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Speaker 1: from the one hundred and thirty seventh Rose Bowl, and

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Speaker 1: if Mother Nature is wearing her ugly head, I think

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a good omen or not.

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Speaker 1: We'll get more into that Scott document from the athletics.

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Speaker 1: Gonna join us coming up at eight thirty. Kevin Bow

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Speaker 1: and James Boyd and Caleb Zuver with you. James, how

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Speaker 1: long does the Jacksonville game down there seem to you?

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Speaker 1: When you think back to that Jacksonville game whatever that

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Speaker 2: Does that seem like a while? About three and a

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Speaker 2: half months. Honestly, there's been so much craziness has happened

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Speaker 2: it's higher midseason, and that's like, which was a good thing? Fifteenth?

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Speaker 2: I know, it's like the fifteenth thing on the list

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Speaker 1: So you go back to the Monday after that game,

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Speaker 2: Is that the same week you asked Rick Carlisle about

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Speaker 1: Believe the tuesday after it might have been that following

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Speaker 2: Yes, ask for Carlisle about getting.

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Speaker 1: To number nine ninety nine, you Jakestone. And now we

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Speaker 1: Boys, New Year's Eve and slump busters are probably not

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Speaker 1: That is a season long. They will play tomorrow that

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Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle will join us coming up tomorrow, and of

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Speaker 1: course the Colts are in the midst of a six

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Speaker 2: That's when we have to turn to Iu Caleb. That's

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Speaker 2: And I walk in here, you just ruin the mood

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Purdue last night. Very impressive up there

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Speaker 1: Butler at Creighton tonight, you can hear that on our airways.

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Speaker 2: A lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: So it was a while one last night. For those

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Speaker 1: Do we need to see Rocky four with Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: You're the head coach. Yeah, he's like, let me talk

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Speaker 2: to film, Like, can you talk to Riley too?

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Speaker 1: I mean, god busts the forty four. I mean I

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Speaker 1: that'll be awesome. But we don't need to see that anymore.

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Speaker 1: I just play Riley Leonard, get him his first NFL start.

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Speaker 2: It'll probably be a disaster.

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Speaker 1: Who cares if you need rally Leonard in September next year.

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Speaker 2: At least he's gotten his feet. What oh, he's probably

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Speaker 2: get too on right, that makes zero sense. He should

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Speaker 1: What makes more sense playing Philip Rivers or Sauce Gardner?

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Speaker 3: This is why this sport is different than all the

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Speaker 3: others Kevin, small sample size, right, So any any chance

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I think Riley needs some game reps.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if your birthday fell in December thirtieth?

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Speaker 1: in West Lofaiette. Last night it was Purdue all over

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Speaker 1: Is that a run at back shirt from Caleb Zuverer?

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many the Blue.

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Speaker 2: With what I said at the end of the show.

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Speaker 1: know a couple of flurries, but it's not like you

437
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Speaker 1: had anything coming down on you during the game. And

438
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Speaker 1: now on Thursday, if you believe the forecast, we could

439
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Speaker 1: be looking at a sixty degree day out in California,

440
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Speaker 1: but steady rain, I would rather layer it up, maybe

441
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 1: throwing the liquid blanket versus the steady rain coming down.

442
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's changing my opinion there because I don't drink.

443
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm still I'm sticking with anything above freezing.

444
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 2: I have to roll with that, damn. But also I

445
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Speaker 2: feel like I'm not like a true college.

446
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Speaker 1: By you from a Midwest standpoint man.

447
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Speaker 2: People always say that I was. I want a soft life.

448
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: I don't want a hard life. Everyone always tells me

449
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 2: that you're soft. Yes, I know that is the ideal

450
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Speaker 2: point of living. I don't want it to be hard.

451
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: I don't want strife in my life. And that is

452
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Speaker 2: what cold weather brings me.

453
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Speaker 1: Maybe good omen Colt's rain in the super Bowl and

454
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Speaker 1: we'll see Indiana boots on the ground out there in Pasadena.

455
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: And someone said James is not trying to be out

456
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Speaker 2: there and the cold, with the shirt off and the

457
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Speaker 2: body paint. Absolutely not. And again I think it's because

458
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Speaker 2: I don't wear the liquor jacket. I think I would

459
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Speaker 2: have to break my own like I don't know, sobriety

460
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Speaker 2: if that's the word I want to use here to

461
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Speaker 2: do that, we'll get a little bit of lay of

462
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Speaker 2: the land.

463
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Speaker 1: Out there in Pasadena coming up in less than an hour.

464
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Speaker 1: Scott Document from the Athletic will join us. Seth am

465
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Speaker 1: I saying that right, Hannigan, I think he got it.

466
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say. I have to ask him later

467
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Speaker 2: this week how to say his name.

468
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Speaker 1: The Colts signed a quarterback yesterday to their practice squad,

469
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Speaker 1: so they are now back with four qbs in the

470
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Speaker 1: building here for Week eighteen. For those unfamiliar with Seth,

471
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Speaker 1: we have actually talked about him before in the show.

472
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Speaker 1: He was the other quarterback they worked out some whatever

473
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Speaker 1: it was now four weeks ago when they signed Philip Rivers,

474
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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent out of Memphis. Spent time with Jacksonville

475
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Speaker 1: this off season, So just update everybody on where the

476
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: culture at quarterback wise for Week eighteen. Philip Rivers remains

477
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Speaker 1: on the fifty three men roster, as does Riley Leonard.

478
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Speaker 1: They've now got Seth on the practice squad. Anthony Richardson

479
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: technically is still on injured reserve. He has practice here

480
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Speaker 1: the last two weeks. The vibe you got yesterday from

481
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Speaker 1: Shane syching with Anthony Richardson in Week eighteen being a

482
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Speaker 1: possibility was what that.

483
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Speaker 2: It probably is not a possible possibility. And I wonder

484
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Speaker 2: Kevin if the move to sign Seth Hennigan was in

485
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Speaker 2: response to that, because in there you probably don't have

486
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Speaker 2: to make a move at quarterback if you think Anthony's

487
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Speaker 2: going to be available in any capacity for the season finale.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And just to reiterate where things have been on

489
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Speaker 1: Richardson for me for the last several weeks, I think

490
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: the vision impairment is really really real. And I hate

491
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Speaker 1: to bring up this moment for Richardson, but it is

492
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Speaker 1: somewhat recent reality. The last time we saw him in

493
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Speaker 1: a game was I believe the preseason right to take

494
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Speaker 1: a snap he got in for Yeah, he got in

495
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Speaker 1: was Raider game. I believe it might have been the Raiders,

496
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Speaker 1: him and him and Ady Mitchell had that. Yeah, because

497
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Speaker 1: he's got like two pass attempts this year. Remember he

498
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Speaker 1: had the one himself.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, gosh, I was so fitting for him.

500
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Speaker 1: Uh. I go back to the preseason and that play

501
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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, miss blown assignment pre snap.

502
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Speaker 2: Talk about something that feels like a lifetime ago. Yeah,

503
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: and he gets blown up.

504
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Speaker 1: And now if you're going to throw a vision element

505
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Speaker 1: into that. And I say this in all seriousness, not

506
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Speaker 1: you know, to poke fun by any means, but like

507
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Speaker 1: if all of a sudden you're now adding that to it.

508
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: Can you imagine you throw him out there in a

509
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Speaker 1: game and for whatever reason, the vision is impacting how

510
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: well he's seen it, and now he takes another hit

511
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Speaker 1: and suffers a different injury.

512
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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, so I that's a possibility. I'm glad

513
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Speaker 2: you didn't gloss over the fact that the other element

514
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: of this is he has been injury prone in his career,

515
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Speaker 2: like he's went in Red Jersey in practice, is what

516
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Speaker 2: I'm getting at.

517
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Speaker 1: You know, it's different than when Will Anderson Junior and

518
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Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter are coming at you coming up Sunday one. Sure,

519
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: and it sounds like Houston still will play there, guys.

520
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 1: I know they're a little banged up, but now they

521
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Speaker 1: need Tennessee to beat Jacksonville in order to have a

522
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Speaker 1: chance to win the AFC South. But it does sound like,

523
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Speaker 1: you know, who knows, maybe as the game moves along,

524
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Speaker 1: if Jacksonville builds a bit big lead, maybe they changed

525
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: some stuff. But I know we saw I believe Jim

526
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: Harball said yesterday like they're gonna rest Justin Herbert without

527
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Speaker 1: really needing to play for anything. But it sounds like Houston.

528
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Speaker 1: Let's go back to this audio here in the spring

529
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Speaker 1: cable if you don't mind, from Carli Ersa Gordon, and

530
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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear Mike Chappell ask a couple of questions here.

531
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Speaker 1: But you know, more or less, James, it was about

532
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Speaker 1: the evaluation on Chainsiching and Chris Ballard uh and you know,

533
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: if you could put a label on playoffs or bust

534
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: necessarily to this season. And as you know, Carly is

535
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Speaker 1: asked to follow up from chap She does eventually get

536
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Speaker 1: to the injury element to it. Again, we haven't heard

537
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Speaker 1: her talking unless I'm missing something. This is the only

538
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Speaker 1: press conference she has had, right, yes, only formal sit

539
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Speaker 1: down press conference. She's spoken here and there in other places.

540
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Speaker 1: But yes, okay, so this is back in May, Carli

541
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Speaker 1: Ersa Gordon just true with.

542
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Speaker 2: The fact, I mean, this isn't new. You guys have

543
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: been involved, maybe more so the last couple year. Kid,

544
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Speaker 2: I don't know the deed.

545
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: Are you confident in the direction that teams taken to

546
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Speaker 1: get is in with Chris and with the coach and

547
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Speaker 1: what what what's you're comfort up with where this.

548
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Speaker 5: Team is and where it's going, Mike Group, We we

549
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 5: are very confident. Having said that, I think you know,

550
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Speaker 5: as my dad said before he passed, you know, Chris

551
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 5: and Shane know that they have things they need to fix.

552
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 5: And you know, we talked about not micro managing people,

553
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 5: but also we have a standard here and it hasn't

554
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Speaker 5: been good enough. And you know, winning is great, but

555
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Speaker 5: I would even take it a step further and saying,

556
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Speaker 5: you know, we're really committed to being the best and

557
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 5: if we're the best, we will win games. And I

558
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 5: think Chris and Shane are totally capable of doing that

559
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 5: and we're confident that they can because not a.

560
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: Playoffs or else.

561
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Speaker 1: It's just just reinforce everything that's in place.

562
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Speaker 2: I mean it's hard to put up.

563
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Speaker 5: Do you have do you have a crystal ball with you?

564
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Speaker 5: Because I would I mean, like yes, of course, you know,

565
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 5: things happen and some of it is, some of it

566
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Speaker 5: is they're so we all have to look at all

567
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 5: these factors. I mean, if we had all these injuries,

568
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: you know, decimator, we don't I mean, knock on right

569
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Speaker 5: on that. I'm just saying there's so many different directions.

570
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Speaker 5: That's part of why it's so fun and scary to

571
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Speaker 5: work in sports.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you're reading the end of that, James.

573
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Speaker 2: I think from the perspective of not having the crystal ball,

574
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Speaker 2: she allowed herself to at least have some flexibility because

575
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Speaker 2: we all know had she said playoffs or else, then

576
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Speaker 2: we would have all been writing, well, she said this,

577
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: and she's got to stick to it. And you know,

578
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Speaker 2: I understand having some nuance there and being smart about

579
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Speaker 2: what she said in that moment, But man, boy, so

580
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: much has changed from where they were at eight and

581
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: two's where they are now at eight and eight. And

582
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Speaker 2: I just wonder again to your point, Kevin, from throughout

583
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Speaker 2: the last few weeks, do you evalue this for Chris

584
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Speaker 2: Ballad in particular as a one year thing or a

585
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 2: nine year thing? Yeah? That how much do you? And

586
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's one of the other, but I

587
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: do think there's a balance there and what does that balance?

588
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Speaker 2: What does the scales look like. Is it's seventy thirty,

589
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: is it eighty twenty? What is it?

590
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the biggest question I think for me right now.

591
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Speaker 1: Are we talking a nine year evaluation or a one

592
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Speaker 1: year evaluation.

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Speaker 2: Like to me, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think all of a sudden you just closs

595
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Speaker 1: over the first eight years.

596
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Speaker 2: You certainly can't. I think that would be franchise in malpractice.

597
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: But there is part of me that thinks that could

598
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Speaker 2: be at play here.

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Speaker 1: Again, that's not my opinion, that's just what I'm inferned

600
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: a little bit here. But you know, should the slate

601
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 1: have been just wipe clean? With carli Ursa Gordon now

602
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: stepping into things? And by the way, that was a

603
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Speaker 1: June press conference, James correct me in the in the

604
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Speaker 1: break there, so that was what right at the end

605
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Speaker 1: of OTAs I guess the offseason program leading into the

606
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Speaker 1: summer break. So yeah, to me, the nine year element

607
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: is much more of an evaluation period than just or

608
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Speaker 1: just in hell, some people could say, hey, whatever the

609
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Speaker 1: one year. You know, there are some reasons there, you know,

610
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: good and bad, that you could look at it through

611
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Speaker 1: a crystal ball. I posted a fan pull yesterday just

612
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: asking simply, fans, what do you want? There are four

613
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: choices to it. A was no changes? B was you

614
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: fire both? C? Was you fire ballard? D A was

615
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: you fire stiking? The results. It's nearing about four thousand

616
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Speaker 1: votes here, James, you got nine percent of people saying

617
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Speaker 1: they want nothing done. You're at thirty one and a

618
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: half percent say fire both. The number is nearly sixty

619
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Speaker 1: percent say fire just ballard, and then you have less

620
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Speaker 1: than a percent that says fire just stiking for what

621
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Speaker 1: it's worth. It's the same pole I did this time

622
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: last year. That nothing has grown a little bit. It

623
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Speaker 1: was five percent last year, it's up to nine this year.

624
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: The fire both has come down a bit about ten percent.

625
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: The firing ballard has increased by six percent.

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Speaker 3: I think that's very representative, Kevin, of how a lot

627
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Speaker 3: of this fan base has grown to feel over the

628
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Speaker 3: last year. Like I just not even talking about what

629
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: we all think, but I think just looking out and

630
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: you guys are writing stories every day about this stuff

631
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: and getting a lot of reaction from people, it does

632
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: certainly feel like the fan base is done with the

633
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: general manager, right Like that has just I think been

634
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: the overwhelming common opinion, and that this season has really

635
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: kind of shown as that the fan base feels really

636
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: checked out on the front office.

637
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Speaker 2: I would agree there Sometimes I think, man, I'm not

638
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: too online and is it's just a loud minority, But no,

639
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: I do believe there is the majority of the fan

640
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: base that would wish to see Chris Ballard gone. The

641
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: way I look at it when it comes to the

642
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: evaluation process of this team is again, how much do

643
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: you weigh the injuries that happened this year? And also

644
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: the crazy part about this conversation Caleb and Kevin is

645
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: that this percentage rise for Ballor being outed is after

646
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: he finally did all the other stuff that he hadn't

647
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: done him yet, see true? Which is I mean? And

648
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: again I'm not sitting here saying the guy should be

649
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: brought back, but boy, he did go after it in

650
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: a way we haven't seen. I mean, I can get

651
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: into the roster construction. And yes, the defensive line front

652
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: seven didn't love it, still a big weakness, probably one

653
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: of his biggest flaws in building this team. But does

654
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: that mean you bring them back? It is tempting, I

655
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: think for it is the fact that he attempted, oh

656
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: to change his ways enough for you to say, you know,

657
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: how do you kind of rate that chem Because I

658
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: do think that is another evaluation point for the front office,

659
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: not just him, I mean for I should say for

660
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: ownership when evaluating him, because he did get aggressive and

661
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: free agency, he did make the big trade, he did

662
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: invest in the secondary in ways we haven't seen. So

663
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what else he could have done.

664
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: But also, this is not one year, as you said,

665
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: and is not a lot to fall back on. Otherwise, Yeah, I.

666
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: Think it's important to change his ways. It's probably met.

667
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: My first thought when I think of that, James as

668
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: why did it take that long? And again this gets

669
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: into the is it a nine year evaluation or a

670
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: one year evaluation? And so now I sit here and

671
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: say to myself, Okay, because he tried and did do

672
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: things differently, does that mean that the least just gets longer? Like,

673
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: you don't miss look at the results. You just say, oh,

674
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: well you tried to do some things differently. So here

675
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: you go. Max Bowen, you you tried to eat a

676
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: vegetable last night, so you get treats for the next month.

677
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: What's that Simpson's meme?

678
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: Is it bart the kid or that gets the cake

679
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: that says at least you tried or whatever? Yeah?

680
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: Right, oh boy, that cake would have been very popular

681
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: around these parts the last few years.

682
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: So That's where I'm a little torn on it. And

683
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: like again, the injury excuse, I find it difficult to

684
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: just say these injuries are snap your fingers and everything's

685
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: fine next year. We're talking about a torn achilles. We're

686
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: talking about Deforce Buckner about to turn what thirty two,

687
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: thirty one?

688
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: I think Botten thirty two probably yeah.

689
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: And he just had neck surgery. We're talking about Javarius

690
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: Ward who has already pondered retirement with three concussions in

691
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: a what seven week span?

692
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: Eight week span?

693
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 6: Here?

694
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: Like these are not Jonathan Taylor at the age of

695
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: twenty three with a high ankle sprain needing to rest

696
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: in the office season. These to me are not just

697
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: your run of the mill injuries. And you know, again,

698
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: as much as we sit here and say that in

699
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: our market, hey eh, bad luck with injuries, next year

700
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: will be better. What's Kansas City saying with Patrick Mahomes,

701
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: What's Cincinnati saying with Burrow? What's Baltimore saying with Lamar Jackson.

702
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: So I just struggle to sit here and say, NH injuries.

703
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: So I do have a question on that front. What

704
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: is the biggest reason they collapsed? Is it injuries? Is

705
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: it something else? Is it a deeper I don't know, Yeah,

706
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: psychological edge that they lack.

707
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: I think with all these things that can divide the pie,

708
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: injuries are certainly a chunk of it.

709
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: I think think the biggest chunk. I'll struggle with this

710
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: question myself. Yeah, I tend to lean towards that because

711
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: I do think have they been healthy that they get

712
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: one more win. I mean, we're not asking for a

713
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: lot of here.

714
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: I think schedule might be as big as injuries when

715
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: you look at it. I mean, it is the difference

716
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: in the schedule from the first half to the second half.

717
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be overwhelming. I don't know

718
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: if metrically it's going to play out that way. But

719
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: like you know, who's the last non playoff team they

720
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: faced Atlanta? Probably Kansas City? Kansas City, So think about that.

721
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: You're gonna end the year with what six straight playoff teams? Yeah,

722
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: and at the start of the season you probably faced

723
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: what when you started eight and two, you probably faced

724
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: how many of those eight wins against teams are going

725
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: to draft on the top twelve? Can I ask this

726
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: in all of them? But what Denver? Yeah, and the

727
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: Chargers so I would point to schedule and then if

728
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: I could go one more piece of the pie, I

729
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: do think there's an element of the DNA of the

730
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: this is now another collapse with this kind of core.

731
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: And you know, when you look at the captains on

732
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: this football team, James, you look at the guys you've

733
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: put on the side of Lucasha Stadium, it's pretty much

734
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: been the same song and dance for the last I

735
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: would are you're probably handful of years. And so the

736
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: fact that it's a new head coach from the twenty

737
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: twenty one collapse and yet here you are again, that

738
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: to me is a little bit of just kind of

739
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: the roster, Dana, and a lot of that. Honestly, he

740
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: could point to Chris Baward's words from last January. I mean,

741
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: how many times in that press conference City talk about

742
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: we've got to find a way to win those end

743
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: of the season games some way, somehow.

744
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: And I get it.

745
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: You're in a dire quarterback situation. We have seen teams

746
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: this year win going deep on the quarterback depth chart.

747
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: It's not the prettiest looking thing, but they're finding a way.

748
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: Minnesota, certainly, dude, And again that's over Detroit teams still

749
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: playing for a playoff.

750
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Berth, you saw Miami on Sunday do it against the

751
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay team that was still playing for something. You know,

752
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: you we have seen some teams do that. Not easy

753
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: by any means. I don't act like it is. But

754
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: so yeah, if I just slice the pie, that's probably

755
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: where I would go. I think, you know, again, if

756
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: you want to get technical, the moment Daniel Jones tour

757
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: is aielles. This team was already out of the playoffs.

758
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: So I can't just sit here and say, well, you know,

759
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: if Jones doesn't tear as Achilles, you're gonna make it.

760
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that black and white boy partly

761
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: wants to think it is. But you make a compelling argument.

762
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: But again, it's that enough to sit here and say, well, boom,

763
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: everybody's back. I don't think it is. But because this

764
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: is the nine years versus the one year.

765
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also again I am on record saying this,

766
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: like my record actually matters. But if you do get

767
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: rid of Chris Ballard, just go ahead and get rid

768
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: of everybody at that point, in my opinion, because trying

769
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: to thread the needle of still thinking you're in some

770
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: sort of window with this aging roster is naive to me.

771
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: So if you do run it back, which I don't

772
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: totally agree with, I get it from the standpoint of, well,

773
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: let's just see what we have again, which again not

774
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: the greatest argument in the world. But if you get

775
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: rid of Ballad, I don't want to hear about well,

776
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: let's just tweak this one thing or this other thing

777
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: and we'll be right back to it. Like he isn't

778
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: going out there playing those players aren't good enough from

779
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: your point earlier, Kevin, so I think you're looking at

780
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 2: a very hard reset if you get rid of Ballard,

781
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: which will probably be welcome by this fan base.

782
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: I still can't believe you went with you'd rather be

783
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: in the rain than the cold.

784
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: It might be a cultural difference, is it. I don't know, man,

785
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: I don't do cold, brother, like I think anybody in

786
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: my family will probab chose the same thing I just chose.

787
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: I'm dead Seriously, he sixty degrees in the rain, I'll

788
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: put on a rain cold I'll be fine.

789
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the ring cut like you can manage the cold.

790
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: I think you can manage the cold better than you

791
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: can manage being wet, how.

792
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: Cold were talking? That's my thing. If it's under like

793
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 2: thirty degrees, I'm not doing it. But also I feel

794
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: like I'm not a true fan. I've told you this,

795
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: like I don't want to sit up here like I'm

796
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: living and dying with Notre Dame basketball like you are,

797
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: or Notre Dame football.

798
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: Big one to night, nine o'clock tonight at Stanford.

799
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: Come on now, I to get back on the trap. Yeah,

800
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: I mean you.

801
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: You asked to say.

802
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: You literally told me you wish it hurt more that

803
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: Illinois lost to Indiana. I'm gonna get back. I don't.

804
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't have it in me.

805
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: By the way, my heart skipped a beat when I

806
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: saw the Marcus Freeman tweet yesterday. I thought, I don't

807
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: know what I thought. For a second, it was maybe

808
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm just living in this world right now where the

809
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: Colts and the Pacers can't win a game.

810
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: I thought myself, Holy, he's going I gotta tell my

811
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: boy to lay off the Beijing.

812
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: Though.

813
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: I love Marcus Freeman, he's a great coach, but you

814
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: were hanging on his hairline the other day. Nobody hating

815
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: on his hairline. It doesn't exist like I got a

816
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: couple of you know what they call trouble spots up here.

817
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: I'm not finna go get the black paint out. I mean,

818
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: come on, man, if they do, I need to send

819
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: him the link to we Girl Hair and yeah, you

820
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: probably do. Or you need to send him a link

821
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: to my barbera. We'll take care of him. Give him

822
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: the O the old baldy, which is fine. He's very

823
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: handsome man. He'll survive. But boy, seeing the amount of

824
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: paint on his head is disgusted. You know what I mean.

825
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it right now, is it? Carl Boozer

826
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: is carls Boozer. He's gonna if you rub up against him,

827
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: you end up with a black paint on your shirt,

828
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: kind of like Jaylen Brown has been doing some players

829
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: this season in the NBA. But one though on this,

830
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: Kevin Man, you were all over them. I'm very all

831
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: over this because I hate it so much. They will

832
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: not win a national championship until he takes the bigges

833
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: thing out of his head. There you have it. That's

834
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: the biggest issue in Notre Dame. Not none of this,

835
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: not being in a conference and.

836
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Already Smith, I'm the third down last year.

837
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 2: None of that. Not the committee. The committee isn't deciding

838
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: his haircut or his hair paint for that matter. Love you,

839
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman.

840
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: I know Marcus Freeman goes to a lot of like

841
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: Notre Dame basketball games, and coming up in February, you

842
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: know Duke is gonna be in South Bend.

843
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: Incredible opportunity for we grow hairy Indy to.

844
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: Kind of advertise out there with Carlos Boozer in attendance

845
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: for his sons. Marcus Freeman will be sitting courtside there.

846
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: You go, look a back Boozer doing, you know, a

847
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: free throw contest on one end, Freeman on the other end,

848
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: and have a nice little Darren Andrews in mid court.

849
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: They're ready to hand out some products.

850
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: Coming up eight o'clock hour.

851
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: Much more. Who do we think we'll start for the

852
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: colts coming up week eighteen? Wo did Changsiken leave the

853
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: door open for round four?

854
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: Door of the Philip Rivers? You caught on You caught

855
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: onto that? Why that was the rejoinder? There there we go.

856
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: Re Ara, We'll hit that Scott doctor man out in Pasadena.

857
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: We'll talk Indiana boots on the ground out there. Hoosiers

858
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: and Crimson Todd. We are just two days away from

859
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: the Arose Bowl touchdown favorite. How could mother nature impact

860
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: this game? Hit on all of it, coming up eight

861
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: o'clock hour on this Tuesday morning. Caleb Z super very

862
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: good on your end. It's a Tuesday morning, a little

863
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: light dusting, woke up to for the morning commute. Nothing

864
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: too bad on that front, A lot to get to.

865
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: Did change Syke and leave the door open for Philip

866
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: Rivers Round four coming up Sunday in Houston. We'll hit

867
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: on that here in a few James. At eight point thirty,

868
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: we'll talk with your colleague from the Athletics, Scott Doctrman.

869
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: He's out in Pasadena.

870
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: The man is absolutely insane to be waking up with

871
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: us at five point thirty local time, but he will

872
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: to talk some Hoosiers and Crimson Tide. I enjoyed this

873
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: piece over on the Athletic that I think typically, you know,

874
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: you guys are kind of do this around whatever playoff time,

875
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: and you know when you have a little bit of

876
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: a long wait. Of the old Coaches Confidential series, let's

877
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: talk to coaches that have faced the Indiana's, the Alabama's,

878
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: the Ohio states, Miami's et cetera, et cetera, and get

879
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more insight into this. And this quote

880
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: really stood out to me. Is from a Big Ten

881
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: assistant here talking about the team that you would least

882
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: like to play of all the playoff teams, and he

883
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: said Indiana, And the quote was this, Their defense is

884
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: a problem. Their scheme makes you work a lot harder.

885
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: They're very multiple, They're so good at fire zone, simulated

886
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: pressures and do a good job of fitting the run.

887
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator Brian Haynes says, such a great job of

888
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: breaking his own tendencies.

889
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: Easy for me to say tendencies.

890
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: He does some stuff that is NFL complicated, and Fernando

891
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Mendoza's post snap decision making is exceptional. I think that

892
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: first chunk the Indiana defense playing at a Sunday level,

893
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: I think is just it doesn't get talked talked about enough.

894
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: No, because Fernanda Mendoza grabs all the headlines and our

895
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: eyes always skirt towards the offense and the big plays.

896
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: But I mean, needless to say, they won the Big

897
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: Ten championship thirteen to ten, and you can't do that,

898
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: obviously if you don't have an elite defense going up

899
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: against one of the premier offenses in the country in

900
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: that game.

901
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: And that's where I look at, you know, Thursday, and

902
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: I just the fact that Alabama cannot run the football.

903
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: I just don't see a formula in how they win.

904
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Alabama was gifted getting back into that Oklahoma game,

905
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: and I think Oklahoma's flawed, and I think Alabama's flawed.

906
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: I guess simply, I don't think Indiana's that flawed.

907
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 2: Do you think it matters at all that Alabama's played

908
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: a game already?

909
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how much about the conversation, Yeah, and

910
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: we said it was it was a factor, I think

911
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: a little bit last year. I think the bracket played

912
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: into a little bit of it last year as well.

913
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: I don't think the brackets is jarring from you know

914
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: what last year the buys were. It was a boising

915
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: Arizona state. You know, we don't have that from the

916
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: three and the four seam this year. So I don't

917
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: think that's necessarily going to be the case. I mean,

918
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of like, is the Stephen

919
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: Daily injury need to be talked about a little bit more.

920
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he was probably yours defensive lineman. But again,

921
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: I think that's the country group that has a great depth,

922
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: and I think, you know that staff probably deserves a

923
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: little benefit of the doubt. And I know we're talking

924
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: a little, you know, probably a lot about it, but

925
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: I think the rain game would favor Indiana. Indiana can

926
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: run it. Alabama can't. I mean, just to put it simple, no,

927
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: they literally can't. This negative rushing yards in the SEC

928
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: championship game. It's really hard to do.

929
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: I mean, me and you can do that. And I

930
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: don't say that often about football. I will say this

931
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: when we get talking to Scott Doctrman here in about

932
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, I'm very curious to know. I believe he

933
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: had covered Iowa for quite some time, but just his perspective.

934
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: I always like to get those who aren't in it,

935
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: living it every day like us, how do they view

936
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: it from the outside looking at When did they kind

937
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: of latch on and say, wait a second, this isn't

938
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: a cute story anymore. This is a real thing. Because

939
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: now the expectation, rightfully so, is that IU is going

940
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: to be in this conversation as far as national championship

941
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: Big ten championships for years to come. Coaching Neetti isn't

942
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: going anywhere, and I mean they paid a boatload of

943
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: money to make sure his coordinators don't go anywhere either,

944
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: So that to me is an interesting layer to all

945
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: of this, like, yes, you want the success for this season,

946
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: and boy, if you ever had a chance to win

947
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: the national championship. It feels like it's this year. But

948
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: this isn't as finite as some run they made a

949
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: few years ago, for example with Michael Penis Junior, where

950
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: personally I thought, Okay, this might be like the one

951
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: off year.

952
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: A couple texts here from the text line they can't

953
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: make a decision on Chris Ballard because of an eight

954
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: game stretch this year and overlook the other eight and

955
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: a half years. Kind of on the flip side of that,

956
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: James he goes regarding Ballad, You keep asking if it's

957
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: one year or nine. Could it be that the reason

958
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: Ballad changes his ways this year because Carlyer, say allowed

959
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: him to do it. Possibly Jim and handcuffed Chris Ballard

960
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: for the first eight years. I think there's any merit

961
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: to that.

962
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 2: That's an interesting concept. I don't know I can say

963
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: that she doesn't seem to be as volatile as her father.

964
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: I think that's a fair term to use as far

965
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: as you know how he would make decisions, and we

966
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: saw a few of them that back far tremendously here

967
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: over the last few years. But I also think that

968
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: this season presented some unique opportunities that other seasons just

969
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: had not. And really it started with the quarterback. You

970
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: pun on Anthony Richardson, which was a decision. I'm sure

971
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: he discussed he being Chris Ballad. You discuss potentially moving

972
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: on from him or bringing in somebody else with Jim irsay,

973
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: when he was still living, and when you hit on

974
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, I think that kind of changed your trajectory

975
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: a bit and perhaps your calculus and making those decisions

976
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: that then involved Carlierry Shi Gordon. You know it's going

977
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: to be rather I think unprecedented.

978
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: Is if we get on Sunday or Monday whenever, and

979
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: it's the same letter and everybody's back.

980
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: The fact that you have.

981
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: Kind of two parts to the Ballad resume. One part is,

982
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: of course the numbers, James, that you know off the

983
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: top of your head, what is it, zero division titles,

984
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: one playoff win, two playoff appearances. There you go, brother,

985
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: So you have that part of the bottom line business

986
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: part of the resume, win losses, division titles, playoffs, et cetera,

987
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: et cetera, And then you also have the other part of.

988
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: It where.

989
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: Really the one time outside of Quentin Nelson, that you

990
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: had the top five pick and had to make a

991
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: franchise altering decision. I think at this point it's fair

992
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: to call Anthony Richardson a bust. Well, obviously see if

993
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: things change, but at this point the draft pick has

994
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: been a bust. That's pretty freaking wild to survive both.

995
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: Of those things.

996
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: Very good point, Like your resume obviously speaks for itself.

997
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: The bottom line business again, zero vision titles, one playoff, win,

998
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: two playoff appeances. But then you also throw in the

999
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: other aspect, when you've had the chance to restart the clock,

1000
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: when you've had the chance to make the franchise altering pick.

1001
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: It's a pick that will probably go down as one

1002
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: of the bigger busts we've seen if indeed it's over

1003
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: for Richardson here in Indy, which I think there's a

1004
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: lot of signs of point of that being the case.

1005
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I think that him and Stichen aren't

1006
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: necessarily the same mold. Also think that from the Richardson

1007
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: perspective in camp, you probably just want to fresh start

1008
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: at this point because we can talk about it at nauseum,

1009
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: but it's just stale now. I think with that whole

1010
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: idea that he's going to work out here because even

1011
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: if he gets another opportunity, let's say next year, how

1012
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 2: big or how real is that opportunity when you're going

1013
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: to bring back Daniel Jones, most likely when Ry Leonard

1014
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 2: is still here, when the conversation about the future is

1015
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: probably about Riley right now versus being more about Anthony Richardson.

1016
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that is something I hadn't really

1017
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: thought about because but yeah, like that is those are

1018
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: two huge misses.

1019
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: And again different, I mean, you can talk about it

1020
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: in a different light. You know, you can obviously have

1021
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: whatever high pay. You know. San Francisco is the best

1022
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: example of it. They royally missed on trailing Chants.

1023
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: And then they hit the freaking jackpot with and.

1024
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: They have results like none other. Yeah, you know, so

1025
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: you could do both.

1026
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: Sides of it. But even then when they missed on

1027
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: Trey Lance, they had already built up a track record

1028
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: of here's what we've done, here's why we deserve another

1029
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: chance to do this again. I mean comparing the John

1030
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 2: Lynch resume is you know, yeah, it just feels like

1031
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: a you know a little bit of a weight class difference.

1032
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, it's comparing you know, my high school resume

1033
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: to the Valvictorian. All right, let's get to the Shane

1034
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: Sacond audio. This is from yesterday.

1035
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: I was top ten in my class. WHOA really? I

1036
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: told you why I was good?

1037
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: That is where I asked if there's twenty seven people

1038
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: around now, I'm gonna tell you this is.

1039
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: When I remind you that you could retake every test

1040
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: I ever took in high school, so the grades were

1041
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: always good in my Well, that is quite the anybody

1042
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: that didn't graduate from Romanville High School, Illinois, you are

1043
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: probably a really big disappointment, just honest, all right? Calling

1044
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: people out.

1045
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: Who will start for the Colts in week eighteen? I

1046
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: thought the Shane Steike can't answer yesterday. I don't know

1047
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: if he was just trying to scratch Philip Rivers back here,

1048
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: but I don't know. This sounded like the door was

1049
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: open to me.

1050
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 7: Obviously, you know, bringing Philip in here to come here

1051
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 7: and play is what he wanted to do, and he's

1052
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 7: been playing, and obviously there's one left and so those

1053
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 7: are conversations that we're having with him to see how

1054
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 7: that goes. And that's pretty much it. Getting a feel

1055
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 7: for him, and obviously obviously Riley have an opportunity to

1056
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 7: play as well. So those are just ongoing conversations that

1057
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 7: we're having right now.

1058
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: That is just a wild piece of audio. It's awful.

1059
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be dramatic here sports radio guy,

1060
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 3: but like, is he really gonna do this?

1061
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: My zoom was muted, but on the inside I was like,

1062
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: what in the world, Like did I hear that correctly?

1063
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: It was one of those where I wish I could

1064
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: just pause time and rewind to listen to it again

1065
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: and be like, boy, that sounded like it almost sounded

1066
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: like it was Philip Rivers decision.

1067
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: Do you think it's actually a hard decision for I

1068
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: was taken because after hearing that, I was like, wait

1069
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: a second, are you like midnight oil? Like, boy, what

1070
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 2: do I do? Like, what do you mean? What do

1071
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: you do?

1072
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: It sounds a little you know, you know, not to

1073
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: use the Joe Buck term. But it sounds a little

1074
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: bit like there's some Hey, I'm super close with this dude,

1075
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: and that's a play here. I'm mean, I hate to

1076
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: say that, but does it not sound like that?

1077
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and trust me, if they go this route, get

1078
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: your hibachi's ready. I'm cooking, because there's no way, no

1079
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 2: way this could be justified at the point.

1080
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: If you want to say the hole, we brought him

1081
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: here to help us get into the playoffs or try

1082
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: to make this playoff push, fine, like, okay, if that's

1083
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: what you want to go with, Okay, Well, the losing

1084
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: streaks six weeks playoff elimination has occurred, and it didn't

1085
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: occur eighteen hours before kickoff like it did over the weekend.

1086
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: Get answers on your youth. And I said it to

1087
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: open up the show. And I'll say it again in

1088
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: all seriousness. If you want to play out the best

1089
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: case scenario for the Stiching Ballard regime for next season,

1090
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: let's say it. Daniel Jones is able to be healthy

1091
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: and effective for I don't know what's a realistic goal,

1092
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: twelve games, all right, Daniel Jones is healthy for twelve games.

1093
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: Let's say Daniel Jones goes eight and four in those

1094
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: twelve games, that means you got five other games likely

1095
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: to start the season where you're gonna need another quarterback.

1096
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: In those five games. You can't be starting one and four.

1097
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 1: You start one and four. The way to the world's

1098
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones now, and the chances of you know,

1099
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: making a run and trying to flip this script again,

1100
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: and we're probably talking about another eight or nine win

1101
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: Colts football team and we're doing the same damn song

1102
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: and dance we've done every I'm going to post that

1103
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: damn poll I posted you stay for a third straight year.

1104
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: So to me a chance to get Rada Leonard out

1105
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: there get his feet wet against the number one defense

1106
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL, I find that more beneficial than watching

1107
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,479
Speaker 1: Rocky four play out. Hell, I'd be worred about phlip

1108
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 1: Rivers general health. He's out there against Will Anderson Junior

1109
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: and Daniel Hunter.

1110
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: Well, to be clear, I'm worried about any quarterbacks health

1111
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 2: facing the defence.

1112
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just want to say, for the record,

1113
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: Rocky four is the good one.

1114
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: By the way, is that the good one?

1115
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: Drago?

1116
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: That's okay, But Rocky five just going forward, Kevin, I

1117
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: think that would be the reference.

1118
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: I know there was the Rocky five until this morning.

1119
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: Let me reorganize my thoughts here. Well, hell, it might

1120
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: be Rocky five. The philip Rivers are starting week one

1121
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: next year.

1122
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: Oh boy, stop this, he did say. Did you hear

1123
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: that right there? Do you hear that audio? You want

1124
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: me to play it again? Well, play the audio philip

1125
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: Rivers after the game Sunday. This is it. I'm going

1126
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: back to the sideline. People say that's where I belong,

1127
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: and he has said that before. He has said that before.

1128
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: I find it so funny that what they and I

1129
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: want to say this calendar year, he's signed a one

1130
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: day contract to retire as a charger, like in July. Yeah,

1131
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: and then came out of retirement with the Colts, and

1132
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: they now say he's going back into retirement and I'm

1133
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: going not so fast, my friend, well Lee corso Actionally,

1134
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: they're like, you're not fool of me anymore.

1135
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: Like I listened to Stichen's answer and I just got

1136
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: more confused.

1137
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, this is.

1138
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: He like going out of his way to try and

1139
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: not like to me, there's no public shame at all.

1140
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: And saying, Phillip unfreaking believable job coming off the couch.

1141
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: Unbelievable job we have d Craig in the YouTube chat,

1142
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: y'all are crazy. Philip Rivers was chilling with his fam.

1143
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 2: He wants to get out there and sling it. You

1144
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: don't beg a guy out of five years retired to

1145
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: come help you out, then not let him play if

1146
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: he wants to, Oh, yes you do. This isn't some

1147
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: you know, uh participations is like.

1148
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: Like he he was a lifelong charger, Like this is

1149
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: not Peyton Manning either, Like I wouldn't care if.

1150
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: It was the time.

1151
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: I want to make this clear, Like I love Philip Rivers.

1152
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: I think the story is incredible.

1153
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: I think he's a Hall of Famer.

1154
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: I think it's inspirational, it's cool as hell. Blah blah blah.

1155
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't need to see him play another game of

1156
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: football for the Colts. I don't. And if that sounds

1157
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: like me taking a shot at Philip Rivers, so be it.

1158
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: I mean I would argue too. It's not like, if

1159
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: you really want to get technical about this, it's not

1160
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: like Sunday was him as sending as a player since

1161
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: his return his own words, James, what do you say

1162
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: on Sunday? That was the worst game I've had? Yeah,

1163
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: So it's not like the arrow is all of a

1164
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: sudden pointing up. He just needed a few weeks to

1165
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: get warm.

1166
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: If he had thrown for three hundred, I might be like,

1167
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: oh okay, I want to see it again. So I

1168
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: just yeah, I don't I do passing yards did even

1169
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 2: have Sunday? Was it like? Was it like one fifty

1170
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: or something like that? Wouldn't that many?

1171
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: Again, it's a dinosaur offense right now with him the

1172
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: second and the third fewest yardage games of the Stikeen era.

1173
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: So what's the psychon era fifty games into it?

1174
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's exactly a twenty five and twenty five with

1175
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: Rivers a quarterback. You had the second and the third feust.

1176
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 1: And this is with a team that's had Anthony richardson

1177
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: quarterback a lot of games with Shane Stiking.

1178
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't I think I'm reading too much

1179
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: into the audio.

1180
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: But I heard that yesterday and I thought to myself, damn,

1181
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: that door is open.

1182
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: Well call you boy, I'll come kick it. Shit is

1183
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: that Texans gamesmanshipped there could be mean boy? But what's

1184
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: the reason.

1185
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: Like, seriously, I I at the start of that clip,

1186
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: will play that again. I'll just say we should just

1187
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: start that. It sounds like, you know, like he came

1188
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,479
Speaker 1: here and he wanted to play, or like something along

1189
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: those lines.

1190
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 7: Play this again, obviously, you know, bringing Philip in here

1191
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 7: to come here and play is what he wanted to do,

1192
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 7: and he's been playing and.

1193
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: Is what he wanted to do.

1194
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: There's one left, sane Stikeen's head coach, Like you're the

1195
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: head coach, the forty four year old off the couch.

1196
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: It's not dictating terms here.

1197
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: You decide who plays and who doesn't, and you're officially

1198
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: limited from the playoffs. Let's op for the six round

1199
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: pick and see if you've got a shot in the

1200
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: dark there.

1201
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: I just it's funny.

1202
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: Some people don't think it's controversial that Riley Leonard it

1203
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: should start, and some people don't think it's controversial that

1204
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers should start. But it just seems pretty clear

1205
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 3: to me, Like, I don't know what you gain from

1206
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: Philip playing Sunday.

1207
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: I thought this was wild. Nathan Brown from the Star

1208
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: had this, James, I don't know if you saw this,

1209
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: and I think this is a little bit of you know,

1210
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: when we talk about the Rivers led offense, it limits

1211
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: you obviously from a vertical passing game standpoint, but I

1212
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,959
Speaker 1: would argue it's really limited you in the run game.

1213
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely.

1214
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's last run of over fifteen yards was the

1215
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: Kansas City game. I mean, think about it. Boy, We're

1216
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: talking zero run plays of over fifteen yards in the

1217
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: last five games. And Taylor has been healthy. He's getting

1218
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: twenty carries a game, no sixteen.

1219
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 2: Yard or no any carries for sixty yards.

1220
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: Eighteen yards. I mean that's every game right now. It's

1221
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: twenty one carries for seventy two yards. And you know, honestly,

1222
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: some of that goes back into a little bit of

1223
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: the Daniel Jones element too. Of Like, I think it's

1224
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: a reminder to me of if you have a quarterback

1225
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: with just a little bit of a lag threat. Again,

1226
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to be Lamar Jackson, but it

1227
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: can do so much in the numbers games, just helping you,

1228
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden make a player too, not only

1229
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: for yourself, but also certainly for that running back. I

1230
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: think the official tailor stat was if you look at

1231
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: the season. He had twenty one run plays of over

1232
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: fifteen yards through the Kansas City game. I think it

1233
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: was eleven games, twenty one times over fifteen yards and

1234
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: he's at zero the last five. It's a dinosaur offense.

1235
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, that is pretty compelling, mayor from

1236
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: my colleague Nathan Brown.

1237
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, although that was very good for Nathan all right,

1238
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: coming up in ten, Scott doctor.

1239
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: Many his boots on the ground.

1240
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: I swear James Boyd has said that he's gonna wake

1241
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: up at five. I assume he's awake five eighteen am

1242
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: local time out in Pasadena to chat with the fan

1243
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: morning show in Indianapolis, Indiana.

1244
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: For the love of the game.

1245
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: For the love of.

1246
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: He's got that dog, and I won't you have a doubt,

1247
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: my boy, he's Philip Rivers. Love the game. He deserves

1248
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: a start. He deserves a start.

1249
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: Coming up on Sunday, will chat with Scott here in

1250
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: a few let's hit a morning check.

1251
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: Now, you gotta go back to December eighth.

1252
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: That is the last time we have seen the Pacers

1253
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: or the Colts win a game. The Pacers losing streak

1254
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: is now nine. They got boat raced in the first

1255
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: three quarters last night by the Houston Rockets. Rick Carlisle

1256
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: took Jay Heff out of the game ninety seconds into

1257
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 1: it because Steven Adams was being an absolute grizzy bear

1258
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: on the glass. Tony Bradley went and there got into

1259
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: foul trouble, and at that point I was like, Okay,

1260
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: I think I've seen enough for tonight. Kevin Durant had

1261
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: thirty James cam Jones, the second round pick out of Marquette,

1262
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: did get in the game in the second quarter. Uh,

1263
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: So we have seen him start to be a little

1264
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: bit more active and being available and playing for this team.

1265
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: And I did think it all serious, nith. I thought

1266
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Smith looked pretty good last night his second game back.

1267
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about the only bright spot for this team,

1268
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: which I believe still currently has the worst record in

1269
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: the NBA. So number one pick incoming.

1270
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: Rick carl out tomorrow at nine to thirty. I believe

1271
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: in in Penncil. There obviously a late travel back from Houston.

1272
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: They'll have their Mattinee tomorrow, their New Year's Eve Mattinee.

1273
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't have my contacts in I can't read the board.

1274
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: What is that is that? Three o'clock tomorrow. Actually, I

1275
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: don't even see the Pacers up there. Three o'clock or

1276
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: three thirty, I believe tomorrow for the Pacers as they

1277
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: take on the Orlando Magic.

1278
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: And is it Wimby on Friday? Is this our winby game?

1279
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 6: Oh?

1280
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: Is that when I make my reappearance at Gambridge Foothouse

1281
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: because I've been in the I haven't been there in

1282
01:01:59,440 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: a while.

1283
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: Is is that the hardest visiting ticket to get now

1284
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: for the Pacers? Is that above Steph and Lebron?

1285
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: I still don't think so. I still think Steph is

1286
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: probably the hardest ticket.

1287
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: I was watching Spurs Calves last night and they threw

1288
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 3: a lob on the fast break off the backboard.

1289
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: To Wemby and I was like, what do you even do?

1290
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: And he wasn't even like open. They know he was covered.

1291
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: I was in traffic and he just threw it up.

1292
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. That is three o'clock tomorrow with the Orlando Magic

1293
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: and and yes, the Victor Webbin Yama and company coming up.

1294
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: That is Friday.

1295
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Speaker 1: Here, I'm double checking to make sure the Spurs aren't

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Speaker 1: aren't on any sort of back to back here. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't look like it, So it's good news here. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they have a back to back I guess on the

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Speaker 1: second night of that. So something to keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on here for Friday. All right, Purdue all over Kent

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01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: State last night in West Lafaiette one hundred and one

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Speaker 1: to sixty. Shout out to Jack Benter, the Brownstown Central product.

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01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: The man has now made ten straight threes. That is

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01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: a Purdue school record. You look at the all time

1305
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: scoring listen to the IHSAA. He falls right behind Eric

1306
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: Hunter Trayvon Blewett eleventh all time. Jack Bencher the flamethrower.

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01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: Big time for Purdue last night, and again defensively pretty good.

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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: And ken State averaged ninety four game and they held

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Speaker 1: them to sixty. So Purdue now restart Big Ten play

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Speaker 1: coming up on Saturday. They are at the Cole Center

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Speaker 1: against Wisconsin. Speaking of road games, Butler tonight is at Creighton.

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Speaker 1: That's nine o'clock on FS one. A slight underdog. This

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01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: is not your normal Creighton. They are just eight and

1314
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: five on the year. They do have some you know,

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Speaker 1: impressive double digit wins, but still not I think how

1316
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: we viewed Crayton as a consistent top twenty five team

1317
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: here as of late and what a big week for Butler.

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Speaker 1: Over the next seven days, I'll have three games that

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01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: fall into that quad one category if you look at

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Speaker 1: it right now. Butler is a tournament team, so very

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Speaker 1: important for that modern company to get. I would argue

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01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: two of these three, they'll be at home against Villanova Saturday.

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01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: They got Rick Patino's red storm coming in here a

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Speaker 1: week from tonight.

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Speaker 4: And shout out to Matthew Great. It's great to see

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Speaker 4: him back on the sideline last night. I know he

1327
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 4: caught up with John last week.

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01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: Obviously had the awful heart issue back just before the

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Speaker 1: season started, and his Sycamores delivered. They got to win

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Speaker 1: in overtime over.

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Speaker 4: Belmont's Monday Night football last night, James Boyd. For those

1332
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Speaker 4: that went to bed early they missed, I would say

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Speaker 4: one of the better Monday Night games of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it started off red hot for the Falcons. The

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01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: Rams made a crazy comeback and then the Falcons hang

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01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: on with a fifty one yard field goal to win it.

1337
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Speaker 2: Had they lost that game, they were saying on the

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Speaker 2: broadcast Kevint, that would have been their biggest blown lead

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01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: since twenty eight three in the Super Bowl against the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, they went there. They went there, and for

1341
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: a second there I thought the Falcons were falconing.

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: Jared Verse had one of the more impressive individual plays

1343
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Speaker 1: your seat you'll see every time I bring Hi.

1344
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: While people tell me we could have had him. I know,

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01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: I know, yeah he was what two picks after two

1346
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: lot two?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? I believe so so Jared Verse outstanding

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01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: for the Rams last night. We are done with Monday

1349
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Speaker 1: night games. Reminder Saturday action here. We'll get Carolina and Tampa.

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01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: They said on the broadcast last night. Weirdly that that

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01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: game because Atlanta one is now not just a win

1352
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: and get in. I believe the Panthers could also get

1353
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: in if the Saints win on Sunday or something. Weird

1354
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: So NFC South is a little bit more complicated. We

1355
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: will get the game for the number one seed in

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Speaker 1: the NFC. That's forty nine Ers and Seahawks. That's coming

1357
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: up Saturday night. And again reminder, Game two seventy two

1358
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: is Ravens and Steelers. And I'll continue to say what

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Speaker 1: I said yesterday is the loser of that is that

1360
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: our big head coaching domino here in the twenty twenty

1361
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Speaker 1: five coaching cycle. I think that'll be something very interesting

1362
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: to watch. December thirtieth is the calendar. Happy forty first

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Speaker 1: to Lebron James, Happy fiftieth to Eldrick Woods.

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Speaker 2: And shout out to the great Greg Raystraw.

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Speaker 1: Does that make her feel old Tigers fifty?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Really, because I feel like Tiger has lived quite a

1368
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: few different lives since I've become Who's a sentient person

1369
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: who's got more lives?

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Speaker 1: Tiger off the field or Chris ballad on it?

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I'll say, I don't know if Tiger had

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Speaker 2: a couple of those labs beat out of him. Yeah,

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: that's an understatement there.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, fifty Tigers.

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Speaker 2: For the Senior Tour or something, right, isn't that right?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: I saw that headline. Hell no, no chance.

1378
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 2: Man's just got to get held.

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Speaker 1: To James's point, that's a brittle body right there. Can

1380
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: you imagine he's trying to put Tiger in front of

1381
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: that Texans defense on Sunday afternoon?

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01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: See what happens there?

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01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side, Scott Doctorman live from Pasadena.

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Speaker 1: He joins us next, All right, Thursday, four o'clock. It

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Speaker 1: is the Rose Bowl, The Indiana Hoosiers, a touchdown favorite

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01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: over the Alabama Crimson Tide, and heinda got to Pasadena

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Speaker 1: late last night, saying, our next guest Scott Doctorman from

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Speaker 1: the Athletic He is currently boots on the ground and

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01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: he is a far better human being than I. That's

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01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: probably how simple I will put it. Was chatting with

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Speaker 1: James Boyd yesterday and said, you know, I think it'd

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01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: be great if we got somebody college football specific one

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Speaker 1: to talk about indian and Alabama coming up. On Thursday.

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Speaker 1: We had Scott on I think just after maybe the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship somewhere around then, and he was great.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't realize James that he was literally in California.

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Speaker 1: It's five thirty two in the morning out there.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Scott can vouch for this. I did test him

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01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: and I told him, hey, you don't need to do

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01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: this if you're out west, and he I can't believe

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01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: you asked it. No, I act the question I'll put

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01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 2: out that said, if you're out west, then I'll find

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: somebody else. I didn't know where he was going to

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01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: be because he's a national colleg football writer.

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Speaker 1: Unfreaking believable. The Payloss Slickers hotline. We had to right now, Scott,

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01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: what are you doing awake right now?

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01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me. As you could tell, I enjoyed

1410
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 8: LA a little bit too late last night and now

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01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 8: here I am this morning, and I woke up about

1412
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 8: an hour ago going, you know what, that's probably one

1413
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 8: of the best idea in the world. But I'll take it.

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Speaker 6: But it's all good. You know, it's a pretty exciting

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01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 6: environment right now.

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01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 8: I mean, when you start to talk about the Rose Bowl,

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 8: it means something to Midwesterners. And I've seen some of

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01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 8: the videos so far of a lot of Indiana fans

1419
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 8: heading out and I think I saw somebody's Instagram where

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 8: they were offering fifteen hundred dollars for somebody to get

1421
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 8: off their flight because they're just jam packed with ousiers

1422
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 8: coming at you this way. And it just shows you

1423
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Speaker 8: what the Rose Bowl still means, even in this day

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01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:41,879
Speaker 8: of change in college football.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, well, for fifteen hundred, I'm getting off

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Speaker 2: that flight.

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Speaker 1: Talk of advil for Scott here at the media, Scott,

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01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: I thought the piece was really good about how did

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Speaker 1: Indiana football get so good so fast? Inside Kurt Signette's

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01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: turn around We've talked a lot about it obviously in

1431
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: our little bubble, But for you, what made you sit

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01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: out the most in researching that piece.

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Speaker 8: I think it was talking to some kind of assistance

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 8: around the Big Ten and you know, because there's some

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01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 8: things that you want to know that maybe I'm not

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 8: necessarily either privy to or well versed enough in, you know,

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Speaker 8: whether it's their schematics or how they put the scheme together.

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Speaker 8: And really from what the assistant said is yeah, I mean,

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01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 8: they do a nice job with the scheme, but it's

1440
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 8: really about the coaching and the fundamentals. And I always

1441
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 8: think that's some of the most difficult things to do

1442
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 8: in this day and age of college football where it's

1443
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 8: somewhat transient and use the portal a lot. And I

1444
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 8: think it was kind of what it came down to

1445
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 8: me was this perfect confluence of having the right coach

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01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 8: bring the right foundation with him, and then supplementing the

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01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 8: players that he had with quality players out of the

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Speaker 8: portal who fit it, rather than just hey, oh wow,

1449
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 8: this guy's a bounce back four star guy from some

1450
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 8: SEC school and taking a flyer there. And he was

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01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 8: actually more direct and how he wanted to bring those

1452
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 8: guys in, but once they came on campus, the way

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01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 8: that they were able to develop them and coach them

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01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 8: and turn turn them into from decent players to very

1455
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 8: very good or elite players like a Fernando Mendoza who

1456
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 8: was really nice player at Cal last year, but then

1457
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 8: took that team and that and or that player and

1458
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 8: ended up becoming the Heisman Trophy winner because of the

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01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 8: way they could coach and the way they put the

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Speaker 8: team together. I think that was really what stands out

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Speaker 8: to be about Indiana because when you look at like

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Speaker 8: this matchup, specifically two years ago, I'd have thought anybody

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01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 8: was crazy if they would have said, hey, that Indiana

1464
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,520
Speaker 8: even would be in the Rose Bowl, but be play Alabama,

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01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 8: be seven point favorite, and really, when you look at

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 8: the matchup, if Indiana plays well, Indiana wins this and

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01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 8: probably by more than double in an double figure range,

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01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 8: because they are clearly the better team. And it just

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 8: it shows you just how you know, kind of the

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01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 8: college football landscape has changed so much, and how Indiana

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01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 8: was able to capitalize on that with a truly great

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Speaker 8: coach and Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 2: Again, we have Scott Doctrorman from the Athletic joining us

1474
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: here on the Paless Lookers hot Line despite being three

1475
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: hours behind on the West coast. So thanks for the time. Scott.

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: One of the quotest set out to me and your

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01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: story recently on IU and their rise, which has been

1478
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: movie like Who's your like? If you want to make

1479
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: a movie reference. One of the big ten assistants that

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01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: you gave anonymity two said, they're not trying to out

1481
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 2: scheme guys. They're trying to play unbelievably fundamentally well and

1482
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: harder and tougher than their opponents, and their scheme allows

1483
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: them to do that because it's not a bunch of

1484
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,759
Speaker 2: star wars out there. That pretty funny to me, because

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01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: if you know how exotic and crazy college offenses can look,

1486
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 2: but how much have you seen I you just be

1487
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: who they are, if that makes sense. It's kind of

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01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: a cliche, but to that point, yeah, there isn't a

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01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: whole lot of makeup. They just go out there and

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01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 2: kind of beat you down.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. I think that's a great point because when you

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01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 8: look at their road games this year that they had

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01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 8: to come back and win at Iowa, at Oregon, at

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01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 8: Penn State, that was about toughness and physicality as much

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01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 8: as it was scheming guys in the right spot to

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 8: make those plays. And you know, I would say specifically

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01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 8: Iowa and Oregon, I mean, two of the best offensive

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01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,480
Speaker 8: lines in the country and two of the tougher defensive

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01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 8: lines in the country, and they had to slug it

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Speaker 8: out with those teams just to put themselves in a

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01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 8: position to win. And then what they were able to

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01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 8: do was emphasize the skills and smarts that their players

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 8: had and put them in positions to make winning plays.

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01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 8: And I'll go to the Iowa game specifically, I mean

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01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 8: it was kind of there were kind of fortunate situation

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01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 8: that they had an opportunity to win the game. But

1507
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 8: when they did, Elijah Sarat made one of the best

1508
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 8: plays of the season in scoring what a forty nine

1509
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 8: yard touchdown pass because Iowa was coming at him with heat,

1510
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 8: i mean blitzing, and Sarat with his relationship with Fernando Mendoza,

1511
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 8: which was quick, but the way that they coached it,

1512
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 8: he kind of shaped his route a little bit. He

1513
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 8: didn't get quite the depth on it, but he was

1514
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 8: able to get this explosiveness on it to where Iowa's

1515
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 8: cornerback couldn't break on him quickly enough, and Fernando Mendoza

1516
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 8: laid a great pass on that slant and next thing, No,

1517
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 8: he was able to race to the end zone because

1518
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 8: he reshaped his route and a lot of that is

1519
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 8: through his own skill set and abilities. And it was

1520
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 8: the way that they were able to pick up the

1521
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 8: blitz just.

1522
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 6: Enough and then.

1523
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 8: But it wasn't anything like magic or schematically impressive. It

1524
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 8: was just the way that they played within the scheme.

1525
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 8: And I would say the same thing just about the

1526
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 8: physicality is when you're playing some of those teams, you've

1527
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 8: got to meet that or you're going to get beat.

1528
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 8: And that's probably maybe the biggest surprise over the Signetti

1529
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 8: era is that they are both lines of scrimmage meet

1530
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 8: that physicality against anyone Ohio, State, Iowa, Oregon.

1531
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 2: You name it.

1532
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 8: They're able to do it. And for them to be

1533
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 8: able to do that, it maximizes their abilities and then

1534
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 8: it allows what I think is some of the best

1535
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 8: route spacing I've seen in college football with those receivers.

1536
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: Again, that's Scott Doctrorman live from Pasadena right now. He's

1537
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 1: gracious with his time here. Early early on this Tuesday morning,

1538
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: Indiana got to Pasadena last night and they will have

1539
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: a practice today coming up Thursday, four o'clock. It is

1540
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. Scott, Wildly, it looks like rain in

1541
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 1: the forecast for Thursday.

1542
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,879
Speaker 2: We had somewhere where we've only.

1543
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: Had one rain at the Rose Bolt period since nineteen

1544
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: fifty five. Do you think a rain game would favor

1545
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: more Indiana more Alabama?

1546
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 8: I think I think definitely Indiana because Alabama is so

1547
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 8: one dimensional. They can't run the ball, whether it's a

1548
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 8: Raiders shine, you know, they're one hundred and twenty fifth

1549
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 8: and yards per carry, and so if they're going to

1550
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 8: have sloppy footing, then I think that they're going to

1551
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 8: have to certainly, you know, go to the pass. And

1552
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 8: while it could work, you do have to counterbalance that.

1553
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 8: And whereas Indiana is balanced in every single aspect of

1554
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 8: its offense, so would I would expect Indiana to really

1555
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 8: take advantage of that in the rain, you know, and

1556
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 8: because to me, Indiana is clearly the better team in

1557
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 8: this unless they make a lot of mistakes, fumbles, turnovers,

1558
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 8: you know, get you know, do something dumb on defense.

1559
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 8: I mean, I think this is really set up nicely

1560
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 8: for them. And then with bad weather conditions. I think

1561
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 8: it could be. It could be a surprising score at

1562
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 8: the end. Let's just put it that way.

1563
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: One more on field question before we let you go, Scott,

1564
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 2: how much of a factor do you think the loss

1565
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 2: of Stephen Day will be for the Hoosiers knowing that

1566
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 2: he was one of the top defensive linemen in the

1567
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 2: country and got injured celebrating after they had advanced to

1568
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: this stage of the Koshawa Playoffs.

1569
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, what a what a terrible injury. And it wasn't

1570
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 8: like he was doing anything crazy. He was just kind

1571
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 8: of reaching up and flapping hands and just a terrible injury.

1572
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 8: And I think it does have an impact because he is,

1573
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 8: you know, one of the best guys when it comes

1574
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 8: to penetration and tackles for loss. But I think the

1575
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 8: way I've seen with with Bryant Heenes and what makes

1576
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 8: him such a good defensive coordinator is he plays with

1577
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 8: the players he has, so he may he'll probably scheme

1578
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 8: around him to where, okay, we need a little bit

1579
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 8: more quickness now off the edge in certain past situations,

1580
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 8: so then they may elevate a linebacker into that role

1581
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 8: because they do have some depth there. But I don't

1582
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 8: know that this is the round where it'll show up,

1583
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 8: because Alabama, you know, has allowed twenty nine facts already

1584
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 8: this year, and they're one hundredth in the country. So

1585
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 8: I think that it may. But it may show up

1586
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 8: in the next round if they're playing Oregon or or

1587
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 8: Texas Tech, but you know, specifically Oregon, and then definitely,

1588
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 8: you know, if they're playing Georgia Ohio State. But I

1589
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 8: it's just it's such a real shame because he was

1590
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 8: playing so well this year.

1591
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: Scott Document again from the athletic great piece of the

1592
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: Indiana football program and how it's been built with Kurt

1593
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: Signetti and coming up. It is Thursday, four o'clock in

1594
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: Indian and Alabama about a touchdown favorite here in the rows. Well,

1595
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: Scott can't think enough. Man, get some resk, get some fluids.

1596
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you all right, Thanks for having me.

1597
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. That's Scott Document right there on the payless liquor.

1598
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 2: Son, is it even up where he's at right now?

1599
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 2: No chance he's talking to us, No chance. Son doesn't

1600
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: even rise till like seven thirty.

1601
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: I feel like you're exactly if that maybe more like

1602
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: eight o'clock, right now in the States, so much more

1603
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: on that. Jolay Ericson from the Star going to join

1604
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: us coming up at nine o'clock, will update you on

1605
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: where we're at from a fan poll standpoint, and much

1606
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: more on this Tuesday morning, Kevin Bell and James Boyd,

1607
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: Caleb Zuber ninety three to five on a seven to

1608
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: five the Fan, Joli Erickson going to join us coming

1609
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: up at the top of the hour. He wrote a

1610
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: piece kind of both sides of it, why carliras a

1611
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 1: Gordon could bring everybody back and why she could not.

1612
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: So hit on that here coming up in a few James,

1613
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: I know, speaking of the athletic Jordan Rodrig. I'm saying

1614
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: that last name right, he has our rod Reig. She wrote,

1615
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, a huge feature on Carliros Gordon.

1616
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: She was in the building.

1617
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think a couple of weeks ago at

1618
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 1: this point reporting for this feature. I haven't had a

1619
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: chance to read it yet. You were speaking to me

1620
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 1: a little bit during the break. You said kind of

1621
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: one of your takeaways was it was a reminder of

1622
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: how close her and Chris Ballard are.

1623
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 2: Is that a takeaway that you had for sure? And

1624
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: to just give a little context here. Jordan's spoke to

1625
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 2: Carly before things went south for this team. So it's

1626
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 2: an interesting profile for sure. I encourage you all to

1627
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: check it out. But to an extent, it's almost like

1628
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 2: you remember how different the vibes were before the Jacksonville game,

1629
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: before the torn Achilles for Daniel Jones. And there's a

1630
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 2: a lot of great tibbets in here. A lot of

1631
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: the I think closest of the relationship between her and

1632
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 2: Chris Ballad is examined. But yeah, it doesn't also skirt

1633
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: the fact that there is a big, big decision for

1634
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: Carly to make regarding his tenure and other decisions for this.

1635
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 1: We were talking a little bit in the nine o'clock hour

1636
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: about it yesterday I decided to take a little bit

1637
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: of a deeper look at it again. Sunday will be

1638
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: the eleven year anniversary of the Colts' last home playoff game.

1639
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: Obviously that correlates with no division titles in that span,

1640
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 1: and you and I were chatting, James. If you look

1641
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks and the head coaches here in the

1642
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: AFC South that have won the division, not a lot

1643
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: of names. I think you'll hear in Canton, Ohio one day.

1644
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: So I went through the list. You ready for these

1645
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: head coaches that have won the division title in that span.

1646
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 2: I am unfamiliar with the few of them.

1647
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: Let's just assume it's Liam Cohen and the Jags here

1648
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,839
Speaker 1: this year. So you'll go with Liam Cohen, Demico Ryans twice,

1649
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, Mike Vrabel two times. Bill O'Brien won the

1650
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: AFC South four times. Doug Morone in Jacksonville was your other.

1651
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: Those are your head coaches. Your quarterbacks again, assuming it's

1652
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: Xonville this year, It'll be Trevor Lawrence twice, CJ. Stroud twice,

1653
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill, Deshaun Watson each two times, and then the

1654
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: first three winners that started this Colt's drought, if you will,

1655
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:21,759
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, Brock Osweiler, and former cult legend Brian Hoyer.

1656
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: So those are the names Hoyer, Osweiler, Bortles, Watson, Tannehill,

1657
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: Lawrence Stroud. Those are your quarterbacks and your head coaches

1658
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: as followed. Don't hear a lot of Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes,

1659
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:39,839
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, John Harball, Mike Tomlin, Lamar Jackson.

1660
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 2: Don't hear a lot of those names on that list.

1661
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: That is pritzy damming. I mean, I think you're selling

1662
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 2: Brian horror short there. He's definitely a Hall of Famer.

1663
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: But Colt's starting quarterback right at one point, Brian Hoyer

1664
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: he was, he was, well, Bill O'Brien win four AFC

1665
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: South titles. I don't think there's a man that has

1666
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: a more despair NFL resume than Bill O'Brien.

1667
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 2: You're probably four AFC South titles.

1668
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 3: He might be the only one of the Belichick tree

1669
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 3: that actually did something as a head coach.

1670
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point Caleb just made. But when

1671
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 2: you put it like that, Kevin, and knowing that throughout

1672
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: the Chris Ballard tenure, you haven't got any closer to

1673
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 2: win the division or iodn say you haven't got closer

1674
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 2: because you were a driveway from it winning it a

1675
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, but which you haven't delivered in

1676
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 2: a division that has been wide open. It feels like annually. Man,

1677
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 2: that is pretty darn disappointing.

1678
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: Joela Harrison going to join us here in a few

1679
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: maybe tomorrow we can get more into it, James, But

1680
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of an annual thing in week eighteen that

1681
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: I do, especially when you know playoffs aren't possible, but

1682
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: you know, we could be looking at the final game

1683
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: in the Colts uniform for some notable players coming up

1684
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Obviously we've talked a lot about Daniel jo

1685
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: Owns this free agency, but Alec Pierce is a free

1686
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: agent and I would argue he will be a very

1687
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: coveted free agent. You know Braden Smith currently injured, but

1688
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 1: what is his status?

1689
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 2: Are we done done with the Quitty Pay thing?

1690
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: Or does a return of Chris Ballard mean Quitty Pay

1691
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: gets yet another chance? I would argue a first round

1692
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: pick that has certainly not lived up to it. Nick Cross,

1693
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: I think largely has had a pretty good assent in

1694
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: his four years. Can you pay another safety big money

1695
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: like you've already paid cam Byam. Jermaine Pratt came over

1696
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 1: free agency, He's stabilized a bit of the linebacker position.

1697
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: Coming off a good game on Sunday? Is he back?

1698
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: Does Leuianna Rumo's presence on the defensive side of the

1699
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: ball influence that or not? So It's kind of an

1700
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: annual thing in Week eighteen that crosses my mind. And

1701
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: also I think you got to have a long, hard

1702
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: conversation about even some of your others that might still

1703
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: have years left on their contracts. But it's big money,

1704
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: and I'd argue the return on investments not there. What

1705
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: does the future necessarily hold for the likes of Michael Pittman, Jr.

1706
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: Ziar Franklin, Kenny Moore. You throw Jonathan Taylor into that

1707
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: group certainly, So much of this depends on what your

1708
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: regime looks like. But it's definitely a conversation that I

1709
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: think you can have heading into Sunday.

1710
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 2: I agree there. I will say, when you look at

1711
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: just the decisions that loom over this team, I think

1712
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: you made a couple of good points there just how

1713
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 2: dire things have been. And I think, Kaylab, I turn

1714
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 2: to you sometimes for like the fan perspective on it

1715
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 2: and the weird part about this Colts team, and I

1716
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: think it's gotten to this point this year especially is

1717
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 2: just the apathy. It's I don't care what happens anymore

1718
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 2: type of thing. There are again a ton of fans

1719
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 2: like fire everybody, get rid of everybody. I'm not dismissing those,

1720
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 2: but there's also like this apathetic outlook of well, whatever

1721
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 2: we do, it's not going to work because we haven't

1722
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 2: seen any of your you know, chances or decision is

1723
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: working the last few years.

1724
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 3: I think that's how a lot of Colts fans felt

1725
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 3: before the season, that it was headed that way. And

1726
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 3: then you start seven to one, eight and two or whatever.

1727
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 2: You're back in.

1728
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 3: You're back in, they really you're back in, right, and

1729
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 3: now we just end up kind of in the same place.

1730
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 3: That's what I think is kind of maybe not being

1731
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 3: spoken about enough. Is just what week one next year,

1732
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 3: if everybody's back, what is that building going to be?

1733
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: Like?

1734
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 3: How do you ask the fans to say, you know, no,

1735
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 3: we just need one more year, give us one more

1736
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 3: chance at this that that's a tough ask, tough ask,

1737
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 3: especially for new ownership. So I that's I think kind

1738
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 3: of not being talked about enough, and it's probably being

1739
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 3: talked about a lot, but still like you can't overstate

1740
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 3: it here.

1741
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: I think it's all I said. I think it's a

1742
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: really tough ask. And also you've got hey stick with us,

1743
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: and we've got a quarterback coming off of torn achilles,

1744
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: which is probably another agree to point, I thought Scott

1745
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: Scott pointed out in the YouTube chat.

1746
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 2: A little bit earlier.

1747
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 1: You know, was he eight and to start a blessing

1748
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: or a curse?

1749
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. That's a great question.

1750
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 1: It's a really interesting point story off that, Lord Percy.

1751
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes the hard reset, while difficult to

1752
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: admit is necessary, can be the necessary item to it all.

1753
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's something that we can get into. All right.

1754
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: Coming up to the other side, Joel A. Ericsson from

1755
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 1: The Star. He joins us next. Alright, nine o'clock hour,

1756
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: we wait official word from Shane stike In on exactly

1757
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: who a Colt starting quarterback will be in week eighteen.

1758
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: It is a normal cadence week for the Colts. So

1759
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,839
Speaker 1: today player off day. Tomorrow, we'll do the Wednesday walk through, practice,

1760
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday off to Houston for the season finale.

1761
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 1: And James, boy, that's a rocket run, right, that's a

1762
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,879
Speaker 1: quick little trip for you guys trying to get back before.

1763
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 2: Locker room clean out, is it not, Yes, sir, I

1764
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 2: will be flying out Saturday, flying back Sunday nights after

1765
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 2: the game, So pray for no overtime. There you go,

1766
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: and even if there was, I probably just leave catch

1767
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: my flight. I mean, does it matter what am I

1768
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 2: staying around for? I'm being honest here, I actually thought

1769
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 2: about that, Like, would my editors just be like, hey,

1770
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 2: you hit the road?

1771
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 6: Now?

1772
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 1: Speaking of flights? Did I get when there's a large

1773
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 1: is it a mural of Joela Erickson in the Indianapolis airport?

1774
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: This is according to our p one listener Derek White,

1775
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: and I believe that is the case. Mural do I

1776
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 2: have that correct?

1777
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: Picture?

1778
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: Can't be murrol has to be something like, I don't know, statue, statue,

1779
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if that would be right now? Really

1780
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 2: a compass? How great of a person joy Erickson is?

1781
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 1: Joela haven't flown in a while? Is this true?

1782
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 6: I am unaware that there's a picture of me in

1783
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 6: the airport.

1784
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 2: I didn't know that it's a wanted poster.

1785
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Oh come on now, you guys are just being clemming.

1786
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: Joel's just he's just being a nice, humble individual.

1787
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 2: It's a wanted poster. That's why he's being nice.

1788
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 4: You guys fly all the time. How do we not

1789
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 4: spotted this? That's not like our airport's that big.

1790
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 6: I have no idea, I very seriously have no idea.

1791
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 6: What the what the listener is talking about that there's

1792
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 6: a there's a picture of me in the airport.

1793
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 2: I think it's similar to how I see it at

1794
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 2: Pacers games because you have a partnership with them. Sometimes

1795
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 2: I'll see Joel Papaupa like the jumbo try and I'll think,

1796
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I know that person. So it's a

1797
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: very cool experience. And maybe Joel. I think if it

1798
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: is somewhere, it might be where baggage claim is and

1799
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 2: we never go there because we pack light.

1800
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, that that is true. If it is my baggage claim.

1801
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 6: I haven't been there in a long long time because

1802
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 6: I just everything's cary on and you just sail right there.

1803
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 2: He didn't even check up back to Berlin. I did not,

1804
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 2: that's efficiency respect.

1805
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 6: I had I had that thing. I had that thing

1806
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 6: packed that I was worried the suitcase was going to explode,

1807
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 6: right like, because the last time we went to Germany,

1808
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 6: my wife came with us and she checked the bag

1809
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 6: and that bag didn't get there right And all I

1810
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 6: could think about was, Uh, I'm going to get to

1811
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 6: Germany and they're gonna be like, you don't have any clothes,

1812
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 6: And so I was like, I'm just gonna take them

1813
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 6: with me.

1814
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way.

1815
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 1: You know, all of a sudden, you're scrambling in the

1816
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: Berlin airport for a zipper here to try to get

1817
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: your bag back together.

1818
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: You're busting at the seams.

1819
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 4: Joel a Arison from The Star what to see her

1820
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 4: palalst Lickors hotline, Joe, let's start big picture.

1821
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 2: I know you wrote something on it and I want

1822
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 2: to get into it.

1823
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: Those really good piece kind of painting both sides of

1824
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: the Carliersay Gordon decision story.

1825
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question here.

1826
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,919
Speaker 1: First, do you think the evaluation for her in regards

1827
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: to Chris Baward is a comparing a nine year resume

1828
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 1: or a one year resume?

1829
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, And I think that's the that's

1830
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 6: kind of the most important question is you know, you

1831
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 6: asked way back in June, you know, is this the

1832
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 6: playoffs or bus season? And she said, you know, it

1833
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 6: depends on you know, what happens. She even mentioned injury

1834
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 6: as possibility, And I think that's that's really the ultimate question.

1835
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 6: Is it just comes down to do you bet on

1836
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 6: the promise of this season? You know, this is the

1837
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 6: team that did get to eight and two, they're still

1838
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 6: I think fourth in d VOA, which is a statistic

1839
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 6: that you know is sort of a if it's like

1840
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 6: war in baseball or something like that, where you're trying

1841
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 6: to come up with a uh a one stop, you know,

1842
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 6: kind of look at all of it, how good a

1843
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 6: team is? Do you that and go, well, if we've

1844
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 6: got gangle Jones, maybe we can recapture that, or do

1845
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 6: you look at the entire tenure? Because I think if

1846
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 6: I think if you look at the entire tenure, it's

1847
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 6: it's hard to make that case. But if if it's

1848
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 6: if it's based on do we want to try to

1849
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 6: recapture what we have at the beginning of this season,

1850
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 6: I think that's the case for bringing him back again.

1851
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 2: We're talking to Indianapolis celebrity joy Erickson, who has a

1852
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 2: mural and a statue soon to be erected outside of

1853
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 2: Lucas Little Stadium as well.

1854
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 1: He's the mid court logo on the basketball court there you.

1855
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 2: Go shout out to the morning hoofs that you play Joel.

1856
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: But on a more serious note, we have been going

1857
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 2: back and forth about this when it comes to Chris

1858
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 2: Ballard here on the show. If you're evaluating him Joel,

1859
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 2: how much do you weigh the nine season as a

1860
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 2: whole versus the one year this year? Like, if you

1861
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 2: have to split it into percentages, what percentage are you

1862
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,719
Speaker 2: going towards nine years versus one year?

1863
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 6: I I think if it I think if it was me,

1864
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 6: I would lean towards the nine years. I've been thinking

1865
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 6: about that for the last couple of days, like how

1866
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 6: would I handle it? On the flip side of it, though,

1867
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 6: I think part of it is that once you get

1868
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 6: once you bring Shane Staken into it, it pushes you

1869
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 6: back towards the one year, and that's that's I think

1870
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 6: maybe the hardest part is because they haven't been there

1871
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 6: together the whole year or the whole time. I think

1872
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 6: if you start with if you're thinking about just Ballard,

1873
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 6: I think it's probably got to be at least in

1874
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 6: my mind, it should be the nine years. But if

1875
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 6: it's Stiching, then I think it brings you back to

1876
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 6: this year because Stiken obviously wasn't here for the whole time.

1877
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,719
Speaker 6: And if you, you know, get rid of your GM,

1878
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 6: but don't get rid of your coach. I kind of

1879
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 6: think and I'm sure there are examples against this, but

1880
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 6: it just feels to me like like, really, you're just

1881
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 6: delaying the inevitable because the new GM always wants to coach,

1882
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 6: and so it feels like if you give up on

1883
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:32,799
Speaker 6: a Valord and you end up giving up on Stikeen

1884
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 6: at the same time. And that's where I think the

1885
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 6: decision gets complicated, because you know you can obviously you can,

1886
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 6: you can move the general manager without moving the head coach.

1887
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 6: But the one that sticks out to me for that

1888
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 6: is just remember Tennessee fired their general manager. They had

1889
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 6: Mike Rabel. The whole storyline for a month around that

1890
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 6: team was this is Mike Rabel taking full control over

1891
01:32:55,840 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 6: the Titans organization and he's untouchable now. And then he

1892
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 6: was gone like seven or eight games in the next season,

1893
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 6: and that kind of, you know, to me underlined, if

1894
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 6: you make a move at one of those positions, you're

1895
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 6: just kind of delaying and move at one of the others.

1896
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 1: And that's the voice of Joeli Erickson from The Star.

1897
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: He's with us here on the Payless Slickers hotline. Joel,

1898
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: it's a question that I get, I would say a decent.

1899
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 2: Amount, but it's it's kind of a hard one for me.

1900
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: To really try and justify, so I'll maybe throw it

1901
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: your away. And I was reminded of it. I was

1902
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: reading this piece in the Athletic this morning, kind of

1903
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 1: a Carli Ursa Gordon profiled in the piece. There's some

1904
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 1: phrasing there and I'm paraphrasing here. You know, it's the

1905
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,560
Speaker 1: small town team and a big boys league, or have

1906
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: everyone to describe the Colts, you know, And I think

1907
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 1: if you talk thirty two teams in the NFL, financially,

1908
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 1: the Colts probably aren't in whatever the top five or

1909
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: top ten of that list, given the transition and ownership,

1910
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 1: given the the inheritance tax element to it. Given I

1911
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 1: believe Chris Ballad has one more year left on his contract,

1912
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 1: I want to say Shane Stiken has three more years left.

1913
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: Do you think those finances and what it would cost

1914
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 1: to potentially fire both of them, do you think that's

1915
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: at play in any of the decision making at all?

1916
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 2: Because I feel like that's a question I get asked about.

1917
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 2: I don't know a decent amount.

1918
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's a good question that I don't I

1919
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 6: don't really know the answer to one of the toughest

1920
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 6: things I think about covering the NFL is that outside

1921
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 6: of a hint, which is all we really get, is

1922
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 6: that when the Packers release theirs because they they release

1923
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 6: their finances because they're not owned by a single you know,

1924
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 6: entity the same way that other teams are. That's that's

1925
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 6: a hint. But like I also don't look at that

1926
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 6: too closely because the Packers obviously are at the Colts,

1927
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 6: and I don't know that it applies too much. And

1928
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 6: I just we just don't know exactly what the cash

1929
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 6: flow is. There's there's no and there's no way. Like

1930
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 6: in college, when you cover a college team, most of

1931
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 6: them you can it's public. It's a public school, so

1932
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 6: you can boy it and you can find out what

1933
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 6: the what the finances are. You just can't do it

1934
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 6: in the NFL. And so I think that that's the

1935
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 6: toughest thing is I don't know, I really don't. I

1936
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 6: don't know if they I don't know if it plays

1937
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:24,959
Speaker 6: into it or do so again.

1938
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 2: We're talking to Joy ericson Colts Insider for Indie Star

1939
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 2: and this just in from ESPN Stephen Holden, Jeremy Fowler.

1940
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 2: The Colts are expected to start Roley Leonard for the

1941
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 2: season finale, if that is indeed the case, Joel, which

1942
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're probably sending off some texts as well

1943
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,679
Speaker 2: as I am, uh, is that the right decision because

1944
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,520
Speaker 2: yesterday Shane sort of left the door open for possibly

1945
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 2: Philip being back out there.

1946
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I kind of saw out on Sunday the way

1947
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 6: he talked about it, it was it was kind of

1948
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 6: leading towards right Leonard. I do think it's the right

1949
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 6: to decision. You bring in Rivers because you feel like

1950
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 6: you want the professionalism and being able to run the

1951
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 6: offense and the experience and the experience and make the

1952
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 6: right decisions in games and play the right way in

1953
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,879
Speaker 6: games where you don't necessarily get that with the younger quarterback.

1954
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 6: They don't have the playoffs staring them in the face anymore.

1955
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 6: And I know this team believes Riley Leonard can be

1956
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:30,719
Speaker 6: a developmental you know, backup, can develop into a backup

1957
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 6: at the very least in the NFL. I think you

1958
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,600
Speaker 6: you make that decision to give him some snaps and

1959
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 6: give him that very important chance to play the game

1960
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,560
Speaker 6: once once you're only made from the playoffs.

1961
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: Do you think Philip Rivers will be the backup.

1962
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 6: They they they signed Seth Hendingen.

1963
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: Yesterday and it sounds like the starter at HSC this

1964
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 1: past year, or was he Fisher's this quarterback they signed.

1965
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 6: They signed former Memphis quarterback and Jaguars rookie Seths heading

1966
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 6: in yesterday the practice squad, and immediately I think most

1967
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 6: people probably thought this. I thought, you know, is at

1968
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 6: the backup for for Sunday, because I don't know if.

1969
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 6: I don't know if if you're not if you're not

1970
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 6: playing Philip Rivers in the starting lineup, you know, I

1971
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 6: don't know if you have him ready to go. Even

1972
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 6: if he's there, I don't know if he's even if

1973
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 6: even if you keep him on the roster, I don't

1974
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 6: know if he's if he goes on the trip, I

1975
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 6: don't know if I would play him in the event

1976
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 6: unless you unless you absolutely got down to your third quarterback.

1977
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 6: I think you know, as a both as a you know,

1978
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 6: decision for the franchise, but also as a just kind

1979
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 6: of a sign of respect for Philip, you don't you

1980
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 6: don't go, okay, We're just going to have you here

1981
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 6: as a as a backup in case of something where

1982
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 6: we're out of the playoffs. So now we're in a

1983
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 6: We're in a situation where we're gonna handle it differently,

1984
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 6: handle it more like I can't remember. I think I

1985
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 6: texted James and some of the other writers with this.

1986
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 6: You know, some of the guys that played quarterback in

1987
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 6: the league last year last week started, you know, Chris

1988
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 6: Oladokun for Kansas City, Josh Johnson is still playing for Washington.

1989
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 6: Brady Cook. As much as I love Brady Cook as

1990
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 6: a Missouri alum, I don't know that anybody thought he

1991
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 6: was going to start for the Jets this year. You're

1992
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 6: kind of getting more into that situation with with those

1993
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 6: teams than you are when you were you were trying

1994
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 6: to still push for the playoffs.

1995
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: So just to go over what we are guessing for

1996
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 1: the quarterback depth chart on Sunday, Leonard start your neighbor

1997
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: Seth as the backup, Philip Rivers holding a Microsoft surface

1998
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 1: not dressed, and Anthony Richardson not yet clear for game activity.

1999
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 2: Is that?

2000
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 1: Is that what we're going with?

2001
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:59,759
Speaker 6: It sounded it sounded yesterday. It sounded yesterday like Anthony Richardson,

2002
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 6: like the Colts believe Anthony Richardson is still dealing with

2003
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 6: visual limitation, and I think that they're I think that

2004
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,879
Speaker 6: there it seems like their team is I is concerned

2005
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 6: about the possible effects of putting him out there if

2006
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 6: he's dealing with that.

2007
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 2: Okay, last last one.

2008
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 1: Joy ericson from The Star with the Serier payless lockers hotline.

2009
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it rather open ended. The best player

2010
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,799
Speaker 1: on the twenty twenty five Colts football team has been who.

2011
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 6: It's It's still Jonathan Taylor.

2012
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 4: I know the numbers are ugly over the last two months,

2013
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 4: I will say.

2014
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: That they are.

2015
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 6: But the first two months were crazy, sure, and I

2016
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 6: think I think that's the first ten games. The Berlian

2017
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 6: game still happened, you know, I mean the first the last.

2018
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 6: The other thing is the last two months have been

2019
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 6: You're right, the last two months have been ugly, and

2020
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 6: he's gonna finish second in the NFL and rushing.

2021
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 2: I think, what if I took Taylor out of it?

2022
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 6: If you take Taylor out of it, best player for

2023
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 6: the Colts this year, it's probably it's probably Quentin.

2024
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 2: Cam bying them. Boy, that was a long cause.

2025
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 6: It's probably Quentin. It's well, I was throwing, I was

2026
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 6: rolling through, Quentin cam Bye, them, Alec Pierce, Tyler, Warren. Warren,

2027
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 6: like like Taylor, had had a fall off, but if

2028
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 6: you look at his numbers, it's still numbers you would

2029
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,799
Speaker 6: absolutely take from a rookie tight end. He's over seventy catches.

2030
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,719
Speaker 6: And then the other one that goes in there, especially

2031
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 6: like early in the season, would be I think I

2032
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 6: think the guy I was asked in the chat that

2033
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 6: we do on Indie Starr, you know, did I did

2034
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 6: I think any of any colts got snubbed for the

2035
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 6: Pro Bowl? And I mentioned, you know, Warren had a case,

2036
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 6: but I also think Tanner Borderlini had a case at

2037
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 6: center based on the way he played early in the season.

2038
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 6: Those spots went to Linderbaum and Baltimore and Humphrey and

2039
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 6: Kansas City, which that's those are kind of the we

2040
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 6: always put these guys in here guys. But I thought

2041
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 6: Borderlini was was maybe making a play for a Pro

2042
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 6: Bowl spot early in the season.

2043
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 1: Find his work, it's excellent as always Joel A. Erickson

2044
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: over on the Indianapolis Star, and it'll be a quick

2045
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: one back from Houston and we'll await what exactly is

2046
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 1: going to take place here coming up next Sunday or

2047
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 1: I guess this Sunday and Monday.

2048
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 2: Joel is always Joe real quick, my subscription, just renew,

2049
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 2: Frandy Starr. So I want my shorts, I want my features,

2050
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 2: I want it all annual subscription. Baby. I am locked

2051
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 2: in with Joey Ericson and Nathan Brown.

2052
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 1: When you said shorts, I thought you meant literally basketball.

2053
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 1: That was part of your twenty twenty six gifts.

2054
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 2: No stories, is what I will say that on the

2055
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 2: right lines, on the right side, I don't need any

2056
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 2: shorts from Joel. I think I think I got that covered.

2057
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 6: George is my face on him when that's so, there's

2058
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 6: no way that would.

2059
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 2: So there you go, all right, Joel, you have a

2060
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 2: going brother. I'll see you home.

2061
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: How you with you again? Joey Rickson right there on

2062
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 1: the payloss Slickers hotline. So the reporting from ESPN is

2063
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 1: it will be Rightley Leonard coming up on Sunday.

2064
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:09,799
Speaker 2: I know, maybe a brief scary yesterday.

2065
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: I thought the Shane Stike and audio was a hair odd,

2066
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 1: but that's probably part of the course with Stike in there.

2067
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: But James, in my opinion, this is the right move,

2068
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, again, I have to think about what next

2069
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: September could look like and if Daniel Jones is going

2070
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: to be limited or not cleared yet in any way,

2071
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,680
Speaker 1: shape or form. I mean not to look ahead too much,

2072
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: but can you imagine, like what September could be like

2073
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 1: for this team next year? I mean you could be

2074
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: starting some sort of Rightley Leonard like guy, or I

2075
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you go out and you try to

2076
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 1: get a veteran backup in the offseason. I assume that

2077
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson experience is done, but like you're gonna have

2078
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 1: to scratch and claw your way to a couple wins

2079
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: early in the season or else you are behind the

2080
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,759
Speaker 1: eight ball and you are hoping him praying that Daniel

2081
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:56,600
Speaker 1: Jones gets back from the torn Achilles and gives you,

2082
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 1: you know, crazy good football for the final three months

2083
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: of the year to get back in it. So if

2084
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 1: you can get Leonard any experience, I think it's important

2085
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 1: to do that. I would lean towards that as well.

2086
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 2: I get the personal relationship between Philip Rivers and Shane Stychen,

2087
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 2: but you can't let that cloud what is plainly true.

2088
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 2: You're out of it. There is no future with Philip Rivers.

2089
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 2: You might even argue that there's no future with Riley

2090
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 2: Leonard really, but there's still a sliver of we drafted

2091
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 2: this guy, he's young, roll with him and to see

2092
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 2: what he has, because at the very least, even if

2093
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 2: he turned into a nice backup option for you get

2094
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 2: his feet wet man in a game, that otherwise does

2095
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 2: the matter.

2096
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to make this clear, I am

2097
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 1: certainly not saying or thinking or believing there is this

2098
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 1: brock prety future for Riley Leonard. I think that is

2099
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 1: beyond premature. But you might need a dude for September

2100
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, just point blank. So if you have

2101
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 1: an opportunity to try and get a guy that opportunity

2102
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:03,759
Speaker 1: here on SUN I think that's beneficial than seeing another

2103
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers chapter. But nonetheless, if this is indeed it

2104
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 1: for Philip Rivers, as I said yesterday, Derek Jeter gift

2105
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: hat tip, unbelievable and I saw we have a Hall

2106
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 1: of Fame finalist for twenty twenty six, announce again this

2107
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: is just the fifteen. They'll pare it down from there.

2108
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: But you look at that list and boy, there was

2109
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: some definite names. This year is Class, Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald,

2110
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 1: adam Na Terry Is on the final fifteen. I couldn't

2111
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 1: believe in Terry didn't get in last year. I know,

2112
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 1: debate we'll have here in the coming weeks. I think

2113
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 1: the new selection process has really hurt a lot of

2114
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 1: these guys from getting in. Reggie Wayne Is in the

2115
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: final fifteen, Frank Gore in the final fifteen.

2116
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 2: I mean, Breeze and Fitzgerald the first balloders, right, gotta be,

2117
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 2: I would think, especially Breeze. I mean, there's there's no

2118
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 2: way he's waiting. Yeah, there's no way he's waiting. All right.

2119
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,560
Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll continue to talk about the new quarterback

2120
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: for the Colts in week eighteen.

2121
01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 2: But let's hit a morning checked down all right on

2122
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:05,719
Speaker 2: the Heartwood.

2123
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 1: Last night down in Houston, it was the Indiana Pacers

2124
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 1: losing their ninth straight. It was an ugly first couple quarters.

2125
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 1: Actually the only competitive nature was really in the fourth

2126
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: quarter when a lot of their subs made a valiant

2127
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 1: run to try and create it somewhat of a game,

2128
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 1: but nothing really too too crazy on that end.

2129
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 2: So it was a ninth straight loss.

2130
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 1: They will now take on the Orlando Magic coming up

2131
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 1: tomorrow that is a three o'clock game over at Gamebridge

2132
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 1: field House. Is the season long losing streak? I want

2133
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 1: to say the franchise record is twelve straight losses. And

2134
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 1: we'll wait and see exactly what the availability looks like

2135
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 1: for the Pacers. All in all, they're pretty healthy right now.

2136
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: Aaron ee Smith probably one bright spot. He did play

2137
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,600
Speaker 1: a second game last night and looked pretty good. So

2138
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: Magic afternoon game tomorrow. Victor Webbin Yama on Friday inside

2139
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 1: of Gamebridge field House. Monday Night football last night, it

2140
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Speaker 1: was the Falcons beating the Rams twenty seven to twenty four.

2141
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 2: Wild game.

2142
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bjhon Robinson ripping off of what was it ninety

2143
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:12,759
Speaker 1: three ninety three yard touchdown run. You had Matthew Stafford

2144
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 1: throwing three picks, the Rams coming back from twenty four

2145
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: to three, Jared Versus making just an absurd individual effort

2146
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: in blocking a field goal. But it was the Falcons

2147
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 1: that got it done their fifty one yard are from

2148
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 1: Zane Gonzalez.

2149
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 2: James Boyd.

2150
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on our final Monday Night regular season game

2151
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:31,639
Speaker 1: of the year.

2152
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 2: It was a fun one and I believe the Rams

2153
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 2: were trying to win that game because they have the Falcons'

2154
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 2: first round pick. Oh, totally forgot about that. You're trying

2155
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 2: to make them lose you get a better pick, and

2156
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 2: it just didn't work out for you. So that was

2157
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 2: an interesting wrinkle from last night's matchup. Where is the

2158
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 2: Colts pick going to be? That's a good question. Does

2159
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 2: it matter you don't have it?

2160
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it's just more for my general curiosity.

2161
01:46:58,439 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were just trying to you know,

2162
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 2: pour gas lean on the seventeen eighteens that's on right?

2163
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: Is that where a team that moday games probably falls

2164
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 1: in there?

2165
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeh, because you're out of it.

2166
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2167
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 2: A other hoop action from last night.

2168
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 1: It was the Purdue boiler Makers forty one point victory

2169
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 1: over Kent State. Very impressive on the defensive end. That's

2170
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 1: what PU Honestly the calling card over the last couple

2171
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 1: of weeks has been that for them holding teams to

2172
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 1: sixty or fewer. Jack Benter, the sharpshooter from Brownstown Central, outstanding.

2173
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: He has now made ten straight threes as a school

2174
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: record for the Boilers. They will take on Wisconsin coming

2175
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 1: up on Saturday as they restart Big Ten play, Butler

2176
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 1: restarting Big East play at Creyton tonight. Our coverage will

2177
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 1: begin right here on the fan at eight thirty. We've

2178
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 1: hit on it all morning long.

2179
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 2: Butler.

2180
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: Right now they are on the right side of the

2181
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: bubble and a lot of these early bracketologies. But they

2182
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 1: have a huge next seven days Creighton to night on

2183
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: the road home to Villanova, Saturday home to Saint John's

2184
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 1: a week from tonight.

2185
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 2: Right now, those three wins would all be in the

2186
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 2: quad one range.

2187
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 1: So the Big East not very deep this season. Vital

2188
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 1: for Butler to pad that resume here. We'll see if

2189
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: they can do that over the next week. And shout

2190
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: out to Matthew Graves and the Sycamores. First off, great

2191
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 1: to see him back on the sidelines last night in

2192
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: that full head coaching capacity role after the heart issue

2193
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:19,839
Speaker 1: that he had a back before the start of the season,

2194
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 1: and the Sycamores got it done. They beat Belmont in

2195
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 1: an overtime victory there, so it sounds like some great

2196
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: theater for Indiana State and coach Graves. Outside of that,

2197
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 1: that probably covers everything.

2198
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 2: On my end.

2199
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Tiger Woods, Lebron James.

2200
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 2: And Greg Greystraw. I got one more for you, and

2201
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 2: not in that order unless you covered it already. But

2202
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne and Adam Vini Terry being finalist for the

2203
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame, did you tune me out?

2204
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 2: I didn't tune you out. I just wanted to get

2205
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:52,639
Speaker 2: there for the break. But shout out to the break

2206
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 2: I had you the first time.

2207
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard James tuned me out with.

2208
01:48:56,040 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 3: That you was you know, obviously the focus was Breeze

2209
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 3: gonna be a first ball, but James, he did mention

2210
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 3: Wayne and Vanitaria. But it's okay, It's okay.

2211
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 1: I know James trying to multitask over there.

2212
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sending a couple different texts here, but yeah,

2213
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 2: sorry about that.

2214
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 1: Confirms the reporting. It'll be It'll be me and me

2215
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 1: and Kleb here for.

2216
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 2: The rest of the that Marcus, Marcus Freeman, we need

2217
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 2: to hear you. Gotta get back, get the Mark dyd

2218
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 2: and Buzzer in there. Sorry about that, Marcus Freeman. Back

2219
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame.

2220
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Is this gonna be like an annual thing, like a

2221
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fans gonna do this every year? Like what

2222
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:33,679
Speaker 1: was Marcus Freeman saying? No to the Giants in the NFL.

2223
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 1: It's what it sounds like.

2224
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I like when these coaches do it, but

2225
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 3: I also hate it. It's such a recruiting play, like

2226
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 3: I'm not leaving.

2227
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 2: You want to come play for my school? I'm not

2228
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,639
Speaker 2: gonna leave. But I know what James thinks too. You know, hey,

2229
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 2: any way you can get that money up right, anyway

2230
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 2: you can. Everything is leverage, man, I tell you all

2231
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 2: the time, I'm a higher mercenary.

2232
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 1: Is there a sport that's more year to year the

2233
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:00,839
Speaker 1: in college football?

2234
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 2: No?

2235
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: Right now, I don't think so, and I guess college

2236
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 1: basketball you could probably throw into that category. But like,

2237
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 1: it just seems like it's the most year to year

2238
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 1: of professional college anything.

2239
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

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01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't at all. I get that it's a reality

2241
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 1: of where we're at right now, and obviously it's been

2242
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:21,719
Speaker 1: super advantageous to the program in Bloomington. Does Kurtz Signetty

2243
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 1: have great success at IU without all the jam you

2244
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: guys coming there? Who knows?

2245
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just don't.

2246
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 1: Love the year to year nature to it. Again, it

2247
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 1: can help you a big time, and Notre Dame has

2248
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 1: benefited from it. You know, Notre Dame to the transfer

2249
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,560
Speaker 1: portal quarterback a whole lot. You'll see j car is

2250
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 1: kind of the first one they've settled on. So maybe

2251
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: it's pot kettle black here, but man, it just you

2252
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 1: need some guard rails. And I'm not even getting into it.

2253
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 1: I know Matt Painter went on or he was asked

2254
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 1: about it last night, but it was a long, long

2255
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,839
Speaker 1: answer about where we're at from a college basketball standpoint

2256
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 1: right now, and some of these guys that have, you know,

2257
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 1: been draft picks in the NBA on two way contracts

2258
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: now going back and playing college basketball. Boy, it's it's

2259
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,640
Speaker 1: a Texas highway, and we need to get We need

2260
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: to get some guardrails. We need to get some speed

2261
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 1: limit signs on it asap.

2262
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 6: All right.

2263
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side, we'll continue our sports

2264
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 1: countdown list top ten we got to get back into

2265
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 1: that before the end of the year, and also more

2266
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 1: on the Colts and a starting quarterback for week eighteen.

2267
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 1: All right, we'll continue our countdown of the top ten

2268
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 1: sports stories here in the state of Indiana this year.

2269
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 1: We'll do that here to a few. We've got a

2270
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 1: couple that we need to get to news here in

2271
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 1: the last hour from ESPN and sounds like it will

2272
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 1: be rookie Riley Leonard coming up Week eighteen in Houston.

2273
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 2: Boy, quite the opponent for your first ever start.

2274
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:44,759
Speaker 1: In the NFL.

2275
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:46,679
Speaker 2: That Houston defense and James.

2276
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 1: They're banged up a corner, but it does sound like

2277
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna play their guys And just remind everybody on

2278
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 1: Houston status, they need a Jacksonville lost to Tennessee in

2279
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 1: order to win the division.

2280
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 2: Obviously they need to win themselves. They need both those

2281
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 2: things to happen.

2282
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:02,599
Speaker 1: So you know, it could be one of those weird

2283
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 1: sequences where like if all of a sudden at halftime,

2284
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's up whatever three scores in Nashville, then you know,

2285
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 1: maybe they would pump the brakes a little bit there,

2286
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 1: But at least for the start of the game, Raley

2287
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 1: Leonard will see a as healthy as a number one

2288
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 1: defense in the league.

2289
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 2: Sixteen points I believe allowed per game. Yeah, I mean,

2290
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 2: good luck. Honestly, that defense is terrifying. Every time I

2291
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 2: watched them. I watch them against the Chargers and I

2292
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:32,799
Speaker 2: was thinking, boy, they fly around and their edge rushers,

2293
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:36,799
Speaker 2: unlike the Colts ed rushers, they get home all right, let's.

2294
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 1: Count down our list here, and again we've taken it

2295
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:41,640
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I apologize because I certainly have

2296
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 1: not been keeping a consistent up to date on it.

2297
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 1: But they start top ten Indiana sports stories of the year, guys,

2298
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: so far my order ten, moving up, Miles McLoughlin At ten,

2299
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 1: I had Darren DeVries hired.

2300
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 2: At nine.

2301
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: I had Purdue in the sweet sixteen. At eight, a

2302
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,719
Speaker 1: shot away from beating Houston and going to the Elite

2303
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 1: eight over at Lucas Oil. Number seven was the Colts

2304
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 1: hot start six five and four for me, six was

2305
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: Alex Poalow finally getting duns.

2306
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 2: Oh look, I had to man, come on, we gotta

2307
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 2: get that. Can we try this again? Can you start

2308
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 2: over here we go? Number six?

2309
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 1: What a brief Kevin come on hand raised Caleb Zuber

2310
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 1: My fault on that. Alex Plow one of the most

2311
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 1: dominant any car seasons, frankly we've ever seen. You know,

2312
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 1: he had that pass a lot earlier than we're used

2313
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 1: to here in recent eighty five hundreds, and getting by

2314
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 1: Marcus Arison. Of course, he had all the chaos that

2315
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 1: ensued of you know, who was eligible who was not?

2316
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 1: But I had Pulo six, number five, I had Notre

2317
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 1: Dames run to the national championship. You know, if you're

2318
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 1: going with the calendar year, you had Notre Dames win

2319
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: over Georgia technically in twenty twenty five, and then you

2320
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 1: had Notre Dames Orange Bowl win also of course in

2321
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:55,599
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five over Penn States, and Notre Dame making

2322
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 1: of the national title was five, and then I had

2323
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 1: the fever at four. You know, you think about every

2324
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 1: everything that transpired this season for them, you know, I mean,

2325
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: just think about the drama James remember the Dwana Bonner situation.

2326
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was crazy all that.

2327
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 1: Obviously, Caitlin Clark's health, you know, Kelsey Mitchell had the

2328
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 1: very weird injury there in game five of the of

2329
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 1: the semi final round. There So six, five and four

2330
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 1: for me, Pollo Notre Dame and then the fever.

2331
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 2: What do you got, klebu zub? Yeah?

2332
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 3: For my numbers, I mean, unless you want me to

2333
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 3: run through just quickly what I had. I had John

2334
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 3: Halliburton versus Giannis at ten. I had let's see Chris.

2335
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 2: Ballard, and I think that should be number one now

2336
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 2: that I think it should be higher Yeah, you're right.

2337
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard shadestich In returning at number nine, which is

2338
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 3: kind of ironic, maybe getting a little start on the

2339
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six list there Penske cheating scale, number eight

2340
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 3: w NBA All Star Game being in Indie, number seven

2341
01:54:55,720 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 3: and number six. I have the Sauce Gardner trade, number one, five,

2342
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers unretiring, and then at number four.

2343
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson being benched and Daniel Jones.

2344
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 3: Starting kind of just that whole offseason for that number

2345
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 3: four when it was just very like just reading into

2346
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 3: like passing charts in the middle of July at training camp,

2347
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 3: like just kind of a crazy time.

2348
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 2: So I have that, and you could definitely splice out

2349
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 2: some of the Colts stuff.

2350
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 1: I tried to keep it a little bit more like

2351
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 1: kind of statewide and sprinkle in, you know, going all

2352
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 1: the way back to January, but typical Colts fashion. You

2353
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: could make your own top ten list just to those stories. James,

2354
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 1: what do you got?

2355
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to run through it, I had I think

2356
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 2: Brayln Mullins and Luke Ardle at number ten going at

2357
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 2: it in the Sectional championship. Number nine. I had the

2358
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 2: State Championship of the was it Jeffersonville. I believe they

2359
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 2: knocked off Fishers. That was a crazy game over a

2360
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 2: Gamberge footthouse. That was awesome. And then I went to

2361
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 2: I believe the fever at number seven, probably brand them

2362
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 2: a little too low, to be honest with you, and

2363
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 2: then I pivoted to JT's crazy run or crazy game

2364
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 2: over in Berlin, and that to me was, you know,

2365
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 2: pretty enticing and just crazy how that all un floated.

2366
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 2: And then number six sad Notre Dame finishing as the

2367
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 2: national championship runner up. I thought that was honestly a

2368
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 2: little more cosmetic than I thought it would be. Kevin

2369
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 2: to be honest in that game shot to Riley Leonard,

2370
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 2: now a Indianapolis Colt. And then at number I guess

2371
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 2: it's a more personal pro personals. But number five Alex

2372
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 2: Plow going to my first five hundred seeing him win it,

2373
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 2: that was crazy. It was a weird data start off

2374
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 2: that day. If you remember Kevin, it was a lot

2375
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 2: of like it was like kind of slick, kind of cool.

2376
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 2: People were crashing out Skunner League. Yeah, that was crazy,

2377
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 2: But I enjoyed my first five hundred. And then maybe

2378
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm ranking this too low, But I think the top

2379
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 2: three are pretty solidified by one other player in Indianapolis

2380
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 2: or Indiana for that matter, which I'm sure you can

2381
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 2: guess who that is. But number four, Omar Cooper Junior.

2382
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 2: The crazy catch against Penn State. I thought I saw.

2383
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the official list, but I think Sports

2384
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: Center had that really high up on their top plays

2385
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 1: of the year period, Neil Cooper catch.

2386
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 2: Well, then I think about Halliburd and I'm like, well.

2387
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:17,680
Speaker 1: I know, do I make that one moment or yeah,

2388
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm a little torn here on the top three.

2389
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 2: Well, we'll give that coming up. I do have one

2390
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 2: other one outside of the Halliburton moments that he had

2391
01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 2: in my top third.

2392
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: Shoutout to Mark Dyton for the Mark Sanchez story cracking

2393
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 1: his top.

2394
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 2: I think that has an honorable mention on mine. I

2395
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 2: thought that was dish honorable mention actually excellent. One thing

2396
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm curious about now that it looks.

2397
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 1: Like the Leonard news is coming out of him. Start

2398
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 1: on Sunday. How much do we see Saturday, Riley Leonard?

2399
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 1: How much do we see Sunday? Riley Leonard?

2400
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 2: And James you just brought up Notre Dame's run to

2401
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 2: the national title.

2402
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 1: For anybody that watched Notre Dame and played FOOTBA last season,

2403
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 1: they were a run centric football team, with Riley Leonard's

2404
01:57:58,880 --> 01:57:59,919
Speaker 1: legs being.

2405
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 2: A huge part of that.

2406
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 1: You go back to the game in Jacksonville, the Colts

2407
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 1: weren't maybe as run centric with Leonard when he got

2408
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: in the game. You know, sometimes you see this, like

2409
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: Green Bay with Malik Willis, I think is a bit

2410
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 1: of an example of it. You know, when you turn

2411
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 1: to your backup, you know, some of these teams, it's

2412
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:18,400
Speaker 1: almost a totally different playbook of like, hey, this is

2413
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 1: what our guy does best. If you are trying to

2414
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 1: put rather Leonard in the most advantageous situations, I think

2415
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 1: you do treat him coming up on Sunday like the

2416
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 1: college quarterback he was. But if you're trying to grow

2417
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 1: him as a passer and you don't necessarily care about

2418
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 1: the results.

2419
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 2: Of the game, then maybe you do open him up

2420
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 2: a little bit more as a passer.

2421
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 1: It probably won't look pretty, but that's where he needs

2422
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 1: growth is as a pocket passer in the NFL. So,

2423
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:51,880
Speaker 1: given the Colts have lost six to eight, I have

2424
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 1: a feeling they'll opt a little bit more for Riley

2425
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 1: as the runner, and you know, obviously you're trying to

2426
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 1: achieve a balance of both of that, but I am

2427
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 1: curious what that playbook looks like for him coming up

2428
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 1: on Sunday.

2429
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that mainly because you do want

2430
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 2: to give him that experience, but you don't want to

2431
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 2: obviously have him go out there and just not really

2432
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 2: gain much from it. Now, I can hear people arguing, well,

2433
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 2: what he's going to game from one game in a

2434
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 2: meaningless the year point being, you would ideally want him

2435
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 2: to play a style of football that would be something

2436
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 2: that's conducive to how he would actually play moving forward,

2437
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:28,000
Speaker 2: not just getting out there for the sake of it.

2438
01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 1: And that's where I think we get back to like

2439
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 1: these rep debates, you know, with Anthony Richardson in the

2440
01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 1: preseason in previous years of like it's just so important

2441
01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 1: that when you do put those players in the game

2442
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 1: that need some growth as a passer, you just throw it. Like,

2443
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:44,839
Speaker 1: we know Richardson's a great runner. I know Riley Leonard

2444
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 1: can be an effective player with his legs in the NFL,

2445
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 1: yeah for sure, But again, his growth has got to

2446
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 1: come as a passer.

2447
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:52,200
Speaker 2: So how do you achieve that?

2448
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 1: Because you know, I am kind of reminded about this.

2449
01:59:56,560 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 1: You think back to last season, James, and remember the

2450
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:04,680
Speaker 1: Colts won the season finale, the meaningless game with Jacksonville,

2451
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 1: the overtime win over mac Jones, And do you remember

2452
02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 1: kind of the jubilation in that locker room and Jim

2453
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 1: Mersey's comments in that locker room. Yeah, you think if

2454
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 1: the Colts went on Sunday we see something similar?

2455
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:20,160
Speaker 2: Nah, no way, no way.

2456
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:25,160
Speaker 1: What do you think of the postgame locker room on Sunday?

2457
02:00:25,320 --> 02:00:26,840
Speaker 1: I saw Greg Dolph from The Star. I thought it

2458
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:30,600
Speaker 1: was a hair two on the content side. If I

2459
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 1: could put some words in Greg's mouth, I thought it

2460
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:34,240
Speaker 1: was a little bit too.

2461
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:37,520
Speaker 2: I did think that there were a couple of moments

2462
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 2: where I thought some players should have just read the

2463
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:43,240
Speaker 2: room better. And even if that isn't how you feel

2464
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 2: and you're not all doom and gloom, if we're in

2465
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:48,840
Speaker 2: there with cameras and likes and stuff, you probably should

2466
02:00:48,840 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 2: tone it down a bit when it comes to I

2467
02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:56,400
Speaker 2: don't know, talking about things other than getting embarrassed again

2468
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:59,160
Speaker 2: and blowing another ten point lead in a game. Just

2469
02:00:59,200 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 2: my thoughts on.

2470
02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:02,480
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, and honestly more of just like the playoff

2471
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 1: elimination that just happened. Yeah, you know, obviously you.

2472
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 2: But I also wonder if part of that, the reason

2473
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 2: why they reacted like that was because they knew going

2474
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,640
Speaker 2: into the game they were already eliminated. So it takes

2475
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:14,200
Speaker 2: out the sting because you know, you're going out there

2476
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:16,600
Speaker 2: to play a game and be a professional, but there

2477
02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:20,000
Speaker 2: isn't anything at stake for a do or dyed nature

2478
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 2: of you getting into the postseason.

2479
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do it one final time air fan

2480
02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 1: morning show on a Tuesday. Carlisle Tomorrow coming up right

2481
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 1: around this time. Sounds like we'll have him, Matt and

2482
02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:34,760
Speaker 1: a game. I know it's a game that a lot

2483
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:37,879
Speaker 1: of families enjoy going to tomorrow for the Pacers, Pacers

2484
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 1: and Magic Tomorrow three o'clock. They'll try to end.

2485
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 2: A nine game loser.

2486
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:47,080
Speaker 1: You gotta go back to December eighth, the last time

2487
02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:50,800
Speaker 1: we have had a Colts win or a Pacers win.

2488
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 1: The day after the game in Jacksonville, James to put

2489
02:01:55,320 --> 02:01:57,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more context around that, the Pacers beat

2490
02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:59,360
Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings.

2491
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:03,880
Speaker 2: I know, I remember nothing about that game. Well, here's

2492
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:08,200
Speaker 2: one for you. They haven't won a game since December eight,

2493
02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 2: and I'm joking, it is remarkable that it has been

2494
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 2: almost to the new year, twenty twenty six, Kevin, that

2495
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 2: that has happened, and yeah, let's hope in the new year.

2496
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:23,160
Speaker 2: I can pay attention during the show. But in all seriousness,

2497
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:26,880
Speaker 2: it is to me kind of crazy that actually someone

2498
02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 2: through out there like this is really bad vibes for

2499
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 2: both teams in the city. Someone had the audacity to

2500
02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:37,080
Speaker 2: ask which team will win first, the Pacers of the Colts,

2501
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, I would hope it's the Pacers

2502
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:41,760
Speaker 2: because they get more chances at this within the next

2503
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 2: couple of months or so, but.

2504
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 3: It's are you gonna win more games than the Pacers

2505
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:50,000
Speaker 3: in the Colts?

2506
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a couple of weeks now, but James,

2507
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:55,879
Speaker 1: remember we got the question in from the listener of well,

2508
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:58,920
Speaker 1: I think this was like just before Thanksgiving. The question

2509
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:01,280
Speaker 1: was who win more games the rest of the year

2510
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:04,200
Speaker 1: inside of lucas Olo Stadium. The Colts are au Football

2511
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:09,440
Speaker 1: and the answer was AU football. Boy, quite the confidence

2512
02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 1: of Kurt Signetti. How about Kurt Signetti? The NFL people

2513
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:14,840
Speaker 1: are gonna talk about Marcus streaming in the NFL. Why

2514
02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 1: not Signetti?

2515
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:20,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, why not? You know me, Kayler, I

2516
02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:23,360
Speaker 2: can hear the dollars, you know, dollars, Signe. Can you

2517
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:25,280
Speaker 2: get an extension on top of the extension? Can you

2518
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:27,040
Speaker 2: get a rail on the top of the rays? And

2519
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:29,240
Speaker 2: we talked to Signety and get us people set up right.

2520
02:03:29,320 --> 02:03:31,880
Speaker 3: By the way, Kevin Perdue could win a game inside

2521
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:33,000
Speaker 3: Lucas Oil Stadium.

2522
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 2: Basketball, mayb I win two games? This bit is getting worse.

2523
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:42,040
Speaker 2: This is not good.

2524
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:45,040
Speaker 1: Report here in the last hour, it'll be Riley Leonard

2525
02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:49,560
Speaker 1: coming up from ESPN Week eighteen against.

2526
02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:51,280
Speaker 2: The second coming of Tom Brady. By the way, the

2527
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,560
Speaker 2: Houston six round picks, six round pick.

2528
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:56,480
Speaker 1: His only extended actions so far this season, meaningful snaps

2529
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:58,560
Speaker 1: was in Jacksonville. I thought he looked okay in that game.

2530
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 1: You know, I want to get too blown away with it.

2531
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: You know, we've had this debate, James, over the last

2532
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. You know, Leonard, should he be getting

2533
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 1: more of the action. I do feel like I would

2534
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 1: have rather seen Leonard than Rivers, you know, especially if

2535
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 1: you can remove yourself from the movie angled to it.

2536
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:15,520
Speaker 2: I think in the.

2537
02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:17,320
Speaker 1: End Woul the Colts still be ohing three in these

2538
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:22,000
Speaker 1: last three games. Probably do I think it would have

2539
02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:23,520
Speaker 1: looked a little bit more volatile.

2540
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:24,560
Speaker 2: Certainly.

2541
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 1: I think you would have had some higher highs from Leonard,

2542
02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 1: but also some lower lows. And I think that's the

2543
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:33,920
Speaker 1: question for Sunday. Like right now, this Colt's offense over

2544
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:38,680
Speaker 1: the last three weeks has done nothing from a potency standpoint.

2545
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:43,680
Speaker 1: The ability to truly create chunk plays has been really

2546
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 1: vanished from this offense for the better part of the

2547
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:49,880
Speaker 1: last twelve quarters. But you know, and I know Rivers

2548
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 1: has had a few turnovers, but you know, for the

2549
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 1: most part they've protected the ball, you know, decently.

2550
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:56,440
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, that obviously.

2551
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 1: Could be two winds of the spectrum coming up on Sunday.

2552
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:00,560
Speaker 1: Maybe Leonard is able to Hootini his way into a

2553
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:03,160
Speaker 1: couple of chunk plays. But also is there a strip

2554
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:05,120
Speaker 1: sack or two against it on one ranked defense in

2555
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:08,160
Speaker 1: the NFL? Is there, you know, multiple interceptions in a

2556
02:05:08,200 --> 02:05:09,720
Speaker 1: game so that we didn't see from Rivers.

2557
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 2: And to your point, you're still playing with the offensive

2558
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 2: line is a little bit different than what you came

2559
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:16,600
Speaker 2: into the year with. We'll see if Tanner BORDERLINI can

2560
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 2: clear concussion protocol and in his season playing rather than watching.

2561
02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, it'll be interesting to hear from everyone, I

2562
02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 2: think tomorrow, Kevin. Not that it's super riveting and newsworthy.

2563
02:05:29,320 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 2: I think a lot of that will come when we

2564
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 2: talked to eventually Carl aarias A Gordon and the general

2565
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:36,120
Speaker 2: manager Chris Ballad, assuming he's still around to talk about

2566
02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:38,880
Speaker 2: the franchise. But tomorrow, I think it'll be interesting just

2567
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:41,200
Speaker 2: because I do want to air the perspective of Riley,

2568
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:44,440
Speaker 2: perspective of Philip, and really Shane, because again, you kind

2569
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 2: of didn't really explain much yesterday regarding the QB decision

2570
02:05:49,120 --> 02:05:51,480
Speaker 2: other than something you would talk to Phil and you know,

2571
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:53,600
Speaker 2: ultimately it is your decision, and I wonder if that

2572
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:55,440
Speaker 2: talk was just telling him, Hey, this is what we're

2573
02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 2: gonna do.

2574
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:57,840
Speaker 1: We probably should note on the saus Gardner front, it

2575
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 1: took a few questions. I think you might ask one

2576
02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 1: of them, James, where Shane finally got to the point

2577
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:06,280
Speaker 1: where he admitted for Sauce Gardner to play in Week eighteen,

2578
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:11,240
Speaker 1: he's got to be really good to go, Like he stressed,

2579
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:14,600
Speaker 1: the really aspect to it. The cults are saying just

2580
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:18,560
Speaker 1: tightness in the calf of why Sauce exited there early

2581
02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:21,040
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. I think there's a lot of

2582
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,880
Speaker 1: PTSD on the brain when I say this, But I

2583
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 1: don't think I need to see Sauce Gardner on the

2584
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 1: field Sunday.

2585
02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:30,720
Speaker 2: I think it's dumb to even entertain the idea. If

2586
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 2: you were tight last Sunday, what's going to stop you

2587
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 2: from being tied this upcoming Sunday? And given just you've

2588
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:39,600
Speaker 2: only practiced one time before jumping into a game over

2589
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:42,640
Speaker 2: the last month or so, it's not worth the risk.

2590
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:45,920
Speaker 2: And when I look at Sauce Gardner, now I know

2591
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:47,960
Speaker 2: he's a good player, has been a great player in

2592
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:50,400
Speaker 2: this league, but part of me is looking at him

2593
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 2: like you're also two first round picks in the flesh.

2594
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm not going to play you in a Week eighteen

2595
02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:57,800
Speaker 2: game when you're worth that much to the franchise. I

2596
02:06:57,800 --> 02:06:59,240
Speaker 2: guess we just pivot to that now.

2597
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 3: Right now, we'll Sauce Gardner plays.

2598
02:07:03,080 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 2: That's the next thing.

2599
02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 3: I'm with you, James, and again, Achilles injuries in this town.

2600
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:13,600
Speaker 3: Gotta be careful with it, calf strains, all of it.

2601
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm antsy about that and interested to hear what Shane

2602
02:07:17,160 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 3: has to say.

2603
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:19,800
Speaker 1: I get the trade package is what it was, but

2604
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't give two You know what's about week eighteen

2605
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:24,480
Speaker 1: of a meaningless game to see Sauce.

2606
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:24,960
Speaker 2: Gardner out there.

2607
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:28,839
Speaker 1: Okay, the first half of this year, the first whatever

2608
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:32,000
Speaker 1: element of the trade didn't work out. Injuries were a

2609
02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:34,920
Speaker 1: massive reason why it did not work out. Move on

2610
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:37,240
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty six. I mean that's kind of where

2611
02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:39,320
Speaker 1: I and guys, Sauce Gardner is going to be one

2612
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 1: of the more critical players to this team next year.

2613
02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 2: Barnune.

2614
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:44,760
Speaker 1: I know that's probably an obvious statement to make, but

2615
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 1: you've got Justin Whally coming off a torn acl the

2616
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:51,160
Speaker 1: rookie third round pick. We'll see about the various ward situation.

2617
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:54,400
Speaker 1: You know where he's at just from a mental standpoint,

2618
02:07:54,720 --> 02:07:57,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't think Kenny Moore of the

2619
02:07:57,080 --> 02:07:59,320
Speaker 1: second maybe had the best season or was the best

2620
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 1: fit this lou Anarroumo defense.

2621
02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:04,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, sauceless presence.

2622
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:06,240
Speaker 1: You know, it goes out saying give him the trade,

2623
02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:08,760
Speaker 1: but well he's gonna be huge, huge fort you.

2624
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:12,600
Speaker 2: Next year, absolutely, which is again, do not sacrifice next

2625
02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:16,120
Speaker 2: year for next week when it means absolutely nothing. And

2626
02:08:16,160 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 2: I will say credit to Philip Rivers. I got a

2627
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:20,440
Speaker 2: lot of great feedback from the story I wrote the

2628
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:24,560
Speaker 2: other day on him and his last start in the NFL,

2629
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:26,800
Speaker 2: and kind of this sentiment of everything we do matters.

2630
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 2: Other though, that resonated a lot. But at the same time,

2631
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:34,280
Speaker 2: I'll change that matters to past tense. It mattered. Now

2632
02:08:34,840 --> 02:08:38,920
Speaker 2: that you've had your swan song, let's exit stage right

2633
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 2: and get to the new stuff. You think he's the

2634
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:44,080
Speaker 2: backup on Sunday, I don't. Actually, I don't see the

2635
02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:47,160
Speaker 2: point in that bringing Seth start or not start. But

2636
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:49,959
Speaker 2: put him on the active roster. Let Philip hold the clipboard,

2637
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 2: and that'd be that. You imagine someone listen in the car,

2638
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:56,680
Speaker 2: who the hell is Seth? South n again man former

2639
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 2: Memphis star not to be confused with the.

2640
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 1: Grizzly, threw one hundred touchdowns in his collegiate career at Memphis.

2641
02:09:02,920 --> 02:09:05,800
Speaker 1: Undrafted free agent was with Jackson only off season. I

2642
02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:08,960
Speaker 1: don't think he's dressed for a game this year, No,

2643
02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:11,440
Speaker 1: I don't believe so. I think spent a brief period

2644
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:13,920
Speaker 1: on their practice squad, but he did work out for

2645
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:16,040
Speaker 1: the team a few weeks ago when they end up

2646
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:19,840
Speaker 1: signing Philip Rivers. He was signed to the practice squad yesterday.

2647
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:22,360
Speaker 1: So again we went over this Joel A. Ericson a

2648
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:25,920
Speaker 1: little bit ago. Four quarterbacks left for the Colts. I

2649
02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:28,760
Speaker 1: assume Anthony Richardson won't be clear due to his vision.

2650
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 1: And then Philip Rivers.

2651
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

2652
02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:35,640
Speaker 1: Does he show up on the sidelines, is he doing that?

2653
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 1: Is he there support or does Philip? Or does the

2654
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 1: wife say hey, I need you back?

2655
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:40,800
Speaker 6: Nah?

2656
02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:42,360
Speaker 2: The wife says, you get one more week with the

2657
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:45,240
Speaker 2: boys and then you get a lifetime with our boys

2658
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:46,120
Speaker 2: and girls.

2659
02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:49,760
Speaker 1: For that matter, would you respect Philip Rivers two months

2660
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:52,120
Speaker 1: later if he took a light detective test and said, guys,

2661
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:53,680
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I just needed a break from the

2662
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:54,200
Speaker 1: ten kids.

2663
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:58,080
Speaker 2: No, I would not respect him. You had ten kids.

2664
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:01,360
Speaker 2: He's your choice. I I don't want to get into.

2665
02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:01,760
Speaker 6: The whole.

2666
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 2: Is a little different than the whole process of the

2667
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:09,440
Speaker 2: decisions you make when you decide to have a kid.

2668
02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:11,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, shout out to people in

2669
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:13,440
Speaker 2: my life who I know you know might have had

2670
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 2: a slip upper too. But DN come on now, you

2671
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:22,160
Speaker 2: love kids. Clearly, I'm not buying that. We talked about

2672
02:10:22,200 --> 02:10:24,040
Speaker 2: this in the media room, Kevin, I am not buying

2673
02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:25,840
Speaker 2: the whole he wants to get away from his family.

2674
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 2: He chose to have that huge family quickly.

2675
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:31,600
Speaker 3: I was going back through some old Chris Ballad audio

2676
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:35,520
Speaker 3: in his post season presser last year, and one of

2677
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 3: the questions that James asked. Chris actually responded to James

2678
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:40,760
Speaker 3: with the questions like he got kids, James, I think

2679
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:44,480
Speaker 3: we're talking about Anthony Richards and the whole press room laugh.

2680
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:46,960
Speaker 3: Everybody knows James don't like kids.

2681
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:52,000
Speaker 2: Man also was not a great answer either. I asked

2682
02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:54,680
Speaker 2: him why nothing got through to Anthony before he got benched,

2683
02:10:54,680 --> 02:10:56,320
Speaker 2: and he said, well, well you have kids, and I'm like,

2684
02:10:56,360 --> 02:10:58,200
Speaker 2: he is not a kid. He has a kid himself.

2685
02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:00,560
Speaker 2: That was Ballard can that ideal?

2686
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 1: He can sound pretty impressive in those post season press conferences,

2687
02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:06,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was wasn't one of the finer moments.

2688
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:10,760
Speaker 1: Butler Creighton. Tonight eight thirty our coverage will begin. Rick

2689
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:13,400
Speaker 1: Carlisle join us tomorrow, will recap it all preview Indiana

2690
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:17,000
Speaker 1: and the Rose Bowl. See everybody tomorrow morning, seven am.

2691
02:11:17,080 --> 02:11:17,640
Speaker 2: Right here of the fan