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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: Oh hello there, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer right

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Speaker 2: over there with a very special guest on the hotline.

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Speaker 3: He is an investigative reporter for The Daily Signal and

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Speaker 3: the host of the Tony Kennett Cast week nights right

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Speaker 3: after our program here at ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Do I understand this correctly? Five hundred episodes? Now, tonis whoa?

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Speaker 4: Tonight's the five hundredth That's right, they haven't thrown us

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Speaker 4: off the air.

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Speaker 1: We're excited. Congratulations, man, dude, that's a heck of a

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Speaker 1: run five.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate it. And again, it is all due

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Speaker 4: to you too. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I will lay it at your feet.

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Speaker 4: You're the ones who made the decision to upend whatever

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Speaker 4: it was I thought I was doing and make this

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Speaker 4: my living hell.

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Speaker 1: So I really appreciate you. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Tony, was that your drone that shut down the

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Speaker 3: Il Paso airport earlier?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 4: So again we're starting to get further away from things

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Speaker 4: I can no longer reveal on air. The United States

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Speaker 4: Army has got some really cool ways at shooting down drones.

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Speaker 4: Some of them are electronic warfare countermeasures that I have,

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Speaker 4: let's say, somewhat close experience with, and that was really awesome.

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Speaker 4: The United States said, hey, these cartel drones that have

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Speaker 4: been in our airspace all this time that Biden thought

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Speaker 4: were weather balloons and I don't know, flying ice cream cones.

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Speaker 4: The United States under President Trump decided.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna let him fly anymore. Shoot him down.

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Speaker 4: And so the guys over down at Fort Bliss pointed

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Speaker 4: the fancy lasers and the radio towers and also one

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Speaker 4: really cool surface to air missile at some of the drones,

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Speaker 4: and I corumba, Now there are falling cartel drone parts

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Speaker 4: over Mexico.

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Speaker 3: Good because it feels like that line in Blues Brothers

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Speaker 3: Illinois Nazis. I hate Illinoid Nazis. Well, I hate Mexican

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Speaker 3: cartel drones. Tony, shoot him down.

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Speaker 1: I agree, shoot every one of them down.

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Speaker 4: I would love to say that it's just the United

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Speaker 4: States Army that is lasting them out of the sky,

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Speaker 4: but nope, the United States Navy has a lot of

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Speaker 4: that same equipment over in.

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Speaker 1: The Middle East. It has been being moved into position.

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Speaker 4: A second aircraft carrier now being dispatched over to Centcom.

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Speaker 4: It's a fun time. I mean, all of this Ukrainian

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Speaker 4: and drone and Russian drone blustering the US of a

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Speaker 4: still kicks butt.

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Speaker 2: Baby.

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Speaker 3: I swear to god, I thought you were going to

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Speaker 3: say just some redneck in Texas was blasting it out

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Speaker 3: of the sky, because.

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Speaker 1: I would believe you if you did so.

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Speaker 4: At there's a funny thing about that. So in one

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Speaker 4: of the contracting agencies there is a redneck in a

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Speaker 4: rather high up position who proposes really wild ways to

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Speaker 4: combat things like drones. And it's basically everything short of

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Speaker 4: launching a cores light at mock f at any drone

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Speaker 4: from his pumpkin can launcher.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, and I don't. I'm just

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Speaker 2: off the top of my head here. Why would the

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Speaker 2: Mechigan cartels want to mess with the US military? This,

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Speaker 2: from what I understand, is a popular corridor for how

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Speaker 2: they get their product in. I'm not saying they're doing

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Speaker 2: it as successful anymore, but why in the world would

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Speaker 2: Mexican cartels when to f in any way, shape or

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Speaker 2: form with the United States military When you're talking about

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Speaker 2: these drones and you said something that actually I had

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Speaker 2: heard before that these drones are kind of normal. This

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Speaker 2: isn't the first time this kind of thing has happened.

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Speaker 2: Maybe can you, just like from a thirty thousand foot view,

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Speaker 2: explain what's going on?

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Speaker 4: I set sorry, I thought that was a little thirty

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Speaker 4: thousand nice, nice little pun there.

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Speaker 1: Lockheed Martin sent a little check to your account. Sorry.

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Speaker 4: As far as drones are concerned, most drones are not

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Speaker 4: at all focused on the dropping of payloads and the

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Speaker 4: pointing of explosive things at Somali houses. Instead, they are

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Speaker 4: more focused on observation and reconnaissance. So the cartels do

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Speaker 4: not use drones to deliver Amazon packages or to fire things,

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Speaker 4: at least that we don't mean. I guess they could

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Speaker 4: tape a Roman candle to one of them, But as

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Speaker 4: far as what we know, they're just trying to observe

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Speaker 4: border patrol and their routes that they are taking in

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Speaker 4: patrolling those particular corridors like through New Mexico, Arizona and

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Speaker 4: of course Texas, And as soon as border patrol.

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Speaker 1: Moves away, then it's all right, you know.

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Speaker 4: Call down to Team Echo Taco and have them smuggle

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Speaker 4: some people across the border. And that's what they use

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Speaker 4: them for. So no, you don't get to observe inside

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Speaker 4: of the United States air space the movement of those

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Speaker 4: on our side of the border, especially not Fort Bliss,

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Speaker 4: especially not near the first Armor Division. How about no,

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Speaker 4: and like, I agree with you Andig I think that

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Speaker 4: the Redneck should have taken care of this.

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Speaker 1: With their own drones.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Did you know that that some of the most drones

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Speaker 4: in the United States are purchased by the hillbilly enthusiast

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Speaker 4: community and they do some wildly cool stuff with them.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's talking about me.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I belong on the hillbilly enthusiastic community.

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Speaker 4: Yes, all right, we'll paint you as a pin up

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Speaker 4: model on one of the drones that we send up

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Speaker 4: just for you, Jason.

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Speaker 3: Because I've got the fireworks. I just don't have the

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Speaker 3: drones yet. I got the fireworks that can blow those

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Speaker 3: things out of the sky.

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Speaker 1: To make that happen.

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Speaker 4: You just have a cheap RC plane, take a couple

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Speaker 4: of Roman candles to it. You got one hell of

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Speaker 4: a fourth of July.

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Speaker 1: Watch this.

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Speaker 3: Tony Kennitt is with us, host of the Tony Kennett Cast.

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Speaker 3: Tony I saw in Illinois they're having some big circle

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Speaker 3: the Wagons Illinois Democrat fundraising event and the very small

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Speaker 3: print at the bottom must have an identification to attend,

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Speaker 3: which is weird to me because I was told that

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Speaker 3: that was racist.

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Speaker 1: That was Jim Crow.

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Speaker 3: The Democratic Party will not stand for women not having

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Speaker 3: rights because having a driver's license is somehow not having rights.

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Speaker 3: What's up with this whole voter identification fight? And is

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Speaker 3: this going to test well for the Democrats politically?

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Speaker 4: So No, it's not testing well for the Democrats politically

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Speaker 4: at all, because as of now they haven't actually produced

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Speaker 4: any good argument against the Save Act or the Save

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Speaker 4: America Act, or the nationalization of voter ID policy, that standardization,

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Speaker 4: and it's killing them so harshly because the answers they

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Speaker 4: have come up against it are so stupid. When you

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Speaker 4: representative from Vermont, and you say it's gonna get rid

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Speaker 4: of one and four women's ability to vote. When you

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Speaker 4: an ID in this country. When you say that you know,

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Speaker 4: black people or poor people again wild to say those

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Speaker 4: same thing.

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Speaker 1: That is extremely racist.

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Speaker 4: But when you make that your policy that black people

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Speaker 4: or poor people are too stupid to get voter ID

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Speaker 4: or too poor to get ID. Yeah, that turns out

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Speaker 4: not to pull too well. Now, look, I understand some

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Speaker 4: women who struggle to drive may have a difficult time

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Speaker 4: but I mean that's you know, I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: Who are these women that are struggling to drive?

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Speaker 1: Married? Once up?

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Speaker 4: So you change your name, you take your husband's name,

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Speaker 4: or in Gavin Newsom's in case, you probably take your

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Speaker 1: Whatever, can you change your name?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: And hits the drunk moms that are struggling to drive,

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Speaker 2: the dwine moms, those are the ones that are actually

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Speaker 4: Apparently are there are these women, according to Democrats, that

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Speaker 4: like with their birth certificate. They're setting them on fire

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Speaker 4: because that's something apparently we're all doing. And they're saying

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Speaker 4: they can't go get another one or just keep a

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Speaker 4: hold of the documents they have to say, oh, hey,

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Speaker 4: here's where I changed my name. By the way, there's

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Speaker 4: not one document case in the United States regarding a

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Speaker 4: federal election of anyone being turned away because of a

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Speaker 4: marital name change.

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Speaker 1: They used to burn.

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Speaker 2: Their bras in the sixties, and now you're telling me

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Speaker 2: they're burning their birth certificates.

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Speaker 1: What the hell happened in Johns in the sixties?

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Speaker 3: What the hell happened to this country? Tony Kennett from

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Speaker 3: the Tony Kennett Cast joins us his program tonight seven o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Right after us Tony and I don't know if there's

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Speaker 3: ever a good time for a government shutdown, but it

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Speaker 3: seems like there's some mojo behind this economy. You've got

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Speaker 3: a new fed chair coming in. Sounds like he's going

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Speaker 3: to lower rates. Great jobs report came out today, Construction

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Speaker 1: Government's going down.

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Speaker 3: But when there's a government shutdown, it feels like that

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Speaker 4: What do you think, well, I mean, this is like

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Speaker 4: the four hundred and fifteenth shutdown that we've had for

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Speaker 4: a while, And this is like that one overly aggressive

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Speaker 4: person on Facebook whose relationship status keeps changing to it's complicated.

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Speaker 4: Is there ever a time when the government is not

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Speaker 4: about to be shut down?

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Speaker 3: I mean, really, you make a great point, but I

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Speaker 3: just look at the numbers of what the economy did

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Speaker 3: during the longer shutdown of the most recent ones, and

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Speaker 3: everything seems like it was going fine, but we still

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Speaker 3: lost a little momentum, and I don't want to lose

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Speaker 3: anything heading into the midterm season.

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Speaker 4: Well, I've got good news for you. This would be

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Speaker 4: a sort of kind of partial government shutdown. And I'm

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Speaker 4: really not joking in my description to that the entire

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Speaker 4: of this whole shutdown doesn't include the supplement of nutrition

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Speaker 4: assistance program, doesn't include SNAP, doesn't include Medicare, Medicaid, doesn't

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Speaker 4: include a bunch of things that are considered economic impactors.

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Speaker 4: So they're sort of shutting down some future funding. And

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Speaker 4: then also the second assistant postal worker might only get

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Speaker 4: paid every other third Tuesday instead of every second Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: That's how convoluted this proposed shutdown is. And again it's

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Speaker 4: all performative over ICE and DHS have already been fully funded.

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Speaker 4: They've got oodles, canoodles and toaster strudles of money here.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not sure. I think this is just Chuck

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Speaker 4: Schumer out there wanting to chant and put on the

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Speaker 4: hard hat and pretend to be worth something. Again, it's

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Speaker 4: like a bad village people video. Is Donald Trump's name

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Speaker 4: on the ballot?

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Speaker 2: We know his name's not on the ballot for the midterms,

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Speaker 2: but it's really a referendum on Donald Trump this coming,

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Speaker 2: you know, towards the end of this year, when we're

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Speaker 2: talking about when we're talking about the midterm elections.

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Speaker 4: I think that his name on the ballot in the

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Speaker 4: way that every midterm is a referendum on the party

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Speaker 4: in power. But it's not in the same way that

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Speaker 4: Trump endorsements. People have tried to make this case every

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Speaker 4: election that the Trump endorsement.

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Speaker 1: Makes or breaks you. Now it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: I think that more so the real I'm not even

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Speaker 4: After tax season, we'll talk show me good strong Q

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Speaker 4: one this year. I still think right now, whichever side

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Speaker 3: Tony, get it with us. Just got about ninety seconds

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Speaker 3: left here, Tony. This story about Savannah Guthries missing mother Nancy,

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Speaker 3: the dumb ass guy looking inside the ring camera, the

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Speaker 3: wrong person that was detained last night. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 3: this whole bizarre thing.

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Speaker 4: How can I offend the most people here in ninety seconds?

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Speaker 4: So first of all, you're an idiot if you do

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Speaker 4: anything like this. I hope they catch the guy. I

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Speaker 4: w hoope they hang him in the town square. Number two,

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Speaker 4: I think that keeping an eye on situations and not

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Speaker 4: over televising them is better for the federal year of investigation.

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Speaker 4: Number three, This has received wall to wall coverage on

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Speaker 4: every major network, NonStop, twenty four hours a day, and

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Speaker 4: I'm in a level with you. I think that this

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Speaker 4: and it's I don't see this amount of attention for

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Speaker 4: a lot of other missing people. Again, I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: that she shouldn't be covered. I obviously want her to

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Speaker 4: be found.

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Speaker 1: But John Rich.

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Speaker 3: Tweeted the same thing you did, Tony, and he was

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Speaker 3: catching hell for it. John Rich, country singer Conservative, said,

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Speaker 3: I hope they find missus Guthrie soon, alive and well.

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Speaker 3: But I wish we could have the same effort put

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Speaker 3: forth for all the missing kids in America.

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Speaker 4: I think that there's a fair thing to say, and

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Speaker 4: I think that a lot of this is because of

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Speaker 4: be found. Absolutely, I want them to hang the bastard responsible.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's also true that this is being

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Speaker 4: used as a spectacle so that a lot of lull

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Speaker 4: in the news cycle people can have something to air

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Speaker 4: coverage on, like it's a true crime podcast. And therefore

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Speaker 4: I find the televisation, the celebritization of this a little

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Speaker 4: bit disgusting.

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Speaker 1: What's coming up on the Big Show tonight.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, We've got some big investigations that I've been

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Speaker 4: waiting a long time to break finally this evening, and

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Speaker 4: a little bit of look back on the last five

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Speaker 4: hundred episodes and the wonderful times.

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Speaker 1: We've all shared and enjoyed.

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Speaker 2: Right on.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations buddy, I really appreciate it, guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: That's it, man.

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Speaker 3: You have five hundred episodes. That's like four hundred and

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Speaker 3: ninety more than cop Rock ever had. So congratulations. Airing

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Speaker 3: on CNN plus Real Soon check it out tonight right

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Speaker 3: after our show seven pm.

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