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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan Morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 2: Well, the crowd is already picking up here in the

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Speaker 2: convention Center. We are live on Radio Row. About a

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Speaker 2: half hour from now, Fernando Mendoza will meet the media

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Speaker 2: and that's really the big news item here on this Friday.

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Speaker 2: Workouts will be defensive backs inside of Lucas Oil Stadium

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Speaker 2: coming up here in about what ten minutes, James, we

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Speaker 2: got to get into the news item from yesterday and

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Speaker 2: the trade requests for Anthony Richardson Senior. Just all the

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Speaker 2: ramifications off of that, you know, to me, kind of

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Speaker 2: a expected obviously conclusion, but still doesn't lessen the jarring nature.

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Speaker 2: And Mark, I know you put out the poll. I

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Speaker 2: would say the early results quite interesting on if Colts

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Speaker 2: fans want Anthony Richardson to be traded or not.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, looking at it, from my perspective, it's less about

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Speaker 3: where we are now, because I think anybody with a

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Speaker 3: pulse in the city understand how we got here to

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Speaker 3: a degree. But again, I'm walking around the combine and

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Speaker 3: I have buddies of mine who are like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: what's going on, it is he worth taking a flyer on?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, how much time you got?

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Speaker 3: It's complicated, And I think my thinking is that overall

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Speaker 3: everyone involved deserves some level of blame in this not

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Speaker 3: working out. I know it's easy to point to the

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Speaker 3: player or easy to point to the GM, but also

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Speaker 3: want to be kind of conscious of everyone maybe not

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Speaker 3: doing what they're supposed to do. And Kevin I used

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Speaker 3: this line in my story yesterday. If we're looking at

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Speaker 3: this like a marriage, right, and they're going towards the divorce,

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Speaker 3: and couple's therapy ain't working. In that therapy session, both

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Speaker 3: sides are pointing their fingers saying you do not out

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Speaker 3: of your.

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Speaker 4: Vowels, And that to me is the crux of this.

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Speaker 3: The Colts drafted a player who they later said, Chris

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Speaker 3: ballad that is, we shouldn't have played as early. And

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Speaker 3: then for Anthony, he was a player who did not

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Speaker 3: uphold into the bargain.

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Speaker 4: Front a leadership standpoint.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you ask anybody who's not here in

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Speaker 3: this city to define Anthony Richardson, they'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that guy who tapped out of a game.

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Speaker 4: So that's hard to dismiss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to take the marriage analogy a

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Speaker 2: step further, the custody split ain't fifty to fifty. The

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Speaker 2: Colts invested a whole lot more and spending the fourth

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Speaker 2: overall pick on him than what they're about to get

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Speaker 2: and regard.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely for him.

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Speaker 2: And again, to me, that's kind of the jarring nature.

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Speaker 2: And I go back to twenty twenty two, James, that's

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Speaker 2: kind of where my head went yesterday and trying to

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Speaker 2: process all this. Think about that twenty twenty two season,

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Speaker 2: all the suffering you had during that year, and obviously

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Speaker 2: you win four games, you go with Frank Raig. Then

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Speaker 2: it's the Jeff Saturday situation, the biggest blown lead in

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Speaker 2: the NFL history. In the game at Minnesota, I think

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboy has just scored another fourth quarter touchdown

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Speaker 2: against the Colts. Yeah, what was that thirty points you

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Speaker 2: allowed in the fourth quarter of that game? You think

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Speaker 2: about all of that. The NFL says, if you go

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Speaker 2: through these horrific seasons, there's no lottery odds, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: be drafting high. And the Colts drafted high. They drafted

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Speaker 2: fourth overall, They drafted high. Obviously in all the respective

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Speaker 2: rounds after that. And if you look back on that

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three draft, James, you could very well make

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Speaker 2: the case it's the worst draft in the Chris Ballard

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Speaker 2: nine year era. And think about that. It's the draft

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Speaker 2: where he had the best picks, and that was supposed

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Speaker 2: to be the start of the rebuild that was. Remember

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Speaker 2: our conversation with Chris Ballard at this very table last year,

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Speaker 2: why do you feel like you're getting the ninth year?

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Speaker 2: And he pretty much said Jim Mersey sat him down

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Speaker 2: at the end of the twenty twenty two season and said,

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Speaker 2: we'll give you a chance here with the rebuild, the

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Speaker 2: first year head coach, the young quarterback, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: And you look at that draft and outside of about

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Speaker 2: stretch you, Jayleen Jones, although Jalen Jones with this defensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator doesn't look like that's much of an answer. It's

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Speaker 2: a horrific draft. And when you go four and twelve

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Speaker 2: and you say to your GM, we're going to give

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Speaker 2: you another chance, you have to hit on that next draft.

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Speaker 2: You've got to rebuild with the solid foundation there, and

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Speaker 2: it's a royal swing and miss as we sit here

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Speaker 2: now three years later evaluating it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's why when he came on

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Speaker 3: our show Wednesday morning, and again we appreciate the time

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Speaker 3: on our airwaves, but a little shot of well, no

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Speaker 3: one ever really gives me bleep in person because they're

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Speaker 3: just don't know.

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Speaker 4: Where you at.

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Speaker 3: Because there are plenty of Colts fans who would love

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Speaker 3: to share their thoughts with Chris Ballard and and kind

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Speaker 3: of perhaps not come down a peg to say, Hey,

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Speaker 3: while you're saying we're scared of, you know, criticizing you

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Speaker 3: in person or we're crazy online, what have you given

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Speaker 3: us to perhaps not have that stance? What have you

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Speaker 3: given us to have faith or belief in your last

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Speaker 3: good team was in twenty twenty, Kevin Bowen. The world

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Speaker 3: was different back then, very different. I mean, what are

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Speaker 3: you talking about? You talking about twenty twenty. I have

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Speaker 3: to remind myself the last time you made the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: that was with the other version of Philip Rivers, not

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Speaker 3: the one you tried to get to Salvager season this

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Speaker 3: year five years later. So again, if we look at

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Speaker 3: NFL years like dog years, it seems like he's had

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Speaker 3: a lifetime to turn this franchise around and it just

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Speaker 3: hasn't happened for whatever reason. And again, is it all

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Speaker 3: on Chris Ballard. No, But if you're looking at to

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Speaker 3: use your analogy, Kevin, you know Cussody split, he's taking

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Speaker 3: the most kids with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look kind of at the blame game

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Speaker 2: and all of this, you know you can split up

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Speaker 2: the pie in whatever piece you would like. You know,

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Speaker 2: there is obviously a lack of maturity. I think it's

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Speaker 2: fair to say with the player that I think we

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Speaker 2: saw play out for Anthony Richardson, I would argue the

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Speaker 2: coaching element of handing him the starting job so early,

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Speaker 2: and again that captaincy if you really had leadership questions

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Speaker 2: or whatever, self motivational questions, whatever you want to label

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Speaker 2: with Richardson, in no way, shape or form shoul those

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Speaker 2: keys have been handed to him, right. And then I

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Speaker 2: also go back to the scouting process, and this is

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Speaker 2: where I am. You know, when you look at that

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Speaker 2: So you had Bryce Young, you had c J. Stroud,

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Speaker 2: traded up to draft Bryce Young. If you do the

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Speaker 2: evaluation process James of Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud, Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 2: and if you sit there at whatever, let's call it

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Speaker 2: you have to do everything in your power to get

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Speaker 2: of a contentment with Anthony Richardson, and that to me

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Speaker 2: is kind of where the miss scouting element comes into play.

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Speaker 2: You thought the development project would have been easier. I

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Speaker 2: guess with him you banked on the ability to try

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Speaker 2: and improve accuracy, which was something that we of course

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Speaker 2: wildly debated throughout this process. So you know, for me,

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Speaker 2: you can lay slices of blame really at all three

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Speaker 2: out of Florida, whether it's the actual coaching once you

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Speaker 2: got him in the NFL, or certainly on the player

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Speaker 2: himself general maturation to tap out everything that it takes

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Speaker 2: to be an NFL starting quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know me, I like to point the finger.

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Speaker 4: So if I got to pick.

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Speaker 3: The one element or one person to point the finger at, first,

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Speaker 3: I do go back to the evaluation process of Anthony

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Speaker 3: because they ranted and raved about his leadership, about his

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Speaker 3: Anthony is not a bad person. I think his personal

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Speaker 3: story how he got to the NFL with his mom

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Speaker 3: and his little brother is endearing, it's inspiring.

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Speaker 4: But you didn't see any of these red flags. You

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Speaker 4: didn't see any of them.

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Speaker 3: And then Kevin, I go to that moment, was this

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Speaker 3: maybe two years ago whatever press conference that was with

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Speaker 3: did it take benching Anthony for you all to finally

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Speaker 3: get through to him.

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Speaker 4: Because you know that's a drastic measure.

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Speaker 3: When you bench QB one, everyone in the NFL hear

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Speaker 3: is about that. That's a stain on your resume that

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Speaker 3: is hard to get off. And the response from Chris

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Speaker 3: Ballad at the time was comparing Anthony to a child

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Speaker 3: not cleaning his room. Well, you got kids, James. You

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Speaker 3: you know I ain't always been the greatest father. So

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Speaker 3: except me to show up. But nevertheless, for Anthony, I

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Speaker 3: thought that was an egregious admittance of why it hasn't worked.

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Speaker 3: The dude you drafted to be the face of your franchise.

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Speaker 3: You're asking him to do something, and you said, well, James,

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Speaker 3: like having kids who don't clean their room.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes they just don't do it.

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Speaker 3: And you let him keep playing until he tapped out

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Speaker 3: to kind of basically say face and say, well, you

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Speaker 3: know what, he's got to sit down.

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Speaker 2: Now, what do you will is chiming in here asking this,

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Speaker 2: how much involvement do you think Jim Mersay had in

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Speaker 2: the selection of Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 4: I think he had a big involvement, and this is why.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he forced the pick on Chris Bioten

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Speaker 4: I think he forced the quarterback pick on him.

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Speaker 3: I really do think that, because do you remember it

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Speaker 3: right after they drafted Anthony, I forgot who asked Jim

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Speaker 3: mersay and rest in peace.

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Speaker 4: I love his candor for better or worse.

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Speaker 3: He told us, well, if Anthony wasn't there before, we

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Speaker 3: were gonna take Will Levis, who didn't go into the

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Speaker 3: second round. So I think the pick was always gonna

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Speaker 3: be quarterback. And at that point, if you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: move up, if you're not gonna have the perhaps agency

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Speaker 3: to do so, to release some draft capital and go

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Speaker 3: get the guy you maybe want it more than Anthony.

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Speaker 3: And you were kind of stuck with picking him anyway,

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Speaker 3: because that's the thing. They didn't really have a choice

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Speaker 3: to pick any other player at that point because Jim

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Speaker 3: Mercy was ready to find a prime solution.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, hindsight can be very twenty twenty, but I

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Speaker 2: literally go back to twenty twenty and think that should

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Speaker 2: have been the year that you moved on and and

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Speaker 2: tried to, you know, find the long term solution. To me,

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Speaker 2: the band aid quarterback approach that Chris Poward took was

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Speaker 3: He was a twenty one third round pick up, not

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Speaker 2: that have done to his consistency, his methodical nature, which

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Speaker 2: I think he struggled with at quarterback, and then obviously

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Speaker 4: I think that's a good debate to have.

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Speaker 3: And ultimately, Kevin, it just felt like and I was

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Speaker 3: if you asked me if Dale was gonna play seventeen games,

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Speaker 4: And he did play less than that. But when your opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Arose, you for the worst luck ever weren't available, and

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Speaker 3: I think that was the last shot at any type

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Speaker 3: have supplanted Daniel Jones, but I think his overall approve

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Speaker 4: Because that's the part where I mean.

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Speaker 3: But boy, to sustain an injury that severe and not

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Speaker 4: And it just adds to.

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Speaker 4: Like, hey, can somebody come get me? And they have

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Speaker 2: Back crowd filling up here at the combine Fernanda Mendoza

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Speaker 2: Mark dykedn how has my strip tease settled in for you?

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm still getting over and wiping some cold

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Speaker 4: Still mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't think that's how this Friday was gonna start.

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Speaker 3: What they had a little competition, you know, Kevin was

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Speaker 5: I know, I know someone that was taking pictures of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah we did. Yeah, you saw our friends here

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Speaker 2: Cassie Carlson. Yeah she she turned around her in the

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Speaker 2: you to the shop in Indye. Mark Dyton and I

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Speaker 2: have purchased the lovely Hammond Bears sweaters. I mean we

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Speaker 4: You should have really should have.

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Speaker 2: So she was curious where I got said shirt there,

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Speaker 4: Shirts you also did just wear it up.

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Speaker 4: Don't want that, and I'm like, you know what that

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Speaker 2: The all lights just boy, hey, they just turned the

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Speaker 3: They're looking at your boys. Who's you know, more Millennie

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: Man, But boy, now all of a sudden, you're like,

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Speaker 2: Been looking at for the last hour too. Boy, it

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Speaker 4: A KB, everyone looks a little better when when the

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Speaker 2: Boy, shout out to kJ going on a date tonight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, make sure you meet her at a very well

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Speaker 2: To say, kJ, you were asking for some good vibes there. Boy,

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Speaker 2: where are we at on our poll? Should the Colts trade?

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Speaker 4: Yes, he's like the strip tease paulow.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't going for that, but then when they made sure,

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Speaker 5: There we are currently seventy saying yes seventy nine percent

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Speaker 5: Twenty one percent say no.

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Speaker 2: Eighty twenty Yeah, I feel like that that sounds about right.

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Speaker 2: I am curious, James, isn't it a bad quarterback draft class?

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Speaker 2: Would that help the cause for the Colts at all?

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Speaker 3: I have talked to a few of our national reporters

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Speaker 3: be like, you know what we'd rather in essence, like,

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Speaker 3: if we're giving up a sixth round pick, let's make

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Speaker 3: our sixth round pick quarterback Anthony Richardson. He's only twenty

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Speaker 3: you lean in that scenario, Kevin? Would you lean towards

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Drew Awler from Penn State.

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Speaker 2: at eight thirty. Kriscall. He's been a very busy man

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Speaker 2: for visit. Indy calls this place home and sounds like

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Speaker 2: Have you, uh, you ran into anybody of note here?

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Speaker 2: I was walking back to my car yesterday and all

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Speaker 4: John Fox used to be on the staff.

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Speaker 2: For the Pols, coach of Mark Dyton.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I went to yard house.

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Speaker 2: I believe Wednesday afternoon over under sixty two TVs inside

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Speaker 3: Oh, I might take the under, but it's a good

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Speaker 3: he's sitting there telling all these stories about how the

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that was funny. I saw my dad. Dad He's, oh, Man, like, you're, you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the budget was, you know, the same

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Speaker 3: for me as it was with John Fox. I don't

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Speaker 3: think he cares too much about getting the receipt and

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Speaker 3: making your expense the right meal and things like that.

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Speaker 4: So he is, yeah, senior analyst.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we're chatting with our friend here Cassie from Fox.

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Speaker 3: By the way, he's with the Bills. Just to clear

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Speaker 3: that up, Bill's senior analyst John.

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Speaker 2: Fox Fox thirty two Chicago. She said she was over

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Speaker 2: at Saint Elmo last night and guess who got a

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Speaker 2: sandy ovation when he walked through that restaurant over there.

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Speaker 4: We know who that is, Fanana Mendoza.

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Speaker 2: Baby, he is truly a rock star.

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Speaker 3: He is, and you know what's crazy. Her response was, well,

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Speaker 3: why are they so excited? And she didn't mean it

452
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Speaker 3: in a rude way, but it's like, you don't get.

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Speaker 2: It, Yeah, you don't get it right right. I wanted to.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get up and be like, girl, we

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Speaker 3: was downhill at the flow. Well, what's Michael Jory with

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Speaker 3: the roof?

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Speaker 4: Is the ceiling? We rising the roof? The ceiling is

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Speaker 4: the roof? I was stilling.

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Speaker 2: Her started from the bottom that we hear, Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 4: Mark. I tried to.

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Speaker 3: I almost try to tell her, like woman, you know

462
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Speaker 3: and you know Bears adjacent reporter. I think the Bears

463
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Speaker 3: fans fell after Caleb Caleb down. Sorry, Caleb Williams had

464
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Speaker 3: a couple of those crazy throws this season. We weren't

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Speaker 3: sitting here in Indianapolis, going, uh, why are they so excited.

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Speaker 6: By Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And that's basically what Franda.

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Speaker 3: Mendoza did against Penn State as well, he did knocking

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Speaker 3: off Ohio State. That's what they did host hoisting up

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Speaker 3: the national championship trophy. So I was thinking, oh, tred Lightley,

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Speaker 3: you're in Indiana, Indianapolis Territory.

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Speaker 2: Picture like the standing ovation and say, no, I mean

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Speaker 2: that's that's quite the white collar crowd all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden to be standing up, and you know it's one

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Speaker 2: thing a Nicks or you know, shout out. You know,

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Speaker 2: I guess rest in peaceful village deli action, you know,

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Speaker 2: someplace down there in Bloomington. But I'm trying to picture

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Speaker 2: all these big wigs as saying, all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: standing up, and.

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Speaker 4: You know, such a nice young man. He's a great

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Speaker 4: example for my son. He can date my daughter now.

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Speaker 2: He sounds like Dorothy. Happy birthday to Dorothy, shout out

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Speaker 2: to Dorothy.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to her this morning when I was

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Speaker 3: trying to get into the Indiana Convince Center.

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Speaker 4: I was like, Grandma, I got it run because the

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Speaker 4: Mark boy locked out.

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Speaker 2: We almost had a j Querry situation years ago. Stop

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Speaker 2: that stop that James Boyd called me at six fifty

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Speaker 2: four and I thought there was this ain't good No,

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Speaker 2: so door was locked.

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Speaker 3: For whatever reason they told me today they just didn't

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Speaker 3: open the doors officially until seven. And I guess before

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Speaker 3: the door I had been going through was being opened

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Speaker 3: at six fifty maybe somebody got like a slap on

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Speaker 3: the wrist or something. But I was like, it's the

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Speaker 3: last day that I got to be here, So you've.

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Speaker 4: Been open his door.

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Speaker 5: You can't take any chances.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get that, But shout out to the

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Speaker 3: nice security lady who, unlike the other security people, looked

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Speaker 3: at my credential and thought, there's no way anybody in

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Speaker 3: their right mouth be up this early in the dark

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Speaker 3: and the cold, not here to actually do something of important.

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Speaker 4: So glad to be here and keep the non late

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Speaker 4: streak alive. I'll have you know. I'm ready, baby, all right, banana.

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Speaker 5: On the whiteboard, ready to write zero days without a late.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna leave you guys, I promise the IU.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback and the chaut at the media here. In about

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Speaker 2: five we'll talk with field Yates from ESPN coming up

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Speaker 2: on the other side. It is the fan morning show.

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Speaker 2: We're right around it out the week at the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Convention Center, NFL Combine Live ninety three five, one oh

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Speaker 2: seven five the fans all right, eight o'clock hour here.

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Speaker 2: It is pretty good sized crowd in front of Fernanda

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Speaker 2: Menosa right now on the other side of the curtain

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Speaker 2: as he is chatty with the media and speaking on

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Speaker 2: the media. One of our favorites. You see him certainly

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Speaker 2: all over ESPN the First Draft podcast with mel kiper

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Speaker 2: Junior as a terrific listen again. He is obviously one

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Speaker 2: of our favorites. He is the great Field Yates from ESPN.

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Speaker 2: He's with us on the Payless Slickers hotline. Field Good

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Speaker 2: Friday morning too. You always appreciate the time, sir.

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Speaker 1: Thank you glad to do it, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: I hope you guys are having a good week here.

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Speaker 1: It's just another exemplary showing from the great city of Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: the great state of Indiana. I'm biased, perhaps because we've

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Speaker 1: been doing it here for a long time, but if

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Speaker 1: anybody ever asked me and gave me the choice, there's

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Speaker 1: no way I would ever move this event from this awesome,

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Speaker 1: awesome city.

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Speaker 4: He sounds very unbiased.

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Speaker 2: There. Beloe should build a statue right outside you know,

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Speaker 2: Peyton Fernanda Mendoza Field ate should be the statues outside

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Speaker 2: of Lugoso station field. You don't know this, but you

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Speaker 2: have something in common with my wife. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if i've ever you know, started off an interview, Oh

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Speaker 2: boy with with the guests. Is that, uh, you both

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Speaker 2: have issues in securing your air pods? Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? But I you know what though, I'm in I'm

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Speaker 1: in the green right now. So I had a new

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Speaker 1: year resolution this year, which is to stop losing these

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Speaker 1: freaking figs.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And one of my you know, my many challenges and

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Speaker 1: struggles in life. I've got two young children as well,

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Speaker 1: so they constantly grab the air POD's case and you know,

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Speaker 1: they just they take them around with them. They don't

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Speaker 1: actually use them, but they think the case is a

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Speaker 1: fun thing to put into their little basket of trunk

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Speaker 1: kids that I feel like develops every so often, and

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Speaker 1: I I am just a plus losing them. But I

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Speaker 1: lost a pair. And I know this because I posted

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Speaker 1: on social media on February seventeenth, that was my first

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six by February nineteenth, I waved a

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Speaker 1: white flag I'm not a wired headphones guy. And I

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Speaker 1: went and I bought a new pair, and then I

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Speaker 1: arrived in Indianapolis. I was unpacking my bag here two

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Speaker 1: days ago, and the pair of jeans that I apparently

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Speaker 1: last bore on February seventeenth was in my bag, and

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Speaker 1: so were my AirPods. So I'm not at two pairs.

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Speaker 2: It's huge, unbelievable. That is, I found my wife's AirPods

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Speaker 2: before in the dryer. That's what we have resorted to

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Speaker 2: in the bow and household. You can't teach your discipline

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Speaker 2: at all. Okay, let's transition. Speaking of discipline, obviously, the

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Speaker 2: news yesterday here from a local standpoint is the trade

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Speaker 2: request from Anthony Richardson. If I set maybe the over

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Speaker 2: under at a I don't know, fourth and a half

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Speaker 2: round pick, if that can even be a thing, would

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Speaker 2: you say over or under for trade compensation for Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 4: Who I like that, I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 1: So I would over be like culture to seven and

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Speaker 1: under would be close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll go.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I think I'll go slightly over. This

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Speaker 1: is you know, I don't want this to come across

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Speaker 1: as is untime to Anthony, But in some ways this

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Speaker 1: may end up being a little bit more of like

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Speaker 1: a salary unloading than it is recouping value on an asset.

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Speaker 4: And this is you know, the culture competing.

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Speaker 1: Last year, they were obviously until injuries derailed everything. This

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Speaker 1: this is a team that we thought could be a

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Speaker 1: real challenger in the AFC. So last year when you

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Speaker 1: know they're going through games and Anthony is really a

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Speaker 1: non factor at all, and then he has the unusual

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Speaker 1: health situation where he's back at the end of the

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Speaker 1: season and or getting back at the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: and the team's quarterback situation is for the line and unprecedented. Uh,

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Speaker 1: He's still not really it doesn't sound like much of

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Speaker 1: a consideration the messaging, at least the way I interpreted.

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Speaker 1: I think some people are on the NFL interpreted it's

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Speaker 1: just like he's just not good enough to be our

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. So I think it would have to be

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Speaker 1: a team that is looking for something that has worked recently,

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Speaker 1: including for the Colts, which is a you know, second,

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Speaker 1: third or fourth act quarterback, and Anthony's case, it will

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Speaker 1: be a second act, right he has only played for

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis to this point, and they're saying he was good

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Speaker 1: enough to go fourth overall, which may have been rich

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Speaker 1: in a lot of team's eyes, but it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: the Colts took him three rounds ahead of where he

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Speaker 1: was going to go. He was going to go somewhere

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Speaker 1: in the first round. Somebody who studied Anthony coming out

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Speaker 1: of Florida is going to take a chance on the

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Speaker 1: unique skill set he does bring to the table, albeit

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Speaker 1: one that has some limitations to it. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's somewhere in the late day three

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Speaker 1: range would make sense to me. I know that they

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Speaker 1: kill to swallow for Chris Ballard and the entire organization

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Speaker 1: because they drafted and fourth overall, but you know, there's

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Speaker 1: still real money involved in you know, last I checked,

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Speaker 1: we're what ten days away from the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: legal negotiating window, and the Colts had have two of

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Speaker 1: the biggest free agents in the entire league, and I

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Speaker 1: think one of them is probably bound for the tag

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Speaker 1: and you don't want to risk losing.

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Speaker 6: The other one.

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Speaker 1: So every dollar does count right now.

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Speaker 4: One quick follow up on Anthony and Thanksfield.

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Speaker 3: As of ESPN for joining the payofstickers highline here on

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Speaker 3: one seven pile of the fan. But Field, if you

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Speaker 3: were a GM, you put the hat on you're making

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Speaker 3: the decisions. Would you be more willing to take a

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Speaker 3: perhaps one year flyer for a six round pick, let's

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Speaker 3: call it on Anthony Richardson. Would you use that six

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Speaker 3: round pick to draft a young quarterback if you're trying

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Speaker 3: to add some juice to your quarterback room.

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Speaker 1: So I would probably take the swing on Anthony because

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Speaker 1: even if he is imperfect, you know, like the guys

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Speaker 1: that are gonna be going the sixth round this year

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Speaker 1: amongst the quarterback prospects, have nowhere close to the skill

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Speaker 1: set of what Anthony brings to the table, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I know that, Hey, you know it's a perfect No. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: not those there's a reason why we're having this conversation.

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Speaker 1: But Anthony is obviously the tousand guy. I am in

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Speaker 1: favor speaking generally of teams using Day three picks on

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Speaker 1: veteran players, even not that Anthony's played a ton of ball,

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Speaker 1: but we have a general sense of what he is

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Speaker 1: until the day I retire from this business. I think

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Speaker 1: his throw in Week one of the twenty eight twenty

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Speaker 1: four season, who is one of the single greatest throws

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Speaker 1: that I've ever witnessed.

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Speaker 2: I know it sounds like both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was, it was. It was a

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Speaker 1: beautiful thing, right, So I think I would rather go

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Speaker 1: down that route if I were a team. So I

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Speaker 1: think there'll be I think there will be a market.

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Speaker 1: It just it's a little complicated, and uh, it's it's

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Speaker 1: not it's not easy for the team to admit if

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Speaker 1: you're having error and moving on. But it also isn't

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Speaker 1: easy to find a deal given some of the money involved.

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Speaker 1: And I think there are teams that are saying at

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Speaker 1: this point, we may have to spin the care ofselves first,

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Speaker 1: with other quarterbacks that might we might prioritize as potential

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Speaker 1: starting options before we get to Anthony as a likely

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Speaker 1: developmental option.

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Speaker 2: That's a voice of filiates for me ESPN, and he's

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Speaker 2: with us here on the Payless Liquors Hotline as we

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Speaker 2: were chatting for live from the NFL Combine. Okay, let's

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Speaker 2: switch gears to what you said about the two free

661
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Speaker 2: agents for the Colts, certainly two of the higher ones

662
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Speaker 2: in the league. In regards to Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any concern that either could hit the

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Speaker 2: open market when things get real here, like you said

665
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Speaker 2: in about ten days.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, I mean absolutely, and it's I mean obviously

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Speaker 1: if Daniel were healthy, you were not coming off of

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Speaker 1: an achilles hair, there's a zero percent chance I think

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Speaker 1: we're talking about anything other than Daniel Jones and the

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Speaker 1: Colts maybe already having a new deal in place. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the season goes down differently and there's probably you know,

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Speaker 1: probably finish is better. A lot of things are different, right,

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Speaker 1: But you know, if the Colts and because he's injured,

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Speaker 1: Daniel will be would be a slightly complicated quarterback free

675
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Speaker 1: agent if he does hit the open market, but he

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Speaker 1: would have suitors for sure. I just think given positional value,

677
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Speaker 1: you probably are more prone to the safe play is

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Speaker 1: to just had your quarterback if you don't have a

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Speaker 1: deal for either of those two players in place. Alex PIERSO,

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is news to you guys. You know,

681
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Speaker 1: if we were doing a radio show that was emanating

682
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Speaker 1: across every NFL market, people might not totally recognize this yet.

683
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Speaker 1: But you know, a soon to be twenty six year

684
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Speaker 1: old wide receiver going back to back seasons, has had

685
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Speaker 1: over twenty one yards per catch, coming off by far

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Speaker 1: his best year of his career playing a position that

687
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Speaker 1: makes a ton of money. You know, if I think

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Speaker 1: I've been saying, I think the number for Alex Pierce,

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Speaker 1: you go four years, just as a sort of an

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Speaker 1: easy number to that that's a fairly standard number for

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Speaker 1: free agent contracts. I think the floor is one hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars over a four year deal for Alex Pierce.

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Speaker 1: And if the Colts can't get there, if they can't

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Speaker 1: if Alex is gathering intell, if his representation this week

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Speaker 1: is gathering intel, and next week during the legal negotiating

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Speaker 1: window and hearing hey don't stop at one hundred because

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Speaker 1: we might have one hundred and five or one hundred

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Speaker 1: and eight whatever it is, available, then you know he's

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Speaker 1: going to have a real shot to be one of

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Speaker 1: them about the highest paid free agents on the open market.

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Speaker 1: He is, I think, along with Tyler Linderbaum, in a

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Speaker 1: very unique category. Linder Bomb's more accomplished player, to be clear,

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Speaker 1: but two guys who are true blue free agents in

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Speaker 1: the open market, in part because of circumstances that are

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Speaker 1: due for I think both potentially twenty you know, I

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Speaker 1: think easily twenty plus million dollars per year for Alex

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Speaker 1: and Linderbaum could be the highest paid center in NFL

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Speaker 1: history by next week. So it's a tricky one for

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Speaker 1: the cult. It's a good thing to have good players.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think if I were the am

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Speaker 1: and I I'm sure they're in this vote is I'd

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Speaker 1: be extremely motivated to get one of these two deals

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Speaker 1: wrapped if you could before that tag window closes.

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Speaker 3: Fiel will transition again to the NFL Draft Combine and

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Speaker 3: the players actually here, not more or less the chatter

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Speaker 3: around the combine. I know a lot of deals and

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Speaker 3: hands agreements get done here. But Franda Mendoza, I believe

718
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Speaker 3: he's picking to the media right now, expended to be

719
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Speaker 3: the number one pick in the draft for the Las

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Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 4: Why do you think.

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Speaker 3: He positioned himself to be the number one pick after

723
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Speaker 3: the year he had, Because if you told me coming

724
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Speaker 3: into the last colle football season he'd be the number

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Speaker 3: one pick, I probably look at you a little sideways.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was a Fernando guy coming into this

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Speaker 1: last season.

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Speaker 4: I will not take a Victory Leaf build a statue.

729
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Speaker 1: No no, no, no on now, hold on now, I'm not

730
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Speaker 1: going to sit here and tell you I had number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay in my mind.

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Speaker 1: But I had a very close friend in the scouting

734
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Speaker 1: world who was in Bloomington this past year for their

735
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Speaker 1: pro day, meaning like the spring of twenty twenty five,

736
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Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, I'm just telling you, you got

737
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Speaker 1: to watch this kid they picked up from cal because

738
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Speaker 1: he freaking flings it. And he uh. And you know,

739
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: weeks later or sorry, months later, when the season began

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Speaker 1: and Fernando starts to play, well, it's like, oh my god,

741
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: like this guy needs to be I told him, iad

742
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Speaker 1: he needs to go ask for a raise.

743
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Speaker 4: What you need to do because you were on it man.

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Speaker 1: And Fernando just, I don't know, just an easy, easy

745
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: evaluation decision this year, guys. Uh, I don't know that.

746
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Speaker 1: And maybe this sounds a little bit prisoner of the moment.

747
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: This might be the easiest number one pick in a decade,

748
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, I like, think about even Andrew luck I

749
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: guess Andrew luck would be well, you know even that

750
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luckier. You guys can recall this like there were

751
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: some people that thought, like, do you have to have

752
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: the RG three conversation? You want the hydrotrophy that year, right,

753
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: the Trevor Lawrence year. And perhaps these people were just

754
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: looking for attention, but there were some Zach Wilson optimists

755
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: right in part because of the quarterback class that Fernando's in.

756
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Speaker 1: There's there's there's no discussion whatsoever about anybody other than

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00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza. So he had an incredible season. I'm sure

758
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Speaker 1: right now he is winning over those who are covering

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00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: him at the press conference out that you guys don't

760
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: know this, but he's an excellent young man. He's made

761
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: of the right stuff. He has got a challenge ahead

762
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: of him with the Raiders. If that organization can change

763
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: its ways and provide some patience for the first time

764
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Speaker 1: in a while, I think things are going to be

765
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Speaker 1: looking up sooner rather than later in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: He is a man that has got great air pods

767
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: luck right now, he's got great hair, and he's got

768
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: great things to say about the city of Indianapolis. So

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Speaker 2: we love him for all of that. Field Yates, always

770
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Speaker 2: enjoy our chats. Enjoy the rest of your stay in

771
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Speaker 2: Indy and we'll certainly be watching and listening over on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Tom Max, I need picks for next year early. I'm

773
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: looking to get ahead of a Curby.

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Speaker 2: He had a nice run to end last year, but

775
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: we'll have to call him out of retirement. All off,

776
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 2: Philip riv because field Yates said he a did.

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Speaker 1: He have a HOOFS tournament pick?

778
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Speaker 4: Like tough one last night for Purdue?

779
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: Obviously, but can we get a like do we have

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Speaker 1: a final pick for like a final forecast or no?

781
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Speaker 2: That is a great, great question. We might have to

782
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: dig out some I don't know what helmets we could

783
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: do for basketball, but he'll find Cinderella and he will

784
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: let us know.

785
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: Hey, that Cinderella plays. It's basketball in Oxford, Ohio, which

786
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: I believe is where Miami, Ohio is twenty eight No, baby,

787
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the most underdiscussed stories in sports.

788
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 4: But that's neither here nor there.

789
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Speaker 2: They're playing again tonight. A lot of Indiana flavor on

790
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: that roster. Feel Thank you, my man.

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00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: See you guys.

792
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's chat with the man that his presence

793
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: is one of the reasons why we have this job.

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00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: Frankly and why we are here at the NFL Combine.

795
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 4: Right, is he him locked outside?

796
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, he calls his place home. He

797
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: is a great. Chris Call, the executive vice president of

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Speaker 2: Visit Indy. Chris always good to see you.

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Speaker 6: Gentlemen. Welcome to the seventeenth largest convention center the United States,

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Speaker 6: the epicenter of the football universe, the NFL Combine.

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Speaker 2: Talk.

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Speaker 6: That's talk it is. We did day one is in

803
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Speaker 6: the books. Felt good about it, a lot of fans,

804
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Speaker 6: a lot of media buzz. So glad to be on

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00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 6: the show. Thanks for having me on.

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00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 2: Now let's start here. You maybe have said this before

807
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: to us when either when Lucas Oil was built, it

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00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: was built with this event in mind. Correct, You're right.

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00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 6: Good memory, Kevin. When we built the stadium, it was

810
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 6: not only for culture related football, although that's important. Has

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Speaker 6: four locker rooms so that when we host the Final

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00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 6: four that's in play. It's with meeting rooms and exhibition

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Speaker 6: halls for conventions, and fiber optic cable is running from

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Speaker 6: those meeting rooms, from those facilities, from the meeting rooms

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Speaker 6: inside all the way town you health, So that we

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Speaker 6: knew MRIs and imaging would need to be done, it

817
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 6: would need to be done quickly and efficiently. So it

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Speaker 6: was with the NFL Combine, major conventions, colts, and NCAA

819
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Speaker 6: related basketball on mine when that thing went up in eight.

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Speaker 6: So here we are and it's still effective.

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Speaker 3: Chris, we saw you all get an extension for the

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Speaker 3: NFL Draft Combine. You have to make a pitch every

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Speaker 3: couple of years, I assume maybe on an annual basis.

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Speaker 3: What is the same about maybe you're pitching what has

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Speaker 3: to change or grow and evolve as you continue to

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Speaker 3: make this event home here.

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Speaker 6: Well we fend off competition. We know that other major

828
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Speaker 6: cities are again back here prospecting this event under one roof.

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Speaker 6: That is our mantra. We can keep all of the prospects,

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Speaker 6: all of the media, all of the owners, everyone under

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Speaker 6: one roof with all the connected hotel rooms into the

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Speaker 6: convention Center for media row for press conference, and then

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Speaker 6: into the stadium for all the workouts. By the way,

834
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Speaker 6: all the prospects stay at the Crown Plaza, which is

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Speaker 6: attached to the Convention Center, in the hotel closest to

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Speaker 6: the stadium. So one roof has been our mantra to

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Speaker 6: keep this event successful In Indianapolis now into the future.

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Speaker 6: These cities they want the event. They see what this

839
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Speaker 6: has become. Fan facing thirty thirty five thousand fans and

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Speaker 6: visitors will descend inside and outside Lucas Oil for the

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Speaker 6: fan experience, and you all the media twelve thousand credentialed

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Speaker 6: media bantering about the x's and o's, but also the

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00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 6: city behind the x's and o's. So this is a

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Speaker 6: very sought after event. We broke a record last year

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Speaker 6: with thirty thousand visitors were eyeing thirty two to thirty

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Speaker 6: five because of the weather.

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Speaker 2: Well, Phil Gates, we just had him on from ESPN.

848
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Speaker 2: If you need to cut any audio for marketing reasons,

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Speaker 2: he was glowing.

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Speaker 6: I was listening and watching and he is a big

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Speaker 6: Indie fan.

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00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: Big Indie fan, great, great dude. So it's nice to

853
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: have that chat with him. Okay. I In years past,

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00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: you've sat with us and said on the doctor for

855
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: this week, is securing the combine for future years? James

856
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: just said, you've taken care of business.

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Speaker 6: Twenty seven, twenty seven and twenty eight hour years.

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Speaker 2: You announced that with Pat McAfee a few weeks back.

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Speaker 2: Is the draft on your schedule for this week and

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Speaker 2: trying to get that to call Indie home.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you asked that question. Absolutely, we're not going

862
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 6: to going to be sheepish about the fact that the

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Speaker 6: Indiana Sports Corps, the City of Indianapolis, IU Health, the Colts,

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Speaker 6: this facility, Lucas Or Stadium, the Convention Center, in Visit Indy.

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Speaker 6: We're coming together. In fact, we have a pitch today

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Speaker 6: with the NFL executives. Another benefit of hosting the event,

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Speaker 6: they're already here. We've expressed our interest in wanting the draft,

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Speaker 6: and now we will formally, led by the Colts to

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Speaker 6: the sports corep in Visitinity. We will formally say we

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Speaker 6: would like to draft into the twenty thirties range. We'll

871
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Speaker 6: tell you the exact date because we know there are

872
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 6: other major cities that are saying which year do we want,

873
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 6: but we want twenty thirty and beyond. We want to

874
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 6: be a specific host of the draft and put it

875
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 6: into our portfolio. So we're going to pitch them today.

876
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 6: The weather looks great, and wish us luck and.

877
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: The site for that we have. You know, it's been

878
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: rumored on you know whatever, Jake Querry, you know IMS,

879
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: you know over there, but No, it's more of a

880
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: central location to the immediacy of downtown. Correct, it is.

881
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 6: We're looking at Military Park, We're looking at American Legion

882
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 6: mal We're looking at maybe the parking lots here of

883
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 6: the stadium which we activate around Monument Circle. The NCAA

884
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 6: is coming for the Men's Final Four and they're activating

885
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 6: American Legion Mall. We think that's a viable location. White

886
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 6: River State Parks a viable location. The Motor Speedway is

887
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 6: obviously built to host this type of event. You've got

888
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 6: two different sporting you know, franchises or brands if you will,

889
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 6: So we have to kind of walk through that a

890
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 6: little bit. But we feel we've got the space and

891
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 6: we know we can host these major events. We'll send

892
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 6: a delegation to Pittsburgh to again look at what they

893
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 6: have done. We've gone to Detroit, We've gone to Green Bay,

894
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 6: We've gone to Chicago. We've done our homework. So we

895
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 6: feel our pitch is ready.

896
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: Chris, obviously for me and Kevin and for others. We

897
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: show up this week, everything set up, everything's ready to go.

898
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 3: We kind of expect these things to be in place,

899
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: but from a logistical standpoint, can you take us perhaps

900
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: a little bit behind the curtain of how much of

901
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: this is a year round, yearly process to make sure

902
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: that again you are doing what you've always done, but

903
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: doing it to the best of your ability.

904
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 6: Thank you. I'm glad you noticed that, because it doesn't

905
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 6: just pop up. This is a year round planning process.

906
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 6: And as with most major events and conventions, and this

907
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 6: one in particular, Jeff Foster is the designee who lives

908
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 6: in Indianapolis, who is the NFL liaison. He runs the

909
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 6: actual event for our community for the NFL, and so

910
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 6: we meet with him every month. What's working, what's not.

911
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 6: We got construction here as we're building a new hotel

912
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 6: and expanding the convention center, so streets close, you pop

913
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 6: up and have issues with flight delays because of the weather,

914
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 6: and so we meet with Jeff Foster. We meet with

915
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 6: the NFL every month year round to fine tune how

916
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 6: we will show up for these four or five days

917
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 6: in February. I will tell you that this started moving

918
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 6: in late last week, so you know it takes five

919
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 6: or six days to make sure that everything is groomed

920
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 6: and ready, and cables are in place, and lighting is

921
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 6: in place. It's very heavy behind us here. You know

922
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 6: with press conference dansions if you will, that this takes

923
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 6: time and the load in is substantial.

924
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: The executive vice president of Visit Indy, he is Chris

925
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: Galley's with us here live on radio Row. Okay, last

926
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: one for me, and again I probably ask you this

927
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: annually and I'm going to remove the draft if I

928
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: can from it. A sporting event you would like to see,

929
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: call Indie home, wow.

930
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 6: Be what you know? Any Olympic qualifier that we have

931
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 6: not hosted is always desirable. We keep pecking away at that,

932
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 6: but I will I think I answered maybe similarly and

933
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 6: it feels the same, and that is F one. Let's

934
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 6: get back F one now. I know in talking with

935
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 6: Doug Bowles and Allison and Mark Miles and the team

936
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 6: over at Ims and Penske, it's an expensive event and

937
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 6: we know all the attributes of why that would be

938
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 6: interesting to have back and now with a Netflix kind

939
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 6: of series, if you will, it would just be something

940
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 6: we should aspire to. If the funding works and the

941
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 6: financing works, we have the infrastructure and we can welcome

942
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 6: the world back for F one. That would be tip

943
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 6: of my tongue if we had an unlimited budget and

944
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 6: could wave the wand.

945
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: You think another college football National Championship. Yes, but they

946
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: you don't bid for that, correct, they select the city.

947
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: Is that right?

948
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 6: In the past, it's been a little bit more of

949
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 6: the latter.

950
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: It's not like a Super Bowl. I guess that's what

951
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

952
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 6: Moving forward, though, there is a bid process and the

953
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 6: sports core and visit INDI. You know, we have to

954
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 6: put our heads together and say, how do we have

955
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 6: dates in space? I mean, the good problem is we're

956
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 6: starting to run out of spates and dates, so you

957
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 6: have to really make room for it. It has to align

958
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 6: with future host cities and when they're open, and then

959
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 6: you've just got to go and be laser focused on

960
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 6: that bid. So I think you'll see us run for

961
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 6: another CFP. Certainly want the draft, want to continue to

962
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 6: extend the combine, not be too greedy, but boy, if

963
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 6: we could throw in a couple other other major events,

964
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 6: we'd be happy.

965
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 2: He is a great, great ambassador for our great city.

966
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 2: Chris Caul, thank you, thanks for having appreciate good luck.

967
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 6: Today, gentlemen, I love listening. Thanks for having me on.

968
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna go with for our burn CD

969
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: for a high school basketball soundtrack. I'm gonna go like

970
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Odin Conley era.

971
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go maybe a little bit, you know, a

972
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 7: little bit like a little George Hill, aj Ratliffe, you

973
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 7: know Josh mc roberts action for a little fort minor

974
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 7: remember the name as we are live here at the

975
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 7: combine marked excellent?

976
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: There?

977
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 5: What is the songs that were most likely used as

978
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 5: like montages and everything during the combine and everything like that.

979
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 5: This has gotta work there.

980
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: That felt like I was firing up YouTube in high

981
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: school and watching a hoop mixtape.

982
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: West Virginia highlights right there. You're watching Pat Whites highlights.

983
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: Or something like that, or looking at a Keel Car

984
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: highlights for the deep basketball fans out there when it

985
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: comes to the hoop mixtapes. But that get that song

986
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: was in NBA Live Oh, I believe PlayStation two.

987
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: Front cover of NBA Live six. I think it was

988
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: d way was it? Yeah?

989
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 5: Video games soundtrack.

990
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: Wa oh everything everything?

991
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: Oh.

992
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 3: There was nothing like going to the store and having

993
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 3: to like purchase the actual physical disc and now everything's download.

994
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 4: These kids are soft.

995
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: Top five most likely to least likely to return for

996
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: the Colts. We tease this to end the show yesterday,

997
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: and if we do an alphabetical order, the five players

998
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: will choose from Nick Cross free agent, Zion Franklin two

999
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: years left on his deal. Is that right, Yes, Daniel

1000
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: Jones free agent, Alec Pierce free agent In the fifth name,

1001
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior, one year left on his second NFL contract.

1002
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: Most likely to return, Mark, you want to go one

1003
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: through five in that order? We start with the most

1004
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: likely to be back with the Colts. I think that's

1005
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: a good plan, own, Mark Wellley, Mark might have been

1006
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: watching my strip teas.

1007
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: Sorry, let's take it up.

1008
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 6: Are we talking about Yeah?

1009
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: Uh huh? All right, James Boyd start us off. Most

1010
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: likely of those five names to return.

1011
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Now this might throw you for a little bit

1012
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: of a loop because I've been talking about the franchise

1013
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: tag and who I would use it on. That person

1014
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: being Alec Pierce, but no, he is not a top

1015
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: my list. Most likely to return is Daniel Jones because

1016
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: without Daniel you got nothing. They hitched their wagon to

1017
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 3: that man when they give up two first round picks

1018
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: to get Sauce Gardner, and I just think whether it's

1019
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: the tag, whether it's a deal before it's tag deadline,

1020
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: there is no way, zero percent chance the Colts can

1021
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 3: let him play for a different franchise next season.

1022
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: I'm with you, brother, Mark Dodkin, who you got number

1023
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: one on the list?

1024
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 5: Same same I said, they literally committed to him at

1025
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 5: last season's trade deadline with the Sauce Gardner trade. Got

1026
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 5: to hammer out a deal. But I'd be stunned if

1027
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones is not a member of the Colts going forward.

1028
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: Okay, two on our lists again most likely to return.

1029
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: We're down to Franklin, Cross, Pierce or Pittman Junior. Mark,

1030
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: who you got?

1031
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: Two?

1032
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 5: I go Alec Pierce. I say, if they can't get

1033
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 5: an extension done, they will franchise tag him. So I

1034
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 5: don't expect Alex Pearce to be going anywhere either. I

1035
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 5: think he and Daniel Jones are lockstep. They will be

1036
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 5: back in twenty twenty six.

1037
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: If we have the same list one to five, then

1038
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: we might as well just walk out of here right now.

1039
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 5: I think it attle bit different as we get to

1040
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 5: the least likely.

1041
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Alec Pierce.

1042
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 3: I have to, and I hate that you know we

1043
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: have the same list, but you copied off of me.

1044
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 4: I showed you my answers before the show.

1045
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: You walked over here while you were stripped teas and

1046
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: it took a glance at my you know paper, and

1047
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: I should have had one of those little fourth Do

1048
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: you remember we had the folders No, yeah, folders of

1049
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: you don't don't don't peak it.

1050
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 6: Huh.

1051
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's Alec Pearson for the same reason, similarly

1052
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: as Daniel Jones.

1053
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 4: You can't let that guy leave.

1054
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: You need him.

1055
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: And quite honestly, they are the two free agents that

1056
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 3: the team has openly said we want them back, we

1057
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: need them back.

1058
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: They will be back under the right circumstances.

1059
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did go with Pierce. Did you guys debate

1060
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: Pierson Jones at all? Like, what do you so?

1061
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: I guess to go back?

1062
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: And maybe basically, if Daniel Jones plays any other position

1063
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: besides quarterback, would he be two on this list?

1064
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? And honestly I think on the list yeah, to

1065
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 4: be honestink that's true.

1066
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: But also from stay purely logistical standpoint or like a

1067
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: process standpoint, and to maybe a mend my list, I

1068
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: feel most confident that Alick will be back just because

1069
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: from a tag standpoint, he's just not leaving because of

1070
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: the tag. I think for Daniel Jones is the position

1071
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: more than the tag, which is why it's a coin

1072
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: flip for who would most likely be back, because to me,

1073
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: it's a foegone conclusion for both.

1074
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: Isn't that kind of crazy? Like if Daniel Jones had

1075
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: his career at any other position, we probably wouldn't even

1076
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: really seriously debate his return.

1077
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: We've talked about this so much.

1078
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like it wouldn't be that big of a

1079
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: deal if he came back, is what I'm saying.

1080
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 3: To go on a bit of a tangent, you have

1081
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: the Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker just won Super Bowl MVP,

1082
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 3: and they're talking about will he be there next year

1083
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: for that franchise?

1084
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: Right exactly? Be franchise tags a.

1085
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: Great extend, it's a great point or can we find

1086
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: a better replacement? And the guy just won you a

1087
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: Super Bowl? So yeah, quarterback matters all right?

1088
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 2: Third on my list most likely to return, and we're

1089
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: down to Michael Pittman. Juniors are Franklin and Nick Cross.

1090
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: This is where, to Mark's point, I got real lacking

1091
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 2: of conviction very quickly in how I formed three, four

1092
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: and five on this list, and I think, frankly, it's

1093
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: a huge drop from one to two three. I will

1094
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: go with Pittman, but I am gonna say what I

1095
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: said earlier in the week. I don't think it's Cohen

1096
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 2: Carr dunk in the back basketball big of a lock.

1097
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit more of Lamar Wilkerson

1098
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: on a fast break with Sam Alexis late in the

1099
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: Northwestern game. I'm kind of like, oh boy, I don't

1100
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: it certainly can't happen at twenty nine million, which is

1101
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: the cap hit. So I just think the Colts have

1102
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: a little bit more they like Pittman Junior. Of course,

1103
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: Ballad is a huge, huge fan of them, but I

1104
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: think there's a little bit more willingness to accept life

1105
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: without him than I maybe originally thought. I still think

1106
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: he'll be back, but that is my thoughts on Pittman.

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00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 2: Mark third on your list.

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00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 5: I debated that as well. I ed did end up

1109
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 5: going with Michael Pittman Junior, but only because they still

1110
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 5: have him under contract. I do think a restructuring has

1111
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 5: to happen. The salary cap is, like I feel like

1112
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 5: it's fake. There's no way the salary cap actually exists.

1113
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 5: Everybody says they are over, they're over, and yet everyone

1114
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 5: finds the way. The Saints were like two hundred million

1115
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 5: dollars over one year, and yet they have never faced

1116
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 5: any consequences. They can figure it out. I do think

1117
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 5: of the guys that are remaining, since he's under contract,

1118
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 5: he is the most likely to return. But again, a

1119
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 5: restructuring has to take place.

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Speaker 3: It's funny that Mark mentions that because I was just

1121
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: talking to Nate Taylor, former Indianapolis sports reporter I believe

1122
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 3: was a Pacers reporter for Andy Starr covers the Chiefs

1123
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: for ESPN.

1124
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: Not to get too far into the week.

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00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 3: We told me every year the Chiefs restructure Mahomes' contract

1126
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: to get more salary cap relief and to go get players.

1127
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 4: So it can be done.

1128
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: And so the Colts, I think, if they're serious, they

1129
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 3: will do some restructuring and perhaps some cutting. So this

1130
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 3: is where we differ. I have Franklin on my list,

1131
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 3: and the reason I have it.

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00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 2: It sounds like somebody has been a guest on Zaarah

1133
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: Franklin's podcast.

1134
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 3: I have, and boy have things changed since then I

1135
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: would say, because his contract is still relatively cheap, because

1136
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 3: you have more questions at linebacker than just him, I'm

1137
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 3: not so sure that they will completely rehaul that room.

1138
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 3: And for that reason, I think that there is an

1139
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: argument that he can be brought back with the caveat

1140
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: that he just can't be brought back alongside the same

1141
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: player and Jermaine and Pratt. Perhaps you get a more

1142
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 3: rangy linebacker to go with him. He's been a team

1143
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: captain for I believe the last four or five years.

1144
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: So I'm planting my flag with Zaire Franklin being under

1145
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 3: contract again in twenty twenty six with the Colts over

1146
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman Jr. Because he would have to take a

1147
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: massive restructuring to be brought back.

1148
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: I had Franklin fourth, and so you know, one of

1149
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 2: the more least likely I guess to be back. I

1150
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: cannot recall the last time Chris Ballard, when asked about

1151
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: a player under contract, has offered a wool. See. I

1152
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: just linebacker's probably the position most unknown about James. As

1153
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: we enter, you know, March, and we're about to get answers.

1154
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: Just to remind everybody, Jermaine Pratt is under or excuse me,

1155
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: is a free agency and like you said, Zia under

1156
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: contract for two more years. And yes, linebacker depth is lacking,

1157
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: but I just think when you say retool on the

1158
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: front seven, you're gonna have to create some changes. And

1159
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: I agree, I think there's gonna have to be some

1160
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: hard decisions with some guys. So I had Zaya Franklin fourth, Mark,

1161
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: who did you have?

1162
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 5: I had Nick Cross as my fourth So I think

1163
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 5: he got some positive words from Chris Balor the other

1164
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 5: day when he joined us. But I also feel like

1165
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 5: he's a free agent, he can go get his own deal.

1166
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 5: He probably wants to test the market, so there's a

1167
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 5: likelihood that he does leave, but there's still a chance

1168
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 5: the Colts can bring him back. But my other thought

1169
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 5: of why I think he could be most likely one

1170
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 5: of the more likely out is because I mean, does

1171
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 5: Nick Cross really move the needle that much?

1172
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: Like?

1173
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 5: Don't you think there's like a dozen Nick Crosses out

1174
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 5: there that you can get in free agency or in

1175
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 5: the draft. So I think he can get paid pretty well,

1176
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 5: and he has he has the option obviously to go

1177
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 5: test the waters elsewhere if he chooses to, So the

1178
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 5: Colts can bring him back, but I think he could

1179
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 5: also just leave via free agency.

1180
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 4: I was having the same conversation Mark, Stop getting in

1181
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 4: my head, James, you know, I'm serious.

1182
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 3: I was having this conversation with some people who work

1183
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: in the league about like the suppression of the safety market,

1184
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 3: because you remember a couple years ago Julian Blackman had

1185
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: a pretty good year and it took.

1186
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: Him forever to get signed.

1187
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: He didn't April.

1188
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's one of those things where

1189
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 3: you can get perhaps some ready made safeties in the draft.

1190
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 4: You look at the Seahawks, Nick emon Ware, he was

1191
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 4: balling for them.

1192
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 3: I mean, he was a really good player for them

1193
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 3: on that championship level defense.

1194
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 4: And he's also a cheap player.

1195
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: And then I also think that that position for the Colts,

1196
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: you've invested so much in your secondary as is, I'm

1197
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: not so sure how much money you can put into that.

1198
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: So that's why I had Pittman fourth on my list

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00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: and a Cross ended up being fifth.

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00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, I also rounded it out with Nick Cross there.

1201
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: You know one thing we touched a little bit on

1202
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: it yesterday when you asked him, James about Nit Cross

1203
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: and when you ask Chris pauerd. That is, you don't

1204
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: see a lot of safeties pay two of them, or

1205
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: excuse me, a lot of teams pay two safeties and

1206
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: notable money. Not that Nit Cross is going to break

1207
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: the bank. I don't think he's getting a cam buying

1208
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: them contract of you know, four years and sixty million.

1209
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: But he's probably gonna get you know, whatever seven or

1210
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: eight million. And I know that might not sound like

1211
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: a lot when the cap is whatever, one hundred and

1212
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: fifty one million dollars, but it is a lot when

1213
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: you start to kind of break it down from an

1214
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: actual puzzle piece and you start to allocate money in

1215
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: other spots. They're now paying a quarterback we expect major money.

1216
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 2: They're now likely to pay a wide receiver major money,

1217
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: maybe even two of them. They're now paying a left tackle,

1218
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: you know, big money corner. They have a couple of

1219
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: big contracts as well. So it has a lot to

1220
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: do with the finances around a safety and less to

1221
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 2: do with Nick Cross as a player. Yes, exactly, Mark,

1222
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: your fifth was Franklin?

1223
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: Is that right?

1224
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 5: Zire Franklin? Like you said, I mean, I don't know

1225
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 5: a guy that's been under contract that kind of got

1226
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 5: some scrutiny. Chris Ballard kind of said the will see

1227
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 5: situation with me that makes me think that, you know,

1228
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 5: if they're really going to be doing this whole getting

1229
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 5: younger and faster. He's about to turn thirty years old

1230
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 5: ahead of training camp, and while the one thing going

1231
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 5: for him is the linebacker position for the Colts is

1232
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 5: incredibly thin. I also could see growing frustrations with just

1233
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 5: his extracurriculars outside of football and outside of the building

1234
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 5: that they're kind of like, you know what, we need

1235
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 5: to just move on and turn the page on something

1236
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 5: like that. So Zire Franklin I have is my least

1237
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 5: likely to return Colt