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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, I mean, this does reflect the ongoing

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Speaker 2: There is the aspect that you've got the local Republican

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Speaker 2: And you've also got agreements that allow local police to

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Speaker 2: Well, he's investing his money and it finally paid off

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Speaker 2: So this license played. It has a red stripe on top,

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Speaker 2: Long, and now here in Indiana you can celebrate within

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So when Jensaki comes out on her podcast and

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Speaker 3: committed crimes, that have been trying to cover it up

440
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Speaker 3: for years and years and years and are using all

441
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Speaker 3: of their power and all of their influence to do so.

442
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Speaker 3: And now finally somebody, people like Thomas Massey and even

443
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: Democrats like Rocana have come out and said, no this,

444
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Speaker 3: We're going to support the normal people. We're going to

445
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Speaker 3: support the average, everyday American, and we're going to do

446
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Speaker 3: everything we can to expose what these elites have been doing.

447
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Speaker 2: TMZ is reporting that Jeffrey Epstein had a collection of

448
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Speaker 2: highly poisonous plants known to produce a drug that blocks

449
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 2: free will in its victims. Now, this was according to

450
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Speaker 2: some new emails that were discovered in the latest dump

451
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Speaker 2: of files and reported by like I said, TMZ and

452
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Speaker 2: just another example of the disturbing discoveries in these files.

453
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Speaker 2: And that transparency is showing all of these things. But

454
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, an Act of Congress to.

455
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Speaker 3: Get that done, and there's still this is what's so

456
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Speaker 3: frustrating about it. And yes, I'm happy that we've made

457
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Speaker 3: progress on some transparency and getting to the truth and

458
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Speaker 3: finding out what's happening, but there's still so much out

459
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Speaker 3: there that we're not being told. And we know this

460
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Speaker 3: from members of Congress that have seen the unredacted files

461
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Speaker 3: and have come back and have talked about specific details.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not going to get into them. You can

463
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Speaker 4: see them.

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Speaker 3: Lauren Bobert talked about them recently, and it's because it's hearsay.

465
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Speaker 3: Just at this point, you know, we're having to take

466
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Speaker 3: these officials words for it. We have not seen them,

467
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Speaker 3: so it seems like it would not be appropriate to

468
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Speaker 3: talk about them and report on them as if they

469
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Speaker 3: are one hundred percent concrete facts. But the atrocities that

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Speaker 3: were committed, however bad you think it was, however awful,

471
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Speaker 3: the things that you think happened in this entire Epstein case,

472
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Speaker 3: it looks like and it's being indicated that it is.

473
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Speaker 3: It is much much worse than what you ever thought.

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Speaker 3: And so but it is interesting, and this is something

475
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Speaker 3: that's being taken out of this is this use of

476
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Speaker 3: this derivative from this flower called scapolamine that Epstein used.

477
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Speaker 3: In high doses, it causes people amnesia. And you may

478
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Speaker 3: have some experience with scapolamine. I know I do, So

479
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Speaker 3: there it is.

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Speaker 4: It's used.

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Speaker 3: Patches are used to treat nausea, and so if you

482
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Speaker 3: got a lot of these.

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Speaker 4: You see a lot of these on a cruise. So

484
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Speaker 4: if you go on a cruise, and typically if you're

485
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Speaker 4: somebody that may get seasick, the doctor will prescribe you

486
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Speaker 4: this little patch and you stick it behind your ear

487
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Speaker 4: and it can really help with nausea. And that's what

488
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Speaker 4: we did.

489
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Speaker 3: We've used them, and I used them because I had

490
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Speaker 3: some surgeries in the last few years that caused me

491
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Speaker 3: a lot of post op nausea and use them and

492
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Speaker 3: they were normal. But apparently in high doses it can

493
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Speaker 3: cause absolute complete amnesia.

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Speaker 2: So you've got this journalist and he says, these two

495
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Speaker 2: things need to happen in regards to the Epstein files.

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Speaker 5: They knew they could get away with it, They knew

497
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Speaker 5: they would not be punished. They could enjoy the company

498
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Speaker 5: of Jeffrey Epstein, the favors of Jeffrey Epstein. They can

499
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Speaker 5: enjoy a good laugh with Jeffrey Epstein over email. They

500
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Speaker 5: can enjoy lunch on his island as they boarded there,

501
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Speaker 5: as they got off their yacht, as Howard Lutnik did.

502
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Speaker 5: They could have this secret, this secret world. And two

503
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Speaker 5: things need to happen. Every very single one of them

504
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 5: needs to be torn down, right, whether it's a criminal

505
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Speaker 5: prosecution or whether we are banishing them, right, whether we

506
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Speaker 5: are ostracizing them from decent society, Because that's the second

507
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Speaker 5: thing that needs to happen. Ask yourself, would you have

508
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Speaker 5: done it my hunches? The vast majority would say no.

509
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 5: Why because most Americans are still ordinary, decent people. And

510
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 5: what we see in these files is that those people

511
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Speaker 5: aren't decent. Whatever happened to them, whatever the explanation is,

512
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Speaker 5: they went beyond the bounds of decency and they were

513
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Speaker 5: running our society and our country. So every one of

514
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Speaker 5: them needs to be torn down. That's something that should

515
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Speaker 5: unite Republicans and Democrats, and we need to try to

516
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Speaker 5: re establish a demand for basic decency in our leaders.

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Speaker 2: Shame them, is what he's saying. Even if nothing criminal

518
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Speaker 2: or even civil comes out of it, Shame them.

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Speaker 3: That's what I've been saying on the show for weeks now.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say this, and a lot of people

521
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: don't want to hear it, but it's the truth. We're

522
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: likely not to see you any or if we get

523
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Speaker 3: any very few people go to trial.

524
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Speaker 4: Over this and go to jail. And there's a number

525
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Speaker 4: of reasons about that.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these crimes have long the statute of

527
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: limitations has long expired. And while what we're seeing here

528
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: is it looks to be evidence, it's really circumstantial evidence.

529
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 3: Is not a whole lot of smoking guns or any

530
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: smoking guns that say X person committed X crime, And

531
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Speaker 3: here is the information. All of this has been a

532
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Speaker 3: lot of circumstantial evidence. And by the way, I've seen

533
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Speaker 3: a lot of legal experts that will sit here and

534
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 3: tell you these Epstein files it's almost all hearsay and

535
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: absolutely not admissible in a court of laws. So we're

536
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Speaker 3: not going to get convictions. People aren't going to go

537
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Speaker 3: to jail. So fine, how do we what do we

538
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: have left to hold them accountable, get as much of

539
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: the truth out there as possible, publicly, shame them, and

540
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: banish them from society forever, and they can go live

541
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Speaker 3: their life in quiet, but not be part of the

542
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Speaker 3: ruling class, and certainly no longer have any power in

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Speaker 3: this country.

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Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton did an interview with the BBCs and she

545
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Speaker 2: was accusing the Trump administration of holding back important documents

546
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Speaker 2: from the Epstein files. Uh oh, Hillary Clinton, here she

547
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Speaker 2: is again. You know, we're getting closer to the midterms

548
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: because her and Barack Obama keep popping up everything.

549
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Speaker 3: Right magically, all of a sudden, every two years we

550
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Speaker 3: see Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama getting FaceTime on TV.

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Speaker 2: But are you believing anything she says. She's just throwing

552
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Speaker 2: mud at this point.

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Speaker 3: You can, you can take the words that are coming

554
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: out of her mouth at fact. And yes, this Trump

555
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: administration should be doing more to expose these files.

556
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Speaker 4: But your husband is all over them.

557
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Speaker 3: The audacity, the complete lack of understanding and being able

558
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Speaker 3: to read the room to come out and criticize this

559
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Speaker 3: administration when we've got newly released photos of your husband,

560
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: at least photos you know, in swimming pools, with his

561
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Speaker 3: shirt off with a lot of young women. We know

562
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Speaker 3: this about Bill Clinton, and look, I think we expect

563
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Speaker 3: this from Bill Clinton. We all knew Bill Clinton, you.

564
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Speaker 4: Know, was kind of a shady guy, especially when it

565
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Speaker 4: came to women.

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Speaker 3: And this is proving out as we see more of

567
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Speaker 3: these from the Epstein files. But the absolute gall and

568
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Speaker 3: lack of self awareness for Hillary Clinton to say these words,

569
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Speaker 3: by the way, on the world stage, she was in

570
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Speaker 3: Munich when she said this, to come out and have anything,

571
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Speaker 3: just the hypocrisy from her is even for her, still shocking.

572
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Speaker 4: I shouldn't be shocked. Hillary Clinton's been a hypocrite for

573
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Speaker 4: two decades, three decades. I shouldn't be shocked by this,

574
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Speaker 4: but this was at such a level I was shocked.

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Speaker 2: Her and Bill Clinton. They're expected to testify before Congress

576
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Speaker 2: later this month about the case, and I just I

577
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Speaker 2: don't know if anything she says, if I'm gonna believe it,

578
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Speaker 2: this is all theater at that point.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, the woman's been caught in

580
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Speaker 3: lies before. I mean, we all know about how dirty

581
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Speaker 3: of a politician Hillary Clinton was, and how dirty of

582
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Speaker 3: a politician and all the awful things Bill Clinton did

583
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Speaker 3: over the years, and so getting them up in front

584
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Speaker 3: of Congress and having them answer questions, I'm sure they'll

585
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Speaker 3: have all the correct right pr answers.

586
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Speaker 4: Who knows.

587
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Speaker 3: I mean, you may even see Bill Clinton plead the

588
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Speaker 3: fifth at some point in time with this questioning. It

589
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Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me at this point, but.

590
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Speaker 4: Shame on me. I shouldn't be surprised by her hypocrisy,

591
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Speaker 4: but here I am. Shame on me. I'm surprised.

592
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Speaker 2: So a reporter was asking Donald Trump on Air Force

593
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Speaker 2: one about this, and he said he's got nothing to hide.

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Speaker 6: Sand Hillary Clinton said in an interview today that she

595
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Speaker 6: and her husband are getting pulled into the Epstein matter

596
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Speaker 6: to divert attention from you, and your administration has something

597
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Speaker 6: to hide. What's a response, Why.

598
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Speaker 4: Have nothing to hide?

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Speaker 7: I've been exonerate and I have nothing to do with

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Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epstein. They went in hoping that the find it

601
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Speaker 7: and found just the opposite. I've been totally exonerated. In fact,

602
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Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epstein was fighting that I don't get elected with

603
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Speaker 7: some author a sleeves bag, by the way, and I've

604
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Speaker 7: been totally exonerated. No, No, they're getting pulled.

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Speaker 1: In and that's the problem.

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Speaker 7: I don't know. They have to see what happens. But

607
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 7: I watched her in Munich and she seriously has Strump

608
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Speaker 7: derangements in publicly tell you, I've been totally exonerated on Epstein.

609
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Speaker 7: And it's really interesting because they've been pulled in.

610
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Speaker 4: To think of it, they've been pulled in.

611
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Speaker 7: Clinton and many other Democrats have been pulled in.

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Speaker 2: Yet Trump says he's been exonerated. Who exonerated?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in his self, in his mind, he's

614
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: exonerated himself. And look, it's it's obvious that Trump was

615
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Speaker 3: a friend of Epstein for a while before Epstein was convicted.

616
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Speaker 3: And it seems like the facts will prove out that,

617
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: you know, Trump ended that relationship, uh, you know, before

618
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Speaker 3: Epstein's conviction. But still pretty uncomfortable how close they were.

619
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Speaker 3: But I don't think there's anybody Look, if there was

620
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Speaker 3: some real dirt in those Epstein files, keep in mind

621
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Speaker 3: it was liberals and Democrats that found a way to

622
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Speaker 3: leak Trump's tax records during the election. Remember that he

623
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Speaker 3: wasn't going to share his tax records, but share a

624
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: contractor with the IRS released those tax records. I guarantee

625
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Speaker 3: you that there's a liberal somewhere in the Justice Department

626
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Speaker 3: who has access to the unredacted files that are still

627
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Speaker 3: being held back, and if there was anything incriminating, seriously

628
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: incriminating in there about Trump, it would have been leaked before.

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Speaker 2: Now you're listening to ninety three WIBC. Independents are walking

630
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Speaker 2: away from Trump, at least according to CNN. They put

631
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Speaker 2: out a new poll. They actually took four different polls,

632
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Speaker 2: and all of the numbers said the same thing. That

633
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Speaker 2: below twenty seven points. Yeah, twenty dependants are leaving the

634
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Speaker 2: Republican Party choosing to be politically homeless.

635
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Speaker 3: Look, we've talked about this before on this show. Trump

636
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: wears you out.

637
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Speaker 4: I get it.

638
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Speaker 3: And look, look, Trump's had some wins and Trump's had

639
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Speaker 3: some you know, disasters that have happened, and it's only

640
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: been a year since he's been in office. But regardless

641
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: of the wins or the losses in the Trump administration,

642
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: he is just grinding. And we knew that this was

643
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Speaker 3: going to happen. It's just difficult. There's just so much

644
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Speaker 3: that goes on, and he says so many things that

645
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: just you know, are out of pocket and sound unhinged

646
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Speaker 3: at times. And he creates so much controversy that the

647
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Speaker 3: American people eventually just get worn down from Trump. And

648
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Speaker 3: we're starting to see that in the polling. In this

649
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Speaker 3: most recent CNN poll proves that out. And this is

650
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Speaker 3: going to be a big deal. Is this a big mid.

651
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Speaker 4: Term election that we've got coming up right here?

652
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Speaker 3: And all the data that we're seeing right now indicates

653
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a real tough one for Republicans.

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Speaker 2: Well, according to Frank Lunt, he's a polster. He says

655
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Speaker 2: that Americans are disapproving of both political parties at record

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Speaker 2: levels and that that could really effect the turnout the midterms.

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Speaker 2: And it absolutely will not inspired to vote for anybody,

658
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Speaker 2: vote for no one.

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Speaker 4: And this is Trump.

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Speaker 3: This has been Trump's biggest problem is that when Trump's

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Speaker 3: not on the ballot, he loses a lot of his power.

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Speaker 3: Trump's on the ballot in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: big victories for Republicans, but when he endorses candidates, he

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Speaker 3: doesn't have a great track record or that when he

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Speaker 3: comes out in the you know, the midterm that he

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Speaker 3: had in twenty eighteen and the midterm that he's going

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Speaker 3: to have coming up at the end of this year.

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Speaker 3: He has a track record of not being able to

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Speaker 3: get people to the polls to not only vote for

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Speaker 3: his candidate, but to vote for Republicans in general. When

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Speaker 3: he's not on the ballot, Republicans do not do well.

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Speaker 3: And that is the prospect that we are faced with

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Speaker 3: ten months from now when we have the midterm election.

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Speaker 2: So this is what this pollster says that each party

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Speaker 2: needs to do to convince voters to support them.

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Speaker 8: Republicans have to focus on results.

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Speaker 4: They've been in charge now for a year and they

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Speaker 4: have to be able.

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Speaker 5: To show that what they've done is had a meaningful,

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Speaker 5: measurable impact on the average voter, and they have not

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Speaker 5: succeeded up to this point. In fact, at the end of.

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Speaker 7: Twenty twenty five, they were leading the Democrats in almost

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Speaker 7: every generic vote poll.

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Speaker 5: But what we have seen over the last one hundred days.

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Speaker 7: Is that Democrats, and some of this is because of

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Speaker 7: the healthcare legislation, the American people cannot afford their healthcare.

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Speaker 2: So he went on to say that Democrats need to

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Speaker 2: show that they have a better plan.

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Speaker 4: I think he's.

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Speaker 3: Spot on on both of those things, because what is

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Speaker 3: going to be the issue as was a big issue

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. Is life is unaffordable for many Americans?

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Speaker 3: And what are you doing about it?

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Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WIBC Good Morning Words.

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Speaker 9: And should the US actually commit US troops to defend Taiwan?

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Speaker 10: If China wrote to me, you know, I I think

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Speaker 10: that this is such a you know, I think.

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Speaker 2: That this is a.

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Speaker 4: Kamanahamahamanahamanahamma.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So representing the US and the world stage should

701
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Speaker 2: show competence and substance, not confusion and flailing answers. And

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Speaker 2: that was AOC. She was at the Munich Security Conference

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Speaker 2: and she was asked a tough question and she did

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Speaker 2: not have the answer. Here's the deal with China. They're

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Speaker 2: in it for the long game. They can wait forever.

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Speaker 2: The difference the United States has a new president every

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Speaker 2: four to eight years. China can wait and wait and wait.

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Speaker 2: But AOC still did not have an answer to the question.

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Speaker 3: Now, look, I don't know who thought it would be

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Speaker 3: a good idea to take a twenty somethingter former cocktail

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Speaker 3: waitress and put her on the international world. So I

712
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: was in management, in media for a long time, in

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Speaker 3: leadership and went through a lot of management training. One

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Speaker 3: of the early things they tell you when you become

715
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Speaker 3: a manager in corporate America is you should never ask

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Speaker 3: one of your employees to do something that they're not

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Speaker 3: capable of doing.

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Speaker 2: Puts them in a bad position, sets them up to fail.

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Speaker 3: Who Ever told AOC that it was a good idea

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Speaker 3: for her to go to this highly publicized Munich security

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Speaker 3: conference and be on the world stage to talk about

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Speaker 3: things that she clearly does not have the depth of

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Speaker 3: knowledge to talk about. Oddly enough, it's one of those situations.

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Speaker 3: I don't blame AOC for this. She couldn't do this.

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Speaker 3: There's no way she could do this. It's whoever told

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Speaker 3: her that it was a good idea for her to

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Speaker 3: go to Munich and open her big fat trap and

728
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Speaker 3: start running in her mouth about things she doesn't know about.

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Speaker 3: They're the ones that are at fault in this situation.

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Speaker 3: She was a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, week, Well, I mean, if you want to

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Speaker 2: compete globally, you need representation with strong foreign policy chops

733
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Speaker 2: like Marco Rubio and we'll get to him in just

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Speaker 2: a little bit. But it does show her inexperience in

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Speaker 2: international matters. Imagine this Democrats flew to Munich after shutting

736
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Speaker 2: down our government just to tell the world that we're dysfunctional.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what, Well, but people like her. It's

738
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Speaker 2: more like it's the branding, right. She was excited to

739
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Speaker 2: show her supporters back home that she could do this

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Speaker 2: and she couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm going to do something weird right now.

742
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Speaker 3: I'm actually going to say something nice about Hillary Clinton

743
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Speaker 3: because she was at this Munich conference as well, and

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Speaker 3: at the very least, and look, I got a lot

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Speaker 3: of problems with Hillary Clinton. Disagree with a lot of

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Speaker 3: the things that she says, and she said some things

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Speaker 3: that we've already challenged on the show here this morning,

748
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Speaker 3: but she can at least speak intelligently about it. Look,

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Speaker 3: she's been on the world stage for a long long time,

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Speaker 3: not only as First Lady, but as a former Senator

751
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Speaker 3: from New York and as a former Secretary of State.

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Speaker 3: When she speaks, you sit here and say, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: don't agree with what she's saying, but I believe that

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Speaker 3: she grasps the issues. That is something you cannot say

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Speaker 3: about AOC. She just absolutely embarrassed herself and I can't,

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Speaker 3: you know, I normally don't care, still don't care what

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Speaker 3: other countries think about US, especially European countries.

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Speaker 4: But she was embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a sitting member of the US House

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Speaker 3: of Representatives just embarrassing herself and embarrassing us on the

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Speaker 3: world stage.

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Speaker 2: Well, she brought her active style rhetoric to a forum

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Speaker 2: that prioritizes strategic depth and diplomatic nuance, and she just

764
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Speaker 2: didn't have it. You know, she is the progressive champion,

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Speaker 2: and she's always focusing on affordability and other domestic issues,

766
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Speaker 2: and she did not get good reviews for her performance

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Speaker 2: there at the Munich Security Conference. And the thing about

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Speaker 2: her that bothers me is when she disagrees with somebody,

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Speaker 2: she always frames it that it's dangerous and flawed. She

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Speaker 2: can never just say, hmm, I have a different opinion. No,

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Speaker 2: you have to be evil in her eyes if you

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Speaker 2: don't agree with her.

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Speaker 3: But that's very typical of liberals and democrats. We know

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Speaker 3: that they have a litmus test. They have a litmus

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Speaker 3: test about twenty things. Here are twenty positions that we

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Speaker 3: stand for, and if you don't stand with us on

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Speaker 3: every single one of these positions, you're a racist. You're

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Speaker 3: a Nazi, You're a danger to society, You're a threat

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Speaker 3: to democracy.

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Speaker 11: That is.

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Speaker 3: And while that may play well in her district in

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Speaker 3: ultraliberal New York, doesn't play very well in the rest

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Speaker 3: of the country certainly doesn't play well on the international stage.

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Speaker 3: And what she just did, she gave the Republicans an

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Speaker 3: absolute gift because when the as we get farther into

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Speaker 3: the midterm elections, here the videos and attack ads that

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Speaker 3: are going to be done.

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Speaker 4: Look and keep in mind here aoc. She is the

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Speaker 4: face of the Democrat Party. Her and Bernie Sanders.

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Speaker 3: Look, they traveled all around the country and did their

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Speaker 3: big tour and talked to crowds about oligarchs and the

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Speaker 3: evil rich people and the evil Conservatives and Republicans, and

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Speaker 3: that played well for her.

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Speaker 4: She is one of easily the top.

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Speaker 3: Three faces of the Democrat Party in this country right now.

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Speaker 3: And she just gave the Republicans a gold mine of

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Speaker 3: attack ads that will be used in this upcoming interm election.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like she thought this was going to

799
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Speaker 2: be a campaign rally rather than a thoughtful discussion on

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Speaker 2: global issues. Kevin, let's play the clip one more time

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Speaker 2: and then We've got something for you to compare it to.

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Speaker 2: All right, here she is again being asked about Taiwan.

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Speaker 9: Would and should the US actually commit US troops to

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Speaker 9: defend Taiwan if China were to move.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that.

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Speaker 12: This is such a you know, I think that.

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Speaker 2: This is a.

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Speaker 12: This is of course, a very long standing policy of

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Speaker 12: the United States. And I think what we are hoping

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Speaker 12: for is that we want to make sure that we

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Speaker 12: never get to that point, and we want to make

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Speaker 12: sure that we are moving in all of our economic

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Speaker 12: research and our global positions to avoid any such confrontation.

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Speaker 12: And for that question to even arise.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so hope is not an action. She was like,

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Speaker 2: we hope we don't ever have to get there. But

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Speaker 2: was she getting lessons on how to answer that question

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Speaker 2: from Kamala Harris or from Miss South Carolina.

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Speaker 13: Some people out there in our nation don't have that.

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Speaker 13: And I believe that our education like such as in

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Speaker 13: South Africa and diract everywhere like such as and I

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Speaker 13: believe that they should Our education over here in the

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Speaker 13: US should help the US, or should help South Africa,

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Speaker 13: it should help direct in the Asian countries, so we

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Speaker 13: will be able to build up our future.

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Speaker 2: For so, speaking of maps, okay AOC. She was asked

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Speaker 2: a question about Venezuela and maybe maybe she needs to

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Speaker 2: get a map out because she was incorrect on her answer.

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Speaker 12: You know, we look at what happened in Venezuela, for example.

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Speaker 2: It is not a.

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Speaker 12: Is It is not a remark on who Maduro was

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Speaker 12: as a leader. He canceled elections, He was an anti

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Speaker 12: democratic leader. That doesn't mean that we can kidnap ahead

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Speaker 12: of state and engage in acts of war just because

835
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Speaker 12: the nation is below the equator, and.

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Speaker 2: The nation is not below the equator. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: Maduro was not the head of state that was the problem.

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Speaker 3: Just so we're clear, not one single piece of the

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Speaker 3: country of Venezuela is below the equator.

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Speaker 4: She came up. By the way, those clips weren't edited. No,

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Speaker 4: it sound like you.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like that somebody that was editing those pieces

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Speaker 3: and kind of all the ums and as and well

844
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Speaker 3: I think in this thing that chunked them all together

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Speaker 3: into one piece.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's the raw audio on all of this.

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Speaker 3: She is trying to position herself, is maybe I'll run

848
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Speaker 3: for president in twenty twenty eight, maybe I won't run

849
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Speaker 3: for president in twenty twenty eight. She showed that she's

850
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: clearly not ready. We already knew that, but here on

851
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Speaker 3: an international stage, she just crapped the bed and showed

852
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Speaker 3: everybody that she shouldn't even be in Congress, much less

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Speaker 3: even start whispering or talking about a potential presidential world.

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Speaker 2: Well, she was asked about that whether she might run

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Speaker 2: for president in twenty eight. She didn't directly deny it.

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Speaker 2: She kind of laughed off the question. And laughing it

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Speaker 2: off is somewhat of an admission, right, Like she's blowing

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Speaker 2: out that test balloon, like I kinda wanna let's see

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Speaker 2: how I do here in Munich.

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Speaker 4: Look, I hope the Democrats run AOC for president. She

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Speaker 4: wears the Democratic profile.

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Speaker 3: She I hope that she wins the Democrat primary over

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom and all the rest of the Democrats, and

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Speaker 3: she's the face of the party and it's her versus

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Speaker 3: whoever against the Republicans in twenty twenty eight, because that's

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Speaker 3: an easy slam dunk win for the Republicans. It is

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Speaker 3: clear she is not a serious person. It is clear

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Speaker 3: that she does not have the depth of knowledge on

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Speaker 3: these very difficult but necessary questions on the international stage,

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Speaker 3: and she proved it right in front of us.

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Speaker 2: She was trying to mock Marco Rubio and again got

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Speaker 2: her facts wrong.

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Speaker 12: Rubio's speech was a pure appeal to Western culture. My

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Speaker 12: favorite part was when he said that American cowboys came

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Speaker 12: from Spain. I believe the Mexicans and descendants of African

876
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 12: enslaved people's would like to have a word on that.

877
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: I did do a little research on that, and I

878
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: believe that they were reintroduced to Mexico by Spanish conquistadors

879
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: starting in fifteen nineteen. But everything with her, it's constant

880
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: socialist rhetoric, and it always comes back to class and

881
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: race with her well.

882
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: And again another great example of her being on the

883
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 3: wrong side of an eighty twenty issue. People saw Marco

884
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: Rubio at the Munich conference and his speech and absolutely

885
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 3: raved about it. He looked presidential, he looked like an

886
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: international statesman. He was saying the right things. Afterwards, people

887
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: were like, yes, of Marco Rubio, You're amazing, You're fantastic.

888
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: There were whispers from Europeans about he jeez, we wish

889
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: Rubio was president instead of Trump. He crushed it up there,

890
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 3: And yet what does she want to do Rather than

891
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: just letting that be, she sits on the twenty percent side,

892
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: she wants to enforce the fact and remind everybody that

893
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 3: she's on the wrong side of public opinion and start

894
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: criticizing Rubio for his speech when everybody else was like,

895
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 3: that was the best speech we heard from any international

896
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 3: lead all week.

897
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely was more like branding exercise than serious

898
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: foreign policy engagement. But Donald Trump was asked about it,

899
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: and he said that she did not look good.

900
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 7: Come And by the way, I watched AOC answering questions

901
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 7: in Munich. This was not a good look with the

902
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 7: United States. I watched Gavin news Com answering questions for

903
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 7: US in Munich, and this was a banned look for

904
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 7: our country.

905
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 8: This was a mad These two people are incompetent, and

906
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 8: at least Hilory is competent. She's just Trump deranged. She

907
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 8: was so deranged. She is an angry woman.

908
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 7: But I watched the other two speaking and answering basic questions. Look,

909
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 7: Gavin has destroyed California and AOC I never really got her.

910
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 7: I never heard her speak very much. And they started

911
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 7: answering questions. She had no idea what was happening. She

912
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 7: had no idea how to answer, you know, very important

913
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 7: questions concerning the world. But you can't answer questions concerning

914
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 7: New York City either, because New York City.

915
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Speaker 6: Is gots some problems now that causes ery.

916
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: So he called them incompetent and said that her performance

917
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: was a bad look for the country.

918
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: I hadn't even heard that clip from Trump until we

919
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: just played it. I said the exact same thing. Look,

920
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: Hillary's got TDS. She's an absolute hypocrite when she's speaking

921
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 3: out on these Epstein files, but she can speak intelligently

922
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: on difficult international questions and situations and ends up being

923
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 3: respected by everybody else because at least you may disagree

924
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 3: with her opinion, but at least she has a well

925
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: thought out, well sourced, intelligent opinion on these things. When

926
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: Nuskum as president, Trump likes to call him at AOC,

927
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 3: he's right embarrassed, not only themselves, but embarrassed.

928
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 4: All of us.

929
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Speaker 2: On that you're listening to ninety three WIBC. If you

930
00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: need longer than two weeks, you're not serious. You're just

931
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: not serious. So you've got Republican state senators in Indiana,

932
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Speaker 2: they revived a plan to reduce the early voting period

933
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Speaker 2: from twenty eight days to sixteen days for the upcoming primary.

934
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Speaker 2: It was added as an amendment to a broader election bill.

935
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Speaker 2: It's going to save money, it's going to make the

936
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Speaker 2: elections easier to manage. And again, I go back to

937
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: if you need twenty eight days, what are you doing.

938
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Speaker 2: How long does it take you to vote? It takes

939
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Speaker 2: a day.

940
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not running elections for convenience. We're running them

941
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Speaker 4: for integrity.

942
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: And the pendulum always seems when it swings too far

943
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: one way, it always seems to eventually swing back the

944
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: other way. And what we saw during COVID were pretty

945
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: much anything goes. You want to mail in ballot, sure,

946
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: here's a big stack of them, hand them out to

947
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 3: your friends.

948
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Speaker 4: You want to vote on something other than election day.

949
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 4: One will make it easier for you.

950
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna open up all these You can vote anytime

951
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: you want, it's election day, election month.

952
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 4: This is just smart and sensible.

953
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: One of the few things that it seems like the

954
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Speaker 3: Republicans in the state House have done that is fairly

955
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: smart and sensible.

956
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 4: In this entire session there in the middle of here.

957
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 4: This it's it.

958
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: Just seems like common sense. And for the people that

959
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: are pushing back on this, they come across as as

960
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: as just the lunatic, unhinged left.

961
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Speaker 2: So the people that are pushing back are the Democratic

962
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: State senators, and they're saying that this could lead to

963
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: longer lines and make it harder for people, especially people

964
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: with busy schedules or transportation issues to cast ballots. Guys, sorry,

965
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: sorry if you have to take an hour or two

966
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: to go do this.

967
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're gonna just see a lot of

968
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 3: people that are going to have very little sympathy for this.

969
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: Look, we talk a lot about how.

970
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 3: Ideally the Republicans and Conservatives are the party of grown

971
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: ups and the Democrats are the liberals of the Party

972
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: of children, and children will push into you know, try

973
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: and get away with whatever they can until mom and

974
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,959
Speaker 3: dad sits them down and says, Nope, you've had enough.

975
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 3: We're not doing this anymore. Things have gone too far.

976
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: It's time to button this up and shortening. And by

977
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: the way, we're going to see some cost savings on

978
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: this as well, an incredible amount of expense allowing people

979
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: to come into polling places for nearly a month and

980
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 3: have those polling places open and staffed and secure them.

981
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 4: This is just on every level common sense.

982
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: Not only that, but why would Indiana be an outlier

983
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: with a month long early voting period. The change would

984
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: bring us closer to the norm.

985
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 4: Well, again, this was back.

986
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: A lot of these changes were instituted under Eric Holcombe

987
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: and during COVID when he pretty much abdicated any responsibility.

988
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: Have you surprised for any leadership on all issues?

989
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 4: He basically did.

990
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: Whatever the you know, you know, the people in the

991
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: House and the Senate in the state House wanted to do.

992
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 3: And these were policies that were pushed during COVID.

993
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 4: And they weren't right during COVID, But now that COVID's over,

994
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 4: they're certainly right now and it's well past time to

995
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 4: make these changes.

996
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: So this bill is not going to go to the

997
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 2: full Indiana Senate, and if it's passed and approved, the

998
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: shorter early voting period would take effect this spring. Okay,

999
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: So what are we doing with the penny? Are we

1000
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: rounding up? Are we rounding down something that your lawmakers

1001
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 2: are currently working on statewide rules for penny rounding because

1002
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: stores are running out of pennies, this after the US

1003
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: Mint has stopped making them.

1004
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: I talked about this when we did this story last year,

1005
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 3: and the US MINT said, hey, we're no longer doing pennies,

1006
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: We're no longer going to make pennies. They're eventually going

1007
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: to all go away, and I brought up the issue, well,

1008
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: what do you do now? Look, this is this is

1009
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 3: not a huge issue. You know, whether you're getting two

1010
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: cents in change or no change because of it. And

1011
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: the vast majority of transactions are done with credit cards

1012
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 3: and are done electronically. There's only a small percentage of

1013
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: transactions that are still done at retail locations with cash

1014
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: where this is the only issue.

1015
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 4: But it is an issue, And I.

1016
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 3: Don't know what the right answer is on this, other

1017
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: than I would it would just seem easier that if

1018
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: all retail outlets would just price things in even numbers.

1019
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: But then it gets screwed up because you got a

1020
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: seven percent tax. So they're going to have to do

1021
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: math on all of this and reverse engineer it and say, well,

1022
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 3: if I've got this price, not math, if I've got

1023
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 3: this priced item priced at twenty three dollars and the

1024
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: state sales tax is seven percent, and I do that,

1025
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 3: then I really need to price this at twenty three

1026
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 3: dollars and two cents so that the final price is

1027
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: an even five, so we don't worry about pennies. This

1028
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: is a problem, and I don't know what the answer

1029
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: and solution to it is.

1030
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: So what did the retailers say? Groups like the Indiana

1031
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 2: Retail Council and also the Indiana Chamber of Commerce. They

1032
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: want rounding to happen after the totals and tax are added,

1033
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: so it's fair and simpler at the checkout. They also

1034
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 2: want flexibility so businesses can round up or round down.

1035
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: See now that's where I have the issue. Make it consistent.

1036
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: Pick one. You're either going to round up or round down.

1037
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be just whatever the business wants.

1038
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 4: But that's part of the problem.

1039
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 3: Is what the government's put us in this position is

1040
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 3: that they eliminated the penny, but then gave no other

1041
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 3: legislation or details about how to manage this situation. And

1042
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: so it is going to be a free for all

1043
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: because right now there's no controlling authority on this. There's

1044
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 3: no government laws or regulations that say really anything associated

1045
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 3: with it.

1046
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 4: So it is going to be a free for all.

1047
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 4: It is going to be whatever that.

1048
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: Specific individual retailer decides to do. And I guarantee you

1049
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: that people are going to the people that pay with

1050
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 3: cash are going to put up a stink on this

1051
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: and we're going to have to figure something out. The

1052
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: other interesting part is, you know, we always talk about

1053
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: how fast things are changing and how previous generations. You

1054
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: talk to a kid today about a record player, and

1055
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: they're like, what are you talking about? What the heck's

1056
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 3: a record player? This means that to give a penny,

1057
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 3: take a penny, tray will become and is now obsolete,

1058
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 3: and it'll be a thing in the past, and twenty.

1059
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 4: Years from a nickel, Yeah, a nickel take it. Twenty

1060
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: years from now, we'll be telling our kids or grandkids

1061
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 4: about my day. There used to be a thing called

1062
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 4: give a penny, Take a penny, and you would leave change,

1063
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: and if you were short a couple of cents, you

1064
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 4: would grab it out of the grab it out of

1065
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 4: the little little bowl there and hand it over to

1066
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: the cashier. And they're gonna look at you and like,

1067
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 4: what are you talking about?

1068
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: What's a Penny, It's funny you mentioned the record player.

1069
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: We were with some family over the weekend and there

1070
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: were some gen zs there and there was a record

1071
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: player where we were staying. Actually had to teach a

1072
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 2: nephew how to drop the needle on the record.

1073
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1074
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 4: By the way, these were people in their late twenties.

1075
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were in their late twenties and they were

1076
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 3: and we had to explain how a record was a

1077
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: B side, right, that you flipped it over and that

1078
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: what the grooves meant. And they were like, well, how

1079
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 3: do you start it at the beginning, And I'm.

1080
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 4: Like, well, look, if you look carefully, you can see

1081
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: these little gaps in the grooves. That's each and the

1082
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 4: visual song, and if you want to skip ahead three songs,

1083
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 4: then you had to count three gaps in and then

1084
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 4: put the needle on the record player there. They were

1085
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 4: absolutely dumbfounded by it.

1086
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 2: Well, and then they thought it was kind of cool

1087
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: because they were playing with it. Later on, it sounded terrible,

1088
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: by the way, that was a bad needle.

1089
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: I think that was the other part we had to

1090
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: explain to these these people that were in their late

1091
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: twenties that, yeah, yeah, records were a problem because they

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Speaker 1: would get dust and they would get scratches on them,

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00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: and then the needle would skip and it would sound.

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00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: Like this, And they're like, well, well that's the why

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00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: would you want that?

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00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: Why would you This sounds terrible. I'm like, yeah, it

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00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 4: wasn't great.

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Speaker 3: That's why we got cassette tapes and CDs and now.

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00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: M B three. No, everything's digital. So the proposed penny

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00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: rounding rules, they're scheduled for more discussion and votes in

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00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: the Indiana House, and if passed new rules, whatever they

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00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: decide will take a fact in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a little bit of a prediction here.

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00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 3: What's that this Whatever they decide, it'll end up screwing

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00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: the consumer. Here's what I'm I'm gonna guess on this

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00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 3: course they will. They'll the state legislature.

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Speaker 4: Are round up. If it doesn't happen in this state.

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Speaker 3: Not only are they gonna round up, but they're gonna

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00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: find a way to get that round up money for themselves.

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00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 4: Who gets the round up? Is it the retailer? I'm

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00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 4: gonna guess it's gonna go and it's gonna be the state.

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00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: Well, because down at the register will cost the state

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00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: one point eight million dollars so in in sales tax revenue.

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00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: So of course they're gonna round up.

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00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: They're gonna round up. So not only will they get

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00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 3: the extra sales tax revenue on the round up, but

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00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess they're gonna try and find a way

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00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: to that those extra couple of pennies end up in

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Speaker 3: the state coffers as opposed to somebody else's also.

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Speaker 2: Known as a surplus, which we've got one right now.

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00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 7: Great Financial Love. It is so low inflation, very low. Inflation,

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00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 7: prices down way down. Yes, lad is less than two

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Speaker 7: dollars at many places gallon, which nobody expected to see

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Speaker 7: what I did.

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00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: Donald Trump on Air Force one on President's Day, he's

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00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: talking about the economy and he goes on to say

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00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: that we inherited a mess and we've brought our country

1130
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: back very very powerfully. Doesn't every administration at some point

1131
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: say they inherited chaos and that they fixed everything. The

1132
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: real verdict comes from voters and data, not speeches on

1133
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: President's Day or on Air Force one. But we're not Yeah,

1134
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: we've seen inflation come down we're seeing some prices come down,

1135
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: but the real challenge is that wages are still not

1136
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: rising and that's the problem.

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00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're right, every administration does this, ah Man.

1138
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: Things were tough when I came into office. I didn't

1139
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: I didn't know how we were gonna make it. I

1140
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: didn't think we were going to fix it after a while.

1141
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 3: But through a lot of hard work, through my administration

1142
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 3: and with my administer and with my leadership, we have

1143
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: come out and we have prevailed. Yes, every president since

1144
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: the dawn of time has talked like that, and Trump

1145
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: is no different than this specific case. And look, Trump's

1146
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 3: had some wins and he's also had some big losses.

1147
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 4: Look, the Epstein.

1148
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: Situation that we've been talking about for months now not

1149
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 3: a win for Donald Trump because he has come across

1150
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 3: and has the appearance of an obstructionist as it related

1151
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 3: to this, or certainly at the very least, not willing

1152
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: to push for full transparency.

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00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 4: As it relates to that.

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00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: Yes, the unaffilled affordability of daily life for average Americans,

1155
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 3: that's a big one, and that's one that he ran on.

1156
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: And you're exactly right. While the rate of inflation has

1157
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: come under control, prices haven't gone down. And a little

1158
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 3: pro tip for you here and a spoiler alert, prices

1159
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: aren't gonna come down. That's not the way it works.

1160
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: The only way we get out of this is for

1161
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: wages to go up. That hasn't been the case. But

1162
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: Trump has done some great things. Look, his foreign policy

1163
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: has been pretty spot on. Everybody thought that the tariffs,

1164
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 3: and I look, I think the jury's still out on

1165
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 3: the long term issue with the tariffs. But would people

1166
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: were saying in April of the last year was that

1167
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 3: this is going to be a disaster. You'll see immediate

1168
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: inflation rising across the board and massive increases to American consumers.

1169
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 3: You really haven't seen that. And Trump has been one

1170
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: spectacular on the border. He absolutely shut that border down

1171
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: and is in the process of deporting as many illegal

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Speaker 3: aliens as we can.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but you.

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Speaker 2: Still have groceries and other services, your everyday articles of

1175
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: clothing for daily living, your utility costs, rent housing is

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01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: all too expensive still. And if that's not going to

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Speaker 2: come down, wages need to go up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what this is going to be the

1179
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 3: big challenge for the Republicans this fall, because you can

1180
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 3: talk about foreign policy wins, and you can talk about

1181
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 3: shutting down the border and those things are all nice,

1182
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, it all comes

1183
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: down to the economy and how the average American is doing.

1184
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: And right now, the average American not doing so great.

1185
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: Housing prices are out of control, taxes, especially property taxes,

1186
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: are out of control. What is happening with utility bills

1187
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 3: is just spiraling everywhere and there's no end in sight

1188
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 3: for that. What's happening with health insurance costs and general

1189
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 3: doctor bills is out of control for most Americans.

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01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 4: And Donald Trump.

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01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 3: Ran on fixing all of that, and so far he

1192
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: hasn't been able to do much. And that's going to

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01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 3: be the big question come this November twenty twenty six

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01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 3: with the midterms.

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Speaker 2: There was a new survey that came out and they

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01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: were specifically asking women over the age of fifty, and

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01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: it showed the older women they're worried about the economy,

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01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: and in fact, they say that they expect the economy

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01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: to get worse in the next year and only about

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01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: thirty one percent expected to improve. And this is a

1201
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: larger group than men. Older women feel less financially secure

1202
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: than they did a year ago. That is a big

1203
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: voting block.

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01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 3: Well, it's the biggest and it's the most reliable voting block.

1205
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: Elderly women absolutely shows.

1206
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: Say women over fifty or elderly older women.

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01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 4: There's a lot of things I could have said, the

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01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 4: AARP group of females. Yes, older women.

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01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: Older women are normally very decisive when it comes to elections.

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01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: They know what they're going to do before they get

1211
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 2: in there.

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01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 4: Well, and they show up.

1213
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,959
Speaker 3: They show up in a greater percentage than any other

1214
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: voting block, and so they're super important. And it's what

1215
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: we just talked about here. Look, this is a block

1216
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,959
Speaker 3: that voted for Donald Trump. Supported Donald Trump. He ran

1217
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 3: on getting the cost of day to day life under control.

1218
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 3: And look the Republicans and Trump will say, hey, you know,

1219
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 3: eggs aren't seven dollars a dozen anymore, and gas is cheaper.

1220
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 4: Than it is Underbiden. And look, I agree with that.

1221
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 3: We're not talking about individual items. Those are always going

1222
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 3: to fluctuate. We're talking about the overall cost of living

1223
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 3: in this country. Utility bills, property taxes, housing, health insurance,

1224
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: all of those things are out of control, and those

1225
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 3: hit the pocketbook a lot more than seven dollars eggs.

1226
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: Well, what candidates have to do is going to have

1227
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: to start tailoring this message on economic issues to that

1228
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: exact group, because when older women feel uneasy about the economy,

1229
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: it isn't warning to Republicans America's economic message. It needs

1230
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: to be clear and it needs to be strong if

1231
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 2: they want to get that crucial midterm voter.

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01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 3: And they do, and the Democrats have to do their

1233
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 3: job too. I mean, I don't know what their message

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01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 3: is going to be in these twenty twenty eighties. They

1235
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: even know they well, they know exactly what their message

1236
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: has been up until this point, and that is oppose

1237
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 3: everything Donald Trump is for everything is Trump arrangement syndrome.

1238
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to be opposed to everything Donald Trump does.

1239
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 3: And I think Americans are probably going to expect a

1240
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 3: little bit more specificity on details and a little bit

1241
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: more plan in place from the Democrats going into these

1242
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six elections than what we've seen from them

1243
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: so far.

1244
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: Well, it does show that economics still drives elections, and

1245
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: even you can have a really clear message, but if

1246
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: it's not in lockstep with what is really going on,

1247
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: people are gonna call bs.

1248
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 4: It's so funny that you know.

1249
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 3: It was James Carvill famously who is running Bill Clinton's

1250
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: campaign in nineteen ninety two that coined the phrase it's

1251
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 3: the economy stupid. And here we are more than thirty

1252
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 3: years later, and that political statement as as true as

1253
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 3: it has ever been. It's the economy stupid. And if

1254
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: the Republicans can't get to a point where life is

1255
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 3: more affordable for Americans, they are in big, big danger.

1256
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and they need to focus on real cost

1257
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 2: of living concerns instead of slogans too, because people aren't

1258
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: gonna buy it, especially a more discerning fifty plus woman.

1259
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 2: She'd been there, she'd been she's seen that game.

1260
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 4: Well, and we all know, you know it's it's just

1261
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 4: not gonna be gased.

1262
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 3: It's the same old line, don't piss on my leg

1263
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: and tell me it's raining. And that's what Biden did

1264
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: when he sat there and said inflation is transitory and

1265
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 3: the border is under control. And the American people said,

1266
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: you're full of crap. We don't believe a thing you say,

1267
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 3: and they punished him, and the Democrats lost horrendously in

1268
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. And if the Republicans tried that same

1269
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: crappy political playbook by sitting.

1270
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 4: Here and say well, gas is cheaper and eggs are cheaper.

1271
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 3: And people are looking at a four hundred dollars electric

1272
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: bill going, yeah, I can buy a lot of seven

1273
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 3: dollars eggs for this four hundred dollars electrical bill. I'm

1274
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 3: getting screwed here. Yeah, my eggs are back to three dollars,

1275
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 3: but I'm paying three times more for my electric bill

1276
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 3: every month, and my property taxes are out of control,

1277
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 3: and the rent is up and the cost of housing

1278
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 3: is out of control. If that's the Republican's message, they

1279
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 3: are in for a massive defeat in twenty Twell, yeah.

1280
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: Because that's great. I can scramble some eggs.

1281
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 3: I just don't have a kitchen that I can scramble

1282
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 3: them in, right, I can't afford to turn my electric

1283
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: my house.

1284
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 4: I can't afford to turn my electric stove on to

1285
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 4: cook those eggs. You're exactly right.

1286
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: Speaking of rising breakfast costs, hotels are now cutting free

1287
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 2: breakfast from their night's day. You know, you go to

1288
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 2: a hotel and you get that complimentary breakfast. It's normally

1289
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: a stale, dry muffin and some powdered running eggs. A

1290
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: lot of hotel chains are cutting that out.

1291
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, what are we really losing here?

1292
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: If you've been to a free breakfast at a hotel,

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01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 3: let's say, like a Holiday Inn or a Hampton Inn

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01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: and the free breakfast, if you haven't been recently, let

1295
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 3: me tell you what you're looking at.

1296
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 4: You're looking at some oatmeal that you.

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01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 3: Wouldn't touch if somebody gave you a hundred bucks to

1298
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: eat it.

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01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: You wouldn't eat that.

1300
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: You see some dry cereal, couple of brown bananas, and

1301
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 3: some bread.

1302
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 4: And some toast. Are we really losing much with the

1303
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 4: crappy free breakfast at most of these hotels? The vast

1304
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 4: majority of them, they are not good.

1305
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some hotels now breakfast is becoming an optional

1306
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: thing and it's only included in the higher price rooms

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Speaker 2: or your loyalty status, if your Diamond level or Gold

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Speaker 2: level or Platinum level. And instead they're replacing this with

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Speaker 2: credits or points rather than a free meal. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what the points are going to do for you.

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Speaker 2: I guess you get those towards your next day.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think this is the hotel admitting that the

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Speaker 3: their free breakfasts are kind of crappy and aren't very good.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's because of higher costs for food

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Speaker 2: and labor, agreed.

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Speaker 3: But I think that if the breakfast were good, I

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Speaker 3: think people would probably see the value in that and say, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I won't take a credit on this, or I won't

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Speaker 3: take points in exchange for this. But because the breakfast

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Speaker 3: is so bad, they're like, yeah'll take anything if you're

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Speaker 3: gonna give me anything in return. Take three dollars off

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Speaker 3: of my bill, or give me five hundred hotel points

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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: Fine, I'm happy getting that, and I'll go down the

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Speaker 3: street and pay four dollars for an egg McMuffin and

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Speaker 3: have breakfast that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of hotels are now starting to give

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Speaker 2: you a lower room only rate, which doesn't include breakfast.

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Speaker 2: I'd sign up for that all day long.

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Speaker 4: Right again, lost of the hotel.

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Speaker 2: Room, because let's be honest, I'm just there for the

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Speaker 2: bed in the shower as I move on my way, exactly,

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Speaker 2: and I'll take care of breakfast on my own exactly.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what a lot of people are doing.

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Speaker 3: So I don't you see a lot of people in

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Speaker 3: consumer groups that are upset about this. All hotels are

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Speaker 3: cutting back on the free Continental breakfast.

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Speaker 8: Eh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really wasn't very good anyway. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to sit here and eat a four day old brown

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Speaker 3: banana and pretend like I like it or I'm getting

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Speaker 3: some sort of value out of it.

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Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie posted a new video to social media over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. She was pleading for her mother's abductor to

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Speaker 2: do the right thing.

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Speaker 11: And I wanted to say to whoever has her or

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Speaker 11: knows where she is, but it's never too late, and

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Speaker 11: you're not lost or alone, and it is never too

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Speaker 11: late to do the right thing.

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Speaker 2: So she posted that video on Sunday night, two weeks

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Speaker 2: after her mom disappeared. The Today's Show has been opening

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Speaker 2: every new segment for the past two weeks with this story.

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Speaker 2: I understand it. She's one of their main hosts. I

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Speaker 2: have Guthrie fatigue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's no surprise.

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Speaker 3: This has been, you know, the top story on most

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Speaker 3: news outlets for what are we going now?

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Speaker 4: Three weeks now? I think we're into on this, and.

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Speaker 3: The American public only has so much attention for things,

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Speaker 3: especially when we're not getting resolution and we're not getting

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Speaker 3: a whole lot of what seems to be movement on this. Now,

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Speaker 3: there were some things and they found a couple of

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Speaker 3: gloves and they sent it in for a DNA test,

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Speaker 3: and I think they have a suspect identified. And the

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Speaker 3: you know, Pima County Sheriff's Department came out yesterday and

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Speaker 3: essentially cleared all of the Guthrie family members. There was

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Speaker 3: a lot of speculation that it might have been, you know,

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Speaker 3: a family member might have been involved in this, but

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Speaker 3: the Sheriff's office has cleared that. There just has not

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Speaker 3: been much movement. And I think the American public can

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Speaker 3: only you only hold the American public's attention for so

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Speaker 3: long and then we're going to move on to other things.

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Speaker 3: And it seems to be like that we're getting to

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Speaker 3: the end of our attention span with the Savannah Guthrie case.

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Speaker 2: She h. She did look very worn down and tired

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Speaker 2: in that video. She looked like somebody who had been

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Speaker 2: crying a lot and that and it is heartbreaking for her.

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Speaker 2: But just the non stop coverage.

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Speaker 3: Of this, uh, it's it's been You do feel for

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Speaker 3: the family member, yeah, and that's been really difficult and

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Speaker 3: and this is you know, certainly captured the nation's attention,

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Speaker 3: which is why we've been talking about it. You know,

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01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 3: there's a reason why a lot of these news outlets

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Speaker 3: are leading with this story.

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Speaker 4: It's because people are very, very interested in it.

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Speaker 3: And and yeah, you do feel horrible for the family,

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Speaker 3: and and and but but from the family's perspective, I

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Speaker 3: think it's in their best interests and probably in the

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Speaker 3: best interest of catching the people that perpetrated this crime,

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Speaker 3: to keep this story front and center.

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Speaker 4: So I think, you know, that's their strategy.

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Speaker 3: I think that is that's that's the family strategy, and

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01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 3: it's police strategy. The more this story stays in the headlines,

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 3: the more tips they're going to get, the more information

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Speaker 3: they're going to receive, and the more likely that we're

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Speaker 3: going to get some sort of resolution on this case.

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Speaker 3: So it's this double edged sword and you kind of

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Speaker 3: go back and forth on it. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: that this may be the week that we start to

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Speaker 3: see a bit of a ramping down of the Savannah

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Speaker 3: Guthrie and Nancy Guthrie coverage in the media.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three it is WIBC. There are

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Speaker 2: definitely money and lifestyle changes that come with running for office,

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: and he's given some vague speculation about whether he's running

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Speaker 2: or not, but Stephen A. Smith wants to put his

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Speaker 2: opinions out there if he were president.

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Speaker 4: So if you're thinking, well, who the heck is Stephen A. Smith.

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Speaker 4: So here's some background on Steven A. Smith.

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Speaker 3: Was an ESPN commentator in analysts for a lot of time.

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Speaker 3: For a long time, had a very popular show on ESPN.

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Speaker 3: Still does have a popular show on ESPN, but in

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Speaker 3: the last couple of years has really moved more into

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Speaker 3: the political realm and outside of ESPN, he has a

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Speaker 3: daily show that he does where he talks a lot

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Speaker 3: about politics, and this has kind of surprised a lot

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01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 3: of people, and he's had some takes that you would

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Speaker 3: think because you would think, I mean, ESPN, it's no

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Speaker 3: secret bunch of liberals at ESPN, it's part of Disney,

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Speaker 3: and so you would think that he would have this

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Speaker 3: liberal political opinion, and he does have plenty of liberal

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Speaker 3: political opinions, but he actually is, you know, runs counter

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Speaker 3: to most traditional liberal opinions on a lot of other

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Speaker 3: topics as well, and that's what's really garnering him some

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01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 3: attention whenever when you've got somebody like John Fetterman, who

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Speaker 3: is you know, you know, is a Democrat and a liberal,

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Speaker 3: but then he comes out and he supports Israel and

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Speaker 3: he you know, doesn't trash Donald Trump. At every turn,

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01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 3: people's ears perk up and they're like, oh, hey, this

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Speaker 3: is this is a little bit different than what we're

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Speaker 3: used to.

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Speaker 4: It's the same thing with Stephen A. Smith.

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Speaker 3: You expect him to come out with all these liberal positions,

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01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 3: but then when he comes out and has good things

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01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 3: to say about Donald Trump or support some things that

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Speaker 3: the Republicans are saying, you go, oh, that's not what

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Speaker 3: I expected. And I think he's using that to get

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Speaker 3: himself a lot of attention.

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Speaker 2: Right Well, he has said that he doesn't really want

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01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: to be a politician, but he would run in order

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01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 2: to debate and challenge current leaders. He was on CBS

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning, and here's a few things that he had

1443
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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 14: Make no mistake about it. We wouldn't have a border

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01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 14: crisis under my watch. Hell no, we wouldn't have this

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01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 14: crime that exists in the streets of New York. You

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01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 14: wouldn't hear about me saying defund the police. We ain't

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 14: defunding any police. I'm calling nine one one when there's

1449
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 14: a problem. I know you're calling nine one one when

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01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 14: there's a problem. I'll be damned if I'm going to

1451
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 14: have less police officers out there.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be more.

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01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: There's gonna be more. That's me. So he's not into

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01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: the defund movement at all.

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01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, which is typical.

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01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 3: You know, keep in mind he comes from ESPN, where

1457
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 3: you had ESPN anchors that were publicly pushing defund the

1458
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 3: police on all their social media channels. That's not Stephen A.

1459
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 4: Smith. But let's be serious.

1460
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 3: You know, he's doing this to garner attention for himself

1461
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 3: and his shows, whether he's a serious candidate or not

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01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 3: as yet to be remain to be c.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three. It is w ib C.