WEBVTT - 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple

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<v Speaker 1>The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>The Fame Second Podcast with the evening. My name is Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Across me, I have Rod, and next to Rod, I

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<v Speaker 1>have Ken. Next to me, I should have Spike, but

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<v Speaker 1>Spike said he saw way too much Penis and he

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<v Speaker 1>could not bring himself out of the house, so he

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to be on this episode. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we even get started, what I need y'all to do

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<v Speaker 1>is spam Spike. Make Spike review this movie for Patreon

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<v Speaker 1>or solo, either one. Spike needs to talk about zombie Pennis. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so look, we're talking about the fact that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to have to see all this zombie pennis for nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had to go back and listen to the Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the first he was not happy about all

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<v Speaker 3>the Pennis.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. So all right, So twenty eight years later,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bone Temple. This is the new installment in the franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the Bone Temple and that some shit Spike

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<v Speaker 1>did not want to go nowhere near the Bone Temple.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was directed well, we'll say it was written

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<v Speaker 1>first off by Alice Garland, who wrote the others, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>the first twenty eight years later, as well as twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight Days. He did not do Weeks and it was

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<v Speaker 1>directed by Nia DaCosta. I'm not gonna lie Nina Costa

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously she's one to did Candy Man, and she

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<v Speaker 1>also did the Marvels, the later Candy Man. I mean, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the remake, so I was concerned. So let's start here, Rod,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you think of this film?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, I thought it was I thought it was fine.

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<v Speaker 3>These films are surprising me. But I do remember liking

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<v Speaker 3>elements about the last one. I don't remember hating it.

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<v Speaker 3>These movies are not movies that I would rush to

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<v Speaker 3>if I were sure. But because and it's really because

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<v Speaker 3>we do the podcast, It's probably why I go see it.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I go see him, I'm like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>ain't waste my money, and you know, I got some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of enjoyment out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was no different.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like this one I felt was a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit better because I feel like the other one was

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit like not ridiculous, but it did have

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<v Speaker 3>some ridiculous moments this one, and then I knew, I

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<v Speaker 3>remember it's not liking that in with Jimmy, we was

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<v Speaker 3>like what the hell are they doing with this silly

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<v Speaker 3>ship at the end?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was a little concerned about that going into

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<v Speaker 3>this one because Jimmy was gonna be in this one.

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<v Speaker 3>But they took a different direction with it, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, Okay, cool, this is a good direction they

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<v Speaker 3>took with it. So yeah, ultimately I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>very solid, very solid story.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I definitely enjoyed it more than the last one.

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<v Speaker 4>There were some things that I was like, I, what

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<v Speaker 4>is this what we're really doing? But I think they

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<v Speaker 4>made it make a little bit more sense towards the end.

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<v Speaker 4>And also I had to remember certain things about this

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<v Speaker 4>particular movie versus other zombie movies, because I remember you

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<v Speaker 4>telling me the last time that they're not zombies. So

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<v Speaker 4>once I remember that part, I started to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>recalibrate a little bit to some of the things that

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<v Speaker 4>was happening. So and I still don't know where they're

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<v Speaker 4>actually gonna go with it moving forward, but some of

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<v Speaker 4>the things that all question did make sense. So I

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<v Speaker 4>did like it better than the last one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, not a glowing recommendation, but alrighty, I fucking loved

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. I loved this movie, and I am be

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<v Speaker 1>yonned surprised by how good this was. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>like it the first one the first time I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it because of the ending. The ending was so fucking

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous that I hated it. By the time we got

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<v Speaker 1>around reviewing it, I lightened up on the movie and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, nah, it was good. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a stupid ending. I rewatched it again for the

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<v Speaker 1>third time before going in to watch this new one.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like the first one. Now I still do

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<v Speaker 1>not like the ending. I still like the ending at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but I liked the movie itself. I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Walking into this Nea the cost to have me concerned

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<v Speaker 1>because I did not like that Candyman remake and the Marvels.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not like that movie either, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, she's got a bad track record with me.

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<v Speaker 1>She did say or imply that the issue with the

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<v Speaker 1>Marvels was Disney got too involved and they made her

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<v Speaker 1>do the things that she did. After watching this, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe every word she said. She fucking killed this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Nia da Costa did so much better with the visuals,

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<v Speaker 1>with the story, with every sand the first movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she man I'm telling y'all, I will say this. Watching

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. When it was like thirty minutes in, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, I'm really liking this. I hope they

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<v Speaker 1>don't fuck this up. An hour in, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm really really liking this. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>they don't fuck this up. And I was doing that

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<v Speaker 1>up until it got to be where it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only twenty minutes left. They can't ruin it. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't ruin it, and they didn't. I thought this was great, great, great,

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<v Speaker 1>great from start to finish, and even the ending, which

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to. I was like, man, this is fucking great.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had questions about that, we'll get to them,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So did y'all catch the hello at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the film when you say hello, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean? Somebody says hello? I don't think so, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So that was from twenty eight days later, and I

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<v Speaker 1>caught that immediately. I was like, okay. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>still to this day one of my favorite scene from

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<v Speaker 1>any zombie film, even though they're not zombies, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>from any zombie A Jason film. That's when Jim, who's

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<v Speaker 1>played by Killian Murphy when he walks to the church

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<v Speaker 1>and he says hello, and those two infected stand up

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<v Speaker 1>and they just stare at him. It's the creepiest fucking

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<v Speaker 1>scene from just about any zombie A Jason film. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he's attacked by a preacher Killian Murphy. Killian Murphy.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is He's the guy at the very end. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the scarecrow that just answered my questions. Yeah, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, who the fuck is that guy? Because people like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh sh at the end, that's me, I'm people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 4>the same way. I was like, wait, just that way

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<v Speaker 4>I heard his voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing. Yeah, man. So yeah, so that plays into this

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<v Speaker 1>film because the first encounter we get with an infected

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<v Speaker 1>U well a real infected from the movie from Jim's perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>is in a church. So I was like, Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool that they included that. But it cuts

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<v Speaker 1>to Spike and he's surrounded by a gang of Jimmy's

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<v Speaker 1>who they're for themselves as the Fingers, and they're basically, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of like jumping him into a gang sort of,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ruler is goes by Sir Jimmy. Oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>what's his last name, Sir Jimmy, So let's see. Oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>damn it, why did I write that? Fucking down? Crystal,

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Jimmy, Crystal, okay, And he says, if the new

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<v Speaker 1>person can kill one of his current Jimmies, then they

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<v Speaker 1>can join his crew. So Spike goes up against one

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<v Speaker 1>of the Jimmy's and ends up winning. Ken what'd you

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<v Speaker 1>think about this scene?

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<v Speaker 4>I liked it because he won on accident, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so it made sense. There's no way he should have

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<v Speaker 4>won that fight, and and it was good because later on,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we saw a play out again.

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<v Speaker 1>But but nah, I mean, a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys in this colt or whatever picking on this kid,

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<v Speaker 4>believing that because he's small and weak that they're just

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<v Speaker 4>gonna beat him, and they're just torn with him and

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<v Speaker 4>playing around with him. And then by accident, he just

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<v Speaker 4>poked one of them and hit an artery and then

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<v Speaker 4>that was it and he's part of the group. But

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, so I love it. I think it made

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<v Speaker 4>the most sense for how everything went down.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree with that Rod to a certain degree.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of with the other fingers, like, yo, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a lucky shot, Like, you're really gonna gonna accept this

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<v Speaker 3>kid over the other guy that was clearly for the

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<v Speaker 3>cause and clearly uh just a better.

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<v Speaker 1>Better at battle.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Like I said, if it wasn't like a lucky

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<v Speaker 3>shot and he won fair and square, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>that would have made more sense. But yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of weird that they accepted him even though it

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<v Speaker 3>clearly seemed like he wasn't wasn't ready to be a

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<v Speaker 3>part of his colt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, but he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, I don't know what the rules were

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<v Speaker 4>outside of you in and U in, right, So if

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<v Speaker 4>that is it, then I get why he accepted him.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus, at the end of the day, that guy was

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<v Speaker 1>dead anyway, So if.

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<v Speaker 4>You're if you're you're saying that they could have attempted

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<v Speaker 4>to save his life, then I get you. But for

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<v Speaker 4>what I saw, I was like, he's gonna die, so

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<v Speaker 4>it wouldn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But it's what I'm saying, they could have. They

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<v Speaker 3>probably could have covered up the Yeah, they could have.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how they would have eventually cured him

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever or saved his life, especially if neither one

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<v Speaker 3>of them are doctors. But I don't know it just

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<v Speaker 3>if you asked the question, that's what that's how I

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<v Speaker 3>would answer it. But I thought it was fine. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was fine, But I'm just saying it logically.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm answered the question, that's what I was thinking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was good too, because it's the only

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<v Speaker 1>way it makes sense, because if they really had Spike

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<v Speaker 1>pull some smooth move and actually kill him, this would

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<v Speaker 1>have started the movie off real bad. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they had him on his knees and he just

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<v Speaker 1>stabbed anywhere he could stab, and he just happened to

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<v Speaker 1>hit an artery, I thought that was perfect. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was perfect. The reason I understand them not going

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<v Speaker 1>to save him is because it was against the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Jimmy sets all the rules, and the rule is

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<v Speaker 1>y'all fight, whoever dies loses, and that's it. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else about it. So and he probably was not really

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<v Speaker 1>sweatd because he knew they were going to do it again,

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<v Speaker 1>like they were going to do this whole thing again,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were going to find another person. That person

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<v Speaker 1>was clearly going to go up against Spike and kill him,

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<v Speaker 1>so it didn't matter. So anyway, it goes he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get replaced by a stronger guy, So I like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I also liked the fact that the fingers for all

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<v Speaker 1>my Kubrick fans, reminded me so much of the drugies

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<v Speaker 1>in Clockwork Orange. I thought that was really, really, really

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<v Speaker 1>dope reference if that was intentional, which maybe it wasn't,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Then we see doctor Kelson who's removing

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<v Speaker 1>the body of the pregnant infected from the last film,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that was in the I can't remem if

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bus or a train car. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a train car, right, a train car, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's taking her to his bone temple, basically be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the bone temple. And we also see a moment

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<v Speaker 1>from the perspective of Samson, the infected alpha, the one

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<v Speaker 1>with the big old dick. What did y'all think about

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<v Speaker 1>how it shows the infected what they see when they

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<v Speaker 1>see regular humans.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was dope because I'd never even wonder

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<v Speaker 4>or thought about what is it they actually see. So

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<v Speaker 4>when they showed the quick flash, I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know they were going to do something the

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<v Speaker 4>way later, but I'm like, oh, that makes sense they're

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<v Speaker 4>attacking because they see what they perceive as a threat.

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<v Speaker 4>The one question that I did have though, was I

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<v Speaker 4>get killing him to protect yourself with the videos of

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<v Speaker 4>but why go to extramu to eating them and all

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<v Speaker 4>the other stuff. So that part I didn't understand. So

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they eat them.

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<v Speaker 1>Eating his brains? Yeah, you're right, You're sure, right, So.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the only question I was like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>get why you would attack them because you feel like

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<v Speaker 4>you're you know, you're scared of them, But eating them,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're if they're if they're uh, what's the word feral?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean feral cats will probably eat a dead cat

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<v Speaker 1>if they come up on it, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Or a dog might eat another dog. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with that because I didn't even really think

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<v Speaker 1>about it until you just brought it up. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>them eating the brains out of that one head, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem with it because they are animals at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. But I did think, I'm sorry, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get your perspective. Yeah, so this this part was confusing

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, okay, because if I'm so he so Sampson saw infected.

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<v Speaker 1>I think yes, he So basically it looks like what

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<v Speaker 1>the infected see in regular humans is what regular humans

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<v Speaker 1>see and infected.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So that's that part doesn't make sense to me

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<v Speaker 3>because why aren't you Why aren't you attacking other.

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<v Speaker 1>Infected because they don't see infected like that. They see

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<v Speaker 1>him as regular humans probably.

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<v Speaker 3>So you say, you're saying that they see infected as

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<v Speaker 3>regular and they don't see yes, So that's what the

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<v Speaker 3>rage that the rage virus does.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody that's infected with it, they probably see them as

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<v Speaker 1>regular people or or at least on their team, and

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<v Speaker 1>not a threat. But a person that's not infected with

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<v Speaker 1>the virus, they see that person as a threat. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I needed more context then that because because because yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get like, okay, so what do you see

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<v Speaker 3>your own con ass? So you see you think you

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<v Speaker 3>just a regular ass human being. That didn't make sense

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<v Speaker 3>to me because they didn't show that, unless I don't

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<v Speaker 3>less I miss that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they show that they how they see other infected? No,

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<v Speaker 1>but they kind of imply that when when later on

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<v Speaker 1>we see Samson reverting back to human and getting attacked

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<v Speaker 1>by the other infected and also when Kelson he says

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<v Speaker 1>something I think it was in the last movie where

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about how he's seen the infected attack

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<v Speaker 1>of baby and he's like, why would they attack a baby?

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<v Speaker 1>A baby is not a movie. Okay, it's because that

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<v Speaker 1>the infected or the infection is affecting their brain where

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<v Speaker 1>they see anything that's not infected as some sort of threat. Okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a really, really, really dope way

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<v Speaker 1>to explain why they behave the way they do, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, watching all the films, they just get mad

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<v Speaker 1>and start fucking running at you and they just beat

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<v Speaker 1>the shit out of you, but it ever really ever

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<v Speaker 1>explained why. And I thought them dropping in that nugget

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<v Speaker 1>of why they're acting like that, I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's really good. We see that Samson's been returning

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<v Speaker 1>to doctor Kelson over and over and they've developed this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of friendship. What'd you think of the friendship scenes

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<v Speaker 1>that was going on with Helson and Samson, either one

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<v Speaker 1>of you.

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<v Speaker 4>This was the issue early that I had with him.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, bro, is he really going to become friends

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<v Speaker 4>with the zombie? Because the zombies are added. He just

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<v Speaker 4>became a drug addict, so the only way he can

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<v Speaker 4>get it is drugs is keeping him alive, which okay,

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<v Speaker 4>but they didn't stay there, which I thought was was dope.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm like, what and then he's dancing with the zombie,

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<v Speaker 4>he doing all.

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<v Speaker 1>This other stuff. The progress was dope, though.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, you know, he could see the pause

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<v Speaker 4>in him, like when he walked up and stuff like,

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<v Speaker 4>he was like, okay, he kind of what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 4>And then he hit him with it and then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he laid down. I was like, okay, I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 4>a chance. I'm gonna trust to you. And then he

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<v Speaker 4>was like okay, my head still intact. So the progress

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<v Speaker 4>was dope. It was just it just felt really really

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<v Speaker 4>ridiculous that he's gonna make friends with a zombie because

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<v Speaker 4>he had his supply.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, yeah, I like this. I like the build

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<v Speaker 3>up of this, even when he was about to shoot

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<v Speaker 3>him with the dark and he got really close before

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<v Speaker 3>he did it, Like, even that that anticipation.

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<v Speaker 1>Was good, you know, and I did. I didn't have an.

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<v Speaker 3>Issue with him supplying him the morphine and stuff like

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<v Speaker 3>that and trying to because he's a doctor at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day. So I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's very conscious about, you know, the whole bone temple.

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<v Speaker 3>So this sceneed right in line with him wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>figured this out. So so him trying to like, okay,

0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.320
<v Speaker 3>is this something to this, Like what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>As a doctor? You, I mean, you spend your life's work.

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<v Speaker 3>In time trying to figure out cures and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it made to me it made a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>sense that he's like he That's why he was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>just give me a sign before I just end this

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but before he started exploring possibilities possible ways to

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<v Speaker 4>cure him, he was just about to kill him. That

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<v Speaker 4>didn't come until till later I forgot what Oh he

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<v Speaker 4>said move.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it was like, oh shit, that's why he's saying

0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:37.320
<v Speaker 1>he's asking for a.

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<v Speaker 4>Before then he was about to kill him, because yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but I get you. So he wasn't trying to hear

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<v Speaker 4>I guess what I'm saying is I get the doctor

0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.679
<v Speaker 4>point of it. But at that point he wasn't trying

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<v Speaker 4>to cure him at all.

0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.159
<v Speaker 1>He wanted a reason to continue on to see it

0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and explore it. No, No, he was about to put

0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.800
<v Speaker 1>him out of his misery. Yeah, so he was. He

0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:59.960
<v Speaker 1>was hitting him with the with the darts, which happen

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<v Speaker 1>morphine on them, but that was only to like calm

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<v Speaker 1>him down at the time. I don't think he knew

0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that there was a cure yet. He hadn't figured out

0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.520
<v Speaker 1>what he could do to cure him. He just saw

0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.440
<v Speaker 1>that the morphine was calming him down. So why would

0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.280
<v Speaker 1>he put itself in danger if he didn't think it

0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:25.440
<v Speaker 1>was a possibility that that did that, that Samson wouldn't

0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:29.520
<v Speaker 1>attack him. Yeah, he was lonely, That's part of it.

0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.840
<v Speaker 1>And also he saw that the morphine was taking effect.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that point, I don't know that he even

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<v Speaker 1>cared if he'd lived or died, because when he woke up,

0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.879
<v Speaker 1>he was just like, oh okay, yeah, still alive. Cool.

0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:44.080
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think he was thinking this is curing him.

0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:45.960
<v Speaker 1>He just thought it was placating him and it was

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<v Speaker 1>calming him down. Yeah, yeah, I know he didn't think that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think he thought the morphine was

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<v Speaker 1>curing him.

0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:55.600
<v Speaker 3>It gave him like the idea like maybe I can't

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<v Speaker 3>cure it is because then we hear him narrating saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, well, this seems like whatever he called it,

0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.960
<v Speaker 3>some sort of paranoia type of thing that was going on.

0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, so he's just like, so maybe I can

0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.840
<v Speaker 1>treat that. Yeah, But he realized that there was no

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.160
<v Speaker 1>time because only he only had two more weeks worth

0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.000
<v Speaker 1>of morphine left. So he was like, this isn't gonna happen,

0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:17.399
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I was going to go out and

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.560
<v Speaker 1>just give him the kill shot. Hm right, mm hmm. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually thought this was an interesting thing when

0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.479
<v Speaker 1>you said that, you know, you're like, oh, well, are

0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.080
<v Speaker 1>they really going to do this where it's just like

0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.440
<v Speaker 1>this dude addicted the morphine. I think this was interesting

0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:37.280
<v Speaker 1>as fuck because they showed that when Samson had the

0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.359
<v Speaker 1>morphine in him, he was getting flashbacks to his old life.

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>So I think Samson it wasn't just like he was

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.199
<v Speaker 1>physically addicted to the morphine. I think he was he

0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.680
<v Speaker 1>was enjoying the fact that he was reverting a bit

0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to his old life and he was seeing what his

0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.480
<v Speaker 1>old life was. So I thought that was super interesting

0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that he kept shooting with the morphine. This next part,

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<v Speaker 1>are you either when you're all familiar with Androcles, the

0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 1>story of Androcles. He's the uh. He escaped slavery, hid

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<v Speaker 1>in the cave.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 1>He became friends with the lion. The lion had a

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.080
<v Speaker 1>thorn in his paw. He removed the thorn him and

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the lion became friends. Then he's thrown into he's sentenced

0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to death later on, and he's sentenced to death by

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.480
<v Speaker 1>mauling of a lion, and it ends up being the

0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>same lion, so the lion doesn't kill him. Happy, happy

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:35.159
<v Speaker 1>story ever after. Right when I saw this, I was like,

0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:41.240
<v Speaker 1>that's actually interesting because that's clearly who h Kelson is.

0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 1>He said, he's channeling his inner Androcles. And when he

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<v Speaker 1>calls Samson, uh, the whole reason of why he names

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.280
<v Speaker 1>him Samson. Do y'all remember Samson? What his story was? Yeah?

0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:55.160
<v Speaker 1>He said, well, one thing he measured was the hair.

0:20:55.920 --> 0:21:00.480
<v Speaker 1>The hair and what else I can't remember. You should

0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:04.280
<v Speaker 1>know you read the Bible. He killed a line with

0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.720
<v Speaker 1>his bare hands. So there's this whole lion motif with

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.200
<v Speaker 1>doctor Kelson and how he's looking at the I guess

0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm only I'm the only one that found that interesting. Y'all, Like,

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:19.200
<v Speaker 1>move the fucker Kelson realizes that he only has a

0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.639
<v Speaker 1>few more weeks left the morphine to give Samson, so

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:24.880
<v Speaker 1>at one point, he decides to give Samson lasting peace,

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.000
<v Speaker 1>which is what y'all talking about a minute ago, by

0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.240
<v Speaker 1>giving him the injection that will kill him, but he

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.239
<v Speaker 1>changes his mind when Samson utters the word moon. So

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<v Speaker 1>were y'all cool with this part or was it just confusing?

0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.360
<v Speaker 1>M h I was cute. I loved it. Okay, yeah,

0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I love this part.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I don't know, he did it so well,

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 3>like like yeah, I really liked this part and then

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 3>and then yeah, and it comes back around later too.

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. Yeah. No, I wasn't. I wasn't confused about it.

0:21:59.520 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was asking like when he kept giving it to him,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like I want this that stuff like

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 4>actually like curry him. But dang, it was just like

0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.359
<v Speaker 4>I was just like, nah, I can't be doing that.

0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.200
<v Speaker 4>But then it happened and then I was like, oh,

0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 4>that's probably like uh when when Caesar said no, no,

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.880
<v Speaker 4>he said no planting another apes, it was like one

0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 4>of those moments and it was like I was like,

0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:29.439
<v Speaker 4>oh shit, this motherfucker talking, you know. So I was

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 4>like damn okay, I said. So now they're kind of

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 4>starting to tie everything together, from the friendship to the morphrame,

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 4>so things are starting to make sense. So now I

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.439
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, okay, this is where they're going with

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:44.200
<v Speaker 4>this whole thing.

0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:45.640
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like okay.

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:47.880
<v Speaker 4>So then I'm like, well, shit, you only have two

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:50.160
<v Speaker 4>weeks left, Like, how are you going to figure out

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 4>a way to create some sort of vaccine or whatever.

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 1>How are you gonna have the what do you have

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the equipment? Now I'm asking a question, are.

0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.560
<v Speaker 4>You gonna have the equipment to figure out what is

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 4>the actual thing that the morphine is curing? I think

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 4>he even talked through it, but now I'm asking question.

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:08.400
<v Speaker 4>I was like, okay, but now we make a progress.

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:12.280
<v Speaker 4>But then I'm like, wait a minute, you can't cure zombies.

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.360
<v Speaker 4>And that's when I remember, oh shit, Mike said, they're

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:16.640
<v Speaker 4>not technically zombies.

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 1>I said, I forgot about that. Yoh. Now everything is

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>starting to kind of come there. I was like, oh shit.

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm like, okay.

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.919
<v Speaker 4>I like what they're doing with this particular aspect of

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 4>the story, like taking something that we see as zombies

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 4>that are not zombies and finding a cure that I

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 4>don't that's never been done before.

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, Okay, this is interesting.

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, I'm like, well, how does

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 4>this tie into Jimmy and the Fingers sound like a

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:51.680
<v Speaker 4>fifties band, so how did this tie into all of them?

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 1>You know? So? Yeah, so I had an arguing argument

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.400
<v Speaker 1>with a friend of mine. So do y'all not get

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<v Speaker 1>that the morphine wasn't what cured him? Yeah? What was it?

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<v Speaker 1>It was?

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<v Speaker 3>It was the the I'm about to say potion, but

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 3>the uh, the antidote or whatever you want to call it,

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 3>that he was trying to conjure up.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave him anti psychotic pills. Oh, and I think

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that for some reason, when I would arguing with my homeboy,

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 1>he missed that and his friends missed it too, And

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:24.679
<v Speaker 1>I was like, did y'all just close your eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>From but he said it too, now that you mentioned it,

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 4>he did say that. He said it was a psychosis.

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 4>He said it a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the rage virus, he said, is a mental psychosis,

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>and it can be cured or maybe stopped or halted

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>at least with anti psychotic pills. And I was like,

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Man, this movie these motherfuckers really thought into this. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing what I was confused about is because

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't I didn't remember that they weren't toombes technically,

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 3>So I was just like, okay, well, hold on, what

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 3>the hell going So you.

0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Were thinking that they were dead but undead? How the

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>fuck do that?

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 3>But I was like, yeah, maybe I missed something, you

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like, so that makes a lot

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 3>of sense.

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing we got that from. You. Do they

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>ever say that in the film that they're not dead? No,

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 1>they just I don't know, but maybe they've said it

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and I don't remember. But I always got this impression

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>because you notice they never have to shoot him in

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the head. They can slip one of their throats and

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>they die, yes, or shoot them in the stomach and

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 1>they die. The only ones that don't die are the alphas.

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>But in all the other movies, if they just shoot them,

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>they go down and they die. So that tells me

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>they're not zombies because you shouldn't be able to shoot

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:37.919
<v Speaker 1>a zombie in the stomach and it dies. You have

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 1>to shoot them in the head. So it's not following

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>zombie rules.

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, not following zombie rules, and you're saying that these

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 3>people will eventually die.

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they will age, they will die. If they get

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>a bad flu and it hits, they will die.

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, which is why they probably

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 3>showed him carrying that lady back to the temple.

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>And that's why Yes, yeah, yeah, they're saying is I

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 1>said I cut you off? Go ahead? No no, no no,

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying so that. So they're saying it without

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>saying it. Yes, Yeah, they're showing, not telling like people

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>love to say. That's why the last movie focused so

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:19.239
<v Speaker 1>much on Kelson's appreciation of the dead, and the all

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>momental Maury thing is remember we all must die or

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>remember death. That's why he focuses on that because these

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>are not zombies, they're real people. Interesting. So I thought

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that was super super interesting. And I've said before zombie

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>films are my favorite sub genre of horror. As far

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 1>as I know, I've never seen a cure in a

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 1>zombie film. I've never seen it, So them doing this,

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:48.360
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0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>into the Jimmy, let's go ahead finish the Sampson part.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a little bit out of order, but it

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter. Sampson goes back to the train car

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>and while on the car, he has flashbacks of him

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 1>as a younger man on a train car and he's talking,

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and he actually speaks. He says, I don't have a ticket.

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>So what did y'all think of this? And the preceding

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>fight with the other infected.

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that had I don't have a

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 3>ticket stood out more than like when he was looking

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 3>at pictures of the moon and things like that, which

0:27:58.480 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I said comes back around later.

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>So I thought that was interesting.

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 3>That's the part that I was like, oh shit, that's

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Samson because he was a little boy in that situation.

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, so so yeah.

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought that connecting why he said moved to

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 4>him being a child.

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Also the flashbacks of.

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 4>The memories because of the morphine psychosis drugs that he

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 4>was given, all that made sense to connect that. But

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 4>as soon as he said I don't have a ticket,

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, bruh, they gonna know you were not them.

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's also just the showing without telling, because Sampson

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 3>obviously grew up like this.

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so this is this is them implying that this

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>is where he was infected.

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 3>This is where he's infected, and now he's this big,

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 3>grown ass dude. So that shows that this isn't a zombie, right, yeah,

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 3>so that they are showing.

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if zombies. I'm pretty sure zombies get old.

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think. I don't know that I really

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>noticed because I've never noticed them.

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Just like saying that they just become decrepit, like they

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 3>they you know what I'm saying like that, Yeah, they

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 3>don't get older. They don't get older. He actually grew

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 3>up like as a strong man. Wait, we didn't seem

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 3>to get bid as a kid.

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>We didn't, but but this is applying. Yeah, it's implying

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that because the zombies at train. Yeah so yeah, so

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>he since a boy, he he's been the zombie. And

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that's all the afflets.

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 3>They start off as as children and they just this

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 3>is their life.

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 1>They grow up as these.

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Zombies or whatever, and that's you know, maybe that's why

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 3>they're afflet.

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Was maybe maybe, but I think I thought of the

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>last film, they just said it was a mutation, that

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the that the alp of what of the regular rage virus,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and they kind of make they kind of made it

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>seem like it was random. So I don't know, so

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know, just.

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't say that, like because how would this be a

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 3>mutation unless he came across something later, But they would

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 3>I feel like they would have shown that.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, because virus is mutant all the time. That's how

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like COVID nineteen became what was it called after that?

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Remember when COVID nineteen the alpha and then it went

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to they called it something after after the regular? Yeah,

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>there was like different variants. That's how that happens because

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>viruses are constantly mutating. So I don't know. Maybe maybe

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>it's because he was a kid, or maybe it just

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>he got infected as a kid and it mutated at

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>some point.

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but but what I what I in

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 4>washing this, I was like, oh, Ship, he's gonna be

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 4>reinfected when they were biting him, and I'm like, bro.

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>All of their asses because there's a lot of these.

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 4>I know Samson is a bit more. But then then

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, well, Ship, is he only the alpha because

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 4>of the rage virus? Or like, so is he will

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 4>he start because he's starting to be cured lose certain

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.479
<v Speaker 4>aspects of the rage virus that made him who he was.

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 4>But clearly it did not right, it did not because

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 4>there was only one person that walked off that trend.

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>And that was out that was that was Samson. Like

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm alpha for a reason. Yeah, But I did think

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>it was interesting though. If you notice that when the

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>fight happened, he took the loincloth Ship back off. He

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, I'm lett my dick. Hang yeah do

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>that clear cured a little bit, but this dick is

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>still here.

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 4>Dog.

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe because I had it covered up. Y'all y'all forgot

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>y'all forgot about how big my ship is though, because

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you jumping and bite me on my neck. Man, let

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>me show you how my dick dud man. But no,

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that that that I don't have a ticket?

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Part didn't jump out. I thought that was super interesting

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>because he was he was remembering his old life or whatever,

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and an actual infected was talking to him. But he

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>in his mind it was a regular person asking for

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>a ticket. Oh yeah, that sh it was. It was creepy.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>It was creepy.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yah yah yah yeah yeah, because he was talking

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 3>to the effect, he looked, yes, I don't have a ticket.

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>When they knew that he's no longer and infected the

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>attack him. Yes some reason. Yeah, yeah, that ship was good.

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>That was good.

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you brought that back up because yeah, that

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 3>what I did like that part.

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I like that part of lie. I was like, this

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>is really really clever thinking and once again neared the

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>cost that I apologize for. I don't apologize because no,

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>you did make some some bath foms. Just wasn't your fault.

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>You fucking killed this ship, bro, even I can't call you, bro,

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't have it. I don't have you know what

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>for having so few talking lines. I don't know this

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>actor's name, but whoever played Samson? Fucking murdered this?

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, murder pactful every time he a few times he spoke,

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 3>it was impactful.

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>And you could you could read it on his face

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that he was reverting. Man, this dude. Man.

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Even before he said moon, Yeah, he was just like

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 3>you kind of see it in his face because.

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>He was staring at the moon and he was processing it. Man,

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>it was good. I'm gonna say something because I want

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>more of this morphine. You can't kill me now, ship

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a tree. He never gets me hot, acting like a human, bro,

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you appreciate you. So this cuts to a scene of

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>some survivors going through the woods and they encounter a

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>group of infected. But did anything jump out to you

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>about how they acted with the older guy who was

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>getting overrun. They didn't give a funk about him. Bro left.

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 4>But I love what she said when she was like

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 4>she said, no, he got himself killed.

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was trying to be a hero.

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 4>That was because he had no business none walking up

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 4>on him like that when the gate was right there.

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Stupid.

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it mays why you're trying to be a hero, man,

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 4>they as soon as that thing turned on him, she

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 4>bounced And I love that.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>That felt real. I don't think we see that you

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>know nothing movies. That's exactly what I put in my

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>This is an attitude we don't normally see from folks

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in the zombie world. They're always like, we need to

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.959
<v Speaker 1>go help that person's in trouble, we need to go

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>save them.

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 3>But to remember they did it in twenty weeks twenty

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 3>eight weeks later? Is that the first one? That's the

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:19.959
<v Speaker 3>first one days? Twenty eight days? Like she was the same,

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 3>She was the same way. She's like, no, he can't,

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 3>you know how fuck that? We gotta keep going. I

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 3>do remember that about that movie, so they want that

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 3>same shit.

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I forget her name too, now. Fuck yeah, she

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>wasn't walking dead? Was it her? The black girl? Is

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about racist ass? No, she's not walking dead,

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>But I can't think of her name. I know you're

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about the black woman that was with Jim, but

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't think of her name now Natalie. Maybe I

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>think her name was Natalie. But yeah, So this is

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>something we don't normally see in these movies. So you're

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>right with that, Ken or at least from my perspective,

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and it actually it goes along with how Natalie thinks,

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>but it does not go along with what Jim thinks.

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Jim thinks he will always go help, because that's the

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.479
<v Speaker 1>conversation he had with Natalie, if that is her name.

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>They were discussing in twenty eight days if you ran

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>across somebody needed help, what would you do. She was like,

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving them, and Jim was like, I would never

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>do that. I would always go help. So this is

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the first time you've seen people in this world are

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>just like fuck that, I'm out. And they clearly knew

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the old guy. I don't know if that was anybody's

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>dad or anything, but the fact that they dipped I

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, this is interesting. So the survivors of

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the attack, Tom and Kathy go back to the farm

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>where they live. I guess they come about how many

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>people were over there, like four with like maybe four

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>other people, only to find that the fingers are there

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're harassed over dinner. But things heat up when

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>they drag all of the survivors except Kathy. Because Kathy

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>gets away. They drag the rest of them into the

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>barn where they proceed to remove their shirts. What y'all

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>think about this scene? And why do you think Jimmy

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>was doing this? Real quick YEP played by Naomi Harris.

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Her name was Selena and Selena Selena, I said Natalie,

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>but I was planted thinking of the yeah, person's real name.

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>But what was the last question you just asked? What

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>did you think about this scene? And why do you

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>think Jimmy was doing this? Oh? Man, I didn't.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 3>It was confusing as to why Jimmy was doing it,

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 3>which we I mean, we found out later, but but

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 3>in this moment, I was confused. But yeah, I was

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 3>just like, damn, this is fucked up.

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>This is so fucked up, Like, yeah, why are you

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>torturing these people?

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand the point, Like, yeah, I just really

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 3>didn't understand the point, to be quite honest, it was

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 3>it was just it was just it was just messed

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 3>up to me.

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I did like the fact that the lady got away.

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 3>And in that cause you know, everything that happened later,

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I just didn't. I didn't understand. I know,

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 3>he said I'm talking to my father, which I thought

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 3>was a good reveal later. Yeah, that's just kind of

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 3>what what I was thinking. It just seemed very unnecessary.

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I just didn't understand, like why you would go and

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 3>kill other civilians.

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 4>It was unnecessary, you know what I What I liked

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 4>is when he was having dinner, she was like, oh,

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 4>you guys gonna leave. It was like, yeah, we're gonna

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 4>kill you guys first and then we're gonna leave. The

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 4>other thing that I thought was interesting was you can

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 4>see sort of a reluctance by the other Jimmies to

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 4>do certain things. You know, like when the girl got

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 4>up to dance, it didn't look like she really wanted

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 4>to get up and do that dance, like she just

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 4>it looked like she was just doing it because it's Jimmy,

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 4>and Jimmy does crazy, weird things to people. So the

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 4>tearing of the shirt was just or the taking off

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.320
<v Speaker 4>the shirt or whatever he called it was just him

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 4>just almost like keeping them in line because Jimmy's full

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 4>of shit, you know. And and most of them were around, well,

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.399
<v Speaker 4>there were a couple that believed it, but other words

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 4>just were Therefore it seemed like one or two were

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 4>therefore survive. At least one was just this is the

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 4>way I'm serting to Savib because being on my own

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 4>isn't isn't isn't working. So I think for me, it

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 4>was just a way for him to kind of sell

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 4>this whole cult thing that he has going on to

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 4>other people.

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, So I slightly disagree with you. I do think

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.839
<v Speaker 1>that Jimmy believes it. I think that Sir Jimmy believes it. Yes,

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>So he said so throughout the film, and this is

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>just one of those things of I just happened. You know.

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>He kept saying old Nick, Old Nick, Old Nick, Old Nick,

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's not a common thing. But I only know

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>who it is because there's a band I like called

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Old Nick, and I have an Old Nick shirt. And

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't not know that Old Nick is actually a

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>European name for Satan. So when he kept saying my

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>father is Old Nick and you need to please Old Nick,

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Oh, this fool thinks his dad is Satan.

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>So when he's doing all of these things, it's very

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>much like the Manson family. They're going out and they're

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 1>just killing people seemingly needlessly. But if he thinks his

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>dad is Old Nick and this pleases Old Nick, then

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that's why he's doing it. They're basically killing people and

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>flaying people because it is pleasing to Satan. And I

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.919
<v Speaker 1>do think that Jimmy did believe that. We'll get to why.

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I get why you think he's full of shit. We'll

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>get to that later. But I thought the interesting thing

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.760
<v Speaker 1>about this whole thing was him calling it a charity.

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 1>So I'm pretty sure in the last review I did

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 1>bring up that these people were based after this guy

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't know anything about. His name was Jimmy Savile.

0:39:54.760 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>He was some like media star. Everyone loved him till

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 1>he died and they found that he was abusing kids.

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>He was known for charity work. So them calling what

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>they're doing to people, which is actually abuse, them calling

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>it charity work is more just like a shot at

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the Jimmy Sapple thing. So I again, I thought that

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>ship was super super, super interesting, and I thought that

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:25.879
<v Speaker 1>the fucking peeling of the skin was like, bro, they're

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>still alive, especially the woman like you see just oh

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>my god. I was like, this ship is tight, tight, tight,

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>this ship tight as.

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 3>What be talking about. You'd be like, this ship tight.

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 3>But when it comes to the Nigga ship and.

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>This isn't real.

0:40:47.680 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 3>If this, Jimmy. If somebody made a glorified crazy it

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 3>was it like that. They showed it, but didn't show

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:04.800
<v Speaker 3>all of it.

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Enough exactly. Because you see them peeling the skin off

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>and just throwing it on the ground. I'm like, god damn.

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you see it in another scene too, because

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 3>it was like a face pilled at some.

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Point and I didn't catch what that was. Wasn't that

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>before this part? Though?

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 3>It was before this. I see it before, but then

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 3>you don't realize why why? But now you see they've

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:26.760
<v Speaker 3>been doing that ship to other people.

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like an animal was licking at or something.

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, okay, what's the deal with the mask?

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:38.959
<v Speaker 1>Remind me of walking whip with Alpha? Oh ship? Damn?

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even connect that all right. So Jimmy offers

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Tom the chance to become one of his fingers by

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>killing one of the other fingers. That way he'll avoid

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>getting flayed. So Tom chooses to fight one of the

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>female fingers named Jemima or Jemima. What did you'll think about? Uh? Tom,

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it was I think it was it gotta be it

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta be jim some jim Mima, I'm pretty sure, but

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:09.359
<v Speaker 1>what you think how that fight went.

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was interesting because he picked her because

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 3>she thought she was the weakest obviously or whatnot.

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 1>And that ship did not playing his favorite at all.

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 3>It ain't even they ain't waste no time like they

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 3>were just like you about you up, light work, right,

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 3>she about to fuck you up?

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>So now, yeah, I thought that was good.

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 3>And I thought it was even better when the I

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:34.839
<v Speaker 3>guess the wife or woman that was pregnant hit her

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 3>with the the ship because you don't see it, you

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 3>don't see it, you just hear it.

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, god, damn my cat kitty feline a stroke, right,

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and then her nose starts bleeding, like what the fuck?

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 1>And then they revealed that that ship was in her

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 1>head all like yo, man, yeah yeah.

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 3>The direction of all of this was was this this

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 3>moment of the film right here. They they executed this masterfully,

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 3>like the way they did this scene. Yeah, I I

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.840
<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed the scene. It was a good, good film work.

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Speaker 4>Right here, and really kind of smart to keep the

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 4>kid out. So now all of that of a sudden

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 4>that makes sense. He runs out, he's throwing up. The

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 4>other person comes back after scouting and We're like, all right,

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 4>I'll stay out you because if he was in there,

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 4>he would have been chosen. So yeah, so having him

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 4>away from this, you know, and let her be the

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 4>one that looked like the weakest made sense. And I'm like, oh,

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna try to fight this kid, and there's no

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 4>way this kid gonna win.

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.240
<v Speaker 1>But I forgot he was outside, so.

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 3>And I went if the other finger knew that that

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 3>this is disinitiation was about to go down and he's

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 3>probably gonna end up getting picked. Which other finger, the

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 3>one that was out there with with uh what's his name?

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Spike? Yeah, no, she she she had gone to scout,

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>but she never took she never took nick uh Nick

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Spike back in. So I wanted she knew the whole time, like, no,

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it's best for you to stay out here. Oh, I

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>see what you're saying.

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 4>Maybe yeah, oh okay, because she knew that at the

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 4>end it is he was going to have him pick

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:17.479
<v Speaker 4>somebody to fight.

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>If you bring your ass and then you're gonna die,

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna choose. I didn't think about that, but yeah,

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:22.839
<v Speaker 1>you may be right.

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Man knows the ritual or the process. So that is

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 4>interesting that would add an extra element to it.

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>But I was one. I was like, I don't think

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna be an easy exit. Bro, I did too,

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that would have been too easy.

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, but I didn't know she was gonna be

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 4>that nice with it.

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>That was the thing that got almost like she was

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the best fighter. Yeah, and they're talking ship to him. Yeah,

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I know why you picked me. This ain't what you want.

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:53.959
<v Speaker 1>It ain't what you think. It is what you got.

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 1>The little wings on my back and see me doing

0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that little dance you thought you.

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know if somebody, well Muhammad Ali used

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 4>to do that ship said dance, motherfucker, whoop your ass,

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 4>get your ass and dancing on it. But and then

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 4>now now that we're talking about I was like, and

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 4>I think she was. She was like she was actually

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:21.760
<v Speaker 4>pretending and looking like she didn't want to be picked,

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 4>but she wanted to.

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Be picked the whole time. She felt like killing the motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah,

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:27.439
<v Speaker 1>so that ship was tight.

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 3>And that was another thing I wanted to point out

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 3>about this scene. Oh yeah, when when the other fingers

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 3>outside and she's just like, you know, don't sound like

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:37.800
<v Speaker 3>normal scream.

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they went back and forth that ship was That

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>ship was cool? I did pick up on that because

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I put that down because the after after Jemima is killed, Uh,

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Tom is all fucked up. He's been stabbed a few times,

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>but he's able to grab a propane tank and starts

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>earning motherfuckers in there. So I thought that was dope.

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 1>But that causes the whole place to burn down. Where

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>did he get the spark from? There? Was there was

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.919
<v Speaker 1>a fire something on the desk Okay, yeah, I can't

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>remember what it was, but there was either a lighter

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 1>or something. There was something on the desk that he

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>pointed the propane tank at and then just started using

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>it like a fucking flame. They were asking the same

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>thing to get that ship from. Yeah, that was so.

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 1>That was good. This part was great. But uh so, yes,

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>they go outside. A couple of the fingers have now

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>been burned to death. Uh, Sir Jimmy tells Spike to

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 1>go get Kathy because he saw Kathy getting away. What

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>do y'all think about what happened between Spike and Kathy.

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I loved it.

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think it was gonna happen either. Thought she

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:55.760
<v Speaker 2>was gonna take the She pushed a ship out of Spike.

0:46:56.040 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 2>She was right, Bro, don't trust I don't know you.

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 4>But it's so it's so like counter anti movie, like

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 4>it's anti to what you're seeing movie, Like this is

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 4>this kid, this kid clearly like doesn't want to be there.

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>He had his guard down and everything.

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like he like he's a child like you would

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 4>think she would be she's pregnant, would be sympathetically.

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know him, bro, Man, it was good.

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 3>I was not expecting that at all. When she punched

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:26.439
<v Speaker 3>that little motherfucker fell over.

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Its like, are you serious? Yeah, yeah, I'm serious. She's like,

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm out. I did not know you. No, this was

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>this was this was well done to me.

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 3>This was super well done to be. It was um

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.359
<v Speaker 3>ship I couldn't catch a break.

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he was.

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 4>He was on a rough day the rest of the movie. Actually,

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:51.479
<v Speaker 4>that's just fund out there in a while. He could

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 4>have took his ass home, bro, from the first movie

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 4>out there period, That's what I'm saying.

0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 1>She never took his at the beginning. Yeah, you're right. Yeah,

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:07.800
<v Speaker 1>so you bought this song. So the other female, Jimmy

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 1>who I don't know if she had a name. I

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>saw people calling her Jimmy Ink, but I don't know

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>if they ever said that. They did call her in

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the movie. Okay, So the other female, Jimmy Jimmy Ink,

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>was sent out earlier to go scout for a new

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 1>place for them to attack, but she ran across Kelson

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:26.280
<v Speaker 1>talking to Samson. So as Sir Jimmy is debating Spike's

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 1>punishment for not bringing Kathy back, she decides to tell

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 1>them about Kelson, who she's convinced is Satan. So they

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 1>trecked his place. They don't say yet, but she's calling

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>old Nick but I knew what she meant. Yeah, I

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>think that's actually kind of cool once you get the reveal.

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 1>But so they go to his place where they all

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 1>witness uh Kelson in the Bone Temple. So Sir Jimmy

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>tells the crew that Kelson is indeed his father, but

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>he needs to go talk to him first before everybody

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 1>else does. So where'd y'all think of thevo between Kelson

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and Sir Jimmy?

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:06.239
<v Speaker 3>This was good, This is good and I and it

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:11.280
<v Speaker 3>was interesting to see him like, yeah, this motherfucker, what's.

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Going on with this nig over here? Like like you

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>start sitting when you talking about bullshit or whatever.

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Now you see like, Okay, maybe he is on some

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 3>bullshit because he doesn't know, and then even the Jimmy

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 3>ink can catch on, like, Yo, why this motherfucker I

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 3>don't know about this place if he's so connected to

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Nick or whatever.

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:32.959
<v Speaker 1>But but nah, I like this. I like this moment.

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>This is good.

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Good too, Like the conversation between them both the only

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 3>things that I didn't feel like they showed that Kelson

0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 3>filled his life the way he said he did.

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 1>It didn't seem that way to me.

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 4>I think Kelson is just very You don't survive that

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 4>long without being very self aware. So I think he

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 4>realized that Jimmy was a threat and that he was

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.800
<v Speaker 4>gonna do what he could to appease him to preserve

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:02.360
<v Speaker 4>his life.

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 3>See, I never because Kelson is being able to survive

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 3>this long.

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't. I didn't see because he said that.

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:16.800
<v Speaker 3>In the narration that you know, first time he filled

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 3>his life like this, And I just didn't feel like

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 3>if he known about Jimmy.

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:23.360
<v Speaker 1>You're saying, just how how he came across his demeanor,

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 1>how you look.

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 3>You you didn't see it like I could see if

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 3>you heard stories about Jamie and be.

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 1>A big dig zombie for like a movie in years.

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I think you'd be more scared of that, but he wasn't.

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 4>He probably numbed him to everything. He was like shit

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 4>and I survived that. I ain't worried about this.

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 3>But that's what I'm saying. But that's not That's not

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 3>what what the narrative was. And there was that he

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:48.799
<v Speaker 3>filled his life, and I'm just like, hu, that's that that.

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:51.120
<v Speaker 1>It didn't seem like Jimmy was enough for him to

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:55.280
<v Speaker 1>fear his life that way. I don't remember if Jimmy

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>ever said his name. I think he did, And if

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 1>he did, then that would explain why Kelson would have

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>been a bit fearful because if you remember in the

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>first one, remember the zombie they run across that's been

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>hung upside down and have the Jimmy carved in him,

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and then there's throughout the film there's graffiti about Jimmy.

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 1>So if Kelson has been collecting the bodies and he's

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 1>been seeing all this stuff, and if this guy walks

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>up and he's like, my name is Jimmy, and then

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 1>he says, look, if you don't do this, I'm gonna

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>fucking kill you and I'm gonna stuff your intestines down

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.880
<v Speaker 1>your throat. That would be enough for Kelson to be like,

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 1>well fuck, Becausekelson's extremely smart. So that would explain why

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Kelson would be like, fuck, that's that guy. This is

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the guy that's been going around doing this shit. So

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe I should believe him. That's the only baal I

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 1>can give it. Otherwise, I'm with you. Why would he

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>automatically just think this guy is really that much that threat?

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.280
<v Speaker 3>But also, Kelson's not a fighter. He's not a fighter,

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:57.280
<v Speaker 3>but like you said, he's very smart. And this motherfucker

0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 3>has like fucking what do you call the ships.

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>The morphine harpoons harpoons and ship like you this motherfucker

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 1>run up, get done up. Not by Kelson, though, yeah

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:14.879
<v Speaker 1>you motherfucker harpoos. He hit him from a distance. Yeah,

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>but a morphine harpoon is not gonna do it be

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a morphine when it'll be a kill shot. Was gonna

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>gill Sampson. That was just an overdose I thought he

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 1>was gonna give.

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 3>What I think is that because he's a doctor, he

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 3>could easily get him like syringe, Like, mother fuck you

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 3>run up and when you want to.

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Poke your ass, but he not if he's not a fighter,

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and if he has a whole crew of other people,

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:38.799
<v Speaker 1>because because he says I'm gonna get but you don't

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:40.640
<v Speaker 1>see him. Yeah, but I don't think it would have

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 1>been smart for Kelson. Just think this dude is lying

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:44.919
<v Speaker 1>because otherwise, why would he lie about having a crew,

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's the whole point. I'm going to get my

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:48.520
<v Speaker 1>crew and I'm bringing him back here. I feel you.

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 3>So he knows he has a crew, Yeah, I guess so.

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:52.840
<v Speaker 3>And you don't know how big that crew is?

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean sure, yeah, it could.

0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 1>It could be a situation like that. It was.

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 4>It was It was good because I you know, I

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:03.800
<v Speaker 4>think you saw both of them kind of in their element,

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 4>very calm.

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:07.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, nobody's yelling, nobody's screaming.

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:09.319
<v Speaker 4>You know, even the way he said it, just just

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 4>like he told the family, It was like, yeah, if

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 4>you don't do it, you know, this is what I'm

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:12.759
<v Speaker 4>gonna do to you.

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 3>And I like how Kelson was questioning him, So you think, say,

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 3>so you believe that?

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I was like, oh, this is interesting, is you?

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:27.240
<v Speaker 4>And I think with Kelson being smart, he also understands

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 4>how colts work, and if this guy's talking like this,

0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 4>then it was like, all right, well, I don't want

0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 4>to take any chances, so if this is my best

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 4>odds to survival, then I'll just go along with him.

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:41.479
<v Speaker 4>Maybe they'll just leave. Yeah, he'll probably keep me alive

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:45.360
<v Speaker 4>because he may need to come back. But this is

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 4>also where as you mentioned earlier, I was like, Oh,

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:50.839
<v Speaker 4>this motherfucker just full of shit, because even when they

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:52.240
<v Speaker 4>were on top of the hill and he was looking

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 4>like fuck, that's not what I thought it was. But

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 4>I got to keep them believing this con, so I

0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:01.960
<v Speaker 4>need to go down here to set this whole thing up.

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Shit hmm. I think this part was the only part

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>that was a con. The rest of it wasn't a con.

0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>But he saw that they weren't believing. They weren't believing.

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 4>But then the reason why pause was because of the

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 4>last thing.

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:25.320
<v Speaker 1>That was part of the thing, part.

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 4>Of the whole act that he asked that Old Nick

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:33.960
<v Speaker 4>was telling them to do, build a following and stuff

0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 4>like that.

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 1>So now I'm wondering. But now it just.

0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:38.399
<v Speaker 4>Looked like it looked like he had doubt. He looked

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 4>like he was like fuck, Like, I came across something

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 4>that they think is Saint Nick. So now I gotta

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:47.319
<v Speaker 4>go down here and convince them up Saint Nick that

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:50.280
<v Speaker 4>this is Old Nick in order to keep this act alive,

0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:54.640
<v Speaker 4>because if they find out this guy isn't who Old Nick,

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 4>then they won't fear me anymore. I would have I

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:00.040
<v Speaker 4>would not have power. So that's why I thought he

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:00.760
<v Speaker 4>was just bullshit.

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:02.960
<v Speaker 3>I did like that we got to reveal on this

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 3>that's what we found out, Old Nick was the Satan.

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 3>And then I started thinking about I know it's in

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 3>the movie You've probably never seen, but Adam Sandler Little Nikki,

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 3>you ever seen that.

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I've seen it.

0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, they refer to Satan as NICKI in that

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:19.880
<v Speaker 3>show in that movie, in that movie, and I was like, oh, well, duh,

0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 3>that's what he was talking about.

0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, again, I don't I don't think that Jimmy

0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:29.080
<v Speaker 1>was bullshitting the whole time. I think Jimmy, which again,

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 1>there's there's something he says later on that definitely solidified

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that he did think his father was Satan. But I

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.279
<v Speaker 1>think that this is the only part where the con

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:41.840
<v Speaker 1>comes in. He's like, well, they think that that's Satan.

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I can use this to my advantage because I have

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 1>to keep a hold on this crew and I can't

0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>prove what I'm hearing and what I'm seeing. But if

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:54.839
<v Speaker 1>they think I can, then this is going to keep

0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:57.719
<v Speaker 1>them loyal. So this is that's where the con comes in.

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:03.440
<v Speaker 1>But a quick aside before they can go meet Satan

0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:07.319
<v Speaker 1>spiked side to sneak away, and then that other guy

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:11.120
<v Speaker 1>runs over and tries to catch him, and then Jemima

0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:16.720
<v Speaker 1>comes over and saves him unless oh sorry, yes, Jimmy

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Ink comes over and saves him. Did y'all recognize Jimmy Ink?

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>By the way, that was the girl from the uh,

0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:29.759
<v Speaker 1>the Hawkeye show, the flag smasher girl, the one that

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Nixon has racist teeth. That's funny, that is. I know

0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:36.719
<v Speaker 1>she looked familiar, but I couldn't. I couldn't. I did too,

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 1>And second I got home, I was like, I have

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:41.480
<v Speaker 1>to go see who this girl is because looks the

0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:44.839
<v Speaker 1>only thing I thought was interesting. It's not really a lie.

0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:47.319
<v Speaker 4>I was like, it was just her saying like, no,

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:49.000
<v Speaker 4>I've been out there, I know what it's like to

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 4>not have a crew. This is the best way to survive. Yeah,

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 4>And that's why I was. And at this point I

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:55.840
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, she just she just she don't believe

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 4>this ship either. Until later, but I was like, Oh,

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.399
<v Speaker 4>you don't believe this. You just here because you don't

0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:03.879
<v Speaker 4>have anybody else to protect you, and you're just trying to.

0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I think she believed to a certain degree. I think

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:08.799
<v Speaker 3>she had her doubts.

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I think she believed in Satan, but she had a

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>doubt that Jimmy was really his son.

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah okay, yeah, okay, okay, now connecting it all together, okay.

0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think they all believed in the Satan part.

0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 1>They definitely all believed that because when she saw him,

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing she thought. She's like, oh my god,

0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that's Satan. That's the guy that Jimmy's been talking about. So,

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Sir Jimmy takes the other fingers to meet with old

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Nick slash Satan slash Kelson. What did y'all think of

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the scene? This is where he comes out he does

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the musical number to Iron Maiden.

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 4>That shit was, Hey, man, I gotta give it to Kelsey, Bro,

0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 4>You're right, smartestle the hell of her performer. Bro, He's

0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 4>so that ship all the way the hell of a

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 4>show man. He could not wait and we saw the

0:57:55.800 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 4>whole movie. Rod he had been practicing the working on routine. Yeah, said,

0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 4>this is my moment.

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:04.480
<v Speaker 4>When he came out and he had this thing bro

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 4>with the little I don't know what that was.

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Yo, this guy is all in. Yeah

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that ship.

0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Even Jimmy was like, all right, damn, I'm impressed.

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah it was. It was. It was a good act.

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 1>It was definitely a good act.

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:22.640
<v Speaker 4>And just seeing them all dance to it, this was

0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 4>when I was like, oh, ship, they actually do believe this.

0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 4>When I saw Jimmy, Ink was like, oh ship, Jimmy's

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 4>believe that ship. Or maybe this was the point she

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh ship, this ship is real. You know,

0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 4>maybe she had her doubts, maybe her faith was question

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:38.200
<v Speaker 4>and then when she saw this, she was like, Oh,

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 4>this ship is actually fucking real. So I'm back on board.

0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 4>But and then, so here's what I thought he was

0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 4>doing when he blew the ship in their face. I

0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 4>thought he was actually using that to knock them out

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 4>and that's how he was going.

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 3>To escape high But yeah, he was just getting oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 3>hallucinating a little bit Yeah, it just helped with the

0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:55.240
<v Speaker 3>with the show.

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I thought the show was to get them

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 4>to lower their goal art so he can blow whatever.

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:04.240
<v Speaker 4>This stuff was poison or something in my mind at

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:06.160
<v Speaker 4>the time, and it wasn't to get them high. It

0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 4>was just to kind of make them fall out or

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 4>something like that.

0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 3>And See, that's what I'm saying when I say that

0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 3>he's smart, he's he's a doctor.

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 1>He can conjure up.

0:59:13.440 --> 0:59:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Something not conjured, but he could create something that that would,

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, basically kill him if he wanted to, you

0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. So that's why I was saying, like,

0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 3>is he does he feel like his life is threatened?

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, no, I don't think he had, So I get

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 4>what you're saying. I don't think he had the things

0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:34.480
<v Speaker 4>he needed to kill him to create that concoction.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what it was. Yeah, so I disagree

0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:44.240
<v Speaker 1>with that. Oh remember Memento Maury, and then remember the

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 1>what he said to Spike in the last film. Kelson

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:52.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to kill anybody. Kelson believes that life is precious.

0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:55.160
<v Speaker 1>He's like Morgan from Walking Down. So he didn't want

0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to kill anybody. He just wanted them to leave. He

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 1>only changed his mind when they started talking about killing people.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he was like, oh, fuck, I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>But as far as this scene goes, this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest scenes I've seen in the movie in years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I was in the theater by myself because

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<v Speaker 1>I was fucking singing the whole because I was like,

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 1>first of all, the cinematography was amazing, the choreography was amazing,

1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:26.640
<v Speaker 1>but this song choice was so perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I was wondering because I know a lot of

1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:31.200
<v Speaker 3>times people don't get that right for you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they got this perfect. But I was wondering they

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<v Speaker 1>got this some right for you. The reason they got

1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:38.920
<v Speaker 1>this so right And again, if this was near the

1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Costa's decision, you are fucking brilliant, because first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the greatest metal songs of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go ahead and get that out the way, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest Iron Maiden songs, one of the greatest

1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:51.360
<v Speaker 1>heavy metal songs ever written. People cheering when they saw it,

1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:57.480
<v Speaker 1>bru I was like, yo, let's go. They was excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Here's the brilliant part about this. On surface,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just some guy saying six six six, the Number

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<v Speaker 1>of the Beast. But the song is not really about

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<v Speaker 1>Satan if you read the lyrics, it's about a person

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<v Speaker 1>losing their grip with reality. He says. Uh, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>just what I saw in mild dreams? Were they reflections

1:01:21.480 --> 1:01:24.920
<v Speaker 1>of my warped mind staring back at me. That goes

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<v Speaker 1>to this movie, because in my dreams, they're always there,

1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the evil the evil face that twists my mind and

1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:39.800
<v Speaker 1>brings me to despair. This is the movie that shit like,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear that ship. But okay, if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>actually sat down and read the lyrics for this song,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you would get why I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a brilliant, brilliant, fucking They could have picked anything.

1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:54.440
<v Speaker 1>They could have picked Metallica, they could have picked Slayer,

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<v Speaker 1>they could have picked anything. Oh god, yeah this wasn't this.

1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:06.200
<v Speaker 1>But the second I saw when he went into his

1:02:06.240 --> 1:02:08.640
<v Speaker 1>bunker and he picked up the Number of the Beast album,

1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, ship, that is fucking brilliant, brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, I was in the fucking theater like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is too good man.

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<v Speaker 3>I blessed this to eleven or something like that. He said,

1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I forgot the number he said, but he was he's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To that's a reference to like spinal tap amplifiers guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>and in spinal Tap they're like, Noah, turn that ship

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<v Speaker 1>up to eleven. So that's always been like a heavy

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<v Speaker 1>metal turn your ship up to eleven as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, why did he say it specifically?

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why. So I love little details like that. After

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<v Speaker 1>the song, Kelson tries to move forward with the plan

1:02:58.440 --> 1:03:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to pretended he's Satan and send the Fingers off, which

1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:08.120
<v Speaker 1>to kind of give the Fingers a renewed trust in

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Jimmy. However, Kelson realizes that that is Spike, and

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<v Speaker 1>he changes his mind about the plan because he realized

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<v Speaker 1>they're about to go off and kill other people. Now

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I think things get real heady. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start with Ken because I want Rob to think

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<v Speaker 1>about this for a minute. So, Ken, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>think about what went down in this scene when he

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<v Speaker 1>asked him to sacrifice himself? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I didn't know that's where he was going to go.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought initially he was going to say my last command,

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<v Speaker 4>and Jimmy's face was like.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about No, I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I thought he was gonna say was to

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<v Speaker 1>leave the kid, leave Spike with me. I did too,

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<v Speaker 1>I did too. I didn't think he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was gonna be like, nah, you need to kill yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>which is also interesting because he doesn't want to kill people.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, if you're asking somebody to kill yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>commit suicide, what do you think about that? But nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think it was also a way to get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of the threat because this guy was saying that

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<v Speaker 4>because Jimmy added on, I wanted to increase my my.

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<v Speaker 1>Thus Jimmy added to multiple hands.

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<v Speaker 4>Jimmy added that ship on later right in the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>That wasn't part of the script either. So yeah, because

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<v Speaker 4>you can see him getting concerned, so tying all this

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<v Speaker 4>in about him not wanting people to die blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 4>it made it made additional sense because he looked concerned

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he saw Spike, he was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>But asking him to kill himself, you know, was one

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<v Speaker 4>of a test of faith. And then I think it

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<v Speaker 4>would also make them question Jimmy as well, because it

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<v Speaker 4>was like, well, Ship, if you won't kill yourself and

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<v Speaker 4>you're telling us all this bullshit about old Nick. Then

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<v Speaker 4>do you actually have the faith that you say you

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<v Speaker 4>have if you won't go through to act yourself and

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<v Speaker 4>this is your father, this is Satan. We know the religion,

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<v Speaker 4>but you're not following that. You're not following the script yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>And it also revealed that he was he was Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>And the whole time too.

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<v Speaker 4>So definitely a very interesting turn that I did not

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<v Speaker 4>see coming at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize they said kill you. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 3>he said told Jimmy to kill himself. I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>was telling okay, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Told he told the fingers that he needed to be sacrificed. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's supposed to be my son. I want him

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<v Speaker 1>to be sacrificed. So he didn't necessarily say to Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to go kill yourself, oh ship, yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't turn the burner on.

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<v Speaker 3>All cold, just just is just soaking in the water, overcooked.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, I didn't. I thought I missed something. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I ain't stop you or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But you gotta cut me off, go ahead, No, but no,

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<v Speaker 3>this was this was an interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever. I didn't I didn't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where you're going with it, So I'll

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<v Speaker 3>just I'll just defer to you. You're about to let

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<v Speaker 3>the church down, sacrificial lambs. What do you want me

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<v Speaker 3>to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, first thing, Uh, remember I told you what sir

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Jimmy Crystal's name is. What are his initials? Then? God,

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<v Speaker 1>damn j C, j C Jesus Christ. Did you notice

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<v Speaker 1>where he stabbed.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking about like you're talking about when he hung

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<v Speaker 3>him upward tailed him to the Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>He was? Who else was stabbed in the ribs? Jesus?

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<v Speaker 1>You letting the whole church down? Bro? This is why

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<v Speaker 1>Drew keep be doing y'all like this. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is crazy. This is crazy. Right after he tells

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<v Speaker 1>him and he needs to be sacrificed, he stabs Kelson unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Spike is the one that delivers the death

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<v Speaker 1>blow and he stabs him in the ribs, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the same place that Jesus Christ was stabbed in when

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the cross. But okay, only a few

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<v Speaker 1>more scenes here, fellas, all right, what did you think

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<v Speaker 1>of the conversation between Spike and Kelson? As Kelson was

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<v Speaker 1>dying and this this kind of goes back to I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just tell y'all the momental mory thing, which basically means

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<v Speaker 1>remember death or remember that we all must die. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Did did y'all find this part powerful and all? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>For sure?

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<v Speaker 3>For sure it was hard seeing Kelson die, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like that's what made it that much more

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<v Speaker 3>impactful and strong of a story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Concerned because this whole time, Sampson over there whooping ass.

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<v Speaker 4>So at one point I thought Sampson was going to

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<v Speaker 4>come back through and kind of think, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of liked that it didn't go that way, but

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was kind of beautiful honestly, him when

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<v Speaker 4>he passes and he's dead, he's with the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the skulls. So when they kind of, you know, zoomed out,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh man, that's kind of dope how.

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<v Speaker 1>They did that. So I thought that was that was done.

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<v Speaker 4>You have the whole time Jimmy upside down to my

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<v Speaker 4>wif you forsaken me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well that's the next part, yes, before you

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<v Speaker 1>get there. Though, I did like.

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<v Speaker 3>That Kelson was able to get the satisfaction of that

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<v Speaker 3>of Samson telling him thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Before those it worked, so I thought, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was good. I did think that was cool as

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<v Speaker 1>fuck too. But yes, so, as Sir Jimmy is in agony,

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<v Speaker 1>crucified on the cross, Samson shows up and takes Kelson

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<v Speaker 1>away after thanking him. What did y'all think of Sir

1:09:12.439 --> 1:09:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy's final moments? So, since we already talked about Calson's

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<v Speaker 1>final moments.

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<v Speaker 3>This was satisfying as well for me, like to see him,

1:09:22.360 --> 1:09:25.519
<v Speaker 3>I was. I was surprised they they followed through with this,

1:09:26.760 --> 1:09:29.320
<v Speaker 3>but I thought it was a really really really good

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<v Speaker 3>way to basically kill his character off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, no, I agree, I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he just really needs to be around for

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<v Speaker 4>one movie. I think, you know, I expected Samson to

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<v Speaker 4>show up and just rip him apart. Me too, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because first of all, his supplies cut off, and like

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<v Speaker 4>he said, thank you, you know, he thanked him, so

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<v Speaker 4>he's kind of back to himself.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I also was like, this shit, is he

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<v Speaker 1>reinfected too?

1:09:58.720 --> 1:10:01.840
<v Speaker 4>So I didn't know what was going on, but seeing

1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:05.040
<v Speaker 4>him upside down, thought about why are you forsaking me?

1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Et cetera, et cetera, Like is it again now because

1:10:10.040 --> 1:10:11.439
<v Speaker 4>I remember, I'm still thinking it's a con.

1:10:11.479 --> 1:10:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, ship is he is he really believing

1:10:15.040 --> 1:10:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that ship I was telling you. Con.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why he saw him. He saw.

1:10:22.520 --> 1:10:24.519
<v Speaker 1>So he just got it wrong. Oh.

1:10:24.560 --> 1:10:27.000
<v Speaker 4>So you think when he saw Sampson walking up, he

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<v Speaker 4>thought that was on Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Oh, he saw Samson walking up, he saw him

1:10:35.560 --> 1:10:37.800
<v Speaker 1>as the devil. Because at first I was like, what

1:10:37.880 --> 1:10:40.439
<v Speaker 1>is what is that? And then when he got closer

1:10:40.400 --> 1:10:43.639
<v Speaker 1>and it was I was like, oh, ship, that's him

1:10:43.680 --> 1:10:48.439
<v Speaker 1>seeing Samson as old Nick. Okay, damn, you need to

1:10:48.479 --> 1:10:52.360
<v Speaker 1>rewatch this. Yeah, and you know what, the Father, why

1:10:52.360 --> 1:10:56.439
<v Speaker 1>have you forsaken? Anything comes from right, the Bible? Right,

1:10:56.920 --> 1:11:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the Bible right, you should know. Come on now, yeah,

1:11:00.479 --> 1:11:02.960
<v Speaker 1>just like leaving him on earth to die. But who

1:11:03.040 --> 1:11:09.000
<v Speaker 1>said it? Jesus? Thank you God. I mean, come on,

1:11:09.600 --> 1:11:13.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying yes, yeah, so yeah, so Jesus says

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<v Speaker 1>this while he's dying on the cross, this whole Father.

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<v Speaker 1>But remember in the first movie, well the first twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight years later, Sir Jimmy says it when he's under

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<v Speaker 1>the ground and he sees his actual father getting killed.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all remember that part at the beginning of the film

1:11:28.680 --> 1:11:30.560
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Do remember he says, Father, why have you

1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:34.599
<v Speaker 1>forsaken me? So now we're getting a repeat of that scene.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the ship that fucked me up. Are y'all

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with Saint Peter? Okay, go ahead, only again. The

1:11:44.280 --> 1:11:45.720
<v Speaker 1>only reason I know is because I'm a nerd. But

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Peter was one of the people that was crucified

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<v Speaker 1>on a cross upside down. Oh oh oh wait, No,

1:11:50.320 --> 1:11:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I did not know that. Yeah, there were very few

1:11:52.040 --> 1:11:53.840
<v Speaker 1>people that were done that way, but he was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ones that were. He was crucified upside down.

1:11:56.200 --> 1:11:57.800
<v Speaker 1>So I had to write this part down because this

1:11:57.800 --> 1:12:00.960
<v Speaker 1>shit was bugging me. St Peter, who I mean? Yeah?

1:12:00.960 --> 1:12:05.800
<v Speaker 1>What did he do? He was one of Jesus's first apostles.

1:12:06.600 --> 1:12:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Jesus called him and his brother Andrew to be fishers

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<v Speaker 1>of men and this is a term used by Jesus

1:12:11.840 --> 1:12:16.240
<v Speaker 1>to call for his flock. Wait term used by Jesus

1:12:16.280 --> 1:12:19.320
<v Speaker 1>to call his flock. Instead of catching fish, they would

1:12:19.400 --> 1:12:24.280
<v Speaker 1>catch people for God by sharing the gospel, bringing them

1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:27.920
<v Speaker 1>into the Christian faith and making disciples. And it means

1:12:28.080 --> 1:12:32.280
<v Speaker 1>actively spreading the message of Jesus to lead others to

1:12:32.400 --> 1:12:36.760
<v Speaker 1>faith and eternal life. Who does that sound like? Does

1:12:36.760 --> 1:12:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that not sound like Sir Jimmy? It does. It's the

1:12:39.479 --> 1:12:42.760
<v Speaker 1>same ship that Sir Jimmy was doing. And they crucified

1:12:42.920 --> 1:12:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Saint Peter upside down. They crucified Sir Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a smart movie, uh, which is great because I

1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:55.759
<v Speaker 4>like smart movies like that. Like you said, those little details,

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<v Speaker 4>the thing about it that sit in the Saint Peter

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<v Speaker 4>in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Saint peters in the Bible the

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<v Speaker 1>Dead Sea scrolls next to g anywhere you got it

1:13:12.479 --> 1:13:18.000
<v Speaker 1>there the extended version of the Bible, like the Lossya scrolls. Yeah,

1:13:18.120 --> 1:13:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he might have been hold on.

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<v Speaker 4>So they edited. We need to take that out. We

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<v Speaker 4>on need that story of Saint Peter, uh, snatching up people, right,

1:13:28.680 --> 1:13:31.200
<v Speaker 4>we need to change the fish or something. We can't

1:13:31.200 --> 1:13:34.680
<v Speaker 4>have taking up snatching up people. No, it ain't how

1:13:34.680 --> 1:13:35.280
<v Speaker 4>doesn't need to go.

1:13:35.479 --> 1:13:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Saint Peter's in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in the New Testament being hung upside Matthew, Mark, Luke,

1:13:40.040 --> 1:13:41.880
<v Speaker 3>and John but crucified us side down.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in. He's one of the few people that was

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<v Speaker 1>crucified upside down. Mm hmm. Damn. They didn't teach me nothing.

1:13:49.600 --> 1:13:53.840
<v Speaker 4>And in Sunday School Ride, I didn't get that lesson

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<v Speaker 4>get down and that I remember.

1:13:57.160 --> 1:14:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Ye Oh, I didn't know this part. He was crucified

1:14:00.120 --> 1:14:03.280
<v Speaker 1>upside down in Rome at his own request as he

1:14:03.320 --> 1:14:08.040
<v Speaker 1>felt unworthy to die in the same manner as Jesus. So, so,

1:14:08.080 --> 1:14:11.519
<v Speaker 1>who's from you upside down? Hm? Wow? Yep, the acts

1:14:11.560 --> 1:14:15.240
<v Speaker 1>of Saint Peter. And it's symbolized by the inverted cross

1:14:15.080 --> 1:14:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that humility. Oh no, Jesus Christ. No, because it's in

1:14:21.640 --> 1:14:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the Old Testament, isn't it. I can't remember. Well, anyways,

1:14:25.080 --> 1:14:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought that shit blew my mind. That shit blew

1:14:27.840 --> 1:14:29.960
<v Speaker 1>my fucking mind. I was like, this movie is very

1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:34.840
<v Speaker 1>is it's doing a lot of detail. But this now, again,

1:14:34.880 --> 1:14:36.360
<v Speaker 1>this is just me saying this shit. I don't know

1:14:36.360 --> 1:14:37.920
<v Speaker 1>if this is really what they were thinking, but I

1:14:37.960 --> 1:14:41.320
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine the fucking coincidence. So this is the last scene.

1:14:42.560 --> 1:14:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, the movie ends with us seeing Jim from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight days later and his daughter Sam talking before seeing

1:14:51.120 --> 1:14:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Spike and Jimmy Ink whose name is actually Kelly, running

1:14:56.400 --> 1:15:00.240
<v Speaker 1>from some infected and the movie ends with Jim going

1:15:00.280 --> 1:15:03.280
<v Speaker 1>out there and Sam asking are you going to help them?

1:15:03.320 --> 1:15:06.800
<v Speaker 1>And he says of course, and then it ends. So

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<v Speaker 1>what did y'all think of how it ended?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I thought that was that was especially knowing that

1:15:11.479 --> 1:15:14.160
<v Speaker 3>that's and I had an inkling that that might have

1:15:14.240 --> 1:15:17.120
<v Speaker 3>been the guy like somebody from the first movie. But

1:15:17.200 --> 1:15:19.680
<v Speaker 3>now it's when I looked up to Selena girl, I

1:15:19.680 --> 1:15:20.880
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, of course it was him, but he

1:15:20.920 --> 1:15:21.719
<v Speaker 3>was younger obviously.

1:15:21.840 --> 1:15:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:24.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I was like, oh man, that is a

1:15:24.560 --> 1:15:30.000
<v Speaker 3>really really nice detail. So, yeah, they're franchising this out,

1:15:32.040 --> 1:15:33.400
<v Speaker 3>but now I like it. I like it though.

1:15:34.000 --> 1:15:36.360
<v Speaker 1>It makes me interested to see what's gonna happen next.

1:15:36.720 --> 1:15:40.800
<v Speaker 1>They're doing three, right, they're doing one more hopefully after

1:15:40.840 --> 1:15:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that they end this because I don't want them to

1:15:43.120 --> 1:15:43.760
<v Speaker 1>funck this up.

1:15:44.040 --> 1:15:50.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, so that made the ending better because

1:15:51.000 --> 1:15:53.439
<v Speaker 4>it feels like there's a progression for me in terms

1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:54.760
<v Speaker 4>of like the movies getting better.

1:15:55.000 --> 1:15:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:15:55.400 --> 1:15:59.519
<v Speaker 4>So I ever rewatched the first one. I wanted to

1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:02.120
<v Speaker 4>rewatch it before I went I saw.

1:16:01.920 --> 1:16:09.559
<v Speaker 5>This one, but because I feel it overboard with that

1:16:09.600 --> 1:16:11.479
<v Speaker 5>first one, well, they cleaned it up, but I felt

1:16:11.479 --> 1:16:14.519
<v Speaker 5>like it would have been I felt like watching him

1:16:14.600 --> 1:16:16.080
<v Speaker 5>like that would have really added to it.

1:16:16.160 --> 1:16:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I just I regretted, but I had limited window. I

1:16:18.960 --> 1:16:19.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't have enough time.

1:16:19.800 --> 1:16:23.439
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, but I'm like, okay, I like this one

1:16:23.560 --> 1:16:27.080
<v Speaker 4>more than the first one. And I said, I it's

1:16:27.080 --> 1:16:27.920
<v Speaker 4>an I got.

1:16:28.160 --> 1:16:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm with him coming back.

1:16:29.320 --> 1:16:32.080
<v Speaker 4>I said, I should like the third one, so I

1:16:32.120 --> 1:16:35.320
<v Speaker 4>hopefully so. I like where they're going with it in

1:16:35.439 --> 1:16:39.800
<v Speaker 4>terms of connecting all of these and you know, with

1:16:39.800 --> 1:16:40.719
<v Speaker 4>with bringing him.

1:16:40.600 --> 1:16:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Back, because I'm starting to dig him.

1:16:42.200 --> 1:16:44.400
<v Speaker 4>As an actor watching him in Peeka Blinders and stuff,

1:16:44.439 --> 1:16:48.559
<v Speaker 4>so you know he's really good. Yeah yeah, and going

1:16:48.600 --> 1:16:52.479
<v Speaker 4>to help them, which is you know, I think and

1:16:52.960 --> 1:16:58.320
<v Speaker 4>she left people uh Kathy, Kathy, Well that guy got

1:16:58.400 --> 1:17:01.280
<v Speaker 4>himself killed. But tying you back to the first one

1:17:01.360 --> 1:17:07.479
<v Speaker 4>where you know, what was the lady's name where Nicole,

1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:09.880
<v Speaker 4>when she said will we help somebody if they're in trouble,

1:17:09.920 --> 1:17:13.680
<v Speaker 4>they were like no, yeah, yeah, he was like, of.

1:17:13.640 --> 1:17:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Course we're gonna help, which I'm surprised why.

1:17:18.760 --> 1:17:22.759
<v Speaker 4>Because that exposes them Huh, that exposes them to risk.

1:17:23.840 --> 1:17:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's always been his personality. He wants to help.

1:17:26.720 --> 1:17:29.640
<v Speaker 1>He does not want to see people die, and I

1:17:29.680 --> 1:17:31.920
<v Speaker 1>think that that is setting up what's gonna happen in

1:17:31.960 --> 1:17:34.719
<v Speaker 1>the next film, because just like you said, Kathy left

1:17:35.360 --> 1:17:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and that is not Kathy's m o. Kathy's like, I'm

1:17:39.120 --> 1:17:42.160
<v Speaker 1>not fucking risking my life for y'all motherfuckers, even though

1:17:42.200 --> 1:17:43.880
<v Speaker 1>she kind of did by throwing that hook into that

1:17:44.320 --> 1:17:49.840
<v Speaker 1>chick's head. But there there understanding of how the world

1:17:49.880 --> 1:17:53.040
<v Speaker 1>works is if I see somebody dying or getting attacked,

1:17:53.080 --> 1:17:56.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna go help you. But Jim's his motto

1:17:56.520 --> 1:17:59.400
<v Speaker 1>has always been I'm going to help because even in

1:17:59.439 --> 1:18:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the first one, he could have just bounced and left

1:18:01.240 --> 1:18:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Selena and the other girl whose name I can't remember

1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:06.080
<v Speaker 1>from the first film. He could have left both of

1:18:06.120 --> 1:18:08.679
<v Speaker 1>them there and just left, but he didn't. He came

1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:13.240
<v Speaker 1>back and almost died to free them. So when they

1:18:13.320 --> 1:18:15.080
<v Speaker 1>showed I heard his voice and I was like, oh shit,

1:18:15.080 --> 1:18:17.599
<v Speaker 1>that's Jim. That's Jim. And when he walked on screen,

1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, come on, bro, let's go. Let's go.

1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:23.840
<v Speaker 1>And even though I don't always love cliffhanger movies, I

1:18:23.840 --> 1:18:25.040
<v Speaker 1>thought the Cliffhanger was perfect.

1:18:25.080 --> 1:18:27.479
<v Speaker 4>It was it was good, it was perfect, it was good.

1:18:28.439 --> 1:18:31.040
<v Speaker 4>Did they ate him up a little bit? So that's

1:18:31.080 --> 1:18:32.400
<v Speaker 4>how he looked like, Oh.

1:18:32.400 --> 1:18:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean twenty eight days later came out and two

1:18:36.160 --> 1:18:37.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand something two thousand one.

1:18:38.040 --> 1:18:40.120
<v Speaker 4>So you know what I forgot about and you just

1:18:40.200 --> 1:18:42.639
<v Speaker 4>said it, I bro I forgot.

1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:46.040
<v Speaker 1>We haven't seen Kathy since she left right out the

1:18:46.120 --> 1:18:52.599
<v Speaker 1>gate two thousand and two. But the two that are

1:18:52.640 --> 1:18:57.840
<v Speaker 1>in trouble, that Spike and Jimmy in Okay, all right, yeah,

1:18:57.960 --> 1:19:00.000
<v Speaker 1>make sure. So we don't know where Kathy's at. Okay,

1:19:00.040 --> 1:19:01.840
<v Speaker 1>we have no idea whe Kathy's at, but there's no

1:19:01.880 --> 1:19:03.640
<v Speaker 1>way they introduce Kathy and they're not going to bring

1:19:03.720 --> 1:19:07.040
<v Speaker 1>her back. So I think in the next film she's

1:19:07.080 --> 1:19:08.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna come back for her get back. Damn.

1:19:08.760 --> 1:19:12.439
<v Speaker 4>That's kind that's actually kind of cool that Kathy left

1:19:12.479 --> 1:19:13.519
<v Speaker 4>and we don't know where she at.

1:19:13.880 --> 1:19:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Damn. That's that's that's actually a pretty good world. But

1:19:16.120 --> 1:19:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I like that. Wait, so it's Kathy from the first

1:19:19.040 --> 1:19:21.559
<v Speaker 1>one too, Okay, right, Well, we don't know anything about

1:19:21.600 --> 1:19:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Kathy except what we saw in this film. Okay, so

1:19:23.680 --> 1:19:26.439
<v Speaker 1>right now we have Kathy, we have jim and his daughter.

1:19:27.240 --> 1:19:29.800
<v Speaker 1>We don't know where Selena is, and we don't know

1:19:30.040 --> 1:19:32.960
<v Speaker 1>if the other little girl from the first twenty eight

1:19:33.040 --> 1:19:36.000
<v Speaker 1>days Later, we don't know if she is around either, right,

1:19:36.160 --> 1:19:40.240
<v Speaker 1>we only see Jim and his daughter, right, his daughters

1:19:40.280 --> 1:19:43.560
<v Speaker 1>clearly from from Selena. I mean unless he went and

1:19:43.800 --> 1:19:47.360
<v Speaker 1>got Hi, another black woman, but that's unlikely. Yeah, and

1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:50.160
<v Speaker 1>then and then we still have the village people, right,

1:19:50.360 --> 1:19:52.240
<v Speaker 1>the village. Yes, yes, because we did not go. We

1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:53.800
<v Speaker 1>did not back at all.

1:19:54.040 --> 1:19:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm was surprised they didn't. We didn't revisit that

1:19:56.000 --> 1:19:59.320
<v Speaker 3>at all. It's just we just have Spike yep, yep.

1:19:59.600 --> 1:20:01.680
<v Speaker 1>And y'all. Did we talk about the fact that that

1:20:01.760 --> 1:20:06.000
<v Speaker 1>who the actor is that plays Sir Jimmy. No, that's

1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the same dude that was in Sinners. Oh shit, I

1:20:09.320 --> 1:20:11.559
<v Speaker 1>did look that up. I didn't remember him, but it's crazy.

1:20:12.840 --> 1:20:15.840
<v Speaker 1>That was the main white guy, the main vampire who

1:20:16.240 --> 1:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>was also I think his name was cult in skins Uk,

1:20:20.439 --> 1:20:22.920
<v Speaker 1>which I have said probably one hundred fifty times on

1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:25.559
<v Speaker 1>the show that everybody needs to watch because it's fucking

1:20:25.600 --> 1:20:29.160
<v Speaker 1>incredible skins Uk. A lot of the best actors you

1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:33.160
<v Speaker 1>know come from that show. But yes, man, this this

1:20:33.320 --> 1:20:37.400
<v Speaker 1>shit was fucking great. I cannot wait for the third one, man. Yeah,

1:20:37.320 --> 1:20:39.479
<v Speaker 1>why you like it as much as you do? It's

1:20:39.479 --> 1:20:41.760
<v Speaker 1>so much better than the first one. It's so much

1:20:41.800 --> 1:20:44.680
<v Speaker 1>better than the first one. The story is better, the

1:20:44.800 --> 1:20:47.640
<v Speaker 1>directing is better. I'm glad nead A Costa got to

1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:50.800
<v Speaker 1>do this because her name was not held in high

1:20:50.840 --> 1:20:54.200
<v Speaker 1>regard after the Marvels. But she came back and was like, no,

1:20:54.360 --> 1:20:56.360
<v Speaker 1>let me show y'all motherfuckers what I do. And she

1:20:56.520 --> 1:20:56.960
<v Speaker 1>killed it.

1:20:57.240 --> 1:20:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a really good time or two with someone of

1:20:59.200 --> 1:21:02.280
<v Speaker 4>the jump scares, like when Jamie was hanging upside down,

1:21:02.479 --> 1:21:04.400
<v Speaker 4>like I noticed, motherfucker about the pop back.

1:21:04.520 --> 1:21:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I forgot to mention that. Yeah, he was actually killed.

1:21:07.080 --> 1:21:09.840
<v Speaker 1>He he saw Satan or what he thought was Satan

1:21:09.880 --> 1:21:12.519
<v Speaker 1>and said, why have you forsaken me? Satan walked off

1:21:12.520 --> 1:21:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's killed by a regular ass infected.

1:21:14.640 --> 1:21:17.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he's killed about Sampson, Right, it was Sampson

1:21:17.479 --> 1:21:19.160
<v Speaker 3>that came back and killed him, Right, It.

1:21:19.160 --> 1:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Was just it was a regular infecting. Because Samson's not

1:21:21.880 --> 1:21:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a murderer. He's not. He has no reason to kill him.

1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:26.000
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't even know who that guy is. He has

1:21:26.040 --> 1:21:29.679
<v Speaker 1>no idea if that guy killed Kelson because he wasn't there. Yeah,

1:21:29.720 --> 1:21:31.519
<v Speaker 1>so there'd be no real reason for him to kill him.

1:21:31.520 --> 1:21:34.960
<v Speaker 1>He just left with Sampson with Kelson's body. What would

1:21:34.960 --> 1:21:37.639
<v Speaker 1>be great is if they show that Samson has learned

1:21:37.680 --> 1:21:39.559
<v Speaker 1>the problem. I don't think they'll do all this, but

1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:42.439
<v Speaker 1>if Samson's learned the process of boiling the skin off

1:21:42.439 --> 1:21:44.879
<v Speaker 1>and then putting the skull. But I don't know that

1:21:44.880 --> 1:21:47.800
<v Speaker 1>that would be a bit much problem. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:21:47.520 --> 1:21:50.360
<v Speaker 1>but but but Spike mich go back and do it,

1:21:50.400 --> 1:21:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that would be dope.

1:21:51.439 --> 1:21:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Kelson's uh formula he I think he wrote that down too,

1:21:55.920 --> 1:21:57.679
<v Speaker 4>So that's in the bunker.

1:21:57.920 --> 1:22:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they should have that. There's gonna be a

1:22:00.479 --> 1:22:03.360
<v Speaker 1>reason for them to go back there. Yeah. Yeah, So

1:22:04.360 --> 1:22:08.719
<v Speaker 1>ain't last thoughts before we wrap this up. No, I'm glad.

1:22:08.760 --> 1:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad the movies are getting better. I'm glad the

1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:11.599
<v Speaker 1>movies are getting better.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll definitely watch it with all of this extra added

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<v Speaker 4>info uh on top. I think it'll be good and

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<v Speaker 4>I definitely want to watch them order, but definitely unapproven

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<v Speaker 4>for the first one. Yeah, I just want to read

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<v Speaker 4>it rate.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I'm glad they didn't follow that theme of the

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<v Speaker 3>last one, you know, because they had that hokey music

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<v Speaker 3>playing and ship and it made them seem really silly.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, And so you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, yeah, they abandoned that whole thing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, that was my concern coming into this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, they're gonna have that whole shit going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about this like that. You gotta be

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<v Speaker 3>a badass.

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<v Speaker 1>If they If they would have left that stupid music

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<v Speaker 1>out of the first one and they wouldn't have had

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<v Speaker 1>them jumping around like Power Ranger, it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>fucking great. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad they abandoned that whole There was no real

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<v Speaker 1>comic relief in here. Even the fit the fingers. They

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<v Speaker 1>weren't acting silly. They were actually fucking intimidating. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>real they were. I was like, oh man, this is good,

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<v Speaker 1>this is good. I'm glad. I walked out of the

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<v Speaker 1>theater happy because I was. I was walking into the

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<v Speaker 1>theater not wanting to watch this. Yeah you know. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I'm glad everybody at least liked it. I

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<v Speaker 1>fucking loved it. So definitely let us know what y'all thought,

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<v Speaker 1>Drop some comments, share it with a friend or two,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see y'all next time. And don't forget to

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<v Speaker 1>tell Spike that he needs to talk about these zombie dicks,

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<v Speaker 1>so spam him as much as you can. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see y'all next time. Peace,