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Speaker 2: You know what doesn't make sense is when I left

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Speaker 2: meet you all. I got my car, it said it

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Speaker 1: Yes, we have obviously professionally known one another, but never

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Speaker 1: You just heard the voice of Eddie Garrison. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Well? He that was the other thing is I mentioned yesterday?

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Speaker 1: You can still see that the pieces are there, and

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Speaker 1: I think that they still would like to get I

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Speaker 1: know they'd like to get one of those wings that's

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Speaker 1: going to be coming out. You gotta be a little

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Speaker 1: careful in that regard. But Tyre's Halliburton. I was watching

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Speaker 1: him last night during the timeouts, watching him move around.

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Speaker 1: There's more action, if you will, There's more movement with

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Speaker 1: him in terms of what we're not seeing in terms

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Speaker 1: of his starting to move, starting to run, starting to

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Speaker 1: play a little bit. Where is he versus where he

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Speaker 1: should be? And what does that mean for Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: and what we could prognosticate? What does it mean, what

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Speaker 1: does Isaiah Jackson's look look like? For Tyre's Haliburton, And

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Speaker 1: for you folks listening. For you folks listening that are

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Speaker 1: not elite level NBA or NFL athletes, this time of

447
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Speaker 1: year can present a challenge to the little aches and

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Speaker 1: pains that can become worse, and I'm curious about that.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I called up Ralph Reef and said, Ralph,

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Speaker 1: any change can come on the program, and he said absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and he's going to do it. Next that conversation. Next

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Speaker 1: big show lined up. We're going to talk a little

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Speaker 1: Big ten football, Yes we are. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the Milwaukee Bucks, their situation with

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Speaker 1: Giannis what that means, and we'll get back more into

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Speaker 1: the Pacers chat as well. But Ralph frief other side

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Speaker 1: here Thursday edition, Quarying Company on the Fan. It is

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Speaker 1: my obligation every time this song is played, not every time,

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Speaker 1: but every third time. Every third time I reference something

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Speaker 1: from this song. Eddie, do you remember what it is

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Speaker 1: about the memory of Jake Querry that pops up every

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Speaker 1: time this song is played?

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Speaker 3: Umm, as it pertains to our house, I do not.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty three, at Taylor University basketball camp, which

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Speaker 1: by the way, is a fantastic I know now parents

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Speaker 1: get too overconcerned with the basketball camps of you know, well,

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Speaker 1: I've got to go to five Star ABC or any

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Speaker 1: of those big time basketball camps. But in terms of

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Speaker 1: eleven years old and being away from home for the

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Speaker 1: first time. Taylor basketball camp, which I believe they still do,

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Speaker 1: was just fantastic when I was a kid. I loved it.

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Speaker 1: And the basketball players at Taylor were the camp counselors,

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Speaker 1: and of course we thought they were just a step

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Speaker 1: below the you know, eighty four Indiana National semi final

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Speaker 1: final Elite eight team, I should say, And it was great.

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Speaker 1: But they woke us up every morning in the dorms

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Speaker 1: by playing that song Our House by Madness, and every

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Speaker 1: time I hear it, I can immediately smell the sense

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Speaker 1: of the dormitory, knowing I'm just getting ready to go

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Speaker 1: down and eat my entire bodyweight of cap'n Crunch and

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Speaker 1: play basketball all day. Joining us now on the Java

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Speaker 1: Ralphreef dot com of course, the long time athletic trader,

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Speaker 1: and Ralph I thought to myself, you know what, football season,

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Speaker 1: at least for the mccult standpoint, is obviously complete. But

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Speaker 1: that's not to say that there aren't still injuries that

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Speaker 1: are out there that we need to discuss. So I

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Speaker 1: wanted to I wanted to bring you back for a

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Speaker 1: midterm refresher course. Is that fair?

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Speaker 4: That's very fair, Jake. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I failed all my midterms, so hopefully I do

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Speaker 1: better this time. Okay, uh reef Executive performance solutions by

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Speaker 1: the way, for Ralph Reef, Ralph, let's begin with this.

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Speaker 1: The last time that we talked, obviously we were discussing

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Speaker 1: injuries within the NFL, but the Tyres Halliburton injury is

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Speaker 1: one that we continue to have an eye on. And

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Speaker 1: if you look at the timeline of where he is,

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Speaker 1: we are essentially, I guess you'd say, what seven months

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Speaker 1: removed from that day in Oklahoma City, a thirty one

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Speaker 1: week Edie tells me specifically, and there's report that now

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Speaker 1: his range of motion and such that he's starting to

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Speaker 1: play a little bit of light pick up basketball, things

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Speaker 1: like that. Would this put him ahead of, behind of

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Speaker 1: or right about on the schedule of what you see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a very good news that we've been

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Speaker 4: hearing and seeing for those that are able to see

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Speaker 4: him pregame with the pacers. He's as that he said

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Speaker 4: thirty one weeks, maybe somewhere around two hundred and twenty days,

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Speaker 4: and he is right on target from all the metrics

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Speaker 4: that we use for within elite athletes and coming off

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Speaker 4: that surgery. So going back on that, you know, as

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Speaker 4: you said late June about the third week of junior

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Speaker 4: at the surgery. Here we are somewhat similar timeframe. Seven

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Speaker 4: months later he should be doing activity such has been reported,

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Speaker 4: but with a lot of a lot of reporting that

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Speaker 4: we aren't privy to. How does he recover from those situations?

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Speaker 4: Does he recover in within an hour, Does he take

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Speaker 4: a good night's sleep to feel like he can do

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Speaker 4: it again tomorrow? That kind of thing that we aren't

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Speaker 4: aware of, But all indications are he's right right on target.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the injury that he had, the

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Speaker 1: an achilles injury, the recovery time. I know that at

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Speaker 1: the time Ralph we had talked about the fact that

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Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton's one of the good news was that that

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Speaker 1: tear that he suffered was higher up on the achilles

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Speaker 1: than like, say, lower on the achilles. This obviously is

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Speaker 1: well beyond my intellectual capability. But how much fluctuation is

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Speaker 1: there from one person to the next in terms of

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Speaker 1: diagnosing or assessing timeline of an achilles versus other injuries?

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Speaker 1: Does it have more fluctuation less fluctuation than other injuries

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Speaker 1: that you see, If that makes sense what I'm asking, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it does.

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Speaker 4: And Achilles tendons, whether the ruptures down near the heel

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Speaker 4: or whether it's up right at the connection to the

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Speaker 4: calf muscle, it's pretty much a cookbook that anybody can

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Speaker 4: pull off the shelf and say, hey, it's seven months,

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Speaker 4: you should be at this point. And so, because blood

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Speaker 4: supply is about the same throughout the entire length of

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Speaker 4: the Achilles tendon from the calf in that transition from

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Speaker 4: the fleshy calf muscle into the tenderness material, blood supply

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Speaker 4: there is pretty much similar as it is all through

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Speaker 4: the Achilles structure.

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Speaker 1: So things don't.

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Speaker 4: Deviate a lot unless there are issues in the person's health. Otherwise,

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Speaker 4: autoimmune issue nutrition deficiencies. But none of those are present

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Speaker 4: in this person that we're talking about as far as

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Speaker 4: we know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I saw recently, and I

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Speaker 1: think it was Halliburton might have been the one to

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Speaker 1: say this or but it was thrown out there that

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Speaker 1: he has sensed the injury, that he has added thirty

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Speaker 1: pounds on his frame. Presumably that would be muscle, because

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Speaker 1: you know, especially when he wasn't running, he probably was

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Speaker 1: lifting weights, doing whatever. But either way, let's just say

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Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, that is a normal, healthy

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Speaker 1: thirty pound muscle mass addition to his body. Will that

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Speaker 1: in any way stress the achilles once it's repaired, because

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Speaker 1: it is more weight than any area of his body

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Speaker 1: was used to having prior to injury.

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Speaker 4: Yes, weight is a factor, no question. And thirty pounds,

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Speaker 4: come on, Jake, I mean, I wonder that's a lot, right,

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Speaker 4: And I wonder if that's a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: street rumor or.

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Speaker 1: What all is going on.

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Speaker 4: Obviously he has not been as physically active as.

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Speaker 6: You are when you're.

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Speaker 4: A starting player in the NBA. Think about the calories

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Speaker 4: burned and think about the lifestyle, how hard it is

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Speaker 4: to keep calories in the body. We had those issues

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Speaker 4: at the collegiate level with basketball players male and female.

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Speaker 4: That you know, your folks who are on the floor

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Speaker 4: for seventy five percent of the game, it's hard to

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Speaker 4: keep body weight on them. So this could be a

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Speaker 4: factor of being less active, but thirty pounds of muscle

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Speaker 4: or non muscle tissue, it does add stress to the

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Speaker 4: Achilles tendon, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: The again, Ralph Reefez my guest Java House peeling poor

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Speaker 1: guest line is where you were hearing his voice. The

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Speaker 1: comparison then when you look at Halliburton and where he stands,

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Speaker 1: that then opens the door to wondering where Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: may or may not be at this point in his recovery.

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Speaker 1: Any idea as to when the window might open that

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones also begins to kind of get some sort

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Speaker 1: of range of motion where he's able to then work

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Speaker 1: out and how that may line up for the Colts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that Daniel Jones, as I think we

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Speaker 4: talked about during the NFL season when that happened, I

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Speaker 4: fully expect him to be an active participant in OTAs

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Speaker 4: in may. I think that again, if Tyrese Halliburton were

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Speaker 4: transposed into the NFL, and we were in the NFL

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Speaker 4: season at seven months, and he's doing jump shooting, doing

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Speaker 4: some maybe lateral movements, all controlled activity, and you transpose

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Speaker 4: that to a person throwing passes, drop back plant, the

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Speaker 4: foot throw. I would think that at seven months Daniel

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Speaker 4: Jones will be very active throwing the football, and so

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Speaker 4: I anticipate seeing a lot of good reports about him.

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Speaker 4: He may be on a pitch count, you know, or

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Speaker 4: a leg step count, but he'll be very involved in May.

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Speaker 4: That's my feeling.

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Speaker 1: Stress fracture in the fifth meta tarsal, metataorsal, whatever it

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Speaker 1: might be. Basically, I think that's the the fifth I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about Obie Toppins injury here, Ralph. The fifth metatarsal

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Speaker 1: is that the little piggy that we we we all

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Speaker 1: the way home? Is that which one?

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Speaker 4: That is? That's the one And the fracture is not

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Speaker 4: up in the toe. It's actually in the long shaft

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Speaker 4: of the bone at the fore foot. So if you

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Speaker 4: reach down to the side of your foot, you'll feel

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Speaker 4: a pump about halfway between your heel and your little toe.

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Speaker 4: That's the head or that's the largest part of the

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Speaker 4: fifth metatarsal, and so the fracture generally occurs maybe an

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Speaker 4: inch towards the ses from that point, so it's a

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Speaker 4: mid shaft fracture that usually occurs. That's that's the fifth metatarsal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Obi Toppins recovery, it looks as though he

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Speaker 1: is getting close. What sort of, if any even psychological

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Speaker 1: things does a player or an athlete have to overcome,

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Speaker 1: especially one with the elite level even above ground athleticism

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Speaker 1: of Obie Toppin.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's you know, Jake.

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Speaker 4: Every setback creates a challenge for the athlete to go

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Speaker 4: back forward, you know. And each person has their own

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Speaker 4: resources do that. Some have their own grit build in,

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Speaker 4: but there is that moment, you know. I was prior

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Speaker 4: to this cause doing some reading on Kevin Durant and

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Speaker 4: his achille injury in twenty nineteen, and he made a

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Speaker 4: lot of statements about his fear. He actually thought about

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Speaker 4: retiring versus coming back on that achilles, but his timeframe

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Speaker 4: worked out really well for him. And so yes, Obi's

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Speaker 4: going to have you know, what's his game, right? His

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Speaker 4: game is he's an elite vertical jumper, and so he's

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Speaker 4: got to get confidence in that foot in random play,

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Speaker 4: and so that's that's where you can't predict your motions.

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Speaker 4: That means when you're actually playing, defending, moving offensively, where

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Speaker 4: you have to get to the point where your level

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Speaker 4: of mental confidence is such that it's not a thought

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Speaker 4: process any longer. And that's that's a timeline that no

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Speaker 4: one can predict. So it is a it is a barrier.

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Speaker 4: How tall that barrier is is truly an end visual

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Speaker 4: journey Ralph.

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Speaker 1: This time of year, you know, you see it a lot,

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Speaker 1: and I know this is going to sound really dumb

648
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Speaker 1: and elementary, but when we get almost a foot of

649
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Speaker 1: snow and you see people out there that are shoveling

650
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: the drive they're pushing a car out of a snow bank,

651
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: they're doing whatever they may do. You know, oftentimes you

652
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: just do it out of necessity and you don't think

653
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: about it. But at the same time, you are moving

654
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Speaker 1: your body in a range of motion or to a

655
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Speaker 1: physical exertion that perhaps it's not used to. What are

656
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Speaker 1: the if any, if any, what are what are the

657
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Speaker 1: risks of injury that the average weekend warrior might get

658
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: in the driveway the next couple of weeks and and

659
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: maybe should be looking out for that it might be

660
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: time to get it looked at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jake, this is yeah. I have friends that work

662
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Speaker 4: in the various emergency departments around central Indiana, and there's

663
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 4: a significant spike in cardiovascular visits. Stroke visits or stroke

664
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Speaker 4: emergencies and falls. Falls are are a big issue in

665
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Speaker 4: weather like this. And uh, you know, more of the

666
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: cardiovascular stuff can be somewhat age related. I know you've

667
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Speaker 4: had your own experience with this, and I wouldn't put

668
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Speaker 4: you anywhere near the my age group. And uh, but

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Speaker 4: you know, one of the one of one of the

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Speaker 4: first things we always say about when there's snow like

671
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 4: this and and individuals are contemplating going out grabbing their

672
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 4: shovel and and getting after it is try to talk

673
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: yourself out of that and and flag down some some

674
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: young man who's living in the neighborhood or young lady

675
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 4: that's uh, you know, throw them some money and have

676
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Speaker 4: them do it for you. But this is when the hidden,

677
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: hidden issues can certainly come up from a cardiovascar standpoint.

678
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: But but really the biggest issue that will last beyond

679
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: the know here a little bit is the freeze refreeze

680
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Speaker 4: and the fear and the actual falling that occurs, you know,

681
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Speaker 4: risk fractures, elbow fractures, head injuries. That's the real issue.

682
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: So the old adage of walk like a penguin, you know,

683
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Speaker 4: just slow down and go from there. You know, it's

684
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Speaker 4: hard to find a place to walk. It's just in

685
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Speaker 4: this kind of weather. And Butler University's men's cross country

686
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Speaker 4: team was on Washington Boulevard the other day at the

687
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Speaker 4: Crown of Washington Boulevard between forty ninth and fifty six

688
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Speaker 4: because it was dry and there was no ice. I mean,

689
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Speaker 4: it was like the only place they could find in

690
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Speaker 4: the Butler Tarkington area to run a normal stride. Everything

691
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Speaker 4: else is it really puts you at risk of falling?

692
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Speaker 1: You know, I live on Washington. If they could just

693
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Speaker 1: slide down that dry, that dry road a couple of blocks,

694
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Speaker 1: I'll be good to go. But all right, so Ralph,

695
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: somebody last last question then would be, if let's say

696
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Speaker 1: somebody does fall, they get that stinger in the elbow

697
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, they should start getting looked

698
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: at if the pain lasts how long? How do you

699
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: know the difference between hey, I just bruised it and

700
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: well I might have a serious problem here, or is

701
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: it that obvious when it happens, you've got a serious problem.

702
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, if things don't calm down within a twelve hour window,

703
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 4: and sometimes that can you don't last that long. But

704
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: if if things start to present with more swelling, lack

705
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Speaker 4: of range of motion, or the pain is just at

706
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Speaker 4: a level of hey, this should be gone by now,

707
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: and use an intuition, and I know good common sense.

708
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Speaker 4: We all weren't blessed with the same amount.

709
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Speaker 8: And but.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's mainly a factor of can I function

711
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: or not. That's my elbow the way it should Can

712
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: I grip a doorknob with my hand and wrist? Or

713
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 4: can I tie my shoes? And it's been it's been

714
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: two days now and I can't tie my shoes because

715
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 4: my wrist hurts too much. You need to you need

716
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 4: to seek advice for that, because those things can. Yeah,

717
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 4: the swelling might go away, the pain might dissipate, but

718
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 4: then you're left with a dysfunctional part of your body.

719
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: That may not be a big issue early on, but

720
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 4: it can certainly take its toll long term.

721
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Speaker 1: Ralph Reef dot com is the website r ei F

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Speaker 1: F for Reef Executive Performance Solutions. Ralph, always a pleasure.

723
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: I know you've got a busy pack day to day,

724
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: so squeezing us in. Always appreciate it. And if there

725
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: are some injury report issues of note for the Super Bowl,

726
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: we may have to bring you back and get the

727
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: lowdown on what's going on with that. But appreciate it

728
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: as always.

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00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 4: Oh it's my pleasure, Jake, Thank you very much.

730
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Speaker 1: Ralphreef joining us on the Joba House Peel and poor

731
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Speaker 1: guests on come Back. I've got a question for Eddie

732
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: as it relates to the Big Ten in Indiana in

733
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: college football. We'll do that other side, Tony. He's going

734
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: to join us too, talk pacers. Here on the fan,

735
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: Eddie's spinning all the hits today. Man, I like it

736
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: if it was hot in the first half of the eighties.

737
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: We've got you covered here on the fan, right, turn

738
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: up the knob and rip it off your hits of

739
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: the MTV era here on the fan now last.

740
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: Night a voice that you should have there. It needs

741
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: to be more of like a raspy like from all

742
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: the cigars.

743
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, tune it in right now and the fan.

744
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: That's more like Scott Farrell. That's more like the that's

745
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Farrell on the bench right.

746
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: The Cowboy or whatever he is and the water Boy

747
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: than nobody understands.

748
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: Nobody understands me either. Last night, listener Matthew sent me

749
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: a text and we were talking.

750
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: Matthew formerly of may now of Indiana.

751
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: No, this is Matthew formerly of Shelby County, now on

752
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: the east side of Indianapolis, Okay, And he listens to

753
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: the show. He works nights, so he sleeps during the

754
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: day and then gets up and he listens a lot

755
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: of times on replay on podcast on podcast for him.

756
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: But he said, yeah, he said, sometimes I'll watch you

757
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: on YouTube and the only problem is I can't always

758
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: hear the songs that Eddie's playing, and it's who other's.

759
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: There's like copyright laws there or whatever on the YouTube aspect,

760
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: so it's got to be separated. But he's spending the

761
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: great heads. All right, here's my question for you, Eddie.

762
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: You can ponder this for a while before you give

763
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: me your answer.

764
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: Okay.

765
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you'll have thirty five minutes

766
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Speaker 1: to ponder this, okay, because Tony East is upcoming. Correct. Yeah,

767
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: what Indiana just did is undoubtedly remarkable, and it would

768
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Speaker 1: be redundant and probably an overabundant exercise for me to

769
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: to sit here and talk to everybody in Indianapolis about

770
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: Indiana the significance of their turnaround in football and we

771
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: just did. We spend an entire year doing exactly that,

772
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: and then I did an entire show after they won

773
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: the title of trying to just illustrate to people what

774
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: all of it meant. And while it is absolutely incredible

775
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: and it still is hard to fathom, it still doesn't.

776
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: Like Brian Jacobson said it best, it's surreal, but it's real, right,

777
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem real. With all of that said,

778
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things in place that also

779
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: facilitated for it. Indiana gets all the credit in the

780
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: world for Scott Dolson seeing Kurt Signetti and saying, I

781
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: believe in what this guy can do, and I believe

782
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: that just because he was able to do it at

783
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: smaller schools doesn't mean he can't do it at Indiana.

784
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: And Indiana gets credit for also from the very top,

785
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: committing to making sure that they are financially speaking, doing

786
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: the things and building the blocks that allow for football

787
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: to do what it did, and it takes more than

788
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: you've got to start. You can't do it without great

789
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: players and a great coach. And Indiana checked those boxes.

790
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: But then it also turned around and got into nil

791
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: and transfer portal and everything else. So there were external

792
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: factors that assisted. Yes, the question I have for you

793
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: is this, and you got to think about it, Eddie.

794
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: You got thirty five minutes to think about it before

795
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: we discuss. Okay, you get to pick one team in

796
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, and I'll include Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA,

797
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: so we'll include those four as well as the original

798
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Big Ten, and then the other additions Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Nebraska.

799
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: So of the eighteen schools I just mentioned, you get to,

800
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison, pick one of them, and for every season

801
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: that passes that the school you select and does not

802
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: go to the Big Ten championship game in football, you

803
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: get a million dollars.

804
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 3: Can you repeat those schools again?

805
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: The entire Big Ten? Entire Big Ten, so the entire Big.

806
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: Dollars for every year the team does not make what.

807
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: Team would give you the most money? There's an answer

808
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: that is a knee jerk answer. People give. I think

809
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: that's the wrong answer, But think about it, and think

810
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: long and hard about it, and then tell me. We'll

811
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: talk about it after Tony East joins and Tony joins

812
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: us next. Okay, So to clarify the question again, basically

813
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: in its simplest form, what I'm saying is, of all

814
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: of the Big Ten schools, which one do you think,

815
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: starting today it will be the longest drought before they

816
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: are ever just starting today, that is the least likely

817
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: to in any point in the future make the Big

818
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: Ten championship game in football. And I think there's there

819
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: are a number of factors. Because Indiana just took the

820
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: blueprint on what it takes and ripped it up and

821
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: threw it out because you saw it. There are a

822
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: number of factors that need to come into play. But

823
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: if you get them all aligned, the things are kind

824
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: of set up right now for turnarounds within college athletics.

825
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: Turnaround for the Pacers last night at least in one

826
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: game by winning pretty exciting game because it did not

827
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: look like they were going to win against Chicago, and

828
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it looked a little bit

829
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: like turn back the clock night at the Fieldhouse and

830
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: Tony East joins us now from of course locked on

831
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: Pacers Forbes. He's on the Java House peeling poor guest line.

832
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: Java house dot com is the website, of course. They

833
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: also have locations where you can go into Java House,

834
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: one of them downtown Indie one and fish. What it

835
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: brought up Tony last night before we get to the

836
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: game itself and talking about the roster of the Pacers,

837
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: I agree or disagree last night, the crowd and the

838
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: energy in the building was pretty encouraging considering the weather,

839
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: the traffic, et cetera, and the way the season's gone big.

840
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 6: How many games have you missed this year?

841
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 8: This is relevant to your question.

842
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: Home games one or two. I'd have to think one

843
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: or two. I think.

844
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 6: So they played.

845
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 8: Washington that night that like nobody could get out of

846
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 8: their house. Those very few people at that game. That's

847
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 8: pretty much it this season in terms of games that

848
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 8: I thought the crowd was like small, Like they'd been

849
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 8: really good at filling up the arena and being into

850
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 8: the games. And that's why, like last.

851
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 6: Night, they were down like you and I mean, if

852
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 6: you were there, they were down like the whole.

853
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 8: Game, right, They were trailing basically from the middle of

854
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 8: the first quarter until they were like three minutes left,

855
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 8: and Jay Huff does a reverse dunk in the third

856
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 8: quarter and they're down like eight at the time, and

857
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 8: I thought, man, people were really psyched about that, Like

858
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 8: the crowd got into it, and you just kind of

859
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 8: felt with the crowd like they could get us run

860
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 8: of seven or eight points in a row here, like

861
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 8: they could be right back in this game. And sure enough,

862
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 8: the guys who all did it last year could do that.

863
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 8: In the last you know, seven minutes they were down

864
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 8: fourteen and then we're basically perfect the rest of the way.

865
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 8: Their crowd's been, uh, for a team that entered the

866
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 8: day with the worst record in the league. I've been

867
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 8: impressed all season by how many people are still coming

868
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 8: every night.

869
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: Do you think that's because people understand there's plausible reason

870
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: why they're bad.

871
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 8: So I think that's part of it. Like the sentimental

872
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 8: value of last season, even if the team stink last year,

873
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 8: still exists for some people, certainly, right the support.

874
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 6: Of that group and what they did and what they

875
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 6: could have done.

876
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 8: And then yeah, like the it's very understandable why they're bad,

877
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 8: and you know, for a team with twelve wins like

878
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 8: the other teams with twelve or fewer wins than that's

879
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 8: the Wizards, the Pelicans. Siakam is pretty comfortably the best

880
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 8: player on all the crappy teams in the league, right, Like,

881
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 8: you're gonna see a good player or several good players

882
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 8: as Memhar keeps better and things of that nature, Like

883
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 8: you know, it's going to be entertaining. They usually, outside

884
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 8: of last night, ironically, even though they won, played pretty

885
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 8: well for thirty five to forty minutes of the game.

886
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 8: Like you're gonna be entertained, You're going to see a

887
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 8: good player. There's a lot of sentiment to it, Like

888
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 8: I totally get why people are coming for lots of reasons,

889
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 8: and most of the time, you know, the very rarely get.

890
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 6: Like just stomped.

891
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 8: Right. They do lose a lot, obviously, but they've had

892
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 8: very few just straight up stinkers all year, so it's

893
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 8: very rarely boring too. I think that's good.

894
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: Okay, couple of players to I guess examined from last night.

895
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: All right, First off, and we talked about this. I

896
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier this week, I believe, and you

897
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: and I might have discussed this a little bit. But

898
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: are we going to look back Tony and say a

899
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: year or two I'll put it here's the better way

900
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: of asking this question. A year or two from now,

901
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: when we're watching the Pacers play the player that we

902
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: are going to then look at and say, now it

903
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: all makes sense because that gap year, and I'm going

904
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: to call this year a gap year, that gap year

905
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: most benefited this player because he most had to either

906
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: learn a new role or just be more comfortable in

907
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: the role he had, or diversify his skill set. What

908
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: player will that be two years from now that we

909
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: will look back on the twenty twenty five twenty twenty

910
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: six season and say he really benefited from that.

911
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 6: It's tough to pick one.

912
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 8: I want to pick two, but one of the two

913
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 8: had a really really bad start of the season is

914
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 8: now playing awesome, and the other one was hurt and

915
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 8: that is now playing pretty well. So I'll go with

916
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 8: Johnny Furpy first, and last night had like a moment

917
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 8: ish for him in that he's he all season has

918
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 8: with this starting role, been asked to guard really good

919
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 8: players quite often. Right, maybe not the best player of

920
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 8: the team, but the second bester at least somebody Varah talented.

921
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 8: He had great reps against that Lavine that stick out

922
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 8: in my head, for example, but he hasn't had like

923
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 8: a very like one. This is the one memorable play

924
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 8: that shows his defensive progress or anything like that. And

925
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 8: last night they go up one aaron Nis Smith's reverse layup.

926
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 8: They need one stop to win the game. He's guarded

927
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 8: Kobe White, the Bulls maybe most talented score and.

928
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 6: Just a flawless defensive rep.

929
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 8: Stays right with him, stays in front of him, stays

930
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 8: on his hip the whole way to the rim, makes

931
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 8: a shot awkward enough that Neie Smith can block it and.

932
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 6: The Pacers win the game. That defensive emergence for a

933
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 6: player of.

934
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 8: That size, like you can if you even if you

935
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 8: can't shoot, like you have a role on any team

936
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 8: if you can defend at that size. And so him

937
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 8: doing this for a pretty long stretch now of being

938
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 8: a quality defender and really good rebounder which they can

939
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 8: use at any position, I think has been super encouraging

940
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 8: for the Pacers that they have something with their second

941
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 8: round pick from last year. And he's been healthy for

942
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 8: a long stretch, but hadn't really happened in his career

943
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 8: to this point yet, and they've learned that him and

944
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 8: Siakam are a front.

945
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 6: Court that actually works. Right.

946
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 8: They had no idea if Siaka for if he made

947
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 8: any sense before these last couple of weeks. Now they're

948
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 8: starting together at the four to five, so that's obviously

949
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 8: one of them, and that pairing could be a thing

950
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 8: that when they're you know, hoping to be good again

951
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 8: next year, two years, whatever, could be a thing. And

952
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 8: of course it's now good that for the last I

953
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 8: mean almost a month and a half, jarfs Walker has

954
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 8: been reliably good. You know, I don't know how you

955
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 8: feel about this. Some players have their shooting percentage.

956
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 6: It is what it is.

957
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 8: But when a.

958
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 6: Guy shoots a three, do I feel like there's a

959
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 6: chance that goes in or on? And for Jaris, for

960
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 6: a long time this year, when.

961
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 8: Would shoot, I didn't feel like he was going to

962
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 8: the land. And recently I'm like, okay, now when he misses,

963
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 8: I'm surprised. Right, he's shot that well for the last

964
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 8: couple weeks or so, like, still over fifty percent for

965
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 8: a really long sample. It'll cool off a little, but

966
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 8: he's shooting awesome and he's adding more to it. He

967
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 8: had a forceful lay up last night where he just

968
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 8: cleared his defender out with the shoulder his defense his

969
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 8: mate strides basically every night, he just looks way more

970
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 8: comfortable and like he understands what's going on, what he

971
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 8: can do to help where his shots are coming from

972
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 8: in a way that he looked lost.

973
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 6: To start the season.

974
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 8: I mean, he couldn't make anything in the first month.

975
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 8: So if there's ever long stretches that sustained really good

976
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 8: play for Walker Furfey in future seasons or the playing

977
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 8: key roles for the upcoming you know, the pacers will

978
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 8: help great teams. This season will be a big part

979
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 8: of them getting the role experience. Why if you made

980
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 8: me pick one, I mean, Jared's has a chance to

981
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 8: have the ball more, which might have more consequence for

982
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 8: future teams. That Furbey defense has been so so fascinating

983
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 8: for this team recently.

984
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that they one of the things about Furfey,

985
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: as I was told Tony, I'm sure you've been told

986
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: the same, Tony East my guest Joba House peeling poor

987
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: guest line. When he first came out of Kansas. They

988
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: loved Furfey's defensive ability and then in addition to that

989
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: quick hands I know that sounds weird, but and quick

990
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: release and ability to shoot the ball in rotation. But

991
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: more so I think it was his defense and that

992
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: kind of surprised you, right, because fans fell in love

993
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: with his tomahawk docks and dunks in the Summer League

994
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: and an occasional three point shot here and there, but

995
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: defensively they liked now Jars Walker Tony. I'm beginning to

996
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: think that Walker. I don't know if maybe like an

997
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: alarm clock went off somebody i'd used the term the

998
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: fog was starting to lift. But it almost feels like

999
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: Walker decided, you know what, if my name is going

1000
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: to be mentioned in these trade deadline rumors, I'm going

1001
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: to go ahead and really make a case that you've

1002
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: got to take a long, hard look at moving on

1003
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: from me because he looks now like a player that

1004
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: could be a really nice sixth seventh guy for them

1005
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 1: for a long time. Agreed, Yeah, one hundred percent.

1006
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 8: I mean, if you can shoot threes and you're that size,

1007
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 8: even if your defense is just okay, great, the same

1008
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 8: thing with Ferby, but on the opposite you can play,

1009
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 8: and he certainly seems like him, and he defended well

1010
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 8: at Houston, but he has the capability to even grow

1011
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 8: more on that end of the floor. That's so significant

1012
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 8: for them, especially given where they drafted him.

1013
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 6: And you know, it's funny you.

1014
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 8: Mentioned the trade headline because I get to question all

1015
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 8: the time now with him playing better, like, Wow, how

1016
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 8: great for the Pacers that Jarris Walker's up his trade value?

1017
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: What do you think that?

1018
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 8: I'm like, he's on the Pacers. Shouldn't they be happy

1019
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 8: for them that he's more valuable to them than playing well?

1020
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 8: And of course it's always good en a young player

1021
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 8: plays well in general, but this has been I mean,

1022
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 8: they can trust him now, and I think that's a

1023
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 8: big thing because when.

1024
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 6: He met the volume or the volume may be the

1025
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 6: wrong word.

1026
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 8: Just how poorly his shot was at the start the season.

1027
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 8: He couldn't make anything, especially inside the ark. It was awful, right,

1028
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 8: They couldn't trust enough to finish plays like you know,

1029
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 8: you always wonder if guys aren't passing you the ball

1030
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 8: as much, or what your rhythm is when you're shooting

1031
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 8: like twelve percent from three over fifteen game stretches. And

1032
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 8: now it's like there will really wanting to.

1033
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 6: Give him the ball.

1034
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 8: They know he's going to make the right play. He's

1035
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 8: not stopping it as much. A SHOT's going up, a

1036
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 8: nice drive is coming, and he's added some straight line

1037
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 8: drives to the basket in a way that he really

1038
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 8: wasn't earlier in the season. It's just so significant from

1039
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 8: a trust perspective and value perspective. It's been huge for

1040
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 8: the Pacers that a guy that they thought could be

1041
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 8: better than he was playing is showing that he is

1042
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 8: better than he was playing to start the year.

1043
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: Does Ben Shepherd have trade value or would he if he?

1044
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: And I have no reason to believe they're trying to

1045
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: move him, But is he one that just kind of

1046
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: falls into the Okay, it would be a salary match thing,

1047
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: and that's about it.

1048
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know if it'd be overwhelmingly positive value.

1049
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 8: You certainly not first round pick or anything of that.

1050
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 6: Nat. Sure, you know, Look, he's proven in two straight postseasons.

1051
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 8: That he can play on that stage, which is good

1052
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 8: and means you're not a negative value player. And his

1053
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 8: contract is very, very cheap because he was picked late

1054
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 8: in the first round, so certainly not like a negative value.

1055
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 6: They don't need to get off of his money or anything.

1056
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 8: But you know, there's not a lot of teams that

1057
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 8: are a Ben Shepard away from being you know, much better,

1058
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 8: or he's the missing piece to what they're doing. So

1059
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 8: you know, a cozy second rounder might get it done.

1060
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 8: But I mean, if I'm the Pacers, I'm not looking

1061
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 8: to move him. I think if he is involved in

1062
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 8: a trade, it to what you just said, it's they

1063
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 8: need X amount of salary to make it work or

1064
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 8: to make it makes sense for both teams with whatever

1065
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 8: financial restrictions are in place, and he is the casualty

1066
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 8: of that, and it wouldn't be great for the Pacers

1067
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 8: to do that.

1068
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 4: That would hurt.

1069
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 8: He has again been in their rotation for two straight playoffs.

1070
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 8: But Furphy's emergence, Walker's emergence an upcoming fairly high draft

1071
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 8: picks certainly makes it easier to move off of some

1072
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 8: superfluous guys. If they consider him superfluous.

1073
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 6: They could do that.

1074
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 8: Tony.

1075
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned the potential of a high draft pick.

1076
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: Because they're six and five in their last eleven games,

1077
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: they're playing a lot better. Are they going to play

1078
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: their way out of having the best chance of getting

1079
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: a top three pick to get or even a top

1080
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: four pick to get one of the big four that

1081
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: would be in the upcoming draft, because when you look

1082
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: at it, Pascal Siaka doesn't want to sit, and Obi

1083
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: Toppin is going to be coming back soon, and we

1084
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: all know Obie Toppen is kind of like Buddy healed

1085
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: and the fact that he if he's healthy, he wants

1086
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: to play and not be sidelined. So are they going

1087
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: to be in a position now where we were talking

1088
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: about for so long this season? Hey, look there's Darren Peterson,

1089
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: there's aj demands that, there's Cameron Boozer to Now it's

1090
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: just like kind of slipping away in the hopes and

1091
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: dreams of one of those guys being in consideration for

1092
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: the Pacers.

1093
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how their priorities.

1094
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 8: Shift and when, because I mean, look, they'd have to

1095
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 8: win like twenty games in a row to be a

1096
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 8: playing team or so it's not maybe it's not that high,

1097
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 8: but to get to the win percentage of what the

1098
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 8: Hawks who are ten have now, I mean they have

1099
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 8: to win a number that they might not even win.

1100
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 6: The rest of the season total.

1101
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 8: Right, They're not making the playoffs, so they know that

1102
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 8: they're not dumb, right, So they have to figure out

1103
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 8: when the right time to pull the plug, evaluate the

1104
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 8: team differently. Think about the draft, really, is you know

1105
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 8: right the second it's like the Siakam All Star push,

1106
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 8: it's happening. They'll name the All Star reserves on Sunday, right,

1107
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 8: and then if he makes it, he's gonna play through

1108
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 8: All Star Obviously.

1109
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 6: I don't think they're.

1110
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 8: Gonna shut him down soon or anything like that. But

1111
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 8: what's the right about a minutes for him?

1112
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 6: He played thirty six last night.

1113
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 8: I don't think anyone thinks that's the right number.

1114
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 6: I think that's too high, right. I said that in

1115
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 6: November when you guys asked me if he was playing

1116
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 6: too much?

1117
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 8: And I get why he's playing a lot. They were

1118
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 8: able to come back and win because he was on

1119
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 8: the floor. But is that the best thing for their

1120
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 8: team long term?

1121
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 6: Probably not right?

1122
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 8: So when is the right time to shift away from that?

1123
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 6: Is it after All Star? Is it after the trade deadline?

1124
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 8: Is that some them Let's pretend they acquire a player

1125
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 8: of significance at the deadline, Well, they want to see

1126
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 8: that player play with Siakam Okay, how long how much

1127
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 8: of a sample do they want to get to learn

1128
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 8: about that before they really focused on it? So they

1129
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 8: have I mentioned this earlier. They have the best player

1130
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 8: of the bad teams, right, it's not even close. I

1131
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 8: think if you look at the inverse standings, the Hornets

1132
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 8: are sixth Thwarsts or seventh thwarts, excuse me, and they've

1133
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 8: won over forty percent of their games. I don't think

1134
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 8: the Pacers are getting a forty percent.

1135
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 6: So I think the Pincers are locked.

1136
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 8: Into bottom six of those six teams, though they have

1137
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 8: the best player this year, so they'll have to be

1138
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 8: pretty intention if they want to try to get even lower.

1139
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 6: Among that group. The Pelicans don't have their pick.

1140
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 8: They might be trying to win down the stretch, but

1141
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 8: it'll be hard to be as bad as the Nets,

1142
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 8: the Wizards, et cetera down the stretch, so they'll have

1143
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 8: to be really cognitive minutes and who's playing, and you

1144
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 8: know that's so it's hard to do. I think with

1145
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 8: tanking you can just kind of feel when it happens

1146
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 8: and starts. We'll see when that happens for the Pacers,

1147
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 8: but yeah, I mean sacrificing a good pick for you know,

1148
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 8: thirty six minutes of Siakam in late January. It maybe

1149
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 8: isn't the best one night thing, even if the win

1150
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 8: felt good for the fans and attendance and the team

1151
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 8: can see some successive FORRPY things of that nature.

1152
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 6: It's a hard balance, right, It certainly is.

1153
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: By the way, what do you think with the yannest

1154
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: news Tony Tony East our guest, you know, with Giannis

1155
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 1: running out in Milwaukee apparently, or Milwaukee prepared to ship

1156
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: him out. What do you think? And I don't mean

1157
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: this rhetorically in a haha kind of way. What does

1158
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: it mean? Not that people here care, but I think

1159
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: they're curious for Miles Turner. What is Miles Turner thinking?

1160
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: Do you think the Miles Turner move you've had anything

1161
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: to do with Yannis wanting out? Just the way that

1162
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: it is messed or not messed and et cetera.

1163
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's chief stakes.

1164
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 8: They're not even they're twelve in the East.

1165
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 6: They're two spots out of the play in right there.

1166
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 8: I thought that maybe not great, but certainly better than this,

1167
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 8: and they just keep having super disheartening losses. I think

1168
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 8: it's been a rough year for Doc Rivers in terms

1169
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 8: of his coaching resume. Do they regret the moles Turner

1170
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 8: move as the box, I mean, if they move, be honest.

1171
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 8: Maybe the thing is they don't have their own draft

1172
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 8: picks for a long time.

1173
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: Right, and they've got no money either, right right.

1174
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 8: They have their technically their pick this year and then

1175
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 8: not for a while. But they have the worst of

1176
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 8: their picking, the Pelicans pick, so they kind of could

1177
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 8: take this year, but they don't have a lot of

1178
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 8: like they don't they can't really just stink on purpose

1179
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 8: the next couple of years. They don't have their own

1180
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 8: picks to do it, so they kind of want good play.

1181
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 8: They might want good players still, any honest trade on

1182
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,959
Speaker 8: top of obviously every draft pick and the young player

1183
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 8: they can get, so they might be mine still having Turner,

1184
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 8: he'll help them win some games and be good and

1185
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 8: the future seasons. But honestly, some thought Miles Turger might

1186
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 8: have is thank god he got that trade bonus in

1187
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 8: his contract, because if the Bucks decided to move him

1188
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 8: as well as the honest, he could stand to make

1189
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 8: ten to fifteen million more dollars depending on where he

1190
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 8: goes or how much of it he does or does

1191
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 8: not decide to waive in the move, so he could

1192
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 8: end up being kind of a big winner from this

1193
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 8: and his contract being even higher. But yeah, certainly shocking

1194
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 8: to see how bad that team has been. And I

1195
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 8: get Giannis has been hurt, but even when he plays,

1196
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 8: they lose a lot. So I do wonder how he

1197
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,959
Speaker 8: feels about his decision now. But look, he got paid

1198
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 8: and that contract's guaranteed for four years, So if money

1199
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 8: was his sole goal, I don't think he'll be too

1200
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 8: beat up about it.

1201
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 6: If winning the whole time was his goal.

1202
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 8: Then I think he will beat up about it because

1203
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 8: that team is very bad.

1204
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 6: Already with Gianness.

1205
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: Last night was what was it? I unite at the

1206
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: Pacer game? Is that right?

1207
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 6: Yes? That's correct.

1208
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: I saw the Bison running around right with boomers.

1209
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1210
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: And other than that, did I miss though? I didn't

1211
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: see like usually when it's eye unite, they've got all

1212
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: kinds of dignitaries there and stuff like that. I don't

1213
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: know if I saw that. Did you see it?

1214
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 4: No?

1215
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 8: I don't think that, Eddy, now that you mentioned it,

1216
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 8: i'm thinking about it. I don't think something.

1217
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: Any well, the hat Eddie, they had a hat giveaway.

1218
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: But wasn't that supposedly you had to send something in, right,

1219
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1220
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 3: It's a certain ticket you had to buy to be

1221
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: eligible for it.

1222
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 8: I don't know. Wasn't it the first it was like

1223
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 8: the first certain number of tickets or something, wasn't it?

1224
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 3: I think?

1225
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 4: So?

1226
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just saw that the Bison fellow running around.

1227
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: He's kind of jacked Tyrese Haliburton's put on weight. Supposedly now,

1228
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: somebody sent me that he had said he gained thirty pounds.

1229
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: That seems I'm with Ralph. That seems a little heavy.

1230
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: Tony your thoughts? Does does Halliburton look heavier to you?

1231
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: Cookie'es in ice cream? Cookie's in ice cream? That's what

1232
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: he said, Really.

1233
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, he said on that Mind the Game podcast he

1234
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 8: did with Lebron he said that in game seven he

1235
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 8: weighed one hundred and eighty pounds and right now he's

1236
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 8: two ten, so that would be thirty pounds.

1237
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 6: And like you can see it, like if you.

1238
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 8: I posted a video of that him shooting before games,

1239
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 8: like you.

1240
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 4: Can see it.

1241
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 8: And I'll say this too, this guy's towards the kills

1242
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 8: last year. You can see it with the dad Jackson

1243
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 8: too right for a while, you can't you can't exercise right,

1244
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 8: like you can't do cardio when you tear your chillies.

1245
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 6: It's just gonna happen.

1246
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 8: And I think Calivern joke that he was like drowned

1247
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 8: his sorrows with the wrong foods and things like that too,

1248
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 8: which was funny. So yeah, he's bigger, and I just

1249
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 8: think there's like some merit to adding weight to his game,

1250
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 8: Like I think he mentioned watching the way Peyton Richards

1251
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 8: can kind of throw his body around to create space

1252
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 8: and t show short. But they're also like if you

1253
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 8: gain too much muscle in your arms, like it affects

1254
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 8: your shot and like.

1255
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: How fast are you opinion? I mean, I listen, I'll

1256
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: be honestly. I used to be able to just I

1257
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: was like Jay Edwards. I mean I was silky smooth,

1258
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: and then once I got ripped it just it did

1259
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: change things. I had to get It was more nim

1260
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: hard board mid range. I'm serious.

1261
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 8: So it's tap of the players all the time and

1262
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 8: they have to figure out, you know, how it feels,

1263
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 8: what parts of their body or every other things like that.

1264
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 8: So I don't think it's gonna affect him so much.

1265
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 8: I think he needs to be closer like one to ninety.

1266
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 6: Though.

1267
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: During that interview with Tyres on Mind the Game with

1268
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: Lebron Tony, he revealed that he felt like he could

1269
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: go out there and play, you know today, and then

1270
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: he was doing a three on three and Benny Nick

1271
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 2: mather when somebody was guarding you, and he told Bans like, hey,

1272
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 2: don't don't don't hold up.

1273
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 8: Uh.

1274
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: Last night after the game, I thought, this is so

1275
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: peaked Benedict Matherin. For those that haven't heard it, I'm

1276
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: gonna play it, Tony. I'm gonna let you kind of

1277
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: explain what's going through your mind after you hear this

1278
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: response from Ben.

1279
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: I think it's not easy.

1280
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 9: You know, he just came hav an injury, especially having

1281
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 9: to guard me. You know, it's not the it's not

1282
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 9: the one you want to see right out the injury.

1283
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 9: So I got I got plenty of buckets, man, you know,

1284
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 9: plenty buckets on the way too.

1285
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 8: If you if you told me, like before I asked

1286
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 8: the question to write down or guess how I thought

1287
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 8: Ben Mathern would describe that, I would have got pretty close.

1288
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 6: I think I would have been pretty close.

1289
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 8: That guy loves to score, loves to tell everybody that

1290
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 8: he can score, and well, scoring that's what he does, right.

1291
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 8: He that first half against Atlanta, his first game back

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01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 8: in three weeks, he was on fire and couldn't miss.

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Speaker 8: He had a bunch of cruise threes in the third

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01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 8: quarter last night. He's gonna get buckets, and he's going

1295
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 8: to tell you about it, and he's gonna get buckets.

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01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 6: Some interesting total responses when I was.

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01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,479
Speaker 1: Talking to I listen. I like him. I just feel

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01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: like he is destined to be a twenty twenty five

1299
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: guy for the rest of his career. Oh Oo, am

1300
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: I wrong?

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01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 8: He just stored a billion points in a finals game

1302
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 8: like seven months ago.

1303
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and I like ben Matheren I do,

1304
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: and this is I always say, you are correct. He

1305
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: won them a game in the finals, and Matheren he

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01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: also cost them a game.

1307
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 3: In the finals.

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01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 6: That's also true.

1309
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: And that's the yin and the yang of it, right,

1310
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: And part of that's just a young player. I get it.

1311
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: I think he's like I've said, Tony, the analogy that

1312
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: I've used and I'll use it again. Benedict matheren Is

1313
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: rum I like rum. Rum tastes good. There are several

1314
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: things that I like that have run minute. It's a

1315
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: key ingredient to a lot of things I enjoy. But

1316
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: the Pacers, unfortunately are a Manhattan and Manhattan doesn't require

1317
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: it's a totally different taste. It makes sense, It.

1318
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 6: Does make sense. I like that.

1319
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like, Look, there's big questions about it fit for forever,

1320
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 8: and I think it's kind of a bummer that this

1321
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 8: season has turned not doing it has in that he

1322
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 8: was balling for those two games, but that has just

1323
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 8: been too hurt to like get a lot of time

1324
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 8: on the floor to establish anything new, right, and so

1325
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 8: there's kind of no new information about what he is.

1326
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 8: The only new thing is it's even closer to the

1327
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 8: free agency in his next contract, so he'll be certainly

1328
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 8: somebody to watch in the next week with the deadline

1329
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 8: coming up.

1330
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: Is your confidence level and conclusion here one to ten,

1331
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: ten being the most one being the least that the

1332
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: Pacers will make a notable move at the trade deadline. Oh,

1333
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: define notable a player that we'd regularly discuss or one

1334
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: that has been a consistent contributor.

1335
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 6: Six or seven.

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01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I do believe if there is an offer

1337
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: out there where they can get a miles turn to

1338
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: replacement and mathering as the price tag, I think they

1339
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: would do that, but we shall see.

1340
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Speaker 8: I agree with that assessment.

1341
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 3: Yes, Jake, you should be proud. I didn't do the

1342
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 3: thing because he said six or seven there?

1343
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 6: Oh?

1344
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: Really?

1345
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 6: You know?

1346
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: You know I caught listen to this, Tony. You ever

1347
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,879
Speaker 1: watched back in the day, Tony? Did you ever watch Letterman?

1348
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 8: I have watched Letterman before, but not like a consistent thing.

1349
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: I ever. Hard to believe he's been off the air

1350
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: for like ten years. But I was watching an old

1351
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: clip of Letterman the other day where he was talking

1352
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: about his upcoming birthday This would have been twelve years ago,

1353
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm going to be sixty seven, and

1354
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: Paul Shaeffer kept going sixt' seven sixty seven. That's what

1355
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: we say in the entertainment business, dave six seven. And

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01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: I thought Paul Shaeffer was ten years ahead of the trends, right,

1357
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you know?

1358
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 8: Good for Paul? Why did he say that is just

1359
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 8: the thing he said to be silly and goofy?

1360
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe like the real way that started?

1361
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: Correct and then ten years later. It was the thing

1362
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: Paul Shaffer must have been doing Gangham style, like a

1363
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five you know what I mean, ahead of

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01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: the trends. All right, Tony, we appreciate the time as always.

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys.

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01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: Tony East joining us Job House, Peel and Ford guest

1367
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: line again. Locked on Pacers Forbes. There'll be t hr

1368
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: a number of places that you can see Tony's coverage

1369
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: of the Indiana Pacers. Did you Eddie you're in on

1370
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: the six seven craze? Is that what you're telling me?

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01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: I'm not in on the six seven craze, but I

1372
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 3: just like to bring something to the program.

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01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: But it's over with, right, the six seventh thing that

1374
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: was like like it's dying. Yeah, it lasted like six

1375
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: seven weeks, right, and then it's it's done now right? No,

1376
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm just being serious. Can we start a new trend?

1377
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 3: What's that?

1378
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: How about this? So I'm saying something to my friend

1379
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: and you walk up and you're like, what are you

1380
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: guys talking about? And I say, it's just QR you

1381
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: are you are q ar? You know what that means?

1382
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: What speaking? I'm just like you walk you walk into

1383
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: the workplace and I'm standing there with J and V.

1384
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: You walk up and you go, hey, guys, what's going on?

1385
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: I go, we're just discussing it, talking some things in

1386
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: QR q R.

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01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know where you're calling with this.

1388
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: See it's a new trend. I just thought of it.

1389
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: That's nogging right there, just created it. Okay, A couple

1390
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: of kids in the back seat of the car and

1391
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: the mom's driving and it's like, kids, what what are

1392
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: you guys talking about back there? And they say, we're

1393
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 1: just speaking QR QR.

1394
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 3: That sounds like a made up language.

1395
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: You ever go to, like pig Latin. Do you speak

1396
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 1: the pig Latin?

1397
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 6: No?

1398
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 3: I don't, do you.

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01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm fraid I'm ta ou ta, I'm ta.

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01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like a pig.

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01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: That's pig Latin. I don't know pig la So that

1402
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a pig. I'm not saying it does,

1403
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: but it's pig Latin. But what I just said to

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01:11:54,400 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: you QR QR. Now, see, I'm developing right now a

1405
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: new trend for the kids. I am now a couple

1406
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: of kids talking to each other. Teacher walks in, Oh,

1407
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm Sorry, did I interrupt? I thought you guys are

1408
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing your math homework. And one of

1409
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: them says, missus Smith AT's school. We're just talking QR. QR.

1410
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: Now you'd like to know, wouldn't you. I just made

1411
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: this up and it's brilliant, and I'm going to get

1412
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: your big ten answer on the other side, and I'll

1413
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: also explain to you what I mean by that. Sure, QR.

1414
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 6: What you know?

1415
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 1: It started during COVID primarily, but they a lot of

1416
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: places still use it. When you go to a restaurant

1417
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: and you sit down and they come around and they say, oh,

1418
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: you can use your phone for our menu. You pick

1419
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: up your phone and then there's like a little thing

1420
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: on the table. Use the camera. What is it that

1421
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: you have to scan? Eddie?

1422
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 3: QR code QR.

1423
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: A couple of kids sitting in the back seat of

1424
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: the car. Mom's like, what are you kids talking about

1425
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: back there? Mom? Don't worry about it, just QR speaking

1426
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: in code telling you this will be the next six

1427
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 1: to seven.

1428
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 3: That is like the biggest dad joke you've told.

1429
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: No, it's not at all. Yes, No, this is a

1430
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: new thing, a new trend. I started. No, I don't

1431
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: even have kids, so it can't be a dad.

1432
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 3: Joe Steve f from Avon chimes in on the text line, high.

1433
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 2: School student section still goes crazy if a team gets

1434
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: right to sixty seven on the scoreboard.

1435
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: I used to be one more bucket after that, and

1436
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: then all hell would break.

1437
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 3: I think all hell still breaks loose as long as

1438
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 3: they hit it too.

1439
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: So they get to go. They get to go for

1440
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 1: back to back buckets.

1441
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 3: I guess.

1442
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: So, okay, fair enough. You know, you know what's going

1443
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: to happen now. Kids are going to go crazy if

1444
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: they're somewhere and for some reason they're reciting alphabetical stuff

1445
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: and they get to QR QR I listen, listen you

1446
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, Eddie. No, let me just remind you, okay, okay,

1447
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: shall I remind you that it was on this radio

1448
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: station where I just off the right here you can

1449
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 1: see it. I mean, I've got pretty good hair. Underneath

1450
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: this hair, okay, underneath this hairy turn your head around.

1451
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: A wrinkled that's right, a wrinkled sponge like material. Now

1452
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: it's under protection, don't get me wrong, right, not much.

1453
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: And inside of that is the creation of all of this.

1454
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: It's literally like a creative factory. Okay, you know you

1455
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: see when the way the sausage is made, now the sausage,

1456
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: the links are just churning out. That's what this, this

1457
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: matter that's underneath this dome here is just a creative factory.

1458
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 3: Do I need to do? I need to blame uh

1459
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 3: missus Querry for this. I'm just telling you, and I'm

1460
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: not talking about your life and and so.

1461
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 4: On.

1462
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 1: This radio station is where I just in a moment

1463
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: of spontaneity, came up with why not Indiana?

1464
01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 4: Right?

1465
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: Which which, by the way, way, if I may. Okay,

1466
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: the other day I got I got really bored, obviously shocker,

1467
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: and and so I asked the AI, right, oh boy,

1468
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: I asked them what because I'm I'm basically what I'm

1469
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: doing here is I'm doing background checks on my on

1470
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: my trademark, because that's not an easy thing to do.

1471
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: And so I asked it about what is why not Indiana? Okay?

1472
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: This is what the the the AI says. Why not

1473
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: Indiana is a popular catchphrase and slogan popularized by Indianapolis

1474
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,440
Speaker 1: sports radio host Jake Querry, serving as an enthusiastic, optimistic

1475
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: rallying cry expressing belief in Indiana teams, athletes of the

1476
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: state itself achieving success, often in the face of skepticism

1477
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: or long odds. After major wins or milestones Indiana football, notably,

1478
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: fans will echo why not Indiana to celebrate underdog triumphs

1479
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: or question of why greatness can't happen here?

1480
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 3: Now, what did you search to get that?

1481
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: I had the grock ai, I just said, what is

1482
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: why not Indiana?

1483
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 6: Oh?

1484
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 3: Okay?

1485
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: Now, so what I'm saying is you laugh. But the

1486
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: next craze is going to be the QR. Now, kids

1487
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 1: are going to say it.

1488
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 6: No.

1489
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: Now, the one challenge here is this, and this is

1490
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: admittedly a hurdle we're gonna have to overcome.

1491
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 3: We helped get nim hell onto the scene.

1492
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to echo what Caitlin Cooper is now trying

1493
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: to coin U furf around and find out.

1494
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 3: I'm with her on that we need to get that going.

1495
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: Okay, and again when you say that and people are like, so,

1496
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 1: if you said furf around and find out right, someone's

1497
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: then going to say to you what does that mean?

1498
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: And you know what you say back, Well, it's it's

1499
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: part of the Pacers QR.

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Speaker 3: Now, So your question earlier, Jake, was which college.

1501
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: Here's my question from earlier. You have the opportunity. Now,

1502
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: what we saw from Indiana in the college ball season

1503
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: was an athletic program and a university taking advantage of

1504
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: kind of the new era of college football. They they

1505
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: put in the potpourrie with the ingredient of brilliant coach

1506
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: players that buy in. And I think there's also a

1507
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: very underrated aspect of the JMU players coming over. I

1508
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 1: don't know that Kurt Signetti does what he does without

1509
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: having Elijah Surratt and di'angelo Ponds and Aidan Fisher and

1510
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: the guys from JMU. Not saying because and those guys

1511
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: are great players. That goes without saying, but also for

1512
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: those players to be able to go into that locker

1513
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 1: room and kind of have their coaches back for guys

1514
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: to buy in. Signette's not going to need now players

1515
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: to have his back on that because the proofs in

1516
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 1: the pudding. They googled him, right, they know he wins.

1517
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: But that was very important in the beginning. But all

1518
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: of the ingredients that went into it, those aspects, the

1519
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: monetary aspects, the NIL, the transfer portal, it all came

1520
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: together to create this once in a lifetime dessert out

1521
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: of the oven, and we'll see whether or not they're

1522
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: able to continue that and replicate it. What school based

1523
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: on that? So what I'm saying is Indiana approved this

1524
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: can be done, and Indiana kind of put the blueprint

1525
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: out on how it can be done. Knowing the blueprint

1526
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: and executing it are two different things. But when you

1527
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: factor all things in campus money, backing Forbes, companies nearby

1528
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: that might be invested, all avenues of it. Of all

1529
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: the schools in the Big Ten, if you got to

1530
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: pick one of them starting today, and every year that

1531
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: they do not make the Big Ten Championship game, you

1532
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: win one million dollars. You get to pick one school,

1533
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: and every year that they don't make the Big Ten

1534
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: title game, the next day direct deposit in your account

1535
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: a million bucks. What school of the eighteen and the

1536
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: Big Ten conference would you pick because you are most

1537
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: confident it would net you long term the most money

1538
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: because they have the least chance to get themselves to

1539
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: the position that Indiana did in terms of turnaround.

1540
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 3: Obviously, there's no one correct answer. I think there's a

1541
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 3: handful of teams that could be in this discussion, like.

1542
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 2: So immediately the teams that came to mind were like

1543
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: Northwestern Maryland Rutgers, because when you just look at the

1544
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 2: history of college football, Indiana going into this year was

1545
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 2: the all time mosing its program in college football history, right,

1546
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 2: that title is now with the Wildcats of Northwestern, and

1547
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: then number three is Rutgers. Now I wanted to initially

1548
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: say Rutgers, but the thought here that I had was this,

1549
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 2: it's coming out with them the last week or so

1550
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: actually days that Rutgers since joining the Big Ten in

1551
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, has lost nearly five hundred and seventeen million dollars.

1552
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: How that had no idea since joining the Big Ten,

1553
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: their athletic deficit is five hundred.

1554
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,480
Speaker 3: And seventeen million dollars.

1555
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: And so if I'm thinking out loud, here, would there

1556
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 2: be a chance because they are losing so much money

1557
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 2: that they would have to shut down the football program,

1558
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 2: and so Rutgers would not study in the Big Ten

1559
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: long enough for me to net enough money.

1560
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: Here, Okay, they have to be in the cop yeah, exactly,

1561
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: because you're out. Once they're out of the conference, you're out.

1562
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 2: Exactly. That's where I was going there. So I will

1563
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: stick with my second and that would be the Maryland Terrapins.

1564
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, Okay, I.

1565
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 2: Thought about Purdue as well, but I thought there could

1566
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 2: be motivation from the boiler Makers athletic department with the

1567
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 2: success of Indiana to try to get things right with

1568
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 2: the boiler Makers, to get them on the right track.

1569
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: And I feel like they could eventually get it right

1570
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 2: and have a year or two. I mean, they were

1571
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 2: just in the Big Ten Championship not too long ago anyway,

1572
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: so they've had the success already.

1573
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: The Big Ten. It is estimated that each Big Ten

1574
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: school for their membership gets seventy five million dollars annually.

1575
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: And that was that number I believe was before the

1576
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: seven billion that's with a B seven billion dollar television

1577
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: contract was factored in completely. So for Rutgers to not

1578
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: make money would seemingly put them in like a gross

1579
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: negligence financial area. Right, Rutgers is a really good call.

1580
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: The school that I would go with, Northwestern is an

1581
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: easy go to because they've been so bad in so

1582
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: many sports for so long. But Northwestern's gotten wealthy alumni

1583
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: and they have in the Chicago area. They just built

1584
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: a new stadium. They're redoing their facilities. You know, I

1585
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: was in college during the the out of Nowhere. I

1586
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: think it was Gary Barnett was the coach turnaround when

1587
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: Northwestern went to the Rose Bowl and played against Keishawn

1588
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: Johnson's team, and that team, Lee Getsen Daaner was their

1589
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: star player. But they turned it around like that. Pat

1590
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald was on that team. They were really good. And

1591
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: so Northwestern's one that I think is actually kind of

1592
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 1: a sneaky dark horse to put themselves back into position

1593
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 1: because they have I would assume the backing to immediately

1594
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: go into nil and get players. And I do think

1595
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: that players, especially with new facilities and being on the

1596
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,440
Speaker 1: shore in Chicago and everything else. I think that Northwestern

1597
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: could could turn it around if they wanted to. Every school,

1598
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: as we saw with Indiana, has that potential to turn

1599
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: it around. Every school has the ability to do so.

1600
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 1: But the one that I keep going back to is Minnesota.

1601
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why I say that, but I just

1602
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like Minnesota has ever had. You know,

1603
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: most schools, at some point you become aware of a

1604
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: big backer or a bigger lum or something that you

1605
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: just know is a pillar or a behind the scenes.

1606
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, Ohio, Oklahoma State with T Boon T Boone

1607
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: Pickens I think was his name. Everybody knew that guy

1608
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 1: was giving a bunch of money to Oklahoma State athletics

1609
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden overnight they they were always

1610
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: a decent football program, but they became really good, right Yeah,

1611
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 1: And you know we've talked about it before. Texas Tech

1612
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: with the oil money. Right now, you see it. It's

1613
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: the kid from land Man. I think he's the one.

1614
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: They've got the new Wells going and he's he's You

1615
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: ever watch the land Man, right?

1616
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 8: I have not?

1617
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the kid wears a Texas Tech out every day.

1618
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you all have to stick with, uh, George, what's that?

1619
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 3: You don't have to stick with talking to Jeff Georgia

1620
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 3: two in the.

1621
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,560
Speaker 1: Morning about That's right, Jeff George likes likes Laman. I

1622
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: forgot about that. But Minnesota to me is just the

1623
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 1: one that I guess if they made the concerted effort

1624
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: like anybody we have seen, it can be done, but

1625
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: it just never has really felt like other than the

1626
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: one time that Clem Haskins put it together for him

1627
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: and then you found out that you know, speaking of nil,

1628
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, and Clem's never been heard from.

1629
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 2: Sex I know have had some football history, but like,

1630
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 2: Michigan State is another one that could be in this category, Dick,

1631
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 2: So like they're good enough to be in the middle

1632
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 2: every year.

1633
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: I think Michigan State. Michigan State's solid, right, Hey, Jake

1634
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: Darnell Autry was an awesome back for Northwestern. Forgot about him? Yes,

1635
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean Michigan State. I disagree. I think Michigan State's

1636
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: right on the cusp. Now they Michigan State did the

1637
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: anti Indiana. Michigan State went from being really good to

1638
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: like irrelevant overnight, and it's like, what in the world

1639
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 1: just happened? Remember they had that one coach. They gave

1640
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: him a bunch of money and then he started like

1641
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 1: hitting up secretaries on tender or something and they got fired.

1642
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 6: Is that what it was?

1643
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was.

1644
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 2: Matt chimes in on the text line, good call, Jake,

1645
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 2: Minnesota is the technical definition of a five hundred team,

1646
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 2: never good, never bad college pregatory.

1647
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: That is exactly correct. That is exactly correct. Minnesota is

1648
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: like I've always felt this way as well. If you

1649
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: were to survey every school in the Big Ten and

1650
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: survey their fan base and say to them, Okay, if

1651
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 1: your school cannot win the conference this year, give me

1652
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: the Big Ten school that if they win it. You

1653
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: would say, it's fine. They're the most harmless. I got

1654
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: no problem with them. You kind of take Northwestern off

1655
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,759
Speaker 1: the board there because they have won so few things

1656
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: to your point, other than that weird football season I

1657
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: talked about, they have won so few things that Northwestern

1658
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: is kind of the easy answer there. But if you

1659
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: were to take Northwestern out of the equation, I think

1660
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,799
Speaker 1: the school that would get the vote from the highest

1661
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: number of other fan bases within the Big Ten of

1662
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: the innocuous opponent would be Minnesota. There's nobody that hates Minnesota, right,

1663
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: They're just kind of there. That Gophers kind of cute.

1664
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't like the colors, right, you don't like that.

1665
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know what color that is. That a

1666
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: maroon and gold. It just doesn't work. But the Gopher

1667
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: fella is kind of a cute guy, right, nobody. I mean,

1668
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: they tear up your yard. Butther than that, I mean,

1669
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: what do you got against Gophers? I have a question

1670
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: for you, Yes, sir, what do these two things have

1671
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: in common that and.

1672
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 4: Those are both So.

1673
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,879
Speaker 1: That first sounder was created when we were dropping mayonnaise

1674
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: into coffee, and that's the brain dropping, right. The second

1675
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: is the query bad analogy. Yes, you know what they

1676
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: have in common other than being my brain droppings at

1677
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: three forty eight in the morning typically lead to a

1678
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: bad analogy.

1679
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 10: That's very common. But that's not where I was going with. Okay,

1680
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 10: they're both QR. See see, you don't want to admit it.

1681
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 10: You don't admit it. Eddie doesn't want to admit it,

1682
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 10: but he's on it. You're on the QR train. You know,

1683
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,560
Speaker 10: they got to listen. They got the n Q trainor

1684
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 10: QR train. Get on board, buddy, get on board.

1685
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 3: Take a babe.

1686
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: We'll take off before the QR train. Oh yes, take off.

1687
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: You're a minute late, buddy. You're right. It already's taken off.

1688
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: The QR train left the station.

1689
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 6: Q R.

1690
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: You don't want to admit it, but you know, deep

1691
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 1: down you're like, that's pretty solid. You know, the hippie trail,

1692
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: full head, full of zombie right right where he's talking

1693
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 1: about right now, Colin, Hey, right. What he says is

1694
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 1: he's traveling in a fried out Combay, which is a

1695
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: basically a smoked out spaculi van. Okay, do you know

1696
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: that in this song the fellows at men at work.

1697
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: If they wanted to, you know, get more effectively to

1698
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: where they're going, they could have ridden the Queensland Rail

1699
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: Travel Line the train down Under more commonly known as

1700
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: the QR train. By the way, just say huh, you're ridiculous. No,

1701
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: it's a QR train and get on board. No QR

1702
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: telling you that's what all the kids you're talking now

1703
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: the six seven is so that's so old man, that's

1704
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: so played out, so played out QR train.

1705
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 2: You get on board, somebody pulls up and asks me, hey,

1706
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: what what what does q R I mean? I'm going

1707
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: to say, well, that's just like being something that I'm

1708
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: not going to say on the radio.

1709
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: Listen they you can say that, or you can say, oh,

1710
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: you don't know. And if they say no, I don't,

1711
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: you say QR just means you're speaking in code and

1712
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: they're going to say and you know what they're going

1713
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: to say. I feel like I'm a member of the club.

1714
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Quite ridiculous. I would hope they would say they're a

1715
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: member of the company that too.

1716
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,719
Speaker 1: But the company, you know, when you remember the club,

1717
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 1: there's an exclusivity to it, right, This company's for everybody,

1718
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: quarrying company. We know that. But the QR QR that

1719
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 1: that is. Kids will love it. I mean, and if

1720
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: there's one thing I know on this program, it's you know,

1721
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: it's what the kids love. Get to know your listener.

1722
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:19,560
Speaker 1: Kids love it.

1723
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 3: They do love that.

1724
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: Kids like concerts, which we have tickets to give away,

1725
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: right we do.

1726
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 3: We still have a pair of tickets to go see Mellencamp.

1727
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: I did not. I did realize because someone called in

1728
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: with this, and there may be more than one, because

1729
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 1: I would imagine over the years there have been several

1730
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: videos shot of John Mellencamp performing concerts in the state

1731
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: of Indiana or Indianapolis. But last night couldn't sleep, really yeah,

1732
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 1: you terrible. Not a sleep. So I went down a

1733
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: rabbit hole on the YouTube and was watching music videos

1734
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 1: and one popped up, and I'm like, I have always

1735
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: liked that song. So I locked it in and watched

1736
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: and it was the video for it was a Mellencamp video,

1737
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 1: and I had forgotten. I had totally forgotten that there

1738
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: was a music video filmed at Market Square Arena for

1739
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: Mellencamp and the music video that was filmed at Market

1740
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 1: Square Arena. I believe it said December eleventh, nineteen eighty seven.

1741
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 3: Was that sending Denise who called in, who revealed that

1742
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 3: she was she.

1743
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: Was at a Motley Crue concert.

1744
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 3: Okay, we were talking about what's that music video?

1745
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: I think Wildside was filmed at Market Square Arena, but

1746
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: there was a Mellencamp video as well that was filmed

1747
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 1: at Market Squarena. And if I recall correctly, people told

1748
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: me it was after the concert, so they had said,

1749
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, hey, what they knew going into the concert?

1750
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 1: Or at some point they had announced that once the

1751
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: show was done, they were going to film a music video,

1752
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: and I think they They did the song twice and

1753
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: it was the second go round of the song was

1754
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: the one that they kept for the video. My buddy

1755
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 1: Paul Hurley, Paul the mailman, PAULI and Fletcher Place was there.

1756
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: He knows which song it was. Should we do that

1757
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: as a trivia question? Or is that too easy for

1758
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: people to google?

1759
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 3: Too easy to google? And now it's given them time?

1760
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: You think it is too easy to google?

1761
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 3: Well, too easy to google and we were giving them

1762
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 3: too much time. Now toy, but is it?

1763
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: But it doesn't The time doesn't matter if it's not

1764
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: something that can be googled. What I'm saying is if

1765
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: you google, it doesn't come up, or it could be

1766
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: that we're just speaking qRT. Everybody here, check it out?

1767
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 3: Was that? Ms A?

1768
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Thank check it out as correct?

1769
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 3: Yes see, look look see that was what a minute

1770
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 3: later with somebody.

1771
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: Somebody chimed in. They didn't google it, they just knew

1772
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: it off the top of their head. That's worthy of tickets.

1773
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: So you just ruined the fun for it.

1774
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 3: Now, look at that. There's three more. Check it out.

1775
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 3: Check it out, check it out out.

1776
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: I am checking it out. You know what you should

1777
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 1: check out? QR. No, kids love that?

1778
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 6: Nope?

1779
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 1: What are you kids doing back there? What are you

1780
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 1: talking about anyway? Don't worry about it, mom, just QR QR.

1781
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: That's the new six seven.

1782
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

1783
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. We're doing a midday show. So people

1784
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: aren't necessarily driving around with the kids in the car

1785
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 1: right now, But if they were, that is something that

1786
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: would take ouf like a house a fire whip, and

1787
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: before you know it, you're going to be hearing it

1788
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 1: on the streets. It's catchy, is it not? The QR code?

1789
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 4: No?

1790
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: Okay, And if you like, if you'd like, I could

1791
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: get you a T shirt that just has simply on

1792
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 1: a QR code. What's what's your shirt there? QR? What

1793
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: does that mean part of the code?

1794
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 3: Does that code take you to the why not Indiana?

1795
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 1: There is a win at Indiana dot com? Yes, that

1796
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: is correct?

1797
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:50,799
Speaker 3: Is that yours?

1798
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 4: No?

1799
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 1: Actually a listener has it it? Well? Yes, because it

1800
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 1: goes to the show. If you want to listen to

1801
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: the show, you can go to win not Indiana dot

1802
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: com and it takes to the YouTube blank merch coming right.

1803
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 1: If none of that makes sense to you, folks, it's

1804
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: because Eddie and I are speaking in QR QR the

1805
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: New sixty seven. No, it's not recap last night field

1806
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: House next? Are you? Are you sending out smoke signals?

1807
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 1: Is that what we're doing here?

1808
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:19,599
Speaker 3: Haha?

1809
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I could be.

1810
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're picking up Jake.

1811
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm listen. You've been You've been around me long enough.

1812
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Now see that with you? And this is again the

1813
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: way that this brain works. I'm picking up what you're dropping.

1814
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 1: As the kids say, but that again, that's so, that's

1815
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: like so twenty eighteen, right, just like the six seven

1816
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: is so three months ago.

1817
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 3: Picking out what I'm putting down, Yeah, that too.

1818
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, picking up what you're putting out. But what I'm

1819
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: saying is, Okay, the new fresh hip is to speaking

1820
01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: QR Q are okay listen you you rolling your eyes. Yes,

1821
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna somebody's gonna say it to you in the

1822
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: next week. You're gonna come up to me and you're

1823
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna say, I don't know that you started. But and

1824
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 1: again I realize on this program, this is all I know,

1825
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 1: this is all I know. We have thirty nine female listeners. Okay,

1826
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: thirty eight it might be thirty eight. Yeah, but we're

1827
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 1: trying to And they said this to me the other day.

1828
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: We had a meeting, we had a show meeting, and

1829
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: they told me that the two things there. Huh, I

1830
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 1: wasn't there, No, I know, most of the meeting was

1831
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: spoken in QR and and in the meeting they said

1832
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: to me, we need to get more hip, we need

1833
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: to we need to do what we can to get

1834
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 1: more hips. Speak a little more of an aculate for

1835
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 1: the younger.

1836
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 2: Why would they not want me in that meeting. If

1837
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 2: they're wanting to get more hipping, you get closer to

1838
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 2: the younger.

1839
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 6: Dim they know.

1840
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean they looked at me and they said, now, Jake,

1841
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,560
Speaker 1: you oozed because a lot of people tell me this.

1842
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: A lot of people tell me this. They say two things.

1843
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 1: You use hip and sexiness. Right, I mean, I'm no,

1844
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 1: it's it's true, it really is. It's true.

1845
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 3: I can't take you serious.

1846
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 1: Do you remember have you seen the Forrest Gump? You've

1847
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 1: seen Forrest Gump? Right, yes, Okay, when Forrest is when

1848
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 1: he's dancing in the room and the guy from Mississippi

1849
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 1: that was passing by and renting the room from Forest

1850
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: and his mom, and he says, show what that move again?

1851
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 9: You do?

1852
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: And that's and then of course you realize, oh, what

1853
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: do you know? That was Elvis and he was learning

1854
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: from Elvis back then, moving the hips right, and then

1855
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 1: he had the hair. Kind of sexy hip sexiness. That's

1856
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 1: what they want more of on this program. And they said,

1857
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 1: if you can just go out and just start speaking

1858
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: fresh er lingo for the kids, because we have thirty

1859
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: nine female listeners, might be thirty eight, and we need

1860
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 1: more kids. And so I said, so you want me

1861
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 1: to you know, talking more QR and they said absolutely QR.

1862
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, I'll do it. It's the new

1863
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: six seven, six seventy. So that wasn't even your thing

1864
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 1: that you just came up with because they told me.

1865
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: You said they told you to speak QR.

1866
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 4: No.

1867
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 1: No, they said, we need you to speak more hip

1868
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: and I said, you mean QR q R. You gotta

1869
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 1: do that. That The key here to this is to

1870
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 1: recite it afterwards, just like the kids do with the six.

1871
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 1: I just need someone to help me, please, Just for example,

1872
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: I'm looking out in our parking lot right now, Todd Myers,

1873
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 1: our executive producer, Dan from.

1874
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 3: Ohio, please stop the QR talk. Drop it. It's not good.

1875
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 1: No, it is Dan Ohio. Are we listening to Ohio now?

1876
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna really really okay? I mean I listen.

1877
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: I like Ohio just fine. But but are we really

1878
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 1: pretending that that's the beacon of hip? I mean, Ohio

1879
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: is still trying to pick me. Huh.

1880
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 3: Have you seen camb Zuber. He's pretty hip?

1881
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 6: He is.

1882
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: He and I just had a conversation the other day

1883
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: completely in QR. I'm looking out right now, and I'm

1884
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:48,600
Speaker 1: watching Our executive producer Todd Meyer just got in his

1885
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 1: car in the parking lot driving off and he is

1886
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: saying to himself, you know, I didn't know today was today.

1887
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: I was going to be more hip. But listening to this,

1888
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm dialed in. That's exactly what's happening. Pay shows last

1889
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: night at the field House looked like the pacers of

1890
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 1: a year ago. To an extent, I mentioned earlier today,

1891
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: an odd thing happened when I left the house. Number

1892
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: one that I left the house, and number two, it

1893
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 1: is odd that when you look at your phone right

1894
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 1: now and it says it's I don't even know I'm

1895
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:26,759
Speaker 1: going to say that. It says it's nine degrees outside.

1896
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at my phone right now. We're gonna see.

1897
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say nine degrees. Okay, you're not even close.

1898
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: Nineteen okay, hey wave and again nineteen but feels like

1899
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: negative five. That means it's negative five. But either way,

1900
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 1: when you go out right now, nineteen is really cold, right,

1901
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 1: you're really cold. But when you walk out right now,

1902
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: you think to yourself, any bad because you have conditioned

1903
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 1: yourself to be aware of the shock of the cold,

1904
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: because we've had it for a few days now and

1905
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: you just know it's how it's going to be, and

1906
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 1: your brain has now conditioned you for it. And if

1907
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: I had told you a week before the finals began

1908
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 1: last year that I'm looking into a crystal ball and

1909
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking at January of twenty twenty six, and I

1910
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 1: know two things of certainty. Number one, Jake Querry is

1911
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,679
Speaker 1: going to help Eddie Garrison become more young and hip,

1912
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: and number two, the Pacers are going to be sitting

1913
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 1: on eleven wins heading into the last week of January.

1914
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: You would have said to me, only one of those

1915
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 1: two sounds plausible, because you would know that I speak

1916
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 1: in the QR q R and so that part you'd

1917
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I get it. But the second part,

1918
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 1: again the rest of your show, there's no way, there's

1919
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: no way that they're going to be sitting on that number.

1920
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 1: It is but a shock to the system. But of

1921
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 1: course the injury has a lot to do with it,

1922
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: and then the injuries beyond Halliburton Topping, Nie Smith, Nimhard, etc. However,

1923
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 1: just like when you get past the initial shock of

1924
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 1: the cold and eventually without even realizing it you realize

1925
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: that you subtly have without realizing when it was happening.

1926
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: You have the epiphany that you've become accustomed to or

1927
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 1: used to it, where you're like, yeah, I didn't even

1928
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: think about how cold it was when I stepped outside.

1929
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: The same is kind of true of how bad the

1930
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Speaker 1: Pacers have been. The shock of that is gone now

1931
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Speaker 1: and it's just seemingly accepted, understandably so by people because

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Speaker 1: of the fact that there is plausible explanation as to

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Speaker 1: why they've had a bad year. And last night, when

1934
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Speaker 1: I was at the game, and I mentioned this earlier

1935
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Speaker 1: as well, I went to the game last night and Ryan,

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Speaker 1: who is the rep for surf Side, went with me

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Speaker 1: to the game, and we have known each other professionally

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Speaker 1: but not personally per se And I do want to

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Speaker 1: let people know. And I'm being serious here, all of

1940
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Speaker 1: the kidding and the infantile behavior aside, I'm being serious

1941
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Speaker 1: when I say the one thing that I hope more

1942
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Speaker 1: than anything else that people understand when they listen to

1943
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Speaker 1: this radio show and this radio station is that when

1944
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Speaker 1: you hear us talking about a company that we're advertising

1945
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Speaker 1: for or partnered with or whatever it may be, that

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Speaker 1: we believe in that product, because if you listen to

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Speaker 1: if you are kind enough to give us your time

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Speaker 1: to listen to the radio, we want you to know

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Speaker 1: that we reciprocate that trust in us by giving you

1950
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Speaker 1: the names of companies that we want to make sure

1951
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Speaker 1: that you're getting a good product, a good you know,

1952
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Speaker 1: somebody you can believe in. Surfside. I looked into it

1953
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: when we began the partnership, read about it, loved their story.

1954
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Speaker 1: They started in Philadelphia. It was just a group of

1955
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 1: guys that got together and thought that there was an

1956
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Speaker 1: opening in the market, and they came up with an

1957
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: idea kind of like QR QR, and they saw an

1958
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 1: opportunity and so they Eddie has left the building at

1959
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 1: any rate. Ryan and I have worked professionally but never

1960
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Speaker 1: gotten together personally, and so I invited him to the

1961
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Speaker 1: game last night and we had a great time. He's

1962
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Speaker 1: a guy who grew up in Central Indiana. His dad's

1963
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Speaker 1: an educator. He's got you know, kids in college here locally,

1964
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Speaker 1: and just a sports fan and a fan of all

1965
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Speaker 1: the teams locally. And we had a fund of the

1966
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Speaker 1: game last night. But it was such a good feeling

1967
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Speaker 1: to know that I love Surfside as a product, but

1968
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: also to know that that's a company that just has

1969
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Speaker 1: good people, and that when we're talking about products, we're

1970
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Speaker 1: talking about good people. And I enjoyed that. And so

1971
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 1: we're watching the game together. Ryan and I are sitting

1972
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: there and we're watching the game, and it's late in

1973
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: the game and the Pacers down and then all of

1974
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 1: a sudden they find themselves back in the mix late

1975
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 1: in the game, and the Bulls allow Indiana to make

1976
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: a couple of shots down the stretch, and it was

1977
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 1: vintage form, and nim Hard hits and nim Hart has

1978
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 1: become exceptional, the best in the league, perhaps at that

1979
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 1: mid range step back, pull up jumper, and Siakam hits

1980
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Speaker 1: a big shot down the stretch on the low block,

1981
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 1: and you know, all of those things, and it was

1982
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Speaker 1: vintage form except for that. Haliburton obviously was not the

1983
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,719
Speaker 1: guy that you're going too late. But the crowd's getting

1984
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: up and they're chanting defense and everything's going like you know,

1985
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 1: and you're thinking to yourself, this is last year all

1986
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 1: over again, and you're now accustomed to the frigid temperature

1987
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 1: of the way the season is going because we've had

1988
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks to get used to it, and

1989
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 1: so now you expect it and you're accustomed to it,

1990
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: and you're used to it, and the shot to the

1991
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: system is gone. And those moments happen also that, just

1992
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: like when the sun pops out on a five degree day,

1993
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 1: that make you realize that there is still a semblance

1994
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 1: of what it is that you enjoy. And as I

1995
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 1: was thinking about it and watching it and soaking all

1996
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 1: of that in last night, and yes, I'm not trying

1997
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Speaker 1: to over romanticize or speak hyperbole about a win in

1998
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Speaker 1: January over a Bulls team that puts you into position

1999
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 1: of being tied with four others for the fewest number

2000
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 1: of wins on the season. Great congrats, But if you

2001
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 1: look at what happened in Oklahoma City and you see

2002
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 1: the emergence of Nimhard, who already had a very good

2003
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 1: mid range game, but his involvement of others with that,

2004
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 1: and Siakam's professionalism of playing night in and night out

2005
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: after coming here and having been on the championship teams

2006
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: and being really close to being on one here, and

2007
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 1: Furfey's development late in the game making defensive plays that

2008
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 1: allowed Nie Smith to help him out and that side

2009
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: of things and all of the things that come with that.

2010
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Speaker 1: And then you think about Oklahoma City and I thought

2011
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:16,879
Speaker 1: to myself that game in Oklahoma City was the Pacers

2012
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 1: sending the message. And I realized that Oklahoma City was

2013
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 1: not at full throttle as well, But the Pacers were

2014
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 1: sending notice to the rest of the league. Yes, our

2015
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 1: year sucks, and yes our star is not here, and

2016
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 1: yes we have won at that point ten games or

2017
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 1: whatever it was. But don't write us off because we

2018
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 1: are still here, unlike Eddie, who's left and James is

2019
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Speaker 1: now sitting in the producer chair. James, are you aware

2020
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Speaker 1: of why Eddie has decided to boycott the program?

2021
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Speaker 4: I am not.

2022
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 1: No, some sort of a labor strike. Oh really? Now

2023
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: you're a hip guy, right, I like the things? Yet

2024
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 1: you are you got a ponytail, a the man bun

2025
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 1: right as the kids call it. You got the beard.

2026
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of look like one of the

2027
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 1: villains from the Superman movies. You've probably been told that before, right.

2028
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 11: I've been told I look like a Silent Bob from

2029
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Speaker 11: Jay and Silent Bobby.

2030
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Speaker 1: And you know I mean, and I've parked near you before.

2031
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 1: In this parking lot, we all parked near each other.

2032
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: I've parked near you before. You got hip stickers on

2033
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 1: the car, that kind of thing, right, Okay, Eddie and

2034
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 1: I understand Eddie's positioning here.

2035
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 6: I do.

2036
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: I empathize with Eddie and I feel for him. But

2037
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: Eddie as somebody is like the two of us, not

2038
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,600
Speaker 1: very hip, right, I agree? Yeah? And so I was

2039
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 1: just talking about you've heard James, the craze that the

2040
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 1: kids are using of the six seven right, I have

2041
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 1: played out right, it's hit its expiration date.

2042
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 11: I can't say I ever understood it to begin with.

2043
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the expiration date on six seven was six six, right,

2044
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 1: we're past that, Okay. So I said, I've decided that

2045
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 1: I'm going to come up with we had a meeting

2046
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: the other day that we need to make the show

2047
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: more hip, and so I decided that the new hip

2048
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 1: thing for the kids is if you are talking to

2049
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 1: one of your buddies, you're talking to you a coworker,

2050
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,600
Speaker 1: You're having a conversation that's private, like the one that

2051
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 1: you and I are having right now, and we're pretending

2052
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 1: Eddie can't hear, even though we know he's probably still

2053
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: listening to the show. What we're doing. We're talking in

2054
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 1: QR QR. QR yes now QR. Now you ask yourself, James,

2055
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: and you're saying yourself, and I can appreciate this about you.

2056
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 1: You're saying to yourself. You know, I work with JMB

2057
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 1: who's a radio giant, but it's nice to be with

2058
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: Jake for this little interim fill in basis because I

2059
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: have access to this sort of creativity, not that John

2060
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: doesn't have that, but QR. I could tell you were

2061
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 1: intrigued right away. I can see it on a look

2062
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 1: in your face. Q are what does it mean? Thank

2063
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 1: you for asking? When you go to a restaurant and

2064
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 1: they don't have an actual printout menu, they have a

2065
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 1: thing there and you use your phone and they say

2066
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: our menu is available via your phone. Now, that is

2067
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:48,719
Speaker 1: called what a QR code correct. So when we're speaking

2068
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 1: in a vernacular that we'd rather other people not know

2069
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: what it is of which we're talking and they come

2070
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 1: up and they say, hey, what are you guys talking about?

2071
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:58,560
Speaker 1: You say, don't worry about it, step off, QR QR.

2072
01:46:59,000 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: I got you.

2073
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 11: So is this that's why Edie decided to boycott this.

2074
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:03,480
Speaker 11: He did not like this analogy.

2075
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: He wasn't on board with it. I think, truthfully, if

2076
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 1: you want to know the truth, I think a little

2077
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 1: slow to process than meaning and felt a little left out,

2078
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 1: which is kind of the point of the QR QR. So,

2079
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,639
Speaker 1: because I have developed and created a new hip phrase

2080
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 1: that's going to be over and you're gonna hear people

2081
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 1: saying it. I mean, just brace yourself. You're gonna hear

2082
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: people saying it. And Eddie didn't like it, and so

2083
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: he got up and boycotted. And that leads you here.

2084
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,719
Speaker 1: Now that said, aren't you impressed with my LINGO?

2085
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 8: I like it.

2086
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 11: Yes, I can hear Eddie protesting, but I do like it.

2087
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 1: James h SAIDO, welcome to the company. We're happy to

2088
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: have you. Well, thank you. You're gonna have to set

2089
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: the arm a little earlier now to start getting in

2090
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: here at noon, but yes, we're happy to have you. Anyway.

2091
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 1: So last night, with the Pacer game, what I'm getting

2092
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 1: at the I began to wonder. I'm not saying the

2093
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 1: Pacers are tanking, it would be irresponsible of me to

2094
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:05,839
Speaker 1: say that. But when the Pacers first made their change,

2095
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 1: made their move, traded Sabonus got Haliburton here. They saw

2096
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 1: something in nim Hart as well. And I always go

2097
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 1: back to when the Pacers basically said to the general public, listen,

2098
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 1: we're not going to be very good and this is

2099
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 1: going to be a restoration process and we need you

2100
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 1: to be patient. And they said to those of us

2101
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 1: in the media, we asked that you let our fans

2102
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 1: know that we're going to need some time and some patience.

2103
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 1: And it paid off. They got two quarters away from

2104
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,719
Speaker 1: an NBA title. It paid off. They made the right moves.

2105
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 1: And so I don't think they're tanking. I don't think

2106
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: they're going into games. Matter of fact, it would be

2107
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 1: irresponsible to even assume that they would go into a

2108
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 1: game and say, what do we need to do today

2109
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: to lose this game? No, I don't think that's happening.

2110
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 1: Do I think that's happened with teams in the past, Yes,

2111
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's happening. But are there times

2112
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 1: where the Pacers have said to themselves this year, hey,

2113
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 1: this is our gap year. This is the year where

2114
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,640
Speaker 1: we are just figuring things out and we're going to

2115
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 1: try some different things. So are there games or moments

2116
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: in this season where the Pacers look at a particular

2117
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 1: situation and prioritize learning process over definitively winning a game.

2118
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: I think that's possible. They look at a game where

2119
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: they have a sixteen point lead or whatever it may be,

2120
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:41,680
Speaker 1: and they say, Okay, we've always been curious, how well

2121
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:45,799
Speaker 1: can Johnny Furfey play on the floor with Jeris Walker

2122
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 1: as opposed to replacing Jeris Walker or vice versa. How

2123
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 1: well can Ben Shephard play on the floor running a

2124
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 1: little bit of point? If Aaron Nismith is the off

2125
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:01,600
Speaker 1: ball guard, whatever it may be, different things, Now's the

2126
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: time to figure those things out. Now's the time to

2127
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 1: learn those things. And so that is not always that

2128
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 1: learning process, that inventory that has not always manifested itself

2129
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: into wins for the Pacers. But when they went into

2130
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, was there a symbolism? There was there a

2131
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,640
Speaker 1: we need to let the rest of the league know

2132
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: we haven't totally gone away and be on watch, because yes,

2133
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 1: we lost Miles Turner and that is a significant loss

2134
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,560
Speaker 1: to the way and the style that we play. And

2135
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 1: yes we did not have obitapins so far this year,

2136
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 1: and that's a significant loss to the depth of the

2137
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 1: way we play in our rotation. And yes, Aaron nee

2138
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 1: Smith and Andrew and Imhart have missed significant time this year.

2139
01:50:57,880 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 1: So to TJ McConnell that we've got to start kind

2140
01:50:59,960 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 1: of putting you know, TJ McConnell now is kind of

2141
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: like a lease car. Yeah, you gotta be careful how

2142
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:06,600
Speaker 1: many miles you're putting on it per year because you

2143
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 1: don't want later penalty. And so they know that. But

2144
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: I think it's really hard to not get caught up

2145
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 1: in and intrigued by and excited for the possibility of

2146
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 1: getting an athletic big that can facilitate transition and then

2147
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 1: also trail and hit threes and putting him back into

2148
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 1: a roster that includes Andrew Nimhart who has improved and

2149
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 1: more rounded, Tyrese Halliburton, Aaron Nesmith that continues to make

2150
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 1: plays like he did last night, of plays that win

2151
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:55,440
Speaker 1: you games in the end. Jeris Walker that's become consistent

2152
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 1: in his scoring off the bench. Last night unique stat

2153
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 1: line sixteen points and then donuts across the board, but

2154
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 1: still with his body type and his ability intriguing. And

2155
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 1: then you factor in the possibility of a wing off

2156
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: the bench, that is a young player on a friendly

2157
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 1: contract that you acquire via the draft, that replaces Ben Mathering,

2158
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 1: who you used to get yourself the center. Nothing against

2159
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 1: Ben Mathering at all. Wonderful guy, wonderful player, wonderful scorer,

2160
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 1: and has done good things for the franchise here. But

2161
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: it might be that his biggest contribution is he can

2162
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: be flipped into a piece that is of more importance,

2163
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 1: unfortunately for him. And I think everybody last night in

2164
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 1: the back of their minds in the last five minutes

2165
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 1: of that game, as everybody's standing up in their chanting defense,

2166
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 1: and it felt like May and June all over again.

2167
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 1: And it was cool and it was fun and the

2168
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:03,680
Speaker 1: rest of the league Eddie Garrison has brought his way

2169
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: back into the booth. Thank you, Eddie, We appreciate your return.

2170
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: The rest of the league last night probably was wondering

2171
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:14,559
Speaker 1: why it was that this fan base that all showed up.

2172
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: It felt like last night, It felt like last year.

2173
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the fans all showed up, And maybe the

2174
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 1: rest of the league is wondering why everybody was standing

2175
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 1: up and applauding and trying to carry and lift a

2176
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 1: team to a twelfth win in forty plus sum outings,

2177
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 1: and that cheering that we were doing, the high fives

2178
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 1: that people were doing, the chanting we were doing. You

2179
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 1: know what all of that was, Eddie last night at

2180
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 1: the Fieldhouse?

2181
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:43,560
Speaker 6: What was that?

2182
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 1: A fan base in QR?

2183
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 3: Okay, q R?

2184
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 1: No one else might understand it, but we did.

2185
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 3: If I don't show up tomorrow, you know why.

2186
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,640
Speaker 1: Well, if you're going to send some sort of a

2187
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:57,679
Speaker 1: note about that, you can either just say it directly

2188
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 1: or you can speak it in code. Love it? Hey, Jake,

2189
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 1: does QR stand for questionable radio?

2190
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:10,560
Speaker 6: You know?

2191
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think it's questionable. I think

2192
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 1: it's solid. Quality radio? Is what that is? Quality radio?

2193
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 1: Where'd you go in your little smoke break at Eddie?

2194
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:24,879
Speaker 3: Let's go find the chipmunk?

2195
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 1: You know that was I gotta be honest with you.

2196
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 1: That was perhaps the best five minutes we've had of radio. James, Huh,

2197
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 1: who's we the cohesiveness? James?

2198
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 4: And I?

2199
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 1: Oh, you want me to there was a coagulation there.

2200
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 3: You want me to go bring him back? You can

2201
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 3: just sure that guy's hip is what he is.

2202
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 8: He is.

2203
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 3: He has a little man bun. Make some hip.

2204
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 1: What did you think of Johnny Furphy last night?

2205
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 2: I think Johnny Firfrey has really solidified himself weird hair

2206
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: the last two weeks month as either the best or

2207
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 2: second best defender on the Pacers team. The way that

2208
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 2: he has mastered lately, the ability as as if he's

2209
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 2: on a guard to let the guard get into his

2210
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 2: chest and he has the length to kind of reach

2211
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 2: around the backside and poke the ball free and generate

2212
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 2: a fast break has been really really impressive to me,

2213
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:26,839
Speaker 2: and I'm interested to see how the shot continues to develop.

2214
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 2: Because he hasn't shot the ball well but correct. He

2215
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 2: stays on the floor because of his defense, and it's

2216
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 2: something that I wish that Benedickmatherin could take a little

2217
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 2: bit from. If you watch Furphy after missus, nine times

2218
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 2: out of ten, he is going to be the first

2219
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 2: player on the other side of the floor.

2220
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 3: He is sprinting all the time. He's never jogging, he's

2221
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 3: never moping walking up and down the floor. He is

2222
01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 3: always sprinting and he is always.

2223
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 2: Crashing the glass hall for a team that has had

2224
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 2: struggles rebounding since the acquisition of Tarrese Aliberty. When they

2225
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 2: shipped off de Manda Sibonis, And I think that he's

2226
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 2: starting to become one of those guys that you can

2227
01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 2: rely on on a nightly basis for twenty to twenty

2228
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 2: five minutes, maybe even thirty, depending on if he's got

2229
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 2: a shot going that night.

2230
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 1: You know, he Furfey is a deceptive rebounder. And by that,

2231
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean you don't kind of realize, Like I looked

2232
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 1: up last night, how many rebounds did he have. I'm

2233
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 1: going to say he had six to eight right somewhere there,

2234
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 1: uh huh, And you don't really realize he has any

2235
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 1: of them and then you look up here, oh wow.

2236
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 1: And I do think that he is a his defensive

2237
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: ability does create a little something for him, opportunity. And

2238
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 1: maybe it's unfair to say he was drafted as a

2239
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 1: flyer because but he was a second round pick. He

2240
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 1: played one year at Kansas. I don't think that he

2241
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 1: was like, oh, really hyped when he got to Kansas

2242
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: coming out of Australia.

2243
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 2: Well, if I remember correctly, he was one of those

2244
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 2: guys that was a fringe first round or toward the end,

2245
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 2: like there was a lot of talk about him going

2246
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 2: as like in that Isaiah Jackson that twenty to thirty

2247
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 2: range and he just kept falling. And people are on

2248
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 2: the draft covered were like going on here with Johnny Furfin,

2249
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 2: like white, hasn't he come off the board. And the

2250
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 2: Pacers said when they drafted him, yeah, we didn't work

2251
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 2: him out because didn't think he'd be here.

2252
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: Right, So, you know, it was one of those hey,

2253
01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 1: we have this, we have a let's go ahead and

2254
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 1: take it and see what happens. And I think that

2255
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 1: there are and you get this with Austin Kroscher is

2256
01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 1: a good example of this, Jeff Foster. Those are two

2257
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 1: good examples of guys. And those guys were drafted with

2258
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, more in better spots, but those are guys

2259
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 1: that were drafted in early in their career, didn't get

2260
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 1: a lot of playing time, and so you kind of

2261
01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: forgot about him, and then once they finally went to it,

2262
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:57,560
Speaker 1: they started playing him like you know what, this guy

2263
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 1: can play a little bit, and before you know it,

2264
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:02,960
Speaker 1: they are long standing parts of the franchise. And maybe

2265
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 1: the Pacers have found that with Johnny Furpy. I mean, listen,

2266
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 1: a couple of good games does not a season nor

2267
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 1: any sort of solid career. Make but it beats the alternative, right.

2268
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 1: I just think that this year, and maybe maybe I'm

2269
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 1: being you know, optimistic ali here maybe, but as disappointing

2270
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 1: as it is to see a team lose a lot

2271
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 1: of games, especially coming off of where they were, it

2272
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 1: does feel like there that we could look back on

2273
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 1: it and say, man, what in the end a huge

2274
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 1: year that turned out to be?

2275
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 2: Right, Like, you talk about the championship window and like

2276
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:52,920
Speaker 2: how long it is, and if they go down this path,

2277
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 2: they're like, Okay, we need to lose as many games

2278
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 2: the rest of the way to give us the best

2279
01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 2: chance at maintaining one of the bottom three record within

2280
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:01,840
Speaker 2: the NBA, to give us the best chance at the

2281
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:05,480
Speaker 2: number one overall pick. I feel like that would extend

2282
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 2: that window a little bit because theoretically you're going to

2283
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:12,080
Speaker 2: get one of those big three if you can secure

2284
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 2: a top three pick. Cameron Boozo, A J. Debanza or

2285
01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 2: Darren Peterson, And there have been a lot of high

2286
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 2: remarks about each one of those guys about being if

2287
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 2: it was any other year, they would probably be the

2288
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 2: number one overall pick each one of them correct, But like,

2289
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:29,280
Speaker 2: since they're all in the same class, it's like, well,

2290
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 2: which one do you want? Like, at the end of

2291
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:32,800
Speaker 2: the day, it's going to come down to personal preference.

2292
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 2: But for a team like the Pacers, who hasn't had

2293
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 2: great success with Matheren and Walker, but we're seeing a

2294
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 2: little bit of it now with Walker and these highly

2295
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 2: lottery picks, and especially in the first round in general,

2296
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,160
Speaker 2: you have to be able to capitalize on these situations,

2297
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 2: kind of like Oklahoma City when they stockpiled all those

2298
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:52,640
Speaker 2: first round picks and now they've become this team that

2299
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 2: nobody can stop and.

2300
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 1: They've got to hit on them. Sure, right right, But

2301
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 1: it does feel like, you know, one of the years,

2302
01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:01,320
Speaker 1: do you remember the year that Palo Bankero went number

2303
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 1: one overall and that was that was a shock like

2304
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 1: at the last minute, Yes, because Jabari Smith was the

2305
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:11,840
Speaker 1: guy that was the presumptive number one. Yeah, what has

2306
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 1: he done? And he's okay? Right in Houston.

2307
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 2: I think he's a solid player, like he uh, I

2308
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:18,720
Speaker 2: think he's still trying to figure it out, because I mean,

2309
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 2: I think he dealt with injuries his rookie year and

2310
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 2: then they get a new coach and things start changing

2311
02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 2: a little bit with the system and players around him.

2312
02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 1: But you got to give credit to Orlando there though,

2313
02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:31,560
Speaker 1: because that was not I mean, that was kind of

2314
02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 1: an out not out of left field. It's ridiculous, but

2315
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:36,800
Speaker 1: that was a surprise when all of a sudden, ban

2316
02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:40,320
Speaker 1: Caro was the pick. And I mean I do think

2317
02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 1: he is a franchise level player. He's a solid pillar

2318
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:44,680
Speaker 1: piece player. There was one other one who was the

2319
02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 1: other one that was involved that year?

2320
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 3: It's whoever went between Jabari and so did Jabari go third?

2321
02:00:51,680 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2322
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 3: He went third?

2323
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 6: What year?

2324
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 1: Look that up? That was that twenty two? Yeah, So

2325
02:00:57,280 --> 02:01:00,920
Speaker 1: who was the second pick in twenty twenty his chet Holmgren. Okay,

2326
02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean that's.

2327
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 3: Ben Caro, chant Holme, Granger Bars, you'd have.

2328
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:07,240
Speaker 1: Been okay, we're taking home grand number one also, right,

2329
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean he's obviously a solid player.

2330
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 3: Ivy matherin Sharp Daniels.

2331
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 1: Do you remember the year that Quentin Richardson was drafted.

2332
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 3: Quentin Richardson, Yeah, out of the Paul Jake. You're you're

2333
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 3: pushing it.

2334
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 1: He went by his nickname, which were his initials.

2335
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 3: Pushing again, you don't remember him, you're pushing it?

2336
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fair enough two thousand Quentin Richardson, what

2337
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 1: no I'm gonna I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna say Quentin

2338
02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:42,440
Speaker 1: Richardson was the seventeenth picking the draft? Close sixteen? No,

2339
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 1: what was he? Pyton mating eighteen? Huh yeah, okay, that's

2340
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 1: pretty close. Right, I'm telling you the six seven things old.

2341
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 1: That's how dated? What's that?

2342
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:57,280
Speaker 3: You see what I did there? What's that spoken QR for?

2343
02:01:57,400 --> 02:01:57,440
Speaker 4: You?

2344
02:01:58,320 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 6: See? See?

2345
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 1: You got to say it afterwards. Kids are gonna be

2346
02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 1: saying it all the day A long. Eddie just marked

2347
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:09,560
Speaker 1: my words? What are you indicating that that is in

2348
02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:12,480
Speaker 1: some way some sort of indictment on the trajectory of

2349
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:13,080
Speaker 1: this program?

2350
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 3: I just like Tom Petty, Jake, that's all fair enough.

2351
02:02:18,200 --> 02:02:21,200
Speaker 1: Hey, Jake. By the way, Brendan King. You like Brendan King? Right, yeah,

2352
02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 1: I do, colleague of ours, yep, well respected broadcaster, does

2353
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 1: absolutely within the cup system, right yeah.

2354
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Speaker 2: I does some stuff for the Sycamores, and he's got

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Speaker 2: a game on the CW network in three and a

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Speaker 2: half weeks.

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Speaker 1: Just sent me a thing, hey, Jake, love that you're

2358
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 1: speaking the code now, okay, Jake, No way, he sent that, Jake.

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Speaker 1: I was flying home this morning, flying through Dallas Fort

2360
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:49,600
Speaker 1: Worth in the whole back half of the plane was

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02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:52,400
Speaker 1: a junior high school cheerleading team. I've never heard more

2362
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:56,360
Speaker 1: six sevens in my life. It was painful. And again

2363
02:02:57,120 --> 02:03:01,360
Speaker 1: I responded with they're totally behind the times. They'll all

2364
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:04,080
Speaker 1: be saying the QR coming up before you know it.

2365
02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:10,640
Speaker 1: QR just mean speaking with your buddies in code. Eddie's

2366
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 1: a fan yesterday. I did not think a lot of

2367
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 1: this at the time, and it kind of I mean,

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02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:24,600
Speaker 1: I did think a lot of it, but I didn't

2369
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:29,720
Speaker 1: know that it would go beyond what we're about to replay.

2370
02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:35,040
Speaker 1: But Mike Chapel came on yesterday. I wanted to have

2371
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:38,560
Speaker 1: chap on because this voting for the NFL Hall of Fame,

2372
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:41,320
Speaker 1: the Pro Football of Fame technically speaking, because if you've

2373
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 1: been they have displays and things commemorating all levels of football,

2374
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 1: not just the NFL, but the Pro Football Hall of

2375
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 1: Fame voting. And this is relevant to Indianapolis for three reasons.

2376
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:02,120
Speaker 1: Number one because it involved Bill Belichick. And if you

2377
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 1: look over the course of his time that Belichick was coaching,

2378
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:08,600
Speaker 1: probably the team that was the biggest rival of the

2379
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 1: Patriots was the Colts. And there are others I mean

2380
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and you know, for Belichick himself, it probably

2381
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 1: would be the Jets because he had coached there, but

2382
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:21,600
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. You know, there are number of teams that

2383
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:25,080
Speaker 1: are rivals to the Patriots, but the Colts right there

2384
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:28,160
Speaker 1: in the thick of it. And in addition to that,

2385
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 1: the scandals in which he has a notation on his resume,

2386
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 1: so to speak. The flight Gate is a huge one

2387
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 1: of those, and that was against the Colts, and then

2388
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 1: you have Spygate as well, where he was fined.

2389
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 6: So the.

2390
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:52,800
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voting has been done, and Belichick finds

2391
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 1: out that he's not going to get in, and somebody,

2392
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:59,400
Speaker 1: whether it was he his girlfriend, his or fiance or

2393
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what the relationship is, but or his agent,

2394
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:04,240
Speaker 1: somebody leaks out that he's not going to get in

2395
02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:07,440
Speaker 1: on the first ballot, and it's this big stinking to do,

2396
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 1: and you would probably just leave the story there, except

2397
02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:15,080
Speaker 1: for yesterday Matt Verdiram, our friend who we had on

2398
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:18,880
Speaker 1: from SI, had the phone conversation with Bill Pollian where

2399
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 1: Bill Poullian said that any insinuation that Bill Pollian was

2400
02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:28,080
Speaker 1: behind Belichick not getting in on the first ballot was

2401
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:31,760
Speaker 1: categorically untrue. And I immediately when I heard verd Ram

2402
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:35,640
Speaker 1: say that that was Pollyon's words, immediately thought of the

2403
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 1: famous j Moore phone call on Mark Patrick's program that

2404
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 1: JAMV was producing, of Bill Pollion saying to Jay Moore

2405
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:48,040
Speaker 1: about Edrin James and that whole controversy, you know, fifteen

2406
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:50,440
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, that is, you don't have a shred

2407
02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:53,040
Speaker 1: of evidence that is categorically untrue. That was twenty plus

2408
02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:56,320
Speaker 1: years ago, actually, so I could hear Pollyon saying it.

2409
02:05:56,640 --> 02:06:01,839
Speaker 1: But now he is obviously a much less animated Bill Pullion,

2410
02:06:02,840 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 1: and I believe that Bill Pollion's telling the truth when

2411
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:06,760
Speaker 1: he says, look, I voted for him. I'm stunned he

2412
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:10,880
Speaker 1: didn't get in. Then later to ESPN he said, well,

2413
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm like ninety five percent sure I voted for him.

2414
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 1: So when we had chap On, I wanted to have

2415
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:19,920
Speaker 1: chap On for two reasons. Number one, to ask if there,

2416
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 1: in fact was some sort of a campaign, or if

2417
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 1: there was anybody who had said, guys, we're going to

2418
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:28,440
Speaker 1: make sure we penalize Belichick and not get him in.

2419
02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:30,960
Speaker 1: So we need everybody can we get to show a

2420
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 1: hands on who's behind us here? I wanted to know

2421
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 1: if that took place, And then secondly I wanted to know,

2422
02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:41,960
Speaker 1: oh gosh, Reggie Wayne and Adam Minitaria are both eligible

2423
02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 1: this year, and if pollion or excuse me, if Belichick

2424
02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 1: is not getting in, does that mean that those two

2425
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:50,840
Speaker 1: guys have a better chance. And the way that Chap

2426
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:53,000
Speaker 1: explained it, of course, is that there are two categories.

2427
02:06:53,960 --> 02:06:57,760
Speaker 1: The first has fifteen finalists that are all former players,

2428
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:02,520
Speaker 1: of which five will get in. The other category has

2429
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:07,480
Speaker 1: five individuals that can either be senior players that have

2430
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:10,960
Speaker 1: gone through the cycle in group number one that I

2431
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 1: just mentioned, or executives, coaches, contributors, etc. Of that five,

2432
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:21,920
Speaker 1: there are three that will get in, and those five

2433
02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:25,840
Speaker 1: are Roger Craig of the Niners, Kenny Anderson, the former

2434
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 1: Bengals quarterback, and Else Greenwood the Steel Curtain. And then

2435
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 1: the other two Robert Craft, Bill Belichick, now Robert Kraft,

2436
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:40,000
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize this at the time that Belichick

2437
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 1: left New England. That created an icy relationship between he

2438
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:46,920
Speaker 1: and Robert Kraft that is apparently almost bitter to this day.

2439
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:51,720
Speaker 1: So perhaps it is Craft that is a part of this.

2440
02:07:52,240 --> 02:07:57,600
Speaker 1: We don't know, but would be pretty crafty. It would

2441
02:07:57,640 --> 02:08:03,280
Speaker 1: be crafty. Indeed. Right, he's not telling anybody what to do,

2442
02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:06,000
Speaker 1: he's just giving him a slight tug in that direction. Right.

2443
02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 1: So let me play for you first what chap said

2444
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:13,360
Speaker 1: yesterday on the program in regards to all of this,

2445
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:16,640
Speaker 1: and then the reason why my eyebrow was raised even

2446
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:18,839
Speaker 1: more last night. Here is Mike Chapel. Yesterday.

2447
02:08:19,640 --> 02:08:24,720
Speaker 5: There were pluses, minuses, more many many more pluses than minuses.

2448
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:28,360
Speaker 5: But no one ever said, hey, man, don't vote for

2449
02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:29,960
Speaker 5: this check off.

2450
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:31,320
Speaker 8: No, none of that.

2451
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:33,120
Speaker 1: It was just you debate.

2452
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:36,640
Speaker 5: There's good debate, there's bad debate, there's there's emotions. But

2453
02:08:36,760 --> 02:08:42,320
Speaker 5: there were never any constructions by anybody about get selectors.

2454
02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:45,320
Speaker 1: So to your knowledge, there was never any sort of

2455
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 1: a campaign to keep him out, to penalize him.

2456
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 5: No, no, anyone that says that I was in the room. Yes, there,

2457
02:08:57,520 --> 02:09:02,560
Speaker 5: spygate came up because because he cheated. I mean, let's

2458
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:05,080
Speaker 5: just we can candy code all you want.

2459
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:07,400
Speaker 6: He was just flung by the.

2460
02:09:07,480 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 5: League five hundred thousand dollars and they were docked a

2461
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 5: first round draft pick. So that's on his bio.

2462
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 6: So certainly, with disgust.

2463
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 5: Now it just depends on how much you want to

2464
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 5: weigh that into keeping him out or or making him

2465
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 5: wait a year.

2466
02:09:24,680 --> 02:09:24,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

2467
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 5: It's so different than we've had players who have been

2468
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:34,080
Speaker 5: suspended for games for for steroidspdis whatever.

2469
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 4: And that.

2470
02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 5: Should that that could impact their their their nomination, their candidacy,

2471
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:47,800
Speaker 5: because that's part of there's no morality clause the Hall

2472
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:50,840
Speaker 5: of Fame Football Hall of Fame. It's all based on

2473
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:56,160
Speaker 5: on the field. And I would argue that Spygate impacts

2474
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:59,440
Speaker 5: on the field. I would argue that a four game

2475
02:09:59,480 --> 02:10:06,000
Speaker 5: suspension for peds or whatever, it's it's on field related.

2476
02:10:06,200 --> 02:10:07,280
Speaker 4: So uh.

2477
02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:13,560
Speaker 5: But but if there's an off the field thing whatever, that's.

2478
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: Not to be or or one thing.

2479
02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:19,000
Speaker 5: And please we people who say that that Bill Belichick

2480
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 5: was kept out because he was because he was a

2481
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:25,080
Speaker 5: bad guy to deal with in the media, that that's

2482
02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:26,120
Speaker 5: so much bs.

2483
02:10:26,840 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 1: It really is.

2484
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:28,640
Speaker 6: Uh.

2485
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 5: I've voted for people that I didn't care for. I

2486
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:36,360
Speaker 5: voted for people that or be off our interviews. That's

2487
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:39,680
Speaker 5: got nothing to do with it. And if it does, yes,

2488
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:41,480
Speaker 5: you should no longer be a selector.

2489
02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:42,959
Speaker 1: Did you vote for Belichick?

2490
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:44,320
Speaker 6: I can't.

2491
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:47,080
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna tell you I I know you got

2492
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:50,920
Speaker 5: to ask. I'm not gonna say I'm I'm no, I'm

2493
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:52,880
Speaker 5: just I'll leave it at that. I'm gonna keep it quiet.

2494
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:55,680
Speaker 5: I may come out and say later, but right now,

2495
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:56,440
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say.

2496
02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 1: Now all of that to me, I thought, okay, that's cool,

2497
02:11:01,160 --> 02:11:07,240
Speaker 1: and then last night Chap posted a statement in a

2498
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 1: news release that was sent out by the Pro Football

2499
02:11:09,320 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. It says, statement on media reports related

2500
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:17,760
Speaker 1: to Hall of Fame's Class of twenty twenty six, I'm

2501
02:11:17,800 --> 02:11:21,840
Speaker 1: going to read it here. Quote. The Pro Football Hall

2502
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:26,480
Speaker 1: of Fame understands and respects the passionate reaction of many fans,

2503
02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:31,400
Speaker 1: media members, and enshrinees of the Hall itself, and the

2504
02:11:31,480 --> 02:11:33,960
Speaker 1: light of published reports regarding the voting results for the

2505
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:37,840
Speaker 1: Class of twenty twenty six. It's that very passion that

2506
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:41,560
Speaker 1: propels the game. The Hall also respects the members of

2507
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:46,000
Speaker 1: the Selection committee when they follow the selection process bylaws.

2508
02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:50,080
Speaker 1: It is an honor to serve as a selector. I thought, okay,

2509
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:52,280
Speaker 1: but I'm a little intrigued on where this is going.

2510
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:58,520
Speaker 1: I continue quote. Each year, the Hall reviews the selection

2511
02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:02,640
Speaker 1: process and the composition of the fifty person selection committee,

2512
02:12:03,680 --> 02:12:08,600
Speaker 1: it is determined that any member or members violated Excuse me.

2513
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:12,680
Speaker 1: If it is determined that any member or members violated

2514
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:16,720
Speaker 1: the selection process by laws, they understand action will be

2515
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:20,760
Speaker 1: taken that could include the possibility that such selector or

2516
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:25,200
Speaker 1: selectors would not remain a member of the committee moving forward.

2517
02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:28,600
Speaker 1: The selection of a new class is the most important

2518
02:12:28,680 --> 02:12:31,880
Speaker 1: duty the Hall of Fame oversees each year, and the

2519
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:38,200
Speaker 1: integrity of that process cannot be in question. That statement,

2520
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:44,040
Speaker 1: to me, is one that you only make if you

2521
02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:47,400
Speaker 1: are sending a preemptive note to the fans, to the media,

2522
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:53,280
Speaker 1: to the inductees, to the candidates, to everyone that there

2523
02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:56,760
Speaker 1: could be a change moving forward because someone violated the

2524
02:12:56,960 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 1: rules of Fight Club. The number one rule is you

2525
02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:03,040
Speaker 1: don't tell anybody you are here. You don't tell anybody

2526
02:13:03,080 --> 02:13:06,840
Speaker 1: what happened. You know, they can speak to each other

2527
02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:13,080
Speaker 1: in QR QR, but it is not to go beyond that.

2528
02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:21,240
Speaker 1: And therefore, when I put together the comments from Matt

2529
02:13:21,320 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 1: Verderram from Mike Chapel yesterday, I did believe, Yeah, I

2530
02:13:26,560 --> 02:13:30,520
Speaker 1: don't think Bill Pollion did anything nefarious, and it would

2531
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:33,080
Speaker 1: be irresponsible to me to now conclude that that's what

2532
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:36,680
Speaker 1: took place, or to say so, I like Bill Pollion,

2533
02:13:37,680 --> 02:13:40,520
Speaker 1: Bill Pullien was very difficult to deal with at times

2534
02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:44,800
Speaker 1: when he was the President of the Colts. But I

2535
02:13:44,920 --> 02:13:47,839
Speaker 1: think I can now say that I have enough evidence

2536
02:13:48,520 --> 02:13:52,880
Speaker 1: before me of personal meetings and interactions to say that

2537
02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:56,000
Speaker 1: that wasn't his true character. It's who he knew at

2538
02:13:56,080 --> 02:13:59,560
Speaker 1: times he needed to be to best execute his job

2539
02:13:59,680 --> 02:14:02,280
Speaker 1: as the President of the Colts. But his true character

2540
02:14:02,960 --> 02:14:07,680
Speaker 1: is that of a very decent man, and I still

2541
02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 1: believe that to be true. So I'm not saying it's

2542
02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:13,600
Speaker 1: Bill Pullian that they're talking about there, but that statement

2543
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:17,600
Speaker 1: leads me to believe that they did, in fact somewhere

2544
02:14:17,920 --> 02:14:20,080
Speaker 1: find some sort of a rat and they're like, Okay,

2545
02:14:20,560 --> 02:14:23,240
Speaker 1: we need to let everybody know here, we know what

2546
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:27,400
Speaker 1: you're up to. That wasn't even of them speaking in

2547
02:14:27,480 --> 02:14:34,760
Speaker 1: QR QR. That was them saying directly be aware of

2548
02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:38,760
Speaker 1: what's happening here, which I found interesting. I've seen jmvs

2549
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Speaker 1: in the building. We'll do the crossover, find out what

2550
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Speaker 1: I think we've had giddy show today, Eddie, wouldn't you agree?

2557
02:15:02,120 --> 02:15:03,720
Speaker 3: I felt like I was an a proponent.

2558
02:15:04,320 --> 02:15:06,480
Speaker 1: Like last night when I was watching the Pacers Bulls,

2559
02:15:06,680 --> 02:15:07,320
Speaker 1: I feel like it was.

2560
02:15:07,320 --> 02:15:09,840
Speaker 3: Pretty apropoone to play paula down.

2561
02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:12,520
Speaker 1: Sorry, my headphones dropped out, so I can't hear a

2562
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 1: thing you're saying, Eddie. My body hang on. Yeah, you

2563
02:15:16,520 --> 02:15:18,960
Speaker 1: never sounded better there. I was watching Josh Giddy last

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Speaker 1: night and I thought to myself, that's what tomorrow's show

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Speaker 1: is gonna be like, just a giddy show.

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Speaker 2: I said, it was pretty appropriate to play Paul the Mailman,

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Speaker 2: the director of Giddiness with don't bring me down.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Well, and I think you're worried that my

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02:15:34,240 --> 02:15:36,000
Speaker 1: q R is bringing the show down today, But I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, I think we probably never had. We're gonna

2571
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:43,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna see tomorrow a huge spike. That's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I would expect tomorrow as a matter of fact, do

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02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:47,960
Speaker 1: you think the parking lot's tough? Now, wait till tomorrow

2574
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,880
Speaker 1: with all the kids wanting to come and maybe get

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02:15:50,920 --> 02:15:54,280
Speaker 1: themselves a trademark on the Q Q R, H, J

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Speaker 1: ANDV has arrived. He's got to throw my coat aside. Apologies,

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02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:03,440
Speaker 1: Cheryl Ladd by nice shirt. Cheryl Ladd was Cheryl Ladd?

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02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:08,200
Speaker 7: Was she even with or maybe even a little bit

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02:16:08,320 --> 02:16:10,720
Speaker 7: better than Pharah Fawcett in the day you know what.

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02:16:11,080 --> 02:16:13,840
Speaker 1: Bentley and Rose Royce right boardwalk in park Place?

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02:16:14,360 --> 02:16:14,560
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Probably so, Yeah, Cheryl. I thought Cheryl Ladd was that.

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02:16:18,160 --> 02:16:20,800
Speaker 7: And you know her daughter, Jordan Ladd, was a little

2584
02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:21,960
Speaker 7: smoke to find herself.

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Speaker 1: I was a fan of Cheryl Teigue as well.

2586
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:25,440
Speaker 7: Oh, I like Cheryl.

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02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:27,680
Speaker 1: Cheryl Tige when I did the morning show on IBC,

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02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:30,120
Speaker 1: came on with us once and said she complimented my

2589
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:33,160
Speaker 1: voice that you're really She said, you had an amazing voice.

2590
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Speaker 7: Heather Thomas, I've never wanted to see a button up

2591
02:16:40,680 --> 02:16:47,320
Speaker 7: sweater pop open. So damn well, Scott Bayo and Willie aims,

2592
02:16:47,360 --> 02:16:49,640
Speaker 7: your friend, that's right, I mean that was that was

2593
02:16:49,720 --> 02:16:51,920
Speaker 7: like one thing to think about this for a moment.

2594
02:16:52,200 --> 02:16:57,040
Speaker 7: Scott Bayo is really bad, but he allowed us to

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02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:59,520
Speaker 7: sit through the bad, through some really great stuff.

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Speaker 6: Zap.

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Speaker 1: Charles in Charge was okay, yeah, you're right. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was that's when Nicole Egwi or whatever looked good.

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Speaker 1: Willie Eames was also on Charles in Charge, right, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they were kind of like, uh correct, they

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02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:16,320
Speaker 1: were kind of Sandler and Rob Schneider type things. Right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go. What's on the Big Show today, John

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Speaker 1: Chris Kramer.

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Speaker 7: We're going to figure out the Boilermaker situation, he suggests.

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02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:25,840
Speaker 7: He suggests that it's something they can get through, and

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02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:28,560
Speaker 7: I don't doubt that whatsoever because it's something that he

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02:17:28,640 --> 02:17:30,480
Speaker 7: had gone through as a player before. But I would

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02:17:30,560 --> 02:17:33,760
Speaker 7: also I would chime in with it's never been at

2609
02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:38,160
Speaker 7: this magnitude of expectation right now, So I think their

2610
02:17:38,240 --> 02:17:41,720
Speaker 7: end result probably was around sweet sixteen with him that

2611
02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:46,160
Speaker 7: this is a completely different ballgame than anything with expectations

2612
02:17:46,240 --> 02:17:49,320
Speaker 7: right now. So I think this is a little bit

2613
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Speaker 7: more serious than people.

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Speaker 6: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: So are you guys gonna I think they look like

2616
02:17:54,160 --> 02:17:56,120
Speaker 1: they're tired of playing with one ano. That's that's what

2617
02:17:56,160 --> 02:17:58,600
Speaker 1: we talked about yesterday. And you wonder now. I mean,

2618
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Speaker 1: I hate to say this, John So not saying this

2619
02:18:01,520 --> 02:18:04,160
Speaker 1: about Purdue, but just in general, when are we in

2620
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Speaker 1: college athletics going to start seeing teams that get disrupted

2621
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:11,840
Speaker 1: by the uneven disbursement of money. I'm sure these guys

2622
02:18:11,959 --> 02:18:14,200
Speaker 1: just look like they're tired of one another at times.

2623
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:15,560
Speaker 1: You could just kind of tell.

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02:18:15,720 --> 02:18:19,520
Speaker 7: And I had pointed out Trey Kaufman ren being incredibly

2625
02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:23,520
Speaker 7: disappointing to me, even with good numbers this season, but

2626
02:18:23,879 --> 02:18:27,920
Speaker 7: he looks either frustrated or checked out more often than

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Speaker 7: not out there, and it can't be that way. And

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Speaker 7: I think that that was the flare that Matt Painter

2629
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Speaker 7: shot after that game the other night in Bloomington was

2630
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Speaker 7: you know, these guys.

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Speaker 1: Got to get back on it.

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Speaker 3: We got to find somebody that can get out here.

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Speaker 7: And it's funny, right, Jake, We talked about just how

2634
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Speaker 7: deep that that team was at the start of the year,

2635
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Speaker 7: and now you're kind of wondering where are they going

2636
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Speaker 7: to find it to get through this and hopefully for

2637
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Speaker 7: them find a more brighter other side right now.

2638
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Speaker 1: Because it's going to have to be through their dudes.

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Speaker 7: I would more count on Kaufman Wren that I would

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Speaker 7: Fletcher Lawyer all of a sudd udon finding well that's three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean if Fletcher Lawyer is shooting the ball

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Speaker 1: like this in March, they're in real trouble, right, because

2643
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Speaker 1: the problem is such an important piece.

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Speaker 7: He really doesn't he didn't have much of a use

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Speaker 7: outside of being able to knock down three question.

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Speaker 1: I said, yes, trus he's the one piston that has

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02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:19,320
Speaker 1: to be firing cohesion because if he's not, everything rattles right.

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Speaker 7: It is a struggle. We'll talk about that if you

2649
02:19:21,560 --> 02:19:23,760
Speaker 7: guys talked about the whole Belichick thing. Do I really

2650
02:19:23,800 --> 02:19:25,360
Speaker 7: care about that? Hey, you know, we live in a

2651
02:19:25,400 --> 02:19:30,119
Speaker 7: world right where ultimately somebody's going to get you on something,

2652
02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:32,640
Speaker 7: Like everybody was bringing up Bill Pollion. Did you bring

2653
02:19:32,720 --> 02:19:35,440
Speaker 7: up the fact that when Bill Polian had that down

2654
02:19:35,560 --> 02:19:38,040
Speaker 7: year and that down cycle with this team, with the

2655
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Speaker 7: Manning neck and everything, that people were chomping at the

2656
02:19:41,160 --> 02:19:44,879
Speaker 7: bit overall West fifty six to bounce his ass. Yep,

2657
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Speaker 7: they were coming up with any and they ultimately did

2658
02:19:47,840 --> 02:19:52,160
Speaker 7: bounce his ass over there. So this happens, especially at

2659
02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:54,200
Speaker 7: a high level when you win, but when you do

2660
02:19:54,400 --> 02:19:57,280
Speaker 7: some things that people don't like when you rub people wrong.

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Speaker 7: When you're at your most vulnerable. Jay, They're gonna find

2662
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Speaker 7: a way. I got your ask, John, I said yesterday.

2663
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Speaker 7: The way you're treating people comes back to help or

2664
02:20:04,480 --> 02:20:04,800
Speaker 7: haunt you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, one of those two. All right, John's up next.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with you at noon tomorrow. Eddie

2667
02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:13,720
Speaker 1: is questioned. Eddie's day to day game time decision for

2668
02:20:13,800 --> 02:20:16,200
Speaker 1: Eddie tomorrow? Is that right, Eddie to wait and see.

2669
02:20:16,600 --> 02:20:18,879
Speaker 1: If you decide not to come in, you can either

2670
02:20:18,959 --> 02:20:20,840
Speaker 1: let me know directly or just through the you know

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Speaker 1: in q R q R, and either way we'll figure

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Speaker 1: it out. I thank everybody for listening to Quarrying Company.