1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like people are great with their money. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: Either of that, or it's just not going quite as far. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: For of the average American paycheck is spent within forty 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: eight hours of paiday. Yeah, half of it gone within 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: two days. 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: So basically, like what they're saying is, let's say you 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: get paid on Friday, by into business Sunday. 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, half of it's gone. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 3: Okay, let's work through this. 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: Okay, because my gut instinct is while people are bad 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: with money, but I do on what you connect to 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: what you said, which is everything getting so expensive that 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: by the time people are taking care of necessities, half 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: the check is gone. I don't know, Like I mean, 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: what would be like you know, the are people buying? 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Are people paying their rent around their paycheck? Are they 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: paying their car payments around their paycheck? Are they buying 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: their groceries around their paycheck? You know, that's probably logical, 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: although it seems like gabbling up half a paycheck on 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: just those things. I don't know, is that normal for 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: most people? 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? If you prioritize your top bills like you mentioned, 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: your rent, your utilities, your insurance, your groceries, what's left 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: for savings at the end of that not a lot. 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: Well too, Yeah, two parts of that. One. 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: The cost of the basics is far out pacing any 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: pay increased people are getting when you factor in you know, 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: property taxes and what they're doing to mortgage payments or 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: rent when you the cost of cars. Now, if you 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: have to replace an automobile, the cost of heck, just 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: the cost of fixing an automobile. I think I told you, well, 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: we did this. It's been a month ago or so. 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: Now I had to get a new battery and it'd 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: been you know, amazingly four years since I'd gotten a battery. Yeah, 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: and it was like, and you know, that little bitty 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: car that I drive, that's got to be about as 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: cheap as a battery can possibly be. And it was 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: two hundred bucks to get to get the battery. I mean, 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, so you've got that obviously, food is just ridiculous. 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: You've got insurance for your automobiles that is just ridiculous. 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: And then you've got you know, all of these other 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: things that you don't really think about that are just 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: sort of the part of the daily existence. And you know, 44 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: electric bills, heating bill, gas bill, if you if you 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: have gas, your public utility bills, the water bill, the 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: sewer bill, you know, all of those sorts of things 47 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: that I can I can see that I can see 48 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: that by the time the two days after the paycheck, 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: half the money's gone. 50 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: Younger generations are being hit the hardest. Millennials are spending 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: forty percent of their paycheck in the first twelve hours. 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: That's more than any Millennials spend forty percent of their 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 2: paycheck within the first twelve hours, and that's more than 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: any other generation. 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so gen Z. 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: And millennials both admitting that they overspend post payday. 57 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: So two things. 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: One, let's come back to let's not talk about the 59 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: young idiots. Let's talk about the people who are no 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: offense Kevin. I'm sure there's many fine people left in 61 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: your generation. We don't know where they are, but I'm 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: sure they're out there somewhere. Let's like work through this 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: from the people who are losing fifty percent of their 64 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: paycheck in terms of it's getting gobbled up by rising 65 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: costs of necessities. First of all, like you said, it 66 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: eliminates an ability to have a savings because I assume 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: most people have hobbies. I don't have any, but most 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: people do, so they spend money on stuff. 69 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: So there's that side of it. 70 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: It eliminates your ability to generally have but build up 71 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: a savings account, which so when you have larger emergency 72 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: expenditures then you really get behind the eight ball. 73 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: That's one side of it. 74 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: But two, it also dilutes the buying power of non necessities, 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: which is how an economy thrives. You got to go 76 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: to the store, you buy stuff, toys, you know, all 77 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: of these variety of things. And if you can't do that, 78 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: then it's gonna affect every single goal sector of our economy. 79 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: So gen Z Kevin paid an average of two hundred 80 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: and seventy five dollars in overdraft or late fees over 81 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: the past year non affairness. 82 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: Kevin is a millennial, I think, right, you're part of 83 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: my little screwed up Yeah, you're a young old you're 84 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: a young millennial. 85 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: You're old. 86 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: Oh why yes, I am very old now. But but 87 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: but what what was the over the overdraft? 88 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: Two hundred and seventy five dollars a month, No, over 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: the past year, over the past year. 90 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they and that's money just flushed down the 91 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: toy couldn't you manage your money now. Yeah, there's no 92 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: reason for a gen Z person to have any sort 93 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: of like not be able to pay their bills. You 94 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: can choose where you live, you have mobility options. If 95 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: you have any sort of employment, you really can. I'm 96 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: not saying you can move into a penthouse, but you 97 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: have the ability to, you know, skin noodle in and 98 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: out of various scenarios. You can live with people like 99 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: There really is no reason for a gen Z person 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: with any sort of gainful employment to have money troubles 101 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: unless they're self created. 102 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: Well right, especially if they have the ability to get 103 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: a roommate and split the costs. 104 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: I never had a roommate. 105 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well times were different way back then. 106 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: Well no, I also just thought, I don't didn't think 107 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: I could live with someone. I mean, I just thought 108 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: that'd be a real thought, that'd be a real burdensome endeavor. 109 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: That's totally true. 110 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I never for them. 111 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: I never they never got the privilege case. I think 112 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. I never I never had 113 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: I never had a roommate, and I never lived in 114 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: an apartment. I lived in like a like a condo 115 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: or a duplex. But I never lived in an apartment 116 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: complex ever. 117 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: No, never. 118 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: So half of millennials and half of gen z have 119 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: used early pay access when it's available like a paid 120 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: a loan, yeah, or like you can request getting your 121 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: paycheck early. 122 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: What is going on with people? I mean, I get 123 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: that things are more expensive. I get that there are 124 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: emergency expenditors. I get that there are you know, options 125 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: to the rule. 126 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: Is that poor budgeting? 127 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: Well, totally. 128 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: It's a lack of prioritizing emotion expenses, sure, absolutely avoiding debt. 129 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: Possibly. 130 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: So there's the bi weekly paycheck model, and more and 131 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: more people are saying that that is not aligned correctly 132 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: with modern financial realities. 133 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: I know a guy this isn't funny, but he'll laugh 134 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: if he hears me to talk about this. I know 135 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: a guy who has lived in his house. We talk 136 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: about reasons people get upside down. And I only show 137 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: this because he will chuckle if if he hears this. 138 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: I know a guy who has lived in his house 139 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: for twenty five years. 140 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: He has. 141 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: He has been divorced twice, he has stayed in the 142 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: same he has stayed in the same house. And he 143 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: was telling me the amount of equity that he has 144 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: saved up in his house and it's like it was 145 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: so ridiculously low because he's lost the house twice in 146 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: his divorce of keeps up right. 147 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: That's an expensive proposition. 148 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: So that guy, there's your outlier, right, there's the lot 149 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: does a good job and everything else. But for the 150 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: most part, it's like, dude, what are you doing with 151 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: your finances? Like are people still buying stuff off the QVC? 152 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: Like are they still having anything shipped to their house? 153 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: Is Amazon? The lure of Amazon? 154 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: That power now three rolls around for this guy. Maybe 155 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: you should advise him not. 156 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: Well, I already had that. I've already told him, you know, 157 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: this is just not for you. 158 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: Right, told you've given it a shot twice. 159 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine to have a girlfriend, and that's wonderful, 160 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: and I hope you have a long prosperous existence. But 161 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: you cannot move in with me. And I'm worried that's 162 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: where it's going to go next if you. 163 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: But as you mentioned, a big part of this problem 164 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: is that everything's more expensive. When you look at food prices, 165 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: they're continuing to climb. Bananas are seven percent more expensive 166 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: than they were last year. Ground beef is thirteen thirteen 167 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: percent more expensive than last year. Coffee is surging nineteen 168 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: percent more expensive than it was last year. So all 169 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: of these things adding up