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Speaker 5: I was just I've been talking about this with my friends,

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Speaker 5: It's it's just been it's been unreal to think about

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Speaker 1: Me the most honestly it may be. And I'm not

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Speaker 5: So Bo Jackson is a guy that represents that to me.

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Speaker 1: Rtt lewis my guests from the Big Ten Network, Joba House, Peel,

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Speaker 1: You know, fren Da Mendoza, we have seen what he

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Speaker 5: I think so, And I'm Caleb Downs. Obviously, it's the

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Speaker 5: You know, great example of the best in Indiana play

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Speaker 1: I want to get to quickly rep before we let

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Speaker 1: you go. Two questions about psychology. Okay, I mean you

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Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, rhet this game in reality and I know

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think that Indiana is going to be

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Speaker 1: Rhett, I appreciate the time as always. I know it's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you got it, man, Thanks for having me to

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Speaker 1: House Peel and poor Guest line. And that's the thing

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Speaker 1: And then bringing it back the Oregon game, as he

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Speaker 1: just mentioned, you beat Oregon and then I think it

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Speaker 1: was the Iowa game right after that, or I can't

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Speaker 1: remember which game it was right after that, but they

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Speaker 1: they did not slip up, right was it was? It

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Speaker 1: was Iowa? Yeah, and you know they're they're down and

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Speaker 1: you're thinking like, oh gosh, and then boom, they find

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Speaker 1: a way to win that game. They re they refocused,

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Speaker 1: they re channeled their focus. What's that?

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Speaker 2: Which game is the bigger Heisman moment? That that Iowa

442
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Speaker 2: driving the Penn State. It's got to be the Pen

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Speaker 2: state driver state because that was also on national tell

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like over the over, that

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Speaker 2: was on Every game's on national television, get that, but

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Speaker 2: that was big time network television. Yeah, and you have

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Speaker 2: Guess Johnson making that call of you know, give him

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Speaker 2: the Heisman, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: But good question for sure. But the other aspect is

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Speaker 1: if they were to and I'm not saying it's going

451
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Speaker 1: to be the case, if they were to Indiana get

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Speaker 1: blown out, in this game. And Ohio State you heard

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Speaker 1: Graham ray Hill mentioning yesterday, you know Ohio State has

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Speaker 1: that ability. In that Penn State game, twenty one points

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Speaker 1: in five minutes just boomed. Turn it up into a

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Speaker 1: fourth gear if it gets away from Indiana. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that's going to happen, don't misquote me. But

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Speaker 1: if it does, does that psychologically knock them back now

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Speaker 1: into a gosh? Maybe the hype is right. Do you

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Speaker 1: have a PTSD over the Notre Dame game or Ohio

461
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Speaker 1: State from a year ago? I don't think so. But

462
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Speaker 1: you still have to then turn around and get set

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Speaker 1: for the college football playoff, which is right there. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned last night. I you did not shoot the ball

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Speaker 1: well in Minnesota. Minnesota has always been a tough place

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Speaker 1: to play, but it does take a win a little

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Speaker 1: bit out of the sales of what And I think

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Speaker 1: people are still super hyped about the two step on

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Speaker 1: Saturday because you have the Big Ten championship game and

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Speaker 1: then you've got Indiana Louisville beforehand. But it would have

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Speaker 1: meant a little more, admittedly if Indiana was still unbeaten.

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, they fall last night and this is what

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Speaker 1: happens when you have teams that are so dynamic in

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Speaker 1: terms of quick barrage shooting. And we've talked about Indiana's offense,

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Speaker 1: their ability to come down get a quick three if

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Speaker 1: it's not there, then immediately back up and move the

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Speaker 1: ball around with very good spacing and ball movement. But

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Speaker 1: when you are reliant on outside shooting primarily as part

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Speaker 1: of your offense, you're just gonna have nights where it

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Speaker 1: becomes contagious where the ball didn't drop and we saw

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Speaker 1: it last night. Tucker Devez did not shoot the ball well,

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Speaker 1: Wilkerson did not shoot the ball well. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you force Minnesota into sixteen turnovers and you get twenty

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Speaker 1: two points off turnovers and you still lose, that shows

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Speaker 1: that offensively in your sets you were not efficient. And

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened last night. Look, I think this

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Speaker 1: Indiana team is going to be fine, but there are

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Speaker 1: going to be not and that's not gonna be the

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Speaker 1: first one. There's gonna be another one where we talk

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Speaker 1: about it and we're like, man, what happened last night

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Speaker 1: in Rutgers or whatever it might be, Because that's the

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Speaker 1: reality of that style of play and reliance on it.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, from the Pacers last night, I

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Speaker 1: looked up at one point, I'm like, they're down twenty four.

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Speaker 1: It got away quickly, got away quickly. And that might

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Speaker 1: tell us as much about Denver as it does Indiana.

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Speaker 1: But usually you say twenty five games to give yourself

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Speaker 1: an idea who a team is and where a team's going.

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Speaker 1: I think we now have a pretty good idea what

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Speaker 1: this year is going to look like overall in totality

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Speaker 1: for Indiana. So meaning the Pacers, So where do they

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Speaker 1: go from there? Tony east Side talking about exactly that.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to Tony east Eddie, if you could

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Speaker 1: please the breaking new sounder. This just Jen, I'm actually

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Speaker 1: reading this from our friends at WTCHR. The Marian University

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Speaker 1: Knights are ending their season just two days before a

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Speaker 1: playoff game against Kaiser University on Thursday, December fourth, that

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Speaker 1: would be today, The university said, and academically, an eligible

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Speaker 1: student athlete had played in three games for the team.

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Speaker 1: The Naia withdrew the program from the Football Championship Series

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Speaker 1: over the Discovery quote. We sincerely apologize to Kaiser University.

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Speaker 1: The Naia are student athletes and the Marian community that

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Speaker 1: we cannot continue our season, said Steve Downing, Marion's director

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Speaker 1: of athletics, of course, the former Indiana basketball star. This

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Speaker 1: is a disappointing outcome for everyone involved. We regret the

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Speaker 1: disruption it causes and are taking immediate steps to address

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Speaker 1: the root causes. End quote. So Marion, who had won

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Speaker 1: and of course coach Karris joined us to preview that

519
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Speaker 1: game last week in their college football playoff, now terminating

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Speaker 1: their season and their quest for a national championship will

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Speaker 1: not continue, all right, joining us now to talk about

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Speaker 1: what happened last night at gamebridge Field House, Tony east On,

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Speaker 1: the Java House, Peel and poor guest line Tony. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to begin with us as opposed to getting into

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Speaker 1: the nuances of you know, Jamal Murray, like just hit

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Speaker 1: another three, that kind of thing. When do you believe

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Speaker 1: or do you have an idea where we are in

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Speaker 1: terms of the Pacers and just kind of determining the

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Speaker 1: direction of the season in terms of personnel, pursuit of

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Speaker 1: trying to get things righted versus just accepting the reality

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Speaker 1: of long term like do you think we're there? Do

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Speaker 1: you think they are now at the point where they're like,

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Speaker 1: look it's a wash.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, look they're they're four and eighteens.

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Speaker 8: I like thee So the Pelicans in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 8: twenty two started two or three and sixteen, they made

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Speaker 8: the play in and then made the playoffs. Plan the

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Speaker 8: nineteen eighty four eighty five Cavs started two to nineteen

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Speaker 8: and they made the playoffs. So that's about all the

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Speaker 8: examples I could find of team starting this bad and

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Speaker 8: making it. That's two and what I can't do massa earlier.

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Speaker 1: The reality is they Tony, And I don't mean to

543
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Speaker 1: cut you off there, because that's my point is it

544
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Speaker 1: is very easy to look at it and say, well,

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Speaker 1: you got no Obi Toppin, you got no aaron Ne Smith,

546
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Speaker 1: You've got you know, you've you have Haliburt, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Do they are you? Do you believe that they are

548
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Speaker 1: still looking at Okay, once we get everybody back, here's

549
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Speaker 1: where we are, or is this now already at the

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Speaker 1: point of let's play out the schedule and and then

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Speaker 1: next year we regroup and we have a chance to

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Speaker 1: find out who and what we are.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, next year you don't want to be

554
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Speaker 8: doing any finding out right, you'd like to be hit

555
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Speaker 8: the ground running right away. Right, That's what I think

556
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Speaker 8: will be interesting about.

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Speaker 6: I'll I'll make this up, but you know, maybe the.

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Speaker 8: Next six weeks right till January fifteenth, when everybody can

559
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Speaker 8: be traded. Like, if you're the Pacers, you have to

560
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Speaker 8: toggle all of what you're talking about, which is finding

561
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Speaker 8: out stuff and keeping track at your record and development

562
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Speaker 8: and all that.

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Speaker 6: But how like, what are you actually learning without some

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Speaker 6: of these guys. You know, they they won a couple

565
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Speaker 6: of games last week and they beat that. They won

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Speaker 6: that Horns game and.

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Speaker 9: Jay help was really good.

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Speaker 8: And they found this lineup with McConnell and huff around,

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Speaker 8: Siakam and Matherin and them hard and that's great.

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Speaker 6: And then you know, I see a lot of comments

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Speaker 6: that are like, oh.

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Speaker 8: They won, and I get that. I get why people

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Speaker 8: want them to lose. Like I'm not saying that they're

574
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Speaker 8: dumb or anything, but it's like that should be the

575
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Speaker 8: point of this season is finding lineups like that, right

576
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Speaker 8: that do work and next year when you're trying to win,

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Speaker 8: you know, okay, even when Halberd's on the game, we

578
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Speaker 8: can turn to that combo of five or oh, look

579
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Speaker 8: like last night Ben Shephard with some spry drives and

580
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Speaker 8: good defense.

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Speaker 6: Okay, what happened in that game?

582
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Speaker 8: And what did we learn about how we can make

583
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Speaker 8: that happen more often? Hey, maybe Garrison Matthews is the

584
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Speaker 8: dude on his second ten night instead of his first one.

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Speaker 8: So it's interesting because learning all that stuff I just

586
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Speaker 8: said is easier or more valuable information if they're doing

587
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Speaker 8: it next to the other good players. Right, if you

588
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Speaker 8: learn how to use Shephard alongside Siakam, that's very important

589
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Speaker 8: for next season, But that does come at it like

590
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Speaker 8: you're playing Siakam a lot, and they shouldn't be at

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Speaker 8: his long term future.

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Speaker 6: So all that to say, for the next like four

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Speaker 6: six weeks.

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Speaker 8: I think that they should continue to just keep doing

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Speaker 8: what they've been doing, if that makes any sense, because

596
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Speaker 8: people keep saying like, oh, they got to start tanking

597
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Speaker 8: that they have four wins. You want to have a

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Speaker 8: negative win, like they're not doing anything well at.

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Speaker 6: The moment in terms of winning games.

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Speaker 8: But I do think they need to learn what works

601
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Speaker 8: and to do that, you kind of keep going with

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Speaker 8: what you have.

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Speaker 6: As you get healthier, you learn some stuff.

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Speaker 8: Maybe you'll never have top in with your top guys

605
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Speaker 8: this season because his return will be really close to

606
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Speaker 8: the trade deadline. But you know, outside of that, I

607
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Speaker 8: think at some point you have to make a clear

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Speaker 8: goal chain shift.

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Speaker 6: But the record is so poor at the moment, it's

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Speaker 6: not even really.

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Speaker 8: Costing them to keep doing what they're doing and trying

612
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Speaker 8: to learn because they're still so close to the bottom

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Speaker 8: of the standings.

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Speaker 1: Tony, I came up with a phrase the other day.

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Speaker 1: I'm very proud of this, okay, and you can use it.

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Speaker 1: It's fine, and this is not like why not Indiana,

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Speaker 1: which I trademark. You can use this phrase. So I

618
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Speaker 1: have nicknames for two kinds of players, and I think

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Speaker 1: you've heard the first one before. I've said it ten

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Speaker 1: thousand times on the radio. A twenty twenty five guy.

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Speaker 1: You've heard me mention a twenty twenty five guy, right.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what that is?

623
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Speaker 4: Yes?

624
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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, twenty points per game on twenty five win teams.

625
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Speaker 1: The newest that I've come up with, and it's applicable

626
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Speaker 1: this year are empty calorie guys. Now empty calorie guys.

627
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Speaker 1: Let me explain. Are guys like you're on the road.

628
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Speaker 1: You're on a road trip and you got to get

629
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Speaker 1: your starving. So you stop in a convenience store and

630
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Speaker 1: you just get like three bags of chips and a

631
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: beef jerkey. Those are empty calories. You got to eat something,

632
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: but the calories are offering you no long term you

633
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Speaker 1: know nutrition. Empty calorie guys are guys that are going

634
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Speaker 1: out there and they're eating up minutes and they're filling

635
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Speaker 1: a roster spot for you and they're getting you points,

636
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Speaker 1: but they really don't have any benefit towards your long

637
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: term vision. Okay, give me two guys right now. And

638
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe the pacers are figuring out and evaluating who through

639
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: this process and through ten day contracts and one year

640
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Speaker 1: deals and whatever else, you know, they're figuring out, Okay,

641
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Speaker 1: who can we keep here that becomes a thirteenth man

642
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Speaker 1: for us? And who are empty calorie guys that are

643
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Speaker 1: just eating mists? Where do you draw the line in

644
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Speaker 1: terms of the guys that we've seen and the field

645
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: that you get as to which side each is on?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the goal of that's what you're trying to

647
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Speaker 8: figure out, right, And like this will sign on the

648
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 8: hilarious to say, because it's December fourth, that's why I

649
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Speaker 8: asked her Carli last night about Garrison Matthews and Jeremiah

650
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Speaker 8: Robinson rroal, Like, I'm not even necessarily certain either of

651
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Speaker 8: them are in the short term more long term plans

652
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 8: of the Placers. But Jeremia Robinsonureld's twenty five and started

653
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 8: games for them this year. They clearly think something of him.

654
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 8: And Garrison Matthews these last two games has been like, oh,

655
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 8: I this guy can make everything sometimes, but he's twenty nine.

656
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 6: Like is he what you're describing?

657
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 8: Is he just a guy who's on this team and

658
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 8: his scoring points and they don't win at all and

659
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter, or is he actually somebody that when

660
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 8: they're good, they'd run a round right, And so it

661
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 8: sounds like such micro decisions, but to them it matters,

662
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Speaker 8: and we can call them a thirteenth man or whatever.

663
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 8: But like you know, Ben Shepperd's not playing well this year,

664
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Speaker 8: although he's had a good last five or so games.

665
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Speaker 6: He was in their playoff rotation last year.

666
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Speaker 8: That's what makes this such a hard evaluation for all

667
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 8: these guys, is like it's the worst possible way.

668
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 6: To evaluate them with how many.

669
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Speaker 8: Guys are out and how different their roles are from

670
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Speaker 8: typical seasons where we know we've seen it twice two

671
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 8: playoffs that Ben Shepherd has made thirty eight percent of

672
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 8: his threes and guards and been a fifteen to twelve

673
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 8: minute a game guy on a good winning playoff team.

674
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Speaker 6: But on this team, when he's asked.

675
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Speaker 8: To do a lot more, he probably looks a little

676
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 8: bit more like an empty.

677
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 6: Salaries guy who's turning it over much.

678
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 8: More than he has in the past, and his three

679
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 8: ball hasn't fallen really at all this year, so it's

680
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 8: like for him, it's probably super frustrating, and if you're

681
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 8: a fan, you're thinking, why is this guy playing well?

682
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 6: It's like, because he's.

683
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 8: Way better when the team is better, right, He just

684
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 8: the things he provides naturally fit better on a good team,

685
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 8: which is why it's hard to know what is the

686
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 8: line of demarcation for empty calories and why they're so

687
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 8: you know, like focused on development and making guys get

688
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 8: better at lots of skills this season if they can,

689
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Speaker 8: because they need to figure that out in any way

690
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 8: that they actually can, which is again why I think

691
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 8: that they should keep trying to play their better players

692
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Speaker 8: for at least some more amount of time, like real

693
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Speaker 8: minutes and try to push for something serious.

694
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Speaker 6: But you know, the swath of.

695
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Speaker 8: Guys who you know, everybody knows who is like real

696
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 8: on this team.

697
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Speaker 6: Like if you were in the play af rotation last year, yeah,

698
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 6: got it, but you.

699
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Speaker 8: Know this Walker, Furfee, Robinson, Earl Matthews quartet, plus their centers.

700
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Speaker 8: I mean, Jay Huff's been good of late, although he

701
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 8: struggled last night. Isadd Jackson had a Nightmares matchup. All

702
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Speaker 8: those guys have shown something for the Pacers before and

703
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 8: except for Huff, you know, and in most cases for

704
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 8: some of those guys in the postseason, you know what

705
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 8: they are kind of all jockeying, I think to be

706
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Speaker 8: the guys eight through twelve on.

707
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Speaker 6: The next Pacers team. And so they're kind of.

708
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Speaker 8: The guys to keep an eye on when it comes

709
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 8: to that, are they scoring a lot right now and

710
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 8: showing you something more because the Pacers are bad, or

711
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 8: are they doing something more because they're actually showing improvement

712
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 8: that could land them a key role on the next

713
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Speaker 8: team that we've seen in you know, in Jackson's case

714
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 8: and Shepherd's case a little bit in Rokers case. In

715
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 8: the past, Matthews has played on some playoff teams, right

716
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 8: that they can.

717
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 6: Do or is this just a reality of the situation.

718
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Speaker 8: It's really hard to find what that answer is on

719
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Speaker 8: this team because everybody's role is so different than what

720
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Speaker 8: it was or is when this team is supposed to

721
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Speaker 8: be good.

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Speaker 1: Tony the guy that to me has been enigmatic because

723
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: I feel like you are still trying to and I

724
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: mean you, Tony, I'm saying we in Populace. We're trying

725
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: to figure out if Jaris Walker can either be benefit

726
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: to Indiana in terms of bringing something on the floor

727
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: or be benefit to Indiana because he's intriguing enough that

728
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: somebody will trade for him. And I feel like he

729
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: has yet to break through and cement either where do

730
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: you see him in terms of what his value is

731
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: or will be?

732
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, what's I don't remember what movie or the thing

733
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 8: is from?

734
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 6: But what's the just one?

735
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 8: You think you're out? They pulled me back in right?

736
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 8: Whatever that's from? Like, he was awesome a couple weeks ago.

737
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 8: He had that amazing game against Detroit, followed up with

738
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 8: a good shooting game, has had some really nice rebounding

739
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 8: games of late.

740
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 6: You know, last night it felt quiet.

741
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 8: I walked away like I didn't really feel like I

742
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 8: felt Jaris Walker's impact as much. Need eleven points and

743
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 8: three boards in twenty one minutes and made four of

744
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 8: a seven shots. Like that's a good night, right, That's

745
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 8: a quality performance from a young player. It's not like,

746
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 8: you know, oh my gosh, this this guy's gonna be awesome.

747
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 8: But he also had some real stinkers, right, no doubt

748
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 8: over ten two for nine to one for eight. That

749
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 8: was three games in a row for him to end

750
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 8: that road trip where the Pacers were just awful. Right,

751
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 8: So it's really been and this is true a lot

752
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 8: of young players, he's just been really inconsistent, and that

753
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 8: is the hopeful next step for the Pacers and determining,

754
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 8: excuse me, what his role could be for them if

755
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 8: if he is playing for them when they're you know,

756
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 8: trying to win next year.

757
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 6: Is like how can they get to be more consistent?

758
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 6: Because this happened last year too.

759
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 8: I just stolen him in late December of last season,

760
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 8: and he even talked about like, yeah, this season has

761
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 8: been up and down for me, And I've referenced that

762
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 8: a million times because he said it and like he

763
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 8: knew he was being inconsistent.

764
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 6: I think he felt that way about.

765
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Speaker 8: This season too, and then from I don't know, mid

766
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 8: January onwards, his role was a little different and smaller,

767
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 8: but he was playing every night and playing largely pretty

768
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 8: well when he was playing in the playoffs until he

769
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 8: got hurt in.

770
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Speaker 6: Game six against the Knicks.

771
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 8: So they do have like a three and a half

772
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 8: month safle of him playing consistent basketball for them.

773
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 6: Last year, But this year, when he's been asked to.

774
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 8: Do more, it's been like it's not even been a

775
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 8: good game in a bad game, it's been an awesome

776
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 8: game and just like an atrocious, awful, holy cow, what's

777
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 8: going on kind of game.

778
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 6: And that's scary. That's really hard to evaluate. You have

779
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 6: no idea what the floor or stealing of that kind

780
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 6: of player is.

781
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 8: It's hard to make decisions based on what they could

782
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 8: be in a more stable role when they can't get

783
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 8: a stable role for good reason and due to injury

784
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 8: on your current team.

785
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: So I think they're still.

786
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 8: Figuring out with him, But I certainly thought he might

787
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 8: look a little better this season in general or on balance,

788
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 8: that he might at least show, you know, three out

789
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 8: of five games or four out of five games, you're

790
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 8: going nice, Okay, he's he looks a little more forcefull

791
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 8: or you know, focused, or his passing looks sharp or whatever.

792
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 8: He still has one turnover a game where he just

793
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 8: throws an atrocious pass even though he made a good read.

794
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 8: So he's got a lot to clean up, even though

795
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 8: he clearly has a solid base of skills. And that's

796
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 8: for them to figure out by February, right, because you know,

797
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 8: who knows what his value will be if he goes

798
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 8: into year four and doesn't show a ton of pop. Besides,

799
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 8: just like a bench level wing who's on a somewhat

800
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 8: sizeable salary and his rookie deal, he obviously has a

801
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 8: lot of potential, right he can kind of shoot, he's

802
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 8: got huge defensive size, but you have to kind of

803
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 8: put it all together for like ten fifteen games in

804
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 8: a row, and so it's really hard to pin down

805
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 8: his actual value would even be.

806
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: So Jeris Walker is Michael Corleone from the Godfather. That's

807
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: what That's what we figured out in this right, Tony,

808
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: should I have just.

809
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 6: Said that instead of talking for two and a half

810
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 6: minutes that No.

811
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's great, Tony East at Tony or East

812
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: by the way on the ex post Twitter. Finally, Tony,

813
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: did you and I don't know if you went? Did

814
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: you get a I was? I was surprised, like I'm

815
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: leaving the game the other night, I can't remember which

816
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: game it was, and I turned around and I'm like,

817
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: is that all a depot sitting there behind, like wearing

818
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: a hoodie?

819
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 9: Like?

820
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: And I realized I knew that he was in town

821
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: for you know, the Herd in the the g League

822
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: game against the Boom. Did you happen to see him play?

823
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 6: I did not get to go.

824
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 8: I had four straight days of hosting family for Thanksgiving,

825
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 8: which was lovely but made it impossible to leave to

826
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 8: go watch Tailor Peter in Victorladipo playing the Boom game.

827
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: You've got four straight days of family, that's impressive.

828
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 8: We hosted people so uh and they all front were

829
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 8: from out of state, and then the last day two

830
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 8: others who weren't here originally were passing through from somewhere else.

831
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 8: So we were we were in charge of things. And

832
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 8: an update for you personally, we got another new kitten

833
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 8: and we're dogs sitting for my wife's parents right now.

834
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: So our house was standing the new kittens. New kitten's

835
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: name would be.

836
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 4: Manny.

837
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 6: His name is Manny.

838
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Speaker 2: We have and Manny Winston and Manny.

839
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 6: Yes.

840
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 8: But anyway, because of all that happened.

841
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: At the same time, so we had six.

842
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 8: People here and two extra pets.

843
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 6: A month ago none of them were here and no, no, no,

844
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 6: he is not okay.

845
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: So some things to work out what you're getting at.

846
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: You're still you're still trying to figure out who are

847
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: the empty calorie kittens and who's yeah, okay, yeah.

848
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 8: I want them to be empty calory kittens for like

849
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 8: two freaking seconds. But that that does not happened to

850
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 8: all yet.

851
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 6: So I'm doing my best.

852
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: Tony, we appreciate the time as always, Tony East joining us,

853
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: Java House, Peel and poor guests. I appreciate it. Man.

854
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm very stressed about the lousier week.

855
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: So glad I got.

856
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 8: Said not think about that for a couple of minutes.

857
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 6: Thanks for having.

858
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: Meen you what. It is stressful and I do feel Listen,

859
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: there is a group of folks that I owe an

860
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: apology towards. It's not often, it's not often that I

861
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: sit here before you on these radio airwaves and I

862
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: have that kind of humility of saying I owe you

863
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: an apology. But there are those of you listening that

864
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: fall into that category, and I will do that sort

865
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: of a miacoplanxt. We have Big Ten fan Fest tickets

866
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: to give away. This gets underway tomorrow out at the

867
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: Indiana Convention Center. This is all part of the celebration

868
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: of the Big Ten Football Championship Game. And it's not

869
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: necessarily centric to if that's the right word, Indiana and

870
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: Ohio State. It really is a celebration of the Big

871
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: Ten in general, the history of the Big Ten, the

872
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: the schools of the Big Ten, the football of the

873
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: Big Ten, the trophies that have been one of the

874
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: Big Ten, the Heisman's, all of it really is a

875
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: super cool event. It's a great way to soak in

876
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: everything that is going with the fact that the Big

877
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Ten Championship Game is here in Indianapolis, and we will

878
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: give those tickets away in just a second. Before we

879
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: do so, I will say this simply as my apology,

880
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: if you will, I would be and I understand it,

881
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: and I'm going to apologize for it. Purdue is a

882
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: victim of their own success to an extent, and I

883
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: mean that as the ultimate compliment to Purdue basketball, Perdue basketball,

884
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: and what they are doing and what they have done

885
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: for the last handful of years is truly remarkable, especially

886
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: in today's era and climate of college basketball, to have

887
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: a team that has conference or national Player of the

888
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: Year candidates that have been there for multiple years and

889
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: are coming back and buying in and all in on

890
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: the team aspect of accomplishment and accolade and not worried

891
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: about the individual stuff and not chasing the bigger money

892
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: elsewhere and not going for bigger roles and getting guys

893
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: that understand where they are and who they are and

894
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: what they are and what Matt Painter wants out of

895
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: That is something that everybody that's a fan of college

896
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: basketball nationwide should be rewarding, talking about celebrating on the

897
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: regular basis and tipping their cap towards because it represents

898
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: everything in all areas that you would want for young people,

899
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: for a business, whatever it might be. The model of

900
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: the way Purdue basketball does it is truly admirable. And

901
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: they are so good, they play so well, they are

902
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: so cohesive, and they are so admirable that we should

903
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: be talking about it all the time. But we have

904
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: become accustomed to it. We are almost spoiled by the

905
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: consistency and the consistent greatness that Purdue is putting out

906
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: that it's just like background noise of like, oh yeah,

907
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: and by the way, Purdue happens to be right number one.

908
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, by the way, Braden Smith happens to be

909
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: a front runner for college player there. Oh yeah, by

910
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: the way, Trey Coop and Rin continues to play at

911
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: a high level, especially now that like Oscar cluff As

912
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: they're rebounding everything, or Jacobson's getting a block shot or

913
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Oh yeah, Fletcher Lawyer just had

914
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: another three. Oh yeah, Harris is coming off the bench

915
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: and hitting threes for them. I mean, we should be

916
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: talking about that with much more consistency. Except for that,

917
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: because they are so good and have done this now

918
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: for a while and just continue to reload the same

919
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: principles that allow them to stay at the same level

920
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: of play. It's almost like we've just become spoiled by

921
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: it of it being expected, so it's almost redundant to

922
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: talk about it. But I do feel for fans of

923
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: Purdue because here they are with the best team in

924
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: college basketball, and everything I just talked about, and yet

925
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: locally speaking, most sports conversation is centered around Kurt Signetti

926
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: and what that football team for Indiana is doing. And

927
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: then parlayed in with the fact that Indiana has a

928
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 1: new basketball coach that we're still trying to figure out

929
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: what that style is going to be, and therefore IU

930
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: is dominating the conversation when Purdue is the one dominating

931
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: the results. And I understand and respect as a Purdue

932
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: fan why that would be. That would get old, Eddie.

933
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: We are going to give away the Big Big Ten

934
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 1: fan Fest tickets. We have how many to give away

935
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: and we're doing it and what method? So we have

936
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: three four packs to give away. And I've got another

937
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: trivia question for you, Jake Okay, uh So, last year

938
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks heated Penn State in the Big Ten

939
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: Championship game. They were the first team that was not

940
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: Ohio State or Michigan to win the Big Ten championship

941
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen. Name the team that won the Big

942
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: Ten championship in twenty sixteen, Okay, the twenty sixteen Big

943
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: Ten title winner. This is the last non Michigan, Ohio State,

944
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: Oregon winner of the Big Ten title game, right, yes,

945
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: all right? Uh, and they're gonna do that via phone

946
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: or text.

947
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: Three one seven, two, three, nine, ten seventy is the

948
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 2: text line number.

949
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: Text your guests, text it to Eddie, and if you

950
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: are correct, you're on your way. Eddie. I'm curious because

951
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: I can tell when you're trying to curry favor that

952
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: there are a couple of songs that you always play

953
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: because you know that they are amongst my favorite. I'd

954
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: like to know what the others are. But before we

955
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: get to that, do we have a correct answer? Yes?

956
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: We had plenty of correct and in correc what was

957
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 2: the most common incorrect guess?

958
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Wisconsin? I would think Wisconsin or Michigan state would be

959
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: the answer that most people would immediately think first. But

960
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: the last non Ohio State, Michigan or Oregon Big Ten

961
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: Championship game winner was.

962
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: The Penn State Nitney Lyons.

963
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: And that means who is on their way?

964
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: So our buddy Dennis Michealis, David Stevens, and then one

965
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: that needs to reply so that I can figure out

966
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: who their name is?

967
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: What their name is? Okay, so how about this? What

968
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: are the first two numbers of their phone number? I'm

969
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. No, it's not gonna give away

970
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: the phone. What's the first two numbers of the phone number?

971
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: Three to one? Okay, not the area code, the phone

972
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: number itself, three one, okay, if your phone number, if

973
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: you're the one that called in or texted in with

974
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: Penn state as three to one, then you are. You

975
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: need to let Eddie know who you are. Okay. What

976
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: songs do you most frequently play that you know are

977
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: my favorite and that I will immediately say, you know,

978
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: I love this song. The verb yep, there are three

979
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: that come to mind. Dexy's Midnight Runners, Come On Eileen

980
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: is one, the verb bittersweet Semphony is two, and there's

981
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: a third. Every time you play it, I make mention

982
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: of it. Anything Oasis, well, yes, that goes without saying.

983
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: But the third would be melt with you by modern English. Yeah,

984
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: every time you play that, I make mention of it

985
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: or laying down under that's a great song. I always

986
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: say that that's my favorite song of all time. The

987
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: Cults are back on the practice field, and Kevin Bowen is,

988
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: of course our guy on the scene over there reporting

989
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: the following that appear to be practicing today. Now we

990
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: have seen in the past there is precedent. The word

991
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: I always use of players that will practice on Thursday

992
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: or be out on Thursday, and then the opposite happens

993
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: on game day. Or a guy practices and you go, oh,

994
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: he's good to go, and then suddenly he shows up

995
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: on the injury report is out that has happened, or

996
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: vice versa. A guy that returns to the practice field

997
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, good, everything looks good to go,

998
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: and then they are out on game you know, whichever

999
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: way the opposite of what I just said, here are

1000
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: those that are on it appears the field to practice

1001
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: today for the Colts, Kenny Moore, who has been dinged

1002
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: up with an ankle injury, he is out there going.

1003
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: Taekwon lewis also an ankle and Josh Downs Downs has

1004
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: he has been monitored for hip and knee injuries, and

1005
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: Josh Downs is continuing to be an increasingly important part

1006
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: of their offense, notably because and I think when you

1007
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: look at the game against Houston, one of the under

1008
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: rated aspects of what didn't take place, well, one of

1009
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: the things that's easy to overlook that you kind of

1010
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: forget about. We knew going into that game of the

1011
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: injury to Daniel Jones, and there was so much immediate

1012
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: scrutiny of, Okay, how's he going to look? How mobile

1013
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: is he going to be, how is he going to

1014
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: be able to move if the pocket breaks down, et cetera.

1015
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: And the answer to all of those things were not

1016
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: very good. I mean, he at no fault of Daniel

1017
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: Jones or no knock on Daniel Jones. I guess I

1018
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: should say, you know, when Ralph Reef came on with

1019
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: us on Monday, I thought he did an outstanding job

1020
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: of explaining. And I am not a doctor, I'm not

1021
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: a trainer. My only knowledge of anything medical comes from

1022
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: like things that I've undergone personally, and that does not

1023
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: involve anything really with my legs. By the way, when

1024
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: it comes to things medically, reminder, Sunday noon until two

1025
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: we Gougman House brewing over on the near west side

1026
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: off the sixteenth Street with Franciscan Health and our November

1027
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 1: celebration of Men's Health Fare. All of your questions screenings,

1028
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: whether it be your blood pressure, your blood sugar, all

1029
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: of that, uh, doctors people on staff from Franciscan to

1030
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: answer questions for men's health obviously the women welcome to

1031
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: come as well. Just a healthfare in general, and a

1032
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: chance to watch a little of the Colts game, enjoy

1033
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: just the fellowship the company of everybody noon until two

1034
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday. But what Ralph Reef explained when

1035
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: it comes to Daniel Jones leg was the following. The

1036
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: tibula is the shin bone. That's the big one. You

1037
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: play soccer, you wear shin guards. Guess what they're protecting

1038
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: your tibula the way he explained it, and I thought

1039
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: Ralph was outstanding the way he explained it this way,

1040
00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: the fibula is like the sidecar that attaches onto it.

1041
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: It's like if ther shin is the motorcycle, then the

1042
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: little sidecar is the fibula. It is a sidebone. And

1043
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: the way Ralph was explaining it was you can get

1044
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: a small fracture a chip in that fibula, and while

1045
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: it will not increase in likelihood of further damage to

1046
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: the bone itself, it can create a friction or you know,

1047
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: an offset of some of the ligaments and tendons around

1048
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: it that are very very painful. And as he was

1049
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: explaining it, while Ralph doesn't specifically work on Daniel Jones

1050
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: as somebody who has been around athletic training for forty years,

1051
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: Ralph you know, knows and has an understanding of the

1052
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: symptoms and things like that with a player of a

1053
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: certain injury. And he was saying that Daniel Jones planting

1054
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: his foot or turning his foot or having to push

1055
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: off his foot and his lower leg, while there is

1056
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: likely not the possibility that anything is going to become

1057
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: a more severe injury for him, it doesn't mean that

1058
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: you don't naturally have an inability to one hundred percent

1059
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: exert because your body naturally from that pain holds itself

1060
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: up and you just don't get total range of motion.

1061
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: So if Daniel Jones, if that's the case, and I

1062
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: thought in the Houston game, we immediately saw it that

1063
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: there were plays that were breaking down. And for me,

1064
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: it was right out of the on the very first drive,

1065
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: I saw it a play that was breaking down where

1066
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: the Daniel Jones that has played the level that he

1067
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: was playing when they got out to a seven and

1068
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: one start, and the Daniel Jones that was being discussed

1069
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: as wow, like is this guy playing at an MVP

1070
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: level and he is answering every single request that Shane

1071
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Stikeen is making of him, of understanding reads and going

1072
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 1: through his progressions and feeling comfortable in the pocket because

1073
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: he knows that if all hell breaks loose, he can

1074
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: use his wheels to get out and to get around

1075
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: the edge and to pick up six, seven, eight yards.

1076
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: All of those things were taken away. You could tell

1077
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: immediately where he knew, Okay, I don't have that option

1078
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: when the heat's coming on me. I got to get

1079
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: out of the house immediately because I just I don't

1080
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: have any way to extend plays and even go through

1081
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: all of my reads because I've got to make a

1082
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 1: quick decision to get out of this. And you could

1083
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: see that one of the underappreciated aspects of that, and

1084
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: I think overlooked. Going into that game against Houston, what

1085
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: we knew was that Tyler Warren was dealing with an

1086
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: illness miss some practice time, but was not one hundred percent.

1087
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: And I know he was out there playing and I

1088
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: don't know what his illness was. I assume he had

1089
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 1: like a flu like symptoms or whatever else. But you naturally,

1090
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: when you're not feeling up, you can imagine, you know,

1091
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: when you get that, and this time of year you

1092
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: certainly get it a lot. But when you get that

1093
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: cold or that achy feeling where just everything you touch

1094
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: your body feels freezing and you just feel like you're

1095
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: made of porcelain and like everything you touch you're just

1096
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: it reverberates through your entire body. So imagine feeling that

1097
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: way even on a Thursday and then going out Sunday

1098
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: and playing in a not contact but collision sport and

1099
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren I know, ironically enough, on the fourth and

1100
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: one where they tried to do the direct step to

1101
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, they were doing that because they knew that

1102
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: Jones's mobility was compromised. But Warren I think was also compromised,

1103
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: and so he wasn't able necessarily to just get in

1104
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: those situations where he is your bail. And for Daniel Jones,

1105
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have time to go through all of

1106
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: his reads now, if he knows that when the heat's

1107
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: coming and the pockets can collapsing around him, that he

1108
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have the tuck and go ability, then he needs

1109
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: to know that there is somebody there where he can

1110
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: immediately get out of a play and just find somebody

1111
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: that is floating open out there to bail him out.

1112
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: And that guy is Josh Downs. Josh Downs is a

1113
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: very important He's an important part of their offense in general,

1114
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: but he's even more important now. Without Ashton Dula, without

1115
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: Ady Mitchell, you are shrinking the level of options that

1116
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: are out there in general. But he is your your

1117
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: bailout emergency guy. You know, Eddie, do you remember the

1118
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: term that I use, the copier guy? You know what

1119
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: a copier guy is? This is another quariism. Yeah, give me,

1120
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: give me a line and industry, a company, a business

1121
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: you know off the top of your head, A company

1122
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: that does what.

1123
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: A company that does I don't know. Printing, okay, a

1124
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: printing company.

1125
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: Okay. So if you're a printing company, you are a

1126
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: Garrison printing company and you got fifty five employees. Every company,

1127
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: including Garrison Printing needs a copier guy. Well, Jake, what

1128
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: is a copier guy? Best way to explain it? Every

1129
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: company has that one guy or gal in the building

1130
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: that when there are three people sitting around the copier

1131
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: because it's on the blink, it's frozen up. Nobody can

1132
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: figure out why we just added tone, or does this

1133
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: thing that paper. Why is it beeping at me? There's

1134
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: always that guy in the building that you go, you

1135
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: know what, has anybody seen Frank? Where's Frank? Frank knows

1136
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: how to fix that stuff. This building's copier guy is

1137
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: Scotti Johnston. He just knows. He knows where everybody's buried,

1138
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: he knows where everything is. He knows how to replace everything.

1139
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: He knows how to fix everything anything goes wrong. That's

1140
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: the guy you call. You just know he's going to

1141
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: know how to fix it. Josh Downs, to an extent,

1142
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: is that guy right now for the Colts offense. He's

1143
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: the guy that you just know is going to bail

1144
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: you out. Now, the player that I think the Colts

1145
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 1: need to kind of get going here a little bit, Eddie,

1146
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: I'll ask you which player on the Colts offense right

1147
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: now is the one that it has not been injury

1148
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: just for whatever reason, it seems like you say to yourself,

1149
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: although I say this made a bit, did make a

1150
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: big play recently, but also was part of what should

1151
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: have been a bigger play. Wasn't necessarily his fault didn't deliver.

1152
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: But a guy that going into the year you thought

1153
00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: was going to be a much more consistent, big stat

1154
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: guy than he's been anybody jump out of you.

1155
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: I would still go with Josh Downs really in this category. Yes,

1156
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the last two weeks specifically,

1157
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: he's got four of the twelve targets he's had. He

1158
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: had two drops against Houston, he had a there was

1159
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: a ball that he should have caught against Kansas City

1160
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: but he didn't get his head around in time to

1161
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: catch it.

1162
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: And he had a drive. He had one drive in

1163
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: that game though, where he was the entire drive right.

1164
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, his two catchers were on that one drive, and

1165
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: then he had another catch that got called back because

1166
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: of the holding, and then the very next play was

1167
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: to Alec Pierce pass interference penalty that he drew that

1168
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: resulted in the first down. But it just it just

1169
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like Josh Downs has been as impactful. He's

1170
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: got three hundred and seventy yards this year on forty

1171
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: catches and three touchdowns. Just doesn't feel like he's been

1172
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: a consistent figure in their offense.

1173
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: I'll go with Michael Pittman Jr.

1174
00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: Really.

1175
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: Look, he's a great player, but Alec Peerce is now

1176
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: I think we can safely Kevin just had an article

1177
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: about this, and I agree with Kevin on this. Alec

1178
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 1: Pierce has now ascended as the Colts kind of number

1179
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: one wide receiver without question. Yeah, because he is. And

1180
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: Pittman Jr. I mean, I love him because he has

1181
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: been the definition of you know, tough over the middle,

1182
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: playing hurt answering the bell. I mean, he's a guy

1183
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: that is no doubt about it. I think last year,

1184
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: in particular, he was playing he was playing hurt last

1185
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: year and with the back and you could see it,

1186
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: but he but he fought through it. And you know,

1187
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: you look back now and you go, Okay. I mean,

1188
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: it really is impressive what he was able to do

1189
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: considering I think he was really banged up. But and

1190
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a bad player this year at all,

1191
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: but I think that we anticipated Okay, now, a healthy

1192
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman means he is their number one guy. And

1193
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: I think Pierce says and maybe that says more about

1194
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: Pierce than it does Pittman, but it feels like Pittman,

1195
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm look at his game, look up his game.

1196
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: Log yep, looking at it right now.

1197
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: Okay, give me what's the most what's the highest number

1198
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: of receptions he's had in the game this year.

1199
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: Nine's that's solid, nine for one fifteen, I mean huge obviously, right, Okay,

1200
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: Outside of that, give me the rest of his games.

1201
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: That was against Pittsburgh, he had eight for ninety five

1202
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: in a touchdown, against Tennessee. He had seven for fifty

1203
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: eight in a touchdown against the Chargers.

1204
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: Miami.

1205
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: Week one, six for eighty in a touchdown, six for

1206
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: seventy three in a touchdown against Tennessee. And another game

1207
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: five for forty one in a touchdown against the Rams,

1208
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: five for thirty nine in the touchdown against Vegas.

1209
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: And that's yeah. I mean, when you read it off

1210
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: that way, you go, Okay, that's pretty solid, right. I mean,

1211
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: I just I think going into the year, I thought

1212
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: of him more as the consistent eight to nine to

1213
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: ten catches per game guy, and that's been his ceiling.

1214
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Now, what are Pierce's numbers

1215
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: is what is Pierce's high game in terms of receptions.

1216
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: I know he has surpassed him in yardage, but what

1217
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: about and you get more chunk plays out of Pierce?

1218
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: I get it.

1219
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: In that same game against Pittsburgh, Pierce had a big

1220
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 2: game as well, six for one fifteen no touchdown. But

1221
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at just the consistency of

1222
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: Pierce four for sixty eight, four for sixty seven, Arizona

1223
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: two for forty eight, and then you got the Chargers

1224
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: five for ninety eight, Atlanta four for eighty four in

1225
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: a score see you get more big play out of Pierce, right,

1226
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 2: and then Houston four for seventy eight in a touchdown.

1227
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: So I guess Pittman is doing what it is that

1228
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: you would expect though in the fact that he is more.

1229
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: But I will agree with you that the last couple

1230
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: of weeks there just doesn't seem to be the level

1231
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 2: of separation now I think for Pittman, and we've seen

1232
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: that historically in his career. Though, Jake is that the Colts,

1233
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, the passing gam has struggled the last couple

1234
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: of years because of the fact that they haven't had

1235
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that get open with you know,

1236
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: the release off the line of scrimmage. A lot of

1237
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: it is scheme and getting the ball out quickly, and

1238
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: notably with Pittman, there's just not a lot of room lately.

1239
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 2: He's getting hit as he's trying to make the catcher.

1240
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: He's just simply not open.

1241
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is what you just

1242
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: said there at the end, he's simply not open. I

1243
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: think some of it is now you are getting a

1244
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: shorter amount of time for guys to get open because

1245
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: you don't have the extension of play clock like you

1246
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: had before because of the injury and the other unfortunate

1247
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: thing that comes into play with all of that is

1248
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: and I know that that I'm apparently alone on this island.

1249
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: We talked to Chap about it. I mean, we talked

1250
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: to several about this, but I still want I can't

1251
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: help but wonder maybe we're not there yet. But and

1252
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about in game totality. I'm talking about

1253
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: in limited spots or bursts. But if there are times

1254
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: where it is very clear that teams are aggressively getting

1255
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: at Daniel Jones and his mobility is not there are

1256
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: those moments or are there healthy Anthony Richardson would have

1257
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: been utilized at times too offset that I'm not saying

1258
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: quarterback by committee by any stretch, but would we have

1259
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: seen him The fourth and one is a prime example.

1260
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: Are there times where Richardson would have found his way

1261
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: back onto the field and been utilized in spot situations.

1262
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: I personally think that's something that would have been explored.

1263
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: Now I know that that, you know, those that we

1264
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: talked about said no, it's pretty clear that that's they've

1265
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: moved on from that, and I do think they've moved

1266
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: on from him. But it still feels like if he

1267
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: has was healthy, And I know you feel bad for

1268
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson because that injury, you know, it appears is

1269
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: in fact a serious injury that still there doesn't appear

1270
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: to be any sort of a clear timeline on return.

1271
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: But if that had never happened, and I realized it

1272
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: did so, it's kind of a point, but I am

1273
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: still it leaves me wondering the what if question in

1274
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: a continued long list of what ifs when it comes

1275
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: to Anthony Richardson. I also am curious about this, by

1276
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: the way, and this is what makes me weird. I realize, Okay,

1277
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: we now have to call him Anthony Richardson senior, right, yes,

1278
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: which I yes, I get, except for that the junior.

1279
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: It's not like he's playing and you need to differentiate, right,

1280
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: Does that make sense what I'm saying?

1281
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,919
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like Jake, if you were Jake Querry senior,

1282
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't you want to be known as Jakequerry senior? But

1283
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: I think of it as I guess you are a

1284
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: senior anyway, That's right, the gray hair shows it. What

1285
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: I'm getting at, is I.

1286
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: Guess. I just I mean, how many players are out there?

1287
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: I would imagine there are a lot of players in

1288
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: the NFL who have a child that has the same name.

1289
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: Right, Well, Rodney Thomas is Rodney Thomas the second.

1290
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: Do you know the difference between the second and junior?

1291
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: So this is a very fascinating thing, but explain it. Yeah,

1292
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: I believe I'm correct in this. Typically when you hear

1293
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Speaker 1: the second versus junior, junior is in direct lineage, and

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Speaker 1: the second means that you are named after someone within

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Speaker 1: the family of the same name, but it is not

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Speaker 1: necessarily a direct offspring. Correct. So in other words, in

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Speaker 1: other words, if you have a son, yep, and you

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Speaker 1: name the son after my uncle, correct, then that would

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Speaker 1: be the second now or after your dad. So now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's say let's say your dad's name is Tom. It

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Speaker 1: is is it really?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So Tom Garrison. So if you have a son

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Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm gonna name him after my dad.

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Speaker 1: Then it's Tom Garrison the second. But it's not junior

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Speaker 1: because he is not directly underneath your dad.

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Speaker 2: Which brings me to this question, why is Steph Curry

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Speaker 2: Steph Wardell Stephan Curry the second?

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Speaker 1: Because there is a what that would mean?

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Speaker 2: Say, father is Wardell Stephan Curry. His father is Del Curry, right,

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Speaker 2: but it's Wardell Stephan Curry.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, Okay? And so you're saying that Steph Curry is listed.

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Speaker 2: As Wardell Stephan Curry the second.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a great question. I don't know that would

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Speaker 1: seemingly that would be junior, right.

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Speaker 2: I believe Steph also named one of his kids the

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Speaker 2: same name as well.

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Speaker 1: Also the second, I'm just kidding, Okay, Junior is used

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Speaker 1: when a son has the same name as his father.

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Speaker 1: The second is used when a child is named after

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Speaker 1: a relative which is not the father.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, are we looking too much into that?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 1: Look at you? Do you happen to have the breaking newshouter.

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Speaker 8: On this.

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Speaker 1: Just in, Eddie Garrison is a name conspiracy theorist. We've

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Speaker 1: just learned that in the last few minutes. Indiana, Ohio

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Speaker 1: State Saturday, Lucas Oil Stadium, Buckeye Sided things. My buddy

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Speaker 1: Tim Mays covered the Bucks for over forty years, joins

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Speaker 1: us next when you start talking about Ohio sports and

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Speaker 1: notably Columbus Sports. One of the guys that is one

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Speaker 1: of the real good guys in the Paddock area when

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Speaker 1: it comes to IndyCar racing. He has followed the ray

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Speaker 1: Halls forever and as a result is routinely around Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: but also all of the different spots that we have

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Speaker 1: in IndyCar. But his primary gig for years with the

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Speaker 1: Columbus Dispatch. He has been covering for over forty two

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Speaker 1: years Ohio sports and notably the Ohio State football buck Eyes.

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Speaker 1: He now has the Tim May Show on fanstreamssports dot

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Speaker 1: com and he joins me now on the Java House

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Speaker 1: Peel and Poor Guest line. Tim May from Columbus, Ohio. Tim,

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Speaker 1: how are you good?

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Speaker 3: Jake? How you doing?

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Speaker 9: Man? I've always whatever, I have a question, I always

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Speaker 9: called a query show.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. See, Tim, you are one of literally

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Speaker 1: eighteen people in the world that know that querry means

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Speaker 1: a question. And I could not be more thrilled for it, right, and.

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Speaker 9: That just shows you what state the world is in

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Speaker 9: as we speak.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 1: See, this is for the those that don't know. We've

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Speaker 1: already gotten a glimpse of what conversations sound like in

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Speaker 1: press rooms when Tim and I sit and solve the

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Speaker 1: world's problems. All right, Tim, let's get to this Ohio

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Speaker 1: State in Indiana. Obviously, Ohio State is the pedigree program.

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Speaker 1: Indiana is this incredible Cinderella story that is now no

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Speaker 1: longer a Cinderella because they've gone past midnight. And oh

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Speaker 1: you so, I'm curious if you really did have to

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Speaker 1: in transparency here, what is the Ohio State fan or

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Speaker 1: just culture perception of Indiana? What is the thought here

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Speaker 1: of you know, is how serious do they take Indiana?

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Speaker 9: Nineteen eighty seven, Earl Bruce got beat in the Ohio stadium.

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Speaker 9: I think the score was I think it was thirty yep, yeah,

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Speaker 9: and Earl Bruce, in the Ohio State football coach called

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Speaker 9: it the darkest day in Ohio State history, not Ohio

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Speaker 9: State football history, Ohio State history. And then the next

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Speaker 9: year Bill Mallory did it, two years in a row,

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Speaker 9: beat Ohio State and beat him thoroughly for I'm just

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Speaker 9: throwing a little history out there. I think it was

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Speaker 9: forty one to seven or something remarkable. And uh, in

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Speaker 9: my lead in the in the Colembus Dispatch on my

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Speaker 9: story the next day was a new day is dawned

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Speaker 9: in the Big ten And.

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Speaker 6: Little I know that'd be the last.

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Speaker 9: Time Indiana would have beaten Ohio State until as we

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Speaker 9: speak right now. So it's kind of hard to it's

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Speaker 9: kind of hard to pinpoint wor Ohio State perceives of Indiana,

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Speaker 9: except I keep pointing out the people. Indiana under Kurt

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Speaker 9: Signetti has now lost two games in two seasons, and

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Speaker 9: the two losses worked to the two teams that played

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Speaker 9: for the for the national championship last year. They've gone

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Speaker 9: undefeated in this I mean, you know, Indiana's never been

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Speaker 9: at this level before in terms of winning on a

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Speaker 9: consistent day. It's much less going undefeated. So last year,

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Speaker 9: oh my goodness. This year, oh okay. Kurt Signetti at

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Speaker 9: AL know exactly what they're doing. And you know, I

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Speaker 9: said back in the late spring, early summer that my

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Speaker 9: opinion of Indiana was going to be better than it

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Speaker 9: was last year because it had gotten key portal some

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Speaker 9: key portal transferred guys, not the least of which was

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Speaker 9: Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback from California, because he was an upgrade,

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Speaker 9: you know, no offense to mister Rourke, but a definite

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Speaker 9: upgrade there. And I think everybody's seen it now. He's

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Speaker 9: depending on where you look at. He's a Heisman favorite,

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Speaker 9: one of the Heisman favorites, along with Julian saying, so

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Speaker 9: Saturday night has a lot hanging in the balance in

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Speaker 9: Lucas Oil.

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Speaker 1: Do we know, let's talk about the quarterback matchup ten?

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Speaker 1: Because this is I think you're right, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think the Heisman make him down to this game, right,

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Speaker 1: Julian saying, let's start there. He is a younger player,

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Speaker 1: he has had a phenomenal year. He has out standing

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Speaker 1: weapons around him. Do we know what kind of player

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Speaker 1: he is when they're as heat on him or they

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Speaker 1: have they adequately protected him so far this year? And

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Speaker 1: can Indiana get to him?

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean we'll have to wait and find out. Jake,

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Speaker 9: I mean, I know that's a cop out, but but

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Speaker 9: but Ohio State the offensive line? You know this an

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Speaker 9: now see the All Big Ten Offensive Award winners and

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Speaker 9: teams and didn't have one member of its offensive line

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Speaker 9: on the first team on either first team, so I

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Speaker 9: picked as a major oversight by those who voted on

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Speaker 9: the awards. But but the bottom line is we're gonna

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Speaker 9: have to find out. I mean, this offensive line is

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Speaker 9: playing at a very high level. As the game went

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Speaker 9: on on Saturday in the Big House, they took more

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Speaker 9: and more control of it, and it's it's it's kind

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Speaker 9: of been fun to watch as much like last year.

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Speaker 9: You know, Ohio State got beat by Michigan and it

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Speaker 9: was their second loss, and a lot of people gave

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Speaker 9: up on the Hostie football team. But they lost two starters,

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Speaker 9: two major starters as the season went on last year,

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Speaker 9: their center and their left tackle, both of whom were

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Speaker 9: drafted in the National Football League, and now Josh Summons

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Speaker 9: is playing first round draft pick in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: The left tackle they lost.

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Speaker 9: But the bottom line is the offensive line. In December

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Speaker 9: through January, the four games they won to win the

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Speaker 9: National Championship, it was the best offensive line in the country.

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Speaker 9: I don't think anybody would argue with that. With the

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Speaker 9: way they took care of business throughout the playoffs. This

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Speaker 9: offensive line replaced a couple of starters, but has really

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Speaker 9: grown into itself in the last couple of weeks. And

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Speaker 9: you know, everybody was poo pulling their schedule until they

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Speaker 9: played Michigan, and then they took care of Michigan in

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Speaker 9: a methodical fashion. So I think they feel pretty good

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Speaker 9: about their ability to protect the quarterback. But I keep

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Speaker 9: reminding people Indiana didn't get there on a fluke man.

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Speaker 3: This is no lark.

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Speaker 9: I mean, Indiana's gotten after people defensively as much as

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Speaker 9: they have offensively. And but you know, we'll see on

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Speaker 9: Saturday night if Ohio State's offensive line is up to

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Speaker 9: this test. I mean it's a it's a Indiana pledge

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Speaker 9: you pretty straight up gets after you to a certain extent.

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Speaker 9: But it'll be a man the man kind of battle

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Speaker 9: there in the trenches.

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Speaker 1: What about on the other side of things, Tim tim

1450
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Speaker 1: May is my guest Java house, peeling poor guest line.

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Speaker 1: When you look at Mendoza in Indiana trying to keep

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Speaker 1: him clean. This is an elite level defense for Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: For Ohio State and their defensive coverage, their strength starts where.

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Speaker 9: Starts right in the middle of the defensive line with

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Speaker 9: Caden McDonald, who was named the Big Ten Defensive Lineman

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Speaker 9: of the Year just yesterday. You know, a guy who's

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Speaker 9: really come into his own. I mean, you know, the

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Speaker 9: biggest question for us at cover a house state and

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Speaker 9: really nationally because you have to have some questions right

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Speaker 9: about an elite program, was what they were going to do.

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Speaker 9: They were placing eight starters on the defense and all

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Speaker 9: four of the defensive line starters were included in that,

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Speaker 9: and how are they.

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Speaker 3: Going to rise to that challenge?

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Speaker 9: And they really got nobody in the from the interior

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Speaker 9: for the interior defensive line. They got nobody in the

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Speaker 9: transfer portal. So the depth was going to have to

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Speaker 9: come from within. And you know, one of the one

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Speaker 9: of the great things about covering Ohio State over the

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Speaker 9: years is watching guys bubble up, who wait their turn

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Speaker 9: and bubble up, and uh, you know, we've seen that

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Speaker 9: on the defensive front. Caden McDonald's a great example of that.

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Speaker 9: But almost everybody, everybody who's playing this year played a

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Speaker 9: lot last year, especially that in that playoff run. But

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Speaker 9: Caden McDonald and now you've got Taiwan Malone who.

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Speaker 3: Has come on.

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Speaker 9: Edric Houston was a five star freshman a year ago.

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Speaker 9: He kind of had a slow start to this year,

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Speaker 9: helter skelter start, but he's playing extremely well. I'm talking

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Speaker 9: about the guys on the interior. There will a guy

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Speaker 9: named Will Smith Junior. I think everybody remembers Will Smith,

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Speaker 9: the late great Will Smith, who was part of the

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Speaker 9: two thousand and two state national championship as a defensive

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Speaker 9: end of his His son is in namesake is a

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Speaker 9: tackle in the middle there who plays plays a pretty

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Speaker 9: good bit recently. And then you know they got this guy.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if people over in Indiana remember a

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Speaker 9: guy named Kayden Curry, you know from right there in

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Speaker 9: Center Grove, right down the street. You know, he played

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Speaker 9: what three straight h three straight to Indiana Indiana High

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Speaker 9: School state championship games there in Lucas Oil and I

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Speaker 9: think he won two of them. But you know, he

1493
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 9: and ken Yata Jackson waited their turn behind Jack Sawyer

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01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 9: and JT. Towey Moliwow, who returned last year because they

1495
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 9: wanted another crack at the brass ring. They got the

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Speaker 9: national championship, but they didn't beat Michigan and they didn't win.

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Speaker 9: They didn't get to play for a Big Ten championship

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Speaker 9: for the fourth straight year. Well, Caden Curry has really

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Speaker 9: come on. He and ken YadA Jackson and everybody watching

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Speaker 9: on Saturday number nine, uh Tenyada Jackson just has really

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Speaker 9: really exploded over the last many weeks. And uh so

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01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 9: they feel pretty good about that defensive front. So it

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Speaker 9: starts there. And then you've got a guy like Caleb Downs,

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Speaker 9: you know, Big ten Defensive Player of the Year, defensive

1505
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 9: back of the Year who as in essence, is a

1506
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 9: quarterback at safety, but he can play in all in

1507
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 9: almost seven positions, and it's not even that he's has

1508
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 9: kind of his own special position wherever Matt Patricia puts

1509
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 9: him or he decides to go on the defense. And

1510
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 9: you know the transfer from Alabama from a year ago

1511
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 9: who was part and partial I say defensive year ago.

1512
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 9: But the way he gets guys lined up, the way

1513
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 9: he messes with the quarterback's head before, during, and after

1514
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 9: a snap, things like that, That's that's what they have

1515
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 9: going for. I mean, they have the outline backer of

1516
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 9: the year in RVL Reese who has really come on

1517
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 9: under the Matt Patricia system, and Sonny Styles who is

1518
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 9: playing at a really high level. And Jalen Playe uh

1519
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 9: played decently in the in the National Championship run at

1520
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 9: the other safety spot, well, boy, did he have a

1521
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 9: game on Saturday at Michigan. And then their two cornerbacks

1522
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 9: played extensively last year. Jermaine Matthews is a first time

1523
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 9: full year starter, but he played. He was on the

1524
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 9: goal line stand when they when they held Texas off

1525
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 9: last year when Jack Sawyer had the big return, and

1526
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 9: uh and of course Davis and Nick but Nosen. If

1527
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 9: he could just keep from grabbing people, he may be

1528
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 9: as good a corner's years in the country. And I'm not,

1529
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 9: you know, I'm not. I don't think this is uperberly.

1530
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 9: You know how Say's got the number one defense in

1531
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 9: the country for a reason, and you know.

1532
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: And what's fascinating about this matchup is right there and

1533
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, I don't disagree with that.

1534
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: But Indy, you know, and then you got Indiana. Statistically,

1535
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: the areas in which these two teams, these two programs

1536
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: are one and two or two and one. I mean,

1537
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: it's it's remarkable the the I think these are. This

1538
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: is clearly, tim I do. I think this is clearly

1539
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 1: the two best teams in the country. The question is

1540
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: is there a gap there. Now let's get to the

1541
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 1: other side of this. I talked to Graham Rayhill about

1542
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: this earlier this week. I want your perspective. Has Ohio

1543
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: State held close to the vest their cards offensively? Have

1544
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: we seen this offensive Ohio State play on all of

1545
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,520
Speaker 1: the cylinders with which they're capable of playing.

1546
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 3: Well?

1547
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 9: I think the big question about Ohio State, you know,

1548
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 9: remember the Saint Louis Rams, the best, you know, the

1549
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 9: greatest shown turf yep, you know. The big question was

1550
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 9: whether I they could go on ice or snow or

1551
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 9: the four wheel drive kind of approach, which is what

1552
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 9: they did last week offensively against Michigan. I mean, they

1553
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 9: had a twenty plate twelve minute drive in the middle

1554
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 9: of the second half that was pretty cool, except that

1555
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 9: he just score a touchdown and end up kicking a

1556
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 9: field go with so Ryan. They didn't give it an

1557
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 9: a plus plus on the drive. But as far as

1558
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 9: eating clocket was But I think you've seen a lot

1559
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 9: of what Ohio State's capable of. But they thrown things

1560
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 9: out there of which you know, there are tangents that

1561
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 9: they where they can go from the uh, the four

1562
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 9: tight end. Look, they give you that the goal line.

1563
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 9: One of the tight ends ends up being a fullback

1564
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 9: in that a lot in an A formation, but they'll

1565
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 9: have four tight ends on the field. And you think

1566
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 9: you've seen all of those things that you have, and

1567
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 9: I mean there are other ways they can go with

1568
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 9: that formation in terms of running and throwing the ball.

1569
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:25,520
Speaker 9: That's just an example.

1570
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 3: But you know, you've.

1571
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 9: Seen Julian saying, I mean Urban Meyer the other day

1572
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 9: and he has no reason to really say this, but

1573
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 9: thinks he might be the most accurate quarterback in college

1574
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 9: football history. I mean, to watch this guy throw the ball,

1575
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 9: it's remarkable. And the wind and snow or the yeah,

1576
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 9: there was a decent breeze.

1577
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 3: Let's put it that a way.

1578
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 9: You know, in Michigan Stadium last week, the big house,

1579
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 9: so they need to shut the windows, I guess. But

1580
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 9: at the bottom mine us he uh, you know, he

1581
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 9: he completed touchdown passes to all three of his starting

1582
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 9: wide receivers, Jeremiah Smith, Carneal Tate on that deep post.

1583
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 9: Of course it broke Michigan's back, but also Brandon Ennis.

1584
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 9: They're kind of like forgotten about third wide receiver in

1585
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 9: that group.

1586
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 3: They've got all kinds of things.

1587
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: They can go to.

1588
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 9: From a throwing standpoint, like you said, if they can

1589
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 9: protect and Julian saying has shown the ability, you know,

1590
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 9: to elude pressure and do it in sort of a

1591
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 9: smooth kind of way. And he has also shown the

1592
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 9: willingness and ability to run if he has to. You know,

1593
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 9: when he came out of Carlsbad, California h two years

1594
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 9: ago and initially signed with Alabama, he was considered one

1595
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 9: of the elite dual threat quarterbacks in the country. People

1596
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 9: forget that and his high school coach. I've had him

1597
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 9: on my tim May Show several times on the like

1598
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 9: you said, fans strange sports just talking about him and

1599
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 9: how he's sort of underestimated. I mean, he's even underestimating how.

1600
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 3: Tall he is.

1601
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 9: People were thinking he was like Drew Brees height him.

1602
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 9: He's like six', one logit six', one and but he's

1603
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 9: just so smooth and sort of like unflappable and also

1604
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 9: doesn't say a whole lot that you you kind of,

1605
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 9: go how good is this? Guy And, uh he's what

1606
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 9: completing seventy eight percent of his. Passes, uh that's pretty damn.

1607
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 9: Good and he's only thrown five. Interceptions one was last

1608
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 9: week Against, michigan and then then he came back and

1609
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 9: Cut michigan's heart, out you, know with some pretty good.

1610
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 9: Passing so they feel pretty good about. That but it

1611
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 9: really helps that they've had a guy i'tly you remember this, Name,

1612
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,759
Speaker 9: jake but a guy Named Bo jackson has emerged as

1613
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 9: the number one running back for a highest relation.

1614
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: No relations no relationship To bo and no relation To

1615
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: Lamar jackson who and that's his real, name, right.

1616
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 9: Yeah well his that's his nickname Is dad gave him.

1617
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 9: BOW i can't remember what his real name, Is.

1618
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: LAMAR i think his name Is Lamar. Jackison, yeah, exactly not. Related,

1619
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm. Sorry, yeah he's either.

1620
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 9: Right you were a step and a half ahead of,

1621
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 9: me that, There.

1622
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 3: Jake that's why that's why you have this. Show, yeah

1623
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 3: but you. Know and Then.

1624
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: Isaiah where he answers HIM i mean.

1625
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 3: Really queries in those, yeah queries in the.

1626
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 9: Quandaries but, uh but Also Isaiah west and Other both

1627
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 9: these guys are, FRESHMEN i mean true freshman running, backs and,

1628
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 9: uh they really.

1629
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 3: Come on of.

1630
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 9: Late AS i like to, Say west likes to go north,

1631
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 9: south you, know and he's that kind of put the

1632
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 9: foot in the ground and go kind of. Guy Bo

1633
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 9: jackson same. Way and then C. J, donaldson the guy

1634
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 9: that got From West virginia transfer running back because he

1635
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 9: just needed kind of figure out a way to replace

1636
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 9: the power back That Quinnshawn judkins was a year. Ago,

1637
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 9: uh they thought they had the makings to Replace Travon,

1638
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 9: henderson which they, have but uh.

1639
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 7: UH.

1640
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 9: Cj donaldson comes in on really power. Situations uh and

1641
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 9: maybe pass pro. Situations But Bo jackson has gotten really

1642
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 9: good at pass pro, Too so they.

1643
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 3: Feel really good about this.

1644
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 9: Offense and that's not to mention you, Know will Keas

1645
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 9: merrick uh And Max. Claire Will Keas merrick transferred From

1646
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 9: Ohio university two years ago or for the twenty twenty four.

1647
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 9: Season Max claire of, course transferred From purdue this. Year

1648
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 9: at tight, ends both of them had huge catches in

1649
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 9: that game At michigan for, example last. Week and that's

1650
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:13,520
Speaker 9: what setch good quarterbacks.

1651
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 3: Apart.

1652
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 9: Man they know where their tight ends. Are And i've

1653
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 9: Complimented julian saying on that to his face a couple of,

1654
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 9: times because he just seems much older in terms of

1655
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 9: maturity than his years would, indicate being just A richard Freshman.

1656
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: Tim May Ohio, State Indiana saturday. Night tim's got permanent

1657
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: residence In indianapolis because he's always here covering the speedway as.

1658
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: Well and Then Ohio state's always playing big games over.

1659
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: Here next, Time, tim and we have you on study

1660
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 1: the roster a little, bit would.

1661
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 9: You, YEAH i will do, That. Jake and by the,

1662
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 9: WAY i can't wait to get my. Gifts your tip

1663
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 9: gets To Saint.

1664
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: Elmos we'll get you hooked. Up, Man we'll get you

1665
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: some of the shrimp. Cocktail. Tim by the, way The Saint.

1666
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: Elmo now if just so you, Know tim and for

1667
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 1: the rest of, You tim knows this, probably but the shrimp,

1668
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: cocktail you don't have to go. There you can go

1669
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: To harry and is right next door in case it's,

1670
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: packed because it will be for The Big ten title,

1671
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: Game i'm certain of. That but a good breakdown On Ohio.

1672
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: State speaking of by the, way The Indianapolis Motor speedway and,

1673
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 1: football both of them kind of crossing over for an

1674
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: event that's coming up in just a couple of. Weeks

1675
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: and one of the guys that's putting that all on

1676
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: is going to join us in about fifteen to talk

1677
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: about That, eddie or you go out And christmas shop,

1678
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: guy or you online only. Guy mixture of, Both, well

1679
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 1: you can't be a mixture of both if the second

1680
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: is only. Right so you're a mixture of online and out.

1681
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: Shopping when do you begin Your christmas?

1682
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: Shopping i've already. Started how many people do you buy for? Mom, dad, mom, dad,

1683
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: brother sister And?

1684
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: Olivia? Okay and then how many gifts per? Person just?

1685
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: Varies do you guys do like like lit like, heo,

1686
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: hey here's My christmas wish list type?

1687
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: Thing or is it just, yeah it's, like, hey do

1688
01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: you have anything that you would?

1689
01:25:59,240 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: Want?

1690
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah here are this stuff THAT i would?

1691
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 3: Like?

1692
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: Okay what about? This when it comes to the gift,

1693
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: opening so you guys all get together as a family

1694
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: On christmas, morning, right so, yes? Yeah do you open

1695
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: one at a time or is it like is everything

1696
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: like at our house for, example all the gifts are

1697
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 1: under the. Tree and then my oldest Sister juje is

1698
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: the one that usually one by, one you, know picks

1699
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: up a gift like you, know To megan From, charlie

1700
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: throws it Over meghan opens like oh okay, great and

1701
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: then next, one, next, one and you, know you do

1702
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: that until they're all. Gone do you guys do it that?

1703
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: Way or do you? Do you walk in and all

1704
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: your gifts are right there and you just open them

1705
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: as you. Please mom passed or mom used to pass them.

1706
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 2: Out you're, like, okay do you get this, One, mike

1707
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 2: you get this? One Of, lexis you get this? One

1708
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: and then there there was a system okay at all,

1709
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: right a, system yes. Exactly now here's something that my

1710
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 2: family began. DOING i mean we did my entire, childhood

1711
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,759
Speaker 2: AND i think some families do. Similar do you open

1712
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:58,879
Speaker 2: any gifts On Christmas?

1713
01:26:58,960 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: Eve?

1714
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: No, okay we used to always do one gift On

1715
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: Christmas eve and it was always like pajamas and or

1716
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: then as we got, older like stuff you would sleep,

1717
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: at like you, know sleeping shorts or whatever. Else that

1718
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: was a big thing On Christmas eve Than Christmas. Day

1719
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 1: and BUT i just this week went out to go

1720
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: begin looking at stuff because even THOUGH i do buy

1721
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: a lot of, online there's something about being out in

1722
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 1: the element right hearing the, music seeing the. Crowd it

1723
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: kind of gets you fired, up gets you ready for.

1724
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: It the hope is obviously always that everybody can enjoy

1725
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: special things During. Christmas and one guy who is a

1726
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: friend not just of this radio, station not just of,

1727
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: myself but of the city Of, indianapolis is making sure

1728
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: that everybody is able to enjoy exactly. That and he's

1729
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: doing it with a guy that is hoping to hear

1730
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: his name called In. Canton i'll explain all of it.

1731
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: Next just start us talking about Just christmas. Traditions one

1732
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,879
Speaker 1: of the great things, about you, know just the holiday

1733
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: season in general is for every. FAMILY i think everybody

1734
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: has their own little traditions that they do or the

1735
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: things that make it. Special they're the people that are

1736
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:15,440
Speaker 1: near you during the holidays and the reality, is unfortunately

1737
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 1: that not everybody is afforded those, opportunities but everybody certainly

1738
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: deserves it and the opportunity to feel the, love if you,

1739
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: will and putting a smile on every child's face is

1740
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: should be the goal of everybody within this.

1741
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 3: Town.

1742
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 1: EDDIE i Think i've told you. Before there are certain,

1743
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 1: times like when WHEN i was a, kid one of

1744
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 1: the traditions my family did is my parents On sunday,

1745
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 1: nights we'd go to Lenders Double dip for a dime

1746
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: time for ice cream and we'd drive downtown AND i

1747
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: got to see kind of the building of. DOWNTOWN i

1748
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 1: mean The auil but now The One America, building The Salesforce,

1749
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: tower the. Dome each week when we would drive down

1750
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 1: the building with the buildings to me as a, Kid

1751
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,879
Speaker 1: i'd look and they'd get bigger and bigger and. Bigger

1752
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: and that's similar to the Amp Paris foundation in what

1753
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: he does for kids at the holiday. Season each, year

1754
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: seemingly it gets bigger and bigger and. Bigger but that's

1755
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,959
Speaker 1: not to say that it doesn't come without the assistance

1756
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,919
Speaker 1: of the. Community SO i wanted to have Amp arason

1757
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: to talk about exactly that he joins now on the

1758
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: job House peel and poor guest, Line Merry christmas to you,

1759
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: man how are you.

1760
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 4: Hey jacob's beautiful.

1761
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 7: Man life is, Good, Mary christmas and Happy holidays to.

1762
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: You let's talk about, This am AND i want to

1763
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: go before we really get into the nuances of what

1764
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: it is that you're doing for kids along With Reggie,

1765
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: wayne WHO i know is you, know the closest of

1766
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: friends to you into the city as. Well but the

1767
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: motivation for this for, YOU i think for so many of,

1768
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: us you, know anytime that you see a young person

1769
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 1: or a family that is in, need hopefully for, anybody

1770
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: your heart goes out to. It BUT i just think

1771
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: that your story is one that it is so much

1772
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 1: more personal than for most of. Us if you could

1773
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: take me through and for those that are not familiar with,

1774
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 1: it why this time of year and helping out families

1775
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 1: is so important to you and your.

1776
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 7: JOURNEY i think you know as a, child, Man i'm

1777
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 7: the youngest of, eight and you KNOW i used to

1778
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 7: wake up and you Know i've never the wild thing

1779
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 7: IS i was never one of those kids who was

1780
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 7: over the top elated With chris With. Christmas AND i

1781
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 7: think a lot of it was looking at how hard the,

1782
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 7: stress how much stress it was for.

1783
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 4: My mother being a single, parent.

1784
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 7: And how hard it was for her to try to.

1785
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 7: Provide AND i learned, this AND i don't know how

1786
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 7: at such a young, age but AS i got, OLDER

1787
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 7: i started to see myself in so many young kids

1788
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 7: clearly that looked like, me and knowing what their mother

1789
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 7: or in father may be going. Through some of them

1790
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 7: have the mother and father in the, household but unfortunately

1791
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 7: they are struggling, financially so, personally AS i got, older

1792
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 7: AND i started to.

1793
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 4: Have, privilege IF i, MAY.

1794
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 7: I always listened to my mother in the back of my,

1795
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 7: mind and she's always instilled in me to who much is,

1796
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 7: given much is, required And i've gotten an overabundance of.

1797
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 7: Life you, know when you talk about, experiences when you

1798
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 7: talk about material, Things so as this person who has always.

1799
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 4: Been a, giver and that's due to my mother.

1800
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 7: And the sacrifices THAT i watched her. Make and at, Thirteen,

1801
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:57,799
Speaker 7: jake it really resonated differently from me because at, thirteen

1802
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 7: when you're a child and you're supposed to be figuring

1803
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 7: out your, life and you're supposed to be out and

1804
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 7: having fun and doing certain things as a thirteen year old,

1805
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 7: child trauma hit my family different than a lot of other,

1806
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 7: families and particularly me because at, Thirteen jake AND i

1807
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 7: just started sharing this story more often BECAUSE i couldn't

1808
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,839
Speaker 7: really talk about. It BUT i over the last probably

1809
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 7: two to three, years doing self reflection and working on

1810
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 7: my mental, HEALTH i understood where this person came from

1811
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 7: that you're.

1812
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 4: Describing it came from.

1813
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 7: A person who was, thirteen who watched his stepfather cheat

1814
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 7: his brother in the, head and at Thirteen i'm watching

1815
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 7: a thirty eight revolver within two seats take my brother's,

1816
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 7: brain And i'm, sorry so so, graphic but it's just

1817
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 7: part of WHO i. Am and at, Thirteen i'm watching

1818
01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 7: the smoke And i'm watching.

1819
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 4: My brother lay up against the.

1820
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 7: Wall but at the same, Time i'm standing there watching

1821
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 7: my mother watch her son life be taken, away watch

1822
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 7: her husband's life be taken, away and then watch her youngest,

1823
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 7: son who is me life potentially be taken, away but

1824
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 7: through the grace of. Prayer AND i grew up in

1825
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 7: a prayering. HOME i tell people.

1826
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 4: All the time my mother AND i know a lot of.

1827
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 7: Very, strong physically fit men and, women but my mother

1828
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 7: is the strongest person THAT i know ever in the

1829
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 7: world in my lifetime because for her to endure that

1830
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 7: and still stay steadfast in her belief and NOW i

1831
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 7: understand more and more WHO i.

1832
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 4: Became because of, them because of.

1833
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 7: Her that's what you see in the philanthropic side of.

1834
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 7: ME a lot of people get caught. Up jake And An, Harris,

1835
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 7: yeah he's cool with he Knows kevin Hard, er he

1836
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 7: Knows Mike, ess he Knows Lebron, james he Knows Michael.

1837
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 7: Jordan he Knows Reggie, Wayne, Peyton, Manning, jimmers he knows all.

1838
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 4: These, people but they really have no.

1839
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 7: Idea WHO amp. Is and those people don't know WHY

1840
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 7: amp is the way that he. Is And, jake you

1841
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 7: AND i have known each other for a long long,

1842
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 7: time and there's a great admiration because we both actually

1843
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 7: have that in common where we think about other people before.

1844
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 7: Ourselves so that's the bigger picture of WHY i do

1845
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 7: WHAT i do and where it comes.

1846
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 3: From you.

1847
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 1: Know with, THAT amp AND i know that you've partnered

1848
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 1: with and we'll get everybody the information about how they can.

1849
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 1: Help december the, twentieth The Indianapolis Motor speedway for, kids

1850
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: AND i love the fact that you bring in you,

1851
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: know for a lot of, kids it might be the

1852
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 1: first time that they're introduced to the, speedway one of

1853
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 1: the iconic sports, venues or you, know for that, Matter

1854
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Reggie wayne and the things that you. Do AND i

1855
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: know that we're going to find ways for people to

1856
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 1: be able to help out with. That But i'm curious of.

1857
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: This of the athletes that you've known in. Town you,

1858
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: know one of the things THAT i remember the most

1859
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 1: About Reggie wayne's career was AND i don't remember at

1860
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 1: what point in his career it was amp but The

1861
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 1: colts were PLAYING i believe it was In New york

1862
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: against The, jets and there was question about whether or

1863
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:22,640
Speaker 1: Not Reggie wayne would play because his brother was tragically

1864
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: involved in a fatal, accident a car accident as a

1865
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: delivery guy In New, orleans like earlier in that week

1866
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: or the week before and after the, GAME i remember

1867
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: going in and Interviewing Reggi, wayne AND i could see

1868
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: the hurt on his face about the loss for his,

1869
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 1: family but at the same time the obligation that he

1870
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,799
Speaker 1: felt to be able to be there for the family

1871
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 1: that he had within that locker. Room does the common

1872
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: ground of family loss and? Struggle is that part of

1873
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 1: what bonds you With Reggie?

1874
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 10: Wayne, YES i, mean you, Know i'm older Than reggie

1875
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 10: AND i have that same commonality With Edrin james also

1876
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 10: Because Edred james lost the mother of his kids when

1877
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 10: he was playing in THE nfl.

1878
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 7: And he became a single parent, Also AND i was

1879
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 7: there through.

1880
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 11: That you.

1881
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 7: Know the thing with, Me, JAKE i arrived at that

1882
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:32,799
Speaker 7: space of maturity much faster than they probably did because

1883
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 7: at the end of, it when you're a professional, ATHLETE

1884
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 7: i empathize with those guys Because i've been. There so

1885
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 7: when you're a professional, athlete and this is where a

1886
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 7: lot of people don't understand how emotional these guys their

1887
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 7: mental is as a professional. Athlete and then, still like

1888
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 7: to the point you're talking about With reggie that that particular,

1889
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 7: day it's almost the same type of scenario literally With

1890
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 7: edrin AND i know several athletes that have Had.

1891
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 4: Gary brackett same thing with his. Parents so there is a.

1892
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 7: Commonality but if you can look at the person beyond

1893
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 7: the football, player then you are able to have that

1894
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 7: connection without even talking about, it because this is not

1895
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 7: Something jake that we all talk. About of course in

1896
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,679
Speaker 7: time And reggie's brother just had his birthday a couple

1897
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 7: of weeks, ago so he was in a very dark

1898
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 7: space while he was. Coaching, again a lot of people

1899
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 7: they didn't know, that but they don't see the humanistic.

1900
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 4: Side of who these athletes. Are SO i was.

1901
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:45,799
Speaker 7: Just fortunate to be become really good friends business partners

1902
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 7: with these, guys but also became like a big brother

1903
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 7: mentor to him to balance out the fakeness of football

1904
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 7: and what people perceptions, of what people thought they were

1905
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 7: beyond a human.

1906
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: Being and what year did you first begin doing AND

1907
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 1: i know you've, done you, know in in various, capacities

1908
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 1: toy drives or things for the, holidays what year did

1909
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: it really start to kind of take off to the

1910
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 1: point that you know that now obviously you've got a

1911
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: team of. PEOPLE i, mean you Know reggie and you

1912
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 1: know our our mutual Friend Greg simmons is a great

1913
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 1: guy that you know is always helping out and getting.

1914
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 1: Involved but when did this really start to take off

1915
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 1: to the point of what we now know it as

1916
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 1: part of The Empires, FOUNDATION.

1917
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 7: I would say on a larger scale because WE i, mean,

1918
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 7: Honestly edrin AND I edrin was with me WHEN i

1919
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 7: first started this back in like.

1920
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 4: Two thousand and, four.

1921
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 7: AND i started it with my, Attorney Nathaniel lee at the.

1922
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 7: Time but then that was just, adopting you, know families

1923
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:55,520
Speaker 7: from within.

1924
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 4: His client, base my attorney's client.

1925
01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 7: Base but at the same, time there was a message

1926
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,759
Speaker 7: it for, me which is something that people don't. Understand

1927
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 7: this Is i'm taking these young athletes And i'm teaching

1928
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 7: them that there is another life greater than just being

1929
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 7: a professional athlete and a, celebrity and they see through

1930
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 7: me BECAUSE i don't, waiver.

1931
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 4: And you, Notice jake Like i'm gonna do. It i'm

1932
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 4: doing it with or without.

1933
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:26,799
Speaker 7: Them but as time went, ON i would say probably twenty,

1934
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 7: TWELVE i woke up one day and SAID i want to.

1935
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 4: Adopt three hundred.

1936
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 7: Kids and WHEN i do, This, JAKE i don't RELY

1937
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,719
Speaker 7: a lot of people think that my professional athlete friends

1938
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 7: give me. Money i've never Asked Reggy wayne to give

1939
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 7: me money to do any. Bit i've never Asked Edrin

1940
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:49,520
Speaker 7: james to give me money to do any bent BECAUSE.

1941
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 4: I also have to.

1942
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 7: KNOW i also know that everybody doesn't have service as

1943
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 7: part of THEIR, dna and that's not a bad.

1944
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 4: Thing that's the reality of. It that's not a bad.

1945
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 4: Thing but if you show people.

1946
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 7: That there is much more to their name than just

1947
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 7: the money aspect of, it which is WHY i think

1948
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 7: my relationship was so strong with a lot of these,

1949
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 7: guys because it's not built around me utilizing their name

1950
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 7: for glorification to say That i'm somebody BECAUSE i stand

1951
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 7: next to this. Person, no WHEN i Say Reggie wayne's,

1952
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 7: name it's going to be something, impactful and the same

1953
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 7: thing with The Indianapolis Motor, speedway which is Why i'm,

1954
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:38,799
Speaker 7: There LIKE i am going to always protect the image

1955
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 7: of my. Friends i'm always going to protect the brand

1956
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:46,600
Speaker 7: of these. Guys so twenty, twelve twenty, FOURTEEN i just

1957
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 7: took this on on my, own and THEN i brought

1958
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 7: in at the Time Robert, mathis and THEN i Had Jack,

1959
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 7: Leonard Darius leonard his rookie year when he first, came

1960
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 7: he was a part of. It T Y hilton became

1961
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 7: a part of, It Miles turner became a part of.

1962
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 7: It SO i grabbed these guys at a young. Age

1963
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 7: but they see the image Of amps and what he,

1964
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 7: does so eventually you're, LIKE.

1965
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 4: WHOA i loved this last.

1966
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 7: Year Ady mitchell was out there With reggie AND i Because,

1967
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 7: reggie we got to show these young kids. Early they

1968
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 7: got to see what you do and why your name

1969
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 7: is so big in this, city and we need them

1970
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 7: because it's.

1971
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,480
Speaker 4: Not just about their, Money. Jake it's about.

1972
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 7: Young kids coming from these inner cities that watch these

1973
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 7: celebrities but think these celebrities life is just that what

1974
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 7: they see them in a fancy, car big, house jewelry

1975
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 7: and all of.

1976
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 12: That, no.

1977
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 7: These athletes come from broken, homes just like the ones

1978
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 7: you AND i come.

1979
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 4: From so that's the most.

1980
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 7: Important message with the athletes is their image there means

1981
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 7: more to me than their.

1982
01:41:56,479 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 1: MONEY a thousand kids For, christmas by the, way adopted

1983
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 1: the families have been pre. Selected the Amp Paris Reggie

1984
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 1: wayne put a smile on a child's face For. Christmas

1985
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 1: distribution will Be december, twentieth that Is saturday at The

1986
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Motor spirit A, SATURDAY i should, say two weeks

1987
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 1: from This. SATURDAY. Amp in terms of donations for whether

1988
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 1: it be toys or monetary, DONATION i know the Amp

1989
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 1: parisfoundation dot org and it is right there where people

1990
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 1: can make a monetary donation or help out in terms

1991
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,839
Speaker 1: of the toys. Themselves are you still accepting donations for the? Toys,

1992
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 1: yes we do.

1993
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 7: That the only thing that we ask is because we

1994
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 7: don't have like a hub where they can drop them.

1995
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 4: Off that's the only downside to.

1996
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 7: It so WHAT i try to do is the easiest

1997
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 7: thing is if someone reaches out to me via social,

1998
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:51,679
Speaker 7: media which is amp amp AhR ris at all social media,

1999
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 7: platforms they CAN dm me and then we can figure

2000
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 7: out a way to make that.

2001
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 4: Happen LIKE i.

2002
01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 7: Love to work with companies that would would be willing to, say,

2003
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 7: hey you could use our, store THEN i would do

2004
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 7: something like. That but right, Now, JAKE i don't have

2005
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 7: a drop off.

2006
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 4: Place that's WHAT i.

2007
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 7: Mean, LIKE i literally do this grassroots because it's from my.

2008
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 7: Heart but by the time the event takes, place they don't.

2009
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 7: Know we've been at The Indianapolis Motor speedway for two, Weeks.

2010
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 7: Jake we start On december the, tenth and we're there

2011
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 7: every day like a. Job volunteers come, in they help,

2012
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:29,480
Speaker 7: us and THEN i actually go shopping for the toys.

2013
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 4: Myself you. Know we spend like.

2014
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 7: Three or four days and various stores throughout the, city

2015
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 7: and the age group ranges from zero to. Ten but

2016
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 7: you know this IS i come on AND i Think

2017
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 7: radio one because they're a huge. Partner, Jake you're a

2018
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 7: big advocate of mine and we've been friends for a long.

2019
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,759
Speaker 7: Time SO i would be remiss IF i didn't shout

2020
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 7: you guys out for allowing me to get this word,

2021
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 7: out because it's not just about, me it's not just About.

2022
01:43:58,120 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 4: Reggie it's literally to.

2023
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:05,440
Speaker 7: Get people to understand humility still, Exists humanity still, exists

2024
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 7: and if you can bless one child This, christmas do

2025
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 7: that it could be like WHEN i grew, up a

2026
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 7: parafox in some paper meant a lot to, me just

2027
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 7: to be able to open.

2028
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:23,560
Speaker 1: Something, WELL i think am, GRANTED i think an important

2029
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: And i've seen this, myself, Okay AND i know that you,

2030
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 1: know you want to be able to reach and save every, kid,

2031
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:33,600
Speaker 1: right and then you kind of come to the reality

2032
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: of or the understanding or the hope. Of to, me

2033
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 1: WHEN i see things like, THIS i just want each

2034
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 1: kid in this city THAT i love to feel like

2035
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: there is a city that loves them. Back AND i

2036
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 1: think it's so important for you, Know i've always, said

2037
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: like the true measure of the character of a city

2038
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: is not how it treats its upper, echelon but rather

2039
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: how it treats its. Totality AND i think it's so

2040
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: important for these kids to see people that are involved

2041
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 1: in this community representing the, community to know that that

2042
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: they are a part of, it and that they matter,

2043
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: too and that they are not overlooked and that therefore

2044
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:16,560
Speaker 1: they are a part of this community and that community

2045
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: is there for them and even if that maybe if

2046
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 1: that comes in just a wrapped, parasocks it's the symbolism of.

2047
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 1: It and to, me that's WHAT i think you should

2048
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 1: be thanked for is the fact that all of these

2049
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 1: kids get the opportunity to realize that there is still

2050
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 1: good out.

2051
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 4: There and that's the.

2052
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 7: TRUTH i mean when you think about you, know The

2053
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 7: Indianapolis Motor, speedway The Indianapolis, coach The Indiana, Paces Indiana Black,

2054
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:47,600
Speaker 7: expo there are so many different organizations that come alongside of.

2055
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 7: Me you, know we don't just do toys dig the toy.

2056
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 7: Giveaway LIKE i live my life like this topic versus,

2057
01:45:55,560 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 7: issues happiness versus, joy content versus the, intents and a

2058
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 7: lot of people lived their lives and it's unfortunate that

2059
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 7: the world we live in it's based on, topics, happiness

2060
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 7: content and.

2061
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 4: Images that's what drives our.

2062
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 7: World And i'm trying to combat, that which is you,

2063
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 7: know it's, tough you know as well.

2064
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 4: AS i, do because you do your community.

2065
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 7: Service it's tough when you're trying to show that positive

2066
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 7: side that, that But i'm steadfast at. It SO i

2067
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 7: don't take for granted that we get to expose people

2068
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 7: that would not get a chance to just the speedway

2069
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 7: as a. Whole WHEN i got With Mark miles And

2070
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 7: Alison malincoln And Doug, bows they didn't really understand BECAUSE

2071
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 7: i was doing this before AND i moved a pivot

2072
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 7: to The. INDIAN i Was Smotor speedway because OF, covid

2073
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 7: because it used to be on the inside and it

2074
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 7: was a whole event with, dinner concert and everything THAT

2075
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 7: i was. Doing but that's HOW i ended up at

2076
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 7: The indian was smote. Seaway but they the first YEAR

2077
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 7: i was, there they couldn't understand the vision of it

2078
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 7: because it's so unique within. Itself but now they are, like,

2079
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 7: hey what day you coming back because they see the

2080
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:17,759
Speaker 7: impact of those. Families, days grandmothers pulling up in cars

2081
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 7: with their, grandbaby you, know, grandparents adults literally in, tears

2082
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 7: and it's not like we're giving them cars or, iPhones

2083
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 7: but they're in tiers because to your, point they, see

2084
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 7: and it could be twenty degrees, outside if the day

2085
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 7: Was december the, twenties whatever the temperature, is we're, outside

2086
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 7: standing outside serving these. Families so you're a spot on

2087
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 7: when you talk about the, image because that's.

2088
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 4: What it's really all.

2089
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 7: About we have to figure out a way in this

2090
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:55,759
Speaker 7: city to combat all of the. Negativity and it takes

2091
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 7: the Amp, paris it takes A Regie, wayne it takes A,

2092
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 7: jquerry it takes.

2093
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 4: A village of.

2094
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 7: Us and we can't get everybody but the ones that

2095
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 7: we can. Do and that's WHY i took a large

2096
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 7: number of adopting a thousand, kids and this year the

2097
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 7: need is so much. Greater i'm up to twelve hundred kids.

2098
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 7: Day SO i am really like, pressing pushing the. Envelope

2099
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 7: BUT i know in the end it's going to be worth.

2100
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 7: It so that's the most important thing for.

2101
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 3: ME.

2102
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Amp what was your brother's, Name.

2103
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 4: Roger.

2104
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Harris Roger, harris So Roger, Harris Rashan Anthony wayne in

2105
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 1: tribute to them and memory to, them and two brothers

2106
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 1: that are very proud of the work that is being

2107
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 1: done by their brothers to this day helping OUT Amp Harris,

2108
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 1: foundation helping out now twelve hundred kids In Central. INDIANA

2109
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: amp will have you on again before the, twentieth, ma'am

2110
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 1: BUT i most appreciate it on behalf of this, city

2111
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: and certainly, Again Merry christmas.

2112
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,799
Speaker 4: To, You thank that you love, You. Bro you know that.

2113
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: Appreciate, it and that is absolutely. Reciprocated And paris joining

2114
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 1: us on The Java, House peel And Poor guest. Line

2115
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 1: you heard him Mention Reggie. Wayne you heard him talk

2116
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 1: About Ady, mitchell who is now obviously off to a

2117
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: good start in his time In New, york And Reggie,

2118
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,680
Speaker 1: wayne his wide receiver. Coach but they have a task at,

2119
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 1: hand Do Reggie wayne and The colts With jacksonville the

2120
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 1: voice of The. Colts Matt taylor joins us other side

2121
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: to preview and discuss who's ann and who might be

2122
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: out for that game. Next Matt taylor is The voice

2123
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 1: of The. Colts joins Us Java, House peel And Poor guest.

2124
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,799
Speaker 1: Line courtesy Of Shelby. Materials, matt you just heard yourself

2125
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 1: reading about. THAT i guess the difference between you and

2126
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 1: new hires At Showby. Materials you did not get every

2127
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 1: other weekend, off, Correct not this time of.

2128
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 3: Here my.

2129
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 11: Friend now we are grinding AND i need all the

2130
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 11: COFFEE i can.

2131
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: Get, listen we'll get you Some Java House. Eddie would

2132
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 1: you like to send him over some of your black mango?

2133
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:53,719
Speaker 1: Tea or are you going with The? Columbia and THEN

2134
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 1: i don't have.

2135
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,639
Speaker 2: Any black mango T. Jake you only give me, one

2136
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: AND i don't want to steal any more from your.

2137
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 1: Stash so, okay well see WHAT i can't do to ook, Yep,

2138
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 1: matt let's begin with this from a health standpoint in

2139
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 1: practice today some of those that we've been looking upon

2140
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 1: on the injury, Report where do things? Stand what's the

2141
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: latest on This?

2142
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 11: Thursday, YEAH i, think you, know knock on, WOOD i

2143
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 11: think guys are in pretty good. SHAPE i, mean, obviously

2144
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 11: the biggest one is going to be that, FIBULA i

2145
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 11: should say Of Daniel, jones and you, KNOW i Think

2146
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 11: Shane stike In Daniel jones himself, yesterday are both guys

2147
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 11: still pretty emphatic, that uh he's good to, go very

2148
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 11: little if any limitations to his ability to play with.

2149
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 11: It and SO i, mean we heard all about the

2150
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 11: special pad and, uh you, know the special mechanism for

2151
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 11: him to be able to negotiate, uh physically playing with that.

2152
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 11: Injury SO i, think knock on, wood this is a

2153
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 11: pretty healthy team going into a very pivotal game against

2154
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 11: The Jacksonville. Jaguars, now you can't say the same, thing

2155
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 11: at least and not as of right now About. Jacksonville

2156
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 11: they got some key players who may not be available

2157
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 11: for them On. Sunday we'll have to kind of wait and.

2158
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 11: See but the big, ones you're keeping an eye On

2159
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:08,679
Speaker 11: Trayvon walker on the. Outside one of their better pass,

2160
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 11: Rushers Parker, washington who's there leading receiver both in catches

2161
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 11: and receiving. Yards he's also a really dangerous return. Man

2162
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 11: he's got two punt returns for touchdowns. Already this. Season

2163
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 11: they did some shuffling along their offensive line because of.

2164
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 11: Injuries you, Know ezra clear excuse. Me Robert hainsey has

2165
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 11: been banged up a little. Bit patrick mcerrey has Been

2166
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 11: i've been dealing with a concussion the last couple of.

2167
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 11: Weeks looks like he's on track to, play BUT i

2168
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 11: think more, uncertainty certainly on the side of The Jaguars

2169
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 11: ledger and The colts going into a big game for both.

2170
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 1: Teams you, know The jaguars are really intriguing to, Me

2171
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 1: matt before we get back into The colt stuff because

2172
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: and maybe you, know Maybe i'm just ignorant here or

2173
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 1: guilty is charged on, that but it's not a team

2174
01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 1: THAT i had focused a lot on in terms of

2175
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 1: what they were doing to this, point BECAUSE i just

2176
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 1: kind of assumed that they would, be you, know stuck

2177
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: right there around five, hundred and then all of a

2178
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 1: sudden you kind of look over your shoulder and you,

2179
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 1: go you, Know Trevor lawrence has had a couple of

2180
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: decent games, here and they've got a decent, defense and,

2181
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:16,600
Speaker 1: wow they're right here in the thick of it In

2182
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 1: houston's not just the only one to worry about what

2183
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 1: what jumps out at you is you've kind of Studied

2184
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: jacksonville about what they're doing that's.

2185
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 3: Working, well you hit the nail on the.

2186
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 11: Head they are a very mysterious team because, well big

2187
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 11: picture going into this, game you've got two eight and four,

2188
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 11: teams but you have two different types of eight and,

2189
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 11: four if you. Will you've got a surging eight and

2190
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 11: four in The, jaguars who started the year four and,

2191
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 11: one hit some speed bumps in the middle of the.

2192
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 11: Season they've won three in a, row and then you

2193
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,839
Speaker 11: have like a declining eight and four in The. Colts

2194
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 11: obviously everybody knows WHAT i mean by, that Right they

2195
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 11: started seven and, one lost back to back. Games now

2196
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 11: they've lost three of their last. Four BUT i think

2197
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 11: you're so spot up to talk about this With jacksonville

2198
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:03,840
Speaker 11: because they are a very mysterious.

2199
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 3: Team and you, know you hear.

2200
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 11: All, this you hear the set all the. Time it

2201
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 11: sounds cliche because it, is but it's also very. True you,

2202
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 11: know in THE, nfl a lot of teams go as

2203
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 11: their starting quarterback. Goes, well if that was the case

2204
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 11: for The Jacksonville, jaguars they should be four and, eight

2205
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 11: not eight and. Four based on the Season Trevor lawrence

2206
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 11: is having because he leads THE nfl in turnovers with,

2207
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 11: fourteen he ranked second in interceptions with. Eleven he's got

2208
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 11: the fourth worst passer rating in THE nfl so far this,

2209
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 11: year right around eighty. Six in, fact he only Has

2210
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 11: Last sunday was his first game all the year with

2211
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 11: a passer rating over one, hundred and that was against

2212
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 11: a very Terrible titans. Team and just look at that

2213
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,640
Speaker 11: game on its own last week Against. TENNESSEE i Know

2214
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 11: tennessee's not very, good but they won the game by

2215
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 11: like twenty five. Points but if you look at the

2216
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:58,639
Speaker 11: box score and watch the, Game jacksonville in that game

2217
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 11: had seven and they went three and out five times

2218
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 11: And then another thing that's really weird about their team

2219
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 11: is that they are twenty six in THE nfl and

2220
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 11: third down offense third down conversion, rate but they're ace

2221
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 11: in time and. Possession, LIKE i don't know how those

2222
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 11: two things can exist at the same. Time how can

2223
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 11: you hang on to the ball for that long but

2224
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 11: be that bad on third? Down but they're really extreme

2225
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 11: in a lot of different. Areas they're really good at

2226
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 11: taking the football away on. Defense they are really good

2227
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 11: at stopping the run on. Defense in, fact they're number

2228
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 11: one in rushing, defense giving up only about eighty two

2229
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 11: yards a, game which is really concerning for The. Colts

2230
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 11: they try to kickstart that offense again on the ground

2231
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 11: With Jonathan. Taylor so that's kind of the long and

2232
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 11: short of it With. Jacksonville they're a good, team but

2233
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 11: they don't blow you away in a lot of different important.

2234
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 11: Categories but they're just really good at a few different

2235
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 11: things that that's kind of carrying their, water if you,

2236
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 11: will to an eight and four starting a three game winning.

2237
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: Streak Here matt in talking About Matt taylor is our,

2238
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 1: guest the voice of The. Colts, obviously he is on

2239
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: The Java house peeling for a guest, Line. Matt when

2240
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: you talk About Daniel jones and the, injury and we've

2241
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 1: talked plenty about, this you, know knock on. Wood by all,

2242
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 1: account it would appear as though the injury is not

2243
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 1: going to worsen from an injury, standpoint but the pain

2244
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 1: is something that may be the challenge For Daniel. Jones

2245
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: has he offered any indication as to whether or not that, pain,

2246
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 1: say worsened over the course of a, game or what

2247
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 1: they can do to manage that to maybe increase his.

2248
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 3: Mobility, yeah it's a really good.

2249
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 11: QUESTION i, mean, obviously When Shane stikeen and Or Daniel

2250
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 11: jones are asked about, this they they keep it vague

2251
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 11: and then they're not, disrespectful but they keep it pretty you, know,

2252
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 11: bought you, know pretty tight to the if you, will

2253
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 11: pretty buttoned up when it comes to the information they're

2254
01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 11: giving out about this. Injury so from, that stamp points

2255
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 11: a great. QUESTION i just don't know that we're gonna

2256
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 11: know the answer to. It maybe maybe ever or you,

2257
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 11: KNOW i think that the earliest end of the, season

2258
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 11: or maybe when guys come back for the spring next

2259
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 11: year and, OTAs maybe he'll get some, uh some some

2260
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 11: some glimpses of of what was actually going on this

2261
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 11: time of. Year but, UH i just think out of

2262
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 11: a competitive advantage, standpoint The colts aren't gonna give you

2263
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 11: a whole. Lot BUT i think it is fair to

2264
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:31,560
Speaker 11: say That Daniel jones is dealing with with something right

2265
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 11: because he's on the injury, report there are reports out,

2266
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 11: there and again there's been a special pad made for.

2267
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 11: HIM i think the biggest thing that you're seeing in

2268
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 11: terms of the overall you, know for lack of a better,

2269
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 11: term like the ramifications of the injury so far is

2270
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 11: just His they don't call a ton of design and

2271
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,640
Speaker 11: direct runs for. Him they really haven't been doing that

2272
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 11: at all so far the. Season but you, KNOW i

2273
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 11: go back three weeks ago before the bye In. BERLIN i,

2274
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 11: mean he had five quarterback scrambles in that game for

2275
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 11: about fifty, yards and that and his play and that

2276
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 11: part of his game was a huge reason why they

2277
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 11: won that. Game you, know you go back to third

2278
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 11: and twenty one late in the game and he scrambles

2279
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 11: out of the pocket for nineteen yards to put The

2280
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 11: colts in a very favorable fourth and, two which they

2281
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 11: go on to. Convert and then they go on to

2282
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 11: win the game in. Overtime but in the last two,

2283
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 11: games he only has two quarterback, scrambles and If i'm

2284
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 11: right about, THIS i think he only has one design

2285
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 11: rollout and that was kind of a miniature rollout where

2286
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 11: he Hit Tyler warren on a touchdown in the third

2287
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 11: quarter or early fourth, QUARTER i should, say excuse me

2288
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 11: Against houston the other. Day so you know also, too

2289
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 11: you know you Had Tyler warren motion in the backfield

2290
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 11: and dip under center and trying to run a quarterback.

2291
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 11: Sneak you, Know Daniel jones normally that guy for The.

2292
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 11: Colts he's been really successful in doing that this. YEAR

2293
01:57:57,080 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 11: i think he's eleven for twelve on quarterback sneaks inverting

2294
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 11: on third and short or fourth in. Short SO i

2295
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 11: think that's the biggest component that we're going to have

2296
01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 11: to keep an eye on for The colts in this

2297
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 11: offense Is Daniel, jones's, uh you, know the football in

2298
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:14,839
Speaker 11: his hands either under center on quarterback sneaks or design

2299
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 11: boots or, scrambles BECAUSE i, think you, know that's that's

2300
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 11: the part of the offense WHERE i think he can

2301
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 11: be most effective running the football when he's fully, healthy but,

2302
01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 11: obviously you, know with That phiebil, injury it might be

2303
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,959
Speaker 11: hindering his ability to do, that and Maybe Shane styche's

2304
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 11: willingness to call plays where he's outside of the.

2305
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 1: Pocket, matt what was your when you were a? Student

2306
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 1: what was your best? Subject whether it Be franklin or On,

2307
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 1: collie what was the Best your best subject in school was?

2308
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 11: What, WELL i don't know if it was my best,

2309
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:49,560
Speaker 11: subject but my my the subject THAT i was probably

2310
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 11: most interested in was, algebra you, know like solving.

2311
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 1: Equations you are the only person in the history of

2312
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:57,880
Speaker 1: radio that has given that.

2313
01:58:57,960 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 3: ANSWER i don't.

2314
01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 11: Know there's something about algebra that's sort OF i don't

2315
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 11: want to say it came, easy BUT i didn't mind doing.

2316
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 1: It, okay perfect entry into, This, okay because ALGEBRA i

2317
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 1: basically got nothing but f's. Okay So i'm going to

2318
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 1: present to you a, theory and THEN i want you

2319
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 1: to grade ME a TO f and tell me whether

2320
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 1: or Not i'm reverting back to my days of, algebra

2321
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 1: or if it's more so Like, english WHERE i got a's.

2322
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 3: OKAY i love.

2323
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 1: IT i mentioned this. EARLIER i thought one of the

2324
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 1: overlooked aspects of what took place On sunday was not

2325
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 1: even the fact that we Know Daniel jones and the

2326
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 1: injury and the challenges that created for his, mobility but

2327
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:47,800
Speaker 1: one of the aspects of that that further complicated it

2328
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 1: was the fact That Tyler warren was coming off of

2329
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 1: illness and, theoretically or one would, assume was not necessarily

2330
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: one hundred. Percent and while he was utilized on some,

2331
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 1: plays the overall name fature of having him as that

2332
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 1: safety net that you could drop off to and turn

2333
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 1: a two yard play into an eight yard play after,

2334
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:10,920
Speaker 1: contact et cetera was kind of nullified or taken, away

2335
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 1: and that made it even that much more challenging For

2336
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 1: Daniel jones because he didn't have kind of his safety

2337
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:17,840
Speaker 1: net bailout.

2338
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:18,200
Speaker 3: Option.

2339
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 1: There your, GRADE.

2340
02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 11: I give it A b, minus, okay BECAUSE i and

2341
02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 11: the reason why IS i THINK i agree with you

2342
02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:30,440
Speaker 11: more THAN i disagree with you on, it because you

2343
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 11: know you're. RIGHT i, Mean Tyler warren wasn't one hundred.

2344
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 11: Percent there was one play WHERE i, THOUGHT i, mean you,

2345
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:40,080
Speaker 11: know there's a million plays throughout the course of a,

2346
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 11: game right and who. KNOWS i think it's probably only

2347
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 11: fair for him to really answer, it but just. Speculating

2348
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:50,040
Speaker 11: there was one play WHERE i THOUGHT i really noticed

2349
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:53,040
Speaker 11: it where it was kind of A i forget what

2350
02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:55,080
Speaker 11: stage of the game it, is in the middle of the,

2351
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 11: game either late second, quarter early third, quarter but they

2352
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 11: Hit Tyler warren on a quick out and and he

2353
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 11: got about three yards on the, play and he was quickly,

2354
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:08,440
Speaker 11: TACKLED i think by a middle linebacker For HOUSTON a

2355
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 11: He's Al. Shire and it was a play WHERE i just, thought,

2356
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:17,920
Speaker 11: like a fully, healthy non Illness Tyler warren is able

2357
02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 11: to kind of get out of that tackle and or you,

2358
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:23,920
Speaker 11: know get up field quicker than he'd actually did with

2359
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:26,160
Speaker 11: the ball in his. Hands you, know he had a

2360
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 11: three yard, gain and fully Healthy Tyler warren on that

2361
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:32,440
Speaker 11: PLAY i think picks up like eight yards and helps

2362
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:35,240
Speaker 11: The colts in terms, of you, know better down in

2363
02:01:35,320 --> 02:01:38,840
Speaker 11: distance and stay on schedule a little bit. Better and also,

2364
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:40,720
Speaker 11: too you, know case in, point he had a or

2365
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:43,680
Speaker 11: a season low and thus career low because he's a

2366
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:47,080
Speaker 11: rookie twenty two yards in that game and just WASN'T

2367
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:49,800
Speaker 11: i just didn't feel like he was the Same Tyler.

2368
02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 11: Warren and whether that's a fair observation or, not or

2369
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 11: maybe that's reading into it a little bit too, much but,

2370
02:01:57,600 --> 02:02:00,160
Speaker 11: YEAH i didn't, notice you, know for the moment to

2371
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:02,040
Speaker 11: part the same thing about, war and he just looked

2372
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 11: a little BIT i don't, know like half steps slower or.

2373
02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:08,440
Speaker 11: Whatever but you, KNOW i think hopefully with with another

2374
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:10,920
Speaker 11: week of, recovery he's able to come back and play

2375
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 11: at a at a higher, rate fuller, speed and hopefully

2376
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 11: he's fully.

2377
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 1: Healthy that sounds like an eight to. Me you're a tough.

2378
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:21,360
Speaker 11: Grader, well, yeah LIKE i, SAID i, mean we're we're

2379
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 11: we're speculating on. That So i'm kind of, Like i'm

2380
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:27,840
Speaker 11: that's like a, scantron you, know like half the scantron

2381
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:28,400
Speaker 11: was ripped.

2382
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 1: Off hold, On so the theory gets a better grade

2383
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 1: than the actual proof of the.

2384
02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 3: Theory, right that's, fair that's. Fair, yeah that's.

2385
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:37,760
Speaker 11: Fair good good, hypothesis, right that's.

2386
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 1: Right, right we had the, control we had the. Hypothesis

2387
02:02:40,280 --> 02:02:41,960
Speaker 1: we just don't have the proof at this point that we.

2388
02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 11: Need, well there's just there's there's too many variables right. There,

2389
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 11: right wasn't that a good science, word like too many?

2390
02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 3: Variables, yes to.

2391
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 1: Provethes by the, way speaking of. PROOF i have to

2392
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:53,520
Speaker 1: tell this story every time The colts are getting ready

2393
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:55,600
Speaker 1: to go To. Jacksonville but one of the years THAT

2394
02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:59,720
Speaker 1: i was Covering colts And, jags my buddy that lived

2395
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:02,440
Speaker 1: In axonville took myself and a couple of members of

2396
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:06,000
Speaker 1: the local media out for cocktails the night before at

2397
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 1: a place Called. Locals that was the name of the,

2398
02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:10,600
Speaker 1: bar and he knew the manager and so therefore he's,

2399
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 1: like by the, way, guys there is no tab. Here

2400
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 1: everything's on the, house AND i. ABSTAINED i had a

2401
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 1: couple of night Coach Rich, nye AND i went ahead

2402
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 1: and played at the safe. Route but there is one

2403
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:22,720
Speaker 1: member of the local media that you, Know MATT i

2404
02:03:22,720 --> 02:03:25,160
Speaker 1: will never say his, name that went like one hundred

2405
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:27,040
Speaker 1: proof throughout the course of the day and then puked

2406
02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:29,640
Speaker 1: on the field the next, day puked on the field

2407
02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:30,280
Speaker 1: during the. Game.

2408
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:34,840
Speaker 11: Damn, yeah, YEAH i remember my first road trip To.

2409
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 11: Jacksonville what the HELL.

2410
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 3: I?

2411
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 1: Mean?

2412
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,840
Speaker 3: Now now do you GET? I DO i get?

2413
02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 11: Hints DO i get a? Year DO i get a time?

2414
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:45,600
Speaker 11: Period or is he still? Going what are we doing?

2415
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:49,400
Speaker 1: Here no longer in the. Business not because of THAT

2416
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:52,560
Speaker 1: a super good dude, MAN i mean great, Dude and

2417
02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:54,520
Speaker 1: this was out of. Character it wasn't like he. Was

2418
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:56,480
Speaker 1: it was just one of those deals where it, just you,

2419
02:03:56,480 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 1: know the sun and the night before called up to.

2420
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:03,520
Speaker 1: Them and ACTUALLY i think The colts puked on the

2421
02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:06,400
Speaker 1: field that game, too down In, jacksonville which they've done

2422
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 1: many a. Time you worked with, THEM i will say

2423
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:14,320
Speaker 1: that you worked with them for a brief period of.

2424
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 11: Time, no, well Well i'm gonna have To i'm gonna

2425
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:20,320
Speaker 11: hang up here and go through the roll of decks

2426
02:04:20,360 --> 02:04:24,040
Speaker 11: and go through the recesses of my brain to see

2427
02:04:24,040 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 11: who had.

2428
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 3: A tough go of it In.

2429
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 6: Jacksonville but, LISTEN i guess we've all been.

2430
02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:30,200
Speaker 1: There, RIGHT i will, Say, okay last THING i will,

2431
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 1: say AND i say this only for the sake of

2432
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 1: so so the audience doesn't feel left out. Here it

2433
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:37,360
Speaker 1: is not somebody that the general audience would. Know so

2434
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:40,880
Speaker 1: it was not an on air. Personality ah, okay but

2435
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,000
Speaker 1: you can text me your, guesses but it. Is i'll tell,

2436
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:46,400
Speaker 1: you that's been a house of Horrors. Jacksonville obviously it's

2437
02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:48,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a big one On sunday and a big

2438
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:50,120
Speaker 1: one for The. Colts and we'll see and of course.

2439
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:52,840
Speaker 1: Here what, Happens matt is we will be listening to

2440
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 1: the game safe travels. Obviously all, right.

2441
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 3: All, RIGHT i appreciate.

2442
02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:58,000
Speaker 11: You Jake, Man i'll talk to you next.

2443
02:04:58,040 --> 02:05:01,080
Speaker 1: Week pace Yourself on the night Before Matt taylor joining

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02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 1: us on the job house Pilling port GUEST, i we'll come.

2445
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Speaker 1: Back we'll do the crossover WITH jvc when he's got lined.

2446
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 1: Up we'll do it next loaded show. Today thank You

2447
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:15,160
Speaker 1: eddie for lining everybody, up no. Problem Rt, Lewis Tim,

2448
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:18,840
Speaker 1: May Matt, taylor And paris was on the. Program Tony

2449
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 1: east kind of covered. Everything tomorrow will be a lot

2450
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:24,440
Speaker 1: of talk about The Big Ten championship game and then

2451
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:27,320
Speaker 1: continuing to Talk Colts. Jaggs we'll go down To jacksonville

2452
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:31,240
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2463
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Speaker 12: RIGHT i love it down, Here, jake when's the last

2464
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:09,680
Speaker 12: time you've been To? Columbus, honestly you And Tony stewart

2465
02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:11,000
Speaker 12: come down here and hang out back in the.

2466
02:06:11,080 --> 02:06:12,920
Speaker 1: Day, YEAH i was gonna look at the property and

2467
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,440
Speaker 1: make me make an. OFFER i used to the last

2468
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:18,120
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2469
02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:21,000
Speaker 1: if this gives you an. IDEA i used to love

2470
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:22,800
Speaker 1: to go to that Old Holo dome that had like

2471
02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:25,120
Speaker 1: the nineteen twenties field that was right off of sixty.

2472
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:25,840
Speaker 1: Five that's been a.

2473
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:28,640
Speaker 12: WHILE i love A Holo. DOME i was always The

2474
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 12: Jasper indian A Holo. DOME i tore that place. Up

2475
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:34,640
Speaker 12: Astra Turf Hi Ball machines. Video you ever get out

2476
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 12: of the pool and you're, wet and you go over

2477
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 12: and play asteroids and try not to shock, yourself but

2478
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:39,800
Speaker 12: you're still.

2479
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,280
Speaker 1: Wet and then like some putt, putt got like a

2480
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Speaker 1: five hole putt putt golf on the astro. Door, yeah

2481
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:44,720
Speaker 1: it was.

2482
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:52,240
Speaker 12: Great Downtown columbus is, awesome obviously the worldwide home Of cummings.

2483
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:54,600
Speaker 12: Too so my invitation is out to the folks just

2484
02:06:54,680 --> 02:06:57,600
Speaker 12: down the street here At cummins to join. Us but

2485
02:06:57,680 --> 02:06:59,760
Speaker 12: now it is an absolute pleasure to be Here robin

2486
02:06:59,840 --> 02:07:04,839
Speaker 12: and the, garage and we're Downtown columbus making Our week fourteen.

2487
02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 12: SELECTIONS i know That Brown County Music, center a good,

2488
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:11,640
Speaker 12: Friend Christian webb's gonna, Join Mett, goins The TRIPLE a

2489
02:07:11,720 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 12: pre is going to, join AND i Think's Bitcher Thompson thompson.

2490
02:07:15,080 --> 02:07:16,720
Speaker 12: Friends we got a lot of friends joining us that

2491
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:19,400
Speaker 12: we never get down here, enough, Right we're all consistently

2492
02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:21,560
Speaker 12: in and Around, Indy so we get down here and

2493
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:23,720
Speaker 12: a lot of friends that rarely joined us are going

2494
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:25,160
Speaker 12: to join us for the first time in a, while

2495
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 12: which is pretty.

2496
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:28,760
Speaker 1: SWEET i just Saw john the. Field somebody sent us

2497
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:32,000
Speaker 1: a picture of it Of Lucas Oil stadium With, Indiana

2498
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:34,680
Speaker 1: ohio state already in the end. Zones it still feels,

2499
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:36,320
Speaker 1: surrealed does it? Not to think of that.

2500
02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:40,200
Speaker 12: MATCHUP i know it's like somebody make a mistake on this,

2501
02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:43,040
Speaker 12: here weird. Man totally it, IS i, mean and just

2502
02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 12: how recently we felt that. WAY i, mean, hell what

2503
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 12: two years? Ago can you imagine BEFORE. Covid we THINK

2504
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:51,800
Speaker 12: covid turned everything around and turned it upside.

2505
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 3: DOWN i, mean this is one of the good.

2506
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:57,080
Speaker 12: Things between this and you, know me being able to

2507
02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 12: Do fox fifty nine and my underwear in my living,

2508
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:00,320
Speaker 12: room those are two.

2509
02:08:00,280 --> 02:08:02,400
Speaker 3: Really good things that happened AFTER, Covid that's.

2510
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:05,480
Speaker 1: Right, yeah well the latter in, PARTICULAR i, guess, right

2511
02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:07,480
Speaker 1: depending on who you, are all, Right, John so we'll

2512
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:08,560
Speaker 1: throw it out to you in just a couple of

2513
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:10,240
Speaker 1: minutes and you will be give me the name of

2514
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Speaker 1: the Location agett down In columbus where we'll find.

2515
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Speaker 7: You it is the.

2516
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:18,920
Speaker 12: Garage we are Downtown, Columbus, indiana And robin is the

2517
02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 12: owner of The all TV's Great. Food we've got cocktails

2518
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,240
Speaker 12: that are going to be flowing as well with a

2519
02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:30,080
Speaker 12: Heaven Hill distillery here In Bret, holverson Downtown. Columbus we're

2520
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 12: at the, garage so come and join. Us hopefully we

2521
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:35,000
Speaker 12: see everybody down here In Bart county with the heart

2522
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:36,480
Speaker 12: Of Bart County Bartholomew.

2523
02:08:36,520 --> 02:08:38,400
Speaker 1: County all, Right, john we will throw it out to

2524
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:40,320
Speaker 1: you in just a couple of. Minutes got a Pal

2525
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:42,960
Speaker 1: jamb will be with, you carrying you home for the

2526
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:44,440
Speaker 1: rest of the. Day we'll be back with you at noon.

2527
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:46,360
Speaker 1: Tomorrow top Black let's joins us on the program to

2528
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:48,960
Speaker 1: Rock Chris dido as. WELL Jp shadwick will go down

2529
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 1: To jacksonville and Preview colts And jags and look forward to.

2530
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:55,879
Speaker 1: IT i certainly hope all of you stay, warm Enjoy john's,

2531
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 1: program and we will talk to you. Tomorrow thank you

2532
02:08:57,720 --> 02:08:58,840
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