WEBVTT - Patreon Voted: Ghost in the Shell (30th Anniversary) 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.240 The Frames per Second Podcast. 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:13.520 Okay, welcome to another episode of The Frames per Second Podcast. 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:15.200 I'm your host for the evening. My name is Mike. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:17.599 Next to me, I have Spike next to Spike, I 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:25.520 have Ken next to Ken. I havena Hey, hey, Nay and. 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.960 Uh next to Nay. We have Rod. But let's get 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:35.360 back to Nay. What's going going on there? Not much chilling? 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:39.520 Are you still continuing your anime quest? 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.400 I am still in dabbling in the anime streets. I 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:48.720 haven't watched a lot to too recently, but I really 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:53.480 am trying to get through Yeah, I'm trying to get 0:00:53.479 --> 0:01:00.240 through that. K Yeah, that I'm trying to I'm I'm like, 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.800 try struggling through season one and I'm like I think, 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.200 I'm like, I don't want to watch anything else until 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:06.800 I'm able. 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:07.200 To get through that. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.000 I'm on season two, but I don't know what the 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:09.520 going on. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.080 I heard season two was a lot better. I want 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.640 to get into Chainsaw Man because I had a desire 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.240 to see the movie when it came out, but I 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:17.160 was told that I need. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:18.920 To watch the show and the movie. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.280 Yeah, but I heard you kind of need to have 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.240 an understanding of what's going on. So I was like, well, 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:24.880 I'll just catch it after I watched the show. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.080 So that is a new movie that's out in theaters. Okay, 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.000 I thought it was doing like an anniversary. Yeah, that's 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:31.880 what I thought they were doing. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.360 Yeah, but yeah, I'm still I'm stealing these anime streets. 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.680 So was this your first time watching ghost in the show? 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:37.080 Was? 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.560 Okay? Where'd you think? It was? 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:45.320 Pretty? It was pretty. I really liked they call an 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:49.320 cinema size. I like the animation. It reminded me of 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.480 you remember the Perfect Blue that you did talk It 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.800 reminded me of that. I thought the story was all 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:56.680 in all, it was cool. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.880 Okay, all right, let's go ahead, stick with the rights. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.360 Are they both wrong today? 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:06.200 No? 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.040 I started off thinking it was cool. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:11.440 But nah, but nah, but now I was like, no, 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.320 this is this is actually really good. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.960 I have my is it is it? Has it always 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:16.640 been in English? 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:17.239 No? 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:18.040 Oh? 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:19.119 Okay? 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.200 Oh no, I should have told y'all because the translation 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:23.760 is not great. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.480 Okay, translation, that makes me feel better. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.200 Oh my god, that's the part. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.320 Yeah, everything else was good, and see this is this 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.480 is one of those rare ocasions where I'm like, I 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.600 probably need the original version because the. 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:38.120 Give it to it. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.320 Oh, I meant to tell y'all that I forgot. Yeah, 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:42.480 that was it was bad. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.120 Like the dub dub version in this, I did not 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.680 like the main girl, like she sounded like Siri. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.440 Yeah, And I was just like, yeah, I think that's. 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:51.960 What I think. That's probably what took me out. I 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.120 was like, this is too dialogue heavy for it to 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:55.320 just kind of be so flat. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.079 Yeah, so I had to take I had to take 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.840 that out, right, I had to take that part out of them, Like, okay, 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:05.120 so maybe this wasn't like the way initially was supposed 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.280 to be releasing. So once I removed that, I was 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.119 just like and just looking at the visuals of it all, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.400 like the storytelling it of it all. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:14.640 I was just like, oh, yeah, no, this is this 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:19.880 is pretty good. This is pretty good. Yeah cool, all right, Ken, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:20.760 what did you think? 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:22.320 I enjoyed it? 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:28.080 You know, I think watching it, I was thinking, damn, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.720 why why didn't nobody really tell me about this before? 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.480 Which I'm probably sure that no, no, no they didn't, 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.680 but I always heard it was good. But this is 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:39.520 like what they were talking about, what they were doing, 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.920 It's right on my alley, bro sci fi cyborg shit. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.280 You know, all the ship that they were doing, the 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:47.960 discussions about what is life? 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.120 What is it all? All the other ship you know, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:55.360 the future. Yeah, this was this was it? So yeah, yeah, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.600 I definitely enjoyed it. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:02.840 Did you make it through it? 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.360 Barely? Barely? 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.480 I think my first experience with anime. 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.000 Oh yeah, so. 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.359 All some other stuff out that spite you be like this. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.880 Didn't participate in the cure then yeah, if you would 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.280 have liked to cure more harder. 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:25.720 To understanding this. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.320 It gets a little wilder. Like by the end, it's 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:34.360 like the story gets a little weirder, and this pretty. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:35.200 Much stays what it is. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.200 Yeah, okay, yeah this was flat. You used to correct 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.040 word you said. It's pretty flat. For me, nothing really 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:46.000 jumped out. The story wasn't great. I was surprised that 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:46.960 so many cartoons. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:53.520 Oh yeah, the anime is play in that world. I 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:54.640 love it, bro, that's why all the. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.800 Kids be watching this get dress and like that. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:00.440 And the funniest thing is if you look at it 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:05.960 on Hulu was it not Hulu TV? It says that 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.800 it is TV fourteen, that's what it's rated. But it's 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.760 tons of nudity in the film. But I guess because 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:16.479 it's cartoon and it's like graphic titty nudity, like he. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.760 Can't hear right, no, no, no, no, he's corrected. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.120 All right, I expect you not to like it, but yeah, 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.440 these are the types of anime that I like. 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.560 The cerebral ones like I. 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:33.039 Can't do the one pieces and the I forget the 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:34.560 one that jayalen Ke's bugging me about the fact that 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:35.839 I haven't finished watching. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:38.080 Attack on Titan. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.400 No, I gave up on that one too, but no, 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:42.960 it's the one that they made they made it into 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:47.440 a live action show watch TV Avatar. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:48.080 Yeah. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.919 Yeah, it's like, these don't do it for me. 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.200 But these weird ones that are just like all over 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.480 the place, and these are the ones that. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:56.560 I really really like. 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.320 So we're gonna go ahead and jump into this and 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.240 throw us out for anybody that wants to take it. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.560 We're dropped, that's what that's what. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:03.840 Bill. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.320 Put your ghost in my shell, Bill put it in 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:12.839 my shell. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:13.400 All right. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.760 We're dropped into a world where society has been over computerized, 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.719 but there's still a focus on nations and races, and 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.039 we meet Matoku Kusinagi, who leads a strike team and 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.800 ends up assassinating a foreign diplomat who's trying to smuggle 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.159 a programmer out. Now, I'm gonna be totally honest. I 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.120 can still remember when I first watched this movie. I 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:34.839 had to watch this part like twelve times because I 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.440 was like, I don't understand what the fun just happened? 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.000 Really, yes, because I was just huh no, I'm saying, 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:40.679 I'm sing, go ahead, U was about displaying. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:40.880 Oh. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.200 I was just gonna say, like though, I couldn't understand 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.080 why she killed him and what he was trying to do. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:48.640 And I remember when I first watched it, I was like, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.680 this doesn't make any sense. It's because I watched the 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.520 dubya the subtitles. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:54.760 It makes a lot more sense. 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.640 But well, I watched the dub version with the subtitles. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:58.520 It helped a little bit. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:06:59.040 M hmm. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.520 But I can I can see I can see why 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:02.760 because I think. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.160 This was the point. I was like, wait a minute, let. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.920 Me put the subtitles on. Yeah, what she just unplugged 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.680 herself and then she dropped, and she like, what are 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.800 they doing? What about a passport? So yeah, I put 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.240 this is when I put the subtitles on. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.160 My first thaw was like, why she had to take 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.640 off her clothes because she had in the suit? 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.640 Right, So I picked up on that like a little later. 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.800 I was just like, man, why why they gotta show 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.600 what titties? And like I didn't understand immediately, Like. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.040 But let me hit you with this. Well, it's not 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.920 really about the suit. You remember the guy that had 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:37.400 the hoodie, Yeah, he wasn't ugget. We'll get we'll get well, 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.320 we'll get to it. We'll get to it. Do you 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.360 think this part was cool for what I understood it? Yeah, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:43.560 Like you said, I ain't watched. 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.720 I should have cut the subtitles on like they said, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.640 but I did watch that first part twice. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.760 To your point, it's like why why she just shoot him? 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.080 And who was like yeah, so I thought it looked 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.480 though it made me. 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:58.640 Feel like a flux. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.320 I can see that, so I was like and I 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.320 used to love watching. I was like, oh this And 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.920 they came out around the same time, so I was 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.440 kind of like, oh, yeah, this is real aon fluxy. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:10.320 I'm digging it. 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.480 I think I think I figured that that what you 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.840 just that question you had out she was she had 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.400 the natural skin that was thermo or whatever that can 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.320 be camouflage, and he had to have the cloak in 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:23.920 order to do that. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.280 He wasn't fully like how she was. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.960 That's what it is, right, Yeah, partly, but it's also because, 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.320 in my opinion, I don't think she understands like the 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.480 whole idea of shame because she's not used to this. 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.160 Like we'll get to it, but like when she gets 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.560 naked on the boat, she just does it like it's 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:42.200 no big deal. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.280 But Bato like shifts his head away. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:49.079 I think she just doesn't really even factor in that 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.080 you're not supposed to be running around naked interesting, you know, 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:52.720 because there's. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:53.760 No sexualizing here. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.199 Yeah, it's like, yeah, the whole nude versus is a 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.520 nude versus naked that they that they teach you like 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.040 one is like nude is just like you have no 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.880 shame and there's nothing weird about it, but naked is like, oh, 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.880 I'm supposed to be covered up, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.120 All like new beaches that's what they call, right, and 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:12.000 not naked beaches. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.040 Because she was she was ghosted as a kid. 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.200 Right, Yeah, she was. She was. She was ghosted as 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:19.480 a kid. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:23.040 From what I understand, at least and she never really 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.360 factored in this whole idea of what sexualizing even means. 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.440 So that's why she's completely fine getting but assed, neked 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.120 and jumping off of buildings and shit. But this moves 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.200 into the title sequence, which shows a cyborg being created. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:38.920 What did y'all think of this or what did you 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:39.440 take from it? 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.200 I really liked the music. The music They nailed that. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.360 Like it, Like, I'm really big on music soundtrack even 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.600 when I create my videos, and it gives like a 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.040 certain feeling without the dialogue. 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:50.880 They really do that a. 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.160 Few times in this movie, and I was just like, man, 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.400 that's that's really good to be able to tell story 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:59.640 with music, draw motion or whatever. So nah, that was 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.240 the one thing that I liked about that. I was 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.600 a little confused about the brain thing until later I 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.480 kind of figured out what was kind of going on 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.160 with that because at first it showed like a human brain, 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.640 but then it showed like a cyborg type brain. So 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.200 what I never quite understood that part. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.160 That's a question for the room. Did anybody else take 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:19.960 something from them? 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.559 I didn't take that from that, But my understanding is 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.160 it's kind of like affusing and the ghost is like 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:30.480 the human element of whatever was taken from that brain. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.120 So that's where the concept of their souls and their 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.760 spirits come into into place. So and yeah, so that's 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.040 where the concept of like your soul, how much soul 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.199 do you have? Like how much of that human brain 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:46.280 human memory do you actually have in this cyborg? 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:47.599 Yeah? 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.439 So did anybody get like a representation of childbirth from 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.520 when she was in the feudal position? 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.480 Very much? So, Yeah, like an embryo type of situation. 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.560 Yeah, I can't say. I can't say I picked up 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.520 on that ming out of the water and all that. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.600 Yeah, I didn't. I didn't pick up on that at first. 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.880 Yeah, all right, I'm gonna ask Ken because Ken over 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.480 they're not saying ship So Ken, she wakes up in 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.120 a completely dark room before going to the office where 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.439 they're examining another cyborg whose brain was hacked by someone 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:19.360 called the puppet Master. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:21.160 So what do you think of this scene? 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:28.160 I'm trying to remember it because I was half pantention. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.800 That. By the way, commenter, who I told you I 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:34.120 was gonna bring it to the crew. I haven't done 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.360 it yet, but we're gonna talk to Ken later. They 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.320 were getting on to us about that ship watching stuff 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.199 half asleep and not paying attention. They're like, how a 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.720 y'all reviewing it if you're not paying attention? Here their 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:46.640 very next review. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:47.160 Here you go. 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:48.960 I was walking around doing stuff. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:50.720 That's exactly what the dude said. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.079 He's like, how do you put a movie on them 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:53.520 walking around doing stuff and then review it? 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:54.520 There are people that do that. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.320 Can I do it a lot? I didn't think it 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.600 was going to be import you can ask. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.800 Yeah, you gotta payt to this one. Well, we ain't 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:12.400 asking you no more, Spike. Okay, what did anybody think 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:13.600 it was? 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.320 It seemed very style, like a very stylized moment with 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.800 her in front of the window, and I felt like, 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.600 maybe it's watching this whole thing. I felt like, damn, 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.440 I wish I was there at the time. I wish 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.840 I had watched this when it came out, because, like 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.960 certain scenes in the Kira, I feel like that was 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.240 probably like the stylized thing, like the motorcycle in a 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.680 Kira that's probably fed into other media. 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.480 Interesting, And this was supposed to be in twenty twenty 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:40.840 nine or something like that. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:45.319 Yeah, yeah, a few years away, and it was pretty accurate, right, So. 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:50.520 It's pretty accurate, yeah with all the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.400 that's one of my favorite things about this movie. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:54.400 But yeah, I think that. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:00.520 So yeah, so the the puppet Master, they think that 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.880 he was going to target some political talks between them 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:05.920 and another nation, and they think that the pulp Master 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.839 was going to hacken and then kill people at the 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.240 at the place. But yeah, I thought that was kind 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.600 of interesting. But uh, now this one, I hope people 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.280 have some takes here. What did y'all think of a 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:21.319 conversation between Buttgutku and Togusa. 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.640 He's the one that has the revolver. 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.200 I thought it was interesting how she said that he's 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.600 more human than she was, right, That's what I took 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:33.960 from it, and her saying that she picked him because 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.959 essentially he is a flawed human and that gave her 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.840 a certain a certain point of view that other sections 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.280 or departments didn't necessarily have, right. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.800 I was confused about the section sits A Section nine 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.320 department was evil and when was it? 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:56.320 Right? 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:56.840 Yeah? 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:57.200 Right? 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.640 But but the Section nine was supposed to be the 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.640 powerful one, right, the one that that was for the good, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.960 That's the one that was on she was on the 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.280 Section nine team, right, that. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.280 Ye, section, I might get him backwards, I might get 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:12.640 him there. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.240 Section one one one section was the one that was 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:21.640 responsible for the puppet Master, and then the other one 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.680 was the one that Okay, section six created the puppet Master. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.040 So yeah, so yeah, section nine, I think section she 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:29.880 was on yep. 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.080 So did y'all take anything from them talking about the 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:33.880 revolver versus the automatic weapon? 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.520 What was that first to worry about getting stuck? Right? 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:38.560 And she was? She was. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.320 She was saying how he's more comfortable using a revolver 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.640 instead of using an automatic weapon. And I always took 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.880 that as a representation of themselves, like he's more human, 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:54.640 so he gravitates more towards a revolver. She's more a computer, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.240 so she gravitates towards something that's automatic. And she also 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:02.760 talks about how she she he hears something in her spirit, 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.600 not her spirits are her coat ghosts. So this is 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.640 already her trying to figure out, like what am I? 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.040 Is there a separation between me and the ghost? So 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.040 I think they're trying to instill this idea she's struggling 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.200 with whether or not or what she actually is. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.720 This reminded me of the first season well, all the 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.560 West world, this is kind of what. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.880 It reminded me of. Don't be like that. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.560 So the ghost supposed to be synonymous with like spirits, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:31.200 like a soul. 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:33.040 Yeah that's what I was thinking. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:37.160 Yeah, so we meet two garbage men who are unwittingly 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.560 doing the bidding of the puppet Master, which leads them 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.240 to encountering a bad guy in a coat with a 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.800 cloaking device and after some serious firefight action, but Toku 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:46.880 was able to subdue them. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:48.920 So what did y'all think of this fight scene? 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.760 Fight? One way, he chased them down on the beach 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:52.560 and said that. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.960 You don't have a family, you don't remember all anything, 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.040 and all that shit was made up. 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:56.800 Yep. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.320 Yeah, all this shit was dope. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:03.480 The action sequence here them chasing him throughout him, uh 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.040 you know, of course firing back, and then motherfuckers just. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.040 Disappeared and not seen it. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.360 I liked all of this, and then just even the 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.320 idea of questioning him and just making him confront the 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.880 reality of what may or may not be be real. 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:18.160 You know. So I thought that was dope. 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:19.720 This was the part like that. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:23.360 So the garbage man's stuff was kind of confusing, because 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.280 are they are one of them or whatever, like kind 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.320 of partly cyborg or something like that. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.240 So no, So these things I get, I think in 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.160 this society and they never really explained it, but I've 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.920 always took it as almost everybody has some part. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.440 And I didn't realize that first because they were able 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:41.280 to hack into your brain. 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.040 Yeah, yeah, because it would be some parts when the 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.360 when the miles weren't moving, I'm like, okay, what is 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:46.240 happening right now? 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.120 It's like they were able to communicate Yeah, through the 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.320 why I assumed it was like through the wires almost 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.000 like through the network without without having to actually used 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:56.760 moved the mouths. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.520 So that was a little confusing, that points. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.560 But nah, for the the action scene and all that, 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.000 man like on the beach man, the animation on that 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:09.040 was was crazy. Him flipping like without a oh man, 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.040 it was just so good and her kind of appearing 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.479 here and there because maybe like the splash might hit 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.680 her a certain way, like they did this so well, Like, man, 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.480 this is very top notch animation right here. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.480 So yeah, yeah, I was definitely feeling this part anybody else. 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.000 Oh, you can see a stepping in the water when 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.080 you don't see her like oh man, Yeah, yeah, the 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.080 animation they killed it, right, he whooped his ass? 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:32.640 She did? 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:34.479 She did? 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.400 What though? Did you say, dad? 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:38.760 He did? 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.280 Oh? Go ahead? 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:44.080 Going all right? 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.280 So yeah, So I think I found all this stuff 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.000 to be really interesting, the way that they were hacking 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:52.560 into the brain of the garbage men and hacking into 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.679 the brain of this criminal. But yeah, were you interested 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.600 in how they tried to explain to the garbage man 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.119 how his memories were hacked? 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:05.800 Yeah, I thought this the idea of that was interesting, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.639 and me just for thinking about what could potentially. 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.840 Happen, Like if that really happened. You know, you have 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.760 the Star Trek, you have the Borg of the Sideline, 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:20.400