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Speaker 1: And that's part of why I think Illinois really you know,

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00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: every year we do this in the Final four, we

434
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: look at one side of the bracket and say, well,

435
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: that's the championship game. Right there, and then the other

436
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: game is just kind of the offset game, right and

437
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: you it is hard to look at Michigan Arizona and

438
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: not say to yourself, well, that's your national title. But

439
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: don't sleep on either Connecticut or Illinois. Connecticut, as we saw,

440
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: and I've heard a lot of people say this, but

441
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: it's true, just has that championship DNA where they never

442
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: consider themselves out in Illinois. When you can space the

443
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: floor and you have the number of shooters that Illinois has,

444
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: you're going to be you have a shot in any game.

445
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: I think it's fascinating Jake on the potential Illinois Arizona

446
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: matchup in the championship game, because I feel like Tommy

447
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: Lloyd and Brad Underwood have both constructed their teams in

448
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: a similar manner of trying to go for the European

449
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: type of players they don't, which is different compared to

450
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: other people. The only difference between two is always a

451
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: much more prolific offense in terms of shooting than Arizona. Yeah,

452
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: I mean, but Arizona can run.

453
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: Arizona loves to run, and they I thought Arizona did

454
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: against Purdue what we kind of thought was going to

455
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: be you know, they they were able to take advantage

456
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: in the paint and they were able to compromise Trey

457
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: Kaufman Wren, which then changed what Purdue did that they

458
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: irritated Braden Smith. They you know, they did a lot

459
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: of things that you expected them to do. But back

460
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: to what I was talking about when it comes to Purdue, Now,

461
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: there is a balancing act that that I think every

462
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: program needs to balance. And when it came when when

463
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: we got into the wild wild West of the NIL

464
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: the thing that I was the most curious about was

465
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: you got the feeling that there were going to be

466
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: that everybody was going to have to go in on

467
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: this in terms of just like the constant purchase a

468
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: player and of roster and of retweak and all of that.

469
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time there you had to look

470
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: at it and say, Okay, eventually there's going to have

471
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: to be some sort of a governance of this. Number

472
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: one and number two, is it possible that there are

473
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: a handful of programs that are going to be able

474
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: to sustain by weathering the storm and continuing to do

475
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: it kind of the old fashioned way of building roster

476
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: through maturity and organically. And is there room for two

477
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: or three of those, while everybody else cannibalizes themselves and

478
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: eventually gets into the world of donor fatigue. And once

479
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: the donor fatigue kicks in, of the same car dealer

480
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: getting the request for no, no, no, If we can

481
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: just get one point five million this year, then we're

482
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: gonna get the point guard we didn't get last year. Well,

483
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: I just I gave you five hundred thousand last year.

484
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: Now you want seven hundred thousand. And then if that

485
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: were to be the case, the programs that have been

486
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: going about it with a little bit of the old

487
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: school mix. They stand on this island while the water

488
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: is getting choppy all around them, but starting to retreat away.

489
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: I think Matt Painter knows there's a balance a little

490
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: bit in that. But what I was talking about in

491
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: terms of being disappointed disappointed in Purdue, not in Purdue's

492
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: inability to win a national championship, but disappointed that we

493
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: don't get to see those three players doing it the

494
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: right way and setting examples continuing on, and I think

495
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: Matt Painter shared that sentiment.

496
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm really proud of are these three guys sitting right

497
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 4: here and everything they've done for our program really set

498
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 4: a standard of how to go about their business.

499
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be hard to emulate that.

500
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: And I think in today's game, you know, having three

501
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 4: guys come and you know, stick it out and fight

502
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: through Adverse City and just keep making our program better.

503
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: They got the most wins in school history, They got

504
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 4: the most tournament wins in school history. They got two

505
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: Big Ten championships, they got two Big Ten tournament titles.

506
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: You know, they showed up every day and worked and

507
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: that's what you want. And a lot of people look

508
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: at it like it can't keep happening in today's landscape,

509
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 4: but these guys prove that it can. All three of

510
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: them will get their degrees from Purdue University, which means something.

511
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: And with the rules and everything is it's diminishing education.

512
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: And it's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard

513
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: in my life because all of us has taken opportunities

514
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: in education and helped our lives and helped our families.

515
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: And you can have it all.

516
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: When you have the character that these guys have and

517
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: the skill that these guys have.

518
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: You can have it all.

519
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: You can get a great education, you can treat people right,

520
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: you can have a great basketball career, you can become

521
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: a pro. And I think these guys are great role

522
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: models for young people out there to understand the big

523
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: picture of it and there is balance and you don't

524
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: have to look at one thing. You don't have to

525
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: look at money or you know, education or basketball. You

526
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: got to look at the whole picture and why not

527
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: have it all? Because these guys have in the standard

528
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: they set for our program, It's can be tough to match,

529
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: but that's what.

530
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: We're going to try to find.

531
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: We're going to try to find.

532
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 4: Guys like this that have character that are wired to

533
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: be successful.

534
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 5: Hat really hats off to their to their parents.

535
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: Totally agree, and I listen, you can nitpick and talk

536
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: about there and mock and tongue in cheek their inability

537
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: to win a national championship all you'd like. It's cool,

538
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: but just keep in mind that if you are somebody

539
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: that is bemoaning the and I'm not I'm saying that

540
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: college basketball needs to be bemoan I'm not saying that.

541
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here one of these like it's ridiculous

542
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: paying these kids. I get it, I get it, but

543
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: it is possible one of two things is going to

544
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: happen here, actually one of three. Purdue's either going to

545
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: kind of do, say what Arizona's done of cross pollinating

546
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: between NIL and portal, but also player development, which they've done.

547
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like Purdue. I mean Oscar Kluff

548
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: was a huge part of what Purdue did this year.

549
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: It's not like they haven't gone out and utilized those

550
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: things to get players or to build roster. Don't misunderstand,

551
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: but that kind of an era of four year guys

552
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: sticking together because you know, Fletcher Lawyer said it as well. Yeah,

553
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: I mean, we could have gotten more money elsewhere, but

554
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: sticking around here with these guys and completing something that

555
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: we set out to do together was important. And no

556
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: matter who you are a fan of, I think you

557
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: should respect that. I absolutely think that you should respect it.

558
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: Now on a side note about perdue, by the way,

559
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: and maybe this is something we'll get into more over

560
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: the course of the week, because it's going to be

561
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: a Final four heavy week. But I don't know, a

562
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: lot of things can happen to a player when they

563
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: get injured and or their career is just not going

564
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 1: the way they thought or they get traded or whatever

565
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: it may be. But Eddie, have you followed some of

566
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: the latest stuff from Jade and Ivy.

567
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: I have not.

568
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: Jade and Ivy, and I say this in total support,

569
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: not in you know, I don't know. Jade and Ivy

570
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: wonderful player at perdue, tremendous talent, But Jade and Ivy

571
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: has kind of retreated away and I'm not certain, Eddie,

572
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: can you look up. I believe he is injured. I believe,

573
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: but he is still on an NBA roster. I believe correct.

574
00:35:59,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 6: Is he.

575
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: Simply inactive with the bulls? I apologize that I don't know.

576
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: I should know where his standing is. I know he

577
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: had injury again, but he has lately gone on a

578
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: series of very deep and philosophical and at times troubling

579
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: in context videos on social media, including the most recent

580
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: saying that he has lived a life of depression that

581
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: led from and as the result of being sexually abused

582
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: as a youth. He does not mention any names, and

583
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm not making light of any of that in any way,

584
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: shape or form, but he seems to be retreating more

585
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: into just behaviorally speaking, some things that I think are

586
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: raising concern by those that are around him, not just

587
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: not because of the basketball standpoint, but just as a

588
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: player or as a I mean as a person himself

589
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: as opposed to a player. And you know, that's a

590
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: pretty great, for sure, bad segue perhaps, but it made

591
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: me think of it because we're talking about perdue players

592
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: after their time at Purdue, and I don't know where

593
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: Trey Kaufman Ren will play next. I don't know where

594
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: Fletcher Lawyer will play next. I have a suspicion Braden

595
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: Smith will be in the NBA for a very long time.

596
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know that that with those guys. You

597
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: look at it and you say, okay, so they may

598
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: go into the non basketball world at some point and

599
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: they'll do great things. They seemingly have. They applied all

600
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: of the things they got over their time at Purdue.

601
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: Women come back. It was planes, trains, and automobiles and

602
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: everything was involved with it other than basically pillows and

603
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: rooting on the Bears. But driving back from Alabama with

604
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: Alex Wolf and track dude Michael Young and listening to

605
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: the end of that Connecticut Duke game, and we'll let

606
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: you hear how it sounded, because there was some great calls,

607
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: both from Dukes standpoint a standpoint, and of course you

608
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: all heard the television standpoint and why we were just

609
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: three dudes roller along looking like we're in a Disney

610
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: movie while it happened, I'll explain next. So yesterday Barbara

611
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Motorsports Park, Birmingham out about right outside of Birmingham. Birmingham

612
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: is a super cool town. I mean it is, the

613
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: east side of Birmingham is just it's beautiful and it's

614
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: still relatively that's going to be the next boom city.

615
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: And then we'll see what happens from there. But either way,

616
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: here's the deal. There are three ways in which we

617
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: travel to races. One is there's a charter, but the

618
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: charter usually leaves on Wednesday evening a flight and to

619
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: be on the flight home, you've got to be on

620
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: the flight down, on the charter, on the flight dossier

621
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: or whatever it's called.

622
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 2: Manifesto.

623
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the manifesto, thank you, you're welcome. And so it's

624
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: not part of my manifesto destiny that I get that

625
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: I'm on that because I stay through Friday time work.

626
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: You don't want to do the chaunted fly Jake.

627
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: We used to. It was great. We used to have,

628
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: you know, IndyCar used to have their own RJ, and

629
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: so we just would do that and that would they

630
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: had several of them, Regional Jet, and they did several

631
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: of them. But anyway, you and that q R speak

632
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: for a that's right for a flight like Birmingham, it's

633
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: really six to one half dozen the other commercially speaking,

634
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: because you have a there's no direct flight from Birmingham

635
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis. So the flight from Birmingham to Indy, you

636
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: fly from Birmingham to Nashville, you have like an hour

637
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: layover in Nashville, and then you fly from Nashville to

638
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: Indy and by the time you factor in getting to

639
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: the airport, going through security, whatever else, it's really it's

640
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: like a thirty minute difference. So Michael Young and I

641
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: drove down. It's a straight shot, easy, easy drive seven

642
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: just the.

643
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Two you drove down. No Alex Wolf on the drive down.

644
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: Oh, that's correct. So we drove down, and you know,

645
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: we always run a car. And so when I went

646
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: to get my rental car or they gave me a

647
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: Jeep Wagoneer brand new, I mean brand new, it's smelled

648
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: brand new. Sit in it wonderful jeep Wagoneer. Enough. We

649
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Speaker 1: literally had enough for all of that, that entire Dugan family.

650
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Speaker 1: So we get in the thing and we drive down.

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Speaker 1: All good. Alex Wolf, who works with us on the network,

652
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Speaker 1: drove down I think on Thursday night, and they were

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Speaker 1: in a smaller car, and you know, it was a

654
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Speaker 1: little more cramped. And so I said, well, Alex, I

655
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Speaker 1: mean we got a Wagoneer. You can ride back with us. Okay, great,

656
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Speaker 1: So yesterday we leave the racetrack. Race is over. We

657
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Speaker 1: get in the wagon ear, we got full tank of gas,

658
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Speaker 1: I got a playlist. Let's go. We pull out of

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Speaker 1: the Barber Motorsports Park and Alex, in a way that

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Speaker 1: only Alex can do it says, I think the tailgate

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Speaker 1: lift is coming unhatched. And as I'm pulling onto the

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Speaker 1: road correct I's a pulling out of the road, I

663
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Speaker 1: hear eat eat, eat, and I look up and the

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Speaker 1: rear tailgate latch is not just is it lifted up,

665
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Speaker 1: it's gone like it's lifted all the way up. More

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Speaker 1: like the springs aren't working, and it's like darn near

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Speaker 1: flapping towards the hood of the car. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what in the world. So we pull over and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: we got to get this thing fixed. We got a

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Speaker 1: seven hour we got a four hundred and fifty mile

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Speaker 1: drive in front of us, and I mean, I'm I

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Speaker 1: got the cruise on eighty two right, I'm like, we

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Speaker 1: got bags back there, the whole deal. So Michael Young

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Speaker 1: and I never trust Michael Young in this situation. Michael

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Speaker 1: Young's gets out. He's got his phone. He's one of

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Speaker 1: these guys that series everything. You're like, just just look

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Speaker 1: it up in the manual. Now, hang on, Siri, jeep waggoneer,

678
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Speaker 1: lift hat, you know whatever. So he said, he gets

679
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Speaker 1: some video and he says he's basically Spacoli okay, and

680
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Speaker 1: he's like, I can fix it. I'm like, you can't

681
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Speaker 1: fix this car. He's like, I can fix it. My

682
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Speaker 1: old man's a television repairman. So he gets out the

683
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: manual and he says, oh, yeah, look, pop the hood.

684
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Speaker 1: I'm going to reattach some wires here and the you know,

685
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Speaker 1: underneath the hood, some of the spark plug wires or whatever,

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Speaker 1: the fuses. I'm going to reconnect some of the fuses. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good idea. I mean, if

688
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Speaker 1: we pull this thing back in to the rental car

689
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: place like this, we can probably do a switch out.

690
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: But if we do it and they see that we've

691
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: now reconnected all kinds of wires, now, no, I don't

692
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Speaker 1: think that's a good idea, Michael, No, I can do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm good at this stuff. I go. Look,

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Speaker 1: So we call the rental car place and they say, well,

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Speaker 1: the only thing you can do is return it to

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Speaker 1: the rental car The only place open near you is

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Speaker 1: at the airport. Okay, fine, So we get on the Interstate.

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Speaker 1: I go, look, get all the bags out of the

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Speaker 1: way back Harrey, and put them in between rows two

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Speaker 1: and three so they're secure, so they're not dumping all

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Speaker 1: over the Interstate while this lift hatchet iron iron iron.

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00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: As we're as we're driving along, and then we get

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Speaker 1: to the airport and it's one of the where you

704
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Speaker 1: got at the rental car place, where you return it

705
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: is in its spring break. So there's a billion people

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Speaker 1: there and it's mayhem, and I'm trying to drive into

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Speaker 1: the garage it may or is it bedlam? Both? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's bedlam because I had, Michael have to get in

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Speaker 1: the bed of the back of the thing to hold

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Speaker 1: the lift hatch down so that we could get into

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Speaker 1: the parking garage because with it flying upward, it was

712
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Speaker 1: higher than the clearance. So the car behind us as

713
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Speaker 1: hank and he's hitting his lights like, hey, morons, your

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Speaker 1: things open. We're like, we know, Michael's climbing in, he's

715
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Speaker 1: holding it. So then we get in to return the

716
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Speaker 1: car and the guy behind us in the car honking

717
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: is Tim Sindrick and he's like, what in the world

718
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: are you guys doing. I'm like, well, I don't ask.

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Speaker 1: So we go in. I'd already talked to the rental

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Speaker 1: car place. We go in and they have no idea

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Speaker 1: that we're coming, despite the fact that the national person,

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Speaker 1: who I think actually you know, was wait for it.

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Speaker 1: When I tell you this, I know it's going to

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Speaker 1: be shocking. Maybe not stateside. Didn't you know? They told

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Speaker 1: us that they would know. Well they didn't know. So

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00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: we were there for like thirty minutes and finally they say, well, listen,

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Speaker 1: the only thing we have is a minivan. Fine, We'll

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Speaker 1: take whatever we can get. So here we are Spring

729
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Speaker 1: Break Final four weekend, just three dudes cruising along in

730
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Speaker 1: a minivan, got the grocery, go get it right there

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Speaker 1: in the back bumping slick rick up sixty five. And

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00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: then the game gets on between you kind and Duke,

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Speaker 1: and we start listening to it despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: it's a blowout, and we're listening to the game from

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Speaker 1: a national perspective. And at the same time, I have

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Speaker 1: my phone up because it's shown me the ways on

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Speaker 1: it and my text messagers coming through. And at the

738
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Speaker 1: end of that game, because the satellite radio is probably

739
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Speaker 1: a minute and a half behind, so we're thinking that

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Speaker 1: Connecticut is down, and all of a sudden, my phone

741
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Speaker 1: just blows up, Holy cow, Holy cow, Mullins Indiana kid,

742
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Speaker 1: Wow Wow. And you know, my mom's like, what a

743
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Speaker 1: finish And I'm like, oh my gosh, guys, like I

744
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: think Mullins is about to hit a shot here, And

745
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 1: then it happened to us. Now I'm going to first play,

746
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: and we were listening to the national broadcast. But this

747
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: is how it sounded on the Connecticut Radio Network, the

748
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Speaker 1: University of Connecticut Basketball Radio Network. Here's how it sounded yesterday.

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Speaker 7: With the end of that game, when booze they double

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Speaker 7: them back to sar Now I head to Kayden Boozer

751
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 7: head of steel.

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00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 5: Mullens gets it. It's caravan to Mullen's long range.

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Speaker 8: Three Bullen's delivers bedlam.

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Speaker 5: Dedlam here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's bedlam there too, right, And and even though

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Speaker 1: at this point there was no bedlom for us because the.

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Speaker 2: Thin we call that foreshadowing.

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Speaker 1: That's right, no bedlam h for us at this point,

759
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: because we were no longer with the Errent Hatch rolling

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00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: through the interstate. Now, that was a great call, iron, iron, iron,

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Speaker 1: It's right, is that meire? You're playing? Yeah? So? And

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Speaker 1: they they The only thing they told me is if

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Speaker 1: that continued for four hours, we were to take it

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Speaker 1: to a position. Now, let's listen to the Duke Radio broadcast.

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Speaker 1: This is the Duke Men's basketball radio network with their

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Speaker 1: call of how it ended yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Hit it in they do.

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00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 9: For Boozer, bobbled it back for Sarn he needs to get

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00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 9: rid of it. Duncir Kaiden seven seconds, trying to throw

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Speaker 9: it ahead, deflected, stolen by Connecticut. Two seconds. It's Mullin's

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00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 9: up top for the win. Oh hit it with three

772
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 9: tenths of a second ago. Calakai Smith ran off the

773
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Speaker 9: bench that should be a technical well with three tenths

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00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 9: of a second ago, Connecticut has the least seventy three

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00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 9: to seventy two, as Connecticut got the three from Mullins

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00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 9: after the turnover from Cadaan Boozer.

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00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: Pretty solid call there, very solid because you can, you know,

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00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: very thorough on what happened. And he's right about the bench.

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00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that you called in that situation what

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00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: they should have called.

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00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: Malachai Smith is one of the five on the floor

782
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: for that play, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Well, but there were players on the bench that ran

784
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: off though true, and they but to their credit, they

785
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: immediately got them. I mean it wasn't like they rushed

786
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 1: the floor. They did cross over the line, but then

787
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: got back into So that's probably why he was confused

788
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: by that.

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00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 2: Was that Dan Hurley's son, the guy who got the

790
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: first interview when they won the national championship.

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00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: That one year, that ran on the floor. You mean

792
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: that was that was the get back guy.

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00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: You know how everyone in the UFL got to get

794
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: back coach get back. You know, Sean mcvay's got a

795
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: personal person who's just there to pull them by the ways,

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00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: to get him back on the sideline.

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00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: Well, and Brent Venables has that a lot of coaches

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00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: have that. Yeah, guess I just Danny Hurley. Afterwards, I

799
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: go back to it was such a poised moment for Connecticut,

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00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: which was ironic given the complete lack of poise that

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00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: Danny Hurley has in nearly every situation.

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00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 6: And when.

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00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: When he ran out, Hurley like after the shot and

804
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: like his jacket kind of got ripped off and then

805
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: he kind of brushed up against by the way, David

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00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: Shoemate was the one on that call that you just

807
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: heard from Duke. When when Hurley like stared down the

808
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: official and like kind of nose rubbed him and then

809
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: like stared him down as he walked away, kind of

810
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: like Matt Damon after the how you Liked Them apples.

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Speaker 1: It was very odd.

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00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: So I saw a different angle of that.

813
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: Jake.

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00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: The official was trying to talk to Dan Hurley, and

815
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: there's people that are suggesting that Hurley was doing that

816
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: getting that closer. We could hear the official with how

817
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: loud it.

818
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: Was in the arena. Okay, that would make sense that

819
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: it was kind of the stadoun afterwards, it was really weird.

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00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: There had to have been some sort of a plausible explanation,

821
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: because otherwise, seemingly even in that moment, that's a big

822
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: time tech. But then, of course the television call as well,

823
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: which you all saw, but it's worth hearing one more time.

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00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 6: Seventy to seventy.

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00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 10: Duke ten seconds to go, got it cut and run

826
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 10: through the ball and better than this guy get it

827
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 10: into Bridger versaar ahead boozer that bought the check and

828
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 10: stole Avan, hewins Caravan two seconds yous tosses it up.

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Speaker 5: It's gone, We're poor. Great net goes in the front,

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00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 5: utterly impossible, the.

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Speaker 11: Mar Sphens trauma, the deflex, the reaction, and that the

832
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 11: major nudgeons out of it.

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00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 5: THEATA they all did suit.

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Speaker 1: For see the stalky that of course iron Ego on

835
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: the call along with Bill Rafferty, great calls.

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00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: Gosh, I love the onion call so much. Right, it's

837
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 2: one of my favorites.

838
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: Big time shot, big, big, big time shot. But it

839
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: wasn't even the shot itself. It was all of the

840
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: players collectively having the cool heads throughout the course of

841
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: that play. And as we talked about why Duke didn't

842
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: just I mean Duke completely collapsed, they had the completely

843
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: brain froze in that moment. Mike Chappill going to join us.

844
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Speaker 1: Coming up just a couple of minutes from now NFL

845
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: owners meetings and a couple of things that have come

846
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: out in terms of conversations surrounding the colts in Indianapolis

847
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: on this final four weekend. We'll get into that with Chap.

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Speaker 1: Just a few one o'clock hour underway in Indianapolis, for

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Speaker 1: that matter, of the one o'clock hours underway everywhere in

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Speaker 1: the Eastern time zone. Good afternoon to you. My name

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00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: is Jake Querry, Eddie Garrison, the other voice you hear

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Speaker 1: on this program. It is called Query and Company here

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Speaker 1: on ninety three to five and one oh seven to

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Speaker 1: five of the Fan And for those of you that

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Speaker 1: are new to the program, we welcome you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for finally finding us, and we're sorry that

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Speaker 2: you eventually did find us.

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Speaker 1: That's right. The company is all of you, and we

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Speaker 1: need to get back into that of appointing titles within

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Speaker 1: the company, which we've had a lot of fun with

861
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: over the years. And at the company party, the company

862
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: holiday party, we have the following who are still eligible

863
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: to win themselves a nifty little prize. Gary will be

864
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: happy to know that his hat is on the way.

865
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: He want a Texas hat? Well, Jake, that's interesting. Some

866
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: guy named Gary on your hat want a Texas hat?

867
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: How did that? Or on your show want a Texas hat?

868
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: How did that happen? Allow me to explain. We do

869
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: the numbers game here at Querying Company, and we've had

870
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: a lot of success with this. We've done a lot

871
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 1: of research on it. In particular, we noticed that kids

872
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: they go bonkers for it. And we do it with

873
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: the Sounders. Oh yeah, the Sounders are fantastic. We do

874
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: it for the eighty five hundred. We also do it

875
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: for the tournament itself. Do you still happen to have

876
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: the Sounders in front of you?

877
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 3: Eddie?

878
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: I do. The way that we do this is we

879
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: had sixty eight numbers, yes, each team and the tournament

880
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: was randomly assigned a number, and then people would call

881
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: in and they would give us the number of significance

882
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: to them, and there were three ways to win. If

883
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: they got the team through the random number assignment that

884
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: won the national championship, they won not just a hat

885
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: that I went online to buy for them of the

886
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: school that represented them, but also gift cards to Java

887
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: House and as well Chicago's Pizza. The gift cards alone

888
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: are fabulous, but then you get the hat conversation piece.

889
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean anywhere you go envy of your friends, your colleagues.

890
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: You go to a New Year's Eve party and you're

891
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: rocking a hat and somebody says, well, why are you

892
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: a fan of that school? Well, not so much, but

893
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: I got it in a numbers game, the a Querying

894
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: Company numbers game. Yes, boom off and running instant conversation piece,

895
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: the icebreaker in general incredible with this, Gary got Texas.

896
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: Texas is the double digit seed to have advanced the

897
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: furthest of course they made it into the Sweet sixteen.

898
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: Gary has a super sweet Longhorns hat on the way.

899
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 5: Now to start that night a big first.

900
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Drew is and Drew, we still need your contact

901
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: info if you are Drew that got dare I say,

902
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Drew prairie View at A prairie View A and M.

903
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: We need your contact info because one of the ways

904
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: to win and to win a hat is to get

905
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: the largest margin of defeat in the tournament. Prairie View

906
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: A and M lost by I believe was it fifty

907
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: nine or sixty points to Florida.

908
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: And somewhere around that was the second largest margin history.

909
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm guessing that neither of these teams in

910
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: the final four are going to lose by sixty. So

911
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: I went ahead and actually already purchased the hat for Drew,

912
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: Prairie View, A and M. Now we have the following

913
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: that are still in our tournament. David David Drew Illinois,

914
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: David Drew Illinois. And what do we what do we

915
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: have there? Eddie?

916
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: You know Jake on New Year's Eve at midnight usually

917
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: have a bottle of something that's right, yes, and you

918
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: pop it in celebration or at a wedding.

919
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: Do you play that one more time for me?

920
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll play one more time for you.

921
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: See, and usually what is that the two that throws

922
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: me off? I thought for a second the first time

923
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: that I heard it, that you were doing some sort

924
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: of a non politically correct a line. I drum well,

925
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: if I only played the like one go west and

926
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: save it, Don sisk Pontiac, I thought that's what that was.

927
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: First, If I only played it once, you were like

928
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: what was that? And then again and then you probably

929
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: say can you hit me with the obviously.

930
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: There you were popping champagne, right, you can go? Okay,

931
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: so Illinois for David. Now Brent called in. Brent is

932
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: still alive because he got the team and it didn't

933
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: look like he was going to be you know, he

934
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: had to wait till the very last minute, believe you me.

935
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: But Brent of course got Yukon, which was this sounder.

936
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: I apologize to all the people that are listening to

937
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: us at their homes one speaker if you have dogs

938
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: and they just went.

939
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: That's not really a dog. That's actually a guy named

940
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: Dale after too many as a matter of fact, can

941
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: you play this? Here's if Dale does this? Good play

942
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: the Illinois sounder? So Dale after both bottles that he's popped.

943
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: Dale then sounds like this. That's right, that's the husky. Okay.

944
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: Now Colleen has Michigan. Colleen one of our forty two

945
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: female listeners. I believe, if my handwriting is correct, Colleen

946
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: with Michigan. She also had a sounder here, right, Is

947
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: that really what a wolverine sounds like? Apparently that sounds

948
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: like Dale's starting his lawnmower, doesn't it.

949
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

950
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: I think that's what the Can you play that one?

951
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: More time. This is sure, Dale's going out and he's

952
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: got the toro and he's got the pull string on it.

953
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: Here we go, yeah, okay, whos And then lastly we

954
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: have Phil. Phil has Arizona. So when Phil drew Arizona,

955
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: this is what he heard.

956
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 8: That was awesome.

957
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: That's an Arizona tea, right.

958
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: That's an It was Arnold Palmer making an Arnold Palmer

959
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: in the ESPN commercial back in the day's right, okay,

960
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 2: And Arizona t is the tea used in Arnold Palmer's

961
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: there you go.

962
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: So those are the folks that are still alive. And

963
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: that's how we do things here on Aquarium Company. We

964
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: got into and I will get back into talking about

965
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: Purdue and why, but how about the run for uh

966
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 1: that's right, Iowa into the Elite eight and I listen,

967
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: they ran into that buzz saw that is Illinois. That

968
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: was my far the best sounder that we had for Iowa.

969
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: Ben McCullum can coach. Okay, you know, Dale actually was

970
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: hoping to run into that after some of the champagne

971
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: as well, but not able to do so. But I'm

972
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: going to get back into Purdue coming up bottom of

973
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: the hour. And why not for the reason that you

974
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: think perdue this year was a disappointment. Jason Delaney is

975
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: the state champion basketball coach at Cathedral. He has won

976
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: titles at three schools in Indiana, and in addition to that,

977
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: he has a player that is in the Final four

978
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: that is going to be back here playing for the

979
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: ALIGNI and Jason's going to join us just about one

980
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: hour from now. But the NFL Owners meetings are underway,

981
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: and one of the topics of discussion within the owners

982
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: meeting is that of the expansion of schedule from seventeen

983
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: to now eighteen games. Joining us on the guest line

984
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: to talk about that, he is from CBS four and

985
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 1: wxin Mike Chapel, joining us. Chap I'll begin right away

986
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: with that. In terms of the owners meeting, And I

987
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: know that we talked a little about this last week,

988
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: but from you know, having your finger kind of on

989
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 1: the pulse of this. Aside from the schedule stuff, which

990
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: I want to get into, what are kind of the

991
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: big topics of discussion for the NFL owners in this

992
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: particular session.

993
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 3: Oh, good question. I'm sure behind closed door closed doors

994
00:58:54,680 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 3: are looking at again revenue issues, which Whilch certainly was

995
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 3: an eighteenth game. Media writes, I think the broadcasting packages

996
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: coming up soon whatever soon is so, and they've got

997
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: some rules things and some some rules uh proposals to

998
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: go over. But it's it's always revenue. I mean, it's

999
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: you know, I follow the money. That's why I read

1000
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 3: the stuff that Carl here say Gordon mentioned about she's

1001
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: heavily in favor of ALE any team game season. And

1002
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's gonna happen. It's they They've all

1003
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: They've told us it's going to happen. The only question

1004
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: is when and what were the concessions to the players

1005
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: have to be so that they will be on board

1006
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: for it.

1007
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and I want to begin with this. Where

1008
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: do And I'm gonna this is going to sound like

1009
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm the old guy yelling at clouds. I'm asking this

1010
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: like journalistically, not necessarily because it has some sort of

1011
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: emotional thing to me, right, But where do we draw

1012
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: the line? You know, it's kind of like the Big Ten,

1013
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: and the Big Ten had eleven and then they had

1014
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: that really cool logo with the subtle eleven in the

1015
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: middle of it when they added Penn State and it's like, well,

1016
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: that's cool. Then they get then it's like wow, okay, twelve,

1017
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: and then before you know it, now it's the big thirty, right,

1018
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm being facetious. But if we

1019
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: go to eighteen, then when do we eventually say, you

1020
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: know what, twenty is a good round number, let's go

1021
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: to twenty. I mean, where does it end?

1022
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's a good point. Always, you know,

1023
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: seventeen is just a funky number because everything's out of balance.

1024
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: Eight home games, nine row games and and all that stuff.

1025
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 3: And I'm so eangry.

1026
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: It means that the Colts can't go five hundred chap.

1027
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: That's the important thing, right.

1028
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: I know, I understand it. So but I'm always used

1029
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 3: to ten and six and six and ten and all that,

1030
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: and it just MUCKs it up. But they've been floating

1031
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: this eighteen game thing since they went to seventeen games

1032
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: they just did, and when they've been it's funny because

1033
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: Goodell say, well, you know, so we'll see where this goes.

1034
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: It's it's not something we've openly discussed with the players

1035
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: yet and all this and then you get mixed reviews

1036
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 3: from the players and the former executive director de Morris

1037
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: Smith sort of standing in favor of it. The new

1038
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 3: leadership doesn't sound quite so much. But it'll all come

1039
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 3: down to what compensation with the players get, and I'm

1040
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: telling you there's going to be a not a handful.

1041
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 3: There's going to be a segment of the of the

1042
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: players who won't want an eighteenth game, probably the veterans,

1043
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 3: you know who, the eight ten year guys who understand

1044
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 3: what it's all about and understand the rigors and what

1045
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: it costs on the body, because they've got they've made

1046
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: their money in large part, I tell you're talking to

1047
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: a first or second year or third year player, and

1048
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: if I'm one of those guys, the next day another

1049
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: eighteen games, you know we're going to bump your pay,

1050
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: whatever the percentage is. These kids are for the most part,

1051
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 3: they think they're in vulnerable and they'll worry about every

1052
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 3: the aches and pains and surgeries when they're fifty. You know,

1053
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 3: I was twenty three one time, and I didn't care

1054
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 3: what would happen when I was fifty. That's just human nature.

1055
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be really interesting. But again, to get there,

1056
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 3: to get to a team, the players are going to

1057
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: have to get something a higher percentage of the of

1058
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 3: the profits probably and it will also be uh I think.

1059
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: I think they will drastically change the off season to

1060
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 3: where we don't have OTA's and we don't have you know,

1061
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 3: the things that we're used to, the the off season

1062
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 3: program ramping up and okay, probably probably training camp opens sooner.

1063
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 3: So it's it's kind of you know, right now they're

1064
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: playing twenty games anyway they are, it's just three of

1065
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: a pre season. So the people who run these things,

1066
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 3: I wonder how much the coaches will have to say

1067
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 3: about this, because they they want practice, they want as

1068
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: much time as with players as they can get, and

1069
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 3: any advancement in the schedule eighteen games is going to

1070
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: mean less time. I would think, less time with the

1071
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 3: players in the offseason, which your coaches are not going

1072
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 3: to be in favor of, but they don't count chap.

1073
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that jumps out at me about this.

1074
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Speaker 1: If there are always concessions. So if you are if

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Speaker 1: the owners are gonna win out and they're going to

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01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: say you're going to play eighteen games, then that means

1077
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: that you know, there's concession that is done. And sometimes

1078
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's not even what we totally hear upfront, as

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01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: you just talked about with the players Association and et cetera.

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01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: So if you are going to take and require for

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01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: them more game time and then as a result you

1082
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: are conceding fewer practices or commitments and et cetera, then

1083
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: theoretically it would be a fair assumption to think that

1084
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: we're going to see even more injuries, not just because

1085
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: you have more opportunity game to get injured, but because

1086
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: you have less physical conditioning perhaps to prepare your body

1087
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: for the collision sport of the NFL. If that is

1088
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: the case, and we continue to see key players missing

1089
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: a key times and et cetera, is it possible that

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01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: the owners are actually compromising their brand without even realizing it,

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01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: because people are going to become increasingly turned off.

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01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: I don't know they'll be turned off, but again, but

1093
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 3: the injury thing is is definitely an issue.

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01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 6: It has to be.

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01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 3: I remember back in the day when I was in

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01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 3: camp with Rick Van Turrey and and camp started a

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01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 3: lot earlier, and players didn't work out in the offseason

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01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: that much. Some of them. You know, you keep in shape,

1099
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 3: but you just didn't. And then you get to camp

1100
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: in the first week, two weeks, three to camp, and

1101
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: you're getting these guys in shape. Well, now they for

1102
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: the most part, they show up in shape again, you've

1103
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 3: got your off season program starts in mid April, it

1104
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 3: ramps up, rams up, and you got OTA's and get

1105
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: them veteran mini camp and they're done in mid June.

1106
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 3: Then they got a month off, but they still work

1107
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 3: out during that month off. But there's no question it's

1108
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: going to require players to be more disciplined on their own.

1109
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 3: But that's still not the same. It's just not the

1110
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: same as having players in the building four hours a

1111
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 3: day during the off season and having hands on and

1112
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: working with your training staff because it's working in the

1113
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: gym or at the local high school isn't the same

1114
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 3: as what you do on the field in a structured setting.

1115
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, every week you cut off of the off season,

1116
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 3: even when you add more time in training camp, I

1117
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 3: just think it does increase the risk of possible injury.

1118
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: But I think they've been somewhat okay with that. I mean,

1119
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 3: the teams look at their players, they do they don't

1120
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 3: treat them as cattle that much. They don't because this

1121
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,479
Speaker 3: is their problem duct. But the fact that they play

1122
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 3: on Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Wednesday this year Thursday, Friday. I mean,

1123
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: it just tells you that, yeah, we're concerned about player

1124
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 3: recovery and they need X number of days and all

1125
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 3: this and Thursday products were always bad because players have

1126
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 3: little turnaround time. That that's that, that's an acknowledgment the

1127
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: keep the league has. But having more games on on

1128
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: more venues, on more streaming at you know, uh facilities,

1129
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: it just shows you what the bottom line is and

1130
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: there are there are players to replace players unless like

1131
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 3: you mentioned, it's it's the top five eight players on

1132
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 3: your team and you and you lose three of them,

1133
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: like we saw last year with Daniel Jones. Every team

1134
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 3: has injury. It's who's injured. Is it your past treasure,

1135
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 3: is that your left tackle? Is it your quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

1136
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 3: Things change, they'll take all that into account. I think

1137
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 3: they've done a better job of concussions. Back in the

1138
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 3: day they told you to, you know, take some mammonia

1139
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: saults and get back in the game. But there's still

1140
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 3: that inherent risk and we see it seems like a

1141
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 3: rise in achilles injuries. I don't know why that is.

1142
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 3: These guys are in great shape they are now, whether

1143
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: they're just putting too much strain on what the human

1144
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: body can handle, I don't know. Injuries will always be

1145
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 3: taken into account, but so will the revenue that extra

1146
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 3: games playing on extra days, on what that will generate.

1147
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: Mike Chapel is my guest CBS four and WXI in

1148
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: Fox fifty nine, where you can see and read his

1149
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: work covering the Colts. He is, of course the dean

1150
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: of Colts writers chap carli Ers Gordon and some of

1151
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: the availability that she has had here in talking with

1152
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: people around the owner's me, has talked about how the

1153
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: Colts have to financially be smart, especially right now. When

1154
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: I saw that, my first thought was here we go again,

1155
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: because I recall when Bill Polliam was here, he had

1156
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: made that comment a few times, and I'm like, look,

1157
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: every team in the league has the same salary cap

1158
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: and the same revenue share, so theoretically the books are

1159
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: the same for everybody. But I realized what she actually

1160
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: met was not you know, hey, we're at a disadvantage

1161
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: because we're not in New York. What she met was

1162
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: simply the way that the contracts are staggered. They couldn't

1163
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: necessarily frontload a lot of people right now because of

1164
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: other contracts later that will be coming up. Am I

1165
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 1: understanding that correctly?

1166
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. She also mentioned that they've changed

1167
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: somewhat and how they're doing things that they put VOIDI

1168
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 3: war years in Jones and I think Pierce as well,

1169
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 3: which is a salary cap maneuver that allows you to

1170
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: spread signing bonuses and guaranteed money out over years that

1171
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 3: you know the guy won't won't be here or they'll

1172
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 3: restructure you know. Again, Jones got a forty four million

1173
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 3: dollar signing bonus over two years. That's twenty two million

1174
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: dollars account this year, next year. Well, they put like

1175
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 3: three votable years, so he's spared over five years. It's

1176
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 3: just a mechanism that he's getting the same money, but

1177
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 3: they're doing it differently. Chris Battle generally hadn't done that.

1178
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 3: He wants to live in the moment, and he's done

1179
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: that for the most part. But to really go forward,

1180
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 3: you need to be achieve the recreative Again, kick in mind,

1181
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm not out there, that's past what I do now

1182
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 3: at this stage of my career, and this is the

1183
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 3: most invaluable time for Joel ricks On, James Boyd and

1184
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 3: Stephen Holder get you get face to face time with

1185
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 3: these guys, and they really did a great background information.

1186
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 3: But it just shows you there's a change in the

1187
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 3: way of doing things. Again, they've got the cash. They

1188
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 3: just gave Dan Jones a forty four million dollars signing

1189
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 3: bonus and pierces was like, what was a thirty or

1190
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 3: forty million dollars signing. That's that that's money in hand,

1191
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: so they've got to have that. But there are ways

1192
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 3: that you always hear cash over cap. It's just how

1193
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 3: you you give your players money, but you defer how

1194
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 3: it's worked against the cap. Some teams they they really

1195
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 3: don't pay a lot of attention. They just defer money.

1196
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 3: New Orleans is always great at that, and then before

1197
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 3: you know that they're going, you know, the next year,

1198
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 3: they're you know, fifty million dollars over the cap and

1199
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 3: you really got to do some serious roster sliching. That's

1200
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 3: where you don't want to get. But again, so much

1201
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 3: of what they've done we've talked about, there's so much

1202
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 3: of what they've done is dependent on Daniel Jones being

1203
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 3: the guy. If he's the guy, they're in defent shape.

1204
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: I can argue they're in decent shape. If he's not,

1205
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 3: I don't know what happens.

1206
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: Do you think his career has more shown time where

1207
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: he clearly is the guy or more times where you

1208
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: wonder why he has not taken the step towards being

1209
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: the guy.

1210
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 3: The latter again, I can argue that he's what is

1211
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 3: He played seventy years, eight years. He's had a really

1212
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 3: good year and a half of quality play ten games

1213
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,839
Speaker 3: last year in the year, and it was at twenty

1214
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 3: and twenty two I think when he took to the

1215
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 3: Giants to the playoffs. Other than that, it's not been

1216
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 3: very good, right, and a lot of it, A lot

1217
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 3: of it again was the way the Giants mismanaged everything,

1218
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 3: including him. So I understand that, but to really invest

1219
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 3: who talked about this? If I had, If I'm in

1220
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 3: college in a debay class and they told me to

1221
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 3: argue that Joe reinvesting in Jones was a good idea

1222
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 3: or a bad idea, I'd take a bad idea because

1223
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,560
Speaker 3: I'd make a stronger argument. Now I could make the

1224
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 3: other one work because I'm a good byes er, But

1225
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: you're you're banking heavily on a guy who's had again

1226
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 3: a year and a half, twenty five games, twenty eight

1227
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 3: games of really good play and an injury history. No,

1228
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,520
Speaker 3: by the way, he's in the midst of rehab and achilles,

1229
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 3: so it's they've got a lot of belief in it.

1230
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 3: They may again. We thought they made this decision when

1231
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 3: they traded for salt Carter, that he's a guy and

1232
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 3: sort of he's the guy with their fingers crossed and

1233
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 3: then shortly after he blows out his achilles. But there

1234
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 3: was no playing B. There is no playing B. If

1235
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 3: not Jones, then who it's Leonard? And I mean how

1236
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 3: comfort lay with Roger Lenard going into your season of

1237
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 3: increased urgency. So if it works, if it works good

1238
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 3: for them, and I hope it does. He's a great

1239
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: guy they played. People say, well, you know, his his

1240
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 3: season was really he was kind of less a shitting't

1241
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 3: before the achilles and you could see that he was declining.

1242
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 3: I don't buy that. When they were eight and two

1243
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 3: he was. Yeah. Of course he had a game or

1244
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 3: two where he struggled Pittsburgh. Every quarterback does that. But

1245
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 3: by and large, this was they were airing thirty two

1246
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 3: points a game, almost one hundred.

1247
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: Again, they were rolling, no question, they were rolling.

1248
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 3: So I understand that. But then there's that big butt

1249
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 3: with the Achilles and then the large, the wide angle

1250
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 3: view of his career. There's a lot of hope involved

1251
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 3: with this, and I'm not sure hoping is the sound

1252
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 3: of strategy in the NFL or any or any business

1253
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 3: for that matter.

1254
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, there was a lot of hope.

1255
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 1: Thank you for the segue about Purdue going in. And

1256
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to get into why I don't think people

1257
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: should be disappointed. Well they should be, but not for

1258
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: the reason they think about Purdue's season. But I will

1259
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: end with this chap before we get into that final four.

1260
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 1: Is here during your time at the Star, did you

1261
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: notably I'm saying the Star back because sometimes you guys

1262
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: would kind of float around. Did you ever get assigned

1263
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: for like sidebar stuff at any of the final fours

1264
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: that took place here in Indie.

1265
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 3: Final four or Sweet sixteen? And one of them was

1266
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 3: kind of funky because it was it was it was

1267
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 3: Duke and I can't remember if it was It was

1268
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 3: a sweet sixteen or final four. But one of their

1269
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 3: forwards was if you remember Mike Chapel, really uh six

1270
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 3: six sixty seven forward and the only difference is he

1271
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 3: was a black guy, So you know, it wasn't like

1272
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 3: but here I've got I went back and look, I've

1273
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 3: got a byeline on a story covering Duke, and I'm

1274
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 3: quoting Mike Chapel in the story. It was just craziest.

1275
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 3: Not your son, No, No, I was young enough then

1276
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 3: that it wouldn't have been my son anyway. But my

1277
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 3: best memory was when I was assigned the East Regional

1278
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 3: because it was a year that in the hosted it

1279
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 3: and George Mason came out of the East with Jim

1280
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 3: Larenega and uh uh. There was a kid from buff

1281
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: on the team and I can't remember his name, good player,

1282
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 3: but they shocked Yukon and everybody. And I went to

1283
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 3: is it Fairfield Fairfax, Virginia wherever George Mason is and

1284
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 3: I spent time with them and that was pretty cool.

1285
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 3: That that was. It was great to cover of Cinderella?

1286
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: Was it? Sonny Troutman? Was Sonny Troutman the one that

1287
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: was there?

1288
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 3: It doesn't sound right, uh, but it could. I want

1289
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 3: to say no, but but he's a kid from Rebuff.

1290
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 3: He was a senior. He was a rotational player.

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01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 8: Uh.

1292
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 3: But the Final Four is as good as it gets.

1293
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 12: Uh.

1294
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 3: I hope Braylen mullins it just sits back and enjoys it.

1295
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he he's coming home when he's oh, by

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01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: the way, he's bringing yukon with him.

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01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: Jordan Carter by the way, Okay, Jordan Carter, George Mason, Yep,

1298
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 1: there you go.

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01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 3: There you go.

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01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 3: But that and Laarenega was just a he was such

1302
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 3: a great guy to talk with. Ended up going to

1303
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 3: Miami and having success. So again, covering the Final Four

1304
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 3: is one of the all time events in bucket list

1305
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 3: type things that the five hundred, the World Series and

1306
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and all that stuff. But U and

1307
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 3: INDI's gonna as you know, Indy's gonna knock out the park.

1308
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 3: Even with even all the crappy construction downtown, It's going

1309
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 3: to be a great four or five days downtown. And

1310
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 3: I hope everybody really enjoys it. What's it got to

1311
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 3: be every four or five years in India? And because

1312
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 3: Indy does it.

1313
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: The right way, Chap appreciate the time. As always, we'll

1314
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 1: catch up with you once we get a little more

1315
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: clarity on some of the rule changes that may be

1316
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: coming out of the owner's meetings. Appreciate it as always.

1317
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 3: Stay in contact. Guys me well, Hi, Mike.

1318
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: Chapel joining us. We come back final four and it

1319
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: doesn't involve Purdue, and I was disappointed. I was disappointed

1320
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: in perdue, as I mentioned off the top, and I'll

1321
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: explain next. Yes, so the final four is set. You

1322
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: have Arizona, you have Michigan, you have Connecticut, and you

1323
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: have Illinois. And I mentioned several times and mentioned it

1324
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: earlier on the program that if you watch the end

1325
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: of the Connecticut game, it is interesting and it's a

1326
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: almost a contradiction that Connecticut is coached by Danny Hurley

1327
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: because of the who is a fabulous coach, don't get

1328
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: me wrong, but Danny Hurley, who so seldomly seems to

1329
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: have self control in key moments, and yet his team

1330
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: had total control. They were poised. They everything from you know,

1331
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: Duke had a complete meltdown. Duke was not thinking about

1332
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't even have to get it

1333
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: across the timeline if they didn't want to they didn't

1334
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: have to Connecticut Traps, gets the tip, Mullins deflects that pass,

1335
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: steals it, makes the pass, gets it right back and

1336
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: knows and has the clock in his head to know

1337
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: that he's got to let go of the basketball and

1338
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 1: there's not time to advance it. It was a perfectly

1339
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: executed play.

1340
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 2: How about Alex caravan Jake in that moment, the senior

1341
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 2: could have said, all right, this is my this.

1342
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: Is my moment, the dish it back out.

1343
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: I've played in seventeen I think he's sixteen and one

1344
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournament, and he could have He's the

1345
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 2: one who hit the three to make it a one

1346
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:38,839
Speaker 2: point game.

1347
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: I think, and he had they had not shot the

1348
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: ball well all game, or.

1349
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: He made it a two point game. Yeah, he hit

1350
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 2: their first three in the second half late and then

1351
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 2: uh he had the wherewithal to pass it of the

1352
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: freshman to give them the win. But it was correct

1353
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: and to know that, you know, and he had as

1354
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: straight on shot that presence of mind. And after the

1355
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: Purdue game against Arizona, I witnessed something that was about

1356
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: presence of mind, and it would be easy for me

1357
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 2: and I probably would have a lot of people that

1358
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: would agree with me or get on board with me

1359
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 2: if I came on here and said, here is a

1360
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 2: Purdue team that had the presumptive college basketball player of

1361
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 2: the year in the preseason, that had all Americans at

1362
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 2: multiple positions, that had a senior marksman shooter, a senior

1363
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: downlow player, the best big man in the transfer portal,

1364
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 2: the best international signing, and so much promise, so much

1365
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: expectation two years ago, a national championship game, appearance, preseason

1366
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,799
Speaker 2: number one, all of it. And yet I heard everybody

1367
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 2: say it when they lost to Arizona, what do they

1368
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 2: have to show for it? Well, they have a show

1369
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: for it. Well they have one hundred and seventeen wins

1370
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: amongst them. They have two Big Ten Tournament championships. You

1371
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: know all the accolades, you know everything they accomplished. I

1372
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: don't need to sit here and list them all. But

1373
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 2: let me tell you about presence of mind that I

1374
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: observed at the end of that game and why I'm

1375
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 2: disappointed about Purdue. At the end of the game, as

1376
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, Matt pater was doing his press conference

1377
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: along with the three seniors, and as is typical in

1378
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 2: an NCAA tournament setting. After the game, the coach speaks

1379
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 2: with the players and then the players are eventually excused,

1380
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 2: and that's when it happened. What happened was something that

1381
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: I witnessed, and I said to myself, this should be

1382
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 2: disappointed for every fan of college basketball. This should be

1383
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 2: disappointing for Purdue fans notably, and it's disappointing for me.

1384
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 2: I was disappointed, which I'll tell you what it was

1385
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: and explain further. On the other side, Jason Delaney, head

1386
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: basketball coach Cathedral State Champs, also has a player coming

1387
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: back home for the Final four, not named Brayln Mullins.

1388
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: We'll talk to him coming up about ten after the

1389
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: top of the hour.

1390
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: Woes bittersweet indeed for Purdue when looking at the season.

1391
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 1: By the way, John Gross, new head coach at Charleston

1392
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: leaving Akron Matt Painter, had sat down after Purdue loss

1393
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 1: to Arizona, a game that Purdue looked at times to

1394
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: have not necessarily in control, but certainly within their grasp,

1395
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: and then you know, you can, we can go over

1396
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 1: a million things. Coppinger and gets in foul trouble and

1397
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: you know they couldn't get Fletcher Lawyer going. There were

1398
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: a number of factors in that game. Arizona's just bigger, stronger, faster.

1399
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: They were the one seed, and they may win the

1400
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: whole thing. Who knows Michigan might win it. I think

1401
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: any of these four teams can win it wide open.

1402
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: But as Painter was up there with his three seniors,

1403
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: he the players were excused. That's usually how it works

1404
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 1: in the NCAA press conferences. And they're getting up and

1405
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: they're walking away. And as they're leaving, and they are

1406
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: moving to their left, and if I'm not mistaken, Smith

1407
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: and Kaupman Renn had been sitting to the left of Painter,

1408
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: and Lawyer was to his right. And they're getting up,

1409
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,799
Speaker 1: and Fletcher Lawyer gets up slowly and is moving along

1410
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: the podium to exit, and he stops and goes back

1411
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 1: and picks up the name placard with his name and

1412
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: the PRDUE logo on it or the NCI logo, whichever

1413
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: it was, and then he picks up the other two

1414
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: Brayden Smith and Trey Kaufman Renz, and then proceeds to

1415
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: push all three of their chairs in as he walked

1416
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: off the podium and to me. It was very symbolic.

1417
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: It was very representative because what it showed was that

1418
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: in this moment of colossal disappointment and heartache, Fletcher Lawyer,

1419
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: still in that moment, had the presence of mind. There's

1420
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: that term again about two things number one. And maybe

1421
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: he was simply helping out the folks at the NCAA

1422
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: and he pitched those placards immediately, but I'll bet not.

1423
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: I'll bet what it was is sometimes in life, no

1424
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: matter what we do, we are involved in great moments

1425
01:23:54,600 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: or involved in great events, memories, et cetera, and we

1426
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: like to hold on to just one little memento, one

1427
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: little piece. I was at the Super Bowl when the

1428
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: Giants beat the Patriots, and afterwards I saw plenty of

1429
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: people that were scooping up some of the confetti and

1430
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: putting it in like ziplock bags, because you want to

1431
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 1: say you were there and a little piece of the

1432
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: moment was forever captured by you. And I actually think

1433
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: Fletcher Lawyer right there was realizing that for the final

1434
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: time his name was on something and attached to those

1435
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: other two to show that he was there, present with

1436
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: them in a moment. And then he pushed the chairs

1437
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: in because that's the right thing to do. That's the

1438
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: right thing to do. Which if you're a fan of

1439
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 1: other schools, or you don't like Purdue, or it's ingrained

1440
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: in you that that's a rivalry. I get rivalries there fun,

1441
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: it's fun to poke fun at your coworker over the

1442
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: water cooler whose team didn't play well, whatever, I get it.

1443
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: But if you were a fan of college basketball, if

1444
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: you're a fan of the purity of sport, if you're

1445
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: a fan of what basketball in general should represent, then

1446
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: you had to be disappointed, not in Purdue, but for Purdue.

1447
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: And you had to be disappointed not in Purdue, but

1448
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: for college basketball. Because what do athletes talk about after

1449
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: the fact When you interview athletes or you see them

1450
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: interviewed and you ask them about their playing career, What

1451
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: often do they say and what do they usually say

1452
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: in retirement when they're announcing their retirement and they're fighting

1453
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: back tears, and they always say, I'm just gonna miss

1454
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: being around the guys or the gals, depending on what

1455
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: sport it is, what gender. But that's what teamwork is.

1456
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: Teamwork is about. You know, a couple of weeks ago,

1457
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: I was at the gas station. I'm coming out and

1458
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 1: I hear my name called and I look up and

1459
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: it's George White, and so, you know, George and I

1460
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: go walking over and you know, give him five and

1461
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: we sit there and catch up for a minute. And

1462
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: I see George White periodically, and it's always good to

1463
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: see him because George and I were teammates. And the

1464
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: only fight I've ever gotten in my life was with

1465
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: George White. And I still say he's probably should be

1466
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: really happy that Greg Black broke it up, But nonetheless,

1467
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: I digress. We were teammates and the competitive nature of

1468
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: practices and all of that had come to a head

1469
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: in the locker room one day where both of us

1470
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: had just had enough and I don't remember who said

1471
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: what to the other, and you know, just scuffling around.

1472
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: Only fight I've ever been in. But I've always loved

1473
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: and had like this brotherhood feel with George White because

1474
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: he was my teammate, and even in that moment, we

1475
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: it got to the best of the two of us.

1476
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 1: But then we managed to corral that and realize that

1477
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: we When you are on a team, you're working towards

1478
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: the same goal and you are relying on the strengths

1479
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: of your teammate to overcome your weaknesses and vice versa,

1480
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: because you need them and they need you to reach

1481
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: a common point. And that's what team is all about.

1482
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: And part of that is learning through a process naturally

1483
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: and organically of growing together step by step, year by

1484
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: year freshman year, sophomore year, junior year, senior year. And

1485
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: we can mock and make fun of till the cows

1486
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: come home. The fact that Purdue went to a championship

1487
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: game and this was supposed to be the year and

1488
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: the final four was here in Indianapolis, and we can

1489
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: go on and on about that all day long. But

1490
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: in reality, what we saw, and that what people should

1491
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: be disappointed in, is we may have potentially seen the

1492
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: end of an era in college basketball because Perdue and

1493
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying others don't as well, but Purdue was

1494
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: in that situation because they have a group of players

1495
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: that understand teamwork and who do things the right way

1496
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: and who could have left. And yes, don't get me wrong,

1497
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: Braden Smith got nil money, and Fletcher Lawyer and Trey

1498
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 1: I get it, but absolutely, without question, all three of

1499
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: those guys probably could have gone off to greener pastors

1500
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: this year in the offseason and gotten a big paycheck,

1501
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know that people would have blamed them

1502
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: for it, but all three of them said, it's not

1503
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: necessarily about that. Fletcher Lawyer said, it's about following through

1504
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: and seeing through a commitment that I made. We get

1505
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: money here, and maybe we could have gotten a million elsewhere,

1506
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: but that's not going to pay for the things that

1507
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 1: are truly important, the recognition and the presence of mind

1508
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: of being involved in the moment and trying to capture

1509
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: onto that and doing it scrupulously the right way, and

1510
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: learning from one year's shortcoming and coming back to the

1511
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: next and trying to do better and trying to be better.

1512
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 1: And this year there were times when Purdue it looked

1513
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 1: like the season was going away from them, and yet

1514
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't, because they managed to rally back, win the

1515
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 1: Big Ten Tournament get themselves on the two seed line,

1516
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: which meant within their region there was only one team

1517
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: that was deemed to have had a better year than they,

1518
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: and it was Arizona. They lost to the one seed.

1519
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: They were leading it to half against the one seed

1520
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: and they lost. Disappointing, sure, but a choke job absolutely not.

1521
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: And in today's world of transfer portal in nil and

1522
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: constantly buying rosters and players bouncing from one place to

1523
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: the next, to the next to the next, you can

1524
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: sit there and smirk about Purdue all you want, but

1525
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 1: deep down I think we all should collectively tip the

1526
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: cap and recognize the fact that if Fletcher Lawyer had

1527
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: the presence of mind to realize that as something was

1528
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: ending he wanted to just hold onto a small piece

1529
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: of it to remind him forever about it, we too

1530
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: should say there is the possibility and to an extent,

1531
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: the likelihood that what we saw with that Purdue group

1532
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: was in fact something that is now we may never

1533
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 1: see again. I think if there's a program that can

1534
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: continue to do it that way, it's going to be Purdue,

1535
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: and it's going to be Matt Painter that's going to

1536
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: be the coach that's going to do that. But it's

1537
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,719
Speaker 1: harder and harder and harder to keep up with the Joneses. Eventually,

1538
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to run with them. Now, I have

1539
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 1: said that maybe in this wild wild West of what

1540
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: we're going into, before we start governing the payments and

1541
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: the transfers and all of those things, maybe there are

1542
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 1: going to be two or three programs that are going

1543
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 1: to be ahead of everybody else, because once everybody wants

1544
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 1: donor fatigue kicks in, or they govern it to the

1545
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,520
Speaker 1: point where there's a limit on what you think theoretically

1546
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 1: are allowed to do. Those that were always standing pat

1547
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: towards doing it the old fashion way anyway are going

1548
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: to continue to be ahead of the curve. And maybe

1549
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: Purdue can be the one outlier, the one interloper amongst

1550
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: this world of this ever winning change. But nonetheless, in

1551
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 1: today's world, where we see an increased number of people,

1552
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 1: not just in athletics, not just in basketball and football,

1553
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: in business or whatever it may be, we see more

1554
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: and more people that are living in an individualized world,

1555
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: a look at me world, a likes and clicks and

1556
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: thumbs up emoji world of what can you do for me?

1557
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 1: And what can I do to better me? And to

1558
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 1: see a group of players that said, we are well

1559
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,839
Speaker 1: aware that that's out there, but we have the presence

1560
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: of mind to be consumed with doing things the right

1561
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: fashion and living in the now, to better ourselves by

1562
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: getting our education at Purdue, by representing the university, and

1563
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 1: to see through even if we fell short of what

1564
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,600
Speaker 1: our ultimate goal was, to see through a task that

1565
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: we set out for ourselves at one point as a goal,

1566
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: and to stay authentic towards the pursuit of that goal,

1567
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: as we had committed to do four years ago. That

1568
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 1: is so rare in today's world that the only disappointment

1569
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 1: I had, I was disappointed because I was disappointed that

1570
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: we don't get to continue to watch that example that

1571
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 1: was put forth by Purdue, at least in this installment

1572
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: of it. And I'm confident we'll see it in others

1573
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 1: because that's the character and the culture that Matt Painter

1574
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: has created in West Lafayette. And I applaud that, and

1575
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:52,719
Speaker 1: I think it's awesome. But anybody and I saw plenty

1576
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 1: of it. I sent a post about the accomplishments of

1577
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: that Purdue group and what a special era it was.

1578
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: And the cows came out, I mean the cows. Everything

1579
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 1: came out of the woodwork till the cows came home,

1580
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: I should say. Of people trying to discredit that and

1581
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 1: make fun of the fact that they didn't win a

1582
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: national championship, sixty eight teams entered that tournament every year,

1583
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: and one wins it, and weird stuff happens.

1584
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 2: They ran into one of the most historical Yukon teams

1585
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 2: in the pergam of that chorestory.

1586
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 1: Correct, that's correct.

1587
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 2: That Yukon team that won it over Purdue that year

1588
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 2: was just they were just a train.

1589
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 1: They were buzzsaw and it was the only one that

1590
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: was on that level. But I say to Purdue, and

1591
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: I say to Purdue fans, I understand your disappointment. But

1592
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: the disappointment is not in those players. The disappointment is

1593
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: in the fact that in that moment, we ourselves didn't

1594
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: have that little placard to hold on to to move forward.

1595
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens with the moving forward. Jason

1596
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 1: Delaney coming up ten minutes after two the Final four

1597
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, and I love everything about it. Jason Delaney

1598
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: coming up ten minutes after two o'clock. By the way,

1599
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: so about twelve minutes from now.

1600
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 3: You know, I I.

1601
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 1: Think that we all kind of romanticize in the past,

1602
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 1: Like Eddie, when you think about final Fours in Indianapolis,

1603
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: which one most jumps out at you and have to

1604
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: be Butler? Right, Yeah, I mean that's and I don't

1605
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 1: know what we would say is the peak year. I

1606
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: understand that. I certainly understand that when it comes to

1607
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 1: the Final Four. The watershed moment in the history of

1608
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Final Fours in terms of attention was seventy nine with

1609
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and you know, Salt Lake

1610
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: City and all of that highest television numbers. So many

1611
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: people wanted to see Bird and you know, in Magic

1612
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, it was it was just it

1613
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 1: was groundbreaking stuff. And I that's that's the first one

1614
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: that I remember watching Truth Be Told, and I remember

1615
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: my dad saying, like, we're rooting for this team in

1616
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: blue because they're from Indiana, and seeing Bird with the

1617
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 1: towel over his head, you know, so I knew that.

1618
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:29,560
Speaker 1: Obviously they did not win the game. But then in

1619
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty the Final Four was here in Indianapolis at

1620
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: Market Square Arena. And yes, that was after seventy nine,

1621
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: but I don't think that it was really until the

1622
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 1: second half of the eighties that the Final Four really well,

1623
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that. I mean, eighty one it was

1624
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 1: a big deal. You had Isaiah, and you had Night

1625
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: and Night was a larger than life personality, and then

1626
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: you had obviously Dean Smith in Carolina in eighty two,

1627
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 1: and that was followed up by even though they didn't

1628
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 1: win at FI Slama Jama and then the Big East era,

1629
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 1: you know, Ewing and Georgetown and Villanova stunning them in Raleigh,

1630
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: Massamino and you know everything that went into that and

1631
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,600
Speaker 1: then back into night and you had giant coaches in

1632
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,680
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties. It was such a big deal.

1633
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 1: So by the time the Final Four was back in

1634
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, by the time it had returned to

1635
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 1: ninety one, the Final Four was elevated to the point

1636
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: where it was now, man, they're having it inside big

1637
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 1: football venues and football arenas. And of course the Indiana

1638
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 1: High School Basketball Tournament had already been in the Final

1639
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 1: Four and the Dome before ninety one, but in ninety one,

1640
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: and the weather was a lot like this on the

1641
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: day that everybody was arriving for the Final Four, and

1642
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 1: it was Vegas who was undefeated, and it was the

1643
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: fifteenth anniversary of Indiana's seventy six undefeated season, and it

1644
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:53,560
Speaker 1: was you know, obviously Duke who had not yet won it,

1645
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: and it was North Carolina and Kansas, and that ninety

1646
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 1: one final four, Mike Krushchski wins his first one. So

1647
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 1: he's now starting to move into the category of being

1648
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 1: in the same conversation as Night because they'd been in

1649
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, Duke had already been to the Final four

1650
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 1: in eighty eight, eighty nine, and ninety ninety one. They

1651
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: got beat the year before then they beat Vegas, they

1652
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 1: denied the perfect season, and it was like the world

1653
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: was all the eyes were here. And then ninety seven

1654
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 1: Arizona lude Olsen, who had been here in eighty with Iowa,

1655
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 1: comes back and Miles Simon gets red hot. That was

1656
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: the last year of Dean Smith. We didn't know it

1657
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 1: at the time, but he would retire seven months later.

1658
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 1: And then on and on. You know, obviously Michigan State

1659
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 1: winning here, Carolina coming back. It seemed like Carolina and

1660
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 1: Duke seemingly were always in the Final four.

1661
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 2: In Indy, you had Gonzaga with the Jalen Suggs half court.

1662
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 1: That was during the non attended Final four, yep, and

1663
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: then of course the Butler ones. So there have been

1664
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:57,759
Speaker 1: great moments for certain But I just love the fact

1665
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 1: that college basketball and you know, everything's there's just this energy.

1666
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 1: It's like this spring break energy of and being a

1667
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: native of Indianapolis, it was it made me so proud.

1668
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 1: I was so excited just to know of it was

1669
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 1: like the constant fear of missing out if I wasn't

1670
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 1: downtown and I wasn't around it. And there are so

1671
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: many other events that take place around the Final Four,

1672
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 1: not just the Final four.

1673
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Final four fan fest that the Indiana

1674
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 2: Sports Corp Is putting on that we've got tickets to

1675
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 2: give away for we do.

1676
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Indeed, how are we giving away those tickets atty Well?

1677
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 2: We do the text line three point seven, two, nine,

1678
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 2: ten seventy And.

1679
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 1: In addition to the fan fest, if you want to

1680
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 1: score two tickets to the twenty twenty six State Farm

1681
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:43,560
Speaker 1: College Slam Dunkin three point Championship. By the way, the

1682
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: tickets are being given away. This is April third, at

1683
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 1: seven o'clock inside historic innkle Fieldhouse. Jay and b in

1684
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 1: the Morning Show are going to be giving those away

1685
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 1: over the course of the week. State Farm couldn't give

1686
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 1: some love to the one guy named Jake, I guess not,

1687
01:38:58,040 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 1: And that seemed like it would have made sense, right

1688
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Morning Show jamb going to be giving away tickets to

1689
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 1: those throughout the course of the week, so be sure

1690
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: to tune in the twenty twenty six State Farm College

1691
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: Slam Duck and three point Championships coming up on Friday

1692
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: at Hainklefieldhouse. But the final fourth set and one of

1693
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: the things I think is interesting between Yukon Arizona. We

1694
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: talked plenty about the Mullen shot and we'll probably play

1695
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 1: again coming up later. Some of the radio audio of

1696
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 1: that which was pretty awesome.

1697
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 6: And.

1698
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: All four teams. Mike the course, he's going to join

1699
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: us tomorrow, and I think he makes a really interesting

1700
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 1: point about Duke. Duke has had some of the great

1701
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 1: players in college basketball of the last ten years, fifteen years.

1702
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, cam Boozer is outstanding.

1703
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. The one thing that I was

1704
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: most impressed by with cam Boozer during this entire run

1705
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 2: for Duke. In the final two minutes of the game,

1706
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 2: John Shire will put the ball in his hands and

1707
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 2: he will he may bring it night play. Yes, ninety

1708
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 2: nine point nine percent of the time.

1709
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 1: Very polished. And that's what I mean. I think the

1710
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: Pacers when they assess the players that would be available

1711
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 1: to them in this year's draft, cam Boozer is the

1712
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,599
Speaker 1: one that they see as perhaps the highest entry point

1713
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:25,600
Speaker 1: but also the closest to his ceiling. You have the

1714
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 1: best idea of who he's going to be, which is

1715
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 1: really good. But Debonsa and Peterson in particular, I think

1716
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 1: they see, as you know what, those guys and and

1717
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: Wilson as being players that could perhaps have a higher ceiling.

1718
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 1: But the all of the players that Duke has had, Zion, Williamson, Boozer, Cooper, Flag,

1719
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:52,839
Speaker 1: you have to have elite ball handling, decision making, wings

1720
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 1: or guards late, and you have to be able to

1721
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: shoot the ball from multiple areas. And I'm not saying

1722
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 1: Duke can't do that. But if you look at these

1723
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: four entrants of the final four, Illinois, Yukon, Arizona, Michigan,

1724
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 1: all four of them have a wing scorer that's a freshman.

1725
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:22,600
Speaker 1: Now some that wing scorer, I mean Illinois is you know,

1726
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 1: probably the highest volume score of all of them in Woggler.

1727
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:32,680
Speaker 1: But if you look at Mullins, for example, you know

1728
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 1: he can score, he can shoot, and what do you

1729
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: got to do with shooters. Shooters got to shoot. Shooters

1730
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 1: have to shoot, and eventually it's going to go in.

1731
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: And that's what happened for Connecticut clearly with Mullins right.

1732
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: Mullins even said afterwards, He's like, yeah, I hadn't been

1733
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: in all game, but at least finally I got one

1734
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:51,440
Speaker 1: to go down. You know, Burrys has it with Arizona

1735
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: and he has shot really well in the postseason. But

1736
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: what they also have all of those teams. Arizona has

1737
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 1: it more or so with their athleticism and size, so

1738
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,559
Speaker 1: toutas Michigan, but they all four of those teams can

1739
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 1: space the floor and score from multiple areas. And I

1740
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: think Illinois Illinois, we can automatically look at the bracket

1741
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: and say this is a done deal whoever wins. And

1742
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm assuming I haven't seen the schedule yet, but I'm

1743
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: going to assume that the Arizona Michigan game is going

1744
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 1: to be the primetime game. That's game number two. I'm

1745
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 1: assuming there's always like one game that's like that's clear

1746
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 1: of the big one, and that's the lesser game.

1747
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 2: Number one is Illinois and Yukon at me six, nine pm.

1748
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: And then I'll guess, I'm gonna guess nine to nine

1749
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: or eight thirty nine, eight forty nine, Yeah, which would

1750
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 1: be nine oh nine. So that game number two, there

1751
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 1: are gonna be there's gonna be plenty of conversation that

1752
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: that's the championship game. Quote unquote, I'm using air quotes,

1753
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: but the reality is I would and I'm not saying

1754
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: that Illinois is even gonna beat Yukon. I picked Yukon

1755
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: to win the whole thing. If you remember, at the

1756
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: beginning of the tournament, I said connecticuts. Now why I

1757
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 1: did that was just strategic because I'm like, Okay, if

1758
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 1: you're doing a pool, pick somebody that's say like a

1759
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 1: one through four seed you think has a chance, that's

1760
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 1: going to be less popular pick. So there was some

1761
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:18,560
Speaker 1: strategy there. But I think Illinois. It wouldn't surprise me

1762
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: at all if Illinois wins it. If Illinois goes on

1763
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 1: a two game stretch here where they shoot the ball

1764
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 1: because they literally have five marksmen at all times on

1765
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 1: the floor and that ability to space and score. They're

1766
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: never out of the game because they can score in

1767
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 1: quick volumes. Obviously, they're never out of the game. And

1768
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 1: I think what they did, and give credit to Iowa

1769
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 1: Ben McCollums group was I thought Iowa was going to

1770
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:54,560
Speaker 1: pull that upset, but again, it's hard to limit Illinois's

1771
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 1: scoring and shooting for the totality of a game. And

1772
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: you saw that. I mean in the end, they just

1773
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 1: kind of they out offensively muscled, if you will, what

1774
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: Iowa wanted to do, which you know puts them right there.

1775
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 1: And then with Connecticut, as I mentioned throughout the course

1776
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 1: of the show, the theme today Connecticut when they have

1777
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:20,440
Speaker 1: a coach that seemingly was like losing his mind. Connecticut

1778
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: did not, and they are in the Final four. But

1779
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 1: as for Illinois, they do have We've talked a lot

1780
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 1: about the local connections as well. Mullins goes without saying,

1781
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 1: we know that storyline of the reigning Indiana mister Basketball

1782
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 1: coming home for the Final four, Arizona, Jason Gardner working

1783
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 1: on the staff, former All American point guard out of

1784
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 1: North Central and a mister basketball himself that was the

1785
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 1: head coach at IPUY Michigan. Yes you all know Dusty

1786
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: May head coach Michigan. And then for Illinois, a guy

1787
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:55,560
Speaker 1: that was coached by the guy who just won a

1788
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 1: state title at Cathedral. He has won one at three

1789
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: different schools, and one of the elite coaches not just

1790
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 1: in Indiana for high school basketball, but nationwide. Jason Delaney,

1791
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: who joins me now on the program, coach, congratulations on

1792
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 1: your win over the weekend over New Haven lifting Cathedral

1793
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: to the state championship.

1794
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Jake.

1795
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 12: I appreciate you guys having me on and I mean

1796
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 12: just a great, great feeling you today.

1797
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,600
Speaker 1: You know, I want to begin with and there are

1798
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 1: several things that I want to talk to you about,

1799
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 1: and not just you know, I know you probably have

1800
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: been asked a fair amount about, you know, having a

1801
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: player coming back home for the Final four and et cetera.

1802
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 1: But let's begin with this and just in coaching high

1803
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,720
Speaker 1: school basketball today. And you have done it now at

1804
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 1: multiple schools you want. At Waldron you've won, In Indianapolis Tech,

1805
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 1: You've won a Cathedral. Has the get as we talk

1806
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: about the evolution in the game of college basketball, has

1807
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 1: it changed much in high school.

1808
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 5: I think in.

1809
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,600
Speaker 12: Ways yes, I mean I think now with the transfers

1810
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 12: and stuff like that, you see that being a little

1811
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 12: more prominent. But overall, I mean, kids want to be

1812
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 12: coached and kids want they come in with dreams, you know,

1813
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 12: they come to the high school they have dreams of

1814
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 12: going to play college basketball, and I think that has

1815
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 12: stayed the same. But overall, I think the game has

1816
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 12: changed in ways, but I still think like the heart

1817
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 12: of it all is still the same as it's.

1818
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 3: Been for years.

1819
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 1: When you look at the teams you have had Jason

1820
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 1: Delaney is my guest, the head basketball coach at Cathedral,

1821
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 1: When you look at teams that you've had that have

1822
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 1: won state titles, coach, did all of them peak at

1823
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 1: the same time of year or do you kind of

1824
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 1: never know from a coaching standpoint, what aspect or what

1825
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: point of the year it's going to be that your

1826
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 1: guys are playing their best.

1827
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 12: I think it's at the end. I think you have

1828
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 12: things and trials and tribulations. I think honestly starts in

1829
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 12: the summer. You know, people say summer ball doesn't matter.

1830
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 12: That for me, that's never been the case. Goes through

1831
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 12: it quickly. Here at Arsenal Tech, when I took that

1832
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 12: program over, they had seventeen wins and three years combined,

1833
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:11,600
Speaker 12: and we had Trey Trey Lowsho was a sophomore and

1834
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 12: Jeremy Tyler was a sophomore and some other guys, and

1835
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 12: we played the preseason number one team North Central in

1836
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 12: the Charlie Hughes and we end up beating them, and

1837
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 12: that changed the whole belief system. And we got to

1838
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 12: the championship game and lost to LC in it, and

1839
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 12: like that changed the whole mindset, and so that like

1840
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 12: kind of propelled us, you know, onward. At Tech, we

1841
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 12: won sixteen games the first year, went sixteen to five,

1842
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 12: and then you know, twenty twenty two and five and

1843
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 12: then finally won the state championship. And that's the same

1844
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 12: thing I think here, you know, at Cathedral as well,

1845
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 12: Like this summer has helped us out a lot, and

1846
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 12: you know, like this past summer helped us win right now,

1847
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 12: and so I think it's you kind of start there,

1848
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 12: but throughout the year you have different things that go on.

1849
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 12: We always try to play such a tough schedule that

1850
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 12: we want to see kind of every stop we want

1851
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 12: to see. We want to be put in positions where

1852
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 12: we've got to go in tough environments on the road,

1853
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 12: and I think all that helped us out this year.

1854
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 12: But they all see kind of seem the peak right

1855
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 12: at the right time, which is March, and we always

1856
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 12: seem to like lose a couple of really good games

1857
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 12: towards the end of February and then all of a

1858
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 12: sudden it just hits and just a spark, and it

1859
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:21,480
Speaker 12: propels you to a state championship.

1860
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 1: And with that coach, you know the thing I like

1861
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 1: about it, And I wanted your perspective on this because

1862
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 1: you've you've been around. I'm not saying you're old by

1863
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 1: any stretch. I'm old, You're not right, But we've both

1864
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 1: been around the game a long time now, right, and

1865
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 1: we've seen the and I know how you involved you

1866
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 1: are as well, like just with AAU circuits and all

1867
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 1: of those things. But did we start to see or

1868
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 1: were we in the danger of seeing an era where

1869
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 1: players began to identify more with the program of the

1870
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 1: summer that they were playing with as opposed to representing

1871
01:48:57,920 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 1: their high school, If that makes sense what I'm asking.

1872
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you said you started to see that

1873
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 12: a little bit, you know, And I feel like, I, man,

1874
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 12: I've been in I went did the AU thing, you know,

1875
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 12: And I remember doing an interview Doug Mitchell and I

1876
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 12: both did it, and it was when I was early

1877
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 12: at Tech, talking about AUS and AU and the dangers

1878
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:19,600
Speaker 12: of it. But that's where I kind of made the

1879
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 12: decision that if you want something to change and you

1880
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 12: want to make something better, instead of sitting around and

1881
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,719
Speaker 12: complaining about it, get involved. And so I got involved

1882
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 12: with it, and I'm so glad I did because the

1883
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 12: kids I've met just coaching AAU, you know, Tray Jackson, Davis,

1884
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 12: Keon Brooks and then had a team with Jade n

1885
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 12: Ivy and Dre Davis, Nigel Pack, John L. Davis and

1886
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:42,680
Speaker 12: Caleb First and some other guys like that was so

1887
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 12: much fun. And those guys you know, you still talk

1888
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 12: to today. So I was glad I got involved. But

1889
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 12: my goal was always to make those guys better going

1890
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 12: back to their high school. And you know, I think

1891
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 12: you went through a period of that. And as I've

1892
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 12: watched the last couple of years, like AU is big,

1893
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 12: but it's not what it was probably five years ago,

1894
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 12: and so I think we were going into the danger.

1895
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 3: Why is that?

1896
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 1: Do you think? Is that because there's more specified like

1897
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 1: like shoe related camps and events that take place that

1898
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: have drawn away from AAU. Why would there be you know,

1899
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:19,799
Speaker 1: a decline or in AAU.

1900
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 12: I mean, I think it's more so the attendance, Like

1901
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 12: I was at the peach Sham this past year, and

1902
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 12: like I remember being there five years ago where it

1903
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 12: was like you couldn't get in the door, are there

1904
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 12: up above you? It was like line back of people

1905
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 12: trying to stare over the balcony to just watch players.

1906
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 12: I mean, there wasn't those crowds this year. And you know,

1907
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 12: I think there's so much going on. I think the

1908
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 12: college coaches, you know, most of them are recruiting older

1909
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 12: kids now with the transfer portal the way it is, like,

1910
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,600
Speaker 12: you know, teams are older than what they used to be,

1911
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 12: and so the high school kids taking a hit on

1912
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 12: a lot of these things.

1913
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 3: And so I don't think as.

1914
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:02,679
Speaker 12: Much emphasis as on AAU as it once was before

1915
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 12: all this started to happen. I mean, AAU is still important,

1916
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 12: but I don't think the emphasis is on it like

1917
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 12: it was before.

1918
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 1: Do you find that if you look at coach like

1919
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:19,040
Speaker 1: the AAU. Okay, so in AAU, I know, for example,

1920
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 1: you know you're playing in a tournament, you get at

1921
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:23,560
Speaker 1: least at least of my era. I assume this is

1922
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 1: still the same. You're playing and your team gets beat

1923
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 1: in you know, the regional finals of an AU tournament

1924
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. You can be absorbed by a team that

1925
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 1: beats you or another team. Can you kind of become

1926
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 1: a free agent if you will? And then all of

1927
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, now you're playing for somebody different. You're heading

1928
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,560
Speaker 1: to Jonesborough with that group or whatever else has That

1929
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: mentality then lended itself now into what we see at

1930
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 1: the college level with the portal where players become accustomed to, Well,

1931
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: if I didn't win, I'll just switch to a better

1932
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 1: environment for me.

1933
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you see that.

1934
01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 12: I mean, that's kind of one of the soapboxed I

1935
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 12: stand on with with our youth. I mean, one of

1936
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:04,680
Speaker 12: one of the coolest things is Trey Lewles and I

1937
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 12: started a youth program this last fall. To do that

1938
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 12: with one of your former players is awesome, you know,

1939
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 12: and so that fun for me. But that's one of

1940
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 12: the soapboxes I stand on with these kids, Like you know,

1941
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 12: you see them, they lose in a tournament. Now they're

1942
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 12: going to go put on a new uniform and play

1943
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 12: with someone else. What happens and all that is you

1944
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 12: lose the value of losing, like you know, like for

1945
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 12: us a year ago, we lost in the sectional on

1946
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 12: Friday night. We didn't get to the sectional championship, and

1947
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 12: it was a team that we thought we were number

1948
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 12: one to close out the pull, thought we were going

1949
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 12: to win it all, and we fell short. We had

1950
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 12: to sit with that for three hundred and sixty five days,

1951
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 12: Like we had to come in early morning, six am

1952
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 12: and our workouts. We had to sit with that. We

1953
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 12: had to go through a regular season and sit with

1954
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 12: that until we got the opportunity to begin. And I

1955
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 12: think in AAU sometimes, especially youth like they played for

1956
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 12: five different teams, you lose the value of losing and

1957
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 12: you don't really understand and like how bad it hurts

1958
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 12: and how like you have to work to get an

1959
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 12: opportunity again to win.

1960
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 1: Which it goes into. Jason Delaney is my guest. He

1961
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: is the state champion basketball coach at Cathedral. That goes

1962
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 1: into coach. One of the things I've been talking about

1963
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 1: today where I have so much respect for and I

1964
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 1: don't know your relationship with them. I mean, I assume

1965
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 1: you have one with Mat with Matt Painter, right, but

1966
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 1: I have so much respect for the Purdue program because

1967
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:31,560
Speaker 1: I know that it's easy, The easy narrative would be

1968
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 1: to sit here and come on the air and say, oh,

1969
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 1: they fell short, they choked that, you know whatever else.

1970
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 1: But in a world where everything that we're talking about

1971
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: has become so ubiquitous within college basketball, Purdue has just

1972
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 1: stayed true to that principle of you know what, dust

1973
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: yourself off and try to come back and take it

1974
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 1: one step further the next year. And to me, that

1975
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 1: speaks volumes what has been your observation of that program

1976
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:56,679
Speaker 1: I mean.

1977
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 12: Purdue, I mean Coach Painter is as class act as

1978
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 12: it comes. You know, like he talks about culture, how

1979
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 12: you're going to fit us, We're.

1980
01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 3: Not going to fitch you.

1981
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 12: And that's kind of like the same thing we've had here,

1982
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 12: Like we've lost some really good players to leave Cathedral,

1983
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 12: but that's just the way it goes, because we're going

1984
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 12: to do things a certain way. But Coach Painter does.

1985
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:16,599
Speaker 3: It the right way.

1986
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,719
Speaker 12: And sometimes you fall short doing it the right way sometimes,

1987
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 12: but it doesn't mean that you stop doing it that way.

1988
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1989
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 12: Coach is is another one that is fantastic person and

1990
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 12: fantastic coach who's going to do it his way. And

1991
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 12: you have so much respect for those guys, and it's easy,

1992
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 12: you know, to point the finger and say, hey, they

1993
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 12: should have done this, or should have done whatever, but

1994
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 12: they're doing it the right way. And you look at

1995
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 12: those guys staying. You know, Braydon Smith's gonna win and

1996
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 12: make tons of money somewhere else. But there's a reason

1997
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 12: he stayed to Purdue, and that says a lot about

1998
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:49,959
Speaker 12: the culture that they have up there in West Lafayette.

1999
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: Cathedral does have an alum in the Final four in

2000
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 1: Jake Davis at Illinois, who's been a really important part

2001
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 1: of Brat Underwood's group. Brat underwent another coach that I

2002
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 1: really like his approach. I don't know him, but I

2003
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 1: really like the way Illinois plays in kind of the

2004
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 1: tenacity by which he gets after things. But your thoughts

2005
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 1: on Jake Davis now coming back home, Oh.

2006
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 12: Man, I love it. I mean a couple of quick

2007
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 12: Jake Davis. The story he came in as a freshman,

2008
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 12: you know, and we had some injuries that year and

2009
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 12: we're playing in the final four of the city. He

2010
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 12: doesn't even get in that game, but we're playing in

2011
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 12: the championship on that Monday night and we have some

2012
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 12: foul troubles. He comes in, takes three charges and hit

2013
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 12: four threes. And he's starting the rest of the year.

2014
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 12: I mean, and Jake Davis is a guy that we

2015
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 12: use in his example all the time about faith, even

2016
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 12: when you can't see it and it becomes frustrating, you

2017
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 12: just got to continue to have it. He didn't get

2018
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 12: his first Division one offer until August of his senior year,

2019
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 12: and I remember calling his mom and telling her it

2020
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 12: was coming, and she was getting ready to get on

2021
01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 12: a flight to Germany for her work, and she just

2022
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 12: started crying. She was so happy and like to see

2023
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 12: him fulfill this. And he's the same kid that after

2024
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,160
Speaker 12: the season, like you know, seniors usually don't come back

2025
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 12: to workouts in the mornings and stuff, but he was

2026
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 12: at everyone because his legacy of leadership of what he

2027
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 12: wanted to be a leader for these young guys to

2028
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 12: carry it on. But to see him get this opportunity

2029
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 12: is amazing. Texting him back with him, you know, we're

2030
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 12: congratulating each other on Saturday night. And the ironic thing

2031
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 12: is his parents were so good to me that when

2032
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 12: we won the state championship in twenty twenty two, his

2033
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 12: dad asked if he could have Jake's jersey, you know,

2034
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 12: to frame it and give it to him as a

2035
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 12: graduation present, and in return, he donated brand new blue

2036
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 12: uniforms for us since he was taken one. And those

2037
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 12: are the blue uniforms that we won. On one Saturday

2038
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 12: night and so him and I, his dad and I

2039
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 12: were texting back and forth, you know, like kind of

2040
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 12: laughing and how it came full circle. Jake Davis was

2041
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 12: still part of the state championship, but also on that

2042
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 12: night he's going to the Final four, which is amazing

2043
01:56:57,920 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 12: to see him come back here.

2044
01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 1: Started at Mercy Sir, ended up in Illinois and now

2045
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 1: in the final four. Will you go to the games?

2046
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 12: You know what, I watch our guys on TV. I

2047
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 12: usually don't go to the games. I just kind of

2048
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 12: sit in the background. I mean I might try to go.

2049
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 12: I don't know, but you know, I'll be watching it

2050
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 12: one way or another.

2051
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 1: You mentioned some of the coaches that you have coached,

2052
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 1: Jason Delaney as my guest. You mentioned Jade and Ivy.

2053
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 1: Is he one that you're still in contact with?

2054
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 12: We we were a couple of years ago. Uh, you know,

2055
01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 12: those guys get busy. I was up, you know, getting

2056
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 12: going in to get some food. My son and I

2057
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 12: to get some food. And he was in a restaurant

2058
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 12: with his wife at in Fisher's and he comes running

2059
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 12: out and give him me a hug. Like, to me,

2060
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 12: that's that's the cool stuff. It's not so much of

2061
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 12: the basketball stuff. It's about hanging out with those guys.

2062
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 12: And you know, I sent him a text, uh, you know,

2063
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 12: about a month ago or so when when he was

2064
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 12: struggling there. And you know, I think the world of

2065
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 12: Jade and Ivy. I think the world of his mom too,

2066
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 12: because she just allowed him to be coached and he

2067
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 12: was such a great young man.

2068
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. It And the reason I ask it, Coach, I

2069
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen I mean, and I don't.

2070
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, I don't know the young man

2071
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 1: Jade and Ivy wonderful player for sure, but it looks

2072
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:14,080
Speaker 1: like he has had some struggles. I think that happens

2073
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 1: to a lot of coach players when they're hurt. But

2074
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, the last week or so, it looks like

2075
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 1: he may still be struggling. That's the only reason I

2076
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 1: asked that. Certainly wish the best for Jade and Ivy.

2077
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 1: Would you concur that or have you heard any of

2078
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 1: that sort of a concern? I guess about Jade and Ivy.

2079
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 12: I think there's such a mindset when you get hurt,

2080
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 12: you know, and it's an injury that kind of changes

2081
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 12: your body. You know, you go through you go through

2082
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 12: those things, and you know, we just continue to pray

2083
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 12: for him and wish the best for him.

2084
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,840
Speaker 1: Lastly, let me ask you this, coach, you know you've

2085
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 1: had great players, whether it be in the summer circuit

2086
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 1: or you know, as you mentioned Trey Lyles for example,

2087
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 1: that you've coached at the high school level as well.

2088
01:58:56,680 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 1: And I always ask this of coaches that are dealing

2089
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 1: with young people. From your observations, your experience, what would

2090
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:09,280
Speaker 1: you say to parents right now that are maybe they've

2091
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 1: got a young athlete, whether it's a promising young athlete

2092
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 1: or just an athlete that wants to make their way

2093
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 1: on the team and is working hard, whatever it might be.

2094
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 1: What things would you say to a parent that they

2095
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 1: would be surprised to know that deep down from a

2096
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:27,960
Speaker 1: coaching standpoint, is the thing that you need from parents

2097
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 1: to allow you to let their young people succeed.

2098
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:34,200
Speaker 12: Well, you kids be coached. I mean, they're going to

2099
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 12: face adversity. You know, you can't run from it. Because

2100
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 12: adversity is going to find you in life. It never

2101
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 12: stops finding you. And in the competition, like I tell

2102
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 12: our guys all the time, like you're going to compete

2103
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 12: for the rest of your life. You're going to compete

2104
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:48,640
Speaker 12: for a girl, like you're not going to be the

2105
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 12: only guy that wants to date that girl. You know,

2106
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 12: you're going to compete for jobs, You're going to compete

2107
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 12: for everything for the rest of your life. So if

2108
01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:57,720
Speaker 12: you run from it all the time, like you're never

2109
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 12: going to be able to be successful. So I think

2110
02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 12: that I think, you know, listening to the right people.

2111
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 12: There's so many people out there that you know, they

2112
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 12: tried to be so loud that you know that it

2113
02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 12: acts like they know everything. Like you've got to trust

2114
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:15,040
Speaker 12: the people who have been through it before, and you

2115
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 12: got to just allow yourself to be a parent. You

2116
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 12: got to enjoy that time because it goes by so quick.

2117
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:23,720
Speaker 12: And I honestly think, like that's the kids that have

2118
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 12: gone through here, Like Xavier Booker's dad's texting me today,

2119
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:30,040
Speaker 12: Like I said, Jake Davis, you know all these parents

2120
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:32,720
Speaker 12: Teton Aldridge dad sent me a message really nice one

2121
02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 12: last night, like those all these people who have been

2122
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:39,560
Speaker 12: successful here at Tech or Waldron or wherever have been

2123
02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:42,800
Speaker 12: like they just allowed him to be coached. You know,

2124
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:46,480
Speaker 12: they supported they they you know, supported what we did.

2125
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 12: They believed in what we did, and their kids have

2126
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 12: benefited from me. Like we had the most guys playing

2127
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:54,800
Speaker 12: college basketball this year of any other high school in

2128
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 12: the state of Indiana. Like we had the guys start

2129
02:00:57,080 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 12: for UCLA start from Nevada and Tayshawn starting from the

2130
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 12: out of for Steve Alford, he comes back on Saturday

2131
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 12: night to the state championship.

2132
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:06,040
Speaker 3: I mean, how awesome is that?

2133
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 12: You know, and Jake and you know, all these guys,

2134
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:14,120
Speaker 12: Vincent Brady on High Point, Like all these guys have

2135
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 12: been successful because they allowed themselves to be coached and

2136
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:18,360
Speaker 12: their parents allowed us to coach them.

2137
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 1: Well, Coach, I've always said in congratulations again on your

2138
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:25,040
Speaker 1: continued success, and you have earned that on your own.

2139
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 1: But I've always said this as well, and you know what,

2140
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring it up because it was one

2141
02:01:28,440 --> 02:01:31,120
Speaker 1: of the first things that I ever noticed in your coaching.

2142
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,400
Speaker 1: I love, more than life itself, the story of the

2143
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 1: fact that when you took over the Waldron program, you

2144
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 1: knew that Ralph Lux, who was a former Special Edge

2145
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:43,480
Speaker 1: student that had been the manager for decades upon decades,

2146
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 1: and you knew, well, you know what, I guess if

2147
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm taking this job, one of the things I need

2148
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:49,120
Speaker 1: to understand is that that ain't changed and Ralph Lux

2149
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:50,760
Speaker 1: is going to stay the manager. And I saw what

2150
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 1: it meant to him to be a state champion. And

2151
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: we lost Ralph a couple of years ago, but I've

2152
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:59,720
Speaker 1: always felt like Ralph continues to deliver you good karma

2153
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:01,160
Speaker 1: as well as the players you're coaching.

2154
02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 3: Oh he does.

2155
02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:04,720
Speaker 12: He would give me his little plays. He'd give me

2156
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:07,080
Speaker 12: a couple of plays every game on a little piece

2157
02:02:07,120 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 12: of paper, and like, I think those games, those a

2158
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 12: little players have won a lot of games over the time.

2159
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:15,920
Speaker 1: Coach, I appreciate it. Enjoy the Final Four and watching

2160
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 1: your former player playing in it.

2161
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:19,120
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

2162
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 12: I appreciate you having me and continuing success to you

2163
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:22,160
Speaker 12: as well.

2164
02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:25,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Jason Delaney had basketball coach at Cathedra.

2165
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:28,879
Speaker 1: We'll come back the way it sounded yesterday from various

2166
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 1: angles of the shot heard round the world by Indiana

2167
02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 1: mister basketball. Next, this was not on the playlist on

2168
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 1: the drive back from Barbara Motorsports Park. But not to

2169
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 1: say there wasn't good stuff being listened to, and this

2170
02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 1: would have been quite rocket. Actually, just three dudes rolling

2171
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 1: spring break week in a minivan.

2172
02:02:56,440 --> 02:03:02,200
Speaker 2: Now, explain who was in charge of music? Hold on,

2173
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:04,680
Speaker 2: you can't be the driver in in charge of music.

2174
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 1: Yep, No, them's the rules.

2175
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:10,480
Speaker 2: No, then I would never go on a road trip

2176
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:10,720
Speaker 2: with you.

2177
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:16,160
Speaker 1: All the more reason I'm sticking by the policy. So

2178
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:22,720
Speaker 1: when it comes to an IndyCar event. By the way, Eddie,

2179
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I have add and a bright

2180
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 1: squirrel just flashed across. But real quick question for you.

2181
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:30,919
Speaker 1: In our new location, in our new studio, which is fabulous,

2182
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:33,839
Speaker 1: right across the way, there's a building they've been redoing

2183
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 1: for a while. My eye just caught this. Do you

2184
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:40,200
Speaker 1: notice in this building? Let me explain for folks the

2185
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 1: narration of this building. There's a building that is just

2186
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:46,600
Speaker 1: to the south of us. It faces to the west.

2187
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 1: They've been working on it for quite some time. I

2188
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:51,600
Speaker 1: don't know what the building itself is, the back end

2189
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:54,640
Speaker 1: of the building, but where they've been working there seems

2190
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 1: to be at least to my eye, Eddie, and the

2191
02:03:57,240 --> 02:04:00,800
Speaker 1: second story of said building. Do you see any peculiar?

2192
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 1: There's one, two, three, four windows, and then one other

2193
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:09,840
Speaker 1: thing that looks odd on the second floor about fifteen

2194
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:11,640
Speaker 1: twenty feet up off the ground. Do you see anything

2195
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:12,400
Speaker 1: they're peculiar?

2196
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 2: Just boarded up?

2197
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:14,720
Speaker 6: Is that a door?

2198
02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:19,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a door, like what happens if you

2199
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 1: walk out of the door in that building. I'm hoping

2200
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 1: they're adding a staircase. It's just a second story front door.

2201
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. With nothing else anyway. So for IndyCar events,

2202
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:40,440
Speaker 1: when we travel and go to the venue, there are

2203
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:42,200
Speaker 1: a couple of ways that we can travel. There is

2204
02:04:42,280 --> 02:04:44,400
Speaker 1: a charter flight that takes place for IndyCar, but that

2205
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 1: usually leaves on like Wednesday evening, and obviously that's not

2206
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,600
Speaker 1: for me applicable because I'm here through Friday, so I'm

2207
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:53,720
Speaker 1: usually the last to arrive. I usually arrive at the

2208
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 1: racetracks on Friday evening and sometimes those if somebody's not

2209
02:04:58,840 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 1: working a Friday session though, go down with me. Usually

2210
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 1: obviously we fly and Barber would be which is Birmingham,

2211
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:10,520
Speaker 1: Alabama is certainly a spot where we can fly back

2212
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 1: to or from, but it's really it comes out in

2213
02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:17,520
Speaker 1: the wash because there's no direct flight. So by the

2214
02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 1: time it's one of those weird cities where when you

2215
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:23,680
Speaker 1: factor in the drive time and then you factor in

2216
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 1: the travel time for a flight that's non direct, it's

2217
02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:31,560
Speaker 1: literally the exact same difference. So I rented a car

2218
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 1: with Michael Young, and I rented it, I went picked

2219
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:37,840
Speaker 1: it up. That's why I'm in charge of the music.

2220
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:43,320
Speaker 1: And so they gave me a jeep wagoneer. I'm like, oh,

2221
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:45,840
Speaker 1: this is great, brand new. I mean, I don't brand new,

2222
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:49,680
Speaker 1: and so it was just Michael and I on the

2223
02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:53,840
Speaker 1: way down. We get down there and amongst those on

2224
02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 1: the crew Alex Wolf, who had already been down there

2225
02:05:57,320 --> 02:05:59,680
Speaker 1: but he also drove that. He also rode with a

2226
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 1: couple of guys and they were in like a mid

2227
02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:04,040
Speaker 1: sized car and Alex was like, man, it was pretty

2228
02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:05,480
Speaker 1: cramped in the back of the car, and I said, well,

2229
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:07,000
Speaker 1: why don't you just ride back with us. We've got

2230
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:10,280
Speaker 1: a wagon ear for crime. Al So, now so now

2231
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:12,920
Speaker 1: it's the three of us. It's myself, Michael Young, and

2232
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:18,760
Speaker 1: Alex Wolf. So we're leaving Barbara Motorsports Park yesterday. We

2233
02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:20,600
Speaker 1: had met in the hotel in the morning. We put

2234
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 1: all our luggage in the back of the wagon. Ear

2235
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:26,720
Speaker 1: we get back to the car at the end of

2236
02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:28,600
Speaker 1: the race, and we all had our backpack, so we're

2237
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:30,360
Speaker 1: going to throw our backpack in the way back, if

2238
02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:33,000
Speaker 1: you will. So we lift up the back what do

2239
02:06:33,040 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 1: you call it the lift gate h We lift that

2240
02:06:36,120 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 1: up and then close it. And we're pulling out of

2241
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:45,160
Speaker 1: Barbar Motorsports Park and Alex Wolf says, I think the

2242
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 1: lift hatch is coming back open. And I look in

2243
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 1: the rear ofy mirrors I'm driving, and I hear and

2244
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:56,560
Speaker 1: the lift gate is lifting up. And I got Michael,

2245
02:06:57,120 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 1: can you go back and make sure that thing shuts.

2246
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 1: So he goes back and he's trying to shut it

2247
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:03,640
Speaker 1: and it will not shut. So now I'm like, hold on,

2248
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:05,360
Speaker 1: let me put the car and park and I'll try

2249
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:07,040
Speaker 1: turning it off and locking it and see if that

2250
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 1: was nothing. I mean, nothing's working. So we pulled off

2251
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:12,480
Speaker 1: to the side. We're in the middle of traffic of

2252
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 1: people trying to leave the race, and you know, so

2253
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:16,640
Speaker 1: now you've got the pressure on you and everything else,

2254
02:07:17,200 --> 02:07:20,080
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, oh man, this is now, this is

2255
02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 1: really getting hairy. And people are honking and waving and

2256
02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:25,360
Speaker 1: everything else. And so I say to Michael, I go, well,

2257
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:27,920
Speaker 1: the first thing, let's let's secure our bags out of

2258
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:30,000
Speaker 1: the way back and put them. Oh no, they're secure.

2259
02:07:30,120 --> 02:07:31,920
Speaker 1: I go, okay, So I have to pull up a

2260
02:07:32,040 --> 02:07:34,200
Speaker 1: hill so that we can figure out what's going on.

2261
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:36,680
Speaker 1: And the bags come tumbling out of it, and I go,

2262
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:39,800
Speaker 1: I thought you secured them. Well they're laying down. No, no, no,

2263
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean like put them between rows two and three

2264
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:49,640
Speaker 1: so they can't go anywhere. So we were leaving and

2265
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:55,480
Speaker 1: as we're leaving, we it keeps coming undone and now

2266
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:58,240
Speaker 1: it's not only all the way open, it's it's going

2267
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:00,360
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and it's flying and it's

2268
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 1: like flapping in the wind. Yeah, that's exactly, thank you

2269
02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:07,800
Speaker 1: what it's doing. That sounded like me. So we pulled over.

2270
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:09,640
Speaker 1: We called the rental car place and they said, well,

2271
02:08:09,640 --> 02:08:12,600
Speaker 1: the only rental car rental car facility near you is

2272
02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 1: at the airport. So now we've got to drive to

2273
02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:18,720
Speaker 1: the airport. It's nine miles on the Interstate from barber

2274
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:24,240
Speaker 1: And so I'm driving now with myself and it's a

2275
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:27,320
Speaker 1: nice Jeep Wagoneer, right, except for the lift gate. Now

2276
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 1: the springs on it are now broken, and it's it's yes,

2277
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:36,240
Speaker 1: it's doing that. As I'm driving along, people are honking,

2278
02:08:36,280 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 1: they're waving. Now I've got the hazards on, let them know. Yes,

2279
02:08:38,720 --> 02:08:40,800
Speaker 1: I know, I look like an idiot, and look, but

2280
02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 1: people are trying to they're driving past, like John Candy

2281
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:47,560
Speaker 1: and Steve Martin trying to tell me I'm driving the

2282
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 1: wrong way to let me know the lift gates. I'm

2283
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 1: aware of all of this, right, it's doing that the

2284
02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:53,400
Speaker 1: whole time.

2285
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:53,720
Speaker 3: Right.

2286
02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:57,400
Speaker 1: So finally we get to the airport now and it's

2287
02:08:57,400 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 1: spring break time, so there's ten thousand people like turning

2288
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:03,480
Speaker 1: cars at the airport. It's complete like it's literally just

2289
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:07,640
Speaker 1: a complete circus bedlam. Yes, and I'm pulling in and

2290
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:11,720
Speaker 1: the gate is is now raised up too high where

2291
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:14,160
Speaker 1: I can't get into the clearance. It says clearance six

2292
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:15,880
Speaker 1: foot eight or whatever, and I'm like, this isn't gonna

2293
02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:19,480
Speaker 1: make it. So Michael gets and Michael said, at one point, listen,

2294
02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:24,240
Speaker 1: I can fix this. Yes, he said, I've got the

2295
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:26,200
Speaker 1: manual right here, and he's you know, he's doing the

2296
02:09:26,240 --> 02:09:28,400
Speaker 1: phone serie thing. SERI tell me how to fix. SERI

2297
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:31,000
Speaker 1: tell me how to fix, and it's giving him guidance

2298
02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:36,080
Speaker 1: on unpulling fuses and replugging in different fuses, and I'm going, no,

2299
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 1: we're doing none of that, right, I mean none. This

2300
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:41,000
Speaker 1: is in my name. We're doing none of that. So

2301
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:44,920
Speaker 1: now we're trying to get into the airport. There's ten

2302
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:47,240
Speaker 1: thousand people trying to return their car. They got flights

2303
02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: to catch. I'm holding them up. I go, Michael, you

2304
02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:50,840
Speaker 1: got to get out of the car, get back, get

2305
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:53,120
Speaker 1: in the way back, sit in that thing and hold

2306
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 1: the door shut so that I can get at least

2307
02:09:55,880 --> 02:09:59,040
Speaker 1: into the rental car return place. At the airport. He's

2308
02:09:59,080 --> 02:10:02,040
Speaker 1: doing it. Guy behind us hawking, he's flashing his lights. Hey, moron,

2309
02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:02,440
Speaker 1: let's go.

2310
02:10:02,600 --> 02:10:03,000
Speaker 3: I get it.

2311
02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:05,280
Speaker 1: We get there, We get out the guy behind us,

2312
02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 1: we realize it's Tim Sindrick. He's like, what are you

2313
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:09,320
Speaker 1: guys doing? Oh? Well, so we explained it to him.

2314
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 1: Then we go up to the lady at the counter,

2315
02:10:12,520 --> 02:10:15,040
Speaker 1: who has no idea we're coming. Despite the national folks

2316
02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 1: saying that they were well aware of it, they'd have

2317
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:20,560
Speaker 1: no idea who we are. That's not unusual, and so

2318
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:23,720
Speaker 1: she says the only thing I have to give you,

2319
02:10:23,800 --> 02:10:25,560
Speaker 1: and it hasn't been cleaned, but it was just brought

2320
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:31,840
Speaker 1: back is a minivan. So myself, Michael Young, and Alex

2321
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 1: Wolf during spring break, just three middle aged dudes rocking

2322
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 1: up sixty five in a minivan in the grocery go getter,

2323
02:10:38,680 --> 02:10:41,600
Speaker 1: and we listened to the Duke Yukon game and then

2324
02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:44,880
Speaker 1: it happened, and we're going to play some of the

2325
02:10:44,920 --> 02:10:49,320
Speaker 1: great calls from both Connecticut standpoint, Duke standpoint, National standpoint,

2326
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:53,360
Speaker 1: all of how it sounded when we finally had not

2327
02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 1: no longer do we have a liftgate that was making

2328
02:10:55,640 --> 02:10:58,680
Speaker 1: all kinds of noise and aerodynamically interrupting us, But we

2329
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 1: did have a mini van that looked as smooth as

2330
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:01,120
Speaker 1: could be.

2331
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:02,560
Speaker 2: Do you have twenty second stick?

2332
02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:05,960
Speaker 1: That's up to you because they're telling you that you

2333
02:11:06,040 --> 02:11:09,000
Speaker 1: got to be more tight on the clock.

2334
02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:12,200
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you make all these random noises.

2335
02:11:12,600 --> 02:11:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't realize that.

2336
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:15,960
Speaker 2: And I have made a twenty second compilation.

2337
02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:19,280
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, okay you ready now I will say this.

2338
02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:20,200
Speaker 1: I love me some me.

2339
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 6: Guy one wing.

2340
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:42,600
Speaker 7: I are some of those redundant Oh the vert vert Yeah,

2341
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:45,880
Speaker 7: I had to put that in there. Well, it's like

2342
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:46,880
Speaker 7: a beat to a song.

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02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:48,480
Speaker 6: You know, sure.

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02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:53,200
Speaker 1: You do it? Okay, I will let you hear how

2345
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:58,480
Speaker 1: it sounded with Braylon Mullin's phenomenal shot. Next, so while

2346
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:05,160
Speaker 1: we're rolling along and our minivan, we put the game

2347
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:07,160
Speaker 1: on the Connecticut Dude game. We actually when we got

2348
02:12:07,200 --> 02:12:09,839
Speaker 1: the car, I'm like, hey, let's check in on Michigan, Tennessee.

2349
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:11,600
Speaker 1: That was already like a thirty point game. Like, yeah,

2350
02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:15,879
Speaker 1: we're good. So we went to the old Querry playlist,

2351
02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:17,880
Speaker 1: which those guys loved.

2352
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:18,880
Speaker 5: And then.

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02:12:21,320 --> 02:12:23,560
Speaker 1: Eventually we turned it over to do Connecticut. So we're

2354
02:12:23,560 --> 02:12:25,160
Speaker 1: listening to it, and of course Connecticut. You got to

2355
02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:26,920
Speaker 1: give them credit. I mean, we were like, ah, they're

2356
02:12:26,960 --> 02:12:28,120
Speaker 1: making a game of it. You know, they got it

2357
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:31,520
Speaker 1: down to seven and then five and late in the game,

2358
02:12:31,600 --> 02:12:33,920
Speaker 1: and we're talking about their stuff. So you can see

2359
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:37,200
Speaker 1: on the dash the score itself. But I have my

2360
02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 1: phone next to it because I was using ways to

2361
02:12:39,240 --> 02:12:40,879
Speaker 1: you know, just to see if there was any construction

2362
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:43,120
Speaker 1: whatever else, because you can get a little hairy around

2363
02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:44,560
Speaker 1: especially Nashville.

2364
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:44,680
Speaker 4: And.

2365
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:49,680
Speaker 1: My phone just blows up because it's you know, the

2366
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:53,280
Speaker 1: we were using satellite radio is a little delayed so

2367
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, so I knew that Mullin's

2368
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:57,520
Speaker 1: hit the shot, and I'm like, oh my gosh, because

2369
02:12:57,600 --> 02:12:59,680
Speaker 1: my phone, I'm seeing the text coming through and it's

2370
02:12:59,720 --> 02:13:02,840
Speaker 1: just on stop. So I'm like, Mullins must hit a

2371
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:05,360
Speaker 1: shot here. And then of course about a minute later,

2372
02:13:05,600 --> 02:13:07,879
Speaker 1: and I mean, I didn't like try to hustle anybody.

2373
02:13:08,360 --> 02:13:10,040
Speaker 1: I just said, like, guys, look look at my phone.

2374
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:11,360
Speaker 1: I got. You know, we gotta wait for this here.

2375
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:14,720
Speaker 1: It looks like they want it. And we will begin

2376
02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:19,560
Speaker 1: with the way that this sounded from. Well, we'll do

2377
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:22,320
Speaker 1: the television call again, even though I know all of

2378
02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:23,840
Speaker 1: you have heard of by now, you can never get

2379
02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:27,280
Speaker 1: enough of it. Iron Eagle, Bill Rafferty there as well.

2380
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:32,320
Speaker 1: This is how it sounded yesterday. CBS was who was

2381
02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:35,640
Speaker 1: carrying the game correct. This is how it sounded yesterday,

2382
02:13:35,720 --> 02:13:37,440
Speaker 1: Brayln Mullins on the television call.

2383
02:13:38,120 --> 02:13:42,200
Speaker 10: Seventy to seventy ten seconds to go, got it cut

2384
02:13:42,400 --> 02:13:44,240
Speaker 10: and run through the pall and who better than this

2385
02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:45,960
Speaker 10: guy get it into bulga.

2386
02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:47,680
Speaker 6: Manversar ahead, who's here?

2387
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:48,160
Speaker 5: That bolt?

2388
02:13:48,320 --> 02:13:48,520
Speaker 1: Click?

2389
02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:53,120
Speaker 10: Still a bit dulls caravan two seconds, Feelings tosses it up.

2390
02:13:55,400 --> 02:13:56,000
Speaker 6: It's gone.

2391
02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:59,680
Speaker 5: Where poor Bread goes.

2392
02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:11,920
Speaker 11: In frow, utterly impossible, mar strange trauma, the deflection, the reaction,

2393
02:14:12,720 --> 02:14:16,880
Speaker 11: and that the major nudgets out of Indiana.

2394
02:14:17,960 --> 02:14:23,200
Speaker 5: They all did suit for see a stalky.

2395
02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:27,960
Speaker 1: That's how it sounded. Excellent call. Now radio version will

2396
02:14:28,080 --> 02:14:31,960
Speaker 1: begin with Mike Crispino, who is the voice of the

2397
02:14:32,080 --> 02:14:37,320
Speaker 1: University of Connecticut Huskies. This is the Connecticut radio call

2398
02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:39,520
Speaker 1: of the Braylen Mullen shot as it.

2399
02:14:39,520 --> 02:14:42,000
Speaker 12: Happens as a double them back to sar now I

2400
02:14:42,080 --> 02:14:43,879
Speaker 12: head the Caiden boozer, head of steel.

2401
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:47,560
Speaker 5: Mullens gets it. It's caravan to Mullen's.

2402
02:14:47,200 --> 02:14:57,760
Speaker 8: Long range three. Mullen's delivers bedlam dedlam.

2403
02:14:57,360 --> 02:15:02,960
Speaker 1: Here, good call, and you hear the you know, the

2404
02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:06,560
Speaker 1: combination of the shock and then the overall joy there

2405
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:10,160
Speaker 1: and the bedlam. I understand. You know there are those

2406
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:13,160
Speaker 1: that said, like, man, should Connecticut have been called for

2407
02:15:13,240 --> 02:15:15,520
Speaker 1: a tech? I guess technically some of their bench came over,

2408
02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:18,960
Speaker 1: but they were pretty they caught it quickly. It wasn't

2409
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:24,200
Speaker 1: like they stormed the court. Now let's hear it from

2410
02:15:24,600 --> 02:15:27,920
Speaker 1: the Duke side of things, because, of course, for Duke,

2411
02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:33,280
Speaker 1: and we talked about Duke has had a ton of

2412
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:37,240
Speaker 1: great players of late that were not able to win

2413
02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:41,320
Speaker 1: a national championship primarily just because guards sometime the one

2414
02:15:41,480 --> 02:15:44,240
Speaker 1: area where they have had trouble. And I thought Duke

2415
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:46,360
Speaker 1: did not have presence of mind laid in that game

2416
02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:48,880
Speaker 1: to just know they didn't have to get it across

2417
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:51,920
Speaker 1: the mid court stripe. They just could have just sat

2418
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:54,200
Speaker 1: there and waited to be fouled, or even as the

2419
02:15:54,280 --> 02:15:56,240
Speaker 1: old quaryism, throw the ball as high in the air

2420
02:15:56,280 --> 02:15:59,879
Speaker 1: as humanly possible let the clock run out. David Shoemate

2421
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:02,880
Speaker 1: is the voice of the Duke Blue Devils, and here

2422
02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:04,800
Speaker 1: is the call from the Duke Basketball Radio Network.

2423
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:07,200
Speaker 6: Hit it in they do for Boozer, bobbled it back

2424
02:16:07,240 --> 02:16:08,080
Speaker 6: for Sarron needs.

2425
02:16:07,960 --> 02:16:08,480
Speaker 3: To get rid of it.

2426
02:16:08,560 --> 02:16:11,560
Speaker 9: Dunster Kaden seven seconds trying to throw it ahead, deflected,

2427
02:16:11,800 --> 02:16:14,960
Speaker 9: stolen by Connecticut. Two seconds. It's Mullin's up top for

2428
02:16:15,040 --> 02:16:17,760
Speaker 9: the win. Oh he hit it with three tenths of

2429
02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:20,560
Speaker 9: a second ago. Tyler Kai Smith ran off the bench.

2430
02:16:22,040 --> 02:16:25,080
Speaker 9: That should be a technical. But with three tenths of

2431
02:16:25,120 --> 02:16:27,480
Speaker 9: a second ago, Connecticut has the least seventy three to

2432
02:16:27,560 --> 02:16:36,600
Speaker 9: seventy two. As Connecticut got the three from Mullins after

2433
02:16:36,720 --> 02:16:38,240
Speaker 9: the turnover from Cadaen Boozer.

2434
02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:44,920
Speaker 1: I just thought that was a complete breakdown in general

2435
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:50,200
Speaker 1: of what you would want your team to do and

2436
02:16:50,280 --> 02:16:52,199
Speaker 1: how they would want you would want them to react

2437
02:16:52,320 --> 02:16:55,879
Speaker 1: in that moment. If you are Duke and you've got

2438
02:16:56,000 --> 02:16:58,720
Speaker 1: to be better than that they were, and that's a

2439
02:16:58,800 --> 02:17:02,720
Speaker 1: fabulous team with fabuls players. And give Boozer credit. He

2440
02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:07,000
Speaker 1: was super mature and the way that he handled and

2441
02:17:07,120 --> 02:17:10,240
Speaker 1: answered all of the questions, I mean give him credit.

2442
02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:15,199
Speaker 1: But heartbreak hotel for Duke certainly, and huge one for Connecticut.

2443
02:17:15,280 --> 02:17:17,520
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Speaker 1: cleaning up and running as we get set for warmer weather.

2451
02:17:35,600 --> 02:17:37,720
Speaker 1: But John has a arrived final four week is here?

2452
02:17:38,040 --> 02:17:40,080
Speaker 1: Can I show you something.

2453
02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:45,040
Speaker 6: So I mentioned last week I fell down twice and

2454
02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:49,680
Speaker 6: was really sore from it playing basketball, I feel like

2455
02:17:49,720 --> 02:17:52,200
Speaker 6: I play younger, but I fall like I'm fifty six.

2456
02:17:52,280 --> 02:17:54,279
Speaker 6: And I said, now I think I needed life alert.

2457
02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:59,080
Speaker 6: So a listener evidently sent me this life alert. Then

2458
02:17:59,080 --> 02:18:01,039
Speaker 6: I'm going to start and I tried to find out

2459
02:18:01,120 --> 02:18:04,560
Speaker 6: who it was. Shout out to to whomever sent this.

2460
02:18:05,680 --> 02:18:09,320
Speaker 6: But it is a Wi Fi caregiver Paiger life alert

2461
02:18:09,480 --> 02:18:16,160
Speaker 6: system for seniors. Okay, right here, So I asked for

2462
02:18:16,320 --> 02:18:19,640
Speaker 6: it now and there it is. Here, here's the better

2463
02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:23,240
Speaker 6: life alert. So it says that that you paid your caregiver.

2464
02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:25,720
Speaker 6: I guess does that mean that if you fall down

2465
02:18:25,800 --> 02:18:30,920
Speaker 6: my phone? Probably, Well, I guarantee you I know somebody

2466
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:35,120
Speaker 6: who's not picking it up. There's at least one person

2467
02:18:35,160 --> 02:18:37,400
Speaker 6: out there that's not picking that up. So yeah, there's

2468
02:18:37,480 --> 02:18:40,200
Speaker 6: no doubt. So you're you're like right at the top

2469
02:18:40,280 --> 02:18:41,760
Speaker 6: of the list right there.

2470
02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:43,240
Speaker 1: So sure enough.

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02:18:43,879 --> 02:18:48,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, uh, we'll do it. I guess it's a

2472
02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 6: little base and everything right there. So I guess there's

2473
02:18:51,320 --> 02:18:54,160
Speaker 6: a little what is in there, and we got one.

2474
02:18:54,680 --> 02:18:57,840
Speaker 6: It's got got a little electronic system. Right, I'm appointing

2475
02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:00,360
Speaker 6: that son of a gun in see what happens around

2476
02:19:00,400 --> 02:19:02,960
Speaker 6: fall down and just start bugging everybody I felt. I

2477
02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:06,680
Speaker 6: was like, ah, it's like slow the slowest of slow

2478
02:19:06,800 --> 02:19:09,440
Speaker 6: motion of all time. What do you think about the

2479
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:12,720
Speaker 6: weekend other than the boy, the makers and that disappointment

2480
02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:13,800
Speaker 6: in the second half.

2481
02:19:13,800 --> 02:19:13,879
Speaker 3: And.

2482
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:17,640
Speaker 1: What I thought about the weekend, to be honest with you, John,

2483
02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:19,520
Speaker 1: is the fact that I love this final four because

2484
02:19:19,600 --> 02:19:21,720
Speaker 1: I could plausibly see any of those four winning it.

2485
02:19:22,120 --> 02:19:24,360
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised. I mean Illinois could win it.

2486
02:19:24,440 --> 02:19:26,960
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, they got they got everything. You just never

2487
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:28,560
Speaker 6: know what you're gonna get, correct.

2488
02:19:29,200 --> 02:19:29,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

2489
02:19:29,440 --> 02:19:31,920
Speaker 1: And you know Arizona Michigan. I mean that is you

2490
02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:34,160
Speaker 1: want to talk about heavyweight fight right there? Yeah, that

2491
02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:36,120
Speaker 1: could be ninety eight ninety eight, you know what I mean?

2492
02:19:36,959 --> 02:19:38,800
Speaker 6: Uh, it is cool. And I'm going to have half

2493
02:19:38,840 --> 02:19:41,440
Speaker 6: a Green County sleeping on my floor later this week.

2494
02:19:41,520 --> 02:19:42,080
Speaker 1: That'll be fun.

2495
02:19:42,200 --> 02:19:44,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're all all coming in there, oh god.

2496
02:19:45,480 --> 02:19:46,360
Speaker 5: Coming you know.

2497
02:19:46,640 --> 02:19:49,000
Speaker 1: If so? Just be sure though, if half a Green

2498
02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:51,160
Speaker 1: County's coming in, you're drinking too much moonshine that you

2499
02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:51,960
Speaker 1: got your caregiver.

2500
02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:55,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, half of that hat. If it's warm them, I'll

2501
02:19:55,320 --> 02:19:57,680
Speaker 6: make him sleep outside. Is it going to be warm enough?

2502
02:19:59,440 --> 02:20:01,520
Speaker 6: It was a warm enough some of you guys like

2503
02:20:01,640 --> 02:20:05,160
Speaker 6: we used to be sleeping, sleeping outside, but now it

2504
02:20:05,320 --> 02:20:08,840
Speaker 6: is cool to see, really in a time when there's

2505
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:11,720
Speaker 6: no Indiana representation, you do. Illano's got a couple of

2506
02:20:12,160 --> 02:20:16,320
Speaker 6: local players certainly on that team, and uh, that was cool.

2507
02:20:16,640 --> 02:20:17,600
Speaker 1: What was that was that you?

2508
02:20:17,760 --> 02:20:18,440
Speaker 6: Or was that on there?

2509
02:20:18,800 --> 02:20:19,039
Speaker 3: EDNYE?

2510
02:20:19,120 --> 02:20:21,400
Speaker 6: Was that you on the computer? Did you just log in?

2511
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:25,000
Speaker 2: We're talking about somebody just log I don't know why

2512
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:25,360
Speaker 2: I just heard.

2513
02:20:25,480 --> 02:20:25,960
Speaker 6: Did you hear that?

2514
02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:28,400
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know where you're talking.

2515
02:20:28,440 --> 02:20:29,160
Speaker 1: I was logging out.

2516
02:20:29,160 --> 02:20:31,320
Speaker 6: I don't know who he logged out of something right there.

2517
02:20:31,520 --> 02:20:32,960
Speaker 6: Let me tell you, I think you know what.

2518
02:20:33,320 --> 02:20:35,880
Speaker 1: You fell down and my phone just alerted that you

2519
02:20:36,040 --> 02:20:38,160
Speaker 1: fell down already got me hooked up.

2520
02:20:38,080 --> 02:20:41,600
Speaker 6: In if this works right here in getting this from

2521
02:20:41,640 --> 02:20:44,400
Speaker 6: a fine listener who cares about my well being. I

2522
02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:47,680
Speaker 6: want to go see Chain Smokers on Saturday night. I

2523
02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:50,240
Speaker 6: think it's some time after midnight at the roof, so

2524
02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:52,800
Speaker 6: after the JMV takeover, I'm finished at midnight. I want

2525
02:20:52,840 --> 02:20:54,640
Speaker 6: to go see the Chain Smokers. But somebody told me

2526
02:20:54,720 --> 02:20:56,680
Speaker 6: it was sold out and maybe it was a private event,

2527
02:20:57,080 --> 02:20:57,960
Speaker 6: So I need somebody.

2528
02:20:58,160 --> 02:20:59,640
Speaker 1: Can you maybe do that?

2529
02:21:00,120 --> 02:21:02,200
Speaker 6: If you can find and see if Shannon can find it,

2530
02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:04,439
Speaker 6: because I would I want to go see the Chainsmokers.

2531
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:06,960
Speaker 1: Well, the problem is Shannon's gonna be like I did

2532
02:21:07,040 --> 02:21:08,680
Speaker 1: find it and I got two tickets. So John and

2533
02:21:08,720 --> 02:21:09,680
Speaker 1: I are leaving it one.

2534
02:21:10,040 --> 02:21:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2535
02:21:10,320 --> 02:21:12,520
Speaker 6: Well, I don't think she would care about that, would she. No,

2536
02:21:13,240 --> 02:21:15,040
Speaker 6: she'd be thrilled. Let me tell you I'm not going

2537
02:21:15,080 --> 02:21:17,240
Speaker 6: to tell this publicly, but privately. The last time I

2538
02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:19,640
Speaker 6: went to Indiana Roof for a Final four, it was

2539
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:22,920
Speaker 6: an incredibly interesting story that I don't want to tell

2540
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:25,280
Speaker 6: publicly because a puddle of mud guy was it?

2541
02:21:25,520 --> 02:21:25,560
Speaker 10: No?

2542
02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:26,199
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

2543
02:21:26,480 --> 02:21:28,320
Speaker 6: No, that was in Kocomo with the red lobster.

2544
02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:35,280
Speaker 1: For him, that's the final four, his final four. What's

2545
02:21:35,320 --> 02:21:36,119
Speaker 1: on the big show today?

2546
02:21:36,200 --> 02:21:36,360
Speaker 3: John?

2547
02:21:36,440 --> 02:21:38,520
Speaker 6: So I will do Alan Carvick coming up a little

2548
02:21:38,560 --> 02:21:40,480
Speaker 6: bit later on. I gotta do Matt Bear to find

2549
02:21:40,480 --> 02:21:42,960
Speaker 6: out are they going to at least pull up a

2550
02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:45,360
Speaker 6: lot of these orange cones around here?

2551
02:21:45,560 --> 02:21:48,680
Speaker 1: It's unbelieved. Last night when I drove there's nobody going anywhere.

2552
02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:51,760
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I mean, honestly, like all of it. I

2553
02:21:51,800 --> 02:21:53,840
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. Last night I was driving home I'm like,

2554
02:21:53,879 --> 02:21:54,600
Speaker 1: what in the world.

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Speaker 6: So I got to find out from Matt Barrow what

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Speaker 6: they're doing here locally to kind of expedite all this

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Speaker 6: place is going to be Jim, You've got Illinois, You've

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Speaker 6: got Michigan, you've got Greenfield, you got Green County all

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Speaker 6: coming in here. This is going to be absolutely packed. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's and it doesn't look like it's ready to be packed.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine. I mean, just based on the crowd

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Speaker 1: right one, I just.

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Speaker 6: Think Michigan alone, you're going to get you know, all

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Speaker 6: these all these French fans that.

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Speaker 1: Are Green County alone, all merging in the chain smokers

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Speaker 1: Michigan or Syracuse guys.

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Speaker 6: By the way, I'll have to look that up. I

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Speaker 6: can't remember if I.

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Speaker 1: Thought they were LA, but I always get them control.

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Speaker 6: Michigan or Syracuse guys. I will say this, there's an

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Speaker 6: EDM guy named John Summitt. That's an Illinois guy. John Summitt,

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Speaker 6: who's a very globally popular EDM guy, is an Illinois guys.

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Speaker 1: There was a Reo Speedwagon and so is the Bandhama

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Speaker 1: from the Night also Illinois guys, right Rockford, Illinois.

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Speaker 6: I believe that to be true of you.

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Speaker 1: All right, John's up next. We will be back with

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Speaker 1: you at noon tomorrow, and I thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: to Quarry Company.