1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning Show 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five The 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Fans Again, if you're listening to the Fan Morning Show 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: ninety three five seven five. 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: Fan sometimes Slesmas, sometimes it does instead. 6 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, starting to get weepy. Back there already, 7 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: Mark dyked and you you are on the train where 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: you just think Alec Pierce is as good as gone, 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: right now. 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: Right clean next ready, I'm already wiping tears. 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 3: I think Kevin thinks it's not so quite clear at 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: this point in time. But James, what I heard yesterday, 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: and we'll play some of it here coming up in 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 3: a moment. It just it sounded like it was difficult 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: for him to sometimes get the words out, and then 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: he did kind of ease up as the as the 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: interview went on. But sure sounds like you said it 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: best a guy that's open for business on the free market. 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Mark, If you have the audio queued up, let's 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 5: go to that so we can hear from Alec himself 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 5: when he was asked, I believe, by k Adams about 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 5: just the free agency experience, and you know what's kind 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 5: of his mindset going into it. 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 4: So now we may have a quarterback. 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 6: Now, how does that affect the way you're thinking what's 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 6: important to you? 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 7: Yeah? You know, at this point now it's like, I 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 7: love Indy. I've loved playing there. Great organization, great people 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 7: in the city. You know, just a lot of a 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 7: ton of support. I know we haven't been as good 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 7: as we we could be, and I know we can be, 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 7: but yeah, not at this point. 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: Kind of earned the right to. 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 7: Explore free agency, see what's out there, and just you know, 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 7: make a decision that's best for my career from my family. 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: You hear that The voice just sounded a little unsure, 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: didn't it. Who Alec Pierce sounded like he was struggling 38 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: to talk about how much he loved Indianapolis and all 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: those kinds of things. 40 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if I interpreted like that. I think 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 5: that so as someone who's covered the guy for four years. 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 5: Alec does not talk about himself ever, even after he 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 5: has like great plays. 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: You know this, Kevin. 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 5: I mean, sometimes he's the one of the worst quotes 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 5: after a game and you're thinking of yourself. Boy, I 47 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 5: wish I had a little more you know, swagger in 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 5: this answer. But I do think that he kind of 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 5: made it clear. Look, man, I've earned the right to 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 5: weigh all my options and also I'm a damn good player, 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 5: so because of that, it won't come cheap. 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, when we get into these situations, we psycho analyze 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 8: the hell out of these interviews. 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 4: Oh the coolttar too. 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 8: I mean it's my numbing can you imagine? Do you 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 8: remember is Jonathan Taylor wearing the hoodie today? Like it 57 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 8: was just like tracking all away Kevin having to try 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 8: and decipher this. So to a lot of people hearing 59 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 8: Alec Pierce have a fifteen minute interview yesterday, that might 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 8: have been the first time they've ever heard Alec Pierce 61 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 8: talk for longer than a minute. 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 9: In their lives. 63 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 8: Seriously, he just doesn't He's not a big talker. So 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 8: like when you listen to peers, Yeah, there are times 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 8: when you're like, oh, is he done answering a question 66 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 8: with Hey Adams, that's Alec Pierce. He's just not like 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 8: this long. You know, I don't know, expansive talker about 68 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 8: anything like, that's just really not him. We've had him, 69 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 8: you know, I think on the show, you know, you're 70 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 8: not getting him on the show and thinking Okay, there's 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 8: four questions and twelve minutes. No, no, no, it's a 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 8: little bit more of the Shane Steichen camp. You're gonna 73 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 8: have to ask about twelve or fourteen questions to try 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 8: and get there. So I don't. I'm gonna try and 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 8: not like overly read body language and all of this 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 8: into Alec Pierce doing an interview that his agent probably 77 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 8: told him he had to do, because I think that's 78 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 8: largely what yesterday was. Now, you know, again, when you 79 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 8: hear his words, I understand when you just strictly transcribe 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 8: the question of what are you looking for in your 81 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 8: second contract? None of the three attributes he said would 82 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 8: explain the Colts to a common person. He wants what 83 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 8: quarterback play, he wants organizational stability, and he wants winning culture. 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 8: None of that is over there at West fifty sixth 85 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 8: Street to I think the common person. Now, I'll reiterate 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 8: what I said earlier. I think he believes in Daniel Jones, 87 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 8: big time, big time. So I believe he views that, 88 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 8: assuming he gets done, as a pro for the Colts 89 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 8: and as something that would make him want to come 90 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 8: back there. But again, the other parts, organizational stability and 91 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 8: winning culture. 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess there has been stability. 93 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 8: They haven't touched the GM in quite a while, but 94 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 8: the winning culture obviously has not been there. 95 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 9: James, how much is too much to keep Alec Pierce? 96 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: If there's an open bidding war with several teams out there, 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: what is the point at which you gotta do something else? 98 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 4: A tough question. I really don't know. 99 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 5: I mean, if he's asking for forty million, like he's 100 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 5: Jamar Chase, then no. But I think he'll probably be 101 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 5: somewhere in that twenty seven to thirty million dollar range. 102 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 5: And again, this should not surprise you given the fact 103 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 5: that you did tag Daniel Jones, you did try to 104 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 5: save some money there, and you knew that Alec was 105 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 5: going to be expensive. Wrote a story and it came 106 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 5: out this morning. It wasn't anything that's like groundbreaking. I know, Kevin, 107 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 5: you cover it as well here on one of seven 108 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 5: five the fan dot com. I encourage you all to 109 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 5: read that. But I go back to November when we're 110 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 5: talking to Reggie Wayne and he's saying, oh yeah, his 111 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 5: price is going up. A week later, literally a week later, 112 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 5: Michael Pittman Junior says, oh yeah, we should probably get 113 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 5: that done like right now, because he's going to be expensive, 114 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 5: and he is expensive, so the Colts have not been 115 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 5: blindsided by any means. So now you're at the mercy 116 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 5: of a dude, dude who again has free will in 117 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 5: full control over his future. Now I do a fun 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: fact question for you all, and Kevin you might know 119 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: this because you're in the weeds like I am. How 120 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 5: many quarterbacks do you think Alec Pierce has had as 121 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 5: a starter in his four years in Indianapolis? 122 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: Which is a question for Jeff and Mark. 123 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: Uh in four years, I'm gonna go with. 124 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 9: Six. 125 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 4: Mark, repeat that question one more time. Sorry. 126 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 5: How many starting quarterbacks has Alec Pierce had and is 127 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 5: four years with the Colts to start at least one game? 128 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: I'm trying to do mental math here. 129 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 9: I'll say five. Nine. 130 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 8: Jesus wow, I was, I was writing them down. I 131 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 8: was at eight nine. Wows do you have in front 132 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 8: of him? 133 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: I haven't in front of me. If you want to 134 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 5: try to rattle them off, I can. I can let you. 135 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 9: I might have missed a whole year. 136 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 4: Let's see if you can. 137 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 8: Get on the Ryan sam Ellinger, Anthony Richardson, Joe Flacco, Riley, 138 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 8: Leonard Phillip Rivers, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew. 139 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 4: God, that it's only been four years. My god, you 140 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: forgot the guy coming back on a transition. 141 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 9: Tag, Daniel Joe. 142 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 8: I'm my gosh, I'm an idiot. 143 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: One you did. You didn't get that alec is talking about. 144 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 5: You can't even name the guy who's supposed to be 145 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 5: the guy coming into this next season. 146 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: That's an insane a list for only four years. 147 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 8: I can see Nick Foles still doing snow ange or 148 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 8: cave on tiboda. Nick Foles is sitting on the I. 149 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: Was looking at this list and I was thinking to myself, boy, 150 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 5: outside of Riley starting the season finale this past season 151 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 5: or regular season finale, every. 152 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: Other quarterback started more. 153 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 5: Than once on this list, and they were playing in 154 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 5: meaningful games like I believe when Sam Ellinger took over 155 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 5: the Colts might have been I want to see maybe 156 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 5: three five and one or something. 157 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: They were like kind of in like the mix. It 158 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: wasn't like, oh. 159 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 5: We of course, not with the Colts. We want a 160 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: bunch of games. We're gonna sit a dude, let them play. No, 161 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 5: they like actually needed these guys, and so that to 162 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 5: me was mind blown when I went back through it 163 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: and kind of like Kevin tried to count him out, 164 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: and I'm like, wait a second, I think I'm missing something. 165 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 5: And then I went back and I was like, wait, 166 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 5: I got to seven, I think, and here we are 167 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 5: at nine. 168 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: Tough. 169 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, there is a part of me and I need 170 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 8: to probably remove myself from this here over the next 171 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 8: five days and again Monday by noon is probably the 172 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 8: next kind of deadline to watch here. But I I 173 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 8: there is an element of me. I'm like, the Colts, 174 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 8: aren't this dumb? 175 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 10: Right? 176 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 8: Right? Like I don't know, I don't know that I know, 177 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 8: but I have said that out loud. Maddie's probably looked 178 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 8: at me a few times in the last forty eight 179 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 8: hours like are you talking in your sleep here? But 180 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 8: I've uttered that phrase. And let me explain. They've paid 181 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 8: all of these non premium positions over the years. They've 182 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 8: paid running back, they've paid linebacker, they've paid safety, they've 183 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 8: paid guard, they paid center a ton of money with 184 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 8: Ryan Kelly, Like, they've paid all of these non premium positions. 185 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 8: You're telling me when the premium position twenty five year 186 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 8: old with no major injury history and it possesses a 187 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 8: trait that is beyond coveted in today's NFL of creating 188 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 8: big plays consistently. You're telling me when it's time to 189 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 8: pay that dude, you're not going to That's where I'm like, 190 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 8: They're not that dumb, are they. They've paid all the 191 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 8: others that I would argue don't matter as much as 192 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 8: this guy does. Hell, they're willing to pay a quarterback 193 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 8: off of torn Achilles in less than a year. And 194 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 8: now you have, I mean, name me a player at 195 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 8: a premium position that has had the start of a 196 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 8: career like Alec Pierce has had for this organization. You know, 197 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 8: there's not many, really, I mean, Bernard Rayman may be 198 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 8: the only one. Certainly, no one at defensive end, certainly, 199 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 8: no one at cornerback, certainly know one at quarterback. And 200 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 8: all of a sudden, this guy pops up. You drafted him, 201 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 8: you've developed him, you've believed in him. Chris Ballwart has 202 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 8: always been a huge Alec Pierce believer. So that's where 203 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 8: I'm like, No, You're not that dumb, are you. 204 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: Here's what to Jet's point, is there a number, right? 205 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: And even if you met here's the thing, even if 206 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: the Colts match whatever the number is out there, Let's 207 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: say it gets to thirty million dollars and the Colts 208 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: go to your point, Kevin, gotta have this guy. 209 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: He's our guy. 210 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: We developed him, we found him, he's he's our guy. 211 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: But if one of the other teams is Kansas City 212 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 3: or Buffalo, if you're Alec Pierce, what do you do well? 213 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 8: The team that makes some news yesterday was New England 214 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 8: and at leasing safe fdays, opening up even more. They 215 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 8: already had some cap space, now they have even more. 216 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 8: They release a player six years older than Pierce at 217 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 8: that position, Drake May I think showed this year he 218 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 8: can throw the ball down the field at a very 219 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 8: high level. 220 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: He's also on a rookie deal. 221 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 8: That one was one that stood out to me. And 222 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 8: you know, Kay Adams did specifically ask him about Buffalo, 223 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 8: and you know he definitely was candid and saying, you 224 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 8: know that that would be special. I believe this is 225 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 8: exact quote. And Josh Allen obviously is a great, great player. 226 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 5: So she also threw in the Tennessee Titans and he 227 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 5: was like, oh yeah, they're closed. 228 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 8: When she started a quarterback, she started with the Titans 229 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 8: and the Giants. So I was like, where are we 230 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 8: going with this? 231 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: No, No, I would be beyond shocked if all things 232 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: being equal, he went to either the Giants or the Titans. 233 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 8: Well, I would say, do you think he runs to 234 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 8: highest bider? 235 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 4: No, I don't think he's wired that way. 236 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 5: But I do think that it is still a significant factor, 237 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 5: like what the price point is, which it should be 238 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 5: for any player in his position. But Alex doesn't strike 239 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 5: me as a type where it's like, whoever gives me 240 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 5: the absolute most. 241 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 4: Money, I'm gone. 242 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 5: But again, the Colts will have to open up that 243 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 5: check book and get creative, quite frankly when it comes 244 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 5: to trying to pay him long term and wellin the 245 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 5: next few days or so, doing some things, yes, to 246 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: help themselves to have I think I put it in 247 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: my story this morning, a legitimate chance to keep him 248 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 5: like hammer that point. Yeah, I mean it's not what's 249 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 5: the word I'm looking for. It's not even possible right 250 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 5: now for them to sign him. So they have to 251 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 5: make that possible. Just have the chance, a legitimate chance, 252 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 5: which means in my mind, you're trying to get a 253 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: long term deal done with Daniel Jones. Yesterday that's how 254 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 5: much we need to get this done, how quickly we 255 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 5: need to get this done. And then on top of that, 256 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 5: what other measures are you taking to create more cap space. 257 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 5: That could mean releasing Michael Pittman Jr. That could mean 258 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 5: trying to find a trade partner for him, though that 259 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 5: will be very hard because he has a huge cat 260 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 5: hit next year. That could mean restructuring him. That could 261 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 5: mean getting rid of Zaire Franklin Kennymore. Whoever, when it 262 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 5: comes to trying to just find some dollars so you 263 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 5: can make an offer that is competitive with the rest 264 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: of the market, because if you cannot and you do not, 265 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 5: Alex has everywhere to leave. 266 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: So let me take it one step further, same thing 267 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: I asked yesterday, knowing what you know now today, more 268 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: information from Alec Pierce himself. If you have to find 269 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: extra money to spend, what's more important to you, Kevin Bowen, 270 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: a guy like Trey Hendrickson at Edge or Alec Pearce 271 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: in his ability to stretch the field. 272 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, again, when it comes to Hendrickson, I will continue 273 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 8: to go with the Adolpha Oway situation. A little bit younger, 274 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 8: not coming off a hip surgery at the age of 275 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 8: thirty one. I'll be curious what the finances look like 276 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 8: for those two there. But James, you were all over 277 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 8: right there, you know, I asked Steven Holder yesterday, Pittman, Ziar, Franklin, Kennymore. 278 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 8: Are all four here next week? Are all four here 279 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 8: in September? I financially they have to do things creatively 280 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 8: to your point in the next handful of days, So 281 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 8: you know, to answer the question probably in a vacuum. 282 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 8: Defensive end is the bigger need. But Hendrickson versus Pierce, 283 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 8: to me is just that's not necessarily the pathway that 284 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 8: I would go down. 285 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: I think people are intrigued by it because of the 286 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: association between Henrickson and an Arumo. 287 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 8: Right right, I get that, and I think the colts, 288 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 8: you know, would have some intrigue there. But for me, 289 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 8: it's more of a you know again, can you try 290 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 8: and get a little bit younger at that position there? 291 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 10: Mark? 292 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: Who make a poll for that social media? 293 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 9: Sure? 294 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 5: Who would you rather have in free agency? If you 295 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: can only pick one, Trey Hendrickson or Alec Pierce? 296 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 8: I would say one player is ascending in Pierce and 297 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 8: the other player, you can make the argument is descending 298 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 8: in Hendrickson. 299 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: It's a good point. 300 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 5: But to Jeff's point, your edge rushers stunk outside of 301 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: laout too lot too, So do you want to try 302 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 5: to go get the guy who could be the splashy 303 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 5: free agent proven signing now? I will probably lean towards 304 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 5: Alec Pierce. I think he means that much to your 305 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 5: offense and how it looked with even a healthy Daniel Jones. 306 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 5: So if he's no longer a part of that equation, 307 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 5: I think it rages your offense drastically because the space 308 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 5: you get underneath because you have to respect Ala Piers 309 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 5: over the top, is very unique. It is unlike any 310 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 5: player in the NFL. Quite frankly. I mean, we're talking 311 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 5: about a guy who believed the last time someone had 312 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 5: this many yards per catch. I want to say Alex 313 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: was at twenty one point three last year, and also 314 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 5: a thousand yards in a season was sixteen years ago 315 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 5: with Deshaun Jackson in Philadelphia. So this doesn't happen very often. 316 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 5: I don't want to make it just seem like Alec 317 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 5: Pierce is Rashid Shaheed, the deep threat for Seattle who 318 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 5: was very explosive. 319 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: He's better than that. 320 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 5: As a true number one type of receiver, so I 321 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 5: would lean towards that. But also again, these are the 322 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 5: problems that you faced, Jeff, and I don't want to 323 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 5: dismiss it and say, you know, well, the hell with 324 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 5: the defense because that has to get revamped a lot too. 325 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's I think a good point. It's like, 326 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 8: I'm not going to fall into this trap of like 327 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 8: it's easier to replace a wide out. Pierce is different 328 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 8: than That's what makes much all of these wide outs. 329 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 8: I've said it a million times. He possesses the hardest 330 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 8: trait to replace. This gets back into our Pierce and 331 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 8: Pittman debate. I remember having this debate back in training camp, 332 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 8: saying the Colts at the end of the at the 333 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 8: end of the season might have a decision to make 334 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 8: between Alec Pierce and Michael Pittman Junior. And to me, 335 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 8: before the season started, it was Pierce again, what is 336 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 8: easier to replace? To me, the Pittman sort of consistency. 337 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 8: As we watch the World Baseball Classic here in studio, 338 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 8: these singles and the doubles of Michael Pittman Junior is 339 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 8: easier to find than the extra base hits in the 340 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 8: home runs of Alec Pierce. 341 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think I'm just so impressed with I 342 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 3: just struck out what his ability the last couple of years. 343 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: He's getting better and better and better. It's just going 344 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: up and getting But he's six'. Three he goes up 345 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: and gets balls and takes him away from. Guys he 346 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: seems to come down with every tight window catch that's 347 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 3: thrown his. 348 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 5: Way, James, YEAH i was having this conversation last year 349 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 5: With Reggie, wayne AND i hate WHEN i say last, 350 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 5: year like it was that long, ago last, season a 351 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 5: few months, ago last TIME i saw a risk past. Season, 352 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 5: Yeah And, jeff to your, POINT i was Asking Reggie, 353 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 5: wayne wait a. SECOND i know we kind of use 354 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 5: the term fifty to fifty, ball but isn't it more 355 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 5: like seventy thirty eighty twenty When Ala pierce is, around 356 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 5: BECAUSE a he's either gonna catch it OR b you're 357 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 5: gonna pass interference with, him or at the very least 358 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: he'll like make sure that you don't turn it. Over 359 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 5: so typically it's a low risk play with a very 360 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 5: high risk or i'm, sorry high yielding. Reward so WHEN 361 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 5: i look At, alec, YES i think he's a very 362 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 5: unique player who can still do more than perhaps he 363 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 5: was asked to do in This colt's, offense and you 364 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 5: mentioned that throughout the interview With Kay. Adams, like wait a, 365 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 5: SECOND i have had conversations with The, colts AND i 366 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 5: would imagine when he, can't that'll be on the table 367 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 5: for other. Teams it's, like, okay how will you use 368 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 5: me BECAUSE i want a bigger piece of the. 369 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 8: Pie, yeah let's not overly read the Tenses Alec pierce 370 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 8: used in the interview With Kay adams. YESTERDAY i saw 371 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 8: some people in the YouTube chat discussing that. Earlier there 372 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 8: are times where he talks in past tense and there 373 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 8: are times where he talks in future tents about his 374 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 8: situations with The. Cults and again this gets back to 375 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 8: the start of the. Conversation we psychoanalyze all these. Interviews 376 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 8: that's what we. Do in Early, march we did With 377 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 8: Jonathan taylor around training camp and his contract. Dispute what's 378 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 8: his bidy language, house he's. 379 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 9: Walking it's just. 380 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 8: Kind of How Alec pierce, talks you, Know he's just, 381 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 8: yeah yesterday is just kind of how he. Talks, NOW 382 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 8: i will reiterate for those that want hope for those 383 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 8: that want the doors still to be open For Alec 384 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 8: pearce returning to The. COLTS i think it is beyond 385 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 8: genuine his luw and his belief For Daniel. JONES i 386 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 8: know that that might sound crazy to, some BUT i 387 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 8: think that is very. REAL i think he is a 388 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 8: big believer In Daniel jones in his presence And. JAMES 389 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 8: i also think he's a really really appreciative player Of 390 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 8: Reggie wayne and What Reggie wayne has meant For alex's. 391 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 8: Career And reggie has been again a massive believer In 392 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 8: Alex pierce from day one and believing that growth could 393 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 8: be there in his, game WHICH i think you saw 394 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 8: some of that this season and kind of rounded out 395 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 8: that route. Tree that's Where i've kind of said throughout this, 396 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 8: hour there's a lot you can listen to yesterday and 397 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 8: say he, Gone AND i firmly believe the market will 398 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 8: be uber, competitive AND i have serious questions if the 399 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 8: cults are going to put their big boy pants on 400 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 8: to compete on that open. Market but don't listen to 401 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 8: yesterday and think he is gone one thousand. PERCENT i 402 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 8: am not of that belief here On thursday. 403 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: MORNING i also want to point out just you mentioned 404 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: that he's got the highest yards per catch Since Deshaun. 405 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 3: Jackson that's been a, while, Right but just to put 406 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: it in to today's, perspective if you throw Out Theoiese 407 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: junior who had six catches For miami's actually just, yeah 408 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: six receptions For miami and what of them happened to 409 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: be sixty three? Yards so it inflates. Everything you take 410 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 3: that cat out of the. Mix the ENTIRE Nfl Alec 411 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: pierce at twenty one point three yards per reception last 412 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: year on forty seven receptions is almost in, fact he 413 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: is for almost almost four yards better than the next 414 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: receiver in THE, nfl which Goes Calvin, Ridley Christian, Watson Jamison, 415 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: Williams Kayshawn, Boude Nico, Collins George, Pickens terry. 416 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 9: McLaurin way more yards per catch than all those. 417 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: Guys special, player and it's two years in a row 418 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: that he's averaging better than twenty yards a. 419 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 4: Catch that's what's probably helping him as. 420 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 5: WELL i know he hasn't had like the back to 421 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 5: back thousand thousand yard, seasons well truly like dominant touchdown. 422 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: SEASONS i believe he had six this past, season maybe 423 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 5: seven of the year before or something like. That but 424 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 5: the yards per, catch the ability to flip the, field the, 425 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 5: explosives that is what Makes alec different than anybody. Else and, honestly, 426 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 5: boys what kind of beared to lead? Here should we 427 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 5: take The Sauce gardner? Approach if you're A colts, fan. 428 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 8: He wants to lock him into a, Room. 429 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 5: SHOULD i Lock Alec pearce in my basement and force 430 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 5: him to sign the contract? 431 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 4: Papers, yes that's the one guy that can do it. 432 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 8: Right those two just remind everybody very good friends from 433 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 8: Their cincinnati. DAYS i Heard alex in the Interview alec 434 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 8: in the Interview astraea mentioned that they just played golf. 435 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 8: Recently Sauce gardner's got a golf swing. MAN i haven't 436 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 8: seen that on social. 437 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 5: MEDIA i feel Like sauce is one of those guys 438 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 5: who's probably just good at, Everything like, relatively he strikes 439 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 5: me as one of those guys where IF i, swim 440 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 5: IF i, golf IF i, hooped played basketball and played, football. 441 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: Obviously YEAH i, DID i. DID i. 442 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 5: DID i ask him why did you go the football 443 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 5: route not the basketball route like your? Brothers and he told, me, 444 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 5: well the jumper is a little. Broke but other than 445 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: that high, flyer you, know, defense, rebounding things of that. 446 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 11: Nature the pole question is out and it's not even 447 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 11: close right, now early, Start but if you could only 448 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 11: have one in free, agency who would you rather, Have 449 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 11: Trey hendrickson Or Alec. Pearce Alex peerce is eighty five 450 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 11: percent right. 451 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 9: Now. 452 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 8: Wow you, KNOW i think someone can continue to get 453 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 8: into is the morning moves. ALONG i know If Cameron 454 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 8: wolf joined us coming up at nine, o'clock he Was 455 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 8: he's been all over kind of The Anthony richardson trade, 456 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 8: ASPECT nfl, network so you can talk a little bit 457 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 8: more nationally about some of this. STUFF i think The 458 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 8: colts honestly believe they can do both To mark's pole. Question, 459 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 8: now if you're sitting here right now playing the cap 460 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 8: game On march, fifth good luck trying to find a 461 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 8: way to get to whatever that contract's going to look 462 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 8: like For, pierce whatever that contract would look like For Trey. 463 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 8: Hendrickson but They colts believe that they can do all of. 464 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 8: It and that's what this next week is going to be. 465 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 8: About how do they create that space and ultimately how 466 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 8: do you Get Daniel jones on a long term, deal 467 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 8: how do you compete on the open market For Alec 468 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 8: pierce and how do you inject some real life into 469 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 8: a dormant pass. 470 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 9: RUSH i like. 471 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: IT i also like the idea Of sauce just Taking 472 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: alec golf and taking him to, dinner taking him around 473 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: and just having that contract in his back pocket and 474 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: at just the right, moment busting. 475 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: It out and going here it, is, man let's do. 476 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 9: This, Right. 477 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 4: Let's Go that is, true all, right coming up with them. 478 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 4: Up but we'll talk more about. This we'll try to 479 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: get some of your feedback. 480 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: HERE i know the company that runs our text machine 481 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 3: right now is having some. Issues so if you want 482 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: to hit each of us or any of us on social, 483 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: Media twitter or anything like, that do, that and that's 484 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 3: probably the best way to get back to us. Today 485 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: in the, meantime we'll take a quick time out and 486 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: we've got more on the other. Side ninety three five 487 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: and one oh seven to five of The. Fan good, morning, 488 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: Everyone welcome into The Fan Morning. Show James, Boyd Kevin, 489 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: Bowen Mark, dyke And i'm Jeff rickord and we all 490 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 3: sit wait and wonder about the fate Of Alec, pierce, 491 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: receiver free. Agent will he be back with The? Cults 492 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: does he go somewhere? Else does it matter that they've 493 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 3: just Transitioned Daniel. Jones we've been talking about it all morning. 494 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: Long we'll talk about it until we find out what 495 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: happens next for The. Cults but we also want to 496 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: get a national perspective, too somebody that is not in 497 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: the middle of it like we are every single day 498 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: and kind of look at this from thirty thousand. Feet 499 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: we welcome In Cameron wolf FROM Nfl network on The Paylesslookers. 500 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 4: Hotline right, Now. 501 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 3: Good thursday morning to, you sir and. Man this is 502 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: for AN nfl. Reporter this is Like christmas time these 503 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: next week or, two isn't? 504 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 9: It good? 505 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 10: Morning yes it. Is, yes it is all the transactions 506 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 10: you can ever imagine in one, week Right so a 507 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 10: lot of fun, storylines, trades, releases everything's, happening and the 508 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 10: build up this week is equally as fun because you're 509 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 10: calling everyone and everyone's given their thoughts if this, happens 510 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 10: if this, happens and so, yeah it's gonna be a Whirlwin. 511 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 5: Again we Have Cameron, WOLF nfl reporter FOR nfl. Network and, 512 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 5: ALSO i must, say probably the sharpest dressed man in the. 513 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 5: Business the man has many suits like Camera Wolf, brother 514 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 5: you be. 515 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 4: Clean so on that, NOTE i. 516 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 5: Do want to pivot a little bit to people who 517 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 5: maybe are not as clean when it comes to decision. 518 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: Making that would be The Indianapolis. 519 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 5: Colts do you think they made the right decision to 520 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 5: Tag Daniel jones Over Alec peerce. 521 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 10: My personal, opinion THOUGH i would have gone the other. 522 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 10: WAY i think there's so much uncertainty coming off an 523 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 10: achille surgery For Daniel. JONES i get. 524 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 9: It quarterback is. 525 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 10: The most important position In Daniel jones was playing really 526 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 10: well for most of the time before the. Injury but 527 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 10: a lot of money to commit to someone and to 528 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 10: commit to your salary cap without necessarily knowing what he's 529 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 10: going to look like In september or if it's even 530 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 10: ready week one In. September so you, KNOW i might 531 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 10: have explored a little bit more of a risky. Strategy you, 532 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 10: know you See kyler or you see some of these 533 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 10: other quarterbacks coming up that you probably can get at the, 534 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 10: minimum and say what could we do for the other 535 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 10: thirty five million? Dollars and you, know sign A Trey, 536 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 10: hendrickson do it for a few other things and take our. 537 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 10: Chances BUT i get. It you, Know Chris, ballard you 538 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 10: Know Shane, stiken you, know whether they admit it or, 539 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 10: not are probably on a little bit of a hot 540 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 10: seat going into twenty twenty. Six and you rather do 541 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 10: that with somebody that you're comfortable, with, uh and that 542 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 10: you played well with rather than. 543 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 9: Unknown. 544 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 8: Again Cameron wolf is with us. Here you can find 545 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 8: HIS coverageoe OVER Nfl Network During combine, week he was 546 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 8: all over The Anthony richardson trade request. Story let's shift 547 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 8: gears there. HERE i know it's been a little back 548 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 8: burner for us this week with The Daniel jones And 549 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 8: Alec pierson, News but, uh at the end of the, 550 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 8: day why do you think it has gotten to this 551 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 8: point where it sounds like there is a mutual, uh 552 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 8: kind of agreeing that it's time for this marriage to 553 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 8: end Between Anthony richardson and The. 554 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 9: Colts. 555 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 10: Yeah, look it hasn't worked, out you, know AND i 556 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 10: think there's blame on both. Sides you, Know Anthony richardson 557 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 10: has not stayed. Healthy he probably hasn't prepped the way 558 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 10: that he needed, to especially early in his career to 559 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 10: be a starting, quarterback and The colts said they knew 560 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 10: they needed to be, patient AND i don't think they 561 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 10: were patient enough for developing their probably the rawst quarterback 562 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 10: that ever won in the top five to come, out 563 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 10: and SO i think it just needs a fresh. Start you, 564 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 10: Know richardson needs to go to a place that has 565 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 10: enough patience in time to let, him you, know be 566 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 10: the fullness of the quarterback he. IS i don't know 567 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 10: if he ever is a competent long term starting, quarterback 568 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 10: BUT i don't think that he would have ever been 569 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 10: that In. Indianapolis, so, yes last week they had a 570 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 10: meeting during the combine and essentially The colts Told richardson's, 571 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 10: team we're moving forward With Daniel, jones and richardson teams, said, 572 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 10: hey best for us to get a fresh. 573 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 9: Start and they agreed with. 574 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 10: That right, now they've been talking trade options throughout the. 575 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 10: Weekend they're going to be some big trade. Market i'd 576 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 10: imagine that you're seeing A day three pick or you, 577 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 10: know a player for players swap type deal. Here BUT 578 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 10: i think they're trying to find that right, compensation that right, 579 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 10: Team AND i do know That indy's working With richardson's 580 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 10: rep to find the right team and not just the right, 581 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 10: package so they're doing right by him in that. Respect and, 582 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 10: yeah we'll. See i'd imagine you hear some news here 583 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 10: in the next week or two on Where richardson's going 584 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 10: to be and they'll just kind of clean that clock 585 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 10: and start a. 586 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 8: New so you envisioned something kind of Long Trey lance 587 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 8: a few years, ago like a like a fourth round. 588 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 9: Pick, yeah, YEAH i. 589 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 10: Definitely it may not even be a fourth it might 590 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 10: be a stick or pick. SWAP i don't think that 591 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 10: the value is extremely. High you also got to think about. 592 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 10: This richardson's making a bit of money in twenty twenty, 593 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 10: sixth so you know a team's got to take a 594 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 10: chance on not only, him but the money as. Well 595 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 10: SO i think you're you're going to look at A 596 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 10: day three pick or a pick swap of some sort for. 597 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 10: Him and, yeah The Trey lance situation is interesting because 598 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 10: from WHAT i, Understand richardson and his team are not 599 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 10: not set on, like, hey we've got to go to 600 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 10: a spot that allows us to be the starter or 601 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 10: compete to be a. Starter that opens up the window 602 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 10: for other, teams you, know a team like The, rams 603 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 10: a team that may have a veteran quarterback but may 604 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 10: need a guy that can develop and potentially become that 605 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 10: long term, option sort of like How Daniel jones did In. 606 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 10: Minnesota SO i think you'll see these teams kind of 607 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 10: explore their main options here in freegency this next, week 608 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 10: and then whoever doesn't maybe get their big fish or 609 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 10: their main priority will probably circle back To Anthony richardson 610 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 10: and make a. 611 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 9: Trade get. 612 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: Done Cameron WILTH Nfl network joining us on the Paylst 613 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: liquors hotline right. Now with all the attention On Daniel 614 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: jones And Alec pierce right, now still a lot of 615 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: needs for The. Colts they've got a lot to do. 616 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: Defensively they've stated they want to get younger and. Faster 617 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: they certainly need help at the edge. Position they're, currently 618 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: like many, teams a little bit over the salary. Cap 619 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: what is likely to happen for this team aside From Alec. 620 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: Pearson does The Alec pierce trickle down to everything? 621 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 10: Else, yeah it's such an interesting scenario because it kind 622 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 10: of reminds here The giant situations some years ago With 623 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 10: Daniel jones and and Say Kawn. Barkley all the talk 624 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 10: was how do you make it? Work how do you 625 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 10: get both? Guys The giants ended up getting both guys 626 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 10: and they send it still ended up, awful and both 627 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 10: guys ended up. Leaving, Eventually coach gets fired because the 628 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 10: roster itself wasn't good enough around. Them and so when 629 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 10: you guys ask me my personal preference of WHAT i 630 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 10: would have, done that's WHY i SAID i might not 631 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 10: HAVE i might have taken a chance With Daniel jones 632 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 10: BECAUSE i don't know if the roster is currently constructed 633 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 10: is good enough even bringing Both Daniel jones And Alex 634 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 10: pearce back to be able to compete at the level 635 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 10: they need to compete. 636 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 9: At so they're gonna have to be. 637 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 10: Creative you, KNOW i would have loved to see them 638 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 10: being The Trey hendrickson, market but if they're going to 639 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 10: go For Alex pearce And Daniel, jones that's not. 640 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 9: Going to be. 641 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 10: Feasible so they're gonna have to get creative and figure 642 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 10: out how do you get this defense to position where 643 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 10: we can compete since we're heavily invested in this offensive. 644 00:30:54,600 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 5: Spire cameron looking at The Daniel jones that you and 645 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 5: you talk about how you probably would have Tagged Alec 646 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: pierce when it comes To, Daniel do you think there's 647 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 5: real threat from another team to sign, him because in 648 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 5: my mind that is probably why The colts pen the 649 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: transition tag on, him which still allows other teams to 650 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 5: bid on. 651 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: Him for. 652 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 10: Sure for, SURE i think there certainly would be interested 653 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 10: at a certain price. POINT i think that quarterback is 654 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 10: such an important position that it's one of the tough 655 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 10: to be risky about. It and it's easy for me 656 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 10: to say out here on my couch or out walking 657 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 10: my dog right, now to. 658 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 9: Say, hey, yeah just roll the. 659 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 10: Dice you, know nobody's going to sign a Post Achilles 660 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 10: Daniel jones the thirty five plus million. Dollars maybe somebody 661 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 10: could have JUST i just based on the fact that 662 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 10: his track record hadn't been would it had, been and 663 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 10: we got maybe six to eight games on, HIM i 664 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 10: don't know that he's more desirable than A malink willis 665 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 10: on the market given what we've, seen and so because of, 666 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 10: THAT i would have taken the. CHANCE i Know minnesota 667 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 10: certainly had some in. Him now they don't have a 668 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 10: lot of money, either and they had him in the 669 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 10: building and let him. Go did they go from, hey 670 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 10: we don't want to pay him ten million dollars to 671 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 10: now we're willing to pay him a thirty five million 672 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 10: plus deal with some. GUARANTEES i don't know that's the case. 673 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 10: Either so you, know The, jets maybe they're the other 674 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 10: team in the mix, There but, again that's a team 675 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 10: THAT i don't think they're a quarterback. Away miami doesn't 676 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 10: have the. MONEY i JUST i didn't see a lot 677 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 10: of options Where i'm Saying i've got To i'm forced 678 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 10: to use the tag in this. Way but they know 679 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 10: a lot and maybe they had some some insight on 680 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 10: a team that might have might have spoiled their plan 681 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 10: if they if they rolled. 682 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 4: Today, cavin thanks for your time this. 683 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: Morning we appreciate that we will see you at some 684 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: point In india again. Soon but we'll watch party ON 685 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: nfl network in the. 686 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 9: Meantime all, right sounds. 687 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 10: Good appreciate. 688 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 9: You. Cooch you got your Cameraon wolf joining. 689 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: Us it's wasted on radio being the best dressed man in, 690 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 3: television isn't? 691 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: It the man be. 692 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 5: SHARE i, mean that's to use my father's, terms be, 693 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 5: sharp because he is always pretty. 694 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 4: Dapperble BUT i think he made some good points. 695 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 5: THERE i think he's leaning more towards your, Side, kevin 696 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 5: when it comes to who you would have. Tagged but 697 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 5: again we go back to is there any position in 698 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 5: sports that is so differently valued than quarterback in? Football, because, 699 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 5: man if this were even like a pitcher in, baseball 700 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 5: you're not pitching every. Night you know THE, nba your 701 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 5: best player can be any position on the. Floor so, 702 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 5: boy it pays to be a, quarterback and it pays 703 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 5: to be a quarterback who had half a good. SEASON 704 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 5: i go back to, this And i've been asking myself this. 705 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 4: Question you, all. 706 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 5: How many games would have been too little for The 707 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 5: colts to commit to? Him if he let's say he, 708 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 5: okay they were eight and, Two i'll give him those ten. 709 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 5: Games what number would have been too little to say 710 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 5: we believe in this? Guy ten games is not a, lot, 711 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 5: right chose. 712 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 8: You the desperation of The colts in their quarterback sits. 713 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 5: Absolutely and the desperation to not start to cycle over, 714 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 5: Again i'll what camera was talking about with Chasing Kyler 715 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 5: murray or someone else on the. 716 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 8: Market and, again a lot of this roots back to, 717 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 8: him you don't have your first round pick for this year. 718 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 8: NEXT i still am trying to wrap my mind around 719 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 8: did you not see me in The hamm And bear's 720 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 8: shirt On? Friday in terms of comparing me To Cameron, Wolf, 721 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 8: well you. 722 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 4: Definitely turned some heads, though started early with the SHIRT. 723 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 5: Kb unless we're coming in with like suits and stuff, 724 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 5: tomorrow you let me. 725 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 4: KNOW i think that he has his. 726 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: Beat BUT i also want to remind people That kevin 727 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: largely gets his wardrobe in parking lots of fast food 728 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: restaurants as. 729 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 8: Well what year do you think the sweatshirt was made 730 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,479 Speaker 8: That i'm rocking? 731 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 4: Today i'm gonna go nineteen ninety. FOUR i might take 732 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 4: the over on. 733 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 9: That i'll take two thousand and. 734 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 8: Two oh, no it's got to be older than, THAT i. 735 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 8: Think look at, THIS i mean it looks like it 736 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 8: looks like i'mre in shoulder pads here on the old. 737 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 8: Shoulders close thing lou Holts on. 738 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 4: That passed down has got to be as. 739 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 8: Got to be A ryan bow and hand. 740 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 9: Me, okay it. 741 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 11: Shows me the state of my wardrobe BECAUSE i wore 742 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 11: a polo the other day when we went to like 743 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 11: an event for like my daughter's, teacher and she's, like, 744 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 11: well you dressed up so fancy for, him like, fancy, 745 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 11: Good lord must be a. 746 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 5: SLOB i still have to YouTube how to tie a 747 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 5: tie WHENEVER i have to wear. 748 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 8: One SAME i do feel Like maddie kind of looks 749 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 8: at me, like, oh, yeah you do work in, radio 750 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 8: don't you with how do you? 751 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 4: Dress the? 752 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 9: Times? 753 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 4: Man which? WAY i don't hate to. PLAY i hate the. 754 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 8: Game, yeah that that's all. Right we've had PEOPLE i 755 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 8: don't know if it's a huge majority Of, mark will 756 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 8: you bring up those poll results? AGAIN i know we 757 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 8: did an Earlier jeff asked a Question Alec pearce Or Trey. 758 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 4: Hendrickson but you. 759 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 8: Know there are some people that are, like. 760 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 4: Are we acting Like Alec? 761 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 8: Pearce Is Marvin? Harrison are reacting like he's? Whatever the 762 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 8: second coming of you, know throw your name in. HERE 763 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 8: i Guess Kay adams throughout the Name Calvin johnson at 764 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 8: one point during the interview, yesterday which certainly was something did. 765 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 5: My boys say if the math says it that was 766 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 5: the most? AGENT i, was, yeah in your. 767 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 8: Ear BUT i guess What i'm getting at, is you, 768 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 8: know if you look at recent, drafts there are a 769 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 8: lot of white outs that are now. Drafted it's a 770 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 8: position that continues to be accentuated at the college. Level 771 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 8: is there a ceiling For Alec? Pierce are we talking 772 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 8: about him in a light that we shouldn't talk about. 773 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 3: Him we saw a guy, perform certainly at a high, 774 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: level get getting loose. Downfield but What i've seen over 775 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 3: the last year season and a, Half, james. 776 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 9: If i'm, wrong, Dummy i'm. 777 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 3: Wrong his ability to fight and win fifty to fifty 778 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 3: balls and his growing ability to be a guy that 779 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 3: can get a twelve yard route down and make a key. 780 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 3: Catch i've seen that grow more than. 781 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 4: Anything. 782 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 5: Yeah but to give a defensive answer For, KEVIN i 783 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 5: would say we probably are Overshooting. Alec but that is 784 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 5: what happens with every good player that reaches free agency 785 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 5: and perhaps isn't a great. Player AND i think that 786 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 5: he has a, great like one great unique skill, set 787 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 5: which is the downfield. Stuff, now you can obviously get 788 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 5: better and To jeff's, point expand his. Game but DO 789 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 5: i Think Alex pierce is going to be a top 790 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 5: five receiver in this? 791 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 4: League? No but that's not a knock on. 792 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 5: Him is just the fact that, again every time a 793 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 5: good player reaches free, agency another team will have to 794 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 5: overpay to get, him because in a normal, World Alec 795 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 5: pierce doesn't reach free. 796 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 4: Agency so there you have. 797 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 3: IT i just want to point out one more time 798 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: and again we talked about, statistics, right he has one 799 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty seven career receptions and he's still averaging 800 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 3: almost nineteen yards to. 801 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 9: Catch that's not a small sample, Size. Kevin. No. 802 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 8: No and you know the fact that he's led the 803 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 8: league each of the last two, YEARS i think is 804 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 8: also very. Noteworthy it wasn't just a one year one 805 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 8: Der and, again to use the baseball, analogy he is 806 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 8: a home run, hitter AND i think this, year this past, 807 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 8: year he showed a little bit more single and double 808 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 8: to his. Game you, know one of the bigger plays 809 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 8: of the, season If Jason myers doesn't hit a sixty 810 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 8: some yard field, goal would have been the back shoulder 811 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 8: throw From Philip rivers To Alec pierce late in That seattle. 812 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 8: Game you know what was that third and? Seven not 813 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 8: a home run hitter by any, means but just a 814 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 8: big time conversion when The colts desperately needed a la 815 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 8: Little Charlie becker in The National Title game when For 816 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 8: Nando menoza needed some big time throws There, mark what 817 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 8: is the result of that, Poll, well it's. 818 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 11: Not as big a runaway as it was For Alec, 819 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 11: pearce but it is still pretty much a clear. Winner 820 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 11: Alec pierce seventy seven point, Six Trey hendrickson twenty two point. 821 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 8: Four and, AGAIN i, think in an ideal, world albeit 822 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 8: that world is hard to, imagine On march, fifth The 823 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 8: colts would have both of those. Guys now you, know 824 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 8: what does that look like over the next. Week oh, 825 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 8: boy that's a lot of decision making that The colts 826 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 8: have not really done in past. History and the other, 827 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 8: thing you, Know i've probably done this a lot With, 828 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 8: Pierce but, again to, me he just possesses a very unique. 829 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 8: Trade like people are, like, oh just come back in 830 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 8: the draft and draft a white. Out these types of 831 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 8: whiteouts don't. Exist it's why you've HAD nfl teams offer 832 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 8: The colts in past years high draft picks For Alec 833 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 8: pierce because he is a home run hitter in a 834 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 8: league where. 835 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 4: Home run hitting does not really. 836 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 8: Exist it's very hard to consistently create those. Plays and 837 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 8: he's done. It with bad quarterback play for now multiple, 838 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 8: seasons AND i think that's what's, Coveted and, yeah you 839 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 8: go draft Whatever malchi fields on noted. Day, yeah that 840 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 8: is very wishful thinking that that dude's gonna walk in 841 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 8: THE nfl and all of a sudden give you What 842 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 8: pierce gives. You AND i just don't think this offense 843 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 8: clicks anywhere near like you did the first two months 844 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 8: of the season Without PIERCE a creating the big plays 845 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 8: AND b making defensive cour coordinators sleep poorly in games 846 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 8: leading up to The. Colts do we keep a safety 847 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 8: over the? Top how do we Handle Alec? Pierce are 848 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 8: you going to trust? Him trust a corner in man? Coverage, 849 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 8: now let's think About Jonathan. Taylor, now let's think About Tyler. 850 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 8: Warren all of that is necessary for The colts to 851 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 8: get back to what they were the first two months 852 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 8: of the. 853 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 3: Season james remind, us what are The colts' best options 854 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 3: right now of getting back under the cap and having 855 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 3: a little bit of room to. 856 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 5: Maneuver so the easiest one in the first, STEP i 857 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 5: think will be to get a multi year deal done 858 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 5: With Daniel, jones because right now his thirty eight million 859 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 5: dollars fully counts against the cap for this, season so 860 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 5: you want to be able to spread that out over multiple, 861 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 5: years which is why a long term contract is. Essential 862 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 5: and then after that you're looking at the first guy 863 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 5: on the, list in my, Opinion Michael Pipin. Junior you 864 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 5: could release him and create twenty four million dollars in cap. 865 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 5: Space you could also try to trade, him you could 866 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 5: restructure him something along those, lines so similar themes With Zaire, 867 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 5: Franklin Kenny moore the. 868 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 4: Second and then you. 869 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 5: Also want to look at perhaps restructuring and extending some 870 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 5: of your better players Like Quentin nelson for. Example he 871 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 5: ain't going, anywhere so give him a, raise extend, him 872 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 5: and then spread the money. 873 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 4: Out that, way you are able to get under the. 874 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 5: Cap and not only, that you're able to Give Alec 875 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 5: pierce a real market value offer because it will be. 876 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 3: Expensive, well there's gonna be a lot of maneuvering that's 877 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 3: going to have to be done by the. 878 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 8: Indiety so, yeah And i'll just add one more, thing you, 879 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 8: know this one here From. Eric, yeah he worries a 880 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 8: little bit more about the. VOLUME i Like, pierce but 881 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 8: you know, questions you, know the. Volume can he get 882 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 8: to be an eighty ninety catch. GUY i get that's 883 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,479 Speaker 8: a part when you become whatever the thirty million dollars 884 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 8: wide out he's likely to. BECOME i do think he 885 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 8: can get to be in a bigger catch guy than 886 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 8: he has. Been, again he's not really hasn't been asked 887 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,919 Speaker 8: to do. It it's not like he's dropping a bunch 888 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 8: of balls that is not allowing him catch this. Many 889 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 8: it's just in the role of this Offense Taylor Warren pittman, 890 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 8: downs he's not asked to do that as. MUCH i 891 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 8: do think he can get. There and, AGAIN i just 892 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 8: don't fret over that as. Much how many dudes how 893 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 8: many Catches Michael Pittman junior have this? 894 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 3: Season we'll go back and look that, up BUT i 895 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 3: want to say seventy? 896 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 8: Five, YEAH o, god let's just say let's call it eighty. 897 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 8: Five how many guys in THE nfl do you think 898 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 8: caught eighty five balls this past? 899 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 3: Year eight? 900 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 8: NINE i would probably argue a little bit more of. 901 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 8: That let's call it ten or. Fifteen how many dudes 902 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 8: averaged twenty something yards per catch Like alex chirst. One that, 903 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 8: again what is easier to replace what is easier to, 904 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 8: find not to, mention we're talking about a dude In 905 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 8: pierce who's what three or four years younger Than Michael 906 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 8: pittman as. 907 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 4: Well, yeah as crazy as it. 908 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,959 Speaker 5: Sounds so last, Season Michael Pittman junior head eighty, RECEPTIONS 909 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 5: alec had eighty four, targets so certainly wants a bigger 910 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 5: role going into twenty twenty. Six and, honestly that bigger 911 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 5: role might come at the, expense the literal expense Of 912 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 5: Michael Pittman. 913 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 3: Jr, yeah only seventeen receivers had eighty catches or more 914 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 3: and only nine had ninety or. 915 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 8: More so there you, Go james said the number, there seventeen, 916 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 8: dudes fifteen dudes whatever caught as many balls As. Pittman 917 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 8: and part of that Is pittman's durability helps him in that, 918 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 8: area which again is something that you, Know i'm more 919 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 8: of in the restructure Of Michael Pittman junior than the outright. 920 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 8: Cut but oh, boy we got to lock in because 921 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 8: this is. Uh in the next seven to eight, days 922 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 8: we're about to get a whole lot more in The 923 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 8: colts news. Front there's it has to happen if they're 924 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 8: going to do anything of note here this Offse. 925 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 5: By the, way did you mention you said eighty. Catches, 926 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 5: yeah there's an Eighty mitchell joke in there. 927 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 3: SOMEWHERE i know there was myself for that. 928 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 4: Man but you still think there's gonna come. 929 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 3: Day there's gonna be a day where the gonna miss. 930 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 4: Him i'm telling, You i'm kiss your ass as my. 931 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 8: Boss there was no kissing of any ass right there 932 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,479 Speaker 8: By James. 933 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 4: Warden, look, man this is a fair. 934 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 3: Game I'm I'M i STILL i believe in that young man's. 935 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 3: Talent it's Got he's got as much talent as almost. 936 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 3: Anybody he's just got to figure it. 937 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 8: Out it was easy to Spot jeff's son last night 938 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 8: inside Of Hinklefield. House not Many Ady Mitchell jets, jerseys 939 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 8: but his son Was rock signed as. 940 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 3: Well, newsflash my oldest has never heard of a D 941 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 3: mitchell and is probably. 942 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 8: Calls Him ada AND i, right, yeah, yeah that's what it. 943 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 9: Is. 944 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 4: Right, No, No but here's my question we were talking. 945 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 3: About BECAUSE i was looking at the number of catches 946 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 3: guys head and this list number two on that, list 947 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 3: and he was almost the entire offense last. Year But trey, 948 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 3: McBride the tight end for The, cardinals had one hundred 949 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 3: and twenty six. Receptions, NOW i don't, think you, know 950 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 3: by no means DO i think That Tyler warren is 951 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 3: going to approach anything near. 952 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 4: That but he needs to. 953 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 3: Be a bigger central part of this offense moving, forward 954 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 3: does he? 955 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 8: Not, YEAH i think a little little rookie. Wall and 956 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 8: as we pointed, OUT i think the lack of mobility 957 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 8: and movement From Daniel jones in the second half of 958 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 8: the season really hurt The Tyler. 959 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 3: Warren PACER's played last night against The Los Angeles, clippers 960 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 3: first time since the trade that Sent Benedict matherin over 961 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 3: there and Brought Viza zubats back and a couple of 962 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 3: other players involved in. That and last Night Bennedict mathern 963 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 3: made his mark against The pacers as his new team 964 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 3: got the. Win The clippers beating The pacers last. Night 965 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 3: and here to tell us a little bit more about 966 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 3: that and what the rest of the season looks like 967 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,959 Speaker 3: for The. Pacers our Man Scott agnes from the Field House, 968 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 3: files who's up late last night and up early this 969 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 3: morning to talk about. It he joins us on the 970 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 3: payless lickers hot. Line, scott you're surprised That Benedict matherin 971 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 3: did his thing last? 972 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 9: Night, no no, way are? You? No no? 973 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 6: Way, yeah this is a, game Especially, ben who was 974 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 6: as competitive as they come to face your former. 975 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 9: Team it's an emotional. 976 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 6: One it's an abrupt change for these guys in the 977 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 6: middle of the season versus you, know maybe it was 978 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 6: the off, seat or maybe he had wind of it, 979 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 6: coming well. 980 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,240 Speaker 9: Not UNTIL i think a day or two before it happened. 981 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 6: Here and so, no he wanted to go out and 982 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 6: show his former team what they're missing out on type, 983 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 6: thing AND i thought he did kind of exactly, That 984 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 6: and there was one in particular path that really was. 985 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 6: STRIKING i was, like we wouldn't have seen that in 986 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 6: year one or year two Of, Matherin and so that's 987 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 6: that kind of represented some of the progress that we 988 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 6: saw during this time In. 989 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 8: Indy, Scott twenty games To go for The, Pacers Avitza 990 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 8: Zoo bots plays in how many ooh six? MAN i 991 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 8: was gonna set the over under of five and a. Half, 992 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 8: goh that's, Scary. Scott did you ever buy The zoo 993 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 8: Book back in the day The zoo. 994 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 9: Book, huh remind me what's? 995 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 4: That if you don't know what it, is you're you're. 996 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 8: OKAY i, mean, man you must have not gotten your 997 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 8: haircut of great clips back in the. DAY i mean 998 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 8: we're Talking coupon's goalre. GO I i can still Picture 999 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 8: Ryan bowen, having you, know one for a. Cleaner you 1000 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 8: wear a dress shirt to work and then, he you, 1001 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 8: know take out the Little january hoop on and you, 1002 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 8: know get his shirt whatever pruss or steamed or. 1003 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 6: SOMETHING i was thinking you were talking about for, kids 1004 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 6: LIKE a is for, THIS b is for the you. 1005 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 4: Know you, know zoo animal. Book got? 1006 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 2: It? 1007 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 8: Got, yeah that's a Great. YEAH i can clearly see 1008 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 8: why you thought. That but neither here nor. THERE i 1009 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 8: do want to shift gears just to where we're at 1010 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 8: from a W nba, STANDPOINT i Think Caitlin clark leaves 1011 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 8: somewhat soon For. Tmusa so, a are we able to 1012 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 8: view any of this as she gets on the floor 1013 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 8: for a five on five period for the first time 1014 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 8: in quite a few. 1015 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 6: Months, yeah it'll be an exciting time coming. 1016 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 9: Up it'll be this. 1017 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 6: Weekend she's scheduled to talk with media On saturday. 1018 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 9: Morning so is A Leah, boston who will be down 1019 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,720 Speaker 9: there as, Well and. 1020 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 6: Yeah this this is a good stretch for her because 1021 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 6: she has not played true, basketball all competitive outside of 1022 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 6: practice since Mid july. 1023 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 9: Before The All star, break and So i'm. 1024 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 6: My understanding is that it'll be available for STREAMING uh 1025 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 6: sites that were not necessarily familiar with at least the men's, 1026 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 6: Were so. 1027 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 4: It sounds like that available. 1028 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 9: To watch. 1029 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 6: Games it might break the streaming record quite frankly if 1030 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 6: we Get fever fans And caitlin fans on there to 1031 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 6: check this. 1032 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 9: Out but training camp begins On. 1033 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 5: SATURDAY i do want to follow up to what you 1034 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 5: were talking about With caitlin And aliyah both heading down, 1035 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 5: there AND i guess pivot away from my nefarious internet 1036 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 5: browsing history when it comes to finding the sports ON? 1037 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 4: Tv what ON? 1038 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 5: Tv but, nevertheless is A Leah boston do we have an? 1039 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 5: Update is she going to be? Playing BECAUSE i do 1040 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 5: know that she FINISHED i believe her unrivaled season with 1041 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 5: a lower extremity. 1042 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 6: Injury you're, right and it felt like hockey the way Unrival. 1043 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 9: We still well don't completely know. 1044 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 6: What aery McDonald's injury was OF, noe but it was 1045 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 6: clearly enough to keep her out basically all of the 1046 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 6: unrivaled season stuff for in that LIKE i think it 1047 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 6: was the first, game might have been. 1048 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 9: The second game of the. 1049 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 6: Season, No i've been efforting trying to get something more 1050 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 6: nailed down, There, james because is it something of great. 1051 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 6: Concern it's got to be a little, bit, right because 1052 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 6: you're not going to sit out championship type. Games and 1053 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 6: so she missed the semi finals and last night's championship 1054 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 6: game with six hundred thousand dollars on the line to be. 1055 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 9: Split amongst your. 1056 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 6: Team she was, around she was there In brooklyn for 1057 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 6: the semi, finals so she was. Traveling did not see 1058 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 6: a foot in a boot or anything like, That but 1059 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 6: we do not know more just. 1060 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 3: Yet Scott agnes joining us on The Payless liquors, hotline 1061 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 3: and we've talked a little bit about zoobots and what 1062 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,280 Speaker 3: we see from. There but it's a seven game losing 1063 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 3: streak and they got some good teams coming. UP i 1064 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 3: know the Play sacramento at the end of this road, 1065 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 3: trip but, like how many wins are left on this 1066 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 3: schedule the rest the? 1067 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 6: Year, ooh another over under, Here let's take a stab 1068 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 6: AT i, mean, yeah you basically have. TWENTY i mean 1069 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 6: you're probably looking at. Four without looking at the, opponents 1070 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 6: you're probably at. 1071 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 9: Four maybe what do you THINK i might take the 1072 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 9: under on that? 1073 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 2: One, yeah the real, well it's all the thing that's 1074 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 2: been so challenging lately has just been the atrocious defense 1075 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 2: and then not getting stops and then. 1076 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 9: They turn it. 1077 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 6: Over there's a point in the middle of the second 1078 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 6: quarter where last night The clippers had zero turnovers and 1079 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 6: The pacers HAD i think eight If. 1080 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 9: I'm remembering, Correctly and so that's just completely changed. 1081 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 6: It you got all these new lineups in different things 1082 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 6: in the middle two. 1083 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 9: Quarters is what's really bothering. 1084 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 6: Them and so, YEAH i mean you're probably right going 1085 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 6: back To kb's, saying it's probably three and. 1086 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 9: A half wins over this final stretch if, that man oh. 1087 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 6: Man and if you look by the way at the 1088 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 6: bottom of The Eastern, conference the bottom five, TEAMS i, 1089 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 6: mean it's just lost lost seven, game, loss nine, game 1090 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 6: losing straight LIKE i think it adds up. 1091 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 9: To twenty six the last TIME i. Counted so you. 1092 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 6: Have several teams all in the same boat looking for 1093 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 6: that top draft. 1094 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 3: Pick all, Right, buddy go get a nap. AGAIN i 1095 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 3: know you stayed up. Late you got some late ones coming. 1096 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 3: Up we appreciate you spending time with us, Today Bud, 1097 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:19,879 Speaker 3: yep you got. 1098 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 10: It. 1099 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 9: Lakers by the, way we'll be. 1100 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 6: On the back to back, tomorrow so that's something to 1101 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 6: note for that. 1102 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 9: Matchup all, right we'll see About lebron