Speaker 1: The frames per second podcast.
Speaker 2: What's going on it's your boy nick i am here
Speaker 2: with i am spike lua the on deck tv show
Speaker 2: and another week in the books how you doing sir
Speaker 2: what up though kenneth bianch hola and the other half
Speaker 2: of the dead end super producer group um well one
Speaker 2: third the other the two thirds. I'm, I'm doing math
Speaker 2: at past eight o'clock or whatever, seven o'clock.
Speaker 3: So it's a bad time for me. Either way.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say we got Jalen, uh, joining us
Speaker 2: once again.
Speaker 4: How you doing, man? I'm good, brother.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Uh, glad to have y'all here. You're tuned into the
Speaker 2: frames for second podcast. And in this episode, we are
Speaker 2: continuing on with our weekly recaps. Uh, I gotta ask you, Ken,
Speaker 2: is it a hit?
Speaker 3: I don't know yet.
Speaker 4: I don't know yet.
Speaker 1: Um, I've seen a lot of conversation, but I haven't
Speaker 1: really checked to see what the response has been yet.
Speaker 4: I'm going to look after this episode, though.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: The pending hit new HBO original series coming from the
Speaker 2: DC universe. I got to clean up some stuff because
Speaker 2: we got some well actuallys on some of the posts
Speaker 2: that I saw for my last episode. But yes, we
Speaker 2: are continuing on with our weekly recaps with the first
Speaker 2: season of Lantern starring Aaron Pierre and Kyle Chandler. uh,
Speaker 2: with this recap being dedicated episode two called trust falls
Speaker 2: or trust fall. Um, so as I was saying, the,
Speaker 2: the will actually is that we got was, this is
Speaker 2: not a part of the DCEU. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: think in episode one, um, that was the Snyder universe.
Speaker 2: This is just the DCU, the DC universe. And, um,
Speaker 2: they also said that we called the, um, I don't
Speaker 2: know what she is, but, um, The sexy grandma on
Speaker 2: this show, they said we called her white.
Speaker 3: I saw that. She's not white.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's the only thing that I see us clearing up.
Speaker 2: Outside of that, we were pretty good.
Speaker 3: We were pretty good.
Speaker 2: Lou, I want to start with you with overall thoughts
Speaker 2: because you weren't on our first recap with us.
Speaker 3: And you're also not really.
Speaker 2: I mean, we already know historically if you've been following
Speaker 2: this program, you know that Lou is not a comic
Speaker 2: book fan at all. Um, so I'm curious to know
Speaker 2: how you got introduced to this and what did you
Speaker 2: think of the first episode and what do you think
Speaker 2: of this one?
Speaker 3: Uh, introduction.
Speaker 5: Jalen was telling me, he sent me the thing that, uh,
Speaker 5: said they took the script from true detective and I
Speaker 5: didn't plan on watching it until I saw that. And
Speaker 5: I figured that would interest me since I had this
Speaker 5: true detective script. I also like Kyle Chandler. Kyle Chandler
Speaker 5: is one of those. We did a list before people
Speaker 5: laughed at me. I said, If he on there, I'm
Speaker 5: tuning into it because his track record is impeccable, Nick.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3: You ain't got to explain it to me.
Speaker 5: You got to talk to them. Yeah, I fucks with
Speaker 5: Kyle Chandler. So that was another reason. And again, just
Speaker 5: reviewing with y'all. So those are the main ones.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: What were your thoughts on the first episode? First episode
Speaker 3: was good. I liked it. I liked that it.
Speaker 5: I wasn't beating the death with lure, like just a
Speaker 5: fair introduction into it. I definitely picked up on the
Speaker 5: True Detective vibe stuff that Jalen had pointed out in
Speaker 5: that article.
Speaker 3: So yeah, a diverse episode definitely worked.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: And what about this second one?
Speaker 5: This one was more, I felt like I was missing
Speaker 5: something on some lure shit when he was talking about
Speaker 5: the people that need to be captured and all this
Speaker 5: different shit, the comic book shit they started doing.
Speaker 3: I felt like I was missing something. I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: No, not really.
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know where the hell they're going
Speaker 3: with it, honestly. But what is that bird thing? We
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, as we go through the review, we'll parse
Speaker 2: through what is known and what is unknown, but it's
Speaker 2: a lot that's unknown, to be honest. But, Jay, what
Speaker 2: were your thoughts on this second episode?
Speaker 3: You on mute. I think we're good, man. I think
Speaker 3: we're in a good spot. I feel that we are.
Speaker 6: Pacing the show very similar to, like Spike said, True Detective.
Speaker 6: So as far as us not getting all the pieces, I'm.
Speaker 4: Fine with that.
Speaker 6: That's why it is interesting for you to say you
Speaker 6: feel like you're missing things. But I guess because of
Speaker 6: your history with comic book shows and films, you're like,
Speaker 6: there's something missing. But really, it's just the pacing of
Speaker 6: the show. Because they're explaining stuff to us, too. But
Speaker 6: we think of lore, they're breaking that down and being like,
Speaker 6: that's not the exact way things are being. So yeah,
Speaker 6: don't think about it too much. Just think of it
Speaker 6: as true detective. But yeah, we definitely are cruise control,
Speaker 6: and I'm here for it. They haven't Just two episodes in,
Speaker 6: but they haven't dropped the ball either way. And the
Speaker 6: trailer for next week even got me more excited, so
Speaker 6: maybe that's what I'm leaning on to.
Speaker 2: I didn't really want to watch it because I like
Speaker 2: going in blind, so I saw little bits of it,
Speaker 2: but I'm just going in blind.
Speaker 3: What about you, Ken? What was your overall thoughts?
Speaker 4: I love this episode.
Speaker 1: We did get a little bit more superhero shit. just
Speaker 1: a little bit, though. Not enough, I think, to take
Speaker 1: people out, but I do understand what Spike was thinking
Speaker 1: about when he was watching it, so I do understand that,
Speaker 1: but nah. I think with this one, Spike, for me,
Speaker 1: when I'm watching, we're kind of on the same page,
Speaker 1: because I've read issues of Green Lantern here and there,
Speaker 1: but I didn't follow the series, so there are a
Speaker 1: lot of things that that I'm unfamiliar with. So I'm
Speaker 1: very much kind of in the blind with some aspects
Speaker 1: of it as well.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I really enjoyed this episode.
Speaker 1: I think they took it up just a little bit
Speaker 1: and they gave us just enough action and they moved
Speaker 1: the story forward in a really meaningful way. And I
Speaker 1: agree with Jalen. I think the pacing, you know, second
Speaker 1: episode in is really good. They could have spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time just doing unnecessary bullshit. But I felt
Speaker 1: like most of the scenes that we got really did matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a fan of the show. I'm a fan
Speaker 3: of the show.
Speaker 2: It starts off with, there's multiple things I want to
Speaker 2: kind of get to before we dive in, but first
Speaker 2: and foremost, Kyle Chandler needs his flowers, Lou. I promise you,
Speaker 2: I promise you, people think we gassing him up, but
Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you, bro, like, he, I don't
Speaker 2: know why he hasn't been a big movie star or whatever,
Speaker 2: but He can, the biggest movie I think he's been
Speaker 2: in was Wolf of Wall Street when he was playing
Speaker 2: the detective.
Speaker 3: But, um, he dominated though. Yeah. I mean, but that
Speaker 3: was like TV. That was like 15 years ago with
Speaker 3: Friday night. Like that was a long time ago.
Speaker 2: So if you weren't around at that time, like the
Speaker 2: stuff that he has been doing since then hasn't got
Speaker 2: that much attention, but either way, I'm glad he's on
Speaker 2: this show. He's doing it justice. Ken and Jay, they
Speaker 2: know I always have these conversations about who's next up.
Speaker 2: I think this show is indicating that they're trying to
Speaker 2: make Aaron Pierre one.
Speaker 4: Of them ones.
Speaker 3: He's not bad.
Speaker 2: He's not bad at all. He's a great Jon Stewart
Speaker 2: so far. But we'll see where he goes from here
Speaker 2: because he doesn't have... He got some stuff that he's
Speaker 2: done that you could put on his resume, like with
Speaker 2: The Lion King and with Rebel Ridge, but... I'm trying
Speaker 2: to see where this show is, like, where his career
Speaker 2: is at after this. Is he possibly the next Denzel
Speaker 2: that they're trying to cue up?
Speaker 3: Why are you keeping... I'm just saying.
Speaker 4: Black.
Speaker 3: What is he doing? Don't do that.
Speaker 4: I will say this.
Speaker 5: I'm glad they put him in this because that Ridge
Speaker 5: movie had me thinking he was terrible.
Speaker 3: But he's actually good in this. Yeah, I've seen him in...
Speaker 3: He was in, what's the show we watch on Happo?
Speaker 3: Don't say Morning Show. Yeah, he was on that. He
Speaker 3: sure was in Morning Show. He was a movie. He was,
Speaker 3: but he wasn't.
Speaker 2: But he gets treated like a concubine, like a glorified
Speaker 2: concubine in most of the shows because you know the
Speaker 2: ladies like him. But that's what I'm saying. What else
Speaker 2: is there besides that is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: It was being a new Star Wars movie.
Speaker 6: And he's supposed to come back as Jon Stewart in
Speaker 6: the Superman movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the superhero stuff he got.
Speaker 2: Uh, down pat, especially when you, you know, once you
Speaker 2: sign up for one of these, you're going to be
Speaker 2: in like five of them. But like outside of that,
Speaker 2: like what else fanfare is he bringing like attention to?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm curious about moving forward with him based
Speaker 2: off this TV show. Um, but getting it, but overall,
Speaker 2: I love, I love this series so far. I'm actually
Speaker 2: fine with not, like you said, Jalen, not knowing anything
Speaker 2: and letting it be week to week. You know, like
Speaker 2: I don't want to really research too much because, again,
Speaker 2: I read the comics. I'm not especially if there is
Speaker 2: a comic arc with this story, I'm not familiar with
Speaker 2: it at all.
Speaker 3: So I'm fine with just going in blind.
Speaker 2: But I'm liking everything that I see so far, especially
Speaker 2: with how they followed up with the first episode.
Speaker 3: Any other thoughts before we dive in?
Speaker 2: OK, we start off this episode with Hal Jordan waking
Speaker 2: up Jon Stewart with a.
Speaker 3: Ice bucket challenge, cold water, wake up call.
Speaker 2: And they learn, you know, following up from the first
Speaker 2: episode where John was like, you didn't teach me how
Speaker 2: to fly yet. Now we're doing impromptu. flight training. Ken,
Speaker 2: what did you think about how we started off this
Speaker 2: episode with this flight training?
Speaker 1: I probably laughed way too hard at that then I
Speaker 1: should have. Him trying to fly and the way he
Speaker 1: looked up and his face and everything. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know why I But that shit was funny to me.
Speaker 4: Because I knew it wasn't going to work. You know, and.
Speaker 1: But I also, in the back of my mind, it
Speaker 1: was a small percentage of like, okay, well, maybe it
Speaker 1: would work. But I thought it was interesting that he
Speaker 1: conjured up a bird that can fly. So his mouth
Speaker 1: was in the right place, but the rest of him wasn't.
Speaker 1: So I thought that that was funny. But there's still
Speaker 1: some reluctance with him to.
Speaker 4: Teach him anything.
Speaker 1: So, but yet Jon Stewart is able to do things
Speaker 1: that catches him off guard and impresses him. So he
Speaker 1: challenges him to push himself further, well, push himself more
Speaker 1: than he probably would have normally by having him keep
Speaker 1: that bird alive for 48 hours. So it's like he
Speaker 1: sees something in him, but He ain't really trying to
Speaker 1: fuck with him too much.
Speaker 4: But no, I liked it.
Speaker 1: I think it was a good way to kind of
Speaker 1: start the show back up with a little comedy.
Speaker 3: What about you, Lou? Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 5: I like Ken, enjoyed seeing him putting all his effort
Speaker 5: in trying to flatten it down where that shit wasn't
Speaker 5: going to work. Yeah, I thought this was good. And
Speaker 5: I like how the two characters are playing off each other.
Speaker 5: How he keep fucking with him with the sir stuff.
Speaker 5: And then, like, he also was fucking with him with
Speaker 5: different things.
Speaker 3: So I liked the dynamic.
Speaker 2: Jay, you're familiar with Lantern lore at least a little bit, right?
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Were you impressed by him being able to, like, because
Speaker 2: the bird plays a big focal, it's a big focal
Speaker 2: point in this episode.
Speaker 3: Were you impressed by that at all?
Speaker 2: Did that mean anything to you, that he was able
Speaker 2: to conjure up something that, lasted longer than him not
Speaker 2: even having the ring and the ring on low battery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, like the ring is tied to
Speaker 3: like willpower.
Speaker 6: And so based off what I know from Lord and
Speaker 6: with it being at like a lower percentage that takes
Speaker 6: even more willpower and we haven't seen him really use
Speaker 6: the ring outside of him creating a bubble to save himself.
Speaker 6: So to have him create, like creatively make a construct
Speaker 6: was impressive to see.
Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure you better get into it.
Speaker 6: I was wondering how the shit was still around when
Speaker 6: he was.
Speaker 3: Not playing anymore.
Speaker 6: I was like, that shit bothered me the whole, I'm
Speaker 6: not going to lie, it bothered me the whole episode.
Speaker 3: I'm like, how?
Speaker 6: And I mean, even though I didn't know Hal, and
Speaker 6: I know that Hal basically said that if you break concentration,
Speaker 6: it'll go away. So I know that's what the theme
Speaker 6: was throughout the episode. But I was like, how is
Speaker 6: this shit still around if he ain't got the ring?
Speaker 6: It just kept bothering me.
Speaker 1: Like, how?
Speaker 3: It wasn't even just that.
Speaker 2: Because this goes to a point that I'm about to
Speaker 2: bring up that, Lou, you brought up, like, I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm missing stuff.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's, like. So with us, for those
Speaker 3: who read the comics, Jay's right.
Speaker 2: I've never seen a lantern not only wear somebody else's
Speaker 2: ring and conjure up something, but to have it, like,
Speaker 2: to give the ring back and then still have that
Speaker 2: projection there That's not in anything I've read. So me
Speaker 2: and you on the same page, Lou, as far as
Speaker 2: what the hell is going on, how is this happening?
Speaker 3: But the impressive part.
Speaker 2: From what we got in this episode, and again, we'll
Speaker 2: dive more into it later, is the fact that, to
Speaker 2: your point, Jay, his concentration was that he's keeping it
Speaker 2: subconsciously active.
Speaker 3: Even when he knocked out. Because he got knocked out
Speaker 3: about two, three times in this episode.
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking it's going to go away because he's unconscious,
Speaker 2: but the fact that his subconscious.
Speaker 3: Is still working.
Speaker 2: means that he's one of the most powerful dancers in
Speaker 2: the universe. He's a chosen one, Louis, is what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to say.
Speaker 6: Nick, after getting his ass beat, getting knocked out twice...
Speaker 6: getting his ass beat and all that and the bird
Speaker 6: didn't go away. When he's in the bar, though, I
Speaker 6: was like, oh, they about to show this is weakness.
Speaker 2: I thought for sure that bird was done for, boy.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: We gonna get to that because I still have questions
Speaker 2: because can they doing us dirty when it comes to
Speaker 2: love interest for our A-listers? We gonna get into that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so since John Can't Fly, which I was
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 3: Surprised he couldn't based.
Speaker 2: On all the stuff that he knows and he's able
Speaker 2: to do but it's kind of like what they say
Speaker 2: is like reading about a car is different than driving
Speaker 2: a car so it's like i think that's what they're
Speaker 2: trying to say like because how is like bro i'm
Speaker 2: a pilot flying is second nature to me for you
Speaker 2: it's just different you're a military guy so since uh
Speaker 2: john can't fly how gives him a plane ticket to
Speaker 2: head back to his crib so he can get his
Speaker 2: lantern to recharge his ring because it's on low battery
Speaker 2: life what we learned in the first episode during that
Speaker 2: interrogation scene Lou, this reminds me of some shit the
Speaker 2: hood niggas do.
Speaker 3: We run it low on gas. We send somebody else
Speaker 3: out to go get the gas. Take the car, go
Speaker 3: get the gas.
Speaker 2: And then when he banged the ring on the car,
Speaker 2: just say, that's how you juice it up for a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 3: You need to read it a little bit. Like get
Speaker 3: the batteries together. Exactly.
Speaker 2: Put the batteries in the freezer. This hit home for
Speaker 2: me because I just upgraded my iPhone. I was dealing
Speaker 2: with an iPhone XS. for the last yeah since it
Speaker 2: came out.
Speaker 3: I had to i got it i got a 17
Speaker 3: now but.
Speaker 6: I'm disappointed in you upgrading before the new one came
Speaker 6: out that's 17 price about to go.
Speaker 2: Down well i had to come for my well the
Speaker 2: reason why i was jay because it was like i'm
Speaker 2: doing like to charge my phone. Cause it doesn't charge
Speaker 2: when you just put the phone on the charger. Like
Speaker 2: I got to do like a goddamn, I got to
Speaker 2: do like an animal.
Speaker 3: And no one can touch it. Don't breathe on it.
Speaker 3: Don't do nothing. Cause it's going to lose it. I'm
Speaker 3: doing balloon animals just to get this thing charged up.
Speaker 3: So I was like, bro, I can't do this. I
Speaker 3: can't do it.
Speaker 2: I got too much going on. I'm about to be
Speaker 2: moving and all that. I was like, nah, let me
Speaker 2: just go ahead. Cause that's what they told me at
Speaker 2: the store. They was like, if you wait, it's going
Speaker 2: to drop a hundred dollars when the 18 or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't care about that. This 17 is
Speaker 2: going to last me another 10 years. So, I'll wait
Speaker 2: until the 20th.
Speaker 3: They ain't built like that no more. I mean, Nick,
Speaker 3: you can say that all you want. They ain't built
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: They just sunset the X in 2020, this year.
Speaker 6: That ain't what we talking about. These new ones, the
Speaker 6: battered bread, just continue, dog.
Speaker 2: I still got my old one, though, nonetheless. But either way,
Speaker 2: Hal sends John on a random mission to go get
Speaker 2: his lantern. Which in the lure loo, this is somewhat common.
Speaker 2: The lantern ain't never close to the ring.
Speaker 3: They treat the.
Speaker 2: Lantern like it's a spare tire, essentially.
Speaker 3: You need it when you need it, but you ain't
Speaker 3: really trying to lug it around.
Speaker 6: Nah they should end down cause a spare tire stay
Speaker 6: in the car them niggas treat like a bluetooth speaker
Speaker 6: but yeah so Lou so far cause I again I
Speaker 6: wanna get your thoughts on this series especially with the
Speaker 6: character that you with the actor of the character that
Speaker 6: you really like what do you think of Hal Jordan
Speaker 6: so far in this series like what do you think
Speaker 6: about his character as a mentor specifically.
Speaker 3: As a mentor he trash.
Speaker 5: But I think he doing it on purpose I don't
Speaker 5: know if it's like how his character is written somewhere else,
Speaker 5: but essentially you can pick up that he's trying to
Speaker 5: let him fall on his face and learn that way
Speaker 5: versus being a micromanager and making him do everything. So
Speaker 5: I like how that plays into the dynamic of each other.
Speaker 5: He's kind of like a smartass. And then my guy,
Speaker 5: he being a smartass back to him. So it adds a,
Speaker 5: not even a comedic element, but just a sharp, a
Speaker 5: sharpness to it that I think works for the series.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Um, before we go check in on John's side mission, uh,
Speaker 2: we see how go back to the high school football
Speaker 2: field where all the murderers took place in episode one.
Speaker 2: And he's still investigating what's going on. He's, he's looking
Speaker 2: at the grass, the blood on the field. He's looking
Speaker 2: at everything, the metal detectors. Um, but as he's going
Speaker 2: into town or around town, he notices that ain't no
Speaker 2: one really outside. And that may be due because there
Speaker 2: was an explosion just a few days earlier. But he
Speaker 2: notices that all these people are at this town hall meeting.
Speaker 2: He busts in and tries to see what's going on. Jay,
Speaker 2: what did you take away from the town hall meeting
Speaker 2: that Hal interrupted?
Speaker 3: This nigga just don't give a fuck. He really don't
Speaker 3: give a fuck.
Speaker 6: But there's an arrogance to him, a confidence that he
Speaker 6: has about the work that he's doing.
Speaker 3: I still don't know if that's a positive or negative yet.
Speaker 6: He hasn't really been proven wrong in most of the
Speaker 6: things that he's been doing, so it seems like it's
Speaker 6: a positive. But for some reason, the show is giving
Speaker 6: me this feel that it's going to come back to
Speaker 6: bite him in the ass. But so far, the arrogance
Speaker 6: that he has is showing how seasoned he is, how
Speaker 6: much he is attached to the position, and even more
Speaker 6: reasons on why he really doesn't want John around. I
Speaker 6: don't think he wants John around because John being around
Speaker 6: is just a reminder of, I.
Speaker 3: Have to give this up eventually, and I don't really
Speaker 3: want to give this shit up.
Speaker 6: But overall, everything they're giving us and showing us is
Speaker 6: that he knows what the fuck he's doing.
Speaker 3: It's just he's older.
Speaker 6: I thought he was going to hurt something when his
Speaker 6: ass died.
Speaker 4: On his ass.
Speaker 6: I thought his name was going to show him being
Speaker 6: hurt for the rest of the episode. He got hurt
Speaker 6: another way, but I fuck with this scene as far
Speaker 6: as him going into the meeting.
Speaker 3: Ken, what was your thoughts on the town hall meeting?
Speaker 4: I don't know if they were necessarily... talking.
Speaker 1: About him, but I do think they were, but in
Speaker 1: what way, I'm not exactly sure. There's something fishy about
Speaker 1: that town and reflecting back and the scenes that come,
Speaker 1: you know, something doesn't seem right. You know, they were
Speaker 1: definitely concerned, but I think the other thing that really
Speaker 1: caught my attention was the lawyer. the attorney that came
Speaker 1: there and sat beside him. And really, it sounds like
Speaker 1: they're just trying to get him the hell away from there.
Speaker 1: And that's why he was like, look, you're free to go.
Speaker 1: And what, you're going to leave, what, tomorrow? You know, tonight? Like,
Speaker 1: when are you going to bounce? Like, you have no charges.
Speaker 1: Everything's white, clean. You don't even owe me any money.
Speaker 1: We just need you to leave because you're interrupting this
Speaker 1: town And we need to get back to a sense of,
Speaker 1: of normalcy.
Speaker 4: So, um, so that, that's, that's kind of what I
Speaker 4: took from that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: For me, I first can, cause now I'm like, cause
Speaker 2: once you introduce the idea of aliens and their quote
Speaker 2: unquote invasion, especially from how the first episode ended, it's like,
Speaker 2: all right, it's the whole town aliens is what you think.
Speaker 2: Cause like when he first was approaching, it sounded like
Speaker 2: they were talking in a different language. Um, And then
Speaker 2: until he busted in and everybody was like, OK, we
Speaker 2: got to talk regular now. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: it could just be like muffled, you know, our perspective
Speaker 2: of just hearing muffled voices.
Speaker 3: But but I do feel like.
Speaker 2: There is a weird reason for why they wanted him
Speaker 2: there in one place or like at one point in time.
Speaker 3: And now they just want him gone. So, and I
Speaker 3: like how he understands that too. And he's like, you
Speaker 3: know what?
Speaker 2: I'm going to be an asshole and I'm going to
Speaker 2: just stick around anyway, just to see what y'all got
Speaker 2: going on. It's kind of like how I feel like
Speaker 2: a parent when they know their kid is up to something,
Speaker 2: but the kid is like trying to get them out.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, sometimes a kid, you know, this,
Speaker 2: they're trying to get you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You'd be like, hold on, let me just see what
Speaker 2: you up to. Cause I don't trust why you, why
Speaker 2: you want me to leave the room? Why you want
Speaker 2: me to leave the house? Why you want me to
Speaker 2: go to work on time? What you got going on?
Speaker 2: So I found that interesting. But Lou, A little bit
Speaker 2: after that, we see Hal working the case, not necessarily
Speaker 2: as a lantern, but just as a cop, as a
Speaker 2: B cop. What did you think about how he discovered
Speaker 2: how the aliens were detected by the metal detectors?
Speaker 3: It was clever.
Speaker 5: Like you said, Jalen said earlier, the pacing is really good.
Speaker 5: So him walking through the metal detectors and us thinking
Speaker 5: they're metal detectors, then they're not going off.
Speaker 3: Okay, then what they detect him.
Speaker 5: I still didn't put together it was aliens until they
Speaker 5: said something about it. I didn't know what it was. But, again,
Speaker 5: they pieced it together well. They didn't leave you hanging
Speaker 5: too long, but it was just suspenseful enough.
Speaker 3: You're like, what he got going on? And in his method, too,
Speaker 3: of how he's doing it.
Speaker 5: Like, I'm going to get the bodies and just doing
Speaker 5: it as unconventional as he was doing it. And he
Speaker 5: didn't have to dog my man's rental car like that either.
Speaker 5: Even when he turned into the school. Even when he
Speaker 5: turned into the school, he was on three wheels in
Speaker 5: that man's rental car. He dogged his rental, bro.
Speaker 2: He drove that rental into the middle of the street
Speaker 2: and just stopped.
Speaker 3: He just parked it.
Speaker 5: He dogged his dude real, bro.
Speaker 3: Make sure you go look at the insurance policy. Make
Speaker 3: sure you look at the insurance policy. Listen, listen.
Speaker 2: As someone who's had a lot of rental cars in
Speaker 2: his past, present, and future. This is like a nightmare
Speaker 2: for me. Especially with later on with.
Speaker 3: John inspecting the rental and all that.
Speaker 2: He was hot. He was hot. But Ken, to the
Speaker 2: show's credit, because sometimes I wonder, I'm like, bro, these
Speaker 2: are intergalactic powerful beings. Again, in terms of House of
Speaker 2: the Dragon, the ring is like a dragon. You can
Speaker 2: kind of do anything with it essentially or like wield
Speaker 2: a godlike power amongst you know humans but they this
Speaker 2: show is great at explaining why he can't use the
Speaker 2: ring or why he doesn't use the ring i think
Speaker 2: in the first episode he said like it's a if
Speaker 2: and when kind of situation you don't want to get
Speaker 2: too loose with it but in this one it's like
Speaker 2: the ring's battery life is low i can't even fly
Speaker 2: so i have to manually do all these things that
Speaker 2: i probably could just do with the ring so i
Speaker 2: like the fact that like the show in a way
Speaker 2: that's very logical to kind of get you to be like,
Speaker 2: why is this man.
Speaker 3: Dragging these dead bodies around? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: And again, Lou, that goes to the lore of like, yes,
Speaker 2: he could do a bunch of different things, but this
Speaker 2: show is trying to keep it as grounded as possible
Speaker 2: in a practical way.
Speaker 5: So the ring give him power to do damn near anything.
Speaker 2: It's based off your thought, yeah. It's your willpower and
Speaker 2: whatever you can think of. So the concentration is the willpower.
Speaker 2: The imagination is based off of, you know, you can
Speaker 2: create whatever goofy thing you want to or dangerous thing.
Speaker 2: But again, it works like an iPhone. It's like you
Speaker 2: got to be charged. Otherwise, you can't do nothing.
Speaker 3: And they're more than one of these, right? Like it's
Speaker 3: different ones that he's on different planets. It's like police.
Speaker 3: It's like cops.
Speaker 2: There's a cop everywhere in every state, every city. There's
Speaker 2: Green Lanterns on every planet in every universe. At least
Speaker 2: the ones that we are aware of.
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Speaker 2: Well, as we get into it, while politely being asked
Speaker 2: to leave town by the Macon family from the town
Speaker 2: hall meeting, we see Hal get a call from John
Speaker 2: as he has to leave the town hall to take
Speaker 2: the call because John arrived at his crib and he's
Speaker 2: at his house wondering where the key's at. Jalen, what
Speaker 2: did you think of this submission of John's? and what
Speaker 2: was going on at Hal's house and all the things
Speaker 2: he found out.
Speaker 6: Well I mean it did say a lot about about
Speaker 6: how as far as like him not having no furniture
Speaker 6: anything in there um cause I was wondering too I was.
Speaker 3: Like how the fuck this nigga got a house like this.
Speaker 6: That was what I was thinking to myself too when
Speaker 6: John asked that question I was like I seen what
Speaker 6: kind of car this nigga pulled up in in the
Speaker 6: first episode but it's the kind of house he got
Speaker 6: something ain't right something ain't right so Yeah, but this
Speaker 6: dummy mission, bro, I would have been frustrated. John better
Speaker 6: than me, dog. I would have been that totalist white man, man.
Speaker 6: Fuck off, nigga. I would have took that damn ring
Speaker 6: off his finger. Especially when I know that it's dying.
Speaker 6: I'm just going to wait until it dies. I'm going
Speaker 6: to beat your ass and take the ring, nigga. You
Speaker 6: can't do shit with it. That shit die, nigga, you mine.
Speaker 3: You can't, bro. You know the little guardians are going
Speaker 3: to say something about that.
Speaker 4: I don't care, man. Fuck all that.
Speaker 6: They told me I'm supposed to have it and you
Speaker 6: over here bullshitting and sending me on some mission to
Speaker 6: fuck with these, this fake ass plant.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell going on. But the
Speaker 3: overall scene was just revealing more about how.
Speaker 6: I feel like we're learning a lot more about how
Speaker 6: than John at this point, which is fine. It's not
Speaker 6: like a bad thing at all. because Jon Stewart is
Speaker 6: just showing that he's a good soldier. That's all that
Speaker 6: we're getting from him. We're not really getting too much
Speaker 6: of his development of why he is the way he is,
Speaker 6: why he potentially can be as strong as he is.
Speaker 3: But they are giving us a lot about how without.
Speaker 6: Throwing it in our face and having to do flashbacks
Speaker 6: to understand who he is.
Speaker 4: As a person.
Speaker 6: But it just shows how lonely of a person he
Speaker 6: is to have that big of a house and have
Speaker 6: nothing in it. And the reasoning behind getting it is just.
Speaker 3: It also shows a little bit of a.
Speaker 3: Not the kindness, but the respect for people he has.
Speaker 6: Because, like, I told him to buy me a house
Speaker 6: so he wouldn't feel, like, demasculated because I saved his son.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Like, man, I would have been like, all right, nigga.
Speaker 6: Especially if I'm not going to use the house. All right, nigga,
Speaker 6: deal with your feelings, bro.
Speaker 4: Fuck that.
Speaker 3: I don't need you to.
Speaker 6: I ain't make you feel no better because I saved
Speaker 6: your son. I saved your son, nigga, and that was it. But, yeah,
Speaker 6: those are my thoughts.
Speaker 2: You ain't never been off of the mansion, though. This
Speaker 2: ain't no townhome in Latonia.
Speaker 3: No, he didn't say he was off. He didn't say
Speaker 3: he was off.
Speaker 6: He said he let him buy it. It's like he
Speaker 6: did it just to make him feel better. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying? And I get what you're saying. It'd
Speaker 6: be different. I would want it. And then I would
Speaker 6: make sure my shit is decked out. You know, as
Speaker 6: a matter of fact, I would have made that nigga
Speaker 6: pay for my shit to be decked out. I made
Speaker 6: sure he had a car on today. Like, I made
Speaker 6: sure all that was was there. But he didn't even
Speaker 6: want the house. He has nothing.
Speaker 3: He named the pictures up in his house. He's all
Speaker 3: he has is a bed. That's it. He had some pictures.
Speaker 3: He had some pictures in the house. But they not
Speaker 3: hung up. Right there on the ground. The pictures were
Speaker 3: on the ground. That's how little he cares about the
Speaker 3: house and having that building. Lou, what was your thoughts
Speaker 3: on the side mission John was on?
Speaker 5: One, I was wondering why he sent them on these
Speaker 5: dummy missions. But I guess they had to get separate
Speaker 5: screen time to kind of establish themselves as separate characters.
Speaker 3: So I get that. Two, about the house. Like, just
Speaker 3: what Jalen said. I'm like, man, how the fuck you
Speaker 3: get this house?
Speaker 5: That was the first thing that I wondered. So I'm
Speaker 5: glad they stated that on screen. And I like the
Speaker 5: reasoning behind what he gave him to it. I was
Speaker 5: wondering about the little box thing. I didn't know what
Speaker 5: that was. The infinity box or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 3: You call it. It's a pocket dimension.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hmm. Yeah, that sounds crazy. Hey, Luke, you can't stick
Speaker 3: anything in there. That's all I'm trying to say. Because
Speaker 3: you don't know what's inside of that thing. You don't
Speaker 3: know what's inside of that one.
Speaker 6: I think that's a theme for James Gunn, too, in
Speaker 6: this universe. He's really going to do the fantastical shit.
Speaker 6: That was in Superman. He don't really care about being
Speaker 6: too grounded. He's like, bro, we're going to go there
Speaker 6: if we need to go there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I got from him. Ken, what did
Speaker 2: you think about his scene with Earl?
Speaker 1: Well, he's in there playing dress-up like a girl putting
Speaker 1: that uniform up to him.
Speaker 4: He really wants that damn uniform.
Speaker 3: Hey, bro, he been.
Speaker 2: Hey, the way he looked was, yeah, it was like
Speaker 2: a wedding day. You know, you get your wedding dress
Speaker 2: and the girls, seeing how much weight they got to lose.
Speaker 3: Hey, he was, he was fiending. Hey, first day of
Speaker 3: school outfit, man. These niggas don't know. When I come
Speaker 3: to the.
Speaker 6: School rocking this shit, nigga, I'm going to kill.
Speaker 3: All the hoes. Niggas don't know, bruh. Just wait until
Speaker 3: that school bus pull up, nigga. He was sizing up
Speaker 3: the suit like, hey, bruh, I can put this on
Speaker 3: right now. And he lied down when he brought it
Speaker 3: back because I brought it back for you. Nah, nigga,
Speaker 3: you can put that shit on. Bring this shit with me, nigga.
Speaker 4: Fuck that. Yeah, that shit was funny. But no, this
Speaker 4: was cool, though.
Speaker 1: You're getting a little bit more Spiro shit, the lantern,
Speaker 1: the pocket dimension. Again, just in real small bursts to satisfy,
Speaker 1: you know, Lancer's fan or come book people.
Speaker 4: But I feel like not enough to throw off people.
Speaker 1: That's just that's there for the storytelling and and or
Speaker 1: there's just watching and or becoming familiar with it. So
Speaker 1: I liked it. And, you know, it was another way
Speaker 1: for them to introduce what it set up. Uh, but he,
Speaker 1: he needs, is he as military? Cause they snuck up
Speaker 1: on him.
Speaker 5: Well, this, as we move on, it's so obvious to
Speaker 5: knew he was going to get snuck up on.
Speaker 3: Um, let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Cause shortly after retrieving the lantern, we see John gets
Speaker 2: jumped by some aliens disguised as white boys and things
Speaker 2: get interesting after that. Um, Ken, that's the reason why
Speaker 2: I think it was... You don't expect to get jumped
Speaker 2: at a superhero's house. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2: And also, they're aliens, too. So, I'm giving them the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt that they was probably... You couldn't
Speaker 2: hear them. They're not, like, heavy-footed like humans are. But,
Speaker 2: to your point, he's in training to be a super cop, essentially.
Speaker 2: And he been... There's certain points of him where I'm
Speaker 2: very impressed with him. There's other times I'm like, bro, you.
Speaker 2: You ain't know to look around. You just got done
Speaker 2: feeding the alien. You don't look around to see what
Speaker 2: else is around the corner.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Where they hiding it?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of open space in that mansion.
Speaker 3: It was. It was. But let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Lou, what were your thoughts on this interrogation scene, which
Speaker 2: is different than the one we saw in episode one
Speaker 2: when John gets snatched up?
Speaker 3: Uh, by the aliens. I thought this was good.
Speaker 5: This added to the, though, this was, uh, the place
Speaker 5: where I thought that I was missing someone. They use
Speaker 5: a little gun thing and I guess read his mind. Uh,
Speaker 5: it was good to see my boy, uh, from the wire. Um, damn,
Speaker 5: there was, there was interviewing.
Speaker 2: I remember him from somewhere else. I knew, I was like,
Speaker 2: he's not on, he wasn't on Snowfall. That was a
Speaker 2: different guy.
Speaker 3: It was The Wire. It was The Wire. He was
Speaker 3: the Greek partner. He was the Greek partner. The dude
Speaker 3: that was running for the Greek. He played all this
Speaker 3: stuff too. He's one of those. Yeah, he's been in
Speaker 3: a lot of other stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was good to see this and him
Speaker 5: not believing them, them making him believer with that little
Speaker 5: gun thing. Then it coming back up later. So yeah, again,
Speaker 5: I'm all the way in as to It's not overhanded.
Speaker 5: I don't feel lost to anything like that, but it's
Speaker 5: very intriguing from scene to scene to be like, okay, well,
Speaker 5: what's going on here? So I liked it in this
Speaker 5: interrogation scene, too, when they was using the little gun thing.
Speaker 2: Ken, what was your thoughts when we get to hear
Speaker 2: or see how they introduced Manhunters in this show and
Speaker 2: this now universe?
Speaker 4: It was really good.
Speaker 1: I really liked this whole scene. I didn't know who
Speaker 1: they were when they first showed up until they started talking. So,
Speaker 1: you know, when they said Manhunter, you know, that definitely
Speaker 1: caught my attention. So I'm like, oh, okay, so that's
Speaker 1: what we're adding to the show. Somehow, someway, they're either
Speaker 1: going to be the, well, I guess it sounds like
Speaker 1: they're going to be the villains. But, well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know about that either. And maybe we'll see.
Speaker 4: Because why get his help?
Speaker 1: So I don't know what they're doing with this, especially
Speaker 1: if a lantern brought one there. And then it sounds
Speaker 1: like the lantern killed the other one.
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: But this was really interesting. What did he see when
Speaker 1: he put the gun to his head? And how terrifying
Speaker 1: was that?
Speaker 4: And what will be Jon Stewart's next step?
Speaker 1: But for all intents and purposes, it definitely sounds like
Speaker 1: we have an enemy now. And I was also thinking
Speaker 1: about that scene where he was riding around with basically
Speaker 1: almost like a weekend at Bernie's with all them dead
Speaker 1: bodies in the car. And how when he dragged them
Speaker 1: all through that thing, it's like, well, I know we'll
Speaker 1: get into it later, but yeah, I'll say that for later.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this was really interesting because now we don't
Speaker 1: have to wait and guess. Now we have just enough
Speaker 1: to be like, okay, now what are we going to
Speaker 1: do with that and moving forward?
Speaker 4: So I really liked this scene.
Speaker 5: Do y'all know what Manhunters are? And that's what you're
Speaker 5: saying to that kid? Or is this just you saying
Speaker 5: they introduced a villain?
Speaker 3: No, we, we, I'm sorry. Can he ask you?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we do know who they are though.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Gotcha.
Speaker 2: But there, and this is what I was going to
Speaker 2: talk to Jay about. Cause Jay, you got me rewatching
Speaker 2: Justice League, the animated series. And they do an introduction
Speaker 2: to a Manhunter that is famous in DC lore. His
Speaker 2: name is, his name is Martian, the Manhunter as his
Speaker 2: superhero name, but his name is, he got two first names,
Speaker 2: John Johns, whatever. But his backstory is very different than
Speaker 2: how they're trying to introduce him in this, introduce not
Speaker 2: only him, but his people in this show. Jay, what
Speaker 2: were your thoughts on like that introduction and how different
Speaker 2: it was from what you.
Speaker 4: What we know?
Speaker 6: If I'm honest, man, I'm not 100% sure that I
Speaker 6: remember exactly what happened in Justice League. I think I
Speaker 6: have a visual of what the Manhunters were, and it
Speaker 6: was different. But I wasn't connecting it then. The only
Speaker 6: thing that I connected was what you said was Martian Manhunter,
Speaker 6: and I was just thinking about him. But it was
Speaker 6: a little bit different in my mind. I can't remember.
Speaker 6: I can't connect the dots completely right now in my brain.
Speaker 6: So when I got this introduction, I was more so
Speaker 6: trying to uh just follow along what they were giving
Speaker 6: because like they already broke the rule that i knew
Speaker 6: in my head at the beginning of the episodes i
Speaker 6: was just sitting in the episode as far as seeing
Speaker 6: what other whatever they were going to give us because
Speaker 6: the rules i was already taking in the expectation that
Speaker 6: rules are allowed to be broken so no need for
Speaker 6: me to overthink characters that i know because i'm not
Speaker 6: deep into lore either so i don't know When I
Speaker 6: think about Marvel characters, I know the basic outline of
Speaker 6: what makes the character themselves. So when you differentiate from
Speaker 6: different stuff, it's okay if you still keep the essence
Speaker 6: of the character there.
Speaker 3: I'm not there with DC.
Speaker 6: So I'm just sitting here chilling, and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 6: whatever y'all give me from here on out, I'll accept.
Speaker 3: The black man, I know the black man. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying?
Speaker 6: Because he's basically the only black nigga we had on
Speaker 6: the show.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I was locked in on him, and
Speaker 3: they got the essence of him down.
Speaker 6: So Manhunters, I can't even say anything but other than
Speaker 6: I like this piece of like forcing him to second
Speaker 6: guess whether he should trust Hal.
Speaker 3: Because Hal is treating you like shit right now. So
Speaker 3: adding this.
Speaker 6: Nugget to him to make him second guess like, damn,
Speaker 6: should I trust this?
Speaker 3: Nigga? Because he's not doing what I thought he was
Speaker 3: supposed to do for me. That's all I really took
Speaker 3: away from this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lou, again, we know who the Manhunter that we
Speaker 2: comic book fans are, but how they're doing it is
Speaker 2: kind of similar to how I feel like they did
Speaker 2: with Superman, where it's like there is a specific perspective
Speaker 2: that we have of at this specific alien race for
Speaker 2: example like superman's uh backstory was he came from planet
Speaker 2: krypton to and his parents wanted him to just kind
Speaker 2: of be helpful to the humans like he don't do
Speaker 2: anything crazy you're gonna have powers but be helpful but
Speaker 2: in the movie they were saying the complete opposite they
Speaker 2: were saying like we want you to take over and
Speaker 2: rule this introduction is kind of going on that beat
Speaker 2: where it's like It was presented to us one way
Speaker 2: a while ago. I don't know how they're presented this way.
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm kind of keeping things open, like
Speaker 2: Jalen said, for interpretation. But the fact that we even got,
Speaker 2: we're going to possibly get three superheroes in one show
Speaker 2: is actually interesting. So I did like the interrogation. That
Speaker 2: gun scene that you were talking about, Lou, we never
Speaker 2: seen that before. I think he was just, it was
Speaker 2: kind of like a forceful highlight reel.
Speaker 3: Of genocide that he was showing them.
Speaker 2: To kind of let him know that these people, these Manhunters,
Speaker 2: or these beings are not to be messed with.
Speaker 1: Nick, the other thing I was thinking about, because there's
Speaker 1: the Manhunters, the aliens, and I guess just by everything
Speaker 1: that we got in the show, it must be John
Speaker 1: John's people. But the Green Lanterns also have Manhunters as well.
Speaker 4: They are the red.
Speaker 1: Gray-bluish face-looking things, but they're.
Speaker 4: More like robots, though. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you said Manhunters, my first thought was, oh, shit,
Speaker 1: Martian Manhunters in here, because we kind of mentioned it
Speaker 1: last week. But then when I re-watched the scene again,
Speaker 1: they didn't say that, so I'm like, okay, wait, is
Speaker 1: this supposed to be.
Speaker 4: The robotic? It can't be.
Speaker 1: Or are they rewriting the robotic man hunters to be
Speaker 1: something different since this is a different universe man it
Speaker 1: makes more sense for it to be john john's people
Speaker 1: than the other way around but it did cross my
Speaker 1: mind that it could be the other version because i
Speaker 1: think they went um i think they went crazy at
Speaker 1: one point too and started killing green lanterns or the guardians.
Speaker 3: Or something Spike, don't feel bad.
Speaker 6: They're going to kick our ass this week because we
Speaker 6: don't know what the fuck we're talking about.
Speaker 3: We just spitballing. Yeah, we spitballing. So, again, you might
Speaker 3: feel lost with us talking shit, right? We really grabbing
Speaker 3: that scrawl right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we lost it. I'm lost.
Speaker 2: But that's the great thing about this show, Lou, is
Speaker 2: that anybody can come to the table and still be
Speaker 2: on the same page.
Speaker 3: No one is ahead of the curve as far as
Speaker 3: what they're showing.
Speaker 2: Because Even this show predates, I believe it was in
Speaker 2: production before James Gunn even took over the studio to
Speaker 2: do all the superhero stuff. So this stuff is like,
Speaker 2: we don't know where they're going with it and how
Speaker 2: it's going to tie into anything.
Speaker 5: So this don't play into, like you said in the beginning,
Speaker 5: differentiating the DCEU versus just regular DC.
Speaker 3: This won't play into any of the movies or anything? No,
Speaker 3: this will.
Speaker 2: But this is like going off of basically the Superman movie,
Speaker 2: the most recent Superman movie that came out.
Speaker 3: This is after this. This is.
Speaker 2: Well, the time again, you know, the timeline they play
Speaker 2: around with in this show.
Speaker 3: Right. It's before, present and after. You know what I'm saying? So.
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying. That's what the true detective
Speaker 3: thing is, though. It's messing with time. I wouldn't think
Speaker 3: about it too much, Lou.
Speaker 2: It don't have nothing to do with them, but it's
Speaker 2: in the same universe is all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It seems like they're going to give you everything you need.
Speaker 6: And the thing about this, too, Lou, as far as
Speaker 6: the MCU and you watch the Marvel shit, there's a
Speaker 6: lot of movies you haven't watched and you just be
Speaker 6: catching up and you just be like lost.
Speaker 3: Superman was basically the beginning. You saw Superman. So Superman
Speaker 3: is basically the piece of anything you're watching forward.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Everything you're watching forward, you've seen everything. So it's not
Speaker 6: like you will be, you need to go watch five
Speaker 6: of the movies to catch up. You've seen everything. You
Speaker 6: probably haven't seen as a cartoon show, but it's still
Speaker 6: not that deep because it's like kind of little isolated
Speaker 6: thing that's going on.
Speaker 2: So you don't, the only thing is, is Peacemaker and Supergirl.
Speaker 2: Those are the only things that's tied. It also is
Speaker 2: tied into this.
Speaker 3: Peacemaker don't really matter. I watched Peacemaker, the TV show.
Speaker 3: Y'all watched it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: We reviewed everything that had started in this universe outside
Speaker 6: the cartoon show.
Speaker 3: So you caught up.
Speaker 2: So later we see how after discovering that the Makins
Speaker 2: have alien detecting technology get pulled over by Sheriff Kelly
Speaker 2: and she agrees to take him to see Will Makin
Speaker 2: once again so he can ask him get some answers
Speaker 2: for the questions that he got. Ken, what were your
Speaker 2: thoughts on how things turned out for Hal's second visit
Speaker 2: on the Macon's compound?
Speaker 1: They got carte blanche it seems, bro. They shot dude
Speaker 1: in the shoulder, you know, for trespassing. So it seems
Speaker 1: like they have a lot of power and leverage in
Speaker 1: that town over a lot of people. And he was
Speaker 1: at that meeting too. He was sitting right up front
Speaker 1: And she was trying to tell him, but, you know,
Speaker 1: he's arrogant. He's cocky. He's really, really good at his job.
Speaker 1: But he also didn't have the ring, and the ring
Speaker 1: was powerless. So I thought it was an interesting conversation
Speaker 1: because he's confronting him, and he's basically following through on
Speaker 1: a bit of the lead he had before earlier when
Speaker 1: he was saying that, look, I think it was when
Speaker 1: they were having the town hall meeting He was like,
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a while, and I got
Speaker 1: lucky with my gut that it was aliens. But they somehow,
Speaker 1: someway knew that it was aliens here and managed to
Speaker 1: get it right. So there's something amiss with him and
Speaker 1: this militia he has. And he's trying to figure that
Speaker 1: whole story out. But just like in America, in certain parts, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: he's malicious. They got power. And they show him the
Speaker 1: power that they have. And they shot his ass. Because
Speaker 1: he thought they were bluffing until he woke up in
Speaker 1: the hospital.
Speaker 3: Hey, Lou, it's very rare we get to see.
Speaker 2: White man consequences versus white man aggression. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying? Like, not only does Hal think he, well,
Speaker 2: he know he is One of them ones. Like, I'm
Speaker 2: a superhero. And I'm a cop, international cop. So I
Speaker 2: have jurisdiction wherever I have jurisdiction. And y'all all know me.
Speaker 2: Y'all all know that I'm a hero. So when I'm
Speaker 2: asking questions, y'all have to answer it. But he's in
Speaker 2: some random part of Nebraska, and they like, bro, we
Speaker 2: own this whole city. You ain't telling us nothing. If
Speaker 2: we want to speak, that's when we want to speak.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? So I thought I was
Speaker 2: shocked that he got shot. I don't know about you.
Speaker 5: In front of the sheriff, too. In front of the sheriff.
Speaker 5: And he gave him a slick warning, but not really.
Speaker 5: He was like, bro, dude's going to shoot you. He
Speaker 5: kept talking like, I told you he was going to
Speaker 5: shoot you. And shot him. Yeah, that was a good scene.
Speaker 3: Jay, what did you think about this scene? I hear y'all.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of knew that they had the
Speaker 3: right to shoot him, because I mean, shit. Them Western, Midwestern.
Speaker 3: You on the land, niggas. They are not afraid to
Speaker 3: shoot you, nigga.
Speaker 6: Once you're transparent, niggas are looking for a reason to
Speaker 6: shoot you. So that part, when the sheriff was like, no,
Speaker 6: he can shoot you, I knew that part was true.
Speaker 6: What I didn't think they was going to shoot him
Speaker 6: is when he was like, I got the ring. I
Speaker 6: would have been like, yeah. So when they actually shot him,
Speaker 6: They gave even more credence to me knowing that he
Speaker 6: know what's up.
Speaker 3: He got a lot more information. He knew the ring
Speaker 3: was dead. He knew the ring was dead.
Speaker 6: He knew because in the last episode, an alien revealed itself.
Speaker 6: He was like, you only got so much of a
Speaker 6: charge because you haven't been here for a minute. So
Speaker 6: they have like he had an idea that it was
Speaker 6: because why would I shoot if I know you got
Speaker 6: that ring?
Speaker 3: My bullets ain't going to do shit.
Speaker 6: Because you can create whatever the fuck you want to
Speaker 6: create so it don't matter if you trespass or not
Speaker 6: he and that's what he was thinking too like ain't
Speaker 6: no nigga gonna shoot me when i got this ring
Speaker 6: on i wouldn't worry i knew they could shoot him
Speaker 6: but the fact that they did shoot him i was
Speaker 6: like yeah he know he know a little bit more
Speaker 6: than what they let him let know that.
Speaker 2: He knows i'm more i'm very there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people doing a lot of recap theories on everything as
Speaker 2: far as like who's a manhunter because they're shapeshifters um Who, like,
Speaker 2: who could be the guy that, you know, Will Macon
Speaker 2: is representing or is working for. And I'm very focused on, because,
Speaker 2: you know, the first episode ended with us knowing Hal
Speaker 2: got shot.
Speaker 3: So he ain't four in the bullets.
Speaker 1: So, so.
Speaker 2: To me, it's just more... I'm so curious about who
Speaker 2: killed Hal Jordan. And I feel like we're about to
Speaker 2: find out in this season. And that's going to be... Because, again,
Speaker 2: every other theory is not talking about that. Because, again,
Speaker 2: it seems like it's already a conclusion. Like, okay, we
Speaker 2: know he died, so everything else... It's kind of more
Speaker 2: important than him dying because we know we're eventually going
Speaker 2: to get there. But every interaction he has with the
Speaker 2: townspeople and everything, I'm questioning them on that. I know
Speaker 2: we're going to find out. There's going to be a
Speaker 2: surprise alien. It could be the little boy. It could
Speaker 2: be the sexy grandma. It could be somebody else. It
Speaker 2: could be his lawyer. Either way, somebody killed Hal Jordan.
Speaker 2: We need to figure out why. I feel like people
Speaker 2: aren't paying attention more so to that part of the
Speaker 2: story than to the alien espionage that we're going into.
Speaker 2: That was the main thing I took away from this
Speaker 2: scene was, like, this guy has so much power and
Speaker 2: has a financial backing that he can do whatever he want.
Speaker 2: He controls that town. And the sheriff was even talking
Speaker 2: to Hal, like, listen, bro, I'm already dealing with somebody
Speaker 2: who I got to report to. I don't need to
Speaker 2: report to you either. I'm not doing that. It's like
Speaker 2: I'm only going to have one boss.
Speaker 3: You know how, hey, Ken, you know.
Speaker 4: You're a married man.
Speaker 3: You already know.
Speaker 2: The woman, the wife, the woman ain't only going to
Speaker 2: have one boss.
Speaker 3: That's it. Anybody else, you ain't talking to me like that.
Speaker 3: And most of the time, it's Jesus. It ain't even you.
Speaker 2: So after getting shot, we see how I was recovering
Speaker 2: at some random hospital in the town. And Sheriff Kelly
Speaker 2: is sitting by his bedside. But she got some questions
Speaker 2: of her own now.
Speaker 3: Jalen. What were your thoughts when you heard.
Speaker 2: Sinestro's name be introduced into this show, this episode?
Speaker 6: Now, this is the Lord a little bit, Spike. That's
Speaker 6: like his number one villain, basically.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That's his Lex Luthor.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Exactly. That's who we need to go see at the end, right? Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: So when I heard his name, I was like, all right.
Speaker 6: All right, so y'all actually all going to give us
Speaker 6: a next show in the season.
Speaker 3: Cool, cool, cool. So I perked up a little bit.
Speaker 3: It was more so that he was trying to be,
Speaker 3: that Hal was trying to be secretive about it.
Speaker 6: Like, why are you trying to, like, give me more
Speaker 6: of that backstory because you're being secretive about it, but obviously.
Speaker 3: She can find the information whenever she wants to.
Speaker 6: And obviously she reveals where she's from which I mean
Speaker 6: Spike I'm pretty sure you know what that is obviously
Speaker 6: so all these little they were dropping like small little
Speaker 6: nuggets for comic book fans but they weren't giving us
Speaker 6: anything it was just like random things that is lore
Speaker 6: but it didn't give us any substance so it just
Speaker 6: perked my ears up.
Speaker 3: It didn't really move me in the story anymore it
Speaker 3: was just more so the.
Speaker 6: Reaction of how he was not really interacting the way
Speaker 6: I thought.
Speaker 3: He could have because it seemed like it was public information. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it seemed like she just.
Speaker 2: Googled like how we can Google Sinestro on Wikipedia, but
Speaker 2: they're actually in the world. I got a question about that,
Speaker 2: but Ken, what were your thoughts on Sinestro's name being dropped?
Speaker 1: Oh, I like this part too because now you're adding
Speaker 1: more comic book-y stuff, so I just like hearing the
Speaker 1: name drop, seeing how His whole demeanor changed. Them, her
Speaker 1: telling the story for those that know who he is
Speaker 1: and are familiar with him. And just to let us
Speaker 1: know that this guy is in this world and also
Speaker 1: is giving just enough backstory and information for people that
Speaker 1: are not. and using him being passed out and talking
Speaker 1: his sleep in his sleep.
Speaker 4: As a way to do that.
Speaker 1: So I thought that was really, really dope how they
Speaker 1: managed to pull that off. And then it turned out
Speaker 1: to even have meetings. I thought they were just name
Speaker 1: dropping just to do it. Guy had no idea Sinestro
Speaker 1: would even appear in this show. Cause I was wondering
Speaker 1: that last week, but I was like, nah, it didn't
Speaker 1: seem like there's really a reason for him to even
Speaker 1: appear in the show because he's a villain. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they're just going to keep it focused on
Speaker 1: what's going on on Earth. So I was definitely surprised
Speaker 1: by what we got.
Speaker 4: But I thought it was really, really dope how they
Speaker 4: did that.
Speaker 1: And given how we ended the episode, thinking about it now.
Speaker 4: That was actually really good in what they did and
Speaker 4: how they wrote that.
Speaker 2: For me, I know Sinestro's backstory. I know he's a villain.
Speaker 2: So I kind of was like, okay, that was dope.
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, Ken, it was dope that they dropped
Speaker 2: the name. But Lou, am I the only one who
Speaker 2: was like, what the hell is up with Sheriff Kelly?
Speaker 2: I cannot find a read on her because we are
Speaker 2: in this empty ass hospital that Hal calls out. He said,
Speaker 2: all this equipment look like y'all just bought this to
Speaker 2: make it seem like we're in a hospital. And two,
Speaker 2: she's answering every question without hesitation, not even any hint
Speaker 2: of curiosity herself.
Speaker 3: Now, granted, she's a sheriff. She always mentions a, you
Speaker 3: know what they always say?
Speaker 2: You know, you're probably not doing your job or don't
Speaker 2: have that high position if you got to keep reminding
Speaker 2: people what your.
Speaker 3: Title is, what you do and what your title is.
Speaker 2: Because she keeps telling us that she's a sheriff, but
Speaker 2: she's doing hella deputy stuff.
Speaker 3: If that.
Speaker 2: And so but she has all the answers. And I'm wondering, like,
Speaker 2: what is going on with Sheriff Kelly? What was your
Speaker 2: thoughts on Sheriff Kelly this episode?
Speaker 5: I had the same thoughts. As he's walking out of
Speaker 5: the hospital, Nick, and he's like, well, damn, ain't nobody
Speaker 5: else in the hospital? Like, what's going on over here?
Speaker 5: Then when she had all the information, when she was
Speaker 5: sitting right there talking to him, she's been watching him
Speaker 5: with the body. She knew he had the dead bodies
Speaker 5: in the car. She knew he was testing, like, all
Speaker 5: of these things. She just ominously knows, like, some be-all
Speaker 5: person that's in the town. So I do agree with you.
Speaker 5: Something is up with Nick. The character that she's playing
Speaker 5: is going to be more revealed there. I know we're
Speaker 5: looking for an alien. That may be it. In some way, shape,
Speaker 5: or form. Or she's helping them out later on. But
Speaker 5: I definitely was suspicious after this scene. Nick, you hit
Speaker 5: that right on the head.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. Y'all picked that up. I'm not looking at her, though.
Speaker 3: I just looked at it as the power dynamics, like
Speaker 3: how she said. I'm just trying to keep this... this
Speaker 3: town together.
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to hear all that she way too
Speaker 6: cool i'm not talking about morris i know what you're
Speaker 6: talking about shut up nick i ain't going i'm talking
Speaker 6: about i'm more so just saying like this nigga got
Speaker 6: a lot of power i ain't gonna listen i may
Speaker 6: know shit but i want this nigga to know i
Speaker 6: know shit because he he already got enough power.
Speaker 3: To move whatever the fuck you want to move and.
Speaker 6: That's what she was saying like the more that how
Speaker 6: does stuff the more he's going like.
Speaker 3: Uh Macon is going to react to it and show
Speaker 3: his power.
Speaker 6: It's more of him reinforcing how much power he has
Speaker 6: that she has to move under the radar before she
Speaker 6: comes with the facts. Because all he's going to do
Speaker 6: is shift shit around because he's got so much power
Speaker 6: in the town. That's how I took it. Not more
Speaker 6: so that she was afraid. Like a man, woman dichotomy.
Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking about it that way.
Speaker 2: And to me, and Lou, before you go, to me
Speaker 2: it was more of like, to respond back to what
Speaker 2: you were saying, Jalen, it wasn't about the, to me,
Speaker 2: the woman, man dichotomy or situation it felt like something
Speaker 2: to kind of take you off center from actually asking
Speaker 2: real questions. Because he was saying, bro, if you knew
Speaker 2: there was aliens from the first episode till now, you
Speaker 2: know that's my jurisdiction. Why have you been trying to
Speaker 2: hold me back from doing my job if you know
Speaker 2: my job is meant to be done here?
Speaker 3: That was the thing.
Speaker 2: When he asked that question, and she gave, again, she
Speaker 2: gave the reason that you said, like, oh, he got
Speaker 2: a lot of power. What the hell that got to
Speaker 2: do with me doing my job? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, It's like.
Speaker 3: It's just like a nigga coming in the hood.
Speaker 6: Like the police coming into the hood and just knocking
Speaker 6: down doors. Like, yeah, it's your job to solve a murder.
Speaker 6: But you know you could probably get more done if
Speaker 6: you actually said it. If you was cool in the
Speaker 6: community and you knew the dynamics of what was going on.
Speaker 6: The cop will come out of town through this shit
Speaker 6: and bumfuck and then come to Atlanta. Nigga, it's not
Speaker 6: the same. You got to understand the dynamics of what
Speaker 6: the fuck going on here. You can't just come up
Speaker 6: in the city and think that you're going to do
Speaker 6: the same shit you did there. You got to understand
Speaker 6: the dynamics. Who has power? Who's on what payroll? You
Speaker 6: have to understand those things. And I think that's more so.
Speaker 6: Hal isn't even trying to hear that shit. He on
Speaker 6: some shit like Get the fuck out the way. I
Speaker 6: know what the fuck I'm doing. That's the way I
Speaker 6: see it.
Speaker 5: I agree with that to an extent because I am
Speaker 5: picking up on she's trying to move.
Speaker 3: Under the radar, like you're saying, of the main dude.
Speaker 5: But also, there's this thing there that she knows more
Speaker 5: than she's letting on to. She's carrying the conversations and
Speaker 5: her interactions with him are one thing. very cautious, like
Speaker 5: you said, Jalen, because she's trying to avoid dude. They
Speaker 5: are very cautious, but they also seem kind of like
Speaker 5: she's hiding something.
Speaker 3: I feel that.
Speaker 4: I feel that. Also, because Nick, you asked last week about.
Speaker 1: The relationship, and she did drop in here during one
Speaker 1: conversation that she's unhappy or something like that.
Speaker 3: In her marriage.
Speaker 4: Oh, you're unhappy at home? I thought that was interesting, too.
Speaker 3: Hey, boy, we only need an inch to take a mile.
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna lie. Every character that lady plays, she's not
Speaker 3: happy at home. I remember her from... From no country
Speaker 3: for a while.
Speaker 1: Men?
Speaker 3: No Country for Old Men and Boy Walking Empire. She
Speaker 3: was both of them.
Speaker 5: She was unhappy at home.
Speaker 4: Oh, I do want to.
Speaker 3: I do want to do... Nick, I think.
Speaker 6: They did a little, and when it came into Sinestro,
Speaker 6: I think that's not knowing that he's in the show.
Speaker 6: I think they did themselves a disservice, but I also
Speaker 6: respect it as far as the trailers are probably based
Speaker 6: on the first three episodes. You can tell that all
Speaker 6: the shit we saw was basically in these couple of episodes.
Speaker 6: And so there's a lot of things they probably hid
Speaker 6: from us. that's going to be good for us as
Speaker 6: we watch. But it doesn't bring anybody in who was
Speaker 6: watching the trailers because the trailers were so damn bland.
Speaker 6: Nobody else, people don't really give a fuck about it.
Speaker 6: So hopefully word of mouth as the show, as I
Speaker 6: think it will get better, will force people to go
Speaker 6: and watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, for their first three-day release of the series,
Speaker 2: it got like almost 10 million views. So I think
Speaker 2: that was up with, the Penguin show that came out
Speaker 2: not too long ago. But that Penguin show had to
Speaker 2: get 10 million views after like 11 days. So it
Speaker 2: seems like people are tuning in and fans are satisfied
Speaker 2: across the board. But I mean, you're coming off of
Speaker 2: House of the Dragon, so it's kind of like you
Speaker 2: may just be getting those viewers based off of like,
Speaker 2: all right, what else y'all got?
Speaker 3: And it may drop off.
Speaker 4: We'll see.
Speaker 3: We then go see it.
Speaker 2: John coming back to Rushville after meeting with the aliens,
Speaker 2: and he pulls up to a local diner, and lo
Speaker 2: and behold, Ken, we see the sexy grandma Zoe sitting
Speaker 2: in the booth ready to talk to him.
Speaker 3: They doing us dirty, Ken. They could have got us.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jay, you know who Nick Jonas is, the Jonas Brothers,
Speaker 2: the wife, the Nick Jonas? They could have got her, bro.
Speaker 2: And we would have been like, all right, we done.
Speaker 2: They giving us a.
Speaker 3: But she don't look old enough to be with him.
Speaker 3: I get the point. I get it. But I'm with you.
Speaker 3: But I understand the casting.
Speaker 4: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: Hey, man, he in middle America.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't do this to Timothee Chalamet, Lou. They wouldn't
Speaker 2: do this to Robert Pattinson.
Speaker 4: He didn't.
Speaker 3: Timothee was with Guido Paltrow. He didn't. Robert Pattinson hasn't dead.
Speaker 3: He hasn't dead.
Speaker 6: He's older than Zendaya, though.
Speaker 3: Huh? He's older than Zendaya. I'm just saying he got
Speaker 3: our best. They ain't giving us a bargain bin. She's
Speaker 3: the best for them, for what they are.
Speaker 6: She's not terrible.
Speaker 5: If you look her up, I remember her from Better
Speaker 5: Call Saul, and I remember her from Night Of.
Speaker 3: She's still attractive. I get your point. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: she hurt. I'm just saying she ain't one of the ones. Nick,
Speaker 3: this is Nebraska. It's Nebraska, bro.
Speaker 6: Nick is having a problem because he was watching Justice
Speaker 6: League Unlimited. Jon Stewart had a hot girl.
Speaker 3: He had a hot girl and he had Vixie. Look
Speaker 3: him up.
Speaker 6: And for cartoon characters, he was using his imagination as
Speaker 6: a kid on how fine they was.
Speaker 3: And now he's looking at what Jon Stewart got.
Speaker 2: We getting some sexy grandma names.
Speaker 3: Zoe, come on. Ken, go ahead. I'm sorry. I asked
Speaker 3: you a question. What do you think of their concept?
Speaker 3: She's South Asian.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. So, I like that he called her out, though.
Speaker 1: You know, about the white thing. And, you know, she
Speaker 1: gave some bullshit-ass answer, but I think she know what
Speaker 1: it is. So, but I also like, he was like, so, what,
Speaker 1: is this how y'all get down or something? Like, what
Speaker 1: the hell really going on?
Speaker 5: What y'all probably missing out on?
Speaker 2: Hey, Lou, you hear how he had to change it up?
Speaker 3: He was like, Is your relationship unconventional? She was trying
Speaker 3: to ask a question.
Speaker 1: And she was like, nah, you know, sometimes it just
Speaker 1: gets caught up and I get bored, so I just
Speaker 1: go do something.
Speaker 4: But she didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: She was like, it's a small town that was bound
Speaker 1: to get out, so I don't know what you want
Speaker 1: me to do about that.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jay, Jay, she hit him with, to summarize it,
Speaker 2: she hit him with The young Miami quote, hey, spit
Speaker 2: in that shit. Because she was like, hey, bro, I
Speaker 2: got a rich white dude that's willing to pay for
Speaker 2: my lifestyle.
Speaker 3: And I'm in Rushville, Nebraska.
Speaker 2: Remember, Lou, I always ask you, I was like, bro,
Speaker 2: if you could be a king of anywhere that's not
Speaker 2: one of the major states, where would it be?
Speaker 3: And we seeing what it's like to be the king
Speaker 3: of Rushville, Nebraska. I don't want to be the king
Speaker 3: of Rushville, bro. I don't know. I can't even do it.
Speaker 3: That ain't going to hold you. Not even for a shot.
Speaker 3: A potential shapeshifter? She can be anybody you want for
Speaker 3: the night, boo.
Speaker 6: On top of that, obviously, niggas out of town come
Speaker 6: in and hit my wife. Obviously, that ain't the kind
Speaker 6: of king I want to be.
Speaker 3: Niggas out of town. Black man came out of town
Speaker 3: and hit my wife, bro, and she ain't put up
Speaker 3: no fight.
Speaker 6: Honestly, she was trying to go again. If we being honest,
Speaker 6: she was in that bar like, nigga, ain't really no
Speaker 6: thing for me to have fun whenever I want to.
Speaker 6: I bust it open when I feel like it. I
Speaker 6: don't think I want to be that kind of king, Spike.
Speaker 3: I want to be the king when my wife won't
Speaker 3: give it up to me, bro. Hey, okay, y'all making
Speaker 3: good points. That's how I got out of Nebraska, though.
Speaker 3: I just assumed that's how Nebraska was, to be honest
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 4: She was like, oh, I'm glad you weren't, or something
Speaker 4: she said to him.
Speaker 2: He said, if I would have known, yeah, if I
Speaker 2: would have known you were married, I wouldn't have done it,
Speaker 2: so I'm glad you didn't know.
Speaker 4: Glad you didn't know.
Speaker 2: You know, we found out that day, bro. They may
Speaker 2: not be, they may not be, it's concrete outside, so
Speaker 2: you know what that mean, Lou? That mean she for
Speaker 2: the streets. As long as there's concrete outside, somebody's for
Speaker 2: the streets. But I found it interesting that, again, because
Speaker 2: she is, as you said, Southeast Asian, or at least
Speaker 2: she's portraying that in the show, a person of color,
Speaker 2: and obviously John Black, they did have that, like, you
Speaker 2: know how we get in the office when there's only
Speaker 2: two of us, three of us, we go, all right,
Speaker 2: what y'all think about these white folks?
Speaker 3: You're talking for real. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I did like that part of the conversation. But
Speaker 2: I don't like how he How she takes him off
Speaker 2: center too easily. As soon as he see her, bro,
Speaker 2: he forget the mission. He forget his name. He forget
Speaker 2: the Atlanta. And I'm like, bro, what does she got
Speaker 2: on you?
Speaker 3: I will say to that point, Nick, she not bad
Speaker 3: enough for that. Thank you. That's the only thing.
Speaker 5: So she not bad looking. I'm not agreeing with you there.
Speaker 5: But to throw him off his pivot like she doing, that, nah,
Speaker 5: not her. Not the old, not her.
Speaker 6: What I think it is, man, you know, Jon Stewart
Speaker 6: is very military uptight, man.
Speaker 3: He don't be getting pussy off him like that. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? It's like he finally got a piece.
Speaker 3: He don't know how to act.
Speaker 2: It's weird, though, Jay, because he's Aaron Pierre, regardless of
Speaker 2: who he plays. So you expect him like, bro, you
Speaker 2: at least get something, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Top shelf.
Speaker 2: My thing is also, like, I'm watching this show on Amazon, Citadel,
Speaker 2: season two of Citadel.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing Nick Jonah's wife in that show.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, bro, if she was in this series
Speaker 2: playing that character, I don't.
Speaker 3: Give a damn. Is she an alien? Is she a whatever?
Speaker 3: You got to disconnect, man.
Speaker 2: She could have the ring. She could have my wallet.
Speaker 2: She could have the rental car.
Speaker 3: She could have whatever she want.
Speaker 6: You got to disconnect from the part that Aaron Pierre
Speaker 6: had Tiana Taylor.
Speaker 3: Like, I get you. You got Tiana Taylor.
Speaker 6: Like, I mean, yeah, I understand. But at the same time,
Speaker 6: I'm just looking at her like, I.
Speaker 5: See why you said Nick Jonas Rice, you racist motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that we go cast in that, if
Speaker 2: we go cast in that category, there's.
Speaker 3: Premiums in that category if we go cast in that.
Speaker 3: Just like when they cast in our category, Ken, they
Speaker 3: know the premiums of us too.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Don't do that. Don't do that. So after low-key pillow-talking,
Speaker 3: but what could be an alien.
Speaker 2: We see John get dropped off by Zoe at the
Speaker 2: motel that they're staying at, and John informs Hal of
Speaker 2: his recent adventures.
Speaker 3: Lou, I'm going to start with you. What did you
Speaker 3: think of how this conversation went? This is good, man.
Speaker 3: He letting Hal know he tired of this shit. The
Speaker 3: dynamic is shifting.
Speaker 5: I think right on time, again, to the pacing of
Speaker 5: this show, right on time at the end of the
Speaker 5: second episode, you're getting this shift in that dynamic as to,
Speaker 5: all right, I'm through playing Mr. Nice Guy with you,
Speaker 5: I got all the information now. I'm taking you off
Speaker 5: the pedestal. Now let's see how the conversation goes from here.
Speaker 5: And also on the flip side, how Hal is looking
Speaker 5: at him like going from a newbie to, oh, shit,
Speaker 5: he was able to get some information when I sent
Speaker 5: him on a dummy mission. And he didn't even really
Speaker 5: say how he got the information. So he's looking at
Speaker 5: him with a little bit more respect, too. I like
Speaker 5: how this scene played out and set up what we
Speaker 5: got to come. So, so far, so good.
Speaker 2: Jay, were you were you surprised that John told how,
Speaker 2: what went down?
Speaker 3: I don't think surprised is the word I would use.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done it.
Speaker 6: I would have probably kept my, my cards close to
Speaker 6: my vest for a little bit longer. Um, yeah, so
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a problem because John, he.
Speaker 3: Does his marching orders. You know what I'm saying? So,
Speaker 3: These niggas kidnapped me.
Speaker 6: I want to be a lamb and I was taught
Speaker 6: to be like I'm supposed to tell you this as
Speaker 6: my superior. So I wasn't surprised at that at all.
Speaker 6: It's just not how I would have played it. So
Speaker 6: if it's his character, because even when he did it,
Speaker 6: he did it in a way of like, I'm telling
Speaker 6: you this in order for you to give me more
Speaker 6: leeway to earn your respect because you constantly disrespect me.
Speaker 3: Will it work? I don't think so, because he basically.
Speaker 6: He was like, when he found out that he was, like,
Speaker 6: a top-notch lander, like, how great he was, he was like,
Speaker 6: I would at least expect a hoorah.
Speaker 3: Nigga, how? Okay, dude. Here, nigga, damn.
Speaker 7: Like, that shit, that was funny as fuck. But the
Speaker 7: main thing I took from this scene that I was
Speaker 7: still thinking about is when he got rid of the bird.
Speaker 3: When Hal was like, yo, what's up with the bird?
Speaker 3: Why the bird? And he grabbed the bird.
Speaker 6: And even though he felt like he was uneasy about
Speaker 6: doing it, it's like he had some type of attachment
Speaker 6: to that bird a little bit over that time.
Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see how that's going to come
Speaker 3: back around.
Speaker 2: Ken, I'm glad Jay brought that up because I was
Speaker 2: going to ask you, do you think he was lying
Speaker 2: about like, oh, it's just a simple bird? Because like
Speaker 2: Hal was mentioning, usually projections like that are way more
Speaker 2: intentional and they mean something to you when you do
Speaker 2: Especially if it's going to last for that long.
Speaker 1: I was thinking it may have had something to do
Speaker 1: with his dad. Definitely something with his childhood. Because that bird,
Speaker 1: when they were attacking him, were attacking the people.
Speaker 4: With force.
Speaker 1: There was blood on their heads and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But I'm with Jalen. I think he was like, man,
Speaker 1: this bird don't really mean shit. Just the Make sure
Speaker 1: that Kyle doesn't have anything over him because now Kyle
Speaker 1: is probing.
Speaker 4: Hal is probing. Hal is really good at picking up
Speaker 4: on shit just from experience.
Speaker 1: So he noticed when things are out of place. And
Speaker 1: that bird being out of place and you coming back
Speaker 1: with that bird, given what it sounds like, all the situations.
Speaker 4: You've been in, yet the one thing that remains.
Speaker 1: If that was that bird all the way from there
Speaker 1: until here, what the hell is it about that bird
Speaker 1: that's so important?
Speaker 4: So I think it'll definitely come back around.
Speaker 2: I also like the fact that he said he recharged
Speaker 2: his ring real quick.
Speaker 3: He was just trying to get the oath out the way.
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, black as day, black as night.
Speaker 3: That nigga ain't got no spicy. He like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: charging my shit, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Lou and the Lord, they repeat that.
Speaker 2: That's their oath, of course, to recharge their ring, but
Speaker 2: that's supposed to be like, you're supposed to say that
Speaker 2: like the Prejudice of Allegiance.
Speaker 3: Like, that's how it was like, it's kind of like.
Speaker 2: Meant in their world. So for him to say it
Speaker 2: like that is kind of like how you would say
Speaker 2: the Prejudice of Allegiance now.
Speaker 3: You're just trying to get it out the way.
Speaker 2: So to end this episode, we see how right after
Speaker 2: having that conversation with John, fly back to what seems
Speaker 2: to be Oa, which is the Basically, the main police
Speaker 2: station for the Greenlanders. It's a whole planet, but it's
Speaker 2: the main station for the Greenlanders where also the Guardians live.
Speaker 3: They always mention the Guardians.
Speaker 2: The Guardians are literally like the Oompa Loompas looking thing,
Speaker 2: but they blue. And they're the ones that created the
Speaker 2: rings and created the whole peacekeeping mission. So it seems
Speaker 2: like he's going back there to go see Sinestro. who
Speaker 2: we found out earlier, is still in play in this
Speaker 2: universe and he sees that he's locked up because from
Speaker 2: what Sheriff Kelly said, he tried to take over the
Speaker 2: Greenlanders and basically do a mutiny, but they stopped him
Speaker 2: because of Hal Jordan. Ken, what were your thoughts on
Speaker 2: this exchange and how impactful do you think it's going
Speaker 2: to be?
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be really impactful. I'm not
Speaker 1: familiar with the actor that played him, I remember how
Speaker 1: Sinestro was red, so maybe it was just the lighting
Speaker 1: that they had on him, but what I found really interesting,
Speaker 1: first I thought it was dope that whatever information he
Speaker 1: got from John was serious enough for him to fly
Speaker 1: his ass off planet. So we got some more superhero shit,
Speaker 1: which was dope, but I really noticed his tone change.
Speaker 4: And I've been wondering if.
Speaker 1: When Hal is interacting with people on the planet or
Speaker 1: in those cities, if that's an act.
Speaker 4: Or if that's who he really is.
Speaker 1: He's all silly and goofy and nonchalant and arrogant and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Is that just an act to get
Speaker 1: them to let their guard down? And this is the
Speaker 1: real version of him? Or he just really, and I
Speaker 1: know you don't fuck with Sinestro. But once he saw him,
Speaker 1: he realized he really didn't fuck with Sinestro. And that's
Speaker 1: why his whole mood changed. But his whole demeanor was different.
Speaker 1: And I really like that. So now I want to
Speaker 1: see what has changed in terms of conversation we're going
Speaker 1: to get from here. Because the thing that Sinestro threw
Speaker 1: back at his face was, well, what the fuck do
Speaker 1: you know about Jon Stewart? So now we got the
Speaker 1: Manhunters adding some doubt to john and sinestro may be
Speaker 1: adding doubt to how so.
Speaker 4: How will this relationship.
Speaker 1: Continue to work when they no longer trust each other
Speaker 1: when they don't really fuck with each other right now
Speaker 1: anyway so what happens next so i think this was
Speaker 1: a good ending to the show And really sparks a
Speaker 1: lot of different questions about what is to come for next.
Speaker 3: What were your thoughts, Jay? I think that suit ugly
Speaker 3: as fuck. That's an ugly ass suit.
Speaker 6: That's the first thing. I'm like, damn, that suit. At
Speaker 6: least it look ugly on how. I don't know how
Speaker 6: it's going to look when John got it on, but
Speaker 6: it definitely ugly on him. Shit like all in the shoulders.
Speaker 3: That shit was trash. Yeah, it was like real bulky
Speaker 3: in the shoulders.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that shit was trash.
Speaker 6: The interaction was just, it was cool. It was a
Speaker 6: nice way to end the episode. And I guess you
Speaker 6: didn't see the trailer. Obviously, it's not giving nothing away.
Speaker 6: It's just the trailer was focused on Jon Stewart's backstory.
Speaker 6: And so that's why when they end the episode, he's
Speaker 6: asking about Jon Stewart.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, cool.
Speaker 6: And for them to know that the next episode of
Speaker 6: Focus is going to be on John, it kind of
Speaker 6: got me excited.
Speaker 3: All right, now we can learn about the black man,
Speaker 3: damn it.
Speaker 6: Let's get some info about the black man. But everything else,
Speaker 6: and it was just a cool interaction. I didn't know
Speaker 6: whether he was saying the second most dangerous thing in
Speaker 6: the galaxy, the universe. Was he referring to himself as
Speaker 6: being the most, or is he referring to John as
Speaker 6: being the most?
Speaker 2: He was a friend of John. I thought the same thing, too.
Speaker 2: I had to rewatch that scene. But he was saying
Speaker 2: that the Manhunters are now the second most outside of John.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: I didn't know how to take that. Is he considering
Speaker 6: himself to be the most dangerous thing? And just being tongue-in-cheek,
Speaker 6: that's the second most dangerous thing behind me. But if
Speaker 6: it's John, that's a nice little ripple to have, too.
Speaker 3: Overall, a great ending for me. What about you, Lou?
Speaker 3: A great ending. I agree as well.
Speaker 5: I like how this scene piggybacked off the last scene
Speaker 5: to where the tension kind of comes to a head.
Speaker 5: And now, to Ken's point, you have the two different
Speaker 5: sides being pulled in different directions by the information that
Speaker 5: they get. And now I'm waiting episode three because they
Speaker 5: got to come back to each other with this information
Speaker 5: because he's still training him and there's still a mission
Speaker 5: at hand.
Speaker 3: So with them.
Speaker 5: losing some of the trust for each other. I really
Speaker 5: like how this ended, playing off their dynamic going into
Speaker 5: the next episode. It makes it really interesting as to, okay,
Speaker 5: where do we go from here and how do we
Speaker 5: handle each other moving forward? I thought that was a
Speaker 5: really dope way to end it. I like the dude, Ken.
Speaker 5: I remember him from, if you watched Banshee, he played
Speaker 5: in Banshee. It was a Showtime show or something like
Speaker 5: that where he played, he was the villain there and
Speaker 5: he did a really good job.
Speaker 3: So I'm expecting him to do Do you remember him
Speaker 3: from Banshee? I don't remember. I just know Banshee had Homelander,
Speaker 3: the guy who played Homelander. He had Homelander.
Speaker 5: He was a good guy. This dude right here was
Speaker 5: the bad guy. He was the main villain. And he
Speaker 5: did a really good job. So I think that he can,
Speaker 5: if they give him his just do as an actor
Speaker 5: and let him do his thing here, he can probably
Speaker 5: body this role because he definitely did a good job
Speaker 5: in that the last time I seen him.
Speaker 4: Gotcha.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked at this scene as far as like,
Speaker 2: As much as you're excited about learning about Jon Stewart's past, J.
Speaker 2: I'm also very excited to see more interactions and like
Speaker 2: kind of interrogation scenes between Hal Jordan and Sinestro because
Speaker 2: Lou Sinestro was the one that trained Hal Jordan to
Speaker 2: be a green light. So it's like it's a it's
Speaker 2: very interesting that he's in this show because that's who
Speaker 2: Hal learned from.
Speaker 3: And they got a toxic relationship.
Speaker 2: So it's interesting that now Hal and John got a
Speaker 2: semi-toxic relationship. So it's just like, it's interesting that those
Speaker 2: who train you, how they still impact your career trajectory
Speaker 2: in general. But yeah, I'm curious to see how we
Speaker 2: circle back to those conversations. But so far, again, they
Speaker 2: got me locked in. Like, they really can't do any wrong.
Speaker 2: Some people felt a certain kind of way about how they,
Speaker 2: the flying, how it doesn't always look. I guess they
Speaker 2: have issues with that. But I'm like, bruh, It's hard
Speaker 2: to make these fantastical shows, especially in a TV series,
Speaker 2: seem super authentic.
Speaker 3: So I'm fine with it. But overall, yeah, they haven't
Speaker 3: done anything wrong.
Speaker 2: Except for the suit. The suit could probably be a
Speaker 2: little bit better, but kind of like the MCU. But
Speaker 2: like the MCU, they always change up the suit in
Speaker 2: every iteration, every time you see it. So I feel
Speaker 2: like they're going to do something different for John when
Speaker 2: he wears it.
Speaker 3: I hope so.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Any other thoughts on this episode? Pretty good, man.
Speaker 4: I think I like where we're going.
Speaker 1: When you guys were saying it's a true detective story,
Speaker 1: I was like, how the hell are you going to
Speaker 1: pull this off? And it looks like they're finding a way,
Speaker 1: so I'm really liking the writing that we're getting so far,
Speaker 1: because as you pointed out earlier, Nick, all the reasons
Speaker 1: of why they're on the ground makes fucking sense. You know,
Speaker 1: so it's not some bullshit, so I'm messing with it
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Same.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to see if it's a hit, Ken.
Speaker 2: Because if it's a hit, then we can talk about
Speaker 2: different things.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a hit yet, though. I
Speaker 3: think hit, going to love.
Speaker 5: I think we need to get to episode four before
Speaker 5: you can call it.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 2: But I'm fine with it just being a show for us.
Speaker 2: It ain't got to be for the world. Not every
Speaker 2: HBO show. That's how we learn with industry. Industry isn't
Speaker 2: technically a hit, but it's a hit to.
Speaker 3: Us for those who watch it. It will be after
Speaker 3: this season. I mean, you hope so. This is their
Speaker 3: final season. Yeah, I think it'll pick up in the
Speaker 3: final season. I think they're going to go back and bench.
Speaker 3: All right. You don't think so, Taylor? I think people
Speaker 3: are going to bench and get ready for this last season.
Speaker 3: The industry is just industry, bro.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to get any bigger than
Speaker 6: what it is.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 6: I don't think niggas be caring about the finance shit
Speaker 6: as much as y'all. It's the finance shit. I get
Speaker 6: all the dynamics. Nobody be caring about all that financial
Speaker 6: shit they be talking about.
Speaker 2: It's only because Succession was just recently in our preview, too.
Speaker 3: So it's like, Succession was a hit show.
Speaker 2: Everybody talked about that show a lot.
Speaker 3: But Billions, I don't think Billions is... I think, I guess...
Speaker 3: all right let's put billions.
Speaker 6: To the side hbo is a whole different beast in
Speaker 6: showtime so billions isn't as because when you talk about
Speaker 6: an hbo hit show it's like pop culture like it's
Speaker 6: like yeah and this industry is not going to be
Speaker 6: that succession was because it had the family dynamic the
Speaker 6: characters were funny and interesting like.
Speaker 3: It it it just stuck out more like it had
Speaker 3: more to offer.
Speaker 6: In a world a bigger world So, yeah, industry is
Speaker 6: a very niche spot to be in.
Speaker 3: It ain't set in the U.S.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got a good point. It's way more niche
Speaker 5: than most of the stuff that you get on HBO.
Speaker 5: Because even when it started, it wasn't even a Sunday
Speaker 5: night show. It was like Friday. They used to drop
Speaker 5: them like Friday evening or some shit like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying. All right.
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