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Speaker 2: He's the longtime voice of the Hoosiers on both ends.

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Speaker 2: His name's Don Fisher and he joins is on the

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Speaker 2: Java House Peel and Poor Guest line Java House dot

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Speaker 2: Com munsees code Jake twenty five for twenty five percent

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Speaker 1: Fish is great to talk with you. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, Derek? How about yourself?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, kind of like riding a bike.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to fill in here every couple of months

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Speaker 2: be back on the sports radio again. But let's talk football.

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Speaker 2: Let's start there. You know, a bit of a lethargic

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Speaker 4: No question about that. Obviously, Indiana did not play whome

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Speaker 3: Away, no question about that.

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Speaker 4: And you're going to have a game like that every

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Speaker 4: I think a big part of that is because they've

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Speaker 4: But they're a beat up football team right now, and

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Speaker 4: they've played some very tough competition. And I will tell

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Speaker 4: you one thing. If Wisconsin didn't do anything else on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm glad that you said that about the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just makes Indiana look like the average good team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean, No, no question.

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Speaker 2: Don Fisher, the voice of Value football and Basketball, joins

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Speaker 2: us on the Java House Peel and poor guest line.

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Speaker 2: Four more touchdowns and a sparkling twenty two of twenty

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Speaker 2: But how big of a deal is it, Don? For

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Speaker 3: But the most important thing right now.

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Speaker 4: Is that he's Indiana's quarterback and he is available for

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Speaker 1: And there's just very much like a one.

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Speaker 4: That is absolutely true. And this kid's a great leader.

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Speaker 4: He talks, He talks constantly to his teammates about how

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Speaker 4: There is no question about that. He was that guy

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Speaker 2: Let's shift over to basketball too. Hoo's yours undefeated. They're

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Speaker 4: This team plays together. They play as hard as anybody

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Speaker 1: Far las Senor.

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Speaker 2: FISHING i apologize if you've covered this, already BECAUSE i

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Speaker 2: of course The louisville. Game would you double dip and

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Speaker 4: For the, year so HOPEFULLY i don't get another one of,

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Speaker 3: Not we'll just have to wait and. See it's kind

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Speaker 3: Show thanks for having, Me, Derek glad to have you

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Speaker 2: MAN i found out that you were the regular guests,

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Speaker 2: Big, time big. Time do you take a breather when

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Speaker 5: Grove finally we've gotten the point That i've Always i've

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Speaker 2: Time, YEAH i did like six hours of leaves myself.

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Speaker 5: For denver to you cheer For Kansas city because you

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00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 5: want to Get denver a loss or you want to

438
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 5: Get Kansas city lost or where they're further're batting. Down, so,

439
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 5: yeah things could have gone much much. Better it. Didn't

440
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 5: this is just a case of at eight and, two

441
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 5: we just Had Michael pittman on the zoom and as

442
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 5: much as they've done dating, too they've still got to finish.

443
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,120
Speaker 5: This and what yesterday showed you is At jacksonville And

444
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 5: houston are not going to go away and at the very.

445
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 5: Least at the very, least they've got to split the

446
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 5: division games to close the. Sea so then it'd be

447
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 5: really great to sweep one of these two, Teams houston And.

448
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 5: JACKSONVILLE i until they Beat jacksonville In. JACKSONVILLE i don't

449
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 5: think they can Beat jacksonville In. Jacksonville so but it's,

450
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 5: therefore but they're gonna hit to. Finish they've got like

451
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 5: a ninety three percent chance to make in the, playoffs

452
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 5: And i'm old enough to remember in twenty twenty one

453
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 5: they had like ninety eight percent chance with two games

454
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 5: to goo and ninety nine chants to Beat jacksonville and get.

455
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 5: In So i'm not buying into that. Yet but what they've,

456
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 5: done they've put themselves in a great, position but down The.

457
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 2: Sinnish, yeah and not only the great, position but like

458
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,479
Speaker 2: as much as we talk, about oh, well yesterday's results went,

459
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: Poorly i'm not going to say That i'm an expert

460
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: necessarily on all these other. Teams i'm not just obsessing

461
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: over what everyone else is. Doing but at the same,

462
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 2: time from What i've watched Of New england And denver

463
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: and even some of the teams in THE, nfc as.

464
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 2: WELL i think this is a year chap where everyone

465
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: kind of looks flawed right.

466
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: There there are No. Juggernauts there are a bunch of.

467
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: TEAMS i don't know if The cults are, great BUT

468
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: i can firmly say that they're very. Good AND i

469
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: think that they're surrounded by very good. Teams LIKE i

470
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,959
Speaker 2: don't see anything that gives me an indication that The

471
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: colts can't make a run.

472
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 5: Well because again you want to, think, well, Boyd buffalo's

473
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 5: got their act together after, yesterday but but there were

474
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 5: a couple of duds that they lost In miami for crane. Outlines,

475
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 5: yeah so, yeah and everyone who thinks that what the

476
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 5: trade's going to be this great powerhouse Or Green bay

477
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 5: and that's not the. Case and in THE afc or

478
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 5: in THE, afc no one's really stepped up that they

479
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 5: really have it In New. ENGLAND i, guess, yes, Yes

480
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 5: but all of a, sudden you, know THE Afc east

481
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 5: isn't all that. Strong and With, denver, well this team kind, of,

482
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 5: yes they lucked out to Beat. Denver they, did let's

483
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 5: not get past. That but they beat them and then

484
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 5: but things even. Out they should have beaten The rams

485
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 5: who might be the best team in the league right.

486
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 5: Now so that's this is the perfect. Year this is

487
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 5: the perfect storm type of. Thing we're you're playing really,

488
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 5: Well you've got a running back that's just playing historically,

489
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 5: well and no one's really you, know, well you can't

490
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 5: beat These, YEAH i don't know why you. Can't like you,

491
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 5: said so this is the. Year and again it gets really.

492
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 5: Tough i'm right about that tomorrow On fox fifty, NINE cbs.

493
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 5: FOUR i guess today later, Today but you've got to

494
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 5: take your. Business but at least what they've done again

495
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 5: is themselves a really good position moving. Forward why can't

496
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 5: they win In Kansas? CITY i mean they did With

497
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 5: Jacoby brissett in whatever it was twenty nineteen wherever it

498
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 5: wasnteen so and, gosh they beat The chiefs here in

499
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, two you, know and we all want to

500
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 5: forget that. Season so, yeah they're in a good. Position

501
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 5: but they've got to come out playing, well and that

502
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 5: means cutting down the turnovers By. Jones and it's just

503
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 5: to see how Far Jonathan taylor can carry this.

504
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 2: Team not that it means anything For, sunday but If

505
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: i'm not, mistaken The cults are the only team That

506
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: Patrick mahomes has never.

507
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: Defeated correct he beat him in the.

508
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 5: Playoffs, oh that's.

509
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: Right in the regular. SEASON i guess that would be

510
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i was a divisional round in. Eighteen they ended

511
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: up beating. Him, yeah that's, right, Right, yeah but, yeah.

512
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 5: He's going to. It and he couldn't beat him when

513
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 5: everybody when everybody was beating him in twenty twenty. Two so,

514
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 5: yeah it's what you have to do in although they

515
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 5: didn't do it In, pittsburgh which which is a, bummer

516
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 5: which makes me wonder can they get by In. Jacksonville

517
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 5: but once you get, passed well we're going Into Arrowhead,

518
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 5: Stadium oh my, God, mahomes you get past. That you,

519
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 5: know if there is an awe factor in THE, nfl

520
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 5: which there really shouldn't be there just shouldn't, be you

521
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 5: get past that and you rely on what you've. Done,

522
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 5: Again i've Always i've taken the approach with this team

523
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 5: is that it should be. Sustainable as long as the

524
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 5: protection is better than what it's been the last two.

525
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 5: Games we not done anything crazy off the, charts, until of,

526
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 5: course the Until taylor goes for two forty four In.

527
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 5: Berlin but it's been a really good running. Game it's

528
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 5: been an efficient passing. Game spread the ball. Around they

529
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 5: might they might have one receiver get a thousand yards,

530
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 5: maybe and That's Tyler. Warren but the defense has been.

531
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 5: Okay it should get much better with With mooney And Sauz.

532
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 5: Gardner now you're going to have to compensate for no

533
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 5: Divorce buckner for a. While BUT i like the way

534
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 5: they're playing because they're just sort of going out and

535
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 5: doing what they do with Occasionally Jonathan taylor doing a

536
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 5: really crazy stupid.

537
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: Stuff, yeah you Mentioned.

538
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: Buckner how concerned are You chap about that absence because

539
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: we know that he's not going to come. BACK i

540
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: think until at the earliest it would be The seattle,

541
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: game and if there's a sort of a prolonged absence,

542
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: THERE i, mean he's just such a lynchpin of that

543
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: defense and a key to what they do both on

544
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: and off the.

545
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 5: Field what you always kind of look at is what's

546
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: the drop off between this guy and his? Backup and

547
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 5: it's a Mens that's Why i've taken the approach THAT

548
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 5: i think the quarterback is THE mvp of a team

549
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 5: because the drop off From Daniel jones To Rydy leonard is.

550
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 5: Immense and that's not to say they wouldn't Miss. Taylor

551
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 5: they would. Immensely BUT i think they can sort of

552
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 5: find a way to have a somewhat effective run. Game

553
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 5: but With, buckner we'll. See he posted last week on

554
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 5: social media they went To panamall for that stem cell transfusions,

555
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 5: injections whatever you want to call. It he did that

556
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 5: last year and missed five four or five games with

557
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 5: a high ankle and came back and played. Well so

558
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 5: whenever you see Nick, man it just gives you. Pause but,

559
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 5: yeah they can't play along without him because they never

560
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 5: have and they don't have the people to support. Him

561
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 5: but you, know would you rather Have buckner or these two.

562
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 5: Corners i'd probably really have one of the corners In,

563
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 5: buckner but that's what they have to. Do and getting

564
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 5: two elite corners at the same, time if ward clear

565
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 5: concussion will be. HUGE i can't think of the last

566
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 5: time if they had two corners like, THIS i really.

567
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 5: Can't Uh so, again but the defense needs to play.

568
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 5: Better law two's gotta be, better, finishing, gritty he's gotta

569
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 5: kick his game. Up and but, yeah Missing buck's gonna

570
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 5: be a, while and again it's at least three, games

571
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 5: and then we'll See.

572
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: Mike, chappell The dean Of colts. Coverage you can read

573
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: him and check him Out fox fifty, NINE cbs four

574
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: as well as The Colts Blue zone. Podcast he's our

575
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,480
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576
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577
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Speaker 2: five percent off your purchase. Chap you know you Mentioned

578
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: taylor earlier in this historic season that he's, having especially

579
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: with really what we've seen is kind of uneven quarterback.

580
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: Play you, KNOW i go to The Rams seahawks, GAME

581
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: i think is a great, example you, know in dartled

582
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: and Staf, effort and those are two guys that have

583
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: sort of been in THE mvp. Discussion and then you've

584
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: Got Drake may with The. Patriots but nobody's really blowing you,

585
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: away even though it's become, queerly it's become a quarterback.

586
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: Award do you think there's a legitimate chance For taylor

587
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: to actually be a SERIOUS mvp threat if he keeps

588
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: putting up historic numbers just because there doesn't appear to

589
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: be anybody that's really kind of taken the baton and

590
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: running with this.

591
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 5: Thing, yeah IF i had this sort of handicap and

592
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 5: Now i'd Say stafford's, Won i'd Put taylor, too and

593
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 5: Then Drake may. THREE i. GUESS i guess In. DARNOLD i,

594
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 5: mean it just shows you, that you, know was it

595
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 5: for poor? Turnoverhere c if the nation or media rose

596
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: sim like they Did Daniel jones the last couple of. Weeks,

597
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 5: yeah it's just what the last running back Was Adrian

598
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 5: peterson in twenty. Twelve BUT i was looking at some

599
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 5: stats and right Now taylor has outrushed outrushed like thirteen.

600
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 5: Teams he has more more total touchdowns than three Teams,

601
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 5: tennessee The raiders and The, saints and as many As.

602
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: Cleveland and the only teams that had as many rushing

603
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 5: touchdowns or more Are buffalo and The. Giants so he's

604
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 5: got more rushing tds in like twenty. Nineteens so it's

605
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 5: just WHAT i do remember is in twenty twenty, one

606
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 5: was it when he had eighteen hundred yards and twenty

607
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: touchdowns and he didn't even Get Offensive player of The

608
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: year because Of Cooper Cup in the season he had

609
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 5: so nothing to that. Given but if what he needs

610
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: to do is put those numbers up and say, there

611
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 5: that's not enough for, you THEN i don't know what

612
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 5: to tell. You but if he gets up to the

613
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 5: where he has twenty, five twenty, six twenty seven, TOUCHDOWNS

614
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 5: i think the records thirty one From, tomlinson that's gonna be.

615
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 5: Hard unless one of these quarterbacks and you Know Josh,

616
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 5: allen you know he had six touchdowns yesterday with a

617
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 5: three and. Three if he keeps doing that kind of,

618
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 5: stuff then then with The East coast bias and with

619
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 5: the quarterback, bias he'll get it. Again BUT i want

620
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 5: to See taylor just throw these numbers up there and

621
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 5: again he's only had the one really off the charts great.

622
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 5: Games the rest of them have been mostly really. GOOD

623
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 5: i think he had another one hundred and fifty plus

624
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 5: whatever it.

625
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: Was but if you.

626
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 5: Give him fourteen sixteen eight, carries he's going to break

627
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 5: a couple because that's who he. Is i'd love to

628
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 5: see him put these kind of numbers up and then

629
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 5: say there you. Go now make a case against. Me

630
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 5: and the only way that the case against him succeeds

631
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 5: is is if A Josh, allen you, know continues to do.

632
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 5: This although, Again, Buffalo i'm not. Mistaken are They are

633
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 5: they on the outside of the playoffs right?

634
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: Now they would BE.

635
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 5: I, say like, eighth are They?

636
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah let me let me, look because they're they're obviously

637
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: trailing the page streets in THE Afc.

638
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: East i've got this someone.

639
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: Wild, card no wild? Card they, are well they're.

640
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 5: Six, yeah, okay they're a. Wildcard but, again if this

641
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 5: team wins the, division and you, know maybe more if

642
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: they're a first or second, seed it'd be really hard

643
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 5: to look Past, taylor it really. Would So i'd like

644
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 5: him to have that evidence and, say there you, go you,

645
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: know work against me and see what. Happens but it's

646
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 5: it's an amazing season and he'd love to see it.

647
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 5: Continue and, again The, chiefs they're going to be in

648
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: desperation mode On. Sunday BUT i didn't see anything against

649
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 5: that defense that thinks more just this team can't move the.

650
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 5: BALL i see a defense they can move the ball

651
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 5: on it someone WHICH i will just start With.

652
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Taylor, yeah AND i understand maybe The chiefs are asking

653
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: The colts to come in and Like land the ko

654
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: blow in their. Season because they're clearly kind of wavering

655
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: right now and against The ropes in five and. Five

656
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: But chap to, ME i just think that The, colts

657
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: if they were to go in there and, win given the,

658
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: CIRCUMSTANCES i just think that would really speak volumes About

659
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: there's a lot of what they've shown this year that

660
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: shows that this team is different than the last couple of,

661
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: teams including the team in twenty one that you mentioned

662
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: that collapse. Late but, man that that would speak volumes

663
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: to me if they were to go in there and

664
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: find a way to.

665
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: Win AND i do think there's still a great portion

666
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 5: of national media that isn't buying what they've done because

667
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 5: of some of the teams they beat first, half with

668
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 5: The miamis and The raiders And tennessee and all that.

669
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: Stuff so if that's what it takes perception, wise AND

670
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 5: i don't know IF i pick them or not On

671
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 5: sunday just because of all that will be against, them you,

672
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 5: know desperate teams and a Desperate. Mahomes you know that's

673
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 5: not a good. Combination, Yeah i'll never bet Against, MAHOMES

674
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 5: i don't, think Or Josh, allen BUT i do think

675
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 5: there's a portion of the national media and, says, yeah

676
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: you're eight and, two but show me something. Else and

677
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 5: they've got the possibilities over the next, month you, know

678
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 5: in the more important game will Be houston the next. Week,

679
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 5: yeah division, game and that's the more important. Game but

680
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 5: you could make a major statement against The. Chiefs you

681
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 5: beat The chiefs and all of a, sudden you're the

682
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 5: number one seed. Again you, know the only reason they're

683
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: not the number one seed now is they've they've played

684
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 5: one lass game than The patriots and The. Broncos SO i,

685
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 5: guess LIKE i, said it's all about it's there for.

686
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 5: Him they put themselves in this, position so take advantage of.

687
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: It.

688
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah In, HOUSTON i mean you beat them and then

689
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: suddenly they're off the table pretty much in the division, races,

690
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: right you kind of take.

691
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: It and then you go To jacksonville and AND i don't,

692
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 5: KNOW i mean they've lost to every quarterback in national Down.

693
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: Jacksonville, Yeah i'll never forget The Cody kessler game six,

694
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: nothing when they were in the midst of that huge

695
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: winning streak in twenty.

696
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: Eighteen you, know like.

697
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 5: That that was a good team of a good, offense always.

698
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: Smoked, well what an outlier of that game was six to.

699
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: NOTHING i think is the right one there.

700
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: Last Singer chap and any concerns at all about regression

701
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: for the offensive line that we saw from the previous two,

702
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 2: games you, know The steeers game and The falcons game

703
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: a little bit comparatively speaking to the first. Eight AND

704
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: i think that obviously ties in With Daniel jones as.

705
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 5: Well, YEAH i think there's got to be some. CONCERN i,

706
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 5: mean was it nine sacks in eight games and then

707
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: twelve and. Two, Yeah And i've made the mistake by

708
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 5: saying offensive, line it's pass, protection it's, everybody BECAUSE i

709
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 5: Think taylor gave up a sack on one and they

710
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 5: let the corner come, in you, know. Unabated but the Edges,

711
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: ryan them And bradysmith need to pick their games up

712
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 5: and AND i think it's a concern until they show

713
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 5: that it's not. One and the only way you do

714
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 5: that is to keep Er jones from getting. Pummeled he's

715
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 5: had like eight fumbles this, year leads the, league which

716
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 5: which unfortunately reminds me Of Matt, ryan which was not

717
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 5: a good thing that. Year so but, yeah until for

718
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 5: them to, say, yeah we'll Be, okay, well only if

719
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: you get it. Fixed and the only way you can

720
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 5: fix it is by going out there and change or

721
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 5: whatever you need to, change or just put wise on

722
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 5: schemes or whatever and keep teams from to the again

723
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 5: until they get it. Fixed teams are going to, say

724
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 5: that's your. Weakness that's a weaknesses you've, got and the

725
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 5: only way to remedy that is is to get it.

726
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,680
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733
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734
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,120
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738
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,840
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739
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741
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,640
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742
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747
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748
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Speaker 6: Yeah, SORRY i missed the earlier, appointment But i'm free

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00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 6: to go.

752
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: Now No ah.

753
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: Good you know This pacers.

754
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 2: TEAM i was mentioning To eddie THAT i feel bad

755
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: because we knew this injury situation was going to be

756
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: a tough slog AND i almost feel bad that you,

757
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: know this isn't really a. SITUATION i think that you

758
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: can overly criticize because so much of what's happened to

759
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: The pacers in this one and twelve start has been

760
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 2: just you chalk up to the injury situation and bad,

761
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 2: luck which factors in in. Sports that, SAID i thought

762
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: they were holding up pretty well defensively through the first

763
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: couple of weeks and the bottom's really falling out. Here you,

764
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: know the offense is what it. Is you, know they're missing.

765
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: SHOTS i don't know how much more that you can

766
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: do than just hope some of these shots that they

767
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: normally make go. In but would you like to see

768
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: a better effort at least defensively from. THEM i mean

769
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: some of these, Performances man that things are just really

770
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: getting away from.

771
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 6: Them, yeah, ABSOLUTELY i MEAN i think it's kind of

772
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 6: gotten through the mentally it almost seemed. Hopeless you, know

773
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 6: they had some really good efforts early on and, lost you,

774
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 6: know including in the season opener Against, okasee taking it into.

775
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 6: Overtime BUT i think it's just kind of becoming such a,

776
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 6: burden like what do you got to? Do you, know

777
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 6: and that you know psychologically weighs on the. Team but

778
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 6: still you've got to hang in, there and you Know

779
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 6: bathroom's going to come back. Soon you're getting guys back

780
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 6: to where you'll be a competitive keep at, least so

781
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 6: you just got to regroup and give the. Effort you,

782
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 6: know we haven't seen anything like, this my, goodness throughout their.

783
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 6: HISTORY i, mean this is the worst injury SITUATION i

784
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 6: think they've had in their entire, history and it's bound

785
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 6: to have an. Impact but the defense has not been

786
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 6: what it should, be and the shooting has really been.

787
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 6: PUZZLING i, mean you, Know Ben shepherd can't hit a,

788
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 6: shot and some other guys are shooting very, poorly and

789
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 6: it's just a mystery in a lot of.

790
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: Ways, yeah you Mentioned, shepherd and you look at that

791
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three rookie class with, him and you Throw

792
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: Jaris walker in, there AND i was really hoping that

793
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: with some of these, guys frontline guys going, down that

794
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: would be an opportunity for them to take advantage of

795
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: and play more prominent. Roles and they both, STRUGGLED i,

796
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: mean Especially. SHEPHERD i, Mean shepherd's just had an awful

797
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: season to this.

798
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: Point what's your opinion just kind of moving forward with

799
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: those two guys here in year?

800
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: Three, yeah you, know you, Know walker in particular has

801
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 6: been a surprise to me and a. DISAPPOINTMENT i was

802
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 6: really optimistic about him the first seasons he's. Got he's

803
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: a great. PASSER i mean he makes touch passes that

804
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 6: really hardly anybody else in that team to. Make he

805
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 6: became a forty percent three point shooter last year on,

806
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 6: defense he has a knack for getting his hand on the,

807
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 6: ball deflections and so. Forth so you, KNOW i was

808
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 6: positive about him at the end of last, season and

809
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 6: this year he's shown so. LITTLE i don't know what,

810
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 6: happened because, he like you, said he's got a great

811
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 6: opportunity here to establish himself as a LEGIT nba, player

812
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 6: and he's not doing. It AND i can't imagine what

813
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 6: the problem. Is is he putting too much pressure on

814
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 6: himself or is there something going on behind the scenes

815
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 6: we're not aware. OF i don't, know but he's Not

816
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 6: he's not taking. Advantage And shepherd seems to be just

817
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 6: a matter of, shooting and everybody has a bad shooting game,

818
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 6: occasionally but he's had such a prolonged spot it seems

819
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 6: like it's gotten into his head as. Well so that

820
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 6: make a lot of. Sense you figure lot of averages

821
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 6: water finding this level all those.

822
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: Cluses we.

823
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 6: Hear the shooting will come, around but, man the the

824
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 6: defensive effort has to be there and they just have

825
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 6: to stay locked in as best they. CAN i know

826
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 6: fans are starting to route for a lottery pick looking

827
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 6: at the college players and getting excited about, that and who,

828
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 6: knows maybe long term this will be the best thing

829
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 6: to get another really good player out of. College but

830
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 6: you can't play it that. WAY i, mean if you're a,

831
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 6: player you got to do the best you can each.

832
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 6: Game fans are paying money to see you, play and

833
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 6: guys Like siakam don't want to be on a terrible

834
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 6: team at this stage of his. Career so they just

835
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 6: got to try to bring it back as best they

836
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: can and see what they can make it this.

837
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: Season, yeah and the franchise is going to, tank, RIGHT

838
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: i mean that's never been their mo as far as the.

839
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: Organization but that, Said, mark you, know is there a

840
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: point in the season where if this drags out any,

841
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: LONGER i, mean if suddenly they wake up in they're

842
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: four and, TWENTY i mean you kind of reached the

843
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: point of no return at some point, now.

844
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 6: Yeah no, question no. Question and then you wonder at

845
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 6: that point do you start Sitting Siakam? Moore you, know

846
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 6: do you adjust? Minutes do you Make Jerrace walker play you,

847
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 6: know thirty thirty five minutes a, game that kind of,

848
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 6: thing And shepherd can get just give experience to certain.

849
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 6: Guys you, know there's a WAY i thought a few years,

850
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 6: ago The pacers kind of passively, tanked you, know they

851
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 6: didn't they knew they weren't good enough to make the,

852
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 6: playoffs and they you, know adjust minutes in a way

853
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 6: where they seem to be trying to, win and the

854
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 6: guys who were playing were trying to. Win but it

855
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 6: just seemed to be like the, franchise the front office

856
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 6: was fine with getting a lottery. Pick and it'll get

857
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 6: to that point again real soon if things don't turn.

858
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 6: Around and that's. UNDERSTANDABLE i, mean in THE, nba you've

859
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 6: got to have great players to contend for a. Championship The,

860
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 6: pacers you, know last year did it with some, greatness

861
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 6: with a lot of chemistry and also some good, Luck

862
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 6: frank and you, know so if they can add another

863
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 6: outstanding college player from this next draft long, term that

864
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 6: could be a good. Thing AND i Remember Larry bird

865
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 6: saying once that you, know one year could be forgotten pretty.

866
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 6: Quickly it goes by and people will forget about a

867
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 6: terrible year if you start winning. Again and that's kind

868
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 6: of the best The pacers can hope for right.

869
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: Now, yeah it's kind of the THE i, know the

870
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: golden example here is The spur season where they Missed

871
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: David robinson for all but like five or six, games

872
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: and they were. Terrible they won like twenty, GAMES i,

873
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: think and it was the year That duncan was the one, pick,

874
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: right and then ever since, then you, know they kind

875
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: of they kind of took off after.

876
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 6: That, yep, yep they had our examples like. That that's

877
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 6: a really good. One and The San antonio, fans you,

878
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 6: know forgot real quickly about that one year and they can.

879
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: Happen it happens to another place. Too so it's just

880
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 6: a weird, situation you. Know it seems so almost LIKE i,

881
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 6: MEAN I facers had such a great playoff. Run it's

882
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 6: almost like. Karma but you would have Thought halliburton's injury

883
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 6: was all the badcarma you would have to deal, with you,

884
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 6: know in response to the good fortune you had through the.

885
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 6: Playoffs so it's really a weird. Thing AND i could

886
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 6: imagine That Kevin pritchard and his staff sit around and

887
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 6: wonder what they did to deserve all. This but, again

888
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 6: there's still a lot of games have to be played

889
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 6: and guys will be coming back other Than, halliburton and

890
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 6: they still think need to make the best of it,

891
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 6: again are.

892
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: YOU i don't know if worried is the right, word

893
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: but let's just go with that BECAUSE i can't think

894
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 2: of something. Better you, know just this sort of zapping

895
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: The pacers, momentum you, know the injury situation With, halliburn

896
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: and then you, know suddenly the cults are good, again

897
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: right and you, KNOW i you football is good for

898
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: the second straight, year and it just feels like the

899
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: mind of The indianapolis sports fan can be occupied with

900
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: other things right now in this. Town whereas last year

901
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: they were the you, know they were the toast of

902
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: the town last, SPRING i mean they were. Everywhere The

903
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: pacers were just, omnipresent and now it almost feels, like you,

904
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: know out of, sight out of mind a little. Bit

905
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: not that it's necessarily a competition between all those mark

906
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: but you know WHAT i, Mean you've been in this

907
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: market for a long time and suddenly you have a

908
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: season like this and you're off the, radar and it

909
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: takes that much more to kind of get you back

910
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 2: to where you just were six months.

911
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 6: Ago, yeah they will be off the, radar and that's,

912
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 6: understandable BUT i think in this particular, case they can

913
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 6: get back real. Quick When haliburton comes. Back, yeah you,

914
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 6: know everybody remembers, that and everybody's kind of waiting on.

915
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 6: THAT i think we're learning even more about how essential

916
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 6: he was to the, team just to the, operation to the,

917
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 6: offense to the mood and. Everything SO i think they

918
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 6: can get it back. Quickly even if this season turns

919
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 6: out to be an absolute. Disaster if they get a

920
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 6: college player everybody's excited about And halliburton comes, BACK i

921
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 6: think there would be a lot of enthusiasms going into next.

922
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: Season you can check Out mark work at THE, ibj

923
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: also markmonteeth dot com and At markmonteeth ON x And

924
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: twitter for all the latest and greatest when it comes

925
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: to The. Pacers thanks so, Much, mark appreciate it as

926
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 2: always talking.

927
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: Again soon all, right Thanks.

928
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 6: Jeric thank.

929
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: Here it's our Friend mark monte talking pacers And pacers

930
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: And pistons tonight right on these same. Airwaves as, uh

931
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: they look for win number. Two got just them and

932
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: The wizards down there with one win BECAUSE i saw

933
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: The nets one the other, Night so only two one

934
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Speaker 2: win teams left in THE nba as this season continues for,

935
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Speaker 2: them