1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: There are a couple of different sharks that are out there. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 2: I was first introduced to the shark because it was 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: the opus X shark. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: There Artural fun Day and this. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: I've had a couple of these in the past in 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 2: the human ord and I've liked the cigar. While I 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: was down in Florida for a few days, very cool 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: spot in the villages. Yes, my mother lives in the villages. No, 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: she doesn't own a pineapple and a great spot called Garvino's. 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Gar Garveno's Gary a fantastic guy down there, and they 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: had a box of the Arturo fun Day sharks, number 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: seventy seven, the Onieha and I said, yeah, I'll take 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: that please. 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: It's tea, drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Moloy. 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: This is a five and seven eighths by sixty four, 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: which means it's five and seven eights inches long. Tea 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: always makes Stringers mulloy laugh. And the ring age is 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: a sixty four. That's the diameter there's are or how 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: thick it is around me again with the laughter. Now 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: this cigar, this shark, there are a couple of sharks 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: that Artural Fronte does in the line, I actually had 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: a you do a baby shark? Yeah, I see what 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: you did there. Everybody hates you now because that's now 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: in their heads. So if I have it right, there's 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: the AE number seventy seven, which is this right here. 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: There's the sand shark, which is a cameroon wrapper which 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: I have not actually seen. There's the front Day fun 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: dae Opus X shark, and then there's the Don Carlos sharks. 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 2: So this one is the oniejo right here. Connecticut Broadleaf rapper. 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: I love Connecticut Broadleaf. Now, as for that sixty four 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: ring gauge that's at the foot, this is a box 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: press going into a torpedo. That is not an easy 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: shape to roll. Guys, that's some unbelievable characteristic. There are 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: some unbelievable art in the cigar making. So where you 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: are in the mouthfeel, you're not going to be at 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: a sixty four, So don't get overwhelmed by that and 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a bad mouthfeel. 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: Not at all. 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: It's it's actually quite wonderful. It is, admittedly because where 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: I think you would hold on to it's it's the 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: box as it turns into that torpedo, and it's a 43 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: little more squared as a box, so it's a little 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: otter in the hand. But I'll tell you what that wrapper. 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: The look, the feel, fingers molloy, that is a freaking 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: thing of beauty. 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: It has excellent hand feel. Like you don't mind it. No, 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't at all. 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: You're further down, like you're down like in the second 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: third of the cigar where you're holding it. 51 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, where do you usually hold your cigars? 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm a little more like end of band. Oh, I 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: find myself right there. So right there, it's at that 54 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: spot where it's it's kind of morphing into the torpedo. 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: So it is a little awkward because it's like on 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: half the finger that you're you're feeling the box press 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: and half the finger no box press. 58 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, to me, the hand feel is very nice 59 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 3: and is a nice bit haft to this cigar. 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: Uh, we just lit this. We're just in the first 61 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: three I'm just lighting it. 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: You're already way at You seem to have had a 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: day because you walked in and said, are you ready? Cats, 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't even I ain't got no time for your 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: gibber jabber. 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on my fifth Old Milwaukee. Oh god, I'm 67 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: not on my fifth Old Milwaukee. I don't even think 68 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: I've had five Old Milwaukee's in my entire life. 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: That's not true. That's just a flat out line. No, 70 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm from Michigan. It's it's it's uh. 71 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: It's all about the uh, the cold brewd Baby, the 72 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 3: fire brew Baby, the cold fire brew, the cold fire brew. 73 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: The Oh my gosh, how how am I? How am 74 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: I blanking on the the Detroit Beer? 75 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: Is it? Is? 76 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: It? 77 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: Is it Schlitz? No? Is it? Is it? Blats? No? 78 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Is it? Uh? Is it? Lining? Coogle DROs? That's it? 79 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: I meant Stros fire brood Baby. Is that what they said? 80 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: It's sure, at least they that's what they said in 81 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: uh the early nineties when I drank Stros. 82 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: Should we get? Could you even find some anymore? 83 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: I think they were bought out, unfortunately by whoever owns 84 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: Miller Light now. 85 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: Miller lt. Miller Light owns Miller Light. I'm pretty sure 86 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: they did. They don't have a parent company. This is 87 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: a cigar that you could convince yourself, no listening. 88 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: You could convince yourself to do a V cut on 89 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: this because it comes to a torpedo. You could say, 90 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with a V cut, right, that's the 91 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: cut into the cigar, so you get a little bit 92 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: more cigar length to it. I went with the straight cut, 93 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: and I cut it shallow. I can always add more, 94 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: I can always cut more. You can't put it back there, 95 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: and for me, that's a good spot to be. The 96 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: rappers gorgeous, it feels fantastic. There's it's not a grit, 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 2: there's just the real natural feel of the leaf going 98 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: on in there. The heft of the cigar is absolutely 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: right on. So this is a USA, Connecticut broad leaf, Dominican. 100 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: In the binder, in the filler, this is a full cigar. 101 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: We will not even think about thinking, well, maybe it's 102 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: a touch medium. Now this is a full cigar. But 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: what this cigar is is an absolute pleasure. When I 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: tell you, they happen to have at Garvinos gar Garvinos, 105 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: they had a couple of boxes. I could have bought 106 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: more than one box of this. I just didn't want 107 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: to be that guy who's like, oh take it all, 108 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: shop keep Why not? 109 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: I you're never gonna see these people that's not true. 110 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: My mother lives down there. I go to visit. That's 111 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: the place I go. You're never gonna see these people again. 112 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: Stop it. 113 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: You and I are gonna go. Okay, we're gonna do 114 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: a tour of the village. Oh, just try to twist 115 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: my arm to take me to the villages. 116 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: You really want to go to the villages. I would 117 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: not want to go to the villages a golf cart. 118 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: Have you seen the people there? Have you seen? Have 119 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: you seen the people there? The village people, the villages? 120 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: Is this such a fascinating mix of people. 121 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: There are definitely people in their seventies, eighties, nineties, full 122 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: retirement walkers, the whole thing. And then there are people 123 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: who are fifty seven are like, screw it, let's retire early. 124 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: This is how we live now. 125 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: And they go to the town square, right, they get 126 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: a bunch of town squares and they listen to live 127 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: music and they drink beer and they do their thing, 128 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: and they're they're like living this very It's a life 129 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: detached from life, I would say. But they're like, people 130 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: adore it down there. 131 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Is it really like del Boca Vista? 132 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: No, No, it's it's so much better. You think of 133 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: it as this place that you're just waiting to die. 134 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie. Some people definitely are wow 135 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: and they'll tell you. They'll tell you they're waiting to die. 136 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: But like, the restaurants are full and people are hanging out. 137 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 2: I went into one sargar lounge. It was called Holy 138 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: Smokes shmok yes, and you walk in and it's live music, 139 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 2: kind of dance club, and then you gotta kind of 140 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: go around the bar to get to where they have 141 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: seventeen seats and you can smoke a cigar a small humidor, 142 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: but a good humid or, and it's like okay, And 143 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: there were like sixty seventy people in there, just hanging out, 144 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: having a drink, dancing. 145 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Up, waiting for you to get there. 146 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: Oh well, the way won't be much longer. But I 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: will say part of that lifestyle does not appeal to 148 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: me because my mother in law lives in the fifty 149 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: five and older community half of the year. She's a 150 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: snowbird right down in the Fort Myers area, and everybody 151 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: in the community knows everybody else's business. 152 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: So that might happen, Yeah, that might that might be 153 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: the case. The shark number seventy seven. The Aye Hill 154 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: Yanye Hill Reserve is what it's called. Do you want 155 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: to grab your notebooks? What'd you eat today? What did 156 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: you drink today? All going to affect the palette. Humidity 157 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: has come back here to Indianapolis, Indiana, where we record, 158 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: then break the scar up the third's first third, second, third, 159 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: final third. Write down your flavors. What are you getting 160 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: from each third of the cigar. Then when you try 161 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: the cigar a month from now, six months from now, 162 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: you do it again. You'll be able to check your notes, 163 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: compare and get your through line. Really see where you 164 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: are in the first third of the cigar fingers moloy 165 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: aside from burning a little awkwardly. 166 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, how are you with us? A little bit of pepper, 167 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of nuttiness. That's about it right now. 168 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: I'm not getting any sweetness from the stick. 169 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: See that's interesting because I think that the cigar is 170 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: actually a naturally sweeter note which is kind of strange 171 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: that that it that it provides, that that it brings 172 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: that because you wouldn't think from a from a that 173 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: that broad leaf that you would get that. 174 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: But I love Connecticut broad leaf. 175 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 2: Or you wouldn't think that from the fullness of the cigar, 176 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: you would get that there's a lot of worthwhile flavor 177 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: in here. 178 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: We are going to be talking about this. 179 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: You'll see the full review over at Eat, Drink, Smoke, 180 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: Show dot com. That's a spicy meat the ball. 181 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,239 Speaker 1: That's a terrible way to start this because it was predictable. 182 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: Oh you could have said it's cloudy with a chance 183 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: of meatballs. You're right, should we start again? 184 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: No? 185 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: Tea, drink, smoke, come, Tony Katz? That right there. 186 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: As America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers molloy, Uh needed some 187 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: some food to enjoy it with the day. Uh, so, 188 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: uh made some meatballs. These are ground beef meatballs. And 189 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: and I start with a a question, which is does 190 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: the meatball make any sense? 191 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Fingers maloy. 192 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: If you're already got ground beef and you're already kind 193 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: of kind of jushing it up with. 194 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: Why not just make a hamburger? Because sometimes you like 195 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: to play with your food. Oh is that right? Yes? 196 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: And a lot of times it's fun to just roll 197 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: your meat on the dinner table. 198 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: See, now you're just being that guy. I'm gonna dish 199 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: you a plate. Oh, Wow, that's wonderful. 200 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: So first things first, or do you want to do it? 201 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: I'll do it. 202 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: You know what, I'll talk. Okay, you talk, all right, 203 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: you you do it. The plates are there under the 204 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: under the bread. So we've got we we've got the meatballs, 205 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: the parmesan cheese, we've got a little bit of the 206 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: uh we got we got the bread, and uh we 207 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: got some some marinara sauce. So here's how all of 208 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: this comes down. 209 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so very much. 210 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: With the fork there, I think meet people make meatballs 211 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: with cheese. 212 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: I think that happens very often. 213 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: And there's a whole idea about how you create a 214 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: meatball that is still moist and cheese. 215 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Does that one meatball for me? Is fine? No, no, 216 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: no sauce just yet. 217 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: And then there's the conversation about are there breadcrumbs in 218 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: your meatball? Because you want to thank you so much, 219 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: because you want to keep it all together, right, you're 220 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: trying to keep all of that together. Right there. Here's 221 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: how we do it here in the Kasada Cats when 222 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: the kids are around. And this is gonna be very strange. 223 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: It's parmesan cheese right there. Look, it's the fancy Parmesan 224 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: cheese too. So my kids are kosher. 225 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm not. 226 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: My wife is not. But so when we make meatballs 227 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 2: for the family, we make them with no cheese. That 228 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: is a difficult thing to do. Difficult thing to do 229 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: without cheese and still try and engage some moisture. So 230 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: here is this meatball right here. This is the ground 231 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: beef and we got this from Defiance in northern Indiana, 232 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic farm up there. The dried onions, We've got 233 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: garlic powder. There's four eggs in here. There is three 234 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: quarters of a cup of ketchup salt pepper, dried parsley, 235 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: and dried basil. So that's what we have in here. 236 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: And two to three cups of shredded bread. Shredded bread, yes, 237 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: not bread crumbs. 238 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: You can use bread crumbs. We use shredded bread. 239 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: This is just mixed baked three seventy five for thirty minutes. 240 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: I had to read the thing there. And so my 241 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: question tea, you you got cold. 242 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I feel for you. Cold meatball is better 243 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: than no meatball at all. When I do it, I 244 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 3: do not like a meatball that doesn't taste like meat. 245 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: And sometimes when people are making them it. 246 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: Tastes like all the other stuff, or it comes out mushy. 247 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: This tastes still like ground beef, and the flavor then 248 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 2: comes through it. 249 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: I agree that. 250 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: If it had cheese in it, it would have a 251 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: little more moisture. But as a matter of flavor, maybe 252 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm more used to it. I kind of grew up 253 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: this way. My mother was kosher growing up, so I 254 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: grew up this way. It's where I'm at. So this 255 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: is a kosher Italian meatball, is how we would describe this. 256 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: So first things, first, fingers, where are you on this? 257 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: It's wonderful and I've never uttered this sentence in my 258 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: entire life. The basil really does something for this. 259 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: You don't put basil on your meatball. I don't put 260 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: basil on anything. I I low basil here. You gonna 261 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: get your basil planting for the new house. Get your basil. 262 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: What I do. 263 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: What I like to do is I like to carry 264 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: basil with me in my pocket every time I go 265 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: to a gas station to pick up some hot dogs. 266 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: Smart it's a little sprinkling yeah for color. Do you now? 267 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: I started with a question does the meatball make sense? 268 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: Because I mean, all right, if you're doing spaghetti meatballs 269 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: the classic, sure, but does the meatball make sense? 270 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it like one of those foods that 271 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: is an afterthought these days. 272 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: If you got ground beef, you're gonna make burgers, You're 273 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: already done well. 274 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: I think for a lot of Americans, if they're doing meatballs, 275 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: it's spaghetti meatballs. And I we really don't do meatballs 276 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: in the house. We we add ground beef to our 277 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: spaghetti sauce and call it a day CAUSEI bowl of 278 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: knies exactly. So this actually reminds me of meat loaf 279 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: that we make, but we don't put basel in it. 280 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong. 281 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: I just so meat loaf I think makes no sense 282 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: because I think it's too I think it's too big, 283 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: it's too much. I like the idea of the meatball 284 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: because you can better portion out what it is that 285 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: you want. Now, then someone might say the meat loaf 286 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: is actually something that has a little more juiciness to it, 287 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: because you've got this whole thing here. 288 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: You have to use a beef with fat. 289 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: If you use lean beef for a meatball, for a 290 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: meat loaf, truly, I think so. 291 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: For a burger that doesn't make any sense if you're 292 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: not at eighty twenty. 293 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: Right, seventy thirty is a lot of fat but also 294 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: less expensive. But if you're not at eighty twenty, I 295 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: have no idea how you think you're going to get 296 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: flavor that permeates that's worthwhile, and a two that that 297 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: kind of creates salvation to make sense for the. 298 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: Mouth, I could see that. 299 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: One of the things we do when it comes to 300 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: meat loaf is we make a lot of many meat loafs. 301 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: Instead of one big loaf, just have eight or nine 302 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: smaller little meat loafs. Meatball like a meatball, so you 303 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: are making meatball, but it's in loaf form and not 304 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: meat ball meat. Yeah, meat blowth. But it's tricky when 305 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: you do that because you risk drying out the loaf 306 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: because they're a lot smaller, so you have to really 307 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: monitor it to that end. 308 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: In the way we do it, we do not cook 309 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: the meatball in the sauce or as Italians would say, gravy, 310 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: or as gravy something you would afterwards and it would 311 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: still be sauce for a meatball. Italians let me know, 312 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: they'll let you know. I should ask my wife. She should, 313 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: there will be a reprimand she's a time. The drying 314 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: out thing is very real, but we do it separately. 315 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: And part of what makes this recipe work is that 316 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: if your oven is right and you're paying attention to 317 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: the of and it won't dry out, and you get 318 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: the moist of the meatball, but you get a little 319 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: bit of crust and crunch on the outside of the meatball, 320 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: which to me is everything. That texture part is probably 321 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: everything in the meatball. The texture is not right, flavors 322 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: are meaningless. It doesn't matter what you do. That's my 323 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: that's my take. So I decided today we were making 324 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: we're making meatballs. But in the main, would you rather 325 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: have a meatball? Would rather just turn that into a burger? 326 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: I would turn it into a burger? 327 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I am not. I would say I'm meatball curious. 328 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Is that? Yes? Right, you. 329 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: Mention the possibility of meatballs in particular day, I'd be like, yeah, 330 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: you know what, that would hit the spot. So but so, 331 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: how often do you find yourself having the meatballs from 332 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: the meatball. 333 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: Is a conversation of presentation. If I'm looking for a 334 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: different type of meal experience, I go meatball. If I'm 335 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: looking for something a little more homey, a little more 336 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: sit down. If I'm looking for something that everybody can 337 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 2: grab as they will, I do it as a burger. 338 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: It's really about who's gonna be at the table, and 339 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: are you sitting at the table? Is are there paper 340 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: plates or is there is there a better plate? That's honestly, 341 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: that's the difference right there. Eat Drink, smoke it is 342 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: your cigar bourbon, foody extravaganza. 343 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. 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However it 352 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: is you want to know, not the actual It's not 353 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: a pet. 354 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I will for a second. 355 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: Good to go Defiancebeef dot Com d e f I 356 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: a n CE Defiancebeef dot Com Defiance Beef Company since 357 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: nineteen forty four. 358 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: I wont spectacular. 359 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: I wonder how big of a freezer you need if 360 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: you're gonna order an entire cop You know the. 361 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: Chess fraze, Well, we're about to find out because you 362 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: know the chess fraser I have. 363 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm about to uh, I'm about to get another chess raiser. 364 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: Good for you. 365 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: Oh you haven't so, so they sent some samples. Okay, 366 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna be doing some great work together and send 367 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: some samples. 368 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: You haven't pictures up yet. No, we've already had all 369 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: of it. 370 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 2: The strips, the surlines, the tenderline, the background beef is 371 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: Defiance Beef. Yes, that's gonna be. Oh, you gotta take 372 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: the bag with you. Okay, before you I've got a 373 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: bag for you smoking from our Turo Flentey. This is 374 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: the Ayejo Shark, number seventy seven Maduro. 375 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Five and seven eighths by sixty four. 376 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: It is a box press into a torpedo Connecticut broad 377 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: leaf in the wrapper Dominican, the binder, and the filler. 378 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: We're really still in the first third of this because 379 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: we were eating a meatball there and that recipe will 380 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: be there at eatringsmokeshow dot com. This is an absolute 381 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: delight of a cigar, A delight of a cigar, Fingers Maloy. 382 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: I know you had a little trouble keeping yours lit, 383 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: but I think that's because we were doing other things 384 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: and we left to. 385 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: B for a little bit. But it shouldn't be. I've 386 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: smoked a couple. 387 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: It should not be a problem. I'm sure it won't be. 388 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 3: The draw is nice and it's one of those things too. 389 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: When you've got this, you know the way you cut 390 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: the cigar and how it's tapered. You can kind of 391 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: monkey with the draw sure, and as you know, I 392 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: always say cut three times, measure once. 393 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: That's who you are. 394 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 3: But I got the right place to cut it to 395 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: where that draw is. It's a little tight, but I 396 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: like it like that, and when I have not set 397 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: it down for a length of time, lots of nice, 398 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: pleasant smoke coming. 399 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: Down because of that torpedo. Wherever you cut, you can 400 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 2: really create some intensity for that draw, really bringing it in, 401 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: intensifying those flavors there. 402 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: Fingers molloy, is this in your humid or? 403 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: And I must say it's not an easy cigar to find. 404 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: If you go online, you'll find it back ordered in 405 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: a lot of places on average. Is this in your 406 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: humid or for twenty six dollars a stick? 407 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: My answers yes. The answer is yes. I have to 408 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: smoke a little bit more of it. You do that 409 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: so far. 410 00:20:54,200 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: I'm really enjoying it, though, But when you say rare, like, 411 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: how often do you think you could walk into a 412 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 3: store and actually come across one of these? 413 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: There were I was in Florida, Garvinos gar Garvinos, and 414 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: there were three I think they had. I mean, I 415 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: don't want to out them or anything like that. It's 416 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: a bit late for that they had. It's Garvinos dot com. 417 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: By the way, they had three boxes, and I would 418 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: argue that those are. 419 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: The only three boxes I have seen. 420 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: In a long, long long time as a box. 421 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: I do not see it, Okay, I absolutely don't see 422 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: You asked me about it being in my human door. 423 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: When you get to twenty six thirty dollars a stick, 424 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: I really start thinking about it. This has been very 425 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: good so far, so I'll be interested to see as 426 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: I'm not even into the second third of the cigar yet. 427 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: But you you're a fan, there's not even a question, 428 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: so what notes? We've only talked about the notes. What 429 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: so I think you ask a fine question. 430 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: There. There is a a. 431 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: A absolute sweetness that comes to me. For the cigar, 432 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: you had mentioned that you get pepper, there is a 433 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: spice that rests on the middle tongue. But in the 434 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: dark chocolate, not overly bitter. You had said a little nutty. 435 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: I think that is very very correct, and I would 436 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: argue that the the nutty is. 437 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: We often talk about like a nutty cream. 438 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: That happens like if you were to take a we 439 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: actually have if you were taking a handful of cashews, 440 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: just chew on them. That texture, that flavor, that feel 441 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: is a little bit of that. 442 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: I happen to like that quite quite a bit. I 443 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: I really do. 444 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: And so that's that's what I'm getting all the way, 445 00:22:59,280 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: all the way around. 446 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: I agree with you on all that. 447 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: Except for me, there is a chocolate, but it's it's 448 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: it's not a dark chocolate. For me, it's a hint 449 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 3: of chocolate and it's not dark, almost like a milk chocolate. 450 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, I'm not here to tell you how to live. 451 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm not scared to tell you that you're wrong. 452 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: But again, you know, we've had meatballs, We've had Puerto 453 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 3: Rican bread. 454 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think them. I don't think Porto Rican 455 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: bread is gonna mess it. You don't think you don't 456 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: think it would mess with the palette? Is it a 457 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: creaminess or do I still have some bread in my molar? 458 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: You might have You might have molar bread, which is 459 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: nothing more than a snack for later. 460 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: Fingers will Why it is. 461 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: Time for news of the week, man, I'm telling you, 462 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: tony uh. ESPN has really been in the news, dominating 463 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: the news in the last week. They've kind of consolidating 464 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: their power. First, they announced that they were going to 465 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: offer a direct to consumer streaming service that will cost 466 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 3: twenty ninety nine a month. It will include the ESPN's 467 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 3: they're their full suite of networks. They've also tightened their 468 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: relationship with the NFL UH through a deal that includes 469 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: ownership of the NFL network and new licensing deals. The 470 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: NFL will now have a ten stake in ESPN. 471 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: That's nuts. 472 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, And to take it a step further, they also 473 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: ESPN reached in agreement with the WWE UH to stream 474 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: special WWE events like WrestleMania and the Royal Rumbull According 475 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: to CNN. 476 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: Now isn't that is that part controversial? 477 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: Did ESPN have a problem with wrestling like back in 478 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: the day or recently? Maybe I've got that wrong. But 479 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: the the the buy in from the NFL. This also 480 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: is Fox Sports buying in to the entire Indiecar series. 481 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: Fox Sports, which now has as Indie Car, bought into 482 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: the series. 483 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: Penske. Penske Entertainment, which bought the entire series. 484 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 2: The Holman's bought the track here in Indianapolis, the Indianapolis 485 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: Motor Speedway, which if you have never been, is a 486 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: site to behold and race day is surreal. They bought 487 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 2: into it. So why just cover the sport when you 488 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: can own it as well? Since you're already giving it 489 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: the lift, you might as well take advantage of getting 490 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: something on the other side. 491 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: And is that good or bad for us? 492 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: I think it's bad for us because you see where 493 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: this is going and you know you've got these huge 494 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: let's use the NFL for example. NFL has all these 495 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: huge deals with you know, whether it's CBS or NBC, 496 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: and Peacock and of course Fox, well, all these streaming 497 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: services are starting to come into play and become players 498 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: in the NFL. When you know, when you're looking at 499 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 3: Netflix and Amazon Prime, ESPN is probably looking at this like, hey, 500 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: we need to create some sort of partnership with the 501 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: NFL to be able to still be guaranteed a player 502 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: when it comes to the NFL, because you've got all 503 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: these huge you know, Apple megan into football at something. 504 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: But now the question is will they will Will the 505 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: NFL continue those deals or will they say everything is 506 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: going to be on the broadcast that we offer right 507 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: broadcast TV CBS and NBC of Fox and ESPN and that's. 508 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 3: It could be, or could the other way around where 509 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: CBS and Fox and NBC have to worry that they 510 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: have to cough up the kind of money that Apple 511 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: can cough up and that Amazon can cough up, and 512 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: we may have a total market dominated by streaming services 513 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 3: for the NFL instead of network television, say five six 514 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: years down the road, I. 515 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: Wonder can the NFL get away with that? Even still 516 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: in today's world? Can you get away with not being 517 00:26:59,040 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: on podcasts? 518 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: That's a that is a question. 519 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 2: There's a story about a guy who retired and I 520 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: don't know about others, but you know you work towards 521 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: retirement and one of the most awful stories you hear 522 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: is that someone retires at sixty five and passes at 523 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: sixty seven, and you're like, what was the what that? 524 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: It just kills you. I'm not saying they didn't have 525 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: a good life throughout. 526 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that the idea of retirement is now 527 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: you're able to relax and really enjoy. And certainly it 528 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: has led me in my life to say I'm not 529 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: interested in waiting. 530 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm interested in doing things while I. 531 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: Can as I can, maybe with the idea that I 532 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: don't actually see myself in any type of retirement mode. 533 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I could stop everything tomorrow. I 534 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: could stop everything right now. But there's a story here. 535 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: It's Eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Kat's that is Fingers Maloy. 536 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 2: You find everything at Eatdrinksmoke show dot com. The story 537 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: would who was over there at Yahoo Finance is about 538 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: a fifty seven year old He's like, I got my number. 539 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: Everyone has a different number. I got my number. I'm 540 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: going to retire, hosts to barbecue and and has the 541 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: friends and neighbors. 542 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: Everyone's basically the same age. 543 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: We are retiring, and he says, guys retiring, And it 544 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: was going around asking you know, what do you have 545 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 2: in savings, and people discuss the fact I've got two 546 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. I've got five hundred thousand dollars after 547 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: working for thirty years. And he was asked and he said, 548 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: I started early, and I put a two point three 549 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: million in my four oh one k and I get 550 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: a pension. And his friends got upset with him and said, 551 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: it's not fair. Now I don't have a pension. Some 552 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: people do have a pension. They took a job that 553 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: gives them a pension. I can't get angry with them 554 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: for it. I'm not angry with them for it. Sometimes 555 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: people in the public sector where I'm paying for the pension, 556 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: and I hear them complain. Yeah, I don't want to 557 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: hear them complain. I don't want to hear that at all. 558 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: But I don't get angry with people for having a pension. 559 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: But people made choices and they decide to spend their 560 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: money in certain ways. If you saved your money in 561 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: a certain way, well that's that good for you. The 562 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: amount I've tried to instill in my kids if you 563 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: live differently than your friends, now, you'll live differently from 564 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: your friends later. Building that financial model, here's how you 565 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: say here where some basic investments are and. 566 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Things that you do not touch. 567 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: You just keep throwing the money in, don't pay any attention, 568 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: just keep doing it. Let compounding be your friend. Absolutely, 569 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: let it be your friend. But the idea of being 570 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: angry with somebody for saving more money. 571 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: Than you, how they were never your friend to begin with. 572 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you should be happy that that's where your 573 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: friend is financially and they made responsible decisions, particularly when 574 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: they were younger. And what that does a lot of 575 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: times when you declare something like that is it puts 576 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: a mirror in the face of the people you're talking 577 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: to because they hear that information and they immediately think 578 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: of not only their own retirement portfolio, but all the 579 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: decisions that they made up to that point, making them 580 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: realize possibly that they made some mistakes. Where you've got 581 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: your friend here who has it sounds like they were 582 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: very responsible and made a lot of good decisions, maybe 583 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: particularly when they were younger, Like you said, because when 584 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 3: it comes to saving for retirement, time is your friend. Yes, 585 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: if you could save thirty forty thousand dollars somehow before 586 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: the age of thirty and not touch it. It just 587 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: like grow over time. When you're sixty five, you could 588 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: have several thousand dollars. 589 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: You do the math upbout yourself exactly. 590 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: I will tell you that there are a lot of 591 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: people listening right now who are gonna hear two point 592 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: three million to say I wish and two points and 593 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: here two point three million, and say, how do you 594 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: think you're going to retire in two point three million dollars? 595 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: What the what the heck is wrong with you? Two 596 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: point three million? It's not enough to maybe do the 597 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: things you want to do for other people. 598 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: It's fine. 599 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: I don't judge the number right. Everybody's got a different number. 600 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: I won't lie. 601 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: That is not enough for me for what I want 602 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: to do, how I want to do things, how I 603 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: want to be. 604 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. That's why I started. And I'll pack a 605 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: farm and the cash it's just it's just rolling in nice, 606 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: uh for me. 607 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: I think a lot of it depends on if you 608 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: have your home paid off. If you have your home 609 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 3: paid off, maybe that number doesn't have to be so large. 610 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't see I don't think that. 611 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: I don't look at paying off the home as anything 612 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: that matters anymore. I understand that that was the dream, 613 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: that was the moment, the big party and you burn 614 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: your mortgage. 615 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: Nope. 616 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: Now I admit that my mortgage was achieved when the 617 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: rates were crazy low. 618 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: So I'm fortunate in that regard. 619 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: It is better for me just to pay it off 620 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: and not think about it. 621 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: It's just an expense. 622 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: It's better for me to take the dollars, not put 623 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: it towards the mortgage, but put it towards investments that 624 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: are gonna have a far greater return then not having 625 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: the mortgage payment. 626 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 3: No, I understand what you're saying, but for a lot 627 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: of people, the mortgage payment is the single biggest expense 628 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: that they have in a particular month, and to be 629 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: able to wipe that off of the books is really significant. 630 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 3: So if you're able to do that, yes, yes, So 631 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: if you're able to do that, and you may be 632 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: able to re examine and what that number is for retirement. 633 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: I can't understand the people. The amount of people who 634 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: have a car payment of around one thousand dollars, the 635 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: number is freaking mind boggling. 636 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: How can you do that? One thousand dollars, eight hundred 637 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: dollars car payment, that's what new cars cost now, eight 638 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: hundred dollars car payment. That's that is insane. 639 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: It's it is amazing to see how expensive cars have 640 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: gotten over there, especially since COVID. You know, I've got 641 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: a daughter who's going to be turning sixteen here in October, 642 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: and looking at used car prices, it's you're looking at 643 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 3: ten year old vehicles that I'm not talking high end vehicles. 644 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: You know, it could be a Buick or a Honda 645 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: or something like that. And you look at it and 646 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: they still want fifteen thousand dollars for a ten year 647 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 3: old vehicle. It's like, my goodness, how are people able 648 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 3: to afford that, let alone a new car? You know, 649 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 3: sixty seventy thousand dollars with that one twelve hundred dollars 650 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 3: a month car payment. 651 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: And now people do six and seven year terms, right, Yeah, 652 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: that's what they're doing. 653 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: Eighty four months, eighty four months. Yeah, it happens. 654 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: And then you know, you sit back and you think 655 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: to yourself, someday, it used to be someday maybe I'll 656 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: pay this car off, But now I think people have 657 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: switched their mindset, and a lot of people are leasing 658 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: and think, I'm always gonna have a car payment, So 659 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 3: I'll lease, have a lower car payment, and then every 660 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: two or three years I'll get another car, which is. 661 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: Why if you own a business, it makes that a 662 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: little bit easier. But don't go to us for your 663 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: accounting advice. Don't don't do it. Where did you get 664 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: this advice? Oh from the radio. Now now they smoke cigars, 665 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: they drink bourbon, and they give accounting advice. And so 666 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: that's where that's where I got all my investment tips. No, 667 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 2: do not, do not listen to us. 668 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: But these people were angry. 669 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: So it's jealousy, of course it is, but it's foreign 670 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: to me. It has always been foreign to me to 671 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: be jealous of other people's success, whether it's wealth or career. 672 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 3: You may roll your eyes sometimes like how did that happen? 673 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 3: But to be jealous about it, you know, you don't 674 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 3: know what work went into it. 675 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, you will definitely say how does that guy have 676 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 2: that much money? He's a moron that you said. 677 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 3: I get it, But I just I'm happy for people 678 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 3: in their success. And I think back to listen, what 679 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: I love to have three million dollars when I retire. 680 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 3: Is probably not gonna happen. But if I would have 681 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: made smarter decisions in my twenties, maybe I would have 682 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: thousands of dollars when I retire. You keep saying thousands 683 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: and thousands of dollars. 684 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: That's the goal. Oh, that's the dream. Yeah. That in 685 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: the villages. 686 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 2: I think the people in the villages that their retirement 687 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: worked out pretty well. 688 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. 689 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: I mean, certainly there's all sorts of economic ranges there. 690 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: But because I was there just a week or so 691 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 2: ago visiting my mother, and there are those those golf 692 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: carts are not cheap. 693 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: Neither sanka. I hate to break it to you, but 694 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: no one's drinking sank anymore. I don't know if i'd 695 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: about these things. It's it's straight to folders. Right in 696 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: the villages, it's all about the play for Christal. That's 697 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: so true.