1 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: So let's call it a day of trying a whole 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: bunch of new stuff, because it's very rare that when 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: we say, hey, let's try some bourbon, and we say now, 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: let's try something else, we end up with an American 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: single malt whiskey. 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: This may be a first maybe maybe t drink smoke 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: com Tony Kats. 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: That's America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy, And this comes 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: from the people at Beam. 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: This is the Claremont. 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: Steep Steep, the Claremont Steep American whiskey. This is an 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: American single malt whiskey that has been aged five years. 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: And Fingers Billoyd, what does this come in at? What 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: does this come in at? 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: A proof wise forty seven percent alcohol by volume, so 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: ninety four. 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: No applause from Fingers. 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't applaud for anything that is lower than 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: one one hundred proof right there. He needs to be 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: one hundred proof or above. It was interesting. Saw it 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: in a local liquor store and said, I've never seen it, 22 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: I've never tried it. 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: Perfect for the show. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: So in all these situations, remember that all bourbons are whiskeys, 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: but not all whiskeys or bourbons. Bourbon is something specific, right, 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: fifty one percent corn. It has to do with the 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: proof going in the barrel, going out of the barrel, 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: time in the barrel. All these things play into what 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: is a bourbon specific rules and specific laws which we 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: have listed in our book Let's Go Bourbon, available at 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: Amazon dot com and also our book Let's Go Barbecue 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: available Let's Go Bbq. It's available at Amazon dot com 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: as well. And I said, I wonder if anybody's tried 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: this before, and a lot of people have tried this 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: before this came out. I think in twenty twenty three 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: is when this came out. I had not heard of it. 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: It's aged five years, and I'm like, I want to 38 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: I want to play around. 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: I want to see what this is. 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: It was a really good write up over there at 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: Bourbonobsessed dot com. So this is aged in new oak 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: barrels that have that have been very lightly toasted. So 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: if you think of beam, beam is like a char 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: four for most of their bourbons, which means fire hitting 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: the barrel. Right, it has to come a bourbon has 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: to be utilized in a first use charred oak barrel. 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: This is a one. 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: It's a very very light bit of flame that has 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: touched the wood. Now, the color of this that's pretty. 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: That is orange. It's like an orange kind of honey 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: going on in that coloring. Maybe a smattering of some 52 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: reds in there, maybe a smattering, but it's it's I 53 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: think it's a very pretty color, rich looking color as well. 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: I would not disagree with you at all, that knows. 55 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I again have a little bit of a cold 56 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: that is sweet and that also has a bit of 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: an alcohol that is an ethanol. 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it does. Yeaph boy, that is also a 59 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: little bit of I don't know, no, no. 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: That that MALTI because it is a malt, it does 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: have it almost is like a like a like a 62 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: chocolate but it's not a chocolate flavor. But that's kind 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: of the kind of the vibe that that that it 64 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: gives off right there. 65 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: Oh, it's rich, it's a little bitter. This is messing 66 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: with me. I mean, there is I don't want to say, 67 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: an overwhelming bit of sweet, but it is very sweet. 68 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: Like you said, there is that ethanol, but then there's 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: something else going on there that I just I can't 70 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: put my finger on. I think the malt is exactly it. 71 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: So it's playing in a couple different directions because I'm 72 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: even getting it. 73 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: It's playing in. 74 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: A bit of this weird kind of almost faint chocolate 75 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: kind of thing. It's playing in a weird kind of 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: coffee thing. It's playing in a thickness, which is a 77 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: stupid thing to think of with your nose, but it 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: can invoke memories and thoughts and it just becomes this 79 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: very rich thing in your nose, and that that it's it's, 80 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: it's I want to say, it's a touch. 81 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: Bitder in the finish on the nose, which is a 82 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: weird way to say it, and that like it. It's 83 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: a bit beguiling. 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: So I think that what it's giving off are these thicker, 85 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: richer flavors that are kind of getting lost as the 86 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: bitterer comes in. 87 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: It's that malt. You're right, it's just taking a while 88 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: for it to to register. 89 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: The ethanol, man, yeah, is really hitting me. So you're 90 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: trying to find these flavors and then the ethanol hit 91 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: you in the in the you know, through the sinuss 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my gosh, that's that's intense. 93 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I'm not complaining, it's just it is what 94 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: it is. No, it is what it is, and uh, 95 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: I want to know what it is. Are you ready, Tony? 96 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: I've been ready for this all day. 97 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: Fingers will boy is gonna take a sip and do 98 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: what is known as the Kentucky chew, moving the juice 99 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: around the palate, get a feel for the flavors. I'm 100 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: a believer in the two SIPs methodology. The first sip 101 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: to set the taste buds, the second sip to really 102 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: get an idea of where you are with the bourbon. 103 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: This is the Claremont steep c l e r m 104 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: o n T steep st e e P from the 105 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: people at Beam. 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: Where are you with this? Uh? There's oak there. There 107 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: is a nice little bit of spice. First of all, 108 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: I mean that ethanol that you were talking about there. 109 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: It does not translate to the palate. This is ridiculously smooth. 110 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: It's not nearly for me as sweet on the palette 111 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: is it is the nose. There's some of that traditional 112 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: like a little bit of caramel there. This is throwing me, Tony, 113 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: I freely admit I it's difficult for me to come 114 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: up with notes on this. Really. Yeah, that that oak 115 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: is there there's a sweetness that I can't put my 116 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: finger on. You talked me into the malt. On the nose, 117 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: I see where you're coming from there, But on the palate, 118 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 2: I could just tell you it's it's wonderful. I'm really 119 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: enjoying it. But I just wish I listen. I'm a 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: bourbon fan. I never claimed to be like an expert. 121 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: So oh we we we know. I saw that. I 122 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: saw that little note you gave it. Thanks for calling 123 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: me number one. All right, here I go. I'm going in. 124 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: He's going in, ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing what 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: we like to call the sagon I swish. Oh that's warm. 126 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: Oh that's fruity. What all right, I'm gonna do another 127 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: thing good for you. He's going in once again, ladies 128 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: and gentlemen. He's doing what we like to call the 129 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: Chattanooga chomp. That's so nice. Oh that is nice. 130 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: That is that is a bit of sweet and not 131 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: overly sweet. There's a bit of fruit thing going on there, 132 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: but it can't put your finger what fruit it is? 133 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: Can you? What is that is that? Toffee? Is that 134 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: what that is? Oh? Wow, there's a little bit of 135 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: honey going on for sure? What's that fruit? Um? 136 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll cheat and I'll go back to the guys 137 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: from Bourbonobsessed dot com. 138 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: H what do they say? Dried apricot and a touch 139 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: of pair? Okay, I listen, guys. I don't know you, 140 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: but hot damn on the pear the pair. Yeah, I 141 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: was gonna say, I'm not a big apricot guy, but 142 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: when you throw a pair out there was like, Okay, 143 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: these are things I'm not expecting. 144 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Oh, it is warm, it is full chest, 145 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: it is full chest expanding heat. Well that's unique. Yeah, 146 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: a little and and and and by the way, the 147 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: idea of the malt, and and and and getting some 148 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: grain in there, a little almost like a readiness which 149 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: can add to the sweet Claremont step. Oh is this 150 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: in the liquor cabinet. We're gonna find out. 151 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: Keep it here. 152 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: So there you are, you're you're you're heading into uh 153 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: you're one of your favorite spots. You're on vacation, you're 154 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: on a business trip, wherever it is you are, and 155 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: you're at the airport and the uber driver comes to 156 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: you and uh, yeah, you got the luggage into the 157 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: back and you sit down and uh, all right, you're 158 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: the right person, the right uber, everything else. 159 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: And then what happens? What are the rules on whether 160 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 2: or not you have to talk to your Uber driver? 161 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: It's eat, drink, smoke. 162 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. 163 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: Fingers, myloy. 164 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: The idea of talking to another human being has ruined 165 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: your fingers. Of course, have we met? I figured as much. 166 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: The New York Post had the story, and they're trying 167 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: to answer the question of whether or not it is 168 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: rude not to talk to your Uber driver. So they 169 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: went to who you go to in these kinds of situations, 170 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: an etiquette coach. They went to an etiquette coach, and 171 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: that etiquette coach's name Alec Baldwin. 172 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: Nice. Nice, that's a good pull. Why because Chevy Chase 173 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: was unavailable? That's not true, he was available. 174 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: Ah, but. 175 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: Do we really Has it come to the point in 176 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: America where we have to turn to an etiquette expert 177 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: just to find out if it's rude to have to 178 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: talk to your uber driver or not? Well, we could 179 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: turn to you. Is it rude not to talk to 180 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: your Uber driver? No, it's not rude at all. How 181 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: Why why do you have to carry on a conversation. 182 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: Be polite, respect the driver's time, respect the driver's car. 183 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: But I don't want to get into a car hot 184 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: enough for you, eh, And you're involved in the conversation 185 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: about the weather and all that stuff. Nine times out 186 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: of ten the driver doesn't want to talk to you, right, 187 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 2: see A ten out of ten you don't want to 188 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: talk to I. See, this is where I think you're wrong. 189 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: Oh boy, So one of the problems with Uber drivers. 190 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm guaranteeing I'm never gonna get picked up for a 191 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: ride again. 192 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: This is why I use lyft. 193 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: One of the problems with all these drivers is that 194 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say all them. That's that's wrong some of 195 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: these drivers is they think that once you're in the vehicle, 196 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: you're an audience. Oh and I'm not interested in hearing 197 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: the story. Sometimes conversations happen, and they're quite interesting. My 198 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: Uber driver, when I was in Florida, suggested that if 199 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: we want to try a good rum, we try Florida Kanya. 200 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: Which is out of Nicaragua, and he's from Nicaragua. 201 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: It's the finest flower of the of the cane, right, 202 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: because it's sugarcane, and the finest rum there is Florida Kanye. 203 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: I said, okay, all right, I'll try some Florida Kanye. 204 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, thank you so very much. But in 205 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: the main, I don't actually want to have a conversation, 206 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: and I find it wrong and rude when the uber 207 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: driver thinks that I am there for their entertainment. 208 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: I have an audience. 209 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: Finally someone will listen to me, as opposed to my wife, 210 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: or if it's a female Uber driver, as opposed to 211 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: every guy who left in the middle of the night 212 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: without saying goodbye, Wow, Oh, I'm sorry honestly, now a 213 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: problem on each rigg smoke. I yeah, I don't want to. 214 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: Now they suggest that one of the things you do 215 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: is say hi, how are you? Just adds up? I've 216 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: got a few things to finish on my phone, but 217 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: thank you. Hello, it's been a long day. I'm gonna 218 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: take a quiet ride if that's okay, or hey, I'm 219 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: on a call or an email sprint, so I'll be 220 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: a bit heads down for this trip. 221 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: And then they ever popular, could you not? Could you? 222 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: Could you just stop with the words. So while we 223 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: have been in this discussion, I wanted to pull up 224 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: I use Lyft too, I don't use Uber as much. 225 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: I wanted to pull up my rating as a rider. 226 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: Have you have you checked your rating recently? I'll check 227 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: my rating right now. I have ninety four rides on 228 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: Lift eleven point three years, according to the fine folks 229 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: at Lift. Okay, perfect five star rating. How do I 230 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: go to you? Uh? Huh? How do I? How do 231 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: I check where my my rating is? You go to 232 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: settings and you tap your name on Lift and then 233 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: your profile will come up and it will say how 234 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: many rides and what your what you. 235 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: I've had fifty two rides. I have been there nine 236 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: and a half years. I could I use Uber more? 237 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: My rating is a four point. 238 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: Eight four point eight A h five? Yeah, you're you 239 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: know why? Because I don't talk, That's why. Yeah, But 240 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what gave me a four point eight? 241 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: Like does it? Does it tell you? I also don't care. Listen, 242 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: four point eight that's pretty good. You're on the honor roll, right? 243 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: But okay, I see what I am now on Uber. 244 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: It's non I'm a four point nine to four on Uber. 245 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: I looked that up too, but I haven't been on 246 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: Uber uh. In years, I switched to Lyft, and that's 247 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: not an endorsement of lift you use well four point 248 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: nine three? Are you a four point nine two four 249 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: point nine four? 250 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: Are you? 251 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: Yes? That's crap? You know why? Because I don't talk? 252 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: No, I actually I wouldn't have an understanding of why 253 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: I would be a four point nine three short weaight 254 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: time times, courtesy, safety, but I'm always courteous. I'm always 255 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't talk, but I'm always courteous. 256 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: I would hope that you would say of me, well, 257 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm not much of a talker, that I'm always polite 258 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: to people, and I'm always polite to my uber Slash 259 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: Lyft driver. I just don't. I just do. You can 260 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: actually see my soul leave my body when small talk 261 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: small talk starts happening. You could see the shoulders start 262 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: to do you drink a water or a soda in 263 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: the car? I try not to. Yeah, I do. I'll 264 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: take a water with me or something. 265 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: And I could see someone be like, oh, I don't know, 266 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't coffee. 267 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: I absolutely do. See I don't do that, Oh I 268 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: absolutely do. 269 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: That could be I'll take my four point ninety three please, Yeah, 270 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: I'll wear that. 271 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: Oh, it's worth a point zero seven not to be 272 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: a perfect five. No, I don't take any I did 273 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: take a slab of ribs with me once. No, I 274 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: didn't do that. But where were you that? I was 275 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: at Adam's Ribs. That's where I was at, and I 276 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: took a slab of ribs with me and I offered 277 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: some to the driver. That's why I was able to 278 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: keep my perfect rating of five point zero. No, it's 279 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: very impressive. Well, listen, it's because I'm so polite and 280 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: I like to have a nice conversation with people. No 281 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: part of that is true. Hot enough for you. 282 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: Now, wait a second, I can handle not having a five. 283 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: Being considered more impolite than fingers Maloy is some crap. 284 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: That's garbage. Listen, I'm telling you. Sometimes Tony Less is 285 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: more a ruggedly handsome man gets into your uber and 286 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: just says, good evening, sir, good evening, madam. Please take 287 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: me to your local, and that's the end of it. 288 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your ride. I hope you 289 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: have a pleasant evening. 290 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: So you're saying that, in no way can I blame 291 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: this on anti semitism? 292 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: He could? Hey, I think it's very impressive. From now 293 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: on you get the ubers. I may change my ex 294 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: profile from fitness influencer to perfect rating on lift. 295 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: It's you should do that, eat. 296 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: Drink smoking is your cigar bourbon food. The extravaganza stop 297 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: left and we just started. I'm Tony Katz. That's America's 298 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: favorite amateur drinker. Fingers myoy and we have got ourselves 299 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: a couple of things here. First, the ave Maria Excalibur, 300 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: which is almost six inches long, fifty four ring gauge. 301 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: So this is a J Fernandez who does the cigar. 302 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: I think that if I'll understanding it right, they're the 303 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: people who make the cigar. 304 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: No, at the very least, apparently from things that we've read, 305 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: it's AJ Fernandez curious. 306 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: No. So this is part of the Oio de Monterey 307 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: original brand and now it's in the hands of AJ 308 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: Fernandez and they make the ave Maria cigar. This is 309 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: a cigar that Fingers Boy found on the site cigar Bid. 310 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Full disclosure, We have no financial relationship with cigar bid. 311 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: They are not sponsors of the show. This is not 312 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: an endorsement of cigar bid, but he was able to 313 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: get a five pack at an outrageously good price of 314 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: sixteen dollars for the five pack, when it usually runs 315 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: about sixteen dollars a stick. 316 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: Considering you're eighty three eighty. 317 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: Four eighty five dollars for a five pack, I do 318 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: that math, right, We should really get the boys over 319 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: at Fingers Molloy's Institute for Institutes of Institutes to do 320 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: the math for us to figure that out, to pull 321 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: out the five pack for sixteen is better than a 322 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: five pack for eighty four. Yes, and thus we are 323 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: smoking it. It's got that habano in the binder. It 324 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: is a nic Roguin filler, but a Cameroon wrapper, and 325 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: the habano really dominates on this cigar. But yes, now 326 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: that we're into the second third, it has smoothed out 327 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: a little, but there's a great amount of tobacco here there. 328 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: There is now a little bit of a of a. 329 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Nutty sweet you can argue has kind of of crept 330 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: in there right going on. But you've got the spice 331 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: of the habano. You've got a huge amount of tobacco 332 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: forward in this cigar. I'm not saying it's a bad cigar. 333 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: I'm saying it's a big cigar. 334 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: So you mentioned this before we went on the air, 335 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: when we first pulled these sticks out of the Cell 336 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: of Fame, And I don't know if you planted the 337 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: seed in my head. You said there's a bit of 338 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: scent of the farm. Yes, I'm starting to get a tad. 339 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: I mean a hint of scent of the farm on 340 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: this And it's not a bad thing. I'm I'm really 341 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: happy with the stick, especially at less than four dollars 342 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: a stick, which was a lot I paid for it. Ye, 343 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: when we start talking sixteen seventeen dollars a stick, I'm 344 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: not sure. 345 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not there for that. I'm not 346 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: there for sixteen dollars a stick. 347 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: The way you. 348 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: Found it absolutely absolutely incredible. Is it a nice cigar. 349 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: It's a nice cigar. 350 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 2: But if you if you like a bigger cigar, you're 351 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: gonna try it. Absolutely, you're gonna try it. For me, 352 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: it would certainly, even at that price point, if I bought, 353 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: which I did, a five pack of this cigar, and 354 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: I'm you know, once the weather starts getting warmer and 355 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: I can go outside four or five nights a week 356 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: to have a cigar, I would probably have this for 357 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: this five pack for two or three months. This is 358 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: certainly not an everyday smoke for me. And we are 359 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: pairing this with the Claremont steep Step. This is an 360 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: American malt whiskey from the people at Beam. That's where 361 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: this comes from, from Beam Suntory, the gym Beam Distillery, 362 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: aged five years, eighty percent standard malted barley, twenty percent 363 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: Golden Pilsner malted barley. Again, this is not a bourbon. 364 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: A bourbon has to be fifty percent corn. 365 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: This is a American They call it American single malt whiskey. 366 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: And there was some really unique going on here with 367 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: the grain. Uh was it a little bit of pear? 368 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: And that's kind of fruit we thought we got in it. 369 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: The nose had an ethanol hit. There was a real 370 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: sweetness and a full heat throughout the chest on this. 371 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: But very nice, very nice, and very very well done. 372 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: Now I've got a couple of cubes right here. Oh, 373 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: let's say, you know it's fresh, and Fingers is gonna 374 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: add some water to his if he has. 375 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 2: I already did. I pulled out my eye droppers and I. 376 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: Haven't pulled out an eye dropper since the Great eye dropped. 377 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: Shortage of four hought four too soon, man soon, too soon. 378 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: So when you add water or you add a cube, 379 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: you're bringing down proof. 380 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: This was ninety four proof. Water does that. 381 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: Some flavors more pronounced, some flavors more muted. You're opening 382 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: up the bourbon. You may find you don't like something neat, 383 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: but you love it on the rocks. You love it neat. 384 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: You don't like it on the rocks. Maybe a little 385 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: bit of water. You got to try it all the ways, 386 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: see which way works for you. I've got it on 387 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: a cube. The Claremont c l E R M O 388 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: n T Claremont steep from a beam. 389 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: Here I go. He's going in ladies and gentlemen, and 390 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: he's doing the Memphis munch, the Chad Nouga chump. Buttro Scalley, 391 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: that is not what it is. Oh I like the 392 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: better neat. Yeah, what did it do? Yeah? It took 393 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: away the richness. Hold on. Good for you. He's going 394 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: in for the second sip. Oh the heat built a. 395 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: Uh it took away the richness, right, some of that 396 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: fullness of that made it be like, wow, this is 397 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: this is really kind of unique. You don't have any 398 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: more of that? Is Is that a little bit of 399 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: a chocolate going on there is where you know, the 400 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: oak is there on the on the finish, you know, 401 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: But some of the some of the real balance of 402 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: a couple of those different flavors, because there was a 403 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: lot happening, seems to have gone away. And now we're 404 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: a little more we're a little more monotone and a 405 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: little more heat focused on the tongue, back of throat, 406 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: for sure. 407 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: Fingers of a is going in. 408 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: He just added a little bit of water to his 409 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: Did it change the complexion of his drink? The Claremont 410 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: steep step is what we are drinking. 411 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: And what say you? It's nice. It brought out a 412 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: little bit more of that pair that we were talking about, 413 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: and maybe a hint more of the oak. What it 414 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: did do and just take that you don't, I know 415 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: you're wigged out about drinking someone, but on the nose, 416 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 2: it really took a lot of that ethanol away, at 417 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: least in my mind. Yeah, you do have more of 418 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 2: the grain, You do have more of the aga. And 419 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: I didn't put a whole heck of a lot Again again, yeah, 420 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: I didn't put a whole heck of a lot of 421 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: water in there. But it really took that ethanol. So 422 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: if you're someone that doesn't like that on the nose. 423 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: And by the way, when we tried this neat that 424 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 2: ethanol did not translate to the palette at all. There 425 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: wasn't like a strong like alcohol taste to it at 426 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: all compared to what it was a lot different on 427 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: the nose than it was the palette, didn't you feel 428 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: like on the nose it was a lot sweeter, but 429 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: it had that ethanol. Then it's sweet on the palette, 430 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: but not nearly as sweet as it is on the nose. 431 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what it's sweeter on the nose than it was, Yeah, palette, 432 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: one thousand percent true, it is. It is sweeter on 433 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 2: the nose than on the palette. 434 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: Now I get you the question, Fingers Billoy, is this 435 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: in your liquor cabinet? 436 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 2: Now? 437 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty three, when I first found some 438 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: of the reviews and some people talking about this, this MSRP. 439 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: That's sixty dollars a bottle. 440 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: I and then I see the same sale price right here, 441 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: forty two ninety nine. 442 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 2: Yes, forty two ninety nine. It's in my life liquor cabinet. Yeah, 443 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: it is at forty two ninety nine. Yeah it is. 444 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a unique flavor. It's a unique bunch of flavors. 445 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: But that's just it. 446 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of very cool happening here. I don't 447 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: know if it's an every day drag for some people. 448 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: It may very well be. 449 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: But forty two ninety nine, absolutely no question. That's in 450 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: the liquor cabinet and a very cool gift, a very 451 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: very cool gift, something to bring. Hey, let's try this. 452 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: It really is interesting. But it's time Fingers belloway for 453 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: News of the Week. 454 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: Tony ups announced that it plans to cut up to 455 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: thirty thousand workers this year as it moves to cut cost. 456 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: And also it feels like they're further decoupling away from 457 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: Amazon deliveries and that is having an impact on their business. 458 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: Oh as an Amazon's doing their own. Yeah, could be 459 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: some of that. I think you're right, there could be. 460 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: As we have seen what AI is doing everywhere, you 461 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: can claim that, my gosh, John down and people are 462 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: shutting jobs. Look what's happened to this economy If we're 463 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: not willing to admit that AI has changed the game 464 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, not necessarily that it should 465 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: or that it's a good thing overall. We don't know yet, 466 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: but a lot of people, especially on the corporate side, 467 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: that white collar side, have been trying to utilize AI 468 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: for more opportunities and reducing force. 469 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. AI has had a huge impact. Like right now, 470 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: the show it's being hosted by AI. Stop it. That's 471 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: creepy because you know it can. Yes, it can. You're 472 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: already starting to see. I believe we did the story. 473 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: What was it last week or two weeks ago? That 474 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: YouTube is now providing a service for creators where they 475 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: can have an AI version of themselves. Just upload the 476 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: audio and waka waka waka. There we are an AI form. 477 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 2: It's happening. What are we doing? What? It's the future? Tony? 478 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: Is it? 479 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: I saw a whole map out of this at the 480 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: Nashville World's Fair. When was the Nation World's Fair nineteen 481 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: eighty four? Is that right? Sure? I believe you for 482 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: a that I did. We are not AI, We're the 483 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: real deal. So is it the end of inflation? 484 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: I do not know if snack prices are the way 485 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: to measure these things, but if snack prices are coming down, 486 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm happy to Eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's 487 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: Fingers Moli. I find everything at Eat Drinksmoke show dot com. 488 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: Don't forget to subscribe on your favorite podcast platform and 489 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: get the podcast, and of course on YouTube, all the 490 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: videos are there. Just go to Eat Drink Smoke on 491 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: YouTube and hit subscribe. What's the matter of Fingers molily. 492 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: The World's Fair in Tennessee was actually in Knoxville in 493 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two. You're so close, so close. 494 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got that big fancy five star rating on Lift, 495 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: but you don't know when the World's Fair was. 496 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: That's it. Just need to bring you down to earth. 497 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: I've brought my I've brought shame on my entire family. 498 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: You've been brought, You've been brought low. Yeah, this is 499 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: what you have. 500 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: Pepsi is announcing that drink sales are improving and they're 501 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: cutting snack prices. So fourth quarter income full disclosure. I 502 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: do not own Pepsi stock. I don't believe fingers Bloy 503 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: does where where I'm always I'm always freaked out about 504 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: that stuff. When we talk about something like are we 505 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: just pushing something for our own benefit? 506 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: No, but the amount of Cheetos and Doritos I have 507 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: consumed over the years. I should be a shareholder. Yeah, 508 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 2: that that is right. 509 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: Fourth quarter net income two point five four billion or 510 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: dollars eighty five a share, up from one point five 511 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: to two billion. That's that is very, very impressive. And 512 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: you get towards this bottom of this article on CNBC 513 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: and you realize Pepsi is going to cut prices on 514 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: packages and select brands Lays, Tostitos, Doritos, and Cheetos, and 515 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: then price cuts two key brands like Layers, Tostito's, Gatorade, 516 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: and Quaker have been undergoing makeovers, including simple ingredients, simpler ingredients, 517 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: and new packaging to bring back customers. 518 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: So I never left. 519 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: Does this as a true story? Does this mean that 520 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: the economy is improving? Or does this mean that people 521 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: have moved to cheaper junk food because they can't afford 522 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: other foods and Pepsi's just. 523 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: Trying to keep them. It's interesting because I don't know 524 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: if we did the story last week the CEO of 525 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: Amazon saying that terriffs Jase Yes, that tariffs were starting 526 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: to have an impact on the bottom line and we're 527 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: going to start seeing price increases there, but then you're 528 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: seeing other things decrease, like the price of fuel. The 529 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: price of eggs has common down. You know. Now you're 530 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: seeing the price of snacks. It's like somethings are going up, 531 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: some things are going down. These are just weird times. 532 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: And I, for one, to get completely sidetracked this conversation, Tony, 533 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: I have to ask you of these snacks. I don't 534 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: see you as a dorito guy, as a as a 535 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: I like a good dorito. When's the last time you 536 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: had a dorito? I don't know. Whenever the kids brought 537 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: him home? Really yeah, Cheeto, Cheeto. 538 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it was something that was given in a Halloween thing, 539 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yep, I'll take those right, I will 540 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: steal that from my kids. 541 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: Cheetos are so underrated. Everybody wants to reach for those 542 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: that Doritos bag, but Cheetos. Don't sleep on Cheetos. Don't 543 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: sleep on Cheetos. 544 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: Tostitos a corn chip like a tortilla chip that I 545 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: can have with glackamo only. That's kind of standard of 546 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: my life. You not necessarily a tostito, but corn chips. 547 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you eat tostitos, corn chips or whatever. We have. 548 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: I just figured you to be you know, a little 549 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: bit on the uh. Go to Trader Joe's to get 550 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: the Oh, we've got those. 551 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: Okay, ten thousand percent, we've got those, but I do 552 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: eat them when it comes to my steaks though, I 553 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 1: only get those from Defiance Beef right here in Indiana, 554 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: delivered directly to your door. 555 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: Defiancebeef dot Com. 556 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 1: Jacob, the whole family There incredible work and you can 557 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: order a quarter cow, a half cow, a full cow 558 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: cut to your specifications. You can even right now get 559 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: mini shares, just a couple of steaks, a couple things 560 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: to try, directly to your door frozen perfect just right 561 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: on the grill and write in your belly fantastic. Twenty 562 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: one day agent creates incredible flavor, including the ground beef. 563 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: Your burger's never tasted so good. Defiancebeef dot Com and 564 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: use promo code Eat Drink smoke and get one hundred 565 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars off your cow. Order quarter coow, half cow, 566 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: full cout, whatever it may be. Go check out Defiance 567 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: Beef from the Indiana farm directly to your table age 568 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: twenty one days, cut to your specifications. It cannot get 569 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: any better. It won't get any better. Defiance beef dot 570 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: com promo code eat, drink, smoke, get one hundred and 571 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: fifty dollars off your order. I look at this in 572 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: the economy and I say, you know, you're right about 573 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: eggs and you're right about gas prices. What will be 574 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: the things that need to happen for people to say 575 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: this economy is all right? And so there are overall 576 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: beef prices and do people feel that they can go out. 577 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: To dinner with the family again? Right? So some of 578 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: it has to do with the actual pricing of actual goods. 579 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: Some of it's gonna have to do with whether or 580 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: not we're only a people buying luxury goods, whether we're 581 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: buying the everyday things again. And then do you feel 582 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: at the end of a day, a week, a month, 583 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: there's money in your pocket to take the family out 584 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: to dinner. That is now one's a little harder to track, 585 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: but that expendable income conversation, that's when people say, you 586 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: know what, We're starting to see a result, and there 587 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: is an interesting bit of good news in this economic Look, 588 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: if I have it right, manufacturing was up for the 589 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: first time in like nine months, manufacturing has taken a 590 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: hit with tariffs and all of this downward pressure. We 591 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: have not seen manufacturing in the US on an upswing 592 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of a tickup in the last month, 593 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: and that's a very good sign out. It's only one 594 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: give me three of those. Give me three of those, 595 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 1: and you are going to see people say, all right, 596 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: we're moving in the right direction. 597 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: I think that also people are looking and hoping that 598 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: some costs are going to come down, which I don't 599 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: think is going to happen on say, car prices or 600 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: car insurance. Property taxes for a lot of people continue 601 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: to go up. And now you're seeing reports where, depending 602 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: on what part of the country you live in, energy 603 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: prices electricity going through the roof and no warning. It 604 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 2: feels like, just like overnight, people have have huge increases 605 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 2: in electricity. So I think they're well, yes, my goodness, 606 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: it'd be great if beef prices come down. I think 607 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: there are a lot of other things that need to 608 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: at least stabilize for people to say, okay, things are 609 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: the ship is starting to be righted. 610 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: And if for everybody who's listening to us in Tennessee 611 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: and those surrounding areas. You guys went through hell with 612 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: the ice and the power lines and the power not 613 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: being able to keep up, and it took some people 614 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: a week to get their power back. I think there 615 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: are still some people without power, and there's gonna be 616 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: a real conversation if you think that state run utilities 617 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: are a good idea. There's gonna be a lot of 618 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: talk about these kinds of things, and also how you 619 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: handle it when weird stuff happens, when the grid goes down. 620 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: The idea that you're paying more for electricity and then 621 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: you're down for a week plus, and then someone's gonna say, well, 622 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: you know what we really need here is a rate 623 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: increase to be able to handle these wild weather patterns. 624 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 2: That's good also to get people nutty and things are 625 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: just prices. We talked about this last week. I saw 626 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: a Costco influencer, Tony doing a video the other day. 627 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: A listen. I can't tell you the exact size, but 628 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: I believe it was a frigidare chest freezer. You said 629 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: ninety nine dollars. I mean some of these prices are 630 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: It's just I cannot believe you can get a chest 631 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 2: freezer for ninety nine dollars. Now, who knows if it's 632 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: going to last, you know, twenty years. But my goodness, 633 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 2: there are some affordable buys out there if you look 634 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: for them. 635 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: So is that that people aren't buying them at all? 636 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: It's considered a luxury and they're just not doing it, 637 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: and so they they got to move the unit. Yeah, 638 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: just better to get something than nothing. 639 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: I just know if I'm going to get a quarter 640 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: cow from Defiance Beef, I want a chest free I 641 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 2: have a chest freezer, and I need another one. Well, 642 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: I know where you can get one for ninety nine dollars. 643 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: I need I have a nice size one. I'm ordering 644 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: a larger cow. I'll send you the link to the 645 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: Costco influencer Costco influence. Now you see that should be AI. 646 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, AI playing these parts bad for everybody. 647 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: All some of these warehouses, their hot dogs taste like AI, 648 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: not Costco though, that's the real deal. You are so 649 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: gunning for that sponsorship. You want to be the spokesperson 650 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 2: of Costco hot dog. Just the onion gun, that's all 651 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 2: I care about. I want one. 652 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna start creating ads for Costco. They're not even 653 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: gonna know it just fingers talking about hot dogs. Oh, 654 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: find everything we do at eat ringsmokeshow dot com. Don't 655 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: forget to subscribe. 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