Speaker 1: And where are we going here? Anything you have a
Speaker 1: chance against us? Mister cowboy gay mother?
Speaker 2: What do you like to do?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Play chess, screw Weller's play chess?
Speaker 2: They give off that. Jonathan Taylor Chuck Cunning gets away,
Speaker 2: walk to the goal line. He's in there, put down
Speaker 2: and d why Jonathan Taylor Wheler finds corn.
Speaker 4: Here's halliburn into the front court, mishandled it against any
Speaker 4: shot he finds it.
Speaker 2: John, I have never been bedroom to be on the
Speaker 2: air with you here in Indianapolis, a place where so
Speaker 2: many of my dreams have come true.
Speaker 4: The Ride with JMV on ninety three five and one
Speaker 4: oh seven five, The fan.
Speaker 2: Hell of a day to get started. On a Monday
Speaker 2: following nineteen, Pa says, I'm good, we're feeling good. Caleb's
Speaker 2: over there, I'm John right here. We have a loaded show.
Speaker 2: So the Colts have released their official depth chart. We
Speaker 2: will gather around this sheet of paper and break it down.
Speaker 2: Actually we won't, but we'll talk about it, I'm sure,
Speaker 2: because we do have football coming up later on this week,
Speaker 2: and we do have a pregame show a football coming
Speaker 2: up later on this week. I believe that a good
Speaker 2: man Eddie Garrison has that up there on the board
Speaker 2: four thirty for the Colts pregame huddle on Thursday about
Speaker 2: that the band's all back together again. That starts coming
Speaker 2: up on Thursday. Joint practices in New England with the
Speaker 2: Patriots will be all about that coming up as well.
Speaker 2: I will continue to talk about this. I was on
Speaker 2: with Tony Katz this morning and mentioned at some point
Speaker 2: and I know that the DJ Montgomery has been here
Speaker 2: and yay, okay, but at some point you are going
Speaker 2: to and whether Alec Pierce returns, when, if and how
Speaker 2: he returns, or that everything is okay with Josh Downs.
Speaker 2: You have to go out and get somebody else of significance.
Speaker 2: The clock is ticking, the numbers are dwindling of those
Speaker 2: that can do anything for It's not like we're tripping
Speaker 2: the light fantastic in general. Here. Here's the other thing.
Speaker 2: There have been so many different times, and this is
Speaker 2: a rarity, so many different times when the media or
Speaker 2: the fan base has been more accurate, more on the ball,
Speaker 2: more understanding of what is necessary. Let's face it, and fans,
Speaker 2: I'll put you in I guess on the media hell
Speaker 2: I don't care if I'm the media or not the media.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fat crap. But let's just go
Speaker 2: ahead and lump us all together. Most of the time,
Speaker 2: we don't know Jack Squatt. Seriously, we don't know Jack Squat.
Speaker 2: We come on here, there he is. We come on here,
Speaker 2: and we have opinions, and we yip yap for three
Speaker 2: hours a day. But yeah, a lot of these things,
Speaker 2: we don't double back and say how wrong we were?
Speaker 2: Oh I do, I guess because you guys call me out.
Speaker 2: I have to own a lot of the things I'm
Speaker 2: wrong about. But so many times over the course of
Speaker 2: the past ten years, which coincides with Chris Ballard being here,
Speaker 2: so many times it seems like that the media and
Speaker 2: the fan base would be out in front of the
Speaker 2: thought process, the direction and the motivation of the team.
Speaker 2: That is pretty bad. And I'm talking about the team,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the organization. I guess when you look
Speaker 2: at that in these terms, when they say, hey, if
Speaker 2: you start taking the advice of those sitting in the stands,
Speaker 2: you're going to find yourself sitting there. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: in this case, there are a lot of examples where
Speaker 2: you could have taken the advice of those sitting in
Speaker 2: the stands and maybe it would have worked out better. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's no prize for that. We're not going to get
Speaker 2: a trophy. I'm not asking for a trophy or any
Speaker 2: admiration whatsoever. But I'm just going to tell you if
Speaker 2: there are reasons as to why this organization finds itself
Speaker 2: rotten with question marks and really a great deal of hope.
Speaker 2: I start basically every segment regarding the Colts when we
Speaker 2: get down into it and lock in and talk it up,
Speaker 2: is hey, I hope everything's going okay. Other teams say, yeah,
Speaker 2: we believe these are things positively and how they're going
Speaker 2: to go here. It's a when I cross my fingers,
Speaker 2: shut my eyes and hold on and hope this cannot
Speaker 2: be another example. It's one of those things where we
Speaker 2: talk about a lot of things as well over my years.
Speaker 2: I started doing it on my own back in two
Speaker 2: thousand and four in November, So you know, I fully
Speaker 2: understand that we talk about a lot of things in
Speaker 2: the preseason where it's absolute waste of time, effort, and
Speaker 2: certainly breath. Nothing ever comes to fruition. There are so
Speaker 2: many different players that we had tremendous dialogue about going
Speaker 2: back all these seasons and it didn't matter one ounce.
Speaker 2: I just happen to think this one is going to matter.
Speaker 2: And this has nothing to do with my feeling or
Speaker 2: guarding Ashton Doolan or Nick Kakeene Westbrook Akeene nothing. I
Speaker 2: didn't know DJ Montgomery. I'm sure he's just here to
Speaker 2: be a camp body. I just know this. At some
Speaker 2: point you have to significantly address the issue. And maybe
Speaker 2: it comes down to the veteran does not want to
Speaker 2: jack around with cam, he doesn't want to go to
Speaker 2: New England, he doesn't want to deal with joint practices.
Speaker 2: Whomever this might be, we're all just thinking is going
Speaker 2: to be a former connection to the head coach. I
Speaker 2: will say this, the head coach seemingly has something going on.
Speaker 2: Everybody loves the play calling ability. Everybody loves the play
Speaker 2: calling ability. Everybody loves the effect he had on Daniel
Speaker 2: Jones a year ago. Those are things that are true.
Speaker 2: But the other things that are also true is the
Speaker 2: fact that this team rarely stays healthy, is capable of
Speaker 2: staying healthy for a while, and then ultimately what happens
Speaker 2: You have to go down a different path or you
Speaker 2: feel like you're unprepared and you're always saying, well, you know,
Speaker 2: we just got bit by the injury bug. At some
Speaker 2: point in time, it's more about you than it is
Speaker 2: about everything else that happens. So I am I am
Speaker 2: a little bit surprised. I shouldn't be, but I am
Speaker 2: a little bit surprised that nothing has come about regarding
Speaker 2: this just yet. That we shall see, But I'm not
Speaker 2: so sure now. If you're asking me about the standouts
Speaker 2: from camp so far, I think the one thing that
Speaker 2: stands out to me. And we'll see when it gets real,
Speaker 2: when you're actually having guys try to track you down
Speaker 2: with bad intentions in mind, that'll change. But for right now,
Speaker 2: you're thinking about an injury and coming back from that,
Speaker 2: and how you've seen Daniel Jones and everybody describes Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2: That's great. On the other hand, I will also tell
Speaker 2: you this, I'm not really too fond of wanting to
Speaker 2: get into at all. For Anthony Richardson, we've known the
Speaker 2: outcome of this for a while, so what did anybody
Speaker 2: think that we were going with it? And it is weird.
Speaker 2: There is such an incredible combination, you know, I've explained
Speaker 2: you had all these cultivated WNBA slash basketball fans because
Speaker 2: the phenomenon of Caitlin Clark. It's not about the game,
Speaker 2: but everybody seemingly has either fallen in love. And then
Speaker 2: there's the other side, can't stand Caitlin Clark one of
Speaker 2: the most polarizing figures anywhere, not just in basketball, sure
Speaker 2: as hell, not just in the WNBA. But it seems
Speaker 2: like what this has done, it's cultivation so many non
Speaker 2: fans or people that didn't know or wouldn't really care
Speaker 2: or never watch basketball, and then it kind of vaulted
Speaker 2: them into they think they're like John Wooden juniors here
Speaker 2: and they really don't know they're asked from nothing. And
Speaker 2: there's a similar point to be made regarding the love
Speaker 2: affair with Anthony Richardson, because you only had a play
Speaker 2: here or there. Everything else was make believe everything else.
Speaker 2: You were thinking, Wow, you know, I'm a gamer, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get on my video game and I'm going
Speaker 2: to create a player and it's going to look exactly
Speaker 2: like this guy. There is no doubt if the looks
Speaker 2: told the story, this dude would be absolutely unstoppable. But
Speaker 2: the people that have held on to this dream that
Speaker 2: is about as far from reality as possible, or all
Speaker 2: those to me is that Generation Z or you Generation
Speaker 2: Z in there, Caleb, Is that you or you even.
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 2: And that's they they see something that I guess they
Speaker 2: have seen in a video game, you know, in the
Speaker 2: midst of their non dating nerdery, that they have cultivated
Speaker 2: into something that is that is not exactly real, and
Speaker 2: they've argued and argued and argued to no avail, and
Speaker 2: ultimately the player has to play, it has to show.
Speaker 2: So there's really not much more to talk about. It
Speaker 2: is just really weird how that was cultivated with Anthony Richardson,
Speaker 2: and how the phenomenon of Caitlin Clark cultivated former non
Speaker 2: basketball fans that all of a sudden became basketball genius.
Speaker 2: And here we are speaking of basketball genius. You guys
Speaker 2: want to get into this weekend of basketball genius. I
Speaker 2: am not, and I should be, because if we ever
Speaker 2: got together, we're very light minded thinkers. Now I'm assuming
Speaker 2: he's much smarter than me, but you know this to
Speaker 2: be true. I've never really been the biggest fan of
Speaker 2: Bill Simmons. And maybe you can find that clip of
Speaker 2: him talking about the WNBA, because a lot of what
Speaker 2: he has said about the WNBA are things that I
Speaker 2: have said about the WNBA. So we're I think we're
Speaker 2: light minded thinkers. He loves pop culture, that is great,
Speaker 2: but he also loves New England, and I think New
Speaker 2: England sucks, and not just the Patriots, but most of it.
Speaker 2: I think it sucks. And we all got kind of
Speaker 2: tired of hearing from Bill Simmons about the Patriots, and Bill,
Speaker 2: you know, when the flat Gate and all this stuff happened,
Speaker 2: we all got sick and tired of hearing that. And
Speaker 2: then he had Bill Simmons and the Celtics, and he
Speaker 2: gets sick and tired of hearing about that. Now, if
Speaker 2: the old school Celtics with Larry Bird, you never get
Speaker 2: tired of that. But he cultivated himself as not just
Speaker 2: a basketball guy, but then an all sports guy and
Speaker 2: then went over into pop culture. And we have similarities
Speaker 2: in that capacity. So you're right if you're saying you
Speaker 2: should really like him, because you guys are not equal
Speaker 2: in smarts, because I'm about as smart as this tabletop,
Speaker 2: but we are equal in terms of what we like,
Speaker 2: what we enjoy, whether it's sports, or entertainment or movies
Speaker 2: or television shows or music. We are certainly in that
Speaker 2: same category. He's just been widely, massively more successful than
Speaker 2: your good friends sitting right here and two thumbs up,
Speaker 2: like Fonzarelli to him for that. However, what he had
Speaker 2: to say about the WNBA, we'll get to coming up
Speaker 2: in a little bit, is is curate. They need new leadership.
Speaker 2: They do, And what I have said about the WNBA
Speaker 2: is I want it to be about basketball, and with
Speaker 2: this leadership, it's never going to be about basketball because
Speaker 2: it's not like anybody really rallies and then spotlights the
Speaker 2: talent they have, because there is talent there. Now it
Speaker 2: depends on you know, how you view you know, talent.
Speaker 2: If you look at the NBA and the WNBA, they're
Speaker 2: just simply put, there are massive differences in the talent.
Speaker 2: But in terms of basketball on whatever level, the WNBA
Speaker 2: has a ton of stars. Yet the only thing that
Speaker 2: you ever hear is pissing and moaning about the WNBA. Now,
Speaker 2: let's face it, the only thing you ever hear around
Speaker 2: here is pissing and moaning about the fever. And the fever.
Speaker 2: They don't handle it well either. They haven't yet the WNBA,
Speaker 2: And really that's where it starts. Your leader has to
Speaker 2: set the trend and the tone for everybody else, and
Speaker 2: in this case that has not happened. Thus you constantly
Speaker 2: find yourself I think Simmons referenced it as constantly stepping
Speaker 2: into bear traps. They just look unprepared. By now. You
Speaker 2: should have some sort of blueprint or game plan about
Speaker 2: how to handle it, and they don't act like that.
Speaker 2: They have the foggiest idea. And oftentimes the Fever have
Speaker 2: shown the same thing. And I have been a tremendous
Speaker 2: defender of Stephanie White from a coaching angle her coaching.
Speaker 2: Her coaching has been for the most part, other than
Speaker 2: stuff that you can go at and just be critical
Speaker 2: of because she's a coach in general. Anyway, to me,
Speaker 2: a lot of the short cummings that we see on
Speaker 2: the floor comes down to the players and what they do,
Speaker 2: the mistakes they make, the decision making, the lack of defense,
Speaker 2: the lack of rebounding, fouling too much, turning the ball
Speaker 2: over too much. That to me is well out of
Speaker 2: the control of the head coach. But here's what is
Speaker 2: at this point in time. If I'm Stephanie White, and
Speaker 2: I had to exit from social media because of all
Speaker 2: the jackassery. And I haven't heard her on with Jake.
Speaker 2: I know that she had a really nice relationship with
Speaker 2: Jake coming on all the time. I don't think we've
Speaker 2: heard her on Jake with Quarrying Company in a while.
Speaker 2: And there's reasons behind that, because you get tired of
Speaker 2: it and you just kind of you hunk her down,
Speaker 2: if you will, and you try to make everything as
Speaker 2: normal surrounding basketball as you can. And I thought Saturday
Speaker 2: afternoon after the player ejection and what took place in
Speaker 2: that win ninety eighty six over Chicago. So you had
Speaker 2: a player for the Sky that basically by the neck
Speaker 2: tackled Sophie Cunningham. That's really the only way you can
Speaker 2: put it. Dejane Carrington tackled by the neck Sophie Cunningham.
Speaker 2: And then you had a lot of the ESPN world
Speaker 2: coming to her defense and saying, well, look at the past,
Speaker 2: look how many plays she's made. It was nothing but
Speaker 2: a reckless and the only thing that could have come
Speaker 2: out of that there was going to be no defensive
Speaker 2: play made. It was going It was reckless and all
Speaker 2: it was going to do was injure somebody because one
Speaker 2: thing is she's not talented or athletic enough to do that.
Speaker 2: And that's why when you look around the WNBA, you
Speaker 2: rarely see block shots unless it's just a taller player
Speaker 2: standing up with her arms stretched out trying to block
Speaker 2: somebody down low, or you get a block from coming
Speaker 2: in from behind. Because the athleticism compared to the block
Speaker 2: shots that were used to seeing it that that's not
Speaker 2: part of their game. So the only outcome from that
Speaker 2: and that trackdown was going to be exactly what we saw,
Speaker 2: and it was malicious. I don't know about the whole
Speaker 2: want you guys, can the nerds all go with? Well,
Speaker 2: that was wind up there. It was just a reckless,
Speaker 2: dumb ass play. I don't know if that is in
Speaker 2: the Is that in the real book? Reckless and dumbass?
Speaker 2: That's what it was. That was a dumb ass play.
Speaker 2: And all you're going to accomplish you didn't, I mean,
Speaker 2: score it anyway. You're not going to accomplish getting anything
Speaker 2: done defensively. All you're going to do is compromise yourself
Speaker 2: and your team and then you're going to go into
Speaker 2: the locker room, and you're gonna send something out on
Speaker 2: Instagram and look like an even bigger dumbass. And then
Speaker 2: with that, you're gonna make your team and your league
Speaker 2: look like a bunch of dumbasses. That's all you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: That's all this is accomplished. And that's yet another reason
Speaker 2: why the WNBA needs new leadership and new guidance. But
Speaker 2: for Stephanie White, if I were her, and I know,
Speaker 2: nobody over there is listening, and nobody over there cares,
Speaker 2: And frankly, that's okay because it's not like you guys
Speaker 2: are providing a great deal of leadership in the first place.
Speaker 2: You are basically right there with the WNBA. So I'm
Speaker 2: just going to hand out this advice and if somebody
Speaker 2: hears it, so be it. If somebody does it, because
Speaker 2: you know how, I do defend Stephanie White as the coach,
Speaker 2: but as I defend her as a coach, she has
Speaker 2: to defend her players. These guys are all in the
Speaker 2: huddle together, and the only thing different in defensively looking
Speaker 2: at that malicious play is trying to figure out whether
Speaker 2: there was intent. Who cares? It was reckless and anybody
Speaker 2: can see that. But once you get around your team,
Speaker 2: that's who you're with, that's who's playing for you, that's
Speaker 2: who you're coaching, that's your family. You defend your family.
Speaker 2: You defend your family. I would expect that every single time,
Speaker 2: and I think you do it vehemently. You do it
Speaker 2: like I defend you as a coach when things don't
Speaker 2: work out, when you don't foul, when you're up three
Speaker 2: on a final play. You know, I defend the fact
Speaker 2: there wasn't enough time. I'll defend you as the coach.
Speaker 2: But you have to defend your team. And it was
Speaker 2: malicious and it was reckless, and that's all you need.
Speaker 2: I don't care about the brand of Sophie Cunningham. I
Speaker 2: don't care about the thoughts of white privilege after the
Speaker 2: game of Carrot, none of that matters. You defend, you
Speaker 2: huddle up, and you stay tight with your team. And
Speaker 2: the dialogue after that game on Saturday did not speak
Speaker 2: to the level in which it should have. And I'm
Speaker 2: not going to try to read the body language of
Speaker 2: the players, including Caitlin Clark up there. Somebody else can
Speaker 2: read the body language. I can just tell you you
Speaker 2: stay tight. That's not tight, and that's what's necessary. And
Speaker 2: if I'm Stephanie White, it really wouldn't matter to me.
Speaker 2: I'm getting it from every single direction. Had I said
Speaker 2: or taken my advice, if you're Stephanie White, she probably
Speaker 2: still would be slung with the era. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: what she does. She's always going to be criticized. But
Speaker 2: you want to make sure everybody in that locker room,
Speaker 2: everybody in that huddle, is tight. And that wasn't great.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't understand what needs to be done.
Speaker 2: People say, well, they're not getting coached up enough, they're
Speaker 2: not getting guidance. My god, that's just sports. That's just sports.
Speaker 2: It's almostly. Can you imagine you imagine going all the
Speaker 2: way back to the eighties or stuff like this was commonplace.
Speaker 2: You know, one of the most noted plays in history
Speaker 2: was that playoff game with the Celtics and the Lakers
Speaker 2: when Kevin McHale closed line Kurt Rambus. That's exactly what
Speaker 2: it was. It was a closed line with a purpose,
Speaker 2: and even if there was not significant purpose behind it, right,
Speaker 2: it was again reckless, it was dangerous, and it was
Speaker 2: dealt with the way that it should have been dealt with.
Speaker 2: Just not by the fever head coach after the game.
Speaker 2: Can't be doing that stuff. There's zero way. And I
Speaker 2: had to watch the ESPN. I don't know whoever on
Speaker 2: the show. You could tell me, Caleb, who are the
Speaker 2: ones on the show? The WNBA show and they go
Speaker 2: back to a lot of these track down plays. Listen,
Speaker 2: this Carrington chick is not Lebron James. Okay, that stuff's
Speaker 2: not going to happen. There's zero way these women are
Speaker 2: going to be able to jump up and discard from
Speaker 2: the side every single time you're going to make contact,
Speaker 2: and that's dangerous. Contact has nothing to do with white
Speaker 2: privilege or now there's no privilege there it like, I'll
Speaker 2: get that was the easiest call the WNBA and the
Speaker 2: officials have made this season. Now rescinding the technical that
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark was the second easiest, but that was the easiest.
Speaker 2: I don't even know why at disappoint in time with
Speaker 2: the rest of the league and everybody around it, and
Speaker 2: with all that's coming at her, I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Stephanie White, who was a fantastic player and a fantastic teammate,
Speaker 2: you got to get this thing tight, man. You're leaving
Speaker 2: loose ends on Saturday afternoon. You don't want that. That
Speaker 2: is the only way you get through again the world
Speaker 2: in which has been created by the fandom of Caitlin
Speaker 2: Clark and the focus on getting the responses that a
Speaker 2: lot of those media hijackers out there get off on.
Speaker 2: They see the response and they go with it. Otherwise
Speaker 2: they really don't care. I don't care anything about what
Speaker 2: happens in these games. You think Jason Whitlock's all of
Speaker 2: a sudden the big WNBA fit, Hell, no he's not.
Speaker 2: I mean, he gets response for whatever the hell he
Speaker 2: does right now. That's it. Nothing else. Otherwise he wouldn't care.
Speaker 2: And really, if that's what you do, I'm not blaming him,
Speaker 2: not blaming any of these guys for what they say.
Speaker 2: If you want to verbally grift and you know, take
Speaker 2: people with you, that's the time to do it. And
Speaker 2: certainly that is the subject matter to do it. But
Speaker 2: if you're the fever, you've got to tighten up and
Speaker 2: you've settled it. Kaitlin Clark says all the right things
Speaker 2: about being about basketball, and you just you got to
Speaker 2: be hardcore and say those are the types of plays
Speaker 2: that you absolutely have to eliminate that was so much
Speaker 2: more egregious than even the fist to the throat of
Speaker 2: the neck area of Kaitlyn Clark. You have to come
Speaker 2: out because nobody else cares about you. Everybody else out there.
Speaker 2: Once you can, everybody wants you can. I think I
Speaker 2: saw what's his name beckwith the Lieutenant governor. You think
Speaker 2: that dude's ever dribbled a basketball in his life? Hell no,
Speaker 2: his cheeks are way too rosy to be dribbling a basketball.
Speaker 2: There's zero way he's ever dribbled a basketball. Yet now
Speaker 2: he wants to fever coach fired. You guys don't need that.
Speaker 2: Just stay tight with your team. And that didn't get
Speaker 2: it done. And I will also tell you, even if
Speaker 2: it's something that you thought was to the detriment of
Speaker 2: the league, the hell with it. The league's discombobulated as hell.
Speaker 2: Worry about the people you're going to battle with. Don't
Speaker 2: worry about the people you're going to battle with and
Speaker 2: their thoughts or their brands. You coach them, you stay
Speaker 2: tight with them. I know it's easier said than done,
Speaker 2: but damn, so many years of hoop and not to
Speaker 2: recognize that is it's flabbergasting, it really is. So anyway,
Speaker 2: I know you don't listen over there. I know nobody
Speaker 2: over there has every been on the show, and that's okay.
Speaker 2: I don't really care. But my advice again, which you
Speaker 2: won't hear or you'll leave, is make sure that everybody
Speaker 2: in that line room and that huddle is on the
Speaker 2: same page with you, and you didn't do that. Stay tight,
Speaker 2: and there was zero defense of that defensive move of Carrington,
Speaker 2: even though you saw that from ESPN and others, and
Speaker 2: not a way in the world she's going to track
Speaker 2: down anybody from behind and block it from behind. And
Speaker 2: you're lucky the player. You're lucky. Sophie Cunningham in this
Speaker 2: case wasn't injured more than she was. That's a reckless play.
Speaker 2: You can't have that. Anybody that's ever played basketball understands it.
Speaker 2: Why don't they quick break? We'll come back from that
Speaker 2: on the other side too. We got Steven Holder is
Speaker 2: going to join us. We'll talk Colts in depth chart.
Speaker 2: You guys want to hear the first official depth chart
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty six Colts Camp. You guys so excited,
Speaker 2: you just can't Where's Jesse Spano to sing some Pointer
Speaker 2: Sisters for us right here. I'm so excited, I just can't.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. You know what I'm talking about. Say
Speaker 2: by the bell, Jesse spanno over there, call, come on
Speaker 2: now song.
Speaker 6: I know the song.
Speaker 2: She was taking speed so she could stay up and study.
Speaker 2: Zach Morris was the voice of reason. You can't sing tonight, Jesse,
Speaker 2: you're stoned so excited. We'll do that with Stephen coming
Speaker 2: up in the five o'clock hour. Is a mutual friend
Speaker 2: of ours coming on this show. Have I heard this?
Speaker 2: After four o'clock hour? He is?
Speaker 6: I mean, people will love to hear this story.
Speaker 2: You know. Now, I will say among those that are
Speaker 2: first in line to make fun of what they do
Speaker 2: all the time, that would be me. I can't say
Speaker 2: what I call them on the air whiffle blanks. Now
Speaker 2: I have an actually grind on it, because whenever the
Speaker 2: whiffle blanks end up whiffle blinking, I always get screwed.
Speaker 2: On a Sunday and we're not able to play. Nobody
Speaker 2: opens the gym, we can't play, so the whiffle blanks
Speaker 2: are whiffle blanking, and then I'm kind of stuck right,
Speaker 2: and by the way, shout out to Jason Wiseman injured.
Speaker 2: And then all these new dudes that showed up yesterday
Speaker 2: and played twelve strong when it was one hundred and
Speaker 2: five degrees in the Center Grove Central Gymnasium. It would
Speaker 2: have been an awesome morning had I not sucked. Other
Speaker 2: than that, it was just kind of halfway awesome because
Speaker 2: I got a good sweat knocked out about twelve hundred calories. Now,
Speaker 2: Brendan Dutas is the baseball coach at Southport. He is
Speaker 2: one of the more awesome dudes anybody out there will
Speaker 2: ever meet. And he is a member of the New
Speaker 2: York Green Apples Championship Wiffle blank team. I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to say, whiffle blank. The entire time.
Speaker 6: Big League Whiffle champions is also excepted.
Speaker 2: But you can do what you want whiffle. Now we
Speaker 2: are going to joke. Look, because I watched these games.
Speaker 2: It was on the Oacho last week, right, Their championship
Speaker 2: game was on the Oacho, And did you see I
Speaker 2: sent a text and I said, hey, Dudas, go make
Speaker 2: some contact. These guys never make any contact. It's just
Speaker 2: to get up to the plate. And strike out.
Speaker 6: Well, you just ask him about this.
Speaker 2: These whiffleballs, these pitches they throw look like something out
Speaker 2: of a cartoon where it was like a courtscrew. So
Speaker 2: I was like, it starts out about twenty five feet
Speaker 2: in the left, it comes back in and hits the target,
Speaker 2: the New York Green apples. And he is a mutual
Speaker 2: friend of Caleb and I. His name is Brendan Dudas,
Speaker 2: and he was a part of that championship team and
Speaker 2: we are proud to have him. He's got actually a field.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the dirt yard before social media?
Speaker 6: I need to get there a person, though.
Speaker 2: He's got the dirt yard down there. The whiffle blanks.
Speaker 2: See if you can guess what I call the whiffle blanks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can guess I Yes, have you heard me put
Speaker 2: it in there before? Yes, Hey, it looks like we're
Speaker 2: getting whiffle blank.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Dudeas is awesome. Though, dude's going to join us at
Speaker 2: the four o'clock hour. All right, quick break, we'll come back. Now.
Speaker 2: You can find us anywhere stream app, HD radio. Now
Speaker 2: you can watch us Speccoli right here, rock in the
Speaker 2: Vans T shirt. Got a lot more for you. On
Speaker 2: what is going to be a spectacular week and where
Speaker 2: you can join me out of the road. I'll explain
Speaker 2: coming up, Stay right there. Ninety three five and one
Speaker 2: oh seven five the Fan. Here's a weather update.
Speaker 4: The ride with JMV.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding you think I'd joined this crummy snabbatorium?
Speaker 1: What his whole place sucks? That's right, it sucks.
Speaker 4: Ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.
Speaker 7: Instead, it's all this discourse stuff and they're just stepping
Speaker 7: in bear traps left and right because they have no
Speaker 7: adults in charge of the league. Finals are going to
Speaker 7: be on two different channels depending.
Speaker 6: On the game.
Speaker 7: How stupid and desperate for money do you have to
Speaker 7: be to agree to that? They by far have the
Speaker 7: best collection of players that I think they've had. I
Speaker 7: don't know anybody who thinks they're well run. So they
Speaker 7: have to fix this, and I hope they do.
Speaker 2: But we're always thrust into just a complete level of
Speaker 2: jack assery. It drives your nuts, and then we're going
Speaker 2: to go into a realm right now too, where you're
Speaker 2: going to be out of side, out of mind when
Speaker 2: football takes over. Yet, good luck. I don't care how
Speaker 2: robust the globe is with Caitlin Clark fans, it'll all
Speaker 2: go away, poof gone. Take advantage of it when you can,
Speaker 2: And the same can be said for Stephanie one. You
Speaker 2: got to take advantage of it when you can. That's
Speaker 2: an easy call. As a leader of the team, reckless
Speaker 2: around the neck. You don't have to say, well, look,
Speaker 2: got see it purposely and all because of what's being said,
Speaker 2: and none of you can just say that is the
Speaker 2: stuff you have to eliminate. That's like the fist of
Speaker 2: the throat of Kaitlin Clark, and that's how you further
Speaker 2: galvanize your group. But instead, I don't know about the
Speaker 2: inner workings in the locker room, but I mean, hell,
Speaker 2: if you're a player on that, you don't want to
Speaker 2: hear that. And then you're constantly trying to tell them
Speaker 2: to do stuff that they don't look capable of doing,
Speaker 2: playing defense often and you're trying to compel them to
Speaker 2: play defense. And then you're going out there, we gotta
Speaker 2: play defense. You're gonna be and they're gonna go, oh,
Speaker 2: all right, so great. It's got to be about all you.
Speaker 2: That's all you really have left at this point. Got
Speaker 2: to be about you guys, your team in that huddle,
Speaker 2: and that wasn't on Saturday. And I have been a
Speaker 2: defender like I get, and I love Jennifer right here too.
Speaker 2: I will always love Jennifer. But we're gonna disagree on
Speaker 2: the coaching angle about you know, the defense, and there's
Speaker 2: no defense of the way that she's coaching when they lose.
Speaker 2: Her coaching is far less egregious than their execution on
Speaker 2: the floor. That's their fault, that's the player's fault. The
Speaker 2: players can own some stuff. It'd be nice if players
Speaker 2: would own some stuff. And I know in the moment,
Speaker 2: you may not want to. And you know, the Carrington
Speaker 2: girl goes into the I'm mad you know you own
Speaker 2: some stuff? Yeah, that was me in a big time
Speaker 2: jackass moment. Look how stupid I look. And then the
Speaker 2: WNBA needs to probably set her down. Be nice that
Speaker 2: the players would own some stuff. See, because the players
Speaker 2: own some stuff. And I think Kayln Clark does a
Speaker 2: good job of that too. That Kaitlin Clark doesn't leave
Speaker 2: her her coach could be on the hook for the
Speaker 2: reason why they don't get better defensively, or they turn
Speaker 2: it over too much, or you know why do you
Speaker 2: leave teams hanging around that are far less talented than
Speaker 2: you and you get well, you know they're coaching, but instead,
Speaker 2: you know, Caitlyn Clark always takes ownership because she is
Speaker 2: about the ball that's taking place on the floor. That
Speaker 2: was an easy call for a coach to say, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's egregious, that's reckless and absolutely can never happen. That's
Speaker 2: all you have to say. Defend your players. I would
Speaker 2: say that even if you don't like them, defend them.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but even if you don't like him,
Speaker 2: defend them. Are you not healthy together? Defend him on
Speaker 2: the floor actions. You know, we still to this day,
Speaker 2: right and I'm not alone in this cat. We'll still
Speaker 2: to this day. There was no more egregious act that
Speaker 2: submarined a championship season than Meta World Peace. We'ren our
Speaker 2: test here, and look how we act toward him. There's
Speaker 2: nobody that more submarine the last however many years, when
Speaker 2: he retired two weeks before the start of the season,
Speaker 2: than Andrew Luck. And this is not me, but look
Speaker 2: how most people will treat him. And we're not even
Speaker 2: talking about people in the locker room or people on
Speaker 2: the huddle. Your coach has to go to bat, has
Speaker 2: to stay strong with the players. I'm not even gonna
Speaker 2: say you missed an opportunity. It wasn't an opportunity that
Speaker 2: was easy. It was easy. Forearm around the neck, reckless behavior.
Speaker 2: You have to do that. That, to me, again, is
Speaker 2: far more egregious than why she can't get to her
Speaker 2: team to play defense. Well, her team basically goes one
Speaker 2: step left and one step right defensively, and that's about it.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if maybe she can get out
Speaker 2: there and push him, but other than that, probably not.
Speaker 2: But she certainly could have helped her team herself with
Speaker 2: that and didn't. This date back in nineteen eighty four
Speaker 2: significant for what Well, for one, it being an awesome summer,
Speaker 2: the US men's basketball team one gold in these summer Olympics.
Speaker 2: Does mull ever talk that up the legend of that
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four US Olympic basketball team.
Speaker 6: I'm sure he's touched on it.
Speaker 2: Big Mo, by the way, is Caleb's dad. And I
Speaker 2: met Big Mo and Betsy over the weekend. I love
Speaker 2: your parents, I love your people.
Speaker 6: Good people.
Speaker 2: That was even they didn't come over to the barbecue.
Speaker 5: Well, hey, that was Jordan's he was in those Olympics, correct, Yes.
Speaker 2: The most significant thing about the team photograph, you know,
Speaker 2: besides the fact that you have Bob Knight, the late
Speaker 2: great Hall of Fame coach. There's Tim Garl right there,
Speaker 2: the AU trainer. There's Steve Offered from Newcastle. He's right
Speaker 2: there in the picture bottom left. Most significant thing that
Speaker 2: I've always wondered what happened and why they didn't send
Speaker 2: a different picture out. You ever noticed I think it
Speaker 2: was Alvin Robertson in the bottom row. It looks like
Speaker 2: he's side eyeing Jordan, like Jordan's in the middle, and
Speaker 2: I think that's Alvin Robertson next to him, and it's
Speaker 2: Alvin Robertson that is looking They they probably should have
Speaker 2: gone with a different print. Yeah, right there. It's like
Speaker 2: they was taken it in the sixties and you had
Speaker 2: like one opportunity to get it and if you screwed
Speaker 2: it up, like leave it to beaver or something, that
Speaker 2: it was going to be forever.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they they've always left that picture in there
Speaker 2: of him looking to his right and it looks like
Speaker 2: he's side eyeing Michael Jordan. You see that. I do.
Speaker 2: It's always been weird to me. I've never been able
Speaker 2: to get past that. I love watching that team though.
Speaker 2: That was fun. I look back on it too, just
Speaker 2: in general terms, the summer of nineteen eighty four was
Speaker 2: fun for me. Good times. So yeah, Anthony Richardson and
Speaker 2: now everybody that you know wants some hits is going
Speaker 2: to explain what he did it. Just like I said,
Speaker 2: the only people that truly ever felt this was what
Speaker 2: clearly it was would be I think those of the
Speaker 2: Caleb generation Z and most will point to subbing himself
Speaker 2: out what back in what season was? Was that Wendy
Speaker 2: something was two years ago?
Speaker 6: Two years ago? Yep.
Speaker 2: I don't even look at it as that. I just
Speaker 2: think when your accuracy is that you can just kind
Speaker 2: of tell.
Speaker 5: But don't you do you think John that like, and
Speaker 5: I know this has been talked about at length on
Speaker 5: this station, but don't you think that that is such
Speaker 5: a microcosm of like, you took this guy that was
Speaker 5: inexperienced and then he was so naive in that moment
Speaker 5: that he didn't know it was not okay to not
Speaker 5: only just tap out, but then and afterwards admit it.
Speaker 5: Like to me, it's such an embodiment of the whole experience.
Speaker 2: You know, I think the biggest role at all this
Speaker 2: is and I know a lot of people also get
Speaker 2: bent out of shape of this. And this is why
Speaker 2: when people ask is Andrew Luck going to go in
Speaker 2: the Ring of Honor? I would suggest certainly not until
Speaker 2: they win something of significance, because that started all of this. Well,
Speaker 2: he had every right to do it. Yeah, he had
Speaker 2: every right to do it. But Peyton Manning has said
Speaker 2: this before. If you're in it in the spring of
Speaker 2: that year, you're sure as hell in it, unless you're
Speaker 2: injured and compromised in the August of that year. If
Speaker 2: you're the most important position played on the team in
Speaker 2: sports man, that started all of it. That's why when
Speaker 2: people ask about the Ring of Honor, I can't imagine
Speaker 2: because you're going to get halfway booed. And I know
Speaker 2: a lot of stances have softened, but just know this
Speaker 2: to be true. I mean, if you don't believe what
Speaker 2: I've said by now about all this, then you're never
Speaker 2: gonna But just take my word for it. It would
Speaker 2: not be great. This is not going This would not
Speaker 2: be the all great come together that some people would
Speaker 2: like to suggest it to be just continue to do
Speaker 2: what you do and then one of these days when
Speaker 2: you win something of significance, and maybe your generation is
Speaker 2: a lot older and old asses like me are no
Speaker 2: longer with it or capable of understanding what the hell's
Speaker 2: going on in general, then do it right. But right
Speaker 2: now it would not be good, zero goodness out of it,
Speaker 2: Dudas Top of the Hour, Right man, Brendan Dude is
Speaker 2: one of the great dudes out there. Is the Southport
Speaker 2: baseball coach, and he was a member of the championship
Speaker 2: New York Green Apples. Correct, These guys actually signed contracts
Speaker 2: and stuff too. Pretty cool, Dudas. Top of the Hour.
Speaker 2: Stephen Holder coming up in the five o'clock hour, got
Speaker 2: a lot more for you too, and more about the
Speaker 2: fever by the way back on her her being Kaitlin
Speaker 2: Clark technical rescinded. So it is all and it should
Speaker 2: have been too. That was the two easiest calls to
Speaker 2: make over the course of that game was afterwards making
Speaker 2: sure that that team didn't count, and then obviously during
Speaker 2: the game, tossing the player with the clothes line. Can't
Speaker 2: close line. People in basketball jackasses come on has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with anything privilege. It has everything to do
Speaker 2: with you being a reckless jackass. I don't think that's
Speaker 2: a privilege, although I will say this, sometimes you look
Speaker 2: around this world, there are a lot of them out there,
Speaker 2: reckless jack assery. It appears to be there's some sort
Speaker 2: of privilege because it is all too familiar, all too common.
Speaker 2: It's wondering three one's seven, two, three, nine, ten seven.
Speaker 2: You can do the phones, you can do the tech stream.
Speaker 2: I'm flexible. Ninety three five, one oh seven five the fan,
Speaker 2: the ride with JMV.
Speaker 4: I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Where'd you just said?
Speaker 4: Ninety three to five and one oh seven five the fan?
Speaker 1: Do you to?
Speaker 8: I still don't know how you got this Texas kid
Speaker 8: up to West Lafaette, Indiana. But it was certainly one
Speaker 8: of the best decisions I ever made, Sorry Boom. I
Speaker 8: chose p due because of its academic reputation and the
Speaker 8: opportunity to play in the Big Ten Conference. Little did
Speaker 8: I know I would leave four years later with one
Speaker 8: of the most respective degrees in the country, a Big
Speaker 8: Ten championship, the love of my life, and an opportunity
Speaker 8: to live out my childhood dream being a professional athlete.
Speaker 2: Did he also pee in the boiler room at the
Speaker 2: Skullhouse while in West Lafayette? Anybody ever do that? Ever
Speaker 2: go to the Skullhouse for a party in West Lafatte
Speaker 2: by the way, that's Drew Brees ever go to the
Speaker 2: Skullhouse for a party in West Lafayette? Who out there?
Speaker 2: Pete in the boiler room? Pete in the boiler room
Speaker 2: a number of times?
Speaker 6: That should have made the speech, John, I know, are right.
Speaker 2: You should have mentioned that love of my life and
Speaker 2: Pete in the boiler room while in West Lafayette. Drew
Speaker 2: Brees right there? Cool as hell. NBA schedule later on
Speaker 2: this week made official. Yes, yeah, I'm waiting for that
Speaker 2: Cacer's nix on Christmas Day on We're gonna see if
Speaker 2: it was it Austin Craft No, Dad Bod Sports. We're
Speaker 2: gonna see if dadod Sports was accurate. Who agrees with
Speaker 2: the Pacers and the Knicks opening up Christmas Day NBA
Speaker 2: activity in Madison Square Garden? Will that happen? Will Dad
Speaker 2: Bod Sports be best?
Speaker 6: At another one, there was another guy we were dang it.
Speaker 2: That was Rooster Rooster. Rooster Rooster and Dad bots I
Speaker 2: think Rooster got this from dad Bod Sports, though there
Speaker 2: is no other authority necessary after dad Bod Sports. So
Speaker 2: what's the day when the schedule is official?
Speaker 6: They haven't really said.
Speaker 5: What I think they're going to do with this, John
Speaker 5: is they're going to trickle out the National TV games,
Speaker 5: the Christmas Day games, maybe some Martin Luther King Day games,
Speaker 5: and they're like all that throughout the week and then
Speaker 5: maybe by the end of the week it probably the
Speaker 5: full schedule gets released.
Speaker 6: That's how I'd imagine it going.
Speaker 2: Dad Bod Sports. So who's what be on this Pacers
Speaker 2: Knicks to start things off on Christmas Day? Do we
Speaker 2: have any poll? We're gonna tell you what we'll do.
Speaker 2: I'll just I'll do a text line poll three one, seven, two, three, nine,
Speaker 2: ten seventy yes or no on the Pacers and the
Speaker 2: Knicks Christmas Day to lead we have to have it
Speaker 2: accurate for dad bot Sports. Our guy Dudas is going
Speaker 2: to join us. On the other side. I'm excited Southport
Speaker 2: baseball coach and he is one of the Whiffle Blanks
Speaker 2: and a friend of his show and a friend of ours.
Speaker 2: Brenda Dudas, Steven Holder, you and I for the next
Speaker 2: two hours. My advice don't go anywhere. This blank only
Speaker 2: gets better. Ninety three to five and one oh seven
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Speaker 4: I love winning, man, I love winning.
Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He's like losing that he three five and one oh
Speaker 4: seven five The Fan It harsh.
Speaker 9: And Rose co founded the Atlas water bottle brand with
Speaker 9: his friend Reed Wlimart played a Boulders Bapples Your big
Speaker 9: League Griffe the Gold Champions Will Smithy, No, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: That Green Apples a win on the Old show The
Speaker 2: Call from Last Friday. And you know the greatness of
Speaker 2: something when it is the lead into the dunk tossing,
Speaker 2: the dunk Tossing. I don't know if anybody watched dunk
Speaker 2: Tossing last week, but uh, it was outstanding. So Brendan,
Speaker 2: I always want to call him Dudas, so it's going
Speaker 2: to be tough for me to call him by his
Speaker 2: first name. Brendan Dudas, who was a part of the
Speaker 2: Green Apples, joins us in a second, Hey quickly. Keith Morland,
Speaker 2: the former Major leaguer, is doing the Southwest Regional Championship
Speaker 2: game with Louisiana and in West Texas. He was a big
Speaker 2: fan of Keith Morland. And I know this speaks to
Speaker 2: a lot of Cubs fans, which obviously I am not.
Speaker 2: Certainly the Cubs and the Phillies most noted, but I
Speaker 2: like Keith Morland back of the day doing this Southwest
Speaker 2: Region Championship Little League World Series tilt between Louisiana and
Speaker 2: Texas West. Right now, Dudas ready on the Andy Moore
Speaker 2: Automotive Group potline. I'm going to have to apologize beforehand.
Speaker 2: There's zero away I'm going to be able to reference
Speaker 2: him by his first name because I just call him Dudas.
Speaker 2: Brendan Dudas, who is the baseball coach at Southport High School,
Speaker 2: is a part of the New York Green Apples in
Speaker 2: the Big League whiff A Ball World Series champions and
Speaker 2: he's a friend of ours kind of enough to join
Speaker 2: us on the Andy More Automotive Group potline. Dudas, what's
Speaker 2: up with you?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 10: John?
Speaker 1: How are you? Man?
Speaker 2: Are you back from wherever you flew to over the
Speaker 2: weekend and screwed us over and didn't open up even
Speaker 2: though we had to find someplace olf to open up, dude.
Speaker 11: Listen, last three or four days have been an absolute whirlwind.
Speaker 11: You know, back from Orlando, then immediately on the road
Speaker 11: to Michigan for a wedding, and then so Sunday morning,
Speaker 11: I'm in Michigan and driving back from there.
Speaker 2: But I'm finally back home the wedding. Oh you got
Speaker 2: dragged to a wedding? Now, was it your friend or
Speaker 2: your wife's?
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was It was my cousin. So I was
Speaker 11: the one doing the dragging, all.
Speaker 2: Right, So so she probably didn't want to go in
Speaker 2: this case, right, and you made her go?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 11: It was a you know, it was a family member
Speaker 11: that we needed to catch up with and it was
Speaker 11: a great time.
Speaker 2: Switzerland is Brendan Dudis right here on the Andy Moore
Speaker 2: I Motive Group potlight. Hey, tell folks about this because
Speaker 2: we were privy to it watching it on Friday. You guys,
Speaker 2: the Green Apples get the championship win. This is big
Speaker 2: league whiffle ball. And around here there are some notables.
Speaker 2: And it really all began in your backyard. They're off
Speaker 2: of Eppler on the south side, didn't it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So, I mean I went to the University of
Speaker 11: Minneapolis and played baseball there and I had started this
Speaker 11: league in my dorm room as a freshman there, but
Speaker 11: had been playing competitive wiffle ball for a while before
Speaker 11: that and got some of my teammates to come out
Speaker 11: for a tournament one day and they all got hooked
Speaker 11: and from there.
Speaker 1: This thing really took off. So this is Circle City.
Speaker 11: Whiffle, which is a local league like you mentioned here
Speaker 11: on the South Side, and from there, like I said,
Speaker 11: we really rose to prominence and have since won like
Speaker 11: three national championships with that league, and we travel all
Speaker 11: around the country playing with Circle City Whiffle, which kind
Speaker 11: of led in to us being invited to be some
Speaker 11: one of the inaugural teams for Big League Wiffle, the
Speaker 11: first professional whiffleball league of its kind.
Speaker 2: So ever, Yeah, it is amazing, and I want to
Speaker 2: get back to the roots because you have an incredibly
Speaker 2: unique field, a whif football field, and really it's every
Speaker 2: dude's growing up dream, and really when you get older,
Speaker 2: it's your dream too to have your very own wiffle
Speaker 2: ball field in your backyard. And that's exactly what you
Speaker 2: put together. It's called the dirt yard.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and that's really what we made our name on.
Speaker 11: I mean before we were actually good at wiffleball. We
Speaker 11: had I would call one of the world's best wiffleball fields,
Speaker 11: especially considering it's in a backyard, which is where whiffleball
Speaker 11: is meant to be played.
Speaker 1: It's all thanks to Mike Speak and Americ Fence.
Speaker 11: He you know, he joined the league back in twenty
Speaker 11: eighteen and was like, dude, this, I really want to
Speaker 11: take this to the next level. And I was like,
Speaker 11: what do you mean by that, Mike, And he sent
Speaker 11: me the drawing of this stadium built out of cedar,
Speaker 11: with lights and party decks and all this stuff, and.
Speaker 1: Brought it to life.
Speaker 11: And so the dirt yard has, you know, taken on
Speaker 11: a life of its own, and you know, I think
Speaker 11: even exists on a stage by itself, you know, separate
Speaker 11: from Circle City Whiffle and being its own famous entities.
Speaker 11: So really blessed and grateful to have that, and honestly
Speaker 11: for amazing parents to let that party go down in
Speaker 11: the backyard every single week of the summer.
Speaker 2: Had no doubt about that. Brendan Dudas, also the baseball
Speaker 2: coach at south Ford and educator at south Ford High School,
Speaker 2: is on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline with us.
Speaker 2: How many years did it take to get you know,
Speaker 2: obviously started at the dirt yard in Circle City and
Speaker 2: then to see you know, this transpire with Big League
Speaker 2: whiffle ball. How many years was that?
Speaker 1: Well, we started the league, it's been over a decade now.
Speaker 11: Freshman year in my dorm, traveled to our first national
Speaker 11: tournament back in twenty sixteen and got throttled like thirty
Speaker 11: to nothing in our first game, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 11: you know what am I getting myself into? And from
Speaker 11: there it was just sort of kind of building on
Speaker 11: that and adding players and getting you know, competitive guys
Speaker 11: out to the field to give it a shot. And
Speaker 11: you know, once those you indie guys jumped on board,
Speaker 11: Will Smithie, Dylan Jones, Reed Werner, Mike Whitty, we really
Speaker 11: took off as a league. And since you know, twenty
Speaker 11: twenty twenty twenty one, we have been I would say,
Speaker 11: one of the best leagues in the entire country, which
Speaker 11: you know, gave us the notoriety that allowed them to
Speaker 11: invite us out to be part of this big league
Speaker 11: wiffle venture.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, and I know that there have been stories
Speaker 2: written before from the store. I know Doyle came down
Speaker 2: and did a story on you guys. I know Derek
Speaker 2: Schultz has been down. I think he did something live
Speaker 2: with Greg's Network as well once upon a time. So
Speaker 2: you've certainly had the notoriety. But did you ever think
Speaker 2: that it was going to take you. I thought it
Speaker 2: was cool as hell watching you and guys from around
Speaker 2: here play on ESPN two. They called it the Ohow
Speaker 2: on Friday, but it was ESPN two the entire day.
Speaker 2: That was awesome to watch you guys do that and
Speaker 2: fun as hell, dude.
Speaker 11: Just I mean, surreal, is what I keep saying. What
Speaker 11: I keep telling people, like looking around and signing autographs
Speaker 11: and seeing that people are showing up to watch us.
Speaker 1: Like you said, I mean, it's a childhood dream.
Speaker 11: And I always, like, you know, growing up, I practice
Speaker 11: my signature and all this kind of thinking one day
Speaker 11: I'd be a major League baseball player.
Speaker 1: And it's just funny where life takes you.
Speaker 11: And it turns out I'm signing a bunch of autographs
Speaker 11: on plastic whiffleballs instead of leather baseballs.
Speaker 1: But it has just been surreal.
Speaker 11: It's like a dream kind of still waiting to wake
Speaker 11: up from. But I'm just enjoying it while it lasts.
Speaker 2: Well, we say this all the time. You're one of
Speaker 2: the best dudes around. And even though there are times
Speaker 2: when I reference it as whiffle blanking and things like that,
Speaker 2: it's always with love and only in Jess, because I
Speaker 2: know how much hard work you put into it and
Speaker 2: to see all this come to fruition and really evolve
Speaker 2: into what it is, you know, it has to be
Speaker 2: surreal for you in that respect too, And you know what,
Speaker 2: you get to do something and rarely is that the
Speaker 2: case where you can have a hell of a lot
Speaker 2: of fun while you're doing it makes it worthwhile?
Speaker 11: Goodness, Yeah, I mean a lot of times you throw
Speaker 11: around the phrase professional and that can tend to you know,
Speaker 11: ruin and experience ruin a hobby or whatever once you
Speaker 11: start getting paid to do it. I think what makes
Speaker 11: the Green Apples special our group, which is we've all
Speaker 11: have a storied background together being part of you know,
Speaker 11: one organization, but we have a ton of fun and
Speaker 11: we interact with the fans, and we dance and we
Speaker 11: do stupid stuff out there on the field and really
Speaker 11: just got to continue to remember the roots of this,
Speaker 11: which is at the child's game and we're out here
Speaker 11: getting paid to play it, and we got to remember
Speaker 11: to have fun and enjoy the moment.
Speaker 2: So those out there that aren't privy, you guys use
Speaker 2: the old school wiffle balls. Now, when we played wiffleball,
Speaker 2: we modified a lot of things, from you know, the fields,
Speaker 2: to the bats, to the strike zones. You know, we
Speaker 2: put kegs out on second base and things. We all
Speaker 2: did that certainly growing up. But what are the rules
Speaker 2: to big league whiffle that you want to World championship
Speaker 2: last week?
Speaker 11: As as Faro, Yeah, so I think what made the
Speaker 11: Circle City whiffle guys so dangerous is that Big League
Speaker 11: Wiffle and Circle City both use the skinny yellow bat,
Speaker 11: so the whiffleball bat that everybody's used to. Now, where
Speaker 11: Big League whiffle differs is that they allow altering of
Speaker 11: the whiffle ball. And so what guys will do is
Speaker 11: take like a steak knife, a really sharp knife, and
Speaker 11: carve lines on the whole side of the ball which
Speaker 11: cause it.
Speaker 1: Whenever you see a video of the ball breaking.
Speaker 11: Like crazy, typically that's an altered whiffle ball. And so
Speaker 11: forty two feet pitching different distance seventy five mile per
Speaker 11: hour cap but seventy five from forty two. It's getting
Speaker 11: on you. It feels like one hundred right right, And
Speaker 11: not to mention it's breaking as much.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like a cartoon. It's like a quark
Speaker 2: scrawl coming at you.
Speaker 1: Man, good luck, sound effects and all.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you got to kind of guess and hope you
Speaker 11: guess right. And it's difficult. But the similarities between Big
Speaker 11: League Whiffle and Circle City Whiffle is sort of what
Speaker 11: allowed us to be so successful. The fielding aspect, which
Speaker 11: I kind of have made my name on, and then
Speaker 11: the base running aspect. Linda hand for there to be
Speaker 11: you know, some strategies, some IQ and play, and then
Speaker 11: some athleticism are well as well. And I know our
Speaker 11: group is old. You know, we're the dads of the league,
Speaker 11: but we are still a very athletic bunch that pride
Speaker 11: ourselves on that facet of the game.
Speaker 2: That is it's awesome too. I I when I was
Speaker 2: watching there's there's a lot of it. I didn't understand
Speaker 2: it until I watched it. But I was joking to
Speaker 2: you before it started. I said, let's go do this,
Speaker 2: make some contact. And I was being serious because it's
Speaker 2: difficult as hell to make contact doing that.
Speaker 11: If you know, if you noticed, I was only playing
Speaker 11: defense in the championship because I think I had an
Speaker 11: eight at bat streak of strikeouts leading leading into that game.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna mention you DH four or something. I'm
Speaker 2: not mentioning that on this show, Buddy, come on.
Speaker 11: So SO had to turn the focus to making some
Speaker 11: highlight reel plays.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad.
Speaker 11: I'm glad the final ball came to me and I
Speaker 11: got to show off a little bit there hopefully results
Speaker 11: in BLW Gold Glove Award. But man, the other guy
Speaker 11: stepped up, especially Will Smithy, who is being called, you know,
Speaker 11: probably the best football player on the planet now.
Speaker 1: And he's a Center Grove graduate.
Speaker 2: Is he Oh, he went to he went to see
Speaker 2: g IW. He's from Greenwood. I did not know he
Speaker 2: went to Santa Grove. Is he up on the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame wall that I'll walk through all the.
Speaker 11: Time, I believe, so I want to say he was
Speaker 11: he was all state and baseball.
Speaker 1: He'll he'll know, and I'm sure he's gonna get mad
Speaker 1: at me.
Speaker 2: One of these days. Is to give us a picture.
Speaker 2: We're gonna put Brandon Ray's photo up there too. We'll
Speaker 2: let's put his up there at some point, We're just
Speaker 2: going to walk through and just put it up there.
Speaker 11: So yeah, so yeah, the Green Apples have a couple
Speaker 11: of indie guys. So Will is from Center Grove and
Speaker 11: then Reed Warner graduated from Greenwood High School, Okay, and
Speaker 11: then the Naturals, which is owned by Kevin Costner, is
Speaker 11: the team that Mike Whitty plays on, and Whitty graduated
Speaker 11: from l n UP on the North Side.
Speaker 2: Now, is that is that the Mic to plays hoop
Speaker 2: with us?
Speaker 1: That's him?
Speaker 2: That's him?
Speaker 1: Unbelievable?
Speaker 2: What is so? What Mike that plays basketball with us
Speaker 2: at South I don't think Cale's played with Mike before,
Speaker 2: has he? Because Mike, Mike's one of those that may
Speaker 2: end up getting taken off the list because we never
Speaker 2: see his ass.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we don't see him. But let me tell you
Speaker 11: about Mike man. He this league nerved him a little bit.
Speaker 11: Seventy five mile per hour pitch limit was no good
Speaker 11: for Mike. But Mike can throw a whiffleball one hundred
Speaker 11: and six miles per hour on the radar he can,
Speaker 11: which makes him one of the most special pitchers in
Speaker 11: the entire world.
Speaker 2: He's awesome, So he was, so he played. He plays
Speaker 2: for a team owned by actor Kevin Costner.
Speaker 1: Correct by Kevin Costner.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so that's kind of the cool thing about Big
Speaker 11: League Whiffle is there's some really big time owners. Like
Speaker 11: the Green Apples are owned by Gary viner Chuck. The
Speaker 11: Atlanta Ballers are owned by Julio Jones and Nelly, which
Speaker 11: is pretty cool. Dude Perfect owns the Dallas Pandas it's
Speaker 11: it's just a whole list of really cool people and
Speaker 11: they show up to games. They come and they sit
Speaker 11: in the owner suite and it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's great. Brenda Dudas of south Ford High School.
Speaker 2: He is the baseball coach and the educator and a
Speaker 2: friend of ours. He's a member of the New York
Speaker 2: Green Apples Big League Whiffle, the world champions as of
Speaker 2: last week, and Dudas is on the Andy Moore Automotive
Speaker 2: Group potline. We'll tell the folks out there, this is
Speaker 2: a deal where you actually sign contracts and get paid too.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So I am I'm on one of the middle
Speaker 11: tiers I make. You know, I signed a two year
Speaker 11: deal and I make about a coaching stipend per year,
Speaker 11: which is pretty cool. And there's some guys that make
Speaker 11: a little more than me. Will smithe included, and then
Speaker 11: you know everywhere in between. So everybody in the league
Speaker 11: is on one to three year deals, which is, you know,
Speaker 11: really cool to be able to say about whiffleball. And
Speaker 11: then once that deal expires, you become a free agent.
Speaker 11: You're subject to trading, you know, being traded at any
Speaker 11: point during your contract. And you know, these are owners
Speaker 11: are really taking it seriously, which I think speaks to
Speaker 11: sort of the rise of all sports like pickleball, darts, cornhole,
Speaker 11: whiffleball is trying to carve out it's it's kind of
Speaker 11: segment in that market.
Speaker 2: So Brendon Dudis is with us. You mentioned there are
Speaker 2: two other dudes. Reid Warner is one from Greenwood. I
Speaker 2: think does he work at Lily? Did I see that accurately?
Speaker 2: That was on the screen? Is that where he works?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 1: I I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's I took it. I took a guess that he
Speaker 2: went to Ron Colly, but he went to Greenwood. High school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a Greenwood. Okay, we all went to U
Speaker 1: Indy together.
Speaker 2: I thought anybody thought the last name of Warner ended
Speaker 2: up going to Ron Colly in high school. But I
Speaker 2: guess I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Warners, the Warner's the guy.
Speaker 11: If you've seen his picture, he looks exactly like Adam
Speaker 11: Driver Kylo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Really hard to miss. Yeah, I think he gets that
Speaker 1: comparison all the time.
Speaker 2: Now, how'd you guys all? Because you got you got
Speaker 2: a couple that are from Saint Louis, one from the
Speaker 2: one those like Blake Mental is from Minnesota, and I mean,
Speaker 2: you guys are kind of all over the map there
Speaker 2: a little bit. How'd you guys? You guys, they just
Speaker 2: all pick you from a pool of layers? Is that?
Speaker 2: And how that happens?
Speaker 11: So now that's where the background comes into play. So
Speaker 11: we're all part of and care deeply about this National
Speaker 11: Whiffle League Association, which is Clean Ball, Yellow Bat, and
Speaker 11: it's actually where we're heading this coming weekend in Saint
Speaker 11: Louis to play that tournament. And the premise behind this
Speaker 11: is that you know, you take an all star team
Speaker 11: from your league.
Speaker 1: And you go to this tournament and compete to.
Speaker 11: Call yourself the you know, the national champion. We've won
Speaker 11: this tournament three times. The two Skibby's, the brother brothers,
Speaker 11: are longtime yellow bat players and then the left lefty,
Speaker 11: Tyler Flackney is another one that's played yellow bat forever.
Speaker 11: Soone we put this team together and they announced the rules,
Speaker 11: you know, yellow bat, base running, fielding. The Green Apples
Speaker 11: shot up the power rankings as a team that had
Speaker 11: a ton of experience playing this style, and we really
Speaker 11: felt like our chances of winning the title were strong
Speaker 11: and went out there and put our you know, put
Speaker 11: our money where our mouth was.
Speaker 2: So who's the governing body of this and do they
Speaker 2: encourage kind of out outrageous fun behavior.
Speaker 11: I would there's probably really no governing bodies, Okay, cool,
Speaker 11: that's run.
Speaker 1: By the players. Yeah. I think that's what's unique about
Speaker 1: whippleball is like from league to league, the rules are.
Speaker 11: So different and the styles are so different, and that's
Speaker 11: why we try to get out there and play as
Speaker 11: many different styles as possible, from unlimited pitch speed to
Speaker 11: lob ball and everywhere in between. So I do think
Speaker 11: like the teams that are able to go out and
Speaker 11: have fun and not take themselves so seriously end up
Speaker 11: lasting longer and having more success because of it, because
Speaker 11: otherwise you're going to burn out and you know, lose
Speaker 11: your cool over it.
Speaker 2: Well, and then the other thing that and that's the
Speaker 2: one thing I didn't notice because there was a lot
Speaker 2: of jumping around and excitement, but it seemed like that
Speaker 2: both teams were all kind of cool with everything. There
Speaker 2: was no jack assery if you will going on there.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, and I can't say that that's the case all
Speaker 11: the time, Like there are games that definitely get pretty intent,
Speaker 11: and you know, we handle it on the field. There's
Speaker 11: typically never umpires out there, so you have to make
Speaker 11: calls yourself, and that leads to arguments, and it's I
Speaker 11: mean the same thing as open gym.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, well, I mean, can you imagine if Michael
Speaker 2: Landis were out there with you guys, it'd be an
Speaker 2: argument every.
Speaker 11: Pitch exactly, and then you know, after the game, you
Speaker 11: squashed it until until we play ball game again.
Speaker 1: So we're all, you know, we're all grown ups about it.
Speaker 2: Man. I love it, though, I I I'm really happy
Speaker 2: for you. I am, and I want to I'm going
Speaker 2: to tell folks out there that. Yeah, I know a
Speaker 2: lot because you went to U India and obviously your
Speaker 2: your circle is rather large, especially you know, high school
Speaker 2: Southport being a baseball coach. But hell of a dude
Speaker 2: right there. Man, I'm so happy for you. And the
Speaker 2: one thing I know about dude is is you work
Speaker 2: your ass off, whether it's wiffle ball, educating, you know,
Speaker 2: baseball coaching at Southport, or a big ass boulder in
Speaker 2: your front yard too. So that also made some news.
Speaker 2: Now you're a Southsider and I'd like drove by to
Speaker 2: see you. I probably like Elvis stalking, but I wanted
Speaker 2: to see this big ass boulder in your front yard
Speaker 2: that gained notoriety a couple of years ago, did it not.
Speaker 1: Massive? Yeah?
Speaker 11: So we're just over a year removed from me finding
Speaker 11: a boulder in the side of my yard and digging
Speaker 11: it up and eventually involving a crane that came out
Speaker 11: and pulled this boulder out in epic fashion, and it
Speaker 11: turned into this entire boulder saga. And now if you're
Speaker 11: on social media, there's four or five guys also digging
Speaker 11: boulders out of their yards. But I mean, we're talking
Speaker 11: like one hundred million views total across a couple different
Speaker 11: videos and kind of launched me into this like unintentional
Speaker 11: content creator, influencer lifestyle. Yeah, you know, I was like, well, shoot,
Speaker 11: I got three hundred thousand followers across the four social
Speaker 11: media pages. I guess I got to start making videos.
Speaker 11: And you know, that's what I've done and sort of
Speaker 11: the premise behind my online personalities just work your ass off, right,
Speaker 11: work as hard.
Speaker 1: As you can, you do grind.
Speaker 11: And if you can't figure something out, you don't know
Speaker 11: how to do it, then then go figure it out,
Speaker 11: you know, try it, fail and try again.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, and then I had Oliver.
Speaker 11: We had Oliver two and a half years ago, my son,
Speaker 11: And really it all just comes down to just I'm
Speaker 11: hoping my boys, my students, my players all see, you know,
Speaker 11: what a grinder I am, and they see that how
Speaker 11: much you can accomplish and what good things come your
Speaker 11: way if you just refuse to quit.
Speaker 1: And so that's kind of my story.
Speaker 2: I tell people this all the time, and then I
Speaker 2: think they kind of look at me as a jackass
Speaker 2: and disregard anything I say. Most of the time. Dude,
Speaker 2: it's but I say, this is the type of leader
Speaker 2: that you want in education and in sports in Indiana,
Speaker 2: for youth sports and education, You're it. You're like, you know,
Speaker 2: people all the time kind of cuss about the younger generation,
Speaker 2: but you're exactly what all of us old schoolers talk about,
Speaker 2: what we went through and what is necessary today. You
Speaker 2: are perfect for that mold too. And I try to
Speaker 2: tell everybody that that may not know you, because a
Speaker 2: lot of people do know you, But I try to
Speaker 2: tell everybody that because your role and what you do
Speaker 2: is perfect as an educator and a coach and just
Speaker 2: a good overall dude. That's what people are looking for.
Speaker 1: Thank you, John, You know, I appreciate that.
Speaker 11: I feel like I'm like getting to that crossroads in
Speaker 11: my career trying to figure out exactly where to take
Speaker 11: that role and where I'm best you know, where I'm
Speaker 11: best served in terms of you know, being a leader
Speaker 11: and stuff like that, and so just still trying to
Speaker 11: figure stuff out like that. But you know, people like
Speaker 11: you saying things like that really means a lot to me.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The motivation, It's not like you need my motivation or
Speaker 2: you know the motivation of the friends around you that
Speaker 2: we see all the time to tell you this, but
Speaker 2: you just you show what you do now. I did
Speaker 2: want to ask you about the boulder that people think
Speaker 2: that was like the movie in Sino Man. What was
Speaker 2: the big trendy thing behind the boulder in your front yard?
Speaker 11: So it's like and Sino Man came up so many
Speaker 11: times in the comment section.
Speaker 1: I've never seen this movie and I had to look
Speaker 1: it up and I.
Speaker 11: Was like, oh yeah, So between in Sino Man, I
Speaker 11: mean tons of conspiracy theories, dinosaur, a, a ufo, you
Speaker 11: name it. Just I feel like the comment section kind
Speaker 11: of brought together like a couple of corners of the
Speaker 11: Internet that all sort of started arguing about it, calling
Speaker 11: me an idiot, what what a waste of time and money,
Speaker 11: telling me what to do with it, telling me how dumb.
Speaker 1: I was for trying certain things.
Speaker 11: Uh. And it was just a perfect storm of a
Speaker 11: comment section in terms of, you know, people feeling like
Speaker 11: they wanted to put their input in there, and that's
Speaker 11: what I think ultimately led to it taking off the
Speaker 11: way it did.
Speaker 2: So is that what kind of is it igneous or sedimentary?
Speaker 2: I know it's not volcanic, What kind of rock is it?
Speaker 1: So now you're.
Speaker 2: Ever learned in earth science, is like a lava rock.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what was sitting in is volcanics,
Speaker 2: lava rock, there's a word for it, Runny, go ahead,
Speaker 2: just help us here.
Speaker 1: And so you're onto something. It's some sort of granite, right.
Speaker 2: I said, sedimentary or igneous. I thought that's like too,
Speaker 2: I remember, yeah, But what.
Speaker 11: I do know about this is being where we are,
Speaker 11: it's probably a glacial erratic, right, So the glaciers passed
Speaker 11: over this area when they you know, started to melt
Speaker 11: and formed lakes and stuff, and sometimes the rocks were
Speaker 11: stuck inside there and they just dropped them off. And
Speaker 11: that's really the only way to explain a ten thousand
Speaker 11: pound rock sitting in my yard here, Indiana. But yeah,
Speaker 11: it's like it's a few different types. But I think
Speaker 11: it's a form of granite and it's got you know,
Speaker 11: a bunch of different rocks kind of smashed together, and
Speaker 11: it's pretty then cool. It's a piece of history, for sure,
Speaker 11: it is. And it's a conversation.
Speaker 2: Piece, tremendous. I think it's about the same age as
Speaker 2: good Haul down there at you, Indy, Isn't.
Speaker 1: It something like that? A couple of years, give me you.
Speaker 2: Brenda Dudas of Southport and Big League with when DoD
Speaker 2: you guys back at it again with the Green Apples.
Speaker 11: So Green Apples get back out there in October. So
Speaker 11: we're done with the regular season, which is a certain
Speaker 11: rule set.
Speaker 1: And then what picks up from.
Speaker 11: October to you know, early spring is the offseason tournament circuit,
Speaker 11: so we travel to places like Scottsdale, Arizona's, Saint Louis,
Speaker 11: Dallas and a few other cities will probably put on
Speaker 11: the schedule and just sort of do like a tour,
Speaker 11: so to speak.
Speaker 1: So get a few weeks off of that.
Speaker 11: But now we're focused on Circle City with Fule and
Speaker 11: hopefully going and winning our fourth and record setting national
Speaker 11: title with Circle City.
Speaker 2: So I also gather that you will be unavailable for Sunday.
Speaker 1: You've gathered that correctly.
Speaker 2: Hey, I tell you what we had twelve yesterday and
Speaker 2: then the old guy Landis was trying to shut us down,
Speaker 2: being out guy at seven o'clock on Saturday night. We
Speaker 2: still cobble together. Well, we've got some dudes at one in.
Speaker 2: We got some players that want in on the thread. Here.
Speaker 11: The group we got we got to get them in, man,
Speaker 11: telling me a good group. Let's just say, if you
Speaker 11: see me on Sunday, I will not be a very
Speaker 11: happy person because that means we we lost a lot
Speaker 11: of games on Saturday that we shouldn't have.
Speaker 1: So if all goes well, you will not see me
Speaker 1: on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Well, I will say this. I'm a very good motivator.
Speaker 2: I'm motivated Jason Wiseman to open up yesterday after Kevin
Speaker 2: Julian took out five gallons of fluid from his swollen knee.
Speaker 2: So if I can do that, I think I can
Speaker 2: motivate anybody to get at you.
Speaker 11: Listen, man, when when the consequence is that JMV gets
Speaker 11: on air and drags your name to the public, and
Speaker 11: your boss has come to you and say, dude, this,
Speaker 11: why is J ANDV talking so much crap about you?
Speaker 11: Then you tend to get the keys and open up
Speaker 11: the gym.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yes, that doesn't break the backboard either, That's exactly it. Hey, buddy,
Speaker 2: we're proud of you. You're great dude, great friend. And
Speaker 2: we loved watching last week The New York Green Apples,
Speaker 2: And thanks for telling the story. Man, it's very interesting.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you more than you know and maybe maybe
Speaker 2: we see you coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, John, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2: You got that. Brendan Dudis right there Southport High School
Speaker 2: baseball coach. He's an educator and if you could not
Speaker 2: tell that is Caleb can a test to this. A
Speaker 2: fantastic dude.
Speaker 6: He's awesome man.
Speaker 5: So blessed in my year here living in India to
Speaker 5: cross paths with him.
Speaker 6: He's so cool.
Speaker 2: He is a great guy. And we got to drag
Speaker 2: around Mike Landis too for the better part of twenty minutes,
Speaker 2: which always makes me happy.
Speaker 6: The group chat's loving it out.
Speaker 2: Why don't your guys just cancel? It's seven o'clock and
Speaker 2: you don't have enough? Yeah, man, I wish you guys.
Speaker 2: See here's the other thing too. You know how many
Speaker 2: people I hear from on social media all the time
Speaker 2: that want to be a part of this too. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you're going to have to replace. I mean, Dormelio is
Speaker 2: one thing, because he's injured. I don't know about Landis man,
Speaker 2: and I made Jason Wiseman come in. They literally drained
Speaker 2: Kevin Julian the orthopedic surgeon drained about three gallons out
Speaker 2: of his knee the day prior, and he still came
Speaker 2: in and opened up. Well done. We got to ask
Speaker 2: some ballsy dudes out there. Let me tell you now,
Speaker 2: quick break will come back. That is our good friend Brendan.
Speaker 2: Do this right there and you could tell uh, fantastic dude,
Speaker 2: Southport baseball coach, educator Big Boulder in his front yard
Speaker 2: on the south side, massive influencer. I did not know
Speaker 2: he had all those followers social media wise, and most
Speaker 2: importantly a really good dude and friend of ours. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break will come back. Stephen Holder is going to
Speaker 2: join us at the top of the hour. You guys
Speaker 2: feel like you need a weather update, We got it
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 4: The ride with JMV.
Speaker 2: You guys can stick that too. Seriously, you guys want
Speaker 2: to stick that stick that one where the sun don't
Speaker 2: shine that.
Speaker 4: He three five and one oh seven five the fan.
Speaker 2: The Green Apples and our good friend Brendan Dudas of
Speaker 2: south Ford. So you see Weiseman mentioned this in our
Speaker 2: text group. He said, hey Dudas, when did the Green
Speaker 2: Apples play again? Aka? When are you going to be
Speaker 2: unable to open the GM. That's that's exactly right. Wiseman's
Speaker 2: got to do it again on Sunday.
Speaker 12: And if you were listening to JFV to his live read,
Speaker 12: and that's why I was laughing right there, cracking up
Speaker 12: back here about that, because that is so funny.
Speaker 6: It's so true.
Speaker 2: I know what, and you know you would think that
Speaker 2: I would want to I I played my last five times.
Speaker 2: I've been horrible five times in a row now, so
Speaker 2: I probably need to rest. But we got to go
Speaker 2: so and then think about it too, because of the
Speaker 2: green apples and that success and the dudas has been gone.
Speaker 2: And then I mentioned Wiseman got injured because he played
Speaker 2: at the ARC and that thing, that tournament and then
Speaker 2: had like three gallons of fluid taken off his knee.
Speaker 2: But he's still opened up. Yesterday, good group yesterday though. Caleb,
Speaker 2: And the one thing we know, Caleb producing the show.
Speaker 2: He's going to be everywhere I go to play, and
Speaker 2: there's no wiggle room around that. He goes. I don't
Speaker 2: even ask you anymore. I just go, yeah, we got
Speaker 2: two here.
Speaker 6: What you're doing? The free throw thing coming up.
Speaker 2: Right, I gotta do that coming up on Saturday. So yeah,
Speaker 2: they're having games out there at the State Fair. This
Speaker 2: is from eleven into one. And during the halftime of
Speaker 2: these games, I have a free throw shooting contest and
Speaker 2: my sites are bent right now, so I got to
Speaker 2: find Speaking of groove, I've got to fight a little
Speaker 2: bit of groove here to that my sights. You should
Speaker 2: my sites are bent, and you could tell, folks, I
Speaker 2: loved it yesterday, even though I sucked that it was
Speaker 2: about one hundred and five degrees in that gym.
Speaker 6: Can you can you take the audience?
Speaker 2: I love it, and it explained why you love a
Speaker 2: hot gym more I love anybody I've ever met. I
Speaker 2: want I always feel that when you're playing something that
Speaker 2: you have to sweat profusely, and in the winter time
Speaker 2: most other times of the year, I've got to wear
Speaker 2: long sleeve shirts and all that crap. And I want
Speaker 2: to play someplace where you go in and you're wearing
Speaker 2: a tank top and shorts and you are sweating your
Speaker 2: ass off. I love that, and I want to get loose.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm fifty six and a half, so there's
Speaker 2: no better time than right now for me to completely
Speaker 2: get loose. I just think it feels better. Plus, since
Speaker 2: all good friend and Kurt carries on his watch how
Speaker 2: many calories he burns, I like I coincide. You know,
Speaker 2: yesterday it was like twelve hundred. Last week at Saint
Speaker 2: Jude's it was like thirteen hundred. And then I know
Speaker 2: the calorie deficit that I'm working from on a Sunday
Speaker 2: when I go to work drinking. So I know that,
Speaker 2: so I kind of set the table.
Speaker 6: You need an Apple watch.
Speaker 5: Actually, I'm going to retract that because I can't imagine
Speaker 5: you will.
Speaker 6: All kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I have a watch at home that
Speaker 2: will will show my cat. I may not.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit older, but I thought maybe it
Speaker 2: would show the calories burned. But I don't know if
Speaker 2: I can wear a watch playing basketball. That's a little weird.
Speaker 2: That's why I let Kurt wear it. It's not weird
Speaker 2: to him, and then he can just tell me, hell,
Speaker 2: he's not. I'm assuming that I'm somewhere in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: But now, seriously, that was that was fun as hell.
Speaker 2: Good conversation. Brenda Dudis the podcast one oh seventy five,
Speaker 2: thefan dot Com Andy's suggests that the boulder in his
Speaker 2: front yard is igneous. So I was pretty much right.
Speaker 2: That's like the one thing that I remember from Earth
Speaker 2: science is sedimentary, igneous, and volcanic. Are there? They're only three?
Speaker 5: Right, igneous. I'm looking up the definition of please do
Speaker 5: this rock. Igneous rocks are formed through the cooling and
Speaker 5: solidific solidification of magma or lava. So you're telling me
Speaker 5: the rock that was sitting in Brendan Dudas's yard in.
Speaker 2: Southwest how is that no volcanic rock? That's not no volcanics,
Speaker 2: not a form of rock. No, Like, that's that's basically.
Speaker 5: Igneous, okay, like, but it's just it's cooled down into
Speaker 5: a solid form.
Speaker 2: So it's probably not volcanic here in Central Indiana.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna guess not, but maybe I'm wrong. Ah, I
Speaker 5: think that's a safe guess. Metamorphic is the third one metamorphic.
Speaker 5: Sedimentary metamorphic that's metamorphic.
Speaker 2: Are good for Informer Major League catcher Tucker Barnhart and
Speaker 2: I have this at home. If you remember when I
Speaker 2: got knocked down last spring and it took me forever
Speaker 2: to get up, and I feel like I play I
Speaker 2: play like I'm younger than fifty six. I fall down
Speaker 2: like about eighty six, and then I get back up
Speaker 2: like I'm about one hundred and six. So when I
Speaker 2: fell down back in the spring, Tucker Barnhart sent me
Speaker 2: as a gift a life Alert watch. Would the life
Speaker 2: alert I have not checked? Does that have a calorie
Speaker 2: burnoff on the life alert? So here's the problem with that, Tucker.
Speaker 2: If it gets hit and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: the cops come out or the ambulance or first responders
Speaker 2: come out because they think that my health is compromised. Right,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can play that wearing basketball
Speaker 2: life alert. I got one. It's all my bed at
Speaker 2: us right next to me at home. So you're saying
Speaker 2: that life alert yeah, because he's saying life alert count
Speaker 2: shirt calories, I don't know if it does or not.
Speaker 2: I'd have to check.
Speaker 5: Because the life alert I remember is those commercials where
Speaker 5: it's like what eight hundred You know, I didn't know
Speaker 5: they were making smart watches now, and I was going
Speaker 5: to give it to my mom, but my mom would
Speaker 5: be tapping that thing every five minutes every time.
Speaker 2: Oh I wait a minute, I can't wait for this
Speaker 2: dish all that's scared. I can't do that. You know,
Speaker 2: I was good because she actually fell a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks back and then it was like three in the
Speaker 2: morning and somebody down in Orangeburg had to come get
Speaker 2: her up. And that scares the absolute crap out of me.
Speaker 2: This is true, and this is sincere. That scares the
Speaker 2: crap out of me. And you know, luckily, she's got
Speaker 2: some folks down in Orangeburg that will help. I think
Speaker 2: she's run awful lot of folks that also would help.
Speaker 2: But she also has a lot of friends that would help.
Speaker 2: But if she had the life alert, then that thing
Speaker 2: would be going off all the time. I'm afraid for everything. No,
Speaker 2: I don't know. The dog jumped up here on him.
Speaker 2: You know me, you know, here comes EMTs. So I
Speaker 2: I've been hesitant to give and I thought about that before.
Speaker 2: Maybe one that hangs around the neck or I don't know.
Speaker 6: Well, I have to sum at some point.
Speaker 5: I don't know if we have enough time for this,
Speaker 5: because it's a long story, probably all air I have
Speaker 5: to tell you. But Moe, who you met this week,
Speaker 5: and my dad he has an Apple watch and he
Speaker 5: struggles to work that thing.
Speaker 6: But one time. He was subbing in a gym class
Speaker 6: and they have.
Speaker 5: A feature on your Apple Watch where if like you
Speaker 5: move really quickly, like it thinks you've fell or like
Speaker 5: something happened right, which is kind of what you're talking about. Uh,
Speaker 5: And yeah, he called an ambulance on accident because he
Speaker 5: was in gym class subbing and like moved quickly, and
Speaker 5: he didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 6: He didn't know why the medics showed up for anything.
Speaker 2: See, I'm afraid that's my mom would have empts out there,
Speaker 2: I think every day. By the way, you and Moe
Speaker 2: have father and son mustaches. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 12: We do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get it from him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, father and son mustaches. If case you were
Speaker 2: not privety this earlier, I got a chance to meet
Speaker 2: Mo and Betsy for the first time on Saturday before
Speaker 2: the JMV takeover. You brought them in studio down Sewage
Speaker 2: Row down there on on number one and I met
Speaker 2: with them before we started the JMV takeoff, and you
Speaker 2: sent us to Aias, which was Iris. You did not
Speaker 2: ask for Dom though, correct, because I bet Dom was there.
Speaker 2: Somebody tell me if you still go to Irias and
Speaker 2: I know everybody does. I'm assuming Dom is still there.
Speaker 2: I told you to ask for Don Dommy is a
Speaker 2: tremendous dude, and there are a lot of There are
Speaker 2: a lot of great places around. You could not go
Speaker 2: wrong with Iria's Iozo's either, you know, on the south
Speaker 2: side of downtown I'm Meridian, or even down in for
Speaker 2: there's an Iozo's location that is great. But you went
Speaker 2: to Ireas where I told you the great story the
Speaker 2: late great Rick Majeris back when I was at the
Speaker 2: other station was my college basketball analyst weekly and this
Speaker 2: goes back to six when Blake was born. Majeris sent
Speaker 2: me just a massive amount of clothes for Blake, just
Speaker 2: like baby clothes for Blake. And then he came to
Speaker 2: Indy and we went to Iria's and I've never seen
Speaker 2: anything like it. My man. We sat in one of
Speaker 2: these lounge chairs and he was just he was going
Speaker 2: at it. But some of the greatest basketball stories I've
Speaker 2: ever heard of my life from rickmcgeris during that time.
Speaker 2: And if anybody knows Rick Majeri's from Ball State or
Speaker 2: you know, Utah or Marquette or whatever. Was just a
Speaker 2: glorious and incredibly missed basketball personality. He was awesome back then.
Speaker 2: But once upon a time, Iria's was a Rick Macgeira spot.
Speaker 2: Iria's the late Robin Miller. That's a Robin Miller spot
Speaker 2: as well. We always went there. But I mentioned you
Speaker 2: go and ask for Dom. I'm assuming on a Saturday
Speaker 2: night that Dom was probably there so and I'm assuming
Speaker 2: if you guys can tell me if if Dom is
Speaker 2: still often there. I used to see Dom when I
Speaker 2: would take the Blake to Ron Colley in the mornings.
Speaker 2: I would see Dom over at the Speedway at Southport
Speaker 2: in Gray every morning getting coffee. But awesome, Irias, did
Speaker 2: you like it?
Speaker 6: I loved it?
Speaker 2: What'd you go with?
Speaker 6: How I went to Chick Alfredo?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get the j mv Iria's Lasagna is the bomb.
Speaker 2: My mom got that. There you go, Yeah, shout out
Speaker 2: to Dom and Irias. Awesome place over there. Quick break,
Speaker 2: The Colts have a depth chart released. We'll talk to
Speaker 2: Stephen Holder about that and then get the joint workouts
Speaker 2: they're going to have coming up here with New England
Speaker 2: in New England and then the matchup coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind four thirty the Colts Pregame Huddle starts
Speaker 2: with me and the band's back together again and we're
Speaker 2: gonna get more. Rick Venturi coming up this year on
Speaker 2: the Colts Pregame Huddle will be all about that four
Speaker 2: thirty until six thirty, That is on Thursday, ahead of
Speaker 2: preseason game number one. And tomorrow the guy that's going
Speaker 2: to be the voice of the pregame pre games themselves,
Speaker 2: Greg Rigshaw, is going to join us and we'll talk
Speaker 2: about that with Greg. I think it's Greg and Rick
Speaker 2: and Alera Olverton doing the pregame TV stuff. Greg joins
Speaker 2: us coming up tomorrow. All right, quick break, we'll come back.
Speaker 2: Stephen hold the top of the hours. Stay right there.
Speaker 4: It's ninety three five one seven five, the fin the
Speaker 4: Ride with JMV Dude three five and one oh seven
Speaker 4: five the fan I should mention too.
Speaker 2: Coming up on Saturday, the free throw shooting competition we're
Speaker 2: having between games out at the Indiana State Fair. You
Speaker 2: can win four packs of tickets to the State Fair.
Speaker 2: That is on Saturday. Now. Coming up tomorrow night at
Speaker 2: the Indiana State Fair on the free stage, it is
Speaker 2: Clayton Anderson, Friend of the show, Clayton Anderson in concert.
Speaker 2: So if you're out there tomorrow night to see Clayton,
Speaker 2: make sure you tell Clayton we said hello. That is
Speaker 2: coming up tomorrow night from Elvis JMV. People that want
Speaker 2: to fire the head coach with a fever seem to
Speaker 2: forget that she got them to an ot game to
Speaker 2: get to the WNBA finals without Clark and a bunch
Speaker 2: of scrubs pulled off the waiver wire. Most people forgot
Speaker 2: because they checked out when Caitlin got hurt. So many
Speaker 2: of their issues on the floor, it's not coaching, it's
Speaker 2: on them now, the off the floor, after the game
Speaker 2: and after the ejection, that's on her. You have to
Speaker 2: go hard and make sure that your players understand that
Speaker 2: you're with them. It didn't act like that. They understood that,
Speaker 2: And that was easy too, because that Carrington foul was reckless. Okay,
Speaker 2: sure she didn't want to knock her, Maybe she didn't
Speaker 2: want to knock her out, but it was reckless. The
Speaker 2: ejection was deserved, and if I'm Stephanie White right now,
Speaker 2: everything is coming at her, everything is blaming her. The
Speaker 2: one thing you have to do is make sure sure
Speaker 2: that your team is wound tight and together. Caitlin Clark
Speaker 2: does a great job of making sure she owns basketball
Speaker 2: situations and she keeps things basketball wise. Stephanie White missed
Speaker 2: the mark on Saturday. At the very least, you got
Speaker 2: to think about who the hell cares about Carrington's feelings
Speaker 2: or the feelings of anybody else, or now everybody's thinking
Speaker 2: that she doesn't like the thoughts and the outspokenness of
Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham. It doesn't matter. She's in your inner circle
Speaker 2: in the huddle. Back her up completely, Back your team
Speaker 2: up completely, because you're going to catch blame regardless, but
Speaker 2: you want to make sure you keep everybody together that
Speaker 2: just missed the mark on Saturday. It quick break. We'll
Speaker 2: come back Stephen Holder top of the hour, or the
Speaker 2: Colts have a depth chart, we'll go over that. The
Speaker 2: Colts on the road in New England, joint practices and
Speaker 2: then a preseason game coming up on Thursday from ESPN.
Speaker 2: Steven Holder is going to join us. Coming up on
Speaker 2: the other side. It's ninety three to five and one
Speaker 2: oh seven the Fan.
Speaker 4: The ride with JMV.
Speaker 10: It's at Drugs Danny every game, so it's problem.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Ninety three five and one oh seven five,
Speaker 4: the fan busy rest of the week. Hurst and LaMonte
Speaker 4: is with me. Coming up on Friday at Pivot Downtown.
Speaker 4: You know, we love the Pivot Balcony bar inside Hiatt
Speaker 4: Place Downtown. Coming up on Friday, that's before.
Speaker 2: The Fever game and is always a fantastic time. They
Speaker 2: played Dallas on Friday night. We shall be down there,
Speaker 2: I believe. Did we not talk to Debbie and then.
Speaker 10: John?
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're gonna love the dialogue I have right now.
Speaker 2: If we do that on Friday, hopefully that changes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they may go I don't know. I don't know all
Speaker 2: about that. It's it's really simple, though. That was egregious
Speaker 2: enough to be incredibly outspoken in the backing of your
Speaker 2: team and player. That's easy. You don't go into that
Speaker 2: and go, well, yeah, I don't know they meant to do.
Speaker 2: And I mean it was around the neck and reckless
Speaker 2: regardless of what anybody else thinks. And listen, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have everybody coming at you regardless. You don't want that
Speaker 2: with your team, you know, want any misguided feelings regarding
Speaker 2: those in your huddle. Simple to me. Fever and New
Speaker 2: York coming up tomorrow, night, so the technical was rescinded.
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark sits on seven Right now now Bill Simmons
Speaker 2: talking about the leadership or lack thereof the WNBA and
Speaker 2: there has to be something new is absolutely right now.
Speaker 2: I've been talking about that and the TV you know,
Speaker 2: this being all over the map. It's not great. More
Speaker 2: on that coming up meantime on the Andy Moro Automotive
Speaker 2: Group podline, getting said, I'm assuming to head out to
Speaker 2: New England for a couple of joint practices and then
Speaker 2: a gathering for a preseason game number one on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Stephen Holder joins us. Anything that you gather from the
Speaker 2: release of the official depth charts earlier today with the
Speaker 2: Cults of Mind Steven.
Speaker 10: Not particularly. I think there are a well, I guess
Speaker 10: it was an admission that this is, you know, a
Speaker 10: backup quarterback battle. That was an acknowledgment of that, so
Speaker 10: they stayed out of the weeds on that one. There
Speaker 10: are a few veterans who are I think listed above
Speaker 10: some younger players where they're just kind of doing them
Speaker 10: a solid on that. I feel like out of respect
Speaker 10: that the younger player and a lot of those instances
Speaker 10: is actually ahead you know, and so I think one
Speaker 10: example would be better at linebacker, for example, I think
Speaker 10: he's in their top three linebackers right now. It did
Speaker 10: not reflect that if you look at the depth chart
Speaker 10: that they put out today. But that's not that unusual.
Speaker 10: I'm looking forward here as we're talking. Yeah, that's not
Speaker 10: totally unusual. But for the first depth chart, you know,
Speaker 10: but I think there are some things there that we
Speaker 10: know are not going to remain that way, if that
Speaker 10: makes sense, And that's an example of it.
Speaker 2: Do you know where do you point the finger the
Speaker 2: first bought the first position, where you go, all right,
Speaker 2: this doesn't look ground obviously with me, we talked about
Speaker 2: this before. It's wide receiver. But what do you look
Speaker 2: at first and say, yet, hopefully either this is a
Speaker 2: lot better than what we gather right now or there
Speaker 2: is some marked improvement at some point.
Speaker 10: I think I think linebacker, I'll stick with that position.
Speaker 10: I think they got they're they're a little they're definitely
Speaker 10: thin there. It's kind of interesting. I asked lou An Arumo,
Speaker 10: defensive coordinator on Saturday, about that position. His answer was
Speaker 10: actually kind of honest, for refreshingly honest, and he admitted
Speaker 10: that like, you know what, we don't really have a
Speaker 10: whole lot of guys locked in there yet, and because
Speaker 10: they keep rotating guys in with the first team, which
Speaker 10: tells me they don't know who their starters are, right,
Speaker 10: And so I asked him about that, and he said, well,
Speaker 10: you know, I think we're going to end up playing
Speaker 10: a lot of guys there. And he said, you know,
Speaker 10: we may just have guys kind of do what they're
Speaker 10: best at. So I asked him, does that mean you're
Speaker 10: going to have guys sort of specialize in certain roles,
Speaker 10: you know, not you know, not jack of all trades.
Speaker 10: What's the opposite of that, right, Just guys who are
Speaker 10: just really good at certain things and rotating in and out.
Speaker 10: And so he suggested that that's what it's going to
Speaker 10: look like. And he said the way his justification was
Speaker 10: for it was, Look, we don't want to overwhelm young guys,
Speaker 10: so if you can kind of give them a specific role,
Speaker 10: they maybe can lean into that and do well at that.
Speaker 10: So that doesn't make sense, but I think we all
Speaker 10: know that. I think in the best case scenario, you'd
Speaker 10: like to have your two or three guys and those
Speaker 10: are your guys and you know they're going to play
Speaker 10: all the reps. That is not that's the way you
Speaker 10: structure it. The way he's talking about it is not
Speaker 10: the way you draw it up. So that would be
Speaker 10: out of necessity rather than something that they just prefer.
Speaker 2: So we heard the news we're getting Cam Taylor Britt
Speaker 2: going back to Friday, And you know, obviously this stems
Speaker 2: from a situation going back at the beginning of the
Speaker 2: year before he was signed here. How had he been
Speaker 2: performing up until that point and in this case missing
Speaker 2: the first game of the season, being able to do
Speaker 2: all the preseason stuff, but missing that first game obviously
Speaker 2: against the Ravens.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that he has actually been pretty solid.
Speaker 10: They like him right now. I would say if the
Speaker 10: season started today, Oh well, if the season started today,
Speaker 10: he couldn't play. But just throw that out for a minute, right,
Speaker 10: if the season started today, I think Kim Taylor Britt
Speaker 10: is their number three outside corner. So if something happens
Speaker 10: to Sauce Gardner Mooney Ward, I think he'd beat the
Speaker 10: first guy off the bench. That's how I envisioned that
Speaker 10: right now. The other corner being Justin Wally in the slot.
Speaker 10: So that's the way I see it at the moment,
Speaker 10: and they feel good about that because I think they've
Speaker 10: they've had a lack of depth at corner for a
Speaker 10: couple of years now, right, And you saw it last
Speaker 10: year just because the number of injuries they had, the
Speaker 10: death really got tested. I mean they pulled a couple
Speaker 10: guys off the couch last year. They made that trade
Speaker 10: for Makai Blackman, for example. He played a lot of snaps,
Speaker 10: probably more than way more than he should have, right,
Speaker 10: And so they have this year you get Wally back
Speaker 10: in the fold coming back from his injury. I know
Speaker 10: he's in the slot, but just generally speaking, that's another body.
Speaker 10: You get Cam Taylor Britt as a great example of
Speaker 10: the kind of signing where it gives you quality depth.
Speaker 10: They did not have quality depths last year, you know,
Speaker 10: And so I think this is definitely a step in
Speaker 10: the right direction. And then you have some younger guys
Speaker 10: who are fighting it out and some of them will
Speaker 10: earn some playing time or earned rosters, and then others
Speaker 10: may have to catch on elsewhere. But there's good competition
Speaker 10: back there. But Camp Taylor Britt is the guy I
Speaker 10: think behind those two big.
Speaker 2: Name veterans, Stephen Holder of ESPN on ESPN dot coms,
Speaker 2: and the Andy Moro Auto Motive Group potline. We're not
Speaker 2: talking about super notable names, certainly in free agency, but
Speaker 2: you know some of those defensive guys from Key to
Speaker 2: Clemens to Tillery, guys like that. How are the veterans
Speaker 2: at those defensive positions? Anybody else you want to add
Speaker 2: in performing so far in camp From your estimation.
Speaker 10: So Ardine Key is actually kind of interesting. I had
Speaker 10: sort of meager expectations for him. Look what we see
Speaker 10: out there, even when they have pads on, it's not
Speaker 10: necessarily the real thing. But I would say he has
Speaker 10: had a presence. I would say he've noticed him. And
Speaker 10: I do think that's promising. I think he is the
Speaker 10: guy who's probably been outside of lat too. I would
Speaker 10: be the guy who's been the most consistent a lot too.
Speaker 10: Starting to come on and we're starting to see him flash.
Speaker 10: He's really creating consistent pressure. I like his chances to
Speaker 10: take a step this year. I think how big of
Speaker 10: a step he can take does? I think depend on
Speaker 10: the guys around him to a degree, right, And so
Speaker 10: that's going to depend on the Forrest Buckner becoming the
Speaker 10: Forest Buckner again. Right, Yesterday was a day where I
Speaker 10: started to see him flash, and that has been a
Speaker 10: long time coming. I hadn't really seen a lot of that,
Speaker 10: and he's been limited. But anyway, back to those other
Speaker 10: guys that free agent group you talked about, Clemons, I mean,
Speaker 10: Clemens has been out there with some of the first
Speaker 10: team reps. I think he's I think he's going to
Speaker 10: end up being a little bit of a of an
Speaker 10: edge setter. Not sexy and not a position where you're
Speaker 10: going to get a lot of numbers, but he's never
Speaker 10: had numbers in his career. I think that's kind of
Speaker 10: been his role. A guy who you know, set that
Speaker 10: edge against the run and and you know, create create
Speaker 10: some pass rush when asked. I think that's probably going
Speaker 10: to be his role. Like we just talked about with linebackers,
Speaker 10: this could be a situational position. The guy this is
Speaker 10: not a free agent, but the guy I kind of
Speaker 10: like and I want to see more of, is George Gumms,
Speaker 10: the rookie defensive end from Florida. He actually has I
Speaker 10: think flashed pretty consistently, and I am very very intrigued.
Speaker 10: I think in the preseason that's a guy you better
Speaker 10: circle circle his name and look for him on Thursday night.
Speaker 10: He's gonna play a lot and we're gonna find out
Speaker 10: if he can do it under the lights. I mean,
Speaker 10: he's been doing it against the backups, and when they
Speaker 10: put him out there with the third team, he just
Speaker 10: wrecks the whole thing. So the second team is a
Speaker 10: much better measurement for him, and he's flashed there too.
Speaker 10: So will he get some first team reps? I don't
Speaker 10: know about that, but I think he's fighting to show
Speaker 10: that he deserves from playing and he's going to have
Speaker 10: opportunities to prove that.
Speaker 2: Steven the offensive line, certainly, the starters we note and
Speaker 2: we know, but what about what is always necessary really
Speaker 2: with any team, but certainly magnified with his team. What
Speaker 2: about the depth of the offensive line?
Speaker 10: Yeah, it always gets tested, right, I mean I remember
Speaker 10: that year, what was it like, four or five years
Speaker 10: ago where all five guys played all seventeen games. I mean,
Speaker 10: that's that's a one in a million, right, that just
Speaker 10: doesn't happen. So I think the question is, so they
Speaker 10: have they have some decent depth. I mean they have
Speaker 10: the rookie Jalen Farmer is going to you know, gonna
Speaker 10: be a guy who can rotate a guard. Dalton Tucker
Speaker 10: can certainly give him a hand there tackle, and I'm
Speaker 10: looking at it here just to make sure I'm not
Speaker 10: forgetting anybody tackle I feel less secure about. I guess
Speaker 10: it's Blake Freeland out in the set city because they
Speaker 10: don't really have an obvious answer for that swing tackle.
Speaker 10: Luke Tanuda is another guy who has played for them,
Speaker 10: and I would say that wasn't terrible. So I think
Speaker 10: tackle if they have an injury there a little more nervous,
Speaker 10: I would say than in the interior. Center. A few
Speaker 10: questions at center, and Dalton Tucker has been the backup
Speaker 10: center and snapping there, but there have been some mishaps
Speaker 10: in practice, and not all of that has been Anthony
Speaker 10: Richardson's fault. I mean some of that is on Tucker too,
Speaker 10: So I think they don't really have a dedicated backup center.
Speaker 10: You know, for a long time, Danny Pincher was kind
Speaker 10: of that guy who you knew like center was his
Speaker 10: strength and he basically was a backup center. But he
Speaker 10: has moved on and so they're trying to piece that
Speaker 10: one together. So they kind of got their fingers crossed.
Speaker 10: I think at center, to be completely honest with.
Speaker 2: You, Stephen Holder of ESPN on ESPN dot com, joint gatherings,
Speaker 2: and then obviously the season game number one coming up
Speaker 2: on Thursday four to thirty is when we get started
Speaker 2: with the Colt pregame huddle coming up on Thursday right
Speaker 2: here in studio in ninety three to five and one
Speaker 2: oh seven five the fans. So I didn't go to
Speaker 2: in depth of this because we basically know what we
Speaker 2: know regarding Anthony Richardson. But has has this been a
Speaker 2: really bad start to training camp for him? Just in
Speaker 2: general terms of how he is playing and not even
Speaker 2: expectations or any of that, but just in general watching him,
Speaker 2: has it gotten worse?
Speaker 10: I think my biggest issue has been just the inconsistency.
Speaker 10: You still see the big throw once in a while,
Speaker 10: right the flash. He's always had that and he's always
Speaker 10: going to be capable of that. But on a play
Speaker 10: to play basis, which is what you need from your backup,
Speaker 10: you don't need flash as much as you just need
Speaker 10: you just need completions, I think with backup quarterback, and
Speaker 10: he's got to I talked to somebody today and the
Speaker 10: feedback was just this, like just get completions and stop,
Speaker 10: you know, don't play hero ball, right he I think
Speaker 10: last year he's trying to win the starting job, and
Speaker 10: so you're out there, you're trying to make plays. You're
Speaker 10: trying to, you know, go give Alec Pears an opportunity
Speaker 10: to make a big play. Well, you're not going to
Speaker 10: be able to do that. Frankly, with the guys he's
Speaker 10: playing with on that second and third team. I mean,
Speaker 10: they're not going to go make, you know, a Randy
Speaker 10: Moss play for you. Those guys just that's not who
Speaker 10: he's playing with, especially with the receiver depth that they
Speaker 10: have right now. So he's just got to not force
Speaker 10: stuff and just take the check down, you know, make
Speaker 10: the easy throw, go to that first read. I mean,
Speaker 10: you know there are times when he's still holding the
Speaker 10: ball trying to go for the big play, and I
Speaker 10: don't think that's what's going to get him this job.
Speaker 10: I think if he wants to have that number two,
Speaker 10: he's just got to throw it to the guy who's
Speaker 10: opening and it's the first read. Throw it to that guy.
Speaker 10: Making the big play is not what they're looking for.
Speaker 10: So I do think that we saw him start to
Speaker 10: settle in on Sunday, and I liked what he did
Speaker 10: in the two minute drive. The two minute drill really
Speaker 10: drove the ball down and had a big completion position
Speaker 10: for a touchdown. That's what you want to see, and
Speaker 10: he has been clutching those situations in the past. But
Speaker 10: he's just got to be more consistent. Is not to
Speaker 10: say Riley Leonard has been great, but on a play
Speaker 10: to blate play to play basis a little more consistent
Speaker 10: than Anthony for sure.
Speaker 2: Stephen Holder of ESPN on ESPN dot com, he is
Speaker 2: on the Andy More Automotive group hootline. The first official
Speaker 2: for training camp depth chart has been released, and Jonathan
Speaker 2: Taylor got the extension, which I think we were relatively
Speaker 2: sure was going to happen considering his attitude and personality
Speaker 2: during this camp prior to that deal. We know about
Speaker 2: him and he's going to have to shoulder some significant
Speaker 2: load once again, which we understand. But what about after him?
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the backup plan and anything of significance
Speaker 2: you gather from the first start of camp.
Speaker 10: Here, the guy that I most want to see in
Speaker 10: preseason is Seth McGowan, the rookie out of Kentucky. This
Speaker 10: kid is very interesting. He is off to a fantastic
Speaker 10: start and the coaches, they, I think are starting to
Speaker 10: buy in on this. You know, DJ Giddens, I never
Speaker 10: saw it last year. He just never really got any momentum,
Speaker 10: No consistent playing time. Obviously, no one gets consistent playing
Speaker 10: time behind Jonathan Taylor, right, So I'm not breaking any
Speaker 10: news there, but I thought there were moments where they
Speaker 10: could have given him Giddings, They could have given him
Speaker 10: a series here, series there, or maybe let him finish
Speaker 10: off a game, and they very rarely did do that.
Speaker 10: So I think that said something about how they feel
Speaker 10: about him or in terms of their level of trust
Speaker 10: with him, whatever it might be. And McGowan, what I
Speaker 10: love is just he is a north to south runner.
Speaker 10: North and south. Okay, one cut and he's gone. You know,
Speaker 10: I don't know that he's the fastest guy, but that's
Speaker 10: not what he brings to the table. He is a
Speaker 10: determined runner. And the Patriots they're gonna have to tackle
Speaker 10: this kid in this preseason game because he is a
Speaker 10: powerful runner. And the other thing that he does is
Speaker 10: he contributes in the passing game. He's been a really
Speaker 10: shorthanded receiver when they've checked it down to him or
Speaker 10: thrown the screens, which they've done. So I think that
Speaker 10: he's done everything you could have expected, I would say,
Speaker 10: from a backup running back and has earned so far.
Speaker 10: At least, I think he's earned the playing time if
Speaker 10: they're miss snaps to have or to be had behind
Speaker 10: Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2: All right, go help the fans out there kind of
Speaker 2: eyeball on Thursday for the first time, what you have
Speaker 2: witnessed in Westfield so far, some of the things we
Speaker 2: haven't discussed that you're looking forward to on Thursday for
Speaker 2: preseason game one without the fact that it's going to
Speaker 2: be over and then you're going to be off the
Speaker 2: preseason game number two. What about preseason game one?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think you're just looking for You're just looking
Speaker 10: for some of those young guys to pop a little bit.
Speaker 10: You know, there's there's opportunity at wide receiver. You know,
Speaker 10: do those guys which of those guys actually play in
Speaker 10: this game? You know, I imagine we'll see you know, the
Speaker 10: likes of Westbrookakine la Quantred Wills hurt. Right now, I
Speaker 10: don't know that he will be back. You won't see
Speaker 10: Josh downs even if he does practice tomorrow, Like, give
Speaker 10: me a break.
Speaker 1: Right, So.
Speaker 10: So anyway, my point is there's just a lot of
Speaker 10: receivers that flash here. I'll play here or play there.
Speaker 10: What I am not seeing is consistency. Westbrook Kine I
Speaker 10: think has come on and I'm starting to see him
Speaker 10: make some plays on a more consistent basis. And I think,
Speaker 10: you know, he's a veteran player, so I'm not surprised
Speaker 10: by that. Ashton Doolin always makes place. Can he do
Speaker 10: it consistently? We'll see. So I think receiver is a
Speaker 10: position to watch. I mentioned McGowan. I really think you're
Speaker 10: gonna love watching McGowan. I really believe that. And then
Speaker 10: you already mentioned this, but that backup offensive line like
Speaker 10: who settles in there and who who really starts to
Speaker 10: show that they are going to take ownership of those
Speaker 10: spots and and be out in front, you know, be
Speaker 10: a front runner for that those roster spots.
Speaker 2: Is there going to be an addition wide receiver wise?
Speaker 2: At some point We've often talked about Keenan Allen, but
Speaker 2: it does seem like that the position is outside of
Speaker 2: his name dwindling, And the reason why we don't come
Speaker 2: up with any other names is because it doesn't seem
Speaker 2: like that there are any other names that are useful
Speaker 2: on that particular list. So, I mean, would you think
Speaker 2: that there they plan on going with what they have?
Speaker 2: Could we all be wrong about this?
Speaker 10: Well, I'm starting to think we are. I will tell
Speaker 10: you the God's honest truth because it doesn't matter now.
Speaker 10: I fully expected that Keenan Allen would have been here. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I don't know, maybe a week ago. Certainly by now,
Speaker 10: I fully expected him to be signed by the Colts.
Speaker 10: It's too obvious, right, they were talking him and saying
Speaker 10: Stycking are close. He knows the offense. So if you
Speaker 10: bring a guy in late, you when you want the
Speaker 10: guy who knows the offense. Right, They did not get
Speaker 10: off to a great start at wide receiver in camp,
Speaker 10: so I mean, what more evidence do you need? Right,
Speaker 10: this is going to happen. I fully expected it was
Speaker 10: going to happen. The fact that it has not happened
Speaker 10: already has me really wondering if maybe they're not going
Speaker 10: to do it, and I trace that I don't. This
Speaker 10: is me talking, Okay, not a source, but I trace
Speaker 10: that back to Chris Pout. I think when we talked
Speaker 10: to him to start training camp, you heard he said
Speaker 10: that he wanted to kind of take a look at
Speaker 10: these guys and see what they had at that position,
Speaker 10: and that is the position he always takes when he
Speaker 10: is reluctant to make a roster move, right, whether it's
Speaker 10: the offensive line a few years ago when we were
Speaker 10: clamoring for them to make a move there, the secondary,
Speaker 10: I think the last couple of years when they entered
Speaker 10: the season and we said, you know, your little Finn,
Speaker 10: it's gonna be a problem, and behold, we were psychic, right,
Speaker 10: so very very reminiscent of situations that we've had in
Speaker 10: recent years. I'm very surprised we're still here.
Speaker 2: I am. It's amazing how often we and the fans
Speaker 2: have been accurate about things that the general manager has
Speaker 2: been inaccurate about.
Speaker 10: Steven Well, I have another thought about it. I'll take
Speaker 10: that a step further. I would go back to the draft.
Speaker 10: So I thought they had a nice draft, but free
Speaker 10: agency decisions affect directly affect your draft, right. What did
Speaker 10: they do in free agency? They locked up their own
Speaker 10: largely Alec Peis and Daniel Jones. They did have some
Speaker 10: defensive signings Cam Tayler Brett you mentioned him too, defensive
Speaker 10: ans Ard and Key Michael Clements, etc. So they did
Speaker 10: some work there, no question. But I think the thing
Speaker 10: we thought they might opt for in free agency and
Speaker 10: did not was a wide receiver, and not doing that,
Speaker 10: I think put them in a spot where, Okay, they
Speaker 10: had to make a choice in the draft, do we
Speaker 10: finish off this defense and get the rest of what
Speaker 10: we need because you needed a starting linebacker, you needed
Speaker 10: a safety, you needed linebackers and all that, right, So
Speaker 10: they had some tough calls to make because they had
Speaker 10: left a lot on their plate for the draft, and
Speaker 10: the receiver got overlooked. Not like they forgot about it,
Speaker 10: but I mean they made a conscious decision not to
Speaker 10: do it because they had other priorities. And that leads
Speaker 10: us to where we are right now. I'm not saying
Speaker 10: it was right or wrong, but I'm just saying choices
Speaker 10: have consequences, right, and so those decisions in previous months
Speaker 10: that is what has led us to where we are
Speaker 10: right now. This didn't just happen overnight. This has been
Speaker 10: months in the making.
Speaker 2: We are on the way for a week number one
Speaker 2: to see a heavy dose, are we not in this
Speaker 2: case of Lakwan Treadwell and of Westbrook A. Kine?
Speaker 10: Right, I guess, I guess. Look, I mean, look Alec Pierce.
Speaker 10: If Alec he's not coming back this week for all
Speaker 10: intents and purposes, right, I mean they got one practice
Speaker 10: and then they got the preseason game. So you're talking
Speaker 10: about they're back on the practice field Saturday. That is
Speaker 10: the earliest unless I'm missing something, that would be the
Speaker 10: earliest you can see Alec Pearce. And I'm not even
Speaker 10: here to suggest that's going to happen, But let's say
Speaker 10: absolute best case scenario, he gets back out there when
Speaker 10: they get back to Indianapolis on Saturday, and he's out there.
Speaker 2: Now, what is that?
Speaker 10: I mean you're talking about You're less than a month out.
Speaker 10: He's not in shape, not in football shape. But it's
Speaker 10: no like knock on him. But he has a lower
Speaker 10: body injury. Right, he's been hurt for like four months. Okay,
Speaker 10: the guy's not going to roll out of bed and
Speaker 10: go run past Sauce Gardner on the first day of practice, right,
Speaker 10: So he has a lot of work to do when
Speaker 10: he gets back. So what version of Alex Pierce? Are
Speaker 10: we getting is my cushion? Is my point?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 10: So you couple that with what is remaining of that unit?
Speaker 10: And no, I don't think this is a good recipe
Speaker 10: with a quarterback who is out here trying to prove
Speaker 10: that last year wasn't a flash in the pan, is
Speaker 10: coming off an achille injury, right, shouldn't you position him
Speaker 10: to do the very best he can do? I don't
Speaker 10: think they've done that. So maybe they will prove me
Speaker 10: wrong and we will see.
Speaker 2: So are they approaching this cautiously when he's much more
Speaker 2: on schedule than a lot of us believe because we're
Speaker 2: well equipped now to just not really believe too much
Speaker 2: as positive surrounding the Colts and decision making in general.
Speaker 2: So do you believe Pierce's situation to be better than
Speaker 2: what we all may believe it ourselves to be right now?
Speaker 10: I mean I would say, yes, they should be careful. Okay,
Speaker 10: they should be prudent. So I will never knock a
Speaker 10: team for being prudent with a star player not in August, Okay,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean? Like, you don't go push
Speaker 10: him out there if he's not ready. However, that being
Speaker 10: said they were projecting early in camp. I mean, is
Speaker 10: it early in camp?
Speaker 1: Still?
Speaker 10: I don't know, So I would say at best we
Speaker 10: have we have missed the the rosier projections. They've missed
Speaker 10: that already.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 10: It doesn't mean it's like the end of the world,
Speaker 10: but I mean it's not. It's not best case scenario
Speaker 10: right now with Alex Pears, it's not that I know
Speaker 10: if it's worst case scenario, but it's not best case.
Speaker 10: So you know, are we over analyzing it? Maybe a
Speaker 10: little bit. He'll be back when he's back. But all
Speaker 10: I canna tell you is each day that goes by,
Speaker 10: I would say that the level of concern grows at
Speaker 10: least a little.
Speaker 2: Steven Holder walking us through familiar territory with the cold
Speaker 2: Andy Moore Automotive Group, pot Lie, Hey, safe travels to
Speaker 2: Foxborough and we'll check it again next week and see
Speaker 2: what the hell happens this week? Okay, Well I'm staying
Speaker 2: home this week, so you are Okay, we'll check out
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 10: We'll I got stuff going on, but I'll be out
Speaker 10: there for the rest of it.
Speaker 2: All right. Well, hey, well, still, you and I gather
Speaker 2: next Monday to see what they will happen regardless. Thanks Alle,
Speaker 2: appreciate you. Stephen Holder. There on the Eddy Moore Automotive
Speaker 2: Group pieline, this date in nineteen eighty four. This is
Speaker 2: well well before our good friend Caleb Zuver and the
Speaker 2: other studio the Cold War classic Red Dawn. Now, since
Speaker 2: that point in time, More than Your Wheelhouse would probably
Speaker 2: be one of the world's crappier remakes. Have you ever
Speaker 2: seen Red Dawn? The crappy remake? But what about the
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four original on the classic No Dice? Do
Speaker 2: you know these names? See Thomas Howell? Do you know
Speaker 2: Jennifer Gray?
Speaker 6: That one actually does sound familiar.
Speaker 2: I won't want Ferris Buelder's day off, dirty dancing, get
Speaker 2: a face redone, don't pretty smoke? How about Leah Thompson?
Speaker 2: She is still smoke? Do you ever see all the
Speaker 2: right moves the football film from the early eighties, Tom Cruise,
Speaker 2: you saw a little uh little side B as I
Speaker 2: like to call it from Leah Thompson back then, And
Speaker 2: if you I don't, If you paused it, you could
Speaker 2: see the more than the side B. You know what
Speaker 2: the side B is? I do? Yeah? All the right
Speaker 2: the late great Patrick Swayze, okay, okay, and Charlie Sheen.
Speaker 5: So all the right moves in Red Dawn are getting added, Yes,
Speaker 5: all the right moves. And I still have any redecked
Speaker 5: one of them off, so.
Speaker 2: I add those red down. The original or not. The
Speaker 2: remake sucked. But this date in eighty four, Red Dawn
Speaker 2: came out and it was probably outside of just being entertaining.
Speaker 2: And we know this to be true. The nineteen eighties
Speaker 2: there's no discussion, there's no debate. Seriously, it is the
Speaker 2: absolute best decade for anything, the best for entertainment, for TV,
Speaker 2: for movies, for music, for everything. Now all you dorks
Speaker 2: out there are going to say, well, what about our
Speaker 2: phones and the smartphones? Yeah, shove them where the sun
Speaker 2: don't shine, because you didn't need them. The eighties by
Speaker 2: far the greatest decade. And this marked a moment and
Speaker 2: entertainment history, this date back in nineteen eighty four, even
Speaker 2: beyond the Cold War classic known as Red Dawn. I'll
Speaker 2: explain that coming up on the other side, I saw
Speaker 2: the fever met with the media. See if you can
Speaker 2: peel a little bit of something something out of that.
Speaker 2: I do not think that the whole situation after the
Speaker 2: game and the presser I've been talking about with Stephanie White.
Speaker 2: I don't think that that was approached a little bit earlier,
Speaker 2: but there is a little bit of dialogue we can play.
Speaker 2: We'll do that coming up on the other side. Going
Speaker 2: to be a busy week. We'll explain. We'll come back
Speaker 2: coming up on the other side. But yes, the weather update,
Speaker 2: we got for you Fox fifty nine, the ride with
Speaker 2: JMV and You're nothing but.
Speaker 9: A chameleon lemonheaded chower Challenge and I'm got for you, buddy.
Speaker 2: You're gonna pay for it to night.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Sir Natty three five and one
Speaker 4: oh seven five the fan, Caleb's over there, I'm John.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, the NBA will officially announce Opening Night in Christmas Day.
Speaker 2: Will Dad Moods Sports and Rooster be accurate? Will the
Speaker 2: Pacers and the Knicks lead off Christmas Day from Madison
Speaker 2: Square Garden or might we get to make fun of
Speaker 2: them for being incredibly misinformed. We'll find out coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Dad Bought Sports and Rooster have a lot riding on this.
Speaker 2: Coming up tomorrow, the official announcement to.
Speaker 6: Be a fly on the wall wherever they are.
Speaker 2: One of these days, it would be nice if we
Speaker 2: find out the type of television content provider that the
Speaker 2: Pacers are going to have. I'm assuming it is going
Speaker 2: to be his own. I'm telling you, don't jack with
Speaker 2: people around here. People are sick and tired of being
Speaker 2: jacked with. That has to be it, right, because we've
Speaker 2: heard absolutely nothing else. Would it be a pleasant surprise
Speaker 2: if it was something incredibly affordable and easy to find, Yes,
Speaker 2: But unfortunately I believe that everybody out there thinks that
Speaker 2: we're going to be jacked with. What was that price
Speaker 2: tech again for the Zone a month? Like thirty four
Speaker 2: thirty four dollars a month. Let me tell you something, Pacers,
Speaker 2: There's zero way people are going to do that around here. None.
Speaker 2: So I would guess the more that you're on national TV,
Speaker 2: the better off. And believe me, they're no bigger fans
Speaker 2: than me, Denari, Quinn, JJ and Eddie and I'll have
Speaker 2: to spend it. But I feel like I've been jacked
Speaker 2: with and be pissy all the way.
Speaker 5: I don't know if we can shine light because the
Speaker 5: Timberwolves finalize their agreement with the Zone, so that's like,
Speaker 5: so what was what was it?
Speaker 2: Do you have it in front of you right here?
Speaker 5: And this is what I'm trying to look but what
Speaker 5: it says here on their website, because there's a frequently
Speaker 5: asked questions for about this timber this is Timberwolves specific.
Speaker 6: I want to make that clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not Pacers or anybody else but just Minnesota,
Speaker 2: and they're shine a light into what we might see here.
Speaker 5: One of them is how much will it dizone subscription costs?
Speaker 5: And what are the subscription options? This is all it
Speaker 5: says here. The zone will offer various Timberwolves subscription options,
Speaker 5: including a season pass, season pass, and monthly plans. Full pricing,
Speaker 5: promotional offers, and purchase details will be announced once launched.
Speaker 5: So there's looks like there's at least some flexibility with this,
Speaker 5: but it looks like it's going to be season monthly.
Speaker 2: Is the zone offered via direct TV? It is not,
Speaker 2: I don't think so or or nothing cable. It's going
Speaker 2: to be an app, not duray it's going to be
Speaker 2: but an app that's going to be spinning around like
Speaker 2: crazy and Jackie with everybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, Because it says how do I access the
Speaker 5: Timberwolves on the Zone, and it says Timberwolves subscriptions will
Speaker 5: be available for purchase on the The Zone app before
Speaker 5: the season begins, So yeah, it does say here though.
Speaker 5: In addition, fifteen games will be shown for free for
Speaker 5: any fan who creates a free de Zonne account, So
Speaker 5: fifteen of them will be for free.
Speaker 6: But then it remains to be seen what happens with
Speaker 6: the rest of them. This is just a Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 2: The Minnesota Timberwolves. I don't think I like that.
Speaker 6: I don't either.
Speaker 2: I don't think I like any of this, and I
Speaker 2: expect me to be incredibly pissy upon announcement. I don't
Speaker 2: want to be pissy. I don't like you. I mean
Speaker 2: a lot of you guys say, well, you're pissy all
Speaker 2: the time. You seem like you like it. I don't
Speaker 2: like it whatsoever. The next two years, man, don't mess it.
Speaker 2: Just don't mess with it. We'll see. I don't know
Speaker 2: if anybody else around here can help. Any of the
Speaker 2: local channels. God knows, they all stink and there's nothing
Speaker 2: good on them anyway.
Speaker 5: Well, I was going to say too, speaking to that,
Speaker 5: I did see something today John with the Pistons.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Now, this is like there were some stations that agreed
Speaker 5: to broadcast their games locally in Detroit, and then there
Speaker 5: was Grand Rapids, which is a city like a hour
Speaker 5: or two away. There's stations there that are broadcasting them
Speaker 5: locally for free. Starting this Okay, So that's that the
Speaker 5: Timberwolf thing might be kind of like a negative look
Speaker 5: at it, But then there's also like some stations are.
Speaker 6: Making it up making it look positive.
Speaker 2: I guess, so free and easy would be a great
Speaker 2: way to go about it. I hope it is. Now
Speaker 2: we'll find out tomorrow with the NBA schedule for Opening
Speaker 2: Night and for Christmas Day, and we'll find out if
Speaker 2: Rooster and if Dead Bod Sports would be accurate regarding
Speaker 2: the Pacers and the Knicks to lead things off on
Speaker 2: Christmas Day. I'd mentioned this this date. Nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 2: Red Dawn, Cold War at Classic. A lot of the
Speaker 2: Brat Pack, a lot of those from the eighties that
Speaker 2: we still love today involved, but most noted for what
Speaker 2: it became the first movie Caleb with the newly created
Speaker 2: PG thirteen rating. The first movie PG thirteen where it
Speaker 2: all started, Red Dawn in nineteen eighty four. Did you know? Now,
Speaker 2: you know, it's weird, like they're all sitting in class
Speaker 2: in Colorado and all of a sudden, all these paratroopers
Speaker 2: come parachuting down. Now, I think the teacher gets smoked,
Speaker 2: Like right out of the gate, it gets serious, man.
Speaker 6: You're saying this Pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 2: That's why it's Pg. Thirteen. Probably right out of the gate.
Speaker 6: I think we need to get a segment on here
Speaker 6: and did you know and it could just be you
Speaker 6: you're random.
Speaker 2: Yes, we do. We need that, need that Pg. Thirteen.
Speaker 2: It is all right. The Fever had a meeting with
Speaker 2: the media a little bit earlier today. The Fever in
Speaker 2: New York actually back to back games on Friday. We're
Speaker 2: going to be down there as Debbie and Pat going
Speaker 2: to join us coming up on Friday.
Speaker 6: That's the plan. It looks like it's going to be
Speaker 6: in the last hour of the show.
Speaker 2: It's hanging out. That's great. Well, I'll be all half
Speaker 2: in the bag by then. That'd be great radio. Right, Yes,
Speaker 2: So that's on Friday. Hearst Lamontes will bring us to
Speaker 2: you live from the Pivot Balcony bar. And you know
Speaker 2: this as downtown locations go. One of my favorites just
Speaker 2: right across Pennsylvania from Gambridge Field House. On back to
Speaker 2: back games. New York coming up tomorrow night, Dallas coming
Speaker 2: up on Friday night. We will be down at Pivot
Speaker 2: Balcony Bar and we'll get Pat and Debbie with us
Speaker 2: coming up on Friday in that final hour. As you
Speaker 2: mentioned too, we'll have a lot going on considering that'll
Speaker 2: be coming off that first preseason game with the Colts.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind on Thursday four thirty for the Colts
Speaker 2: pregame huddle. We'll start in the middle of this show
Speaker 2: and we're gonna have a lot more in the Colts
Speaker 2: pregame with us of Rick Venturi this season. That is
Speaker 2: going to be outstanding. Less of me, more of Rick
Speaker 2: is always incredibly good. That starts coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Rakestraw hanging with us tomorrow. I should mention Plow, but
Speaker 2: again it's kind of what you know, a winner in
Speaker 2: Portland yesterday, in Indy car and some maybe some things
Speaker 2: we haven't hit. I was funny, I was watching what
Speaker 2: the Reds were doing this weekend. Just an absolute disaster
Speaker 2: to go along with a disastrous season for that group.
Speaker 2: We saw. Once again, I didn't really I should have
Speaker 2: and I have checked out altogether right now and rightly,
Speaker 2: so all right, quick break will come back final time.
Speaker 2: You and I on the other side to State Fair
Speaker 2: free throw shooting competition coming up on Saturday eleven until one.
Speaker 2: A chance for you to compete with me and win
Speaker 2: a family four pack of passes to the Indiana State Fair.
Speaker 2: Clayton Anderson Free Show coming up tomorrow night at the
Speaker 2: Indiana State Fair. More on that and then some to
Speaker 2: close the show, Kaleb me all that and more to
Speaker 2: close out with you coming up next.
Speaker 4: The ride with JMV.
Speaker 2: This is how I eat corner the cob, I boil it,
Speaker 2: I go shirtless out of my back deck, eat it
Speaker 2: like I ravage it, and then throw the cob out.
Speaker 4: Into the back forty NY three five and one oh
Speaker 4: seven five the fan.
Speaker 3: You know, I think just from being from a humanistic
Speaker 3: perspective and lifeless and perspective, you know, I think our
Speaker 3: group does a really good job of responding. I think
Speaker 3: our group does a really good job of scoring in
Speaker 3: one another, keeping the main thing with a thing of
Speaker 3: understanding that there are a lot of folks out there
Speaker 3: who want.
Speaker 6: To divide us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and while that is true. Caitlin Clark does the
Speaker 2: best with that, I mean even with the technicals and
Speaker 2: you know, getting one more, having the one rescinded on Saturday,
Speaker 2: which was you know, the easiest call to make of
Speaker 2: all time to rescind that, But to put yourself in
Speaker 2: that situation, it is one thing. But I most admire
Speaker 2: of Caitlyn Clark is how she just goes about wanting
Speaker 2: to play basketball, and I think that helps galvanize a
Speaker 2: locker room and a team. That is Stephanie White mentioned
Speaker 2: right there can often be compromised because of all the
Speaker 2: outside talk and the verbal grifters, those that want to
Speaker 2: hijack the storylines or make themselves thrust themselves into it.
Speaker 2: A couple of things happen on Saturday. One is the
Speaker 2: fever one. The other is you had a couple of
Speaker 2: incredibly easy calls Djona Carrington, that was a reckless defensive
Speaker 2: play and deserve it of an ass tossing see ya.
Speaker 2: And then the whole white privileged thing in the locker
Speaker 2: room and everybody has had a comment about that. Everybody
Speaker 2: knows what it means, and now you try to double
Speaker 2: back where you don't really know what it means. You know,
Speaker 2: everybody knows what it means. Had nothing to do with
Speaker 2: the foul call and then the ejection, the move, your
Speaker 2: actions doing that had everything to do with it. There
Speaker 2: is no way. And you watch ESPN. The ESPN folks
Speaker 2: in that booth, who are they there's a Monica McNutt.
Speaker 6: And then studio whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the video you showed to say, well,
Speaker 2: this is just what she does. I don't know what
Speaker 2: she does or what she doesn't, but I know this.
Speaker 2: I rarely see in women's basketball anybody that blocks a
Speaker 2: shot that's not just taller or blocking from behind on
Speaker 2: the interior. There's no way you were going to block that.
Speaker 2: The one thing you were going to do was knock
Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham to the floor with a forearm, elbow to
Speaker 2: the neck. And the right call there was made. It
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with anything personal or nothing to
Speaker 2: do with who the foul was on the team you
Speaker 2: were playing against. But the massive era era after the
Speaker 2: game was with Stephanie White just doing what she's talking
Speaker 2: about right there, you know, further galvanizing your huddle and
Speaker 2: your locker room by denouncing the action. You don't have
Speaker 2: to suggest there was absolute intent, because nobody really knows,
Speaker 2: but you know that to be egregious, you know it
Speaker 2: to be reckless, and you can describe it as such. Now,
Speaker 2: people like me would just say it was a dumbass play.
Speaker 2: That's what it was. And I don't care if it
Speaker 2: were Sophie Cunningham or Caitlin Clark or anybody in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty five. If you want to come down and close
Speaker 2: line somebody on the break, all right, but in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six can't do it. And everything the way that
Speaker 2: it was officiated, all that was accurate. But you just
Speaker 2: want to see and believe me. I'm a backer of
Speaker 2: Stephanie White. I don't mind her coaching. Everybody else does
Speaker 2: because everybody else blames her for absolutely everything. In this case,
Speaker 2: I blame her because that was an easy opportunity to
Speaker 2: further galvanize this team and make sure that you can
Speaker 2: continue to defend those that don't have your best interest
Speaker 2: in mind. He didn't take advantage of it. That's unfortunate, Caleb.
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