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Speaker 1: Line from Baal Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: The jobs report is in, and the jobs report tells

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Speaker 2: a story. US payrolls rose by one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: thousand in the month of January. Tony Katz, Tony kats today.

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, good to be with you. And

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Speaker 2: the expectation I believe was what seventy thousand. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: the expectation was fifty five thousand, which means the expectation

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Speaker 2: was beaten by seventy thousand jobs. Now I had doctor

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Speaker 2: Matt will the economist at the University of Indianapolis, do

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Speaker 2: a little breakdown for me. Healthcare is up by one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three thousand, not necessarily a great thing.

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Speaker 2: But government is down forty two thousand, and that is spectacular.

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Speaker 2: The reduction in government jobs is incredible. Now you've heard

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Speaker 2: me say this before. The truth is government can't create

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Speaker 2: a job. Government can only create work. This is These

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Speaker 2: are the facts. But when government is down and government

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Speaker 2: is not the employer, it means the private sector is.

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Speaker 2: And that's the much better telltale of what it is

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Speaker 2: that an economy is dealing with and is experiencing. Manufacturing

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Speaker 2: is flat, but construction is up thirty three thousand. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna start seeing home sales again, is that what we're

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Speaker 2: is because of weather, right, the weather's starting to warm up.

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Speaker 2: Now we're gonna start seeing more homes. So okay, well

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Speaker 2: that's fine. But one hundred and thirty thousand is a

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Speaker 2: very very nice number. One hundred and thirty thousand. It's

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Speaker 2: the kind of number that the Trump administration should be

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Speaker 2: yelling from the rooftops. It goes along with the story

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Speaker 2: about violent crime. You may not have seen this story

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Speaker 2: about violent crime and how violent crime has plummeted across

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Speaker 2: major cities. This was Axios violent crime plummets across major

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Speaker 2: this story comes from, put this out at first, when

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Speaker 3: They posted it on the Twitter X. Here's exactly.

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Speaker 2: What it said.

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Speaker 3: It said crime plunges.

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Speaker 2: In major cities despite Trump's crackdown rhetoric. What in the

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Speaker 2: world is that despite his crackdown rhetoric? You mean saying

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Speaker 2: that we're going to do something about crime and then

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Speaker 2: going into cities like Washington, d C.

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Speaker 3: And Memphis and doing something about crime and.

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Speaker 2: Letting everybody know that we're serious about putting an end

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just some silly stuff right there. But

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Speaker 2: the numbers are quite incredible. The numbers really are something

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Speaker 2: when you see how much they've come down, and there's

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Speaker 2: a great graph that shares this with you. Orlando, Florida

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Speaker 2: down fifty eight point three percent, Tampa, Florida down fifty

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Speaker 2: Got a lot easier in Albuquerque after Walter White died.

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Speaker 2: And then Baltimore down thirty one point four percent. Baltimore, Baby.

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Speaker 2: These are good things, and the Trump administration should be

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Speaker 2: proactive in discussing them, just like they should be proactive

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Speaker 2: in discussing what happened with these jobs numbers. Can they

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Speaker 2: revise down? Absolutely, they can revise down.

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Speaker 3: We have been through this.

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Speaker 2: We have seen this before, that these jobs numbers can

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Speaker 2: uh Biden administration every single month, every single month. Now,

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Speaker 2: there is something else kind of interesting about these jobs numbers.

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Speaker 2: As the unemployment employment rate went down to four point

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Speaker 3: Have they given up on getting a job?

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Speaker 2: That's the question before us, Has anybody? Have people gotten

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Speaker 2: who is unemployed and who isn't which is the issue.

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Speaker 2: But when you are given this gift, you are going

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Speaker 2: realizing that the government hiring is down. That is great news.

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Speaker 2: We are never better off when government is growing. And

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Speaker 2: one of the ways sometimes the numbers get manipulated is

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Speaker 2: jobs went up. This hasn't seen, at least of now,

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Speaker 3: Actually the down, the NASDAC down.

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Speaker 2: Okay, lots of other things can affect lots of other things.

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Speaker 2: But if the story is heading into a midterm, hey

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Speaker 2: we're growing, Hey we're building, Hey we're increasing, Hey we're

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Speaker 2: getting out of the Biden mess and morass. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I was very happy to see President Trump the other day.

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Speaker 2: He's on with Larry Kudlow on Fox Business and he's

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Speaker 2: I think having the absolutely worked conversation.

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Speaker 5: Start with doubt fifty thousand, congratulations with the America.

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Speaker 2: That was your truth.

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Speaker 5: Social The economy is hitting on all cylinders. Most of

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Speaker 5: the experts have been completely wrong about it. So as

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Speaker 5: you look at this thing, it's the midterm elections and

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Speaker 5: so forth, how good a year is it going to

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Speaker 5: be twenty twenty six, Well, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's going to be great.

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Speaker 6: You know when you say fifty thousand, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: I think the huge number when you think.

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Speaker 6: About it, right, And I remember when I first won,

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Speaker 6: they said, if he gets to dial up to fifteen

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Speaker 6: have done miracles.

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Speaker 7: And we're at the end of the first year.

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Speaker 2: So when you think about it, that's great.

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Speaker 6: And the S and P the same thing, and everything else,

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Speaker 6: I mean, everything's going great. We inherited a total mess

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Speaker 6: Worst ever in history they say forty eight years, but

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Speaker 6: basically ever in and the price is high. And you

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Speaker 6: don't hear them use the word affordability, and where they

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Speaker 2: Hold on a second, even your White House is talking

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Speaker 2: about mortgage affordability. So people still use the term affordability, right,

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Speaker 3: Not by I'm exhausted by the terminology.

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Speaker 2: But this is the argument, right, this is where President

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Speaker 2: Trump should be. We inherited the mess, We got this,

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Speaker 2: we got that, and here's what we're doing. This is

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Speaker 2: the right, proper smart methodology. This is how you get

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Speaker 2: this again and again and again. This is how you

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Speaker 2: Here is the tangible result, and soon you will feel it.

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Speaker 2: Now it's easy when you can say and look, there's

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Speaker 3: You're already experiencing it. We give people something to look to, something.

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Speaker 2: To hope to. It matters greatly on these jobs numbers.

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Speaker 2: psychology of how do you think things are going? How

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Speaker 2: you think things are going? And this has been a

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Speaker 2: conversation that's going everywhere over there at News Nation. I

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Speaker 2: appreciated the shout out from Leland Vindert. He's got Bill

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Speaker 2: O'Reilly on the show who I've I've I've never filled

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Speaker 3: He does these vignettes that play across the country.

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Speaker 2: I filled in there before, happy to do it. And

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Speaker 2: Bill was on the show and Leland Viddert is talking

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Speaker 2: about this same subject about how do you engage in

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Speaker 2: economic converse sation of value.

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Speaker 8: buddy of mind Tony Katz, radio host out in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 8: used to always say that Trump always wins. First rule

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Speaker 8: of trump How does Trump get a win?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 3: To turn the feeling in the country.

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Speaker 2: Around Now, my conversation is, the first rule of trump

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Speaker 2: Ism is Trump wins. This goes back to twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: There are two rules of trump Ism. The first rule

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Speaker 2: trump Ism is that a deal can always be made

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Speaker 2: as long as it adheres to the.

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Speaker 3: First rule of trump Ism.

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Speaker 2: And we have been having this conversation for well that's

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, and it's twenty and twenty six, nine thousand years.

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Speaker 2: But it's true.

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Speaker 3: It's a thousand percent true.

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Speaker 2: Everything is about how he can create the deal that

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Speaker 3: I thought that Bill O'Reilly's answer was interesting.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think he's counting on the text refunds to

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Speaker 9: really gin up the economy.

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Speaker 2: That would be number one. Number two.

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Speaker 9: The administration believes that Iran and Cuba will fall. Now,

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Speaker 9: it is true that most Americans don't vote peign policy.

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Speaker 9: The third thing is that the Trump administration is to

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Speaker 9: figure out how to bring down insurance costs. Insurance, that's

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Speaker 9: the main reason that people are finding working. People are

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Speaker 9: to pay these enormous insurance costs and it dwarfs food.

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Speaker 9: that's the poll you just cited.

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Speaker 2: So first things first, Trump is depending on the one

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Speaker 2: feel good. Now, it's true, they'll get a check and

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Speaker 2: they'll feel good. It's not as good as costs going down,

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Speaker 2: which is what he hits. Third pointed to a specific

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Speaker 2: that leads to victory. That's correct. Now, He's also right

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Speaker 2: Iran and Cuba falling. People don't usually vote on foreign policy, however,

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Speaker 2: ending the Islamic threat and the terrorist threat of Iran,

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Speaker 2: pearl of the Caribbean, and actually having ourselves a relationship

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Speaker 2: Cuba because of Venezuela, of a Maduro going down, in

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Speaker 2: the oil not being in the hands of these despots.

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Speaker 2: Well they're not getting their oil now. They can't do refueling,

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Speaker 2: they can't do this, they can't do that. Don't ask

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Speaker 2: me to feel bad for the Cubans. No, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: Let's see the castro not well it's not castros anymore,

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Speaker 2: but let's see that group of commis. Go, let's see

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Speaker 2: a free Cuba. I'll help them all I can. I

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Speaker 2: in Cuba. I can't wait. Let the kamis fall. It

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Speaker 2: will have a level of effect. But here's what's coming people,

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Speaker 2: here's the economic help that's on its way. And here

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Speaker 3: Which one is more important? Which one?

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Speaker 2: I could show you a post from Representative ilhan Omar

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Speaker 2: For the death of the president. She has no issue

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Speaker 2: Representative ilhan Omar is disgusting, But I never mind a

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's all a part of the same group involved

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Speaker 2: There are Americans involved, there are non Americans involved. I

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Speaker 2: let's keep doing it. We'll do it another way. Ice

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six World Cup matches, which people are going

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Speaker 3: We're looking for anything, anywhere, any reason at all.

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Speaker 2: Those arrested by ice did not have any criminal record

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Speaker 2: and that's a problem.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's get rid of these people.

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Speaker 2: People who have been picked up by ice were guilty

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a violent defense. Yet the irs

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a violent offense. Violent offenses. This is now

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Speaker 12: And let me correct the record. Number one.

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Speaker 10: The Trump administration has been clear from day one that

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Speaker 10: any illegal alien present in this country is subject to deportation. However,

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Speaker 10: the priority, of course is going after the convicted criminals,

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Speaker 10: the worst of the worst, the murderers, the pedophiles, the

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Speaker 10: rapists in this country. Interestingly, in the CBS story, what

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Speaker 10: the Democrat talking heads on.

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Speaker 12: Television are not saying is this line.

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Speaker 10: Nearly sixty percent of ICE arrestees over the past year

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Speaker 10: had criminal charges or convictions, and among that population, the

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Speaker 10: majority of the criminal charges or convictions are for nonviolent crimes.

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Speaker 10: Oh well, what are nonviolent crimes.

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Speaker 12: You ask?

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Speaker 10: This has coincided with which DHS has been saying all

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Speaker 10: along that approximately seventy percent of illegal aliens arrested under

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Speaker 10: President Trump have pending criminal charges and or prior convictions.

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Speaker 12: And these so called nonviolent.

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Speaker 11: Crimes drug trafficking, distribution of child porn, burglary, fraud, dui embezzlement,

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Speaker 11: solicitation of a minor, and human smuggling, just.

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Speaker 3: To name a few.

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Speaker 2: And this is why it's silly season. The Left is

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Speaker 2: trying to do anything they can to keep people here

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Speaker 2: illegally from being deported. Why do they want people here illegally. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's about voting. They want to count them in the

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Speaker 2: census so they can be counted and therefore they can

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Speaker 2: get their apportionment so they can have control in the House.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's everything. They want them to be able to vote

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Speaker 2: so they can win local elections.

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Speaker 3: That's it. They want power. They don't care about the law.

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Speaker 3: They're liars.

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Speaker 2: And this got us into a conversation between Rand Paul

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Speaker 2: and Katie Kuric and I don't normally do this, but

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Speaker 2: I'm taking a look at time. Stay right there, I'll

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Speaker 2: bring you that when we come back. Keep it here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz. Today I

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Speaker 2: was discussing the silly season that was taking place with

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Speaker 2: the political left when it comes to immigration.

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Speaker 3: And customs enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Look at the people that they're picking up, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: only fourteen percent of them are guilty of violent crimes.

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Speaker 2: With what you consider a violent crime and what Americans

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Speaker 2: would consider a violent crime are two very different things.

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Speaker 3: And dear Lord, the things that you're willing to.

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Speaker 2: Accept, the spin that you'll engage in to try and

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Speaker 2: protect the legal immigrants over citizens, don't you know you're

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Speaker 2: gross because America has spoken Republicans, Conservatives, independence, moderates, the

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Speaker 2: politically agnostic. They think you're freaking gross, and they think

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Speaker 2: you're weird cause you are. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: good to be with you. And then I came across

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Speaker 2: a good example of this, Katie Kirk speaking with Senator

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Speaker 2: Rand Paul. Now, I don't think there's any cursing in

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Speaker 2: this producer landing, but just in case, Katie Kirk goes

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Speaker 2: on a vendor, a finger on the dumb button.

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Speaker 3: Okay, excellent.

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Speaker 13: Less than fourteen percent of nearly four hundred thousand immigrants

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Speaker 13: arrested by Ice and President Trump's first year back in

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Speaker 13: the White House the charges or convictions for violent criminal offenses,

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Speaker 13: according to an eternal Department of Homeland Security document obtained

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Speaker 13: by CBS News.

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Speaker 12: So isn't all this.

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Speaker 13: Talk about ridding the country of violent criminals a massive

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Speaker 13: overstatement if less than fourteen percent again, of the four

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Speaker 13: hundred thousand immigrants being arrested are had charges or convictions

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Speaker 13: for violent criminal offenses.

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Speaker 3: I told you this is the silly season. This is

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Speaker 3: the silly spin on this story.

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Speaker 2: They want to they don't know what a violent defense

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Speaker 2: is but they want to use the CBS report and

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Speaker 2: they're all CBS shows that's there for it's a total failure.

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Speaker 3: Senator Rand Paul, would you please.

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Speaker 14: Well, I think the facts make a difference. And so

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Speaker 14: that's one of the questions we will ask. And so

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Speaker 14: when you come to Minneapolis, if they have a policy

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Speaker 14: that says, oh, we're not going to turn over from

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Speaker 14: our jails nonviolent prisoners, people who are I don't know

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Speaker 14: why you're in prison, if you're not in violent, but

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Speaker 14: maybe you have a drug crime that's a.

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Speaker 12: Non violut I think violent people.

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Speaker 7: But the thing is is that's not their policy. Their

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Speaker 7: policy is we will turn no one over. So you

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Speaker 7: can be.

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Speaker 14: You beat somebody half to death, you get an assault charge,

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Speaker 14: and you're in jail for a couple of years, and

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Speaker 14: somehow you're getting out on parole and you're not going

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Speaker 14: to be turned over and you're illegal. I've got a

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Speaker 14: problem with that, and so do probably most Independents and Democrats.

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Speaker 14: But that's what we have to ascertain. And the thing

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Speaker 14: is is that's not the policy of mayor Prime. He

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Speaker 14: did not come forward and say we're not going to

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Speaker 14: turnover non violent prisoners.

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Speaker 7: He just simply said, we're not going to cooperate at all.

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Speaker 14: And if you do cooperate, and this is Ellison's edict

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Speaker 14: to them, it's actually against they'll offer you to cooperate.

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Speaker 14: So if you happen to have a Republican county and

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Speaker 14: a Republican judge who wants to turn over people in

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Speaker 14: jail once their term.

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Speaker 7: Is expired to be deported, they've actually made that illegal.

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Speaker 14: And so we should have a debate in our country

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Speaker 14: whether that's advisable.

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Speaker 7: And I think most people in the middle.

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Speaker 14: I think most people actually hate what the use of

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Speaker 14: force that they saw with Alexander pretty but I think

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Speaker 14: if you ask him if a guy's committed rape and

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Speaker 14: he's in prison and he's going to get out, do

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Speaker 14: you want him to report it? I think people would say, hell, yes,

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Speaker 14: he ought to be.

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Speaker 2: Deported, absolutely, one hundred percent. But Senator Paul goes a

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Speaker 2: little further.

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Speaker 13: He is one of them, the fourteen percent, such a

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Speaker 13: low percentage of four hundred thousand people.

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Speaker 14: You're if your broad could be well, if you're if

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Speaker 14: your daughter gets raped by the guy that gets back out,

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Speaker 14: and he's one of the fourteen percent, I don't think

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Speaker 14: you're and a quibble about whether it's fourteen or sixty four.

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Speaker 2: And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you put Katie

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Speaker 2: Kurrik in her place. How you explained to the left

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Speaker 2: that your argument is bunk, that going and arresting the

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Speaker 2: people who are here legally is a value and something

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Speaker 2: we should continue to do. And if only fourteen percent

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Speaker 2: are involved in rape, I would like to see those

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Speaker 2: people out of the country. Please, Why are you the

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Speaker 2: political left trying to protect them?

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Speaker 3: That's center Ran Paul for the Win.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I don't agree with everything, but that was how

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Speaker 2: you answer. What's the future of Howard Letnik, Commerce Secretary?

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Speaker 2: This all has to do with Jeffrey Epstein. Oh and

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Speaker 2: the clown show.

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Speaker 3: That was Pam Bondi in front of the House Judiciary.

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Speaker 2: Everybody keep it here. This is Tony got.

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Speaker 1: Line from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 12: The Epstein files.

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Speaker 15: More than five hundred attorneys and reviewers spent thousands of

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Speaker 15: hours painstakingly reviewing millions of pages.

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Speaker 12: To comply with Congress's law.

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Speaker 15: We've released more than three million pages, including one hundred

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Speaker 15: and eighty thousand images all to the public while doing

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Speaker 15: our very best in the time frame allotted by the

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Speaker 15: legislation to protect victims.

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Speaker 12: And if you brought us a victim's.

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Speaker 15: Name that was inadvertently released, we immediately redacted it. All

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Speaker 15: members of Congress, as you know, are invited to visit

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Speaker 15: DOJ to see for yourselves. I want to take a

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Speaker 15: moment to acknowledge the Epstein survivors who are here today.

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Speaker 15: I'm a career prosecutor and despite what the ranking member said,

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Speaker 15: I have spent my entire career fighting for victims.

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Speaker 12: And I will continue to do so.

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Speaker 15: I am deeply sorry for what any victim, any victim

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Speaker 15: has been through, especially as a result of that monster.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think that she truly feels that way. I don't

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Speaker 2: think that she's saying it. This is the Attorney General,

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Speaker 2: Pam BONDI for the sake of saying it. I think

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Speaker 2: that after this opening statement, everything for her fell apart.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you,

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Speaker 2: and I should say that the same thing is true

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Speaker 2: regarding the Democrats that when you get to the actual

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Speaker 2: hearing that took place in front of the House Judiciary hearing,

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Speaker 2: that took place today. I was just saying it took

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Speaker 2: place front of the House Judiciary. Just call it what

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Speaker 2: it is, the House Judiciary hearing. It just got into

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Speaker 2: the silly season. Everything was an attack. Everything was a

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Speaker 2: screaming match. Everything was You're a terrible, No, you're terrible. No,

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Speaker 2: you're a monster. No you did this? Oh your mother.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just this.

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Speaker 3: Is Pam Bondi and Representative Ted lew.

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Speaker 16: Hence Andrew Donald Trump a tender various parties with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 16: I want to know whether any underage girls at that

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Speaker 16: party or at any party that Trump attended with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 12: This is so ridiculous and that they are.

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Speaker 15: Trying to deflect from all the great things Donald Trump

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Speaker 15: has done.

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Speaker 12: There is no evidence that.

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Speaker 15: Donald Trump has committed a crime. Everyone knows that this

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Speaker 15: has been the most transparent presidency.

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Speaker 12: He's the one that those five got your answer evidence, legislation.

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Speaker 12: This is time belongs to the gentleman from California.

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Speaker 2: If you're to be the attorney general, you have to

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Speaker 2: do it much better than that. We get it. The

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Speaker 2: American Left does not care at all at all or

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Speaker 2: in any way about what happened to these girls. They

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Speaker 2: only care about how they can go after Trump. We

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Speaker 2: get it, We see them, and that's what you have

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Speaker 2: to be telling. That's the story that you have to present.

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Speaker 2: Look at who.

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Speaker 3: These people are, not Pam Bondy.

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Speaker 2: Pam Bondy can't figure out how to keep enough composure

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Speaker 2: to be able to provide the story as is. This

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Speaker 2: was Pam Bondy. I forget who asked this question. She's

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Speaker 2: asked about how come nobody who is a client of

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Speaker 2: Epstein has been indicted?

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Speaker 3: That was the question.

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Speaker 15: Dao, the dow right now is over. The dow is

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Speaker 15: over fifty thousand dollars. I don't know why you're laughing.

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Speaker 15: You're a great stock trader. As I hear raskin, the

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Speaker 15: doo is over fifty thousand right now, the S and

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Speaker 15: P at almost seven thousand, and the nasdaqs smashing records.

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Speaker 15: Americans four oh one k's and retirement savings are booming.

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Speaker 15: That's what we should be talking about. We should be

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Speaker 15: talking about making Americans safe.

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Speaker 2: We should be.

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Speaker 12: Talking about what does a dal have to do with anything?

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Speaker 17: That's what they just ask, Are you kiddy, h Stop

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Speaker 17: thinking that she's good at this.

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Speaker 2: Stop thinking that Democrats have any argument that involves actually

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Speaker 2: caring about kids who were abused and these adult survivors today,

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Speaker 2: and how we find the people who engage in this

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Speaker 2: abuse and actually get them arrested. It's just out of control.

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Speaker 2: If you ask Tony, how would you describe how she sounds?

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Speaker 2: She sounds like a teenage girl who's upset she didn't

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Speaker 2: get tickets to see Taylor Swift. Tony, that's sexist. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: kiss off, don't care. That's how she sounds. She almost

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Speaker 2: said the dow was up over fifty thousand dollars. That

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Speaker 2: is someone who is flustered. That is not somebody who

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Speaker 2: is in control of any argument. You show up in

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Speaker 2: front of the House Judiciary, a committee and she and

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Speaker 2: you're ill prepared. I do not believe that she's rightly upset,

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Speaker 2: or maybe said differently, let's say she is rightly upset,

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Speaker 2: What does that matter to me?

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Speaker 3: Handle yourself? Handling yourself.

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Speaker 2: And it's just a mess. And there were moments in

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Speaker 2: the opening, and I'll share the opening coming up where

660
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: I thought she hit something wrong, and then she hit

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Speaker 2: something beautifully. It was composed and it was focused. It

662
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: was like, yes, that's the way it works. But I

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Speaker 2: don't want this to be all about Pam Bondy. You

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Speaker 2: think these Democrats actually care. I don't think these democrats

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00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 2: care at all or in any way. It is how

666
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: do I attack Trump? How can I more attack Trump?

667
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 2: Every day?

668
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Speaker 3: Let us attack Trump.

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Speaker 2: We should be about everybody involved in the Epstein files

670
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Speaker 2: who was actually connected to engaging in violence and attacks

671
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: and being a sexual predator towards children. That's it, that's it,

672
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: That's what we should be connected to. That's what we

673
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: should be focused on, regardless of political party, regardless of

674
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: last name, regardless of status, regardless of money. The end,

675
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: this all Trump all the time. Thing says Democrats don't

676
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: care about children being abused, And I want to make

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Speaker 2: sure I'm clear about this. Democrats don't give a damn

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Speaker 2: about children being abused. I've said this about Representative of

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00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: Costio Cortez. Trump is president the first term. There she

680
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: is at the border, she's wearing all white. She's there

681
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: by a fence, and she's crying. The fence is nowhere

682
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: near the border. You could walk right around the fence.

683
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: There were no children in the area. It was a

684
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: staged photo op from a staged person, the Kami loving

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Speaker 2: Alexandria A.

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Speaker 3: Cassio Cortez.

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Speaker 2: Oh please, you think I care what she says about me?

688
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: Do you have any more dresses that you can borrow

689
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Speaker 2: from people to go to met galas where you didn't

690
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: buy the tickets and you were getting influenced and we

691
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: see you, we see you. Did you spend any time

692
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: fixing your abuela's apartments? Just curious, curious if you cared

693
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: at all about how she was dealing with things. Not

694
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Speaker 2: a fan, not a fan. She doesn't care about children.

695
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: She goes and takes pictures when Trump is in office.

696
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: When Biden's off in office, she doesn't take any pictures,

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Speaker 2: So therefore it was a photo op.

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Speaker 3: I have said it before, I'll set it again. I'll

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Speaker 3: say it now.

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Speaker 2: Alexandria Cassi Cortez does not give a damn about black

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Speaker 2: or brown children. She doesn't care. She doesn't care now,

702
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: she never cared before. She isn't going to care in

703
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Speaker 2: my view in the future. She doesn't care what happens

704
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Speaker 2: to brown children. Alexandria Cassi Cortez doesn't care about anything

705
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Speaker 2: except what kind of play she can make for the

706
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: press to get her a cup.

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Speaker 3: More likes and a couple more, don't the end.

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Speaker 2: This brings us to Howard Lutnik, the Commerce Secretary, who admitted.

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Speaker 3: In his testimony yesterday.

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Speaker 2: That he visited Jeffrey Epstein on his private islands in

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Speaker 2: twenty twelve. Now to understand Howard Lutnik and Canter Fitzgerald,

712
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Speaker 2: where he comes from and the money and what happened

713
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: September eleventh where his office was murdered, but he wasn't

714
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Speaker 2: there and he lived. It's an insane story, but it

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Speaker 2: has to be understood that Jeffrey Epstein had a lot

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Speaker 2: of connections with a lot of people all over the place.

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Speaker 3: After Jeffrey Epstein was released from prison.

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Speaker 2: In Florida, he was there in his New York townhouse

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Speaker 2: at a dinner that was attended by if I have

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Speaker 2: it right in just some of the names, George Stephanopolis

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Speaker 2: and Chelsea Handler.

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Speaker 3: He had friends, he had relationships.

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Speaker 2: He was seen as this huge money guy and all

724
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Speaker 2: this philanthropic effort. It doesn't mean that any of those

725
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Speaker 2: people knew what he was doing. Got to keep that

726
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: in mind, but he was already in jail for some

727
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: really salacious stuff, and you were still hanging out with him,

728
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Speaker 2: and that's pretty weird. Howard Lutnick made the claim over

729
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Speaker 2: the years that he didn't have any personal relationship with him.

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Speaker 2: Lutnick said that he had searched his name through the

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Speaker 2: files released by the Justice Department, and among the millions

732
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Speaker 2: of pages found about ten emails connecting him with Epstein

733
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Speaker 2: over a fourteen year period, and he said, I didn't

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Speaker 2: look through the documents with any fair whatsoever because I

735
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Speaker 2: know my wife knows that I've done absolutely nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: in any possible regard. And he wrote and he stated,

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Speaker 2: I did not have any personal relationship with him. Rob, sorry,

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Speaker 2: I did not have any relationship with him. I barely

739
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Speaker 2: had anything to do with that person. Okay, question mark, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So that's what Lutnick said. Senator Van Holland, who I

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Speaker 2: find it terrible from Maryland Senator Appropriations Committee asked if

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Speaker 2: Lutnick would share his own personal records related to Epstein,

743
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Speaker 2: and Lutnick said, yes, I would do that. I would

744
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Speaker 2: absolutely do that. And then he was asked by Chris

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Speaker 2: van Holland about this what do you want to call it?

746
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Speaker 2: This meeting, this chance encounter, this no, this well arranged

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Speaker 2: meeting on Epstein's island. I think you.

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Speaker 18: Understand the root of concern here. It's the way you

749
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 18: described very emphatically your first encounter with him in his apartment,

750
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Speaker 18: said you were disgusted, would never have any contact with

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Speaker 18: him again. Did you in fact make the visit to

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Speaker 18: Jeffrey Epstein's private island.

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Speaker 19: I did have lunch with him, as I was on

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Speaker 19: a boat going across on a family vacation. My wife

755
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Speaker 19: was with me, as were my four children and nanny's.

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Speaker 19: I had another couple they were there as well with

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Speaker 19: their children, and we had lunch on the island. That

758
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 19: is true, for an hour, and we left with all

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Speaker 19: of my children, with my nannies and my wife all

760
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Speaker 19: together on family vacation. We were not a part to

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Speaker 19: suggest there was anything untoward about that. In twenty twelve,

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Speaker 19: I don't recall why we did it by.

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Speaker 2: Visial secretary again, I want to say for the record

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Speaker 2: that there should be no accusation of anything untoward. The

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Speaker 2: issue here is you were there. The issue is a

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Speaker 2: timeline issue of when you were not engaged with him,

767
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Speaker 2: Claiming you were not engaged with him, claiming you didn't

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Speaker 2: have connections to him, but on a family vacation, you

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Speaker 2: stopped by. Now again, I brought up Canter Fitzgerald for

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Speaker 2: a reason. The money is massive. He was either his

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Speaker 2: yacht or they chartered a yacht. He's there with a family.

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Speaker 2: Of course, there's nanny's and they docked up and they

773
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Speaker 2: had some comforters together.

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Speaker 3: Were you already telling.

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Speaker 2: People that you didn't want anything to do with him

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Speaker 2: while you stopped by? You didn't want to have any

777
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: public relationship with him, but you want to make sure

778
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Speaker 2: he adds some connection to him just in case.

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Speaker 20: This.

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Speaker 2: Howard Lutnik may not like it, but this absolutely goes

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Speaker 2: to a conversation of character, and it goes to the

782
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: kind of thing where it is certainly possible. And I'm

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00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: willing to bet money probable that you didn't engage in

784
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Speaker 2: anything that we're discussing here, the abuse, the sexual abuse

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Speaker 2: of children.

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Speaker 3: I'm willing to say that out loud. I don't think

787
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Speaker 3: he did that in the slightest.

788
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Speaker 2: But were you telling people you had nothing to do

789
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Speaker 2: with him while you went to go see him for lunch?

790
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: You stopped There are times where we're on a family vacation.

791
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Speaker 2: My wife won't let us to pull over to use

792
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Speaker 2: the bathroom because she wants to make the extra thirty miles.

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00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: You stopped the yacht. Maybe you had more of a

794
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 2: relationship than you're saying. Certainly, it's an argument that people

795
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: can make. And I have absolutely no idea at this

796
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 2: moment if he is going to survive in the Trump administration. Man,

797
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 2: is it a bad look, a very bad look based

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Speaker 2: on his own words. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today. So you might have seen this from Boomerasia

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Speaker 2: Sin I'm assuming producer Landon you did.

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Speaker 3: About the jock tax.

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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic, and they asked me why I am not

803
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Speaker 2: a progressive?

804
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Speaker 3: Well, allow me to explain. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good to be with you. The

806
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: story is about Sam Darnald, the quarterback for the Seattle

807
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: Seahawks and of course winning the Super Bowl, a guy

808
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: who everybody you know, counted out, they gave up on,

809
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: but he didn't give up on him. Actually, an incredibly

810
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: inspirational story is Sam Donald. And so what got noticed

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Speaker 2: is that in California they have what can be called

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Speaker 2: the jock tax. And this this jock tax, what happens

813
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: here is is that you get charged taxed for playing

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Speaker 2: in a professional sport in that state.

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Speaker 3: So you play for the.

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Speaker 2: New York Jets, ha ha, and you play they play

817
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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: You're getting taxed in California.

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00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: So the and the Patriots were taxed in California.

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Speaker 3: It's assessed taxes on.

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Speaker 2: Players based on a number of days they spent playing

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Speaker 2: or practicing or practicing in a given jurisdiction. So, according

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Speaker 2: to the collective Bargaining Agreement of the NFL, if you

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, you get one hundred and seventy

825
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars. If you lose, you get one hundred

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Speaker 2: and three thousand. So when you take a look at

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Speaker 2: what happened with the taxes, you get a take home

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Speaker 2: pay on the winning side of approximately eighty six thousand,

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Speaker 2: and on the losing side you get a take home

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Speaker 2: of forty nine thousand, eight hundred. But when you take

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Speaker 2: a look at what happened with Sam Darnold, what you

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Speaker 2: to realize is that because of the time he spent

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Speaker 2: there working there, the entire salary involved, he won one

834
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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy eight thousand dollars, but he owes them

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Speaker 2: two hundred.

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Speaker 3: And forty nine thousand.

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Speaker 2: Now it's a little bit of a manipulation because he

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Speaker 2: has a salary and other things, and of course he

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Speaker 2: got paid in other ways. But he owes California to

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty grand for the pleasure of playing

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Speaker 2: in California.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't play in California. There should be no Super

843
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Speaker 3: Bowls in California?

844
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Speaker 2: Are we all nuts? These democrats really love your money.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. So this took place last night.

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Speaker 2: The story really broke this morning, a very strange story

847
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: which has since resolved, which has led to more of

848
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Speaker 2: the story being strange. And if you follow me on

849
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 2: the Twitter ex at Tony Katz, you will see people saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe any part of this at all, Tony Kats.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today, good to be here, Good to be

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Speaker 2: with you, and then I'll have three more things.

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Speaker 3: To get to.

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Speaker 2: But last night, al Paso, Texas, al Paso International Airport,

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Speaker 2: which is I think it was four miles from the border.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: The FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration, halted all flights in

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Speaker 2: and out of El Paso. Well, that's weird. It wasn't

859
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,959
Speaker 2: some issue with airlines or with the computers. No, no, no.

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00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: The FAA ordered a total halt, not only two flights

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Speaker 2: and out of the al Paso Airport, but within ten

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00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: nautical miles of the airport. No commercial flights, no cargo flights,

863
00:56:54,840 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: no aviation at all, which means no private planes, no lessons, nothing,

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Speaker 2: No aviation would also mean no drones and the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: As we learn more about it. They started by saying

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Speaker 2: it was unspecified security reasons. Okay, well, now I've got questions.

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Speaker 2: You shut down airspace. What in the world has happened? Well,

868
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Speaker 2: the mind could wander, and the mind did wander. Was

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: this some level of terrorist threat? Was this about trying

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Speaker 2: to prevent people there, maybe a crime and maybe preventing

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Speaker 2: people from being able to leave the area. Was this

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Speaker 2: terrorist related us? Was this viral?

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Speaker 3: Listen?

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00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: Were the people just got out of COVID. Were they

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Speaker 2: trying to keep people from coming in or from leaving

876
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: to keep a spread from happening. It could have been nothing,

877
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 2: And I was discussing this in my morning. You're like,

878
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: it could be all these things or nothing. So I'm

879
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: not gonna speculate. I don't know we're going to get

880
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: more information. We then learn less than twenty four hours

881
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: later that the FAA has lifted the flight district restriction.

882
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: The flight restriction it's itself a tfr IS it's called,

883
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: would have allowed for the takedown of hostile aircraft by

884
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: military force.

885
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting.

886
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: This is the first shutting down of airspace since September eleventh,

887
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: two thousand and one.

888
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: It gets lifted this morning. It got lifted this morning.

889
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: The Trump administration telling Fox News that it came in

890
00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: response to Mexican cartel drones that breached US airspace. Thus,

891
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: the FAA made the move to ground everything. This was

892
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: supposed to last ten days. Mexican cartel drones breached US airspace.

893
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: The Department of War took action to disable the drones.

894
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: So what was happening there? I think it was Fort

895
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: Bliss military was saying, is they could not guarantee commercial

896
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: aircraft safety. They continued. The FAA and the Department of

897
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: War have determined there is no threat to commercial travel. Now,

898
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: if you follow me on Twitter x at Tony Kains,

899
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: I posted about this and you will find.

900
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: You will find.

901
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: That the vast majority of people don't believe it.

902
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: At all.

903
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: The shutdown went from ten days to basically twelve hours.

904
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: This is about Mexican drones. I'm not a conspiratorial guy.

905
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm a guy who is asking a different question. You

906
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: telling me that the cartels can send drones to the

907
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: United States shut down airspace, and our answer is, oh, well, I.

908
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 3: Don't like that answer.

909
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: Guys. I think that answer is ridiculous. I think that

910
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: answer is madness. I think that answer is weak, and

911
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in weak answers. I put forth to

912
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: you that if Mexico can't control the cartels, then the

913
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: actions of the cartels are an act of war and

914
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: we should respond accordingly.

915
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 3: Oh great, there goes Tony.

916
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: Now he wants to go to war, and he wants

917
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: to send other people's kids into battle. I want to

918
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: push the Mexican border back ten miles and create a DMZ.

919
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, were you not ready for this conversation?

920
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: For all the people who like to cluck from the

921
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: back row, now's your.

922
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 3: Chance to engage.

923
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: We should accept, as the United States of America, that

924
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: we can be disrupted in our travel, or we can

925
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: be put into a place of fear because a cartel

926
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: is flying drones around. I think we should have dead

927
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: cartel members by the thousands. I mean, listen, if you

928
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: want to deal drugs in Mexico and sell drugs in

929
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: Mexico and do your thing in Mexico, I don't live

930
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: in Mexico. If that's what they're willing to accept, who

931
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: am I to get in the way. But you want

932
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: to disrupt someone from going to visit their grandpa, I

933
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 2: think we should kick you directly in the face till

934
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: you fall down and die. I don't understand what I

935
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: said wrong. How is it possible that my position is wrong.

936
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: I don't think they should be drug dealers. I think

937
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: we should be helpful to Mexico and trying to deal

938
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: with the problem. I think we've got a serious problem

939
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: with drugs coming across the border, and I think that

940
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: we've done a good job of working on it.

941
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: We have to continue to do a better job of

942
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 3: working on it.

943
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: I think we're absolutely correct to take out the drug

944
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 2: boats coming from Venezuela or anywhere else. You bring fentanyl,

945
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: you should expect to learn how to speak with fish,

946
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: because you're about to sink. This is what I believe

947
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: that we are allowed to protect our nation, and we

948
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: are allowed to say that our kids are more important

949
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: than your kids. If you're gonna send drugs in ways

950
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: to kill our kids towards our kids, our kids matter more.

951
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: But what in the world is this with the cartels

952
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: thinking they can send drones and somehow Mexico doesn't have

953
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: to pay the price. Now, someone suggested in the chat room,

954
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: they give up five miles, We give up five miles,

955
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: we get a ten mile gap. You fill it with

956
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 2: minds and stuff of a DMC like you would have

957
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: between North Korea and South Korea. Allow me to say

958
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: it differently. I'm not giving up anything because I'm not

959
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: sending drones in to disrupt the air travel of Mexico.

960
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: They're allowing it to happen to us, And I argue,

961
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: it's an act of war. So we take the ten miles,

962
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: just take it, and then we raise every house and

963
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: every apartment building, and every farm and every development, and

964
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: we make those ten miles uninhabitable except for the roads

965
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: that we patrol to ensure that the trade between two

966
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: great countries can continue. But I'm not going to give

967
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: the cartelis a second to breathe. I don't give a

968
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: damn about these people. And I'm fully aware that they

969
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: could see this video and decide, okay, they're coming after me.

970
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: But they can decide that about anybody anytime.

971
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 3: It's user them.

972
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: I choose us. I don't understand how anybody couldn't And

973
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 2: I don't understand the idea of somehow we're just supposed

974
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: to take this and oh, well, that's the way it is.

975
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: What the hell is that that's the way it is? Now,

976
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 2: if I was really the kind of man I should be,

977
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: we take fifty miles.

978
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 14: But.

979
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 3: Oh a, I'm a softie.

980
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 2: We have a chat room on the live stream, and

981
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: someone disagrees and thinks that's the stupidest idea ten miles?

982
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: And then what another ten miles? If that's what it takes,

983
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: If they don't learn from the first ten miles, if

984
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: Mexico doesn't do something about the drug trade and the

985
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: cartels going after American citizens, and they wrote, why not

986
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: take a thousand miles? Now we're talking. You see, you're

987
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: more of a man than I am. Ten miles? Ten?

988
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 3: What was I thinking?

989
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 2: This guy wants to take a thousand that's the way

990
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: it's done, that's how you do it. Now we're cooking

991
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: with gas. I want the madness to stop, and I

992
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: don't want Americans bothered. I want to be left alone.

993
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: I have said this before, and it's kind of crude,

994
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: but it's very, very true. All I want to do

995
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: is eat a steak, smoke cigars, and have sex with

996
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: my wife. And sometimes I'm not in the mood for

997
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 2: a steak. That's all I want in this world. And

998
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: I have got cartels sending drones into United States airspace

999
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 2: and preventing people from traveling, so I can't get what

1000
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 2: I want. I find that to be offensive. I was

1001
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: promised life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and I'm

1002
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: not able to pursue my happiness because I've got cartel

1003
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: drones coming my way. So I gotta do something about

1004
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: the drones.

1005
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: And I offered up a solution.

1006
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: Now I ask all the chattering freaks in the back row,

1007
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: what's your plan? Take the crap get abused. I think

1008
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: that's a ridiculous plan. I think that's a terrible plan.

1009
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: I don't think we should go with that plan. My

1010
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: plan is proactive, and it forces Mexico to handle their

1011
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: own damn business. Somebody tell Claudia to get the job done.

1012
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: But if you don't understand how this is a problem

1013
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: for all of us in the United States, that Americans

1014
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: do not get abused, that I am indeed a believer

1015
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 2: of packs americanas that I one thousand percent believe that

1016
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: what happens in Alpaso, happens in Tulsa, happens in Fargo,

1017
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 2: happens in Indianapolis, happens in Boston, happens to all of us.

1018
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 2: That if you allow carts tell us to do this once,

1019
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: what makes you think they won't do it again. I

1020
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: am tired of weakness, and I am tired of weak people,

1021
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: and I'm tired of weak responses to groups that want

1022
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 2: to do us harm. So let's stop having them do

1023
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: us harm. All I'm doing is offering up an idea.

1024
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: It's a good one, maybe someone has a better one.

1025
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 2: But taking this from cartels, that's the dumbest idea I

1026
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 2: ever heard. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today.

1027
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: So I've got three more things. These are stories that

1028
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 2: should be top line stories that probably won't be, or

1029
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: at least I find them interesting. Credit card debt is

1030
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: now one point two to eight trillion dollars and that

1031
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: kids is a problem. One point two eight trillion. Eventually

1032
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: people stop paying one point two eight trillion tells us

1033
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: that people don't have the expendable cash that they are

1034
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: surviving on credit.

1035
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 3: This is the ticking time bomb, and.

1036
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: This is what leads people into this conversation regarding the

1037
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: K curve and how you have some people who are

1038
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 2: growing great, right, the rich they're going like this, but

1039
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: some people they're really going at the slower pace that

1040
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: some people are coming down create this K look. But

1041
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: the job's numbers today are unbelievable. They're things that the

1042
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 2: administration can grow about. Costs have come down on a

1043
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: great number of subjects, including gas, and we could take

1044
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,520
Speaker 2: a look at credit card debt also as a trailing indicator,

1045
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: meaning people have been doing this, which Trump could easily

1046
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 2: attribute to the Biden administration. But you still have to

1047
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: deal with the reality that it's one point two a

1048
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 2: trullion and if people don't feel that the jobs are there,

1049
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: the dollars are there, the economy is there. Eventually they

1050
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: say somebody else's problem. It's a really big number and

1051
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 2: a really bad number, and one that.

1052
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 3: Has to be looked at.

1053
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: As for the latest on Nancy Guthrie, the missing mother

1054
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: of Today's show host Savannah Guthrie, a person was detained yesterday, questioned,

1055
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: then released. They released those photos yesterday and people were

1056
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: agreeing with us. By the way, it does look like

1057
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: it's a woman, But then there's a moment that it

1058
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: looks like the person in the ski mask has a mustache.

1059
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 3: You're like, what is actually happening here?

1060
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 2: And then the neighbor's house was looked at and searched

1061
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: and swat was out there and the neighbors were like,

1062
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 2: we didn't do anything. And then a person was detained

1063
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 2: and they were like, they kept me for two hours

1064
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: before they read me my rights.

1065
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know what was happening.

1066
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: Again, I tell you, a lot of these movements could

1067
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: be purposeful, as if you know, they're not giving us

1068
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 2: the full story and it looks it looks foolish, like

1069
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 2: the whole thing looks awkward, like they don't know what

1070
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 2: they're doing, and that could be a way to try

1071
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: and lure the kidnappers and do a false sense of security.

1072
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: What if it isn't kidnappers. You know, I'm not the

1073
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: first person to say and producer Land and I were

1074
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 2: discussing it during the break that you ever see the

1075
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: movie Fargo, is this? That is that? This It's all very,

1076
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 2: very weird. And then there was some data that shows

1077
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: that if you take a look at the Super Bowl

1078
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: halftime show, people still upset about the whole bad bunny thing,

1079
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 2: got to move on, but it shows a dip during

1080
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 2: the halftime. People did not people tuned out during the halftime.

1081
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 3: It was a big crater there.

1082
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: But I do not know if this happens in every

1083
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 2: halftime show. What I do know is that when you

1084
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: have something like this, you could say, Okay, maybe not

1085
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 2: everybody does the halftime show and this is someone's grandmother.

1086
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: Watching the halftime. It's unbelievable.

1087
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 21: Yeah, okase saying, I mean like, what is this?

1088
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 12: This is ridiculous and not a man of flag. Now

1089
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 12: he's on a flag.

1090
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, God bless you to get off the stave, Please

1091
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Speaker 2: get off the sea.

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Speaker 3: It's so good. More's coming up. I'm Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 22: Or from under penalty of perjury that the testimony you're

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Speaker 22: about to give is true? And correct to the best

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Speaker 22: of your knowledge, information and belief. So help you gout

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Speaker 22: I do. That's the record, show that the witness has

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Speaker 22: answered in the affirmative.

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Speaker 12: Thank you.

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Speaker 22: You can be seated, and please know that your written

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Speaker 22: testimony will be entered into the record, and it's entirely

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Speaker 22: entirely accordingly, we ask that you summarize your testimony.

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Speaker 12: Madame Attorney General, you may be again.

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Speaker 15: Thank you, Thank you Chairman Jordan, ranking Member Raskin, and

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Speaker 15: distinguished members of this committee.

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Speaker 12: Thank you for hosting me here today.

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Speaker 15: I'm grateful for the opportunity to answer your questions.

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Speaker 12: Highlight the work of our department.

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Speaker 15: And discuss the most important topic of all, keeping the

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Speaker 15: American people safe. A little over a year ago, I

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Speaker 15: was sworn into office as an eighty seventh Attorney General

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Speaker 15: of the United States. I came into office with the

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Speaker 15: goal of refocusing the Department of Justice on its core

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01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 15: mission after years of bloated bureaucracy and political weaponization. The

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Speaker 15: Department of Justice's core mission is to fight violent crime,

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Speaker 15: protect the American people, and defend the rule of law

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Speaker 15: above all else. While our work is never done, we

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Speaker 15: have made tremendous progress to make America safe again. In

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Speaker 15: twenty twenty five, we saw the lowest murder rate in

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Speaker 15: one hundred and twenty five years. That's nothing short of historic.

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Speaker 15: If you compare twenty five to twenty.

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Speaker 12: Four, here's what you'll find.

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Speaker 15: The murder rate is down twenty one percent, robbery down

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Speaker 15: twenty three percent, carjacking down forty three percent, gun assault

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01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 15: down twenty two percent, agasault, burglary, could go on and on.

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Speaker 15: Crime is declining. This did not happen by accident. The

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Speaker 15: numbers tell an important, yet straightforward story. President Trump has

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Speaker 15: given us the resources, the support, and the leadership to

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Speaker 15: protect the American people. President Trump's policies have saved lives.

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Speaker 15: I cannot think of a policy outcome more important than

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Speaker 15: protecting the lives of American citizens.

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Speaker 2: Can you, Well, I don't know if they're going to

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Speaker 2: answer you, ag BONDI. But again, in every single instance

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01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 2: of Pam Bondy, it's just too much. Trump did this

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: and Trump did that. Hit it once and move on.

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Speaker 2: Always talk about the American people. I'm arguing that it's

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Speaker 2: a bad presentation, not bad data.

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Speaker 3: It's great data. Violent crime is down, and I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I was talking about this about Axios, that Axios has

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Speaker 2: a story about violent crime plummets across major US cities. Okay, Orlando,

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01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 2: Florida down fifty eight point three percent, Tampa down fifty

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01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: two point eight percent, Denver's down forty seven percent. Baltimore

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01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: is down thirty one point four percent. That's incredible news

1145
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: and you should be talking about it. Trump did this.

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01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: Trump did that. Trump to the stop, we did this.

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01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: We did that. We being America by voting for smart policy,

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01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: by engaging law enforcement to do the job, by not

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: getting in their way, but by supporting them, by following

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01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: the law. That's how you get more people to your side.

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01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: Because the other side of this coin is the anti

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01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 2: Trump nonsense. Just like they wrote in the headline Axios

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01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 2: and this again the headline, violent crime plummets across major cities.

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01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: What did they write on Twitter? X Crime plunges in

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Speaker 2: major cities despite Trump's crackdown rhetoric. You mean actually cracking

1156
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 2: down on crime. It's not rhetoric. There's actual action taking place.

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01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: The action is everything. Despite his rhetoric, crime is down.

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01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 2: How do you think it got there? And now you

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01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: can have the argument because Trump said we had enough

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01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: of this because the American people said, we've had enough

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01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: of this, and then we let law enforcement do their

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01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: job within the confines of the law. It's a much

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01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: more uplifting message. It's a much more valuable message. It

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01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: empowers people. You've empowered people, and now they want to

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01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: empower you to do more. You can't make it all

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01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: Trump all the time because it plays like idol worship,

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01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 2: especially when Pam Bondi says it and that dog won't hunt.

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01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying she's terrible at this. Every time she talks,

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Speaker 2: you realize that the South Park got have got her pegged.

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01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: It's on her ten thousand percent. But back to the

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01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 2: hearing in front of the House Judiciary Committee.

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Speaker 15: Trend has been especially clear in Washington, d c.

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Speaker 12: And in Memphis.

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01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 15: These are two iconic American cities that spent years in

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Speaker 15: the grip of horrific violent crime.

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01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 12: The Department of Justice surged law.

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Speaker 15: Enforcement resources and the results came quickly. Crime plummeted in

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Speaker 15: both cities. And I want to make one point loud

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Speaker 15: and clear. We achieved those results by working with democratic mayors.

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01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 15: Public safety does not have a party registration. When your

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01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 15: constituents call nine one one, they don't ask for political

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01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 15: views of the responding officer.

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01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 12: They ask for help.

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01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 15: I have federal agents in each and every one of

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Speaker 15: your districts.

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01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 12: They're here to help, and I am here to help.

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01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 15: Many cities and states have worked with us and taken

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Speaker 15: advantage of our federal support.

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Speaker 12: Some have not.

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Speaker 15: Meanwhile, a few elected officials have declared that they are

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01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 15: quote at war with the federal government and encouraged widespread

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Speaker 15: obstruction of law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: This is great. You can feel the difference. When we

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01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: work together, we get great things. And hear these people

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01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 2: working against us when all we want to do is

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Speaker 2: make the streets safer.

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Speaker 3: They're at war with us.

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Speaker 2: We don't care. No one cares about the political nonsense.

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Speaker 2: They want the crime stop. And we're happy to work

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Speaker 2: with these people, and we're happy to support these people.

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Speaker 2: We're happy to engage. And do you feel you?

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Speaker 3: Just feel it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, if she goes with that, that's

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Speaker 2: the win. And you might say to me, hey, Tony,

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Speaker 2: you're really kind of parsing here. I reject that. I

1206
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: think this. I would turn it back towards you if

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Speaker 2: you were saying that and say no.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I think you should really pay attention to this.

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Speaker 2: This is about This is about the influence, This is

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01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: about the winning. This is about the how you really

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01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: connect people and get people on your side that they

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01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: can recognize that they don't have to listen to the

1213
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 2: political clap trap you're trying to help.

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Speaker 3: You're with them because you believe it's about them. When

1215
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 3: you say Trump tup tup tup, tup tup, Trump to.

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01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: Trump, you believe it's about idle worship. Stay away from that,

1217
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 2: and what you have is the opportunity to reach people

1218
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: where they are. If someone is so overloaded with Trump

1219
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 2: bad I'm not saying that you should agree with them.

1220
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: Of course they're they're being ridiculous. But as you make

1221
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: it more and more about President Trump, you take away

1222
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 2: from them less and less opportunity to find a way

1223
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Speaker 2: to work with you, to agree with you, to find

1224
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 2: value in you. But if you make it about them,

1225
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: and you make it about these policies, and you make

1226
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 2: it about working together and look at these people who

1227
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: won't work together, my gosh, how terrible, then they could say, yeah,

1228
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: that is wrong, we should be working together, and it

1229
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 2: takes them out of that anti headspace. I've argued this

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Speaker 2: in many, many different ways, and here is.

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Speaker 3: One of them. When I am.

1232
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Speaker 2: Engaged in a debate with somebody, let's say it's I

1233
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: try not to do it with the trolls, and sometimes

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01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 2: I fail at the task. If I'm in a debate

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Speaker 2: with somebody, in argument with somebody, I understand, and I

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Speaker 2: hope you understand because this is true of you, that

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01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: that is not the person you're talking to, which is

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01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: a weird thing to think, but follow me. If I

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01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 2: and person X are having a debate about name the subject,

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Speaker 2: I'm not actually discussing person X. I'm not talking to

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01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 2: person X. I'm talking to everybody who's listening to me.

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Speaker 2: Talk to person X. That's the person I'm trying to

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01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: bring over. That's the person I'm trying to convince. That's

1244
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: the person I'm trying to engage a thought with.

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Speaker 3: Person X.

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01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 2: Their politics is their identity, so they cannot be swayed

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01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 2: from their position because it's how they exist. If they

1248
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 2: were to agree that, well maybe this, or well maybe that,

1249
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: then how do they exist? They have to rethink their

1250
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,839
Speaker 2: whole existence, so they are really dug in. They can't

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01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 2: be swayed because they can't lose face. The person watching observing,

1252
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 2: they don't have any skin in the game, they have

1253
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 2: no emotion in the game.

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Speaker 3: So they are now these.

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Speaker 2: Observers, and even if they feel a certain way, they're

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Speaker 2: still observers, and therefore they are open to more, receptive

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01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: to more. And through the way you engage, the way

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01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: you communicate, the way you respond, the way you process,

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01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 2: you can connect with those people. And they may never

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Speaker 2: admit it, but there it is. That's my argument, and

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Speaker 2: that's what Pambondi needs to do. That's what the administration

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01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: needs to do. And Pambondi does a terrible job, but

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Speaker 2: that right there was great more of that.

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Speaker 15: This has resulted in avoidable clashes on a street.

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Speaker 12: Since you've all seen we've seen rioters storming a Christian church.

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Speaker 15: Citizens and law enforcement officers have both been endangered by

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01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 15: reckless rhetoric. We have made dozens of arrest in and

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Speaker 15: around Minneapolis so far, and many of them could have

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Speaker 15: been avoided by simple compliance with federal law. Of course,

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Speaker 15: our efforts reach beyond our urban centers. We are striking

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Speaker 15: crucial blows against terrorist organizations such as MS thirteen, TDA,

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Speaker 15: the Sinaloa Cartel, and Antifa, and as we sit here.

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Speaker 12: I think you've seen the news this morning.

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Speaker 15: But the news is reporting the cartel drones are being

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Speaker 15: shot down by our military.

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Speaker 12: That's what we all should care about right now.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate this is that El Paso story. So the El

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Speaker 2: Paso airport was shut down yesterday, El Paso International Airport.

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01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 2: You know, you're right near the border of Mexico. They

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01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: shut it down ten nautical miles. It actually reached into

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01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 2: a part of New Mexico. But they didn't say why.

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01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: No traffic in, no traffic out, no air traffic for

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Speaker 2: commercial vehicles, cargo vehicles, in general aviation. You're like, what

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01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 2: in the bloody world is that all about? And the

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01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 2: mind can race. Was it the cartels? Was there a virus,

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01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: was there a threat? Was there a terrorst cell? You

1287
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 2: can go in every which direction. I was talking about

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01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: this on my morning show and I said, here's the problem,

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Speaker 2: because we don't have any other information because we didn't

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Speaker 2: at the time. Well, and people are going to go

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Speaker 2: in all sorts of directions. This could be nothing, could

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Speaker 2: be something, and what do we learn. We learned that

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Speaker 2: it was indeed cartel drones in the area, and the

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Speaker 2: military said, we don't have the ability right now to

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Speaker 2: guarantee a commercial aircraft safety. We can't do that, so

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Speaker 2: we have to shut down the airport. And then they

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Speaker 2: announced say the airport's back open because they were able

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Speaker 2: to disable the drones that breached you US airspace.

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Speaker 3: Now, if I'm being asked, I don't know about you.

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Speaker 2: You may see it differently than me. It's an act

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Speaker 2: of war, and we need to put Mexico on notice.

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Speaker 3: Mexico might disagree.

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Speaker 2: I don't care active war. I want to have all

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Speaker 2: the authority right now to be able to breach into

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Speaker 2: Mexico ten miles and create our own DMZ. That's the

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Speaker 2: answer I want. I don't want to hear it. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to hear it from Mexico. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to hear what they're upset about. I don't want to

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01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: hear about their sovereignty. These cartels are gonna learn.

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Speaker 3: Am I the only one who thinks like this?

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Speaker 2: There's no way you know what I'm saying. No, there's

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01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: no way I'm the only one who thinks like this.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, absolutely not. So Pambondi makes her opening statement,

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Speaker 2: and then you know as well as I do, people

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Speaker 2: aren't gonna be concerned in the house about safety and

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Speaker 2: security and all the rest.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be all Epstein all the time. I'll share

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Speaker 3: that with you.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony kats dot com. So you have

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Speaker 2: nine dead, twenty five injured in the shooting that took

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Speaker 2: place in Canada. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today Tumblr Ridge

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Speaker 2: Secondary School in British Columbia, the second deadliest school shooting

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Speaker 2: in Canadian history. It's ugly stuff. Six people killed, twenty

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01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 2: five injured at the school, An additional victim died on

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Speaker 2: the way to the hospital, and two more people were

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01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: found dead at a nearby home they think connected to

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Speaker 2: this attack.

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01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:17,839
Speaker 3: This is horrifying stuff.

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01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 2: The story that they are desperate to at first and

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01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 2: not tell, and then they wanted to act like, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is all totally normal. Is that the killer was

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Speaker 2: trans a man who thought they were a woman, a

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Speaker 2: boy who.

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Speaker 3: Thought they were a girl.

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Speaker 2: However, you want to describe the situation so much so

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01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 2: that there's even you know, those in law enforcement who

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01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: were answering questions and were then correcting reporters on the

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01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 2: idea of you know it wasn't a gunman. It was

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01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 2: a gun person. I'm sorry what you said. Gunman? No, No,

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01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 2: not a gunman, a gun person, a gun person. Do

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01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 2: you know how broken you have to be to say

1343
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: those words? The expression in and of itself would be

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01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 2: gunmen gun person. We really are a truly broken society, now,

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01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 2: aren't we.

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Speaker 3: We can't simply say gunman.

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01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: We can't recognize that this is somebody who had a

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01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 2: serious mental illness because they thought themselves a woman when

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01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 2: they were not. And how about all those adults who

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01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 2: are not only totally fine with this, who proactively and

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01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: aggressively support it, not only support confusing children, but support

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01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 2: the mutilation of children through something called gender affirming care,

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01:27:55,160 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 2: which is absolutely child's abuse. Apologize for saying it. I'm

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Speaker 2: never going to stop saying it. They didn't want us

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Speaker 2: to note that when this kid was seventeen twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: as is reported, began to identify as a woman. According

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Speaker 2: to some sources, grew up around firearms. Family was a

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Speaker 2: family that had firearms. Not the issue, not the issue

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Speaker 2: at all. Lots of people grow up around firearms. The

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Speaker 2: issue is the mental illness. Let's say so. Let us

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Speaker 2: honestly address the situation and let's not stop.

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Speaker 3: Does this happen.

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Speaker 2: In a society that does not proactively try to confuse

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Speaker 2: use kids, that proactively doesn't work to mutilate children, that

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01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 2: proactively doesn't feed in to mental illness, but rather says, no,

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Speaker 2: we don't do this here. We help those with mental illness,

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Speaker 2: We care for those with mental illness. We do what

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Speaker 2: we can to prevent these things from happening. And it

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01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 2: starts with honesty. One cannot have compassion if one does

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01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 2: not have honesty. And I put forth to you that

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Speaker 2: these people are not compassionate. They're not compassionate people. They're

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Speaker 2: violent people. I think that there are.

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Speaker 20: For sure parents out there who have children who are confused,

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Speaker 20: who have been confused all the rest, and they're trying

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01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 20: to figure out what to do, and if they have

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Speaker 20: been told by.

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Speaker 2: Their doctor, a medical doctor, and by a psychologists or

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01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 2: psychiatrist r this is.

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Speaker 3: The best thing to do.

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Speaker 2: This is what this means. I have a hard time

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01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 2: holding them any level of personally responsible. I have a

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01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: hard time going at them, attacking them all the rest.

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01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: I don't have anger with them. How difficult this all

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01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 2: must be, just absolutely positively brutal, brutal. How do you

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01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 2: manage this, organize this your thoughts. You're just trying to

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Speaker 2: keep your kid healthy, stay connected to your kid. Never

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Speaker 2: mind all those states that have legislation that wants to

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01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 2: take your child away from you, and you're just trying

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01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 2: to hold on for dear life. They're not somebody at

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01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 2: my eyre towards parents and adults who are proactive and saying,

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01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 2: oh yeah, no, mutilation that's the way to go. Here

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01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: are puberty blockers, that's the way to go. Basically, chemical castration,

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01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 2: that's the way to go. There aren't enough jails for

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01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 2: these people. Feeding into mental illness brings more mental illness,

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01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 2: and this is what leads to horror. We're gonna learn

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01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 2: more about this shooting in Canada, and of course they're

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01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 2: gonna be will left to tell us. We can't talk

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01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 2: about it because it's only gonna lead to problems for

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01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 2: this community the mentally ill. No, it might lead to help,

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01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 2: and if it leads to help, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: It should help us.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, mister Chairman.

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Speaker 21: Good morning, Attorney General BONDI right here We are joined

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Speaker 21: in this room by some of the thousands of survivors

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01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 21: from Jeffrey Epstein's horrific sex trafficking ring. They have shown

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01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 21: such incredible courage in speaking out, in demanding accountability to

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01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 21: bring the predators and pedophiles to justice. The Epstein Files

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01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 21: Transparency Act required your Department of Justice to disclose the

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01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 21: perpetrators connected with Epstein's criminal activities and to redact the

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01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 21: information of survivors to protect their identities. Let me show

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01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 21: you what actually happened. First, in violation of the law,

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01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 21: your department has shown a pattern of redacting the names

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01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 21: of powerful predators. Here behind me is one example of

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01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 21: an email from Epstein to a man whose name was redacted.

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01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 21: The email reads quote, where are you? Are you okay?

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Speaker 21: I loved the torture video. Only after members of Congress

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01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 21: demanded that we see the unredacted files did the world

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01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 21: learn the name of this individual. Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayam,

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01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 21: the chairman and CEO of a company that had financial

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01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:15,879
Speaker 21: ties to President Trump's business and personal ties to Trump's

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Speaker 21: advisor Steve Bannon.

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Speaker 2: Now, first things first, I don't quite understand the person

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01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 2: who writes in an email I loved the torture video.

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01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 2: I feel good that I don't understand that person Tony Katz,

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01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 2: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: Good to be here, Good to be with you. Second thing.

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Speaker 2: Second, I can't believe that I could find myself in

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01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 2: a place agreeing with Promila Jaiapaul. Yet here we are.

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01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 2: Why in the world was that a redacted name? How

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01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 2: does that work? Now? I am somebody who believes, and

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01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 2: I've stated before that we should not move forward with

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01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 2: the release of the Epstein files until we have redacted

1434
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 2: the names of those people who have done absolutely nothing wrong.

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01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 3: Did I say, hello, Tony Katz, Tony Kats.

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01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 2: Today, I forget my name is Tony Kats to show

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01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 2: is Tony Kats today? I didn't want the names of

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01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 2: victims being listed. And certainly there are plenty people who

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01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 2: are gonna be connected to Epstein or I have known

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01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 2: Epstein and had a conversation with Epstein, who did absolutely

1441
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:25,520
Speaker 2: nothing wrong. And as I said, when it comes to Pambody,

1442
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 2: the Attorney General, this is absolutely going to be the

1443
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 2: stuff now every this is gonna be the stuff that

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01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 2: the left talks about. Everything that Promila Jaia Paul, who

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01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,799
Speaker 2: used to lead the Progressive Caucus in the House. Everything

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01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 2: she says about Trump, don't care. Trump's been cleared. The

1447
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 2: data shows it. No one has shown any connection at

1448
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 2: all to Trump and Epstein and the abuse of young women.

1449
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 2: The abuse of children just hasn't been shown. They know

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01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 2: each other absolutely. So to Bill Clinton, you.

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01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 3: Just say, you can't just say one and not the other.

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01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't have anything that shows me that Bill Clinton

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01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 2: was on the island.

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01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 4: There's some weird massage photos that people have questions about

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01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 4: the fact that Jeffrey Epstein had in his house a

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01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 4: painting of Bill Clinton with his legs draped over the

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01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,440
Speaker 4: arm of a chair, pointing at the viewer.

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01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 2: While wearing the Monica Lewinsky blue dress. It's painting, right.

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Speaker 2: He didn't model it.

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Speaker 3: He didn't.

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01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he modeled it. Wait did he model it?

1462
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna assume he didn't model it.

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01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 3: He didn't model wearing the dress.

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01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 2: But Epstein had this, that's a way closer relationship that

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01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 2: he had with Donald Trump. But Donald Trump is on

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01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 2: record going back to two thousand and six calling this

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01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 2: guy a creep, calling Julane Maxwell, who procured these young

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01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 2: women and put them in slavery in my view, calling

1469
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 2: her evil, saying you got to investigate. Thank goodness, you're

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01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 2: on this. Years later. He's so on the record here

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01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 2: and someone noted something which is very true. Whether he

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01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 2: meant to do it this way or not, I don't know.

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01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:11,879
Speaker 2: They said, good on President Trump for not exculpating himself

1474
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 2: to exculpate, to clear from a charge or imputation, a

1475
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 2: fault or guilt. Right when you exculpate, you think of

1476
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 2: it for yourself. Oh no, no, I wasn't there. Look here,

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01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 2: I can prove it by not doing that, by letting

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01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 2: these people lose their minds and dig in and dig

1479
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 2: in and dig in.

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01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 3: Here comes the data and oh yeah, Trump did nothing wrong.

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01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 2: And these people look the fool.

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01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 3: These people look the fool.

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01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 2: So you can argue that it was a tremendous amount

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01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 2: of self discipline not to be this person. Now, I

1485
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 2: don't know if he meant to do it that.

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01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 3: Way or not, but that is a bit of the

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01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 3: way it is broken down. So I don't pay any

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01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 3: attention to this Trump stuff.

1489
01:36:58,160 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 3: Steve Bannon, oh, Steve.

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01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: Bannon is in a world of hurt, not because he

1492
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 2: knew Jeffrey Epstein, not because he may have had a

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01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 2: conversation with Jeffrey Epstein. You were working on what was

1494
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 2: documentaries or videos to help him rehabilitate his image. Man,

1495
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 2: you really will do anything for a buck, won't you. Steve,

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01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 2: Now that's not the case. I'm listening the guy you

1497
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 2: called the stock Republican. Oh that's me, Stock Republican, yuts,

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01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm listening.

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01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,799
Speaker 3: Listen. I still have nothing that would.

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01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 2: Tell me, although maybe I haven't read it all yet,

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01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 2: that Steve Bannon was involved in anything would be really

1502
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 2: really ugly. I just think Steve Bannon is a guy

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01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 2: who always played on the edges, and I don't That's

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01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 2: not my guy. And you'll remember, if you've never heard

1505
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 2: me tell this story that when Andrew Breitbart passed away,

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01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 2: I never worked at Breitbart, but I did write. I

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01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 2: did write for Big Journalism when when Michael Walsh was

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01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 2: the editor, when Dane lash was the editor. That's how

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01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 2: actually got to got to know each other. I did

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01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 2: right there, and I traveled in those circles. But I

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01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 2: was never in that circle. He was Los Angeles, Los

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01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 2: Angeles at that time. It sounds so dumb, It sounds

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01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 2: so dumb. It was Andrew, Uh, it was. It was Benchpiro,

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Speaker 2: Larry O'Connor, John Nolty, a whole host a host of

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Speaker 2: people myself like it was. It was a real.

1516
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 3: Incubator for conservative thought, which.

1517
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 2: Sounds so weird, but it was. And what was going

1518
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 2: on with FOA something called Friends of Abe, which was

1519
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 2: a miraculously good time, really fascinating stuff. And and when

1520
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 2: Andrew passed and Steve Bannon took over, I wouldn't write.

1521
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 2: I would not write. I have got all the love

1522
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 2: and respect for Susie Breitbart in the world, in the world,

1523
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 2: and how difficult it must have been, but I wasn't

1524
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 2: gonna write for Breitbart. Bannon was not my guy.

1525
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 3: He wasn't.

1526
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 2: I'm the guy who defended Bannon from people calling him

1527
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 2: an anti Summit. He was never that. But the direction

1528
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: he was going it was not my direction. I had

1529
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 2: said repeatedly, publicly privately. When Bannon's gone, I would have

1530
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 2: be happy to write again. Just wasn't my cat at all?

1531
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 2: Was nice enough, but just the style wasn't wasn't my style.

1532
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't realize how right I was right.

1533
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes you get a good read, sometimes you don't get

1534
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 2: a good read. We've all had the situation where we've

1535
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 2: been duped. But Epstein, I think this was after he

1536
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 2: was already found guilty of a series of things and

1537
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 2: there's a Bannon saying like, let me help rehabilitate you.

1538
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 2: Is that I went down very very messed up. But

1539
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 2: the idea of the conversation here from real Giapaul was

1540
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 2: about why are these people redacted? Now she's doing it

1541
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 2: as an attack on Trump, and this is why it fails.

1542
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 2: It should be about why in the world don't we

1543
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 2: know these names.

1544
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 21: Second, the survivors were not similarly protected, also in violation

1545
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 21: of the law. Here is another email titled Epstein Victim List.

1546
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 21: We have blurred the names of the survivors for their protection,

1547
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 21: but your Department of Justice initially released this list of

1548
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 21: thirty two survivors' names with only one name redacted, along

1549
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:43,480
Speaker 21: with numerous files that disclose not only the names, the emails,

1550
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 21: and the addresses of survivors, but also nude photographs and

1551
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 21: even the identities of Jane Does, who had been protected

1552
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 21: for decades until your department released their names. Survivors are

1553
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 21: now telling us that their family are finding out for

1554
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 21: the first time that they were trafficked by Epstein. In

1555
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 21: their words quote, this release does not provide closure. It

1556
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 21: feels like a deliberate attempt to intimidate survivors, punish those

1557
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 21: who came forward, and reinforce the same culture of secrecy

1558
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 21: that allowed Epstein's crimes to continue for decades.

1559
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 2: Now, I want to get to Pambondi's answer, but I

1560
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,799
Speaker 2: want to say, for the record, this is exactly why

1561
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 2: I said we should not have the discharge petition.

1562
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 3: We should not vote to open up the Epstein files

1563
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 3: like this.

1564
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 2: We should have care in making sure that these names

1565
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 2: weren't out there. That's what we said here. That is

1566
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 2: not what the Democratic Party said. Let's get Trump, Let's

1567
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,919
Speaker 2: get Trump. Let's get Trump. Let's get Trump. Oh everybody

1568
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 2: else be damn, Let's get Trump. Let's get Trump. Let's

1569
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 2: get Trump. And they went forward with Republicans in a

1570
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 2: discharge petition. I'll put it on her.

1571
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 3: But I'm curious to hear pam bondi response to the

1572
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 3: extent that there is one.

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01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 21: To the survivors in the room, if you are willing,

1574
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 21: please stand.

1575
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're wearing the same shirt.

1576
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 21: There's a bunch And if you are willing please raise

1577
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 21: your hands if you have still not been able to

1578
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,679
Speaker 21: meet with this Department of.

1579
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 2: Justice, that's all them raises.

1580
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 21: Know for the record that every single thriv has raised

1581
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 21: their hand.

1582
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 12: Attorney General BONDI.

1583
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 21: You apologize to the survivors and your opening statement for

1584
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 21: what they went through at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein.

1585
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 21: Will you turn to them now and apologize for what

1586
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 21: your Department of Justice has put them through with the

1587
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 21: un absolutely unacceptable release of the Epstein files and their information.

1588
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 12: Congresswoman, you set before Merrick Garland sat in this chair twice.

1589
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 12: Attorney General on I'm going to finish my answer.

1590
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 21: No, I'm going to reclaim my time because I asked

1591
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:21,919
Speaker 21: you to generalcific question that I would like question to answer,

1592
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 21: which is, will you turn to the survivors.

1593
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 12: This is not about anybody that came before you.

1594
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 21: It is about you taking responsibility for your Department of

1595
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 21: Justice and the harm that it has done to the

1596
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 21: survivors who are standing right behind you and are waiting

1597
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 21: for you to turn to them and apologize for what

1598
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 21: your Department of Justice.

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01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 2: Numbers now, I want to say that this is some

1600
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 2: ugly and cheap stuff. It's ugly and cheap because as

1601
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 2: I described, the discharge petition.

1602
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 3: Didn't take enough care. And that's on you, uh, Pameila Giapaul.

1603
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 2: But if things were supposed to be covered names through

1604
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 2: ADACTA and they weren't, that's a problem, and you put

1605
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 2: yourself in this position. My problem is this is all

1606
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 2: made for TV. I don't think Pamela Giapaul cares at all.

1607
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 2: This is about the struggle session. This is this is.

1608
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 3: About how can I turn this into political victory.

1609
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 2: I do not believe that Promeila Giapaul gives a damn

1610
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 2: about these women. In the slightest names of victims should

1611
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 2: not have been released.

1612
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 22: What happens next, Members get to ask the questions, the

1613
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,640
Speaker 22: witness gets to answer in the way they want to answer.

1614
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 21: That that's not accurate, mister chairman, because she doesn't like

1615
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:47,799
Speaker 21: the answer.

1616
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:53,560
Speaker 12: So, mister chairman, why I have asked? She asked generic Garland.

1617
01:44:53,560 --> 01:45:02,560
Speaker 12: This I reclaiming getting the gutter for her theatrics.

1618
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 22: The time belongs to the time belongs to the general lady.

1619
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:06,639
Speaker 22: The general lady has seventeen seconds.

1620
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 12: Thank you.

1621
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 21: You're not going to answer this question, so let me

1622
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 21: just pair man.

1623
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 12: I'll direct it.

1624
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,520
Speaker 3: What a massive quill.

1625
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: You restore her time, then.

1626
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 2: That's fine, fantastic, terrific, wonderful. It's serious stuff. By the way,

1627
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 2: I'm with you. This is why people hate politics. This

1628
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 2: is why it's just such crap. We have women being

1629
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 2: trafficked and raped and here we have this. What kind

1630
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 2: of show can we put on? It's it's why people

1631
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 2: throw up their hands and stop caring, and then they

1632
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 2: stop voting, and then what do we get? We get

1633
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 2: bad things. And that's the hardest part. The hardest part

1634
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 2: is you can't stop caring. You got to keep at it.

1635
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 2: It was tougher for these women. It should be about

1636
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 2: them who abused them and how we bring those people

1637
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 2: to justice. That has to be the focus. I'm Tony Katz.

1638
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. There's more that could be

1639
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 2: shared from Pam Bondi's testimony.

1640
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 3: I mean there is, and it.

1641
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 2: Got as ridiculous as you thought it would. It never

1642
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,799
Speaker 2: ever ever stopped. You know, I was talking earlier about

1643
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 2: how this is why people hate politics, is why they

1644
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 2: give up. That's why they forget voting for it everything,

1645
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 2: forget these people.

1646
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 3: I mean, this is exactly why.

1647
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 12: The President said the time along time.

1648
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 7: We will give you a few more seconds.

1649
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:55,719
Speaker 12: We will do that. But when you ask a questions,

1650
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 12: you may not like the answer, but she it's too.

1651
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:00,879
Speaker 3: Question was how many of they don't.

1652
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 12: Like the answer? Chairman time? Because it's honest? So he

1653
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 12: asked for question.

1654
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 2: The store you can let her feel about for all

1655
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 2: day long, but not on our watch. Good gosh. Oh,

1656
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 2: and you better believe it gets worse from there. But

1657
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 2: you know, on these Epstein files the person that we

1658
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:28,600
Speaker 2: have to further dig in with is Howard Lutnick, the

1659
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 2: Commerce Secretary, whom I don't I don't see how things

1660
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 2: progress with him from here. It's one thing to have

1661
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 2: said I had run ins with Jeffrey Epstein, which everybody

1662
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 2: within a certain financial number did, right, But then I

1663
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 2: stayed away from him and then admit, oh, yeah, I

1664
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 2: was on vacation with my family on my boat and

1665
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 2: we stopped at his island and.

1666
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 3: Had lunch with him, me, my.

1667
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:58,759
Speaker 2: Family, the kids, the nannies, some friends. Honestly, I don't

1668
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 2: know how how Lutnik keeps going after that revelation, truly,

1669
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 2: And I will get into more explanation. Why find everything

1670
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com tomorrow?

1671
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:10,759
Speaker 3: Everyone take care,