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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: The Fame Second Podcast with the evening. My name is Mike.

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Speaker 1: Across me, I have Rod, and next to Rod, I

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Speaker 1: have Ken. Next to me, I should have Spike, but

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Speaker 1: Spike said he saw way too much Penis and he

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Speaker 1: could not bring himself out of the house, so he

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Speaker 1: is not going to be on this episode. But before

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Speaker 1: we even get started, what I need y'all to do

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Speaker 1: is spam Spike. Make Spike review this movie for Patreon

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Speaker 1: or solo, either one. Spike needs to talk about zombie Pennis. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so look, we're talking about the fact that we don't

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Speaker 1: want to have to see all this zombie pennis for nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I've had to go back and listen to the Oh,

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Speaker 3: I mean the first he was not happy about all

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Speaker 3: the Pennis.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember. So all right, So twenty eight years later,

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Speaker 1: the Bone Temple. This is the new installment in the franchise.

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Speaker 1: I know the Bone Temple and that some shit Spike

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Speaker 1: did not want to go nowhere near the Bone Temple.

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Speaker 1: But this was directed well, we'll say it was written

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Speaker 1: first off by Alice Garland, who wrote the others, meaning

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Speaker 1: the first twenty eight years later, as well as twenty

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Speaker 1: eight Days. He did not do Weeks and it was

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Speaker 1: directed by Nia DaCosta. I'm not gonna lie Nina Costa

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Speaker 1: is obviously she's one to did Candy Man, and she

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Speaker 1: also did the Marvels, the later Candy Man. I mean, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: the remake, so I was concerned. So let's start here, Rod,

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Speaker 1: what did you think of this film?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I thought it was I thought it was fine.

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Speaker 3: These films are surprising me. But I do remember liking

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Speaker 3: elements about the last one. I don't remember hating it.

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Speaker 3: These movies are not movies that I would rush to

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Speaker 3: if I were sure. But because and it's really because

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Speaker 3: we do the podcast, It's probably why I go see it.

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Speaker 3: But when I go see him, I'm like, oh, I

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Speaker 3: ain't waste my money, and you know, I got some

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Speaker 1: So this was no different.

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Speaker 3: I feel like this one I felt was a little

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Speaker 3: bit better because I feel like the other one was

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Speaker 3: a little bit like not ridiculous, but it did have

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Speaker 3: some ridiculous moments this one, and then I knew, I

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Speaker 3: remember it's not liking that in with Jimmy, we was

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Speaker 3: like what the hell are they doing with this silly

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Speaker 1: I remember thinking that.

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Speaker 3: So I was a little concerned about that going into

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Speaker 3: But they took a different direction with it, and I

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Speaker 3: was like, Okay, cool, this is a good direction they

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Speaker 3: took with it. So yeah, ultimately I thought it was

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Speaker 3: very solid, very solid story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely enjoyed it more than the last one.

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Speaker 4: There were some things that I was like, I, what

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Speaker 4: is this what we're really doing? But I think they

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Speaker 4: made it make a little bit more sense towards the end.

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Speaker 4: And also I had to remember certain things about this

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Speaker 4: particular movie versus other zombie movies, because I remember you

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Speaker 4: telling me the last time that they're not zombies. So

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Speaker 4: once I remember that part, I started to kind of

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Speaker 4: recalibrate a little bit to some of the things that

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Speaker 4: actually gonna go with it moving forward, but some of

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Speaker 4: the things that all question did make sense. So I

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Speaker 1: Okay, not a glowing recommendation, but alrighty, I fucking loved

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Speaker 1: it because of the ending. The ending was so fucking

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, nah, it was good. It was

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Speaker 1: I really like the first one. Now I still do

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Speaker 1: not like the ending. I still like the ending at all,

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Speaker 1: but I liked the movie itself. I think it's great.

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Speaker 1: Walking into this Nea the cost to have me concerned

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Speaker 1: Nia da Costa did so much better with the visuals,

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Speaker 1: with the story, with every sand the first movie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So you had questions about that, we'll get to them,

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Speaker 1: all right. So did y'all catch the hello at the

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Speaker 1: you mean? Somebody says hello? I don't think so, all right?

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Speaker 1: So that was from twenty eight days later, and I

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Speaker 1: from any zombie A Jason film. That's when Jim, who's

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Speaker 1: then he's attacked by a preacher Killian Murphy. Killian Murphy.

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Speaker 1: Who is He's the guy at the very end. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the scarecrow that just answered my questions. Yeah, oh, you

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Speaker 1: were like, who the fuck is that guy? Because people like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I was

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Speaker 4: the same way. I was like, wait, just that way

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Speaker 1: Amazing. Yeah, man. So yeah, so that plays into this

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Speaker 1: kind of cool that they included that. But it cuts

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Speaker 1: what's his last name, Sir Jimmy, So let's see. Oh god,

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Speaker 1: damn it, why did I write that? Fucking down? Crystal,

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Speaker 1: Sir Jimmy, Crystal, okay, And he says, if the new

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Speaker 4: I liked it because he won on accident, you know,

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Speaker 1: But but nah, I mean, a bunch of.

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Speaker 1: Agree with that Rod to a certain degree.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of with the other fingers, like, yo, it's

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Speaker 3: Right, Like I said, if it wasn't like a lucky

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Speaker 3: kind of weird that they accepted him even though it

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Speaker 1: Yep, but he wasn't.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I don't know what the rules were

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Speaker 1: Plus, at the end of the day, that guy was

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Speaker 4: You're if you're you're saying that they could have attempted

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Speaker 4: it wouldn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they would have eventually cured him

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Speaker 1: I thought it was fine, But I'm just saying it logically.

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Speaker 1: I also liked the fact that the fingers for all

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Then we see doctor Kelson who's removing

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Speaker 1: Did they show that they how they see other infected? No,

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Speaker 4: weeks left, Like, how are you going to figure out

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00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: a way to create some sort of vaccine or whatever.

434
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: How are you gonna have the what do you have

435
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: the equipment? Now I'm asking a question, are.

436
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 4: You gonna have the equipment to figure out what is

437
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 4: the actual thing that the morphine is curing? I think

438
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 4: he even talked through it, but now I'm asking question.

439
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, but now we make a progress.

440
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: But then I'm like, wait a minute, you can't cure zombies.

441
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 4: And that's when I remember, oh shit, Mike said, they're

442
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 4: not technically zombies.

443
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: I said, I forgot about that. Yoh. Now everything is

444
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: starting to kind of come there. I was like, oh shit.

445
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, okay.

446
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 4: I like what they're doing with this particular aspect of

447
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 4: the story, like taking something that we see as zombies

448
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 4: that are not zombies and finding a cure that I

449
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 4: don't that's never been done before.

450
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, this is interesting.

451
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I'm like, well, how does

452
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: this tie into Jimmy and the Fingers sound like a

453
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 4: fifties band, so how did this tie into all of them?

454
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: You know? So? Yeah, so I had an arguing argument

455
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: with a friend of mine. So do y'all not get

456
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: that the morphine wasn't what cured him? Yeah? What was it?

457
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: It was?

458
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: It was the the I'm about to say potion, but

459
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: the uh, the antidote or whatever you want to call it,

460
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 3: that he was trying to conjure up.

461
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: He gave him anti psychotic pills. Oh, and I think

462
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: that for some reason, when I would arguing with my homeboy,

463
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: he missed that and his friends missed it too, And

464
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: I was like, did y'all just close your eyes.

465
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 4: From but he said it too, now that you mentioned it,

466
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 4: he did say that. He said it was a psychosis.

467
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 4: He said it a few times.

468
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: Yes, the rage virus, he said, is a mental psychosis,

469
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: and it can be cured or maybe stopped or halted

470
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: at least with anti psychotic pills. And I was like,

471
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: Jesus Man, this movie these motherfuckers really thought into this. Yes.

472
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: The only thing what I was confused about is because

473
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 3: I don't I didn't remember that they weren't toombes technically,

474
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: So I was just like, okay, well, hold on, what

475
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: the hell going So you.

476
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: Were thinking that they were dead but undead? How the

477
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: fuck do that?

478
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: But I was like, yeah, maybe I missed something, you

479
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, so that makes a lot

480
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: of sense.

481
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: Here's the thing we got that from. You. Do they

482
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: ever say that in the film that they're not dead? No,

483
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: they just I don't know, but maybe they've said it

484
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: and I don't remember. But I always got this impression

485
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: because you notice they never have to shoot him in

486
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: the head. They can slip one of their throats and

487
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: they die, yes, or shoot them in the stomach and

488
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: they die. The only ones that don't die are the alphas.

489
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: But in all the other movies, if they just shoot them,

490
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: they go down and they die. So that tells me

491
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: they're not zombies because you shouldn't be able to shoot

492
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: a zombie in the stomach and it dies. You have

493
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: to shoot them in the head. So it's not following

494
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: zombie rules.

495
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 3: Yes, not following zombie rules, and you're saying that these

496
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: people will eventually die.

497
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: Yes, they will age, they will die. If they get

498
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: a bad flu and it hits, they will die.

499
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, which is why they probably

500
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: showed him carrying that lady back to the temple.

501
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: And that's why Yes, yeah, yeah, they're saying is I

502
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: said I cut you off? Go ahead? No no, no no,

503
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying so that. So they're saying it without

504
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: saying it. Yes, Yeah, they're showing, not telling like people

505
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: love to say. That's why the last movie focused so

506
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 1: much on Kelson's appreciation of the dead, and the all

507
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: momental Maury thing is remember we all must die or

508
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: remember death. That's why he focuses on that because these

509
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: are not zombies, they're real people. Interesting. So I thought

510
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: that was super super interesting. And I've said before zombie

511
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: films are my favorite sub genre of horror. As far

512
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: as I know, I've never seen a cure in a

513
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: zombie film. I've never seen it, So them doing this,

514
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: I think is super interesting. You would love to have

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525
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: into the Jimmy, let's go ahead finish the Sampson part.

526
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: This is a little bit out of order, but it

527
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. Sampson goes back to the train car

528
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: and while on the car, he has flashbacks of him

529
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: as a younger man on a train car and he's talking,

530
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: and he actually speaks. He says, I don't have a ticket.

531
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: So what did y'all think of this? And the preceding

532
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: fight with the other infected.

533
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if that had I don't have a

534
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: ticket stood out more than like when he was looking

535
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: at pictures of the moon and things like that, which

536
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: I said comes back around later.

537
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: So I thought that was interesting.

538
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: That's the part that I was like, oh shit, that's

539
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 3: Samson because he was a little boy in that situation.

540
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so so yeah.

541
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that connecting why he said moved to

542
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: him being a child.

543
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: Also the flashbacks of.

544
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: The memories because of the morphine psychosis drugs that he

545
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 4: was given, all that made sense to connect that. But

546
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 4: as soon as he said I don't have a ticket,

547
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, bruh, they gonna know you were not them.

548
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: And it's also just the showing without telling, because Sampson

549
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: obviously grew up like this.

550
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: Yes, so this is this is them implying that this

551
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: is where he was infected.

552
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: This is where he's infected, and now he's this big,

553
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: grown ass dude. So that shows that this isn't a zombie, right, yeah,

554
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: so that they are showing.

555
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if zombies. I'm pretty sure zombies get old.

556
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I don't know that I really

557
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: noticed because I've never noticed them.

558
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: Just like saying that they just become decrepit, like they

559
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: they you know what I'm saying like that, Yeah, they

560
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: don't get older. They don't get older. He actually grew

561
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: up like as a strong man. Wait, we didn't seem

562
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: to get bid as a kid.

563
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: We didn't, but but this is applying. Yeah, it's implying

564
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: that because the zombies at train. Yeah so yeah, so

565
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: he since a boy, he he's been the zombie. And

566
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's all the afflets.

567
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: They start off as as children and they just this

568
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: is their life.

569
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: They grow up as these.

570
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: Zombies or whatever, and that's you know, maybe that's why

571
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: they're afflet.

572
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: Was maybe maybe, but I think I thought of the

573
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: last film, they just said it was a mutation, that

574
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: the that the alp of what of the regular rage virus,

575
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: and they kind of make they kind of made it

576
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: seem like it was random. So I don't know, so

577
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: don't know, just.

578
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: Doesn't say that, like because how would this be a

579
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: mutation unless he came across something later, But they would

580
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: I feel like they would have shown that.

581
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: Well, because virus is mutant all the time. That's how

582
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: like COVID nineteen became what was it called after that?

583
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: Remember when COVID nineteen the alpha and then it went

584
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: to they called it something after after the regular? Yeah,

585
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: there was like different variants. That's how that happens because

586
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: viruses are constantly mutating. So I don't know. Maybe maybe

587
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: it's because he was a kid, or maybe it just

588
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: he got infected as a kid and it mutated at

589
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: some point.

590
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 4: I don't know, but but what I what I in

591
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: washing this, I was like, oh, Ship, he's gonna be

592
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: reinfected when they were biting him, and I'm like, bro.

593
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: All of their asses because there's a lot of these.

594
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 4: I know Samson is a bit more. But then then

595
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, Ship, is he only the alpha because

596
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: of the rage virus? Or like, so is he will

597
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: he start because he's starting to be cured lose certain

598
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 4: aspects of the rage virus that made him who he was.

599
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: But clearly it did not right, it did not because

600
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: there was only one person that walked off that trend.

601
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: And that was out that was that was Samson. Like

602
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm alpha for a reason. Yeah, But I did think

603
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: it was interesting though. If you notice that when the

604
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: fight happened, he took the loincloth Ship back off. He

605
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm lett my dick. Hang yeah do

606
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: that clear cured a little bit, but this dick is

607
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: still here.

608
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: Dog.

609
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: Maybe because I had it covered up. Y'all y'all forgot

610
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: y'all forgot about how big my ship is though, because

611
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: you jumping and bite me on my neck. Man, let

612
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: me show you how my dick dud man. But no,

613
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: you're saying that that that I don't have a ticket?

614
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: Part didn't jump out. I thought that was super interesting

615
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: because he was he was remembering his old life or whatever,

616
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: and an actual infected was talking to him. But he

617
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: in his mind it was a regular person asking for

618
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: a ticket. Oh yeah, that sh it was. It was creepy.

619
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: It was creepy.

620
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yah yah yah yeah yeah, because he was talking

621
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: to the effect, he looked, yes, I don't have a ticket.

622
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: When they knew that he's no longer and infected the

623
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: attack him. Yes some reason. Yeah, yeah, that ship was good.

624
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: That was good.

625
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that back up because yeah, that

626
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: what I did like that part.

627
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: I like that part of lie. I was like, this

628
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: is really really clever thinking and once again neared the

629
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: cost that I apologize for. I don't apologize because no,

630
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: you did make some some bath foms. Just wasn't your fault.

631
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: You fucking killed this ship, bro, even I can't call you, bro,

632
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't have it. I don't have you know what

633
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: for having so few talking lines. I don't know this

634
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: actor's name, but whoever played Samson? Fucking murdered this?

635
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, murder pactful every time he a few times he spoke,

636
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: it was impactful.

637
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: And you could you could read it on his face

638
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: that he was reverting. Man, this dude. Man.

639
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: Even before he said moon, Yeah, he was just like

640
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: you kind of see it in his face because.

641
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: He was staring at the moon and he was processing it. Man,

642
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: it was good. I'm gonna say something because I want

643
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: more of this morphine. You can't kill me now, ship

644
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: a tree. He never gets me hot, acting like a human, bro,

645
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: you appreciate you. So this cuts to a scene of

646
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: some survivors going through the woods and they encounter a

647
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: group of infected. But did anything jump out to you

648
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: about how they acted with the older guy who was

649
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: getting overrun. They didn't give a funk about him. Bro left.

650
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: But I love what she said when she was like

651
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 4: she said, no, he got himself killed.

652
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to be a hero.

653
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: That was because he had no business none walking up

654
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: on him like that when the gate was right there.

655
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: Stupid.

656
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it mays why you're trying to be a hero, man,

657
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: they as soon as that thing turned on him, she

658
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: bounced And I love that.

659
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: That felt real. I don't think we see that you

660
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: know nothing movies. That's exactly what I put in my

661
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: This is an attitude we don't normally see from folks

662
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: in the zombie world. They're always like, we need to

663
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 1: go help that person's in trouble, we need to go

664
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: save them.

665
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: But to remember they did it in twenty weeks twenty

666
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: eight weeks later? Is that the first one? That's the

667
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 3: first one days? Twenty eight days? Like she was the same,

668
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 3: She was the same way. She's like, no, he can't,

669
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: you know how fuck that? We gotta keep going. I

670
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: do remember that about that movie, so they want that

671
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: same shit.

672
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I forget her name too, now. Fuck yeah, she

673
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: wasn't walking dead? Was it her? The black girl? Is

674
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about racist ass? No, she's not walking dead,

675
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: But I can't think of her name. I know you're

676
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: talking about the black woman that was with Jim, but

677
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: I can't think of her name now Natalie. Maybe I

678
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: think her name was Natalie. But yeah, So this is

679
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: something we don't normally see in these movies. So you're

680
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: right with that, Ken or at least from my perspective,

681
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: and it actually it goes along with how Natalie thinks,

682
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: but it does not go along with what Jim thinks.

683
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: Jim thinks he will always go help, because that's the

684
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 1: conversation he had with Natalie, if that is her name.

685
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: They were discussing in twenty eight days if you ran

686
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: across somebody needed help, what would you do. She was like,

687
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: I'm leaving them, and Jim was like, I would never

688
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: do that. I would always go help. So this is

689
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: the first time you've seen people in this world are

690
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: just like fuck that, I'm out. And they clearly knew

691
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: the old guy. I don't know if that was anybody's

692
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: dad or anything, but the fact that they dipped I

693
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this is interesting. So the survivors of

694
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: the attack, Tom and Kathy go back to the farm

695
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: where they live. I guess they come about how many

696
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: people were over there, like four with like maybe four

697
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: other people, only to find that the fingers are there

698
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: and they're harassed over dinner. But things heat up when

699
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: they drag all of the survivors except Kathy. Because Kathy

700
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: gets away. They drag the rest of them into the

701
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: barn where they proceed to remove their shirts. What y'all

702
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: think about this scene? And why do you think Jimmy

703
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: was doing this? Real quick YEP played by Naomi Harris.

704
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: Her name was Selena and Selena Selena, I said Natalie,

705
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: but I was planted thinking of the yeah, person's real name.

706
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: But what was the last question you just asked? What

707
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: did you think about this scene? And why do you

708
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: think Jimmy was doing this? Oh? Man, I didn't.

709
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: It was confusing as to why Jimmy was doing it,

710
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 3: which we I mean, we found out later, but but

711
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: in this moment, I was confused. But yeah, I was

712
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: just like, damn, this is fucked up.

713
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: This is so fucked up, Like, yeah, why are you

714
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: torturing these people?

715
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: I didn't understand the point, Like, yeah, I just really

716
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: didn't understand the point, to be quite honest, it was

717
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: it was just it was just it was just messed

718
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: up to me.

719
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: I did like the fact that the lady got away.

720
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: And in that cause you know, everything that happened later,

721
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just didn't. I didn't understand. I know,

722
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: he said I'm talking to my father, which I thought

723
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: was a good reveal later. Yeah, that's just kind of

724
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: what what I was thinking. It just seemed very unnecessary.

725
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

726
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: I just didn't understand, like why you would go and

727
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: kill other civilians.

728
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: It was unnecessary, you know what I What I liked

729
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 4: is when he was having dinner, she was like, oh,

730
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: you guys gonna leave. It was like, yeah, we're gonna

731
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: kill you guys first and then we're gonna leave. The

732
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: other thing that I thought was interesting was you can

733
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 4: see sort of a reluctance by the other Jimmies to

734
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: do certain things. You know, like when the girl got

735
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: up to dance, it didn't look like she really wanted

736
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: to get up and do that dance, like she just

737
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: it looked like she was just doing it because it's Jimmy,

738
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: and Jimmy does crazy, weird things to people. So the

739
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 4: tearing of the shirt was just or the taking off

740
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 4: the shirt or whatever he called it was just him

741
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: just almost like keeping them in line because Jimmy's full

742
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: of shit, you know. And and most of them were around, well,

743
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 4: there were a couple that believed it, but other words

744
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 4: just were Therefore it seemed like one or two were

745
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 4: therefore survive. At least one was just this is the

746
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 4: way I'm serting to Savib because being on my own

747
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: isn't isn't isn't working. So I think for me, it

748
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: was just a way for him to kind of sell

749
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: this whole cult thing that he has going on to

750
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: other people.

751
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Interesting, So I slightly disagree with you. I do think

752
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: that Jimmy believes it. I think that Sir Jimmy believes it. Yes,

753
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: So he said so throughout the film, and this is

754
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: just one of those things of I just happened. You know.

755
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: He kept saying old Nick, Old Nick, Old Nick, Old Nick,

756
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: and that's not a common thing. But I only know

757
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: who it is because there's a band I like called

758
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: Old Nick, and I have an Old Nick shirt. And

759
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: I didn't not know that Old Nick is actually a

760
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: European name for Satan. So when he kept saying my

761
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: father is Old Nick and you need to please Old Nick,

762
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this fool thinks his dad is Satan.

763
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: So when he's doing all of these things, it's very

764
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: much like the Manson family. They're going out and they're

765
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: just killing people seemingly needlessly. But if he thinks his

766
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: dad is Old Nick and this pleases Old Nick, then

767
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: that's why he's doing it. They're basically killing people and

768
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: flaying people because it is pleasing to Satan. And I

769
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: do think that Jimmy did believe that. We'll get to why.

770
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: I get why you think he's full of shit. We'll

771
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: get to that later. But I thought the interesting thing

772
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: about this whole thing was him calling it a charity.

773
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty sure in the last review I did

774
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: bring up that these people were based after this guy

775
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: that I didn't know anything about. His name was Jimmy Savile.

776
00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: He was some like media star. Everyone loved him till

777
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: he died and they found that he was abusing kids.

778
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: He was known for charity work. So them calling what

779
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: they're doing to people, which is actually abuse, them calling

780
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: it charity work is more just like a shot at

781
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Sapple thing. So I again, I thought that

782
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: ship was super super, super interesting, and I thought that

783
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: the fucking peeling of the skin was like, bro, they're

784
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: still alive, especially the woman like you see just oh

785
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: my god. I was like, this ship is tight, tight, tight,

786
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: this ship tight as.

787
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: What be talking about. You'd be like, this ship tight.

788
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: But when it comes to the Nigga ship and.

789
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: This isn't real.

790
00:40:47,680 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: If this, Jimmy. If somebody made a glorified crazy it

791
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: was it like that. They showed it, but didn't show

792
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: all of it.

793
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: Enough exactly. Because you see them peeling the skin off

794
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: and just throwing it on the ground. I'm like, god damn.

795
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you see it in another scene too, because

796
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 3: it was like a face pilled at some.

797
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: Point and I didn't catch what that was. Wasn't that

798
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: before this part? Though?

799
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: It was before this. I see it before, but then

800
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: you don't realize why why? But now you see they've

801
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 3: been doing that ship to other people.

802
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like an animal was licking at or something.

803
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, what's the deal with the mask?

804
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 1: Remind me of walking whip with Alpha? Oh ship? Damn?

805
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even connect that all right. So Jimmy offers

806
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: Tom the chance to become one of his fingers by

807
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: killing one of the other fingers. That way he'll avoid

808
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: getting flayed. So Tom chooses to fight one of the

809
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: female fingers named Jemima or Jemima. What did you'll think about? Uh? Tom,

810
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: it was I think it was it gotta be it

811
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: gotta be jim some jim Mima, I'm pretty sure, but

812
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: what you think how that fight went.

813
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting because he picked her because

814
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: she thought she was the weakest obviously or whatnot.

815
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: And that ship did not playing his favorite at all.

816
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 3: It ain't even they ain't waste no time like they

817
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: were just like you about you up, light work, right,

818
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: she about to fuck you up?

819
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: So now, yeah, I thought that was good.

820
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: And I thought it was even better when the I

821
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: guess the wife or woman that was pregnant hit her

822
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: with the the ship because you don't see it, you

823
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: don't see it, you just hear it.

824
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: I was like, god, damn my cat kitty feline a stroke, right,

825
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: and then her nose starts bleeding, like what the fuck?

826
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: And then they revealed that that ship was in her

827
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: head all like yo, man, yeah yeah.

828
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: The direction of all of this was was this this

829
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: moment of the film right here. They they executed this masterfully,

830
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: like the way they did this scene. Yeah, I I

831
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the scene. It was a good, good film work.

832
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 4: Right here, and really kind of smart to keep the

833
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 4: kid out. So now all of that of a sudden

834
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: that makes sense. He runs out, he's throwing up. The

835
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 4: other person comes back after scouting and We're like, all right,

836
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: I'll stay out you because if he was in there,

837
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: he would have been chosen. So yeah, so having him

838
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 4: away from this, you know, and let her be the

839
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: one that looked like the weakest made sense. And I'm like, oh,

840
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: he's gonna try to fight this kid, and there's no

841
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: way this kid gonna win.

842
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: But I forgot he was outside, so.

843
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: And I went if the other finger knew that that

844
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: this is disinitiation was about to go down and he's

845
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: probably gonna end up getting picked. Which other finger, the

846
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: one that was out there with with uh what's his name?

847
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: Spike? Yeah, no, she she she had gone to scout,

848
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: but she never took she never took nick uh Nick

849
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: Spike back in. So I wanted she knew the whole time, like, no,

850
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: it's best for you to stay out here. Oh, I

851
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: see what you're saying.

852
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, oh okay, because she knew that at the

853
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 4: end it is he was going to have him pick

854
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 4: somebody to fight.

855
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: If you bring your ass and then you're gonna die,

856
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna choose. I didn't think about that, but yeah,

857
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: you may be right.

858
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: Man knows the ritual or the process. So that is

859
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 4: interesting that would add an extra element to it.

860
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: But I was one. I was like, I don't think

861
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: she's gonna be an easy exit. Bro, I did too,

862
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: that would have been too easy.

863
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but I didn't know she was gonna be

864
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 4: that nice with it.

865
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: That was the thing that got almost like she was

866
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: the best fighter. Yeah, and they're talking ship to him. Yeah,

867
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: I know why you picked me. This ain't what you want.

868
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 1: It ain't what you think. It is what you got.

869
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: The little wings on my back and see me doing

870
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: that little dance you thought you.

871
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if somebody, well Muhammad Ali used

872
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 4: to do that ship said dance, motherfucker, whoop your ass,

873
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: get your ass and dancing on it. But and then

874
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 4: now now that we're talking about I was like, and

875
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: I think she was. She was like she was actually

876
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 4: pretending and looking like she didn't want to be picked,

877
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: but she wanted to.

878
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: Be picked the whole time. She felt like killing the motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah,

879
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: so that ship was tight.

880
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: And that was another thing I wanted to point out

881
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: about this scene. Oh yeah, when when the other fingers

882
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: outside and she's just like, you know, don't sound like

883
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 3: normal scream.

884
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they went back and forth that ship was That

885
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: ship was cool? I did pick up on that because

886
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: I put that down because the after after Jemima is killed, Uh,

887
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: Tom is all fucked up. He's been stabbed a few times,

888
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: but he's able to grab a propane tank and starts

889
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: earning motherfuckers in there. So I thought that was dope.

890
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: But that causes the whole place to burn down. Where

891
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: did he get the spark from? There? Was there was

892
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: a fire something on the desk Okay, yeah, I can't

893
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: remember what it was, but there was either a lighter

894
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: or something. There was something on the desk that he

895
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: pointed the propane tank at and then just started using

896
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: it like a fucking flame. They were asking the same

897
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: thing to get that ship from. Yeah, that was so.

898
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: That was good. This part was great. But uh so, yes,

899
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: they go outside. A couple of the fingers have now

900
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: been burned to death. Uh, Sir Jimmy tells Spike to

901
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: go get Kathy because he saw Kathy getting away. What

902
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: do y'all think about what happened between Spike and Kathy.

903
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: I loved it.

904
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was gonna happen either. Thought she

905
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 2: was gonna take the She pushed a ship out of Spike.

906
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: She was right, Bro, don't trust I don't know you.

907
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: But it's so it's so like counter anti movie, like

908
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 4: it's anti to what you're seeing movie, Like this is

909
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: this kid, this kid clearly like doesn't want to be there.

910
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: He had his guard down and everything.

911
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, like he like he's a child like you would

912
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: think she would be she's pregnant, would be sympathetically.

913
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: I don't know him, bro, Man, it was good.

914
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: I was not expecting that at all. When she punched

915
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 3: that little motherfucker fell over.

916
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: Its like, are you serious? Yeah, yeah, I'm serious. She's like,

917
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm out. I did not know you. No, this was

918
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: this was this was well done to me.

919
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: This was super well done to be. It was um

920
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: ship I couldn't catch a break.

921
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah he was.

922
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: He was on a rough day the rest of the movie. Actually,

923
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 4: that's just fund out there in a while. He could

924
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: have took his ass home, bro, from the first movie

925
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: out there period, That's what I'm saying.

926
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: She never took his at the beginning. Yeah, you're right. Yeah,

927
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: so you bought this song. So the other female, Jimmy

928
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: who I don't know if she had a name. I

929
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: saw people calling her Jimmy Ink, but I don't know

930
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: if they ever said that. They did call her in

931
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: the movie. Okay, So the other female, Jimmy Jimmy Ink,

932
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: was sent out earlier to go scout for a new

933
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: place for them to attack, but she ran across Kelson

934
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: talking to Samson. So as Sir Jimmy is debating Spike's

935
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: punishment for not bringing Kathy back, she decides to tell

936
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: them about Kelson, who she's convinced is Satan. So they

937
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: trecked his place. They don't say yet, but she's calling

938
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: old Nick but I knew what she meant. Yeah, I

939
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: think that's actually kind of cool once you get the reveal.

940
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: But so they go to his place where they all

941
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: witness uh Kelson in the Bone Temple. So Sir Jimmy

942
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: tells the crew that Kelson is indeed his father, but

943
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: he needs to go talk to him first before everybody

944
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: else does. So where'd y'all think of thevo between Kelson

945
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: and Sir Jimmy?

946
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 3: This was good, This is good and I and it

947
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 3: was interesting to see him like, yeah, this motherfucker, what's.

948
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: Going on with this nig over here? Like like you

949
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: start sitting when you talking about bullshit or whatever.

950
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: Now you see like, Okay, maybe he is on some

951
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 3: bullshit because he doesn't know, and then even the Jimmy

952
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: ink can catch on, like, Yo, why this motherfucker I

953
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: don't know about this place if he's so connected to

954
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 3: Nick or whatever.

955
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 1: But but nah, I like this. I like this moment.

956
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: This is good.

957
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 3: Good too, Like the conversation between them both the only

958
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: things that I didn't feel like they showed that Kelson

959
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: filled his life the way he said he did.

960
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: It didn't seem that way to me.

961
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: I think Kelson is just very You don't survive that

962
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 4: long without being very self aware. So I think he

963
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: realized that Jimmy was a threat and that he was

964
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 4: gonna do what he could to appease him to preserve

965
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 4: his life.

966
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

967
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: See, I never because Kelson is being able to survive

968
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: this long.

969
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I didn't see because he said that.

970
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 3: In the narration that you know, first time he filled

971
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: his life like this, And I just didn't feel like

972
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: if he known about Jimmy.

973
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: You're saying, just how how he came across his demeanor,

974
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: how you look.

975
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: You you didn't see it like I could see if

976
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: you heard stories about Jamie and be.

977
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: A big dig zombie for like a movie in years.

978
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: I think you'd be more scared of that, but he wasn't.

979
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 4: He probably numbed him to everything. He was like shit

980
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 4: and I survived that. I ain't worried about this.

981
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. But that's not That's not

982
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: what what the narrative was. And there was that he

983
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 3: filled his life, and I'm just like, hu, that's that that.

984
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like Jimmy was enough for him to

985
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: fear his life that way. I don't remember if Jimmy

986
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: ever said his name. I think he did, And if

987
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: he did, then that would explain why Kelson would have

988
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: been a bit fearful because if you remember in the

989
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: first one, remember the zombie they run across that's been

990
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: hung upside down and have the Jimmy carved in him,

991
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: and then there's throughout the film there's graffiti about Jimmy.

992
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: So if Kelson has been collecting the bodies and he's

993
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: been seeing all this stuff, and if this guy walks

994
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: up and he's like, my name is Jimmy, and then

995
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: he says, look, if you don't do this, I'm gonna

996
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: fucking kill you and I'm gonna stuff your intestines down

997
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: your throat. That would be enough for Kelson to be like,

998
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: well fuck, Becausekelson's extremely smart. So that would explain why

999
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: Kelson would be like, fuck, that's that guy. This is

1000
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: the guy that's been going around doing this shit. So

1001
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: maybe I should believe him. That's the only baal I

1002
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: can give it. Otherwise, I'm with you. Why would he

1003
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: automatically just think this guy is really that much that threat?

1004
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 3: But also, Kelson's not a fighter. He's not a fighter,

1005
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 3: but like you said, he's very smart. And this motherfucker

1006
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: has like fucking what do you call the ships.

1007
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: The morphine harpoons harpoons and ship like you this motherfucker

1008
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: run up, get done up. Not by Kelson, though, yeah

1009
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: you motherfucker harpoos. He hit him from a distance. Yeah,

1010
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: but a morphine harpoon is not gonna do it be

1011
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: a morphine when it'll be a kill shot. Was gonna

1012
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: gill Sampson. That was just an overdose I thought he

1013
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: was gonna give.

1014
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: What I think is that because he's a doctor, he

1015
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: could easily get him like syringe, Like, mother fuck you

1016
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: run up and when you want to.

1017
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: Poke your ass, but he not if he's not a fighter,

1018
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: and if he has a whole crew of other people,

1019
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: because because he says I'm gonna get but you don't

1020
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: see him. Yeah, but I don't think it would have

1021
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: been smart for Kelson. Just think this dude is lying

1022
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: because otherwise, why would he lie about having a crew,

1023
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: because that's the whole point. I'm going to get my

1024
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: crew and I'm bringing him back here. I feel you.

1025
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: So he knows he has a crew, Yeah, I guess so.

1026
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 3: And you don't know how big that crew is?

1027
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean sure, yeah, it could.

1028
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: It could be a situation like that. It was.

1029
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 4: It was It was good because I you know, I

1030
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: think you saw both of them kind of in their element,

1031
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 4: very calm.

1032
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: You know, nobody's yelling, nobody's screaming.

1033
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 4: You know, even the way he said it, just just

1034
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 4: like he told the family, It was like, yeah, if

1035
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 4: you don't do it, you know, this is what I'm

1036
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 4: gonna do to you.

1037
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: And I like how Kelson was questioning him, So you think, say,

1038
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 3: so you believe that?

1039
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1040
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was like, oh, this is interesting, is you?

1041
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 4: And I think with Kelson being smart, he also understands

1042
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: how colts work, and if this guy's talking like this,

1043
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: then it was like, all right, well, I don't want

1044
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 4: to take any chances, so if this is my best

1045
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 4: odds to survival, then I'll just go along with him.

1046
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 4: Maybe they'll just leave. Yeah, he'll probably keep me alive

1047
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 4: because he may need to come back. But this is

1048
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 4: also where as you mentioned earlier, I was like, Oh,

1049
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 4: this motherfucker just full of shit, because even when they

1050
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 4: were on top of the hill and he was looking

1051
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: like fuck, that's not what I thought it was. But

1052
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 4: I got to keep them believing this con, so I

1053
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 4: need to go down here to set this whole thing up.

1054
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: Shit hmm. I think this part was the only part

1055
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: that was a con. The rest of it wasn't a con.

1056
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: But he saw that they weren't believing. They weren't believing.

1057
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 4: But then the reason why pause was because of the

1058
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: last thing.

1059
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: That was part of the thing, part.

1060
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 4: Of the whole act that he asked that Old Nick

1061
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 4: was telling them to do, build a following and stuff

1062
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 4: like that.

1063
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: So now I'm wondering. But now it just.

1064
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 4: Looked like it looked like he had doubt. He looked

1065
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 4: like he was like fuck, Like, I came across something

1066
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 4: that they think is Saint Nick. So now I gotta

1067
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 4: go down here and convince them up Saint Nick that

1068
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 4: this is Old Nick in order to keep this act alive,

1069
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: because if they find out this guy isn't who Old Nick,

1070
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 4: then they won't fear me anymore. I would have I

1071
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 4: would not have power. So that's why I thought he

1072
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 4: was just bullshit.

1073
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: I did like that we got to reveal on this

1074
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: that's what we found out, Old Nick was the Satan.

1075
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 3: And then I started thinking about I know it's in

1076
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: the movie You've probably never seen, but Adam Sandler Little Nikki,

1077
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: you ever seen that.

1078
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: I've seen it.

1079
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, they refer to Satan as NICKI in that

1080
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 3: show in that movie, in that movie, and I was like, oh, well, duh,

1081
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: that's what he was talking about.

1082
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, again, I don't I don't think that Jimmy

1083
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: was bullshitting the whole time. I think Jimmy, which again,

1084
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: there's there's something he says later on that definitely solidified

1085
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: that he did think his father was Satan. But I

1086
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: think that this is the only part where the con

1087
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: comes in. He's like, well, they think that that's Satan.

1088
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: I can use this to my advantage because I have

1089
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: to keep a hold on this crew and I can't

1090
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: prove what I'm hearing and what I'm seeing. But if

1091
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: they think I can, then this is going to keep

1092
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: them loyal. So this is that's where the con comes in.

1093
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: But a quick aside before they can go meet Satan

1094
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: spiked side to sneak away, and then that other guy

1095
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: runs over and tries to catch him, and then Jemima

1096
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: comes over and saves him unless oh sorry, yes, Jimmy

1097
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: Ink comes over and saves him. Did y'all recognize Jimmy Ink?

1098
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: By the way, that was the girl from the uh,

1099
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: the Hawkeye show, the flag smasher girl, the one that

1100
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: Nixon has racist teeth. That's funny, that is. I know

1101
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: she looked familiar, but I couldn't. I couldn't. I did too,

1102
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: And second I got home, I was like, I have

1103
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: to go see who this girl is because looks the

1104
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: only thing I thought was interesting. It's not really a lie.

1105
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 4: I was like, it was just her saying like, no,

1106
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 4: I've been out there, I know what it's like to

1107
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 4: not have a crew. This is the best way to survive. Yeah,

1108
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: And that's why I was. And at this point I

1109
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 4: was like, oh, she just she just she don't believe

1110
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 4: this ship either. Until later, but I was like, Oh,

1111
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 4: you don't believe this. You just here because you don't

1112
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 4: have anybody else to protect you, and you're just trying to.

1113
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: Well.

1114
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 3: I think she believed to a certain degree. I think

1115
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 3: she had her doubts.

1116
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: I think she believed in Satan, but she had a

1117
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: doubt that Jimmy was really his son.

1118
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah okay, yeah, okay, okay, now connecting it all together, okay.

1119
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: But I think they all believed in the Satan part.

1120
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: They definitely all believed that because when she saw him,

1121
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: that's the first thing she thought. She's like, oh my god,

1122
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: that's Satan. That's the guy that Jimmy's been talking about. So,

1123
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: Sir Jimmy takes the other fingers to meet with old

1124
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: Nick slash Satan slash Kelson. What did y'all think of

1125
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: the scene? This is where he comes out he does

1126
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: the musical number to Iron Maiden.

1127
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 4: That shit was, Hey, man, I gotta give it to Kelsey, Bro,

1128
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 4: You're right, smartestle the hell of her performer. Bro, He's

1129
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 4: so that ship all the way the hell of a

1130
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 4: show man. He could not wait and we saw the

1131
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: whole movie. Rod he had been practicing the working on routine. Yeah, said,

1132
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: this is my moment.

1133
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: Man.

1134
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 4: When he came out and he had this thing bro

1135
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 4: with the little I don't know what that was.

1136
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this guy is all in. Yeah

1137
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: that ship.

1138
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: Even Jimmy was like, all right, damn, I'm impressed.

1139
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it was. It was. It was a good act.

1140
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: It was definitely a good act.

1141
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: And just seeing them all dance to it, this was

1142
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 4: when I was like, oh, ship, they actually do believe this.

1143
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 4: When I saw Jimmy, Ink was like, oh ship, Jimmy's

1144
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 4: believe that ship. Or maybe this was the point she

1145
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 4: was like, oh ship, this ship is real. You know,

1146
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 4: maybe she had her doubts, maybe her faith was question

1147
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: and then when she saw this, she was like, Oh,

1148
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 4: this ship is actually fucking real. So I'm back on board.

1149
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1150
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 4: But and then, so here's what I thought he was

1151
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 4: doing when he blew the ship in their face. I

1152
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 4: thought he was actually using that to knock them out

1153
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 4: and that's how he was going.

1154
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: To escape high But yeah, he was just getting oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1155
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: hallucinating a little bit Yeah, it just helped with the

1156
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: with the show.

1157
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought the show was to get them

1158
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: to lower their goal art so he can blow whatever.

1159
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 4: This stuff was poison or something in my mind at

1160
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 4: the time, and it wasn't to get them high. It

1161
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 4: was just to kind of make them fall out or

1162
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: something like that.

1163
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: And See, that's what I'm saying when I say that

1164
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: he's smart, he's he's a doctor.

1165
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: He can conjure up.

1166
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: Something not conjured, but he could create something that that would,

1167
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: you know, basically kill him if he wanted to, you

1168
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So that's why I was saying, like,

1169
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: is he does he feel like his life is threatened?

1170
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 4: Well, no, I don't think he had, So I get

1171
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 4: what you're saying. I don't think he had the things

1172
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: he needed to kill him to create that concoction.

1173
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was. Yeah, so I disagree

1174
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: with that. Oh remember Memento Maury, and then remember the

1175
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: what he said to Spike in the last film. Kelson

1176
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: doesn't want to kill anybody. Kelson believes that life is precious.

1177
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: He's like Morgan from Walking Down. So he didn't want

1178
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: to kill anybody. He just wanted them to leave. He

1179
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: only changed his mind when they started talking about killing people.

1180
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: Then he was like, oh, fuck, I can't do this.

1181
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: But as far as this scene goes, this is one

1182
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: of the greatest scenes I've seen in the movie in years.

1183
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm glad I was in the theater by myself because

1184
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: I was fucking singing the whole because I was like,

1185
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: first of all, the cinematography was amazing, the choreography was amazing,

1186
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: but this song choice was so perfect.

1187
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I was wondering because I know a lot of

1188
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 3: times people don't get that right for you.

1189
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: No, they got this perfect. But I was wondering they

1190
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: got this some right for you. The reason they got

1191
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: this so right And again, if this was near the

1192
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: Costa's decision, you are fucking brilliant, because first of all,

1193
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: this is one of the greatest metal songs of all time.

1194
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and get that out the way, one

1195
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,959
Speaker 1: of the greatest Iron Maiden songs, one of the greatest

1196
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: heavy metal songs ever written. People cheering when they saw it,

1197
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: bru I was like, yo, let's go. They was excited

1198
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: about it. Here's the brilliant part about this. On surface,

1199
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: it's just some guy saying six six six, the Number

1200
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: of the Beast. But the song is not really about

1201
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: Satan if you read the lyrics, it's about a person

1202
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: losing their grip with reality. He says. Uh, he says,

1203
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: just what I saw in mild dreams? Were they reflections

1204
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: of my warped mind staring back at me. That goes

1205
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: to this movie, because in my dreams, they're always there,

1206
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: the evil the evil face that twists my mind and

1207
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: brings me to despair. This is the movie that shit like,

1208
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: I hear that ship. But okay, if you if you

1209
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: actually sat down and read the lyrics for this song,

1210
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: and then you would get why I think that this

1211
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: is a brilliant, brilliant, fucking They could have picked anything.

1212
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: They could have picked Metallica, they could have picked Slayer,

1213
01:01:54,520 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: they could have picked anything. Oh god, yeah this wasn't this.

1214
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: But the second I saw when he went into his

1215
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: bunker and he picked up the Number of the Beast album,

1216
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, that is fucking brilliant, brilliant.

1217
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: So yes, I was in the fucking theater like, yo,

1218
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: this is this is too good man.

1219
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: I blessed this to eleven or something like that. He said,

1220
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: I forgot the number he said, but he was he's going.

1221
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: To that's a reference to like spinal tap amplifiers guitar,

1222
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: and in spinal Tap they're like, Noah, turn that ship

1223
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: up to eleven. So that's always been like a heavy

1224
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: metal turn your ship up to eleven as possible.

1225
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: So I was like, why did he say it specifically?

1226
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, that that makes sense.

1227
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: That's why. So I love little details like that. After

1228
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: the song, Kelson tries to move forward with the plan

1229
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: to pretended he's Satan and send the Fingers off, which

1230
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: to kind of give the Fingers a renewed trust in

1231
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: Sir Jimmy. However, Kelson realizes that that is Spike, and

1232
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: he changes his mind about the plan because he realized

1233
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: they're about to go off and kill other people. Now

1234
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: this is where I think things get real heady. I'm

1235
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: gonna start with Ken because I want Rob to think

1236
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: about this for a minute. So, Ken, what did you

1237
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: think about what went down in this scene when he

1238
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: asked him to sacrifice himself? Yes?

1239
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know that's where he was going to go.

1240
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 4: I thought initially he was going to say my last command,

1241
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: and Jimmy's face was like.

1242
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: What are you talking about No, I think that's it.

1243
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: You know. I thought he was gonna say was to

1244
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: leave the kid, leave Spike with me. I did too,

1245
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: I did too. I didn't think he.

1246
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 4: Was gonna be like, nah, you need to kill yourself,

1247
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 4: which is also interesting because he doesn't want to kill people.

1248
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 4: So you know, if you're asking somebody to kill yourself,

1249
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: commit suicide, what do you think about that? But nevertheless,

1250
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 4: but I think it was also a way to get

1251
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 4: rid of the threat because this guy was saying that

1252
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 4: because Jimmy added on, I wanted to increase my my.

1253
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: Thus Jimmy added to multiple hands.

1254
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 4: Jimmy added that ship on later right in the moment.

1255
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,959
Speaker 4: That wasn't part of the script either. So yeah, because

1256
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 4: you can see him getting concerned, so tying all this

1257
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 4: in about him not wanting people to die blah blah blah,

1258
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 4: it made it made additional sense because he looked concerned

1259
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 4: about it.

1260
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: But when he saw Spike, he was like, this is

1261
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: a problem.

1262
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 4: But asking him to kill himself, you know, was one

1263
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 4: of a test of faith. And then I think it

1264
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 4: would also make them question Jimmy as well, because it

1265
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 4: was like, well, Ship, if you won't kill yourself and

1266
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 4: you're telling us all this bullshit about old Nick. Then

1267
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 4: do you actually have the faith that you say you

1268
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 4: have if you won't go through to act yourself and

1269
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 4: this is your father, this is Satan. We know the religion,

1270
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 4: but you're not following that. You're not following the script yourself.

1271
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 4: And it also revealed that he was he was Bush.

1272
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: And the whole time too.

1273
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 4: So definitely a very interesting turn that I did not

1274
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 4: see coming at all.

1275
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: I didn't realize they said kill you. I didn't realize

1276
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: he said told Jimmy to kill himself. I thought he

1277
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 3: was telling okay, he.

1278
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: Told he told the fingers that he needed to be sacrificed. Yes,

1279
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: because he's supposed to be my son. I want him

1280
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: to be sacrificed. So he didn't necessarily say to Jimmy,

1281
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: I need to go kill yourself, oh ship, yeah yeah, yeah.

1282
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: He didn't turn the burner on.

1283
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: All cold, just just is just soaking in the water, overcooked.

1284
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I didn't. I thought I missed something. That's

1285
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: why I ain't stop you or whatever.

1286
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 3: But you gotta cut me off, go ahead, No, but no,

1287
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: this was this was an interesting thing.

1288
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: Whatever. I didn't I didn't. I don't.

1289
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Speaker 3: I don't know where you're going with it, So I'll

1290
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 3: just I'll just defer to you. You're about to let

1291
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: the church down, sacrificial lambs. What do you want me

1292
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: to say?

1293
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: Okay, first thing, Uh, remember I told you what sir

1294
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 1: Jimmy Jimmy Crystal's name is. What are his initials? Then? God,

1295
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: damn j C, j C Jesus Christ. Did you notice

1296
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: where he stabbed.

1297
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 3: You're talking about like you're talking about when he hung

1298
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 3: him upward tailed him to the Christ.

1299
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: He was? Who else was stabbed in the ribs? Jesus?

1300
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: You letting the whole church down? Bro? This is why

1301
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: Drew keep be doing y'all like this. I was like,

1302
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: this is crazy. This is crazy. Right after he tells

1303
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: him and he needs to be sacrificed, he stabs Kelson unfortunately,

1304
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: and then Spike is the one that delivers the death

1305
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: blow and he stabs him in the ribs, which is

1306
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: the same place that Jesus Christ was stabbed in when

1307
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: he was on the cross. But okay, only a few

1308
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: more scenes here, fellas, all right, what did you think

1309
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: of the conversation between Spike and Kelson? As Kelson was

1310
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: dying and this this kind of goes back to I'll

1311
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: just tell y'all the momental mory thing, which basically means

1312
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: remember death or remember that we all must die. Yeah.

1313
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: Did did y'all find this part powerful and all? Yeah?

1314
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: For sure?

1315
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: For sure it was hard seeing Kelson die, but yeah,

1316
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 3: I felt like that's what made it that much more

1317
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 3: impactful and strong of a story.

1318
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was.

1319
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 4: Concerned because this whole time, Sampson over there whooping ass.

1320
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 4: So at one point I thought Sampson was going to

1321
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 4: come back through and kind of think, you know, I

1322
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 4: kind of liked that it didn't go that way, but

1323
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of beautiful honestly, him when

1324
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 4: he passes and he's dead, he's with the rest of

1325
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 4: the skulls. So when they kind of, you know, zoomed out,

1326
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 4: I was like, oh man, that's kind of dope how.

1327
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: They did that. So I thought that was that was done.

1328
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 4: You have the whole time Jimmy upside down to my

1329
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 4: wif you forsaken me.

1330
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that's the next part, yes, before you

1331
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: get there. Though, I did like.

1332
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: That Kelson was able to get the satisfaction of that

1333
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 3: of Samson telling him thank you.

1334
01:08:55,040 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: Before those it worked, so I thought, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1335
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: that was good. I did think that was cool as

1336
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: fuck too. But yes, so, as Sir Jimmy is in agony,

1337
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: crucified on the cross, Samson shows up and takes Kelson

1338
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: away after thanking him. What did y'all think of Sir

1339
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: Jimmy's final moments? So, since we already talked about Calson's

1340
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: final moments.

1341
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 3: This was satisfying as well for me, like to see him,

1342
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 3: I was. I was surprised they they followed through with this,

1343
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: but I thought it was a really really really good

1344
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 3: way to basically kill his character off.

1345
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, I agree, I agree.

1346
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 4: I think he just really needs to be around for

1347
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 4: one movie. I think, you know, I expected Samson to

1348
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 4: show up and just rip him apart. Me too, you know,

1349
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 4: because first of all, his supplies cut off, and like

1350
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 4: he said, thank you, you know, he thanked him, so

1351
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:55,959
Speaker 4: he's kind of back to himself.

1352
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: But then I also was like, this shit, is he

1353
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 1: reinfected too?

1354
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 4: So I didn't know what was going on, but seeing

1355
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 4: him upside down, thought about why are you forsaking me?

1356
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 4: Et cetera, et cetera, Like is it again now because

1357
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 4: I remember, I'm still thinking it's a con.

1358
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, ship is he is he really believing

1359
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: that ship I was telling you. Con.

1360
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why he saw him. He saw.

1361
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: So he just got it wrong. Oh.

1362
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 4: So you think when he saw Sampson walking up, he

1363
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 4: thought that was on Nick.

1364
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, he saw Samson walking up, he saw him

1365
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: as the devil. Because at first I was like, what

1366
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: is what is that? And then when he got closer

1367
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 1: and it was I was like, oh, ship, that's him

1368
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: seeing Samson as old Nick. Okay, damn, you need to

1369
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: rewatch this. Yeah, and you know what, the Father, why

1370
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: have you forsaken? Anything comes from right, the Bible? Right,

1371
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: the Bible right, you should know. Come on now, yeah,

1372
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: just like leaving him on earth to die. But who

1373
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: said it? Jesus? Thank you God. I mean, come on,

1374
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm just saying yes, yeah, so yeah, so Jesus says

1375
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 1: this while he's dying on the cross, this whole Father.

1376
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: But remember in the first movie, well the first twenty

1377
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: eight years later, Sir Jimmy says it when he's under

1378
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: the ground and he sees his actual father getting killed.

1379
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: Y'all remember that part at the beginning of the film

1380
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. Do remember he says, Father, why have you

1381
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: forsaken me? So now we're getting a repeat of that scene.

1382
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: But here's the ship that fucked me up. Are y'all

1383
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: familiar with Saint Peter? Okay, go ahead, only again. The

1384
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: only reason I know is because I'm a nerd. But

1385
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,759
Speaker 1: Saint Peter was one of the people that was crucified

1386
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: on a cross upside down. Oh oh oh wait, No,

1387
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yeah, there were very few

1388
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: people that were done that way, but he was one

1389
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: of the ones that were. He was crucified upside down.

1390
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: So I had to write this part down because this

1391
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: shit was bugging me. St Peter, who I mean? Yeah?

1392
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: What did he do? He was one of Jesus's first apostles.

1393
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: Jesus called him and his brother Andrew to be fishers

1394
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 1: of men and this is a term used by Jesus

1395
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: to call for his flock. Wait term used by Jesus

1396
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: to call his flock. Instead of catching fish, they would

1397
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: catch people for God by sharing the gospel, bringing them

1398
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: into the Christian faith and making disciples. And it means

1399
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: actively spreading the message of Jesus to lead others to

1400
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: faith and eternal life. Who does that sound like? Does

1401
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: that not sound like Sir Jimmy? It does. It's the

1402
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: same ship that Sir Jimmy was doing. And they crucified

1403
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: Saint Peter upside down. They crucified Sir Jimmy.

1404
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 4: It's a smart movie, uh, which is great because I

1405
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,759
Speaker 4: like smart movies like that. Like you said, those little details,

1406
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 4: the thing about it that sit in the Saint Peter

1407
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 4: in the Bible.

1408
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if Saint peters in the Bible the

1409
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: Dead Sea scrolls next to g anywhere you got it

1410
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: there the extended version of the Bible, like the Lossya scrolls. Yeah,

1411
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: I think he might have been hold on.

1412
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 4: So they edited. We need to take that out. We

1413
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 4: on need that story of Saint Peter, uh, snatching up people, right,

1414
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 4: we need to change the fish or something. We can't

1415
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 4: have taking up snatching up people. No, it ain't how

1416
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 4: doesn't need to go.

1417
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: Saint Peter's in the Bible.

1418
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 3: He's in the New Testament being hung upside Matthew, Mark, Luke,

1419
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 3: and John but crucified us side down.

1420
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: He's in. He's one of the few people that was

1421
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: crucified upside down. Mm hmm. Damn. They didn't teach me nothing.

1422
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 4: And in Sunday School Ride, I didn't get that lesson

1423
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 4: get down and that I remember.

1424
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: Ye Oh, I didn't know this part. He was crucified

1425
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: upside down in Rome at his own request as he

1426
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: felt unworthy to die in the same manner as Jesus. So, so,

1427
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: who's from you upside down? Hm? Wow? Yep, the acts

1428
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: of Saint Peter. And it's symbolized by the inverted cross

1429
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 1: that humility. Oh no, Jesus Christ. No, because it's in

1430
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: the Old Testament, isn't it. I can't remember. Well, anyways,

1431
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: I thought that shit blew my mind. That shit blew

1432
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: my fucking mind. I was like, this movie is very

1433
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: is it's doing a lot of detail. But this now, again,

1434
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: this is just me saying this shit. I don't know

1435
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: if this is really what they were thinking, but I

1436
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: can't imagine the fucking coincidence. So this is the last scene.

1437
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

1438
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: Basically, the movie ends with us seeing Jim from twenty

1439
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: eight days later and his daughter Sam talking before seeing

1440
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: Spike and Jimmy Ink whose name is actually Kelly, running

1441
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: from some infected and the movie ends with Jim going

1442
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: out there and Sam asking are you going to help them?

1443
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: And he says of course, and then it ends. So

1444
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: what did y'all think of how it ended?

1445
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: No, I thought that was that was especially knowing that

1446
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 3: that's and I had an inkling that that might have

1447
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 3: been the guy like somebody from the first movie. But

1448
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 3: now it's when I looked up to Selena girl, I

1449
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, of course it was him, but he

1450
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 3: was younger obviously.

1451
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1452
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was like, oh man, that is a

1453
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 3: really really nice detail. So, yeah, they're franchising this out,

1454
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 3: but now I like it. I like it though.

1455
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: It makes me interested to see what's gonna happen next.

1456
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: They're doing three, right, they're doing one more hopefully after

1457
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: that they end this because I don't want them to

1458
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 1: funck this up.

1459
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, so that made the ending better because

1460
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 4: it feels like there's a progression for me in terms

1461
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 4: of like the movies getting better.

1462
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1463
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 4: So I ever rewatched the first one. I wanted to

1464
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 4: rewatch it before I went I saw.

1465
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 5: This one, but because I feel it overboard with that

1466
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 5: first one, well, they cleaned it up, but I felt

1467
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 5: like it would have been I felt like watching him

1468
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 5: like that would have really added to it.

1469
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: I just I regretted, but I had limited window. I

1470
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: didn't have enough time.

1471
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 4: But anyway, but I'm like, okay, I like this one

1472
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 4: more than the first one. And I said, I it's

1473
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 4: an I got.

1474
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm with him coming back.

1475
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 4: I said, I should like the third one, so I

1476
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 4: hopefully so. I like where they're going with it in

1477
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 4: terms of connecting all of these and you know, with

1478
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 4: with bringing him.

1479
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: Back, because I'm starting to dig him.

1480
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 4: As an actor watching him in Peeka Blinders and stuff,

1481
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 4: so you know he's really good. Yeah yeah, and going

1482
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 4: to help them, which is you know, I think and

1483
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 4: she left people uh Kathy, Kathy, Well that guy got

1484
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 4: himself killed. But tying you back to the first one

1485
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 4: where you know, what was the lady's name where Nicole,

1486
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 4: when she said will we help somebody if they're in trouble,

1487
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 4: they were like no, yeah, yeah, he was like, of.

1488
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: Course we're gonna help, which I'm surprised why.

1489
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,759
Speaker 4: Because that exposes them Huh, that exposes them to risk.

1490
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's always been his personality. He wants to help.

1491
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 1: He does not want to see people die, and I

1492
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: think that that is setting up what's gonna happen in

1493
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 1: the next film, because just like you said, Kathy left

1494
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: and that is not Kathy's m o. Kathy's like, I'm

1495
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: not fucking risking my life for y'all motherfuckers, even though

1496
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: she kind of did by throwing that hook into that

1497
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: chick's head. But there there understanding of how the world

1498
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: works is if I see somebody dying or getting attacked,

1499
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go help you. But Jim's his motto

1500
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: has always been I'm going to help because even in

1501
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: the first one, he could have just bounced and left

1502
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: Selena and the other girl whose name I can't remember

1503
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: from the first film. He could have left both of

1504
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 1: them there and just left, but he didn't. He came

1505
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: back and almost died to free them. So when they

1506
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: showed I heard his voice and I was like, oh shit,

1507
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 1: that's Jim. That's Jim. And when he walked on screen,

1508
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: I was like, man, come on, bro, let's go. Let's go.

1509
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: And even though I don't always love cliffhanger movies, I

1510
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: thought the Cliffhanger was perfect.

1511
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 4: It was it was good, it was perfect, it was good.

1512
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 4: Did they ate him up a little bit? So that's

1513
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 4: how he looked like, Oh.

1514
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean twenty eight days later came out and two

1515
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: thousand something two thousand one.

1516
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 4: So you know what I forgot about and you just

1517
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 4: said it, I bro I forgot.

1518
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: We haven't seen Kathy since she left right out the

1519
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: gate two thousand and two. But the two that are

1520
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: in trouble, that Spike and Jimmy in Okay, all right, yeah,

1521
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 1: make sure. So we don't know where Kathy's at. Okay,

1522
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: we have no idea whe Kathy's at, but there's no

1523
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 1: way they introduce Kathy and they're not going to bring

1524
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: her back. So I think in the next film she's

1525
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 1: gonna come back for her get back. Damn.

1526
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 4: That's kind that's actually kind of cool that Kathy left

1527
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 4: and we don't know where she at.

1528
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: Damn. That's that's that's actually a pretty good world. But

1529
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: I like that. Wait, so it's Kathy from the first

1530
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: one too, Okay, right, Well, we don't know anything about

1531
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 1: Kathy except what we saw in this film. Okay, so

1532
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: right now we have Kathy, we have jim and his daughter.

1533
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: We don't know where Selena is, and we don't know

1534
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: if the other little girl from the first twenty eight

1535
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: days Later, we don't know if she is around either, right,

1536
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: we only see Jim and his daughter, right, his daughters

1537
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 1: clearly from from Selena. I mean unless he went and

1538
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: got Hi, another black woman, but that's unlikely. Yeah, and

1539
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: then and then we still have the village people, right,

1540
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: the village. Yes, yes, because we did not go. We

1541
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: did not back at all.

1542
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm was surprised they didn't. We didn't revisit that

1543
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 3: at all. It's just we just have Spike yep, yep.

1544
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: And y'all. Did we talk about the fact that that

1545
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: who the actor is that plays Sir Jimmy. No, that's

1546
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: the same dude that was in Sinners. Oh shit, I

1547
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: did look that up. I didn't remember him, but it's crazy.

1548
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: That was the main white guy, the main vampire who

1549
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: was also I think his name was cult in skins Uk,

1550
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: which I have said probably one hundred fifty times on

1551
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: the show that everybody needs to watch because it's fucking

1552
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: incredible skins Uk. A lot of the best actors you

1553
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: know come from that show. But yes, man, this this

1554
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: shit was fucking great. I cannot wait for the third one, man. Yeah,

1555
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: why you like it as much as you do? It's

1556
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: so much better than the first one. It's so much

1557
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: better than the first one. The story is better, the

1558
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 1: directing is better. I'm glad nead A Costa got to

1559
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: do this because her name was not held in high

1560
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: regard after the Marvels. But she came back and was like, no,

1561
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: let me show y'all motherfuckers what I do. And she

1562
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: killed it.

1563
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, a really good time or two with someone of

1564
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 4: the jump scares, like when Jamie was hanging upside down,

1565
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 4: like I noticed, motherfucker about the pop back.

1566
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot to mention that. Yeah, he was actually killed.

1567
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: He he saw Satan or what he thought was Satan

1568
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: and said, why have you forsaken me? Satan walked off

1569
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: and he's killed by a regular ass infected.

1570
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's killed about Sampson, Right, it was Sampson

1571
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 3: that came back and killed him, Right, It.

1572
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: Was just it was a regular infecting. Because Samson's not

1573
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: a murderer. He's not. He has no reason to kill him.

1574
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't even know who that guy is. He has

1575
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 1: no idea if that guy killed Kelson because he wasn't there. Yeah,

1576
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: so there'd be no real reason for him to kill him.

1577
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: He just left with Sampson with Kelson's body. What would

1578
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 1: be great is if they show that Samson has learned

1579
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: the problem. I don't think they'll do all this, but

1580
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: if Samson's learned the process of boiling the skin off

1581
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,879
Speaker 1: and then putting the skull. But I don't know that

1582
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: that would be a bit much problem. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1583
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: but but but Spike mich go back and do it,

1584
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: that would be dope.

1585
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 4: Kelson's uh formula he I think he wrote that down too,

1586
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 4: So that's in the bunker.

1587
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they should have that. There's gonna be a

1588
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: reason for them to go back there. Yeah. Yeah, So

1589
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 1: ain't last thoughts before we wrap this up. No, I'm glad.

1590
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm glad the movies are getting better. I'm glad the

1591
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: movies are getting better.

1592
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 4: I'll definitely watch it with all of this extra added

1593
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 4: info uh on top. I think it'll be good and

1594
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 4: I definitely want to watch them order, but definitely unapproven

1595
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 4: for the first one. Yeah, I just want to read

1596
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 4: it rate.

1597
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 3: Then I'm glad they didn't follow that theme of the

1598
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 3: last one, you know, because they had that hokey music

1599
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 3: playing and ship and it made them seem really silly.

1600
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: I agree, And so you know what I mean.

1601
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, they abandoned that whole thing that.

1602
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 3: Like I said, that was my concern coming into this.

1603
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, they're gonna have that whole shit going on.

1604
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 3: I don't know about this like that. You gotta be

1605
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 3: a badass.

1606
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: If they If they would have left that stupid music

1607
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: out of the first one and they wouldn't have had

1608
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: them jumping around like Power Ranger, it would have been

1609
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 1: fucking great. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm with you.

1610
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad they abandoned that whole There was no real

1611
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: comic relief in here. Even the fit the fingers. They

1612
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: weren't acting silly. They were actually fucking intimidating. No, it's

1613
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: real they were. I was like, oh man, this is good,

1614
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: this is good. I'm glad. I walked out of the

1615
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: theater happy because I was. I was walking into the

1616
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: theater not wanting to watch this. Yeah you know. So,

1617
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm glad everybody at least liked it. I

1618
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: fucking loved it. So definitely let us know what y'all thought,

1619
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: Drop some comments, share it with a friend or two,

1620
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: and we'll see y'all next time. And don't forget to

1621
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: tell Spike that he needs to talk about these zombie dicks,

1622
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: so spam him as much as you can. All Right,

1623
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: we'll see y'all next time. Peace,