1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: If they want to prosecute or investigate anyone, start with 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Tom Holman and the fact that he appears to have 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: taken a fifty thousand dollars bribe. But they want to 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: sweep those charges under the table to allow this guy 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: to continue to unleash mass ICE agents on the American people. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: Sorry, if Congressman Hakim Jefferies doesn't like the fact that 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 2: ICE does its job and people who are in the 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: country illegally are being deported, I don't actually care about 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: his feelings on that at all. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: good to be with you. But let's at least address 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: this rumor that Tom Homan the borders are accepted a 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars bribe. 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: That's the allegation. 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: FBI agents uncovered that in November, and this was about 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: helping to get government contracts. And then what happened was 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: was that the whole thing was put to bed after 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Trump got into office by the FBI. 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz. 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: Today, good to be with you. Let me say it 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: again slowly. The argument is that Trump was coming into 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: office winning the election, tom Homan said to people, Hey, 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: you want contracts, government contracts. Give me fifty thousand dollars, 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: and I will help you get those government contracts. 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: That's the allegation. 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: The FBI and the Department of Justice waited to see 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: if Homan would fulfill his promise, but the case eventually 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: stalled and the case was closed after Trump won the election. 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: Now Homan is flat out denying this, calling it BS. 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: If you ask me if I believe it, the answer is, 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: of course, I do not believe it. I don't believe 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: it in any way, shape or form. As a matter 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: of fact, I find the whole thing so completely unbelievable, 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: so completely and clearly invented, that there's no other way 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: to look at it. That said, there'll be an investigation 35 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: or there won't be an investigation, and I can't start them, 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: I can't stop them, and I don't get worked up 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: by them. But the Joe Biden Justice Department decided they 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: were going to investigate Tom Homan, they had indications that 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: he took a bribe, and the Trump FBI then dropped 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: the entire case. I don't find that to be plausible 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: because I don't trust Joe Biden. Because Joe Biden wasn't 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: running the country and since we know a cabal of 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: anti American zealots was running the country, and yes they are, 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: and I can defend that anywhere, and I will. And 45 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: I know they were anti American because they were running 46 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: the country and not the President of the United States. 47 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: I go back to my commentary regarding Governor Josh Shapiro 48 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: in his comments about Kamala Harris. This new book she's 49 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: written one hundred and seven days, Kamala Harris has shown 50 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party to be as ugly and as bitter 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: as we thought. 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: And she's the worst of the worst, the worst of 53 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: the worst. 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm no fan of. 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: Pete Boodha Judge. 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: I think Pete Bodha Judge is a smarmy, smarmy character. 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: I think he'll do anything for the camera. I think 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 2: he'll do anything for power. You know what I think 59 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: is the least interesting part of Pete Boota Judge the 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: fact that he's gay. I do believe that created his popularity. 61 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: Here's this mayor of South Bend and he comes across 62 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: super cool, and he can He's got this great way 63 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: to turn a phrase, and Annie's gay. My gosh, we 64 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: need to elevate him. And that's exactly what happened. That's 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: the only reason he was able to run for president. 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: I think that is a factual statement, factual. But I 67 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: think when we discuss him in the federal par lunch 68 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: as the Secretary of Transportation, the worst hot, most awful 69 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: mess ever, his partner husband chasten some of the most 70 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: awful things that have been said. When they adopted these 71 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: kids to which I have no issue, and they're taking 72 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: the picture like they just gave birth, I was like, 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: good Lord. And then of course there was the bicycle. Oh, 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: I ride my bike to work, and you saw the 75 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: SUVs stopping pulling out his bike, and then him getting 76 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: on the bike and riding. 77 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: The rest of the way. This is a smarmy, smarmy dude. 78 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: So there's enough things that I can point out and 79 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: discuss policy wise or personal wise. 80 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: They have nothing to do with His sexuality. 81 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean anything. I don't of course I'm aware of it. 82 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: I am saying it's the least interesting thing about him. 83 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: But for Kamala Harris to say, well, I would have 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: picked him to be my running mate, but he was gay, 85 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: and America just couldn't handle that Black women married to 86 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: a Jewish guy and a gay man running for president. 87 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: No thanks, holy cow, which means the only thing you 88 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: saw in people to judge what was his sexuality? You 89 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: didn't think he could help you any other way. Nope, 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: too gay. Oh my gosh, what a thing to say. 91 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: I feel bad for bee booter, judge. He didn't deserve that. 92 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: There are so many ways to discuss him on policy 93 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: and on his practice, on his own personal ways of being, 94 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: in his own personal morality, and how he had handled 95 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: the job, and the things he did not do, and 96 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: the ways he attacks and never once saying, hey, Joe 97 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: Biden can't be president of the United States. We need 98 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: to invoke the twenty fifth Amendment. There's enough there. I 99 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: couldn't pick him because he was too gay, That's what 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris said. 101 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's the only thing she said. Unbelievable. 102 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: And so Joshapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania's like going with this, 103 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: What have you done here in this book? You didn't 104 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: pick jos Shapiro because he was too ambitious. Sure, that's it. 105 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 2: Too ambitious? You mean he's smart and you're a giant dope, 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, and he make you look like a giant 107 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: dope because Shapiro is smart. I think his politics are wrong, 108 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: but the guy's not dumb. He is capable. He is 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: a capable and adept politician. And she's like, what do 110 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: you even think you're doing here? It is something else, 111 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: It is remarkable. But this is the White House in 112 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: which we are coming from, these people who engage in 113 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: the most shallow stuff. All knew Joe Biden wasn't okay 114 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: and did nothing. You want me to believe that their 115 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: investigation into Tom Homan is legit? 116 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: No, I won't do that. I do not believe that 117 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: that's not true. 118 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: Like that woman on the plane, that mother blanking investigation 119 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: is not real, it's not it's not. 120 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: I won't buy in. 121 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: But if there should be some investigation, I can't start 122 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: when I can't stop one. I can't some allegations, some rumors, 123 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: and you've got Hakim Jeffries saying, well, we're going to investigate, 124 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: just to follow up on that. 125 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 4: Just to be clear, Tom Homan has not been charged. 126 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: DOJ stop the investigation? There are questions about that. So 127 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: what is Congress going to do to look into it? 128 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: Because if GOOJ doesn't do anything, the power is now 129 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: with Congress to look into it. What can you do 130 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: in the minority, well. 131 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: As Democrats, you know, we, as we've done in other instances, 132 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: including the most recent situation with the FCC chair and 133 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: the attack on the First Amendment that is ongoing, launch 134 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: our own internal investigation. Because Republicans haven't been functioning as 135 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: a separate and coequal branch of government. They are simply 136 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: a reckless and extreme rubber stamp for Donald Trump's out 137 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: of control agenda. And we are not going to wait 138 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: until we take the majority back in November of next year. 139 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: We're going to launch these investigations now and make sure, 140 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: just as we've done in the case of the Epstein file, 141 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: that we can present the truth, the whole truth, and 142 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: nothing but the truth to the American people and hold 143 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: people publicly accountable for their behavior. 144 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: Yes, hold people publicly accountable for their behavior, like Rashita 145 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: to leave and Ilhanamar. 146 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: That would be fatastic. I'm sorry. 147 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 2: What they didn't mean Rasheita to leave an Iilhanamar, allright, 148 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: my mistake. 149 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: I apologize. 150 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: Just I heard the Democratic leader in the House say 151 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: he wanted to hold people accountable, so I assume that 152 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: meant all people. It doesn't It doesn't mean all people. Okay, 153 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: now I've got it. I was confused for a second. 154 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: I thought everybody was normal. How wrong I am. They 155 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: can investigate from now to the end of time. They 156 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: can waste time, and they can go about destroying lives 157 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: this is what they do. Or we can make sure 158 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: they don't win any more elections and maybe after losing 159 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: and losing and losing and losing and losing, they will learn. 160 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: Maybe. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Cats today.