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Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: On ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 2: Matthew's beef kidding to the punk Moby look at just

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Speaker 2: what her p Hobby He's stop hers poor Canadas urs.

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Speaker 2: It's Marner war across the James had a wall over

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Speaker 2: the goal, Puny further price.

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Speaker 3: Marner looks for James on the back side.

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Speaker 4: Why else it thrown an he got the battle book?

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Speaker 1: Who Mad's for etched now?

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Speaker 3: Jack Hus looks.

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Speaker 1: Off the car got out of tape with Hubberds.

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Speaker 3: Walk across the coups. Jack Hugh's wit check look golden

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Speaker 3: goal for the United States.

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Speaker 2: For the first time since the nineteen eighty bar gold

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Speaker 2: in the United States takes the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you've been it run Benny.

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Speaker 5: Jack is all.

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Speaker 6: This is all about our country right now. I love

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Speaker 6: the USA, I love my teammates. That's unbelievable, the US

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Speaker 6: or hockey brotherhood. It's so strong and we had so

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Speaker 6: much support from next players. I'm so proud of the Americans.

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Speaker 1: Watch Ked Morning.

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Speaker 7: Everyone, Welcome into a Monday edition of The Fan Morning

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Speaker 7: Show of Kevin Bowen, my Man, James Boyd, Mark Dyton,

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Speaker 7: on the intro right there, and they did it.

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Speaker 1: They pulled it off.

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Speaker 7: After I watched the second and third period in Canada

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Speaker 7: tied that game at one, and I'm thinking to myself.

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Speaker 1: My wife is like, what do you think. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: it's starting to look pretty dicey.

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Speaker 7: But you know what the United States had James Boyden

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Speaker 7: and Kevin Bowen that Canada did not have yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Connor Hellibuk, That's who they had. That's who they had.

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Speaker 7: One of the great goltending performances you're ever going to

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Speaker 7: see with everything that was on the line going on.

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Speaker 1: That was fantastic.

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Speaker 7: Jack Hughes spit chicklets and scoring game running goals Kevin.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't get any more hockey than that, does it.

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Speaker 3: What's the same? You stand on your head and is

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Speaker 3: that what you do when you have an outstanding he performance?

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Speaker 7: He stood on his head, he stood on an index finger,

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Speaker 7: He's stood on everything. I kind of got the feeling

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Speaker 7: Mark dekd and things were going USA's way when there

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Speaker 7: was an open net and Hellabook blocked.

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Speaker 8: A shot with the skinny part of his stick that

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Speaker 8: I thought one of the all time Olympic moment.

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Speaker 3: Like screenshots that was insane.

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Speaker 8: I think they said after the game, They're like, hang

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Speaker 8: it above your mantle on your fireplace of your Connor Hellibuk,

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Speaker 8: because that is an all time moment that was outsiding.

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Speaker 7: You're talking about the photo from overhead right, Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: it was outstanding.

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Speaker 4: James.

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Speaker 7: I know you were not the biggest hockey guy coming

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Speaker 7: in here, but but your all team Usay, what were

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Speaker 7: your thoughts, feelings and emotions as Team USA was going

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Speaker 7: through it yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say the most emotional guy.

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Speaker 9: And I'm not really an emotional sports watcher at all,

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Speaker 9: mainly because you can't really cheer or anything in my field.

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Speaker 9: But obviously I would like for the Team USA to

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Speaker 9: win in the Olympics. But when they brought out the

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Speaker 9: there with the jersey, and having read about both of them, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: that one really got to me because that, to me

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Speaker 9: when they got on the ice and you see the

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Speaker 9: that moment because in one moment, you're extremely happy and

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Speaker 9: the other you're probably thinking, boy, I wish my guys

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Speaker 3: That got to me, Jeff.

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Speaker 9: But overall, amazing performance and like I said, a nice

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Speaker 1: Everybody was making a.

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Speaker 7: Big deal about the fact that it was starting at

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Speaker 7: eight o'clock in the morning, and how did the National

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Speaker 7: Hockey League and Hockey let that happen in the scheduling?

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Speaker 7: And like, guys, it's just part of a bigger overall

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Speaker 7: thing at the Olympics. And I don't know if anybody's noticed,

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Speaker 7: but you do have DVRs now if you want to

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Speaker 7: the hockey game, you could do that. But nobody was

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Speaker 7: unhappy with the result when it was all said and done. Uh,

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Speaker 7: it was on in our house. Everybody was into it.

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Speaker 7: It was you, guys, see our people they need to

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Speaker 7: do that. Can you tell me they do that?

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Speaker 9: How?

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Speaker 3: No, not for live sports. It's tough to life sport

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Speaker 9: I feel like I have notifications on Like, No, I cannot.

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Speaker 7: Do that on a Sunday morning. If you want to sleep,

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Speaker 7: first of all, you'd be asleep right.

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Speaker 3: Get up, be patriot. The patriot. That you can do

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Speaker 3: is get out the bed.

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Speaker 1: I watched it live.

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying the option was there if people wanted

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Speaker 7: the two hours of extra sleep, They're not gonna be

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Speaker 3: They could have put that up.

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Speaker 9: They got to be locked down, like you, Jeff I Love,

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Speaker 9: I'm not buying it.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, how was your sports weekend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to picture a sleep in until

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Speaker 3: ten am, To be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Boy. Friday night was an ass kicking right up there

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Speaker 8: That was a thorough beat down by the boiler Makers

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Speaker 8: over the Hoosiers the seniors. Quite the statement, I would

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, that had all my attention then.

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Speaker 8: And and yeah, I guess a good weekend for the

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Speaker 8: Pacers again, I just I can't believe this is going

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Speaker 8: And then obviously yesterday just you know, all of it,

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Speaker 8: also Friday night, I think about it, so, you know

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Speaker 8: what yesterday. To me, it's just I feel this way

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Speaker 8: soccer is probably on a different level. How big of

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Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta get this checked out. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was epic watching that whole thing.

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Speaker 8: And Jack Hughes just seems like such a fitting character

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Speaker 8: with his whole luck post game and you know, all

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Speaker 8: of it there. He just seemed like the perfect American

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Speaker 3: You know, you can hear it there in the intro

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Speaker 7: Well, it was a lot of fun to watch. The

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Speaker 7: weekend has come and gone. The Olympics have come and gone.

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Speaker 7: They had the closing ceremonies last night. I don't know,

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Speaker 7: I dig even, you know, probably more of a Summer

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Speaker 1: That was kind of cool.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you know, I believe the Paralympics is coming

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Speaker 9: Oh that was that was humbling. So if you want to,

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Speaker 9: mean overall, Jeff, whenever the Olympics is on, I feel

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Speaker 9: like that is a good thing because I'm supporting our country.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's just how it goes.

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Speaker 7: Also, Indiana Pacers continue their season last night. They didn't

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm still I'm still grappling with that.

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Speaker 9: James, Well, yeah, I think one of the bigger news

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Speaker 9: it because it's just kind of what it is. But

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Speaker 9: Tyre's Halliburton has shingles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Rick Carlile revealed that pregame. Shout out to my got

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Speaker 9: Mike Curtis, who covers the Mavericks, that caught up with

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Speaker 3: He was in town and he was telling me. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I was asking Carlile before the game about, you know,

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Speaker 9: he goes, hey, by the way, yeah he has shingles.

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Speaker 9: And I'm thinking this is like something out of.

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Speaker 1: A movie.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you're already out for the season due to

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Speaker 9: the Achilles, and you're twenty six years old with shingles.

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Speaker 9: I mean it sounds like obviously that's pretty serious, something

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Speaker 9: that isn't like life threatening, but extremely uncomfortable. And yeah,

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Speaker 9: said he's still in good spirits, not too surprised by that,

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Speaker 9: but man, I'm just you know, hoping him and praying

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Speaker 9: that mentally he's good with everything going on, because that's

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Speaker 9: another like just weird obstacle you have to overcome in

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Speaker 9: a season that already probably is weighing on you a lot.

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Speaker 7: I think it, probably more than anything, is just he's

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Speaker 7: or three weeks. I think that's gonna bring him down

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Speaker 7: as much as anything, knowing how much he likes being

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Speaker 8: You you started the Pacers topic, Jeff by saying the

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Speaker 8: Pacers continue their season. It's such like an elementary yet

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Speaker 8: accurate way I think to describe the next two months,

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Speaker 7: one oh seven five the FA. Welcome to the Fan

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Speaker 7: Morning Show. It's a Monday morning back up and Adam today.

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Speaker 7: Hopefully this latest battle of winter weather we'll move on

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Speaker 1: I was surprised just kept snowing yesterday. I don't know where.

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Speaker 3: Kevin?

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Speaker 1: That's what we love about Indianapolis.

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Speaker 7: But you know, we do this every year, and obviously

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Speaker 7: What's the one thing, James, you're looking to as somebody

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Speaker 1: What's this combine going to be about?

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Speaker 9: Well, first, it's about catching up with all your friends.

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Speaker 9: Got a chance to see Nate Atkins last night. Stayed out,

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Speaker 3: Even if he says he's playing this season? Should not?

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Speaker 3: And he also added, I believe. And again, James, you

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Speaker 3: Again, the medical hat is easily the least educated hat

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Speaker 3: Sorry about that.

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Speaker 8: on where is the draft depth and not necessarily where

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Speaker 8: is the high end talent necessarily.

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Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like the depth there is some at.

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Speaker 8: Edge rusher and linebacker, which is not something I feel

444
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Speaker 8: like we've said in recent drafts and I think is

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Speaker 8: important for the Colts. So again, we'll get more clarity

446
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Speaker 8: on all of that this week. Of course, you know,

447
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Speaker 8: from a local angle, you know, I brought it up.

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Speaker 3: Well last week.

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Speaker 8: I mean we literally I see mock drafts that have

450
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Speaker 8: a Westfield and a Lawrence North kid going in round one.

451
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Speaker 8: That's a question for Great Greg Shaw on Friday that

452
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Speaker 8: I meant to throw away last Friday. When's the last

453
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Speaker 8: time we've had two you call them Indy Area high

454
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Speaker 8: schools going one of an NFL draft.

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Speaker 3: I'd be hard pressed to remember that.

456
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Speaker 8: So with Omark Cooper Junior and Dylan Thneman, you know

457
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Speaker 8: they are names definitely in round one. Again, Fernando Mendozo

458
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Speaker 8: will not throw quarterbacks? Are what Saturday, James, they work out,

459
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Speaker 8: they do them.

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Speaker 9: In the belief, So yeah, I believe it's Saturday. And

461
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Speaker 9: then I want to say, actually, I do know this.

462
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Speaker 9: Fernando is speaking to the media Friday at eight am,

463
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Speaker 9: and I would expect him to have a huge crowd.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So again that's a little bit of the lay

465
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Speaker 3: of the land for the week.

466
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Speaker 8: Prospects get here on a four day schedule, you work

467
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Speaker 8: out the final day of when you're here.

468
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and you talk about a crazy draft locally in

469
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Speaker 7: the first round. But on top of that, you mentioned Mendoza.

470
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Speaker 7: How about just Indiana University the football Well, good news

471
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Speaker 7: and bad news Kevin Bowen. Bad news is we lost

472
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Speaker 7: James Boyd for the rest of the show. He and

473
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Speaker 7: his athletic team are all having big annual meetings downtown

474
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Speaker 7: now that the combine is here, and they got writers

475
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Speaker 7: from all over the place in one place at one time.

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Speaker 1: So he's off to do those things.

477
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Speaker 3: But he just wants to find out how many meals

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Speaker 3: he can get commis this week.

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Speaker 1: That's all he's worried. That's part of being in the

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Speaker 1: media though, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean I needed to get this twelve

482
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Speaker 3: dollars burrito.

483
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Speaker 1: But the good news is, guess who's joining us right now?

484
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Speaker 3: Rito sounds so good right now?

485
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Speaker 1: Mark, who's joining us right now?

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Speaker 3: Joel A.

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Speaker 1: Erickson on the Paylesslookers Hotline. Welcome to the show, Joel.

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Speaker 7: Our brother is headed off for meetings today, so thank

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Speaker 7: you for filling in for him for a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you stepping up to the plate. My man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem, no problem. He's a he's got big

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Speaker 4: stuff to do. He always does this week, this week

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Speaker 4: of the year.

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Speaker 7: Well, we're happy to have you here. I'll ask you

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Speaker 7: the same thing I asked the guys a little earlier.

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Speaker 7: What does this particular week mean in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 7: to this Colts team?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the biggest thing it means is what's

499
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Speaker 4: going to happen with Alec Pearce. I think that's the

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Speaker 4: biggest thing is that. Obviously it's it's the draft. You

501
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Speaker 4: know they're looking at respects all that stuff. But really,

502
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Speaker 4: I think for this team, the thing that it sticks

503
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Speaker 4: out is what goes on behind the scenes when you

504
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Speaker 4: know Chris Ballard and the rest of the cults are

505
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Speaker 4: meeting with agents, and I think obviously the biggest one

506
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Speaker 4: is is Alet Pierce's agent on what's what his market

507
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Speaker 4: is shaping up to look like and what the Colts

508
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Speaker 4: are going to have to pay to keep him?

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Speaker 8: Joel, You've instilled hockey toughness into your boys? Were was

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Speaker 8: the Erickson household?

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Speaker 3: Locked in? Yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Locked in?

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Speaker 4: So we we we?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 4: We recorded it so that we could still make church.

516
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Speaker 4: And then I avoided my phone like the plague the

517
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Speaker 4: entire time and watched it on delay and and yeah,

518
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Speaker 4: absolutely great. Hella bucking goal was was crazy? Uh for

519
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Speaker 4: the Americans.

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Speaker 8: Gosh, that is some the fact that you could resist

521
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Speaker 8: the urge to be on your phone. Mark Joel at

522
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Speaker 8: his toughness like no other.

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Speaker 3: Right there.

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Speaker 8: Okay, let's shift gears back to the combine. Let's go

525
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Speaker 8: Moody Ward.

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Speaker 7: You know.

527
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Speaker 8: Getting clarification on if he will play in twenty twenty

528
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Speaker 8: six seems to be a storyline.

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Speaker 3: Is it too much of a storyline? Though?

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Speaker 8: And not to like undermine him, because I do think

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Speaker 8: when he was on the field this season he proved

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Speaker 8: he could be a.

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Speaker 3: Very nice player.

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Speaker 8: But he did pretty much say at the end of

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Speaker 8: the season, if and when he has another concussion, that

536
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Speaker 8: will definitely be it for him.

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Speaker 3: So I guess I asked that to say, how should.

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Speaker 8: Mooney Ward's decision to play in twenty twenty six impact

539
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Speaker 8: the cornerback need.

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Speaker 4: It probably shouldn't. I think that's that's probably that's a

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Speaker 4: pretty fair way to lay it out there. It probably

542
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Speaker 4: shouldn't because you have to. You have to take into

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Speaker 4: account the injury risk with him, and it's unfortunate. You know,

544
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Speaker 4: when they signed him last year and you know, paid

545
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Speaker 4: up increased the offer to go get him, it made

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Speaker 4: a ton of sense. But it's really something. You can't

547
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Speaker 4: really foresee a guy suddenly having three concussions in one

548
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Speaker 4: season having concussion issues, and you can't. You just can't

549
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Speaker 4: after a guy's had multiple concussions in one season, expected

550
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Speaker 4: to go the same as you would with if he

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Speaker 4: was just no concussion history that kind of things. You're right,

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Speaker 4: you've got to approach corner back the same way you've

553
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Speaker 4: got Justin Wally coming back off the acl tair and

554
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Speaker 4: a CL's are no longer quite the same as the achilles,

555
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Speaker 4: where you expect the player to be very very different.

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Speaker 4: They say, almost have a rookie in the house, which

557
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Speaker 4: makes me think that if it's me, maybe I'm looking

558
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Speaker 4: at that experienced market for you know, some corner insurance

559
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Speaker 4: because you already have the corner in house and you

560
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Speaker 4: have other draft needs.

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Speaker 7: Talking to Joel a Ericson and Nindie Starr about the

562
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Speaker 7: combine coming up this week and the Colts and what

563
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Speaker 7: they're up to. What do you expect to hear from

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Speaker 7: Chris Ballard and Shane Stikeen that we haven't already heard

565
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Speaker 7: when they meet the media this week.

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Speaker 4: Chris Chris Ballard usually has a couple of nuggets on

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Speaker 4: personnel matters in you know that that we don't know,

568
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Speaker 4: and that's that's usually what I'm listening for. In terms

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Speaker 4: of the big picture, like the philosophy stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that we're gonna hear a ton of change,

571
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Speaker 4: especially since it sounds like and it sounded like this

572
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Speaker 4: for for really months going back before the season, which

573
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Speaker 4: is why some of the breastless reports that came out

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Speaker 4: during the Super Bowl kind of made me chuckle a

575
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Speaker 4: little bit. But it sounded for a long time like

576
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Speaker 4: the team is you know all in on Daniel Jones

577
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Speaker 4: coming back and re signing him, that that would have

578
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Speaker 4: been the big news. But I think there's Ballard usually

579
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Speaker 4: has some has some hints about where they're headed personnel

580
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Speaker 4: wise that that I think are interesting and are matter

581
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Speaker 4: to individual players in terms of the big picture stuff.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, they kind of set that in my

583
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Speaker 4: mind in January.

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Speaker 7: And then.

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Speaker 4: With Shane Steiken, you know a lot of his stuff

586
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Speaker 4: is really more geared towards the season, and so you're

587
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Speaker 4: you're kind of just trying to get his take on

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Speaker 4: on where the team is.

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Speaker 8: Joey Erickson from the Star with the seat on the

590
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Speaker 8: Paylesslookers hotline, Joel, what would have to happen in free

591
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Speaker 8: agency for the first pick in the draft forty seven

592
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Speaker 8: overall for the Colts to be on offense?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, that's a great question. I think you have

594
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Speaker 4: to lose. You have to you have to lose Peers

595
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Speaker 4: signing two defensive ends, and yeah, probably lose Peers signed

596
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Speaker 4: two defensive ends, and then then you feel like that's

597
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Speaker 4: that's the spot to go wide receiver. I think linebacker

598
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Speaker 4: you can probably still this is supposed to be. This

599
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Speaker 4: is where I get a little bit. This is where

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Speaker 4: it gets a little bit difficult for me because I'm

601
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Speaker 4: not I'm not a draft analyst, so I'm kind of

602
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Speaker 4: just going off of the what what the guys around

603
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Speaker 4: us are saying. But it's supposed to be unlike last year,

604
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Speaker 4: it's supposed to be a deeper linebacker class, so you

605
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Speaker 4: can probably wait till the third round to get that.

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Speaker 4: Even then, even if you have two defensive ends and

607
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Speaker 4: free agency, you might want to go defensive tackle there too,

608
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Speaker 4: So they I think that's that's the formula though, as

609
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Speaker 4: you lose peers somewhere else and you end up with

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Speaker 4: a couple of defensive line signings.

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Speaker 8: If you could pick one American hockey player for your

612
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Speaker 8: sons to play like that, it would be who.

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Speaker 5: I.

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Speaker 4: I kind of like the Kuchuks, Like they know, they

615
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Speaker 4: mix it up. They set the tone.

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Speaker 3: Uh, now are you saying you're like Keith?

617
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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you the dad? Are you similar in that way?

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Speaker 3: Instilling that in them?

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Speaker 4: I I, Well, the thing is I don't know anything.

621
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Speaker 4: I really don't know anything about hockey. Every time my

622
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Speaker 4: son who plays hockey, acts about something, I have to

623
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Speaker 4: tell him, Hey, just so you know, your dad does it.

624
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Speaker 4: This is it. I never played this, I don't know

625
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Speaker 4: anything about it, but it's it's just kind of you

626
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Speaker 4: can you can see the effect of it now that

627
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Speaker 4: I'm watching hockey a little bit more, that style and

628
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Speaker 4: that mixing it up, you know. The even even my

629
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Speaker 4: son's favorite player, who d Austin Matthews, throughout the Olympics,

630
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Speaker 4: they were saying the thing he was doing better was

631
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Speaker 4: kind of getting in the in the mix and taking

632
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Speaker 4: some shots and and mixing it up physically, and so

633
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Speaker 4: like I do kind of like the uh, the guys

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Speaker 4: who mix it.

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Speaker 1: Up a little bit.

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Speaker 8: They're like Dean Portman and Fulton Breed right back in

637
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Speaker 8: our Mighty Ducks days.

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Speaker 4: The bas Brothers, the Kachucks are a little bit the

639
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Speaker 4: Kentucks are a little bit more skilled than that Chucks.

640
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Speaker 8: They're more like if Kenny wu And and the Bath

641
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Speaker 8: Brothers had a kid, those those would be the Ka Chucks.

642
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Speaker 4: Yeah, those, except they're pretty good or who play a

643
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Speaker 4: physical brand.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Jill, you might appreciate this, I said in the

645
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Speaker 7: first hour, but it's so good at bears repeating. Someone

646
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Speaker 7: who knows hockey that I know said on Twitter that

647
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Speaker 7: the uh, the Ka Chuck brothers are the neighborhood boys

648
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Speaker 7: that hop your fence and swim in your pool when

649
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Speaker 7: you're on vacation. And the Quinn brothers are the brothers

650
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Speaker 7: that show up, hug Brothers, the Hughes brothers. I'm sorry,

651
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Speaker 7: the Hughes brothers show up and cut your grass without

652
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Speaker 7: you asking.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 4: I like that, But it does feel like they It

656
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Speaker 4: does feel like that everything kind of has been kind

657
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Speaker 4: of leading up to this, with the with the US

658
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Speaker 4: team just kind of stemming from you know, four nations

659
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: face off in the fight and everything like that. It

660
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Speaker 4: kind of set the tone to get get where they

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Speaker 4: are and then you know, you get the goalie standing

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Speaker 4: on his head yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was good. Hey, back to football real quick. I

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Speaker 1: asked this for a lot of folks.

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Speaker 7: With so many Hoosiers coming up in the draft and

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Speaker 7: so many at the combine this coming week, is there

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Speaker 7: a Hoosier that would make sense for the Colts in

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Speaker 7: later rounds?

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Speaker 4: I mean the wide receivers. If if there's a move

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Speaker 4: where you you, you decide to let Michael Pittman go.

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Speaker 4: I think the wide receivers are guys that are interesting.

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Speaker 4: I the Angelo Ponds as a playmaking Nickel is sort

673
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Speaker 4: of a player that I'm I'm really interested in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: That the only caveat there is that Leu and Rumo

675
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Speaker 4: typically doesn't seem to low rookies in his defense that much.

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Speaker 4: So those are the guys that I I that came

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Speaker 4: to mind first. I mean, I you know, you'd love

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Speaker 4: for Nana Mendoza, but he'll be very very very very

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Speaker 4: long gone, especially based after talking to Daniel Jeremiah last

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Speaker 4: week and finding out that he doesn't think there's going

681
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Speaker 4: to be another quarterback taken until maybe the second round.

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Speaker 4: He'll that's that's as valuable as it gets for Mendoza.

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Speaker 1: Mouth.

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Speaker 7: Hey, last quick thing too before we head out of here.

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Speaker 7: Any chance that the that the Colts can find a

686
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Speaker 7: way to make a move for an edge rusher that's

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Speaker 7: already out there, like a Trey Hendrickson or somebody like that, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, Trey Hendrickson is definite, is a definite possibility. I

689
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Speaker 4: think that there's, you know, in going back to kind

690
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Speaker 4: of that pre twenty twenty two when Chris Paler, you know,

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Speaker 4: by his own admission, kind of got in a even

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Speaker 4: more of a run it back sort of mode than

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Speaker 4: he that he normally was. There were some free agent

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Speaker 4: guys there for a while that where they they kind

695
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Speaker 4: of always had somebody in there. It was Jabal sear

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Speaker 4: that it was an Eagle Autrey. It was justin Houston,

697
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Speaker 4: you know, even even Yannick and Gockway. I don't think

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Speaker 4: he was quite as impactful, but did have did have,

699
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Speaker 4: you know, good sack numbers. He did a good job

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Speaker 4: of finding those kind of guys. I think they need

701
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Speaker 4: to find something like that, and Trey Hendrickson maybe falls

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Speaker 4: into that category more than people realize. I know he's

703
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Speaker 4: got the big name, but if you look at what

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Speaker 4: happened with him last year with his hips and being

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Speaker 4: injured and struggling. From that standpoint, I don't know that

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Speaker 4: his value is as skyrocketing as maybe it would have

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Speaker 4: been a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Always good to talk to you, Joel. Look forward to

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Speaker 1: say you in person this week. Have fun and we'll

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Speaker 1: catch up with you down the road.

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Speaker 4: Sounds good, We'll see you guys down there.

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Speaker 1: I believe the term is truck.

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Speaker 7: On Friday night, Purdue with a huge win over Indiana

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Speaker 7: ninety three to sixty four in a game that sounds

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Speaker 7: exactly like the score would indicate, Kevin, it was over

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Speaker 7: fairly early, and Prdue just kept adding on and adding on, adding.

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Speaker 3: On, are the kids in school yet?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: That was an ass kicking? Am I wrong?

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Speaker 1: No, You're not wrong? And you know that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 7: And Purdue avenging that loss at Freedom Freedom at Assembly

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Speaker 7: Hall earlier this year, and man did they avenge that

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Speaker 7: one in a big way. And they start to set

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Speaker 7: themselves up now for the little run towards the Big

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Speaker 7: ten tournament in the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 1: Here to tell us a little bit more about all.

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Speaker 7: Of that, Bobby Rydell on the Purdue Broadcast All the

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Speaker 7: Time kind of enough to join us on a Monday

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Speaker 7: morning on the Fan Morning Show and the Payless Lookers Hotline.

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Speaker 1: Bobby is as Kevin rightly pointed out, that was just

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Speaker 1: a butt kicking on Friday night, was it not?

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, heake Kevin, Hey, Jeff, thanks for having me on. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the that was definitely the response Purdue needed, considering the

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Speaker 5: fact that they had had that tough loss against Michigan,

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Speaker 5: that highly anticipated matchup where Perdue felt like, hey, win

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Speaker 5: that game against Michigan not only put yourself maybe back

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Speaker 5: in the conversation for potentially getting a one seed in

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Speaker 5: the Nbay Tournament, but now give yourself a real fighting

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Speaker 5: shot to get a Big Ten championship in the regular season.

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Speaker 5: And unfortunately coming up short in that game Michigan tip

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Speaker 5: your cap. They were phenomenal, especially in that first half,

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Speaker 5: and so you know there was you know, you're definitely.

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Speaker 1: Down after that loss.

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Speaker 5: And so to have a team like Indiana coming in

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Speaker 5: your arch rival you'd already lost to earlier in the

747
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Speaker 5: season at their place, I think that was kind of

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Speaker 5: the perfect game for Purdue to kind of be able

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Speaker 5: to rally the troops against the crowd was super into it,

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Speaker 5: of course being in Indiana. And yeah, the performance was great, right,

751
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Speaker 5: coming out, taking that lead early and never looking back.

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Speaker 5: And you know, lots of different players on Produe's team

753
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Speaker 5: able to flourish in that game, and hopefully that's kind

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Speaker 5: of a springboard here down this home stretch of the season.

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Speaker 3: Bobby, as always, we we appreciate the time. Do you

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Speaker 3: remember your record against Indiana?

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Speaker 5: I do. Unfortunately I don't like you asking.

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Speaker 3: But well, yeah, yeah I'm not asking. I guess to

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Speaker 3: go down you know, memory Lane in terms of the game.

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Speaker 8: But but I guess I'm asking, you know, and you

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Speaker 8: obviously here an Indiana kid, so maybe it's a little different.

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Speaker 3: But like, you know, does it matter more?

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Speaker 8: I guess, And I don't know if I asked you

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Speaker 8: what your record was against Northwestern, I don't know if

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Speaker 8: you rattle that off the top of your head.

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Speaker 3: So maybe I have the answer, But.

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Speaker 8: You know, I just I feel like for those three

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Speaker 8: seniors it Friday night had to mean quite a lot,

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Speaker 8: even maybe if their words didn't say that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I did see an interview with Brayden where he, yeah,

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Speaker 5: kind of downplayed it and made it seem like it

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Speaker 5: was any other game, And yeah, I have a feeling

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Speaker 5: deep down that's probably not the case. It's just, you know,

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Speaker 5: especially Braiden being an Indiana guy, and his performances over

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Speaker 5: his career versus Indiana had not been great, so I'm

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Speaker 5: guessing there was definitely some added motivation between you know,

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Speaker 5: he and Fletcher and Treykoff and Rent especially, and so

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Speaker 5: for those guys to, yeah, get that record to five hundred,

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Speaker 5: I think had to mean a lot. You know, I

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Speaker 5: just said, my record being two and four. We only

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Speaker 5: played six times when I was there, because we didn't

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Speaker 5: play twice my junior and senior year, which was unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that losing record, to me to this day

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Speaker 5: still bums me out. There's no doubt about that. And

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Speaker 5: so I think for them not to have to say

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Speaker 5: they had a losing record against AU eventually will mean

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Speaker 5: maybe mean more to them down the road than it

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Speaker 5: means now. You know, now they're in the thick of it,

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Speaker 5: and they have their goals on winning a national championship

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Speaker 5: and getting back to a Final four, and those guys

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Speaker 5: have been able to accomplish a lot in their college careers,

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Speaker 5: and so I could see where maybe that one game,

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Speaker 5: you know, in the moment, doesn't feel like it's a

794
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 5: big deal or as big a deal, But I think

795
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Speaker 5: down the road they'll really appreciate the fact that they

796
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Speaker 5: can say that they didn't have a losing record against

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Speaker 5: their rival. And I think, you know, from a rivalry standpoint,

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Speaker 5: it's it's not been ideal. I feel like that you

799
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 5: haven't had you know, both teams kind of in that

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00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 5: top twenty five consistently over the last handful of years.

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Speaker 5: It feels like probably over the last gosh, fifteen years

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00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: that when I u's been good, produces been bad or

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Speaker 5: vice versa. There's been a couple of games here there.

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Speaker 5: But hopefully I think from a robbery standpoint, would be

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Speaker 5: great if Coach de Vries is able to stay in

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Speaker 5: Indiana for a little while, kind of build, put some

807
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Speaker 5: roots down, and then you could really maybe start to

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Speaker 5: get that coach Devrees versus Coach Painter dynamic. You know,

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Speaker 5: we had that great coach Katie coach Night dynamic all

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Speaker 5: those years, which made the robbery even more fun.

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Speaker 8: Bobby Buckets is with us here on the Payloss Slickers

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Speaker 8: Hotline course of Purdue Global Radio Network. They've got Michigan

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Speaker 8: State believe a white out coming up on Thursday. You

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Speaker 8: go back to Friday, Bobby, and boy, that flurry from

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Speaker 8: omer Meyer there.

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Speaker 3: In the second half was quite something there.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think at times he has shown the

818
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Speaker 8: skill that you know, people have talked about him in

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Speaker 8: an NBA light before. What do you think that ingredient

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Speaker 8: could mean in the month of March, where you know,

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Speaker 8: if you're gonna win four, if you're gonna win six,

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Speaker 8: certainly it can't just be those three. And then you

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Speaker 8: know kind of waiting for somebody else to step up

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Speaker 8: for you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no question, I think you're spot on with sort

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Speaker 5: of his ability and where he could be an X factor.

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Speaker 5: And I kind of think back to that Michigan team

828
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Speaker 5: that made the national championship with Trey Burke kind of

829
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Speaker 5: leading the way, Tim Hardaway, junior Glenn Robinson third, that

830
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 5: whole group. They had two guys off their bench, Spike

831
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Speaker 5: Albrick and Nick Stauskas, who really contributed as young guys.

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Speaker 5: I think they were both freshmen on that team that

833
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 5: throughout their tournament run had plenty of big moments. Of course,

834
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Speaker 5: we know about Spike's amazing first half in that national

835
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 5: title game, but they out the course of that tournament

836
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: stepped up and hit huge threes and kind of made

837
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Speaker 5: big shots for them to propel them to get all

838
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Speaker 5: the way to that national title game. And that's what

839
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Speaker 5: you need. You need guys coming off the bench to

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Speaker 5: step up and hit big shots in big moments to

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Speaker 5: win six games in a row. It's pretty tough to

842
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Speaker 5: have your just best guys carry you and make every

843
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 5: single big shot throughout the course of the tournament. So

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Speaker 5: Meyer certainly seems like someone on paper and based on

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Speaker 5: some of the flashes, He's shown that he could be

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Speaker 5: a guy in March that comes through in some huge

847
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Speaker 5: moments and.

848
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 4: Hit some big shots.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, the way he got hot there in that

850
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Speaker 5: second half, and certainly I'm sure the rim for him

851
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 5: looked really big. But what I was even more impressed

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Speaker 5: by was he didn't really like force bad shots. Even

853
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: when he got hot. He still made a couple of

854
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: really nice passes, made the right play even during that

855
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 5: flurry when he was playing at a super high level,

856
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Speaker 5: And that just kind of showed some maturity to me

857
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 5: and showed, you know, just how much high quality basketball

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Speaker 5: he's played as a young guy, because he still was

859
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 5: out there making the right play even though he was

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00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 5: being aggressive looking for a shot because he had a

861
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Speaker 5: going if he drew two defenders and had two guys

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00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 5: on the ball, he was still making the right play.

863
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Speaker 5: And yeah, I think he's someone that of course, as

864
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 5: he gets older, he's gonna get more opportunity, but this

865
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 5: year I think there's still an avenue where he could

866
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Speaker 5: be huge rust in March.

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Speaker 7: Bobby Rydell part of the Boilers broadcasts on college basketball,

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Speaker 7: joining us here on the Paylesstlikers hotline and Bobby Matt

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Speaker 7: Painter is so good at getting his team better throughout

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Speaker 7: the course of the year and getting them ready for

871
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 7: tournament play and peaking at the right time and doing

872
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 7: things like that.

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Speaker 1: What do you think he's learned about this team in

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Speaker 1: the last two three weeks.

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Speaker 4: That's a good question.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think, you know, we've had some ups

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00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: and downs this year, certainly way more ups, of course,

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Speaker 5: I think sometimes because of the you know, expectations coming

879
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 5: into the season, you know, being the preseason team number one.

880
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 5: You know, the fact that we've lost five games, you know,

881
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 5: can be disappointing, but and the fact that we're most

882
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 5: likely not going to be able to win a Big

883
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 5: ten championship is disappointing, and there's no doubt about that.

884
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 5: But still we've had a phenomenal season overall with just

885
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 5: five losses and got a ton of wins under a belt,

886
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 5: a ton of nice wins, and it's still been a

887
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: tremendous season overall. And still, you know, our NCAA tournament

888
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 5: goal is a Big ten tournament championship goal can still

889
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 5: be attained. And I think coach has probably learned that,

890
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: you know, he wants to see more consistency game to

891
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 5: game from his team. I think he's talked about that

892
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 5: where there's some games where we really come out and

893
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 5: are physical and forcing our will on the glass, and

894
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: then there's other games that against Illinois Michigan, and granted

895
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 5: those are some of the better rebounding teams, so a

896
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 5: lot of it has to do with the opposition, but

897
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 5: those teams are coming in and into mac Arena and

898
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 5: out rebounding Purdue and getting the better of us from

899
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 5: an opportunity standpoint, and so I think he just wants

900
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 5: to see more consistency. I think, you know, he seems

901
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 5: to be kind of playing around with some with some

902
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 5: different lineup combinations more here as the season's going along,

903
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 5: because you know, that's really what it comes down to,

904
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 5: is peaking at the right time in March and trying

905
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 5: to find the best combinations. From a roster standpoint, I

906
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 5: think is going to be something important, which which groups

907
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 5: work best, which guys are playing at their best, and

908
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 5: you know, inevitably, typically coach Painter will shorten that rotation

909
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: a little bit come tournament time. You get those extended timeouts,

910
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 5: you just don't really need to rely on as much

911
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 5: depth come March Madness, and so I'll be interested to

912
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 5: see if coach Painter kind of starts to shrink that

913
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 5: rotation a little bit as we move closer to postseason play.

914
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 8: Bobby last one from me, and again you'll hear Rob

915
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 8: and Bobby Bucket's coming up Thursday. It's purduing Michigan State

916
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 8: inside of Mackie. Do you like it when you see

917
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 8: an opponent doubling Trey Kaufman Ren And I guess I

918
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 8: go back to the start of the game. I mean,

919
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 8: you see two doubles early and Boom sprayed out the threes.

920
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 8: Obviously at one point he's got the little look like

921
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 8: Jokic maybe they're in the post and the beautiful cup

922
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 8: by CJ. Cox and then kind of semi behind his

923
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 8: head there for the layup. So, as obviously an ardent

924
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 8: supporter of Purdue, do you like to see the double,

925
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 8: you know, because you feel like he gets others involved?

926
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 8: Or are you more of a I also am a

927
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 8: fan of when they just single team Trey kauflin Ren,

928
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 8: he can kind.

929
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: Of go to work.

930
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 5: That's a good question. I think sometimes it's game by

931
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 5: game basis. So when I see teams doubling tray that

932
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 5: don't typically double very much. That's kind of not their

933
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 5: game in game out strategy. I love it because it

934
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: usually means they're not very good at doubling, and then

935
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: rotating out of said double teams, and then we end

936
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 5: up getting wide open you know, horse shots and or

937
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: like you know, maybe a guy you know, they double,

938
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 5: a guy dives to the rim, they do a poor

939
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 5: job coming over to take the dive, and we're getting

940
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 5: layups and things like that. Then I love it because

941
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 5: you know, Trey is a very very player as far

942
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 5: as I think that's something he's really gotten better at

943
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 5: throughout the course of his career. He will and very

944
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 5: often four shots through double teams, he will make the

945
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 5: right play and then we get other guys involved, and

946
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 5: we have plenty of quality shooters on our team. But

947
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 5: there's other games where teams are much more disciplined with

948
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 5: what they do and are better and that's something they

949
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 5: do kind of game and game out. A team like

950
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 5: Iowa State comes to mind. Nebraska, they're pretty disciplined with

951
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 5: with what they do because they do that gaming game out.

952
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: Sometimes those situations it's not as advantageous reprodud because they're

953
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 5: just much better at it. And then sometimes we don't

954
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 5: get you know, the quality offense that we would get

955
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 5: if Trey was isolated one on one because he's such

956
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 5: a great ISO score. So sometimes it's kind of depends

957
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 5: on the opponent, I suppose, but you know, I think

958
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: Trey is such a good player that, you know, whether

959
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 5: teams are playing in one on one, whether he's double

960
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 5: getting doubled, you know, he's usually, for the most part

961
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: this year, done a great job making the right play,

962
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 5: and we saw a lot of teams just doubling him

963
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 5: a lot early in the season, and that was I

964
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 5: think a big cause of why his you know, scoring

965
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 5: output was down compared to last year, because he came

966
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 5: into this year with you know, a much better reputation

967
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 5: as a legitimate scoring threat, and he had that attention

968
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 5: of the opposition and so unsurprisingly so he was not

969
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 5: getting a lot of one on one opportunities because he's

970
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 5: so good down there. And I think as the season

971
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 5: has gone along, you know, he started to get a

972
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 5: little bit more one on one opportunities, and some of

973
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 5: those have certainly happened against teams that have really big

974
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 5: front courts that you know, like Michigan, they just single

975
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 5: covered in pretty much the whole game because they kind

976
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 5: of trusted their size to try to limit him and

977
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 5: make life difficult for him and take away the shooting,

978
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 5: which I think is certainly a sound strategy. And you know,

979
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 5: Trey missed a couple of shots in that game he'd

980
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: like to have back, even though he still had a

981
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 5: great performance. But it'll be interesting. That's why's why matchups

982
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 5: are so big in the tournament, right You just you

983
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 5: get a team that tries to do something that they're

984
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 5: not great at because you have the personnel to make

985
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 5: them do that. A lot of times that can work

986
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 5: out in your favor.

987
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 7: I'm just curious, Bobby, favorite Winter Olympic sport after the

988
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 7: last two weeks.

989
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 5: Favorite Winter Olympic sport? That's a good question. I mean,

990
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 5: the hockey stuff yesterday was obviously fascinating, and I loved

991
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 5: seeing the USA take the gold medal. That was really cool.

992
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 5: I watched that really neat documentary on Netflix about that

993
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 5: nineteen eighties nineteen eighty team, the Miracle on Ice Team,

994
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 5: and I love that movie. Miracle one of my favorite

995
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 5: sports movies for sure. So I probably got to go hockey.

996
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 5: But I got to say the skiing is pretty cool.

997
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 5: I do like that, and the curling, of course, is

998
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 5: kind of Oh.

999
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 7: You and Kevin. You and Kevin Hey. Always good to

1000
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 7: talk to you man, Thanks so much. Enjoy the rest

1001
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 7: of the season. We'll catch up with you down the road.

1002
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 5: Yeah. Have a nice chat with you guys as well.

1003
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 5: Talk to you on the road.