1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel show. Well, Hammer 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: reports saying Trump got into a quote shouting match with 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Zelensky from Ukraine in the Oval office in the last meeting. 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Now we know how the first meeting went very awkward. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: You don't have the cards. You don't have the cards. 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was, and it was awkward. So 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: per the Financial Times and Axios, Trump went as far 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: as to shout and curse at Zelensky during Friday's meeting, 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: urging him quote urging him to accept Russia's terms for 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: ending the war, and warning him that Putin had said 11 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: he would quote destroy Ukraine if Zelensky that did not agree. 12 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: So take that information with the news. We found out 13 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: today that the next meeting between Trump and Pooty Tang 14 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: has been canceled. Yep, So Trump and Putin were supposed 15 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: to have a conversation. 16 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: YEA. 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: Don't like that, and that has been canceled. Now with Trump, 18 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: you never know. It could be he wanted to go 19 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: to McDonald's. Could be the diet coke machine needed to 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: be fixed at the White House, or he wanted to 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: be there wearing the hard hat as the destruction took 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: place to build the ballroom. Could have been a number 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: of things, but the fact that this story comes after 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: the reports from Maxios and Financial Times, which take those 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: for what. You will say that Trump was yelling at Zelensky. 26 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Well, I mean their first meeting at the Oval office 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: was very awkward, and it was him and Vance. It 28 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: was Trump advance versus Zolensky. You haven't even said thank you. 29 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: Jd Vance off the top rope, Yes and listen. I 30 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: think of this like a football game. Right. Let's say 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: Purdue is playing Georgia in a football game this year. 32 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: This year, george is probably gonna be up. I would 33 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: imagine forty to three approximately against Perdue. 34 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: Okayrees generous. 35 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: Purdue is not a football school, They're a basketball school. 36 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: But it doesn't make you somebody that still doesn't want 37 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: to root for Purdue. But the real reality is Georgia 38 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: is probably going to win that game. That's the same 39 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: thing with this Russia Ukraine war. It's okay to root 40 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: for Ukraine because screw Putin, screw Russia, I get it. 41 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: But the real reality is Russia is winning this war, 42 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 2: and if it goes on any further, Russia will completely 43 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: annihilate Ukraine. To quote Donald Trump, the Ukrainians don't have 44 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: the cards. If you want this war to end, you're 45 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: gonna have to give it a little to get something. 46 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: That's the art of the deal. And I see so 47 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 2: many people on social media going Trump is bowing down 48 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: to Vladimir Putin. No, Putin's winning this war. He is. 49 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: You might not like it, you might not like Georgia 50 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: being up forty to three on Purdue, but that's the. 51 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: Reality, and he's doing it slowly, methodically. 52 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: And maybe it's a bit a little underwhelming at times. 53 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: I think we all thought maybe a little too highly 54 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: of the mighty Russian Army when this thing first started. 55 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Well, Ukraine is pushing back, for sure, and they showed 56 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: a lot more fight. They've made it difficult. 57 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that doesn't make you a bad guy 58 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: for accepting reality that there's going to be one outcome 59 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: in this war and it's not going to be the 60 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: one you want. If I played one on one with 61 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: Lebron James right now for a million dollars, you guys 62 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: can root for me all you want, and I might 63 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: be the scrappy upstart, but I'm not winning that one 64 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: on one game for a million dollars. Sometimes you have 65 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: to let reality set in and put your personal feelings aside.