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Speaker 1: doctor David Horn will take over our classroom. Doctor Hornill

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Speaker 1: explained the need for a black agenda, meshing the new

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Speaker 1: But before we hear from doctor Horn, Carvey Eyed Brother

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Speaker 1: saying go bay A will present the State of the

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Speaker 1: Race twenty twenty five. But first of Kevin opened the

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Speaker 2: Rising, indeed, Carl Nelson, it's already that time of day. Whoa,

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Speaker 2: Look, it's the eighteenth of November, man, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I had to tell you I don't need turkey,

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Speaker 4: Brother, that's right.

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Speaker 2: You know what you're saying? It should be expensive on br

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Speaker 3: Hey, look how you feeling another new I'm feeling great.

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning. I know I'm gonna learn some stuff

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Speaker 1: this morning between Brother seant Go Baye and doctor Horne,

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Speaker 3: For real, that's the way. That's the way you do it.

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Speaker 2: You're just a man of excellence and you bring in

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Speaker 3: And you see what I did there.

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Speaker 3: And you know that word trader is huge, you know.

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Speaker 2: The policy says no academic course taught at Texas at

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Speaker 2: Man, the world is really changing right before our eyes.

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Speaker 2: It's the eighteenth of November. It's pretty chilly outside. Make

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Kevin. Thirteen after the top of Alice

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Speaker 1: Are you a hold that story right there? Brother sing?

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much, thank you, so very much, peace

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Speaker 8: well as Bather Single Baya, always a legend to the people,

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Speaker 8: On yes Friday, we did a screening of episode two

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Speaker 8: As you know, we would have played something collective years

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Speaker 8: But besides that, this event on spirits and Spaceships that

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 8: As far as black people, black movies, black stories, uh

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Speaker 8: It wasn't even necessarily a sci fi movie, right, But

437
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Speaker 8: since then you haven't really seen anything. It's one of

438
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Speaker 8: the reasons why when Black Panther dropped, not only did

439
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 8: the black world erupt, the entire world erupted. Because the

440
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 8: entire world saw that magic. They saw that said, hold up,

441
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 8: that's real, that's us. That's who we are, no matter

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Speaker 8: what was going on in our community at the time,

443
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Speaker 8: no matter what's going on, the matter the detrimental things

444
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Speaker 8: that are going on. We saw Black Panther. The kids

445
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 8: saw Black Panther, the young people, and was like, yo,

446
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Speaker 8: I identify with that.

447
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Speaker 9: That is who we are.

448
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 8: We are that magic, we are that power. They are

449
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 8: we are that shrimp. But can you imagine that since

450
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 8: the six since the seventies and beyond, and I'm talking

451
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Speaker 8: about something that was a major commercial product that the

452
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Speaker 8: whole world saw. We saw the Wiz, and the Whiz

453
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Speaker 8: was amazing to me. But white dominated Hollywood produce Star Wars.

454
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Speaker 8: I mean they produced numerous movies before that. They had

455
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Speaker 8: Star Trek. I mean, we've had Harry Potter, We've had

456
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 8: we've had unlimited, unlimited series that fed directly into the

457
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Speaker 8: minds of young white people specifically, but everybody Black people.

458
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Speaker 8: Black kids had that was their goal to as well,

459
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Speaker 8: not just white kids, but the only thing that we

460
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Speaker 8: could identify with as black kids because it was the

461
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Speaker 8: only thing that was offered to us in the major

462
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Speaker 8: commercial way was these major white productions that showed white people.

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Speaker 8: So in these side five other worldly environments and creative spaces. Right,

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Speaker 8: But at this point in time, because of having access

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Speaker 8: to some tools like AI, besides the fact that Hollywood

466
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Speaker 8: and it's a lot of black people out there that

467
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Speaker 8: are creators that have these ideas, right, besides the fact

468
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Speaker 8: that Hollywood would not have green lit these these films

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Speaker 8: and TV shows that center around black folks and other

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Speaker 8: places and spiritual places and magic. We didn't We did

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Speaker 8: not have that opportunity to create those kinds of things

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Speaker 8: in a big way that would have reached the audiences.

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Speaker 8: We could have done it in a lot of different

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Speaker 8: kinds of smaller ways when I'm talking about in the big,

475
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Speaker 8: big way. But now with the access that we all

476
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Speaker 8: have to some of this AI technology, we can tell

477
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Speaker 8: stories that Hollywood would have never green liit that were

478
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Speaker 8: always inside of us, and that's sort of the thing

479
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 8: that's happening with our story Spirits and Spaceships, Spirits and Relationships. Friday,

480
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Speaker 8: we had the screening of episode two. Last year we

481
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Speaker 8: had episode one, and since then we've been developing a

482
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Speaker 8: lot of other projects. But we at RA are traditional

483
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Speaker 8: production company where we do traditional productions. I received in

484
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Speaker 8: me about a year and a half ago for traditional

485
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Speaker 8: production meaning a non ar oriented production. But now we

486
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Speaker 8: have access to create any kind of story that you

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Speaker 8: want to create.

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Speaker 1: With utilizing this tool and hold on through right there,

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Speaker 1: Brother Obie, let me just tell the folks who are

490
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Speaker 1: just waking up a twenty eight minutes away from the

491
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Speaker 1: top day, our brother Obie Holly is an AI producer

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Speaker 1: autificial intelligence. We've been talking to quite a bit about

493
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Speaker 1: on both ends, about artificial intelligence, brother Sadeka Bakari, and

494
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Speaker 1: also about you know, what's going on with the spaceships

495
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Speaker 1: and that we've been talking out with about the Nation

496
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Speaker 1: of Islama. They first one in our community talked about

497
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Speaker 1: aliens and spaceships. Your production, does it bring in any

498
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Speaker 1: of those earlier thoughts that the manager of the Nation

499
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Speaker 1: of Islam. We talked about were taught early by Elijah Muhammad.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, this idea of spirits and spaceships is

502
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 8: tapping on the concept that we as black people, and

503
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Speaker 8: I'm very familiar with the Nation of Islam aspects of it.

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00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 8: It's not necessarily the exact same thing, no, but it

505
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Speaker 8: does relate in the sense that we're talking about spaces Yes,

506
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 8: we're talking about black people that are coming from other

507
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 8: worlds and other dimensions in our particular story, in our

508
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 8: particular series. Our series is about other dimensions where black

509
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 8: people have not necessarily gone through the same atrocities that

510
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Speaker 8: we've gone through here in the Americas and in these

511
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 8: other dimensions. Right, they're recognizing that on other timelines that

512
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 8: black people are going through atrocities, and they're coming to

513
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 8: those timelines keeping in and they're saying, Yo, we have

514
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Speaker 8: to stop some of these atrocities. But at the same time,

515
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 8: they're realizing that there's some divine things going on, but

516
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Speaker 8: there's certain individuals they must grab up, take back to

517
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Speaker 8: their world, train and bring back because there's a bigger

518
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Speaker 8: universe and there's multiple dimensions where there are different things

519
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 8: going on that we have to save in order to

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00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 8: bring alignment and balance back through the universe and universes

521
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 8: and totality. Now, I know I got really big and

522
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 8: really really really really expansive on that. But what we

523
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 8: did on Friday is we did part two of our

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Speaker 8: of our episodes. And what happened was last year when

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Speaker 8: we did part one people, yeah, part two of our series.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, but last year when we did part one,

527
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 8: we kind of introduced some of the characters. But then

528
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Speaker 8: this this Friday, we exploded in the in the part

529
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Speaker 8: two and people were just stunned. And part of the

530
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 8: reason they were stuned is because we utilized AI instead

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Speaker 8: of traditional methods of telling the stories. I'm still an editor.

532
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Speaker 8: We had to edit it and put it together using

533
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Speaker 8: some of the AI videos that we were able to

534
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 8: create and create this this this story, and it basically

535
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 8: stunned people. Stunned the crowd and they were absolutely amazed

536
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 8: at what they were able to see. When you saw

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00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 8: when people saw Black Panther just from the movie Black Panther,

538
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Speaker 8: just from the standpoint of the science fiction elements, from

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00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 8: the visual element, people were amazed. People identified with it

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Speaker 8: from a power standpoint, to see us in the position

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Speaker 8: of power, see us in the position of having worlds

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Speaker 8: that never were influenced by the corruption of you know,

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Speaker 8: European control and things of that nation. So AI, I mean,

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00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 8: excuse me, the spirits and space its tapped into that reality.

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Speaker 8: So this is our series that we're bringing to the

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Speaker 8: world and we're bringing to the youth, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: All right, Hold, that's all right there, yeah, Hold all right,

548
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: fellas step asid and get caught up with the ladies

549
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: news when we come back. Mark in Baltimore City has

550
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: a question for you family, just waking up our guess

551
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: brother brother Obi Holly, is that correct? He's an AI producer.

552
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: He's done a lot of work with our young people

553
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: and get involved using AI to talk about the future.

554
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Also brother saying god by as

555
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Speaker 1: real let's think brother Sant Gore is a gave it

556
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Speaker 1: as most of you know. We're going to continue discussion

557
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: after we check check the traffic, the news, the weather

558
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: or not different cities. It's twenty four minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top. Bayn Family will take the check the news

560
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising Family infacts of waking up with

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00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 1: us on this Tuesday morning. It's seventeen minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top. Day I with I guess the brother saying,

563
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Speaker 1: go by a he's brought with us along with him

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Speaker 1: this morning, brother ob Holly, he's a producer using AI

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Speaker 1: to tell our stories. Before we go back to him,

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Speaker 1: let me just remind you come up later this morning,

567
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a critical figure and pan africanist that

568
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: doctor David Horn will join us. And later this week

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from Greyl professor James Small and also

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Speaker 1: a naturalatic, doctor Scott Whittaker will be here as well.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight to

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Speaker 1: seventy six. Brother Obi, I'll let you finish your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Then Mark in Baltimore City has a.

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Speaker 4: Question for you.

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Speaker 7: All right, beautiful, beautiful beautiful.

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Speaker 8: So no, I was just saying that, you know the

577
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 8: name of our company is Heed Raw. We're also known

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00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 8: that out of Raw we are production company. We do

579
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Speaker 8: all kinds of productions. But because of the AI technology

580
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 8: that's going on, we're utilizing that technology as well to

581
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 8: tell stories that would have been on a most not impossible,

582
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 8: but would have been more difficult to tell without it.

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00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 8: And right now you can basically have freedom if you

584
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 8: utilize some of these tools to tell all kinds of

585
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 8: stories that you can almost almost every story you can imagine,

586
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 8: there's a positive and negative thought to all that to

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Speaker 8: the AI technology. And as a matter of fact, I

588
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 8: just want to put a little plug plug and I

589
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 8: also have on Friday, we also not only screened Spirits

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Speaker 8: and Spaceships episodes two, which is our series at het

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00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 8: Rod that I and my partner, my wife Menica Holly,

592
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Speaker 8: have created, but I also released my book AI and

593
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Speaker 8: Black People. I Am Remember but Black People, and check

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Speaker 8: that out if you're interested this year.

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Speaker 1: But thank you all right, hold up right there fifteen

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00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: away from I've told you, Mark and hold any in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore City has a question for you and brother Santor

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00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: as well. Seanline grund Rising Market question for a brother

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Speaker 1: Obi or brother Sangor.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the good morning, gentlemen. Excellent presentation. I'm part of

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Speaker 5: a local neighborhood and improvement association. I'm on the board

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Speaker 5: of directors and we actually have an education committee and

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Speaker 5: we are trying to make ourselves available to find out

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Speaker 5: how we can relate to the young people in our

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Speaker 5: community to get them involved in a positive way and

606
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 5: think about not only helping the community, our community in general,

607
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 5: but also pursue a career that is, you know, appropriate

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00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 5: for their what they're mostly interested in. Now, most of

609
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Speaker 5: our young folks, you know, we have put a lot

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Speaker 5: of emphasis at sports and all that, which is which

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Speaker 5: is good for those who are athletically inclined and so forth,

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Speaker 5: but we haven't put too much emphasis on computers or performing.

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Speaker 7: Arts or the like.

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Speaker 5: So is there's something we as a community association at

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Speaker 5: as individuals center, you know, we can do or if

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Speaker 5: you have materials for us as an organizational individuals where

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Speaker 5: we can encourage our young people who or have that interest,

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Speaker 5: that passion for the arts or theater or acting or

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Speaker 5: any or computers or anything like that that that you

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Speaker 5: have available that we can engage in or obtain. That's

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Speaker 5: my question and thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Mark, A good question because you know

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Speaker 1: generally you know this as well, Brother Single, when it

624
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: comes to our young people, we would like to throw

625
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: in a basketball, you know, and I'll glad sign and

626
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: shoot some hoops. But this is what what brother Obie said,

627
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Speaker 1: He is making them think. So Brother Obi and Brother Singh,

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Speaker 1: you want to respond to what Mark's question.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, if mark about it, if he could give

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Speaker 6: your infantis information, I'm real curious to know more about

631
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Speaker 6: what he does. I don't want to do it over

632
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 6: the air, but I would like for him to leave

633
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 6: some contact info what you call or that we can

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00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 6: really reach out to him, because it sounds like, uh,

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00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 6: it's important for all of us that are doing great

636
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 6: work to interface with each other now now more than ever,

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Speaker 6: I think to ask us are calling us all to

638
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 6: come together because it's some a lot of good things

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00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 6: going on, and when all the good things cook up,

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00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 6: we can have more accessibility to resources. So that's all

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Speaker 6: I would say. I really appreciate what the butther just said.

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Speaker 6: Anybody that's working with our youth is on point with

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Speaker 6: the future. It is critical that we do involve our

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00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 6: young people across the board, not just in athletics, but

645
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 6: in all kinds of things like technology, especially creativity. And

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00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 6: before this network is over with, I want Obi to

647
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Speaker 6: also talk a little bit about his legacy, his daughters,

648
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 6: the Hollygirls, as well as his queen, because they don't

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00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 6: only deal with they eye, they deal with all kinds

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Speaker 6: of creative energy. And we're going to talk about I'm sure,

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Speaker 6: they're going to be here this year for Kwansa again

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Speaker 6: in the DC area. So I'll stop on that point.

653
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Speaker 6: Let Obi speak to it. But I love to hear

654
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 6: anybody doing anything positive for young people. That is critical.

655
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 6: We need to stay focused on self reliance, doing for

656
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 6: self respecting our ancestors. However, you respect the most High

657
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 6: and the order of the universe and get connected because

658
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 6: we are the ones that are really powerful, but we

659
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 6: have not used our power properly to move forward, and

660
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 6: that is very important. I'll stopped right there.

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Speaker 8: I say to that, yes, yes, yes, yes, Well just

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00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 8: another another plugs. As far as education goes. One good

663
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 8: book to check out. It's called AI and Black People.

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Speaker 8: I gotta say that because no very important, and you

665
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 8: can go to AI and Black People dot com and

666
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 8: find that information because there's no book or very few

667
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 8: sources like that that's totally dedicated to talking about AI

668
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 8: UH through black people specifically, and about the ups, the downs,

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00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 8: the positive, the negatives, and ultimately how we can use

670
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 8: it to our benefits I mean UH. And then of course,

671
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 8: in additions to that, there are various organizations cheching creative

672
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 8: organizations that offer different kind of training. But it needs

673
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 8: to be more, especially when it comes comes to black people.

674
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 8: And we talked about that when it comes to black

675
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 8: people and specifically technology. But the flip side of that

676
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 8: is that, as you know, black people have always been

677
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 8: on the cutting edge of technology since before ancient Egypt,

678
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 8: since Adam's Calendar South Africa, which is predated Stoneheads by

679
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 8: about twenty five thousand and seventy thousand. Some people say

680
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 8: seventy thousand years. We've always been We're on the cutting

681
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Speaker 8: edge and the creators, and we're the foundation of high technology.

682
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 8: And your youth right now has been utilizing technology. If

683
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 8: you look at youth of even everything from a cell

684
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 8: phone to video games, they're utilizing technology. They're farther ahead

685
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 8: than we often realize when it comes to technology. It's

686
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Speaker 8: just that right now, in the current situation, you don't

687
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Speaker 8: see us having to access to being the driver's seat

688
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 8: of creating the technology. And what happens is we wund

689
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 8: up being the consumers rather than the creators on a

690
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Speaker 8: large scale. And so my book, for example, is about

691
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 8: promoting the idea that we're using it regardless. So we

692
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 8: need to be on the driver's seat and be the

693
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Speaker 8: creators and reap the positive benefits of the creation of

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Speaker 8: the technology and point the technology in a way that's

695
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 8: beneficial to us, the beneficial to the world long term

696
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 8: as opposed to destructives to us and destructives to the

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Speaker 8: world long term.

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Speaker 1: So all right, let me check it and ask you

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Speaker 1: this brother Obia. Ten minutes away from the top of

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Speaker 1: they out just AI level of playing field because you

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00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: know production in Hollywood used to do you shout a

702
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: lot of money just to get in that game. Just

703
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: now with AI, does that make the plane field levels

704
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Speaker 1: so other folks you can get involved as well?

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Speaker 8: Oh my god, it levels it in a whole lot

706
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 8: of ways that couldn't have happened before.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 8: Pilo Pari, for example, and we talked about this in

709
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 8: a book. He was about to do eight hundred million

710
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 8: dollar upgrade of his studio and when he found out

711
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 8: about an application called Sora, which is a video application

712
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Speaker 8: created by open Ai, which is the same company that

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00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 8: created the popular app cat GPT, which I'm sure people

714
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Speaker 8: online are using chat GPT. We can talk about chat

715
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 8: GPT a little bit more. But after he found out

716
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 8: about this this app stra and this was last or

717
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Speaker 8: a year and a half a half ago, Sora was

718
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Speaker 8: a video generation app, which means basically that you put

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Speaker 8: a prompt into or instructions that you want or a

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Speaker 8: question that you want AI to answer for you. And

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Speaker 8: in Sora's case, since it's a video app, you say,

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Speaker 8: for example, create a picture or I'm sorry, created a

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Speaker 8: video of a bumblebee landing on a flo and in

724
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Speaker 8: a couple of seconds, hey, I can create that image. Now.

725
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Speaker 8: Back in the day, if you wanted to create a

726
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Speaker 8: bumble bee on a flower, you had to go buy

727
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Speaker 8: a camera. We had to go find a bubble train

728
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Speaker 8: a couple of bumble bees, and that's kind of impossible.

729
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 8: That you had to go to an environment to the down,

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Speaker 8: have proper lighting, have a camera crew, have a certain

731
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Speaker 8: amount of money, etc. To create that production and create

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Speaker 8: that reality. But now you can do it in about

733
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Speaker 8: thirty second, not even thirty seconds with this app called Sora.

734
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Speaker 8: But that was when so one point Oh came out.

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Speaker 8: But now we're at Sora too, and it's doing stuff

736
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Speaker 8: even faster and even more incredible in terms of the

737
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Speaker 8: visuals are concerned. And now they even had sound effects

738
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Speaker 8: and stuff like that. So yes, as far as it's

739
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 8: a level in the playing field. What you're going to

740
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Speaker 8: have is moving forward. And you know, us creating our

741
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 8: series Spirits and Spaceships is an example of that. I've

742
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 8: all we have always wanted to create mystical sci fi

743
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 8: movies taking place in other worlds and magic and stuff

744
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 8: like that, but it was difficult. Uh, you have to

745
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 8: have access to to to to an image that looks

746
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 8: like another planet. You have to have access to mountains

747
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 8: and far places and access to this to be able

748
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Speaker 8: to shoot that stuff and be able to get all

749
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Speaker 8: these actors and all these images together. It takes a

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Speaker 8: lot of time and a lot of money, and Hollywood

751
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 8: would has not greenlit these kind of projects. Hollywood has

752
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 8: green lit projects that depicted black people as thugs often

753
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 8: you know, to pick the black people in other kinds

754
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 8: of ways. But now, because of the technology, you can

755
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 8: create your own stories far easier without having to go

756
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 8: through Hollywood. And what's going to happen is besides not

757
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 8: just me in a in a in a coffee house

758
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 8: typing up a story and creating it in the way

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00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 8: that I want. They're going to be kids, your kids,

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00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 8: your grandkids are going to be in school creating story.

761
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 8: They're already doing it, but they're gonna educate not just

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00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 8: two second stories, that they're gonna be able to create

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00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 8: long form movies and plays. And that's what we're doing

764
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Speaker 8: with Spiritual Space.

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Speaker 6: It yeah, real short. I just want to kind of

766
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 6: so people that are listening can really be clear. This

767
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 6: is very important for us to relate to how AI

768
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 6: ancestral intelligence meets AI artificial intelligence and utilize Absolutely, I

769
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 6: want to say that again. It's very important. Tony Brown

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00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 6: and I talk about this all the time. It's very

771
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Speaker 6: important for us to recognize as conscious Africans living now

772
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 6: and carrying out our mission, how ancestral intelligence is something

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00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 6: that is within us that we can bring up and

774
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 6: like what Obi is doing and others is utilizing artificial

775
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 6: intelligence to create stories that will help raise the consciousness

776
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 6: and move forward. So the answer to the question call

777
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 6: that you had is absolutely much better. And now that

778
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 6: we stay in front of the game. That's why it's

779
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 6: important to get the book AI and Black People Because

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Speaker 6: me a lay person that don't know holly anything about

781
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 6: artificial intelligence, what I saw Friday, I was totally motivated.

782
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 6: It rolls up my electricity because what Obi and his

783
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 6: family were able to do is put together a story

784
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 6: utilizing artificial intelligence and bringing in ancestral intelligence and bringing

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Speaker 6: a story forward that will resonate with us as people.

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00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 6: So we don't need Hollyweird in this regard, all right, Hold.

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Speaker 1: I thought right there, Brother singh and Brother Obi Holly family.

788
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: Brother Obi Holly is an AI producer. We got to

789
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Speaker 1: step aside for a few moments and check the traffic

790
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: and weather and not different cities. It's four minutes away

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00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: from the top day of family, just waking up and

792
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: we want to join the conversation. Reach out to us

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Speaker 1: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 1: and we take your phone calls after the trafficking weather together.

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Speaker 1: That's next and grand rising family, thanks for starting.

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Speaker 4: Your day with us.

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Speaker 1: Two after the top of that with our guests brother

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Speaker 1: sending go by a and also Brother O B.

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Speaker 4: Holly.

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Speaker 1: He's the AI producers out in Hollywood making movies sci

801
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: fi movies right now to help us, you know, But

802
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: brother Obi, let me ask you the question. You know,

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00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: AI is getting a lot of pushback from the Hollywood

804
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: industry because it says it's eliminating a lot of jobs.

805
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: But for us, we weren't getting those jobs in the

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00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: first place, so they think the fight for us is

807
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: sort of different. So how do you see any pushback

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00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: of people saying, you know, you taking people's jobs. Here

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00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: we talk about crafts, We've talked about stage hands, you know, lighting,

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00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: production writers, the whole nine yards, and you could just

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00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: you could do all of those jobs in ones just

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Speaker 1: by sitting in front of your computer.

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Speaker 4: So do you get any pushback at all?

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00:44:59,600 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 7: Oh?

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00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 8: No, of course it's going to be pushed back in

816
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 8: general as regarding AI and jobs in Hollywood or jobs

817
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 8: just in production period. I mean, you know, we do

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00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 8: normal productions that aren't AI insensors, and we are doing

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Speaker 8: AI productions as well. The reality is that everyone in

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00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 8: America who has had a cell phone or has used GPS,

821
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 8: or who has i mean had a smart refrigerator or

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00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 8: had a smart TV in the last twenty years, has

823
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 8: been using AI. And the reality is that we all

824
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 8: have participated in the programming or training of the AI

825
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 8: models through our lifestyle. Every time we got on Google

826
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 8: Maps to go somewhere, we were doing it. We all,

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00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 8: just in the last couple of years, have been taken

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Speaker 8: aback by this thing that we call generative AI, where

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00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 8: we can use a prompt and put in something that

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Speaker 8: we want, be it a picture, it to help us

831
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Speaker 8: and to create a document, and then it responds with

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00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 8: an answer. That thing has been the thing. These these

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00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 8: extremely new language models that AI users, where it can

834
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 8: recognize English language to a degree and give you an answer.

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Speaker 8: These are the things that have been kind of have

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00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 8: that have rattled the industry and are going to shape

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00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 8: every single industry. And there's no way around it. There's

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00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 8: no way. There's absolutely no way around it. Whether you're

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00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 8: talking about in Hollywood, or you're talking about in the

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00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 8: car industry, or you're talking about in every industry. It's

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00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 8: going to abruptly change the industry. And so my thing

842
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 8: is that we have to be on the cutting edge

843
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 8: of where things are going, as opposed to be as

844
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 8: far as far as black people is concerned, as opposed

845
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 8: to being the last people to understand and get on

846
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 8: something and being left behind. Think about it like this,

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00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 8: Because of AI, they're gonna be a lot of black

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00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 8: jobs at risk. Jobs that black people have, be it

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00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 8: at a grocery store, be it at a cashier, be

850
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 8: it across the board, not just in Hollywood, so how

851
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 8: do we participate in where this thing goes as opposed

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00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 8: to becoming victims of where this thing goes? And the

853
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 8: way to participate is to be a part of it

854
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 8: in some in some aspects, or to be there's also

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00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 8: going to be a kind of a counterculture, just like

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00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 8: Vinyl records, for example, where people know that when MP

857
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 8: CDs came out, everybody was like, hey, man, CDs are cool.

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00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 8: Vinyl disappeared, right, and then a few years later MP

859
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 8: three MP three's came out. CDs disappeared, but now guess what,

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00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 8: Vinyl's back, and now it's a kind of a cult

861
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 8: niche thing. So there's another thing where you can be

862
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 8: on the total opposite side and represent that which is

863
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 8: totally non artificial intelligence and still make a living for yourself,

864
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 8: et cetera. But we're we're right now. We're in the

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Speaker 8: height of the AI kind of revolution changing things. It's

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00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 8: the same thing with any technology. When the Internet came out,

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00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 8: people said, hey man, no one's gonna go to a

868
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 8: library again, and this tweeted that I know young a

869
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 8: lot of young people that never go to the library.

870
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 8: If they want to ask a question, they get on

871
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 8: Google to ask a question. I'm sure you got friends

872
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 8: like that, right, They asked their questions from something their

873
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 8: phone in their pockets. But overall, libraries had to shift

874
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 8: because the industry was disrupted, but libraries are still here.

875
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 8: Same thing with the cab industry. I mean a lot

876
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 8: of us know people in the cab industry that had

877
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 8: cabs and you know, were severely affected when cabs were

878
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 8: replaced by ubers and lists. They're not entirely replaced. It replaced, right,

879
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 8: but every I mean a lot of us can't even remember.

880
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 8: Some of some of our kids that are people that

881
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 8: are teenagers that are twenty one years old, never drove

882
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 8: a cab. They only drove an uber or a lift.

883
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 8: While they shot the cab industry. On the flip side,

884
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 8: it created a lot of jobs for people that didn't

885
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 8: have no other way to get a job that could

886
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 8: drive all night long and pick people up at the

887
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 8: airport and utilize it their own schedule. So with all

888
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 8: these changes that happened, there's going to be disruption, and

889
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 8: at the same time, there's going to be for people

890
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 8: that are thinking, that are smart, that are involved, that

891
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 8: are trying to figure out what's the next thing, And

892
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 8: we Black folk are extremely creative. There's going to be

893
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 8: a new way of people that can have to take

894
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 8: advantage of what's going on and taking it to the

895
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 8: next phase and new entrepreneurs. It doesn't mean the technology

896
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 8: don't change the industries the jobs. Like you said, absolutely,

897
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 8: they're definitely going to be affecting the jobs because thing

898
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 8: is this, The thing is this, It's happened regardless. Hollywood,

899
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 8: for example, is going to there's no way they can

900
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 8: exist in this world where any kid can create a

901
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 8: Disney quality movie uh and and put it out there.

902
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 8: So they're gonna have to adjust unfortunately, fortunately depend upon

903
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 8: how you look at it. And the other thing about

904
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 8: it is my greatest thing about it is in Africa,

905
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 8: for example, in the Caribbean, and I live in in

906
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 8: Los Angeles, we don't have uh in Detroit, in Cleveland

907
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 8: and Cincinnati and uh you know the south side of

908
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 8: Chicago there aren't movie studios. But guess where there are.

909
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 8: The kids got laptops. Young people got laptops, and they'll

910
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 8: be able to tell stories they never were able to,

911
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 8: never able to create.

912
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: Right, And I get where you're going, but that begs

913
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: my question. I'm glad you go there, brother Obi, because

914
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: you're right that we're in the digital revolution right now.

915
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: You know, people are not caning around cash as well,

916
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: they're using you know, credit cards, and then that's gonna

917
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: be gone pretty soon. But the Mata, I'm not sure

918
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: how old you are if you remember the mata, uh

919
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: the matar in the shit what it was where they

920
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: try to figure out they figured out for black folks,

921
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: it's distribution. We don't have a mechanism for people to

922
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: buy our products. You talked about the Caribbean, you talked

923
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: about south Side, Chicago and Cleveland, all these different cities.

924
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: But if people don't know, how are you going to

925
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: get know that? When you do these movies, how are

926
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: the folks and on the content, how are they going

927
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: to know that they exist? That's what Marta was trying

928
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: to do because we make a lot of stuff, we

929
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: just don't know who makes them and we want to

930
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: support our folks, but we just don't know how to

931
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: reach them. So how are you gonna how are you

932
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: going to cross that hurdle? Because when you make these movies,

933
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: how are you going to reach the people who needs.

934
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: To see them?

935
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 8: Well, well, there's gonna be a couple of things that's

936
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 8: going on. As far as that's concerned, distribution has always

937
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 8: been the thing that's always the power play, right. I mean,

938
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 8: I know that recently on Instagram, I can't remember the

939
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 8: organization Africa I don't called Africa Stream or something. The

940
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 8: United States government recently pulled them off of Instagram. And

941
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 8: they were doing a lot of positive stuff. They were

942
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 8: talking about truck or ray over in uh Raquina, fasso,

943
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 8: et cetera. And they were doing all kinds of real

944
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 8: positive uplooking stuff. But on Instagram, people a platform that

945
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 8: we just think it's some free platform, right, they just

946
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 8: pulled pulled the whole, uh their whole company off of

947
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 8: there and and denied them them access. The same thing

948
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 8: with you know, the same thing. Kinds of things can

949
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 8: happen on Facebook and all these things. But all these

950
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 8: companies I just mentioned are we're always white owned companies

951
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 8: that never had necessarily black interests at heart. You know,

952
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 8: you don't want it black people to get involved and

953
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 8: be on these platforms, but these were not black owned companies,

954
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 8: and so we have to be in the driver's fy

955
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 8: of this technology. We can't just utilize I mean, all

956
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 8: of us, you know, we we throw an event, we

957
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 8: utilize Facebook, we show an event, we utilized Instagram to

958
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 8: get the word out, But we're not throwing an event

959
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 8: utilizing social media product that we've created and have have

960
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 8: control over. Not yet, not in a large, large, large

961
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,479
Speaker 8: scale yet. I know Isaac Cay's's Sun who created fan Base,

962
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 8: which you've you know, raising money for it to try

963
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 8: to get popular, et cetera, et cetera, which is a

964
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 8: social media platform. But we have to be in the

965
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 8: driver's set and the creation of that. So on one level,

966
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 8: we have distribution. As the technology becomes even more u popular,

967
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 8: we'll have opportunity to popularize our own distribution outlets. It's

968
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 8: number that's number like number one, number two. But also

969
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 8: as the popular as the technology becomes more popular, these

970
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 8: streaming services and stuff are going to have to recognize

971
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 8: and and be like, man, this content is popular. If

972
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 8: you can make it popular, they're gonna want to stream

973
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 8: your stuff. That's amazing because the end of the day,

974
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 8: they they're trying to generate dollars, So let.

975
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 6: Me try them in here, could Obi call That's a

976
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 6: very good question. But that's why it's very important. That's

977
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 6: why this topic is called state of the race. So

978
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 6: when we start talking about certain things, we always depend

979
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 6: too much on the oppressor to move forward. We need

980
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 6: to create tech the necessary things we need to move forward.

981
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 6: That's why I started the whole show off talking about

982
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 6: the race first convention because all of the issues that

983
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 6: we're talking about right now, we are talking about coming

984
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 6: up with solutions to how we can move forward. So

985
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 6: our technological table was seriously looking at that, not only

986
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 6: how you can create ways to distribute positive content to

987
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 6: our people black owned back controls, but how you can

988
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 6: secure it. Obi gave a very good example of a

989
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 6: very powerful company coming out of East Africa that was

990
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 6: rolling and kicking our real positive information and because they

991
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 6: were U European or Urugu of vehicles, they were completely

992
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 6: taken off. So that means we as African people need

993
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 6: to be ahead of the game and create the kind

994
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 6: of technology, create the kind of science that is required

995
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 6: for us to move forward where that don't happen. And

996
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 6: I want to make it real clear, anything positive that

997
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 6: is going on for African people needs to connect with

998
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 6: other things positive because we are we are a cradle.

999
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 6: I mean, there is no human beings that exists in

1000
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 6: the world that can not come from us. So there

1001
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 6: is nothing that we cannot create, but we've been so

1002
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 6: programmed to let the other fellow control how we move forward.

1003
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 6: Like let's look at the Internet for example. If you

1004
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 6: look at the creative ability of African people, there would

1005
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 6: be no Internet without the creativity of our people. But

1006
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 6: the question is who controls it. So I just want

1007
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 6: to make that clear. So listen must understand Carl. Everything

1008
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 6: we need can be put in place for us to

1009
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 6: move forward, particularly the ways to distribute positive content. So

1010
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 6: it's not like one area. We need to connect all

1011
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 6: of these areas. That's why we're talking about the state

1012
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 6: of the race. And I don't want to push us

1013
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 6: too forward into the future. But we got Quansa coming up,

1014
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 6: and you're talking to two of folks who are connected

1015
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 6: to a large collective that have been doing Quansa for years.

1016
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 6: And on the thirtieth we're going to do Near and

1017
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 6: on the twenty eighth by Brother Obia Sand they're going

1018
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 6: to do that Quansa event. So it's about connecting with

1019
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 6: other brothers and sisters, not just in the US of A,

1020
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 6: but even in Africa. They have creative ability to create

1021
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 6: what we need so we have our own world going forward. Remember,

1022
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 6: the Pyramids were built by our ancestors, and I want

1023
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 6: to say that the pyramids were built by our answers.

1024
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 6: So it is nothing that we cannot build when we

1025
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 6: know who we are and we put our mind to it. Anyway,

1026
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 6: I'll stop there because I'm very pumped up.

1027
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 4: I had I got you fifteen.

1028
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: As to the top of the our family, that's brother

1029
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: saying go Bay's gave heed and is along with brother

1030
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: Obi Holly. He's an AI producer out in Hollywood, and

1031
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about we're using the new technology to work

1032
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: for us. And one of the things that we just

1033
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: discussed we need our own platform. Just this morning, right

1034
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: now as we speak, there's a platform called cloud Flare.

1035
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: This is where websites likes ex forming on his Twitter

1036
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: and film reviewing site, letterboxes on aram message because it's

1037
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: down right now. So, brother Obi, how can we create

1038
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: our own platform? And then once we created, how can

1039
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: we get the message out that this is ours and

1040
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: get our people to support it because you know, there's

1041
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: some folks in our communities still think that the white

1042
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: man's ici is cold, is water wet, and is sugar sweeter.

1043
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: We got to convince those folks to come over.

1044
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: How can we do that?

1045
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 7: You know.

1046
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 5: Right now?

1047
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 8: We have to, we have to, we have to just

1048
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 8: do it. We actually one of het rid projects is

1049
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 8: the creation of a platform. I don't want to get

1050
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 8: into all of that right now on the phone, unfortunately, but.

1051
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: I try to hold up thought right there and think

1052
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: about that because we've got to step aside for a

1053
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: few moments. And when you come back, I'll let you

1054
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: explain that. Because because we can make the product family.

1055
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: And this is again I mentioned the Mata. Some of

1056
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: you who understand what Marta was trying to do it

1057
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: because we've got people who make all kinds of stuff

1058
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: all across the world, and what Marta was a network,

1059
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: was trying to bring them together. If you want to

1060
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: buy black, and this is what we're trying to do.

1061
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 6: I work with Mata cal so I understand clearly what

1062
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 6: you're talking about. I work with Ken Bridges and now

1063
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 6: I understand.

1064
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: But hold up thing right there, brother saying, we got

1065
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: to take a short break and I'll let you explain

1066
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: that when we get back. And for the folks who

1067
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: don't know what Marta is family, you want to join

1068
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: this converse sation with brother Senghar. He just hard him speaking,

1069
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: Brother Obi Hali, he's AI producer stuff. I'bout making films

1070
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: for us. What are your thoughts? Eight hundred four to

1071
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six will get you in.

1072
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: We'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family.

1073
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: Thanks are staying with us on this Tuesday morning. I

1074
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: guess his brother Seng Goo bay A, he's a Garvey act.

1075
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: You've heard him here before. And also introducing us to

1076
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: a brother Obi Holly. He's an AI producer's making sci

1077
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: fi films out in Hollywood and it's doing it for us.

1078
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: And before we left, the brother Seng was going to

1079
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: explain to us what the Marta For those of you

1080
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: who don't know what Martar Group was with of course

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Speaker 1: you knows Ken Bridges and al Wellington. Those are the

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00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: fellows who were spirit leading Marta. Because we have some

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00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: brilliant folks around the country, around the world who manufacture stuff,

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00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: but we just don't know who they are. We just

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00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: don't know how to reach them. And this is what

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00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: that was the Martars goal. So brother sengud to tell

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00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: the folks explained it with what what Martar was. Because

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00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: if brother Obi's making these these sci fi flicks that

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00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: we should support and love and we want to watch,

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00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: but if we don't know on how to get to them,

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01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: how he can reach us, then that's a problem. We

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01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: have to we have to you know, we have to

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01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: make that connection there and bringing that gap ahead and

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01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: explained at first, I.

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Speaker 6: Must held up our ancestors brother brother Kenbridges and Al Wellington,

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01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 6: two geniuses who came up with the concept of Marta.

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Speaker 6: But they set at the feet of Gary's That's what

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01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 6: a lot of people don't know. They set at the

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01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 6: feet of Garveyites. The Robinson brothers, Calvin and Edward Robinson

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01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 6: out of Philadelphia, powerful, just like Doc Ben and Doc Clark.

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01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 6: They created a whole lot of things. But that's how

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01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 6: Martar came into existence. After the million Man March, there

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01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 6: was a Wellington group and Ken Bridges and Al Wellington

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01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 6: had a group established that supported the million Man March.

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01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 6: After the Millionaire March in nineteen ninety five, Marta was established.

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01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 6: Martar was essentially a race first distribution, a network distributing

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01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 6: products made and created by black people. And so I

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01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 6: don't want to go too into it because it's a

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01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 6: whole show. But the fact of the matter is there

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01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 6: are people who are still who work with MATA, who

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01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 6: are working on other ways and means of distributing products.

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Speaker 6: And there are other groups, not just in the United

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01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 6: States but around the world that are working on similar projects.

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Speaker 6: But MATA was a rape first gobyit network that was

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01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 6: established primarily in Philadelphia, New Jersey, but spread it all

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01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 6: across the country. Brother Haki who comes in here, a

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Speaker 6: lot myself and a whole lot of us people in Chicago,

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01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 6: a lot of people who created product black products were

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01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 6: able to distribute them through the network that was created

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Speaker 6: by MACA. So I'll leave it to that call. But

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Speaker 6: what my point is, just like Ken Bridges and al

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01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 6: Wellington were geniuses, economic geniuses that created the network, there

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01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 6: are other brothers and sistants alive today that have those

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Speaker 6: kind of engineering and economic skills that are creating ways

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Speaker 6: and means to provide ways and means. You heard Brother

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Speaker 6: Obie say that he couldn't go too into depth about

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01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 6: some of the things that are being worked on because

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01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 6: anything that we put in place, we have to be

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01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 6: able to control it and push it forward so other

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01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 6: people can gain it and get from it. And that's

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Speaker 6: what I happened Friday with what would happened with the

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Speaker 6: Spiritual Spaceship is everybody that saw it was extremely motivated.

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01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 6: Like our engineer brother Harold, brother Haru, he saw it.

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01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 6: He was totally motivated. And I just want to thank

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01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 6: Obi and his family for being so visionary to take

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01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 6: on the ability to utilize AI and continue to do

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Speaker 6: the creative work. Because what people do not understand is

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01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 6: not only do they understand how to use AI, they

1139
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 6: use their creative genius to create art and culture. And

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Speaker 6: I wanted Obi before he gets off, to talk a

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01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 6: little bit about that because I know his instance, he

1142
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 6: does a lot of production and he has a holly girls,

1143
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 6: his daughters that are absolutely fabulous. So I'll stopped on

1144
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 6: that point because I really want people to hear a

1145
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 6: little more about you know, the AI and how important

1146
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 6: it is to get Obi's books. You know, AI and

1147
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 6: black people, AI and black people very important, all.

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01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 4: Right, brother Obi?

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01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: But first of all, Brother, what what triggered What was

1150
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: it that made you want to get into this field

1151
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: and tell our story? What was it that that you know, Well,

1152
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: this sparked, you're interesting, get into AI to tell our story.

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01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 8: That's funny you asked that question. I always knew, says

1154
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 8: a kid.

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Speaker 6: You.

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Speaker 8: My name is Obie, right, so you know, the primary

1157
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 8: character in the movie Star Wars back in the day

1158
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 8: was Obi ben Kenobi Obi Wan. So ever since the

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01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 8: seventy people let me call me obi Wan. So that's

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01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 8: one of my nicknames. And right, and as you know,

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Speaker 8: Star Wars is uh Android, you're gonna say so, I'm sorry, no, no, no,

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Speaker 8: go ahead, You're good.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 8: You know it's a sci fi uh you know, movie series,

1165
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 8: et cetera. And so I've always been on on on

1166
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 8: the cutting edge of that. I've always been on a

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01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 8: cutting edge of spirituality, African spirituality as well as looking

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Speaker 8: into the into the future. I remember back in the day,

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Speaker 8: I went to a Nation House by Toto Nation House

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Speaker 8: Positive Action Center. Shout out to I J. Mayhe's fly

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Speaker 8: a piece into all the great people that created that

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01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 8: magnificent institution for young African people. And we started a

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01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 8: computer club. I'm not even gonna get getting to my age,

1174
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 8: but we started a computer club back in the day

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01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 8: when it was about the Commodore sixty four and the

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Speaker 8: VIC twenty, and people didn't even know where the A

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01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 8: lot of people didn't even know what the computer was actually,

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01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 8: and so we were always kind of ahead of the

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01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 8: game as far as what was going on. So that

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01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 8: put me in the frame of mind to be able

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01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 8: to recognize friends, I would say faster than not everybody,

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01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 8: but faster than some people. And I saw early on

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01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 8: with this AI thing that this was going to be

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01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 8: a major game changer. And I've done that in the

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01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 8: past with different things, but I said, yeah, this is

1186
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 8: going to be a major game changer, just like the

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01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 8: Internet was a major game changer. I'm just like Uber

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01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 8: and lists were major game changers. I knew this was

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01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 8: going to be a major game changer. And my thing

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01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 8: is I did not want Black people to be the

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01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 8: last to know or to simply be the consumers historically,

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Speaker 8: And we talked about this in a book. Even though

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01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 8: we went through the four hundred year slave trade, slave

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01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 8: trade and Jim Crow, we still managed to come through

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Speaker 8: with our brilliant and basically event everything from a technological

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01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 8: love well. I mean, I don't know how many people

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01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 8: could go through what Black people with would still come

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Speaker 8: out being instrumental in the creation of the Internet, and

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Speaker 8: the instrumental in the creation of this mechanical thing, this

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01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 8: technical thing. So let you know that this idea that

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 8: black people ain't technical people or not in the technology,

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01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 8: that's that's the fart.

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Speaker 7: We're the creators of it.

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01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 8: Like Barba single Baya said, we create the pyramids and pyramids,

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01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 8: civilizations and you know, agriculture and writing and all kinds

1206
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 8: of things. So as far as being able to create,

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01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 8: that's always been something that we did. And even though

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01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 8: the society has attempted to position us to not paying

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01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 8: positions of power as far as technology is concerned in

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01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 8: terms of the creation or ownership of that creation, let's

1211
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 8: make that key ownership. I said, you know what, I

1212
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 8: gotta do something that's going to help reposition us and

1213
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 8: put us in our rightful place. We're the creators, the founders,

1214
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 8: the originators of technology, spirituality first and special intelligence first.

1215
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 8: But our technology was always used historically and traditionally come

1216
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 8: out of Africa and then all over the world to

1217
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 8: push forward our spiritual agendas, to push forward the concept

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01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 8: of us realizing our greatest and for its potential and

1219
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 8: spiritual bands first and so I said, I'm not gonna

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01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 8: let these people.

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01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 7: Not allow us.

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01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 8: Let me create something that's going to position us to

1223
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 8: be able to utilize the technology, get in on the

1224
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 8: ground level and instead of just being consumers like a

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01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 8: lot of us consumed video games, all these things. We consume. Netflix,

1226
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 8: we consume, Amazon, we consume, I mean, Ahbo Max, we consume, consume, consume.

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01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 8: Said not, We're gonna be on the creating side of it.

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01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 8: So that's what AI and Black People the book is

1229
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 8: about create so that we can mean a power position

1230
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 8: and so that ultimately we can help shape the future

1231
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 8: because it's here regardless if we like it, don't like it,

1232
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 8: realize it or not, and it's going to affect it.

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01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 8: It's already a second folks in so many ways, job wise,

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01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 8: et cetera, et cetera. So we need to be in

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01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 8: the driver's seat of where it goes, and not just

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01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 8: that if we can't complain about these algorithms, for example,

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01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 8: I mean, think about it like this, These algorithms and

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01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 8: these are the systems that are used that are basically

1239
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 8: the direction for the AI applications that we use. Be

1240
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 8: it a GPS application, be it a mid journey application

1241
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 8: that creates a beautiful picture for you, be it chat,

1242
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 8: GPT that helps you write an article. These algorithms are

1243
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 8: trained and are training themselves based on information that's out there,

1244
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 8: largely based on data sets for example, where that come

1245
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 8: off the Internet, random information on the Internet, all kinds

1246
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 8: of information. And if that information on the Internet has

1247
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 8: been steeped in racism and the white supremacy worldview, that's

1248
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 8: gonna come out in your AI results, whether you know

1249
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 8: what understand it or not, in a subtle way or

1250
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 8: in a non subtle way. And I give you an example.

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01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 8: I when I first started utilizing AI, you know, I

1252
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 8: would type in and I just use this as a

1253
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 8: clear example, ancient Egyptian. I need an ancient Egyptian woman

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 8: walking down by the pyramids, and they would always come

1255
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 8: out white. Okay, And I mean you would go, I'd

1256
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 8: go to multiple sites and type this in and they

1257
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 8: would come out white. Why would they come out white? Well,

1258
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 8: the information they're drawing on is predominantly sources that keep

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01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 8: projecting the same bias, incorrect use of ancient egypt people

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01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 8: in culture. Well, the people that are creating these applications

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01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 8: have no vested interests in that in creating and telling

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 8: the true story. Right, So this is another reason why

1263
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 8: we have to be involved in the technology and creating

1264
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 8: it so we can put our product, our ideas, our

1265
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 8: concepts to reality to the forefront. So the algorithms drawn

1266
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 8: on information that is crucial and important and true and

1267
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 8: represents us as opposed to this hype that's going on

1268
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 8: where these stallacies are being perpetuated through the AI algorithms.

1269
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 8: Because as AI grows in height and people start creating

1270
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 8: new companies day after day, day after day, they're utilizing

1271
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 8: a lot of the same information, and they're perpetuating the

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01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 8: same information. So the AI algorithm that I ask to

1273
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 8: draw a picture of ancient Egyptian walking down by the

1274
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 8: pyramids will keep coming out white or this kind of

1275
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 8: non black, you know, kind of characters. And it did

1276
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 8: it over and over again. Now here's the crazy thing, right,

1277
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 8: Even if you talk to the so called white scholars,

1278
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 8: they'll tell you, hey, man, you know ancient Egyptians. It'll

1279
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 8: be like, relax, ancient Egyptians. The original intradiption was some

1280
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 8: multi race kind of thing. Well, I'm like, all right,

1281
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 8: well that ain't true. The foundation of ancients was not

1282
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 8: multi race but let's say it. What was So then

1283
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 8: we're the black people in these pictures you're supposed to

1284
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 8: be drawing me. I've typed the question that fifty times

1285
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 8: you keep coming up with white ancient Egyptians.

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01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 10: You see what I'm saying.

1287
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 8: So when you start seeing stuff like that, well, let.

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01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: Me shull me here for a second, brother, Obie, at

1289
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: twenty seven minutes away from the top, there are we

1290
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: have some exceptionally gifted, talented people in all kinds of businesses,

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Speaker 1: but they're not working for us. They're working for the

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Speaker 1: other folks. How can we convince them? Because you could

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01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: be over working for them too with your talent what

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01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: you're doing. But you decide to come and help us

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01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: and help help our community doing what you're doing with

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01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: AI and you know, delivering movies about for our people.

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01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: How do we convince those who are because I'm telling

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01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: you we we just probably don't know them, but you

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Speaker 1: know it comes out later in the wash it it

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Speaker 1: was a black person or a sister or a brother

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Speaker 1: did this. I'm talking about globally, But they're working for

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01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: the other folks. And this is on all levels, not

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Speaker 1: just in AI, but in banking and business and all

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Speaker 1: of that, How do we convince those folks to come

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01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,879
Speaker 1: and give back or work for our community.

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Speaker 8: Hey, that's a great question.

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 7: You know. Part of it is.

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Speaker 8: We have to be educated on it. We have to

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Speaker 8: educate ourselves, and we have to keep setting the example

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 8: and going out and doing things like creating spirits and

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01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 8: spaceship so that people start to see that there are

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Speaker 8: other possibilities, and these other possibilities aren't necessarily always easy

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Speaker 8: to do.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: First of all, there's a level of consciousness and commitment

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Speaker 8: that goes into doing what we're doing. And I'm not

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01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 8: patting ourselves on the back or anything like that, but

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Speaker 8: there's a level of wakefulness as far as everything that's

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01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 8: going on, and not everybody's there. Not all black people

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 8: are there yet, and many will not will not be there.

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Speaker 8: But that's a part of the foundation of it. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I did a spin at since I've been on the

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Speaker 8: West Coast. You know, I have a whole a family

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01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 8: out here, obviously, and we had Chipped. My wife and

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Speaker 8: I had children and our whole team holly girls. They're

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Speaker 8: growing up now. But I've done jobs. I took a

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Speaker 8: job for Google one time doing working with Google Maps,

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Speaker 8: and I went to Google and I was at powow

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Speaker 8: Alto Coupertino and that whole area and that whole complex

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Speaker 8: between uh LA and uh San Francisco area, and I worked,

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01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 8: was at the cafeteria and I saw the population and

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Speaker 8: I saw who was in there. With regards to was

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Speaker 8: where the black people. There is very hue, you know,

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Speaker 8: but there are. But but I'm sure those black folks

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Speaker 8: Virginia's are doing amazing things. And what's happening is these

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Speaker 8: people are are getting you know, getting paid to you know,

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Speaker 8: to uh to express this talent, being in AI, being

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Speaker 8: in technology, being in engineering, and there's always going to

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Speaker 8: be a challenge a lot of times when it comes

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Speaker 8: to bringing that talent back to us where it may

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Speaker 8: may matter, or giving it, you know, somewhere else where

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Speaker 8: you getting paid, get getting that checked. So every now

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01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 8: and then some people say, hey, man, you know you've

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 8: heard this before. Celebrities need to support, and there was

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 8: there's no celebrity support on some creative projects. I remember

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Speaker 8: when Spike he was doing X, he was able to

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Speaker 8: generate celebrity of support to get his product and its

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Speaker 8: projects done. But that's not always easy because you think, hey, man,

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01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 8: we got enough billionaires, enough millionaires to be able to

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01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 8: get these products off the ground and back the distribution,

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01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 8: get our distribution done so that people can see our product,

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01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 8: and so that the artists and or the creators can

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01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 8: feed their families. So, you know, there's always that dilemma,

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Speaker 8: But at the core of it is a consciousness.

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Speaker 7: I think that.

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Speaker 8: So no matter how you journey in life, you've got

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01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 8: to take a job here, take a job there. In

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01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 8: the back of your mind, on the forefront of your mind,

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Speaker 8: you're always thinking about how you can give back and

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Speaker 8: create and uplift through whatever technology that you're using.

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Speaker 1: Right then, we've got to step aside for a few

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Speaker 1: moments and check the news. Well we come back though,

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Speaker 1: question let me put the question this way, man, do

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Speaker 1: you think conscious brothers and sisters will get hired by

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Speaker 1: stay with your production Hollywood? Do you think Hollywood would

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Speaker 1: hire a conscious brother or sister? I'll let you explain that.

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Speaker 1: When we get back, we gotta check the news, trafficking

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Speaker 1: weather out of different cities. It's twenty three minutes away

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Speaker 1: from the top of our family. I guessed his brother

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Speaker 1: Obi Holly, he's an AI producer along with brother Seng

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Speaker 1: Goo by A talking about producing films for us. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Eight hundred and four five zero seventy

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Speaker 1: eight seventy six gets you in and we'll take your

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Speaker 1: phone calls after the news that's next and Grand Rising family,

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Speaker 1: thanks for starting your day with us at fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: away from the top of the eye with our guest

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Speaker 1: that Garvey I, brother Sean goo by A and brother

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Speaker 1: Obi Holly. He's an AI producer works out in Hollywood

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Speaker 1: and he makes movies for us. Before we go back

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Speaker 1: to them, let me just remind you coming up later

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Speaker 1: this morning, we're gonna speak with the Pan Africanist and

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01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: critical thinking scholar, doctor David Horn. And later this week

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from GRIO professor James Small, also a nidrepatic.

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01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: Doctor Scott Whittaker is going to be here. So if

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01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep your ready

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01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: locked in tight on ten ten wolb or for in

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Speaker 1: the DMV run fourteen fifty wol All right, brother Obi,

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Speaker 1: you finish your thought and then brothers say and go.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you respond to it as well.

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Speaker 8: Right, you asked the questions that does Hollywood want conscious brothers. Yeah,

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01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 8: how do.

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Speaker 1: Conscious brothers and sists get involved? Do you think they'll

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Speaker 1: hire a conscious brother insistent?

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, if you walk around with your

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 8: consciousness on your sleeve, you ain't getting paid through Hollywood

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Speaker 8: unless Hollywood finds some way to get paid through you.

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Speaker 8: They're not running to collect people with a certain kind

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Speaker 8: of cognuans that doesn't make them any money. In their mind,

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Speaker 8: they don't necessarily want to tell those stories off the top,

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01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 8: not at all. However, back on the distribution things, and

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna try to say these real quick AI tools

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01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 8: that are in existence right now are neither good nor

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01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 8: bad necessarily, it depends on how to utilize them. What

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01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 8: you're gonna see and in their future is these AI

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01:17:55,680 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 8: tools are going to be our new distribution platform. And

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01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 8: they're gonna because they're growing so quickly, and i mean

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Speaker 8: I'm talking about far faster than exponential growth, These tools

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Speaker 8: themselves are going to be the platforms. So we as

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Speaker 8: black people, got to create these tools.

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Speaker 7: We create, these.

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Speaker 8: Tools will be in the distribution sheet number. Netflix started off,

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01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 8: as you know, you mail in some money and then

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01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 8: they send you a VHS or a DVD back in

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Speaker 8: the day, and now it's morphed into a major distribution platform.

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Speaker 8: But because it's on the Internet, you two can have

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Speaker 8: a major distribution platform. And so AI is actually going

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01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 8: to make it easier for you to have your own

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Speaker 8: distribution platform if that's what you choose to do the Internet.

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Speaker 8: Never before in history has there been an opportunity. You know,

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01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 8: distribution has always been in the thing you always back

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 8: in the day, you know, you had to have a

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Speaker 8: relationship with satellite, you had to have a relationship if

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Speaker 8: you were in music with all the record stores, et cetera,

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Speaker 8: et cetera. A number four in history has it been

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Speaker 8: potentially easy as easy it is as it is today.

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Speaker 8: Not that it's easy, but it's never been as easy

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Speaker 8: to today get on a You can use AI to

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01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 8: create a website that's a distribution platform. Now you don't

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01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 8: have no followers yet, Now you got to figure out

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Speaker 8: how to fumbel them to your website, which black folks

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01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 8: have been geniuses at figuring out how to get distribution.

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Speaker 8: Right there in DC, you got the legend Holly Grima

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Speaker 8: when he dropped his film stan Kopa back in the

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Speaker 8: eighties nineties, Right I mean, he went church to church

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Speaker 8: to tell the story and he created his own distribution

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Speaker 8: outlet in order to get those stories out. Now, they

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Speaker 8: might not have made one hundred million dollars in the

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Speaker 8: first couple of years, but believe it or not, not

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Speaker 8: right now, with the distribution possibilities of the the Internet,

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Speaker 8: of creating your own Netflix and creating your own getting

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01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 8: together with some people of like mine, and creating outlets,

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Speaker 8: you can actually create these networks. Like I said, Isaac

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Speaker 8: Hayes's son has one creator called fan Base, which is

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Speaker 8: a social media platform. Facebook is a distribution platform. It's

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Speaker 8: just distributing conversations and stuff like that. And for a minute,

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Speaker 8: Facebook was distributing you know, video content.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 8: Fan Base, Isaac Hayes's son's company, is a social media

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Speaker 8: platform where you know, artists can go about distributing their songs,

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01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 8: their music, video clips, et cetera. So it all depends

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Speaker 8: on just how the type of programming that you want

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01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 8: to distribute and also having the patience to put together

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01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 8: the money to put together the financial models to get

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Speaker 8: those things out there. Like you said yourself, Miss Carter,

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Speaker 8: you have the talent, but it's now it's a matter

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Speaker 8: of utilizing that talent, combined with our expertise and our

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Speaker 8: understanding of some of these new tools in order to

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Speaker 8: get those images and ideas out there. And that absolutely

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01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,560
Speaker 8: is very important. At the end of the day, you

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Speaker 8: cannot tell your story the way you want it to

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01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 8: be told by going through people who have who don't

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Speaker 8: have your interest at heart, in no type of way.

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Speaker 8: And we keep seeing that that being told over and

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Speaker 8: over and over and over and over again.

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Speaker 4: Brothers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Obi, I'm just listening to Obi. I'm just so

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Speaker 6: happy to hear him articulate how important it is for

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Speaker 6: us who are conscious. I want to stress that everybody

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Speaker 6: ain't conscious. Everybody ain't gonna get it at the same time,

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Speaker 6: but those of us that are conscious utilizing our creativity,

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Speaker 6: our skills, our challenge to build what we need.

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Speaker 7: To go forward.

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Speaker 6: I know our ancestors, and please, brother Obie, with what

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Speaker 6: you're call I don't have too much more to add

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01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 6: with the time other than just just let Obi continue

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01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 6: to let people know how they can get his book.

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Speaker 6: I did want Obi to mention a little bit about

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01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 6: I know you don't gonna go too into it. That's

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Speaker 6: a whole nother show about the Hollygirls and the great

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 6: work that him and his queen are doing have been

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 6: doing creative wise, not just with AI a period, and

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Speaker 6: I know they're gonna be here in DC with us.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure.

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01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 6: I hope you coming this year.

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Speaker 7: Obi.

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 6: I know you can do a lot of stuff technologically

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01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 6: from coast to coast, but I hope you're coming physically

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01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 6: doing Quansa this year. And they talk a little bit

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01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 6: about how people can get back with him, contact with

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01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 6: his company, contact with the work, how people can be supportive.

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Speaker 6: That to me is very important because it's not just

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01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 6: about hearing about positive things, it's about getting involved with

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01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 6: positive things. So I'll stop on that point call. And

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Speaker 6: that's why I say state of the race, because sometimes

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01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 6: we always look at the state of the dooming, gloom

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01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 6: and doom, but we need to look at the state

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 6: of the rates as on high going forward. And that's

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Speaker 6: why I wanted Obie to come on to talk about AI,

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01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 6: because I know Obi is in French ancestral intelligence as

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Speaker 6: well as he's working and using artificial intelligence to push

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Speaker 6: us forward.

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Speaker 1: Me brother Obi, they said, Manes waving to any other

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01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters in Hollywood doing what you're.

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01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 11: Doing did you know of Absolutely?

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01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 8: Absolutely. I mean there's a lot of conscious brothers and

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01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 8: sesses uh. And I'm not I'm not a judgement where

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01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 8: someone's level of consciousness is, but people that I would

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01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 8: perceive as being conscious brothers. There's a there's an organization

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01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 8: that we work with, African Artists Association, the Three A's,

1510
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 8: which is pushing just the game forward in terms of

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01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:57,520
Speaker 8: just being in production and being of African descent in Hollywood.

1512
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 8: And they're an excellent organization and they bring people from

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01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 8: all over the diaspora together to work on productions, not

1514
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 8: just AI productions, but I mean all kind of productions, uh,

1515
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 8: film productions, documentaries, stories about Africa, things that you've never, never,

1516
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 8: never seen before. And they bring in the best people

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01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 8: into to have meetings and discussions about these kinds of things.

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01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 8: So they're they're a wonderful organization that we we we

1519
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 8: work with from time to time throughout the year that

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01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 8: I definitely want to shout them out, but also wanted

1521
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 8: to say uh. And my wife pointed this out to me,

1522
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 8: she should, you know, everybody has a different role, everybody

1523
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,560
Speaker 8: has a different has a destiny. You're going to have

1524
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 8: some people that are consciousness oriented who work inside the

1525
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 8: system and bring in that good intel back to us

1526
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 8: so that we can up our game.

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01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 7: Right.

1528
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 8: But then you have some people that work inside the

1529
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 8: system and they bringing in the intel, their consciousness level

1530
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 8: is maybe not not not there yet and that's not

1531
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 8: their destiny. But then there's some people who work outside

1532
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 8: of these different systems, and you know, they're piece of

1533
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 8: stuff together on the grassroot with consciousness and building new concepts,

1534
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 8: the new constructs to try to move move, move the

1535
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 8: game forward. So that's definitely happening. And you know what

1536
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 8: role you play, You know, hopefully ultimately you know, you

1537
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 8: never know necessarily what somebody has in their hearts. Sometimes

1538
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 8: you see a movie, you see a production, you know

1539
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 8: what did long game is? You might see this short game,

1540
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 8: but you never.

1541
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 7: Know what did long game is?

1542
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 8: And I'm always I'm pleasant.

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01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: I got a quick question for you, though, brother Obie.

1544
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: The movies that you do, the people in your field,

1545
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 1: the do movies using AI aut of field intelligence, Well,

1546
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: will the viewer, like myself or people listening right now,

1547
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: we take a look at it, will we tell can

1548
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: we tell difference that this was a traditional movie with

1549
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 1: a set grips and you know, be able dressed up

1550
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 1: and yeah, could we tell the difference.

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01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, well the stuff that we're doing. Last year,

1552
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 8: when we first did the first Spirits and Shape Spaceships,

1553
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 8: because of where AI technology was as far as video

1554
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 8: generating I means generating videos from typing in different prompts

1555
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 8: and generating different angles, right, it was when we showed

1556
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 8: that people's people were blown away by it, it looked

1557
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 8: more animation than it did video. I mean then it

1558
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 8: did actual film, right, but it was still cool. I mean,

1559
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 8: you know, some of the best movies that people enjoyed

1560
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 8: our animation movies.

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01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 7: Right.

1562
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 8: This year we up the level because AI video generation

1563
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 8: picture generation has grown so fast and so quick that

1564
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 8: it still looks had an animation look, but that's kind

1565
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 8: of the look that we were going for, right, So,

1566
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,879
Speaker 8: and but it was it was even more more amazing.

1567
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 8: And what's happening is we're kind of taking people not

1568
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 8: just on the evolution of the series Spirits and Spaceships

1569
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,560
Speaker 8: as we do each episode, we're taking people in the

1570
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 8: evolution of the progress of video generating AI technology as well.

1571
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 8: So next year it'll be crazier and yeah, that it

1572
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 8: will be even crazier what I realized when we realize

1573
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 8: even making the book AI and Black People, the most

1574
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 8: challenging part is the fact that the technology is changing

1575
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 8: so fast and being upgraded so quickly. Sometimes it's hard

1576
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 8: to keep up. And this year, just in the last

1577
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 8: three months, I've had the upgrade parts of the book.

1578
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 8: I've had up great parts of our Spiritual Spaceship Show

1579
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 8: just to keep up with the time. And right now,

1580
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 8: there are videos out there, especially created by programs like

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01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 8: Store two, just generic granet, very videos on Instagram that

1582
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 8: look absolutely real, they like social media clips and people

1583
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 8: just walking down the street, but they're not. So that's

1584
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 8: an interact. We'll talk about that. I talk about that

1585
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,719
Speaker 8: in the book, but that's another interesting thing. We definitely

1586
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 8: need to talk about the positives and negatives of that.

1587
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 8: But right now, let me just say this real quick,

1588
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,560
Speaker 8: based on another thing that Singor said, I got to

1589
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 8: do a special shout out to my business partner, uh

1590
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 8: Carlaminica cheps To Holly is the CEO of het Rod.

1591
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 8: That's our company that that does spirits and spaceships, the

1592
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 8: AI productions, but like I said, we also do traditional

1593
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 8: productions and the Holly Girls this year are going who

1594
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 8: are our daughters. They also have their own company of

1595
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,839
Speaker 8: their own brand. They do traditional movies, they do songs, music, fashion.

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01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 8: This year they'll be and Holly Girls is with a

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01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 8: Z so you can look them up on Instagram as well.

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01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,560
Speaker 8: H O L L Y G I R l Z.

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01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, right there, brother Obi, hold onu thort right there,

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01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 1: Step aside real quick. I'm taking another look at the

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01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: traffic and weather in a different cities. I'll let you

1603
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: finish that story when you come back. And also I

1604
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 1: want to ask you too, are you going to enter

1605
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: some of your movies into the Pan African Film Professional

1606
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 1: out in LA because that's out there too and that

1607
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: will get you some more exposure three minutes away from

1608
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: the top of day our family. If you're just checking in,

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01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,520
Speaker 1: I guess his brother Obi Holly he's an AI producers

1610
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: making movies using AI and also brother sing go by

1611
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 1: as with us and you know him as a Garveyite.

1612
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: You want to join this conversation, hit us up at

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01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 1: eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll

1614
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: ticket calls after the trafficking weather together. That's next and

1615
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: grind Rising family. Thanks for staying with us on this

1616
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Here the momentary, we're going to speak with

1617
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: Pan africanists and critical thinking scholar, doctor David Horn right

1618
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,560
Speaker 1: now with brother Seingo bay A, he's a Garveyite, and

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01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: also brother Ob Holly. He's an AI producer. He's making

1620
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: movies for us about us, and he's but he's using

1621
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: AI artificial intelligence. And my question to him is his

1622
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 1: productions are they ready to go to say the Pan

1623
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: African film Fester in La or the Black Filmfesteral takes

1624
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: place in Miami Beach. And the second question is brother

1625
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 1: Obi shot. They have a separate category for traditional films

1626
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,759
Speaker 1: and for AI generated films.

1627
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, as far as the categories go. I think

1628
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 8: what's happening is as the technology moves forward, there's going

1629
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 8: to have to be Right now, they have all kinds

1630
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 8: of AI film festivals that have been popping up over

1631
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,799
Speaker 8: the last year, and they've been growing as the technology

1632
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 8: have been growing. So you can just go online and

1633
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 8: type in Google or whatever platform and type in AI

1634
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 8: film festivals and and but as the technology grows, more

1635
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 8: and more film festivals are starting to include and talk

1636
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 8: about AI film screenings and stuff, and of course, like

1637
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 8: you said earlier, there's definitely concerns about acting, lighting, all

1638
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 8: those kinds of issues that are that that are that

1639
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 8: are a major concern right now in the industry.

1640
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

1641
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 8: And there are even regulations that are being put in

1642
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 8: place from everything from music production to film production and

1643
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 8: other productions, you know, to secure jobs and try to

1644
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 8: regulate some things. We'll see, We're too early in the

1645
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 8: game to know how these things are going to all

1646
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 8: work out right now, but definitely AI film festivals, what

1647
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:58,600
Speaker 8: we're doing, we will be expanding to all kinds of

1648
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 8: film festivals like that. We love that film festival in

1649
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 8: La every every year. But what we're doing right now,

1650
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 8: we've been doing screenings kind of like exclusive private screenings

1651
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 8: to kind of get the work going about Spears and Spaceships,

1652
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 8: which is our flagship AI production. But we have other

1653
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 8: AI productions, and we have other traditional productions as well

1654
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 8: that are non AI productions that we that we are

1655
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 8: involved and haven't been involved in. But our flagship ship

1656
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 8: AI production, Spirits and Spaceships, and we're doing screenings and

1657
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 8: like we did on Friday about a single day was

1658
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 8: a part of but we're also to be doing some

1659
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 8: school screenings at different black schools across the country. And

1660
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 8: so if you want to find out more about about

1661
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 8: those kinds of things, you want one at your school,

1662
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 8: go on to AI and black people dot com and

1663
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 8: you can register your information on there, and there's a

1664
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 8: little paragraph about Spirits and Spaceships also stuff about the book,

1665
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 8: and we'll follow up with you as far as showing

1666
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 8: this particular episode which is actually the second episode of

1667
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 8: Spirits Spaceships the series. This Kwanza on we have the

1668
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 8: Ujima Joint and Ujima Joint is our ku Kwanza celebration

1669
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 8: which we've been doing for over thirty years on December

1670
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 8: the twenty eighth in Washington, d C. And but last

1671
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 8: year for folks that came out, we actually showed episode

1672
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 8: one of the Spirits and Spaceships at the event to

1673
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 8: an amazing applause. But we also did a torch passing

1674
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 8: to the youth or younger people to uh for this

1675
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 8: particular Quantita event. Like like I said before, we've been

1676
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 8: doing it for thirty years. But our our children grew

1677
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 8: up in it, and other children are see soul her

1678
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 8: children grew up in it. Who's our our kwansa partner,

1679
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 8: and so this year we're passing the torch and we're

1680
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 8: talking about pop Nativity with the youth so that they

1681
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 8: can fearhead that particular production. The worthy event is going

1682
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 8: to be on December to twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.

1683
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 8: I don't know the address yet, but it will be

1684
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 8: on uh, it will be on the Internet, it will

1685
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 8: be on the quans of Calendar, it will be available

1686
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 8: in the and it'll be it'll be it'll be everywhere,

1687
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 8: and maybe we'll get back on here and and talk

1688
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 8: about it like we did last year.

1689
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, let's do that for sure.

1690
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,560
Speaker 1: But let me ask youself, if you even considered like

1691
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 1: getting it on one of these other platforms that you know,

1692
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: not this Netflix or b et or TV one or

1693
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: something like that, if you approach them about counting the.

1694
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 8: Series, Oh no, no, we we're we're definitely looking at

1695
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 8: a lot of different operas because I mean, like, these

1696
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 8: stories are big, they're amazing, and they are not everybody's

1697
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 8: you know, they're black or fundamentally in terms of characters.

1698
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 8: But the idea of good versus evil, the idea truggle

1699
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 8: uplist of listing yourselves all these kinds of things. I mean,

1700
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 8: these are international stories that anybody can relate to. And yes,

1701
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 8: these platforms already tell similar stories, they don't tell nothing

1702
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 8: as unique as this. I have to put ourselves on

1703
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 8: the back. But absolutely we're definitely looking.

1704
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 7: At them.

1705
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 9: For potential.

1706
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 8: But we're not We're not We're not looking at any

1707
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 8: platform right now as verification. We've already we're already verified

1708
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 8: and and our audiences has already verified the production. But

1709
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 8: also not just spirits and Spaces, we have other AI

1710
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 8: content that we're looking at for distribution as well. So

1711
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 8: but ultimately, ultimately we're we're going to be Ultimately, Ultimately,

1712
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 8: we as as black people have to distribute our own

1713
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 8: content and.

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01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 9: Media.

1715
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: Yes twice on that one. Before I let you fellas go, though,

1716
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,799
Speaker 1: I want you to say hi to dot. David Horney's

1717
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 1: going to take the baton from you, guys. Brother got

1718
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 1: doctor Horne with us, Grand rising Doctor Horn.

1719
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 7: Good morning to everybody, and uh single, oh yeah, I'll

1720
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 7: be talking to you a little earlier today. But the

1721
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 7: brother needs to keep on pushing the whole idea uh

1722
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:27,759
Speaker 7: of uh the film festival. That kind of communication is crucial.

1723
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 6: So David David. Good morning, David, good morning. When we

1724
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 6: held the convention out in l A, you.

1725
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 7: Met brother Obi and his wife.

1726
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 5: Oh.

1727
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 6: Brother Obi Obie is a gigantic creative artist. I like

1728
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 6: to call him one of the one of the most

1729
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 6: powerful blacktistity poets on the planet. He didn't talk about that.

1730
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 6: He didn't talk too much about his powerful daughters, his

1731
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 6: poor daughters that are doing the Holly girls, uh, that

1732
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 6: are doing great work at his queen. However, he will

1733
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 6: be back with us. But I just wanted to say

1734
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 6: hello to you, David, and I wanted to bring Little

1735
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 6: Africa La on you. Both are in LA right now

1736
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 6: and reopen. But but but but the water don't separate us.

1737
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 6: But I also want to put a plug in call

1738
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 6: before I go real quickly. Everybody should know how to

1739
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 6: get with me.

1740
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 10: S N G.

1741
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 6: H O R B at hotmail dot com. I can

1742
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 6: put you in touch with everybody that I talked about

1743
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 6: this morning. But I also want to put a plug

1744
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 6: in David for you your culture. David, and let y'all go.

1745
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 6: And that is Chief J told me to tell everybody

1746
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 6: that you can get his hard copy book now on

1747
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 6: Amazon and its calls Gula sovereignty and it's very important.

1748
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 6: I mean, I told everybody how they could get it online.

1749
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 6: I got a copy, but you can get the hard

1750
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 6: copy now at Amazon. And I say that because Call

1751
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 6: may not know, but David, you want to have powerful

1752
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 6: Gulla brothers that come from down in Florida area.

1753
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 7: So that's right, that's right for all that know.

1754
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 6: Gula is very important to all black people in North

1755
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 6: America though, so it's important for people to check out

1756
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 6: that Galla sovereignty so you can see the connection of

1757
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 6: Africa and the North America where it relates to African culture.

1758
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 6: And I know, David, you're gonna light us up with

1759
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,560
Speaker 6: what's going on with these crazy yurugu and all this

1760
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 6: crazy stuff going on.

1761
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 11: I know.

1762
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 7: This up.

1763
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 6: But Caaul, thank you, call so much, Obi, thank you

1764
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 6: so much. I want people to understand we need our

1765
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 6: own Project twenty twenty five to move forward so we

1766
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:41,600
Speaker 6: can survive this your Pugu twenty twenty five manifesting this

1767
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 6: year because it ain't stopping. It's gonna keep going and

1768
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 6: we got to deal with it. And I know doctor

1769
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 6: Horne is gonna tell give us ways and means of

1770
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 6: how we can create our own black print that we

1771
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:54,759
Speaker 6: don't have going forward. Gody lives. Thank you called Gody lives.

1772
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 6: God We lives.

1773
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,799
Speaker 1: Thank you brother, Thank you brother. Be all right family

1774
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 1: before you go real quick, brother Obi. People want to

1775
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 1: know where they find your book. How can get a

1776
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 1: complies of your book?

1777
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 7: Oh?

1778
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 8: Yes, h AI and Black people dot Com?

1779
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 4: Okay cool AI? Yeah, black people dot Com?

1780
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 7: And keep all right brother.

1781
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 1: That's brother, brother Obi Holly. He's a movie producer. He

1782
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 1: uses AI. You know, if he's using the talents that

1783
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: he has and using the new technology of Hey, you

1784
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: don't need you know, set the designer. You don't need

1785
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 1: a wardrobe person, a makeup person, a grip, a sound

1786
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: guy lighting, all of that kind of stuff. You can

1787
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 1: just use AI and make movies. That's what we're doing

1788
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 1: and making movies.

1789
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 3: First.

1790
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you, brother Obie, and hopefully

1791
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: we inspire some more people who are listening this morning

1792
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 1: to get in the game as well. We need more

1793
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 1: of us to tell our stories. Thank you, brother Obi,

1794
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 1: and thank you brother saying God for joind us this morning.

1795
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 4: Twelve minutes.

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01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 8: Just also one point out that we definitely do additional

1797
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 8: productions as well, and.

1798
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 7: I wish we had time to talk about centers before

1799
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 7: you got off, but I know you gotta go. Oh centers.

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01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: Okay, next time we'll talk about sentners. Okay, okay, all right,

1801
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 1: thank you brother, oh b thank you, brother saying twelve

1802
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 1: after top of the family. I guess it's doctor David Horn.

1803
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: Doctor Horn's a Pan Africanist, as you heard, he's also

1804
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 1: a critical thinking scholar. He taught that in college, told

1805
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: people to become critical thinkers. And that's what we're trying

1806
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 1: to do every day here, trying to make people think

1807
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 1: for themselves. You know, when we say free your mind,

1808
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: that what he means, think for yourself, becoming critical thinkers.

1809
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 1: But doctor Horn, you say, now this is the time

1810
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 1: for us to create our own black agenda. You say

1811
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 1: we should use it messing the new energy of the

1812
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,639
Speaker 1: younger generation with the experience of the elders.

1813
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 4: Can you explain that for us?

1814
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 7: Yeah? I can. The issue is simply that what we

1815
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 7: have been able to establish at black folk here now, uh,

1816
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 7: in terms of gaining integrity, gaining recognition, gaining landed Uh, progress,

1817
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 7: that's in danger.

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01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 5: Uh.

1819
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 6: You know you have.

1820
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:21,759
Speaker 7: Somebody who's in charge of the government now who reminds

1821
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 7: people of Uh, the Confederates who took charge of the

1822
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 7: South and caused the Civil War.

1823
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 9: UH.

1824
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 7: The you know, looking at at what had been done

1825
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 7: to the black community during the uh, this particular administration,

1826
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 7: even though we are not even a full year in

1827
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 7: it yet. The uh you know, the over three hundred

1828
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 7: thousand black federal workers being dismissed, being fired, you know,

1829
01:40:55,360 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 7: the serious attack on black museums, on the since Smithsonian,

1830
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 7: on the African American Museum, cultural all the cultural production

1831
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 7: that black folk have done in this country. Uh, the

1832
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 7: attack on public education and what we have contributed to

1833
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 7: the history of this country, the growth and development of

1834
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 7: this country. All of that's in danger now. So the

1835
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 7: youth are going to have to come up with another

1836
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 7: game plan to respond to the to this new danger.

1837
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:41,720
Speaker 7: If there is no new plan, what we have been

1838
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 7: doing for the last three hundred years kind of goes

1839
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 7: in their toilet, because you have the you know, the

1840
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 7: taking charge of the government by people who don't seem

1841
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 7: to care about law, They don't seem to care about spiritualities.

1842
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 7: They only care about power, the only care about I'm

1843
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 7: in charge. I'm going to force onto you whatever I

1844
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 7: want to. A young folk are going to have to

1845
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 7: come up with a different plan, a plan for uh,

1846
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 7: you know, which may include AI, which may include a

1847
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 7: whole lot of new stuff. But they're going to have

1848
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 7: to come up with a new plan for what black

1849
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 7: folk have to have if we're going to spend this country.

1850
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 1: Thank you that part Dr Horn about him. If we

1851
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 1: stay in this country because some folks want to cut

1852
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,560
Speaker 1: and run, are you opposed to that or do you

1853
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 1: think we should stay in fight?

1854
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm not opposed to that at all. I'm not

1855
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 7: and I'm not saying cut and run. I wouldn't put

1856
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 7: it that way. I think because we have gained a

1857
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 7: lot of wisdom and a lot of experience and what

1858
01:42:55,680 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 7: we've had to deal with in this hellhole called America,

1859
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 7: that we need to expand our options. What I'm what

1860
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 7: I'm advocating is that we need to get dual citizenships

1861
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 7: in other places in the world. In other words, we

1862
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 7: need to have a place to go if things get

1863
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 7: too crazy over here, if the Ice starts attacking Black

1864
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 7: folks like they are attacking Latinos, you know, we need

1865
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 7: to have another place to go. And so, yeah, we

1866
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:49,759
Speaker 7: I'm advocating African citizenships for anybody interested in having another

1867
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:52,640
Speaker 7: place to go. Ghana is a good place. You know.

1868
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 7: They have a very good program for dual citizenships here

1869
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 7: early on to uh.

1870
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: Yeah and hold doc, I just looked looked at the cocky.

1871
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 1: We got to take a break at seventeen after the top.

1872
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 1: Day'll let you finish your thought when we get back.

1873
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 1: You want to join our discussion with doctor David Horn,

1874
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 1: reach out to us at eight hundred and four or

1875
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we took all

1876
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 1: these phone calls. Next and grant rising family, and thanks

1877
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 1: for staying with us on this Tuesday morning, twenty one

1878
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 1: minutes after the top of the hour with that guest

1879
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 1: that doctor David Horn. As I mentioned, doctor Horne is

1880
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 1: at Panapricus and a critical thinking scholar. He taught critical

1881
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: thinking and college. This is something that we we implore

1882
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,799
Speaker 1: folks to do on this program to be critical thinkers.

1883
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 1: You think for yourself, free your mind, is what we say,

1884
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: and that's what that means. Think for yourself. And this

1885
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 1: is what doctor doctor Horn teaches or taught in the

1886
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: collegiate level. Doctor Horn, you've given us some ideas for

1887
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 1: folks who you know because she says that things get crazy.

1888
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 1: Every time we think it can get crazy, it goes

1889
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 1: to another level. You know, you think, wow, is it

1890
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: this is we stave haven't been a full year yet

1891
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:00,520
Speaker 1: with this is administration.

1892
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 7: But you're saying for the films who they had a plan.

1893
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 1: Right, But well, I understand that all that plan is

1894
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: almost twenty twenty five. Project twenty twenty five. Well, all

1895
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:14,719
Speaker 1: the the homemarks of that plane were just about completing,

1896
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 1: so they've got to take it to the next level.

1897
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: So we will wait and see what whatever that is.

1898
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 1: Because obviously they've succeeded in what they said they were

1899
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 1: going to do, So what's the next level? So most

1900
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:25,560
Speaker 1: of us who've seen that when falling, what's going on

1901
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: a waiting for what's the next step because, as we

1902
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 1: mentioned Project twenty twenty five outline, they told us what

1903
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 1: they're going to do, and they've accomplished most of it,

1904
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 1: at least ninety percent of what they're going to do,

1905
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: So let's see what's what's the next level. But you're

1906
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 1: saying that for us folks, for folks who want to

1907
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 1: stay here, though we should, we should also have a plan, correct,

1908
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 1: we must.

1909
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 7: We must have a plan. Yeah, we we we we

1910
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 7: need to lay out exactly what we need to be

1911
01:45:53,320 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 7: successful and productive and if we want to call that happy,

1912
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 7: we must have our plans for our development for us.

1913
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:12,720
Speaker 7: We cannot depend on other people to take care of us.

1914
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 7: We cannot depend on people who are not us to

1915
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 7: be mindful of us. Yeah. And so what I'm advocating

1916
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:32,799
Speaker 7: is wherever forward thinking African people live in this country,

1917
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 7: we need to be having think tanks. We need to

1918
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:47,600
Speaker 7: have a series of sessions where folk who understand the

1919
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:52,760
Speaker 7: necessity of laying out a plan to move forward have

1920
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 7: to get together and work that out, not get together

1921
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:57,679
Speaker 7: and call each other a bunch of names. Not crazy.

1922
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 7: This is now the time to lay out plans to

1923
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 7: move forward. So, yeah, I'm advocating that. We Let me

1924
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 7: give you an example in California. You know, we still

1925
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 7: have a number of folks who are advocating reparations as

1926
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 7: we do another part of the country. And that's great,

1927
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 7: but right now that's not on the table for the

1928
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Speaker 7: people who are in charge of state government. They have

1929
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Speaker 7: talked a little about it, they've shown some interest, and

1930
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Speaker 7: now they've moved on. If reparations are still part of

1931
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Speaker 7: our agenda still part of our plan for the future.

1932
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Speaker 7: We need to lay out there's steps in that plan

1933
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 7: because nobody else is paying attention. In spite of all

1934
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 7: that we have were in California, the study, you know,

1935
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 7: the legislative interest. We have not gotten it and it's

1936
01:47:56,479 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 7: not going to come unless we we African folk, sit down,

1937
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 7: parley we not. We need to sit down, respect each

1938
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 7: other and lay out some plans. Not argue and call

1939
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 7: it judge of a bunch of names. We need to

1940
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Speaker 7: plan to move forward. Yeah, that's what i'mnavigating.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, the plans for reparation as have they've

1942
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Speaker 1: fallen by the wayside. They waned a little bit because

1943
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 1: of what's going on in the country right now.

1944
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Speaker 7: They have waned because we got stale. We got stale

1945
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 7: and what we were asking, we've been focused on white people.

1946
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 7: You did us wrong. You have to admit that you

1947
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 7: did us wrong and and and show us some digest.

1948
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 7: You have to show us some kind of payment, some

1949
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 7: kind of result of your feeling sorry. In other words,

1950
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 7: set up a commission to study who was and was

1951
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 7: not a slave and where they're am sisters, where they're

1952
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 7: where their family members now live. So they can be compensated.

1953
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 7: We need you to do that. Well, white people have

1954
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 7: decided no, we're not going to do that, so do

1955
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 7: we And since we don't have any plans to make

1956
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 7: them do it, we need to come up with some

1957
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 7: alternative plans that we are going to be successful. And

1958
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 7: we have not done that in California yet. We are

1959
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 7: still attacking black legislators who cannot get passed what we

1960
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,719
Speaker 7: think needs to be passed. So you got black folks

1961
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 7: from the community going to the state capital, basically grabbing

1962
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 7: state legislators, black state legislators, buy their coat, their coat,

1963
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Speaker 7: arms and stuff.

1964
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Speaker 5: And.

1965
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Speaker 7: Basically fussing at them, attacking them, calling a lot of

1966
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 7: their names because they were unsuccessful in getting the other

1967
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 7: white legislators and the governor to give us what we

1968
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 7: said we wanted. It didn't happen last year, it did

1969
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,519
Speaker 7: not happen this year. It's not going to happen next

1970
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 7: year unless we change our plan. We need to have

1971
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 7: a plan to move forward, and we don't really have that.

1972
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 7: Too much action out left planning twenty.

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Speaker 1: Eight After top that with doctor David Horn, Doctor Horne

1974
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 1: is telling us we need a plan family. We just

1975
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 1: don't have a plan. We're just floating through life without

1976
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: a plan. Other folks, they always have a plan, and

1977
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 1: we're part of their planning, so they stay on colder.

1978
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:42,680
Speaker 1: That's what Neelie Fuller's been teaching.

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Speaker 10: Us to do.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six.

1981
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Speaker 1: John is calling from DC as a question for doctor

1982
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Speaker 1: Hornet's on line one Grand Rising Johnny on with doctor

1983
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Speaker 1: horn Hey.

1984
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Speaker 7: Brother, are you doing the Grand Rising? Brother? Uh ra rising?

1985
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,640
Speaker 9: Gear? I want I want to make a comment and

1986
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 9: ask you, how do you feel the number one organizing

1987
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 9: principle of any society is for war. The authority of

1988
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 9: the state over its people resides in its war power policies. Now,

1989
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:25,759
Speaker 9: it's been an ongoing controversial conversation on this show. Should

1990
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 9: our young people or people in general, go into the

1991
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 9: military as they're moving these troops right now, as we're

1992
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 9: speaking into Venezeuela planning an unjust war to take these

1993
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:47,679
Speaker 9: people's oil, What say you, sir, to our young people,

1994
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 9: about participating in this genocidal war they're planning in this

1995
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 9: military unjustly? What do you say that's it.

1996
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Speaker 8: Won?

1997
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 7: The participation in the seizing of anybody else's property we

1998
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 7: need to stay away from. But joining your military is

1999
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 7: a quality job, quality employment. So we don't want to

2000
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 7: tell our youth not to take good jobs. But I

2001
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 7: agree with you that the leadership of the American military

2002
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 7: is incompetent. It's crazy, I mean, except should not be

2003
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 7: in charge of anybody's military. The issue that you were

2004
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 7: raising about Venezuela, that goes back to the Monroe Doctrine,

2005
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 7: already back to eighteen twenty three when it was decided

2006
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 7: by the American president at the time that South America,

2007
01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:00,839
Speaker 7: Central America, the Caribbean islands, they belong to this country,

2008
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 7: you know, because we are bigger and stronger than anybody else.

2009
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 7: We are in charge and we can come to any

2010
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 7: of your areas and take what we want from you.

2011
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 7: That's been part and part of the American government since

2012
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 7: the nineteenth century. Most presidents have not enforced that idea,

2013
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 7: although it was always understood. The president we have now

2014
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,839
Speaker 7: because you have to know how to be president is shaking.

2015
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 7: During that jinguistic shaking, what we called sword rattling, you're

2016
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 7: doing that again talking about I'm stronger than you, so

2017
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 7: I'll take what i want. I'll push you around. They

2018
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 7: are murdering people. They're not having in their trials. They're

2019
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 7: not deciding that we have real evidence against you as

2020
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 7: a drug trafficker. We're just blowing people up out of

2021
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,600
Speaker 7: the water so that we can and didn't lead that

2022
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 7: to try an attempted to takeover of a country that

2023
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 7: we believe we own. Anyway, America owned everything here. That's

2024
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 7: what the Monroe Doctrine said. In terms of young people

2025
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 7: joining a military, which may order them to go and

2026
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 7: seize other people's property. Uh, now, I'm not in favor

2027
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 7: of that at all. But I am in favor of

2028
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 7: young people getting jobs, and the military is a very

2029
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 7: decent job.

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Speaker 1: Got you, Thanks John, Thanks your call. But you know,

2031
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 1: doctor Horne, going back to some of the other you know,

2032
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 1: save Vietnam for example, and I think that we swear

2033
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 1: John was going with this question where our people, our

2034
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 1: brothers at the time, we'll put on the front line,

2035
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 1: and we.

2036
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 7: Took them and Dad very very quickly, you know, seconds

2037
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 7: from getting to out of the boat. If you got

2038
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 7: out of the boat, we were killed. Yeah. That and

2039
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 7: I don't remember Vietnam. I was supposed to be going

2040
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 7: to Vietnam, and I refused to go.

2041
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but some of these younger folks don't know what

2042
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 1: happened in Vietnam. There's a whole you know. They joined

2043
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 1: the military. Kevin is one of them, and they had

2044
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 1: they had a good time, they weren't. You know, Kevin,

2045
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 1: you can chine in if you want. He went into

2046
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: the Navy. But it was a different era then, you know,

2047
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 1: from the folks. I remember Vietnam as well.

2048
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 4: People.

2049
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 1: Look, I remember in peace driving around my neighborhood looking

2050
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 1: for folks. Some brothers who had got out and disappeared,

2051
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:51,160
Speaker 1: and the brothers who came back, every single one of

2052
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 1: them seemed to have some sort of problem, emotional problem,

2053
01:55:54,560 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, that physical problem and an agent orange and

2054
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 1: all that was was taking place. So I think it's

2055
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a generational thing whether or not you

2056
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 1: should join the military. Because you said, you mentioned there

2057
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: was there was there's great things or great advantages when

2058
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 1: he joined the military. But at one time, correct me

2059
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong though, that when our folks went joined

2060
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 1: the military, when they got back, the GI bill was

2061
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 1: they didn't get the rewards of the GI build and

2062
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 1: the Whites Builtic folks got the rewards of the GI Bill.

2063
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 4: Do you have any information about that?

2064
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 7: And now you're quite right. The even though the GI

2065
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 7: Bill was supposed to cover any American who has served,

2066
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 7: for the most part, people who had to implement the

2067
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 7: GI Bill were like the same people who were implementing

2068
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 7: insurance policies and building policies and different parts of the

2069
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 7: country there racious attal. So a lot of folks who

2070
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 7: were veterans, were black veterans, did not get a chance

2071
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 7: to enjoy, you know, the GI Bill, you know, get

2072
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 7: money to go to college, get money to buy a house,

2073
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 7: get money to provide for a family. Again, that was

2074
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 7: not because the legislation was not there. That was not

2075
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 7: because it was not in the plan. It was because

2076
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 7: of the people who were implementing they were racist. And yeah,

2077
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 7: we did not get a lot of what we were

2078
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 7: supposed to have gotten. And I would imagine since being

2079
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 7: in the military means that you have to follow the

2080
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 7: orders of somebody else, that we will not get everything

2081
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 7: that we need for our own development by joining the

2082
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 7: American military. But again it is a decent job.

2083
01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 1: Well, I got a tweet for you at twenty six

2084
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 1: away from the Top down two that says Marco Rubio

2085
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 1: is leading this charge. He has known that Trump has

2086
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 1: been trying to build resorts in Cuba and Venezuela for years.

2087
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,200
Speaker 1: And the answer is always know and that person it's

2088
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 1: the answer is not to join them, not to get

2089
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 1: involved in the fight. If the troops are sent to Venezuela,

2090
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 1: troops on the ground, that is because he's saying that

2091
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 1: we've got warships in the Caribrian surrounding there. Trend down

2092
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 1: Tobago is giving them an okay to have their worships there.

2093
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 1: So for some people say no, so so who are

2094
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 1: the people are saying yes, Uh, the.

2095
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 7: The people who basically are agreeing with part of what

2096
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 7: I said about. Look, joining your military is a job.

2097
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 7: It has a lot of developmental steps. You do have

2098
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 7: to follow somebody else's order, but it is good for

2099
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 7: you know, the rewards that come out of it in

2100
01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 7: terms of building a family, that kind of thing. I'm

2101
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 7: not a military person, but and when they give you

2102
01:58:56,880 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 7: an order which is against your principles, you have to

2103
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 7: be able to step back and say I'm not doing that.

2104
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 7: But you know that's very hard to do. You know,

2105
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 7: once you are in the military, it's a diceary situation.

2106
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 7: It is a come see, comes out kind of thing.

2107
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 7: It's not. There is no definitive answer anybody can give

2108
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 7: you for you should join the military or you should

2109
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 7: not join the military. There is no definitive answer.

2110
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. And there's the stories too.

2111
01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 1: Now they route into up immigrants on documented immigrants, and

2112
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 1: there's a few who were promised the citizenship once they

2113
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 1: joined the military and fought for this country one and

2114
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 1: got a purple heart and got kicked out as the

2115
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,840
Speaker 1: country renegged on those promises. And those are the people

2116
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 1: are supposed to be fighting for us. Your thoughts though,

2117
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 1: that that's.

2118
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:52,640
Speaker 7: Because we have leadership right now which does not respect

2119
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:58,080
Speaker 7: the military. You know, you have people who who never served.

2120
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 7: Trump never served. He was a draft dodger. Uh, heakesleft,

2121
02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 7: you know. Basically the little he has done in the military,

2122
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 7: he had an under damn bank. He he has been

2123
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 7: in almost an hour an hour two c kind of person.

2124
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 7: The you you know, the military is right now being

2125
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:21,800
Speaker 7: led by non military people, and that is their problem

2126
02:00:22,240 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 7: because they want to misuse the military. The military can

2127
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:30,520
Speaker 7: be a force for good, but in the hands of

2128
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:35,920
Speaker 7: criminals and in the hands of wrongdoers, the military can

2129
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 7: be misused, and this particular military in the United States

2130
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:46,880
Speaker 7: is right now the most powerful military in history. Does

2131
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 7: not mean they cannot be defeated, but it has a

2132
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:54,680
Speaker 7: lot of weapons, more weapons than anybody else, including to

2133
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 7: show their union or China and China is close though.

2134
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 1: Hold that thought right there, doctor, We're gonna step aside

2135
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:03,920
Speaker 1: for a few moments and we talked about the military family.

2136
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 1: I remember Geronimo Pratt. He went to Vietnap, learned how

2137
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 1: how to fight, and came back and taught the brothers

2138
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:10,960
Speaker 1: in the streets how to fight.

2139
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:11,840
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts?

2140
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred and four or

2141
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we take your

2142
02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:19,480
Speaker 1: phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling

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Speaker 1: with us on this Tuesday morning with our guest doctor

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Speaker 1: David Horn. Doctor Horne is a panafres and also a

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Speaker 1: critical thinking scholar. It taught that at the college level.

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Speaker 1: Before we go back to the elements, remind you coming

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Speaker 1: up in the next few days, we're going to speak

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Speaker 1: with Grio Professor James Small will be here. Also a

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Speaker 1: natural pathic doctor Scott Whitaker will join us. So if

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Speaker 1: you are in Baltimore. Make sure you keep your radar

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Speaker 1: locked in tight on ten ten w Olb or in

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Speaker 1: the DMV run fourteen fifty wl Dr Horne before we

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Speaker 1: take a coffee. I just wanted somebody tweeted in response

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Speaker 1: to that tweet who said that Donald Trump was trying

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Speaker 1: the Trump's administration's trying to build resorts in Venezuela and Cuba. Well,

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Speaker 1: from a conversation with marcol Manham says, no, they want

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Speaker 1: the oil that's there. They want the minerals that are

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Speaker 1: in Venezuela, and it's it's only one place that they

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Speaker 1: can be refined to us by the Koch brothers. So

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Speaker 1: that's a connection there. They're really not you know, they're

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Speaker 1: talking about regime change. They're not talking about peace. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's covered with all that. So I want to get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 7: Well, I agree he had a little to do with peace.

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Speaker 7: This has to do with again, if people go back

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Speaker 7: and look at the Monroe Doctrine that was established in

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Speaker 7: this country by President Monroe in eighteen hundreds, you see

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Speaker 7: this whole idea that America, United States is in charge

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Speaker 7: of the entire hemistry. You know, it's like that that

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Speaker 7: attitude that Trump had about this is not the Gulf

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Speaker 7: of Mexico. This is the Gulf of America. All of

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Speaker 7: this is American. We can do what we want with

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Speaker 7: any area or any territory within our realm. This is

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Speaker 7: a continuation of that. This is not just about oil.

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Speaker 7: This is about control and dominance. It is the fatal

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Speaker 7: flaw of white people being in charge. If you look

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Speaker 7: back at the history of so called Western civilization, for

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Speaker 7: every development forward, for every civilized development forward, education, religion, housing, infrastructure, etc.

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Speaker 7: For every one of those developments that have been this

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Speaker 7: backward step, somebody had to be in charge of the

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Speaker 7: military and dominate. We have to take what we want,

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Speaker 7: We have to force people to do what we want,

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Speaker 7: and they end up killing everybody. The history of white

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Speaker 7: people for being in charge is death and destruction because

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Speaker 7: eventually we are going to try to force people to

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Speaker 7: do what we want when we want them to do it.

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Speaker 7: And that's where we are right now. That's why we

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Speaker 7: need another option. We need to figure out what are

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Speaker 7: we going to do if they go If they go

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Speaker 7: crazy as we think they're going to go, they're going

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Speaker 7: to do. It's not just about the aill in Venezuela.

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Speaker 7: This is just about American power. We can do what

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Speaker 7: we want with whoever we want, whenever we want to.

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Speaker 7: That's that logic, logical power.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen away from the top of our Doctor Horn Johnny's

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Speaker 1: calling from Long Beach out in California is online one

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Speaker 1: grand Rising Johnny on with doctor Horns.

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Speaker 12: Take take my call.

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Speaker 6: Where is to you?

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Speaker 11: Doctor?

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Speaker 8: You know, doctor Horn?

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Speaker 7: I am.

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Speaker 8: Doctor Doctor Small was done last month and and uh

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Speaker 8: we this discussion was about as well U great.

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Speaker 7: Brothers joining them?

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Speaker 8: Can hear me?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I can give you a great a great scholar

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Speaker 7: and right.

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Speaker 8: If doctor and he was talking about, you know, the people,

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Speaker 8: the young young men should join the military. And I

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Speaker 8: called in the next day and I got backlash, which

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Speaker 8: is fine. I had no problem with that. See, the

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Speaker 8: people don't know. They don't know. You know, it's really

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Speaker 8: funny when people don't know that the choices.

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Speaker 6: Or or the.

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Speaker 8: The the option is that people choose when they when

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Speaker 8: they do to do that. Okay, they don't know it,

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Speaker 8: just like you know all that I was seeking out

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Speaker 8: because I had already talked to veterans, you know, when

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Speaker 8: I was working this place, and there they were saying

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Speaker 8: it's like the opportunity that you can have after you

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Speaker 8: get out of the military, right, and and I took

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Speaker 8: and I took those off. I took that choice. And

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Speaker 8: you know, you know, yeah, you know, I stood I

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Speaker 8: stood up when you were saying about the orders that

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Speaker 8: that you know that weren't right, you know, I about

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Speaker 8: the systems. I bought the system because it's like you know,

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Speaker 8: in the military, you know, it has to be you know,

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Speaker 8: a lawful order. It's not that you know, some some

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Speaker 8: person tell you to do something and you say, waiting, mane,

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Speaker 8: that's not right. You can challenge that. But there's a

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Speaker 8: chain of command. I had so happy I bucked the

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Speaker 8: chain of the chain of command. I went straight to

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Speaker 8: the top because I know that along the way, along

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Speaker 8: the way, it's not gonna by the time it gets

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Speaker 8: to that person at the top, it's gonna be it's

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Speaker 8: gonna be distorted. So I challenged them.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and and and and you know it.

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Speaker 8: Unfortunately, yeah, I got I didn't get kicked out. But

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Speaker 8: it's okay, you know, because the type of discharge that

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Speaker 8: I got is still allowed me to pursue my education. Okay,

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Speaker 8: you know, and and and and you know but but

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Speaker 8: it was something that was going on on the base

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Speaker 8: because we had a town hall, okay, and when people

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Speaker 8: came from DC and we talked, and it's like, and

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Speaker 8: I was one of these people that spoke up. I

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Speaker 8: know I had a target on my back care because

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Speaker 8: I was doing the right thing. You know, actually understand

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Speaker 8: bro right, And it's like, you know, it's the same

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Speaker 8: thing when you come to the police. Should we join

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Speaker 8: the police force?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Well, look, uh it's it's it is a job. But uh,

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Speaker 7: you the police are a bit different from the regular

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Speaker 7: military in that, you know, the action is right in

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Speaker 7: your face every day.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And the police force in this country was established to

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Speaker 7: control black folk. It was not right established to control everybody,

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Speaker 7: just black folks. The military is a lot broader. But

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Speaker 7: the again, joining a police force is a job and

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Speaker 7: can be a very good job. That's that's some decent

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Speaker 7: black policeman. That's some decent white policeman. It depends on

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Speaker 7: where you are, policeman. It depends on where you decide

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Speaker 7: to join that particular military. But again, what is your

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Speaker 7: aim once you join? Is it just to get paid?

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Speaker 7: Is it just to have one a uniform? Is it

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Speaker 7: to increase your respect in the community. What is your

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Speaker 7: plan for joining either police force or regular military unit.

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Speaker 7: If you want to have a good entree to money

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Speaker 7: and to credit unions and to insurance after your service,

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Speaker 7: joining the military maybe a good idea for you. You

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Speaker 7: want to have a family, you want to you want

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Speaker 7: them to have some benefits if you want to if

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Speaker 7: you want to see the world, join your military may

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Speaker 7: be a good way to do that. You need to

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Speaker 7: have a plan, you know, don't get through it for

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Speaker 7: the hell of it.

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Speaker 8: Well, and I had I had a plan. I had

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Speaker 8: a plan because actually, you know, it was a plan

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Speaker 8: that you know, I was looking out after after I

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Speaker 8: got out. Well, I can go to school, you know,

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Speaker 8: and get it there you go. But it like, and

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Speaker 8: that's what I did, you know. So But but you know,

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Speaker 8: I know sometimes you know, I know some people who

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Speaker 8: you know, I understand that they had feelings about well,

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Speaker 8: you know, we shouldn't go serve and get a place.

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Speaker 8: That's that's you know, got their foot on our neck.

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Speaker 8: But the thing is, it was it was I was

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Speaker 8: doing it for me. I wasn't doing it for nobody else, right, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, thanks Johnny. But doctor Horn is it. Well,

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Speaker 1: look at the police upon for for example, is it

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Speaker 1: Is it because some of the officer are more blue

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Speaker 1: than black of some of the black officers?

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Speaker 4: Is that the case?

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Speaker 7: The thing about police, and I mean you know, we

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Speaker 7: could have uh two or three or ten sessions just

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Speaker 7: on the police, black folk and the police. But the

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Speaker 7: police in the United States was established to help control

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Speaker 7: black folk. I mean they that's even the written history.

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Speaker 7: They were set up to control black folk, to keep

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Speaker 7: us on a plantation of one sort or another. And

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Speaker 7: the way the police have developed all over this country,

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Speaker 7: they have focused on black people as criminals. Black people

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Speaker 7: are going to resist our attempt to control them, so

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Speaker 7: we got to be ready to punish them and put

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Speaker 7: them in prison. Every police force in every jurisdiction in

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Speaker 7: this country does not adhere totally to that. But every

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Speaker 7: police force in this country it's part of that whole

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Speaker 7: history that it was established to control black folks. So

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Speaker 7: you join a police force in a decent place, you

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Speaker 7: can maybe uh not get bowled over by that particular agenda,

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Speaker 7: but you will be touched by that agenda because that's

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Speaker 7: what police do.

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Speaker 1: Got you ate away from the top of Dr Horn

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Speaker 1: andres calling from LA's online to Grand Rising Andre with

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Speaker 1: doctor Horn.

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Speaker 8: Rising called Grand Rising, doctor Horn, I know we're running out,

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Speaker 8: brother doing I'm doing well. It's always good to hear

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Speaker 8: you and call together. You are so profound and you

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Speaker 8: have so much information this year by quick quickly. My

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Speaker 8: first question is, uh, we know that the military uh

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Speaker 8: has has has hesitations about occupying American cities. You know,

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Speaker 8: that's uh against possi comatatis and all the rest. And

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Speaker 8: they were full to do it. That is absolutely right.

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Speaker 8: But Trump doesn't seem to care about any of that, unfortunately,

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Speaker 8: And but and especially after the embarrassment with headstaff or

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Speaker 8: whatever his name is rightly dealing with the military. Now,

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Speaker 8: my question is with all of this glorying ones, since

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Speaker 8: we appear to be acted.

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Speaker 7: Like a third of like a unorganized owns a third

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Speaker 7: world country. But no, no, no, you're right now, No, no,

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Speaker 7: we we are acting like a third world country. The

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Speaker 7: government in this country. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 8: So the question is, doctor Horn quickly one of two questions.

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Speaker 8: Number one is uh, do you think the military at

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Speaker 8: some point that this guy wants to be president for like,

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Speaker 8: actually has to take come out and restore orders because

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Speaker 8: he has the extreme court, he has the Senate, he

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Speaker 8: has the House, and he has this delusional executive order

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Speaker 8: agenda with Project twenty. Do you think that military may

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Speaker 8: be in a position to just take over and re

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Speaker 8: establish some sort of normalcy of democracy? Again, the second

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Speaker 8: question is very quickly, you know, the time is short.

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Speaker 8: Isn't blowing up civilions of people in isn't he subject

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Speaker 8: to international U is not a war crime? International war

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Speaker 8: crime that he should be held accountable?

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Speaker 7: And the World Court.

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Speaker 8: I mean, these are as far as we know, innocent

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Speaker 8: fisherman from Venezuela in the Caribbean and attacking them. There

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Speaker 8: are so many desk by Now, what do you say

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Speaker 8: about those two questions? The US, Yes, sir, that's it.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Let me let me take the second one first,

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Speaker 7: Richard Harder, the United States, there's not fear the World Court,

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Speaker 7: the United Nations, or any international entergy to to bring it,

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Speaker 7: to bring it to court, or to bring it to

2357
02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:58,560
Speaker 7: any kind of punishment. Because the United States believes it

2358
02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:05,400
Speaker 7: has the greatest military in the world right now. They

2359
02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:09,960
Speaker 7: don't think any other international body can tell them what

2360
02:14:10,160 --> 02:14:14,840
Speaker 7: to do. Uh they Again, you we're dealing with a

2361
02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:19,800
Speaker 7: commander in chief who's basically ignorant. He has you know,

2362
02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:24,200
Speaker 7: he has not studied history at all. He barely graduated.

2363
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:27,800
Speaker 7: It's alive when you start talking about he graduated from

2364
02:14:27,880 --> 02:14:32,920
Speaker 7: ward and he did not. Uh. The we we we

2365
02:14:33,400 --> 02:14:39,480
Speaker 7: we have a situation when you think you the baddest

2366
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:45,640
Speaker 7: on the planet and then you don't fear anybody. Nobody

2367
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:49,080
Speaker 7: can tell you, no, nobody can stop you if you've

2368
02:14:49,160 --> 02:14:53,360
Speaker 7: decided to go left or right. That's unfortunate that the

2369
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:56,960
Speaker 7: United States is in that position. There is no other

2370
02:14:57,080 --> 02:15:03,160
Speaker 7: military on earth the United States fears, and there's no

2371
02:15:03,360 --> 02:15:07,080
Speaker 7: international body that they care about. The you know, the

2372
02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:10,960
Speaker 7: United States is not part of the international court. You know,

2373
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:15,760
Speaker 7: so there's no there's no uh a jewelry verdict that

2374
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:18,920
Speaker 7: can come out to punish the United States that we

2375
02:15:18,920 --> 02:15:24,960
Speaker 7: will pay any attention to it. You know, yeah, you know, yeah,

2376
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:28,200
Speaker 7: the United States does not have to adhere to any

2377
02:15:28,280 --> 02:15:33,320
Speaker 7: international body. It does whatever it wants, and that's unfortunate.

2378
02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:37,640
Speaker 4: Uh could that be just a lack of respect though,

2379
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:42,200
Speaker 4: doctor Horne, it's.

2380
02:15:42,080 --> 02:15:45,680
Speaker 7: Both a lack of respect and also at lack of

2381
02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:52,000
Speaker 7: being being part of the international entities that have any

2382
02:15:52,120 --> 02:15:56,160
Speaker 7: kind of cloud the in the United Nations, for example,

2383
02:15:56,600 --> 02:16:01,720
Speaker 7: a body which America the United States helped to set up.

2384
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:05,640
Speaker 7: And you know you got you got you got uh

2385
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:10,840
Speaker 7: uh well over two hundred and uh and and and

2386
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:17,920
Speaker 7: fifty members of that body. The body cannot United Nations

2387
02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:20,160
Speaker 7: cannot tell the United States what to do. They cannot

2388
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:23,960
Speaker 7: punish the United States. It cannot basically take anything from

2389
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:29,040
Speaker 7: the United States. You can, you know, the the American

2390
02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:33,840
Speaker 7: dollar is the sovereign currency of the world. You cannot

2391
02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:37,280
Speaker 7: stop trading with the United States kind of thing. You

2392
02:16:37,320 --> 02:16:40,400
Speaker 7: cannot stop the United States from making money. And whatever

2393
02:16:40,520 --> 02:16:44,760
Speaker 7: you trade, whatever you do on your own right now,

2394
02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:48,840
Speaker 7: you should never have a bully who has no fear

2395
02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:53,520
Speaker 7: of anybody else that.

2396
02:16:54,080 --> 02:16:56,480
Speaker 1: You how you thought right there, I'll let you finish

2397
02:16:56,520 --> 02:16:58,760
Speaker 1: your thought back. Thanks and thanks. You called too many

2398
02:16:58,840 --> 02:17:02,840
Speaker 1: away from the top step aside, so station find themselves

2399
02:17:03,080 --> 02:17:06,119
Speaker 1: down the line. Eight hundred and four five zero seventy

2400
02:17:06,160 --> 02:17:08,200
Speaker 1: eight seventy six week to doctor Horne, will take your

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02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:11,360
Speaker 1: phone calls next and Grand Rising family, Thanks for staying

2402
02:17:11,400 --> 02:17:13,240
Speaker 1: with us on this Tuesday Money with our guest, Doctor

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02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:15,520
Speaker 1: David Horn. Doctor Horne is a pan afters and a

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02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:18,879
Speaker 1: critical thinking scholar. As I mentioned, earlier, he taught critical

2405
02:17:18,920 --> 02:17:21,880
Speaker 1: thinking in college and discussing now a plan, he says,

2406
02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:22,520
Speaker 1: we need a plan?

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02:17:22,640 --> 02:17:23,360
Speaker 4: What are we going to do?

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02:17:23,480 --> 02:17:25,360
Speaker 1: But before I do that, I got a tweet question

2409
02:17:25,440 --> 02:17:28,000
Speaker 1: for you, and I want to finish responding to Andrea's question.

2410
02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:35,320
Speaker 7: The second part of Andrea's question I forgot, but the

2411
02:17:36,640 --> 02:17:41,280
Speaker 7: I'll talk to him off offline if you remember it,

2412
02:17:41,400 --> 02:17:43,519
Speaker 7: I go ahead and answer.

2413
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:45,640
Speaker 1: But I forgot what it was, you know, and I

2414
02:17:45,680 --> 02:17:47,600
Speaker 1: wrote it down and I can't find it in my

2415
02:17:47,720 --> 02:17:50,760
Speaker 1: notes here. But Andre, call back and give me the key.

2416
02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:54,640
Speaker 1: But here's a question for you, though, Dr Horn. Coming

2417
02:17:54,720 --> 02:17:56,640
Speaker 1: up next week or next month, in a few weeks,

2418
02:17:56,720 --> 02:17:59,000
Speaker 1: it's going to have the G twenty meeting in South Africa.

2419
02:18:00,200 --> 02:18:03,640
Speaker 1: President is in charge of that. Donald Trump is refusing

2420
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:05,560
Speaker 1: to go, and he's supposed to go to have this

2421
02:18:05,680 --> 02:18:09,200
Speaker 1: ceremonial handover because the United States is going to be

2422
02:18:09,280 --> 02:18:12,760
Speaker 1: the next country in charge of the G twenty meeting. Uh,

2423
02:18:12,959 --> 02:18:14,920
Speaker 1: how do you think that's going to work out? Is

2424
02:18:14,959 --> 02:18:17,760
Speaker 1: this an insult to the twenty other nations that are

2425
02:18:17,800 --> 02:18:19,040
Speaker 1: involved in this?

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02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:24,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, in the it is. It's an insult to South

2427
02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:27,680
Speaker 7: Africa's the leadership of the of the body. It's the

2428
02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:30,640
Speaker 7: first time an African country had been in charge of

2429
02:18:30,720 --> 02:18:35,000
Speaker 7: the G twenty and but it's typical Trump.

2430
02:18:35,879 --> 02:18:36,320
Speaker 11: You know, he.

2431
02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:42,800
Speaker 7: Basically says that we in charge, we tell y'all what

2432
02:18:42,920 --> 02:18:46,600
Speaker 7: to do. You don't tell us, you know, you all

2433
02:18:46,680 --> 02:18:52,039
Speaker 7: of you coming big me for some kind of recognition.

2434
02:18:52,240 --> 02:18:58,080
Speaker 7: Remember the way that he talked to President Ramaposa some

2435
02:18:58,320 --> 02:19:02,880
Speaker 7: South Africa whom he had invited to the White House.

2436
02:19:04,040 --> 02:19:09,240
Speaker 7: He'd also invited these a group of crazy white folks

2437
02:19:09,360 --> 02:19:17,720
Speaker 7: from South Africa who brought a a tape of some

2438
02:19:17,920 --> 02:19:21,440
Speaker 7: incorrect information. They were making an argument that they were

2439
02:19:21,520 --> 02:19:26,640
Speaker 7: being oppressed in South Africa, that the black majority was

2440
02:19:26,760 --> 02:19:33,560
Speaker 7: oppressing the white minority and taking their land and putting them,

2441
02:19:33,800 --> 02:19:38,039
Speaker 7: putting them in jail, that type of thing. And even

2442
02:19:38,120 --> 02:19:44,080
Speaker 7: though President the President President Ramaposa tried to explain uh

2443
02:19:44,320 --> 02:19:49,400
Speaker 7: to Trump and Hughes cabinet that that information was incorrect.

2444
02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:56,720
Speaker 7: There's no oppression of white folks in South Africa. You know,

2445
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:58,840
Speaker 7: they're not trying to the black folks who are in

2446
02:19:58,920 --> 02:20:02,520
Speaker 7: charge of the government are not trying to seize the

2447
02:20:02,720 --> 02:20:06,760
Speaker 7: property of white people as they could because it's in

2448
02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:11,080
Speaker 7: the constitution. It says that the black government in South

2449
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:14,120
Speaker 7: Africa can seize property from white people, but they have

2450
02:20:14,240 --> 02:20:18,840
Speaker 7: not done it anyway. Rama Posta tried to explain to

2451
02:20:18,879 --> 02:20:21,320
Speaker 7: Trump what you are seeing on the video is not

2452
02:20:21,480 --> 02:20:27,840
Speaker 7: correct information. That's not what's happening. Trump wouldn't listen. He

2453
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:31,359
Speaker 7: wouldn't listen to the point that he has now designated

2454
02:20:33,320 --> 02:20:43,120
Speaker 7: African um entry into this country starting next year to

2455
02:20:43,240 --> 02:20:47,040
Speaker 7: be focused on white South Africans coming to the country

2456
02:20:47,080 --> 02:20:52,240
Speaker 7: and getting almost entertained your citizenship. He had made that

2457
02:20:52,480 --> 02:20:56,960
Speaker 7: order executive order that the white South Africans coming you

2458
02:20:57,000 --> 02:21:03,240
Speaker 7: should be designated refugees from discrimination and they should be

2459
02:21:03,360 --> 02:21:12,360
Speaker 7: given instant citizenship consideration. He's already made that decision foolishness

2460
02:21:12,800 --> 02:21:16,960
Speaker 7: based on incorrect information. You know, but Trump doesn't read

2461
02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:20,800
Speaker 7: a lot, and he does not get correct information even

2462
02:21:20,840 --> 02:21:28,080
Speaker 7: from the people around him in his cabinet. As the

2463
02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:34,320
Speaker 7: next head of the G twenty, and it may not occur.

2464
02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:38,480
Speaker 7: If Trump is pure president, the G twenty can vote

2465
02:21:39,000 --> 02:21:45,200
Speaker 7: to have another UH temporary president after around the Post's

2466
02:21:46,240 --> 02:21:49,080
Speaker 7: term is up. I don't think that. I don't think

2467
02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:53,160
Speaker 7: the G twenty people are going to vote for Trump

2468
02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:56,400
Speaker 7: to come and be the G twenty head even for

2469
02:21:56,480 --> 02:21:58,640
Speaker 7: a short time. I don't think they're going to do that.

2470
02:21:59,320 --> 02:22:00,760
Speaker 7: I think another vote.

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02:22:01,720 --> 02:22:04,200
Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on that as well. Also, some

2472
02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:06,760
Speaker 1: white South advacans since that came out, I said, they're

2473
02:22:06,760 --> 02:22:11,000
Speaker 1: not any distress in their country. They're not suffering, they're

2474
02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:13,480
Speaker 1: not being you know, the black people are not victimizing them.

2475
02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:16,600
Speaker 1: So they've rejected what what Trump and when.

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02:22:18,480 --> 02:22:22,120
Speaker 7: He won't listen to information, he only listens to what

2477
02:22:22,240 --> 02:22:25,800
Speaker 7: he feels, right, is telling him?

2478
02:22:25,959 --> 02:22:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2479
02:22:27,320 --> 02:22:30,840
Speaker 1: Exactly, Here's I got a tweet question for you, doctor Horne,

2480
02:22:30,879 --> 02:22:33,120
Speaker 1: and tweeter says, what what? What are black people's What

2481
02:22:33,280 --> 02:22:35,680
Speaker 1: is the black people plan? How are we going to

2482
02:22:35,760 --> 02:22:39,440
Speaker 1: survive without leadership? They can call and draft. Our sons

2483
02:22:39,480 --> 02:22:42,640
Speaker 1: and daughters are on the front line. Many of the

2484
02:22:42,680 --> 02:22:45,760
Speaker 1: government workers fired with black women. Why are why are

2485
02:22:45,879 --> 02:22:48,360
Speaker 1: we not organizing and trying to save ourselves?

2486
02:22:48,879 --> 02:22:49,000
Speaker 7: Uh?

2487
02:22:49,360 --> 02:22:51,600
Speaker 1: I guess it goes back to our original discussion about

2488
02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:55,600
Speaker 1: the plan. We need a plan and also pointing outbout leadership.

2489
02:22:56,040 --> 02:22:59,840
Speaker 1: Is there a vacuum leadership in the black community right now?

2490
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:04,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, well there's no I wouldn't call it a vacuum leadership.

2491
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:07,840
Speaker 7: There's a different kind of leadership you know, while we

2492
02:23:08,040 --> 02:23:12,000
Speaker 7: may have been we may have gotten used to singular

2493
02:23:12,080 --> 02:23:22,359
Speaker 7: people like a Jesse Jackson and Martin Luther King. You know. Anyway,

2494
02:23:22,920 --> 02:23:26,840
Speaker 7: while we may have gotten used to individual leaders like that,

2495
02:23:28,600 --> 02:23:35,120
Speaker 7: getting getting in the newspaper, doing conferences, you know, and

2496
02:23:35,640 --> 02:23:39,360
Speaker 7: doing the paperwork. We may have gotten used to that

2497
02:23:39,480 --> 02:23:45,000
Speaker 7: in the past. We need to have a rethinking. We

2498
02:23:45,080 --> 02:23:49,119
Speaker 7: need to have a sit down discussions with each other

2499
02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:52,240
Speaker 7: and decide on the leadership that we need for right now,

2500
02:23:52,560 --> 02:23:55,640
Speaker 7: not the leadership we've had, but the new leadership for

2501
02:23:55,840 --> 02:23:59,800
Speaker 7: the twenty first century. In every community where we have

2502
02:24:00,040 --> 02:24:02,800
Speaker 7: of right folks living, they need to take it upon

2503
02:24:02,879 --> 02:24:08,520
Speaker 7: themselves to have planning sessions with each other and lay

2504
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:12,600
Speaker 7: out here's what we need to do to move into

2505
02:24:12,680 --> 02:24:14,720
Speaker 7: the future. Here's what we need to do for our

2506
02:24:14,840 --> 02:24:20,440
Speaker 7: children and for our own survival and our own success.

2507
02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:25,279
Speaker 7: We are the leaders leaders in the past or leaders

2508
02:24:25,320 --> 02:24:28,760
Speaker 7: in the past. We need leadership, twenty first century leadership

2509
02:24:28,840 --> 02:24:31,320
Speaker 7: right now. Every place where we live.

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02:24:31,440 --> 02:24:32,040
Speaker 9: We need to do that.

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02:24:34,360 --> 02:24:38,560
Speaker 1: And these leads, the next cadre of leaders that where

2512
02:24:38,560 --> 02:24:41,120
Speaker 1: are their ranks? Are these the leaders that we had,

2513
02:24:41,560 --> 02:24:44,520
Speaker 1: say in the sixties, seventies, even the nineties, were they

2514
02:24:44,680 --> 02:24:48,920
Speaker 1: cultivating where they're training other youngsters to pass the baton,

2515
02:24:48,920 --> 02:24:51,880
Speaker 1: because many of them, doctor Harnt, frankly, just don't want

2516
02:24:51,920 --> 02:24:54,000
Speaker 1: to give up the position. They're in, the pole position.

2517
02:24:54,080 --> 02:24:55,880
Speaker 1: They've been there for the longest and they don't want to,

2518
02:24:56,240 --> 02:24:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, turn it over to the young people. Younger people,

2519
02:24:58,720 --> 02:24:59,440
Speaker 1: how do you see that.

2520
02:25:00,400 --> 02:25:06,560
Speaker 7: Well, old leadership or elder leadership is still valuable. It

2521
02:25:06,680 --> 02:25:14,960
Speaker 7: can still provide advice and experience. But the elder leadership

2522
02:25:15,720 --> 02:25:19,119
Speaker 7: was good for what we were going through up through

2523
02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:27,600
Speaker 7: the nineteen nineties. For the twenty first century, African Americans

2524
02:25:27,640 --> 02:25:32,240
Speaker 7: are going through different problems. Maybe they are extensions of

2525
02:25:32,640 --> 02:25:34,879
Speaker 7: the old problems, but they are different. They look different,

2526
02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:41,160
Speaker 7: they act different. We need younger folk who are much

2527
02:25:41,280 --> 02:25:45,800
Speaker 7: more adapted, ai who were much more adapted the new

2528
02:25:45,920 --> 02:25:50,480
Speaker 7: social vocabulary. We need them to step forward because they

2529
02:25:50,520 --> 02:25:55,119
Speaker 7: can articulate what it is that's wrong and what we need,

2530
02:25:55,440 --> 02:26:00,680
Speaker 7: what we have to have to move forward. Are great

2531
02:26:00,959 --> 02:26:04,480
Speaker 7: for advice and for wisdom, and this is what worked before,

2532
02:26:05,920 --> 02:26:09,880
Speaker 7: but we need new leadership for this particular time.

2533
02:26:12,040 --> 02:26:14,640
Speaker 1: Gotcha in that minutes at the top there, Doctor Horne,

2534
02:26:14,959 --> 02:26:18,440
Speaker 1: Carl's calling us from northern Virginia is online. One Grand Rising,

2535
02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:19,920
Speaker 1: Carl your question.

2536
02:26:19,879 --> 02:26:24,040
Speaker 7: For doctor Horn Grand Rising, and thank you so much

2537
02:26:24,040 --> 02:26:24,720
Speaker 7: for my call.

2538
02:26:24,800 --> 02:26:25,280
Speaker 8: Can you hear me?

2539
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:27,440
Speaker 7: Yeah? Hey brother, how you doing?

2540
02:26:28,760 --> 02:26:32,360
Speaker 12: I'm well, but thank you and listen. I'm behind anyway line,

2541
02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:33,840
Speaker 12: so I got to speak fast.

2542
02:26:33,600 --> 02:26:35,280
Speaker 7: And suffer and cold. But listen.

2543
02:26:35,600 --> 02:26:37,320
Speaker 8: Are you familiar with the.

2544
02:26:37,400 --> 02:26:41,920
Speaker 12: Black Leadership Family Plan for Unity, Survival and Progress of

2545
02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:46,400
Speaker 12: the Black People that was articulated and put into a

2546
02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:48,360
Speaker 12: document in nineteen eighty two.

2547
02:26:51,320 --> 02:26:53,279
Speaker 7: It was articulated by who.

2548
02:26:54,959 --> 02:26:58,840
Speaker 12: The Congressional Black Autics and other Black leaders that come

2549
02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:02,119
Speaker 12: together and they formulated a plant. They called it the Plan,

2550
02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:04,720
Speaker 12: and it was a twelve step plan that dealt with

2551
02:27:05,720 --> 02:27:12,879
Speaker 12: the twelve different areas of people activity that specific as

2552
02:27:12,920 --> 02:27:15,440
Speaker 12: far as what the Black church would do, what Black

2553
02:27:15,640 --> 02:27:16,720
Speaker 12: organizations could.

2554
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:19,600
Speaker 7: Do, what our media should do.

2555
02:27:20,120 --> 02:27:23,360
Speaker 12: We talked about black politicians, It talked about it's folks

2556
02:27:23,400 --> 02:27:26,320
Speaker 12: specifically about what these people, all these different groups can

2557
02:27:26,360 --> 02:27:29,760
Speaker 12: do then even vote down our people activity that we

2558
02:27:29,879 --> 02:27:32,560
Speaker 12: could do each month. That's why it was in twelve

2559
02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:35,760
Speaker 12: It was in twelve sections and they had twelve months

2560
02:27:35,800 --> 02:27:38,840
Speaker 12: of different activity and they had different focuses like for

2561
02:27:39,360 --> 02:27:41,400
Speaker 12: for example, the month of November. We know it's a

2562
02:27:41,440 --> 02:27:44,360
Speaker 12: political month, so that was the month where people that's

2563
02:27:44,400 --> 02:27:47,240
Speaker 12: where the you know people would do their political action,

2564
02:27:47,600 --> 02:27:51,240
Speaker 12: but also where we would formulate a agenda to give

2565
02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:55,680
Speaker 12: to the candidate. So that we don't stay there ask

2566
02:27:55,959 --> 02:27:58,440
Speaker 12: what is the Democratic Party going to do for us?

2567
02:27:58,920 --> 02:28:02,680
Speaker 12: We tell them what we want, We give them our agenda.

2568
02:28:02,840 --> 02:28:05,760
Speaker 12: We don't let them to infect an agenda for us.

2569
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:10,000
Speaker 12: And this wind was agreed to fund by it and

2570
02:28:10,120 --> 02:28:12,960
Speaker 12: like I said, the progression of black cout which they

2571
02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:15,720
Speaker 12: don't ever talk about this anymore, this was agreed to

2572
02:28:15,760 --> 02:28:18,320
Speaker 12: fund by the so called leagacy organizations. They don't talk

2573
02:28:18,320 --> 02:28:20,600
Speaker 12: about it anymore. Even though they said they were gonna

2574
02:28:20,600 --> 02:28:22,840
Speaker 12: follow it. This is not even it's not even to

2575
02:28:22,959 --> 02:28:25,160
Speaker 12: this day on the radio when you get all these

2576
02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:27,840
Speaker 12: people who are going at each other about their earning

2577
02:28:27,920 --> 02:28:30,039
Speaker 12: that and they said, we need a plan. We had

2578
02:28:30,120 --> 02:28:34,720
Speaker 12: a plane, okay, and our so called leadership has failed

2579
02:28:34,879 --> 02:28:38,360
Speaker 12: us in following the very plane they were supposed to

2580
02:28:38,440 --> 02:28:41,240
Speaker 12: put it they put out, but they just seemed to

2581
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:43,600
Speaker 12: put it out and then they got put out.

2582
02:28:47,320 --> 02:28:49,920
Speaker 7: I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, I am aware

2583
02:28:49,959 --> 02:28:54,800
Speaker 7: of that plan. The what we need, what we need

2584
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:59,960
Speaker 7: to do is to reintroduce this new generation to that plane.

2585
02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:08,080
Speaker 7: Uh it. It has not been widely disseminated, and the

2586
02:29:08,280 --> 02:29:14,240
Speaker 7: major issue with it is that it is a plan

2587
02:29:14,400 --> 02:29:19,560
Speaker 7: that focuses on participation in the electoral process, and which

2588
02:29:19,640 --> 02:29:21,760
Speaker 7: is great. I mean, we need to do that, but

2589
02:29:22,040 --> 02:29:25,080
Speaker 7: that's not all we you know. For example, let me

2590
02:29:25,480 --> 02:29:28,200
Speaker 7: let me give you a quick, a very quick example.

2591
02:29:29,400 --> 02:29:35,520
Speaker 7: In the whole our discussion about reparations, we have not

2592
02:29:36,200 --> 02:29:41,039
Speaker 7: focused on what doctor King taught us, taught us about

2593
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:44,920
Speaker 7: back in nineteen fifty five and fifty six. When that

2594
02:29:45,080 --> 02:29:49,520
Speaker 7: is an economic entity that refuses to respect you, that

2595
02:29:49,760 --> 02:29:58,080
Speaker 7: refuses to acknowledge you are bringing money to them, boycott.

2596
02:29:59,520 --> 02:30:02,400
Speaker 7: If black folk in this country, or even in the

2597
02:30:02,440 --> 02:30:05,200
Speaker 7: city by city or state by state, if black folk

2598
02:30:05,240 --> 02:30:11,160
Speaker 7: in this country decided this Christmas or this New Year's

2599
02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:15,160
Speaker 7: or any other next year, if you want to do that,

2600
02:30:15,680 --> 02:30:18,400
Speaker 7: but if we decided we're not going to spend one penny,

2601
02:30:18,920 --> 02:30:21,280
Speaker 7: We're not going to go and buy a damn thing

2602
02:30:23,280 --> 02:30:28,120
Speaker 7: during that particular holiday season, we would be able to

2603
02:30:28,320 --> 02:30:33,560
Speaker 7: dictate whatever result we wanted. Black folk just kept their

2604
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:38,520
Speaker 7: money to themselves, do not spend at any of these

2605
02:30:38,800 --> 02:30:44,119
Speaker 7: costcos and any other things. Economic boycotts worked when they

2606
02:30:44,200 --> 02:30:48,720
Speaker 7: are organized. Well, they worked in Alabama and they will

2607
02:30:48,760 --> 02:30:52,680
Speaker 7: still work in pasion this country. Now, that was not

2608
02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:55,800
Speaker 7: part of the Congression of Black Caucacer's plan. That needs

2609
02:30:55,840 --> 02:30:59,039
Speaker 7: to be added. But yeah, I am aware of the land.

2610
02:31:00,200 --> 02:31:03,000
Speaker 7: I am aware, and we need to look at it.

2611
02:31:04,320 --> 02:31:07,959
Speaker 12: Okay, let me just add this now. They had they

2612
02:31:08,000 --> 02:31:11,400
Speaker 12: had planned to boycott Christmas back in nineteen sixty three

2613
02:31:11,920 --> 02:31:15,400
Speaker 12: after the March on Washington. Okay, but there was a

2614
02:31:15,480 --> 02:31:18,600
Speaker 12: group that was doing together called the Council for United

2615
02:31:18,680 --> 02:31:21,920
Speaker 12: Civil Rights Leadership that put their all those so called

2616
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:26,920
Speaker 12: legacy organizations together. But they were funded by a non

2617
02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:29,119
Speaker 12: mimer of this person named Stephen.

2618
02:31:28,800 --> 02:31:32,680
Speaker 7: Curryer, and he gave U gold out the money to.

2619
02:31:32,720 --> 02:31:35,400
Speaker 12: The organizations and told them what they could talk about

2620
02:31:35,400 --> 02:31:37,400
Speaker 12: it what they couldn't talk about at the march. But

2621
02:31:37,560 --> 02:31:41,040
Speaker 12: he also talked them out of boycott and Christmas in

2622
02:31:41,160 --> 02:31:44,080
Speaker 12: nineteen sixty three. That ain't nothing new, Okay, they were

2623
02:31:44,080 --> 02:31:45,760
Speaker 12: talking a lot of that the city.

2624
02:31:46,160 --> 02:31:46,440
Speaker 7: Okay.

2625
02:31:46,800 --> 02:31:50,400
Speaker 12: But again, our leadership, just like with targets, Remember how

2626
02:31:50,480 --> 02:31:52,880
Speaker 12: Target brought into Black Church and then they gave you

2627
02:31:53,080 --> 02:31:57,199
Speaker 12: three hundred thousand dollars, Okay, them off. It's the same

2628
02:31:57,360 --> 02:32:01,199
Speaker 12: thing that happens to Its happening over and over and over,

2629
02:32:01,640 --> 02:32:04,080
Speaker 12: and we don't see it, and we keep falling for

2630
02:32:04,160 --> 02:32:05,040
Speaker 12: the same thing.

2631
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:05,720
Speaker 7: Okay.

2632
02:32:06,080 --> 02:32:08,520
Speaker 12: So I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna take the challenge

2633
02:32:08,600 --> 02:32:12,400
Speaker 12: of taking the plane and updating it, and then we're

2634
02:32:12,400 --> 02:32:15,000
Speaker 12: gonna out for public carecimin nation.

2635
02:32:15,280 --> 02:32:15,840
Speaker 7: What we're gonna do.

2636
02:32:15,920 --> 02:32:17,440
Speaker 12: We don't care to underground railroad.

2637
02:32:18,240 --> 02:32:21,280
Speaker 7: Okay, right, Hey, hey, brother, as I put it, I

2638
02:32:21,400 --> 02:32:25,320
Speaker 7: put it, support it, and I hope you can include

2639
02:32:25,640 --> 02:32:27,800
Speaker 7: some people from the West coast in the brand.

2640
02:32:29,680 --> 02:32:30,360
Speaker 12: All rightsolutely.

2641
02:32:31,120 --> 02:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Thanks call step aside for a few moments. Family, Hey,

2642
02:32:33,959 --> 02:32:37,280
Speaker 1: thanks call for calling us from Virginia, doctor Horne. I

2643
02:32:37,440 --> 02:32:39,720
Speaker 1: got a tweet question for you as well. Eight hundred

2644
02:32:39,760 --> 02:32:41,960
Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight to seventy six, so you

2645
02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:44,680
Speaker 1: can speak to our guest, doctor David Horn. As I mentioned,

2646
02:32:44,720 --> 02:32:47,600
Speaker 1: he's a Pan Africanist, he's a critical thinking scholar. And

2647
02:32:47,720 --> 02:32:49,480
Speaker 1: again you can reach them at eight hundred four or

2648
02:32:49,520 --> 02:32:52,039
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your

2649
02:32:52,040 --> 02:32:55,360
Speaker 1: phone calls. Next and Grand Rising family fast staying with

2650
02:32:55,480 --> 02:32:58,200
Speaker 1: us on this Tuesday morning with our guest, doctor David Horn.

2651
02:32:58,280 --> 02:33:00,200
Speaker 1: Doctor Horne is a Pan Africanist, I keep saying that,

2652
02:33:00,240 --> 02:33:03,560
Speaker 1: and the critical thinking, a scholar. He taught critical thinking

2653
02:33:03,760 --> 02:33:06,520
Speaker 1: and college and that's what we try to, you know,

2654
02:33:06,600 --> 02:33:08,960
Speaker 1: ask our folks to do. Just think for themselves, you know,

2655
02:33:09,080 --> 02:33:10,840
Speaker 1: free your mind. That's what it is when we say that.

2656
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:14,120
Speaker 1: And doctor Horns, you've been here and teaching us how

2657
02:33:14,160 --> 02:33:17,680
Speaker 1: to do that, Doctor Horn. And tomorrow Carl in Northern

2658
02:33:17,760 --> 02:33:20,480
Speaker 1: Virginia mentioned a solution about the boycotts and stuff like that,

2659
02:33:20,840 --> 02:33:23,840
Speaker 1: a selected buying as we like to say, Uh, well, tomorrow,

2660
02:33:23,879 --> 02:33:26,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a guest who's gonna tell us. You know,

2661
02:33:26,120 --> 02:33:28,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna say, if we have to shop during the holiday,

2662
02:33:28,720 --> 02:33:31,160
Speaker 1: shop black by black. So you're gonna hear that conversation.

2663
02:33:31,240 --> 02:33:33,840
Speaker 1: So if you guys in like that kind of discussion,

2664
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:36,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna be here tomorrow morning and we're gonna talk

2665
02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:38,240
Speaker 1: about that. But Dr Horman got some more folks who

2666
02:33:38,240 --> 02:33:39,760
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you. Money Mike is calling from

2667
02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:43,040
Speaker 1: Baltimore's online two Grand Rising. Money Mike, You're on with

2668
02:33:43,160 --> 02:33:44,279
Speaker 1: doctor David Horn.

2669
02:33:48,360 --> 02:33:49,320
Speaker 8: The morning, Doctor Horn.

2670
02:33:50,160 --> 02:33:51,240
Speaker 7: Hey brother, how are you doing?

2671
02:33:52,520 --> 02:33:54,840
Speaker 8: I'm doing great, Doctor Horn. Let me ask you a question.

2672
02:33:55,360 --> 02:33:59,840
Speaker 8: Why does the US government, when they are just grown

2673
02:34:00,160 --> 02:34:03,800
Speaker 8: with another country, why do they impose economic extensions on it?

2674
02:34:06,280 --> 02:34:14,359
Speaker 7: Because they can. Because when you think you are all powerful,

2675
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:21,520
Speaker 7: you are the great and powerful ours. You can do

2676
02:34:21,640 --> 02:34:25,879
Speaker 7: whatever you want to other entities until somebody has kicked

2677
02:34:25,879 --> 02:34:29,720
Speaker 7: your behind, I trip you down, I push you over

2678
02:34:29,840 --> 02:34:33,800
Speaker 7: the cliff, and you know you can be hurt until

2679
02:34:33,959 --> 02:34:36,240
Speaker 7: they have put you back in your place. You think

2680
02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:41,520
Speaker 7: you can run run the game with everybody. United States

2681
02:34:42,280 --> 02:34:47,440
Speaker 7: does not think that it's any entity bigger or more

2682
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:52,760
Speaker 7: powerful than it is. Therefore, when you have a leader

2683
02:34:53,520 --> 02:34:57,240
Speaker 7: like the one who's in charge now, who is only

2684
02:34:57,480 --> 02:35:02,160
Speaker 7: used to pushing his way through logically feeling out a

2685
02:35:02,240 --> 02:35:05,720
Speaker 7: way to do it. When you have that kind of leadership,

2686
02:35:06,280 --> 02:35:09,880
Speaker 7: that's what you're going to get. I told you what

2687
02:35:10,040 --> 02:35:14,600
Speaker 7: to do, and so you do it. No, no, no,

2688
02:35:14,720 --> 02:35:15,160
Speaker 7: that's okay.

2689
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:17,760
Speaker 6: Why do we do it first?

2690
02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:20,560
Speaker 8: If we're the biggest and most powerful bully on the earth,

2691
02:35:20,600 --> 02:35:22,600
Speaker 8: why don't we just go and smack them upside the

2692
02:35:22,680 --> 02:35:23,280
Speaker 8: head first?

2693
02:35:26,520 --> 02:35:29,560
Speaker 7: They are that's what they're doing your venezuela right now,

2694
02:35:31,040 --> 02:35:31,680
Speaker 7: that's what they're.

2695
02:35:31,600 --> 02:35:32,480
Speaker 8: Doing to Uh.

2696
02:35:34,200 --> 02:35:39,800
Speaker 7: But no, no, and they're doing that against the United

2697
02:35:39,840 --> 02:35:42,760
Speaker 7: States law. They're doing it against the law that they

2698
02:35:42,879 --> 02:35:48,320
Speaker 7: themselves have imposed. It's pretty bad when you know, I

2699
02:35:48,480 --> 02:35:53,280
Speaker 7: tell my children what to do and what not to

2700
02:35:53,400 --> 02:35:57,000
Speaker 7: do because I'm in charge, and then they see me

2701
02:35:57,160 --> 02:36:00,320
Speaker 7: doing it, they see me doing what I tell them

2702
02:36:00,400 --> 02:36:04,920
Speaker 7: not to do. That's not good leadership. That's not good parentage.

2703
02:36:05,600 --> 02:36:09,480
Speaker 7: That's the kind of leadership this country is imposing on

2704
02:36:09,600 --> 02:36:13,480
Speaker 7: the rest of the world. The United States does not

2705
02:36:13,600 --> 02:36:19,240
Speaker 7: think any other country, any group of countries, can stand

2706
02:36:19,360 --> 02:36:24,640
Speaker 7: up against us. You know how that feels? Right? My

2707
02:36:24,720 --> 02:36:26,200
Speaker 7: last Quesson, My.

2708
02:36:26,280 --> 02:36:30,120
Speaker 8: Last question is that when did you realize that the

2709
02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:34,160
Speaker 8: might that the black community has. I'm talking about financial wealth.

2710
02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:37,440
Speaker 8: When did you realize that we had it? And what

2711
02:36:37,520 --> 02:36:39,760
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say is that when I was seventeen, that

2712
02:36:39,959 --> 02:36:44,280
Speaker 8: was over forty three years ago, I realized that every

2713
02:36:44,360 --> 02:36:47,920
Speaker 8: other country we always imposed economic sanctions. And I never

2714
02:36:48,040 --> 02:36:52,080
Speaker 8: heard any of our political leaders since Martin Luther King

2715
02:36:52,320 --> 02:36:56,800
Speaker 8: talk about Boycotten And I'm advocating Boycotton lotteries right here

2716
02:36:57,240 --> 02:37:00,440
Speaker 8: in Maryland, in Northern Virginia to set the trend. If

2717
02:37:00,480 --> 02:37:03,520
Speaker 8: we understand that's how the lottery was used and what

2718
02:37:03,640 --> 02:37:06,840
Speaker 8: it's used for now. If we can't get cohesion about

2719
02:37:06,920 --> 02:37:10,720
Speaker 8: boycotting stores, at least we can boycott the lotteries. That

2720
02:37:10,840 --> 02:37:14,800
Speaker 8: way in property taxes go up. Counties don't get the revenue,

2721
02:37:15,080 --> 02:37:18,440
Speaker 8: schools don't get the funding, streets don't get clean, lights

2722
02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:22,520
Speaker 8: don't get put up, streets don't get paid. We gotta

2723
02:37:22,640 --> 02:37:25,120
Speaker 8: hurt them with the only real power we have. The

2724
02:37:25,240 --> 02:37:29,480
Speaker 8: boat no longer works for us because we're only three

2725
02:37:29,600 --> 02:37:32,760
Speaker 8: hundred thousand, I think, I mean, I mean three million,

2726
02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:35,920
Speaker 8: thirty million, I'm sorry, thirty million. That's a that's a

2727
02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:38,199
Speaker 8: that's a drop of water into the bucket.

2728
02:37:38,760 --> 02:37:41,680
Speaker 7: So we don't have power you talking about you're talking

2729
02:37:41,680 --> 02:37:43,720
Speaker 7: about in Maryland, and you're talking about in the country,

2730
02:37:44,959 --> 02:37:47,560
Speaker 7: in the country. Boy, oh no, oh, no, no, no,

2731
02:37:47,680 --> 02:37:49,680
Speaker 7: we're a lot bigger than that. Were not big enough,

2732
02:37:50,200 --> 02:37:53,680
Speaker 7: but we're a lot bigger than that. Right, But in

2733
02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:56,520
Speaker 7: the scheme of all things, we're a drop in the bucket.

2734
02:37:57,840 --> 02:38:01,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, well you're right about that. No, no, no, I'm

2735
02:38:01,360 --> 02:38:04,400
Speaker 8: gonna be honest, right, I'm right. I don't mean to

2736
02:38:04,440 --> 02:38:08,199
Speaker 8: get it none enough, none other people. I'm I'm explaining

2737
02:38:08,320 --> 02:38:11,640
Speaker 8: to the audience this thing about voting I'm advocating for it,

2738
02:38:11,800 --> 02:38:15,080
Speaker 8: but you really don't have any power. The power you

2739
02:38:15,240 --> 02:38:18,520
Speaker 8: have is in the purse. Your power is economic power.

2740
02:38:18,640 --> 02:38:20,680
Speaker 8: If you don't believe it, I'm saying, dot go on.

2741
02:38:20,840 --> 02:38:22,840
Speaker 8: I know you know it, but I'm trying to get

2742
02:38:22,879 --> 02:38:24,840
Speaker 8: this point across, and I've been trying to get across

2743
02:38:24,879 --> 02:38:27,760
Speaker 8: for the last thirty years. If you don't get money

2744
02:38:27,879 --> 02:38:31,080
Speaker 8: and understand the power of money, that's why this country

2745
02:38:31,120 --> 02:38:36,040
Speaker 8: imposes economic sanctions. It cripples these other countries economically. We

2746
02:38:36,200 --> 02:38:39,160
Speaker 8: can try cypple this country and bring them to their

2747
02:38:39,320 --> 02:38:42,800
Speaker 8: needs if we understand it. Thank you doctor for so much.

2748
02:38:42,920 --> 02:38:48,760
Speaker 7: Manham None, No, but you and you have a very

2749
02:38:49,440 --> 02:38:54,520
Speaker 7: valid point, and I wish you success in organizing people

2750
02:38:54,600 --> 02:38:59,039
Speaker 7: to do something about it. You are correct that economic

2751
02:38:59,200 --> 02:39:02,640
Speaker 7: power is exactly what we do possess, we just have

2752
02:39:02,760 --> 02:39:03,320
Speaker 7: not used it.

2753
02:39:05,040 --> 02:39:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just say this, the question about how

2754
02:39:07,520 --> 02:39:10,760
Speaker 1: many black folks in the country. As twenty twenty three,

2755
02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:14,480
Speaker 1: they estimated the forty eight point three million people self

2756
02:39:14,560 --> 02:39:17,840
Speaker 1: identified as black, So we make up fourteen point four

2757
02:39:18,120 --> 02:39:20,800
Speaker 1: percent of the country's population. And this is an increase

2758
02:39:20,840 --> 02:39:23,560
Speaker 1: as well, a thirty three percent increase since two thousand

2759
02:39:24,200 --> 02:39:26,560
Speaker 1: and those are the people identify because you know, they've

2760
02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:28,480
Speaker 1: got some folks who don't identify as black.

2761
02:39:29,920 --> 02:39:36,199
Speaker 11: A bunch of selfterfuse black folk right right, don't understand

2762
02:39:36,240 --> 02:39:37,720
Speaker 11: they don't understand that they're right.

2763
02:39:38,400 --> 02:39:40,480
Speaker 1: One. Yeah, if you got one drop of black boot,

2764
02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:42,440
Speaker 1: you're black. But I got a tweet question for you.

2765
02:39:42,760 --> 02:39:45,200
Speaker 1: And this is interesting tweet by the way, doctor Hornet

2766
02:39:45,240 --> 02:39:48,439
Speaker 1: Tweeter says, what is the prospect of the US military

2767
02:39:48,560 --> 02:39:52,160
Speaker 1: stepping in on a rogue administration taking over the government

2768
02:39:52,320 --> 02:39:56,360
Speaker 1: until order and democracy is restored? A military coupdy tar

2769
02:39:56,520 --> 02:39:59,039
Speaker 1: may be necessary to ultimately get Trump out of office.

2770
02:39:59,040 --> 02:40:01,280
Speaker 1: And the person says, the true just clear that we

2771
02:40:01,360 --> 02:40:03,800
Speaker 1: won't have to vote again. He said because Trump said

2772
02:40:03,800 --> 02:40:05,600
Speaker 1: that himself. So he was saying that this may be

2773
02:40:06,000 --> 02:40:08,160
Speaker 1: the last election we had. Was the last election. And

2774
02:40:08,200 --> 02:40:10,440
Speaker 1: it also points out the fact that the East Wing

2775
02:40:10,600 --> 02:40:14,040
Speaker 1: is now. You don't fabricate, make a building, or to

2776
02:40:14,120 --> 02:40:17,000
Speaker 1: do something those kind of uh moves unless you plan

2777
02:40:17,120 --> 02:40:19,000
Speaker 1: to stay for quite some time. If you've got to

2778
02:40:19,040 --> 02:40:21,040
Speaker 1: give it up in two years ago, we build it.

2779
02:40:21,320 --> 02:40:24,880
Speaker 1: So all of those questions, he's talking about something that

2780
02:40:24,959 --> 02:40:26,880
Speaker 1: we never had in this country. I don't think. But

2781
02:40:27,000 --> 02:40:29,240
Speaker 1: maybe correct me if I'm wrong, Doctor you.

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Speaker 7: You occurred your career. Have never been a coop guitar

2783
02:40:33,640 --> 02:40:36,400
Speaker 7: in the country. They have been attempted to attempt at

2784
02:40:36,440 --> 02:40:39,560
Speaker 7: cool guitar, but no, we've never had one, and uh

2785
02:40:39,680 --> 02:40:41,680
Speaker 7: they're not about they're not about to have one. Now.

2786
02:40:41,840 --> 02:40:48,840
Speaker 7: The US military in this country has been uh totally

2787
02:40:49,800 --> 02:40:56,000
Speaker 7: uh schooled on obey the command structure.

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02:40:57,320 --> 02:40:57,480
Speaker 11: Uh.

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02:40:57,600 --> 02:41:04,720
Speaker 7: If if there is some activity that gets started, you know,

2790
02:41:04,840 --> 02:41:08,520
Speaker 7: there are some military activity to get started. Some people

2791
02:41:08,840 --> 02:41:12,720
Speaker 7: try to take over the city, a county, state. The

2792
02:41:12,920 --> 02:41:16,480
Speaker 7: military may come in to do that to put that down.

2793
02:41:16,600 --> 02:41:20,360
Speaker 7: But they're not going to put the government down. That's

2794
02:41:20,360 --> 02:41:22,640
Speaker 7: not going to happen in this country. That's not the

2795
02:41:22,720 --> 02:41:25,680
Speaker 7: military had basically does not even have that in his

2796
02:41:25,879 --> 02:41:28,920
Speaker 7: DNA in this country. None of the folk have been

2797
02:41:28,959 --> 02:41:30,600
Speaker 7: trained to do that. They're not going to do it.

2798
02:41:31,480 --> 02:41:36,440
Speaker 7: The trumpet would have to be removed another way, and.

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02:41:37,959 --> 02:41:38,600
Speaker 5: The way.

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02:41:40,640 --> 02:41:49,000
Speaker 7: That is logically capable of doing that, it's called kill

2801
02:41:49,000 --> 02:41:53,360
Speaker 7: you behinds to the to the vote to the voting center.

2802
02:41:53,600 --> 02:41:59,760
Speaker 7: In twenty twenty six, put in a majority of Senators

2803
02:42:00,680 --> 02:42:05,480
Speaker 7: and House of Representative members and impeach his ass out

2804
02:42:05,520 --> 02:42:09,879
Speaker 7: of out of power. You got to have two thirds

2805
02:42:09,959 --> 02:42:13,199
Speaker 7: of the Senate, and you've got to have a majority

2806
02:42:13,400 --> 02:42:16,720
Speaker 7: in the House, and he can be impeached out of

2807
02:42:16,920 --> 02:42:21,000
Speaker 7: the White House. But he controls all those numbers.

2808
02:42:21,640 --> 02:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but as you said, but he can, as you mentioned,

2809
02:42:24,040 --> 02:42:26,680
Speaker 1: it controls all the branches of the government of control.

2810
02:42:27,040 --> 02:42:29,800
Speaker 1: But do you think this, this rebellion that we're seeing

2811
02:42:29,840 --> 02:42:32,880
Speaker 1: the civil war now, uh, brought on the part of

2812
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:34,440
Speaker 1: partly by the Epstein files.

2813
02:42:34,480 --> 02:42:36,440
Speaker 4: That do you think that's this is the the end

2814
02:42:36,520 --> 02:42:38,200
Speaker 4: of the Maga movement as we know it.

2815
02:42:40,160 --> 02:42:42,560
Speaker 7: It is the beginning of the end of the Mega movement,

2816
02:42:42,720 --> 02:42:46,359
Speaker 7: because part of the Mega movement is believe in QAnon,

2817
02:42:46,720 --> 02:42:50,320
Speaker 7: this whole kind of you know, non non logical uh

2818
02:42:51,000 --> 02:42:55,840
Speaker 7: uh extraterrestrial kind of thing. You know. They that they

2819
02:42:55,879 --> 02:43:00,320
Speaker 7: were accusing Hillary Clinton having some crazy non sense in

2820
02:43:00,400 --> 02:43:04,160
Speaker 7: the basement of a of a store, and and and

2821
02:43:04,440 --> 02:43:10,600
Speaker 7: uh the whole idea about uh extraterrestrial beings and stuff. Anyway,

2822
02:43:11,160 --> 02:43:16,360
Speaker 7: the QAnon belief, this belief in the whole fantasy about

2823
02:43:16,840 --> 02:43:23,640
Speaker 7: about life is fundamental to AMaGA. Epstein. The Epsteam files

2824
02:43:24,600 --> 02:43:26,400
Speaker 7: are part of that q and noon belief.

2825
02:43:27,720 --> 02:43:27,879
Speaker 5: Uh.

2826
02:43:28,560 --> 02:43:33,800
Speaker 7: This Epstein file is gonna end up being Trump's uh

2827
02:43:36,440 --> 02:43:42,000
Speaker 7: death blow, you know, yah in over the head of

2828
02:43:42,280 --> 02:43:47,200
Speaker 7: every government's supposed it's supposed to be the short of Dominocles.

2829
02:43:47,720 --> 02:43:52,280
Speaker 7: The whole idea that as you are in charge, there's

2830
02:43:52,440 --> 02:43:58,360
Speaker 7: always the threat of somebody offering your head, the the

2831
02:43:58,560 --> 02:44:03,320
Speaker 7: public turning against you, major disaster that you cannot handle.

2832
02:44:03,920 --> 02:44:08,200
Speaker 7: That always a florad of domoicles over your head. Uh,

2833
02:44:08,400 --> 02:44:12,920
Speaker 7: the air stream files. That is Trump sort of dominoicles.

2834
02:44:13,400 --> 02:44:16,720
Speaker 7: It is going to reduce him to totally an effect

2835
02:44:16,720 --> 02:44:19,840
Speaker 7: you're president. It will not take him out of being president,

2836
02:44:20,240 --> 02:44:25,920
Speaker 7: but it would make his administration totally useless and helpless.

2837
02:44:27,000 --> 02:44:27,520
Speaker 4: Lame duck.

2838
02:44:27,720 --> 02:44:29,640
Speaker 7: Uh, lame duck.

2839
02:44:30,440 --> 02:44:32,640
Speaker 4: Yes, but what about the economy too.

2840
02:44:33,640 --> 02:44:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm just pressing this a little bit, Dr Horn because

2841
02:44:36,280 --> 02:44:38,640
Speaker 1: it kind of is in the toilet, but because the

2842
02:44:38,680 --> 02:44:41,080
Speaker 1: government was shut down, it's not.

2843
02:44:41,160 --> 02:44:43,439
Speaker 7: In the toilet yet, but it's damn sure close.

2844
02:44:43,920 --> 02:44:46,680
Speaker 1: Right, But we're not getting reports and people are feeling

2845
02:44:47,240 --> 02:44:48,800
Speaker 1: he took off some of the tariffs because you know,

2846
02:44:48,879 --> 02:44:52,560
Speaker 1: folks are going shopping for a Thanksgiving and the prices

2847
02:44:52,600 --> 02:44:55,959
Speaker 1: will be increased across by the tariffs. So he wrote,

2848
02:44:56,080 --> 02:44:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, he walked back some of those stuff. So

2849
02:44:59,320 --> 02:45:01,440
Speaker 1: do you think that be more? That'll be more?

2850
02:45:01,760 --> 02:45:02,000
Speaker 7: You know what?

2851
02:45:02,360 --> 02:45:05,080
Speaker 1: That will the American people wake up over that issue

2852
02:45:05,080 --> 02:45:06,760
Speaker 1: when they find out of the stuff that they want

2853
02:45:06,800 --> 02:45:09,680
Speaker 1: to cause so much more. And then he's got beating

2854
02:45:09,760 --> 02:45:11,840
Speaker 1: with China. A lot of the stuff we've got, especially

2855
02:45:11,920 --> 02:45:14,280
Speaker 1: for those folks who celebrate Christmas, comes from China, and

2856
02:45:14,280 --> 02:45:15,320
Speaker 1: they gotta pay more for you.

2857
02:45:16,760 --> 02:45:21,360
Speaker 7: Look, Trump can lie all he wants about the economy

2858
02:45:21,520 --> 02:45:26,040
Speaker 7: doing well, and people are doing great under his administration.

2859
02:45:26,840 --> 02:45:29,280
Speaker 7: You can't a lot of people when they can't buy food.

2860
02:45:29,840 --> 02:45:32,400
Speaker 7: You can't a lot of people when you're taking snap

2861
02:45:32,480 --> 02:45:35,280
Speaker 7: benefits away from them. You can't a lot of people

2862
02:45:35,400 --> 02:45:39,520
Speaker 7: when they cannot afford any kind of health insurance. Again,

2863
02:45:39,720 --> 02:45:42,320
Speaker 7: people know when the cost of visiting has gone up,

2864
02:45:43,160 --> 02:45:49,280
Speaker 7: and it has gone up. The the particular method that

2865
02:45:49,400 --> 02:45:56,440
Speaker 7: the Trump administration is using to show leadership is already

2866
02:45:56,560 --> 02:46:00,920
Speaker 7: showing cracks and that it is going to collapse, mainly

2867
02:46:01,040 --> 02:46:04,360
Speaker 7: because the price of living in this country is going

2868
02:46:04,440 --> 02:46:06,960
Speaker 7: to go It's going to go up too high. The

2869
02:46:07,040 --> 02:46:09,160
Speaker 7: price of everything and everything is going to go up.

2870
02:46:09,800 --> 02:46:15,440
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's that's gonna happen. Anyway. Meanwhile, the whole idea.

2871
02:46:15,600 --> 02:46:21,160
Speaker 7: This whole epstream thing is going to collapse on mister Trump.

2872
02:46:21,520 --> 02:46:26,360
Speaker 7: He was involved with those people, you know. He I'm

2873
02:46:26,440 --> 02:46:30,920
Speaker 7: not able to say what he did and what he

2874
02:46:31,000 --> 02:46:34,000
Speaker 7: did not do, but he was a lot more involved

2875
02:46:34,080 --> 02:46:37,960
Speaker 7: than he wants people to to believe. And the data

2876
02:46:38,720 --> 02:46:46,080
Speaker 7: will upsure that. And the Maga folk love the qan

2877
02:46:46,160 --> 02:46:50,360
Speaker 7: Noon idea more than they love him at Margaret Head

2878
02:46:50,360 --> 02:46:53,360
Speaker 7: of Green Base and other people have already demonstrated they

2879
02:46:53,520 --> 02:46:58,160
Speaker 7: are going to force the epstream evidence to come out

2880
02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:02,560
Speaker 7: is not going to be pretty. That is going to

2881
02:47:02,680 --> 02:47:07,960
Speaker 7: affect the the belief in his leadership.

2882
02:47:09,800 --> 02:47:10,440
Speaker 4: Right there though, the.

2883
02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Doctor Horne, how do we know that those files haven't

2884
02:47:14,120 --> 02:47:17,640
Speaker 1: been sanitized yet? And when when they're released, there'll just

2885
02:47:17,720 --> 02:47:20,440
Speaker 1: be a bunch of Democrats the names that are on there,

2886
02:47:20,440 --> 02:47:23,120
Speaker 1: because we know both both parties are involved were involved

2887
02:47:23,120 --> 02:47:25,640
Speaker 1: with Epstein. How do we know that they're not being

2888
02:47:25,760 --> 02:47:27,760
Speaker 1: cleaned before they release the.

2889
02:47:28,240 --> 02:47:38,760
Speaker 7: The files that are being uh handled by the Justice Department. Yeah,

2890
02:47:38,879 --> 02:47:42,680
Speaker 7: they have tied to clean those files, but those are

2891
02:47:42,760 --> 02:47:46,280
Speaker 7: not the only files. You got all of that data

2892
02:47:46,440 --> 02:47:52,840
Speaker 7: that just became public knowledge from the Epstein estate itself.

2893
02:47:53,560 --> 02:48:00,880
Speaker 7: You got fifty You got fifty thousand emails. So just

2894
02:48:01,000 --> 02:48:04,400
Speaker 7: from the sting people, you know about what he was

2895
02:48:04,520 --> 02:48:08,000
Speaker 7: talking about, how much you talked about Trump. Remember, they

2896
02:48:08,080 --> 02:48:10,600
Speaker 7: just came out and said it. In the steam files

2897
02:48:10,680 --> 02:48:16,880
Speaker 7: that have already been identified almost eighteen thousand times they

2898
02:48:16,959 --> 02:48:23,240
Speaker 7: mentioned Trump. Information is there here. It is, even though

2899
02:48:23,320 --> 02:48:27,480
Speaker 7: there's this wild attempt to try to control the information

2900
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:30,879
Speaker 7: to try to keep people from finding out. This finding

2901
02:48:30,920 --> 02:48:35,280
Speaker 7: out that that attempt is not working and it's not

2902
02:48:35,440 --> 02:48:36,000
Speaker 7: going to work.

2903
02:48:37,959 --> 02:48:41,920
Speaker 1: So there, because you're right, he is in the FC files.

2904
02:48:41,959 --> 02:48:44,560
Speaker 1: It's it's just about almost admitted that. But it's what

2905
02:48:44,680 --> 02:48:47,520
Speaker 1: he did. I think that's what the country is holding

2906
02:48:47,560 --> 02:48:48,480
Speaker 1: their collective breath.

2907
02:48:48,800 --> 02:48:49,640
Speaker 4: How deep was.

2908
02:48:51,879 --> 02:48:56,920
Speaker 7: Well? That where the evidence about that that the Justice

2909
02:48:57,000 --> 02:49:03,440
Speaker 7: Department now controls that may have been whited out? But

2910
02:49:03,640 --> 02:49:11,240
Speaker 7: again there is other alredactidents, right, well, yeah redacted. It's

2911
02:49:11,320 --> 02:49:14,959
Speaker 7: more than just taking a pencil and tracking it out.

2912
02:49:15,080 --> 02:49:17,879
Speaker 7: Now they used to light out or whatever to take

2913
02:49:17,920 --> 02:49:21,640
Speaker 7: it out. But again that's not the only evidence. That's

2914
02:49:21,680 --> 02:49:25,640
Speaker 7: not the only other information that's coming out. Again, the

2915
02:49:25,760 --> 02:49:30,480
Speaker 7: data are coming out of the Epstein is statedself is

2916
02:49:30,720 --> 02:49:33,920
Speaker 7: just as important, are more important than the files that

2917
02:49:34,080 --> 02:49:38,879
Speaker 7: the Justice Department now has and hold that thought.

2918
02:49:38,760 --> 02:49:40,440
Speaker 1: Right there at doctor On. We got to step aside

2919
02:49:40,440 --> 02:49:42,560
Speaker 1: for our last month break and we come back. Bob

2920
02:49:42,600 --> 02:49:44,760
Speaker 1: and Buffalo and Freedom Bridge and Pittsburgh. Want to speak

2921
02:49:44,760 --> 02:49:47,840
Speaker 1: with your family? YouTube can join our conversation doctor David Horn.

2922
02:49:48,200 --> 02:49:49,960
Speaker 1: Just reach out to us at eight hundred and four

2923
02:49:50,040 --> 02:49:53,040
Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six and ticket phone

2924
02:49:53,080 --> 02:49:56,000
Speaker 1: calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks to staying with

2925
02:49:56,120 --> 02:49:59,000
Speaker 1: us on this Tuesday morning with our guess, doctor David Horn.

2926
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:02,240
Speaker 1: I mentioned he's a pan Afghanist and also critical thinking.

2927
02:50:02,280 --> 02:50:04,840
Speaker 1: Scholl also gave it as well, what are your thoughts

2928
02:50:04,879 --> 02:50:06,360
Speaker 1: You wanted to speak with him? Reach out to us

2929
02:50:06,360 --> 02:50:09,160
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy

2930
02:50:09,200 --> 02:50:11,600
Speaker 1: six and Bob's calling us from Buffalo. He's on line

2931
02:50:11,640 --> 02:50:14,080
Speaker 1: three Grand Rising. Bob your question for doctor Horn.

2932
02:50:15,240 --> 02:50:20,960
Speaker 10: Yes, sir, blessed love family, My I'm thankful for another day.

2933
02:50:21,040 --> 02:50:22,880
Speaker 10: God has blessed me to see and allows me to

2934
02:50:22,920 --> 02:50:27,760
Speaker 10: listen to this program. Gotchas In terms of the cool thing,

2935
02:50:28,040 --> 02:50:30,680
Speaker 10: there's never been a national coup, but we can't forget

2936
02:50:30,720 --> 02:50:33,000
Speaker 10: that there was a coop and woman to North Carolina

2937
02:50:33,560 --> 02:50:37,320
Speaker 10: where they overthrew a black government, and I did. We're

2938
02:50:37,320 --> 02:50:40,440
Speaker 10: actually and I actually think we're living through a coup

2939
02:50:40,560 --> 02:50:44,080
Speaker 10: now that it started with Trump's first presidency and it's

2940
02:50:44,160 --> 02:50:45,840
Speaker 10: continued with the second presidency.

2941
02:50:47,160 --> 02:50:50,039
Speaker 7: But as this trial or this.

2942
02:50:51,920 --> 02:50:56,760
Speaker 10: Epstein thing is being discussed today, let's not forget they

2943
02:50:56,920 --> 02:51:00,520
Speaker 10: say that human trafficking is not necessarily about sex. It's

2944
02:51:00,560 --> 02:51:04,200
Speaker 10: about a power abuse of power. And it's not just

2945
02:51:04,280 --> 02:51:08,360
Speaker 10: about those who Epstein traffic. Let's deal with the people

2946
02:51:08,360 --> 02:51:11,800
Speaker 10: who are being trafficked throughout this nation and our community.

2947
02:51:11,920 --> 02:51:14,800
Speaker 10: Young people, young boys, and young girls who are being

2948
02:51:14,879 --> 02:51:19,120
Speaker 10: trafficked continually, have been traffic continually. So as you hear

2949
02:51:19,200 --> 02:51:22,760
Speaker 10: them talk about these young ladies, I guess one of

2950
02:51:22,800 --> 02:51:27,400
Speaker 10: them who is African American. Let's not just think of

2951
02:51:27,560 --> 02:51:29,880
Speaker 10: those people, think about all of the people who are

2952
02:51:29,879 --> 02:51:32,920
Speaker 10: being trafficked to this day and have been continually trafficked

2953
02:51:32,959 --> 02:51:37,000
Speaker 10: every since this human trafficking way that we still suffer

2954
02:51:37,080 --> 02:51:40,800
Speaker 10: from has been going on. So expand the thought beyond

2955
02:51:41,040 --> 02:51:46,680
Speaker 10: just that, and in terms of a master plan, getting

2956
02:51:46,720 --> 02:51:49,279
Speaker 10: at home begin with your family and with your community,

2957
02:51:49,360 --> 02:51:53,160
Speaker 10: your nation. You know, it's not something we can advertise

2958
02:51:54,280 --> 02:51:57,400
Speaker 10: when you talk about getting together a plan. We need

2959
02:51:57,520 --> 02:51:59,920
Speaker 10: to begin implemented it now know that we're living through

2960
02:52:00,000 --> 02:52:02,400
Speaker 10: were cool right now. So I just want people to

2961
02:52:02,640 --> 02:52:06,160
Speaker 10: think about your daughters and your sons and how they're

2962
02:52:06,200 --> 02:52:10,600
Speaker 10: being perfected as we speak all too much in this country.

2963
02:52:11,200 --> 02:52:17,560
Speaker 7: All right, Well, yeah, thank you very much that that

2964
02:52:17,720 --> 02:52:18,240
Speaker 7: was the worst of.

2965
02:52:18,280 --> 02:52:22,520
Speaker 1: Them, all right, all right? Eight hundred four five zero

2966
02:52:22,680 --> 02:52:25,680
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six. Freedom Bridge is calling us from Pittsburgh.

2967
02:52:25,800 --> 02:52:26,199
Speaker 4: Is online.

2968
02:52:26,280 --> 02:52:28,680
Speaker 1: One Grand Rising, Freedom Bridge a question.

2969
02:52:28,640 --> 02:52:30,920
Speaker 7: For doctor Horne Grand Rising.

2970
02:52:31,080 --> 02:52:34,360
Speaker 11: I want to make one statement that I'm in the

2971
02:52:34,480 --> 02:52:36,600
Speaker 11: same corner with him when it comes to the veteran.

2972
02:52:37,000 --> 02:52:40,720
Speaker 11: I'm a Vietnam veteran and my father was a Korean veteran,

2973
02:52:40,760 --> 02:52:43,480
Speaker 11: and when it comes to those benefits, even to this day,

2974
02:52:44,440 --> 02:52:47,600
Speaker 11: they stall on us or try to carve us away.

2975
02:52:48,200 --> 02:52:50,040
Speaker 11: My wife and I tried to buy a home and

2976
02:52:50,080 --> 02:52:53,640
Speaker 11: they made us go through papers after papers. It took

2977
02:52:53,680 --> 02:52:56,280
Speaker 11: ause least two years to get approve. And the only

2978
02:52:56,360 --> 02:52:58,600
Speaker 11: way we got to approve is we had an attorney

2979
02:52:58,959 --> 02:53:02,360
Speaker 11: signed the papers. My father never got one benefit, and

2980
02:53:02,440 --> 02:53:06,800
Speaker 11: nobody came knocking to tell him he was entitled to benefits,

2981
02:53:06,840 --> 02:53:09,400
Speaker 11: and he got shot in the Korean and even to

2982
02:53:09,520 --> 02:53:12,280
Speaker 11: this day, they don't tell us everything. And it depends

2983
02:53:12,320 --> 02:53:15,600
Speaker 11: on who answers that phone. When you're looking for benefits

2984
02:53:15,680 --> 02:53:19,480
Speaker 11: or to buy a house or whatever, you might never

2985
02:53:20,120 --> 02:53:24,280
Speaker 11: see or get an answer on that. The thing, Yeah,

2986
02:53:24,640 --> 02:53:28,760
Speaker 11: the other thing is money, Mike, money, Mike, all your

2987
02:53:28,840 --> 02:53:33,520
Speaker 11: family behind you must be doing great. I wish we

2988
02:53:33,560 --> 02:53:36,800
Speaker 11: could say it for our whole race. As far as reparations,

2989
02:53:37,160 --> 02:53:39,800
Speaker 11: think about all the inventions that we came up with

2990
02:53:40,760 --> 02:53:44,080
Speaker 11: air condition where are these black companies at where's all

2991
02:53:44,160 --> 02:53:46,720
Speaker 11: these things we caught in gin and many many more.

2992
02:53:47,120 --> 02:53:49,480
Speaker 11: We need to put them on top of the debt

2993
02:53:49,560 --> 02:53:52,600
Speaker 11: of because you just took them white folks with their

2994
02:53:53,480 --> 02:53:57,000
Speaker 11: patent method. But we as people, we got to stop

2995
02:53:57,080 --> 02:54:00,000
Speaker 11: being afraid to say, hey, I'm not going to say

2996
02:54:00,280 --> 02:54:03,280
Speaker 11: nothing because I might lose mind. That's the fear. We

2997
02:54:03,520 --> 02:54:06,960
Speaker 11: fear our own truth. We live in our fears, and

2998
02:54:07,040 --> 02:54:09,920
Speaker 11: we got to start that for our children, for our

2999
02:54:10,000 --> 02:54:13,320
Speaker 11: future tomorrow. So that's what I have to say about

3000
02:54:13,360 --> 02:54:16,920
Speaker 11: all that, Well said brother Well said.

3001
02:54:16,959 --> 02:54:25,240
Speaker 7: The the look, we as black folks and we are

3002
02:54:25,440 --> 02:54:29,640
Speaker 7: Africans understand they were lying lying us the whole time.

3003
02:54:29,800 --> 02:54:36,320
Speaker 7: They the whole idea that those who look like us

3004
02:54:36,959 --> 02:54:41,280
Speaker 7: are African descendants. The entire world is the African descendant.

3005
02:54:41,360 --> 02:54:44,560
Speaker 7: Everybody came from Africa. They don't want to admit that that,

3006
02:54:44,840 --> 02:54:49,440
Speaker 7: but even they did. As strange as they are, they

3007
02:54:49,600 --> 02:54:55,360
Speaker 7: will continue doing whatever they can to stay on top,

3008
02:54:56,800 --> 02:55:01,680
Speaker 7: to be the master, to be in check charge. That

3009
02:55:01,959 --> 02:55:06,720
Speaker 7: is their logic being in charge. In order for us

3010
02:55:07,200 --> 02:55:11,000
Speaker 7: to be able to combat that logic, we have to

3011
02:55:11,200 --> 02:55:15,840
Speaker 7: utilize what the brother is saying, our own internal strength

3012
02:55:17,280 --> 02:55:21,840
Speaker 7: right now in this country. That strength is much more

3013
02:55:22,000 --> 02:55:28,040
Speaker 7: economic than it is political. We need to organize ourselves

3014
02:55:28,280 --> 02:55:34,840
Speaker 7: economically to get better answers that we have gotten. We

3015
02:55:35,120 --> 02:55:40,880
Speaker 7: must plan economically to take back what we need from

3016
02:55:40,959 --> 02:55:43,760
Speaker 7: the society that are not giving us what we have earned.

3017
02:55:48,080 --> 02:55:50,560
Speaker 1: About Yeah, let me jump me here for a second,

3018
02:55:50,640 --> 02:55:52,560
Speaker 1: a ten away from the top, because freedom, it is

3019
02:55:52,760 --> 02:55:53,480
Speaker 1: something interesting.

3020
02:55:53,560 --> 02:55:53,879
Speaker 4: It said.

3021
02:55:53,959 --> 02:55:57,000
Speaker 1: Fear is that the technique that this administration is You

3022
02:55:57,800 --> 02:56:00,680
Speaker 1: afraid to say anything, anything that might be personal. Yeah,

3023
02:56:00,760 --> 02:56:03,960
Speaker 1: we didn't even talk about the cryptocurrency scam is going on,

3024
02:56:04,200 --> 02:56:04,400
Speaker 1: you know.

3025
02:56:06,800 --> 02:56:07,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, but.

3026
02:56:08,800 --> 02:56:12,480
Speaker 1: What Freedom said that he's got people afraid, people are scared.

3027
02:56:12,520 --> 02:56:15,760
Speaker 1: It's Margie Taylor Green. She she's got a backbone and

3028
02:56:15,840 --> 02:56:18,160
Speaker 1: she's starting to speak out. Do you think this will

3029
02:56:18,240 --> 02:56:21,000
Speaker 1: catch on? And you think that people now will start

3030
02:56:21,080 --> 02:56:22,920
Speaker 1: to resist because people are.

3031
02:56:22,800 --> 02:56:27,800
Speaker 7: Scared, they will start to resist. And again for white people,

3032
02:56:27,840 --> 02:56:31,800
Speaker 7: it's gonna come over Epstein files. For us, it has

3033
02:56:31,959 --> 02:56:37,240
Speaker 7: to be we'd organizing our own money, our own property,

3034
02:56:37,320 --> 02:56:41,160
Speaker 7: our own resources, so we can control that to get

3035
02:56:41,240 --> 02:56:41,760
Speaker 7: what we need.

3036
02:56:44,000 --> 02:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Because you know, he sued these a lot of these

3037
02:56:46,640 --> 02:56:49,039
Speaker 1: broadcast companies and they caved in or because they were

3038
02:56:49,240 --> 02:56:50,880
Speaker 1: ideals they wanted to make, and they gave him a

3039
02:56:50,879 --> 02:56:51,360
Speaker 1: lot of money.

3040
02:56:51,440 --> 02:56:52,920
Speaker 7: Dreading them, he threatened.

3041
02:56:52,959 --> 02:56:55,879
Speaker 1: When he's threatening the BBC because for something they did,

3042
02:56:55,959 --> 02:56:58,120
Speaker 1: and the bridge are tell them, go kick rocks. You

3043
02:56:58,240 --> 02:57:00,640
Speaker 1: know you can't get it if you want it, I'm

3044
02:57:00,680 --> 02:57:05,039
Speaker 1: just willing, right, how's he gonna collect it? Not because

3045
02:57:05,040 --> 02:57:06,680
Speaker 1: they tell him go kick rocks. You know we're not

3046
02:57:06,760 --> 02:57:10,080
Speaker 1: going to pay you. You know, this is not America.

3047
02:57:10,200 --> 02:57:12,240
Speaker 1: You know, the Britzs are like laughing at him. So

3048
02:57:12,600 --> 02:57:16,440
Speaker 1: but he seems like this the people, the people on

3049
02:57:16,520 --> 02:57:19,200
Speaker 1: this side of the ocean capitulated to what he's right.

3050
02:57:20,320 --> 02:57:22,040
Speaker 1: I think, okay, I write him a check and he

3051
02:57:22,120 --> 02:57:24,520
Speaker 1: boasted about the check over who he got fired. He

3052
02:57:24,680 --> 02:57:26,920
Speaker 1: tried that with the Brits and he's still trying it.

3053
02:57:27,000 --> 02:57:27,879
Speaker 1: And they told him, you.

3054
02:57:27,920 --> 02:57:28,440
Speaker 4: Know where to go.

3055
02:57:29,560 --> 02:57:32,520
Speaker 7: Yeah you can't. If you if you appease a bully,

3056
02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:37,280
Speaker 7: all you've done is increase his appetite. You haven't. You

3057
02:57:37,440 --> 02:57:38,880
Speaker 7: haven't gotten him to go away.

3058
02:57:41,800 --> 02:57:43,680
Speaker 1: So what is the answer, though, How do we get

3059
02:57:43,720 --> 02:57:46,640
Speaker 1: people to be not scared to be You know, we

3060
02:57:46,760 --> 02:57:48,800
Speaker 1: were we were some bold people back in the day,

3061
02:57:48,879 --> 02:57:50,600
Speaker 1: back in the sixties. We thought we could change the

3062
02:57:50,640 --> 02:57:53,120
Speaker 1: country and we did to stop the Vietnam woy you

3063
02:57:53,200 --> 02:57:56,360
Speaker 1: remember that. But it seems like this generation now, you know,

3064
02:57:56,720 --> 02:58:00,720
Speaker 1: doctor Horn, they're afraid he got a bullion and they're all,

3065
02:58:01,000 --> 02:58:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, power into you know, and it just takes

3066
02:58:03,800 --> 02:58:05,920
Speaker 1: another step, takes another step and keeps on going.

3067
02:58:06,160 --> 02:58:13,360
Speaker 7: Right is right? It's all about organizing. And you don't

3068
02:58:13,400 --> 02:58:17,640
Speaker 7: have organized in a group of five hundred or five thousand.

3069
02:58:17,720 --> 02:58:21,120
Speaker 7: You can organize in a group of three, four, five, ten.

3070
02:58:21,920 --> 02:58:26,480
Speaker 7: We have to organize our own resources. That's where the

3071
02:58:26,640 --> 02:58:33,240
Speaker 7: plan would come from. We need to start meeting more

3072
02:58:33,480 --> 02:58:36,680
Speaker 7: with each other and not meeting with them. We need

3073
02:58:36,720 --> 02:58:40,720
Speaker 7: to stop putting out all our business under damn computer.

3074
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:43,879
Speaker 7: We need to stop telling everybody everything about what we're

3075
02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:47,560
Speaker 7: doing and taking pictures about everything. We need to start

3076
02:58:47,680 --> 02:58:53,240
Speaker 7: talking to five or fifteen or twenty people who understand

3077
02:58:54,240 --> 02:58:56,960
Speaker 7: what we are going through in our neighborhood so we

3078
02:58:57,120 --> 02:59:03,080
Speaker 7: can improve our neighborhood. Is organizing street by street, organizing, ok,

3079
02:59:03,240 --> 02:59:08,240
Speaker 7: neighborhood by neighborhood, organizing to the point that we desired.

3080
02:59:10,480 --> 02:59:13,160
Speaker 7: We are going to keep our money in our pocket

3081
02:59:14,040 --> 02:59:18,640
Speaker 7: until you act right, until you provide for us what

3082
02:59:18,800 --> 02:59:22,480
Speaker 7: we need. That's what we're talking about. That's the logic

3083
02:59:22,560 --> 02:59:22,920
Speaker 7: of all this.

3084
02:59:24,800 --> 02:59:27,360
Speaker 1: You know what Doctor Dick Gregory talked about this quite

3085
02:59:27,360 --> 02:59:29,480
Speaker 1: a bit when when he was there. Every time it's

3086
02:59:29,560 --> 02:59:29,800
Speaker 1: time of.

3087
02:59:29,760 --> 02:59:31,879
Speaker 7: The year, you got you got a good memory call.

3088
02:59:32,680 --> 02:59:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he would talk as you know we talked about.

3089
02:59:35,760 --> 02:59:38,560
Speaker 1: But he says, you can't get black folks to boycott Christmas.

3090
02:59:38,680 --> 02:59:41,120
Speaker 1: There's something about us when it comes to you know,

3091
02:59:41,280 --> 02:59:43,880
Speaker 1: that's snow white and that the tree and all of

3092
02:59:43,920 --> 02:59:44,720
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.

3093
02:59:45,640 --> 02:59:47,120
Speaker 4: Right, we fall for that.

3094
02:59:49,959 --> 02:59:53,520
Speaker 7: It trained us. It trained us for behavior patterns. Yeah,

3095
02:59:53,600 --> 02:59:55,720
Speaker 7: they we got it. We act like we have to

3096
02:59:55,800 --> 02:59:57,760
Speaker 7: spend our money. We have to go and give our

3097
02:59:57,840 --> 03:00:00,680
Speaker 7: money away to uh the shop them all.

3098
03:00:03,200 --> 03:00:04,920
Speaker 1: And we're going to see next week is I think

3099
03:00:04,959 --> 03:00:07,360
Speaker 1: next week is Black Friday. You're gonna see and they're

3100
03:00:07,360 --> 03:00:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna show how people are busting through to get through

3101
03:00:09,640 --> 03:00:12,000
Speaker 1: the stores. And I always watch. I'm always looking for

3102
03:00:12,080 --> 03:00:13,840
Speaker 1: our folks, and I just always see a bunch of

3103
03:00:14,080 --> 03:00:16,160
Speaker 1: folks up in the front, you know, because we gotta

3104
03:00:16,200 --> 03:00:18,840
Speaker 1: get We gotta get to whatever gift we gotta do

3105
03:00:19,040 --> 03:00:22,760
Speaker 1: an exchange, get family. Let's let's do something different this year.

3106
03:00:22,840 --> 03:00:24,240
Speaker 1: Let's let's celebrate Quansa.

3107
03:00:24,680 --> 03:00:25,560
Speaker 3: You know, let's do that.

3108
03:00:25,640 --> 03:00:28,640
Speaker 4: If we're gonna do something, let's celebrate Quansa exactly.

3109
03:00:29,640 --> 03:00:34,400
Speaker 7: We celebrate black families, and we celebrate our survival a

3110
03:00:34,600 --> 03:00:38,720
Speaker 7: far celebrate each other, you know, house to house kind

3111
03:00:38,760 --> 03:00:42,920
Speaker 7: of stuff. We don't have to keep running fighting to

3112
03:00:43,120 --> 03:00:46,400
Speaker 7: give our money, our our resources. A way, we need

3113
03:00:46,480 --> 03:00:47,120
Speaker 7: to stop doing that.

3114
03:00:51,120 --> 03:00:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but doctor Horne, how do we envince the majority

3115
03:00:54,200 --> 03:00:54,920
Speaker 1: of our folks.

3116
03:00:54,720 --> 03:00:55,120
Speaker 4: That do that?

3117
03:00:57,720 --> 03:01:01,480
Speaker 7: You start small, you God, we have four or five

3118
03:01:01,600 --> 03:01:06,160
Speaker 7: or six people who understand in a particular neighborhood, they meet,

3119
03:01:06,920 --> 03:01:11,000
Speaker 7: they collect their own resources, they demonstrate what can be

3120
03:01:11,120 --> 03:01:14,440
Speaker 7: done with that. You start small, you build, You show

3121
03:01:14,520 --> 03:01:20,199
Speaker 7: people what can be done until they finally feel safe

3122
03:01:20,320 --> 03:01:24,040
Speaker 7: enough to trust you and to trust themselves to make

3123
03:01:24,160 --> 03:01:27,280
Speaker 7: decisions that I help all of you. That's how we

3124
03:01:27,360 --> 03:01:31,520
Speaker 7: get it done. But street by street, house by house,

3125
03:01:31,640 --> 03:01:32,840
Speaker 7: neighborhood by neighborhood.

3126
03:01:34,520 --> 03:01:36,360
Speaker 1: I like what you said about the plan that we

3127
03:01:36,480 --> 03:01:40,640
Speaker 1: have to to get the youth involved as well, because

3128
03:01:40,680 --> 03:01:43,720
Speaker 1: you get their energy, because they they have energy and

3129
03:01:43,800 --> 03:01:48,280
Speaker 1: the future for them, and consulting the elders to come

3130
03:01:48,360 --> 03:01:50,200
Speaker 1: up with a plan. But we've got to put We've

3131
03:01:50,200 --> 03:01:52,680
Speaker 1: got to come up and put both groups together. How

3132
03:01:52,720 --> 03:01:54,039
Speaker 1: can we put both groups together?

3133
03:01:57,160 --> 03:02:01,000
Speaker 7: Their car is the logic we have to work out.

3134
03:02:01,240 --> 03:02:05,040
Speaker 7: How do we put us back together? How do we

3135
03:02:05,280 --> 03:02:07,760
Speaker 7: how do we get back to trusting each other enough

3136
03:02:08,280 --> 03:02:14,200
Speaker 7: to work together to get stuff done. There is a method.

3137
03:02:14,640 --> 03:02:17,640
Speaker 7: We used to know what that method was. We have

3138
03:02:17,800 --> 03:02:21,880
Speaker 7: forgotten it or a lady's side and don't even know

3139
03:02:21,920 --> 03:02:23,680
Speaker 7: where it is now. We got to go and find it,

3140
03:02:24,400 --> 03:02:28,800
Speaker 7: but it it's there. We used to organize that way,

3141
03:02:29,440 --> 03:02:32,720
Speaker 7: neighborhood by neighborhood. That's how we got the Klan out

3142
03:02:32,760 --> 03:02:36,600
Speaker 7: of the black neighbor out of the black townships. We

3143
03:02:36,720 --> 03:02:40,960
Speaker 7: had to organize in those townships. Y'all, bring y'all behind

3144
03:02:41,040 --> 03:02:43,080
Speaker 7: them here. We're gonna fire y'all up. We're not gonna

3145
03:02:43,120 --> 03:02:44,720
Speaker 7: wait for you to come and burn us. Now, we're

3146
03:02:44,720 --> 03:02:49,520
Speaker 7: gonna burn you. How the black families had to organize

3147
03:02:49,560 --> 03:02:52,000
Speaker 7: to do that, I'm saying we can do the same

3148
03:02:52,080 --> 03:02:55,920
Speaker 7: thing again, organized for our own survival, our own growth.

3149
03:02:56,240 --> 03:02:59,039
Speaker 7: Don't wait for them to come for us. Get ready.

3150
03:03:00,800 --> 03:03:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you sounded like Kwame Terrae. Now his famous slash

3151
03:03:03,959 --> 03:03:07,960
Speaker 1: was organized, organized, organized, Yeah, And I was.

3152
03:03:08,920 --> 03:03:12,400
Speaker 7: I was a a number of the All African People's

3153
03:03:12,440 --> 03:03:16,200
Speaker 7: Well roofs Here party for a long time. Yeah.

3154
03:03:16,480 --> 03:03:20,280
Speaker 1: He did his final interview with us when we're in

3155
03:03:20,480 --> 03:03:23,000
Speaker 1: l A and I says, you know, and he was

3156
03:03:23,080 --> 03:03:26,240
Speaker 1: so willy that somebody hold Yeah, somebody had to hold

3157
03:03:26,280 --> 03:03:28,959
Speaker 1: the phone for him. And he was in Conakay, Guinea

3158
03:03:29,000 --> 03:03:31,120
Speaker 1: and he says, I said, well, what you want to

3159
03:03:31,360 --> 03:03:32,000
Speaker 1: leave our people?

3160
03:03:32,040 --> 03:03:32,920
Speaker 4: We want to tell him?

3161
03:03:33,040 --> 03:03:36,879
Speaker 1: And he says organized, organized, organized, organized.

3162
03:03:37,120 --> 03:03:37,320
Speaker 11: Yeah.

3163
03:03:37,400 --> 03:03:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, Well, we got organized our way out

3164
03:03:40,720 --> 03:03:42,440
Speaker 1: of here. Doctor Hornt. Just want to thank you for

3165
03:03:42,800 --> 03:03:45,640
Speaker 1: sharing your thoughts with us this morning. And uh, can

3166
03:03:45,720 --> 03:03:46,480
Speaker 1: folks still reach you?

3167
03:03:46,520 --> 03:03:49,080
Speaker 4: Are you still? Are you still not on social media?

3168
03:03:49,520 --> 03:03:52,480
Speaker 7: I am not on social media. I still got to walk.

3169
03:03:56,080 --> 03:03:58,000
Speaker 1: Right, brother said, he cans tell us about be careful

3170
03:03:58,040 --> 03:04:00,400
Speaker 1: what we put on social media. Somebody folks on stand

3171
03:04:00,440 --> 03:04:02,640
Speaker 1: that you know, use it, don't let it use you.

3172
03:04:03,200 --> 03:04:05,200
Speaker 1: But you're smart, you know how to do it, doctor Harn.

3173
03:04:05,480 --> 03:04:08,800
Speaker 1: But thank you again this morning, and.

3174
03:04:08,920 --> 03:04:11,360
Speaker 7: You acquite welcome call. And thank you for already a

3175
03:04:11,400 --> 03:04:12,080
Speaker 7: great listeners.

3176
03:04:13,000 --> 03:04:15,520
Speaker 1: All right, family, that's it for the day. Classes dismissed.

3177
03:04:15,560 --> 03:04:19,200
Speaker 1: Stay strong, stay positive, please please stay healthy. We'll see

3178
03:04:19,240 --> 03:04:21,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning six o'clock right here in Baltimore on ten

3179
03:04:22,000 --> 03:04:25,560
Speaker 1: ten WLB and also in the DMV on fourteen fifty

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03:04:26,040 --> 03:04:26,760
Speaker 1: WOL