1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Trusting the New York Times is a mistake, one could 4 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: argue impossible, Tony Katz. Tony Katz Today, I'm going to 5 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: walk you through a couple of pieces here in regards 6 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: to Israel. Now, I should be full disclosure, and I am. 7 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: I am absolutely a Zionist. I apologize for absolutely nothing. 8 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: Israel's right to exist, Israel's right to defend itself that 9 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: it is and always has been. 10 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: Israel unquestionable. 11 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: I have no issue with Palestinians have a place, having 12 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: a place to call their own. I have an issue 13 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: with Palestinians supporting terrorists, quote unquote electing terrorists and being 14 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: part of the October seventh attacks that murder twelve hundred 15 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: people and set babies on fire. 16 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: I don't forgive it. 17 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: Now. 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: Maybe it's not for me to forgive, but I don't 19 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: forgive it, and I don't forget it. And I understand 20 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: who is responsible, and that is Hamas, and they are guilty. 21 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: And the world will be better off when every member 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: of Hamas is dead. Not because I want to go 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: on the attack, I want to be left alone. 24 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: I've often made. 25 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: The statement that I want to have a steak, smoke 26 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: a cigar, and have sex with my wife. And sometimes 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: I don't even want steak. In every way, I just 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: want to be left alone. Yet I've got these Islamists 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: who don't want to leave anybody alone, who couldn't accept 30 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: the peace deal in forty eight, who couldn't accept losing 31 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: the Six Day War, who couldn't accept using Yum Kippur war, 32 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: who can't accept the fact that they are the impediments 33 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: to peace time and time and time again. And yet somehow, 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: in a world filled with bigots, it's always Israel that's 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: the problem. 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: With all due respect, that isn't the case. 37 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: This is the lie that gets told and repeated again 38 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: and again and again. And you see the support that 39 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: Hamas gets, which brings us to the New York Times, 40 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: where I started. The New York Times cannot be trusted. 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: They put on the cover of the New York Times 42 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: as if it's somehow all the news that's fit to print. 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 3: They put a picture of a very, very sickly boy. 44 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: They said that this was the situation in gossip starvation. 45 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: Everywhere. 46 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: The picture of this boy and this boy looks sick, 47 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: and this boy looks emaciated. And this boy you could 48 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: see ribs through his skin, and it is absolutely horrific. 49 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: And they said, this is what Israel is doing to 50 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: the people of Gaza. 51 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: This photo. 52 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: Then got a correction, and The New York Times on 53 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: their social media feed wrote, we recently ran a story 54 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: about Gaza's most vulnerable civilians, including this boy, who is 55 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: about eighteen months old and suffers from severe malnutrition. They continued, 56 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: we have since learned new information, including from the hospital 57 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: that treated him and his medical records, and we have 58 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: updated our story to add context about his pre existing 59 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: health problems. 60 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: Oh so he isn't being starved. 61 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: There are a series of issues with this boy that 62 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: are leading to this moment. 63 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: Huh. 64 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: I mean, that's terrible for the boy, But but why 65 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: didn't you do this investigation before you posted the photo? 66 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: Why didn't The New York Times. 67 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: Check before they posted the photo? And maybe maybe you 68 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: could have looked at one of the photos that shows 69 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: another boy next to him. As this boy is in 70 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: what would obstensibly would be his mother's arms, there's another 71 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: boy there could be his brother, and that boy looks 72 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: perfectly fine, totally healthy, not emaciated, strong, like a young boy. 73 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: How is he fed? 74 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: And yet this boy in the mother's arms totally emaciated. 75 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: Why would the New York Times allow this to happen. Well, 76 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: the only reason to allow this to happen is because 77 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: you are absolutely taking the side of Hamas and that 78 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: is unacceptable, indecent, disgusting and despicable. And if you trust 79 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: the New York Times, there is no possible way for 80 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: you to get an honest, clear story to support the 81 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: New York Times is to say, I'll throw in with 82 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: the worst of the worst, the most dangerous, the most awful, 83 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: the most manipulative. 84 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: And I'll do it with a smile. 85 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: And then you'll take the New York Times and you'll 86 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: look at this and say, that terrible story, how dare 87 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: you write that story or read that story or print 88 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: that story, and shame on you. 89 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: And then you'll read the next story and you'll believe it. All. 90 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: That's called the gell Man effect. 91 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: You read a story, you know that it's false, it's 92 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: proven false, it's proven a lie. But the next story 93 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: you read, in the same exact publication, you're like, oh, well, 94 00:05:54,560 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: that's very interesting, Like It's believable. Everything that you have 95 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: heard regarding the starvation in Gaza is the fault of Hamas, 96 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: every last bit of it. I don't say to you 97 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: that the Israeli military does everything perfectly. 98 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: This is not my argument. The IDF is far from perfect. 99 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: The IDF, however, is pushing out video showing how the 100 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: UN is not getting the food to people. How Hamas 101 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: this terrorist organization where every member needs to be killed. Sorry, 102 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: if you've got some kind of problem with that, I 103 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: don't think I'm the show for you, but I'm pretty 104 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: sure that Candice Owens is doing something you would love 105 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: to listen to. Hamas steals the food. Hamas doesn't care 106 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: if its people starve. They don't care. And yet all 107 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: this blame to Israel. I've got Mike Huckabee, who is 108 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: the US and master to Israel, saying the UN is 109 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: too blame AI. 110 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 3: For Gaza hunger, not Israel. 111 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: Will attest to the fact that there is humanitarian food 112 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: efforts going on. You recently had Ken Isaac's from Samaritans Personal. 113 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: I watched the interview that you did with him. It 114 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: was wonderful. Ken actually went into Gaza and embedded for 115 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: three days with the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation and found that 116 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: there were people being fed. The UN unfortunately wouldn't help GHF. 117 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: They had nine hundred trucks full of food sitting on 118 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: delivered sitting in the sun, rotting. Other so called humanitarian 119 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: organizations had palets of food thousands that would have fed 120 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: people for two years. The problem has been that the 121 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: UN has been sitting on its hands rather than using 122 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: its hands to pass out the food. 123 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: That's the US Ambassador to Israel explaining the situation as 124 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: it is. 125 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: But this doesn't change the minds. Facts don't change the 126 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: minds of ideologues. 127 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: If you don't know what Pod Save America is, it 128 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: is a podcast and it is a popular podcast, and 129 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: it's run by the guys who were all there with Obama, 130 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: all these Obama bros, Tommy Vidoor, who I think is 131 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: despicable in a host of others. 132 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: It's not that they're not allowed to have a different 133 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: opinion than me. 134 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: It's that their opinions are very often of a radical nature. 135 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: These are the people who I find you as anti 136 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: American and the subject of Israel and on democrats. They 137 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: think that they're being intellectual. 138 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 5: And I don't think Democratic candidates should take money from 139 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 5: APEX or vote to fund to military support for Israel anymore. Like, 140 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 5: I really don't in this government, absolutely not, and that 141 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 5: especially includes I think the next Democratic nominee for president. 142 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 6: Things I want to see Democrats at least calling for 143 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 6: is cutting off military says into Israel. It's a rich country. 144 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 6: By the way, they don't need her three billion a 145 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 6: year and hands out right back. Obama signed a ten 146 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 6: year MoU for three point three billion year. Like, so 147 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 6: we'd part of the problem here, let's correct it. I 148 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 6: would like to see talk about sanctioning Israeli government officials 149 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 6: who use genocidal rhetoric or who talk about ethnic cleansing openly. 150 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 6: We should support a ceaesfire resolution at the UN. We 151 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 6: should demand that international press be allowed into the Gaza 152 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 6: strip to report on what's happening without an IDF minder. 153 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 6: It's insane the press still can't go with the Gaza 154 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 6: and cover what's happening. And I also think like there 155 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 6: has to be a total mindset change in the Democratic 156 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 6: Party when the war ends. We are not going back 157 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 6: to the pre October seventh status quos where the party 158 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 6: is is. 159 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: We know that's not where the party is. 160 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: We understand that the Democratic Party, tommy, is an anti Semitic, 161 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: anti Western civilization party. You may disagree with me and 162 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: be like, my gosh, that's a level of overkill. 163 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: Noticed. 164 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: You don't have any argument for me if you aren't 165 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: interested in giving financial aid to Israel, and a lot 166 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: of people not interested in giving financial aid to Israel. Now, 167 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: a lot of people not in should of giving financial aid. Okay, 168 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: I don't fault you for thinking that that shouldn't happen. 169 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: That can be part of a much larger conversation. But 170 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: we're not going back to an October seventh, of pre 171 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 2: October seven. 172 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: What does that even mean? 173 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: The bigotry of the left is a mainstream bigotry. We 174 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: talked about this the other day with the chicks on 175 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: the right. When you look at candae O and Ja Tucker, 176 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: Dave Smith, these people get pushed back from the political right. 177 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: The pushback from the left is zero. It's mainstream to 178 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 2: the bigotry. This is an argument about whether or not 179 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: Israel can even defend itself. And this argument wouldn't hold 180 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: for any other country, doesn't hold in any other capacity 181 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: or any other context, And they're like minded fellow travelers. 182 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 3: The New York Times are willing to lie and. 183 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: Manipulate and edit photos, imagery, iconography to push this idea. 184 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: So the Democratic Party isn't going back, No kidding, booboo. 185 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: You are here, You. 186 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: Are right where you are in the loving embrace of 187 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: Rashida talib Ilhan Omar and Lewis Farakhan. We see you, 188 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: we know what you're about. But I will tell you 189 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: that I was most disappointed to see this from Megan Kelly. 190 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: I don't like or not like Megan Kelly. I've never 191 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: met Meghan Kelly. I go back to. 192 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: The first run for president by Trump and the debate 193 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: from Megan where Megan Kelly was debate moderator. I thought 194 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: she was terrible, did a fine show. She was terrible, terrible, 195 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: absolutely terrible. Then you take a look at what happened 196 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: to her at NBC, and NBC was abusive to Megan Kelly. 197 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: And I don't think Megan Kelly. 198 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 2: Got enough support from the rest of us regarding what 199 00:11:59,160 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: was happening there. 200 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: We took a look at what had happened in. 201 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: That debate and she left Fox goes to NBC were like, well, now, 202 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: you deserve what you get. I don't think she deserved 203 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: everything she got over at NBC, not at all, not 204 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: by any stretch. 205 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: Of the imagination. 206 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: Now she's got the podcast and now she's on I 207 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: think it's serious satellite, and she's building this. She just 208 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: hired Hope Hicks. That's right from Trump one, that Hope Hicks. 209 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: But she goes on. 210 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: Piers Morgan's show and well, this is the conversation. 211 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 7: I'm always reluctant to put too much stock any images 212 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 7: coming out of Gaza that phrase, because they're manipulated and 213 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 7: their masters of propaganda, and they're fine having their own 214 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 7: children starve just as long as they can put them 215 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 7: on camera and show them off to the world. That's Humas, 216 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 7: and frankly, it's a lot of Palestinians. 217 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: So now that's absolutely correct. The people of Hamas, these despicable, 218 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: low life terrorists who should be destroyed, don't care if 219 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: their own people die. 220 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: If Israelis die, they win. If their own people die, 221 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: they win. 222 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: They are sick, they are dangerous, they are awful for 223 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: all of humanity, and the rational person wants doesn't want 224 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: them to be like this, But they're going to keep 225 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: being like this, Well, then they have to lose and we, 226 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 2: the rational people, have to win. 227 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: Megan now makes a turn. 228 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 7: So I'm very skeptical of taking those images at face 229 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 7: value and saying it's Israel's fault. Having said that it's time, 230 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 7: it's time now. Israel, whether it realizes it or not, 231 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 7: has made itself the villain of the world in letting 232 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 7: this thing go on so long. They have lost support 233 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 7: amongst their dearest friends, and even the entire Democrat Party 234 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 7: here in the United States has turned against them, and 235 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 7: they're losing Republicans by the day here in America, which 236 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 7: is their most important ally. So whether the fight continues 237 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 7: to be just or not is almost irrelevant. 238 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: As Trump said. 239 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 7: When he was running this time last year, not yet elected, 240 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 7: time to. 241 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: Wrap it up. 242 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 7: And that's how I feel too. And I've given Israel 243 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 7: a long berth I fully understand as an American who 244 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 7: was attacked on nine to eleven in my country, was that, 245 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 7: you know, when you attack the United States and you 246 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 7: kill thousands of our citizens, and Israel was in this 247 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 7: position on ten to seven, it's fine to respond and 248 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 7: it doesn't have to be proportionate. 249 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 3: Whoever said has to be proportionate. 250 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 7: It can be overwhelming force to teach a lesson to 251 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 7: any enemy. You mess with us, it's going to be 252 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 7: extremely painful, disproportionately painful for you. I have no problem 253 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 7: with that. But what Israel's doing now is losing its 254 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 7: standing with the rest of the world. 255 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: It sounds like you do have a problem with it, Megan, 256 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: But let's start where we start. What makes you think 257 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: they had a standing before? No, no, no, they didn't 258 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: have a standing before. They were hated before. They were 259 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: hated before, and they're hated now. You're losing what the 260 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: support of Marjorie Taylor Green. Marjorie Taylor Green is wrong. 261 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: Man. 262 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: If Israel only had those space lasers, everything would be okay. 263 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: Lost the support of Thomas Massey, losing the support of whom. 264 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: And for what reason? For what purpose? 265 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: Because of the lives of the New York Times discussing starvation. 266 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: At least President Trump understands that you can't let Hamas, 267 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: you know, through all this and then say there should 268 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: be a Palestinian homeland. You can't let Hamas win like that. 269 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: You can't give them that victory. It will tell them 270 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: to commit more acts of terrorism, which is true. Israel 271 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: already knows they don't have friends, and that the friendship 272 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: of the United States is tenuous at best, not because 273 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: they don't want it to not because they want it 274 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: to be, but because progressives have moved more and more 275 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: to the Rashita t. S leab Ilhan o more Lewis 276 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: Farrikhan camp, like the Obama bros. 277 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: There pod Save America, wrap it up. I don't think 278 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: you get to decide that, Megan. I think you're making 279 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: a very very large mistake. 280 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: I think it is up to us, the rational people, 281 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: are free and thinking people, to be far more in 282 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: favor of Israel's ending this. I think you got to 283 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: understand that what the world may be saying, but you 284 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: got to understand that you can't survive of these people survive. 285 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: You still have your people being held hostage. And this 286 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: because Marjorie Taylor Green is upset. Megan, that's that is 287 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: not a rational point of view. That's not even an argument. 288 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: That's a you're tired of seeing something. I think the 289 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: Israelis are more tired, and I think the Israelis should 290 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: decide when this is done. And in the paraphrase of MONOCKA. Megan, 291 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: they're really clear. They're not going to bend an they 292 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: if they have to go at alone, they will. But 293 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: I think you're making a very big mistake, Meghan, and 294 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: I think you have really a bad argument and a 295 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: weak argument. 296 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: We'll discuss it more than the few. I'm Tony Katz. 297 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: A quick follow up. 298 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 2: The quick follow up is this, Uh, this this post, 299 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: who is Elijah Shaefer on the Twitter? X? Well, let 300 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: me see if I can find Elijah Shaefer there. 301 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: Let's see who is this dude the. 302 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: CEO of the Rift TV. I have no idea, no 303 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: idea who this dude is. But uh, but here here 304 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: just as a putting a little bit of a final 305 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: bloop on that story there about Megan Kelly. 306 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 307 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: Fun facts. The CEO of American Eagle is J. L. Schottenstein. 308 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: American Eagle. This is a story about Sidney Sweeney and 309 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: the whole genes that remembers you did the ads for 310 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: American Eagle. She's wearing the blue jeans and people are 311 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: like this is Nazi propaganda. It's like, oh, holy heck, 312 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: everyone's crazy. Liberals don't know how to have a good time. 313 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: Hot chick in jeans, Yeah, very American apple Pie American 314 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: right there, So this guy writes fun facts. The CEO 315 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: of American Eagle is J. L. Schottenstein or Shottenstein, one 316 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: of the largest donors to Jewish causes. Previously, the company 317 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: was founded by Mark and Jerry Silverman. American Eagle has 318 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: focused on supporting Israeli holidays, including giving free adspace to Khabad, 319 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: which is an organization of Jews trying to. 320 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: Get people to be more Jewish. I guess the best 321 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: way to put it, so you telling me. 322 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: That first it was Sidney Sweeney, the actress engaging in 323 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: Nazi propaganda for saying my family gave me great jeans 324 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: when they're talking about jeans like what she's wearing. So 325 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: first was Nazi propaganda, and next this is really all 326 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: just some kind of unique cabal put forth by the Jews. 327 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: And he smelled Jews with seventeen. O's right there. I 328 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: no matter which way you turn, these people have got ah. 329 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: We see the connection moment. My god, the amount of 330 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: people who need to I can't say that on an air, 331 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: but you know what they need to do and relax. 332 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: It's a lot of people. I don't know where they're 333 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 3: gonna find somebody, but that's they're from. I'm Tony Katz. 334 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: I think it's very fair to call it a step 335 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: down when Katie Perry is seen canoodling with Justin Trudeau. 336 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: Oh oh, you weren't expecting the. 337 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: Full cultural conversation of pop star slash astronaut with failed 338 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: politicians slash blackface lover. 339 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: No, you weren't. You weren't ready for that? 340 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, who who possibly could have been ready for that? 341 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 3: Nobody, I tell you is nobody expects the Spanish inquisition. 342 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: It's true. It's very very true. 343 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, what's going on? 344 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 3: Good to be with? 345 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: You? Find everything at Tony kats dot com. So this 346 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: is the story, and I'm just asking ladies, guys, this, 347 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: this is a step down. 348 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 8: Right. 349 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: Katie Perry was with Orlando bloom legalas from Lord of 350 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: the Rings. Guy can walk on snow, he can hear 351 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: and see everything. He loves dwarves. There's nothing but absolutely 352 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: perfection about him. 353 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 9: Uh. 354 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: And then they break up after years and an engagement, 355 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: and Laura. 356 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: I don't know how it worked. 357 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: And listen, I don't know how you dealt with Katy 358 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: Perry because she's kind of nuts. 359 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 3: But probably a lot of fun. Am I allowed to say? No, 360 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: it's not allowed to be said. 361 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: Are we going to pretend that the crazy hot thing 362 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: doesn't actually exist? 363 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll leave it there. 364 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: They end their relationship, and now there's a video. 365 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: Of a dinner. 366 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: Where Katy Perry, who's on tour in Canada, is hanging out. 367 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: With Justin Trudeau. 368 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: And I have questions. And my first question is this 369 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: is a step down, right, This is a thousand percent 370 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: a step. 371 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: Down for her. Justin Trudeau? 372 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: Is is the kind of guy women want? 373 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: Hold on? This real? 374 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: This is like the masculinity they've always been looking for? 375 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: Is Justin Trudeau? Nah? 376 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: Not possible. I am saying not possible. I'm saying no way, 377 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: because if it is, well, then I have to make 378 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: the statements that there are a lot of sad women 379 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: out there. If this is what they're willing to settle 380 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: for beta Justin Trudeau, I don't. It is very possible 381 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: that I just don't see it, very very possible. It's 382 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: also possible that I'm totally right and it's a step down, 383 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: because it is. How could anybody look at Justin Trudeau 384 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: and be like that that's a man looking at Justin 385 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 2: Trudeau and be like, that's masculinity. Is like looking at 386 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: Tim Walls and saying that's masculinity. 387 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 3: Same energy, all right. 388 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: Maybe not as much with the jazz hands as Justin Trudeau, 389 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 2: but still same basic, basic ballpark. Not the story I 390 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 2: was gonna get into. The story I was gonna get 391 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: into was the very, very predictable move from the leftists. 392 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: So you have the story of this guy out of Nevada. 393 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: Drives to New York. 394 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: He's known to Nevada officials for having mental health issues. 395 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: He is able to get a firearm. He gets himself 396 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 2: to New York. He is carrying an AR fifteen through 397 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: the streets. He gets himself to the thirty third floor 398 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: of a building that houses the NFL, doesn't get to 399 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: the right floor of the floor that he needs to be, 400 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: starts shooting. 401 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: He had already killed a cop. He kills three others. 402 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: He then takes his own life and leaves a note 403 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: that says, study my brain for CTE Supposedly football players 404 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: and the hits to the head. This is what's happening, 405 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 2: and it's leading to depression and mood altering and all 406 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: these things. Stories that this guy actually chased a maid, 407 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: started firing at somebody who was cleaning the building. 408 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: And people can blame it on the CT if they choose. 409 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: Who knows what the story is. 410 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: But to take things out on people who have nothing 411 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: to do with something that maybe happening to you, You 412 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: don't know why it's happening to you, and of course 413 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: you never played pro football. But then again, this is 414 00:24:54,359 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 2: mental illness we could be talking about. So this happens, what, 415 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: of course, is the most predictable thing to come from this? 416 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 2: Correct Governor of New York, Kathy Hulkel now wants to 417 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: move to remove guns. That's what this all means. This 418 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: all means we have to do away with the guns. 419 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 2: Kathy Hulkel calling for a nationwide band on assault weapons, 420 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: making the argument that stricter federal gun laws are necessary 421 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 2: to prevent future tragedies. Allow me, you already had strict 422 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: gun laws, didn't do anything. 423 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: Nevada has laws. They knew a guy was mentally ill. 424 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: You know what it meant nothing, I would argue, and 425 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 2: I will argue this anywhere. If more people had guns 426 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: on the thirty third floor, they could have stopped the shooting. 427 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: They could have stopped the shooting. Could they have stopped 428 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: the first I doubt it, the second shot, probably not, 429 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: the third shot, maybe the fourth shot. I'm starting to 430 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: say yes, could they have saved lives? This is, by 431 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: the way, the exact argument I made regarding Arizona when 432 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: a Giffards, Gabrielle Gifford's was shot. That she survived. That still, 433 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: I mean, we're going back fifteen years. That she survived. 434 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 2: That is unbelievable. By the way, what strength and also 435 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: what medical prowess we have that her life was able 436 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: to be saved. But people want to argue, well, if 437 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 2: we didn't allow guns, that this wouldn't have happened. But 438 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: the guns are already there, and the guns are in 439 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: the hands of some really, really bad people. And there's 440 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: a whole conversation about this gunman and whether or not 441 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: he was getting help getting specific parts. Was he getting 442 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: help getting parts to be able to utilize his weapons? 443 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: And so there are other people being spoken to, and 444 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let more of that investigation take place. The 445 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: problem with the argument of we should get rid of 446 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 2: all the guns is that you won't. Their argument is 447 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: we shouldn't allow the guns. The reality is the guns 448 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: already exist. Now what, well, we should go get them. 449 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: You're gonna go house to house. 450 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 3: And get the guns. 451 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: Best of luck with that. And do you think you're 452 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: gonna get the guns from the bad guys? Do you 453 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: think they're just gonna willingly give up their guns? You 454 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna hide things? 455 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 8: Are? 456 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: How lost are we as a society that we think 457 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: that that's going to happen? Do you know what kind 458 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: of child you have to be in order to believe that? 459 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 2: You have to be one heck of a child in 460 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: order to believe that possible. 461 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 3: No, here we are, and the vast majority of gun owners. 462 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: When I say that mast majority, the very obvious vast majority, 463 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: are doing no harm. Some people are doing harm. Why 464 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 2: would we put everybody else in harm's way? What if 465 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 2: everybody knew that everybody was ready to go at a 466 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: moment's notice. You can tell me from now until the 467 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: end of time that everybody in Gaza is prepared to 468 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 2: die so they can get their virgins and have their 469 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 2: reward in heaven. But they all hide in tunnels and 470 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: they throw rocks from behind cars. If you remember the 471 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: early days of the Intifada, Why does that happen. Why 472 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: do they hide when they fire? Why do they put 473 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: themselves under schools and hospitals? If, of course, meeting their 474 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: end means such a great reward, maybe they're not interested 475 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: in the reward. Maybe that isn't what it is that 476 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: they're looking for. Maybe that's all just a ruse. Maybe 477 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: it's a giant bunch of bull craft. And maybe you 478 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: would find with a lot of people, possibly not all people, 479 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: that if they thought there was going to be some 480 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: kind of violence waiting for them, they would think twice 481 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: before committing the act of violence. I argue this, of course, 482 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: with your synagogua, with your church, you have to be armed. 483 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: When you're at your synagaga, your church, you have to 484 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: be You're a soft target. But let everybody know that 485 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: this place of worship is armed, and we're going to 486 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: finish our prayer service. 487 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 8: You might not. 488 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: Don't bother us. Don't bother us. You'll find that you 489 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: won't be bothered. Now, a crazy person will do a 490 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: crazy thing, which of course leads us to the reality 491 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 2: that there are indeed crazy people, There are people who 492 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: are not okay. Even more of a reason for us 493 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: to be able to protect and defend ourselves and the 494 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: ones we love against those people, whether they're mentally ill, 495 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: whether they're part of a cult, whether they are part 496 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: of a radicalized ideology. 497 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: Radical ideology, that's. 498 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: What decided to try and kill President Trump, that's what 499 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: tried to kill Congressman Steve's calise, radicalized ideology. 500 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: I think we should be able to protect ourselves from that. 501 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: Kathy Hulkel utilizes this as an opportunity to say guns 502 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: are bad. She doesn't have the argument, she doesn't have 503 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: the intellectual argument, she doesn't have a rational argument, she 504 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: has nothing. I'm sitting in midtown right now, she stated. 505 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: My office is just a few blocks away and walking 506 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: in this morning, and you see the security guards down there, 507 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: and everyone is just wondering, you know, is this a 508 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: one off? Could this happen again? 509 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: She says? She continued, did the Governor of New York? 510 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: That sense of security is shattered when someone comes from 511 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: another state carrying an assault weapon designed only for battlefields, 512 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: but using it, intending to use at the commitment mayhem 513 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: and mass murder in our cities. Ar fifteens are not 514 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: used on the battlefield. That isn't what they are. But 515 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: the whole argument is bunk. 516 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: Oh, this is the. 517 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: Fault of other states for allowing people to utilize their 518 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: Second Amendment rights. This happens. 519 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: You know, you guys know, I live in Indiana. 520 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: Illinois likes to blame Indiana all the time for the 521 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: gun issues in Chicago, as opposed to the fantastic world 522 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: they've created in Chicago, Lori Lightfoot, Brandon Johnson, the hatred 523 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: of police, the absolute coddling of criminals. 524 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: But somehow it's Indiana's fault. Boo boo. 525 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: Indiana has its own issues. Indianapolis has been a real problem. 526 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: It's because we have progressive democratic leadership and we don't 527 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: have anybody willing to say to people stop shooting each 528 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: other in the streets. It isn't the way you solve problems. 529 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: It isn't the way you settle things. It isn't what 530 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: men do. It isn't tough. And oh, by the way, 531 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna prosecute you in such a way that your 532 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: grandma is gonna go to jail. 533 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 3: Don't do it. Don't do it. 534 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: But we have a prosecutor by the name of Ryan 535 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: Meres who won't prosecute anything. And we have a mayor 536 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: by the name of Joe hog Set, who is not 537 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: interested in anything except when he can smile and maybe get. 538 00:31:59,280 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 3: A free dinner. 539 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: And this is also a guy who had serious sexual 540 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: impropriety happening in his office. Hired a guy named Thomas 541 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: carl Cook, his deputy chief of staff to run his 542 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: campaign for a third term, who was involved in inappropriate 543 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: relations with women in the office, and investigation wasn't really done, 544 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: and then a second investigation kind of glossed over. 545 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: What happened to these women and what these women said, Oh, 546 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: it has been scandalous. That's right in a Midwest city. 547 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: But just like all these capital cities, blue cities, and 548 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: what of the Democrats say, Oh, those Republicans, they never once. 549 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: Look at the issue. 550 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: The issue here is about culture, about mental illness, and 551 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: about whether or not we should be people who protect ourselves. 552 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: And what does the left say? All those terrible guns. 553 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: That's why they're on serious people. They don't deserve to 554 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: win elections. They're not good enough because they won't address. 555 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: The issue the way it is. 556 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: They address only their radical ideology, and their radical ideology 557 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: leaves you at risk every time. 558 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: Keep it here. It's Tony Katz today. 559 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 8: And people that don't like the president and don't want 560 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 8: things to work, and you know, like i't con center 561 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 8: and Elizabeth war will come out and say, inflation's. 562 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: Out of controling. 563 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 8: The economy is getting killed by what's happening by these tariffs, 564 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 8: this three percent with the market at new highs, and 565 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 8: really we haven't seen inflation, you know, go up back 566 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 8: to three for maybe it will this week, maybe we'll 567 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 8: see it. But none of these things, none of these 568 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 8: horrible things have happened, but they still talk. 569 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: Like it's happening. It's amazing. 570 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 9: Well, the important there's an important lesson there. Don't pick 571 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 9: a congressman to be your money manager atte That's what 572 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 9: I would say. But in the end, Congress has their 573 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 9: own reasons to point out certain things. And the Democrats, 574 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 9: of course, as you pointed out, really don't want to 575 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 9: see the current administration have some success. 576 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: But there's no doubt that this is some success. 577 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 9: We're seeing moregor's power, we're seeing better equities. 578 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: Inflation. 579 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 9: Inflation really hasn't changed much past years. 580 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: Now you can argue that, but the inflation has ticked 581 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: up a little, but not to where it was. That 582 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: much is true, and compared to where we thought it 583 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: would go with tariff's agreed CNBC, Rick Santelly nowhere near 584 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Tony Kats today. 585 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: Good to be with you. But GDP at three percent, man, 586 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: oh man, oh. 587 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: Man, that's kind of incredible. Tariffs are here. Everything would 588 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: include tariff costing three percent, way bigger than I ever imagined, 589 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: way bigger. I would only disagree with CNBC in that 590 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: I want this all to work. 591 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: I want it all to work. 592 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: But there are still numbers that I look at to 593 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: bother the daylights out of me, that don't seem to jib, 594 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: that don't seem to make sense. They don't specifically when 595 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: we take look at some of those inflation numbers, when 596 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 2: we take a look at the numbers on auto loans 597 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: and on credit card payments, and when you dig into 598 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: the numbers here specifically on the concepts of manufacturing, what 599 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: are we actually sending out, what are we exporting? Are 600 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 2: people buying what it is that we're selling? And if not, 601 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: to any of the deals that have come through with 602 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: the UK, Yeah, the UK and the European Union. I 603 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: think we have a deal with Japan. Now does it matter? 604 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: Does it matter if they're not buying. These are the questions, 605 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 3: so the three percent number is nuts. 606 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: I still have questions, happy to be proven wrong, but 607 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: there are still some indicators worthy of discussing. Doctor Mattwill, 608 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: economist at the University of Indianapolis. If the avatar or 609 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: conversation stick around, because we are going to dig in, 610 00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: keep it here Tony Kats today, and and ver