WEBVTT - Full Show Monday 8/10/26: Colts get ready for Pats; Fever get win over Sky! 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:14.000 And where are we going here? Anything you have a 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:17.120 chance against us? Mister cowboy gay mother? 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:18.599 What do you like to do? 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:19.200 Oh? 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:19.720 I don't know. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.880 Play chess, screw Weller's play chess? 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.239 They give off that. Jonathan Taylor Chuck Cunning gets away, 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:29.040 walk to the goal line. He's in there, put down 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:35.280 and d why Jonathan Taylor Wheler finds corn. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.560 Here's halliburn into the front court, mishandled it against any 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.159 shot he finds it. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.040 John, I have never been bedroom to be on the 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.960 air with you here in Indianapolis, a place where so 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:51.480 many of my dreams have come true. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.800 The Ride with JMV on ninety three five and one 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:56.480 oh seven five, The fan. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.520 Hell of a day to get started. On a Monday 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:03.440 following nineteen, Pa says, I'm good, we're feeling good. Caleb's 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.600 over there, I'm John right here. We have a loaded show. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:11.280 So the Colts have released their official depth chart. We 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:16.440 will gather around this sheet of paper and break it down. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.039 Actually we won't, but we'll talk about it, I'm sure, 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:25.080 because we do have football coming up later on this week, 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.840 and we do have a pregame show a football coming 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.800 up later on this week. I believe that a good 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.559 man Eddie Garrison has that up there on the board 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:42.360 four thirty for the Colts pregame huddle on Thursday about 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:47.880 that the band's all back together again. That starts coming 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:52.480 up on Thursday. Joint practices in New England with the 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.320 Patriots will be all about that coming up as well. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.640 I will continue to talk about this. I was on 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.880 with Tony Katz this morning and mentioned at some point 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.559 and I know that the DJ Montgomery has been here 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.800 and yay, okay, but at some point you are going 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:18.000 to and whether Alec Pierce returns, when, if and how 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:24.440 he returns, or that everything is okay with Josh Downs. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:30.839 You have to go out and get somebody else of significance. 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:36.360 The clock is ticking, the numbers are dwindling of those 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.200 that can do anything for It's not like we're tripping 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:45.000 the light fantastic in general. Here. Here's the other thing. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:51.920 There have been so many different times, and this is 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:59.360 a rarity, so many different times when the media or 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:05.560 the fan base has been more accurate, more on the ball, 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:11.480 more understanding of what is necessary. Let's face it, and fans, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.359 I'll put you in I guess on the media hell 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.720 I don't care if I'm the media or not the media. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.240 I don't give a fat crap. But let's just go 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.799 ahead and lump us all together. Most of the time, 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:29.239 we don't know Jack Squatt. Seriously, we don't know Jack Squat. 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.080 We come on here, there he is. We come on here, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.840 and we have opinions, and we yip yap for three 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.320 hours a day. But yeah, a lot of these things, 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.920 we don't double back and say how wrong we were? 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.120 Oh I do, I guess because you guys call me out. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.000 I have to own a lot of the things I'm 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.000 wrong about. But so many times over the course of 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:53.400 the past ten years, which coincides with Chris Ballard being here, 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.800 so many times it seems like that the media and 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.360 the fan base would be out in front of the 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:06.480 thought process, the direction and the motivation of the team. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:12.040 That is pretty bad. And I'm talking about the team, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:17.320 I'm talking about the organization. I guess when you look 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:21.040 at that in these terms, when they say, hey, if 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.000 you start taking the advice of those sitting in the stands, 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.960 you're going to find yourself sitting there. Well, you know, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.360 in this case, there are a lot of examples where 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.800 you could have taken the advice of those sitting in 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.680 the stands and maybe it would have worked out better. Yeah, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.520 there's no prize for that. We're not going to get 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.719 a trophy. I'm not asking for a trophy or any 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:45.080 admiration whatsoever. But I'm just going to tell you if 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.960 there are reasons as to why this organization finds itself 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:54.120 rotten with question marks and really a great deal of hope. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.520 I start basically every segment regarding the Colts when we 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.920 get down into it and lock in and talk it up, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:06.560 is hey, I hope everything's going okay. Other teams say, yeah, 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:11.920 we believe these are things positively and how they're going 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.279 to go here. It's a when I cross my fingers, 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:19.880 shut my eyes and hold on and hope this cannot 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:24.480 be another example. It's one of those things where we 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.119 talk about a lot of things as well over my years. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.360 I started doing it on my own back in two 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.799 thousand and four in November, So you know, I fully 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.080 understand that we talk about a lot of things in 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:39.120 the preseason where it's absolute waste of time, effort, and 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:44.599 certainly breath. Nothing ever comes to fruition. There are so 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.400 many different players that we had tremendous dialogue about going 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:53.320 back all these seasons and it didn't matter one ounce. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:58.000 I just happen to think this one is going to matter. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.480 And this has nothing to do with my feeling or 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:09.600 guarding Ashton Doolan or Nick Kakeene Westbrook Akeene nothing. I 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.120 didn't know DJ Montgomery. I'm sure he's just here to 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.000 be a camp body. I just know this. At some 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:21.480 point you have to significantly address the issue. And maybe 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.560 it comes down to the veteran does not want to 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.320 jack around with cam, he doesn't want to go to 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.640 New England, he doesn't want to deal with joint practices. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.800 Whomever this might be, we're all just thinking is going 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.440 to be a former connection to the head coach. I 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.720 will say this, the head coach seemingly has something going on. 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:42.400 Everybody loves the play calling ability. Everybody loves the play 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.120 calling ability. Everybody loves the effect he had on Daniel 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.799 Jones a year ago. Those are things that are true. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:51.560 But the other things that are also true is the 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.320 fact that this team rarely stays healthy, is capable of 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:59.719 staying healthy for a while, and then ultimately what happens 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.200 You have to go down a different path or you 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.919 feel like you're unprepared and you're always saying, well, you know, 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.359 we just got bit by the injury bug. At some 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.680 point in time, it's more about you than it is 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:17.000 about everything else that happens. So I am I am 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:21.080 a little bit surprised. I shouldn't be, but I am 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:25.800 a little bit surprised that nothing has come about regarding 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:33.800 this just yet. That we shall see, But I'm not 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.440 so sure now. If you're asking me about the standouts 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.040 from camp so far, I think the one thing that 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.320 stands out to me. And we'll see when it gets real, 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.400 when you're actually having guys try to track you down 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:55.760 with bad intentions in mind, that'll change. But for right now, 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.880 you're thinking about an injury and coming back from that, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.680 and how you've seen Daniel Jones and everybody describes Daniel Jones. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.520 That's great. On the other hand, I will also tell 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:09.200 you this, I'm not really too fond of wanting to 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.960 get into at all. For Anthony Richardson, we've known the 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:20.680 outcome of this for a while, so what did anybody 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.200 think that we were going with it? And it is weird. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:29.040 There is such an incredible combination, you know, I've explained 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:37.280 you had all these cultivated WNBA slash basketball fans because 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.400 the phenomenon of Caitlin Clark. It's not about the game, 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.520 but everybody seemingly has either fallen in love. And then 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.560 there's the other side, can't stand Caitlin Clark one of 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:54.240 the most polarizing figures anywhere, not just in basketball, sure 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:58.160 as hell, not just in the WNBA. But it seems 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:02.520 like what this has done, it's cultivation so many non 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.400 fans or people that didn't know or wouldn't really care 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.000 or never watch basketball, and then it kind of vaulted 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.080 them into they think they're like John Wooden juniors here 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.640 and they really don't know they're asked from nothing. And 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:20.600 there's a similar point to be made regarding the love 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:25.480 affair with Anthony Richardson, because you only had a play 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:30.880 here or there. Everything else was make believe everything else. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.839 You were thinking, Wow, you know, I'm a gamer, and 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.440 I'm gonna get on my video game and I'm going 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.280 to create a player and it's going to look exactly 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.360 like this guy. There is no doubt if the looks 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:46.000 told the story, this dude would be absolutely unstoppable. But 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.960 the people that have held on to this dream that 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.120 is about as far from reality as possible, or all 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.160 those to me is that Generation Z or you Generation 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.360 Z in there, Caleb, Is that you or you even. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:01.080 Yes? 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:06.000 And that's they they see something that I guess they 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.520 have seen in a video game, you know, in the 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.680 midst of their non dating nerdery, that they have cultivated 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:16.800 into something that is that is not exactly real, and 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.800 they've argued and argued and argued to no avail, and 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.199 ultimately the player has to play, it has to show. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:28.160 So there's really not much more to talk about. It 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:32.640 is just really weird how that was cultivated with Anthony Richardson, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:38.040 and how the phenomenon of Caitlin Clark cultivated former non 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:42.360 basketball fans that all of a sudden became basketball genius. 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:48.920 And here we are speaking of basketball genius. You guys 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.559 want to get into this weekend of basketball genius. I 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.520 am not, and I should be, because if we ever 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:01.320 got together, we're very light minded thinkers. Now I'm assuming 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:05.560 he's much smarter than me, but you know this to 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.400 be true. I've never really been the biggest fan of 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:13.480 Bill Simmons. And maybe you can find that clip of 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.880 him talking about the WNBA, because a lot of what 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:21.320 he has said about the WNBA are things that I 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:26.319 have said about the WNBA. So we're I think we're 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:30.199 light minded thinkers. He loves pop culture, that is great, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.240 but he also loves New England, and I think New 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.960 England sucks, and not just the Patriots, but most of it. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.520 I think it sucks. And we all got kind of 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.560 tired of hearing from Bill Simmons about the Patriots, and Bill, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.480 you know, when the flat Gate and all this stuff happened, 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.280 we all got sick and tired of hearing that. And 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.240 then he had Bill Simmons and the Celtics, and he 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.240 gets sick and tired of hearing about that. Now, if 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.680 the old school Celtics with Larry Bird, you never get 0:11:54.720 --> 0:12:01.320 tired of that. But he cultivated himself as not just 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.839 a basketball guy, but then an all sports guy and 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.800 then went over into pop culture. And we have similarities 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.679 in that capacity. So you're right if you're saying you 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:16.680 should really like him, because you guys are not equal 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.400 in smarts, because I'm about as smart as this tabletop, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.200 but we are equal in terms of what we like, 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:31.520 what we enjoy, whether it's sports, or entertainment or movies 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:38.040 or television shows or music. We are certainly in that 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:43.760 same category. He's just been widely, massively more successful than 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:48.839 your good friends sitting right here and two thumbs up, 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:53.280 like Fonzarelli to him for that. However, what he had 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.320 to say about the WNBA, we'll get to coming up 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:03.480 in a little bit, is is curate. They need new leadership. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.040 They do, And what I have said about the WNBA 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.920 is I want it to be about basketball, and with 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.680 this leadership, it's never going to be about basketball because 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.840 it's not like anybody really rallies and then spotlights the 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:24.000 talent they have, because there is talent there. Now it 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.360 depends on you know, how you view you know, talent. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.400 If you look at the NBA and the WNBA, they're 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.520 just simply put, there are massive differences in the talent. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:39.719 But in terms of basketball on whatever level, the WNBA 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.880 has a ton of stars. Yet the only thing that 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.280 you ever hear is pissing and moaning about the WNBA. Now, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.240 let's face it, the only thing you ever hear around 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.000 here is pissing and moaning about the fever. And the fever. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:58.080 They don't handle it well either. They haven't yet the WNBA, 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:04.200 And really that's where it starts. Your leader has to 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.640 set the trend and the tone for everybody else, and 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:12.400 in this case that has not happened. Thus you constantly 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.959 find yourself I think Simmons referenced it as constantly stepping 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:23.280 into bear traps. They just look unprepared. By now. You 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.080 should have some sort of blueprint or game plan about 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:30.160 how to handle it, and they don't act like that. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:36.280 They have the foggiest idea. And oftentimes the Fever have 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.440 shown the same thing. And I have been a tremendous 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:46.680 defender of Stephanie White from a coaching angle her coaching. 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:51.680 Her coaching has been for the most part, other than 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.680 stuff that you can go at and just be critical 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:59.240 of because she's a coach in general. Anyway, to me, 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.880 a lot of the short cummings that we see on 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.360 the floor comes down to the players and what they do, 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:11.640 the mistakes they make, the decision making, the lack of defense, 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.200 the lack of rebounding, fouling too much, turning the ball 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.280 over too much. That to me is well out of 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:22.800 the control of the head coach. But here's what is 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.160 at this point in time. If I'm Stephanie White, and 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.840 I had to exit from social media because of all 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.080 the jackassery. And I haven't heard her on with Jake. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.400 I know that she had a really nice relationship with 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.400 Jake coming on all the time. I don't think we've 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.880 heard her on Jake with Quarrying Company in a while. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.720 And there's reasons behind that, because you get tired of 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:48.200 it and you just kind of you hunk her down, 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:52.160 if you will, and you try to make everything as 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:59.200 normal surrounding basketball as you can. And I thought Saturday 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:03.920 afternoon after the player ejection and what took place in 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:08.760 that win ninety eighty six over Chicago. So you had 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:13.120 a player for the Sky that basically by the neck 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.040 tackled Sophie Cunningham. That's really the only way you can 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:23.600 put it. Dejane Carrington tackled by the neck Sophie Cunningham. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.440 And then you had a lot of the ESPN world 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.240 coming to her defense and saying, well, look at the past, 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:32.280 look how many plays she's made. It was nothing but 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.360 a reckless and the only thing that could have come 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.200 out of that there was going to be no defensive 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.360 play made. It was going It was reckless and all 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.000 it was going to do was injure somebody because one 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.600 thing is she's not talented or athletic enough to do that. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:53.360 And that's why when you look around the WNBA, you 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:57.720 rarely see block shots unless it's just a taller player 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.680 standing up with her arms stretched out trying to block 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.520 somebody down low, or you get a block from coming 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:09.080 in from behind. Because the athleticism compared to the block 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.760 shots that were used to seeing it that that's not 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:17.359 part of their game. So the only outcome from that 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:21.960 and that trackdown was going to be exactly what we saw, 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.800 and it was malicious. I don't know about the whole 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.800 want you guys, can the nerds all go with? Well, 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.560 that was wind up there. It was just a reckless, 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.600 dumb ass play. I don't know if that is in 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.600 the Is that in the real book? Reckless and dumbass? 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.240 That's what it was. That was a dumb ass play. 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.840 And all you're going to accomplish you didn't, I mean, 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.760 score it anyway. You're not going to accomplish getting anything 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:52.280 done defensively. All you're going to do is compromise yourself 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.040 and your team and then you're going to go into 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.159 the locker room, and you're gonna send something out on 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:01.160 Instagram and look like an even bigger dumbass. And then 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.399 with that, you're gonna make your team and your league 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.600 look like a bunch of dumbasses. That's all you're gonna do. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:12.399 That's all this is accomplished. And that's yet another reason 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.600 why the WNBA needs new leadership and new guidance. But 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:22.000 for Stephanie White, if I were her, and I know, 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.320 nobody over there is listening, and nobody over there cares, 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.800 And frankly, that's okay because it's not like you guys 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.240 are providing a great deal of leadership in the first place. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:40.200 You are basically right there with the WNBA. So I'm 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.160 just going to hand out this advice and if somebody 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.359 hears it, so be it. If somebody does it, because 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.960 you know how, I do defend Stephanie White as the coach, 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.880 but as I defend her as a coach, she has 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:59.560 to defend her players. These guys are all in the 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:09.439 huddle together, and the only thing different in defensively looking 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:13.399 at that malicious play is trying to figure out whether 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:22.320 there was intent. Who cares? It was reckless and anybody 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.879 can see that. But once you get around your team, 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:31.280 that's who you're with, that's who's playing for you, that's 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:35.960 who you're coaching, that's your family. You defend your family. 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.800 You defend your family. I would expect that every single time, 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:45.600 and I think you do it vehemently. You do it 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.520 like I defend you as a coach when things don't 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.880 work out, when you don't foul, when you're up three 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.360 on a final play. You know, I defend the fact 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.040 there wasn't enough time. I'll defend you as the coach. 0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:01.959 But you have to defend your team. And it was 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:08.359 malicious and it was reckless, and that's all you need. 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.399 I don't care about the brand of Sophie Cunningham. I 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.639 don't care about the thoughts of white privilege after the 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:19.439 game of Carrot, none of that matters. You defend, you 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:27.120 huddle up, and you stay tight with your team. And 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:31.439 the dialogue after that game on Saturday did not speak 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.920 to the level in which it should have. And I'm 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.960 not going to try to read the body language of 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.640 the players, including Caitlin Clark up there. Somebody else can 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.520 read the body language. I can just tell you you 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:48.359 stay tight. That's not tight, and that's what's necessary. And 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.600 if I'm Stephanie White, it really wouldn't matter to me. 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:55.280 I'm getting it from every single direction. Had I said 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.280 or taken my advice, if you're Stephanie White, she probably 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.240 still would be slung with the era. It doesn't matter 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:05.879 what she does. She's always going to be criticized. But 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:09.280 you want to make sure everybody in that locker room, 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:15.240 everybody in that huddle, is tight. And that wasn't great. 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:21.280 I guess I don't understand what needs to be done. 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.400 People say, well, they're not getting coached up enough, they're 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:30.440 not getting guidance. My god, that's just sports. That's just sports. 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:32.920 It's almostly. Can you imagine you imagine going all the 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:35.520 way back to the eighties or stuff like this was commonplace. 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.240 You know, one of the most noted plays in history 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.439 was that playoff game with the Celtics and the Lakers 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:45.359 when Kevin McHale closed line Kurt Rambus. That's exactly what 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.960 it was. It was a closed line with a purpose, 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.560 and even if there was not significant purpose behind it, right, 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:57.320 it was again reckless, it was dangerous, and it was 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.120 dealt with the way that it should have been dealt with. 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:04.960 Just not by the fever head coach after the game. 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.840 Can't be doing that stuff. There's zero way. And I 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.480 had to watch the ESPN. I don't know whoever on 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.399 the show. You could tell me, Caleb, who are the 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:19.399 ones on the show? The WNBA show and they go 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:23.119 back to a lot of these track down plays. Listen, 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:26.040 this Carrington chick is not Lebron James. Okay, that stuff's 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.200 not going to happen. There's zero way these women are 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:32.000 going to be able to jump up and discard from 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.560 the side every single time you're going to make contact, 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:39.639 and that's dangerous. Contact has nothing to do with white 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:43.440 privilege or now there's no privilege there it like, I'll 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:47.719 get that was the easiest call the WNBA and the 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:52.080 officials have made this season. Now rescinding the technical that 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:55.720 Caitlin Clark was the second easiest, but that was the easiest. 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.399 I don't even know why at disappoint in time with 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.360 the rest of the league and everybody around it, and 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.800 with all that's coming at her, I don't know why. 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.560 Stephanie White, who was a fantastic player and a fantastic teammate, 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.080 you got to get this thing tight, man. You're leaving 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:18.960 loose ends on Saturday afternoon. You don't want that. That 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:22.080 is the only way you get through again the world 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:27.880 in which has been created by the fandom of Caitlin 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:33.480 Clark and the focus on getting the responses that a 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.600 lot of those media hijackers out there get off on. 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.000 They see the response and they go with it. Otherwise 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:44.800 they really don't care. I don't care anything about what 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:46.920 happens in these games. You think Jason Whitlock's all of 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.159 a sudden the big WNBA fit, Hell, no he's not. 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:51.240 I mean, he gets response for whatever the hell he 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:56.280 does right now. That's it. Nothing else. Otherwise he wouldn't care. 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.800 And really, if that's what you do, I'm not blaming him, 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:03.160 not blaming any of these guys for what they say. 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.600 If you want to verbally grift and you know, take 0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:08.359 people with you, that's the time to do it. And 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:12.159 certainly that is the subject matter to do it. But 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:14.840 if you're the fever, you've got to tighten up and 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.000 you've settled it. Kaitlin Clark says all the right things 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:21.840 about being about basketball, and you just you got to 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.640 be hardcore and say those are the types of plays 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.840 that you absolutely have to eliminate that was so much 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.960 more egregious than even the fist to the throat of 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:34.679 the neck area of Kaitlyn Clark. You have to come 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.880 out because nobody else cares about you. Everybody else out there. 0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:42.119 Once you can, everybody wants you can. I think I 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:47.480 saw what's his name beckwith the Lieutenant governor. You think 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.320 that dude's ever dribbled a basketball in his life? Hell no, 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.320 his cheeks are way too rosy to be dribbling a basketball. 0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.680 There's zero way he's ever dribbled a basketball. Yet now 0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:01.000 he wants to fever coach fired. You guys don't need that. 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:05.360 Just stay tight with your team. And that didn't get 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:09.400 it done. And I will also tell you, even if 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:13.399 it's something that you thought was to the detriment of 0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:17.240 the league, the hell with it. The league's discombobulated as hell. 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:23.400 Worry about the people you're going to battle with. Don't 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:25.800 worry about the people you're going to battle with and 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.520 their thoughts or their brands. You coach them, you stay 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:34.680 tight with them. I know it's easier said than done, 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:38.480 but damn, so many years of hoop and not to 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:46.280 recognize that is it's flabbergasting, it really is. So anyway, 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.280 I know you don't listen over there. I know nobody 0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.119 over there has every been on the show, and that's okay. 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:55.199 I don't really care. But my advice again, which you 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:59.320 won't hear or you'll leave, is make sure that everybody 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.560 in that line room and that huddle is on the 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:07.400 same page with you, and you didn't do that. Stay tight, 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:13.880 and there was zero defense of that defensive move of Carrington, 0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:18.040 even though you saw that from ESPN and others, and 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.040 not a way in the world she's going to track 0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:25.640 down anybody from behind and block it from behind. And 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.520 you're lucky the player. You're lucky. Sophie Cunningham in this 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:34.720 case wasn't injured more than she was. That's a reckless play. 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.159 You can't have that. Anybody that's ever played basketball understands it. 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:42.919 Why don't they quick break? We'll come back from that 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:44.840 on the other side too. We got Steven Holder is 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.920 going to join us. We'll talk Colts in depth chart. 0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.440 You guys want to hear the first official depth chart 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.800 of the twenty twenty six Colts Camp. You guys so excited, 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.800 you just can't Where's Jesse Spano to sing some Pointer 0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.600 Sisters for us right here. I'm so excited, I just can't. 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.200 I'm so excited. You know what I'm talking about. Say 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.479 by the bell, Jesse spanno over there, call, come on 0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:07.000 now song. 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:07.960 I know the song. 0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:14.240 She was taking speed so she could stay up and study. 0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:18.000 Zach Morris was the voice of reason. You can't sing tonight, Jesse, 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:26.120 you're stoned so excited. We'll do that with Stephen coming 0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.760 up in the five o'clock hour. Is a mutual friend 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.520 of ours coming on this show. Have I heard this? 0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.640 After four o'clock hour? He is? 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.840 I mean, people will love to hear this story. 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:41.800 You know. Now, I will say among those that are 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.760 first in line to make fun of what they do 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:46.720 all the time, that would be me. I can't say 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:52.119 what I call them on the air whiffle blanks. Now 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:56.639 I have an actually grind on it, because whenever the 0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:01.959 whiffle blanks end up whiffle blinking, I always get screwed. 0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.560 On a Sunday and we're not able to play. Nobody 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.640 opens the gym, we can't play, so the whiffle blanks 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.760 are whiffle blanking, and then I'm kind of stuck right, 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.120 and by the way, shout out to Jason Wiseman injured. 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.000 And then all these new dudes that showed up yesterday 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.359 and played twelve strong when it was one hundred and 0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:23.520 five degrees in the Center Grove Central Gymnasium. It would 0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:27.440 have been an awesome morning had I not sucked. Other 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.720 than that, it was just kind of halfway awesome because 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:35.280 I got a good sweat knocked out about twelve hundred calories. Now, 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:39.600 Brendan Dutas is the baseball coach at Southport. He is 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.400 one of the more awesome dudes anybody out there will 0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.920 ever meet. And he is a member of the New 0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:52.600 York Green Apples Championship Wiffle blank team. I'm gonna have 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.640 to say, whiffle blank. The entire time. 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.400 Big League Whiffle champions is also excepted. 0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:59.800 But you can do what you want whiffle. Now we 0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:03.120 are going to joke. Look, because I watched these games. 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.200 It was on the Oacho last week, right, Their championship 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.600 game was on the Oacho, And did you see I 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.200 sent a text and I said, hey, Dudas, go make 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.360 some contact. These guys never make any contact. It's just 0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:16.920 to get up to the plate. And strike out. 0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:18.720 Well, you just ask him about this. 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.120 These whiffleballs, these pitches they throw look like something out 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:26.240 of a cartoon where it was like a courtscrew. So 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:30.000 I was like, it starts out about twenty five feet 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.480 in the left, it comes back in and hits the target, 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:37.080 the New York Green apples. And he is a mutual 0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:41.120 friend of Caleb and I. His name is Brendan Dudas, 0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.160 and he was a part of that championship team and 0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.160 we are proud to have him. He's got actually a field. 0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.560 Have you seen the dirt yard before social media? 0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:50.040 I need to get there a person, though. 0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:54.960 He's got the dirt yard down there. The whiffle blanks. 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:59.040 See if you can guess what I call the whiffle blanks. Yeah, 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.200 I can guess I Yes, have you heard me put 0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.800 it in there before? Yes, Hey, it looks like we're 0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:05.280 getting whiffle blank. 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:08.040 Man. 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.520 Dudeas is awesome. Though, dude's going to join us at 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.800 the four o'clock hour. All right, quick break, we'll come back. Now. 0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:19.440 You can find us anywhere stream app, HD radio. Now 0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.920 you can watch us Speccoli right here, rock in the 0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:26.400 Vans T shirt. Got a lot more for you. On 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.960 what is going to be a spectacular week and where 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.480 you can join me out of the road. I'll explain 0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.719 coming up, Stay right there. Ninety three five and one 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.880 oh seven five the Fan. Here's a weather update. 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:40.880 The ride with JMV. 0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:44.240 Are you kidding you think I'd joined this crummy snabbatorium? 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.280 What his whole place sucks? That's right, it sucks. 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.560 Ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan. 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.840 Instead, it's all this discourse stuff and they're just stepping 0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.400 in bear traps left and right because they have no 0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:00.800 adults in charge of the league. Finals are going to 0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.000 be on two different channels depending. 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:03.120 On the game. 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.680 How stupid and desperate for money do you have to 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.960 be to agree to that? They by far have the 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.880 best collection of players that I think they've had. I 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.720 don't know anybody who thinks they're well run. So they 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.160 have to fix this, and I hope they do. 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.960 But we're always thrust into just a complete level of 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:29.880 jack assery. It drives your nuts, and then we're going 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:34.480 to go into a realm right now too, where you're 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.160 going to be out of side, out of mind when 0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:40.280 football takes over. Yet, good luck. I don't care how 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:44.840 robust the globe is with Caitlin Clark fans, it'll all 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:50.720 go away, poof gone. Take advantage of it when you can, 0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.240 And the same can be said for Stephanie one. You 0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.280 got to take advantage of it when you can. That's 0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:03.240 an easy call. As a leader of the team, reckless 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.360 around the neck. You don't have to say, well, look, 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.520 got see it purposely and all because of what's being said, 0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.040 and none of you can just say that is the 0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:14.200 stuff you have to eliminate. That's like the fist of 0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:17.600 the throat of Kaitlin Clark, and that's how you further 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:22.280 galvanize your group. But instead, I don't know about the 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.880 inner workings in the locker room, but I mean, hell, 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.400 if you're a player on that, you don't want to 0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:30.600 hear that. And then you're constantly trying to tell them 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.040 to do stuff that they don't look capable of doing, 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:37.040 playing defense often and you're trying to compel them to 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.200 play defense. And then you're going out there, we gotta 0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.200 play defense. You're gonna be and they're gonna go, oh, 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:46.760 all right, so great. It's got to be about all you. 0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:51.800 That's all you really have left at this point. Got 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:56.200 to be about you guys, your team in that huddle, 0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.400 and that wasn't on Saturday. And I have been a 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:03.000 defender like I get, and I love Jennifer right here too. 0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.880 I will always love Jennifer. But we're gonna disagree on 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.760 the coaching angle about you know, the defense, and there's 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:14.200 no defense of the way that she's coaching when they lose. 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:19.880 Her coaching is far less egregious than their execution on 0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:25.880 the floor. That's their fault, that's the player's fault. The 0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:30.440 players can own some stuff. It'd be nice if players 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.160 would own some stuff. And I know in the moment, 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.200 you may not want to. And you know, the Carrington 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.320 girl goes into the I'm mad you know you own 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.600 some stuff? Yeah, that was me in a big time 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.280 jackass moment. Look how stupid I look. And then the 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:49.800 WNBA needs to probably set her down. Be nice that 0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:54.080 the players would own some stuff. See, because the players 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:55.920 own some stuff. And I think Kayln Clark does a 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.240 good job of that too. That Kaitlin Clark doesn't leave 0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.640 her her coach could be on the hook for the 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.000 reason why they don't get better defensively, or they turn 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.080 it over too much, or you know why do you 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.680 leave teams hanging around that are far less talented than 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:14.640 you and you get well, you know they're coaching, but instead, 0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.799 you know, Caitlyn Clark always takes ownership because she is 0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.279 about the ball that's taking place on the floor. That 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.040 was an easy call for a coach to say, Yeah, 0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:30.640 that's egregious, that's reckless and absolutely can never happen. That's 0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:37.359 all you have to say. Defend your players. I would 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.960 say that even if you don't like them, defend them. 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:41.759 I don't know, but even if you don't like him, 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:46.840 defend them. Are you not healthy together? Defend him on 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:51.919 the floor actions. You know, we still to this day, 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:57.040 right and I'm not alone in this cat. We'll still 0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:01.880 to this day. There was no more egregious act that 0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:07.919 submarined a championship season than Meta World Peace. We'ren our 0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:18.319 test here, and look how we act toward him. There's 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:24.359 nobody that more submarine the last however many years, when 0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.160 he retired two weeks before the start of the season, 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:32.120 than Andrew Luck. And this is not me, but look 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:36.399 how most people will treat him. And we're not even 0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:38.480 talking about people in the locker room or people on 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:44.040 the huddle. Your coach has to go to bat, has 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:49.359 to stay strong with the players. I'm not even gonna 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.759 say you missed an opportunity. It wasn't an opportunity that 0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:59.600 was easy. It was easy. Forearm around the neck, reckless behavior. 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:06.319 You have to do that. That, to me, again, is 0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:08.920 far more egregious than why she can't get to her 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.239 team to play defense. Well, her team basically goes one 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.000 step left and one step right defensively, and that's about it. 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.359 So I don't know if maybe she can get out 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.400 there and push him, but other than that, probably not. 0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.719 But she certainly could have helped her team herself with 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:30.839 that and didn't. This date back in nineteen eighty four 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:37.000 significant for what Well, for one, it being an awesome summer, 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:44.400 the US men's basketball team one gold in these summer Olympics. 0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.960 Does mull ever talk that up the legend of that 0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.760 nineteen eighty four US Olympic basketball team. 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.520 I'm sure he's touched on it. 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.000 Big Mo, by the way, is Caleb's dad. And I 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.160 met Big Mo and Betsy over the weekend. I love 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.320 your parents, I love your people. 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:00.880 Good people. 0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.560 That was even they didn't come over to the barbecue. 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:09.600 Well, hey, that was Jordan's he was in those Olympics, correct, Yes. 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.680 The most significant thing about the team photograph, you know, 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.160 besides the fact that you have Bob Knight, the late 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.040 great Hall of Fame coach. There's Tim Garl right there, 0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.759 the AU trainer. There's Steve Offered from Newcastle. He's right 0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:25.640 there in the picture bottom left. Most significant thing that 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:29.600 I've always wondered what happened and why they didn't send 0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.520 a different picture out. You ever noticed I think it 0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:35.960 was Alvin Robertson in the bottom row. It looks like 0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:41.480 he's side eyeing Jordan, like Jordan's in the middle, and 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:46.960 I think that's Alvin Robertson next to him, and it's 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:51.120 Alvin Robertson that is looking They they probably should have 0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:55.839 gone with a different print. Yeah, right there. It's like 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:57.879 they was taken it in the sixties and you had 0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:01.080 like one opportunity to get it and if you screwed 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:02.960 it up, like leave it to beaver or something, that 0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:03.960 it was going to be forever. 0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:05.359 Yeah. 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.359 But yeah, they they've always left that picture in there 0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.239 of him looking to his right and it looks like 0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.879 he's side eyeing Michael Jordan. You see that. I do. 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.239 It's always been weird to me. I've never been able 0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:21.160 to get past that. I love watching that team though. 0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.960 That was fun. I look back on it too, just 0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:29.000 in general terms, the summer of nineteen eighty four was 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:38.719 fun for me. Good times. So yeah, Anthony Richardson and 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.279 now everybody that you know wants some hits is going 0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:44.319 to explain what he did it. Just like I said, 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:48.880 the only people that truly ever felt this was what 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.239 clearly it was would be I think those of the 0:38:52.320 --> 0:39:01.160 Caleb generation Z and most will point to subbing himself 0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:08.280 out what back in what season was? Was that Wendy 0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:09.160 something was two years ago? 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:10.720 Two years ago? Yep. 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:12.680 I don't even look at it as that. I just 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.799 think when your accuracy is that you can just kind 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:16.120 of tell. 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.719 But don't you do you think John that like, and 0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.480 I know this has been talked about at length on 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.080 this station, but don't you think that that is such 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.000 a microcosm of like, you took this guy that was 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:34.520 inexperienced and then he was so naive in that moment 0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:37.840 that he didn't know it was not okay to not 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.279 only just tap out, but then and afterwards admit it. 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.480 Like to me, it's such an embodiment of the whole experience. 0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.080 You know, I think the biggest role at all this 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:51.000 is and I know a lot of people also get 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.120 bent out of shape of this. And this is why 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:55.759 when people ask is Andrew Luck going to go in 0:39:55.800 --> 0:40:02.120 the Ring of Honor? I would suggest certainly not until 0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:10.160 they win something of significance, because that started all of this. Well, 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.200 he had every right to do it. Yeah, he had 0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.640 every right to do it. But Peyton Manning has said 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:18.359 this before. If you're in it in the spring of 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:22.080 that year, you're sure as hell in it, unless you're 0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:26.839 injured and compromised in the August of that year. If 0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:31.600 you're the most important position played on the team in 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:36.600 sports man, that started all of it. That's why when 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.239 people ask about the Ring of Honor, I can't imagine 0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:42.960 because you're going to get halfway booed. And I know 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.759 a lot of stances have softened, but just know this 0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:47.680 to be true. I mean, if you don't believe what 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.200 I've said by now about all this, then you're never 0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.200 gonna But just take my word for it. It would 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.560 not be great. This is not going This would not 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.320 be the all great come together that some people would 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.480 like to suggest it to be just continue to do 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:04.879 what you do and then one of these days when 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:08.640 you win something of significance, and maybe your generation is 0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.480 a lot older and old asses like me are no 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.040 longer with it or capable of understanding what the hell's 0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:17.200 going on in general, then do it right. But right 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:22.160 now it would not be good, zero goodness out of it, 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.360 Dudas Top of the Hour, Right man, Brendan Dude is 0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.879 one of the great dudes out there. Is the Southport 0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:32.680 baseball coach, and he was a member of the championship 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:36.560 New York Green Apples. Correct, These guys actually signed contracts 0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:42.200 and stuff too. Pretty cool, Dudas. Top of the Hour. 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:46.120 Stephen Holder coming up in the five o'clock hour, got 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.360 a lot more for you too, and more about the 0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.400 fever by the way back on her her being Kaitlin 0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:55.800 Clark technical rescinded. So it is all and it should 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.239 have been too. That was the two easiest calls to 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:02.400 make over the course of that game was afterwards making 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:07.080 sure that that team didn't count, and then obviously during 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:10.600 the game, tossing the player with the clothes line. Can't 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:16.000 close line. People in basketball jackasses come on has nothing 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:19.160 to do with anything privilege. It has everything to do 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:23.839 with you being a reckless jackass. I don't think that's 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.440 a privilege, although I will say this, sometimes you look 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.600 around this world, there are a lot of them out there, 0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:32.359 reckless jack assery. It appears to be there's some sort 0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.360 of privilege because it is all too familiar, all too common. 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:40.879 It's wondering three one's seven, two, three, nine, ten seven. 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:44.120 You can do the phones, you can do the tech stream. 0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.560 I'm flexible. Ninety three five, one oh seven five the fan, 0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:52.800 the ride with JMV. 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:54.000 I don't understand. 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:55.080 Where'd you just said? 0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:58.480 Ninety three to five and one oh seven five the fan? 0:42:59.640 --> 0:42:59.960 Do you to? 0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:02.319 I still don't know how you got this Texas kid 0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.719 up to West Lafaette, Indiana. But it was certainly one 0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.120 of the best decisions I ever made, Sorry Boom. I 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.440 chose p due because of its academic reputation and the 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:12.440 opportunity to play in the Big Ten Conference. Little did 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.160 I know I would leave four years later with one 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:16.520 of the most respective degrees in the country, a Big 0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.360 Ten championship, the love of my life, and an opportunity 0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.879 to live out my childhood dream being a professional athlete. 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.200 Did he also pee in the boiler room at the 0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:31.399 Skullhouse while in West Lafayette? Anybody ever do that? Ever 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.680 go to the Skullhouse for a party in West Lafatte 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:35.960 by the way, that's Drew Brees ever go to the 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:39.439 Skullhouse for a party in West Lafayette? Who out there? 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.399 Pete in the boiler room? Pete in the boiler room 0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:43.320 a number of times? 0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.799 That should have made the speech, John, I know, are right. 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:47.880 You should have mentioned that love of my life and 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:53.080 Pete in the boiler room while in West Lafayette. Drew 0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:57.840 Brees right there? Cool as hell. NBA schedule later on 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.839 this week made official. Yes, yeah, I'm waiting for that 0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:04.279 Cacer's nix on Christmas Day on We're gonna see if 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:08.640 it was it Austin Craft No, Dad Bod Sports. We're 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.600 gonna see if dadod Sports was accurate. Who agrees with 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:17.040 the Pacers and the Knicks opening up Christmas Day NBA 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:22.400 activity in Madison Square Garden? Will that happen? Will Dad 0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:24.759 Bod Sports be best? 0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:28.279 At another one, there was another guy we were dang it. 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:32.600 That was Rooster Rooster. Rooster Rooster and Dad bots I 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:37.279 think Rooster got this from dad Bod Sports, though there 0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:42.000 is no other authority necessary after dad Bod Sports. So 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:43.960 what's the day when the schedule is official? 0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:45.239 They haven't really said. 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:46.919 What I think they're going to do with this, John 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.920 is they're going to trickle out the National TV games, 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:52.880 the Christmas Day games, maybe some Martin Luther King Day games, 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.120 and they're like all that throughout the week and then 0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.279 maybe by the end of the week it probably the 0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:58.640 full schedule gets released. 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.240 That's how I'd imagine it going. 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:05.239 Dad Bod Sports. So who's what be on this Pacers 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:09.920 Knicks to start things off on Christmas Day? Do we 0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.960 have any poll? We're gonna tell you what we'll do. 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:18.479 I'll just I'll do a text line poll three one, seven, two, three, nine, 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:21.840 ten seventy yes or no on the Pacers and the 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.719 Knicks Christmas Day to lead we have to have it 0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:28.520 accurate for dad bot Sports. Our guy Dudas is going 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.000 to join us. On the other side. I'm excited Southport 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.080 baseball coach and he is one of the Whiffle Blanks 0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:36.480 and a friend of his show and a friend of ours. 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:40.759 Brenda Dudas, Steven Holder, you and I for the next 0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:44.560 two hours. My advice don't go anywhere. This blank only 0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:46.719 gets better. Ninety three to five and one oh seven 0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:53.120 five The Fan, The Ride with JMV. 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:57.200 I love winning, man, I love winning. 0:45:58.000 --> 0:45:58.800 You hear what I'm saying. 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.399 He's like losing that he three five and one oh 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.320 seven five The Fan It harsh. 0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.840 And Rose co founded the Atlas water bottle brand with 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:19.239 his friend Reed Wlimart played a Boulders Bapples Your big 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:24.400 League Griffe the Gold Champions Will Smithy, No, that's awesome. 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.880 That Green Apples a win on the Old show The 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.239 Call from Last Friday. And you know the greatness of 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:34.440 something when it is the lead into the dunk tossing, 0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:37.920 the dunk Tossing. I don't know if anybody watched dunk 0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:44.120 Tossing last week, but uh, it was outstanding. So Brendan, 0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:46.600 I always want to call him Dudas, so it's going 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:47.880 to be tough for me to call him by his 0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.719 first name. Brendan Dudas, who was a part of the 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:54.360 Green Apples, joins us in a second, Hey quickly. Keith Morland, 0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:59.279 the former Major leaguer, is doing the Southwest Regional Championship 0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.520 game with Louisiana and in West Texas. He was a big 0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.480 fan of Keith Morland. And I know this speaks to 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:06.840 a lot of Cubs fans, which obviously I am not. 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.560 Certainly the Cubs and the Phillies most noted, but I 0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:16.440 like Keith Morland back of the day doing this Southwest 0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:22.920 Region Championship Little League World Series tilt between Louisiana and 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:26.960 Texas West. Right now, Dudas ready on the Andy Moore 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.840 Automotive Group potline. I'm going to have to apologize beforehand. 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:31.960 There's zero away I'm going to be able to reference 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:35.120 him by his first name because I just call him Dudas. 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:38.560 Brendan Dudas, who is the baseball coach at Southport High School, 0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:41.400 is a part of the New York Green Apples in 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:46.200 the Big League whiff A Ball World Series champions and 0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:48.799 he's a friend of ours kind of enough to join 0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.600 us on the Andy More Automotive Group potline. Dudas, what's 0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:52.040 up with you? 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:53.719 What's up? 0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:54.120 John? 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:55.080 How are you? Man? 0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.279 Are you back from wherever you flew to over the 0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.680 weekend and screwed us over and didn't open up even 0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:02.640 though we had to find someplace olf to open up, dude. 0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:06.000 Listen, last three or four days have been an absolute whirlwind. 0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.439 You know, back from Orlando, then immediately on the road 0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:12.200 to Michigan for a wedding, and then so Sunday morning, 0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:14.319 I'm in Michigan and driving back from there. 0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:17.440 But I'm finally back home the wedding. Oh you got 0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.200 dragged to a wedding? Now, was it your friend or 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:21.640 your wife's? 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.600 Yeah, it was It was my cousin. So I was 0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:26.160 the one doing the dragging, all. 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.400 Right, So so she probably didn't want to go in 0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:29.960 this case, right, and you made her go? 0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:30.880 Correct? 0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.719 It was a you know, it was a family member 0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.160 that we needed to catch up with and it was 0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:36.759 a great time. 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:43.600 Switzerland is Brendan Dudis right here on the Andy Moore 0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.440 I Motive Group potlight. Hey, tell folks about this because 0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.520 we were privy to it watching it on Friday. You guys, 0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:54.439 the Green Apples get the championship win. This is big 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:58.640 league whiffle ball. And around here there are some notables. 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:01.759 And it really all began in your backyard. They're off 0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:03.640 of Eppler on the south side, didn't it. 0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:06.600 Yeah, So, I mean I went to the University of 0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:10.759 Minneapolis and played baseball there and I had started this 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:13.920 league in my dorm room as a freshman there, but 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.800 had been playing competitive wiffle ball for a while before 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:20.040 that and got some of my teammates to come out 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.480 for a tournament one day and they all got hooked 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:23.680 and from there. 0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:25.880 This thing really took off. So this is Circle City. 0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:28.200 Whiffle, which is a local league like you mentioned here 0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.480 on the South Side, and from there, like I said, 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:34.040 we really rose to prominence and have since won like 0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:37.640 three national championships with that league, and we travel all 0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.480 around the country playing with Circle City Whiffle, which kind 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:43.359 of led in to us being invited to be some 0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:46.880 one of the inaugural teams for Big League Wiffle, the 0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:50.560 first professional whiffleball league of its kind. 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:54.680 So ever, Yeah, it is amazing, and I want to 0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:58.400 get back to the roots because you have an incredibly 0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:01.800 unique field, a whif football field, and really it's every 0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.879 dude's growing up dream, and really when you get older, 0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:07.560 it's your dream too to have your very own wiffle 0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:10.680 ball field in your backyard. And that's exactly what you 0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:12.600 put together. It's called the dirt yard. 0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:15.600 Yeah, and that's really what we made our name on. 0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:17.960 I mean before we were actually good at wiffleball. We 0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:20.760 had I would call one of the world's best wiffleball fields, 0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:24.560 especially considering it's in a backyard, which is where whiffleball 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:25.440 is meant to be played. 0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:28.720 It's all thanks to Mike Speak and Americ Fence. 0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:31.520 He you know, he joined the league back in twenty 0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:33.480 eighteen and was like, dude, this, I really want to 0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:35.200 take this to the next level. And I was like, 0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:36.919 what do you mean by that, Mike, And he sent 0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:39.880 me the drawing of this stadium built out of cedar, 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:43.399 with lights and party decks and all this stuff, and. 0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:44.200 Brought it to life. 0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:46.840 And so the dirt yard has, you know, taken on 0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.359 a life of its own, and you know, I think 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.320 even exists on a stage by itself, you know, separate 0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:55.760 from Circle City Whiffle and being its own famous entities. 0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:59.080 So really blessed and grateful to have that, and honestly 0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:01.799 for amazing parents to let that party go down in 0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:03.720 the backyard every single week of the summer. 0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:06.719 Had no doubt about that. Brendan Dudas, also the baseball 0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:10.400 coach at south Ford and educator at south Ford High School, 0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:13.880 is on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline with us. 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.360 How many years did it take to get you know, 0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.719 obviously started at the dirt yard in Circle City and 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:23.120 then to see you know, this transpire with Big League 0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:24.799 whiffle ball. How many years was that? 0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:28.640 Well, we started the league, it's been over a decade now. 0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:32.520 Freshman year in my dorm, traveled to our first national 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:36.360 tournament back in twenty sixteen and got throttled like thirty 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.960 to nothing in our first game, and I was like, dude, 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:42.960 you know what am I getting myself into? And from 0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:44.880 there it was just sort of kind of building on 0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:48.960 that and adding players and getting you know, competitive guys 0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:51.960 out to the field to give it a shot. And 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.480 you know, once those you indie guys jumped on board, 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:59.560 Will Smithie, Dylan Jones, Reed Werner, Mike Whitty, we really 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:03.080 took off as a league. And since you know, twenty 0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:06.200 twenty twenty twenty one, we have been I would say, 0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:10.000 one of the best leagues in the entire country, which 0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:13.400 you know, gave us the notoriety that allowed them to 0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:15.799 invite us out to be part of this big league 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:16.680 wiffle venture. 0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.720 That's awesome, and I know that there have been stories 0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:22.879 written before from the store. I know Doyle came down 0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:25.319 and did a story on you guys. I know Derek 0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:28.520 Schultz has been down. I think he did something live 0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:32.279 with Greg's Network as well once upon a time. So 0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.839 you've certainly had the notoriety. But did you ever think 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:37.319 that it was going to take you. I thought it 0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:40.000 was cool as hell watching you and guys from around 0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:43.000 here play on ESPN two. They called it the Ohow 0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:46.279 on Friday, but it was ESPN two the entire day. 0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.719 That was awesome to watch you guys do that and 0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:50.800 fun as hell, dude. 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:52.920 Just I mean, surreal, is what I keep saying. What 0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:56.959 I keep telling people, like looking around and signing autographs 0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.239 and seeing that people are showing up to watch us. 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:02.160 Like you said, I mean, it's a childhood dream. 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.360 And I always, like, you know, growing up, I practice 0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:06.759 my signature and all this kind of thinking one day 0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.080 I'd be a major League baseball player. 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:11.520 And it's just funny where life takes you. 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:13.640 And it turns out I'm signing a bunch of autographs 0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:16.640 on plastic whiffleballs instead of leather baseballs. 0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:19.840 But it has just been surreal. 0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:21.799 It's like a dream kind of still waiting to wake 0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:24.840 up from. But I'm just enjoying it while it lasts. 0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:26.719 Well, we say this all the time. You're one of 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:29.920 the best dudes around. And even though there are times 0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:33.560 when I reference it as whiffle blanking and things like that, 0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:38.360 it's always with love and only in Jess, because I 0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:41.200 know how much hard work you put into it and 0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:45.080 to see all this come to fruition and really evolve 0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:48.359 into what it is, you know, it has to be 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:52.040 surreal for you in that respect too, And you know what, 0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:54.759 you get to do something and rarely is that the 0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:56.719 case where you can have a hell of a lot 0:53:56.760 --> 0:53:58.880 of fun while you're doing it makes it worthwhile? 0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.080 Goodness, Yeah, I mean a lot of times you throw 0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:05.640 around the phrase professional and that can tend to you know, 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:08.040 ruin and experience ruin a hobby or whatever once you 0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:11.160 start getting paid to do it. I think what makes 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:14.799 the Green Apples special our group, which is we've all 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:19.680 have a storied background together being part of you know, 0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:22.879 one organization, but we have a ton of fun and 0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:25.000 we interact with the fans, and we dance and we 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.960 do stupid stuff out there on the field and really 0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:30.840 just got to continue to remember the roots of this, 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:33.520 which is at the child's game and we're out here 0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.000 getting paid to play it, and we got to remember 0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:37.960 to have fun and enjoy the moment. 0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:40.879 So those out there that aren't privy, you guys use 0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:45.000 the old school wiffle balls. Now, when we played wiffleball, 0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.799 we modified a lot of things, from you know, the fields, 0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:51.520 to the bats, to the strike zones. You know, we 0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:54.600 put kegs out on second base and things. We all 0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.480 did that certainly growing up. But what are the rules 0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:00.800 to big league whiffle that you want to World championship 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:01.239 last week? 0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:04.279 As as Faro, Yeah, so I think what made the 0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:06.960 Circle City whiffle guys so dangerous is that Big League 0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:10.120 Wiffle and Circle City both use the skinny yellow bat, 0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:14.479 so the whiffleball bat that everybody's used to. Now, where 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:18.840 Big League whiffle differs is that they allow altering of 0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:21.120 the whiffle ball. And so what guys will do is 0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:23.440 take like a steak knife, a really sharp knife, and 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:28.520 carve lines on the whole side of the ball which 0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:28.960 cause it. 0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:31.560 Whenever you see a video of the ball breaking. 0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:35.239 Like crazy, typically that's an altered whiffle ball. And so 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.200 forty two feet pitching different distance seventy five mile per 0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.800 hour cap but seventy five from forty two. It's getting 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:45.080 on you. It feels like one hundred right right, And 0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:46.520 not to mention it's breaking as much. 0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:48.640 I mean it's like a cartoon. It's like a quark 0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:49.520 scrawl coming at you. 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.040 Man, good luck, sound effects and all. 0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:53.719 Yeah, you got to kind of guess and hope you 0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:58.040 guess right. And it's difficult. But the similarities between Big 0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.799 League Whiffle and Circle City Whiffle is sort of what 0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:04.399 allowed us to be so successful. The fielding aspect, which 0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:06.520 I kind of have made my name on, and then 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:09.520 the base running aspect. Linda hand for there to be 0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:12.200 you know, some strategies, some IQ and play, and then 0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:14.839 some athleticism are well as well. And I know our 0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:17.200 group is old. You know, we're the dads of the league, 0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:20.880 but we are still a very athletic bunch that pride 0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:22.680 ourselves on that facet of the game. 0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:26.000 That is it's awesome too. I I when I was 0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:29.120 watching there's there's a lot of it. I didn't understand 0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:31.640 it until I watched it. But I was joking to 0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:34.239 you before it started. I said, let's go do this, 0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:37.359 make some contact. And I was being serious because it's 0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:39.880 difficult as hell to make contact doing that. 0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:42.520 If you know, if you noticed, I was only playing 0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:44.759 defense in the championship because I think I had an 0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:48.399 eight at bat streak of strikeouts leading leading into that game. 0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:50.600 I'm not gonna mention you DH four or something. I'm 0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:52.480 not mentioning that on this show, Buddy, come on. 0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.319 So SO had to turn the focus to making some 0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:56.400 highlight reel plays. 0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:57.000 And I'm glad. 0:56:57.320 --> 0:56:59.120 I'm glad the final ball came to me and I 0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:02.440 got to show off a little bit there hopefully results 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:07.040 in BLW Gold Glove Award. But man, the other guy 0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:10.719 stepped up, especially Will Smithy, who is being called, you know, 0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:13.080 probably the best football player on the planet now. 0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:14.840 And he's a Center Grove graduate. 0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:16.439 Is he Oh, he went to he went to see 0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:18.280 g IW. He's from Greenwood. I did not know he 0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:19.880 went to Santa Grove. Is he up on the Hall 0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:21.520 of Fame wall that I'll walk through all the. 0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.680 Time, I believe, so I want to say he was 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:25.960 he was all state and baseball. 0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:27.760 He'll he'll know, and I'm sure he's gonna get mad 0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:28.000 at me. 0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:30.400 One of these days. Is to give us a picture. 0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:32.520 We're gonna put Brandon Ray's photo up there too. We'll 0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:34.240 let's put his up there at some point, We're just 0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:36.080 going to walk through and just put it up there. 0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:39.080 So yeah, so yeah, the Green Apples have a couple 0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:42.080 of indie guys. So Will is from Center Grove and 0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:46.440 then Reed Warner graduated from Greenwood High School, Okay, and 0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:49.840 then the Naturals, which is owned by Kevin Costner, is 0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:52.880 the team that Mike Whitty plays on, and Whitty graduated 0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:55.280 from l n UP on the North Side. 0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:57.520 Now, is that is that the Mic to plays hoop 0:57:57.560 --> 0:57:57.919 with us? 0:57:58.840 --> 0:57:59.320 That's him? 0:57:59.520 --> 0:57:59.920 That's him? 0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:00.560 Unbelievable? 0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:04.600 What is so? What Mike that plays basketball with us 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:07.120 at South I don't think Cale's played with Mike before, 0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:09.680 has he? Because Mike, Mike's one of those that may 0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:11.440 end up getting taken off the list because we never 0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:12.280 see his ass. 0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:14.360 Yeah, we don't see him. But let me tell you 0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:17.920 about Mike man. He this league nerved him a little bit. 0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:20.680 Seventy five mile per hour pitch limit was no good 0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:23.040 for Mike. But Mike can throw a whiffleball one hundred 0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:25.360 and six miles per hour on the radar he can, 0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:29.480 which makes him one of the most special pitchers in 0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:30.400 the entire world. 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:34.600 He's awesome, So he was, so he played. He plays 0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.920 for a team owned by actor Kevin Costner. 0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:39.480 Correct by Kevin Costner. 0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:41.800 Yeah, so that's kind of the cool thing about Big 0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:45.840 League Whiffle is there's some really big time owners. Like 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:50.760 the Green Apples are owned by Gary viner Chuck. The 0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:54.919 Atlanta Ballers are owned by Julio Jones and Nelly, which 0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:57.680 is pretty cool. Dude Perfect owns the Dallas Pandas it's 0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:01.040 it's just a whole list of really cool people and 0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:02.760 they show up to games. They come and they sit 0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:04.520 in the owner suite and it's pretty awesome. 0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:07.880 Yes, that's great. Brenda Dudas of south Ford High School. 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:11.280 He is the baseball coach and the educator and a 0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:13.400 friend of ours. He's a member of the New York 0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:17.160 Green Apples Big League Whiffle, the world champions as of 0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:20.160 last week, and Dudas is on the Andy Moore Automotive 0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:22.320 Group potline. We'll tell the folks out there, this is 0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:26.479 a deal where you actually sign contracts and get paid too. 0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:27.479 Uh huh. 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:30.160 Yeah, So I am I'm on one of the middle 0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:32.560 tiers I make. You know, I signed a two year 0:59:32.600 --> 0:59:36.160 deal and I make about a coaching stipend per year, 0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.880 which is pretty cool. And there's some guys that make 0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:41.640 a little more than me. Will smithe included, and then 0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:45.360 you know everywhere in between. So everybody in the league 0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:47.960 is on one to three year deals, which is, you know, 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:51.160 really cool to be able to say about whiffleball. And 0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:53.800 then once that deal expires, you become a free agent. 0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:56.840 You're subject to trading, you know, being traded at any 0:59:56.840 --> 1:00:00.280 point during your contract. And you know, these are owners 1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:02.600 are really taking it seriously, which I think speaks to 1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:06.720 sort of the rise of all sports like pickleball, darts, cornhole, 1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:09.800 whiffleball is trying to carve out it's it's kind of 1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:11.000 segment in that market. 1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:15.160 So Brendon Dudis is with us. You mentioned there are 1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:18.200 two other dudes. Reid Warner is one from Greenwood. I 1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:20.640 think does he work at Lily? Did I see that accurately? 1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:22.320 That was on the screen? Is that where he works? 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:23.600 Uh? 1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:24.880 I I don't know. 1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:27.360 That's I took it. I took a guess that he 1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:29.880 went to Ron Colly, but he went to Greenwood. High school. 1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:31.880 Yeah, he's a Greenwood. Okay, we all went to U 1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:32.520 Indy together. 1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:34.919 I thought anybody thought the last name of Warner ended 1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:36.560 up going to Ron Colly in high school. But I 1:00:36.600 --> 1:00:37.160 guess I'm wrong. 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:38.439 Warners, the Warner's the guy. 1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:40.960 If you've seen his picture, he looks exactly like Adam 1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:41.680 Driver Kylo. 1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:43.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:45.920 Really hard to miss. Yeah, I think he gets that 1:00:45.960 --> 1:00:46.840 comparison all the time. 1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:49.040 Now, how'd you guys all? Because you got you got 1:00:49.040 --> 1:00:51.520 a couple that are from Saint Louis, one from the 1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:54.680 one those like Blake Mental is from Minnesota, and I mean, 1:00:54.760 --> 1:00:56.439 you guys are kind of all over the map there 1:00:56.480 --> 1:00:58.600 a little bit. How'd you guys? You guys, they just 1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:00.560 all pick you from a pool of layers? Is that? 1:01:00.600 --> 1:01:01.360 And how that happens? 1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:04.360 So now that's where the background comes into play. So 1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:07.720 we're all part of and care deeply about this National 1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:11.240 Whiffle League Association, which is Clean Ball, Yellow Bat, and 1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:13.680 it's actually where we're heading this coming weekend in Saint 1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:17.160 Louis to play that tournament. And the premise behind this 1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:19.240 is that you know, you take an all star team 1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:20.120 from your league. 1:01:19.920 --> 1:01:22.600 And you go to this tournament and compete to. 1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:25.040 Call yourself the you know, the national champion. We've won 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:28.800 this tournament three times. The two Skibby's, the brother brothers, 1:01:28.840 --> 1:01:33.120 are longtime yellow bat players and then the left lefty, 1:01:33.160 --> 1:01:35.960 Tyler Flackney is another one that's played yellow bat forever. 1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:39.200 Soone we put this team together and they announced the rules, 1:01:39.360 --> 1:01:43.160 you know, yellow bat, base running, fielding. The Green Apples 1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:45.360 shot up the power rankings as a team that had 1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:49.000 a ton of experience playing this style, and we really 1:01:49.040 --> 1:01:51.160 felt like our chances of winning the title were strong 1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:54.000 and went out there and put our you know, put 1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:55.000 our money where our mouth was. 1:01:55.080 --> 1:01:57.800 So who's the governing body of this and do they 1:01:57.920 --> 1:02:00.920 encourage kind of out outrageous fun behavior. 1:02:02.920 --> 1:02:05.600 I would there's probably really no governing bodies, Okay, cool, 1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:07.640 that's run. 1:02:07.480 --> 1:02:09.640 By the players. Yeah. I think that's what's unique about 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:13.080 whippleball is like from league to league, the rules are. 1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:16.439 So different and the styles are so different, and that's 1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:18.240 why we try to get out there and play as 1:02:18.320 --> 1:02:21.840 many different styles as possible, from unlimited pitch speed to 1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:25.960 lob ball and everywhere in between. So I do think 1:02:26.120 --> 1:02:27.680 like the teams that are able to go out and 1:02:27.720 --> 1:02:30.480 have fun and not take themselves so seriously end up 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:34.360 lasting longer and having more success because of it, because 1:02:34.400 --> 1:02:36.919 otherwise you're going to burn out and you know, lose 1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:37.720 your cool over it. 1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:40.680 Well, and then the other thing that and that's the 1:02:40.680 --> 1:02:43.560 one thing I didn't notice because there was a lot 1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:48.080 of jumping around and excitement, but it seemed like that 1:02:48.120 --> 1:02:51.160 both teams were all kind of cool with everything. There 1:02:51.200 --> 1:02:53.400 was no jack assery if you will going on there. 1:02:54.520 --> 1:02:57.080 Absolutely, and I can't say that that's the case all 1:02:57.120 --> 1:02:59.919 the time, Like there are games that definitely get pretty intent, 1:03:01.800 --> 1:03:04.280 and you know, we handle it on the field. There's 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:06.440 typically never umpires out there, so you have to make 1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:09.080 calls yourself, and that leads to arguments, and it's I 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:10.280 mean the same thing as open gym. 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:12.959 Right yeah, well, I mean, can you imagine if Michael 1:03:13.000 --> 1:03:14.560 Landis were out there with you guys, it'd be an 1:03:14.600 --> 1:03:15.480 argument every. 1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:18.280 Pitch exactly, and then you know, after the game, you 1:03:18.360 --> 1:03:20.880 squashed it until until we play ball game again. 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:23.880 So we're all, you know, we're all grown ups about it. 1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:27.280 Man. I love it, though, I I I'm really happy 1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:28.960 for you. I am, and I want to I'm going 1:03:29.040 --> 1:03:31.040 to tell folks out there that. Yeah, I know a 1:03:31.040 --> 1:03:33.320 lot because you went to U India and obviously your 1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:36.640 your circle is rather large, especially you know, high school 1:03:36.720 --> 1:03:39.800 Southport being a baseball coach. But hell of a dude 1:03:40.000 --> 1:03:42.800 right there. Man, I'm so happy for you. And the 1:03:42.800 --> 1:03:45.400 one thing I know about dude is is you work 1:03:45.480 --> 1:03:49.400 your ass off, whether it's wiffle ball, educating, you know, 1:03:49.520 --> 1:03:52.720 baseball coaching at Southport, or a big ass boulder in 1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:56.320 your front yard too. So that also made some news. 1:03:56.760 --> 1:03:59.640 Now you're a Southsider and I'd like drove by to 1:03:59.640 --> 1:04:02.400 see you. I probably like Elvis stalking, but I wanted 1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:05.040 to see this big ass boulder in your front yard 1:04:05.040 --> 1:04:07.440 that gained notoriety a couple of years ago, did it not. 1:04:09.680 --> 1:04:10.360 Massive? Yeah? 1:04:10.400 --> 1:04:14.800 So we're just over a year removed from me finding 1:04:14.840 --> 1:04:17.040 a boulder in the side of my yard and digging 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:20.200 it up and eventually involving a crane that came out 1:04:20.240 --> 1:04:23.360 and pulled this boulder out in epic fashion, and it 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:26.000 turned into this entire boulder saga. And now if you're 1:04:26.040 --> 1:04:29.160 on social media, there's four or five guys also digging 1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:32.880 boulders out of their yards. But I mean, we're talking 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:36.240 like one hundred million views total across a couple different 1:04:36.320 --> 1:04:40.800 videos and kind of launched me into this like unintentional 1:04:40.920 --> 1:04:44.480 content creator, influencer lifestyle. Yeah, you know, I was like, well, shoot, 1:04:44.480 --> 1:04:47.800 I got three hundred thousand followers across the four social 1:04:47.840 --> 1:04:50.440 media pages. I guess I got to start making videos. 1:04:50.520 --> 1:04:53.480 And you know, that's what I've done and sort of 1:04:53.480 --> 1:04:57.800 the premise behind my online personalities just work your ass off, right, 1:04:57.840 --> 1:04:58.480 work as hard. 1:04:58.360 --> 1:05:01.040 As you can, you do grind. 1:05:00.920 --> 1:05:03.080 And if you can't figure something out, you don't know 1:05:03.120 --> 1:05:04.960 how to do it, then then go figure it out, 1:05:05.040 --> 1:05:07.280 you know, try it, fail and try again. 1:05:07.400 --> 1:05:10.480 So I think, you know, and then I had Oliver. 1:05:10.520 --> 1:05:12.760 We had Oliver two and a half years ago, my son, 1:05:12.880 --> 1:05:15.640 And really it all just comes down to just I'm 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:19.240 hoping my boys, my students, my players all see, you know, 1:05:19.240 --> 1:05:21.760 what a grinder I am, and they see that how 1:05:21.840 --> 1:05:23.920 much you can accomplish and what good things come your 1:05:23.920 --> 1:05:25.640 way if you just refuse to quit. 1:05:25.840 --> 1:05:28.000 And so that's kind of my story. 1:05:28.240 --> 1:05:31.120 I tell people this all the time, and then I 1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:33.080 think they kind of look at me as a jackass 1:05:33.120 --> 1:05:35.760 and disregard anything I say. Most of the time. Dude, 1:05:35.800 --> 1:05:38.720 it's but I say, this is the type of leader 1:05:39.160 --> 1:05:43.960 that you want in education and in sports in Indiana, 1:05:44.440 --> 1:05:48.720 for youth sports and education, You're it. You're like, you know, 1:05:48.880 --> 1:05:51.640 people all the time kind of cuss about the younger generation, 1:05:51.880 --> 1:05:57.160 but you're exactly what all of us old schoolers talk about, 1:05:57.200 --> 1:06:01.400 what we went through and what is necessary today. You 1:06:01.440 --> 1:06:03.320 are perfect for that mold too. And I try to 1:06:03.360 --> 1:06:05.960 tell everybody that that may not know you, because a 1:06:06.000 --> 1:06:07.600 lot of people do know you, But I try to 1:06:07.600 --> 1:06:10.439 tell everybody that because your role and what you do 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:13.840 is perfect as an educator and a coach and just 1:06:13.880 --> 1:06:16.000 a good overall dude. That's what people are looking for. 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:18.920 Thank you, John, You know, I appreciate that. 1:06:19.040 --> 1:06:20.880 I feel like I'm like getting to that crossroads in 1:06:20.920 --> 1:06:23.919 my career trying to figure out exactly where to take 1:06:23.960 --> 1:06:26.760 that role and where I'm best you know, where I'm 1:06:26.800 --> 1:06:29.320 best served in terms of you know, being a leader 1:06:29.360 --> 1:06:31.640 and stuff like that, and so just still trying to 1:06:31.640 --> 1:06:33.880 figure stuff out like that. But you know, people like 1:06:33.960 --> 1:06:36.680 you saying things like that really means a lot to me. 1:06:36.880 --> 1:06:37.320 Well, thank you. 1:06:37.400 --> 1:06:37.640 Yeah. 1:06:38.000 --> 1:06:41.280 The motivation, It's not like you need my motivation or 1:06:41.360 --> 1:06:43.240 you know the motivation of the friends around you that 1:06:43.240 --> 1:06:45.320 we see all the time to tell you this, but 1:06:45.960 --> 1:06:47.680 you just you show what you do now. I did 1:06:47.800 --> 1:06:49.960 want to ask you about the boulder that people think 1:06:49.960 --> 1:06:51.880 that was like the movie in Sino Man. What was 1:06:51.920 --> 1:06:55.160 the big trendy thing behind the boulder in your front yard? 1:06:56.080 --> 1:06:58.800 So it's like and Sino Man came up so many 1:06:58.800 --> 1:06:59.760 times in the comment section. 1:07:00.120 --> 1:07:01.920 I've never seen this movie and I had to look 1:07:01.960 --> 1:07:02.560 it up and I. 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:07.080 Was like, oh yeah, So between in Sino Man, I 1:07:07.080 --> 1:07:11.160 mean tons of conspiracy theories, dinosaur, a, a ufo, you 1:07:11.240 --> 1:07:15.400 name it. Just I feel like the comment section kind 1:07:15.400 --> 1:07:17.960 of brought together like a couple of corners of the 1:07:18.000 --> 1:07:20.800 Internet that all sort of started arguing about it, calling 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:23.320 me an idiot, what what a waste of time and money, 1:07:24.440 --> 1:07:26.840 telling me what to do with it, telling me how dumb. 1:07:26.680 --> 1:07:28.640 I was for trying certain things. 1:07:29.120 --> 1:07:32.680 Uh. And it was just a perfect storm of a 1:07:32.720 --> 1:07:36.360 comment section in terms of, you know, people feeling like 1:07:36.440 --> 1:07:38.760 they wanted to put their input in there, and that's 1:07:38.800 --> 1:07:41.320 what I think ultimately led to it taking off the 1:07:41.320 --> 1:07:41.760 way it did. 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:45.360 So is that what kind of is it igneous or sedimentary? 1:07:45.600 --> 1:07:47.600 I know it's not volcanic, What kind of rock is it? 1:07:48.400 --> 1:07:49.080 So now you're. 1:07:51.520 --> 1:07:55.880 Ever learned in earth science, is like a lava rock. 1:07:56.000 --> 1:07:58.680 I don't think that's what was sitting in is volcanics, 1:07:58.760 --> 1:08:02.480 lava rock, there's a word for it, Runny, go ahead, 1:08:02.560 --> 1:08:03.240 just help us here. 1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:08.320 And so you're onto something. It's some sort of granite, right. 1:08:08.320 --> 1:08:11.439 I said, sedimentary or igneous. I thought that's like too, 1:08:11.480 --> 1:08:13.520 I remember, yeah, But what. 1:08:13.440 --> 1:08:15.919 I do know about this is being where we are, 1:08:16.000 --> 1:08:19.840 it's probably a glacial erratic, right, So the glaciers passed 1:08:19.840 --> 1:08:22.200 over this area when they you know, started to melt 1:08:22.280 --> 1:08:25.320 and formed lakes and stuff, and sometimes the rocks were 1:08:25.320 --> 1:08:27.640 stuck inside there and they just dropped them off. And 1:08:27.680 --> 1:08:29.719 that's really the only way to explain a ten thousand 1:08:29.720 --> 1:08:35.120 pound rock sitting in my yard here, Indiana. But yeah, 1:08:35.160 --> 1:08:36.960 it's like it's a few different types. But I think 1:08:36.960 --> 1:08:39.479 it's a form of granite and it's got you know, 1:08:39.520 --> 1:08:41.640 a bunch of different rocks kind of smashed together, and 1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:44.320 it's pretty then cool. It's a piece of history, for sure, 1:08:44.400 --> 1:08:46.439 it is. And it's a conversation. 1:08:46.000 --> 1:08:48.880 Piece, tremendous. I think it's about the same age as 1:08:48.920 --> 1:08:51.080 good Haul down there at you, Indy, Isn't. 1:08:50.920 --> 1:08:54.640 It something like that? A couple of years, give me you. 1:08:56.080 --> 1:09:00.600 Brenda Dudas of Southport and Big League with when DoD 1:09:00.600 --> 1:09:02.760 you guys back at it again with the Green Apples. 1:09:03.560 --> 1:09:07.320 So Green Apples get back out there in October. So 1:09:07.360 --> 1:09:09.639 we're done with the regular season, which is a certain 1:09:09.720 --> 1:09:10.680 rule set. 1:09:10.840 --> 1:09:13.320 And then what picks up from. 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:18.120 October to you know, early spring is the offseason tournament circuit, 1:09:18.800 --> 1:09:22.200 so we travel to places like Scottsdale, Arizona's, Saint Louis, 1:09:22.680 --> 1:09:26.000 Dallas and a few other cities will probably put on 1:09:26.040 --> 1:09:29.880 the schedule and just sort of do like a tour, 1:09:30.120 --> 1:09:31.479 so to speak. 1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:34.120 So get a few weeks off of that. 1:09:34.240 --> 1:09:36.360 But now we're focused on Circle City with Fule and 1:09:36.360 --> 1:09:39.719 hopefully going and winning our fourth and record setting national 1:09:39.760 --> 1:09:40.880 title with Circle City. 1:09:41.160 --> 1:09:45.639 So I also gather that you will be unavailable for Sunday. 1:09:46.040 --> 1:09:47.439 You've gathered that correctly. 1:09:48.640 --> 1:09:52.040 Hey, I tell you what we had twelve yesterday and 1:09:52.080 --> 1:09:55.200 then the old guy Landis was trying to shut us down, 1:09:55.640 --> 1:09:58.840 being out guy at seven o'clock on Saturday night. We 1:09:58.880 --> 1:10:02.200 still cobble together. Well, we've got some dudes at one in. 1:10:02.720 --> 1:10:05.040 We got some players that want in on the thread. Here. 1:10:05.240 --> 1:10:06.960 The group we got we got to get them in, man, 1:10:07.120 --> 1:10:10.200 telling me a good group. Let's just say, if you 1:10:10.320 --> 1:10:12.720 see me on Sunday, I will not be a very 1:10:12.760 --> 1:10:16.519 happy person because that means we we lost a lot 1:10:16.560 --> 1:10:18.360 of games on Saturday that we shouldn't have. 1:10:19.439 --> 1:10:21.559 So if all goes well, you will not see me 1:10:21.600 --> 1:10:22.120 on Sunday. 1:10:22.160 --> 1:10:25.320 Well, I will say this. I'm a very good motivator. 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:28.960 I'm motivated Jason Wiseman to open up yesterday after Kevin 1:10:29.040 --> 1:10:32.920 Julian took out five gallons of fluid from his swollen knee. 1:10:32.960 --> 1:10:34.680 So if I can do that, I think I can 1:10:34.720 --> 1:10:36.160 motivate anybody to get at you. 1:10:36.240 --> 1:10:40.360 Listen, man, when when the consequence is that JMV gets 1:10:40.400 --> 1:10:42.760 on air and drags your name to the public, and 1:10:43.000 --> 1:10:44.600 your boss has come to you and say, dude, this, 1:10:44.640 --> 1:10:46.680 why is J ANDV talking so much crap about you? 1:10:47.120 --> 1:10:49.000 Then you tend to get the keys and open up 1:10:49.000 --> 1:10:49.320 the gym. 1:10:49.520 --> 1:10:57.759 Exactly. Yes, that doesn't break the backboard either, That's exactly it. Hey, buddy, 1:10:57.760 --> 1:11:01.840 we're proud of you. You're great dude, great friend. And 1:11:02.120 --> 1:11:05.040 we loved watching last week The New York Green Apples, 1:11:05.280 --> 1:11:08.000 And thanks for telling the story. Man, it's very interesting. 1:11:08.000 --> 1:11:10.719 I appreciate you more than you know and maybe maybe 1:11:10.760 --> 1:11:12.200 we see you coming up on Sunday. 1:11:12.960 --> 1:11:14.840 I appreciate you, John, thank you for having me on. 1:11:14.880 --> 1:11:17.639 You got that. Brendan Dudis right there Southport High School 1:11:17.640 --> 1:11:20.720 baseball coach. He's an educator and if you could not 1:11:20.880 --> 1:11:24.760 tell that is Caleb can a test to this. A 1:11:24.920 --> 1:11:25.960 fantastic dude. 1:11:26.000 --> 1:11:26.920 He's awesome man. 1:11:27.400 --> 1:11:30.120 So blessed in my year here living in India to 1:11:30.160 --> 1:11:31.080 cross paths with him. 1:11:31.120 --> 1:11:31.679 He's so cool. 1:11:31.760 --> 1:11:34.040 He is a great guy. And we got to drag 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:37.280 around Mike Landis too for the better part of twenty minutes, 1:11:37.320 --> 1:11:38.759 which always makes me happy. 1:11:38.840 --> 1:11:40.360 The group chat's loving it out. 1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:43.640 Why don't your guys just cancel? It's seven o'clock and 1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:51.040 you don't have enough? Yeah, man, I wish you guys. 1:11:51.880 --> 1:11:53.479 See here's the other thing too. You know how many 1:11:53.520 --> 1:11:56.280 people I hear from on social media all the time 1:11:56.320 --> 1:12:00.439 that want to be a part of this too. Sometimes 1:12:00.479 --> 1:12:02.519 you're going to have to replace. I mean, Dormelio is 1:12:02.560 --> 1:12:06.960 one thing, because he's injured. I don't know about Landis man, 1:12:07.120 --> 1:12:10.599 and I made Jason Wiseman come in. They literally drained 1:12:10.680 --> 1:12:15.840 Kevin Julian the orthopedic surgeon drained about three gallons out 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:18.760 of his knee the day prior, and he still came 1:12:18.800 --> 1:12:23.280 in and opened up. Well done. We got to ask 1:12:23.360 --> 1:12:25.720 some ballsy dudes out there. Let me tell you now, 1:12:25.840 --> 1:12:28.120 quick break will come back. That is our good friend Brendan. 1:12:28.280 --> 1:12:31.759 Do this right there and you could tell uh, fantastic dude, 1:12:31.920 --> 1:12:36.200 Southport baseball coach, educator Big Boulder in his front yard 1:12:36.240 --> 1:12:40.519 on the south side, massive influencer. I did not know 1:12:40.600 --> 1:12:46.000 he had all those followers social media wise, and most 1:12:46.040 --> 1:12:48.680 importantly a really good dude and friend of ours. All right, 1:12:48.760 --> 1:12:50.519 quick break will come back. Stephen Holder is going to 1:12:50.600 --> 1:12:52.639 join us at the top of the hour. You guys 1:12:52.720 --> 1:12:54.559 feel like you need a weather update, We got it 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:54.840 for you. 1:12:57.920 --> 1:12:59.559 The ride with JMV. 1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:02.680 You guys can stick that too. Seriously, you guys want 1:13:02.720 --> 1:13:04.920 to stick that stick that one where the sun don't 1:13:04.920 --> 1:13:05.559 shine that. 1:13:05.640 --> 1:13:08.799 He three five and one oh seven five the fan. 1:13:12.840 --> 1:13:15.600 The Green Apples and our good friend Brendan Dudas of 1:13:15.680 --> 1:13:21.360 south Ford. So you see Weiseman mentioned this in our 1:13:21.560 --> 1:13:25.320 text group. He said, hey Dudas, when did the Green 1:13:25.360 --> 1:13:28.160 Apples play again? Aka? When are you going to be 1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:34.520 unable to open the GM. That's that's exactly right. Wiseman's 1:13:34.520 --> 1:13:35.759 got to do it again on Sunday. 1:13:35.880 --> 1:13:38.559 And if you were listening to JFV to his live read, 1:13:38.640 --> 1:13:42.960 and that's why I was laughing right there, cracking up 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:46.479 back here about that, because that is so funny. 1:13:46.479 --> 1:13:47.120 It's so true. 1:13:47.360 --> 1:13:49.800 I know what, and you know you would think that 1:13:49.840 --> 1:13:54.040 I would want to I I played my last five times. 1:13:54.080 --> 1:13:58.600 I've been horrible five times in a row now, so 1:13:58.680 --> 1:14:02.559 I probably need to rest. But we got to go 1:14:03.760 --> 1:14:06.479 so and then think about it too, because of the 1:14:06.479 --> 1:14:10.519 green apples and that success and the dudas has been gone. 1:14:10.560 --> 1:14:13.320 And then I mentioned Wiseman got injured because he played 1:14:13.320 --> 1:14:16.360 at the ARC and that thing, that tournament and then 1:14:16.439 --> 1:14:18.840 had like three gallons of fluid taken off his knee. 1:14:18.840 --> 1:14:22.519 But he's still opened up. Yesterday, good group yesterday though. Caleb, 1:14:23.080 --> 1:14:26.439 And the one thing we know, Caleb producing the show. 1:14:27.360 --> 1:14:31.280 He's going to be everywhere I go to play, and 1:14:31.320 --> 1:14:34.320 there's no wiggle room around that. He goes. I don't 1:14:34.320 --> 1:14:36.200 even ask you anymore. I just go, yeah, we got 1:14:36.200 --> 1:14:36.639 two here. 1:14:37.680 --> 1:14:41.280 What you're doing? The free throw thing coming up. 1:14:41.240 --> 1:14:43.719 Right, I gotta do that coming up on Saturday. So yeah, 1:14:43.920 --> 1:14:46.360 they're having games out there at the State Fair. This 1:14:46.439 --> 1:14:49.280 is from eleven into one. And during the halftime of 1:14:49.320 --> 1:14:53.320 these games, I have a free throw shooting contest and 1:14:53.760 --> 1:14:56.240 my sites are bent right now, so I got to 1:14:56.280 --> 1:14:58.479 find Speaking of groove, I've got to fight a little 1:14:58.520 --> 1:15:01.679 bit of groove here to that my sights. You should 1:15:01.800 --> 1:15:04.599 my sites are bent, and you could tell, folks, I 1:15:04.640 --> 1:15:08.320 loved it yesterday, even though I sucked that it was 1:15:08.320 --> 1:15:10.880 about one hundred and five degrees in that gym. 1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:12.960 Can you can you take the audience? 1:15:13.360 --> 1:15:15.840 I love it, and it explained why you love a 1:15:15.880 --> 1:15:18.960 hot gym more I love anybody I've ever met. I 1:15:19.040 --> 1:15:24.439 want I always feel that when you're playing something that 1:15:24.920 --> 1:15:30.280 you have to sweat profusely, and in the winter time 1:15:30.400 --> 1:15:33.240 most other times of the year, I've got to wear 1:15:33.360 --> 1:15:38.360 long sleeve shirts and all that crap. And I want 1:15:38.400 --> 1:15:42.120 to play someplace where you go in and you're wearing 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:45.679 a tank top and shorts and you are sweating your 1:15:45.880 --> 1:15:48.920 ass off. I love that, and I want to get loose. 1:15:48.960 --> 1:15:51.840 I guess I'm fifty six and a half, so there's 1:15:51.960 --> 1:15:54.840 no better time than right now for me to completely 1:15:54.880 --> 1:15:59.439 get loose. I just think it feels better. Plus, since 1:15:59.479 --> 1:16:03.320 all good friend and Kurt carries on his watch how 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:06.800 many calories he burns, I like I coincide. You know, 1:16:06.920 --> 1:16:09.280 yesterday it was like twelve hundred. Last week at Saint 1:16:09.400 --> 1:16:11.840 Jude's it was like thirteen hundred. And then I know 1:16:12.000 --> 1:16:15.120 the calorie deficit that I'm working from on a Sunday 1:16:15.760 --> 1:16:18.080 when I go to work drinking. So I know that, 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:19.960 so I kind of set the table. 1:16:20.120 --> 1:16:21.360 You need an Apple watch. 1:16:21.880 --> 1:16:25.040 Actually, I'm going to retract that because I can't imagine 1:16:25.080 --> 1:16:25.559 you will. 1:16:27.080 --> 1:16:27.920 All kind of stuff. 1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:30.479 Yeah, I think I have a watch at home that 1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:34.040 will will show my cat. I may not. 1:16:34.240 --> 1:16:34.680 I don't know. 1:16:35.080 --> 1:16:37.080 It's a little bit older, but I thought maybe it 1:16:37.120 --> 1:16:40.080 would show the calories burned. But I don't know if 1:16:40.080 --> 1:16:43.400 I can wear a watch playing basketball. That's a little weird. 1:16:44.800 --> 1:16:47.000 That's why I let Kurt wear it. It's not weird 1:16:47.000 --> 1:16:49.599 to him, and then he can just tell me, hell, 1:16:49.640 --> 1:16:52.160 he's not. I'm assuming that I'm somewhere in the neighborhood. 1:16:53.240 --> 1:16:55.320 But now, seriously, that was that was fun as hell. 1:16:55.920 --> 1:16:58.720 Good conversation. Brenda Dudis the podcast one oh seventy five, 1:16:58.760 --> 1:17:01.479 thefan dot Com Andy's suggests that the boulder in his 1:17:01.600 --> 1:17:04.800 front yard is igneous. So I was pretty much right. 1:17:05.320 --> 1:17:07.639 That's like the one thing that I remember from Earth 1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:14.960 science is sedimentary, igneous, and volcanic. Are there? They're only three? 1:17:15.160 --> 1:17:18.600 Right, igneous. I'm looking up the definition of please do 1:17:18.720 --> 1:17:23.320 this rock. Igneous rocks are formed through the cooling and 1:17:23.880 --> 1:17:28.800 solidific solidification of magma or lava. So you're telling me 1:17:29.400 --> 1:17:32.960 the rock that was sitting in Brendan Dudas's yard in. 1:17:33.760 --> 1:17:38.880 Southwest how is that no volcanic rock? That's not no volcanics, 1:17:38.920 --> 1:17:44.400 not a form of rock. No, Like, that's that's basically. 1:17:44.000 --> 1:17:47.080 Igneous, okay, like, but it's just it's cooled down into 1:17:47.120 --> 1:17:48.080 a solid form. 1:17:48.240 --> 1:17:52.120 So it's probably not volcanic here in Central Indiana. 1:17:52.800 --> 1:17:58.479 I'm gonna guess not, but maybe I'm wrong. Ah, I 1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:03.200 think that's a safe guess. Metamorphic is the third one metamorphic. 1:18:03.600 --> 1:18:07.200 Sedimentary metamorphic that's metamorphic. 1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:11.160 Are good for Informer Major League catcher Tucker Barnhart and 1:18:11.200 --> 1:18:14.760 I have this at home. If you remember when I 1:18:14.800 --> 1:18:18.080 got knocked down last spring and it took me forever 1:18:18.160 --> 1:18:21.680 to get up, and I feel like I play I 1:18:21.760 --> 1:18:24.759 play like I'm younger than fifty six. I fall down 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:29.200 like about eighty six, and then I get back up 1:18:29.400 --> 1:18:32.360 like I'm about one hundred and six. So when I 1:18:32.439 --> 1:18:36.960 fell down back in the spring, Tucker Barnhart sent me 1:18:37.280 --> 1:18:42.120 as a gift a life Alert watch. Would the life 1:18:42.120 --> 1:18:44.799 alert I have not checked? Does that have a calorie 1:18:44.800 --> 1:18:48.360 burnoff on the life alert? So here's the problem with that, Tucker. 1:18:49.280 --> 1:18:51.880 If it gets hit and then all of a sudden, 1:18:51.960 --> 1:18:54.720 the cops come out or the ambulance or first responders 1:18:54.720 --> 1:18:58.800 come out because they think that my health is compromised. Right, 1:18:59.080 --> 1:19:01.120 I don't know if you can play that wearing basketball 1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:03.680 life alert. I got one. It's all my bed at 1:19:03.720 --> 1:19:06.400 us right next to me at home. So you're saying 1:19:06.960 --> 1:19:10.559 that life alert yeah, because he's saying life alert count 1:19:10.600 --> 1:19:13.960 shirt calories, I don't know if it does or not. 1:19:14.040 --> 1:19:14.880 I'd have to check. 1:19:15.000 --> 1:19:18.360 Because the life alert I remember is those commercials where 1:19:18.360 --> 1:19:21.280 it's like what eight hundred You know, I didn't know 1:19:21.320 --> 1:19:24.120 they were making smart watches now, and I was going 1:19:24.200 --> 1:19:27.000 to give it to my mom, but my mom would 1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:30.080 be tapping that thing every five minutes every time. 1:19:30.200 --> 1:19:31.960 Oh I wait a minute, I can't wait for this 1:19:32.040 --> 1:19:34.760 dish all that's scared. I can't do that. You know, 1:19:34.800 --> 1:19:38.240 I was good because she actually fell a couple of 1:19:38.320 --> 1:19:41.000 weeks back and then it was like three in the 1:19:41.040 --> 1:19:43.679 morning and somebody down in Orangeburg had to come get 1:19:43.680 --> 1:19:46.840 her up. And that scares the absolute crap out of me. 1:19:46.960 --> 1:19:49.960 This is true, and this is sincere. That scares the 1:19:50.160 --> 1:19:54.200 crap out of me. And you know, luckily, she's got 1:19:54.200 --> 1:19:57.320 some folks down in Orangeburg that will help. I think 1:19:57.360 --> 1:19:59.320 she's run awful lot of folks that also would help. 1:19:59.360 --> 1:20:01.519 But she also has a lot of friends that would help. 1:20:02.040 --> 1:20:04.639 But if she had the life alert, then that thing 1:20:04.680 --> 1:20:09.840 would be going off all the time. I'm afraid for everything. No, 1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:11.720 I don't know. The dog jumped up here on him. 1:20:11.960 --> 1:20:16.320 You know me, you know, here comes EMTs. So I 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:20.000 I've been hesitant to give and I thought about that before. 1:20:20.080 --> 1:20:22.200 Maybe one that hangs around the neck or I don't know. 1:20:22.280 --> 1:20:24.240 Well, I have to sum at some point. 1:20:24.280 --> 1:20:25.720 I don't know if we have enough time for this, 1:20:25.760 --> 1:20:27.720 because it's a long story, probably all air I have 1:20:27.760 --> 1:20:29.960 to tell you. But Moe, who you met this week, 1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:32.880 and my dad he has an Apple watch and he 1:20:33.400 --> 1:20:34.720 struggles to work that thing. 1:20:34.800 --> 1:20:37.160 But one time. He was subbing in a gym class 1:20:37.280 --> 1:20:38.479 and they have. 1:20:38.360 --> 1:20:41.000 A feature on your Apple Watch where if like you 1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:45.120 move really quickly, like it thinks you've fell or like 1:20:45.800 --> 1:20:49.280 something happened right, which is kind of what you're talking about. Uh, 1:20:49.320 --> 1:20:54.439 And yeah, he called an ambulance on accident because he 1:20:54.640 --> 1:20:57.479 was in gym class subbing and like moved quickly, and 1:20:57.520 --> 1:20:58.640 he didn't know what was going on. 1:20:58.680 --> 1:21:00.559 He didn't know why the medics showed up for anything. 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:03.479 See, I'm afraid that's my mom would have empts out there, 1:21:03.520 --> 1:21:06.800 I think every day. By the way, you and Moe 1:21:06.920 --> 1:21:10.320 have father and son mustaches. Yeah, that's pretty cool. 1:21:10.280 --> 1:21:10.479 We do. 1:21:10.720 --> 1:21:11.760 Yeah, I get it from him. 1:21:11.840 --> 1:21:15.680 Yeah, yeah, father and son mustaches. If case you were 1:21:15.680 --> 1:21:18.519 not privety this earlier, I got a chance to meet 1:21:18.560 --> 1:21:22.320 Mo and Betsy for the first time on Saturday before 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:26.000 the JMV takeover. You brought them in studio down Sewage 1:21:26.080 --> 1:21:29.559 Row down there on on number one and I met 1:21:29.560 --> 1:21:32.040 with them before we started the JMV takeoff, and you 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:36.360 sent us to Aias, which was Iris. You did not 1:21:36.479 --> 1:21:39.519 ask for Dom though, correct, because I bet Dom was there. 1:21:39.800 --> 1:21:42.240 Somebody tell me if you still go to Irias and 1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:45.280 I know everybody does. I'm assuming Dom is still there. 1:21:45.320 --> 1:21:48.640 I told you to ask for Don Dommy is a 1:21:48.640 --> 1:21:51.600 tremendous dude, and there are a lot of There are 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:53.680 a lot of great places around. You could not go 1:21:53.760 --> 1:21:57.800 wrong with Iria's Iozo's either, you know, on the south 1:21:57.840 --> 1:21:59.880 side of downtown I'm Meridian, or even down in for 1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:03.720 there's an Iozo's location that is great. But you went 1:22:03.800 --> 1:22:07.280 to Ireas where I told you the great story the 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:11.040 late great Rick Majeris back when I was at the 1:22:11.080 --> 1:22:15.160 other station was my college basketball analyst weekly and this 1:22:15.200 --> 1:22:19.960 goes back to six when Blake was born. Majeris sent 1:22:20.040 --> 1:22:24.040 me just a massive amount of clothes for Blake, just 1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:26.640 like baby clothes for Blake. And then he came to 1:22:26.680 --> 1:22:29.320 Indy and we went to Iria's and I've never seen 1:22:29.680 --> 1:22:33.519 anything like it. My man. We sat in one of 1:22:33.520 --> 1:22:37.320 these lounge chairs and he was just he was going 1:22:37.479 --> 1:22:42.360 at it. But some of the greatest basketball stories I've 1:22:42.360 --> 1:22:47.000 ever heard of my life from rickmcgeris during that time. 1:22:47.040 --> 1:22:49.559 And if anybody knows Rick Majeri's from Ball State or 1:22:50.320 --> 1:22:53.680 you know, Utah or Marquette or whatever. Was just a 1:22:54.320 --> 1:23:02.120 glorious and incredibly missed basketball personality. He was awesome back then. 1:23:03.320 --> 1:23:07.599 But once upon a time, Iria's was a Rick Macgeira spot. 1:23:07.920 --> 1:23:11.519 Iria's the late Robin Miller. That's a Robin Miller spot 1:23:11.520 --> 1:23:15.120 as well. We always went there. But I mentioned you 1:23:15.240 --> 1:23:17.599 go and ask for Dom. I'm assuming on a Saturday 1:23:17.680 --> 1:23:21.479 night that Dom was probably there so and I'm assuming 1:23:21.560 --> 1:23:23.880 if you guys can tell me if if Dom is 1:23:23.920 --> 1:23:26.280 still often there. I used to see Dom when I 1:23:26.320 --> 1:23:29.639 would take the Blake to Ron Colley in the mornings. 1:23:29.640 --> 1:23:33.480 I would see Dom over at the Speedway at Southport 1:23:33.600 --> 1:23:38.040 in Gray every morning getting coffee. But awesome, Irias, did 1:23:38.040 --> 1:23:38.479 you like it? 1:23:38.520 --> 1:23:39.000 I loved it? 1:23:39.040 --> 1:23:39.720 What'd you go with? 1:23:40.000 --> 1:23:42.639 How I went to Chick Alfredo? 1:23:42.840 --> 1:23:48.839 Yeah, I get the j mv Iria's Lasagna is the bomb. 1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:51.800 My mom got that. There you go, Yeah, shout out 1:23:51.800 --> 1:23:54.639 to Dom and Irias. Awesome place over there. Quick break, 1:23:55.280 --> 1:23:58.080 The Colts have a depth chart released. We'll talk to 1:23:58.080 --> 1:24:01.400 Stephen Holder about that and then get the joint workouts 1:24:01.439 --> 1:24:04.160 they're going to have coming up here with New England 1:24:04.280 --> 1:24:06.719 in New England and then the matchup coming up on Thursday. 1:24:06.800 --> 1:24:09.759 Keep in mind four thirty the Colts Pregame Huddle starts 1:24:09.800 --> 1:24:12.880 with me and the band's back together again and we're 1:24:12.920 --> 1:24:16.559 gonna get more. Rick Venturi coming up this year on 1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:20.400 the Colts Pregame Huddle will be all about that four 1:24:20.600 --> 1:24:24.680 thirty until six thirty, That is on Thursday, ahead of 1:24:24.720 --> 1:24:29.080 preseason game number one. And tomorrow the guy that's going 1:24:29.120 --> 1:24:32.480 to be the voice of the pregame pre games themselves, 1:24:32.720 --> 1:24:34.639 Greg Rigshaw, is going to join us and we'll talk 1:24:34.640 --> 1:24:37.040 about that with Greg. I think it's Greg and Rick 1:24:37.280 --> 1:24:42.800 and Alera Olverton doing the pregame TV stuff. Greg joins 1:24:42.880 --> 1:24:44.880 us coming up tomorrow. All right, quick break, we'll come back. 1:24:44.880 --> 1:24:46.599 Stephen hold the top of the hours. Stay right there. 1:24:46.640 --> 1:24:51.280 It's ninety three five one seven five, the fin the 1:24:51.479 --> 1:25:01.639 Ride with JMV Dude three five and one oh seven 1:25:01.800 --> 1:25:05.360 five the fan I should mention too. 1:25:05.400 --> 1:25:09.040 Coming up on Saturday, the free throw shooting competition we're 1:25:09.040 --> 1:25:12.360 having between games out at the Indiana State Fair. You 1:25:12.400 --> 1:25:16.599 can win four packs of tickets to the State Fair. 1:25:19.000 --> 1:25:23.120 That is on Saturday. Now. Coming up tomorrow night at 1:25:23.160 --> 1:25:26.840 the Indiana State Fair on the free stage, it is 1:25:27.080 --> 1:25:33.520 Clayton Anderson, Friend of the show, Clayton Anderson in concert. 1:25:34.960 --> 1:25:37.799 So if you're out there tomorrow night to see Clayton, 1:25:37.800 --> 1:25:41.800 make sure you tell Clayton we said hello. That is 1:25:41.880 --> 1:25:45.760 coming up tomorrow night from Elvis JMV. People that want 1:25:45.760 --> 1:25:47.680 to fire the head coach with a fever seem to 1:25:47.680 --> 1:25:49.880 forget that she got them to an ot game to 1:25:49.880 --> 1:25:52.599 get to the WNBA finals without Clark and a bunch 1:25:52.600 --> 1:25:56.000 of scrubs pulled off the waiver wire. Most people forgot 1:25:56.640 --> 1:26:01.800 because they checked out when Caitlin got hurt. So many 1:26:01.880 --> 1:26:06.519 of their issues on the floor, it's not coaching, it's 1:26:06.600 --> 1:26:11.000 on them now, the off the floor, after the game 1:26:11.320 --> 1:26:18.080 and after the ejection, that's on her. You have to 1:26:18.120 --> 1:26:24.360 go hard and make sure that your players understand that 1:26:24.479 --> 1:26:27.439 you're with them. It didn't act like that. They understood that, 1:26:29.520 --> 1:26:36.960 And that was easy too, because that Carrington foul was reckless. Okay, 1:26:37.280 --> 1:26:39.880 sure she didn't want to knock her, Maybe she didn't 1:26:39.880 --> 1:26:42.880 want to knock her out, but it was reckless. The 1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:50.960 ejection was deserved, and if I'm Stephanie White right now, 1:26:51.280 --> 1:26:57.559 everything is coming at her, everything is blaming her. The 1:26:57.600 --> 1:27:00.200 one thing you have to do is make sure sure 1:27:00.479 --> 1:27:09.360 that your team is wound tight and together. Caitlin Clark 1:27:09.400 --> 1:27:14.840 does a great job of making sure she owns basketball 1:27:14.880 --> 1:27:21.320 situations and she keeps things basketball wise. Stephanie White missed 1:27:21.320 --> 1:27:29.840 the mark on Saturday. At the very least, you got 1:27:29.840 --> 1:27:33.200 to think about who the hell cares about Carrington's feelings 1:27:33.280 --> 1:27:37.559 or the feelings of anybody else, or now everybody's thinking 1:27:37.600 --> 1:27:41.360 that she doesn't like the thoughts and the outspokenness of 1:27:41.479 --> 1:27:44.519 Sophie Cunningham. It doesn't matter. She's in your inner circle 1:27:44.640 --> 1:27:48.080 in the huddle. Back her up completely, Back your team 1:27:48.160 --> 1:27:51.360 up completely, because you're going to catch blame regardless, but 1:27:51.439 --> 1:27:54.400 you want to make sure you keep everybody together that 1:27:54.800 --> 1:28:01.960 just missed the mark on Saturday. It quick break. We'll 1:28:02.000 --> 1:28:03.840 come back Stephen Holder top of the hour, or the 1:28:03.920 --> 1:28:05.680 Colts have a depth chart, we'll go over that. The 1:28:05.720 --> 1:28:08.640 Colts on the road in New England, joint practices and 1:28:08.680 --> 1:28:11.920 then a preseason game coming up on Thursday from ESPN. 1:28:12.000 --> 1:28:13.800 Steven Holder is going to join us. Coming up on 1:28:13.840 --> 1:28:15.400 the other side. It's ninety three to five and one 1:28:15.400 --> 1:28:16.559 oh seven the Fan. 1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:21.720 The ride with JMV. 1:28:22.040 --> 1:28:25.599 It's at Drugs Danny every game, so it's problem. 1:28:25.640 --> 1:28:28.719 I don't know. Ninety three five and one oh seven five, 1:28:29.040 --> 1:28:36.000 the fan busy rest of the week. Hurst and LaMonte 1:28:36.120 --> 1:28:38.519 is with me. Coming up on Friday at Pivot Downtown. 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:46.479 You know, we love the Pivot Balcony bar inside Hiatt 1:28:46.560 --> 1:28:50.200 Place Downtown. Coming up on Friday, that's before. 1:28:50.120 --> 1:28:55.320 The Fever game and is always a fantastic time. They 1:28:55.360 --> 1:28:58.240 played Dallas on Friday night. We shall be down there, 1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:01.719 I believe. Did we not talk to Debbie and then. 1:29:04.000 --> 1:29:04.200 John? 1:29:04.320 --> 1:29:06.679 I'm sure they're gonna love the dialogue I have right now. 1:29:06.760 --> 1:29:09.840 If we do that on Friday, hopefully that changes. Yeah, 1:29:10.160 --> 1:29:12.519 they may go I don't know. I don't know all 1:29:12.520 --> 1:29:19.520 about that. It's it's really simple, though. That was egregious 1:29:19.760 --> 1:29:24.439 enough to be incredibly outspoken in the backing of your 1:29:24.479 --> 1:29:28.080 team and player. That's easy. You don't go into that 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:30.160 and go, well, yeah, I don't know they meant to do. 1:29:30.280 --> 1:29:34.720 And I mean it was around the neck and reckless 1:29:36.160 --> 1:29:43.120 regardless of what anybody else thinks. And listen, you're gonna 1:29:43.160 --> 1:29:47.760 have everybody coming at you regardless. You don't want that 1:29:47.800 --> 1:29:55.200 with your team, you know, want any misguided feelings regarding 1:29:55.280 --> 1:30:03.320 those in your huddle. Simple to me. Fever and New 1:30:03.400 --> 1:30:08.240 York coming up tomorrow, night, so the technical was rescinded. 1:30:09.040 --> 1:30:16.000 Caitlin Clark sits on seven Right now now Bill Simmons 1:30:16.080 --> 1:30:20.400 talking about the leadership or lack thereof the WNBA and 1:30:20.479 --> 1:30:23.360 there has to be something new is absolutely right now. 1:30:23.360 --> 1:30:25.800 I've been talking about that and the TV you know, 1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:31.479 this being all over the map. It's not great. More 1:30:31.479 --> 1:30:34.320 on that coming up meantime on the Andy Moro Automotive 1:30:34.320 --> 1:30:36.800 Group podline, getting said, I'm assuming to head out to 1:30:36.840 --> 1:30:39.400 New England for a couple of joint practices and then 1:30:39.439 --> 1:30:42.440 a gathering for a preseason game number one on Thursday. 1:30:43.160 --> 1:30:48.120 Stephen Holder joins us. Anything that you gather from the 1:30:48.160 --> 1:30:51.880 release of the official depth charts earlier today with the 1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:53.320 Cults of Mind Steven. 1:30:56.840 --> 1:31:00.400 Not particularly. I think there are a well, I guess 1:31:00.400 --> 1:31:05.160 it was an admission that this is, you know, a 1:31:05.520 --> 1:31:09.160 backup quarterback battle. That was an acknowledgment of that, so 1:31:09.720 --> 1:31:12.320 they stayed out of the weeds on that one. There 1:31:12.360 --> 1:31:17.040 are a few veterans who are I think listed above 1:31:17.160 --> 1:31:20.760 some younger players where they're just kind of doing them 1:31:20.840 --> 1:31:24.680 a solid on that. I feel like out of respect 1:31:25.000 --> 1:31:28.000 that the younger player and a lot of those instances 1:31:28.560 --> 1:31:32.280 is actually ahead you know, and so I think one 1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:36.200 example would be better at linebacker, for example, I think 1:31:36.200 --> 1:31:40.280 he's in their top three linebackers right now. It did 1:31:40.280 --> 1:31:42.439 not reflect that if you look at the depth chart 1:31:42.479 --> 1:31:46.200 that they put out today. But that's not that unusual. 1:31:46.520 --> 1:31:50.840 I'm looking forward here as we're talking. Yeah, that's not 1:31:51.240 --> 1:31:54.559 totally unusual. But for the first depth chart, you know, 1:31:56.600 --> 1:31:58.559 but I think there are some things there that we 1:31:58.640 --> 1:32:00.760 know are not going to remain that way, if that 1:32:00.800 --> 1:32:02.479 makes sense, And that's an example of it. 1:32:02.640 --> 1:32:05.360 Do you know where do you point the finger the 1:32:05.400 --> 1:32:08.080 first bought the first position, where you go, all right, 1:32:08.960 --> 1:32:11.320 this doesn't look ground obviously with me, we talked about 1:32:11.360 --> 1:32:14.880 this before. It's wide receiver. But what do you look 1:32:14.920 --> 1:32:18.160 at first and say, yet, hopefully either this is a 1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:21.599 lot better than what we gather right now or there 1:32:21.680 --> 1:32:23.639 is some marked improvement at some point. 1:32:25.760 --> 1:32:29.040 I think I think linebacker, I'll stick with that position. 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:32.200 I think they got they're they're a little they're definitely 1:32:32.240 --> 1:32:35.040 thin there. It's kind of interesting. I asked lou An Arumo, 1:32:35.320 --> 1:32:39.519 defensive coordinator on Saturday, about that position. His answer was 1:32:39.560 --> 1:32:44.519 actually kind of honest, for refreshingly honest, and he admitted 1:32:44.560 --> 1:32:46.800 that like, you know what, we don't really have a 1:32:46.800 --> 1:32:49.559 whole lot of guys locked in there yet, and because 1:32:49.600 --> 1:32:52.679 they keep rotating guys in with the first team, which 1:32:52.760 --> 1:32:54.639 tells me they don't know who their starters are, right, 1:32:55.040 --> 1:32:57.040 And so I asked him about that, and he said, well, 1:32:57.080 --> 1:32:59.200 you know, I think we're going to end up playing 1:32:59.240 --> 1:33:02.200 a lot of guys there. And he said, you know, 1:33:02.240 --> 1:33:04.160 we may just have guys kind of do what they're 1:33:04.200 --> 1:33:06.360 best at. So I asked him, does that mean you're 1:33:06.360 --> 1:33:10.559 going to have guys sort of specialize in certain roles, 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:15.519 you know, not you know, not jack of all trades. 1:33:15.680 --> 1:33:18.760 What's the opposite of that, right, Just guys who are 1:33:18.800 --> 1:33:21.800 just really good at certain things and rotating in and out. 1:33:22.439 --> 1:33:25.040 And so he suggested that that's what it's going to 1:33:25.120 --> 1:33:28.400 look like. And he said the way his justification was 1:33:28.680 --> 1:33:33.200 for it was, Look, we don't want to overwhelm young guys, 1:33:33.560 --> 1:33:36.000 so if you can kind of give them a specific role, 1:33:36.400 --> 1:33:38.840 they maybe can lean into that and do well at that. 1:33:39.040 --> 1:33:42.479 So that doesn't make sense, but I think we all 1:33:42.520 --> 1:33:46.439 know that. I think in the best case scenario, you'd 1:33:46.479 --> 1:33:50.000 like to have your two or three guys and those 1:33:50.040 --> 1:33:51.880 are your guys and you know they're going to play 1:33:51.880 --> 1:33:55.600 all the reps. That is not that's the way you 1:33:55.600 --> 1:33:57.920 structure it. The way he's talking about it is not 1:33:58.040 --> 1:34:00.479 the way you draw it up. So that would be 1:34:00.520 --> 1:34:04.280 out of necessity rather than something that they just prefer. 1:34:05.000 --> 1:34:07.479 So we heard the news we're getting Cam Taylor Britt 1:34:07.479 --> 1:34:10.839 going back to Friday, And you know, obviously this stems 1:34:10.840 --> 1:34:13.800 from a situation going back at the beginning of the 1:34:13.880 --> 1:34:17.040 year before he was signed here. How had he been 1:34:17.240 --> 1:34:21.280 performing up until that point and in this case missing 1:34:21.600 --> 1:34:23.519 the first game of the season, being able to do 1:34:23.560 --> 1:34:26.560 all the preseason stuff, but missing that first game obviously 1:34:26.760 --> 1:34:27.679 against the Ravens. 1:34:28.680 --> 1:34:32.240 Yeah, I think that he has actually been pretty solid. 1:34:32.680 --> 1:34:35.720 They like him right now. I would say if the 1:34:35.720 --> 1:34:39.479 season started today, Oh well, if the season started today, 1:34:39.479 --> 1:34:41.760 he couldn't play. But just throw that out for a minute, right, 1:34:41.800 --> 1:34:45.800 if the season started today, I think Kim Taylor Britt 1:34:46.160 --> 1:34:50.000 is their number three outside corner. So if something happens 1:34:50.040 --> 1:34:54.479 to Sauce Gardner Mooney Ward, I think he'd beat the 1:34:54.520 --> 1:34:56.760 first guy off the bench. That's how I envisioned that 1:34:56.840 --> 1:35:01.080 right now. The other corner being Justin Wally in the slot. 1:35:01.600 --> 1:35:03.719 So that's the way I see it at the moment, 1:35:03.920 --> 1:35:07.320 and they feel good about that because I think they've 1:35:07.760 --> 1:35:10.320 they've had a lack of depth at corner for a 1:35:10.360 --> 1:35:13.439 couple of years now, right, And you saw it last 1:35:13.479 --> 1:35:16.160 year just because the number of injuries they had, the 1:35:16.240 --> 1:35:18.280 death really got tested. I mean they pulled a couple 1:35:18.320 --> 1:35:21.320 guys off the couch last year. They made that trade 1:35:21.320 --> 1:35:26.160 for Makai Blackman, for example. He played a lot of snaps, 1:35:26.200 --> 1:35:28.880 probably more than way more than he should have, right, 1:35:29.200 --> 1:35:32.479 And so they have this year you get Wally back 1:35:32.520 --> 1:35:34.320 in the fold coming back from his injury. I know 1:35:34.360 --> 1:35:37.679 he's in the slot, but just generally speaking, that's another body. 1:35:38.240 --> 1:35:43.000 You get Cam Taylor Britt as a great example of 1:35:43.160 --> 1:35:45.880 the kind of signing where it gives you quality depth. 1:35:46.479 --> 1:35:49.040 They did not have quality depths last year, you know, 1:35:49.200 --> 1:35:51.920 And so I think this is definitely a step in 1:35:51.960 --> 1:35:54.040 the right direction. And then you have some younger guys 1:35:54.320 --> 1:35:57.439 who are fighting it out and some of them will 1:35:57.479 --> 1:36:01.080 earn some playing time or earned rosters, and then others 1:36:01.120 --> 1:36:03.640 may have to catch on elsewhere. But there's good competition 1:36:03.760 --> 1:36:06.280 back there. But Camp Taylor Britt is the guy I 1:36:06.280 --> 1:36:08.719 think behind those two big. 1:36:08.560 --> 1:36:11.880 Name veterans, Stephen Holder of ESPN on ESPN dot coms, 1:36:11.880 --> 1:36:13.960 and the Andy Moro Auto Motive Group potline. We're not 1:36:14.000 --> 1:36:18.280 talking about super notable names, certainly in free agency, but 1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:21.120 you know some of those defensive guys from Key to 1:36:21.280 --> 1:36:27.440 Clemens to Tillery, guys like that. How are the veterans 1:36:27.479 --> 1:36:30.280 at those defensive positions? Anybody else you want to add 1:36:30.280 --> 1:36:33.920 in performing so far in camp From your estimation. 1:36:34.560 --> 1:36:37.680 So Ardine Key is actually kind of interesting. I had 1:36:38.200 --> 1:36:42.880 sort of meager expectations for him. Look what we see 1:36:42.920 --> 1:36:45.240 out there, even when they have pads on, it's not 1:36:45.680 --> 1:36:49.120 necessarily the real thing. But I would say he has 1:36:49.200 --> 1:36:52.519 had a presence. I would say he've noticed him. And 1:36:52.600 --> 1:36:56.559 I do think that's promising. I think he is the 1:36:56.600 --> 1:37:00.240 guy who's probably been outside of lat too. I would 1:37:00.240 --> 1:37:02.519 be the guy who's been the most consistent a lot too. 1:37:02.560 --> 1:37:05.519 Starting to come on and we're starting to see him flash. 1:37:05.840 --> 1:37:10.120 He's really creating consistent pressure. I like his chances to 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:13.559 take a step this year. I think how big of 1:37:13.600 --> 1:37:17.479 a step he can take does? I think depend on 1:37:17.520 --> 1:37:19.800 the guys around him to a degree, right, And so 1:37:20.280 --> 1:37:23.519 that's going to depend on the Forrest Buckner becoming the 1:37:23.520 --> 1:37:27.080 Forest Buckner again. Right, Yesterday was a day where I 1:37:27.120 --> 1:37:29.519 started to see him flash, and that has been a 1:37:29.560 --> 1:37:31.920 long time coming. I hadn't really seen a lot of that, 1:37:31.960 --> 1:37:36.320 and he's been limited. But anyway, back to those other 1:37:36.360 --> 1:37:40.000 guys that free agent group you talked about, Clemons, I mean, 1:37:40.000 --> 1:37:42.160 Clemens has been out there with some of the first 1:37:42.160 --> 1:37:45.200 team reps. I think he's I think he's going to 1:37:45.320 --> 1:37:47.599 end up being a little bit of a of an 1:37:47.680 --> 1:37:51.439 edge setter. Not sexy and not a position where you're 1:37:51.439 --> 1:37:52.920 going to get a lot of numbers, but he's never 1:37:52.960 --> 1:37:55.120 had numbers in his career. I think that's kind of 1:37:55.120 --> 1:37:58.120 been his role. A guy who you know, set that 1:37:58.240 --> 1:38:01.439 edge against the run and and you know, create create 1:38:01.520 --> 1:38:04.880 some pass rush when asked. I think that's probably going 1:38:04.920 --> 1:38:07.440 to be his role. Like we just talked about with linebackers, 1:38:07.439 --> 1:38:11.280 this could be a situational position. The guy this is 1:38:11.320 --> 1:38:14.160 not a free agent, but the guy I kind of 1:38:14.280 --> 1:38:16.799 like and I want to see more of, is George Gumms, 1:38:17.840 --> 1:38:22.280 the rookie defensive end from Florida. He actually has I 1:38:22.320 --> 1:38:27.080 think flashed pretty consistently, and I am very very intrigued. 1:38:27.360 --> 1:38:30.240 I think in the preseason that's a guy you better 1:38:30.280 --> 1:38:33.960 circle circle his name and look for him on Thursday night. 1:38:34.000 --> 1:38:36.960 He's gonna play a lot and we're gonna find out 1:38:37.000 --> 1:38:38.439 if he can do it under the lights. I mean, 1:38:38.439 --> 1:38:41.600 he's been doing it against the backups, and when they 1:38:41.640 --> 1:38:43.640 put him out there with the third team, he just 1:38:43.760 --> 1:38:46.760 wrecks the whole thing. So the second team is a 1:38:46.840 --> 1:38:50.760 much better measurement for him, and he's flashed there too. 1:38:51.120 --> 1:38:53.960 So will he get some first team reps? I don't 1:38:53.960 --> 1:38:58.760 know about that, but I think he's fighting to show 1:38:58.800 --> 1:39:00.880 that he deserves from playing and he's going to have 1:39:00.920 --> 1:39:02.080 opportunities to prove that. 1:39:02.320 --> 1:39:06.479 Steven the offensive line, certainly, the starters we note and 1:39:06.600 --> 1:39:10.599 we know, but what about what is always necessary really 1:39:10.640 --> 1:39:13.880 with any team, but certainly magnified with his team. What 1:39:13.960 --> 1:39:16.160 about the depth of the offensive line? 1:39:17.439 --> 1:39:20.759 Yeah, it always gets tested, right, I mean I remember 1:39:20.760 --> 1:39:23.360 that year, what was it like, four or five years 1:39:23.400 --> 1:39:27.559 ago where all five guys played all seventeen games. I mean, 1:39:28.120 --> 1:39:31.840 that's that's a one in a million, right, that just 1:39:31.880 --> 1:39:36.360 doesn't happen. So I think the question is, so they 1:39:36.439 --> 1:39:38.600 have they have some decent depth. I mean they have 1:39:38.680 --> 1:39:42.240 the rookie Jalen Farmer is going to you know, gonna 1:39:42.240 --> 1:39:44.920 be a guy who can rotate a guard. Dalton Tucker 1:39:45.280 --> 1:39:49.760 can certainly give him a hand there tackle, and I'm 1:39:49.760 --> 1:39:51.360 looking at it here just to make sure I'm not 1:39:51.360 --> 1:39:57.360 forgetting anybody tackle I feel less secure about. I guess 1:39:57.400 --> 1:40:00.640 it's Blake Freeland out in the set city because they 1:40:00.640 --> 1:40:04.599 don't really have an obvious answer for that swing tackle. 1:40:04.680 --> 1:40:08.040 Luke Tanuda is another guy who has played for them, 1:40:08.360 --> 1:40:11.599 and I would say that wasn't terrible. So I think 1:40:11.720 --> 1:40:16.920 tackle if they have an injury there a little more nervous, 1:40:16.960 --> 1:40:21.280 I would say than in the interior. Center. A few 1:40:21.360 --> 1:40:24.519 questions at center, and Dalton Tucker has been the backup 1:40:24.600 --> 1:40:27.840 center and snapping there, but there have been some mishaps 1:40:27.880 --> 1:40:30.240 in practice, and not all of that has been Anthony 1:40:30.320 --> 1:40:33.080 Richardson's fault. I mean some of that is on Tucker too, 1:40:33.640 --> 1:40:37.920 So I think they don't really have a dedicated backup center. 1:40:38.160 --> 1:40:40.280 You know, for a long time, Danny Pincher was kind 1:40:40.280 --> 1:40:43.280 of that guy who you knew like center was his 1:40:43.320 --> 1:40:46.160 strength and he basically was a backup center. But he 1:40:46.200 --> 1:40:49.360 has moved on and so they're trying to piece that 1:40:49.400 --> 1:40:52.479 one together. So they kind of got their fingers crossed. 1:40:52.520 --> 1:40:54.280 I think at center, to be completely honest with. 1:40:54.240 --> 1:40:58.560 You, Stephen Holder of ESPN on ESPN dot com, joint gatherings, 1:40:58.640 --> 1:41:01.760 and then obviously the season game number one coming up 1:41:01.760 --> 1:41:04.320 on Thursday four to thirty is when we get started 1:41:04.360 --> 1:41:07.040 with the Colt pregame huddle coming up on Thursday right 1:41:07.080 --> 1:41:08.720 here in studio in ninety three to five and one 1:41:08.800 --> 1:41:11.600 oh seven five the fans. So I didn't go to 1:41:11.720 --> 1:41:14.640 in depth of this because we basically know what we 1:41:14.760 --> 1:41:20.000 know regarding Anthony Richardson. But has has this been a 1:41:20.080 --> 1:41:24.559 really bad start to training camp for him? Just in 1:41:24.600 --> 1:41:27.280 general terms of how he is playing and not even 1:41:27.840 --> 1:41:32.439 expectations or any of that, but just in general watching him, 1:41:32.960 --> 1:41:33.920 has it gotten worse? 1:41:35.920 --> 1:41:39.120 I think my biggest issue has been just the inconsistency. 1:41:39.520 --> 1:41:43.240 You still see the big throw once in a while, 1:41:43.320 --> 1:41:46.559 right the flash. He's always had that and he's always 1:41:46.600 --> 1:41:50.759 going to be capable of that. But on a play 1:41:51.320 --> 1:41:54.679 to play basis, which is what you need from your backup, 1:41:54.720 --> 1:41:57.400 you don't need flash as much as you just need 1:41:57.640 --> 1:42:01.479 you just need completions, I think with backup quarterback, and 1:42:01.640 --> 1:42:04.479 he's got to I talked to somebody today and the 1:42:05.000 --> 1:42:09.160 feedback was just this, like just get completions and stop, 1:42:09.560 --> 1:42:12.080 you know, don't play hero ball, right he I think 1:42:12.240 --> 1:42:15.200 last year he's trying to win the starting job, and 1:42:15.240 --> 1:42:17.080 so you're out there, you're trying to make plays. You're 1:42:17.120 --> 1:42:20.080 trying to, you know, go give Alec Pears an opportunity 1:42:20.120 --> 1:42:21.800 to make a big play. Well, you're not going to 1:42:21.840 --> 1:42:24.439 be able to do that. Frankly, with the guys he's 1:42:24.479 --> 1:42:27.639 playing with on that second and third team. I mean, 1:42:28.080 --> 1:42:30.200 they're not going to go make, you know, a Randy 1:42:30.240 --> 1:42:32.920 Moss play for you. Those guys just that's not who 1:42:32.920 --> 1:42:36.760 he's playing with, especially with the receiver depth that they 1:42:36.800 --> 1:42:39.639 have right now. So he's just got to not force 1:42:39.680 --> 1:42:42.920 stuff and just take the check down, you know, make 1:42:42.960 --> 1:42:45.720 the easy throw, go to that first read. I mean, 1:42:46.600 --> 1:42:48.640 you know there are times when he's still holding the 1:42:48.680 --> 1:42:50.920 ball trying to go for the big play, and I 1:42:50.960 --> 1:42:53.439 don't think that's what's going to get him this job. 1:42:53.560 --> 1:42:56.000 I think if he wants to have that number two, 1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:58.040 he's just got to throw it to the guy who's 1:42:58.040 --> 1:42:59.840 opening and it's the first read. Throw it to that guy. 1:43:00.360 --> 1:43:02.280 Making the big play is not what they're looking for. 1:43:02.400 --> 1:43:07.040 So I do think that we saw him start to 1:43:07.080 --> 1:43:11.040 settle in on Sunday, and I liked what he did 1:43:11.200 --> 1:43:14.280 in the two minute drive. The two minute drill really 1:43:14.360 --> 1:43:17.559 drove the ball down and had a big completion position 1:43:17.720 --> 1:43:20.320 for a touchdown. That's what you want to see, and 1:43:20.720 --> 1:43:22.880 he has been clutching those situations in the past. But 1:43:22.920 --> 1:43:25.640 he's just got to be more consistent. Is not to 1:43:25.640 --> 1:43:28.719 say Riley Leonard has been great, but on a play 1:43:28.720 --> 1:43:31.559 to blate play to play basis a little more consistent 1:43:31.560 --> 1:43:32.439 than Anthony for sure. 1:43:32.880 --> 1:43:35.439 Stephen Holder of ESPN on ESPN dot com, he is 1:43:35.479 --> 1:43:38.600 on the Andy More Automotive group hootline. The first official 1:43:38.720 --> 1:43:43.040 for training camp depth chart has been released, and Jonathan 1:43:43.080 --> 1:43:46.799 Taylor got the extension, which I think we were relatively 1:43:46.840 --> 1:43:50.080 sure was going to happen considering his attitude and personality 1:43:50.160 --> 1:43:54.080 during this camp prior to that deal. We know about 1:43:54.120 --> 1:43:56.560 him and he's going to have to shoulder some significant 1:43:56.560 --> 1:44:01.760 load once again, which we understand. But what about after him? 1:44:02.080 --> 1:44:06.960 Your thoughts on the backup plan and anything of significance 1:44:07.000 --> 1:44:09.679 you gather from the first start of camp. 1:44:09.479 --> 1:44:13.840 Here, the guy that I most want to see in 1:44:13.880 --> 1:44:18.080 preseason is Seth McGowan, the rookie out of Kentucky. This 1:44:18.240 --> 1:44:21.960 kid is very interesting. He is off to a fantastic 1:44:22.000 --> 1:44:26.439 start and the coaches, they, I think are starting to 1:44:26.439 --> 1:44:29.960 buy in on this. You know, DJ Giddens, I never 1:44:30.000 --> 1:44:33.800 saw it last year. He just never really got any momentum, 1:44:34.240 --> 1:44:38.040 No consistent playing time. Obviously, no one gets consistent playing 1:44:38.040 --> 1:44:40.639 time behind Jonathan Taylor, right, So I'm not breaking any 1:44:40.680 --> 1:44:44.640 news there, but I thought there were moments where they 1:44:44.680 --> 1:44:47.559 could have given him Giddings, They could have given him 1:44:47.560 --> 1:44:50.880 a series here, series there, or maybe let him finish 1:44:50.920 --> 1:44:54.439 off a game, and they very rarely did do that. 1:44:54.680 --> 1:44:58.000 So I think that said something about how they feel 1:44:58.000 --> 1:45:00.400 about him or in terms of their level of trust 1:45:00.479 --> 1:45:04.120 with him, whatever it might be. And McGowan, what I 1:45:04.160 --> 1:45:06.360 love is just he is a north to south runner. 1:45:06.840 --> 1:45:11.320 North and south. Okay, one cut and he's gone. You know, 1:45:11.360 --> 1:45:14.280 I don't know that he's the fastest guy, but that's 1:45:14.360 --> 1:45:16.080 not what he brings to the table. He is a 1:45:16.120 --> 1:45:19.719 determined runner. And the Patriots they're gonna have to tackle 1:45:19.760 --> 1:45:21.840 this kid in this preseason game because he is a 1:45:21.880 --> 1:45:25.760 powerful runner. And the other thing that he does is 1:45:25.800 --> 1:45:27.840 he contributes in the passing game. He's been a really 1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:31.760 shorthanded receiver when they've checked it down to him or 1:45:31.840 --> 1:45:35.600 thrown the screens, which they've done. So I think that 1:45:36.160 --> 1:45:38.880 he's done everything you could have expected, I would say, 1:45:38.880 --> 1:45:42.280 from a backup running back and has earned so far. 1:45:42.640 --> 1:45:45.360 At least, I think he's earned the playing time if 1:45:45.360 --> 1:45:47.679 they're miss snaps to have or to be had behind 1:45:47.760 --> 1:45:48.360 Jonathan Taylor. 1:45:48.360 --> 1:45:50.519 All right, go help the fans out there kind of 1:45:50.560 --> 1:45:54.400 eyeball on Thursday for the first time, what you have 1:45:54.560 --> 1:45:57.120 witnessed in Westfield so far, some of the things we 1:45:57.160 --> 1:45:59.880 haven't discussed that you're looking forward to on Thursday for 1:46:00.000 --> 1:46:03.840 preseason game one without the fact that it's going to 1:46:03.880 --> 1:46:05.559 be over and then you're going to be off the 1:46:05.600 --> 1:46:08.639 preseason game number two. What about preseason game one? 1:46:10.160 --> 1:46:13.439 Yeah, I think you're just looking for You're just looking 1:46:13.439 --> 1:46:15.960 for some of those young guys to pop a little bit. 1:46:16.000 --> 1:46:20.960 You know, there's there's opportunity at wide receiver. You know, 1:46:21.280 --> 1:46:24.320 do those guys which of those guys actually play in 1:46:24.320 --> 1:46:27.760 this game? You know, I imagine we'll see you know, the 1:46:27.880 --> 1:46:32.120 likes of Westbrookakine la Quantred Wills hurt. Right now, I 1:46:32.240 --> 1:46:35.040 don't know that he will be back. You won't see 1:46:35.080 --> 1:46:37.960 Josh downs even if he does practice tomorrow, Like, give 1:46:38.000 --> 1:46:38.599 me a break. 1:46:39.320 --> 1:46:39.720 Right, So. 1:46:41.840 --> 1:46:44.040 So anyway, my point is there's just a lot of 1:46:44.320 --> 1:46:48.920 receivers that flash here. I'll play here or play there. 1:46:49.280 --> 1:46:52.560 What I am not seeing is consistency. Westbrook Kine I 1:46:52.680 --> 1:46:55.439 think has come on and I'm starting to see him 1:46:56.000 --> 1:46:59.000 make some plays on a more consistent basis. And I think, 1:46:59.040 --> 1:47:01.000 you know, he's a veteran player, so I'm not surprised 1:47:01.040 --> 1:47:06.240 by that. Ashton Doolin always makes place. Can he do 1:47:06.360 --> 1:47:10.680 it consistently? We'll see. So I think receiver is a 1:47:10.680 --> 1:47:13.479 position to watch. I mentioned McGowan. I really think you're 1:47:13.479 --> 1:47:17.200 gonna love watching McGowan. I really believe that. And then 1:47:17.360 --> 1:47:19.840 you already mentioned this, but that backup offensive line like 1:47:20.320 --> 1:47:24.360 who settles in there and who who really starts to 1:47:24.880 --> 1:47:27.680 show that they are going to take ownership of those 1:47:27.720 --> 1:47:30.400 spots and and be out in front, you know, be 1:47:30.439 --> 1:47:32.759 a front runner for that those roster spots. 1:47:33.080 --> 1:47:35.280 Is there going to be an addition wide receiver wise? 1:47:35.439 --> 1:47:38.680 At some point We've often talked about Keenan Allen, but 1:47:39.040 --> 1:47:42.080 it does seem like that the position is outside of 1:47:42.160 --> 1:47:45.120 his name dwindling, And the reason why we don't come 1:47:45.200 --> 1:47:47.479 up with any other names is because it doesn't seem 1:47:47.600 --> 1:47:49.839 like that there are any other names that are useful 1:47:50.360 --> 1:47:54.120 on that particular list. So, I mean, would you think 1:47:54.240 --> 1:47:56.880 that there they plan on going with what they have? 1:47:57.160 --> 1:47:58.479 Could we all be wrong about this? 1:48:00.000 --> 1:48:02.720 Well, I'm starting to think we are. I will tell 1:48:02.720 --> 1:48:06.280 you the God's honest truth because it doesn't matter now. 1:48:07.120 --> 1:48:13.160 I fully expected that Keenan Allen would have been here. Yeah, 1:48:13.400 --> 1:48:16.000 I don't know, maybe a week ago. Certainly by now, 1:48:16.720 --> 1:48:19.040 I fully expected him to be signed by the Colts. 1:48:20.040 --> 1:48:23.040 It's too obvious, right, they were talking him and saying 1:48:23.080 --> 1:48:25.400 Stycking are close. He knows the offense. So if you 1:48:25.439 --> 1:48:27.560 bring a guy in late, you when you want the 1:48:27.600 --> 1:48:31.479 guy who knows the offense. Right, They did not get 1:48:31.560 --> 1:48:34.439 off to a great start at wide receiver in camp, 1:48:34.800 --> 1:48:38.360 so I mean, what more evidence do you need? Right, 1:48:38.560 --> 1:48:40.800 this is going to happen. I fully expected it was 1:48:40.880 --> 1:48:43.280 going to happen. The fact that it has not happened 1:48:43.320 --> 1:48:48.400 already has me really wondering if maybe they're not going 1:48:48.520 --> 1:48:53.439 to do it, and I trace that I don't. This 1:48:53.600 --> 1:48:56.240 is me talking, Okay, not a source, but I trace 1:48:56.320 --> 1:49:00.559 that back to Chris Pout. I think when we talked 1:49:00.560 --> 1:49:04.080 to him to start training camp, you heard he said 1:49:04.120 --> 1:49:05.720 that he wanted to kind of take a look at 1:49:05.760 --> 1:49:09.280 these guys and see what they had at that position, 1:49:09.600 --> 1:49:12.280 and that is the position he always takes when he 1:49:12.479 --> 1:49:15.920 is reluctant to make a roster move, right, whether it's 1:49:16.400 --> 1:49:18.400 the offensive line a few years ago when we were 1:49:18.560 --> 1:49:21.680 clamoring for them to make a move there, the secondary, 1:49:21.880 --> 1:49:24.040 I think the last couple of years when they entered 1:49:24.080 --> 1:49:26.679 the season and we said, you know, your little Finn, 1:49:27.040 --> 1:49:30.840 it's gonna be a problem, and behold, we were psychic, right, 1:49:31.000 --> 1:49:35.880 so very very reminiscent of situations that we've had in 1:49:35.960 --> 1:49:38.800 recent years. I'm very surprised we're still here. 1:49:39.200 --> 1:49:45.280 I am. It's amazing how often we and the fans 1:49:45.560 --> 1:49:48.400 have been accurate about things that the general manager has 1:49:48.479 --> 1:49:49.599 been inaccurate about. 1:49:49.640 --> 1:49:53.519 Steven Well, I have another thought about it. I'll take 1:49:53.560 --> 1:49:56.799 that a step further. I would go back to the draft. 1:49:57.439 --> 1:50:02.479 So I thought they had a nice draft, but free 1:50:02.520 --> 1:50:07.800 agency decisions affect directly affect your draft, right. What did 1:50:07.840 --> 1:50:10.040 they do in free agency? They locked up their own 1:50:10.600 --> 1:50:14.920 largely Alec Peis and Daniel Jones. They did have some 1:50:15.080 --> 1:50:19.160 defensive signings Cam Tayler Brett you mentioned him too, defensive 1:50:19.200 --> 1:50:22.160 ans Ard and Key Michael Clements, etc. So they did 1:50:22.240 --> 1:50:25.160 some work there, no question. But I think the thing 1:50:25.640 --> 1:50:29.120 we thought they might opt for in free agency and 1:50:29.240 --> 1:50:33.479 did not was a wide receiver, and not doing that, 1:50:34.040 --> 1:50:36.920 I think put them in a spot where, Okay, they 1:50:36.960 --> 1:50:38.840 had to make a choice in the draft, do we 1:50:39.000 --> 1:50:42.080 finish off this defense and get the rest of what 1:50:42.200 --> 1:50:45.799 we need because you needed a starting linebacker, you needed 1:50:46.680 --> 1:50:49.960 a safety, you needed linebackers and all that, right, So 1:50:51.560 --> 1:50:54.559 they had some tough calls to make because they had 1:50:54.680 --> 1:50:57.800 left a lot on their plate for the draft, and 1:50:58.640 --> 1:51:02.360 the receiver got overlooked. Not like they forgot about it, 1:51:02.400 --> 1:51:05.120 but I mean they made a conscious decision not to 1:51:05.240 --> 1:51:09.479 do it because they had other priorities. And that leads 1:51:09.560 --> 1:51:11.639 us to where we are right now. I'm not saying 1:51:11.640 --> 1:51:13.919 it was right or wrong, but I'm just saying choices 1:51:14.080 --> 1:51:19.240 have consequences, right, and so those decisions in previous months 1:51:20.000 --> 1:51:21.640 that is what has led us to where we are 1:51:21.760 --> 1:51:25.400 right now. This didn't just happen overnight. This has been 1:51:25.439 --> 1:51:26.200 months in the making. 1:51:27.040 --> 1:51:29.320 We are on the way for a week number one 1:51:29.400 --> 1:51:32.160 to see a heavy dose, are we not in this 1:51:32.360 --> 1:51:38.040 case of Lakwan Treadwell and of Westbrook A. Kine? 1:51:38.600 --> 1:51:41.960 Right, I guess, I guess. Look, I mean, look Alec Pierce. 1:51:42.240 --> 1:51:44.800 If Alec he's not coming back this week for all 1:51:44.840 --> 1:51:47.280 intents and purposes, right, I mean they got one practice 1:51:47.760 --> 1:51:51.040 and then they got the preseason game. So you're talking 1:51:51.120 --> 1:51:55.080 about they're back on the practice field Saturday. That is 1:51:55.240 --> 1:51:59.240 the earliest unless I'm missing something, that would be the 1:51:59.439 --> 1:52:02.040 earliest you can see Alec Pearce. And I'm not even 1:52:02.680 --> 1:52:05.400 here to suggest that's going to happen, But let's say 1:52:05.840 --> 1:52:08.200 absolute best case scenario, he gets back out there when 1:52:08.200 --> 1:52:12.479 they get back to Indianapolis on Saturday, and he's out there. 1:52:12.920 --> 1:52:13.800 Now, what is that? 1:52:14.000 --> 1:52:18.639 I mean you're talking about You're less than a month out. 1:52:18.840 --> 1:52:22.679 He's not in shape, not in football shape. But it's 1:52:22.760 --> 1:52:24.880 no like knock on him. But he has a lower 1:52:24.960 --> 1:52:29.439 body injury. Right, he's been hurt for like four months. Okay, 1:52:29.560 --> 1:52:31.680 the guy's not going to roll out of bed and 1:52:31.880 --> 1:52:36.360 go run past Sauce Gardner on the first day of practice, right, 1:52:37.080 --> 1:52:38.920 So he has a lot of work to do when 1:52:38.920 --> 1:52:41.760 he gets back. So what version of Alex Pierce? Are 1:52:41.800 --> 1:52:44.080 we getting is my cushion? Is my point? 1:52:44.360 --> 1:52:44.519 Right? 1:52:45.520 --> 1:52:49.719 So you couple that with what is remaining of that unit? 1:52:50.320 --> 1:52:53.400 And no, I don't think this is a good recipe 1:52:53.560 --> 1:52:56.800 with a quarterback who is out here trying to prove 1:52:56.960 --> 1:52:59.000 that last year wasn't a flash in the pan, is 1:52:59.080 --> 1:53:02.240 coming off an achille injury, right, shouldn't you position him 1:53:02.280 --> 1:53:05.479 to do the very best he can do? I don't 1:53:05.479 --> 1:53:07.519 think they've done that. So maybe they will prove me 1:53:07.600 --> 1:53:09.080 wrong and we will see. 1:53:09.280 --> 1:53:14.760 So are they approaching this cautiously when he's much more 1:53:14.840 --> 1:53:17.559 on schedule than a lot of us believe because we're 1:53:17.600 --> 1:53:21.559 well equipped now to just not really believe too much 1:53:21.640 --> 1:53:24.799 as positive surrounding the Colts and decision making in general. 1:53:25.200 --> 1:53:28.599 So do you believe Pierce's situation to be better than 1:53:28.680 --> 1:53:31.800 what we all may believe it ourselves to be right now? 1:53:35.200 --> 1:53:39.120 I mean I would say, yes, they should be careful. Okay, 1:53:39.240 --> 1:53:43.760 they should be prudent. So I will never knock a 1:53:43.840 --> 1:53:47.880 team for being prudent with a star player not in August, Okay, 1:53:48.040 --> 1:53:49.479 you know what I mean? Like, you don't go push 1:53:49.560 --> 1:53:51.559 him out there if he's not ready. However, that being 1:53:51.600 --> 1:53:57.120 said they were projecting early in camp. I mean, is 1:53:57.200 --> 1:53:57.920 it early in camp? 1:53:58.000 --> 1:53:58.240 Still? 1:53:58.439 --> 1:54:03.120 I don't know, So I would say at best we 1:54:03.320 --> 1:54:09.240 have we have missed the the rosier projections. They've missed 1:54:09.240 --> 1:54:09.799 that already. 1:54:10.000 --> 1:54:10.519 You know what I mean. 1:54:11.360 --> 1:54:12.880 It doesn't mean it's like the end of the world, 1:54:13.000 --> 1:54:16.400 but I mean it's not. It's not best case scenario 1:54:16.640 --> 1:54:20.280 right now with Alex Pears, it's not that I know 1:54:20.280 --> 1:54:22.639 if it's worst case scenario, but it's not best case. 1:54:23.240 --> 1:54:25.160 So you know, are we over analyzing it? Maybe a 1:54:25.200 --> 1:54:28.280 little bit. He'll be back when he's back. But all 1:54:28.320 --> 1:54:31.960 I canna tell you is each day that goes by, 1:54:33.160 --> 1:54:35.640 I would say that the level of concern grows at 1:54:35.720 --> 1:54:36.240 least a little. 1:54:36.840 --> 1:54:41.400 Steven Holder walking us through familiar territory with the cold 1:54:43.480 --> 1:54:47.320 Andy Moore Automotive Group, pot Lie, Hey, safe travels to 1:54:47.480 --> 1:54:50.160 Foxborough and we'll check it again next week and see 1:54:50.200 --> 1:54:53.160 what the hell happens this week? Okay, Well I'm staying 1:54:53.200 --> 1:54:55.360 home this week, so you are Okay, we'll check out 1:54:55.440 --> 1:54:55.800 next week. 1:54:55.840 --> 1:54:58.680 We'll I got stuff going on, but I'll be out 1:54:58.720 --> 1:54:59.400 there for the rest of it. 1:55:00.000 --> 1:55:03.080 All right. Well, hey, well, still, you and I gather 1:55:03.360 --> 1:55:06.240 next Monday to see what they will happen regardless. Thanks Alle, 1:55:06.280 --> 1:55:10.800 appreciate you. Stephen Holder. There on the Eddy Moore Automotive 1:55:10.840 --> 1:55:17.000 Group pieline, this date in nineteen eighty four. This is 1:55:17.120 --> 1:55:22.720 well well before our good friend Caleb Zuver and the 1:55:22.800 --> 1:55:28.720 other studio the Cold War classic Red Dawn. Now, since 1:55:28.800 --> 1:55:30.880 that point in time, More than Your Wheelhouse would probably 1:55:30.920 --> 1:55:36.240 be one of the world's crappier remakes. Have you ever 1:55:36.280 --> 1:55:40.480 seen Red Dawn? The crappy remake? But what about the 1:55:40.680 --> 1:55:46.840 nineteen eighty four original on the classic No Dice? Do 1:55:46.960 --> 1:55:53.120 you know these names? See Thomas Howell? Do you know 1:55:54.160 --> 1:55:54.920 Jennifer Gray? 1:55:57.040 --> 1:55:59.200 That one actually does sound familiar. 1:55:59.360 --> 1:56:03.880 I won't want Ferris Buelder's day off, dirty dancing, get 1:56:03.920 --> 1:56:08.520 a face redone, don't pretty smoke? How about Leah Thompson? 1:56:09.480 --> 1:56:15.000 She is still smoke? Do you ever see all the 1:56:15.080 --> 1:56:19.160 right moves the football film from the early eighties, Tom Cruise, 1:56:20.040 --> 1:56:23.680 you saw a little uh little side B as I 1:56:23.840 --> 1:56:27.320 like to call it from Leah Thompson back then, And 1:56:27.480 --> 1:56:29.360 if you I don't, If you paused it, you could 1:56:29.360 --> 1:56:31.920 see the more than the side B. You know what 1:56:32.040 --> 1:56:36.920 the side B is? I do? Yeah? All the right 1:56:38.160 --> 1:56:44.760 the late great Patrick Swayze, okay, okay, and Charlie Sheen. 1:56:46.160 --> 1:56:49.600 So all the right moves in Red Dawn are getting added, Yes, 1:56:50.040 --> 1:56:52.560 all the right moves. And I still have any redecked 1:56:52.680 --> 1:56:53.640 one of them off, so. 1:56:54.280 --> 1:56:57.400 I add those red down. The original or not. The 1:56:57.520 --> 1:57:03.120 remake sucked. But this date in eighty four, Red Dawn 1:57:03.280 --> 1:57:09.919 came out and it was probably outside of just being entertaining. 1:57:10.320 --> 1:57:12.360 And we know this to be true. The nineteen eighties 1:57:12.760 --> 1:57:17.720 there's no discussion, there's no debate. Seriously, it is the 1:57:17.880 --> 1:57:24.080 absolute best decade for anything, the best for entertainment, for TV, 1:57:24.760 --> 1:57:30.160 for movies, for music, for everything. Now all you dorks 1:57:30.200 --> 1:57:31.720 out there are going to say, well, what about our 1:57:31.760 --> 1:57:34.120 phones and the smartphones? Yeah, shove them where the sun 1:57:34.200 --> 1:57:38.680 don't shine, because you didn't need them. The eighties by 1:57:38.960 --> 1:57:44.400 far the greatest decade. And this marked a moment and 1:57:44.640 --> 1:57:48.640 entertainment history, this date back in nineteen eighty four, even 1:57:48.760 --> 1:57:53.640 beyond the Cold War classic known as Red Dawn. I'll 1:57:53.640 --> 1:57:56.120 explain that coming up on the other side, I saw 1:57:56.200 --> 1:57:58.120 the fever met with the media. See if you can 1:57:58.280 --> 1:58:00.240 peel a little bit of something something out of that. 1:58:00.440 --> 1:58:06.080 I do not think that the whole situation after the 1:58:06.160 --> 1:58:08.560 game and the presser I've been talking about with Stephanie White. 1:58:08.600 --> 1:58:12.440 I don't think that that was approached a little bit earlier, 1:58:12.600 --> 1:58:15.080 but there is a little bit of dialogue we can play. 1:58:15.120 --> 1:58:17.240 We'll do that coming up on the other side. Going 1:58:17.280 --> 1:58:19.440 to be a busy week. We'll explain. We'll come back 1:58:19.480 --> 1:58:22.440 coming up on the other side. But yes, the weather update, 1:58:22.520 --> 1:58:28.800 we got for you Fox fifty nine, the ride with 1:58:29.080 --> 1:58:31.120 JMV and You're nothing but. 1:58:31.240 --> 1:58:36.280 A chameleon lemonheaded chower Challenge and I'm got for you, buddy. 1:58:36.480 --> 1:58:38.360 You're gonna pay for it to night. 1:58:38.680 --> 1:58:40.960 Thank you very much, Sir Natty three five and one 1:58:41.040 --> 1:58:46.880 oh seven five the fan, Caleb's over there, I'm John. 1:58:47.600 --> 1:58:54.320 Tomorrow, the NBA will officially announce Opening Night in Christmas Day. 1:58:56.000 --> 1:59:00.040 Will Dad Moods Sports and Rooster be accurate? Will the 1:59:00.160 --> 1:59:03.600 Pacers and the Knicks lead off Christmas Day from Madison 1:59:03.680 --> 1:59:07.600 Square Garden or might we get to make fun of 1:59:07.680 --> 1:59:15.720 them for being incredibly misinformed. We'll find out coming up tomorrow. 1:59:15.840 --> 1:59:18.680 Dad Bought Sports and Rooster have a lot riding on this. 1:59:19.000 --> 1:59:21.440 Coming up tomorrow, the official announcement to. 1:59:21.480 --> 1:59:23.440 Be a fly on the wall wherever they are. 1:59:23.800 --> 1:59:25.520 One of these days, it would be nice if we 1:59:25.680 --> 1:59:31.440 find out the type of television content provider that the 1:59:31.520 --> 1:59:33.400 Pacers are going to have. I'm assuming it is going 1:59:33.480 --> 1:59:37.360 to be his own. I'm telling you, don't jack with 1:59:37.440 --> 1:59:41.720 people around here. People are sick and tired of being 1:59:41.840 --> 1:59:46.520 jacked with. That has to be it, right, because we've 1:59:46.600 --> 1:59:51.040 heard absolutely nothing else. Would it be a pleasant surprise 1:59:51.360 --> 1:59:56.800 if it was something incredibly affordable and easy to find, Yes, 1:59:58.720 --> 2:00:02.880 But unfortunately I believe that everybody out there thinks that 2:00:03.000 --> 2:00:05.400 we're going to be jacked with. What was that price 2:00:05.520 --> 2:00:08.560 tech again for the Zone a month? Like thirty four 2:00:08.960 --> 2:00:11.440 thirty four dollars a month. Let me tell you something, Pacers, 2:00:11.480 --> 2:00:14.480 There's zero way people are going to do that around here. None. 2:00:16.280 --> 2:00:19.240 So I would guess the more that you're on national TV, 2:00:19.600 --> 2:00:21.960 the better off. And believe me, they're no bigger fans 2:00:22.120 --> 2:00:30.600 than me, Denari, Quinn, JJ and Eddie and I'll have 2:00:30.760 --> 2:00:35.040 to spend it. But I feel like I've been jacked 2:00:35.080 --> 2:00:36.320 with and be pissy all the way. 2:00:37.560 --> 2:00:40.480 I don't know if we can shine light because the 2:00:40.560 --> 2:00:44.440 Timberwolves finalize their agreement with the Zone, so that's like, 2:00:44.600 --> 2:00:45.640 so what was what was it? 2:00:45.720 --> 2:00:47.000 Do you have it in front of you right here? 2:00:47.080 --> 2:00:49.520 And this is what I'm trying to look but what 2:00:49.640 --> 2:00:52.480 it says here on their website, because there's a frequently 2:00:52.560 --> 2:00:55.560 asked questions for about this timber this is Timberwolves specific. 2:00:55.600 --> 2:00:56.400 I want to make that clear. 2:00:56.480 --> 2:00:59.400 Yeah, this is not Pacers or anybody else but just Minnesota, 2:00:59.480 --> 2:01:02.400 and they're shine a light into what we might see here. 2:01:03.240 --> 2:01:05.880 One of them is how much will it dizone subscription costs? 2:01:05.920 --> 2:01:07.960 And what are the subscription options? This is all it 2:01:08.000 --> 2:01:11.880 says here. The zone will offer various Timberwolves subscription options, 2:01:11.880 --> 2:01:16.240 including a season pass, season pass, and monthly plans. Full pricing, 2:01:16.320 --> 2:01:20.839 promotional offers, and purchase details will be announced once launched. 2:01:20.880 --> 2:01:25.080 So there's looks like there's at least some flexibility with this, 2:01:25.560 --> 2:01:29.080 but it looks like it's going to be season monthly. 2:01:29.680 --> 2:01:34.920 Is the zone offered via direct TV? It is not, 2:01:35.120 --> 2:01:40.280 I don't think so or or nothing cable. It's going 2:01:40.320 --> 2:01:42.000 to be an app, not duray it's going to be 2:01:42.760 --> 2:01:45.600 but an app that's going to be spinning around like 2:01:45.760 --> 2:01:47.839 crazy and Jackie with everybody. 2:01:48.200 --> 2:01:51.000 Yeah, right, Because it says how do I access the 2:01:51.080 --> 2:01:56.200 Timberwolves on the Zone, and it says Timberwolves subscriptions will 2:01:56.200 --> 2:01:58.440 be available for purchase on the The Zone app before 2:01:58.520 --> 2:02:03.080 the season begins, So yeah, it does say here though. 2:02:03.120 --> 2:02:05.520 In addition, fifteen games will be shown for free for 2:02:05.640 --> 2:02:08.840 any fan who creates a free de Zonne account, So 2:02:09.720 --> 2:02:11.080 fifteen of them will be for free. 2:02:11.440 --> 2:02:13.560 But then it remains to be seen what happens with 2:02:13.640 --> 2:02:16.520 the rest of them. This is just a Minnesota Timberwolves. 2:02:16.040 --> 2:02:19.720 The Minnesota Timberwolves. I don't think I like that. 2:02:20.720 --> 2:02:21.200 I don't either. 2:02:22.400 --> 2:02:26.520 I don't think I like any of this, and I 2:02:26.840 --> 2:02:31.520 expect me to be incredibly pissy upon announcement. I don't 2:02:31.520 --> 2:02:33.880 want to be pissy. I don't like you. I mean 2:02:34.320 --> 2:02:35.960 a lot of you guys say, well, you're pissy all 2:02:36.000 --> 2:02:37.640 the time. You seem like you like it. I don't 2:02:37.720 --> 2:02:44.720 like it whatsoever. The next two years, man, don't mess it. 2:02:45.400 --> 2:02:51.360 Just don't mess with it. We'll see. I don't know 2:02:51.480 --> 2:02:53.920 if anybody else around here can help. Any of the 2:02:54.120 --> 2:02:57.760 local channels. God knows, they all stink and there's nothing 2:02:57.800 --> 2:02:58.640 good on them anyway. 2:02:58.840 --> 2:03:00.640 Well, I was going to say too, speaking to that, 2:03:00.720 --> 2:03:02.720 I did see something today John with the Pistons. 2:03:03.280 --> 2:03:03.520 Yeah. 2:03:04.480 --> 2:03:07.520 Now, this is like there were some stations that agreed 2:03:07.560 --> 2:03:10.240 to broadcast their games locally in Detroit, and then there 2:03:10.360 --> 2:03:12.480 was Grand Rapids, which is a city like a hour 2:03:12.560 --> 2:03:16.560 or two away. There's stations there that are broadcasting them 2:03:16.600 --> 2:03:20.920 locally for free. Starting this Okay, So that's that the 2:03:21.000 --> 2:03:23.760 Timberwolf thing might be kind of like a negative look 2:03:23.800 --> 2:03:26.840 at it, But then there's also like some stations are. 2:03:27.760 --> 2:03:29.160 Making it up making it look positive. 2:03:29.160 --> 2:03:33.200 I guess, so free and easy would be a great 2:03:33.240 --> 2:03:38.440 way to go about it. I hope it is. Now 2:03:38.520 --> 2:03:42.520 we'll find out tomorrow with the NBA schedule for Opening 2:03:42.640 --> 2:03:46.440 Night and for Christmas Day, and we'll find out if 2:03:46.880 --> 2:03:50.080 Rooster and if Dead Bod Sports would be accurate regarding 2:03:50.120 --> 2:03:52.600 the Pacers and the Knicks to lead things off on 2:03:52.720 --> 2:03:56.120 Christmas Day. I'd mentioned this this date. Nineteen eighty four, 2:03:56.400 --> 2:04:02.120 Red Dawn, Cold War at Classic. A lot of the 2:04:02.200 --> 2:04:04.360 Brat Pack, a lot of those from the eighties that 2:04:04.480 --> 2:04:09.880 we still love today involved, but most noted for what 2:04:12.040 --> 2:04:17.120 it became the first movie Caleb with the newly created 2:04:17.360 --> 2:04:26.000 PG thirteen rating. The first movie PG thirteen where it 2:04:26.040 --> 2:04:33.360 all started, Red Dawn in nineteen eighty four. Did you know? Now, 2:04:33.480 --> 2:04:37.640 you know, it's weird, like they're all sitting in class 2:04:37.840 --> 2:04:40.560 in Colorado and all of a sudden, all these paratroopers 2:04:40.720 --> 2:04:46.040 come parachuting down. Now, I think the teacher gets smoked, 2:04:46.160 --> 2:04:49.120 Like right out of the gate, it gets serious, man. 2:04:49.160 --> 2:04:50.440 You're saying this Pg. Thirteen. 2:04:51.240 --> 2:04:53.680 That's why it's Pg. Thirteen. Probably right out of the gate. 2:04:55.320 --> 2:04:56.960 I think we need to get a segment on here 2:04:57.000 --> 2:04:59.560 and did you know and it could just be you 2:05:00.080 --> 2:05:01.160 you're random. 2:05:01.080 --> 2:05:06.800 Yes, we do. We need that, need that Pg. Thirteen. 2:05:06.920 --> 2:05:10.480 It is all right. The Fever had a meeting with 2:05:10.520 --> 2:05:12.240 the media a little bit earlier today. The Fever in 2:05:12.320 --> 2:05:15.160 New York actually back to back games on Friday. We're 2:05:15.160 --> 2:05:17.160 going to be down there as Debbie and Pat going 2:05:17.200 --> 2:05:18.600 to join us coming up on Friday. 2:05:18.720 --> 2:05:20.120 That's the plan. It looks like it's going to be 2:05:20.160 --> 2:05:21.360 in the last hour of the show. 2:05:21.400 --> 2:05:24.200 It's hanging out. That's great. Well, I'll be all half 2:05:24.280 --> 2:05:30.080 in the bag by then. That'd be great radio. Right, Yes, 2:05:30.480 --> 2:05:34.480 So that's on Friday. Hearst Lamontes will bring us to 2:05:34.600 --> 2:05:37.920 you live from the Pivot Balcony bar. And you know 2:05:38.120 --> 2:05:42.160 this as downtown locations go. One of my favorites just 2:05:42.400 --> 2:05:47.840 right across Pennsylvania from Gambridge Field House. On back to 2:05:47.960 --> 2:05:51.360 back games. New York coming up tomorrow night, Dallas coming 2:05:51.440 --> 2:05:53.680 up on Friday night. We will be down at Pivot 2:05:53.800 --> 2:05:57.480 Balcony Bar and we'll get Pat and Debbie with us 2:05:57.600 --> 2:06:00.200 coming up on Friday in that final hour. As you 2:06:00.280 --> 2:06:03.280 mentioned too, we'll have a lot going on considering that'll 2:06:03.320 --> 2:06:05.840 be coming off that first preseason game with the Colts. 2:06:05.960 --> 2:06:09.480 Keep in mind on Thursday four thirty for the Colts 2:06:09.600 --> 2:06:12.760 pregame huddle. We'll start in the middle of this show 2:06:13.600 --> 2:06:16.360 and we're gonna have a lot more in the Colts 2:06:16.440 --> 2:06:19.680 pregame with us of Rick Venturi this season. That is 2:06:19.800 --> 2:06:23.960 going to be outstanding. Less of me, more of Rick 2:06:24.840 --> 2:06:31.000 is always incredibly good. That starts coming up on Thursday. 2:06:31.800 --> 2:06:36.200 Rakestraw hanging with us tomorrow. I should mention Plow, but 2:06:36.400 --> 2:06:39.280 again it's kind of what you know, a winner in 2:06:39.440 --> 2:06:43.640 Portland yesterday, in Indy car and some maybe some things 2:06:43.720 --> 2:06:46.680 we haven't hit. I was funny, I was watching what 2:06:46.800 --> 2:06:49.640 the Reds were doing this weekend. Just an absolute disaster 2:06:49.800 --> 2:06:52.640 to go along with a disastrous season for that group. 2:06:52.720 --> 2:06:55.680 We saw. Once again, I didn't really I should have 2:06:55.880 --> 2:07:00.880 and I have checked out altogether right now and rightly, 2:07:01.040 --> 2:07:04.560 so all right, quick break will come back final time. 2:07:04.640 --> 2:07:06.640 You and I on the other side to State Fair 2:07:06.800 --> 2:07:10.840 free throw shooting competition coming up on Saturday eleven until one. 2:07:11.400 --> 2:07:14.320 A chance for you to compete with me and win 2:07:14.720 --> 2:07:18.640 a family four pack of passes to the Indiana State Fair. 2:07:18.760 --> 2:07:22.360 Clayton Anderson Free Show coming up tomorrow night at the 2:07:22.440 --> 2:07:25.360 Indiana State Fair. More on that and then some to 2:07:25.440 --> 2:07:28.680 close the show, Kaleb me all that and more to 2:07:28.800 --> 2:07:30.480 close out with you coming up next. 2:07:34.400 --> 2:07:36.040 The ride with JMV. 2:07:36.480 --> 2:07:38.560 This is how I eat corner the cob, I boil it, 2:07:38.720 --> 2:07:41.120 I go shirtless out of my back deck, eat it 2:07:41.440 --> 2:07:44.760 like I ravage it, and then throw the cob out. 2:07:44.680 --> 2:07:47.160 Into the back forty NY three five and one oh 2:07:47.320 --> 2:07:48.840 seven five the fan. 2:07:50.520 --> 2:07:52.400 You know, I think just from being from a humanistic 2:07:52.480 --> 2:07:54.880 perspective and lifeless and perspective, you know, I think our 2:07:54.920 --> 2:07:57.240 group does a really good job of responding. I think 2:07:57.280 --> 2:07:59.840 our group does a really good job of scoring in 2:08:00.160 --> 2:08:02.640 one another, keeping the main thing with a thing of 2:08:02.840 --> 2:08:05.080 understanding that there are a lot of folks out there 2:08:05.120 --> 2:08:05.680 who want. 2:08:05.560 --> 2:08:06.200 To divide us. 2:08:07.600 --> 2:08:12.960 Yeah, and while that is true. Caitlin Clark does the 2:08:13.080 --> 2:08:16.200 best with that, I mean even with the technicals and 2:08:16.280 --> 2:08:19.280 you know, getting one more, having the one rescinded on Saturday, 2:08:19.360 --> 2:08:22.040 which was you know, the easiest call to make of 2:08:22.120 --> 2:08:26.480 all time to rescind that, But to put yourself in 2:08:26.560 --> 2:08:29.640 that situation, it is one thing. But I most admire 2:08:29.680 --> 2:08:33.760 of Caitlyn Clark is how she just goes about wanting 2:08:33.800 --> 2:08:41.760 to play basketball, and I think that helps galvanize a 2:08:41.880 --> 2:08:45.520 locker room and a team. That is Stephanie White mentioned 2:08:45.600 --> 2:08:51.440 right there can often be compromised because of all the 2:08:51.600 --> 2:08:57.240 outside talk and the verbal grifters, those that want to 2:08:57.360 --> 2:09:03.960 hijack the storylines or make themselves thrust themselves into it. 2:09:05.080 --> 2:09:08.880 A couple of things happen on Saturday. One is the 2:09:08.960 --> 2:09:14.160 fever one. The other is you had a couple of 2:09:14.400 --> 2:09:21.560 incredibly easy calls Djona Carrington, that was a reckless defensive 2:09:21.640 --> 2:09:25.840 play and deserve it of an ass tossing see ya. 2:09:27.680 --> 2:09:30.440 And then the whole white privileged thing in the locker 2:09:30.560 --> 2:09:35.000 room and everybody has had a comment about that. Everybody 2:09:35.080 --> 2:09:37.200 knows what it means, and now you try to double 2:09:37.280 --> 2:09:38.880 back where you don't really know what it means. You know, 2:09:39.000 --> 2:09:42.320 everybody knows what it means. Had nothing to do with 2:09:42.800 --> 2:09:48.320 the foul call and then the ejection, the move, your 2:09:48.440 --> 2:09:52.120 actions doing that had everything to do with it. There 2:09:52.200 --> 2:09:55.840 is no way. And you watch ESPN. The ESPN folks 2:09:55.880 --> 2:09:59.600 in that booth, who are they there's a Monica McNutt. 2:09:59.280 --> 2:10:01.200 And then studio whatever. 2:10:01.440 --> 2:10:06.200 Yeah, you know the video you showed to say, well, 2:10:06.240 --> 2:10:08.960 this is just what she does. I don't know what 2:10:09.400 --> 2:10:11.800 she does or what she doesn't, but I know this. 2:10:12.160 --> 2:10:18.440 I rarely see in women's basketball anybody that blocks a 2:10:18.560 --> 2:10:24.280 shot that's not just taller or blocking from behind on 2:10:24.440 --> 2:10:27.280 the interior. There's no way you were going to block that. 2:10:27.600 --> 2:10:30.840 The one thing you were going to do was knock 2:10:30.920 --> 2:10:33.920 Sophie Cunningham to the floor with a forearm, elbow to 2:10:34.000 --> 2:10:39.400 the neck. And the right call there was made. It 2:10:39.560 --> 2:10:42.720 had nothing to do with anything personal or nothing to 2:10:42.800 --> 2:10:45.480 do with who the foul was on the team you 2:10:45.560 --> 2:10:50.040 were playing against. But the massive era era after the 2:10:50.160 --> 2:10:54.200 game was with Stephanie White just doing what she's talking 2:10:54.240 --> 2:10:58.880 about right there, you know, further galvanizing your huddle and 2:10:58.960 --> 2:11:04.680 your locker room by denouncing the action. You don't have 2:11:04.840 --> 2:11:08.760 to suggest there was absolute intent, because nobody really knows, 2:11:08.960 --> 2:11:13.400 but you know that to be egregious, you know it 2:11:13.520 --> 2:11:19.440 to be reckless, and you can describe it as such. Now, 2:11:19.560 --> 2:11:24.480 people like me would just say it was a dumbass play. 2:11:25.720 --> 2:11:28.640 That's what it was. And I don't care if it 2:11:28.720 --> 2:11:36.080 were Sophie Cunningham or Caitlin Clark or anybody in nineteen 2:11:36.120 --> 2:11:38.400 eighty five. If you want to come down and close 2:11:38.480 --> 2:11:46.200 line somebody on the break, all right, but in twenty 2:11:46.320 --> 2:11:54.440 twenty six can't do it. And everything the way that 2:11:54.520 --> 2:11:57.320 it was officiated, all that was accurate. But you just 2:11:57.560 --> 2:12:00.080 want to see and believe me. I'm a backer of 2:12:00.160 --> 2:12:03.240 Stephanie White. I don't mind her coaching. Everybody else does 2:12:03.360 --> 2:12:07.600 because everybody else blames her for absolutely everything. In this case, 2:12:07.720 --> 2:12:11.520 I blame her because that was an easy opportunity to 2:12:11.720 --> 2:12:15.840 further galvanize this team and make sure that you can 2:12:17.160 --> 2:12:20.560 continue to defend those that don't have your best interest 2:12:20.600 --> 2:12:24.960 in mind. He didn't take advantage of it. That's unfortunate, Caleb. 2:12:25.040 --> 2:12:27.360 Great job out of you. Brendan Dudas our good friend 2:12:27.440 --> 2:12:31.640 from Southport, the New York Green Apples whiffle Ball Champions 2:12:31.920 --> 2:12:34.960 Stephen Holder Podcast one oh seven five thefan dot Com 2:12:35.160 --> 2:12:41.000 busy Tomorrow, Caleb, they want your ex handle two people 2:12:41.240 --> 2:12:45.800 like Caleb soon five seventy five Fan of a Great 2:12:45.920 --> 2:12:46.120 Night