Platner, Pontiac Michigan. Holy mackerel. Oh yeah, someone

1457
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 4: called him Shrek, that's right. And he's like, eh, I'm

1458
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 4: male modeling career didn't work out. But this guy is

1459
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 4: still a problem. He is legit unflappable on these things. No,

1460
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,879
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong. I still don't like the hoodies.

1461
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 4: I want suits, but all the respects in the world.

1462
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 4: And yeah, el said, it is not going well, and

1463
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 4: I only hope it continues to not go well for

1464
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:25,759
Speaker 4: this guy. Of course, he is connected, fully, completely totally

1465
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 4: with the Islamists, in every single way connected with the

1466
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 4: Islamist It's undeniable.

1467
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 3: There's a poll.

1468
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 4: Data for Progress that has him up thirteen points. I

1469
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 4: think Data for Progress is a Democrat leaning outfit. So

1470
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 4: Lord only knows how they paid for this. I had

1471
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 4: fifty four Stevens forty one. This is in the primary,

1472
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,839
Speaker 4: but he's running against Congresswoman Haley Stevens.

1473
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 3: You've got the primary in a couple of days. We're

1474
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 3: all going to be.

1475
01:30:55,160 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 4: Watching Pontiac Platinum, Bravo. Truly, John Betterman, well played. This

1476
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 4: is Tony Katz today. Last week I made a very

1477
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 4: basic statement, Sophie Cunningham, Indiana fever WNBA should not be

1478
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 4: put on a pedestal. Sophie Cunningham, Indiana fever WNBA should

1479
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 4: not be vilified. She said something normal. Boys are not girls.

1480
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,679
Speaker 4: Girls are not boys, and girls should be protected in sports.

1481
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 4: It is the most normal, basic thing one could say,

1482
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 4: ranking up there with nice weather we're having and hey,

1483
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 4: have you lost weight?

1484
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 3: These are basic, normal things.

1485
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:53,839
Speaker 4: There's nothing spectacular or interesting or brave about it. Normal, normal, normal,

1486
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony kats today, Good to be here, good

1487
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 4: to be with you.

1488
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 3: But somehow everybody has decided.

1489
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 4: That it needs to be dissected, it needs to be

1490
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 4: ripped apart. She needs to be attacked for it, she

1491
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 4: needs to be treated like a.

1492
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 3: God for it. That's what the White House did.

1493
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:21,919
Speaker 4: The White House like, we support Sophie Cunningham's comments. Why why, why,

1494
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 4: what are you doing? Why are you putting her in

1495
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 4: that position?

1496
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 11: Oh?

1497
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 4: Look at these Republicans senators supporting Sophie Cunningham. You why

1498
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 4: what are you doing? She said something normal and really

1499
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 4: not only is it normal, Like it should be such

1500
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,759
Speaker 4: a no brainer thing to say boys are not girls

1501
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 4: and boys are not being girls sports. It's such a

1502
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:50,719
Speaker 4: basic truism that it shouldn't require any other talk.

1503
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 3: And I didn't want this for Sophie Cunningham. I didn't.

1504
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 3: I didn't want her to have to deal with the

1505
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 3: with the nonsense.

1506
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 4: But you take a look at the articles, Sophie Cunningham

1507
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,560
Speaker 4: inspires high school athletes to speak out on fairness and

1508
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 4: women's sports. With all due respect to Sophie Cunningham, you

1509
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 4: already had track athletes girls in Connecticut speaking out, ensuing.

1510
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,919
Speaker 4: You already had people speaking out all across the country.

1511
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 4: She's inspiring people. Well, I don't know, maybe that's maybe

1512
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 4: that's a good thing. Maybe I shouldn't be knocking that,

1513
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 4: but it seems to me that this is Fox News

1514
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:30,560
Speaker 4: is They had the headline just, you know, trying to

1515
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 4: grab onto something. Then you have this headline, Sophie Cunningham

1516
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 4: and West Wilson split on transgender athletes and girls' sports

1517
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 4: despite podcast partnership.

1518
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know who really West Wilson was.

1519
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 4: I didn't realize he was the guy who does the partnership. Also,

1520
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 4: there's no such thing as when we talk about transgender athletes.

1521
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 4: You're talking about men and women's sports. So just say

1522
01:33:55,920 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 4: those words again. Normal is the And people have been

1523
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 4: pushing back on me for utilizing the word normal. If

1524
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 4: you are a boy and you think you're a girl,

1525
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 4: if you're a man you think you're a woman, or

1526
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 4: vice versa, that is not normal.

1527
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 3: That is a thing.

1528
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 4: That is something that.

1529
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 3: You need to work on, help to get.

1530
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 4: I don't have any anger. I'm not angry with you.

1531
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 4: I don't think you should be vilified. I don't think

1532
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 4: you should be attacked. I have a long record of

1533
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 4: this conversation, by the way, but you clearly need help.

1534
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 4: I'm not going to buy into it. I'm not going

1535
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 4: to play into it. It's not normal and you should

1536
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 4: get some help. It is not okay to think if

1537
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 4: you are a man, you are a woman. It is

1538
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 4: not okay to think, you know what I can do.

1539
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 4: I can simply remove my genitals and that'll make everything better.

1540
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 4: That's not a normal thing to do.

1541
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 3: It's not.

1542
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 4: And that's why when I take a look at Minnesota

1543
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,799
Speaker 4: and they've led the University of Minnesota has created these dolls.

1544
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 4: It to help four year olds understand gender. A four

1545
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 4: year old is now led to believe that you can

1546
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 4: remove your genitals and it's normal. You know what they

1547
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 4: haven't discussed. When the four year old gets this doll

1548
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,560
Speaker 4: in the genitals, you can move them like it's a

1549
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:12,799
Speaker 4: mister potato head, and they decide, you know what, gonna

1550
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 4: remove my own genitals. Now you say to me, Tony,

1551
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 4: that will never happen. That never happened from a mister

1552
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 4: potato head. Well, that was also a giant potato and

1553
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 4: they didn't think of themselves as a potato. But this

1554
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 4: is a doll of a person, and I'm hoping it

1555
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 4: never happens, and I will not be surprised the day

1556
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 4: that it does. But if you want to talk about

1557
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 4: confusing children and the goal being to mutilate those children,

1558
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 4: because I think the people who mutilate the children actually

1559
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 4: they get off on it. That is my take. They

1560
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 4: have got their own twisted sickness. They have their own

1561
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 4: mental illness. The problem is they want to be able

1562
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 4: to abuse others with their mental illness. And man, you

1563
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 4: should go to jail for that. But a boy thinks

1564
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 4: he's a girl who has a mental illness and something

1565
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 4: we can help with. It is something we can help with.

1566
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 4: And I do always say I do talk about children.

1567
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 4: I rarely talk about adults. I simply say that a

1568
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 4: man can't say they are a women in competing in

1569
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 4: women's sports.

1570
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 3: No, the answer is no.

1571
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 4: You made a decision, and that decision is based on

1572
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 4: milton mental illness. And I'm talking about the American Psychiatric Association.

1573
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the diagnostic manual, the DSM five. It's

1574
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 4: written right there, gender dysphoria. I'm not making anything up,

1575
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 4: but your decisions do not get to play on other

1576
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 4: people's decisions, which is where I consistently come down on this.

1577
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,799
Speaker 4: You don't get to do that. You made a decision

1578
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 4: so other people have to change their lives.

1579
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 3: Screw off.

1580
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 4: That is just wrong, and it's wrong wrong to take

1581
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:53,839
Speaker 4: Sophie Cunningham here and rip her asunder on all these issues.

1582
01:36:55,320 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 4: But that's what we're seeing people doing exactly what I

1583
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 4: didn't want to have happened for something Cunningham taking her

1584
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,839
Speaker 4: comments and saying, how do I use these for my purpose,

1585
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 4: for my advantage. And so there's this two statements where

1586
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 4: she said, quote, I got a lot of negative feedback

1587
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 4: about me hitting trans and I'm like, I never once

1588
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 4: said that. I think that I'm here to extend love,

1589
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 4: but I also think what that love is truth, being honest,

1590
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 4: and I want to protect young girls in a locker

1591
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 4: room or young girls in sport who shouldn't have to

1592
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 4: go against biological men. Right, So that was the comment

1593
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,679
Speaker 4: that had some people going after and then she said,

1594
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 4: I said what I said. I think it's kind of

1595
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 4: common sense, and I think I'll always believe in that.

1596
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 4: I think it's really important to protect children and that

1597
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 4: little girls who are also involved in that category. And

1598
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 4: so I'll stand on what I said and I'll always

1599
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 4: believe that. And I caught this a story just some

1600
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 4: of the responses on zero hedge good site zero hedge

1601
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 4: dot com, and he writes rule number one when dealing

1602
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 4: with the political left, never apologize to the political left.

1603
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 4: It won't shut them up. They will smell blood in

1604
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 4: the water and attack even more aggressively. Cunningham seems to

1605
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 4: understand this rule well. Now I do not know as

1606
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 4: she does or she doesn't, but that was a very

1607
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 4: very astute point and worthy of noting because we can

1608
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 4: apply this everywhere. Never ever apologize for being normal and

1609
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 4: saying normal things and kind of demanding that we support

1610
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 4: normal stuff.

1611
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,440
Speaker 3: We don't be mutilate children. I don't have to apologize

1612
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 3: to the.

1613
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 4: Person screaming if you don't allow them to change their

1614
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 4: gender by mutilating them, they'll kill themselves, they'll harm themselves.

1615
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 4: I don't have to apologize for my knowledge that that

1616
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 4: is wrong your gender and not being able to do this.

1617
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 4: Not being able to do that has nothing to do

1618
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 4: with happiness. Happiness comes from inside. It doesn't come from

1619
01:38:56,640 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 4: the other things. It doesn't. Oh, sure, there's somebody who's

1620
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 4: had a notes job in their life and been like,

1621
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 4: you know what, this is so much better. I am

1622
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 4: so much happier I did this. It wasn't changing who

1623
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 4: they were fundamentally as a person. It wasn't lying about

1624
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 4: who they are, and it wasn't demanding that other people

1625
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 4: lie you want everybody to play into somebody else's fantasy.

1626
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 4: That's that is very ugly, that is very violent, violent stuff.

1627
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 4: I'm not going to apologize for saying no, I want

1628
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 4: no part of that. I'm not going to apologize for

1629
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 4: saying sorry, I'm not playing the gender game with you.

1630
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no no no no no, not

1631
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 4: doing it, not having any part of it. The answer

1632
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 4: is no, you don't apologize. Am I going to apologize

1633
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 4: for noting that Islam needs to go through a reformation

1634
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 4: and Muslims need to lead this charge. And when you

1635
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 4: see Muslims stabbing people in Paris, running people over in Berlin,

1636
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 4: why aren't they speaking up by the hundreds of thousands

1637
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 4: to say this is wrong? Silence, total silence, absolute silence.

1638
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 3: Where is the statement to say this is wrong?

1639
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 4: And when some people have said, this is simply not

1640
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 4: a religion, this is a political system and it is

1641
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 4: abusive and oppressive. Iron here Clee lives every day of

1642
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 4: her life under threat. Who's the guy who wrote the

1643
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 4: Satanic verses? I can picture them. Who's the guy who

1644
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 4: wrote the Satanic verses? Why can't I remember his name?

1645
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 4: Solomon Rushti? I could picture the dude, and I could

1646
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,719
Speaker 4: not remember his name that I went full Joe Biden

1647
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 4: right there, Good lord, did you know, by the way,

1648
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 4: that Solomon Rushti was married to Padma lashk Lakshmi. That

1649
01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:03,640
Speaker 4: is very impressive, impressive, very very very very impressive, pad Melakshmi.

1650
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 4: That's a bra vissimo. Well done and well played. Right there,

1651
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 4: saw Iimon Rushti. That guy lives under threat. It happens

1652
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 4: time and again and again and again. Are we not

1653
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 4: supposed to notice that when a guy goes about stabbing

1654
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 4: only women and then when confronted and brought to the ground,

1655
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 4: the knives removed from him. Well, Allah commands me to that.

1656
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:32,959
Speaker 3: That's a problem.

1657
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 4: That is not something we have to accept that when

1658
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 4: people say to me, oh, you're justin islamophobe, Now, I'm

1659
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 4: not paying attention to that. We're not gonna have that.

1660
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 3: We've got an.

1661
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 4: Issue and normal people know you don't go around stabbing women.

1662
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 4: And if your religion commands you to, your religion's a

1663
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 4: real problem. Now. The real problem here is that Islam

1664
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 4: is not a religion. Don't get upset with me. I

1665
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 4: can quote emams who say that it is a political

1666
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 4: system that covers every aspect of life. And they don't

1667
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 4: believe that we should have a constitution. They don't believe

1668
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:10,560
Speaker 4: in Western civilization. Everything should be run by the Sharia.

1669
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 4: That's them, And people get upset with me for noticing

1670
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 4: I can't worry about those things. The reformation has to

1671
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:23,640
Speaker 4: come from inside the house. They have to make the changes,

1672
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:26,839
Speaker 4: and we sure as hell aren't going to get abused

1673
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 4: by their lack of changes. We're going to say that's

1674
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 4: not right. We're gonna say that's an issue. We're going

1675
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:35,520
Speaker 4: to say no to that, to this not normal behavior.

1676
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 4: And the not normal behavior isn't you living your life

1677
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 4: according to some code that I may disagree with. It's

1678
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 4: that you thinking I should have to live my life

1679
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 4: by your code and I don't agree with it, and

1680
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 4: you think you can physically assault me, army stab our women,

1681
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 4: and that somehow will give in No. It's the same argument.

1682
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 4: It's the same arguments that I give to these people

1683
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 4: who want to abuse children. And to the point over

1684
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 4: there of the website zero hedge dot com and Sophie Cunningham, Yes,

1685
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 4: never apologize, never, never, never, never apologize. You don't have

1686
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 4: to apologize for being normal. You don't have to apologize

1687
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 4: for stating quite clearly these are not things we do.

1688
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 4: And someone's gonna say, oh, so, Tony, you don't think

1689
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 4: Muslims are normal. I didn't say that. I think if

1690
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 4: you live by a code that says you can stab

1691
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 4: women in public, and you could then say your God

1692
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 4: commanded you to, yeah, that's not normal. We should say

1693
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 4: so that's not normal. We don't put up with that.

1694
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 4: We push back on that, and whatever it takes. Kitton

1695
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 4: society has to push back on that as a whole

1696
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 4: and end that nonsense, just like we have to end

1697
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 4: the nonsense of people thinking they can mutilate children, which

1698
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 4: is why I favor taking the doctors you mutilate children

1699
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 4: and removing their licenses. No, we don't do this. You

1700
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 4: don't get to practice medicine anymore. Absolutely not. Some doctor

1701
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 4: over prescribes a pain pill under the in the eyes

1702
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 4: of the dea, they get persecuted every which way from

1703
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 4: Sunday and very often they lose their ability to make

1704
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 4: a living. Somebody mutilates children, lies to parents, and we

1705
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 4: should what give them another shot? Nah, you go do.

1706
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 3: Something else with your life. We don't do that here.

1707
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 3: We are normal.

1708
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 4: Now. One could argue that there are a lot of

1709
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 4: things that happen within religion that aren't normal your religion,

1710
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 4: my religion, others' religions. This, by the way, was the

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01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 4: entire thesis of Christopher Hitchens with this concept of God

1712
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,799
Speaker 4: is not great, is that religion makes otherwise good people

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01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 4: do absolutely terrible things. And he would talk about things

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01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 4: throughout history, and he would talk about customs and things

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01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:03,640
Speaker 4: like that.

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01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:05,640
Speaker 3: And I've always said about Christopher Hitchins.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he's right, but he's not wrong.

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01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 4: And certainly there is a grappling and a wrestling that

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01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 4: can be done and should be done. But if we

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01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 4: can't clearly say you don't mutilate children, I don't know

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01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 4: what we're supposed to say. We can't say you don't

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01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 4: get to stab women. Don't stab women. Oh you think

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01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 4: you can stab women. We don't say we don't do

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01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 4: that here, Well, then we're lost. We're broken. I can't

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01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 4: solve every problem, but my gosh, we can solve some

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01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 4: of them. And it starts by certainly not apologizing, and

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01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 4: it starts by saying, yeah, that's the normal position, that's

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01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 4: the base position. You don't I to call it normally

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01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 4: you'll call it base. You want to call it the

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01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 4: starting point position. That's the starting point position. And these

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01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:51,639
Speaker 4: other people, they're in some far off world. They're the issue.

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01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 4: They're the problem, not you for starting off with the

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01:45:54,560 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 4: base position. Don't ever apologize for that. This is Tony today.

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Speaker 4: Next steps with Iran. I have absolutely no idea, and

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01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 4: I have to assume that when the President says we're

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01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 4: trying to talk and if we have to hit them

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01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,640
Speaker 4: back harder. What I've learned is that he is at

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01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 4: least willing to hit them. But the idea that there's

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01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 4: any talking and we're working on a deal, there's no

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01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 4: deal to be made. Trump has shown me that he'll

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01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:30,639
Speaker 4: punch them. He has also shown me that he seems

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01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 4: to have an issue with throwing the finishing punch. And

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01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 4: I don't know why that is. Maybe indeed it is

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01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 4: because we don't have the weaponry to do the finishing punch.

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01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 4: Maybe it's because to do the finishing punch you actually

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01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 4: have to do more than just drop the bomb.

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01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 3: You have to do something else. Well, that will go

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01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 3: back to this.

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01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 4: Conversation we've been having about whether or not this is

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01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 4: about siege. Can we just wait them out until they crack.

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01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 4: Why can't that be the case. And if that's the case,

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01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 4: why would we you stop bombing? Or maybe you don't

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01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 4: need to bomb because you're already keeping them from making

1754
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 4: money and you've already got enough damage. I'm willing to

1755
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 4: try and find the way, but this all makes Trump

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01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 4: look really bad and weak.

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Speaker 3: That's not a good place for.

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Speaker 4: Him to be going into a midterm Find everything at

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Speaker 4: Tony Kats dot com tomorrow. Everyone to take care