1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Line from Ball Heartland and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. When an NFL. 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Team is considering the idea of moving from one place 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: to another, it's national news. It just is because as 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: much as we might decry what it costs to build 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: a stadium and why are the people on the hook 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: and the tax increase here in the hospitality tax there 8 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: pro teams define cities and the truth is, cities love it. 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: The people who live in the cities love it. It's 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: that part is not really any level of debate. Tony Katz. 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: Tony Kats say, good to be here, good to be 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: with you. And there's a couple of things going on 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL regarding this exact thing. You've got the 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Paul Allen estate that is looking to sell the Seattle Seahawks, 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: which is kind of crazy. They just won a Super Bowl. 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Paul Allen passed away in twenty eighteen, and so now they're. 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: Going down this road. 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: Lord only knows what this team is now worth now 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: that they've got a Super Bowl, another Super Bowl championship 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: under their belt. And then the story that's been consuming 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: the Midwest is the idea of the Chicago Bears moving 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: to a place called Hammond, Indiana, which took a. 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: Huge step forward today. 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: Massive they've been trying to create a better deal with Illinois, 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: try to move to Arlington Heights. Illinois has basically said, yeah, 26 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: we'll get to when we get to it. And the 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: Bears said, all. 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: Right, we'll call your bluff. 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: Hey, Indiana, what do you think in Indiana to their credit, 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: said what, we think a lot of things. 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: Here we go and they didn't give up the farm. 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: And these cities have been putting out their own plans 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: fighting for it, and today the Chicago Bears put out 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: a statement saying that after the State of Indiana pasta 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: a piece of legislation center Field twenty seven, the Bear said, quote, 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: we are committed to finishing the remaining site specific necessary 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: due diligence to support our vision to build a world 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: class stadium near the Wolf Lake area in Hammond, Indiana. 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: This is not a fatal company, it's. 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: Not a done deal, but holy cow, that's a step forward. 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: JMV joins me right now. 42 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: He is the voice of sports in Indiana ninety three 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: five one oh seven five the Fan, one of the 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: top twenty afternoon sports hosts in America. This is nutty. 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: If you live in Indiana, it's a nutty year. Possibly, 46 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: if you live in Chicago, you're a you're a fan, 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: right You're you're a Bears fan. Do you care where 48 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: this team actually plays? 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: I would think that most, especially those up in the 50 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 3: northern suburbs, were a lot of that money lie I 51 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: probably would have an issue with it because they like 52 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: going to games and it's going to make the process 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: of getting there a little bit more. And those that 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: think that we are here in the state of Indiana 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: hillbilly state, regardless of where we're located in this state, 56 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: and you don't want to be a part of that, 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: and you're Illinois and you're above it all, there are 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: going to be some of those fans that are going 59 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: to feel that way, I'm assuming, but this just seems 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: like a badminton match between the state of Illinois and 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: the Bears right now, where the Bears are getting this 62 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: deal from Indiana. And it's funny. I thought about this, Tony, 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: and this would be a great question for you because 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: you're so deeply rooted in politics and very smart and 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: savvy about this. I know, going back with the Colts, 66 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: you just simply don't want to be running the state 67 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: or part of running the state and losing an NFL team, 68 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: especially then and absolutely magnified now. And I'm assuming that 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: if you're in the state of Indiana, you're looking at it. 70 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: If you're Mike Moron, you don't want to lose this opportunity, 71 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: even if it is up and much close to Chicago. 72 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: And if you're Illinois, you want to be you know, 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: the the the leaders of that state right now and 74 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: lose the Bears to a different state. And I just 75 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: think that's what the NFL means to the political ramifications 76 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: of both Indiana and Illinois and really throughout the United States. 77 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 3: Just how mammoth that is right now where you know, 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: you go to these lengths to get it, even if 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: it's not you know, down here with us, and you 80 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: already have one in the Colts, but you also don't 81 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: want to lose that opportunity. If you're Indiana, you did 82 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: in the past of the Colts, you don't right now. 83 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: I'm assuming with the Bears, and you know, now Illinois 84 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: is count of the Illinois is kind of on the 85 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: path in this case to maybe lose it. So I 86 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: just don't think you ever want to be a part 87 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: of that leadership in your state to lose something. So 88 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: Mammoth as an NFL franchise. 89 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: And we should be clear, it is Mammoth, and there 90 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: is I think a hit that takes place. And that's 91 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: why when I look at this possibility of a move, 92 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: the NFL is protective. 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: Man. 94 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 1: The NFL doesn't want players taking their helmets off because 95 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: it's not about the player, it's about the NFL. And 96 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: so does a move does that do they concern themselves 97 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: with how this affects the brand or do they say, hey, 98 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: this is a great financial opportunity, and new stadiums always 99 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: bring about more opportunity, go for it, and maybe it 100 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: don't encourage even more stadium growth to take place in 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: the country. 102 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny too, because most of new stadiums Tony 103 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: end up getting a super Bowl. That's part of the criteria. 104 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: We saw that here when Lucas Royle Stadium was built 105 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: not very long after, Indianapolis got what many people thought 106 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: would never happen, a super Bowl here. It's probably one 107 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: and done here. But now instead of Indiana, it's going 108 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: to have the opportunity to probably at some point in time. 109 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: Assuming this is going to be a close stadium. I 110 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: don't really know what the looks of the stadium is 111 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: going to look like at wolf Lake up there, but 112 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 3: I'm assuming it's going to be something that's going to 113 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: have a retractable roof, so ultimately the area can host 114 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: a super Bowl. That is all also something that's going 115 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: to come down the road too, because most of these 116 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: new stadiums, if not old Tony, of these new stadiums 117 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: that are built, are going to come equipped with the 118 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: option of hosting a super Bowl, which all would want 119 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: at some point, and I'm assuming this would be the 120 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: case in with West Indiana too. 121 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: Talking to JMV he is the voice of sports in 122 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Indiana ninety three five one seventy five the fan. Certainly, 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: I have not heard from any Bears players about this, 124 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: because this is still. 125 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: A little bit in the ether. 126 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: Anybody anybody saying anything, anybody popping off anywhere, any cryptic 127 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: Instagram kind of posts about the movie. 128 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: I do wonder, Tony, you and I had thought about 129 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: this before. I kind of wonder how carly ERSA. Gordon 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: and ownership of the Colts feel about this. You'll feel 131 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: about you know, the government of the state of Indiana 132 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: being so flirtatious, if that's a good word. With this 133 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: in mind, with a competing NFL team like I do 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: kind of wonder. I don't know for sure. I can 135 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: only guess it probably doesn't make them feel what great. 136 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: But I will say this, Tony, You've had for a 137 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: long period of time in Easter rup for New Jersey, 138 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: both the Jets and the Giants being a part of that, 139 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: and of course they're New York franchises in New Jersey. 140 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: I know this is not all the same here, but 141 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: this is not unprecedented territory. It just is. Considering it's 142 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: the state of Indiana versus the state of Illinois. I 143 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: think we all know this to be true. Those in 144 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: the state of Illinois look like and feel like they're 145 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: so much further above what we are in the state 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: of Indiana. I think that's probably why this hits home 147 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: and burns a little bit more than anything else, Because 148 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: folks in Illinois are saying, Wow, you're going to lose 149 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: our NFL franchise, our historic NFL franchise, the Bears to 150 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: the state of Indiana. That's probably tough for them to compartmentalize, 151 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: right now Tony, to be quite honest, but there's probably 152 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: more ego than I guess anything else. But ultimately, when 153 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: it gets built and if you have a lot more options, 154 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: and for some that are Bears fans Tony, it's going 155 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: to be a lot easier to get there. It's just 156 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: not going to be for the northern suburbs I'm assuming 157 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: of Chicago where all the wealth is. But you're going 158 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: to see a growth in northwest Indiana, you know, in 159 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: and around him and I'm assuming you're thinking about the 160 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: players and those that work in the organization are probably 161 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: going to want to live in and around that area 162 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: and not have to commute, you know, from the northern 163 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: suburbs of Chicago. So it's going to meet a lot 164 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: for that particular area. And I'm sure that's exactly how 165 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: Indiana leadership right now government are looking at it. An 166 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: opportunity that is there, even if it doesn't directly involve 167 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: us here in central Indiana. You know, that's something that 168 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: is probably going to be worthy of discussion for years 169 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: to come. As far as you know, Mike Brown and 170 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 3: his legacy and those lawmakers and their legacy are in 171 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: the state of Indiana. 172 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: Talking to JMV. 173 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: He is the voice of sports in Indiana ninety three 174 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: five one A seven to five and the fan. Let's 175 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: let's move it off of this possible move and let's 176 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: move it into the NBA where we have the All 177 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: Star break has come and gone, and now we have 178 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: a second half of a season to take a look at. 179 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: Who are the contenders. 180 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: Who has the opportunity to be seen once again in 181 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'm going to assume we're going to see 182 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Oklahoma back in those playoffs. Who else are you looking at? 183 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 3: Well, one of your favorite films, if I believe, is 184 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: The Usual Suspects right from the nineteen nineties, and this 185 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: is kind of like the Usual Suspects right here. You 186 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: look at Okay see for sure, you know Houston is 187 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: going to be in the mix out there, Denver and 188 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: Jokich will be in the mix out out west, and 189 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: you know you're going to have here New York Knicks 190 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: Boston even without Jason Tatum's having a really good season, 191 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: so you know the Celtics are going to be there 192 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: as well. And really a rebirth of sorts of a 193 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: franchise that went back to back in the late eighties 194 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: early nineties, the Detroit Pistons. They're a team that's going 195 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: to be right there. And you have the Pacers that 196 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: are going to be waiting, waiting until next year, waiting 197 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: until Mother's Day. I I doubt whether they're going to 198 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: be in this draft lottery and whether or not they're 199 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: going to be able to select one through four, which 200 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: I think is essential to making that trade deadline deal 201 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: be the best it absolutely can be. But there's a 202 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: little bit of change of pace in the East. But 203 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: that mixed team is probably the one you're going to 204 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: look at because this should be their year, coming off 205 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: back to back disappointments and especially what they would just 206 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: a year ago being eliminated by the Pacers in the 207 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: Eastern Conference finals. You would have to think that the 208 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: Knicks and their fans believe this is their year in 209 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference, and okay, see, it's just reloading with 210 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: what they have once again. It almost feels like at 211 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: times a foregone conclusion. Unless Victor Liminama and the San 212 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: Antonio Spurs take even more of a major jump with 213 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: that unicorn type of talent in San Antonio, that's going 214 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: to be worth watching out west too. 215 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: Tony so we. 216 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: Look at the you don't see anybody who has an 217 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: opportunity to rise up. You don't see anybody who's been 218 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: playing kind of middling ball. I'm not talking about my 219 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. I'm talking about teams that I actually have 220 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: a chance. 221 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Charlotte would probably be described a little bit. I'm 222 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: not a really believer in Charlotte, Tony, but I think 223 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: in terms of you know what you saw, you know 224 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: this kind of quick rise and a lot of good 225 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: fortune that the Pacers went through the postseason, I think 226 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: that Charlotte is one of those teams that you could 227 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: probably eyeball a little bit and think that they could 228 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: have a little bit once if they set themselves up 229 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: in the postseason. I think some of the disappointments and 230 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. Cleveland's going to be interesting to watch, Tony, 231 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 3: because you bring in James Harden and you finish, you're 232 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: going to raise the bar a little bit after the 233 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: disappointment of. 234 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: A year ago. 235 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: And really they've had a lot of disappointment this season, 236 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: but that just seems like they're trying to piece some 237 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: things together right now out of desperation. I think the 238 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 3: way that you look around the Eastern Conference right now, 239 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: you have more of Detroit that is set. You feel 240 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: good about that. The knicks that are set, you feel 241 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: good about that. And even to a degree without Jason Tatum, 242 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: you feel good about to sell they But if there's 243 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: going to be one team that your eyeball in the 244 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: Eastern Conference that maybe we haven't talked about in a 245 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: long time since the days of Alonzo Morning and Larry 246 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: Johnson would probably be that of the Charlotte Hornets making 247 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 3: a move being a surprise in the Eastern Conference postseason 248 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: picture this year. 249 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: JMV the voice of sports in Indiana and around the nation. 250 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: I take the time to be with us. Morris coming up. 251 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats today. So the 252 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: Board of Peace met today. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today. 253 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: Good to be with you and President Trump speaking to 254 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: the crowd assembled on how they're going to rebuild Gaza 255 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: the other countries. 256 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: Because we have a large group of leaders than the 257 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 4: ones that aren't here are watching on zoom. 258 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 5: I hope they enjoy it. 259 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: And the press we appreciated very much, so respectful and 260 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: that you've been so respectful of what we're doing. 261 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 5: What we're doing is it's. 262 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: Very simple peace. 263 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: It's called the Border Piece, and it's all about an 264 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 4: easy word to say, but a hard word to produce peace. 265 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: But we're going to produce it. And we've been doing 266 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: a really good job. And some of these leaders that 267 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 4: are with us have helped me very much during just 268 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: this first year. We have a first year like probably 269 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: no other ever in our country because we settled eight 270 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: wars and I think a night to come. It's turned 271 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 4: out to be a tougher one. I thought that was 272 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: going to be the easiest one, but with war, you'd 273 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: never know what's easy and what's not so easy. But 274 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: we've had a great relationship and I've become friendly with 275 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: so many of the people, and I appreciate you being here. 276 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: These are great people, These are great leaders, and the 277 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: people that are watching by closed circuit and open circuit. 278 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: In many cases they're so proud of it they want 279 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 5: it to be open. 280 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 4: But they become incredible friends of mine. And you know, 281 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: we built our country in my first term, and now 282 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 4: we're at a point that the United States has never 283 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: seen before. We broke fifty thousand on the Dow. They 284 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: said that would take four years. We broke seven thousand 285 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: on the S and P. They said you couldn't do 286 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,359 Speaker 4: that within four years, it would be impossible. 287 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 5: And when I came in, they were all saying. 288 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: If you could get to anywhere close to forty forty 289 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: five thousand. 290 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: It would be amazing achievement over four years. 291 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: Well, we hit fifty thousand in the first year, and 292 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: we hit seven thousand, which was actually tougher to do. 293 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: According to the Wall Street geniuses, we hit seven thousand 294 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: in the first year. They said it could take four 295 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: or five years. They'd be very happy. It would have 296 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: been a great job. We did it in one. But 297 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: we're doing We're doing a great job. Border piece is 298 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: one of the most important and consequential things I think 299 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: that I'll be involved in. We've been involved in a lot, 300 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: and I've been involved in a lot with the people 301 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: up here. We work together on ending wars with their country. 302 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: Some of the wars were thirty two years long, thirty two, 303 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: thirty four and a thirty seven. 304 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 5: That's a long time and we ended it in about 305 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 5: two days each one of those. 306 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: But we have some. 307 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: Other work to do and we're getting it done. Gaza 308 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: is very complex. It's been amazing, but we have some 309 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: other work to do, and we're getting it done. 310 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 5: Gaza. 311 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: Is that wasn't you The audio just repeated. It's a 312 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: worthy reminder at this moment that here's Trump with these people. 313 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: They put in five billion dollars, they're going to do more. 314 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: What is the UN done? How is it that the 315 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: UN was not able to do anything but Trump did. 316 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: This is something else that I think needs to be 317 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: discussed by the Republican Party while this is happening. 318 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: Iran was named. 319 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: Vice chair of the UN body promoting Democracy in Women's Rights. 320 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: This is a real thing that happened. Rano was elected 321 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: as Vice Chair of the United Nations Commission for Social Development. 322 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: The UN has no value to us whatsoever, none less 323 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: than none. We're kidding ourselves. We should stop giving them money. 324 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: But if we can control how things happen in Gaza, 325 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: keep the terrorists out, and allow these people to thrive 326 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: and create something of beauty where there's trade and peace 327 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: in the region, aren't we all better off. I don't 328 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: know if it's gonna work. I know that everything the 329 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: UN did didn't work, except, of course, if you think 330 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: that the UN supporting terrorists as UNRA and other organizations 331 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: supported HAMAS, but that if you consider that working within Yes, 332 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: the UN's a success, but rational people, normal people. 333 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: Like us, think it's a failure. It's a failure, and 334 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: that's one of the things Trump has really shown. 335 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 5: Very complex. It's been amazing. 336 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: I want to thank Steve and Jared for an amazing job. 337 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: Marco's over there watching. Everybody's fantastic and JD what a 338 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: job they are all doing this a team. I think 339 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: it's the best team ever assembled, and you see that 340 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: by the results. So today is a tremendous honor to 341 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 4: welcome you all to the United States Institute of Peace 342 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: for the inaugural meeting of the Board of Peace. 343 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 5: Very important. 344 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: I believe it's the most consequential board, certainly in terms 345 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: of power and in terms of prestige. There's never been 346 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: anything close. Because these are the greatest world leaders. Almost 347 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: everybody's accepted and the ones that haven't will be. 348 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 5: Some are playing a little cute. 349 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: It doesn't work. You can't play cute with me. But 350 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: they're playing a little bit. But they're all. They're all 351 00:17:54,359 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: joining everybody, most of them very immediately. A few that 352 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 4: we really don't want because they're trouble take care of them. 353 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 4: But this is the most prestigious board ever put together. 354 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 4: You know, I've seen some great corporate boards. I've seen 355 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 4: some great boards, period. It's peanuts compared to this sport 356 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: because we have virtually everyone is the head of a 357 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 4: country other than Johnny, but he's the head of soccer. 358 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: So that's not so bad, right, Johnny? 359 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 5: I like you. You haveb the best, I think. 360 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: And by the way, your World Cup has set every 361 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: single ticket record in the history of soccer, in the history, 362 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: nobody's ever seen anything like it. The sales are virtually complete. 363 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 4: Nobody's ever seen anything. So congratulations, you made a good decision. 364 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: He's talking about World Cup coming to the United States. 365 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't change for anything, he doesn't. But these are 366 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: the kinds of things that they need to aggressively talk 367 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: about as valuable and why you should keep voting for 368 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Republicans because this is the kind of stuff that you get. 369 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: You get opportunities for peace. If you vote for Democrats, 370 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: you get opportunities for fraud. They won't even vote for 371 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: voter ID, they won't even vote to help reduce or 372 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: eliminate the possibility of fraud. This is what comes from 373 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: this border piece. 374 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 375 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 2: You can't answer that question. 376 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: I hope good things, but is there any question that 377 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: this is better than anything the UN could do? 378 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: Yes, And what it should make us say is maybe 379 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: our time. 380 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: With the UN is done, because it should be done. 381 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. 382 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: So I would have put the odds at small but 383 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: possible that the Chicago Bears could move to Indiana because 384 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: Illinois is given them a heck of a time. They 385 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: want to put a stadium in Arlington Heights, Illinois Like, 386 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: we'll get back to you, and there's Indiana. 387 00:19:59,359 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: Not too far. 388 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: I mean, take a look at a map, it's not 389 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: too far, Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, good to be 390 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: with you, and a much better tax base. And when 391 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: the conversation came up to their credit, it's it's not 392 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: often you can give your state government credit. They were focused. 393 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: They were like, Okay, let's see what we can create here. 394 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: And the city's involved. 395 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: A city called Gary, a city called Hammond, another city 396 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: called Portage. 397 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: They said, all right, we've got some serious ideas here. 398 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: It says if they. 399 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: Had some things already in a drawer and then dusted 400 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: it off in massage and said, if this opportunity ever came, 401 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: we'd be here. Because if they thought of this on 402 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: the quick, they really did a beautiful job. And now 403 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears putting out a statement that they are 404 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: indeed committed to looking at the areas in Indiana. 405 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: To me, this is not a done deal. 406 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: This is not a fair complete but rather it is 407 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: a statement that says we are committed to finishing the 408 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: remaining site specific necessary due diligence to support our vision 409 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: to build a world class stadium near the Wolf Lake 410 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: area in Hammond, Indiana. This is possible. Kevin Bowen joins 411 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: me right now. He is the host of the Fan 412 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: Morning Show on ninety three to five one a seven 413 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: to five of the Fan out of Indianapolis. He is 414 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: also an expert on the Indianapolis Cults, where he does 415 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: writing from training camp all the way through the season. 416 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: And that's a big part of this story because. 417 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: Indiana already has a team and now here's the possibility 418 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: of a second team coming. 419 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: Let's not pay attention to the politics, Kevin. 420 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: Let's not get into what it's going to take to 421 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: build a stadium and the money and the tax credits 422 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: and all the rest. The real story here is what 423 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: is the what is the general thought process in the 424 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: NFL about the Bears possibly moving from Chicago, Sweet Home, Chicago, 425 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: to Hammond to Northwest Indiana. 426 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, morning, Tony. Always good to hear your voice. Yeah, 427 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 6: it is stunning, just the aspect of it. Is one 428 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 6: of the historic NFL teams. 429 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: This is not, oh, the. 430 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 6: Jacksonville Jaguars might move to London, you know, one of 431 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 6: these newer teams. You know, the history of the Bears 432 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 6: obviously is beyond documented. So I think that is the 433 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 6: stunning aspect to it. You know, you point out geographically, 434 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 6: it's honestly not the craziest thought though. I mean to 435 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 6: a lot of Bears fans it might be a closer 436 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 6: drive to the stadium at Hammond than it would have 437 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 6: been to the stadium in Arlington Heights. I should point 438 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 6: out too, it's not the most foreign thing in the 439 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 6: world to have NFL teams with a different state in 440 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 6: their name versus where they play the games. The Jets 441 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 6: and the Giants would be the biggest example of that. 442 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 6: Those are New York teams by name, and they play 443 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 6: in New Jersey. I want to say the Washington football team. 444 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 6: I guess technically you know, old Redskins, current Commanders. I 445 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 6: believe Landover is where that stadium is. Again, it's right Maryland, 446 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 6: so it's not the most foreign concept, but still considering 447 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 6: it as the Bears, I think that aspect is a 448 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 6: bit jarring. 449 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do think it is different. 450 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: You know, the Giants and the Jets playing in Rutherford 451 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: in the Meadowlands. That that standard, right, We have had 452 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: this for for decades. The idea of Landover, Maryland, Well, 453 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a stadium inside d C proper. 454 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: The Wizards play there, the Caps hockey. 455 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: Play there, but it's not It isn't anything that kind 456 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: of boggles the mind. 457 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: The area is still considered the DC area. 458 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: But Chicago has a serious name, footprint, identity, thought process, swagger, 459 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: and this this changes. I wonder if it changes a 460 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: lot of that. But you bring up that maybe. 461 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: They're they're closer. 462 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: You're talking about people in the southern part of Chicago 463 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: and further into Illinois that might come over. Does the 464 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: NFL look at these kinds of moves as positives. 465 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: Or are they very wary of teams doing. 466 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 6: This well, I think, first off, I don't think it's 467 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 6: maybe the shock as a general move would be. You know, 468 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 6: their team headquarters are in Lake Forest, So from a 469 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 6: three hundred and sixty five day out of the year, 470 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 6: grind players will be in Illinois. I mean you're only 471 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 6: literally in Indiana for whatever your eight home games, your 472 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 6: nine home games, and even the night before a game. 473 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 6: I'd be willing to guess you know, they probably are 474 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 6: in a hotel that would be on their side of 475 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 6: the state, and then would obviously bust over police escort 476 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 6: wise on game day. I am curious too, I'd have 477 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 6: to look at a map Tony because you know how 478 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 6: many NFL teams would this be possible for, you know 479 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 6: how many teams are located so close to the border Alla, Jets, Giants, Allah, 480 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 6: the Bears that this is even possible. Like take you know, 481 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 6: Indianapolis for example, and the Colts. I mean you got 482 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 6: to drive at least ninety minutes one way, you know, east, southeast, 483 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 6: west wherever to get out of the state, so that 484 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 6: obviously would be difficult. You know, a lot of teams 485 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 6: kind of fall a little bit more into that boat there, 486 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 6: So I don't think this would be kind of an 487 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 6: uproar from the the NFL of like, oh my gosh, 488 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 6: now we have two teams in Indiana. We can't we 489 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 6: can't have that anymore. We got to do something to 490 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 6: move one of those teams. I don't necessarily see that 491 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 6: being the case here. And the NFL again, is just 492 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 6: much different from MLB one hundred and sixty two games 493 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 6: eighty one home games. Is the NBA eighty two games 494 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 6: forty one home games? You know again, we're talking eight 495 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 6: or nine Sundays, And the Bears don't use Soldier Field 496 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 6: currently as their practice site. Some NFL teams do use 497 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 6: their stadium as a practice site or as headquarters. The 498 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 6: Bears are not one of them. So, you know again, 499 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 6: as far as shockwaves across the NFL, could we see 500 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 6: other teams do this, I don't necessarily seeing that happening 501 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 6: too too many times. 502 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the two teams that come to mind. 503 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: Talking to Kevin Bowen in ninety three, five one, seven 504 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: to five of the Fan out of Indianapolis talking about 505 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: the possibility of the Bears moving to Indiana, as Indiana 506 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: has just passed legislation to make this a step closer 507 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: than the Bears have said, we're serious about an area 508 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: called Hammond, Indiana. It would be the Cincinnati Bengals that 509 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: can move to Kentucky or Indiana, and would be the 510 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. I could just hop over to Pennsylvania if 511 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: they chose. The Steelers could hop over like those are 512 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: the teams on the border Philadelphia. 513 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: The Eagles could decide to go into Delaware. But none 514 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: of those things I think are ever going to happen. 515 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: But you know, with the NFL so guarding itself, everything 516 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: is about the shield and nothing to. 517 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: Hurt it. 518 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: This has to have some level of their blessing. They 519 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: have to see some level of financial opportunity here. And 520 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: certainly we can discuss it from just the taxes that 521 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: even if they're just playing the games here, that the 522 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: taxes in Indiana are lower than Illinois and that's a 523 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: great savings to the team. 524 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: And I would argue to the players. But does the 525 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 2: NFL concern itself with any level. 526 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Of what I would call I don't want to insult 527 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: to anybody, and certainly not my own state prestige loss 528 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: not being in Chicago proper. 529 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a great question, TONI and Honestly, the question 530 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 6: I've asked a lot of Bears fans like do you care? 531 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 6: I mean outside of the mailing address and maybe an 532 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 6: overhead shot from whatever CBS or Fox on a Sunday that, 533 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 6: oh wow, that isn't that's Wolflake not Lake Michigan. You know, 534 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 6: I guess that's different. But you know, outside of that, 535 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 6: I mean, do you care that much? And again, logistically, 536 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 6: for some Bears fans, it'll be a better commute, and 537 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 6: that's frankly, all people care about on game days is 538 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 6: you're getting the Soldier. Field's quite the hassle for a 539 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 6: lot of people. And obviously parking is, you know, a 540 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 6: total cluster. Whereas you would sink with this stadium, you know, 541 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 6: having pin up to Ham in Indiana and lots of 542 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 6: Marsha golf Course and Wolflake Wolflake, I would tend to 543 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 6: think you'd have a lot more area around the stadium 544 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 6: for some of that. So, you know, maybe it's kind 545 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 6: of more of a pride thing than any But I mean, 546 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 6: it's not like you're you're changing your name. I mean, 547 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 6: you're still going to be called the Chicago Bears. I mean, 548 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 6: like it's not like all of a sudden. Yes, you know, 549 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 6: other NFL teams will joke you're the hamm and Bears 550 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 6: or the Gary Bears or whatever, but uh, you know, 551 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 6: bad aspect of it is not changing. Here. One thing 552 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 6: I was curious, like, you know, are we at a 553 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 6: time in the NFL at all tony with like expansion 554 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 6: or moving teams? You know, London has always been a rumor, 555 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 6: but there's not the sitting now that Vegas and la 556 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 6: have their respective teams, there's not the sitting NFL cities 557 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 6: that I feel like are just knocking on the door, 558 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 6: you know, in the NBA. Right now we have that 559 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 6: with Las Vegas ironically and Seattle as two of those 560 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 6: NBA cities. It doesn't seem like we're they're with the NFL. Honestly, 561 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 6: the next big city seems to be something from an 562 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 6: overseas element, particularly London. So I guess to get back 563 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 6: to the question, to me, it would just be, you know, 564 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 6: Bears fans, do you care that again? The Malian address 565 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 6: and the location is not going to be in downtown 566 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 6: Chicago in the heart of it. I mean, Lake Shore 567 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 6: is such a central location for so many people you 568 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 6: visit Chicago, there's a good chance that you've seen the stadium, 569 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 6: et cetera, et cetera. You obviously are not going to 570 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 6: have that anymore. 571 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: Do the Colts care? 572 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they came here in nineteen eighty four, they 573 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: made the big move out of Baltimore. This Indianapolis is 574 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: a town that built a stadium without having a team 575 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: and it just happened to work out. 576 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: Do the Colts care if the Bears come to Indiana? 577 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: Do they think it affects them their fan base and 578 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: their money? 579 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 6: I don't think so as much as you would. So 580 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 6: the NFL has these marketing lines drawn geographically. I want 581 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 6: to say, it's kind of a ninety ish mile radius. 582 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 6: It's in your market. So there are sections of the 583 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 6: state of Indiana the Colts technically are not allowed to 584 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 6: market in, like Cincinnati, for example, has a lot of 585 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 6: that southeast squadrant of the state, even over to Louisville. 586 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 6: I think a little bit there, whereas the Colts don't 587 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 6: have that. And you know, you will remember this, Tony, 588 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 6: and certainly I think some people do. The Bears used 589 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 6: to even hold training camp in Rinselia, Indiana, which is 590 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 6: not region region, but it's you know, it's north of 591 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 6: West Lafayette. I mean it is in kind of that 592 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 6: pocket of the state, if you will. And again this 593 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 6: is even further closer to the Illinois border there. I 594 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 6: think up there, if you did a poll, probably nine 595 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 6: out of ten fans are Bears fans anyway, So you know, 596 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 6: this is not like they're coming to a donut county 597 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 6: around Marion County where the Colts are located. You know, 598 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 6: this is not putting the Chicago Bears at Grand Park 599 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 6: in suburban you know, Westfield, Indiana, and they're right there, 600 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 6: you know, in your actual backyard there. Obviously, it's an 601 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 6: NFC team versus an AFC team. You only play them 602 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 6: once every four years. So I just don't think it'll 603 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 6: have as big of an impact again as whatever the 604 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 6: two LA teams sharing a market, or the two New 605 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 6: York teams sharing a market, or you know, even some 606 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 6: of the closer teams that you maybe mentioned earlier. Just geographically, 607 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 6: you know, the Colts are still a good you know, 608 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 6: ninety minutes to two hours away from every NFL team 609 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 6: not named the Bengals and the Bears. 610 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: That is Kevin Bowen from three five one seventy five, 611 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: the fan out of Indianapolis, Kevin, I appreciate you taking 612 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: the time more to get to keep it here. This 613 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today, so there's even more to Zorroonmom 614 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: Donnie's insanity plan in New York, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. 615 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. And I know what you're saying, Tony, 616 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: it's New York. We don't care. I'm with you. 617 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: I think that if New York fails, that's New York's problem. 618 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: People voted for this, fine by me suffer. Now there 619 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: are plenty people who didn't vote for this. I don't 620 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: want them to suffer for this. Nothing I can do. 621 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: If they haven't left, that's their problem. And I've said 622 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: this about Fox Newsmax, I say this about everybody. 623 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: How can you stay? Why would you stay? 624 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty seven billion dollars is the budget 625 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: necessary for eight million people? The Florida budget is one 626 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen million, and they've got twenty three and 627 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: a half million people. 628 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: That's the point. 629 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: New York's ridiculous, and these progressives and their policies are ridiculous. 630 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: But now, Mam Donnie a communist is lomist? Pace both 631 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 1: it's kind of fascinating. His plan is to put an 632 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: end to things that Mayor Eric Adams put in place, 633 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: including the hiring of five thousand police officers. This was 634 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: supposed to start in twenty twenty six, build through twenty 635 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven, and eventually be five thousand additional officers annually. 636 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty eight. They need the officers, and Mam 637 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: Donnie just said no to this. 638 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: So one way to look at this is defund the police. 639 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: They don't want police officers. But there's another argument, which 640 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: is if you're not going to replace the police officers 641 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: you have, eventually you'll have no police officers at all. 642 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: First, how could anybody remain a cop in New York? 643 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: How could you possibly do it because of the pension. 644 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: You actually think there's going to be a pension left. 645 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: That's stunning to me. But how could you work for 646 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: this guy? 647 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: He doesn't have your back. 648 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: Police get called to a scene where a woman is 649 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: trying to calm down. I don't know if it's a boyfriend, 650 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a sibling, I don't. 651 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: Know who this guy was. The guy picks up a 652 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: knife and is now going at the police. 653 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: Officers who were brought there, called there to help subdue 654 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: the situation or limit the situation. 655 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: They keep telling him to drop the knife. They close 656 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: the door in between the two of them. 657 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: The guy with the knife opens the door and lungers 658 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: at The cops get shot, and mom Donnie visits the 659 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: guy who held the knife. 660 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, how could you be a cop in New York? 661 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: How could you possibly live with yourself? I don't have 662 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: the answer as for not bringing on five thousand more cops. 663 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: That's defunding the police. 664 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 5: That is what it is. 665 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: And now that we know it that these lefties. 666 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: Still believe it. Okay, best of luck to you. Next week, 667 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm heading out to DC for the State of the Union. 668 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: Am I was invited. I'm going to the State of 669 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: the Union. I'll be in the gallery. I'm looking forward 670 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: to it. It's gonna be a very very very good time, 671 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: I hope. And Democrats so you know, they're talking about walkouts, this, that, 672 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: and the other, all sorts of madness. 673 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 2: I will be there. I'll watch it firsthand. You don't 674 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: get a phone. 675 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: You can't have your phone in the gallery, right, so 676 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: you won't be able to take pictures or anything. 677 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: But you'll see it all on TV. It'll be fine. 678 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: Going to d C doesn't bother me at all. Going 679 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: to d C does not bother me, does not move 680 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: me at all. 681 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 7: It's fine. Going to New York. I'll take a pass. 682 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 7: I will take a very very large pass going to 683 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 7: New York. I don't need it, don't need it, don't 684 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 7: want it. I can't imagine. I grew up in the 685 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 7: shadow of New York, spent a million hours in New York, 686 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 7: more than some, not as many as others. I can't 687 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 7: imagine feeling safe walking down any street. I used to 688 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 7: walk down the streets holding. 689 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: A cigar, smoking a cigar, just stopping and smoking a 690 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: cigar on a just a public wherever. 691 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 2: It was fine. 692 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it today. This is not a safe place. 693 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: It doesn't want to be a safe place now. I'm 694 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: sure there's plenty of people who are going through their 695 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: everyday lives they've never had a problem. I just don't 696 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna get that lucky. And what Mom Donnie 697 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: is saying is try your luck, let me make it worse. 698 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: Best of luck to you me. I don't have to 699 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: worry because I've got all the security, but you best 700 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: of luck. I don't know how anybody puts up with it. 701 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody at all deals with that. 702 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: I don't know why to do never right? How why 703 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: you can't afford to leave. I don't think you can 704 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: afford to stay. 705 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony kats dot com tomorrow. 706 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 5: Everyone, take care