Speaker 1: The frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome to another episode of the France Second Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm here us with the evening. My name is Mike.
Speaker 2: Across from me, I have Rod next to Rod, I
Speaker 2: have Ken across from Can, I have Spike, and we
Speaker 2: are here to cover the final section and finale of
Speaker 2: Stranger Things.
Speaker 1: This is the fifth season, so it's been.
Speaker 3: On the air for nine years. I did not realize
Speaker 3: it was that fucking long.
Speaker 1: Blew it did? I thought about it. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: it was that long.
Speaker 2: That's look old because they've kids grown into old people.
Speaker 2: But god damn, Now it explains why Lucas out here.
Speaker 1: Lucas got kids.
Speaker 2: Now you know I'm saying Lucas out here looking like
Speaker 2: Idris elbow and ship. But okay, so I'm gonna start
Speaker 2: with you, Spike. What did you think of the final
Speaker 2: chunk of episodes of Stranger Things?
Speaker 1: Did it close it out? Good for you? Because you
Speaker 1: had never seen anything?
Speaker 3: Y'all watched it. I skipped the last year. I ain't
Speaker 3: even go back and watch it.
Speaker 1: You skipped season four.
Speaker 3: I looked. I've seen everything about the last episode. So
Speaker 3: that's crazy because Sason four is probably the last the
Speaker 3: last episode where he took over Max, like that what happened?
Speaker 1: Oh so you saw that.
Speaker 3: I saw that most of it, Yeah, but I just
Speaker 3: didn't watch the last like it was like two hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, last one was two hours. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sound like nope, not doing it. But it wasn't bad.
Speaker 3: They ended it fine. The nostalgia, I feel like it's
Speaker 3: gone to what you were saying because the kids are
Speaker 3: old now. They try to replace the filling with new
Speaker 3: kids and it just didn't work like the original one.
Speaker 1: But as far as the story, it was cool. It
Speaker 1: was fine. They ended it well, Ken, what'd you think.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it, you know. I didn't
Speaker 4: want to get to to hype about, oh my god,
Speaker 4: this is gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: Just take it for what it was.
Speaker 4: And for the most part, I was still engaged talking
Speaker 4: to the TV et cetera, et cetera, So I was
Speaker 4: still all into it and just trying to make sure
Speaker 4: I just temper my expectations for what would be an
Speaker 4: incredible Dope finale. There were some somewhat disappointed elements to it,
Speaker 4: but I kind of got why they did it, so
Speaker 4: it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: But it was just like oh, okay.
Speaker 4: But it's hard to nail a finale for something that
Speaker 4: we've been watching for so long and basically grew up
Speaker 4: with these kids. But you know, I feel like it
Speaker 4: accomplished what it needs to accomplish.
Speaker 3: Rob this was on your best of the Year list.
Speaker 3: What did you think about how it closed out?
Speaker 1: I thought it closed out fine.
Speaker 5: It definitely has some cringe worthy moments, but I think
Speaker 5: for a show to have so much at stake when
Speaker 5: it comes to trying to close it out, I think
Speaker 5: they handled it pretty well. So like, because you're not
Speaker 5: gonna please everybody, and then when you started trying to
Speaker 5: please everybody, that's where you started suck up. And so
Speaker 5: I thought they did a good job just kind of
Speaker 5: sticking to whatever that whatever their story is, and ANDed.
Speaker 1: It just like that, so I could respect that.
Speaker 5: I do think, and I've been saying this for they
Speaker 5: probably should have ended this show like a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago, because, like you were saying, I think the
Speaker 5: lore isn't quite the same, or the nostalgia or the
Speaker 5: field or whatever. We're kind of forcing it, I think
Speaker 5: with them being so older. But for the most part,
Speaker 5: I think I think they did a did a decent job.
Speaker 5: That's why I made my top ten.
Speaker 3: Still, in the words of Nick, this was super right.
Speaker 3: Maybe not even super.
Speaker 2: Right, this was just I I definitely think they could
Speaker 2: have done much better. I think that they were afraid
Speaker 2: of games of throwing this. They didn't want it to
Speaker 2: be strange with thrones, so they played it extremely safe,
Speaker 2: to point where it was like, fuck this, fuck this.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like there's any steaks. I don't feel
Speaker 2: like there's you know, I've never felt any danger for anybody,
Speaker 2: because after a while it was like, oh, y'all bullshiting,
Speaker 2: y'all bullshit, You're not gonna kill anybody.
Speaker 1: So it's like who cares and we'll get to it.
Speaker 2: But there were some things in these last chunk, like
Speaker 2: the first four I thought were great. The first part
Speaker 2: of this season I thought was ended, but then the
Speaker 2: way it picked up and it carried out, I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: this is dull as fuck.
Speaker 1: Who cares.
Speaker 2: But there was one thing where I was just like,
Speaker 2: get me the fuck out.
Speaker 1: Of here.
Speaker 3: Now. Lucas didn't do anything that that that bothered me.
Speaker 1: We'll get to it. But it was just like, this
Speaker 1: is dumb. This is real dumb.
Speaker 3: But Yeah, it was okay. It wasn't bad. It wasn't trash.
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of people complaining it was okay.
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, So let's start start with chapter five,
Speaker 2: which is Shock Jock, and this is where the kids
Speaker 2: awaken Commaisots, where Henry's convinced them that he saved him,
Speaker 2: but Derek and Holly don't believe it. Max and Holly
Speaker 2: try to go through Henry's memories to figure out a
Speaker 2: way out while Derek distracts them, but outside, the kids
Speaker 2: come up with a plan to resurrect the Demogorgon to
Speaker 2: Will can get back into the High Mind to attack Vecna.
Speaker 2: Was it cool to see Will tap into Vecna's mind
Speaker 2: and then kind of break his leg in order to
Speaker 2: rescue Max because Vecna was on on top of Max
Speaker 2: choking the ship at her.
Speaker 1: No, that was good. I did like this, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: It was a good carry over from the last episode
Speaker 5: to see him You, I know, everybody wanted to see
Speaker 5: that because everybody's hype about that shit. So it's cool
Speaker 5: to see him actually be able to do it, and
Speaker 5: Vecna seemed vulnerable in this moment. They had to They
Speaker 5: had to make Vecna scenem vulnerable because he was what
Speaker 5: do y'all say?
Speaker 1: Ope? Character?
Speaker 5: Almost it was like go to gonna start this movie,
Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying, Like, so he was
Speaker 5: what character they call it op when the character is
Speaker 5: like overpowered or whatever it is, it's like, how do
Speaker 5: you fucking beat him?
Speaker 1: So it makes it It brings down the kind of
Speaker 1: the enjoyment of the like there's nothing you can do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So to see that, I thought it was I thought
Speaker 1: it was important. Mm hmmm. What about y'all?
Speaker 4: Oh damn, it was cool, but Will really weren't worth
Speaker 4: It wasn't worth it. Damn damn brou Will was sorry
Speaker 4: as hell man, he wasn't you know it?
Speaker 1: Spike know it, Rod, you know it too. And they
Speaker 1: just gave him this.
Speaker 4: They gave him this one moment and we're gonna get
Speaker 4: through it.
Speaker 3: But this was three episodes before the final talk about
Speaker 3: the part.
Speaker 4: This was a shining moment, Spike's coming out party.
Speaker 1: This was this was.
Speaker 3: This was coming out No, it was not coming out party. Literally,
Speaker 3: they're not there yet, guys.
Speaker 1: Well I'm moving ahead. I know I'm just saying, but
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. I did like he finally.
Speaker 4: Found himself, right he tapped into his super nothing.
Speaker 1: You say, right now? Found um?
Speaker 2: All?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: In the upside Down, we see that Hopper and l
Speaker 2: have they rescued Collie. If y'all remember Collie because most
Speaker 2: people don't, She's from the worst episode of the entire show.
Speaker 2: But they rescued her, and Collie reveals that they have
Speaker 2: been using her blood to put into pregnant women to
Speaker 2: start a new army of super soldiers. But also in
Speaker 2: the Upside Down, will Jonathan, Steve, Dancy, and Dustin figure
Speaker 2: out that the wall that's around Hopkins is vecna's energy.
Speaker 1: Shield, which they need to destroy.
Speaker 2: And right then, uh, actually, you know I'm asking all
Speaker 2: this whatd y'all think of the fight between step and Dustin.
Speaker 3: It was sad both of them would be in dipshits.
Speaker 3: I feel like it was on both of If it
Speaker 3: wasn't one, primarily it was your fault or your fault.
Speaker 3: I think it was just him spending too much time
Speaker 3: together too. It seemed like but he was you know,
Speaker 3: you have fights like it with like your cousins.
Speaker 4: But it was sass in them kind of go back
Speaker 4: and forth. You know, Dustin had been through a lot.
Speaker 1: Bro he brought it on himself. He was being a
Speaker 1: little bitch. Who Dustin? Yeah, but he was being a
Speaker 1: little bit. But Steve is this when Steve? I think
Speaker 1: Steve went too far.
Speaker 2: Though he did, Steve was being uncharacteristically rude, and I
Speaker 2: didn't think this was good writing because if Steve had
Speaker 2: been like this earlier, I would get it. And he
Speaker 2: hasn't been like this in season one, right, So it
Speaker 2: was like, why is he acting like this? I get
Speaker 2: he's jealous of Dustin's relationship with Eddie, but it was
Speaker 2: just like, where is this coming from? I told y'all
Speaker 2: not to be heroes. He got himself killed?
Speaker 1: What? What? What? That was? Asshole?
Speaker 3: I feel like though he had felt like he was
Speaker 3: doing a lot for Dustin and Dustin weren't appreciating it.
Speaker 3: With the frustration started leaking out of him being kind
Speaker 3: of smart, actually smart alecky with Dustin, but that just
Speaker 3: seemed like.
Speaker 1: He went he wasn't yeah, I do agree with you.
Speaker 2: Then he could have just said, Justin, you'r you know, Dustin,
Speaker 2: you're being a dick. Stop being a dick. But instead
Speaker 2: you like went to, oh, your boy got himself killed,
Speaker 2: did it to himself. He didn't rescue it. He didn't
Speaker 2: save anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you doing? Yeah? He went in necessarily.
Speaker 3: How those boys still bullying Dustin?
Speaker 1: Like you was still bullying? Nah?
Speaker 3: Dustin is what he was a senior in high school.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he was, but he like he
Speaker 3: needed disaskment.
Speaker 4: I felt like we didn't get a real good resolution
Speaker 4: to that either, but it was it was just like
Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah, it was just like okay, that's it.
Speaker 3: That it seemed like a random part that didn't really.
Speaker 4: Go anywhere, didn't need to be in the show.
Speaker 1: Not really because it didn't help anything, but.
Speaker 3: It made Dustin disappear. He couldn't go to the upside down?
Speaker 1: Was he like in real life? Did he have something
Speaker 1: to do when they beat him up and left him there?
Speaker 1: And I think he just missed it?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I know, but like you know, it's like
Speaker 2: when when someone disappears from a show for yeah, like
Speaker 2: in real life, is getting because you know, he has
Speaker 2: that I forget what it's called, but he has like
Speaker 2: a real physical disease.
Speaker 3: That disease but like an uh you know, like a condition.
Speaker 2: And I've read that sometimes they need quite a bit
Speaker 2: of surgery, so maybe he had to step out for
Speaker 2: surgery or something. But outside of that, it was just like,
Speaker 2: why did y'all even put this in here? This didn't
Speaker 2: add anything to this, to this show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just keeping keeping drama attention around just because, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's how it felt.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of that though. All right.
Speaker 2: So after the fight, Dustin figures out that he was wrong,
Speaker 2: but it's too late and Nancy destroys the energy field,
Speaker 2: which leads into the next episode, Chapter six, Escape from Combizants.
Speaker 1: Uh, what did you think of the revolution? Revolution?
Speaker 2: Where'd you think of the revelation that the upside down
Speaker 2: isn't actually an alternate dimension, it's a wormhole that leads
Speaker 2: to another realm?
Speaker 1: Was this interesting to you at all? Rod? It wasn't interesting.
Speaker 1: It was interesting.
Speaker 5: I don't know if the payoff of it was was
Speaker 5: there For me.
Speaker 1: It just seemed like it was gonna do something a
Speaker 1: lot more than what it actually did.
Speaker 5: And I saw that's a lot of complaints or whatnot.
Speaker 5: Because he's like, oh man, what the fuck gonna be
Speaker 5: in this other world? And d D So it kind
Speaker 5: of the way he explained it, He's like, oh man,
Speaker 5: we like because Dustin was like, oh yeah, we we
Speaker 5: thought ship was bad, but it's worse.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so that worst just never came. So yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all feel the same way. Yeah, out of here, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm like a.
Speaker 4: Wormhole for four seasons, this thing just been a worm.
Speaker 2: Oh and we thought you were smart, Dustin, but nah,
Speaker 2: you kind of dumb because it took you fucking nine
Speaker 2: years to figure this out.
Speaker 1: Like what he found, Yeah, he found the only reason
Speaker 1: he figured it out.
Speaker 4: And then and then Nancy shooting the thing with not
Speaker 4: understand anything that ships. They just needed the reason for
Speaker 4: her to shoot it to create I'm like, she.
Speaker 1: Shot up with a shotgune, dude, and it broke the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Are you serious?
Speaker 4: I'm like what I'm like, everybody knows who listened to Dustin.
Speaker 1: He's the guy. You don't know what this thing is.
Speaker 1: They couldn't hear it. They couldn't hear him. No, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 2: Before that, Dustin told them that it needed to be destroyed.
Speaker 2: But by the time he figured out that it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be destroyed, he couldn't get a hold of them on
Speaker 2: the on the radio.
Speaker 4: But I think even Evin, what is the guy's name.
Speaker 4: The other guy was like, yo, you sure you want
Speaker 4: to do this? She was on her badass ship g
Speaker 4: I Jane shit, so she was like yeah, I know,
Speaker 4: yeah because Dustin told her that was But anyway, the wormhole,
Speaker 4: I was like, bru, like that's this. When the story started,
Speaker 4: this whole thing started to get a little bit confused
Speaker 4: and convoluted, like you know, it's like this other world
Speaker 4: and then there's this cave and then that's a wormhole.
Speaker 1: Y'all. It's just like, bro, like, where the fuck are we?
Speaker 1: I don't know what is going on?
Speaker 4: They're adding, They added so many elements to get to
Speaker 4: a conclusion.
Speaker 5: Because my thing is like, is that part only gonna
Speaker 5: collide with fucking Hawkins?
Speaker 1: Like what that doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 5: Like so he's gonna bring this just this one world
Speaker 5: inside of fucking Hawkins City.
Speaker 4: And where is this world? Where did it come from?
Speaker 4: How did he get there? It's just like, bro, you
Speaker 4: they doing too much.
Speaker 2: This definitely gave me the feeling that they pulled a
Speaker 2: Star Wars sequel trilogy, which means they did not actually
Speaker 2: have an ending written and they fucking winged it at
Speaker 2: the absolute last second and y'all sat here for nine
Speaker 2: years to give us four seasons of this show. Y'all
Speaker 2: have plenty of time to make this make sense. Why
Speaker 2: are you adding a fucking wormhole and a whole separate dimension?
Speaker 2: Why are you adding this at the eleventh hour? I
Speaker 2: don't understand. There was no reason to make this that
Speaker 2: fucking convolude. You had all of the pieces laid out
Speaker 2: for you. The last season of the show, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: was the best season.
Speaker 1: Of the show. Why did you do all of this?
Speaker 4: So I'm with y'all, It was the only way to
Speaker 4: scientifically explain it. And I did read that they never
Speaker 4: intended to go past one season. Ye, yeah, So everything
Speaker 4: you're saying is and that is spot on.
Speaker 1: But they did such a good job at the last.
Speaker 4: Season and to but to your point, it's like, once
Speaker 4: you got the second season, at some point you gotta
Speaker 4: start figuring out how the hell we're gonna get to them.
Speaker 2: So, if you're taking this much time in between seasons,
Speaker 2: what are y'all doing jerking off? Why were y'all taking
Speaker 2: this long if you weren't thinking about, Okay, how are
Speaker 2: we gonna how are we gonna wrap this up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? By season three. You started, you should have started
Speaker 1: working on that. Yeah, and they didn't. They didn't, so
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: So after Nancy Stallone destroys the fucking energy thing, the
Speaker 2: walls start to melt, trapping Jonathan and Nancy in a room,
Speaker 2: and it's here that they have a serieserious conversation about
Speaker 2: the relationship.
Speaker 1: Did y'all care? This was so whack?
Speaker 3: What was this stuff that was leaking?
Speaker 1: They stop? Did it? Just stopped? And we have stopped?
Speaker 1: Don't I'm sorry, sorry, I'll stop. We had no.
Speaker 3: Reason to know why I stopped anything. They just had
Speaker 3: to put them in the room so they could confess.
Speaker 3: They I said, there was cringe ship. This was the
Speaker 3: first thing that came to my mind. I know what
Speaker 3: he's referring to. Obviously something later, but this was the
Speaker 3: first thing that came to mind. This was unbelievably cringe.
Speaker 3: Will you accept my unproposal?
Speaker 1: Man, get your fucking ass out of my face.
Speaker 2: Bro, right now, the walls are melting and you really
Speaker 2: want to talk about this ship?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: That's why I'm breaking up with your eyes. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm sucking Steve.
Speaker 4: And again, we didn't know what the walls were. We
Speaker 4: didn't know what was having for that. It was just
Speaker 4: and we don't know why it stopped.
Speaker 1: It just did. And Justin Dustin didn't. You got to
Speaker 1: me call him.
Speaker 4: Justin Dustin didn't come in there and explaining ship.
Speaker 1: He didn't do anything.
Speaker 4: This was just they didn't know what to do with
Speaker 4: steve relationship and this other guy's relationship and who she
Speaker 4: was gonna pick.
Speaker 1: We was just gonna give her nobody. This is how
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. I'm saying they played it super safe.
Speaker 5: Michael Supersy dead spot on a day like, Nope, nobody
Speaker 5: in the Game of Thrones up to.
Speaker 1: Me, Like she should have got with Steve. Oh no,
Speaker 1: she should have got nothing.
Speaker 2: Like They've always hated Nancy anyway, A lot of people like,
Speaker 2: I hate Nancy. She is my least favorite character on
Speaker 2: this entire show. She is a selfish piece of ship.
Speaker 2: She's so fucking annoying.
Speaker 3: My boyfriend us a room with a funny looking dude.
Speaker 1: Funny looking dude.
Speaker 3: When she was in the Milton room, I like, that's
Speaker 3: that's my favorite character.
Speaker 1: Once she was in the room that was Milton. It's
Speaker 1: the ball cut. He's They just made him worthless. He
Speaker 1: was ship. He didn't do ship, but he's been worth
Speaker 1: he's been worth.
Speaker 2: Walking kind of right right, look on his face, always
Speaker 2: looking sad and ship, get your ass out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one moment. Yeah, it wasn't even that great.
Speaker 2: So were y'all touched when Dustin and Steve made up.
Speaker 2: When Steve was trying to get to Nancy and them,
Speaker 2: and then Dustin stopped him and he started.
Speaker 3: That was dope.
Speaker 1: Part was that was good?
Speaker 3: I did like so that you feel right there?
Speaker 1: He said, he was right. Yeah, that was so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why they had the big blow up for
Speaker 5: this moment. I think I know y'all had issues with
Speaker 5: the blow up. I didn't really get my opinion, but
Speaker 5: I think that moment.
Speaker 1: Isn't say nothing in your face. She was like this,
Speaker 1: So I thought you wanted to move on. I didn't
Speaker 1: skip you on perfect. I thought you agree with us too.
Speaker 1: I thought you I didn't have something at it. Bro
Speaker 1: what you like? You like the blow I.
Speaker 5: Understood it in the in the sense of this story.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, I like just in
Speaker 5: shows and movies and how people grieve differently. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: so I always I always liked seeing like depictions of
Speaker 5: how people grieve and how it comes up and how
Speaker 5: it comes out.
Speaker 1: That's all I agree with you, Perc.
Speaker 2: I do like because I've liked, I've enjoyed the way
Speaker 2: Dustin has been very withdrawn because he's grieving over this
Speaker 2: guy and cards on the table. Eddie one hundred percent
Speaker 2: is my favorite character for this whole show, my favorite
Speaker 2: character out this whole show.
Speaker 1: And he died.
Speaker 2: That was the saddest moment of this show. I didn't
Speaker 2: think anything could get me more than.
Speaker 5: You, which is crazy because they had just introduced They
Speaker 5: just introduced crazy.
Speaker 2: And when he died, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: especially when he was like I didn't run this time,
Speaker 2: did I?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? That shit got me. So I liked
Speaker 1: how how we saw for a whole.
Speaker 3: Half a season Dustin was grieving.
Speaker 2: My issue with that fight is I think it would
Speaker 2: have made a lot more sense if Dustin started the
Speaker 2: fight and actually said something like hurtful to Steve Well.
Speaker 5: He said, you would not demand that Eddie, You'll never
Speaker 5: be the man that Eddie was, or something like that.
Speaker 2: He said something like that, but it wasn't. It didn't
Speaker 2: cut deep enough. He should have been like Look, that's
Speaker 2: why Nancy don't want your ass. That's why he's with John,
Speaker 2: That's why she's with Jonathan. You over here, fucking He
Speaker 2: did say something kind of sort of like that, but
Speaker 2: he should have cut deeper, And I think the fight
Speaker 2: would have made more sense because Dustin being uncharacteristically asshole
Speaker 2: in that moment would have made sense. Steve didn't, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm with you. The greeting part was cool. I just
Speaker 2: didn't really love how they did it. But I liked
Speaker 2: I liked them making up. I liked them making up.
Speaker 2: I can't lose you too, not you. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I forgot they were besties. So Holly and Max discovered
Speaker 2: why Henry was afraid of the cave. He had a
Speaker 2: memory of killing a soldier. I didn't give a fuck about.
Speaker 2: But outside, if y'all do for fleet or jump in hopper,
Speaker 2: Eleven and Collie meet up with Joyce and the other kids,
Speaker 2: and it's there that Eleven discovers that Vecta is sending
Speaker 2: Demogorgon's to the hospital to kill Max. So what did
Speaker 2: y'all think about when the demogra agaans went to the
Speaker 2: hospital to get Max?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I remember this part.
Speaker 3: That was when Max got into it with Henry and
Speaker 3: Henry shiit I got other ways the cave.
Speaker 2: Yep, I thought there was Robin and her girlfriend were
Speaker 2: at the hospital.
Speaker 1: Lucas was up there something.
Speaker 3: And they realized that they wasn't looking for them, but
Speaker 3: they was looking for Max.
Speaker 4: Yes, and a girlfriend of't believe her until them big
Speaker 4: ass dogs because they called it a drug addict said
Speaker 4: he's a jerkie.
Speaker 1: But they did. Yeah, they used a call back to
Speaker 1: like Jurassic Park.
Speaker 5: It's basically the same, same set up them behind and
Speaker 5: behind the thing. While they did make the other news
Speaker 5: ways or whatever, so it was basically the same.
Speaker 3: So those things don't have eyes. They can just hear.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Yeah they had that sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think they have I never even thought
Speaker 5: that their face is just the mouth, but I was
Speaker 5: like that just the mouth as a face.
Speaker 1: I was a little.
Speaker 5: Unrealistic because she had the headphones. I'm like, well, fuck,
Speaker 5: they can hear that, like they know exactly where you are.
Speaker 5: So I was just like, how are y'all getting around
Speaker 5: this this whole?
Speaker 1: Do you have anything? Before I go? You can go.
Speaker 1: I'll just add on maybe that was just a louder noise. No, bro,
Speaker 1: this to me outside the host it off, put it off.
Speaker 2: I had a problem immediately when the demo Gorgans attacked
Speaker 2: the soldiers. Okay, but at no point did they attack
Speaker 2: what was her Robin and her girlfriend. And then she's like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's like she had to explain it.
Speaker 1: They're not here from me. Well, they weren't here for
Speaker 1: the fucking soldiers either, so why did they kill them?
Speaker 1: But not y'all?
Speaker 2: The Demogorgans ran straight at them and then took a
Speaker 2: hard left and I was like, wait, what and she says, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're not here for us. Come on, man, the Democrat
Speaker 2: has been killing everybody until now.
Speaker 1: That ship was wacked. That's why I asked to have
Speaker 1: as Even.
Speaker 2: If they didn't have, they would have heard them, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, or smell them. But then the
Speaker 2: extra wat ship.
Speaker 1: Was when they were hiding in the fucking basement.
Speaker 2: Just like Rod said, you're playing this, fucking bro, she's
Speaker 2: not coming back.
Speaker 3: Hit pause at least at least until we get out
Speaker 3: of here. Hit pause, and then we can play again later.
Speaker 1: But like, what are you doing over here? You want
Speaker 1: to be a fucking stubborn little bitch over your girl
Speaker 1: go over there.
Speaker 2: That ship was aggravating, and then it was just like
Speaker 2: we didn't need uh.
Speaker 1: The wheeler mom.
Speaker 2: God, yeah, her fucking neck was slit not but what
Speaker 2: three episodes ago?
Speaker 1: Come on, guys, this is I mean, I know you
Speaker 1: wanted your triumphant moment, but this was too much.
Speaker 3: But you knew it was so predictable it was and
Speaker 3: just un believable, Like did they.
Speaker 1: Cheer when that when she did that? Who in the movies?
Speaker 1: He was in the theater but you go to I
Speaker 1: forgot theater.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, that was just like, yeah, you're right predictive,
Speaker 4: you can see it coming, which you know, I guess
Speaker 4: it's fine, but but at the same because you know
Speaker 4: it's probably worked for certain audiences.
Speaker 1: Right yeah, sure, they were like yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but it's like it's just like, bro, you
Speaker 4: you were dead, and how are you talking?
Speaker 1: They said she probably wouldn't be able to talk bro talking.
Speaker 3: I think they did it way more than I like,
Speaker 3: because they did that with Lucas too. Yes, he had
Speaker 3: that scratch from the Damn demogogue. In the next episode,
Speaker 3: he just carrying Max up to Damn like that. He
Speaker 3: wouldn't even hello quick that wolver It looked like it
Speaker 3: was like life threatening, like he would have leaned out
Speaker 3: and running.
Speaker 2: What he was on the ground crying. The next episode,
Speaker 2: he's running with Max in his arm, just like they said.
Speaker 2: It's like, Bro, and Max don't look like she don't
Speaker 2: weigh like she likes like she weigh a decent amount,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I was like, this
Speaker 2: is ridiculous, you know anyway, Yeah, I'm with y'all. This
Speaker 2: was a bit This was a bit much, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it there's a reason for it.
Speaker 1: It's for that certain audience.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So Karen Wheeler says them by putting the
Speaker 2: bomb in the laundry, which leaves them free to keep
Speaker 2: playing the music, which allows Max to come back to
Speaker 2: the real world, which takes into the next episode, which
Speaker 2: is chapter seventh, The Bridge. While Max got out her
Speaker 2: sorry I hope she never has children, the fact that
Speaker 2: she left Holly behind. I was like, Bro, what I got?
Speaker 2: Leave you here right nowhere?
Speaker 1: She said, just look for something that's in the bottom
Speaker 1: of your heart that will What are you talking about?
Speaker 6: Just to say that, Bro, you can't help me find
Speaker 6: my way out first, because you know when yours is
Speaker 6: right there.
Speaker 1: Said don't, God damn fall I don't. I don't get.
Speaker 5: This part made me so fucking angry, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: if you don't, why are you slow walking?
Speaker 1: She didn't even wait for the buying from Holly. She
Speaker 1: just said, I have to do. I'm going.
Speaker 3: I'm about to leave this my world, this is yours.
Speaker 3: You see that hole over there, that's my man calling me.
Speaker 3: I have to go, you right me safing girl, figure
Speaker 3: out good luck Bill's character.
Speaker 5: It should have went that fast, but it didn't go
Speaker 5: that fast. You'll remember how long this Yeah, I'm all
Speaker 5: this talking. You could have found her way out already
Speaker 5: yelling at the screen.
Speaker 1: I think everybody across the.
Speaker 5: Yelling at this moment we were in a high mind
Speaker 5: was like plural, like this is a unison run that
Speaker 5: everybody was saying, like what.
Speaker 4: It made no sense for her to be walking because
Speaker 4: last time she tried to get out.
Speaker 1: How she got missed up last time?
Speaker 4: So now you see it. This time you're just gonna stroll.
Speaker 4: The song is running up the hill walking right, and
Speaker 4: Holly just knew we all get out together.
Speaker 3: What because when she got out, I expected everybody to
Speaker 3: be like, wait, you fucking left Holly.
Speaker 1: She's ten. She's ten, Are you serious? And it took
Speaker 1: them forever to ask her when she was in because.
Speaker 2: They just knew that she couldn't have found Holly because
Speaker 2: there's no way she left her.
Speaker 1: But when she was like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: She was in there, White, I'm kicking off your wheelchair
Speaker 2: straight up?
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Anyway? All right? So they also the
Speaker 1: means that came from it was crazy. There were means
Speaker 1: I didn't see. Oh my god, it was saying everything
Speaker 1: that she was doing to step run into that warter,
Speaker 1: because it's.
Speaker 4: One of those common sense things I think movies and
Speaker 4: television shows need to get rid of. You don't need
Speaker 4: to just build suspense that way, you really don't. And
Speaker 4: we've we've been there, done, We've seen way too many movies.
Speaker 1: And they went all the way there. They had a
Speaker 1: fucking slow motion yeah, and then another episode that was crazy.
Speaker 2: So so they also enlisted mister Clark to help so
Speaker 2: they can find Dustin and the others in the upside.
Speaker 1: Snook thems that it was.
Speaker 3: Funny by kind of ran into my nerves a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, he ran.
Speaker 4: It into the ground. But you know, it was funny.
Speaker 3: They needed Murray for that comic relief though in true
Speaker 3: because it might have been a little too heavy without him,
Speaker 3: because Dustin used to be the comic relief, but now
Speaker 3: he's all you know. So they go back into the
Speaker 3: episode now and to find him and bring him back.
Speaker 1: But once in the real world.
Speaker 2: What did you think of Dustin's explanation of what the
Speaker 2: ABYSS was?
Speaker 1: He basically, it's.
Speaker 2: Another dimension in the upside down. He based kind of
Speaker 2: recapped what was early now. I think we had this
Speaker 2: discussion about what Netflix is doing. I can't remember what
Speaker 2: they call it, but remember we talked about how Netflix
Speaker 2: has this thing now where they make shows for people
Speaker 2: that are on their phones.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that's why you really have to pay
Speaker 3: a position. Yeah, yeah, to pay attention because they're explaining it.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you were here when we
Speaker 2: were talking about this, but yeah, this was a very
Speaker 2: clear example of that. They they explained ship three four
Speaker 2: times over, so that's what I was kind of getting
Speaker 2: that there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Rob, were you surprised.
Speaker 2: When colleague explains to l that she has to die
Speaker 2: after the missions over in order to keep Henry from
Speaker 2: coming back.
Speaker 5: Was that surprised, Yeah, I was a little surprised.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean she she ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: live for.
Speaker 2: You, like, you sacrificed something, friends was killed, right, he's
Speaker 2: just your little ball head.
Speaker 1: Ass ain't got ship up.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: She's like, look, she's like, come with me. So I
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I understand what she was
Speaker 3: telling her. The reason that she should leave is because
Speaker 3: they gonna find her eventually.
Speaker 1: He was her blood. Yes, yes, so she don't think.
Speaker 3: She was kind of Yeah, she was kind of playing
Speaker 3: like she's stupid, but she don't know how to doesn't
Speaker 3: to be fair, Yeah.
Speaker 4: They were gonna find her. Yeah, they're definitely gonna find It.
Speaker 4: Was just Collie got on my fucking nerve, just like
Speaker 4: universal you just always just sitting around, just just in
Speaker 4: the background, just looking at folks, just moping and ships, all.
Speaker 1: These friends and she got daddy. I don't have a daddy.
Speaker 1: You could have stayed at the last. At the last,
Speaker 1: you know what you shown enough. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: She did not seem very grateful about the fact that.
Speaker 1: You've been and everything that we do. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: like what the what the hell? So now you won't
Speaker 1: me to die.
Speaker 4: We're just gonna stay here and just die together right now.
Speaker 4: And Colley was serious about it, cause we saw what
Speaker 4: she told us. She was murking everybody until it came
Speaker 4: trying to Mark motherfuck well, the thing was going off.
Speaker 1: But yeah, she got on my fucking nerves.
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Speaker 2: frames per second. All right, So this takes us into
Speaker 2: the scene Spike's favorite scene. This is when they are
Speaker 2: showing Will coming out as something we have known since
Speaker 2: season fucking two one. Well, he was barely in season one,
Speaker 2: but once they brought him back into the real world.
Speaker 2: It was like it was season two because remember season one,
Speaker 2: he Season one ended with him getting out of the
Speaker 2: upside down and then he puked out the little bug
Speaker 2: or whatever, and then there was like the world shifted
Speaker 2: and then it stopped it like ended or whatever. And
Speaker 2: then season two is when we actually spend time with Will,
Speaker 2: and that's when we start seeing like, you know, he's
Speaker 2: crying over Mike and shit, and he's like just being
Speaker 2: weird and it's like, oh, cool, you're gay, Like can
Speaker 2: we just come out. It's not a big deal, man,
Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. But yeah, this was his
Speaker 2: official coming out.
Speaker 3: So and the funniest mean from that, Oh no, it's
Speaker 3: it's like if Will was black. Oh I saw that,
Speaker 3: like what we knew that she was, but I thought
Speaker 3: I say it that it was.
Speaker 1: Just somebody going to say, oh yeah, man, we already.
Speaker 2: I thought at least Dustin or something like, bro, we've
Speaker 2: been know now what else you got?
Speaker 1: Will literally said that it's not my funk. You don't
Speaker 1: like you did. It's like he's been saying it like
Speaker 1: I don't understand, bro, Like yeah, so y'all didn't like this.
Speaker 5: This this was man, Yes, like Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: It was just it felt like it was out of place.
Speaker 5: It was like, if it was it was too long,
Speaker 5: out of place, too long and out of place.
Speaker 1: Didn't like they forced it, Like what are we doing it?
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, they don't wonder no matter how we
Speaker 5: described this scene it matters.
Speaker 1: Didn't have to do that. It was. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just so out of place.
Speaker 5: It was so out of place and just felt so unnecessary,
Speaker 5: Like they could have did this very subtly, like you
Speaker 5: don't like you're you're acting like we're just dumb.
Speaker 1: Yes, like like it was an assault of intelligence, Like
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, why are y'all.
Speaker 3: Doing Why y'all making this a big thing? It wasn't
Speaker 3: enough that he had the conversation with the other girl.
Speaker 1: With that fine literally, like the cutaways to everybody just
Speaker 1: intent me looking bro. It was like, are y'all really
Speaker 1: doing it? It was one of the most cringiest moments
Speaker 1: in television history. Yeah, you agree with you, like at
Speaker 1: least what ten minutes or something like that. It did
Speaker 1: feel like it was ten minutes long. Man.
Speaker 5: That was crazy. I could not believe they were doing it.
Speaker 5: When I was watching, I was like, are they really
Speaker 5: about to do this.
Speaker 4: They had to do it then, now was you know?
Speaker 4: Because and that was the thing, Like you waited until
Speaker 4: season five? You know they could have done this two
Speaker 4: three seasons at least season four. Get this shot the
Speaker 4: way and the way he delivered it. When I tell you,
Speaker 4: I'm so sick of fucking Will crying every fucking thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: Bro, you know what's funny?
Speaker 5: Can I did feel for Will for for like a
Speaker 5: couple of seasons, Like I did.
Speaker 4: I like, he cries all the fucking time, does Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I did feel like some empathy for him like
Speaker 4: some other season.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, man, we're going through it ship.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, early on he been to well through some ship.
Speaker 4: But bro, you're grown ass man now fucking crying.
Speaker 1: But he's not supposed to be a girl ass.
Speaker 5: But he just looked like a girls looked like because
Speaker 5: he is in real life forty two right. That's the
Speaker 5: thing that we keep forgetting. That's why I said I
Speaker 5: think this show ran with a little too long, Yes,
Speaker 5: little too loon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm with y'all.
Speaker 2: This part irked the shit out of me because it
Speaker 2: was so long.
Speaker 1: When he was going through all the things that they like.
Speaker 2: Oh, we all liked oreos and we like we like
Speaker 2: soda pops, and we like jump ropes, and we like
Speaker 2: video games and we like drawings. I was like, bro,
Speaker 2: get to the fucking point, Get to.
Speaker 1: The fucking breath. It was so bad.
Speaker 2: The writing was bad and the acting was atrocious. Now
Speaker 2: there's two things I did like the You'll never lose
Speaker 2: me part. I did like that when he was like,
Speaker 2: you'll never lose me, and then the brother came over
Speaker 2: and then you.
Speaker 3: Know, Mike's like or me or me. I did really
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Only probably didn't like was when Max was like, or me,
Speaker 2: but you have to come over here and hug me
Speaker 2: because I can't walk.
Speaker 1: I was like, why don't give a fuck about you?
Speaker 6: Did he ever go over to oh man, man, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it goes an hugs or I'm like, dog, you don't
Speaker 6: even really know Max like that though, y'all not that tight,
Speaker 6: Like come.
Speaker 1: On man, yeah, just in the back of man.
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't care that you gay, So what
Speaker 3: the fun? We're about to go fucking fight the world,
Speaker 3: and you ever talking about you gay?
Speaker 1: We'll get your gay ass. Something can help us fight, like,
Speaker 1: don't care about none of this ship what that guy
Speaker 1: my thing? But he said that gave him.
Speaker 2: His power, and that part is what bugged me. So
Speaker 2: I did like that Will got his coming out. I
Speaker 2: did think that was important. I just think the way
Speaker 2: they handled it was really, really, really bad. The other part,
Speaker 2: which we will get to in a bit, it didn't
Speaker 2: pay off. It didn't pay off because you had the
Speaker 2: same powers that you had before you came out. Now,
Speaker 2: if he came out and they got the crazy.
Speaker 3: Ass superpower saying type of shit, that's what I thought
Speaker 3: was gonna happen in the last I'm saying they did.
Speaker 1: A lot of setup, but then it went nowhere.
Speaker 3: Jaylor said that scene was longer than the fight with Victor.
Speaker 1: Facts.
Speaker 2: If he after he came out, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: we see that he has these incredct because the gay
Speaker 2: people will say being gay is my superpower.
Speaker 1: Autensive people will be like, you know, autism is.
Speaker 2: My superpower, and I love that. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: they're gonna make being gay his superpower. So if he
Speaker 2: fucking came out and was like, bow, I'm a bad bitch, now,
Speaker 2: I'd have been like, Yo, this is dope.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen. It didn't happen. I thought he was
Speaker 1: going to be able to like, well, we'll get to
Speaker 1: we'll get to what I thought with the.
Speaker 4: Mind flair, I was just looking at Mike and we
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, there was this guy that was uncomfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was. And I was looking at Mike. I was like,
Speaker 4: is Mike going to like you talking about me?
Speaker 1: He was awkward? That's what I said.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like, because this was the eighties, do
Speaker 4: you feel like their reaction, all of everybody's reaction was unrealistic.
Speaker 2: I think the entire thing was unrealistic for the eighties.
Speaker 2: But it's okay because they this show is supposed to
Speaker 2: be putting forth the idea that they're all, uh, you know, weirdos, outcasts,
Speaker 2: that type of thing.
Speaker 1: So it made sense to me.
Speaker 2: Dustin's response, Mike all his friends, Yes, yes, their response
Speaker 2: is made sense.
Speaker 3: If we wanted to be realistic, Steve would have been
Speaker 3: like hell nah, Joyce would have been like hell nam.
Speaker 3: Hopper would have been like, bro, I'm out, fuck the
Speaker 3: upside down. I don't care about nothing. We got to go.
Speaker 1: Geting, get up.
Speaker 2: He is a bad influence he already had a bald
Speaker 2: ass head before. No, I don't trust none of this,
Speaker 2: but they didn't have time to do all that.
Speaker 1: That's why I think they took too fucking long.
Speaker 2: It would have been dope if they had this revelation earlier,
Speaker 2: and then we could have saw them work through it,
Speaker 2: and then maybe by this season Hopper comes around and
Speaker 2: he's just like, you know, yeah, we got bigger fish
Speaker 2: to fry than worrying about you being gay.
Speaker 1: Because El was like, I don't even know what that.
Speaker 3: Means, like gay, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: What you mean? You know? It's not a happy time.
Speaker 2: And she didn't even have a reaction anyway, because her
Speaker 2: face is stuck.
Speaker 1: What's something going on with her?
Speaker 5: They said, lippings and some ship going on with her
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 1: Oh she got plastic surgery. I don't know that plastic surgery.
Speaker 1: I don't know what she got. Enhancements. Yeah, that makes
Speaker 1: all that. Poor girl, So I understand. I thought her
Speaker 1: acting was just terrible, that she can't move her face.
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that the whole she got like lip
Speaker 1: fillers or some ship. Did you see her smile one time? Exactly?
Speaker 3: I was too caught an ugly outfit. They kept her,
Speaker 3: they had.
Speaker 2: Costa, they had her dressing crazy, but it was insane.
Speaker 2: Was stuck dog the whole fucking season.
Speaker 1: Okay, So.
Speaker 2: Will's gay and they all break back into the military
Speaker 2: base to get back into the Upside Down, which leads
Speaker 2: us to the next and final episode, chapter eight, the
Speaker 2: Right Side Up. So they come with the plan to
Speaker 2: climb the radio tower and wait for vec to start
Speaker 2: merging the worlds. While this is happening, l Will go
Speaker 2: into Vecna's mind to fight him, which will halt the
Speaker 2: merging long enough for them to climb into the abyss
Speaker 2: from the tower so they can go fight him and
Speaker 2: the mindflare. So eleven goes into the old Tank, the
Speaker 2: old tank from season one and two, I guess, and
Speaker 2: enters Henry's mind with Max. But they're taking a long
Speaker 2: ass time to find and confront Henry.
Speaker 3: So the tower is hit by the merging worlds. Ken,
Speaker 3: did you think my man Steve was a goner?
Speaker 4: Absolutely not, because by then we already knew nobody's going
Speaker 4: to die, damn. So and while wait till the now,
Speaker 4: it would have been great if he did, you know,
Speaker 4: But nah, this is like because remember Jonathan and Steve
Speaker 4: had their little moment. It was like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: like you, and I still don't like you, and then
Speaker 4: he saved them. So it was supposed to be a moment,
Speaker 4: which I asked, Rod.
Speaker 1: Since you were there, what was the reaction.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the reaction was intense and I and that's.
Speaker 1: What I read that they ate it up. They ate
Speaker 1: it up. But we've been watching the TV a.
Speaker 4: Long time, so I don't know the making of the crowd.
Speaker 4: But everybody knew he wasn't dead. It would have been
Speaker 4: great if he fell off, you know.
Speaker 3: But Nah, did y'all think he was a goner? Nah,
Speaker 3: it's about what you said. By this time, we realized
Speaker 3: the Arnstakes, nobody's gonna die, It's gonna be happy, and
Speaker 3: then everybody's gonna be here.
Speaker 1: So hmmm, I thought he was going.
Speaker 3: Man, really, I said, fucking finally, God damn.
Speaker 2: The only thing that got me was the episode prior
Speaker 2: to Wait was it this day?
Speaker 1: Episode prior we left this part out?
Speaker 2: This is one of my my most heartfelt moments of
Speaker 2: the show. And when he was talking to Dustin and
Speaker 2: he was like, you die, I die, and then Dustin
Speaker 2: looks back and says, you die, I die.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's what I'm talking about, Bro, What
Speaker 1: did Dustin do with Steve fail? He ain't do ship?
Speaker 1: You right? You die? You did not die, He didn't
Speaker 1: do ship. He's Steve. What's yelling gonna do? What the
Speaker 1: fuck is yelling gonna do? I was like, you lying bitch.
Speaker 3: If I was Steve, I had to climb back up
Speaker 3: there and knocked fucking Dustin out, You lilying motherfucker?
Speaker 1: You right?
Speaker 2: And since when did Jonathan get this fucking he man armed?
Speaker 2: How the he's pulling him up.
Speaker 1: By one of all the way like way you would
Speaker 1: have been able to do that?
Speaker 2: This would have been so much doper if when if
Speaker 2: you if you didn't want to let him die, if
Speaker 2: Steve was falling and Dustin jumped to grab him and
Speaker 2: then Jonathan grabbed him them, so you had two people
Speaker 2: pulling him up. And it's been like, okay, this makes
Speaker 2: sense and this fulfills Dustin's response of you die, I die.
Speaker 2: But the way this happened where it cut to black,
Speaker 2: then it comes back and he's saved, I was like.
Speaker 4: Fuck y'all, they.
Speaker 2: Did it worked, It worked, It works. Unseasoned chicken. That's
Speaker 2: what they cooked.
Speaker 1: Chicken. That ship was good. It was good to him. God,
Speaker 1: this was whack to me. Bro.
Speaker 5: There wasn't many moments in the theater, but yeah, that
Speaker 5: was definitely one of them.
Speaker 4: M M, because which I could kind of get because
Speaker 4: you were like, somebody gotta die.
Speaker 1: Yes you so you think, oh, Steve is the.
Speaker 4: One, and they probably got a lot of people's psych Yeah.
Speaker 1: This was whack.
Speaker 2: So l freeze the kids and they all get to
Speaker 2: the cave where they think they're safe, and then Henry
Speaker 2: figures out what's going on and he tricks Hopper into
Speaker 2: shooting the water tank.
Speaker 1: Hopper got to be the dumbest motherfucker. I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: did you think did you think Elle was a gunner? No?
Speaker 4: I was like no, because it just didn't make any
Speaker 4: any sense, Like, how did you just fall for that ship?
Speaker 5: I kind of feel for it, what with you? Because
Speaker 5: we didn't know where Vecna had went. We didn't know
Speaker 5: where he had gone to which he left, remember he
Speaker 5: had he had left. We didn't know where he was,
Speaker 5: so we thought so I thought maybe he was making
Speaker 5: that ship, you know, trying to because he needed to
Speaker 5: he needed her to to get he needed her not
Speaker 5: to be in that tank to be able to do
Speaker 5: what she was doing. Yeah, yeah, so I thought that, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what you know. He actually was fucking making her drowned.
Speaker 2: He tricked, He tricked Hopper to see the shooting at him,
Speaker 2: and then he went and hit the tank. He fake
Speaker 2: woke up. He thought he had shot through the tank
Speaker 2: and killed L. So the old whole thing was Henry
Speaker 2: was trying to trick Hopper and you're taking hell out
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 1: Tank right right, right, right, right right. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought it was real. Yep, I did too.
Speaker 4: The only reason why is because they already said they
Speaker 4: needed L at the end of the episode with Collie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I thought that.
Speaker 2: I thought that after what they that cheap ship that
Speaker 2: they just did with Steve, I was like, they're not
Speaker 2: gonna do that again, And they fucking did it again
Speaker 2: five minutes later.
Speaker 1: Evidence to see anything safe and straight?
Speaker 5: What makes you what makes you think that he didn't like?
Speaker 5: What would be his reason and not to think that
Speaker 5: that was real?
Speaker 1: Oh for Hopper, it was just dumb for him to shoot.
Speaker 1: That was my thing with Hopper. Yeah, but he didn't
Speaker 1: know he was shooting.
Speaker 2: What was he was shooting at Vena, he was shooting
Speaker 2: at Vecna, but then Vecna wasn't actually there. My thing was,
Speaker 2: you you know, Vecna is great at these mind.
Speaker 1: Games exactly, that was my thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he had no experienced back though, right, I did,
Speaker 3: because he shot at him.
Speaker 4: But I think people knew that Vecna has these sort
Speaker 4: of powers and that he can do these sort of tricks.
Speaker 4: So and I know people listening like, come on whatever whatever,
Speaker 4: but I'm like, you know, he was playing these emotional
Speaker 4: games with him, and he was, you know, and using Eleven.
Speaker 4: But bro, Like, I just think he because I think
Speaker 4: he was even talking to Eleven and everybody else about
Speaker 4: being smart and and and not falling for the tricks
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, only for him to fall for himself.
Speaker 1: So it just seemed like it was just stupid for.
Speaker 4: Him to compromise the mission like that, you're a soldier
Speaker 4: and you knew you weren't gonna be able to kill him,
Speaker 4: like by shooting him.
Speaker 1: He's walking off out of emotion. Though. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: have a problem with this scene. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I had a problem with them not killing el M
Speaker 2: cause it's just like, man, you just I think that
Speaker 2: would have made sense, and that would have been a
Speaker 2: really like he had to pull her out and she
Speaker 2: was dying, and then she had to maybe maybe not
Speaker 2: three shots. Maybe if like one of the shots got
Speaker 2: her and then she had to do the final battle
Speaker 2: with that one shot in her, that would have been fine.
Speaker 3: Then she dies after that, that would have been fine.
Speaker 1: But it was just like, bro, why do you keep
Speaker 1: doing this fake out ship? This is lame? Okay, So
Speaker 1: what is your opportunity to have Will? Yeah? Will? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Which is your opportunity you have Will to step up? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That would have been really really fresh if after this
Speaker 2: we see Will taking the fucking lead.
Speaker 1: What ELL's gone? Guys, So I have to go into
Speaker 1: the battle. Nah nah nah.
Speaker 2: So while they're in the upside down, the Souldiers show up,
Speaker 2: where y'all sad to see that Collie was in fact,
Speaker 2: they'd gone her.
Speaker 1: No cool. I thought it was fucked up. Popper left
Speaker 1: r That ship was so funny. He was even like
Speaker 1: that he looked at it.
Speaker 5: It was so real, so real, bro. I was like,
Speaker 5: he was like, I ain't like your right.
Speaker 1: Early on he said one thing, I'm a shooter ass.
Speaker 4: He did say that. Yeah, he was like this my opportunity, bro,
Speaker 4: because I know you so bullshit. And then I think
Speaker 4: bec Man just told hop of the plan that Collie
Speaker 4: and Eleven had cooked up. But man, I was like, yo,
Speaker 4: he really left that motherfucker brother that ship was now
Speaker 4: I was actually I was actually surprised she got shot
Speaker 4: and died. I thought they were doing the because by
Speaker 4: now I was like, oh, they're gonna save her, you know.
Speaker 4: So when the shoulder soldier was right there and again
Speaker 4: they dragging it out, was like grenade and this, I
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, they're gonna save right then. So when
Speaker 4: she was actually I was like, oh, ship, they killed
Speaker 4: this motherfucker for real.
Speaker 1: We don't know m M. So Will hacks into Henry's
Speaker 1: mind again.
Speaker 2: He's trying to convince Henry to stop being the tool
Speaker 2: of the mind Flare, but it turns out Henry wanted
Speaker 2: to do this. He was never really a tool of
Speaker 2: the mind Flare, which this leads to the final battle.
Speaker 2: As Elle is fighting Vecna inside of the mind Flare,
Speaker 2: the rest of the crew fight the mind Flare on
Speaker 2: the outside with.
Speaker 3: Guns fire and a sharp stick.
Speaker 1: What'd y'all think of this final battle? I told you
Speaker 1: and Rambow was getting busy though. Nance was like, I'll
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 3: And when did Nancy become Rambow? And like, how did
Speaker 3: that happen?
Speaker 1: It's been a thing since.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she took out military trains.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do a side by between ram Yeah. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you mean a woman like that with hair like that.
Speaker 1: Best believe she can shoot. Best believe this ship was crazy.
Speaker 4: When the mother were doing the sling shot, I was like, damn,
Speaker 4: they lift this motherfucker on fire.
Speaker 1: They were stabbing it.
Speaker 4: I was like, that's that's that's a lot. And Will
Speaker 4: still didn't do ship this whole damn time.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: Will didn't do ship after he came about Bro, That's
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He's sorry. He was a sorry waste.
Speaker 4: Like they gave him that moment where he had that
Speaker 4: big moment, they did nothing else with him. All he
Speaker 4: did was cry, come out and doss it. What the
Speaker 4: fuck why? It made no sense? And they gave They
Speaker 4: gave Joyce her moment towards the end.
Speaker 1: But we're not there yet.
Speaker 4: But with this whole thing with Vechma and this revelation
Speaker 4: with him, this was another part that they added to
Speaker 4: the story that was confusing with this guy in the
Speaker 4: cave and the military thing. I still don't know what
Speaker 4: the fuck that shit is.
Speaker 1: I still don't.
Speaker 4: Know how it tied into the story outside of it.
Speaker 4: Just it's just the government shit.
Speaker 1: It was. It was the mind flare was in that rock.
Speaker 3: They making a prequel using this to Oh.
Speaker 4: It's just like they just added more shit because now
Speaker 4: you got the government, now you got this mind flare
Speaker 4: in this rock thing. You got this guy that's we
Speaker 4: don't know what the fuck he was doing in the
Speaker 4: cave and why he was there and they sent you
Speaker 4: and what and how and why this was traumatizing for him?
Speaker 1: Why was he afraid of this memory? Because he killed
Speaker 1: a person? So he was a child, but he wanted
Speaker 1: to do it, he didn't want to kill him.
Speaker 2: Well, the guy shot him in the hand, which was
Speaker 2: already unrealistic as fuck, because a fucking ten year old
Speaker 2: is shot in the hand. He's not fighting back, he's
Speaker 2: running away. But whatever, he was shot in the hand
Speaker 2: and he killed the guy with the rock.
Speaker 1: Was this enough? Absoluckingly not? Okay, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2: I get that what they were trying to say was traumatic,
Speaker 2: but this wasn't enough for me.
Speaker 4: Not when you once you got if you opened the
Speaker 4: thing and the mind Flair, it takes you over. And
Speaker 4: now you made this choice to become the mind Flair.
Speaker 4: I don't know why this memory, the origin story or
Speaker 4: villain arc was so traumatized.
Speaker 1: Give me something else. Agreed, Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2: Maybe if he had accidentally killed his friend in that
Speaker 2: cave or something, that would have been one thing.
Speaker 1: But m M, what about y'all?
Speaker 3: It wasn't enough, like you said, But I see why
Speaker 3: they did it so they could continue to which is
Speaker 3: crazy because you said that they didn't have a full
Speaker 3: story to put that there, in my opinion, only to
Speaker 3: do a prequel. I was like, Bro, we didn't need that.
Speaker 3: Y'all could have ended this story. We don't need a prequel.
Speaker 3: It should be over. You didn't have to put the
Speaker 3: mind Flare in there. If that was the wonder to
Speaker 3: be interested about the next series, just leave it alone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the kids being stuck in there and that claw
Speaker 4: thing actually being the mind Flair, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I did like that. I did like that. To
Speaker 1: the visualism on that, we're pretty dope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Before I give my thoughts on the Final Battle Rogers,
Speaker 2: you have anything that you want.
Speaker 1: To add yeah, just could have.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of with them like this could have been better,
Speaker 5: Like especially Will could have had an opportunity here to
Speaker 5: be to make it more believable. I know they were
Speaker 5: just supposed to be kind of like a distraction to
Speaker 5: give l more leverage against Vegna inside of the mind Flair,
Speaker 5: but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just it just felt like it was missing something
Speaker 1: else to me. I hated this whole thing.
Speaker 3: I hated this whole thing.
Speaker 2: This is the final battle that you built up for
Speaker 2: for five fucking.
Speaker 1: Seasons, and it made no sense.
Speaker 2: First of all, when the mind Flare came out and
Speaker 2: it was a big ass fucking monster, I was like,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Y'all about to get somebody about to die? Fuck that somebody,
Speaker 1: at least somebody should die. Somebody should die.
Speaker 2: Or at least get your arm knocked off, get your
Speaker 2: back broke. Something is about to happen. You motherfuckers shot
Speaker 2: it with bullets? Are you fucking kidding me? So the
Speaker 2: Demagorgans they shoot with bullets, and they're impervious, but it
Speaker 2: hurts the fucking mind Flare.
Speaker 1: Issue Part one two.
Speaker 2: You motherfuckers are seriously climbing up on that hill and
Speaker 2: throwing fucking rush sh RUNI they.
Speaker 1: Ran hill.
Speaker 2: And they were seriously throwing water balloons with gasoline or
Speaker 2: some shit and lighting the mind flare on fire.
Speaker 1: And this is hurting it. I was so annoyed.
Speaker 2: Then the worst part, Dustin and Steve run under it
Speaker 2: with some sticks.
Speaker 1: This is for Ednie, for Ednie, and they stabbing it
Speaker 1: in the belly. Are y'all kidding me? Are y'all kidding me?
Speaker 2: And the mind flare is getting fucked up, And no
Speaker 2: point did it get on the phone like demo gorgons.
Speaker 1: And get you what are we doing?
Speaker 2: So when I was waiting until this part to say this,
Speaker 2: when people say at least they didn't Game of Thrones us, I.
Speaker 1: Feel like they did.
Speaker 2: I feel like they did because you made all of
Speaker 2: these rules, you established all of these rules. Then you
Speaker 2: get to the final season and you throw all of
Speaker 2: the rules in the trash can.
Speaker 1: Whenever the mind.
Speaker 2: Flare was it felt threatened or it needed some shit done,
Speaker 2: it calls the fucking demogorgons. But in the final moment,
Speaker 2: nothing really, guys, nothing.
Speaker 3: Come on, dude, I see what you're saying about Thrones. Now,
Speaker 3: when you explain it that way.
Speaker 1: It's just like y'all didn't even try.
Speaker 3: It felt like y'all had such a good setup, y'all
Speaker 3: had so much good story being at the end because
Speaker 3: it's almost like fuck it a whatever. What.
Speaker 4: It's almost like they were presenting like the mind Flair
Speaker 4: was supposed to be the final Boss, yes, but it
Speaker 4: didn't really act final boss y.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: It was just like no Vekna and the mind Flare
Speaker 4: we are one and together we are the final Boss.
Speaker 3: And the thing is they put it on the table
Speaker 3: that Will could have been powerful enough to defeat it,
Speaker 3: but he didn't he use the power. All he did
Speaker 3: was break his arm off. Yeah, really, dude, that's it.
Speaker 2: You had this whole coming out party and all you
Speaker 2: can do is I'm gonna break your.
Speaker 1: Arm because she was struggling. See, I didn't even like that.
Speaker 1: Make this a little bit more realistic.
Speaker 2: Break El's leg, hurt her in some way, you slamming
Speaker 2: her around, you're vecna.
Speaker 1: It was just lame, dude.
Speaker 4: And I think he said earlier that he's gotten more powerful.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like.
Speaker 4: Yeah when she tried to when she stopped, when they
Speaker 4: had their first five.
Speaker 1: She was trash.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't seem like the same Vecna that had
Speaker 5: walked out there like a bad Yeah, what y'all doing?
Speaker 1: And I got ship to do on me. No, he
Speaker 1: wasn't that dude.
Speaker 3: No, they should have given us a little bit to
Speaker 3: make us understand why he was less powerful, Like maybe
Speaker 3: it's because he went into the cave, but that seemed
Speaker 3: like that would make him more powerful because he overcame
Speaker 3: his his fear.
Speaker 1: It was just lame, man.
Speaker 2: But what did y'all think of Joyce having the final
Speaker 2: death blow? You fuck with the wrong family, get him Joyce.
Speaker 2: I was wondering why her old ass was there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because she had no purpose before then.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I did like that she got her moment
Speaker 5: because I mean, he and and it showed like because
Speaker 5: they were trying to make us have some sort of
Speaker 5: empathy for Henry Vecna whatever. But then you're like, no,
Speaker 5: this motherfucker was harming kids, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I think it was a good moment to remind
Speaker 5: people know, this motherfucker deserted to have his head chocked up.
Speaker 1: The kids were stupid and fucked too.
Speaker 5: He wasn't molesting though, was he Technically he killed him?
Speaker 1: He didn't molesting the kids o the world. Oh Jesus Christy, right,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about. That's that's Trump. That's kind
Speaker 1: of molesting. Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: Come on, I like dip ship Derek though, I was
Speaker 3: gonna say that before we got done wrapping up.
Speaker 1: Derek is one of my favorite characters.
Speaker 2: It was funny, he was he was cute, but he
Speaker 2: wasn't enough to make this work. So yeah, so that
Speaker 2: that they killed Vecna once they leave su fumer questions here, guys,
Speaker 2: Once they leave, they're arrested by the military, but Eleven
Speaker 2: sacrifices themselves so they could all get away.
Speaker 1: Really did they like the when she killed heck Off?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was another moment?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Okay, well we already knew it was
Speaker 4: gonna have then, so well, we'll get to that later.
Speaker 4: Poor Mike Bruh Eleven always leaving his ass. Like, Bro,
Speaker 4: at this point, she might not want your ass, right,
Speaker 4: you might want to go ahead, look at the writing
Speaker 4: on the wall.
Speaker 1: Bro. She didn't even get you on yet. She gave
Speaker 1: a little kiss. We all saw. I mean, they told
Speaker 1: us it was gonna happen. It happened.
Speaker 4: So, you know, I think it may have worked for
Speaker 4: some people. I didn't think she was really going to
Speaker 4: go through with it, but she did. And I'm like, nah,
Speaker 4: she can't really be dead.
Speaker 1: There's no way.
Speaker 4: And I kept waiting and waiting like that coming back,
Speaker 4: they really got eleven. So I'm like at this point,
Speaker 4: I was like, well, I guess they had to have
Speaker 4: something like to like some some steak, some emotional hook
Speaker 4: to be like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, eleven is dead.
Speaker 4: And I was like, Okay, that's that's admirable. At this point,
Speaker 4: they waited too late.
Speaker 3: It was too predictable, like you knew that was going said,
Speaker 3: they said that was gonna happen, and it happened like
Speaker 3: it wouldn't know, Oh God moments.
Speaker 1: And poor Harp Harper, you know.
Speaker 4: But she had a conversation with him roller She was like,
Speaker 4: you know, hey, you know, I can make my own
Speaker 4: decision now, basically saying I'm not your daughter.
Speaker 1: Not basically that was not basically that's what she told him.
Speaker 3: Yes, that ship was like what just rash you as
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 1: He ain't my daughter? Like no, she wasn't that damn
Speaker 1: At this point, you are my child. Gave her back
Speaker 1: the game, gaming, bath the thing and this, that and
Speaker 1: the other. So he probably wasn't like, all right, that
Speaker 1: was real. That was real. That was I don't know
Speaker 1: why they wrote it like that. Yeah, because that's that's
Speaker 1: that's absolutely his daughter.
Speaker 5: Like it's kind of like the uh, the fucking last
Speaker 5: of Us type of ship, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, that's your fucking it was. It was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really weird because yeah, it's like we've
Speaker 4: seen that all year, and like, I guess because they
Speaker 4: have an emotional attachment and we develop an emotional attachment
Speaker 4: seeing the relationship, uh teasing us with him potentially killing
Speaker 4: her or shooting her earlier, and then her breaking this
Speaker 4: relationship by saying, I'm not your daughter, trust me, you
Speaker 4: have to trust me. I know what I'm doing, and
Speaker 4: then him letting her go to make this decision and
Speaker 4: then it happening. So you know, I don't know, called
Speaker 4: it motherfucker papa?
Speaker 2: Sure did the fuck little ship? What'd y'all think of
Speaker 2: the graduation?
Speaker 3: I know this means has been around it, but how
Speaker 3: did Alex graduate? Who actually graduate?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Because she was at school?
Speaker 3: Because she was I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1: I did not even I didn't even see what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Graduated or something. Please, I don't know. She
Speaker 1: was two years by. I know. Is I like Dustin's speech.
Speaker 1: I like dust speech. It was it was such a
Speaker 1: dusting thing. Yeah, that's what Eddie said he would do.
Speaker 1: So that's what. That's what.
Speaker 3: And I just rewatched it all. So, yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 3: what Eddie. That's why they played the Iron Maiden the
Speaker 3: Trooper when it happened.
Speaker 1: That's why he had the health fire shirt on. I
Speaker 1: love that. That was really exact.
Speaker 5: I looked at principal and the game a big fun
Speaker 5: just snatched my award, and.
Speaker 1: That's what he did. It probably would have hit different
Speaker 1: about if you knew that. Yeah, it hit real hard
Speaker 1: for me. That was Eddie's. But yeah, I have that.
Speaker 1: I had just binged. The whole ship had just binged.
Speaker 1: So good man, that was That is dope. That is dope.
Speaker 1: You take my life and I'll take yours too. He
Speaker 1: was happy he got masked.
Speaker 4: Bro y'all see him come on outool to us.
Speaker 1: He grabbed about the ways and ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when she was doing a little skateboard things, yeah,
Speaker 2: That's why I thought it was way later because she
Speaker 2: was walking again.
Speaker 1: So maybe she took some classes at home.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, he did come out and
Speaker 2: looking like somebody's fucking old ass uncle looking girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come take a look at you. It will take
Speaker 1: a look at your girl. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But she looked at him like it was weird, though,
Speaker 3: I don't blame her. She's like, you're old as fuck.
Speaker 1: Like you're feeling touchy today.
Speaker 3: Huh you ride that skateboard?
Speaker 1: She was like, what you do?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Come on, come here, girl, come close? Three feet three feet?
Speaker 1: All right? So this is the end of the of
Speaker 1: the episode.
Speaker 2: What'd you think of the final gathering of the older
Speaker 2: kids talk about Jonathan, Steve, Nancy Robin.
Speaker 1: That was lame. That was lame. His Yeah, it ain't
Speaker 1: even a big story, not even about y'all. We don't
Speaker 1: even see y'all.
Speaker 3: Damn, Like we got the injiney with the kids that
Speaker 3: we started with this we don't care what y'all.
Speaker 1: Just wrapped everything up.
Speaker 4: And my thing was when the final battle in it
Speaker 4: and I saw we still have forty minutes?
Speaker 1: Crazy?
Speaker 4: Was I the only one that was like, what the
Speaker 4: it happened?
Speaker 1: I was like, this is like, we're gonna fight again.
Speaker 1: Some gotta be coming back from was gonna come back?
Speaker 1: I thought the same ship. I was like, there's no way.
Speaker 1: What else do we need to know? A lot? Apparently?
Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently we need to get every single body story
Speaker 4: and that's what they gave.
Speaker 1: Jonathan's a filmmaker, nantes and reporters, multiple women.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Robin ain't got no girl no more apparently
Speaker 3: because they just I don't know what happened to.
Speaker 1: Her work at the station. This was Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: This was wrap up was crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was Anybody else got anything I say about
Speaker 1: this part? Nah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like I said, a lot of these
Speaker 5: scenes just ran way too long.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: So what did y'all think of the very final scene,
Speaker 3: which was the gathering of the younger kids, Will Duncan.
Speaker 1: Mike Lucas there playing the game.
Speaker 2: They're playing the game and then Mike tells the story
Speaker 2: and they're all crying.
Speaker 3: I thought, you a better story to tell her than that?
Speaker 3: And then he told the one.
Speaker 1: I like that. That was good. That was actually good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like you are right, this is the one
Speaker 5: that everybody had waiting on. This is the actual closer, Like, no,
Speaker 5: they did good here to ended with them playing D
Speaker 5: n D like that that. It was a perfect even
Speaker 5: the way they set it up with the sprinklers in
Speaker 5: the beginning, all of that was like a callback to
Speaker 5: the first episode. So it's just like, damn they did that.
Speaker 4: It started with them in that game. It carried over
Speaker 4: throughout all the seasons. Even every time they brought it up,
Speaker 4: somebody was like, oh lord, which was funny to me.
Speaker 1: And I think.
Speaker 4: Maybe this is, as you mentioned earlier, Mike, the safest,
Speaker 4: easiest way to do it, to give people two endings,
Speaker 4: one where she died and the possibility of her being.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just gutless to me, it's gutless.
Speaker 3: She died, and she didn't like, don't give us that
Speaker 3: legs that I agree with you did.
Speaker 4: And and I'm going back to the conversation she had
Speaker 4: because now I'm like, she said, trust me, you gotta
Speaker 4: trust me in this situation.
Speaker 1: And what did that mean?
Speaker 4: We? You know, did it mean what Mike is making
Speaker 4: up in his head? Is that what he's saying to
Speaker 4: himself or is she really dead? I you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know, Like, what does the trust state sentence.
Speaker 1: Mean, it was really ambiguous.
Speaker 2: My thing is this, if I'm Mike, I can't believe
Speaker 2: that she's alive, because that's fucked up. You're alive and
Speaker 2: you go and you're living in some dope ass village
Speaker 2: somewhere where three waterfalls would live.
Speaker 1: It was my idea. Everybody can't go. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, everybody Cabody can't go. Man, Nah, this was
Speaker 1: this was crazy. I believe. I'm like, y'all better not
Speaker 1: believe this ship My girl left me. Ah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't like that.
Speaker 3: It would be like on Thrones if Brand told us
Speaker 3: a story that Denarius walked away from the and she
Speaker 3: living somewhere with the dragon, like what?
Speaker 1: But it does make that.
Speaker 2: The thing that bothers me is it does make sense
Speaker 2: because after graduation, Mike here's the speaker, and that makes
Speaker 2: him think of the machine that remember that machine that
Speaker 2: stops their powers. So that's when he tells that story.
Speaker 2: Those machines were on so Elle didn't have her powers.
Speaker 2: So when he says, oh, Colly was just putting up
Speaker 2: a fake out or whatever, it's like, Oh, there's your
Speaker 2: fucking out, you cheap, gutless fuckers, they cheated.
Speaker 1: They absolutely, that's what I said. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: but you know, I totally get it.
Speaker 4: I understand why they did it because there's a huge
Speaker 4: number of people that I wouldn't like that, but I
Speaker 4: think it makes for a better story. You know, five
Speaker 4: years she sacrificed herself for everybody because she's been trying
Speaker 4: to do this ship since what season one two?
Speaker 1: She died over and over. Yes, so it fits who
Speaker 1: she is.
Speaker 4: She'll be easy to find because if he believes that,
Speaker 4: he just needs to go to those places.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: The other thing I saw and I can't believe this
Speaker 4: is a real thing. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 4: saw it, but people thought this was a fake season finale.
Speaker 1: It's gonna come back. You have seen this.
Speaker 5: This is the craziest, man, Like, it was a rumor
Speaker 5: like that some sort of conformity gate was opening.
Speaker 1: And this was just yeah, yeah, I didn't look it up.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, it was something like like it was a
Speaker 5: way that this this was like, can't say it's a fake.
Speaker 5: And then it was supposed to come out on Wednesday
Speaker 5: at eight pm or something.
Speaker 1: Like they built this whole thing.
Speaker 4: Man, they think all this ship is made up bro.
Speaker 1: So do they think that there's going to be another
Speaker 1: And yes, they don't.
Speaker 5: Now they got it didn't come out. Yeah, but they
Speaker 5: thought it was up until Wednesday based on something on
Speaker 5: the bookshelf. It was the way the words were, the
Speaker 5: letters were, and.
Speaker 1: They took that ship.
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, they went full conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: They did not want to accept the end.
Speaker 4: They did not want to say up the Stranger Things
Speaker 4: were over. So they were like, yeah, this is there's
Speaker 4: gonna be another episode, drop it later. Yeah, and the
Speaker 4: guy I didn't see them the bunkeet, but I did
Speaker 4: see the guy was like, nah, I think it's it's over,
Speaker 4: you know, sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was both like four kids. They were like no,
Speaker 1: I can't in like this, this can't be. It's gotta
Speaker 1: be some whip except it.
Speaker 2: Well, that one is they will have a prequel, as
Speaker 2: Spike alluded to.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna test you. I'm sure you're right.
Speaker 2: And then they also have another show coming out called
Speaker 2: Stranger Things something like what Happened in eighty five or
Speaker 2: some ship. So there's a live action prequel that is
Speaker 2: a you said it was a prequel. I thought it
Speaker 2: was just like you know what, I did know that.
Speaker 2: I did know that the live action one is supposed
Speaker 2: to be a prequel to what happened with the Mind Flare.
Speaker 2: But then there's another show that's a cartoon that is
Speaker 2: the same kids, So it's just going back.
Speaker 1: They're like doing a.
Speaker 2: Star Wars yeah, during like two of the seasons, because
Speaker 2: there was like a huge time jump between like three
Speaker 2: and four maybe ors either two and three or three
Speaker 2: and four. So they're going back and they're telling what
Speaker 2: happened during animation.
Speaker 1: Is easy because you don't have to deal with age.
Speaker 3: If you didn't have an ending, what story rolled out,
Speaker 3: why would you go back and try to fill in
Speaker 3: the gaps?
Speaker 1: Now that's crazy because it's it's a huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same reason they're doing that ship with
Speaker 2: Star Wars.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a fucking ending.
Speaker 2: So then now they're going back in time doing Mandalorian
Speaker 2: and other ship to make the whack ass ending they
Speaker 2: actually did make sense.
Speaker 4: And that's why they didn't want to give a definitive
Speaker 4: conclusion to the.
Speaker 1: Store that far. Oh yeah, they left it open. They
Speaker 1: still left it.
Speaker 4: Open, yees, So they can double back because twenty thirty
Speaker 4: forty years from now when all these people grew up
Speaker 4: watching it.
Speaker 1: There. Yeah, this is their star. That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: At some point, they're going to get back to current
Speaker 2: time and then the something's gonna come back, the mind
Speaker 2: flare or something's gonna come back, and then they're gonna
Speaker 2: be fighting it, and then they're gonna look over and
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a leather on the.
Speaker 1: Top of a hill.
Speaker 2: Maybe the song will play, be running up that hill,
Speaker 2: and she's gonna come in there and she's gonna help
Speaker 2: them fight it.
Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: But we don't need it, man, y'all could have just
Speaker 2: wrapped this story up with a nice bow. It just
Speaker 2: all feels so gutless. That's the only word that comes
Speaker 2: to my mind. It's just gutless. At least Game of
Speaker 2: Thrones was trash, but at least they fucking committed. They
Speaker 2: committed to a trash ass ending. Y'all are just like,
Speaker 2: we don't want to piss anybody off, so we'll just
Speaker 2: give you some bullshit that could go this way or
Speaker 2: go that way.
Speaker 1: Whack whack. It's funny about Game of Thrones.
Speaker 5: They still doing the same thing that they're trying to
Speaker 5: do what's that going back doing?
Speaker 1: Prel gave you all this, but we're still gonna go
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 4: Well, some of that stuff is already written, so they're
Speaker 4: not even making it up. I think they're gonna the
Speaker 4: dumb is gonna make all this ship up doing it.
Speaker 2: That's the funniest part. The Duffer brother aren't even doing it.
Speaker 2: They're handing it off to somebody else.
Speaker 3: They're like, I'm over this.
Speaker 1: Nine years of my life and we gave you all
Speaker 1: some bullshit. That's an ending. I'm not gonna write no
Speaker 1: more of this bullshit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when it comes the kids shows, you
Speaker 4: have to say, we're just doing three years and that's it.
Speaker 4: Three seasons and you have to protect the kids aging.
Speaker 4: You just have to protect against it, so you.
Speaker 3: Can't wait so long in the seasons. Man, that's their fault.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's Netflix's fault or if that's
Speaker 2: Duffer Brother's fault, but.
Speaker 1: Y'all fuck this up. Yep.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was not happy with the ending. I
Speaker 2: think it was okay. I think they could have done
Speaker 2: a lot better. That's my stance.
Speaker 3: Do you think any one of those kids gonna go
Speaker 3: on to be like stars.
Speaker 1: Lucas, Lucas know, White Lotus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's casting and I was like, how the fun?
Speaker 2: But when they showed a picture of him and I was.
Speaker 1: Like this fucking look forty. Yeah, you can be a White.
Speaker 4: Lotus and Mike, I think they Mike has been in stuff.
Speaker 1: He's not a good actor, so it's going to be
Speaker 1: the new I'm sorry, I'm bad. What are you saying? No,
Speaker 1: I was just saying, I don't know if it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's working for him. But he's
Speaker 1: been in movies. Oh has he? I thought Mike has Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I know. He's in a band. I didn't
Speaker 1: know he's another movie. He wasn't it? You're right? But
Speaker 1: he played he played the same fucking.
Speaker 5: Role he played in Ghostbusters too, and he played the
Speaker 5: same role. Yeah, but he can't play it anymore because
Speaker 5: now he's old, right, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 5: now he can't play a kid anymore.
Speaker 1: I thought he was a teenager and Ghostbusters he was
Speaker 1: still young.
Speaker 3: Like if you go because I love that Ghostbusters film,
Speaker 3: if you go back.
Speaker 2: And look, he was still very young. And now he
Speaker 2: looks like he's at least twenty.
Speaker 4: Because they did that whole young old thing in the
Speaker 4: in the in the final episode two.
Speaker 3: Yes, I like to see Dustin see how he plays
Speaker 3: out for him.
Speaker 1: I think he does. I think. So you've seen Eddie
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Eddie's been in everything, so he's getting them
Speaker 3: more his career.
Speaker 1: Man in Marvel. Oh wow. The rumored that she's gonna
Speaker 1: be Jane Gray. I thought I saw, Damn, who did
Speaker 1: I see? Is it Jane Gray?
Speaker 2: That's what I've seen. I don't know if you saw.
Speaker 2: I thought it was something. I thought it was somebody else.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought she's gonna be in Spider Man.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I did see that rumor because they were saying she
Speaker 3: might be Mary Jane.
Speaker 1: Because she has the red hair and stuff.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, they haven't released but they said that
Speaker 2: she is absolutely joining Marvel. But nobody knows as what
Speaker 2: she could be Jean Gray or she could what you say,
Speaker 2: it was a night show what it was. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: she could be in Spider Man, she could be an
Speaker 2: X Men. But she's gonna I think she's gonna be Okay.
Speaker 2: She's a good actor. She's a good actor. Lucas is
Speaker 2: a good actor. Will is terrible, Mike is not great,
Speaker 2: Jonathan not great, Steve is just in something recently.
Speaker 1: A couple of times.
Speaker 3: I've seen Stephen a couple of things. I've seen Jonathan
Speaker 3: in a couple of things.
Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't seen Jonathan or anything.
Speaker 5: I saw a rumor of Lucas being Marssel Rales live action.
Speaker 2: That could be dope, but there's nothing about him that
Speaker 2: says Spanish to me. But I was still I like him.
Speaker 2: I think he's a good actor. So you sure he's
Speaker 2: not gonna be playing like Miles Morouse's uncle or some
Speaker 2: shit stupid the Prowler.
Speaker 1: All right, So that's our that's our review. Anybody got
Speaker 1: any final thoughts.
Speaker 4: I'm glad it's over. I didn't know it's been nine
Speaker 4: years until they told me. I can only imagine what
Speaker 4: it's like starting out at nine and now being nineteen
Speaker 4: watching some shit like that. That has to be a crazy,
Speaker 4: wild shit for them to experience. It got to a
Speaker 4: point where you get to four or five, it was
Speaker 4: just as Austin, they just started adding so much stuff
Speaker 4: to it. I still enjoyed it, I still love being there,
Speaker 4: but it just started to become bloated and heavy, a
Speaker 4: lot of characters and shit, it's just it's hard to
Speaker 4: keep up with it. So I'm glad that we're done.
Speaker 4: We're done here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't think I would enjoy it at all.
Speaker 3: But when I did sit down and watch it, it wasn't horrible. Okay,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't as good as I wanted it to be.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't horrible, So I wasn't mad at it.
Speaker 1: If you if you would have started from season.
Speaker 4: One, it started all the way over, you know, if
Speaker 4: you would have started with us, with everybody time.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I started. I was. I just felt when
Speaker 1: it first came out, I watched it, I.
Speaker 3: Just started dust t shirt and some motion when absolutely
Speaker 3: I'm super into this. When it first came out, it
Speaker 3: just got too long, Like, yeah, I was into you.
Speaker 1: Had never seen it.
Speaker 3: I was dating girl at the time, trying to get
Speaker 3: her to watch it. Like I was into this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because when Jalen has said it, you made it
Speaker 4: seem like you.
Speaker 3: I just fell off of it, like when Teason four
Speaker 3: came around and the death, like I had gotten tired
Speaker 3: of it in season four and then I seen the
Speaker 3: finale it was like two hours.
Speaker 1: I'm not Oh, last thing. How was the theater experience,
Speaker 1: because I saw it went really well for them? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was cool.
Speaker 5: Like I thought it was gonna be a little bit
Speaker 5: more like I thought it was gonna be a lot
Speaker 5: of like cheering and like, oh, some crime moments too,
Speaker 5: like people were crying. Yeah, it was crime moments, pussy's
Speaker 5: And I thought it was gonna be clap moments at
Speaker 5: the end, but it wasn't any clap moments.
Speaker 4: I think I saw reports that they were that were
Speaker 4: moments of that. So I don't know you had went,
Speaker 4: so I was just kind of curious to see what
Speaker 4: it was like. Yeah, it was like watching it on
Speaker 4: the bit screen, though, was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool. I mean it was different. It's weird.
Speaker 5: I thought it was gonna feel different for some reason,
Speaker 5: but it just didn't. Like It's almost like I would
Speaker 5: have rather it be in my in my living room
Speaker 5: because it's like I'm so used to to watching it there,
Speaker 5: So it was weird watching it in a theater or whatever.
Speaker 5: It was like, this feels weird, you know, but it
Speaker 5: was still cool. Like I don't know if y'all know,
Speaker 5: but you get like a food voucher and drinks and ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she paid for it. They give you. It's
Speaker 1: like you didn't pay for the movie.
Speaker 5: You just basically paid for like your food and drink
Speaker 5: and then So yeah, it was It was an interesting concept.
Speaker 4: I wish I would have a chance to go just
Speaker 4: to experience it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's cool. It was cool. I had to breathe.
Speaker 5: She was in town for you know, out of college
Speaker 5: and stuff, so that was cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, so yeah, that was more than anything, like
Speaker 5: just having that experience like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta do it. I think I think this
Speaker 1: is one of those moments you can go. I was there,
Speaker 1: you got to experience it. I was there. I might disagree, but.
Speaker 2: I would have been pissed if I took my ass
Speaker 2: to the fucking theater and watched this show.
Speaker 1: Okay, I do agree with you.
Speaker 4: I don't think I would have been pissed, but I
Speaker 4: do see why you say you would have been pissed
Speaker 4: if you went through that experience just to get that.
Speaker 1: And just for the record, I didn't hate the ending
Speaker 1: as much as you. Yeah, I can tell thing. I
Speaker 1: didn't hate it as much as you.
Speaker 5: I do think it was a little gutless, but I
Speaker 5: almost kind of expected them to do it like this,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. That's like, yeah, they're just
Speaker 5: gonna play safe at this point, and you know, I
Speaker 5: don't know why I thought anything different. I was almost
Speaker 5: mad at myself for this. No, they weren't gonna do that,
Speaker 5: so I was just like, you know, I wasn't disappointed.
Speaker 2: You know, Well, good, I'm glad you were not disappointed.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll all be here for this Stranger Things prequel.
Speaker 2: We'll see how that goes. But but yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: well y'all were asking for it. Here it is, so
Speaker 2: y'all better run these views up, goddamn leave some comments,
Speaker 2: share it with a friend or two
Speaker 1: And we will see y'all next time we out.