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Speaker 1: I say it each and every time we are out here.

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Speaker 2: Undoubtedly I love love, love, love, love love the Indiana

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Speaker 2: State Fair. And let me give you a little history

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Speaker 2: lesson about the Indiana State Fair and the Indiana State Fairgrounds.

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Speaker 2: Not the you needed history lesson, that's but you know,

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Speaker 2: I do enjoy the history of Indianapolis. Do you know

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Speaker 2: that if you were to take an aerial of the

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Speaker 2: perfect sense. It makes perfect sense once it's explained to you,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that you're kind of like aware

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Speaker 2: Of course, the Colisseum is just across the way, but

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Speaker 2: the actual grandstand and the racetrack here, which is a

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Speaker 2: one mile oval, is the exact geographic epicenter of the fairgrounds.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So if you were to go and just stand.

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Speaker 2: In the middle of track basically where I parked, you

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Speaker 2: are the exact you are literally like in Kansas of

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Speaker 2: a map of the contiguous United States. And that's exactly

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Speaker 2: where we are right now. I am broadcasting failing is

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Speaker 2: here hanging out with me. John Griffins here as well.

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Speaker 2: But it is because you've been hearing us talk about

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Speaker 2: this all summer long, the Indiana Sired Fair Circuit where,

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Speaker 2: of course you get the pacer racing, if you will,

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Speaker 2: harness racing taking place, and this is the culmination week

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Speaker 2: next weekend or next week on the thirteenth, and then

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Speaker 2: today as well, it is Indiana Fair Racing taking place

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Speaker 2: here at the Indiana State Fairgrounds. Everything got underway for

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Speaker 2: the Grand Circuit action just about thirty minutes ago, and

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Speaker 2: racing will continue today all the way up until one

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Speaker 2: point thirty. There will be eleven different races that take place. This,

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Speaker 2: of course is a celebration of horse racing and a

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Speaker 2: heritage throughout the state of Indiana, and we will talk

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Speaker 2: plenty about it over the course of today. Good afternoon

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Speaker 2: to you. My name is Jake Query. Eddie Garrison is

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Speaker 2: back in studio. Eddie had a late night last night

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Speaker 2: because of the fever. More on that in a second.

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Speaker 2: But the big talking point not just horses, like what

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Speaker 2: mix perfectly of the two teams in Indiana because pacers

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Speaker 2: are exactly the kind of racing that I'm watching with

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Speaker 2: the harness racing and those guys and gals are nuts

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Speaker 2: sitting back there riding around those horses that are going

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Speaker 2: But in addition to that, of course, the younger horses,

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Speaker 2: be two years old. The younger versions are colts, of course,

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Speaker 2: and yesterday the Colts in practice in Baltimore with the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: and listen, call me no stra damis. I predicted it.

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Speaker 2: It was the most obvious prediction of all time. But

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Speaker 2: I told you yesterday, I said, listen, I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: right now. Whenever these happen, these teams and it's not

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Speaker 2: like it used to be, you don't necessarily, like in

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Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably smart that we don't do it

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Speaker 2: always say, to hit somebody else, to hit somebody from

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Speaker 2: When you're asking me to show what I can do

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Speaker 2: two big things that happened, probably three, the three major

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Speaker 1: But you know, Richardson yesterday was good.

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Speaker 2: we had him on, do you remember And I had

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Speaker 2: remember the one of them was driving from Milwaukee to

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Speaker 4: series would have been over by then.

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Speaker 2: Was the series over with or was it? I thought

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Speaker 2: I was thinking the series was still going on. Maybe

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Speaker 2: we were just talking about the fact that the series

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Speaker 2: we have not said Hunter Waller's name to this point

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Speaker 2: And so therefore having that sort of depth is good.

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Speaker 2: that's why they drafted him, right, but I think they

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Speaker 2: it was made respectable, but that was a game that

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Speaker 2: got away from the fever last night. Eddie Garrison, you

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Speaker 2: filmed not far from where we are right now. I thought, okay,

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Speaker 2: In I was a fan of that. But the reality is,

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Speaker 2: eventually you knew that the way that they were playing,

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Speaker 2: it's tough.

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Speaker 1: I mean on the road it's tough.

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Speaker 2: But and Kelsey Mitchell had a very good game, but

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles was able to take advantage once again. What's

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Speaker 2: with the throwing the toys on the floor now, and

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Speaker 2: we'll just simply call them toys. What's going on there?

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Speaker 2: Do we know?

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Speaker 1: Is this a league wide epondemic or just to the fever.

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Speaker 4: It's the third time it's happened this season, Jake, and

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Speaker 4: it's the first time that it's happened to the fever,

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Speaker 4: so it seems like it's a league wide issue.

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Speaker 2: Well, when she said when she said, stop throwing toys

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Speaker 4: Like they beat him twice in at Gamebridge and she

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Speaker 2: You know, the that's the thing, and you hate saying

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Speaker 1: That's what they have to avoid against.

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Speaker 2: And then of course Eddie, as we have talked about

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Speaker 2: But if I had to guess, I would say it's

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Speaker 2: that five day layoff, after they have played basically back

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Speaker 4: So let me ask you this, Jack, Is it a

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Speaker 4: four day layoff because you're only off for four.

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Speaker 1: Day's ten fair fair five days.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, four day layoff, I guess five days, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that's fair. But even still, though comparative to what

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Speaker 4: Yes, And Stephanie White said last week when she joined you, Jake,

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Speaker 4: the integration process will be fascinating to see, Jake, because

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Speaker 4: I think that'll be the best time for the Fever

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Speaker 4: just because of how well they had been playing leading

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Speaker 2: Speaking of integrating, by the way, I talked about the

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Pacers and the Colts, which are

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Speaker 2: usually the dominant topics of conversation when you're doing sports

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Speaker 2: named because of the hardest racing heritage in Indiana, which

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Speaker 2: late eighteen hundreds. It has been taking place here at

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Speaker 2: and from two thousand and seven to twenty twenty they're

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Speaker 1: And this is a big day. It's pretty cool to

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Speaker 5: It is an awesome day when you have great weather

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Speaker 2: It is very cool. And you know, I think when

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Speaker 2: you watch this, take me through what's going to happen today?

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Speaker 2: Were going to see eleven different races today, right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: right because you have the Fox Stakes. If I'm mistaken,

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Speaker 2: you have the Ralph Wilfong memorial that takes place with

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Speaker 5: Right, Yes, yes, So today we have the ninety ninth

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Speaker 5: running of the Indiana Fox Steak, which is a race

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Speaker 5: that was created here in Indiana and has a long history.

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Speaker 5: Like you said, the county fairs have been racing since

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Speaker 5: the mid eighteen hundreds, the State Fair over two hundred

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Speaker 5: here is what I'm told. So every state fair has

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, Dan Patch is the the Tiger

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, He's credited to being one of the first sports

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Speaker 2: You know, when you think about and I know this

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize this Jessica, and this show's you know,

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Speaker 1: Do we see some of that advantage in Indiana?

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Speaker 2: And when you see the growth of horse breeding and

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Speaker 6: I think the.

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Speaker 5: Way that the Indiana legislature has positioned Indiana so the

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Speaker 6: So that has created a surge of.

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Speaker 5: Money into the racing industry, which has then come back

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Speaker 2: What it gets through, which is amazing, right, Purdue that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 5: If you a lot of people think about when you

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Speaker 2: Is there a particular area of Indiana that is more

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Speaker 6: Depending on the breed.

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Speaker 5: You know, you have some clusters of farms in southern Indiana,

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Speaker 5: There are racehorses in all ninety two counties in the state,

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Speaker 2: Every corner and literally, like I mean the county. It's

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Speaker 5: Yes, there is, and these horses are getting I know

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Speaker 5: so that will happen next week.

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Speaker 1: Here they took the Governor's Cup, right.

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Speaker 5: Governors come so those horses are earning points to come

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Speaker 2: So basically, Eddie, what she's saying is that the county

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Speaker 1: The off season.

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Speaker 2: I know this is a really dumb question, but I'm

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Speaker 5: Around, they will actually so in the cold. Then we'll

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: until you're going to see any profit from those horses.

438
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Speaker 5: So what will happen is this fall they'll start bringing

439
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Speaker 5: those year leans in and they'll start breaking them, which

440
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,959
Speaker 5: is basically getting them used to their equipment, used to

441
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 5: the race bike that you see them pull, those types

442
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 5: of things, and they'll start training them down so they

443
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Speaker 5: will go winter miles.

444
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Speaker 3: Now.

445
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 5: Of course, if there's five feet of snow on the ground,

446
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 5: they won't do it. But there's a year round track

447
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 5: maintenance here at the State Fairgrounds. Some of the other

448
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 5: training facilities, who's your park has year around training. So

449
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 5: these trainers it is a three hundred and sixty.

450
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Speaker 6: Five day a year job. It is an everyday your job.

451
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Speaker 2: And much just in terms of how people can both

452
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Speaker 2: learn more and start following it because it is really fun.

453
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Speaker 2: I mean you just watch it in general and see

454
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Speaker 2: you know, I call auto racing for a living, right

455
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Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here and I'm watching it and I'm

456
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: listening to Rick, and I'm thinking, I don't know how

457
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: he does this because of the fact that you're literally

458
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: going five to six wide when they come around the turn.

459
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a whole different animal. Pardon the pun.

460
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Speaker 2: But if people want to start to find out more

461
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Speaker 2: and continue this growth, that could do so how.

462
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Speaker 6: Or where I think your first step.

463
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Speaker 5: So, the Horsemen's Association and a standard Association has a

464
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Speaker 5: really good website that is www dot Indiana Harness dot com.

465
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Speaker 5: You can watch the live racing from the racetracks. There's

466
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Speaker 5: some links there to you know, link you to the

467
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 5: Commission's web page. People can feel free to always reach

468
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Speaker 5: out to me. Where very helpful in trying to introduce

469
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Speaker 5: people to the sport. You can visit one of the racetracks,

470
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Speaker 5: visit the county fairs. We have racing at the county

471
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Speaker 5: fairs until the first weekend in of October, so feel

472
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Speaker 5: free to go out to these county fairs. That's a

473
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Speaker 5: great place where you can get up close and personal

474
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Speaker 5: with the horses. So you don't have the licensing restrictions

475
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Speaker 5: that you have at the perimutual track. So you know,

476
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Speaker 5: if you were here at the State Fair today, you

477
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 5: can walk back in the barn area and see those

478
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Speaker 5: horses up close and personal. If you come visit the

479
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Speaker 5: State Fair in the next couple of weeks, there's barn tours.

480
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Speaker 5: You can walk into a barn and see a standardbred racehorse,

481
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 5: and there's people in there from the industry that's more

482
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Speaker 5: than willing to help answer your.

483
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Speaker 2: Questions, which are fascinating, by the way, the bar to

484
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Speaker 2: everything that goes in to it, because I've done barn

485
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Speaker 2: tours and it really is remarkable.

486
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Speaker 1: Lastly, let me ask you this.

487
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Speaker 2: You know everybody when it comes to horse racing that

488
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: everybody always says, what would be the name of your

489
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: race horse? I mean that's a very important step, right,

490
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Speaker 2: So I have I've thought long and hard about this

491
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 2: over time, and you, being Jessica Barnes involved in this,

492
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Speaker 2: would be the ultimate judge. And and you know critique

493
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: of my of my horse racing name. Okay, Now I

494
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: have one that's PG. Thirteen, so I can't say that

495
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: on the radio. But I have another horse racing name

496
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Speaker 2: that I've come up with. You ready, okay, unequal to equine?

497
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Speaker 5: Oh that's cool. Now you're going to have to when

498
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 5: you talk to Rick today. You're going to talk to

499
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 5: Rick later today, aren't you a the counser ask him

500
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 5: what he thinks about that, because he's had some struggles

501
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 5: with names over the years. So there's some names that

502
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 5: you've got to be able to say him really fast,

503
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 5: because sometimes names don't do well really fast and they

504
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Speaker 5: get not PG rated when you say them.

505
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Speaker 2: Really, it's like when when when Santiago Yorutia was taking

506
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Speaker 2: on battle, you know, side by side with you know,

507
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Speaker 2: Mario Marias or something. I can get tongue tied. So

508
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Speaker 2: I get that. But I think equal to equines pretty easy.

509
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Speaker 6: Right, I think that's pretty good. I think that's bad.

510
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: John Griffin gives to the thumbs up as well.

511
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, somebody may have to steal that and use that.

512
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: U E squared to it for his friends. But just

513
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 2: unequal equine is what I'm going with. Okay, So the

514
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: rest of the day today, Jessica, and then next week

515
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Speaker 2: obviously week from today Governor's Cup, everything taking place? What

516
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: does take place at the fair between now and then then?

517
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: Or people are we back to, you know, making sure

518
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Speaker 2: that we're also paying attention to the County Fair.

519
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Speaker 7: Grounds.

520
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 6: There is a County Fair race on.

521
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Speaker 5: Friday at Portland, so there's one more stop with the

522
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Speaker 5: Governor's Cup. So if you're in that area, there will

523
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 5: be horses racing there. There'll be barn tours out here

524
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 5: at the State Fair all weekend, so you can stop

525
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 5: into the horse racing barns and see those, and then

526
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Speaker 5: we'll be back here for the Governor's Cup. There is

527
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Speaker 5: this Friday. I have to I'd be remiss if I

528
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 5: didn't mention it. At Hoo's Your Park? They have their

529
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 5: three hundred thousand dollars damn Patch stakes at Who's Your

530
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Speaker 5: Park the Friday evening. That's a five thirty post time

531
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Speaker 5: free admission to the racetrack. So if you're in the

532
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 5: Anderson area you can stop in and see some great

533
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 5: horness racing up there.

534
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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, Eddie Ray six. You tell me, Eddie,

535
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: which one of these names you like best? We got

536
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Speaker 2: Heart Song, Cas the Boss, Limestone Gal watching Blue Chip.

537
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: I hope that's not the movie that was terrible. By

538
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: the way, good as you Princess in pink and can't

539
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: touch these?

540
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Speaker 1: Eddie, which one are you going with there? Of those seven?

541
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Speaker 4: I think I'm going to go with the horse that

542
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 4: is sounds like he's empcy hammer.

543
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: Can't touch these, can't touch these all right, We'll see

544
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: if he dances his way to victory. Here he's in,

545
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: starting out and on the outside heart Song, of course,

546
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Speaker 2: because of our connection to Franciscan health.

547
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Speaker 1: I'll go with Heart Song as my winner for this.

548
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Speaker 2: Jessica, man, I am, I say, man, I am thrilled

549
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: to be out here. I truly do appreciate you guys

550
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: letting us kind of take a peek in on everything

551
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: that's been taking place this summer and coming out and

552
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: enjoying this as well, because I love the Indiana State

553
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: Fair and I love the heritage in the history of

554
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: sport in Indiana, and that includes horse racing first and foremost,

555
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: because it's been around before the eighty five hundred.

556
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, they were doing it. So

557
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: certainly appreciate the time.

558
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Speaker 6: You're welcome. We appreciate you coming out here, Jessee.

559
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: It's great, Jessica Barnes.

560
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Speaker 2: As race number six about to get underway, we will

561
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Speaker 2: take a quick recess.

562
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Speaker 1: I'll let you know when we come back. If Eddie's

563
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: horse wins.

564
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Speaker 2: Can't touch these maybe I'll go to the window Eddie

565
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: and put one down for you. And we've got plenty

566
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: of people talk to, plenty of people to talk to

567
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: over the course of today. But when we come back,

568
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: who was it, In fact it was making a difference

569
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: yesterday for the colts.

570
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: We will get into that.

571
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Speaker 2: James Boy going to join us on the show as well,

572
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Speaker 2: live from the Indiana State fair Grounds as we are

573
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Speaker 2: here for all of the harness racing taking place between now.

574
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Speaker 2: In one thirty is when race number eleven will be run,

575
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: and then at two thirty today we'll let you know

576
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: who it is that has won our State Fair prize

577
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: pack for the Governor's Cup, which is a week from today.

578
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: All of it here Querian Company. You're listening to it

579
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Speaker 2: a ninety three five and one oh seven to five

580
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Speaker 2: of the fan. Yes, Eddie Garrison is not dancing dancing,

581
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: that's because I can't touch these was touched does show,

582
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: I should say, but placing in that race, it was

583
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: in fact heart Song as good as you winning. So

584
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: race number six is complete here at the Fairgrounds. This

585
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: is cool, This is super cool to watch all of

586
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: this taking place. And I think I'm most excited as

587
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: excited as I've been in a long time in terms

588
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: of guests to have Rick Uppel, who is the voice

589
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: that you hear doing the races? We've been playing them

590
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: all summer long. Eddie, you're impersonation of him again? If

591
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: you could go ahead again, Eddie, please, it's show tap.

592
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: That's pretty strong him saying it. Do you have the

593
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: two cuts of him saying it, because that's pretty strong

594
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: on me. Play those, but go ahead and play him

595
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: and we can do a little compare and contrast.

596
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Speaker 4: I think I have them. I didn't. I forgot to

597
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 4: save them. It was like, uh, what committed the cardinals?

598
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 2: Sin? Yes, I'm sorry, what do you What are you

599
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: like cleaning out your your inbox or something? Did you

600
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: get some you know what it was? But here's what

601
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: And you tell me if I should be concerned by this.

602
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: I got a an email today that said that I

603
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: need to settle up some sort of bill with an

604
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: online company or else I'm gonna lose all my photos

605
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: and videos on my phone because I'm out of storage. Now.

606
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: That seems like a scam. Is that a scam?

607
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 4: You never know, Jake. But I did find it. I

608
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: did save it.

609
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so let's hear you first, Eddie, let's hear

610
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: you first. All right, here we go, it's show time,

611
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: show time. Okay, a little more roll of the R

612
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: from him. Yeah right, yeah, it's almost like a roll

613
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: of the t. It's it's more of a you know,

614
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: and there they go that kind of thing.

615
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: Right, there's there's like a flim I guess, build up

616
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Speaker 4: in the throat.

617
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Speaker 2: There now, not flim. Now, I'm looking at regulars to a

618
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: healthy guy, not not flim. No, we try not. We

619
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Speaker 2: stay away from flim chat right, what it's Unlet's it's

620
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: January when apparently, and I didn't know this, the horses

621
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: are out running.

622
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

623
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Speaker 2: I had no idea that the horses are running even

624
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: in the wintertime. I mean, I guess I should have

625
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: figured out that. You know, it wasn't like people were

626
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: stopping going out in eighteen forty nine to find gold

627
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: in the wintertime. I mean they were, you know, I

628
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: played Oregon Trail. The horses run all year long. I

629
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: guess they have.

630
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Speaker 4: To embrace all the conditions, and they have to, you know,

631
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: they have to overcome so much adversity throughout the course

632
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: the year. Is just to stay in shape. Care to us,

633
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: I mean, we have to do for you of being

634
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: able to go inside to a nice you know, heated

635
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: a gym or whatever it is, or air conditioned.

636
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: You know. I think horses are such cool animals, man.

637
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: They are cool animals, no question about that. Colts yesterday

638
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: Ravens practice out in Baltimore and they are getting prepared,

639
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: of course for preseason game number one, that will be

640
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. And James sent me a text that said

641
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: he disagrees with me. And let me explain James what

642
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: I meant, because I get what James is saying. Allow

643
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: me to read the text. I said earlier in the

644
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: show that I thought that Anthony Richardson, if there is

645
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: any sort of a tie, that Anthony Richardson for sure

646
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: would be the guy that they go with because they

647
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: have more invested in Anthony Richardson. And James wrote me

648
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: a thing and said, I would disagree. The Colts had

649
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: more invested in Richardson. They're paying Jones fourteen million dollars

650
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: this year. Yes, Richardson was a high draft choice that

651
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: I believe they're expecting Jones to start. I get it,

652
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: and I'm that is a very good point. But I

653
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: think you have to look at what I mentioned yesterday,

654
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Speaker 2: and I think Nick Conjon had put it out on

655
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Speaker 2: the ex post Twitter of me talking about Richardson and

656
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Speaker 2: saying it's almost symbolically what they have invested in him.

657
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Speaker 1: And the reality is this.

658
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it's fair, but there's a reality

659
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Speaker 2: when it comes to Chris Ballard and the Colts brass

660
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: and that reality is Chris Ballard knows this, and I'm

661
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: assuming that he assumes Jim Irsay thought this, and yes,

662
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: it is unfortunate. You know that there is the variable

663
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: now with the passing of Jim Irsay. But when Chris

664
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Speaker 2: Ballard came to the Indianapolis Colts. I was thinking about

665
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: this today. Actually this morning, I was somewhere and I

666
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: saw a guy wearing a T shirt that said the

667
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: rivalry is back on, and then it said, you know,

668
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard, I'm like, man, that seems like forever ago,

669
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: where Chris Ballard as his first duty as the general

670
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: manager of the Indianapolis Colts, his first real job, his

671
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: first real assignment, his first real test was to hire

672
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: a head coach. And his first choice, excuse me, his

673
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: first choice was Josh mcday annuals, and we know what

674
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: happened there, and I had forgotten almost entirely about that.

675
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: I was in the press conference when he was explaining

676
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: what happened with the you know, the about face before

677
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: the contract was signed, after the Colts had announced that

678
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: they had made a decision on who they were going

679
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: to hire, and then Chris Ballard saying the rivalry is

680
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: back on, and he walked off and everybody was like,

681
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: that's my guy, let's go. Well, what's interesting about that

682
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: is that rivalry may still be on, but it faded

683
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: almost instantly because the Colts didn't uphold their end of

684
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: the bargain, and the and the Patriots now are a

685
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: complete afterthought with obviously bellis you know everything that's gone

686
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: on there. But with that said, the first big test

687
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: for Chris Ballard he had to get a second go

688
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: of it. And even then he goes with Frank Wright,

689
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: and that was almost like by a safety default. And

690
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: I think that Jim irsay, I don't know this, but

691
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: Jim Mercy probably had a lot to do with that

692
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: as much as anything else. But then something has happened

693
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: since then that makes me believe and validates why I

694
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: think that there is more riding on Anthony Richardson and

695
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: more invested.

696
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Speaker 1: And I'll get into that and.

697
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: We'll talk to James Boyd in just a bit as

698
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: well as another race has taking place. Only five in

699
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Speaker 2: this one, okay, so Eddie, you tell me, Okay, March's

700
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: seven rolling explosion, text me maybe? And fifty to win?

701
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Speaker 2: Who you going with? Mart seven rolling explosion? Text me

702
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: maybe and fifty to win?

703
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 4: Let's see, I can go two ways here. We got

704
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: the Carly Wade Jepson inspired horse. Instead of call me maybe,

705
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: it's text me maybe, I gotta go with what was it?

706
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: Fifty to win?

707
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 7: Jake?

708
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Speaker 2: Fifty to win? Yep, that's what I gotta go with. Okay,

709
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: So Eddie's going to fifty to win. I kind of

710
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: like to text me maybe. I'm down with that. That's

711
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: kind of a cool name. I'll go with text me

712
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: maybe in this one. Now watch, it's gonna be either

713
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: March seven been a rolling explosion. Since there's only there's

714
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: only four I said what I say, there's four horses

715
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: in this race? Race number seven here will let you

716
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: know what happens. What's that you got to figure out

717
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: who was scratched. Then no, there's there's there's only four listed.

718
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: March seven, Rolling Explosion. Text me maybe in fifty to

719
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: win we'll find out which one is the winner. I'll

720
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: let you know when we come back, and i'll let

721
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: you know. Also, I'll continue my conversation about why precedent

722
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: indicates how big this is for Ballard in his mind,

723
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Speaker 2: and why I think he leans one way because of it.

724
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Speaker 2: We'll get to that next we return here to the

725
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Speaker 2: Indiana State Fairgrounds Quating Company on the fan.

726
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Speaker 1: Now, I'll be honest, Eddie.

727
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: During that last race, race number seven here at the

728
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Speaker 2: Indiana State Fairgrounds, part of the Grand Circuit action taking place,

729
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: I glanced away for just a second, but I'm looking

730
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: now as they're bringing the winner over, and I'm fairly

731
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: certain who did you Who did you pick in that one?

732
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Speaker 4: At we had the winner, Jake, don't worry. I was

733
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Speaker 4: listening to our guy Rick couple in the background there.

734
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Speaker 2: Fifty to win one, right, Yes, that's right. Yes, I'll

735
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: tell you what. Fifty to win is frisky. That should

736
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Speaker 2: be frisky to win. Fifty to win is celebrating. Fifty

737
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: to win is celebrating he's got his own little like

738
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: Deon Sanders dance going on here?

739
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Speaker 1: Really?

740
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: Okay? So yeah, yeah, are now take out on the.

741
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Speaker 4: YouTube so the fans of our viewership can see this.

742
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, hang on just a second. Let

743
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: me see if I can do this.

744
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: Is that Grandpa, you're ready get up out of his chair.

745
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: He's kind of doing like a like a like a

746
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: Deon standards, you know what I mean. Oh, it's hard to.

747
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: Do because I got this chair here, and I got

748
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: a headset on and everything else. But there was a

749
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: little bucking going on there for sure, just.

750
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Speaker 1: A little bit.

751
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 4: If somebody was behind you in the stands above you

752
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 4: watching and then just see this guy getting up and

753
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: just start just randomly dancing like.

754
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: What the hell with heads mind you? Yeah, yeah, with head.

755
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: It's a headset, Jake. We've established this. It's just one

756
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: one headset.

757
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: But there's two years so it's headsets now.

758
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: Okay. So the Chris Ballard, So Chris when he took

759
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: the job with the Colts, I think there were he

760
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: was a young guy and there was a.

761
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: Lot of promise about Chris Ballard. There was a lot

762
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Speaker 1: of expectation.

763
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: There was a lot of discussion and chatter about the

764
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: fact that he was the bright, guising and rising star

765
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: within NFL executives. He had never been handed the keys

766
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: to a franchise, but he had worked in scouting with

767
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and had success, and he gets the opportunity

768
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 2: with the Colts, and I think that Jim Ersay again

769
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: was very eager to get a young guy that Jim

770
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Speaker 2: Ersay could. I think Jim Mersay with Ryan Grigson when

771
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: Ryan Grigson was hired. It is my belief that Jim

772
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: Mersay wanted to kind of erase the one glaring flaw

773
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: in the resume of Jim Irsay. Jim Irsay in the

774
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: one thing where he had it just didn't go the

775
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: way that he wanted. His life was as the general

776
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: manager of the Colts, when he was the general manager,

777
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: when his father was the owner, and he traded for

778
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 2: Freddie Young, and he traded for Dickerson, and he brought

779
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: in Ron Meyer and they did the wishbone. And I

780
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: just always got the impression that Jim Mersay wanted to get.

781
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: And I understand it. I totally understand it.

782
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: You know, you want to make good on the one

783
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: thing where you felt you fell short. And so when

784
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: after Bill Pollion was here. I think Jim Mersay was

785
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: very focused on getting a young guy that not only

786
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: could Jim mrsy groom and build into a great general manager,

787
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: but also one that could still allow Jim Rsay to

788
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: And yes, he's the owner, he obviously doesn't matter who

789
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: it is. He's going to have some say in what

790
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: goes on. But I think getting a young general manager

791
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: that is going to be impressionable to Jim Mersey's suggesting

792
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: an influence was important to him. And so we know

793
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: what happened with Ryan Grigson, and he moved on from

794
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: Ryan Grigson, and I think he decided to go with

795
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: a GM that there was a lot of talk about

796
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: how Chris Ballard had checked all the boxes and that

797
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: other teams were very enamored by the possibility of him

798
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: being an executive, and so Ersay thought, here is my

799
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: chance to get a young guy that I can continue

800
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: to still kind of make suggestion to. But at the

801
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: same time, now Ersay is wanting to make good on

802
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: two things. Number one, his general manager era and then

803
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: secondly still showing that he had the ability to hand

804
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: pick a young guy that was the genius in the

805
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: rough that he was going to get credit for handing

806
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: his franchise over to an unproven guy, which Chris Ballard was.

807
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: So then Ballard comes in and his first test is

808
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: that of the coaching higher it does not go well,

809
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: he has to get to make good on it. He

810
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: does to make good with Frank Reich. Even then he

811
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: had to again go through a search and hire, and

812
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: it looks like he might have gotten a good guy

813
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: in chains Tiken. You know, still remains to be seen.

814
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 2: But for Chris Ballard, the other area where he wanted

815
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: to make sure that he hit was on the two

816
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: most important decisions that GM makes, what coach to hire

817
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: when there's a vacancy and what quarterback to hand your

818
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: franchise to. And on the first one he needed more

819
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: than one swing of the bat. And on the second

820
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: one he walked into a situation where he had Andrew Luck.

821
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: Everyone and their brother would think to themselves, look, it

822
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they won nine straight Super Bowls Andrew

823
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck. Chris Ballard knew that a lot of that

824
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: credit was going to go to Andrew Luck. And so

825
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: then Andrew Luck retires and now he is in a

826
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: situation where the quarterback position and situation is one that

827
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: he has to address an answer to. And he went

828
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: with a couple of band aids, and then finally whether

829
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: it was Chris Ballard, whether it was Frank Reich, whether

830
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: it was Jim Mersey, I don't think it was Chris Ballard,

831
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: but he went with Carson Wentz. He agreed to go

832
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 2: with Carson Wentz, and immediately his boss, the owner, had

833
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 2: took exception to the selection that he made. So then

834
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: finally he goes back, and then he goes back to

835
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: another band aid and ultimately it comes down to, Okay, now, kid,

836
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: you're getting your chance to put your total stamp on

837
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 2: this franchise by selecting the quarterback of the four that

838
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: are in the offering. And yes, they were not drafting first,

839
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: but if you look at Houston, for example, you know

840
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: they moved up to get Stroud and Bryce Young, they

841
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 2: moved up to Carolina, moved up to get Bryce Young,

842
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: and so that possibility was there. But the Colts were

843
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: okay holding back because and he was on record of saying,

844
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: if I had the number one pick, Richardson is the

845
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: guy I was going to go with. So he had

846
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: it on record that Anthony Richardson is the guy that

847
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: I Chris Ballard as the scout and the brain trust

848
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: that the Indianapolis colts. This is my guy. And despite

849
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: how much money he has given A. Daniel Jones, there

850
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 2: still is the biggest investment in Anthony Richardson because it

851
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: is the second chance at a position that the general

852
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: manager is so important and a linked to, and also

853
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: after the first one of those being the coaching thing

854
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: not getting right on the first go round. You could

855
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: make the argument that this isn't the first go round

856
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: at the quarterback, but in terms of a young franchise

857
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: quarterback plucking it into the draft, it is. And he

858
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: wants to make absolutely certain that he gets that right

859
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: because if he learned anything from Jim Irsay, it's the

860
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: fact that when you haven't something where a critical decision

861
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 2: is yours, or you have something on your resume that

862
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: you feel like you fall short of your own expectation

863
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: or external expectation, you chase the rest of your life

864
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 2: trying to make good on that. And Ballard knows that,

865
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 2: and so Ballard is going to do everything he can understandably.

866
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: So I totally respect it. I totally get it.

867
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard is going to do everything he can and

868
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: literally unturn every single rock and look at every single

869
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: pass and every single angle before he puts any sort

870
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: of finality into the fact that Anthony Richardson is not

871
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: the guy. And if they go with Daniel Jones this year,

872
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 2: as the assumption, if they were to start in week one,

873
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 2: that they selected him over Anthony Richardson. So unless there's

874
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: injury involved, if Daniel Jones is selected as the starter

875
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: week one this year, for all intent and purposes in Indianapolis,

876
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: it spells the end of the era of Anthony Richardson.

877
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: And that means now that Chris Ballard, once again, with

878
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: a benchmark decision, has to then ask for a make good.

879
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: And he knows from his predecessor and his not his predecessor,

880
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: from his from his mentor in Jim mersay that you

881
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: chase that forever. And he knows it. And that's why

882
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 2: there is more invested and more involved with Anthony Richardson. Okay,

883
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: Race number nine is about to get underway here, Reddie,

884
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: let me give you the names you ready, Okay, we

885
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 2: got bells for all high speed swan good luck, Mark

886
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: Tarzan won't let him and on to Norway.

887
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: Wait, wait a second, do we skip over RaSE eight

888
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: we just had?

889
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry I got ahead of myself.

890
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: My apologies. Okay, here we go Race number eight, Deal

891
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: the Odds, Ponda Ferrari, this JK. Rocks, the family Man,

892
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: and Derby Up.

893
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll let you pick first since I got the

894
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: winner last go round.

895
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: You know what, my dad's on the mend.

896
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: I'll go with the family Man because he is the

897
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: definition of a family man.

898
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: I'll go with the family Man.

899
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: Although you know what, though, if the family Man doesn't perform, well,

900
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna think there's some sort of weird voodoo there.

901
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: Scratch that scratch family Man. I'm gonna go with Derby up,

902
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: Derby Up. Say, so you've got Deal the Odds, Ponda Ferrari,

903
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: this JK Rocks or the family Man.

904
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna go with this JK Rocks.

905
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Now do you think that's what JK? Do you

906
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: think it is?

907
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: It?

908
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: Is it?

909
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: Jack on the Rocks? Is that what that is?

910
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: Is?

911
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: JK Rawlings? What JK? Are we talking here?

912
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 4: Not sure?

913
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: Jkurne? I think JK. Burnee was a race card driver. Okay,

914
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 2: this JK. Rocks is Eddie, and I'm going with uh,

915
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: let me see.

916
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: It, Famlin. Which one do you want?

917
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: We got deal the Odds, Ponder Ferrari or the family Man.

918
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: Which one do you want?

919
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 7: Oh?

920
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: He goes with the Ponder Ferrari go figure. Yeah, all right,

921
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 2: we'll see. We'll see who wins here. In race number eight,

922
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 2: did you say James Boy going to join.

923
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: Us, Eddie?

924
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: That is right, James Boy joins this other side. We'll

925
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: get caught up on the Colts and the Ravens and

926
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: try to get exactly what it was that Adie Mitchell

927
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 2: said yesterday he and Steven Holder. We'll ask him next. Okay,

928
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 2: a couple of things to address here. Number one, Deal

929
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 2: the Odds was the winner there. In race number eight,

930
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: Number two Derby Up was apparently unaware of the fact

931
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: the race had started a bit of a problem for Derby.

932
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: Up finished the race to get the nickel, as Rick said,

933
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 2: but way off the pace. And number three Eddie apparently

934
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: sent video of me dancing to Shannon.

935
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: Now, you kind of did me wrong, Eddie.

936
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting and I know James about to join us,

937
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: and there's people behind me here. But Deon Sanders dance

938
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: used to be It's kind of hard to do like impromptu,

939
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: but he would do like and then would go to

940
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: the other side.

941
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, then, where your currently position. We can

942
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: hardly see you on the YouTube, Boomer, so I can't

943
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: really want clip it off to send it to Shannon. Now,

944
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 4: she did say that with the initial rendition of whatever

945
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: the hell that was, she said that you should go professionally.

946
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm a very good dancer. I'm very fleet

947
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: of foot. Listen.

948
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: I went to missus Kinnear's catillion when I was a kid.

949
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: I was a very good dancer. Do we have James

950
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: by the way, we do all right? James Boyd joining us,

951
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so. Now he

952
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: is in Baltimore, Colts Owing is it Owing's Corner, Owing's owner?

953
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: What's the name of the town that you're technically in, James.

954
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: It was Owings Mills, So I'm actually back in.

955
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: Indy Owings Mills. There we go, Okay, back in Indy.

956
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: Is James Boyd?

957
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: Of course?

958
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: You hear him in the Morning Show with Kevin Bowen

959
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: and jeff Rickord and was yesterday at the practice the

960
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: joint practice between the Colts and the Ravens, and his

961
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: duties for the athletics. So James, let's get right to this.

962
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: I want to get to the Ady Mitchell thing first,

963
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: because I think there was a lot of question mark

964
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 2: and curiosity, understandably so, about whether or not ad Mitchell

965
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: could maintain and sustain what he has done in the

966
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: let's say, last two thirds of the camp before they

967
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: got to Baltimore. And by all account yesterday, all signs

968
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: are good with that, correct.

969
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I believe the Colts just posted the highlights

970
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 3: on social media and so go watch that after your show,

971
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: of course, But yeah, he was cooking. I mean, the

972
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: guy looked stress out there yesterday. I would argue that

973
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: Adi Mitchell was the best offensive player for the Coast

974
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: and it wasn't particularly close. And I doesn't mean the

975
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: other guys didn't say, well, but he looked like a

976
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 3: star yesterday.

977
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 7: And I know.

978
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna tell me is just appreciated. It's just a

979
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: joint practice. But I can only go based off what

980
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: I see happening in real time. In real time yesterday,

981
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: he was like the best player out there.

982
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: Okay, And the question I would have.

983
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: Is this, James, when when you look at Ady and

984
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: I asked this sincerely because we didn't get a whole

985
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: lot of opportunity to see this a year ago. Okay,

986
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: if Ady Mitchell is able to be the player in

987
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: this offense envisioned that they want him to be and

988
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: he is out there on the regular I mean, we

989
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: know that Michael Pittman Jr. Is your you know, your

990
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: dynamic like over the middle, durable receiver.

991
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: We know that Josh Downs is your get loose in

992
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: the slot guy.

993
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: We know that Alec Pierce is your beat the defense

994
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: and hit the long ball when he gets behind the

995
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: defense guy. And we know that Tyler Warren is probably

996
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: you're over the middle and then yard after catch guys.

997
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: So what exactly when you look at Ady Mitchell, the

998
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: perfect in vision for him is what operating area offensively?

999
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: Good question. I think that he would play outside. I

1000
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 3: think he would be I talk to coach Brigmanchuri about this.

1001
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: But you will put on you know, opposite of Alan

1002
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: Pierce possibly and and force their defense at to count

1003
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: for two guys that can take you Deepen and Curry

1004
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: Valla piris as well. He's shown some riding his route tree.

1005
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: So two guys that can kind of rash you up,

1006
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 3: but also you know, have to basically force you to

1007
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: play two safeties over the top just case you get beat.

1008
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: Like for example, Mike Cleyman junior, very good receiver, doesn't

1009
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: have the long speed that eighty Mitchell has. Thady Mitchell

1010
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: around four to three come out of college and you

1011
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: saw yesterday on the field, So I think that's where

1012
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 3: ideally you would want to have it on the outside

1013
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: from pressure on the safety's from pressure over the top,

1014
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: and then something the ability to you know, get back

1015
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 3: inside and play need because I think that Bitman could

1016
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: be a pretty solid like possession catcher, slide receiver, slash

1017
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 3: extra tight ends whereas Ady Mitchell I think, is you know,

1018
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 3: more built to be a Honestly, his skill set is

1019
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 3: talent wise, it gives him ability to be a true

1020
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: number one receiver. But I'm not saying he is right

1021
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: now at all, I understanding talent wise, he has more

1022
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: than in that room than anybody else.

1023
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: Okay, there was a fight yesterday, right and this was

1024
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: how far into practice this.

1025
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 3: Was probably I don't know, in hour plus it's a practice.

1026
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 3: It was one I believe it was like a second

1027
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 3: Special Teams period and I didn't get a good look

1028
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: at it because they had two fields. And long story

1029
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: short for those listening, they are way more strict there

1030
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: with media than they are here with us at cold

1031
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: camp are there are persons you couldn't stand and you

1032
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: couldn't use their from the shirt and all the stuff. Anyway,

1033
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: I couldn't see it that well. But what I understand

1034
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: when I gathered uh Tyler Gudskon got lit up on

1035
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: a special teams play on a part time, which is

1036
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: kind of on call for. And then Nate Higgins, the

1037
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: rageous cornerback came off the sideline and got to fighting

1038
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: or it's got thattline started punching it.

1039
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: So it's so bad it isn't okay.

1040
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: So Nate Wiggins, by the way, who is Oh wait

1041
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: a minute, hang on, James, I'll let you in on

1042
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: this race Number nine is about to get into way

1043
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: here at the Indiana State Fair.

1044
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: So James will give you the first pick.

1045
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: Here are the horses that are running in this the

1046
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: harness horses that are racing in this ninth race. James,

1047
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: you tell me which name you like best bells for

1048
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: all high speed Swan, good luck Mark, Tarzan, won't let them?

1049
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: And on to Norway. Which one do you like best? James?

1050
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 3: Good luck Mark? Because that's that's Mark Ductive right now,

1051
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 3: trying to find those Mondos Kevin Bowen.

1052
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 2: Ex Okay, good yeah, good luck Mark. In general, it's

1053
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: a mantra for Okay, Eddie, which one are you going with?

1054
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: There?

1055
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: I'm going to go with an underrated Disney film.

1056
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: Tarzan Okay, Okay, Eddie, going with a film being underrated

1057
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: despite it being like a household name for the last

1058
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: one hundred years in film and screen. Okay, I'll go

1059
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: about I'll go on to Norway, On to Norway. Okay,

1060
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: there we go. We'll see, we'll see who wins in

1061
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: this one. James Nate Wiggins is a guy that is

1062
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: a second round pick. He was out of Clemson. He's

1063
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: a young guy for Baltimore and you know you had

1064
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: mentioned that he came off after the Goodson hit and

1065
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: things that were getting heated. How much of that was

1066
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: do you think frustration before that because Wiggins was the target?

1067
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: Am I correct and saying? And Ady Mitchell kind of

1068
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 2: yapp into the media about the fact that he had

1069
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 2: been burning Wiggins on the regular basis correct.

1070
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know for sure if that's

1071
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: the case, but I do know that on Frock I

1072
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 3: was I'm sitting outside here in the trucking. I'm gonna

1073
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: heare some people with that loud norther than his name. Anyways,

1074
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 3: with Ay Mitchell, I just think that he was cooking

1075
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: Wiggins double the fact, and it certainly didn't, you know,

1076
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: help Wiggans just taste, and so maybe he was just

1077
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: said about that to begin with. But it was a

1078
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: wild to see him or here that he ran off

1079
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 3: the sideline to fight. Oh my god, So he got

1080
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: ejected and then Tyler giftson stay in practice that all

1081
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: he basically did was defend himself. So just a weird incident,

1082
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: but honestly, or it to be labeled as a fight,

1083
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 3: which it was a couple of bunches drones, Jake. It

1084
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: wasn't like an all out brawl where you know, people

1085
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: will questioning what practice were zum. It was kind of

1086
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: a little scuffle quarterbacks ran over. But I knew it

1087
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: wasn't that big of a deal because Quentin Nelson never

1088
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 3: gotten a mix, you know, among he's chilling everyone else

1089
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 3: is killing too.

1090
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like if James Johnson's on the bench for

1091
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: the Pacers, You're like, yeah, that was nothing right, It

1092
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: was mine exactly exactly.

1093
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: You know, if you gets in there, then we got some.

1094
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: Issues, James.

1095
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: Between Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, which one do you

1096
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 2: think saw more looks from Baltimore? Which one actually was?

1097
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: Because that's one of the things I think that we

1098
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: need to look at is it's not about necessarily what

1099
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: these players are doing. These quarterbacks are doing statistically speaking

1100
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: in these you know, scrimmages and or preseason games. But

1101
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: more so, what are all things given equal? Are they

1102
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 2: going up against the same kinds of looks, the same

1103
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 2: sorts of stunts. Which of the two of them yesterday

1104
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: saw a more realistic NFL defense?

1105
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 3: I think it was pretty vanilla for both of them, honestly,

1106
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: and Kim Biden talk about just on the coaches side,

1107
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: you don't want to show a lot of your stuff,

1108
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 3: But I think that Anthony kind of forces the defense

1109
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 3: even if you have vanilla, to still be a little

1110
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: bit different because of the running dynamic. I can't say

1111
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones doesn't have that ability too, but I mean

1112
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: Anthony when he Telby's a little bit more dynamic in

1113
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: the run game. So I thought that that was probably

1114
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: one of the biggest differences, was seeing Holla Raven's kind

1115
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: of adjusted or try to adjust. The fact that you know, hey,

1116
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: if you got a Jane read, which was those for

1117
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: those listening, is basically a two man run game with

1118
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: the quarterback and the running back and he deciding whether

1119
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 3: to keep the ball himself and run or give it

1120
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: to the running back. There are a couple of times

1121
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: where you know, the Ravens gets wrong and they let

1122
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 3: you some big, big plays. So I think that he

1123
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: saw more of like the variety defensions because he gave

1124
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: him more variety on offense. But I thought both quarterbacks

1125
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 3: had a pretty solid day, Jake, And honestly, I'm kind

1126
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 3: of waiting for one of them to have like a

1127
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 3: bad day, clearly, and they ever gonna have a really

1128
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 3: good day. They kind of held each so far.

1129
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: James, is there a disadvantage?

1130
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: James Boyd is our guest who was at the practice

1131
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: yesterday between the Colts and the Ravens and his duties

1132
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: for the athletic He also, of course, you hear on

1133
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: the morning show here the Faded Morning Show with jeff

1134
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: Rickord and Kevin Bowen. As by the way, race number

1135
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: nine is getting in away, my mom wants onto Norway. Also,

1136
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: she's also going with if On to Norway wins. I

1137
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: should what do you think, James, if On to Norway wins?

1138
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: I should take my mom to Norway? What do you think?

1139
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: Does that sound fair?

1140
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 3: That does sound fair? Sounds amazing.

1141
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: I could probably take her to like you know, Oslo,

1142
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: Nebraska and call it even but race underwell, I let

1143
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 2: you know who wins here. But getting back to this question,

1144
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: if you are the Colts and whether it be the

1145
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: preseason games or these scrimmages, and there's tape on all

1146
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: of it, I realize is there a disadvantage for Indianapolis

1147
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: or any franchise that is having a quarterback battle in

1148
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: this fact, because you are trying to figure out which

1149
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: quarterback you want to go with, it forces you offensively

1150
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 2: to work on more things and thus open your playbook

1151
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: up a little bit more than you normally would. And

1152
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: while defenses might be vanilla at this point in the year,

1153
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 2: offensively you are forced to show a little bit more

1154
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: of the side offerings because you're testing both quarterbacks and

1155
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: want to get them as many looks as possible, and

1156
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: that actually can be a disadvantage towards forecasting for teams

1157
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 2: more so who you're going to be in the regular

1158
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: season than you would normally do so in a preseason.

1159
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: Any truth to any of that, I think.

1160
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: There is a little bit truth to that. But at

1161
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: the end of the day, good and teams know what

1162
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna do, you can still be able to put

1163
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 3: it off. It's just good enough to do it. I mean,

1164
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: people know what the Chiefs like to do it, Patrick Mahons,

1165
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: people know what Lamar Jackson the Ravens like to do

1166
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: with him and his skillset, and they're still very effective players.

1167
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: Josh Allendo is another one. So I'm not saying Anthony

1168
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: Richard Den Jones will be either of those guys. W

1169
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 3: you know, most likely they will not be those guys obviously,

1170
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 3: But if you're able to, you know, execute well enough,

1171
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: you should be fine by showing a little bit more variety,

1172
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: a little bit more wrinkles in your offense. Your biggest

1173
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: thing is figuring out who do we want to play

1174
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: come week one on Sundays, and when we do make

1175
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 3: that decision. You know, obviously there's some injuries to deal

1176
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 3: with Anthony Richard Jones too as well. When you make

1177
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 3: that decision, you want to be confident in saying, this

1178
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: is our guy for the foreseeable future, and we're all

1179
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 3: over with him. We believe in him.

1180
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 2: By the way, on the Norway Wins, am I taking

1181
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: my mom to Norway?

1182
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: On the Norway Wins? Who did you pick?

1183
00:56:59,000 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 8: James?

1184
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: You went with good luck?

1185
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 7: Mark?

1186
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, we got a straggler here. We got a

1187
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: straggler that's coming across. Let's see, just now crossing while

1188
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: the rest of the field is done. And that is

1189
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: good luck. Mark, good luck, good luck. Mark Dyton struggled. Yeah,

1190
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: Mark needs more luck.

1191
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: That's right. Hey, James, James Boyd is our guest. Let

1192
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Are you familiar, James?

1193
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: Have you ever geographically speaking, speaking of Norway, have you

1194
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: ever heard of Lake by Call?

1195
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: B A I K A L. Lake by Call? You

1196
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: heard that?

1197
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: By chance?

1198
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: James, I have not.

1199
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Lake by Call is in Russia, but it is

1200
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: the deepest lake in the world. So my question for

1201
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: you is this, James, what position for the Colts is

1202
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: their Lake by Call? Their deepest position is where.

1203
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: Cool I was gonna take cornerback. But all those guys

1204
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: are hurt right now. If you look at Michael him

1205
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 3: and ju Rou receiver, Alec Pierscruber receiver, Josh daltruper receiver,

1206
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: you have obviously Adi Mitchell, who they believe has a

1207
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: lot of talent sect round Pickton last year. Aston Doolan

1208
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 3: can even get in there and give you some juice

1209
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: every now and then at a fifty plus yard cutchdown

1210
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: last year. So I like that wide receiver room, I

1211
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 3: really do.

1212
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So and when you say that at wide receiver,

1213
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: because it's one thing to have depth because you don't

1214
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: have a lot of drop off one through five, But

1215
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean much if one through five are all average,

1216
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I do think this is

1217
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,479
Speaker 2: a room though, that has guys that would that would

1218
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: all probably start elsewhere within the respective position, right.

1219
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they give give credit to Chris Ballard.

1220
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: It's a position that we banged on him a lot

1221
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: for not addressing and then he finally did and I

1222
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: think he did hit it right.

1223
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got dudes in that room, and I'm not

1224
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: saying you have a true number one receiver, because I

1225
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: mean everything Surgeon for that, Jamar Chase, you know, Tyreek Hill,

1226
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 3: justin Jefferson type. However, I think that, yes, it's very

1227
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 3: fair to say Josh Downs, Alex Pears, Michael Pittman Jr.

1228
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 3: They will all be starting corn I started qurnerback, started

1229
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 3: wide receivers and other wide receiver rooms. Honestly, for Alec

1230
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: Pears's sake, he's probably thinking, if I have one more

1231
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: good year, I'm gonna, you know, be able to back

1232
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 3: that up that assessment of other teams. Baks just looking

1233
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: at me as a starter with a very healthy payday.

1234
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: James boyd Our guest Colton Ravens tomorrow night, preseason game

1235
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: number one. James, let's get to the quarterback situation. I

1236
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: want to go back to that. Was there anything that

1237
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: jumped out at you about either one of those guys yesterday?

1238
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: I know you said it was pretty vanilla, but what

1239
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: did you see? Was there anything that was a typical

1240
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: from the rest of camp of what you saw between

1241
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: Richardson and Jones.

1242
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: Just the ability to break the long runs. I felt

1243
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 3: like based off of some of the zone read actions,

1244
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 3: some of the QB handoff stuff that they were able

1245
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 3: to do in misdirection things like that, you know, talking

1246
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 3: to Cam buying them after practice, people saying you kind

1247
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 3: of when you face your own team for so long,

1248
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: you can kind of diffle guys are going to do

1249
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: what guys like to do. So I think having the

1250
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: element of surprise to a certain degree, I'm surprised to

1251
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 3: Ravens because there were several runs yesterday where I thought

1252
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: Jona Tilor got down the field, you know, on touched

1253
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: for about seven eight yards before he finally got hit.

1254
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 3: And so if you can generate that sort of you know,

1255
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: running attack in Nephel Brown game in the regular season,

1256
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: that'll obviously make life a lot easier in the quarterback

1257
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: when you're in second and three versus second and seventh.

1258
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: We haven't talked a lot about Hunter Waller, but Hunter Waller,

1259
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: who was a seventh round pick out of Wisconsin, a

1260
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: safety and yes, not playing for a starting safety spot,

1261
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: but when you are a seventh round pick of the

1262
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: defensive backfield, probably looking for a special teams opportunity that

1263
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: then can lend itself to being a depth piece. But

1264
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: it seems as though correct me if I'm wrong, Hunter

1265
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: Waller had a really good day yesterday. Is that, however,

1266
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: typical of what he has shown in camp, James, or

1267
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: was this a late introduction.

1268
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 3: It's so typical to what he's showing in camp. I

1269
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: thought that he's had a really really solid camp. They

1270
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: kind of culminated yesterday obviously picking off Lamar Jackson another

1271
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 3: interception there to in practice with the second team, and

1272
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: so he's just continue to make plays. And honestly, me

1273
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: and Kevin talked about this on the Morning Show probably

1274
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: about a week ago. He's a lot to make the team.

1275
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: And I don't know how many times you can say

1276
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: about a seven round pick this early in training camp,

1277
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 3: but it's probably think about two for all of us

1278
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: to kind of consistent on the beat that, yeah, when

1279
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: we do up with the then book the three at

1280
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 3: roster projection, he's going to be on there, and we're

1281
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: all going to be right that you know, he should

1282
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 3: be on there, and if he isn't, it'll be a

1283
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: very very surprising move because he's looked so steady and

1284
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 3: so smooth and with the deeds the class.

1285
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: By the way, James. Upcoming is race number ten here

1286
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: at the Indiana State Fair. It's the Fox Steak, the

1287
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: ninety nine year for it. As a matter of fact,

1288
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: for the Fox stake, now there are only four entrants. James,

1289
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: I'll let you pick first again, since you're the guest.

1290
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: Sogi Swiss Lights talk softly or assistant coach that Sogi

1291
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: Swiss Lights talk softly an assistant coach, I'm gonna go

1292
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 2: talk softly. Okay, needless to say, that was not gonna

1293
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: be my pick. Okay, Eddie, go ahead, Sogi Swiss lights

1294
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: or assistant coach.

1295
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: I'll go with.

1296
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if I'm taking my mom to Norway, I

1297
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 2: might as well swing over to Switzerland and show where

1298
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: the Christmas lights. So I'll go Swiss Lights is my

1299
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 2: pick here for race number ten. I'll let you guys

1300
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: know what happens with that.

1301
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: James.

1302
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: What's the story that no one's talking about? If any,

1303
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that there is one.

1304
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I thought we cover a lot of this

1305
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 3: stuff every day. If I'm pulling out straws, I guess

1306
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 3: you know, when you look at we have to do

1307
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 3: have the conversation in the media room, we look at

1308
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 3: people to criticize when it comes to the quarterback play.

1309
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 3: Recently with his team, I do think that Cam Turner,

1310
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks coach, kind of fight under the radar. But

1311
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 3: I'm just generally curious, like, you know, maybe I should

1312
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: just meet up with them or talk to say about it.

1313
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: What is his responsibility because we've criticized obviously Shane and

1314
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard about ars development and the profice wasn't too soon.

1315
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 3: But you know, you're the quarterback, so just supposed to

1316
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: be the guy kind of helping him along. So what's

1317
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 3: your truck to look like? I think that he's also

1318
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray, who is in viewed at some like

1319
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 3: great quarterback. I mean the guy didn't have a clause

1320
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 3: put the protract to work hard and not play video

1321
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: games initially, So yeah, can't turn to somebody I'm curious about,

1322
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: like what is your role? What do you do and

1323
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 3: how are you actually trying to help that quarterback room,

1324
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: whether it's a Anthony Richand or damn Zone.

1325
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: Okay, James another I guess the opposite question of that

1326
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: would be this for James Boyd, and that is what

1327
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: is the storyline that we're all focusing on in camp

1328
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: that actually we're going to look back on and realize

1329
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: was never really a storyline to begin with the.

1330
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: Man that we're in the state as a good question, Jake,

1331
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 3: and honestly might be quarterback. We might look up and

1332
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: I don't need to be morbid here, but who might

1333
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: look up in a month and be like, man, both

1334
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 3: of these guys kind of are not good. So we

1335
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 3: did all this hoping to puff about who's going to

1336
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 3: start who isn't and they're about the same way.

1337
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 2: Hey, so let me let me let me jump in there, James,

1338
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 2: which do you think is more likely? Okay, when it's

1339
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: early November and we're getting set for the drumstick Dash

1340
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: and the weather's starting to turn a little bit, and

1341
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: high school football state finals are upcoming, and we're talking

1342
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: about the Colts, is it more likely that we're going

1343
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: to be talking about one of the two the starting

1344
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: quarterback for the Colts? And say, man, and the thing

1345
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: there was even a competition. This guy is flat balling

1346
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: out and is having a hell of a year. Is

1347
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: it more likely that that is what we're discussing or

1348
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: that we're saying. I can't believe we thought this was

1349
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: a competition, because this literally is our two guys that

1350
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: can't play.

1351
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: I think it's part of the ladder. And again I'm

1352
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: not trying to be negative. I understand it. Do you

1353
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 3: want to preach optimism and that's all what the Colts

1354
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 3: are doing. And I do think they're the world where

1355
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: either quarterback can be that's well enough to get him

1356
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 3: to the playoffs. But the reality is we haven't seen

1357
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 3: them play well as of late. That's time's anythink Richardson,

1358
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 3: he was hurt, he had a back injury, and obviously

1359
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: had a couple of good games last year. But I

1360
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 3: would say overall last year was a disaster for him,

1361
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 3: you know, being benched, being injured, you know, being inaccurate,

1362
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 3: it was it was all of the above. And then

1363
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: for Daniel Jones, you got benched in New York for

1364
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 3: you know, quarterbacks who are still not good, and they

1365
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 3: brought in quarterbacks to replace those guys this year. Russell

1366
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: Wilson is out there with the Giants now. So it's

1367
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: just in my opinion, it's, uh, the last time we

1368
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 3: saw both, they weren't good and so until they show

1369
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: us otherwise, that's what I have to base it off.

1370
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: Well, okay, now hold on, you're going with you're going

1371
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: with talk softly here?

1372
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1373
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 7: James yep, that's me.

1374
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Eddie, you're going with SOGI, is that right?

1375
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: Okay? And I took Swiss lights. There's only four entrants here,

1376
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: so you know that means assistant coach is going to win?

1377
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 2: Right that that kind of goes without saying, is it not.

1378
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 2: That's the hold on Lloyd Pierce. I'm putting that in

1379
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 2: as the assistant coach, okay, or I guess that could

1380
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: be you know, Jenny, Jenny.

1381
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: Anyhow, we put any number of names.

1382
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: There, Okay, James, give me the schedule here in terms

1383
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: of for the Colts, and obviously you're back because the

1384
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: Colts are off today, but then preseason game number one tomorrow,

1385
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: your coverage and then also your duties within the radio

1386
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: station are what here in the immediate future.

1387
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 3: So for the athletic I'll be doing something actually gonna

1388
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: write it up today like some players to watch tomorrow's game.

1389
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: Really throughout the preseason, you want to keep an eye

1390
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 3: on who's got the most of the game or lose

1391
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 3: throughout these three preseason games and obviously the rest of preseason.

1392
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: And then I'll get ready for a practice again right

1393
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: back on Saturday, because after the game Thursday, it's go

1394
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: back to Friday and Saturday, we're back out there in Webfield,

1395
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 3: so I'm back out there in the sun. And then

1396
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 3: for sure I'll be out there tomorrow morning for our

1397
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 3: live show Franklin for the golf outing, and then I'll

1398
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 3: probably stick around a little bit afterwards to mingle with

1399
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 3: the masses. So if you're listening, come.

1400
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: On out and you say it's up and you know,

1401
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: are you a good golfer?

1402
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 3: I can't damp at all. I will be going there

1403
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: to shoot hoop from the basketball hoop. The jamp has

1404
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 3: Jerry Riggs or something like that.

1405
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do have a hoop set up. I do

1406
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: know that we'll be shooting some hoops. There's going to

1407
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 2: be a silent auction as well. All this is to

1408
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: benefit the Franciscan Foundation from Franciscan Health and this is

1409
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: all at the Legends Golf Course down in Franklin, which

1410
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: is you know, legendary course right with some legends that

1411
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: were involved in it. I believe Fuzzy Zeller originally was involved.

1412
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: Bob Knight was involved. So great, great venue, going to

1413
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: be a fun event tomorrow. Weather looks like it's going

1414
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: to be great, So a lot of things to look

1415
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 2: forward to tomorrow. James will be there as well, Kevin Bowen, myself, John,

1416
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: we'll all be out there tomorrow. And I don't know.

1417
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 2: I'm not a great golfer either, So don't feel bad,

1418
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 2: James if we got to do one t shot. Don't

1419
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 2: feel bad if you know, if you're not the most

1420
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: confident in the world, because neither am I.

1421
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: So we'll be fine in that regard.

1422
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 3: Oh no, I can't swing at all, all right.

1423
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Well, you know it takes a little getting

1424
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: used to. But we'll see out there tomorrow. Look forward

1425
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: to it. Man, I appreciate the time.

1426
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 3: Alright, brother, have a good one.

1427
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: Hi, James Boyd joining us on the program. We come back.

1428
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: We still have plenty to talk about in terms of

1429
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: what is taking place here at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway,

1430
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 2: which is awesome, or the Napposolater Speedway. Yeah, thank you,

1431
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: the Indiana State Fair Guards. It's like the Napolis Motor

1432
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 2: Speedway because of the fact that there's racing going on. See,

1433
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 2: it's just ingrained in my mind. And as a matter

1434
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 2: of fact, usually when there's racing going on, I'm calling it.

1435
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: But in this case, you can hear Rick in the background.

1436
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to having him join us because we're

1437
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: gonna have We're gonna have him grade Eddie's impersonation of him,

1438
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: So you're gonna hear him in just a second. Here

1439
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: Eddie doing the you know, getting everything underway. Can you

1440
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 2: give me again, Eddie, real quick? You're impersonation of it?

1441
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: You want another one?

1442
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 4: Really already?

1443
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: Yes?

1444
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 4: Okay, you just heard it there in the background, gets.

1445
01:08:52,280 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: Roland okay. And then showtime, showtime. That's strong, okay. And

1446
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: then once they're once they're going, what do they say?

1447
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: There they go off and.

1448
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1449
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 2: He's about to do it here, here we go. Swiss

1450
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: Lights is off to a good start. I'm telling you

1451
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: my mom's gonna get another vacation out of it. You

1452
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 2: know what I want to talk about?

1453
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 4: How about how you starts, about how you finish?

1454
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: That's exactly well, that is true, right, that is true. Right,

1455
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: But right now the lights are bright on Swiss Lights.

1456
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Rick Carlisle had something interesting to

1457
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: say about the pacers, and I'll let you know, speaking

1458
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: of pacers, that's exactly what we're watching out here. But

1459
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: the basketball variation. Interesting thing to take a look at,

1460
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: which I will let you know what he had to say.

1461
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 2: We'll do it when we come back here to the

1462
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: Indiana State Fairgrounds. Sorry about that. Uh, you're listening to

1463
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: Quarrying Company here ninety three five and one seventy five

1464
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: to the fan. Okay, we're getting set for Race A

1465
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 2: number eleven. This is the Ralph will Fong Memorial Race,

1466
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: thirty five thousand dollars purse roughly here at the Indiana

1467
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: State Fair Eddie. Before I get to my PACER's point,

1468
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: let me read off to you the participants here in

1469
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: Race A number seven. We have Bluebird Hill muscle technician

1470
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 2: just Swan bye bye, Bravo, Alpha West Stokes, Country tab

1471
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 2: or the place that I actually moved into about two

1472
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 2: and a half years ago, Dandee Man cave. Oh no, sorry,

1473
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 2: dandy Man can Sorry, dandy Man can there we go? Sorry,

1474
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: I got that name wrong, dandy Man Can. So which

1475
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 2: one would you like their? Eddie?

1476
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 4: Hmmm, I don't know, Jake. I've got a lot of

1477
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 4: shoot from here.

1478
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: Bluebird Hill muscle Technicians, Swan Bye bye, Bravo, Alpha West Stokes,

1479
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 2: dandy Man can or Country Tab. I will go with

1480
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: country Tab. Okay, did you have a drink tab? It's

1481
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: a drink of beautiful people, Eddie, I did not. Failing

1482
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: which one would you like? Here? We got Bluebird Hill,

1483
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: muscle technicians, Swan by Bye, Bravo Alpha West and Danny

1484
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: man Can He went with a muscle technician. Okay, I'm

1485
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: going to go clearly, just to salute myself. I'll go

1486
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: with Bravo Alpha, Bravo Alpha when this one, if you

1487
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 2: don't mind me saying so, okay. Rick Carlisle had some

1488
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: interesting things to say about the Pacers recently where he

1489
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, we played for you, where he was talking

1490
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 2: about Minna Nick Matheren and said, look, breaking news here.

1491
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 2: Matherin's going to be our starter at the two and

1492
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: it is his job to lose. I don't think there's

1493
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 2: any real shock in that, but one of the things

1494
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 2: that I did find intriguing and I'm very curious to

1495
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:43,440
Speaker 2: see how it plays itself out. When you remove Tyrese Haliburton,

1496
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: you automatically know that probably your pace is going to

1497
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: be different.

1498
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: But it's not even Tyre's Halliburton.

1499
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: To me, it's Miles Turner and the loss of Miles

1500
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: Turner and what it does for the Pacers offense.

1501
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because Miles.

1502
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: Turner is in fact a play that if you really

1503
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: look at the way he plays in what he meant

1504
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: to their offense.

1505
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 1: And I know we've talked a lot about this, and I've.

1506
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 2: You know, I had a long conversation the other day

1507
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: with Todd Howard, who is the assistant at mary And

1508
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: that works with that Knight, and I was saying to

1509
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: Todd Howard, I'm like, I'll be honest with you in

1510
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: the fact that I still get confused by what exactly

1511
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 2: the motion offense is. And Todd Howard said, you know,

1512
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: it's funny, Rick Barnes, the long standing college basketball coach,

1513
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: you have a really good coach. Rick Barnes apparently called

1514
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: Pat Knight the other day to just go over and

1515
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: continue talking about the motion offense and you know, just

1516
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,520
Speaker 2: looking at things because I think coaches are constantly examining

1517
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: ways to perfect and expand upon offenses, and that offense

1518
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: the Pacers run. There's an element of the motion offense

1519
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: that comes with what the Pacers are doing. But it's

1520
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: really it's disingenuous to say that it's rooted in the motion.

1521
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 2: But the motion offense essentially is exactly that. It's a

1522
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 2: constant motion. But the player with the ball obviously, you know,

1523
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 2: once you pass the ball, you are then setting a

1524
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,560
Speaker 2: screen kind of in the opposite direction, and then the

1525
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 2: ball is constantly moving so that the defense is forced

1526
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: to shift over to where you are setting a screen

1527
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: and almost pull away from the basketball. And it just

1528
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: creates where the ball is moving almost like in a

1529
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: a cycle. And the Pacers do that to a great extent,

1530
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: and a lot of it was based upon Miles Turner

1531
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 2: and getting the ball to Miles Turner on the high post.

1532
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: And then as I mentioned, he's kind of like that

1533
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: sprinkler that's just spraying the ball around because when Turner

1534
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: will get the ball on that high post, the defense

1535
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 2: has to respect it.

1536
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: Because you know that he can shoot the ball from there.

1537
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: And so once they come out, then that creates a

1538
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 2: motion where guys are then coming up around up near

1539
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: the three point circle. And you saw that Turner is

1540
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: determining where it's going to go to, whether it's Nie

1541
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,440
Speaker 2: Smith or it's Halliburton or even nim Hard or Siakam

1542
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: working their way through and whether they are getting it

1543
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 2: up high or down low. That's a really elementary and

1544
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: neophyte way of explaining what they do. But the more

1545
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 2: detailed way of saying what they do offensively is to

1546
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: say that they create basically a helter skelter for lack

1547
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: of a better phrase, offense where defensively you kind of

1548
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: don't know what they're doing.

1549
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: They disguise themselves.

1550
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 2: They run different looks, but they're constantly moving and you're

1551
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 2: constantly guessing where exactly the ball is going to end up,

1552
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 2: and their ball rotation in terms of moving that thing

1553
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: around like a hot potato, is amazing. The number of

1554
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: passes that the Pacers could make before even really putting

1555
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: the ball back on the floor was remarkable last year,

1556
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 2: and a big part of that was based in Miles Turner.

1557
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: But Rick Carlisle has said recently now that next year,

1558
01:14:54,400 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 2: meaning this upcoming season, even without Halliburton and even without Turner,

1559
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: they are planning on going status quo in their offensive sets.

1560
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 2: They still want to run the same pace, they still

1561
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: want to run the same unpredictability. They still want to

1562
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: run the same disguised looks in terms of their offense,

1563
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 2: which is awesome because it's fun to watch, it's hard

1564
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: to guard. Points can be scored in a fury, as

1565
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: we saw against New York, as we saw at the

1566
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: end against Cleveland. We saw it for the entire postseason.

1567
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 2: And it's why people fell in love with this particular

1568
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 2: installment of the Indiana Pacers, not just in Indiana but nationally.

1569
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I mentioned when I was I did my

1570
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 2: trip out east, and I'm wearing a Pacer shirt and

1571
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 2: literally running around on the East Coast and people are

1572
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: coming up to me and they're coming up like, oh, Man, Pacers,

1573
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: that was so much fun. They should have won whatever else.

1574
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: And I could see, especially young people, like there were fans,

1575
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: and it's because they were exciting to watch and they

1576
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 2: were fun to watch, and they're going to and I

1577
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 2: think it's just because. And it's like I talked about

1578
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: with why Daniel Jones and Anthony Richards and are good

1579
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: compliments of one another because if one is not able

1580
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: to go, then you can get the other one in

1581
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: there and maintain your offense at the same position and

1582
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: at the same running it in the same system. The

1583
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 2: engines are running the same way, the pistons are going

1584
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: the same place, and you're not having to deviate from

1585
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: things so that when you then get your key pieces back,

1586
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 2: and in this case those key pieces being Tyre's Halliburton

1587
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 2: and then whoever it is going to be that becomes

1588
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: the replacement of Myles Turner. You are still clicking with

1589
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: everybody else, with Nie Smith and with Nim Harden, with

1590
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: whether it being Isaiah Jackson or Jeris Walker, and Furfey

1591
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 2: and Siakam, They're still running in the same motion, just

1592
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 2: like the horses that are running right now in this

1593
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 2: race number eleven that is underway here. It is the

1594
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: Ralph will Fong Memorial Bluebird Hill Muscle Technician. That's Phalen's Pick,

1595
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 2: swan By by Bravo Alpha. That's the No Brainer West

1596
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 2: Stokes Dandy Man Can and Country Tab, which was Eddie pick.

1597
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 2: Here we go, Eddie, you're about to hear them.

1598
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 1: Here we go. I think we just heard the show. Time.

1599
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: Let's see if we get to rolling. Here we go,

1600
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: Rick on the mic. Bluebird Hill off to a rough start,

1601
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 2: Bluebird Hill up to rough start. We'll let you know

1602
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 2: what happens on this and we'll talk a little bit

1603
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 2: more about what's taking place in wrapping up here at

1604
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 2: the Indiana State Fairgrounds. As a matter of fact, I

1605
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 2: will get you up to speed and we'll take a

1606
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 2: look back on the colts as well. In just about

1607
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: eighteen minutes, you're listening to Quarying Company A ninety three

1608
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 2: five and one oh seven five the fan What Eddie, listen?

1609
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 2: I let the country thing go yesterday all day? What

1610
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 2: are we doing with Whitney Houston here?

1611
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Am I missing something?

1612
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

1613
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 4: I just went eighties today?

1614
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: Okay? Can I do some eighties requests?

1615
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1616
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 7: Eighties?

1617
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 4: Three more chances?

1618
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you know obviously you know that, like, okay,

1619
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: how about in a Big Country by Big Country? Okay,

1620
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: that's a great song. They're from Scotland. By the way,

1621
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 2: it was like there Mowan in the sun.

1622
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: Was that one?

1623
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: Racing is complete in terms of the eleven races that

1624
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 2: are taking place here today at the Great Indiana State Fair.

1625
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: And it has been awesome to watch all of the

1626
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 2: races taking place. The one that just finished, by the way,

1627
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 2: the Ralph Wilfong I think I mentioned Bluebird Hill really struggled.

1628
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 2: It was Dandy Man. Can I think was the winner

1629
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 2: that last one? Is that right? Did I get that right?

1630
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: No, it was hang on, it was Country Tab was third,

1631
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: I believe, right?

1632
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 2: Was it? Swan bye bye? A swan bye bye? Was

1633
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: swan bye bye? Okay, there we go, and I think

1634
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 2: Danny mccam was second. Access the way that worked out.

1635
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 2: That voice you hear, by the way is that of

1636
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 2: Tony Wren's, and Tony is the executive director of the

1637
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,799
Speaker 2: Indiana Standard Bread Association. He is a native of Louisville, Kentucky.

1638
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 2: And then, naturally, as anybody who works in Standard Bread

1639
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: Association horse racing and harness racing in Indiana and comes

1640
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 2: from Louisville, Kentucky, he came here for the casino business,

1641
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 2: not even horse racing originally, right, No.

1642
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 8: Not whatsoever. I've been in the casino business before my

1643
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 8: current job for about twenty seven years and have worked

1644
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 8: at three casinos in Indiana, and came up in O

1645
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 8: seven to help Openho's your Park, and stayed on all

1646
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 8: the way up till twenty one, and then made the

1647
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 8: transfer over to the Indiana Standard Bread Association.

1648
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting I was talking about this earlier,

1649
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: and you know, Purdue has done a couple of different

1650
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 2: studies now just on the economic impact of horse racing

1651
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 2: in Indiana. We're talking over two billion dollars of impact,

1652
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: everything from those that are growing the feed to those

1653
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: that are growing or building the transportive you know, vehicles

1654
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 2: to get and then it goes without saying people that

1655
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 2: are coming out to watch it. But I was reading

1656
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 2: last night, Tony, I found this interesting. Starting in two

1657
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: thousand and seven, which for a lot of people was

1658
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: probably an area where you look at it and you

1659
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: see an economic downturn. Not the case in Indiana within

1660
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: horse racing, because from two thousand and seven to twenty twenty,

1661
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: we saw over a fifty percent increase in just the

1662
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 2: overall ownership of horses and breeding of horses in Indiana

1663
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: in general. To what do you attribute the growth of

1664
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 2: this here in Indiana?

1665
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 8: You know that all goes back to our legislators and

1666
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 8: they started working on that back in the mid nineties,

1667
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 8: early eighties, and it really kind of came to a

1668
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 8: culmination in seven when the two slot the two casinos

1669
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 8: here and Anderson and Shelbyville were allowed to have slot

1670
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 8: machines and became racinos at that point. And then that's

1671
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 8: where the boom happened and people seeing that Indiana's always

1672
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 8: been known for a standardbred racing. We also have thoroughbred

1673
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 8: and quarter horse down in Shelbyville and that program has

1674
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 8: grown substantially. But it goes back to the work that

1675
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,839
Speaker 8: the legislators the early horsemen did in the late eighties

1676
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 8: the early nineties to kind of get this set and

1677
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 8: ready to go, and it's it's taken off and who's

1678
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 8: your park is in the top three in North America

1679
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 8: harness tracks. We've hosted three breeder crowns up there, which

1680
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 8: is kind of the big the super Bowl, if you will,

1681
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 8: of harness racing. We've got our county fairs that are thriving,

1682
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,959
Speaker 8: and again it goes back to the legislators, the horsemen,

1683
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 8: the commission, the track owner, all those entities.

1684
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: You know, It's interesting because when you look Tony at,

1685
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 2: for example, in your home area, you know the Kentucky

1686
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: Diver this is home now, but you know the Kentucky Derby.

1687
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 2: You have horses that are racing there that are coming

1688
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 2: from all over I mean they're being bred from all over, right,

1689
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean Secretariat was was sired to Kentucky but born

1690
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: in Maryland, I think, and then brought back so they're

1691
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 2: coming from all over. Is that the same with the

1692
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 2: horses that we see today, or are most of these

1693
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: being born and then bred and raised here throughout Indiana?

1694
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: For the Indiana when you look at the Indiana Standard

1695
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: Bread Association.

1696
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 8: The majority of everything you see and is being born

1697
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 8: here in Indiana. Now, we do have races like our

1698
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 8: Dan Patch coming up on Friday night. Jessica spoke earlier

1699
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 8: of those horses that come from a different state. But

1700
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 8: what you're seeing today at the Grand Circuit, what you'll

1701
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 8: see next week at the Governor's Cup, they're all Indiana

1702
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 8: sired horses. They live in Indiana. And now some of

1703
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 8: them do travel outside of the state and go race

1704
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 8: and other racetracks, but typically Indiana's their home. And that's

1705
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 8: the best thing about it is it's keeping the money

1706
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 8: in the state.

1707
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta have a lot of pride in

1708
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 2: this right because it is you know, to come out

1709
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 2: here and watch this and to know and I again, Tony,

1710
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: I want to point out, as I said to Jessica,

1711
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: you know, I really do appreciate because we've had a

1712
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 2: lot of fun over the course of the summer playing

1713
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 2: Rix calls. For example, for the different races that are

1714
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,560
Speaker 2: taking place throughout county fairs, and it's just such a

1715
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: community based thing to be able to see on display,

1716
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: which is what the State Fair is all about. But

1717
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,879
Speaker 2: for us to be able to partake in that, I appreciate.

1718
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 2: It's been really cool.

1719
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 8: We appreciate you and the radio station and John Griffin

1720
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 8: and everyone's put that together. It's been a fun summer

1721
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 8: doing this and all we want to do is expose

1722
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 8: to harness racing and what a family tradition. When you

1723
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 8: see these horsemen out here, they're second, third, fourth, some

1724
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 8: fifth generation harness racing. This is the only job they've

1725
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 8: ever known and they come out and they put everything

1726
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 8: they have onto this horse.

1727
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's interesting because one of the you know,

1728
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 2: we were going to talk to a mother daughter combination

1729
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 2: that we're not only working in the the ownership side

1730
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 2: of horse racing, but you know, the young girl herself

1731
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 2: wasn't available today because she's showing a horse here at

1732
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: the State Fair, which is what you know, from an

1733
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: agricultural standpoint, what this event is all about. And truly,

1734
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 2: I think it shows kind of the family aspect of

1735
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: it and just really the entire community aspect of.

1736
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 8: It right absolutely, And it's available to Indiana whether you

1737
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 8: want to come to Hoosier Park and Anderson or you

1738
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 8: want to come down there to the state fair. Are

1739
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 8: you going to go to court? And when they have

1740
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 8: their county fair coming. It's available all over the state.

1741
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 8: Like you said, it's a two billion dollar economic inpa

1742
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,799
Speaker 8: on the state and it touches all ninety two counts.

1743
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: One thousand jobs, I mean throughout the state. You know

1744
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 2: you're talking, you know this is something that's touching all corners.

1745
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: Right you go stand in Anderson at who's your parking?

1746
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: Within an hour radius there's over twenty two hundred horses

1747
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: and thirty six ie hops right which is which is?

1748
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 2: Which is also un advantage? Right right there on Scatterfield again,

1749
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,759
Speaker 2: we're talking with Tony Renz. He is the executive director

1750
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: for the Indiana Standard Bred Association. And just about five

1751
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 2: minutes from now, we're going to talk to Rick, who

1752
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 2: is on the call and you've been hearing him on

1753
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: the call throughout the course of the summer. Before I

1754
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: let you go, Tony, I've got to ask you this

1755
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 2: because I love everything about this. So you grew up

1756
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 2: in Louisville and I asked you the burning question of

1757
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 2: are you a UK or UL fan? And you actually

1758
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 2: are basically what most people despise. Right, You're a reversible

1759
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: jacket fit. You're a bandwagon fan, is that right? You know?

1760
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 8: I like to watch good football. Okay, for the longest time,

1761
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 8: before Louisville got into the ACC, I would go watch SEC.

1762
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 8: But I love Louisville basketball, so I.

1763
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: Go that has got to be the craziest thing in Kentucky.

1764
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 2: So you're a UK football fan, but U of L

1765
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 2: basketball fan? Yes, that you have to be like the

1766
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: rarest of rare there, right, Yes, so at all times,

1767
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the state lovesy and the other fifty

1768
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 2: percent can't stand you right lately? Okay, well that's cool.

1769
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 2: That's how it is for me. Actually right here, right hey,

1770
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 2: I appreciate having us out. It's been a ton of

1771
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 2: fun today. We got to enjoy and watch all of

1772
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 2: the different racers. And as I tell people all the time,

1773
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: don't forget the team that was one half away from

1774
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 2: winning the NBA title has called the Pacers, not because

1775
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 2: necessarily of what takes place at sixteenth Georgetown, but because

1776
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: of the heritage of a sport that's been taking place

1777
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 2: since the late nineteenth century in this state and has

1778
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: been running at this state fair now for upwards now

1779
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: of ninety years. And I'm talking about the Pacers of

1780
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: Harness Racing. It's very very cool. Thank you, Jake, appreciate it.

1781
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: All right. Now we're going to talk with Rick just

1782
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 2: a minute, and we're gonna Actually I can tell right now.

1783
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: Rick's one of those guys I can tell. I always

1784
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: say there's two kinds of people in the world, those

1785
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: with the program and those that aren't. And you can

1786
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: tell when you meet somebody like this guy's with the program.

1787
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: Eddie's Eddie's been impersonating Rick and he has it down

1788
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 2: to a t. And we're gonna have Rick grade and

1789
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: critique Eddie's impersonation of Eddie. Go ahead and give him

1790
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: one real quick. We'll let Tony here, Just give me one.

1791
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 4: I gotta get there, vocal ready, ja get ready?

1792
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go.

1793
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 4: Now, which one do you want first?

1794
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 2: Well, the show's over at three, Eddie, it's one of them.

1795
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 2: Just go ahead and give me one of them real quick.

1796
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 2: It's show time. That's not bad, right, all right, We'll

1797
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 2: get Rick on here to critique Eddie's impersonation of him

1798
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 2: and talk about I'm fascinated by it because I call

1799
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 2: racing for a living, but nothing like what I was

1800
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 2: able to hear today. We'll get back to that when

1801
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: we return here to the Indiana State Fair. You are

1802
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 2: listening to Quarrying Company on ninety three five and one

1803
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 2: of seven to five to the fan. Now, I'm telling you,

1804
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: I've been to all fifty states. Okay, I've been to

1805
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: every inch of this country and in some parts of Arkansas,

1806
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: and I've been to Scotland, where this band's from. And

1807
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 2: I don't know much about anything, but I know this much,

1808
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: and that is that there are certain people that when

1809
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: you meet him, you just immediately go this guy's with

1810
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 2: the program, and like we could probably spend seven hours

1811
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: just bs and together. And that includes my next guest here,

1812
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 2: Rick Uppele, who comes to Indiana by way of Vancouver, Canada,

1813
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 2: which is one of the beautiful, beautiful cities in North America,

1814
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: probably the most beautiful area. When you get up into

1815
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 2: the Canadian Rockies, it is breathtaking. But Rick is the

1816
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 2: guy that you have been hearing each and every for

1817
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: the course of the summer, with each and every race

1818
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 2: that has been taking place throughout the Indiana Sired Fair

1819
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 2: circuit on all the county fairgrounds. And you've heard his calls.

1820
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 2: Eddie has now been working on his Rick Uppel impersonation,

1821
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 2: and Rick's going to judge all of that. But first off, Rick,

1822
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: it is great to see you man.

1823
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 7: How are you pretty good? Thank you very much, nice

1824
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 7: beating you, and thank you for the kind words.

1825
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 2: Now, so I'm curious first and foremost about this, and

1826
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 2: that is a guy that grew up in Vancouver and

1827
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:01,520
Speaker 2: now lives in Indiana.

1828
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: This is a weird question for you.

1829
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes I do this when I'm driving and I see

1830
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: the clouds on the horizon, I pretend they're mountains now now,

1831
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: and people think I'm crazy, and I said, you know what,

1832
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 2: But but people that grow up in areas that have

1833
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: mountains know what I'm talking about.

1834
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:18,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever done that?

1835
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say probably yes, yeah, there you go.

1836
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: See.

1837
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, not last time, but the time before. I took

1838
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 7: a video of the mountains. It's in my phone right now.

1839
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 7: So when I get a little homesick or whatever, I

1840
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 7: just play that video and look at the mountains. A

1841
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 7: little bit of snow covered you know, there's just nothing

1842
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 7: like it, right, can't be. It's God's country. I call

1843
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 7: it God's.

1844
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: Countykay, I want to this is I'll tell you what

1845
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 1: really is interesting to me.

1846
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: So you know, my other job besides this one is

1847
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: I do auto racing play by play, and I do

1848
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis five hundred for example, And then like, I'll

1849
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: be in your old neck of the woods in Portland,

1850
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 2: Oregon this weekend for a race. But I've listened to

1851
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: now your calls and notably your your winning calls. But today,

1852
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 2: you know, sitting here while you were doing eleven different races.

1853
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 2: I find it fascinating because you're sitting up here and

1854
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: people ask me this all the time.

1855
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: You have a monitor.

1856
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 2: We don't. I mean, you're watching a one mile oval here,

1857
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: but you're able to distinguish all of the horses to

1858
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 2: the naked eye. These are not race cars that have

1859
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: different color schemes and numbers on them. How in the

1860
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 2: world do you do it?

1861
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 7: I think I've just been doing it so long now

1862
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 7: that I've gotten accustomed to the Indiana guys. They always

1863
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 7: have the same color. That's a complete difference between thoroughbreds.

1864
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 7: When a jockey comes out. Okay, they wear different colors

1865
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 7: because they're representing the owner. Now there's a few big

1866
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 7: stables in standardbred racing where the owners have decided we

1867
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 7: want them to wear our colors. So I believe, like

1868
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 7: Diamond Creek farms, they have their own colors. So when

1869
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 7: somebody drives their horses that they.

1870
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 2: Put on their ok so then you know that's the

1871
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 2: time about farms coming out of what farm.

1872
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 7: Which also, yes, there's only about two or three of

1873
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 7: those kind of situations that happen. But basically the drivers

1874
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 7: wear you know, they have the same colors all the time.

1875
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 7: And basically memorization for me, which is pretty try try

1876
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 7: to memorize with about a meter or two to go

1877
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 7: and that way, right, that's way. It's fresh in my

1878
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 7: mind right because people say to you, oh, you must

1879
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 7: go home and study like all night long. I can't

1880
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 7: worry about tenth race. When I got to wry about the.

1881
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 2: First correct well, you know the other thing that's interesting

1882
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 2: and I'm curious for you if this is the case

1883
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:23,919
Speaker 2: for me, after a race, I have very little recollection,

1884
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 2: notably of what call was said, but also sometimes of

1885
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 2: what happened in the race, until I get back to

1886
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 2: that particular track and then look at it and I go, oh, yeah,

1887
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 2: now I remember what happened there? Right?

1888
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

1889
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 7: That makes sense? Absolutely?

1890
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 2: So with that for and let's talk real quick just

1891
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 2: about horse racing in Indiana in general, because you know

1892
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 2: you're overseeing this and you've you've been able to see

1893
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: this in comparison to Indiana from other places for those

1894
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 2: that are listening that are unfamiliar, and my apology for

1895
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 2: the neophyte nature of this, but when you when you

1896
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,560
Speaker 2: say like standard bread and then thoroughbread, the difference is

1897
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: what exactly.

1898
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 7: A standard bread is. It's just bread to be a

1899
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 7: stip a standard distance, which is one mile. Okay, you're

1900
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 7: not going to see too many places, you know, they've

1901
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 7: they ventured out and tried different things with a mile

1902
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 7: and a sixteenth sometimes a mile and a half mile

1903
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 7: and a quarter. Then there's some that are seven eighths

1904
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 7: of a mile or a half mile dash where I

1905
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 7: came from. They experimented with all that, But the actual

1906
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 7: standard bred horse itself is bread to be a standard

1907
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 7: one mile ring.

1908
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 2: So they typically a smaller horse than what you would

1909
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: see as a thoroughbread.

1910
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 7: Not necessarily smaller, but just that's just the way they're

1911
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 7: bread now with thoroughbread, all kinds of different breeding with

1912
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 7: thorough bread. Right, Some are sprinters, some are marathon horses,

1913
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 7: some are on the grass, some are on the dirt.

1914
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: So then the elites are a combination of all. You

1915
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1916
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 7: You can say that, yeah, you spend a million dollars,

1917
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 7: but there's no guarantee when you're spending that kind of money.

1918
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 7: But it's a support of kings. That's where that comes from.

1919
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: How did you get into this?

1920
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 7: I was a little kid, and I was an only child,

1921
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 7: and I can actually tell the story. I used to

1922
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 7: kind of get on my hands and I don't know,

1923
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 7: I was four or five maybe I can't quite remember,

1924
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 7: but and I put masking tape down on the carpet floor.

1925
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 7: My parents south and in Canada, they had these Nali's chips,

1926
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 7: and they used to come out and give you a

1927
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 7: coin with like a CFL player anything. I don't know.

1928
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 7: I just use a coin or poker chip something like that,

1929
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 7: and then I would push them around with my fingers

1930
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 7: and announce it. And then I think I was about

1931
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 7: eight years old and my parents took me to the

1932
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 7: third bread truck in Vancouver, and I met the announcer

1933
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 7: who was actually a pretty good announcer, and I told

1934
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 7: them that day, I'm gonna take your job. I never did,

1935
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 7: but I always wanted to be a horse racing announcer

1936
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 7: when I retired from hockey.

1937
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:43,719
Speaker 2: So you did do some hockey stuff.

1938
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 7: I did hockey, Yeah, I did hockey well before I

1939
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 7: did any racing.

1940
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 2: Okay, So and when you were doing hot and I

1941
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 2: think hockey would be that would be actually probably the

1942
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 2: best training for what you're doing because, and I mean

1943
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,879
Speaker 2: this with all due respect to me, hockey, the internation,

1944
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 2: flare of the names, and the fast paced with which

1945
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 2: you have to go from one to the next to

1946
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 2: the next would make it. I think that would be

1947
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 2: the ultimate sport of preparation for play by play.

1948
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely. Like you know your own home team, You've

1949
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 7: got them down package you've been there all year. It's

1950
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,560
Speaker 7: when you go on the road. Yeah, Like we go

1951
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 7: on a road and we would have eight games in

1952
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 7: eleven nights, you know, eight different cities. So here I

1953
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 7: am the first time seeing the team. That's a little

1954
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 7: work involved there. And you did which teams I called

1955
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 7: for the newest mister Bruins for two seasons okay, and

1956
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 7: then they end up moving to try cities in Washington State.

1957
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 7: The owner wanted to move them for whatever reason. I

1958
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 7: was so I was left jobless and that's when I

1959
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 7: landed the track job. Very first year, I sold tickets.

1960
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 7: That's when the olden days, they sold tickets and cashed

1961
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 7: at the same time and announced one day a week.

1962
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 7: The guy said, I'll let you fill in one day.

1963
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 7: I said, I'll take it. So I sold tickets that

1964
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 7: first year and announced one day, slowly worked my way

1965
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 7: up and ended up at that track full time announcer

1966
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 7: thirty four years.

1967
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you've been doing it thirty four years, and

1968
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 2: you have now Eddie, Eddie Garrison, who's back in studio

1969
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: right now. Eddie's been perfecting his Rick Uppel impersonation. Now,

1970
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 2: this is the ultimate form of flattery, is it not.

1971
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1972
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 7: Absolutely, okay, absolutely.

1973
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 2: So Eddie, here's the thing. We can we can play

1974
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 2: one of Rick's calls, or we can have Rick live

1975
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 2: here on demand do one of his calls.

1976
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: Rick, I'll let you pick which. Do you want to

1977
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: just reenact one or do you want to play one?

1978
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 7: Play one. Let's say let's play.

1979
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 2: One, okay, Eddie, Eddie, here we go go ahead and

1980
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 2: play one of Rix's calls. This is the start, I believe.

1981
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 2: And then when you call it like at the right,

1982
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 2: at the start of the race, right, all right, here

1983
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 2: we go.

1984
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 4: Hold on, Jake, hold on. I thought we were going

1985
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 4: to get a live one.

1986
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 2: We caught a pad of off guard. We caught Eddie

1987
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 2: off guard. Yeah, this is this is what happens. All right, Eddie,

1988
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 2: let me know when you're ready. It shows over at three. Okay,

1989
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:53,600
Speaker 2: here we go here, here's here we go.

1990
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 7: Showtime. Okay, now doubt Eddie.

1991
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 2: Now, Eddie, so go ahead and give us your showtime.

1992
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,480
Speaker 2: It's showtime.

1993
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 1: Not bad, that's not bad, right, Okay.

1994
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 2: Now, now let's hear let's hear Rick once once the

1995
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 2: starter what he could the starter truck essentially the starting gate,

1996
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 2: the starting gate.

1997
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a truck that has the gate in

1998
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 1: front of our cars.

1999
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 2: Once that once that kind of pulls away and and

2000
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 2: they're all going, and then we know that the race

2001
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 2: is underway. Eddie, go ahead with one of Rick's calls

2002
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 2: for that. Wow, that's that was me, that was you. Yeah, yeah,

2003
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 2: that was impressive. I was can you do that? Can

2004
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 2: you do that on demand? Okay, now, Eddie, go ahead.

2005
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 2: The pressure's on here Eddie, no pressure. And then we're

2006
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 2: gonna let Eddie. We're gonna let Eddie do it. And

2007
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 2: then Rick, I want you to give him an eight

2008
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 2: to f grade here, okay, all right, here we go.

2009
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 2: All right.

2010
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm gonna already and I don't want

2011
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 4: to do this, but I'm going to anyway. All right,

2012
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 4: Here we go three two one.

2013
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 1: There they go.

2014
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 2: A little little throaty on the their part, right, a

2015
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 2: little deep to maybe try it one more time, an

2016
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 2: I'll get another chance.

2017
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 7: He's nervous.

2018
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 2: There they go, no.

2019
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: More, it's more. This, it's more, and there they go.

2020
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 7: Right, you got it. I'll give you an A on

2021
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 7: that one seat. I might give my seat that buster minus,

2022
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 7: I'm not sure, and take around this all week, right dere,

2023
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what I've been in the game so long.

2024
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 7: I'm an old man now. But kids like like they were,

2025
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 7: like Tony was talking to, it's some community. So like

2026
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 7: get that track where I was and then my wife

2027
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 7: trained horses and I would go back there and there's

2028
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 7: a it's a family community. There's no doubt about it.

2029
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 7: I had a daughter that we took to work with

2030
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 7: us every day and she was a little Now she's

2031
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 7: training horses and married, got a husband, blah blah blah.

2032
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 7: But the kids idolize me now, and to me, that's

2033
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 7: great totally. I thought that was fantastic.

2034
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 1: Edie does.

2035
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 7: So what they did one year, the track is called

2036
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 7: Fraser Downs and they decided to come up with a

2037
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 7: Fraser Downs idle. Nice sign up, get to go up

2038
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 7: to the roof and call a race, no problem.

2039
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: So we had so you're the Simon calif Horse Racing said, I.

2040
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 7: Wasn't doing any judging r this is their opportunity to okay,

2041
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 7: and then the kids always imitate. I said, don't go

2042
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 7: ahead and take you know, eight in line, Wanda behind,

2043
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 7: stuff like that. Okay, and they all did it and

2044
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 7: they did great. And so they got into opportunity to

2045
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 7: do this one day and there was like thirty to

2046
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 7: forty people signed up. Nobody got anything after the first turn.

2047
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: They got lost, right.

2048
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 7: They did the post parade perfectly, Number two, number five,

2049
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 7: Wes Stokes, Derek Cooley drives six, Dandy Man can't leap.

2050
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 7: Everything was super. Then the race getting ready to go.

2051
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 7: There they go, dandyman can't and then they're not sure

2052
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:46,719
Speaker 7: what the next.

2053
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was pretty good listen, especially when you

2054
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 2: lose them out of sight. I mean, you know what

2055
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 2: I mean, and then you've got to come up with

2056
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:55,600
Speaker 2: you're you're having to you gotta fill a lot of

2057
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 2: time doing that. Yeah, I mean, you know when you

2058
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 2: called the Indianapolis five hundred, I've got twelve cent. I

2059
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 2: mean it only takes the forty two seconds to a lap. Right,

2060
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 2: They're doing two hundred and thirty five miles an hour,

2061
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 2: So when they come to me, I mean, I mean, Rick,

2062
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 2: I just make something up for twelve seconds. Nobody knows

2063
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 2: the difference. It's radio, and then when it's radio, you

2064
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,600
Speaker 2: can get away with anything, but everybody can see what

2065
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 2: you're calling the whole time.

2066
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,480
Speaker 7: You're just like in hockey, well yeah, they And accuracy

2067
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 7: is important, you know, because the main thing for announcing

2068
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 7: horse races. If you walk to the backstretch there, there's

2069
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 7: no TVs back there. So the horsemen are and this

2070
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 7: is their bread and butter. Their lives depend on sure

2071
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 7: where their horse finishes. So if I'm accurate and letting

2072
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,560
Speaker 7: him know they finished, third, they're kind of counting on that.

2073
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:39,680
Speaker 7: But if you've got a guy that's calling and he's

2074
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 7: not quite always on, I'm gonna say I'm ninety nine

2075
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 7: point six percent correct, even in tight photos or whatever,

2076
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 7: just because I've been doing it a long time, and

2077
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 7: if you're on the right angle, you'll be able to

2078
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 7: do it. You can be on the wrong angle and

2079
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 7: never call one.

2080
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 2: Now, do you let me ask you this when you're

2081
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 2: calling a race? I find this is another thing that

2082
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 2: I learned today that is fascinating to me. If if

2083
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 2: a horse gets out of trot, if I'm not saying

2084
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 2: that correctly, it gets out of pays a break, makes

2085
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 2: a break makes a break? Ye, okay, how does your

2086
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 2: eye see that? Have you just been around enough that

2087
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 2: you can tell you just tell yes, you can just

2088
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 2: tell it right, just different. Do you ever feel like

2089
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 2: there was a horse today and I can't remember which

2090
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,640
Speaker 2: race it was, but you're calling it right, and I'm

2091
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 2: watching it and you're calling them like going into turn

2092
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 2: three and there's one poor guy that's just kind of

2093
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 2: trotting along just on a Sunday jog.

2094
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 7: Okay, there's one way back there.

2095
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 2: He was gallop derby Derby something, that's what you got it,

2096
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 2: You're right, And so I felt sorry for him.

2097
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 7: Yeah I did too.

2098
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 1: Derby Up.

2099
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 7: He was a horse that came in from Ohio, okay,

2100
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 7: you know, and he's got a couple of nice races

2101
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 7: on his cart. Uh, he just wasn't up to his

2102
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:46,639
Speaker 7: So what happened? What happens? He could be hurting a little,

2103
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 7: you know, didn't like the track surface, Maybe the equipment

2104
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 7: was something wrong, but usually we can identify if there's

2105
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 7: broken equipment. That's when a horse will not stay on.

2106
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 7: It's what they call gate. Okay, g I t that's

2107
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 7: the game, trot and pace. So this was a pacer

2108
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 7: and he just wasn't on his game today and he

2109
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 7: just went on the gallop. And once they go on

2110
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 7: a gallop there, you know, maybe something even in their mouth,

2111
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 7: like they tried a different bit to try and get

2112
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 7: a better performance ro home.

2113
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: So do they know?

2114
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 7: Do they know?

2115
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: They know? Pretty early on though, very smart, but also

2116
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 1: the driver right, yeah, does he know? Hey? You know what,

2117
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 1: there's no sense at this point and pushing this. I

2118
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 1: just got it.

2119
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 2: Basically, as you mentioned, I got across the line to

2120
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 2: get the nickel, get.

2121
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 7: The Nickel, right, and he's the first time driving this horse,

2122
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 7: so he might not known some of the quirks of

2123
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 7: the horse. Right, got up to the gate, maybe too soon,

2124
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 7: maybe didn't get up enough, or you know, a million variables.

2125
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 7: That's what horse raising. It's all about his variables.

2126
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 2: When you are and your wife is a trainer of courses, right,

2127
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 2: and you've been around this for a long time, you

2128
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 2: know when when raising or training a horse, it is

2129
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 2: a how many hour a day job?

2130
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:56,919
Speaker 7: Three sixty five, seven days a week. Yeah, constantly, right, constantly,

2131
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 7: And he might get away without having to do something

2132
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 7: Christmas maybe maybe maybe you gotta pay a little extra

2133
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 7: to have somebody go to feed that horse, clean its stall. Uh,

2134
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 7: you gotta do that seven days a week.

2135
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 2: But you know, the one of the things I found

2136
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 2: interesting in talking about this earlier, Rick Couples our guests.

2137
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,879
Speaker 2: By the way, we're out here at the Indiana State Fairgrounds.

2138
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,560
Speaker 2: Racing is complete for the day, All eleven races have

2139
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 2: taken place. But I didn't realize that even in the

2140
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Speaker 2: depths of winter, barring eight feet of snow or ice,

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01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 2: that even in the cold temperatures, the horses still are

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01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 2: going out all year long outdoors to train or trot

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Speaker 2: of some sort.

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Speaker 7: Right, Yes, it all depends if it's very cold. There's

2145
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 7: some people that will take the day off because it's

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01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 7: not healthy for the horse.

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01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I wondered if there I mean, I would I think.

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Speaker 7: There's certain temporaries, yes, exactly.

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01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 1: Unless they're Canadian. Those horses tough. Right.

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01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 7: Well, Vancouver is the California of Canada, by the way,

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01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 7: So I'm just gonna wait to know that one it is.

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01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 7: We're right on the ocean. Yeah, and I learned not

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01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,600
Speaker 7: too long ago that the salt water how prevents it

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01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 7: from snowing, Like it'll still there and then it'll melt

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01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 7: the next day.

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01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:05,720
Speaker 2: That's beautiful there, man.

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01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 7: You know, there's the odd time where it might be

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01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 7: like a foot and it takes a few days to

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01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,640
Speaker 7: get rid of it. But yeah, and the funny thing

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01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 7: you're mentioning about, I lost my train of thought there.

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01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: For a second. Well, just talking about like the cold air.

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01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, the cold Okay, So what's happened since then? We

2163
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 7: came here in twenty thirteen, I left Washington, say, my

2164
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 7: wife was already here at Hoo's your park, racing with

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01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 7: my daughter, and the season was over at Who's Your

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01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 7: Park in November. I drove here December, brought some of

2167
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 7: our stuff from the house, and I parked at a

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01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 7: condo that we were going to rent, and got on

2169
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 7: a plane immediately to Florida. And I was living the dream. Yeah,

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01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 7: nine years in a row. We raced here at Hoo'sier

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01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 7: from March to November, and then truck got a truck,

2172
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 7: courses took them down, raced in Florida, had a fifth

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01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 7: wheel trailer parked already down there, and spent four to

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01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 7: five months down there every where life man every winter. Yeah,

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01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 7: and then it came to an end. The governor came

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01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 7: in and they said, well, we're gonna get more money

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01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 7: from casinos. We don't need you guys. And that's what

2178
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 7: Paparo Park came.

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01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:10,640
Speaker 1: To an end.

2180
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 7: Started in nineteen sixty four and closed in twenty twenty one.

2181
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 2: Been impressed by and maybe even surprised by.

2182
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 1: The long standing heritage and history of this sport in

2183
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 1: this state.

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01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 7: Yes, yeh, yes, because in Canada there's no such thing

2185
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 7: as fair racing note at all, And I wasn't even

2186
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 7: familiar with harness racing like at night. It firstly came there. Well,

2187
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 7: I can actually tell you. I was probably four or

2188
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,640
Speaker 7: five years old. I don't member a whole lot. There

2189
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 7: was a harness track in a part of Vancouver and

2190
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 7: my parents took me, but then it closed like within years,

2191
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 7: so there was never any harness racing. I knew nothing

2192
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 7: about it. I grew up watching thoroughbreds. My uncle had thoroughbreds,

2193
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 7: and one of my uncles was an exercise rider. The

2194
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 7: other one was a trader and owner. And harness racing

2195
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 7: came in nineteen seventy six and I went with some

2196
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 7: cousins of mine. We went on and many seven or something.

2197
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 2: They've been doing it for the watch, I mean at

2198
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 2: this point, one hundred years here, right, exactly at that point. Now,

2199
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 2: growing up in Canada's maple syrup, a beverage.

2200
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 7: Canby.

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01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:15,600
Speaker 1: They have a lot of beverages in Canada, right, I

2202
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 1: prefer the Canadian bacon. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, it's circular. Right,

2203
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 1: what about the bats.

2204
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 7: I'm not a drinker. Okay, that's a lot of drink

2205
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 7: that but uh.

2206
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

2207
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 2: Roots clothing.

2208
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 1: You're familiar with roots clothing, Yeah, I've heard of it,

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01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: oh Man roots nine.

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01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:36,799
Speaker 2: Ward roots clothing made in Canada outstanding like high quality,

2211
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 2: kind of like the broadcasters in Canada high quality, right,

2212
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 2: a little bit better than what you get in the US.

2213
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 7: There's some pretty good ones, are very good ones.

2214
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 2: What what is your schedule now? You know obviously next

2215
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 2: week is big here on the thirteenth. I mean, you

2216
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 2: got the Indiana Governor's Cup, which is a massive deal.

2217
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

2218
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 2: And we've been you know, you've been kind of leading

2219
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 2: up a point system essentially to that the culmination of it, right, Yes,

2220
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 2: it is going to be a big deal. Yes, as

2221
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, we have we've been given away.

2222
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 2: Rick at two thirty will announce who our winner is

2223
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 2: of a barn tour and get a whole state fair

2224
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 2: package to come out here, which.

2225
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 1: Is going to be cool. But the rest of the summer,

2226
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 1: in particular for you is what it starts.

2227
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 7: Actually in Kentucky. I'm employed in Kentucky to do four

2228
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 7: of seven fares. So I do Kentucky and everything kind

2229
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 7: of just bounces off of each other. No, there's only

2230
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:27,640
Speaker 7: one time there's a conflict. Then I mingle in Indiana

2231
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 7: and now just over the last couple of years, Illinois

2232
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 7: hired me and I go to Springfield and to coin

2233
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 7: and right now, the next three gigs I've got are

2234
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 7: all right here today, next Wednesday, and then a following Monday.

2235
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,560
Speaker 7: There's a what they call the isa Elite, So you

2236
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 7: make certain payments and certain horses get the race of that,

2237
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 7: and that's going to take place on a Monday morning

2238
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 7: here after the fair is over.

2239
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 1: And you met your wife doing this right, yes, okay,

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01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 1: and that you've been married.

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01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 7: How long I've been married? I better take get this right?

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01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 7: Twenty eight years.

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01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:00,560
Speaker 1: Okay, because Eddie was curious of this.

2244
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 2: Now I wouldn't ask this, but Eddie was curious and

2245
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 2: wanted me to ask you, if, say, thirty five years ago, okay,

2246
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 2: when you were I know the question coming right now,

2247
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 2: did you ever walk up to ladies and just say

2248
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 2: it's showtime?

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01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 1: Ever? Once? I mean just once?

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01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 7: Right, I plead the fifty. Well, I'll p you know

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01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 7: I've I was married originally and had two beautiful daughters

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01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 7: and they're now growing up and providing me with grandchildren.

2253
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 7: Right then, there was a period of time where I

2254
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 7: was single in between five six years and then met

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01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 7: this amazing woman that I'm married too.

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01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,600
Speaker 2: So Eddie just had a curiosity if you were not

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01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 2: with Olivia and you were going out.

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01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: Let's say to the Teaky Bobs.

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01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 2: If it was still around, Eddie and you walked up,

2260
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 2: what would you say to a woman to try to

2261
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 2: go ahead and give me your word there that you'd use, Eddie.

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01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 4: Well, here's the problem, Jacob. If I'm at Teeky Bob's

2263
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 4: which no longer six, I don't know is that existing?

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01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 1: And all I thought it was clear, No, it's gone,

2265
01:46:57,640 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: it's gone.

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01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,600
Speaker 4: Well that's number one. Number two. I wouldn't do that

2267
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 4: because I don't think they would understand the reference.

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01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 1: You don't know that, man.

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01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 4: It would have to with state Fair.

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01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 1: By looking at you, yes, they would not understand. They're okay.

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01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 2: So if you were at the State Fair, if you

2272
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 2: were at the midway, Eddie, you'd walk up and you'd say, what,

2273
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 2: it's shut time.

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01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 1: That's not bad, right way bad.

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01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give hi an A on that one. That

2276
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 7: was real good, A on that one that was real good.

2277
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 2: Hey, Rick, it's man, it's awesome. I know you said

2278
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 2: you're going to Kentucky. You'll be back at least a

2279
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:27,719
Speaker 2: week from today, right, yeah, oh no, for sure. Indiana

2280
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 2: Governor's Cup and We've appreciated it, you know. I mentioned

2281
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 2: we've had a lot of fun being able to play

2282
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,480
Speaker 2: these calls over the course of the summer at fairgrounds

2283
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 2: throughout the state and all of it leading up to

2284
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 2: a culmination on what is a two billion dollar sport

2285
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 2: here in the state of Indiana. And certainly appreciate your

2286
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 2: time in jumping over here and being a good sport

2287
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 2: about it.

2288
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 7: I appreciate you inviting me on the show. And if

2289
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 7: you're going to be back here next Wednesday and you've

2290
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 7: got some packages that you're giving away to people, you

2291
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 7: can invite them up and have a seat rape beside me.

2292
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 7: That'd be awesome to watch a race. That'd be awesome.

2293
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 7: I call it go from there because you could even

2294
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 7: come up.

2295
01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,560
Speaker 2: You're sitting right up there and I'm looking at it

2296
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 2: and I'm going, how in the world does he know

2297
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 2: who all of them are? It's pretty impressive and he's

2298
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 2: got a down pat, so it is definitely impressive. Appreciate it,

2299
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 2: and we will actually announce who that winner is going

2300
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 2: to be that's going to get the State Fair package.

2301
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 2: We'll do it on the other side when we come

2302
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 2: back here to the Indiana State Fair.

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01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 1: Fair Grounds.

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01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 2: Racing is complete today on this one mile oval, but

2305
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 2: Indiana Governor's Cup a week from today will let you

2306
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 2: know who it is. As those of you who have

2307
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 2: been signing up at Indiana Harness dot com, the website

2308
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 2: where you can find out all of the information about

2309
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 2: horse racing in the state of Indiana and where you

2310
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 2: can hear Rick continuing to do his thing. We will

2311
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 2: let you know that just on the other side. And

2312
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 2: then yesterday what happened in Baltimore, speaking of the colts

2313
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 2: of the other variation, we'll get to that in just

2314
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes as well. It's quarrying Company here

2315
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 2: on ninety three five and one of seven to five.

2316
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 1: The fan.

2317
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 2: Tons of fun out here today and Rick Uppboll You

2318
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 2: got to give Rick a ton of credit. Totally good

2319
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 2: sport and just a good dude, no question about it.

2320
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 2: Tony Rins is back with us, the executive director of

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01:48:56,280 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 2: the Indiana Standardbred Association. Tony first and foremost, you were saying,

2322
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 2: and this is cool. I mean even in your capacity

2323
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 2: with this sport, like anything, you know, there's always room

2324
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 2: to learn and grow.

2325
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 1: And you said Rick's been great about that, right.

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01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 8: You know, Rick and his wife Cassandra. They also work

2327
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 8: as the horseman reps for the ISA, and they have

2328
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 8: so much knowledge and all the horsemen do, I mean,

2329
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 8: and they're so easy to approach. They're all approachable and

2330
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 8: because trust me, I come up with dumb questions all

2331
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 8: the time. Some of them I could tell you what

2332
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 8: I do for a living exactly.

2333
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2334
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 8: But yeah, they're so great at it, and everybody is friendly.

2335
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 8: Like Rick said on the way out, he said, you know,

2336
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 8: on the track, it's competitive and we'll go at it,

2337
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 8: but once the race is over, they'll help you move

2338
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 8: furniture if.

2339
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 1: You need it.

2340
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. So and which is And I would imagine even

2341
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 2: with and we talked about it, with the growing nature

2342
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 2: of this sporting continuing to grow. I mean, you've seen

2343
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 2: it in the time that you've been doing it, and

2344
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 2: we talked about it. But even with that growth, I

2345
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 2: would imagine and that it is still a pretty close

2346
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 2: knit group in terms of.

2347
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: I always say, like.

2348
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 2: Within the work that we do, you know, people will

2349
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 2: ask me about competitors at a different radio station or

2350
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 2: television station, and I always say yeah, But at the

2351
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 2: same time, we all kind of get along because we

2352
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 2: know what each others are what each other are going through,

2353
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 2: and there's not a lot of us, right, I mean,

2354
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 2: there's only so many people that do it.

2355
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,719
Speaker 1: I would think in your nature of work that also

2356
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 1: holds true.

2357
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 8: It is, it's a very small world. This past weekend

2358
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 8: I went up to one hundredth Hamiltonian and the meadowlands

2359
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 8: in New Jersey, and people up there I see own

2360
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 8: horses down here and they live in New Jersey, but

2361
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 8: they're buying into Indiana just because the program's so strong,

2362
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 8: and it's a very small world. And some of them

2363
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 8: own horses that will actually race against each other and

2364
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:54,640
Speaker 8: they're interconnected, if that makes any sense. It's kind of

2365
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 8: a confusing piece, but it's a very small world.

2366
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 2: In horse the horse racing that we saw today, those

2367
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 2: horses all two years old. Correct, you had two and

2368
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 2: three years olds in there. And then again, dumb question.

2369
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 2: The maximum age a horse can be to race is what.

2370
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 8: Horse can not race after they're fourteen years old? Okay,

2371
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 8: And in standard bred world, obviously two and three year

2372
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 8: olds are very important because that's where they're getting their

2373
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 8: legs under them and you're starting to understand what kind

2374
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 8: of horse that is. But sometimes they don't hit their

2375
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 8: prime until they're five, six, seven, eight years old, and

2376
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 8: many of them are race competitively up to eleven twelve

2377
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:38,759
Speaker 8: years old and still be a good horse.

2378
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask another I'm almost embarrassed to ask

2379
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 2: it question. Okay, but I know obviously one of the

2380
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 2: goals in horse racing is to breed a horse that

2381
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 2: has the pedigree that then escalates the price of you know,

2382
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 2: it's offspring. Obviously, is a horse allowed to be a

2383
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 2: stud or being that if it is still racing or

2384
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 2: is it only once a horse retires?

2385
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:04,639
Speaker 1: Is that a dumb question?

2386
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 7: No, it's not.

2387
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 8: And I've asked that question not too long ago. I've

2388
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 8: got some familiarity with thoroughbreds, but I had to ask

2389
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 8: so that in the standard bred world, and there are

2390
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 8: times that they will breed in the standard bord world

2391
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:19,719
Speaker 8: and continue racing. The thing that a lot of times

2392
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 8: you see is if it's a really good pedigree horse

2393
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 8: and it's a good stallion, a stud, then they don't

2394
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 8: want to take a chance on that horse maybe racing

2395
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 8: and turn a foot or do something catastrophic. That horse

2396
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 8: becomes more valuable because of its breeding.

2397
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 2: Right, Well, you know it, I mean this year, and

2398
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 2: I know a lot was made of this. I personally

2399
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 2: didn't go fact check it. I have no reason to

2400
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,719
Speaker 2: believe it would not be true that this year's Kentucky

2401
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 2: Derby featured every horse in the Kentucky Derby was of

2402
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 2: the lineage ancestry wise of Secretariat, It's very possible. So

2403
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 2: basically they were all like, you know, twelve cousins of

2404
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 2: one another. But nonetheless I mean, but which is amazing

2405
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 2: though when you think about it, Tony, because you're talking

2406
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 2: about a racehorse that was racing fifty two years ago,

2407
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:14,679
Speaker 2: and yet that shows you the importance of that lineage

2408
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 2: and that heritage and everything.

2409
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 1: That goes out with it.

2410
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 8: You know, next week we're gonna have a young lady

2411
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:22,759
Speaker 8: on who works with the Midwest Harness Cell. That happens

2412
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 8: here at the fair Grounds in October, and that's a

2413
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 8: piece of the business. I really want to kind of

2414
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 8: show your listeners a little bit and invite them in

2415
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 8: to see, because that's where the year leans are brought

2416
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 8: in and they're sold, and you see people and how

2417
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 8: they're looking at the horse and what are they looking

2418
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 8: for and is the horse's step the right step? Is

2419
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 8: the knees are the knees looking solid. It's a piece

2420
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 8: of the business that I've fallen in love with watching it.

2421
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 8: And so in October I think she said they're going

2422
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 8: to sell just over seven hundred horses.

2423
01:53:58,360 --> 01:53:58,639
Speaker 1: Really.

2424
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a three day process. If you get a

2425
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 8: chance comes, it's free to go to come, spend just

2426
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,480
Speaker 8: thirty minutes and you will be mesmerized.

2427
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you know just the care that goes

2428
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 2: into each and every horse. I mean for that fact, right,

2429
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a huge animal guy. Right, I'm a

2430
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:19,559
Speaker 2: huge animal lover. But when you think about the equity

2431
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:22,600
Speaker 2: that goes into it, that right there is why you know,

2432
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 2: the treatment, the care, the compassion, all of it that

2433
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 2: goes in for a horse, which is top notch for

2434
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 2: those reasons obviously, all right, we have been given away

2435
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 2: opportunities over the course of the summer to win a

2436
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 2: state fair pack. Now this includes admission to the fair,

2437
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 2: it includes food vouchers, You get a barn tour, which

2438
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 2: is very cool because you get your chance to see

2439
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 2: kind of behind the scenes of all of it.

2440
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 1: And we now have our winner, correct, Tony, we do.

2441
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 8: We pick the winner today and it is a young

2442
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 8: lady Laura Chaer s h E A R E R.

2443
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 8: She's of Indianapolis. We will be reaching out to her

2444
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 8: via email, okay, and again we'd like to have her

2445
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 8: come out on Governor's Cup Day. We'll have her do

2446
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 8: a trophy presentation. Well, that's awesome, tatter back into the

2447
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 8: barns and let her kind of see these horses a

2448
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 8: little bit. I believe we've got six passes for her

2449
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 8: to come to the fair parking, We've got one hundred

2450
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 8: dollars food voucher, we've got a nice swag bag of

2451
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 8: ISA material, and hopefully we've invited the governor. So, Governor Braun,

2452
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 8: if you're listening, we'd love to have you come out

2453
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 8: and also present a trophy at the Governor's Cup.

2454
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 2: That's right, It is the Governor's Cup, right, so I

2455
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 2: guess he just calls it the my cup right when

2456
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 2: he's handing it out. But again, Tony Rin's the executive

2457
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 2: director of the Indiana Standardbred Association and the winner again,

2458
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 2: Laura Sheer of Indianapolis, will get that prize pack, which

2459
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 2: is very very cool. And then, needless to say, Edie,

2460
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 2: needless to say, when Laura comes and she gets all

2461
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 2: of that and it's right there before her, and when

2462
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 2: the racing's about to get underway, Eddie, she will hear

2463
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 2: the famous words from Rick that you can impersonate, which

2464
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 2: would be just at the start of the race. Eddie,

2465
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 2: what's she gonna hear? It's show down. Yes, okay, Finally, Tony,

2466
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 2: let me ask you this. You got to grade my

2467
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 2: my racehorse name. Everybody has, like if they were gonna

2468
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 2: have a race horse and name it now. I mentioned earlier, Jessica,

2469
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 2: I do have one racehorse name that I can't say

2470
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 2: on the radio because it's PG thirteen at minimum.

2471
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

2472
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 2: But the other one that I would go with the

2473
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 2: the radio safe racehorse name, and I want you to

2474
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 2: grade me on the name I came up with, unequal to.

2475
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 1: Equine, unequal eque, unequal to equine.

2476
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 8: I like the name. Someone like a Rick Upple or

2477
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 8: a track announcer, They're not gonna like that name. You

2478
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 8: can get tongue tied on that red Yeah, I know,

2479
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 8: too tricky, right, yeah, too trick. That is something that

2480
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 8: we do need to get you come up to Hoo's

2481
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 8: your park on like a Tuesday Wednesday night call a

2482
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 8: race one aw.

2483
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 1: Man it'd be awesome.

2484
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 8: You'd have a blast.

2485
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 1: I would be terrible at it, but it would be awesome.

2486
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 8: We even have towers that the cameraman go into, and

2487
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 8: there is a third term tower up there. Really, we'd

2488
01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 8: only let you go up that if you want to,

2489
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 8: We're gonna put you up in the announcers I.

2490
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 2: Go up, I'd go to Turn three. I'd go up

2491
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 2: in the Turn three tower. I'll be terrible at it,

2492
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:11,480
Speaker 2: but it would be awesome to do it. It would

2493
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 2: be awesome. Listen, you guys have been a great hosts

2494
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 2: today and I certainly appreciate it. We've had a lot

2495
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 2: of fun and it was totally fun. I still feel

2496
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 2: bad for Derby up because he took the day off

2497
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 2: today and that was disappointing, but the rest of them

2498
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 2: it was awesome.

2499
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. Tony, appreciate you having

2500
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: us out.

2501
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 8: Jake, thank you so much, and thank everybody.

2502
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.

2503
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 2: Tony Rens again, the executive director for the Indiana Standardbred Association.

2504
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 2: A week from today, Governor's Cup taking place right here

2505
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 2: at the Indiana State Fairgrounds. Keep in mind, this is

2506
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 2: something that's been taking place in this state with this

2507
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 2: sport for now, gosh, nearly one hundred and fifty years,

2508
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 2: been taking place at the State Fair for nearly one hundred,

2509
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 2: So we're talking about a rich, rich tradition of horse

2510
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 2: racing in Indiana. Also a rich tradition is that of

2511
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 2: talking about the quarterback position for the Colts, and we

2512
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 2: will get into that because it took place yesterday in

2513
01:57:56,760 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 2: Baltimore with the practices with the Ravens, including a fight.

2514
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 2: We'll let you know what happened with the fisticuffs and

2515
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 2: what player led to it. I'll tell you all of that.

2516
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 2: We come back to Quarrying Company here ninety three five

2517
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:11,560
Speaker 2: and one of seven to five the fan. Thanks again

2518
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 2: to Tony for Jessica for Rick having us out today

2519
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 2: at the Indiana State Fairgrounds. Next week, that is a

2520
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,839
Speaker 2: week from today, for the Indiana's Governor, cup Greg Raikstraw

2521
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 2: will be out here filling in.

2522
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 1: That is the and it bums me out, actually because.

2523
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 2: I really that's going to be a cool deal, and

2524
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:34,960
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of fun out here today, But

2525
01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 2: a week from today is or already was our pre

2526
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:42,360
Speaker 2: planned like a year ago. I think, well, right when

2527
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 2: the tickets came out, my annual Shannon and I's annual

2528
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:48,880
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball Day game. We do one per year,

2529
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 2: and we'll do we are doing it a week from today,

2530
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 2: and that was set in stone and all locked in

2531
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 2: for all of the logistics for it. But Greg will

2532
01:58:57,640 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 2: be here a week from today. Gonna be a lot

2533
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 2: of fun and I know that he will enjoy being

2534
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 2: out here. Rick was a super cool dude. It was

2535
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 2: a fun interview chatting with a guy that calls horse

2536
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 2: racing and grew up doing so in Canada. And when

2537
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 2: he mentioned having you know, the tape on his carpet

2538
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:18,480
Speaker 2: and pushing pieces around and calling a race fictionally, I

2539
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 2: a hundred percent can relate to that. And I know

2540
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 2: Mark James would tell you the same thing when he

2541
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 2: was a kid, you know, dreaming of calling the five hundred.

2542
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 2: And you know, just by in Rick's case, skill came

2543
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 2: into play. In my case, in a Marx case, but

2544
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 2: in my case, just right place, right time, truth be

2545
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 2: told yesterday, right place, right time, or wrong place, wrong time.

2546
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 2: For Nate Wiggins, the young defensive back for the Ravens

2547
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 2: who was a first round pick a year ago, still

2548
01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 2: just twenty one years old, but he was getting as

2549
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:55,880
Speaker 2: James Boyd said earlier today he was getting cooked by

2550
01:59:56,640 --> 02:00:00,480
Speaker 2: Adie Mitchell, and Adie Mitchell was routinely burning him. That

2551
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 2: was not the reason, per se for the fisticuffs that

2552
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:08,919
Speaker 2: took place. I'm using fisticuffs in air quotes. The skirmish

2553
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:12,280
Speaker 2: that took place at Colts Camp yesterday. It happened during

2554
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 2: a special teams drill when Tyler Goodson got knocked down.

2555
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:20,880
Speaker 2: I think took exception to the force with which he

2556
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:23,320
Speaker 2: was knocked down, and when he jumped up with a

2557
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 2: little bravada about him. That led to some pushing and shoving,

2558
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 2: and that led for Nate Wiggins to jump off of

2559
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 2: the sidelines, run out for the Ravens and get involved

2560
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 2: in the fray that led for Nate Wiggins to have

2561
02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 2: an early end to the practice session. The reason I

2562
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:45,640
Speaker 2: mention it, you would have to assume that perhaps some

2563
02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:48,200
Speaker 2: of that was the frustration of what had taken place

2564
02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 2: for him over the course of the day, and what

2565
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:52,240
Speaker 2: had taken place for him over the course of the

2566
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 2: day was the play of eighty Mitchell gettinghim frustrated.

2567
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 1: And that's a good thing. Because we talked about this earlier.

2568
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what the role is for Adie Mitchell,

2569
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:07,360
Speaker 2: but you wanted to be a role. I mean, obviously

2570
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 2: he had a role within the offense a year ago,

2571
02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:11,680
Speaker 2: but for the Colts, part of the role that he

2572
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 2: had within the offense you almost felt like was them

2573
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 2: going through the window dressing of trying to get him

2574
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:22,320
Speaker 2: involved just to see, you know, to acclimate him, but

2575
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:25,800
Speaker 2: also to see who and what he is. And for

2576
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 2: the most part he was a guy that was just

2577
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:30,800
Speaker 2: kind of going through the reps. But what has been

2578
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:35,120
Speaker 2: preached about the wide receiver position in the NFL by

2579
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 2: the Colts patients patience and letting it come naturally. And

2580
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 2: I think that you know, certainly, we have made the

2581
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:49,800
Speaker 2: point a lot that Reggie Wayne was not a year

2582
02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 2: one breakout. Alec Pierce was not a year one breakout.

2583
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Marvin Harrison was a year one breakout, and

2584
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 2: then he got hurt and separated his shoulder.

2585
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:01,800
Speaker 1: It was and miss time.

2586
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 2: So it takes a while at that position to just

2587
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:08,440
Speaker 2: kind of figure out who and what you are. And

2588
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:11,320
Speaker 2: I think Adie Mitchell a year ago, you hope, I mean,

2589
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 2: the hope is that that was the only thing holding

2590
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:19,160
Speaker 2: back Adie Mitchell was simply time, you know, and what

2591
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:20,360
Speaker 2: have we learned in the movie.

2592
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 1: That Eddie has yet to see shawshank redemption.

2593
02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:25,400
Speaker 2: I have not. Sometimes all it takes is pressure and time,

2594
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:29,080
Speaker 2: and in the case of Adie Mitchell, maybe he realizes

2595
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 2: that the clock is ticking. Yes, you get time in

2596
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 2: the NFL, but at the receiver position you probably get

2597
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:36,520
Speaker 2: two years. And so he knows this is a big

2598
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 2: year for him. And so far in camp he has

2599
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 2: had a good camp, and notably of late, I don't

2600
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:44,840
Speaker 2: know that it started out a great camp for Ady Mitchell.

2601
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 2: There was certainly some talk of like, where is Adie Mitchell,

2602
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it was just boom,

2603
02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 2: there he is. And he's played well. The other storyline

2604
02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 2: that came out yesterday aside from the quarterback position, and

2605
02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:01,080
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about that plenty between now and

2606
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 2: week one.

2607
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:08,360
Speaker 1: And I have totally flip flopped. Barring an injury.

2608
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 2: Or a complete collapse, I think at this point it

2609
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:16,840
Speaker 2: is Anthony Richardson's job, and it probably has been all along.

2610
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:18,760
Speaker 1: I really thought Daniel Jones.

2611
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 2: There was this weird feeling that Daniel Jones might have

2612
02:03:21,120 --> 02:03:23,200
Speaker 2: been just a more consistent option and that was going

2613
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 2: to allow him to be the one to get the nod,

2614
02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 2: But I'm off of that now. I think just based

2615
02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 2: on the way the process, the way things have gone,

2616
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 2: the reps that he's gotten, it feels to me like,

2617
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:39,600
Speaker 2: in fact, Anthony Richardson is going to be the guy

2618
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 2: and he's earned that right this year, because it does

2619
02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 2: look like has he jumped out at you and said,

2620
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:50,720
Speaker 2: holy cow, this is Steve young Michael Vick, you know,

2621
02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:53,480
Speaker 2: all wrapped into one. No he is not. But he

2622
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:58,080
Speaker 2: hasn't regressed per se. It has not been as noticeable

2623
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 2: a regression as what would take probably for him to

2624
02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:04,480
Speaker 2: have the keys taken back away from him. And I

2625
02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 2: think the Colts learned from putting him at an accelerated

2626
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:12,080
Speaker 2: pace into a role without making him earn it first.

2627
02:04:12,600 --> 02:04:16,400
Speaker 2: And even if even if they knew Daniel Jones was

2628
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 2: not going to be the guy that was going to

2629
02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 2: come in and jump off the page, they have at

2630
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:25,560
Speaker 2: the very least they have created the imagery or the

2631
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:29,480
Speaker 2: design that Anthony Richardson has earned the job and earned

2632
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 2: the right. Hunter Waller is another storyline that we have

2633
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 2: not talked a lot about, but yesterday kind of jumped

2634
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:37,920
Speaker 2: out had a couple of picks of Lamar Jackson, or

2635
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 2: a couple of picks. One of them on Lamar Jackson,

2636
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:42,480
Speaker 2: the seventh round pick, the safety out of Wisconsin. We

2637
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 2: had him on the show right after he was drafted.

2638
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:48,360
Speaker 2: Was super fun and you're pulling for the guy because

2639
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:50,280
Speaker 2: number one, he was a super fun interview, but more

2640
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:53,320
Speaker 2: importantly because that is I mean, if you are a

2641
02:04:53,480 --> 02:05:00,760
Speaker 2: seventh round pick. Great franchises and very good teams are

2642
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:03,840
Speaker 2: often not defined by their first and second round pick.

2643
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:07,320
Speaker 2: They're often defined by the frequency with which they can

2644
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 2: get production out of the like five through eight guys

2645
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 2: in by round and when once you reach a mountaintop.

2646
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:20,640
Speaker 2: If you look at the Peyton Manning era Colts, they

2647
02:05:20,720 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 2: got a lot of production out of seventh and eighth

2648
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:27,600
Speaker 2: round picks and undrafted free agents. But at the same time,

2649
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 2: some of that was a little bit of fool's goal

2650
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:33,160
Speaker 2: because their salary was such that they had like eighty

2651
02:05:33,200 --> 02:05:35,400
Speaker 2: percent of their salary was tied up in their top

2652
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 2: ten percent of players. And so when you have Peyton

2653
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:43,400
Speaker 2: Manning and Dwight Freeney and Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne

2654
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:47,280
Speaker 2: and Edrin James and Robert mathis that are making so

2655
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:52,280
Speaker 2: much money, you have to make that up by putting

2656
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 2: guys in position at the bare minimum cost. And so

2657
02:05:55,960 --> 02:05:58,880
Speaker 2: the Jason Davids of the world you can look at

2658
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:01,800
Speaker 2: and say, man, that they got huge value at that position.

2659
02:06:01,880 --> 02:06:04,480
Speaker 2: They got great reps at that position. But there also

2660
02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:06,240
Speaker 2: is a level of you're kind of masking it a

2661
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:08,400
Speaker 2: little bit, and so inorganically you have guys that are

2662
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:11,200
Speaker 2: playing that spot because you can't afford to put somebody

2663
02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:14,040
Speaker 2: there that is a third round pick, and so you

2664
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:16,560
Speaker 2: have to put guys in there. And Jason David was

2665
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 2: a good player, don't get me wrong, but you have

2666
02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:19,800
Speaker 2: to put guys in there to an extent just to

2667
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:22,240
Speaker 2: make it work. And in this case for the Colts,

2668
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,960
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily about that. It's about just trying to

2669
02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:27,080
Speaker 2: find the best players you can get. And when you

2670
02:06:27,240 --> 02:06:31,040
Speaker 2: get guys that organically as seventh and eighth rounders are

2671
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:33,720
Speaker 2: playing their way under the roster, not out of financial

2672
02:06:33,800 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 2: necessity for the franchise, but out of the fact that

2673
02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:39,520
Speaker 2: they are producing. And they got that yesterday from Wolert.

2674
02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:42,240
Speaker 2: That's a bonus. That's a bonus, And yeah, is he

2675
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:44,400
Speaker 2: going to be your starting safety no. Is he a

2676
02:06:44,520 --> 02:06:46,840
Speaker 2: depth piece that is going to be a special teams

2677
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:49,480
Speaker 2: guy to begin with, and then in an emergency you

2678
02:06:49,520 --> 02:06:51,280
Speaker 2: can put them in there and feel good about it. Yes,

2679
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:54,879
Speaker 2: that's what you're looking for at that spot. I appreciate

2680
02:06:54,920 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 2: everybody having us out today for the harness racing here

2681
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:01,920
Speaker 2: at the Indiana State Fair tomorrow Legends Golf Course.

2682
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 1: We look forward to it.

2683
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 2: Franciscan Health and their foundation will benefit from our golf

2684
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:08,640
Speaker 2: outing will be out there all day tomorrow. I can't

2685
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:10,240
Speaker 2: wait to see all of you who are going to

2686
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:13,480
Speaker 2: be there to talk to you about sports live and

2687
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:16,400
Speaker 2: also to swing the club around as well. John's up

2688
02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:18,200
Speaker 2: next to carry you home. I thank you for listening

2689
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:19,000
Speaker 2: to Quarrying Company.