1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Right nine o'clock hour here on a Tuesday's quite a 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: busy Monday night of hoops in the college land. You 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: had some big time individual scoring efforts. Number one team 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: in the land, Arizona goes down again, Big one. We've 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: talked about tonight with Purdue and Nebraska and to talk 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: much more about all of it. The former coach of 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: Indiana Hoosiers and a man that went up in the 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: rafters this weekend there and the honoring of the Marquette 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Golden Eagles. He is Tom Crean coach. Thanks for the 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: time this morning. How you doing. 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Great to be with you guys. Thanks 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: for asking. 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. I thought on Saturday afternoon, as 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: a diehard Notre Dame basketball fan, I must admit seeing 15 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 1: some of those faces gave me some very sweaty palms 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: there on Saturday afternoon. It looked like you had a 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: ton of your former players there. 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was I knew it would be great. Obviously, 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: when you're going to get something like that, you're anticipating 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: it to be fantastic, But it was way beyond what 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: I could have imagined. Just the feelings being there. Wife 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: was with me, which was great because she hasn't been 23 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: back very much. So many players were back that In fact, 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: the team that first Big East team twenty years ago 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: won at Notre Dame that year and then Notre Dame 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: went on an incredible home game win streak as you 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: probably remember, sure, and so that team was special. But 28 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: so many guys Travis Steiner, Robert Jackson, Dwayne Wade, flew 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: from LA, flew red eye to Chicago, drove up, came 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: to the game, spent a little time afterwards, flew back 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: to Chicago, or flew back to LA from Chicago that night. 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: Like that is just incredibly meaningful for people to take 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 2: their time like that to be there, and people treated 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: us great and it was an incredible time and we 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,279 Speaker 2: loved every bit of it without a question. 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 3: So, Tom, does it feel like it's been that long 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: like or is it been a little bit of both 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: where you blink one day and you're like, man, that 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: was a different chapter of my life. But also, dang 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: I went I was just coach d Wade and he 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: wasn't retired from the game of basketball. 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: Well, you know where it felt where it felt like 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: it had been a while. When you watch the videos 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: that you want like and like I told my wife, 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: I said, man, we built this and the and the 46 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: crowds got this way, and we had all this attention 47 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: for the team, I said, without social media, like without 48 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: all the different things that you could have back then. 49 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: You know, back then it was really just the message boards, 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, that were the big thing. But no, it 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: doesn't feel that long at all. And what's incredible, not 52 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: only are these guys successful, have their families and so 53 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: proud of their families that like everybody's in shape. We've 54 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 2: got guys that probably way even less now in their 55 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: forties than they did when they were playing, like the level. 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: We still have numerous guys that play every day, and 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: it's just that's so awesome. I mean, they just did 58 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: such a great job of building their life, taking care 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: of their life, and building their families, and it's just 60 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: it's wonderful to see. So, no, it does not seem 61 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: like it was that long ago at all. 62 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: Well it sounds like you know, you evaluating your former players. Hey, 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: all these different rules in college basketball, bring them back. 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: Let's get you back in the saddle. 65 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: Everyone's got eligibility, right, Well, we see it with the 66 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: Charles Batioco situation. They wouldn't let the NBA guys back 67 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: like that. But no, there's most of those guys use 68 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: their eligibility, though Dwayne obviously left early, but most everybody 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: else that we had there, they used their eligibility. But 70 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: we had guys like Dominique Jason Richmond that were on 71 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: those teams. Now he had a game that Saturday night 72 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: back coaching in Tennessee, so he couldn't be there. But 73 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: we had Wesley Matthews, had Jirell McNeil, so many different 74 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: guys that had excellent careers. So no, I'm proud of 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: what they did. So we're not We're not going to 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure somebody would love to see Dwayne Wade come back, 77 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: but I'm not sure that that would be in the car. 78 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: He could probably still go out there and get fifteen 79 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: and ten pretty easy. 80 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: Hell was gonna say Rcia Doom was still around. He's 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: probably got some vivid memories inside of that inside of 82 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: that building. Of course, that voice is Tom Creane. He's 83 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: with us here on the Payleoss Slickers hotline. Coach is 84 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: starting Bloomington last night, And what Lamar Wilkerson did I know? 85 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: Maybe the shooting of Nick Dorn hasn't been as a 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: parent here in recent games. But do you feel like 87 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: Indiana has found a little bit of something with this 88 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: starting lineup change, And obviously Wilkerson quite the flamethrower. 89 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: Well, he gives them another guy that can really shoot 90 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: the ball. I think there's a place for connor Way 91 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: on that team, but he's not the three point shooting 92 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: maker that a guy like Dorn is. And I just think, 93 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: what Lamar Wilkerson, what Tucker debries, what those guys are 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: doing is the ball is continuing to move. They're a 95 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: product of the movement, They're a product of the spacing. 96 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: Lamar Wilkerson is so good at getting a shot, creating 97 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: a shot. And when I did the Gin game or 98 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: Marquett Indiana game back in November, what happens is if 99 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: you're not used to the range of those guys, it 100 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: stunned you. And not everybody has that type of shooting range, obviously, 101 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: and not everybody practices against that type of shooting range. 102 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons that Wisconsin is such a 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 2: good shooting team. But what stands out to me about 104 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: what Indiana's doing is the improvement of guys like Connor enright, 105 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: Sam Alexis, who won a national championship obviously last year 106 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: with Florida, who was a really good player at Chattanooga 107 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: before these guys they attacked your body like they they 108 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: went at Wisconsin. I didn't get to see as much 109 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: last night because I had a game with the Minnesota 110 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: Timberwolves for the for the fan Duel Sports network. I 111 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: do pre and postgame for certain games with Minnesota and 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: and with the Milwaukee Bucks, so I didn't get to 113 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: see it as close. But where where Indiana is usually 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: going to be in good shape is if they don't 115 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: have really strong rim protection on the opponent. If they're 116 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: like there were no block shots last night for Oregon, 117 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: you can attack them inside, you can attack Wisconsin. And 118 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: I just think that that's they have found some different 119 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: ways to defend. They're not getting hurt in the inside 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: play because they can drive it, because they have unique 121 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: ways to score. They've got good footwork around the rim. 122 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: But Lamar Wilkerson to be able to shoot it like 123 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: that and to be able to get the ball so 124 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: many different ways is highly impressive. 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: Let's shift gears a little bit here. Of course, Tom 126 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: Creane with us and it's one of the games of 127 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: the night in college basketball Perdue at Nebraska seven o'clock 128 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: for that one. How much when you talk about Purdue 129 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: in March, coach, how much do you look at no 130 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: Miles Colvin, no cam Heidi, the ability to maybe offer 131 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: a different lineup without you know, the traditional bigs, if 132 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: you will. How much of that do you think could 133 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: be a hindrance to Purdue make a run. 134 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't think offensively. I think offensively they're they're they're 135 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: really really good because Trey Koff Miranda has improved so 136 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: much over time that he can do so many things. 137 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: You can post him and he's and he's just a 138 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: legit score over that left shoulder at the rim. You 139 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: can play him in the pick and roll game, the 140 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: short roll game, and he can operate out of that, 141 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: or he can throw it for a lob dunk, or 142 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: he can kick it for a three. I think the 143 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: Oscar Cluff can score, Jacobson can score. I think the 144 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: problem for them becomes when they're bigs have got a 145 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: guard perimeter shooting, or sometimes in their switch games, and 146 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: and they they switch a lot, like when when they 147 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: played Illinois a few weeks back and Keeter Wagler did 148 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: these things that he did. He got some of those 149 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: threes on their big men on the on the big 150 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: men of of of Purdue, like Oscar Cluff, they struggle 151 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: in games where they've got to do a lot of 152 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: recovering to shooters, where they have to go home on 153 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: perimeter to guard to guard, or where bigs can really 154 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: shoot the ball. And that's one thing that Nebraska can do. 155 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: Nebraska can really shoot the ball. And that's really the 156 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: only thing that I see and Purdue, because there's so 157 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: many different ways that they can score. Braden Smith is 158 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: so good at creating passes, creating pocket rolls or pocket passes. 159 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry on those short roles. He's the best ball 160 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: screen guard I think in the country of being able 161 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: to read and operate out of it. He can shoot it, 162 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: he can shoot it in the paint. Lawyer can play. 163 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: I think they are really really good. But I think 164 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: as time goes on, it's going to come down to 165 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: can somebody expose them out on the perimeter because they're 166 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: big struggles staying up with that on the outside. 167 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 3: So Tom to take a big picture kind of look 168 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: at the big ten, how much of a gauntlet do 169 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: you think this conference will be when it comes to 170 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: the conference tournament and just later stages of the season 171 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: because produce I think gets tougher as we look ahead. 172 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: But also you got other teams like Indiana playing better 173 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: basketball this season goes on. 174 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt about it. In Michigan's Michigan, Michigan 175 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 2: State is going to rebound. Illinois can shoot it as 176 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: well as anybody and will shoot it as many times 177 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: as anybody, and have so many different guys that can 178 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: space you. Nebraska is really good, Iowa is getting better. 179 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: Ohio State can upset somebody you mentioned for doing Indiana. 180 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question that You've got numerous 181 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: teams in the Big Ten that could win the conference 182 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: tournament in a weekend period, but they could get all 183 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: the way to the sweet sixteen to Elite eight. Man, 184 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: that's a big jump, Like it's so hard to get 185 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: to the sweet sixteen, but a lot of things got 186 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: to go right in to get to that Elite eight 187 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: and then beyond. And I think the bottom line for 188 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: teams is the further you go down the line, somebody's 189 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: going to take away your strengths. Right. Bottom line is 190 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: your weaknesses can't beat you like you can't have weaknesses 191 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: that can that can really knock you out if you want, 192 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: You've got to be able to negate those if you 193 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: want to be able to get to the Final four. 194 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: And I think there are numerous Big Ten teams that 195 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: could overcome that and get there. A lot, like I 196 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: said with Purdue, could come down to certain matchups that 197 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: become issues for guys for teams. But I have no 198 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: doubt in my mind the Big Ten is loaded, and 199 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: it wouldn't shock me at all to see a couple 200 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: teams in the Final four and one of them even 201 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: win it. 202 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: It's voice of Tom Creani's with the seat on the 203 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: Payloss Slickers hotline. We appreciate his time on this Tuesday morning. 204 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: Coach. 205 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. The Marquette memories have had my 206 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: mind racing here on this Tuesday. You brought up Dominique James, 207 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like he's almost a forgotten 208 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: guy at times when you think back to that kind 209 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: of era of high school basketball in the state. Obviously, 210 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: he was the class right before Odin Conley et cetera. 211 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: His class I want to say Zeller might have been 212 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: mister basketball blue Feller. 213 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: Josh McRoberts was in. 214 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: That squat, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, Josh. 215 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: Well three pretty big time players right there. Yeah. 216 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: What do you remember about recruiting him? Obviously the Richmond 217 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: gym is pretty iconic. What do you remember about getting him? 218 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: Well, I remember that I remember going to some Richmond 219 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: games just being blown away because obviously there were basketball 220 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin was bigger than people thought, and there were 221 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: some phenomenal games that you would go, but it just 222 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: wasn't the way of life that it was at Indiana, 223 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: and I hadn't experienced that yet because I wasn't the 224 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: coach at Indiana yet. But I think just being at 225 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: Richmond High and seeing those type of games, meeting with 226 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: him maybe in his home and in a visit or 227 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: at the school, and just his personality, just his charisma, 228 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: the way people that the students were around him, the 229 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 2: way the teachers felt about him. It was incredible, like 230 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: it was, and he's always been like that. There's a 231 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: pied piper quality to him that he's had for a 232 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: long long time, and I think he's got it now 233 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: with his wife and coaching and the way that he 234 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: loves the game. He had a very successful career, going 235 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: overseas and G League and different things like that. But 236 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: he was astounding in the way that you didn't see 237 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: that athleticism when you first would look at him and 238 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he'd played, He'd done cooil 239 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 2: on a dunker. We had probably three or four alley 240 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: U plays that we could run for him alone, man 241 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: offense alone. I mean, he could go get a dunk. 242 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: Just incredible. But I loved, obviously loved the Zeller family, 243 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: and and Luke was the first and Josh McRoberts was 244 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: a superior talented guy back then. But that's what I 245 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: remember most. I mean, that helped me really really get 246 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: it in doctor Nation into just how powerful Indiana basketball was. 247 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: Last one before we let you go, Tom the University. 248 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: Indiana University announced yesterday that they will have a statue 249 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 3: built for Bob Knight. I'm still kind of picture in 250 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: your face after the Christian Waffer shot years ago. So 251 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: you've had a couple of moments down there in Bloomington. 252 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: But obviously, when we know we're talking coach Goats, he 253 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: is to go when it comes to Indiana basketball and 254 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: that men's program. So just your thoughts on him being 255 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 3: immortalized in that manner, Well. 256 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: It's obviously something that should have could have been done 257 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: a long time before, but for different reasons it wasn't. 258 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: And I think that it just makes a lot of sense. 259 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: So I think however, Indiana and the former players and 260 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: people like that convinced those that needed to be convinced 261 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: that that needed to be done. I give them a 262 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: lot of credit. I mean there's when you talk about 263 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: statues that should be up for coaching legends, I mean 264 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: you could put him in the mount rushmore of coaching 265 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: legends for any sport, right for somebody that should have 266 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: a big time wonderful statue, you know, out in front. 267 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: And I saw that they named the street after him 268 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: now close to the arena. To me, that's just the 269 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: way that it was. You know, even though he didn't 270 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: have a relationship with me anymore when I was there, 271 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: and that he really wasn't around us at all, there 272 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: was no question that we were going to revere him 273 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: and honor him in every possible way that we could, 274 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: whether it was pregame videos, whether it was pictures around 275 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: the arena, The cook Center, anything we could do to 276 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: make sure that we could show that we were so 277 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: proud that he had coach there even though he wasn't 278 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: around anymore for us, that we wanted to make sure 279 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: that we were never ever going to forget what he 280 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: meant to basketball or what he meant to Indiana. And 281 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: I think this statue is just now the next great 282 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: thing to continue to show that for a long long time. 283 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: He is a busy, busy man this time of year. 284 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: I always loved the insight from Tom Green coach. Congrats 285 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: on your own honor Saturday afternoon. That was cool to 286 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: see you well deserved and thanks for making time like 287 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: you do. 288 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely appreciate it very much. Thanks for having me, and 289 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: have a great week.