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Speaker 3: You are not going to believe the company, this company.

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Speaker 1: You're going to bankrupt your mama's company. At least I

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Speaker 3: On ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 3: Harry Carey, of course, on the call, Ryan Samberg not

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Speaker 3: known as the Ryan Samberg Game June twenty third of

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Speaker 3: of Hall of Famer Bruce Souiter overcame deficits not once

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Speaker 3: announcement from the Chicago Cubs at the age of sixty five,

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Speaker 3: I realized much has been said about Samberg since then.

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Speaker 3: Many of you have shared sentiments as well, and I

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Speaker 3: fair question to ask why a talking head doing sports

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Speaker 3: on a day when all of those things happen. Also

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Speaker 3: Indiana Fever, Stephanie White, is going to join us, and

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Speaker 3: the question about Caitlin Clark's availability fair to ask those questions.

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Speaker 3: to you what was just posted on the expost Twitter

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well today? How about to show you know what?

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Speaker 3: Over the course of your career, you have obviously taken

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Speaker 6: They are very similar. And I don't think people realize,

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Speaker 3: This is the most and Jonathan Taylor, you know I've

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Speaker 6: I like to think that I'm always like this, But

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Speaker 6: You might have to talk to coach psych and we

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Speaker 6: That's the type of edge that we need in order

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Speaker 1: Go this year.

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Speaker 3: Somebody asked me this question, Jonathan Taylor, so I'll ask

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Speaker 3: speak a lot. So is he one of those that

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Speaker 3: when he does, you know it means business or are

437
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: we just kind of hidden from the real gregarious nature

438
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Speaker 3: of Quentin Nelson.

439
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Speaker 1: No.

440
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Speaker 6: Quinton definitely definitely won't say a whole lot, but like

441
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Speaker 6: you mentioned, when he speaks powerful.

442
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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, our guest, All right, let's get to this

443
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Speaker 3: before we let you get back into meetings, Jonathan, in

444
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Speaker 3: terms of you personally, where you are right now, in

445
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Speaker 3: terms of just kind of getting the feel again for

446
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: the speed of the season, and I guess if you will,

447
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Speaker 3: what things do you still feel like you need to

448
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 3: work on or you need to perfect before we get

449
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Speaker 3: into week one.

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Speaker 6: Definitely being efficient. There's never a time where even if

451
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 6: things break down with the blocking scheme up front, can

452
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 6: you get back to the line of scrimmage. Can you

453
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Speaker 6: turn a no gain or a negative gain into a

454
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Speaker 6: one to two yard game is at the end of

455
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Speaker 6: the day, continuing to move the sticks forward, continuing to

456
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 6: be able to move the change is something that a

457
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 6: great running back is able to do it that helps

458
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 6: the offense. That helps the offense, especially when you get

459
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Speaker 6: towards third down. So it's not third and eleven, third

460
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 6: and ten. Now at the worst, you may be working

461
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 6: with third and seven or third and six. So I

462
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 6: will say being able to work on that is definitely

463
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 6: something that I still want to make sure that I'm

464
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Speaker 6: pushing forward the start of this season.

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Speaker 3: By the way, November fifteenth, Wisconsin at Indiana, Kurtz Signetti,

466
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Speaker 3: they're going to do it again? Is Indiana going to

467
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Speaker 3: stun Wisconsin here?

468
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Speaker 1: No?

469
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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, no not at all, not

470
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Speaker 6: at all. Listen, Wisconsin, although we had to kind of

471
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Speaker 6: get our feet underneath us, that's all. That's nice and cool.

472
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Speaker 6: But now it's time for Wisconsin. They get back to

473
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Speaker 6: Wisconsin football. And I'm really looking forward to those guys

474
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Speaker 6: taking that next step forward this year.

475
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Speaker 3: Jonathan. It is always a pleasure, man. I appreciate the optimism,

476
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,239
Speaker 3: the energy, the good vibes, the sunshine, all of it.

477
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: And obviously we don't need any more heat out at

478
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 3: Colts Camp. But mind your p's and q's with those

479
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: guys that are flying around making plays. But certainly look

480
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: forward to having you back on the program. And I

481
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: appreciate the time today well to let you get back

482
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: into your position meetings here.

483
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Speaker 6: Thank you very much, man, I appreciate you.

484
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Speaker 3: Hi, Jonathan Taylor joining us on the program again. Big

485
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: show lined up for you today. Stephanie White going to

486
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: join as Stephen Holder as well as we roll along

487
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: here on a Tuesday, quarrying company on the fan. How

488
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: about this for serendipitous. Kylon Talley not even realizing coming

489
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Speaker 3: off of the comments from Jonathan Taylor the Badger that

490
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Speaker 3: this is the song that has played in Camp Randall

491
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Speaker 3: Stadium at the University of Wisconsin starting every fourth quarter,

492
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: they all jump around for now they mute out the

493
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Speaker 3: one part where he sings inappropriately about violence in this song,

494
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: but nonetheless that is the Wisconsin Badger song. I've always

495
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: thought it'd be cool to go to Camp Randall strictly

496
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: for that moment of everybody jumping around to start quarter

497
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Speaker 3: number four. Oftentimes you see the opposing team even getting involved.

498
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 3: You just heard the radio call from Nick Yeoman from

499
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 3: the end of the brickyard four hundred and when it

500
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: comes to the quarterback competition, I thought of a racing

501
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: I finally, for the first time thought of it. It

502
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: was another one of my three twenty eight in the

503
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Speaker 3: morning brain droppings, a racing analogy as it comes and

504
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: relates to the quarterback competition for the Colts, and I'm

505
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: going to repeat daily daily. I'm going to repeat what

506
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: I have said since the beginning of camp, and that

507
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 3: is that if Daniel Jones is the starting quarterback for

508
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: the Colts in week one, it probably is going to

509
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: be far less about Daniel Jones being the starter, not

510
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: because he won the job, but because he just didn't

511
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Speaker 3: lose it. Because I think with everything that you look

512
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Speaker 3: at in involved with Anthony Richardson, they need Anthony Richardson

513
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: to be that guy Richardson today. And I take this

514
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: with a huge, huge I'm warning everybody right now, please

515
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: make sure you're checking your blood pressure because I'm about

516
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: to give you a huge grain of salt. Okay, and

517
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: that's sodia. It might be bad for you, but with

518
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: a grain of salt, I offer to you this. This

519
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 3: from a friend of the station, Jake Arthur. Anthony Richardson

520
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: has had another excellent day today at camp. Earlier today,

521
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: Camp wrapped up just about an hour ago nine of

522
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: eleven during eleven on elevens with touchdowns to Michael Pittman junior,

523
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: Moiley Cox, and Josh Downs. I go back to what

524
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: JJ Watt said in the form of you just don't

525
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 3: know what it is that maybe you know they're working

526
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Speaker 3: on what it may be. I mean, for all you know,

527
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: it may be that lou Anarumo was like, you know what,

528
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: I really want to test out this undrafted free agent

529
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: corner that probably is not going to make the squad,

530
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: but I want to see how he fares against you know,

531
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Speaker 3: a Michael Pittman junior and a slant and so we're

532
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 3: going to put him in there in a nickel spot whatever.

533
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: You know, you never know what could lead to those situations.

534
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: But you'd rather see that than not see that. But

535
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: I got to think it about just the brickyard and

536
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: then racing in general and the quarterback competition. And I

537
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: thought about Anthony Richardson and Gardner Minshew or Matt Ryan

538
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: and Sam Ellinger or Andrew Luck and Jacoby Brissett. And

539
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: you heard Jonathan Taylor talk about it with the athleticism

540
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: of Daniel Jones, the wheels of Daniel Jones, the legs

541
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Speaker 3: of Daniel Jones. And the more that I thought about it,

542
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: I thought about this and I could use it in

543
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: an old school Indy five hundred analogy. Maybe to put

544
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: it in more recent terms, I'll go with, say, like

545
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: the twenty four hour Lama. If you've seen the F

546
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: one movie with Brad Pitt, it starts out with showing

547
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: him in an IMSA race where he goes in as

548
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: a relief driver. Okay, when you have drivers that are

549
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: driving the same race car and you're making a quick

550
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: change during a pit stop and bringing them in, Ideally

551
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: what you want is drivers that drive a similar car

552
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: to one another, because it would make no sense at

553
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: all to have somebody go out and run, you know,

554
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: four hour stent in an endurance race and then have

555
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: him come in and be replaced by a guy who

556
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: if one guy likes the car to be really tight

557
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: in the corners, one guy likes the car to be,

558
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: you know, to have like a maybe a more free style,

559
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: like some guys like a car that, you know, you

560
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: kind of feel like you're sliding all over the place

561
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: because it gives you more freedom to put the car

562
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: where you need to go, you know whatever. If one

563
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: guy prefers one style and setup of the car from

564
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: an engineering standpoint, it would be foolish to then put

565
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Speaker 3: another driver in there that likes the car in a

566
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: completely different format, because you don't have time to make

567
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: the adjustment to it. And it feels like this is

568
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: the first time in a quarterback competition for the Colts

569
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Speaker 3: that you have two quarterbacks that drive the same car,

570
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 3: and so stylistically you are not having to alter a

571
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: lot whether you're going with Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson,

572
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: and that could be advantage in the course of a game.

573
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Speaker 3: For example, if Richardson is your starter and either he

574
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Speaker 3: gets dinged up and leaves the game, or he taps

575
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: his helmet and leaves the game. Let's hope that never

576
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: happens again. But either way, if that were to be

577
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: the case, and you have an in game change or

578
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: an in game sub institution. You know a lot of

579
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: times you see a guy that comes in and he

580
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: spells for one drive, and things are really vanilla because

581
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: your game plan, the plays that you've scripted, whatever it

582
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: might be, are designed for quarterback A. Then quarterback B

583
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: comes in and you're like, well, wait a minute, we

584
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: got to run a whole different package here with these

585
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks. I think both of them are guys that

586
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: need to get in rhythm with short intermediary passes. Both

587
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: of them are guys that can potentially hit like a

588
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: long ball, a deep pass behind the defense to it

589
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce, let's say, or you know, an Ady Mitchell

590
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: or whoever it might be, and they have that potential,

591
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: but what you need before that is them hitting the layups.

592
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: And both of them are guys that kentuck and run

593
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: and have good legs. You hear Jonathan Taylor talking about

594
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: with Daniel Jones, and we certainly know that's the case

595
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: with Richardson and his physicality and his speed. So they

596
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: bring the same tools to the party. They bring the

597
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: same threat offensively and the same scheme that you need

598
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: to showcase them. So That's the one positive I think

599
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: is in the fact that whichever guy you go with,

600
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Speaker 3: if you've got to spell now the last, you don't

601
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: want to do this. There is nothing in the world

602
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: I think that is ever a worse idea than the

603
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: whole quarterback by committee. Somebody plays four plays, comes out

604
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: back in. I mean, that never works. It never works.

605
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: Every every coach thinks he can make that change, be

606
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: that guy. And what do we always say. I mean,

607
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: we always say the same thing, and that is that

608
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: if you have two quarterbacks you got none, you don't

609
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: want to do it over the course of it of

610
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: going back and forth and you know, oscillating back and forth.

611
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: That that never works. Right, But if you need to

612
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: go in and you're in a mid drive and somebody,

613
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: you know, even if it's an equipment malfunction, somebody's got

614
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: a shoulder pad of posse, whatever, I just think it

615
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: helps to have two guys that are that play the

616
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: same style, that do the same thing. And look, I've

617
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing greater and I know I'm going

618
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: on the way back here, but there was nothing greater

619
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: than when Ron Meyer decided they were going to run

620
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: the wishbone. I mean, that's what I'm talking about, where

621
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Speaker 3: if you have no quarter if you have three quarterbacks,

622
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: you got none. So the Colts go out they are

623
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Speaker 3: I can't remember if I think it was Chris Chandler

624
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: was the quarterback, soho I thought it was a good player.

625
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: And then Ron Meyer decides because Jim Errsay and Ron

626
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: Meyer had been together at SMU and they saw the

627
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: success of the Wishbone and they went out and they

628
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: had you know, that team had Craig James and had

629
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Speaker 3: Eric Dickerson. So Jim Mersay goes out makes the trade

630
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: for Eric Dickerson. And then one day he and Ron

631
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: Meyer sitting around and Ron Meyer says, you know, we

632
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: should run the wishbone again. All right, let's do it.

633
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: You know we got Albert Bentley, we got Eric Dickerson.

634
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: You know we got a Bentley in the roles in

635
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: the same backfield. So let's go out and let's get

636
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: ourselves a wishbone quarterback. So they go they call Ricky Turner,

637
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: and Ricky Turner had run the wishbone at Washington State

638
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: and he's operating a cement truck in like Spokane, Washington,

639
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: and literally he is literally like when they call the

640
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: manager in Major League and Louz says.

641
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Can I get back to you.

642
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: I got a guy in the other line about some

643
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: white walls, and then he decides to be the manager. Literally,

644
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 3: they call Ricky Turner and he's like, let me get

645
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: back to you. I gotta go ahead. I've got a

646
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: huge thing of cementing here. I've got a poor at

647
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: a construction site, and I'll call you back in twenty

648
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: and see if you want me to fly and be

649
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: an NFL quarterback. But they brought him, and so then

650
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: you had You're gonna run the wishbone on some plays.

651
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: You're gonna run like almost like a West Coast offense

652
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: on some plays. I mean, what are we doing? What

653
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 3: are we doing? So I like the feel of knowing

654
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 3: that you got two guys doing the same thing. It's

655
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: advantageous and you get you can you could over to

656
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: go back to a racing line. The best line I've

657
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: ever heard from an athlete to me. During an interview,

658
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: I asked one of the most brilliant in depth questions

659
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: of all time to Juan Montoya and wi Montoya said, see,

660
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: you're doing what too many race car drivers do. I

661
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: go what's that, And he goes, don't overthink it. I

662
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: get a car, I go fast, don't overthink it. Get

663
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: in the car, I turn left, I go fast. I

664
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: find a line. Too many guys overthink it, and I

665
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: think sometimes at the quarterback position you overthink it. In

666
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: the Colts case, I don't think this is a year

667
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: they're going to overthink it. They got two guys that

668
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: play similar They got two guys that do a similar

669
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: style and bring a similar skill set and have similar

670
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: attributes and similar drawbacks, and one of which is still

671
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: one of which is trying to prove that the team

672
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 3: that drafted him made the right pick, and the other

673
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: of which is trying to prove that the team that

674
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: drafted him high and gave up gave up too early.

675
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: And Daniel Jones has to look at Anthony Richardson and say,

676
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: that's the situation I was in New York, and I

677
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: know what happened there. I saw how that story ended,

678
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: And he doesn't want to see that story in that

679
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: way for Anthony Richardson. But Daniel Jones also knows that

680
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: part of Daniel Jones' redemption tour is perhaps writing that

681
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 3: epitaph on the Indianapolis portion of Anthony Richardson's time, and yes,

682
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: Richardson looked good, and yes we've been there before, and

683
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: yes we promised ourselves we wouldn't read too much into it,

684
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: don't overthink it, right, But I'd rather talk about that

685
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 3: than talk about the opposite of that. There is one

686
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: player today again grain of salt, admittedly, but get your

687
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: popcorn because I got more salt for you. Because there

688
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: is another guy that showed out today. There's a guy

689
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: that finally arrived. There's a guy today that found the

690
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: map to Westfield and arrived and it was like, here

691
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: we go, and I'll tell you who that is next.

692
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: So I would like to point out that we have

693
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: had on this show since camp began the following Okay,

694
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor earlier, great conversation. Matter of fact, he called

695
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: in right off the top of the show very shortly thereafter.

696
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: So in case you missed that, may because we just

697
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: had him for a couple of minutes, but I thought

698
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 3: it was really good stuff. May replay that before the

699
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: end of the program. Don't typically do that, but I

700
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: think in that case because it was pretty good and

701
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: I thought he had some pretty good insight not only

702
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: about the quarterback position just but about leadership in general

703
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: with the Colts. But we have had on since the

704
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: beginning of camp. We had Bernard Ryman, We've had Cam Binden,

705
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: who was great, we had Jalen Jones, and we had

706
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce. Okay, now Alec Pierce has a blister on

707
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: his foot, but he is back on the practice field.

708
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: He was back out there today, but he did miss

709
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: time yesterday with that blister, Okay, So I don't think

710
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: you can call that any sort of a show, Jenks.

711
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 3: Jalen Jones today did leave the field with what appeared

712
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: to be a hamstring injury, and we certainly hope that

713
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: it is nothing more than that for both himself and

714
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: the depth at that corner position. But it didn't look

715
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: like it was the kind of thing that would. But

716
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: you never know. You never know. So I'm not a doctor.

717
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: It's dangerous to me to say, but you know, you

718
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: look at those two and you think, yesh. But then

719
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: Bernard Ryman, listen, it's not my place to come on

720
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 3: from twelve to three on this radio station and spout

721
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 3: out about my influence and power. That's been done before,

722
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: So you know, I don't necessarily need to do that, right,

723
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 3: People don't want to hear that. But but I think

724
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 3: Bernard Ryman I should get seven percent typical agent Draws said,

725
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: you know what, I take that back. I'm not his agent,

726
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm not as representative, but I helped. So three and

727
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: a half percent half an agent fee not bad, right

728
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: because Bernard Ryman, and I think he knew exactly what

729
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: he was doing. Bernard Ryman came on this show and

730
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: a couple of questions in I said, hey, you know what,

731
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: you're a free agent, you are enterant year, in the

732
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: last year of your contract. You're in a contract negotiation.

733
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: What's the mindset? Where do things stand? And he said, well,

734
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: we're not on the same page. I'm paraphrasing, and I

735
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: think he might have even said like we're a ways

736
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: away or we're a ways off. And when he said that,

737
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: I thought to myself, well, there are one of two

738
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 3: ways to look look at that one is and we've

739
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: seen it with Ryan Kelly, we saw it with the

740
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: Pacers with Miles Turner, where they get to a situation

741
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: where they then signed for. In Miles Turner's case, I

742
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: think it was a two year extension. Which then prohibited

743
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: them from being able to renegotiate with him until that

744
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: deal was up to extend him. And obviously we know

745
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 3: what happened there, but we have seen times where it's

746
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: not unprecedented with any team where you see them say, hey,

747
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: they reached a point where they're not going to do

748
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: anything now during the season. They will wait until season's

749
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: end and then they'll come back to the negotiating table.

750
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: So when Bernard Rayman had said we're not on the

751
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: same page, my instinctive reaction was, does he mean they're

752
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: not on the same page in terms of the urgency

753
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: of getting a deal done, or they're not on the

754
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: same page in terms of how much he's worth. And

755
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: so when I pushed him for the follow up on that,

756
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: he did not hesitate to say, no, I know my worth,

757
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: but the numbers are not on the same page. And

758
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: so that kind of grew legs right that Nationally speaking,

759
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: it was, you know, Bernard Ryman and the Colts are

760
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: way off, and you saw and I'm sure Chris Ballard

761
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 3: the first thing he does when he gets home at

762
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: night his looks at social media to determine what he

763
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: needs to do. But he you saw that there was

764
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 3: reaction of people like, you cannot do this, don't be cheap,

765
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: don't sell this short, don't screw this up. You got

766
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: to resign Bernard Ryman and lo and behold what happens

767
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: within a week of Bernard Ryman coming on this show,

768
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 3: and we now know four year, one hundred million, sixty

769
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: two million of which is guaranteed, sixty two million of

770
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 3: which is guaranteed. Can you imagine that, Kylon, Let's figure

771
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: this out. Okay, he's got a guaranteed sixty two million

772
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 3: over the next four years. Okay, So let's just say,

773
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: for the sake of argument, for the sake of argument,

774
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: that Bernard Rayman just says, you know what, I signed

775
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: the deal. I'm good guaranteed. Now we're gonna take out taxes.

776
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: What would the what's the tax at that level? What

777
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: are we looking at? Thirty two percent tax something like that.

778
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: I'm totally guestimating. I'm probably way up based the kids

779
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: across the hall would know and probably do three hours

780
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 3: a day talking about the injustice of it. But let

781
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: me see here, sixty two million. I'm just gonna go

782
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: with let's say it's I'm gonna I'll say he's giving

783
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: thirty five percent in tax. Okay, so forty point three

784
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: million over the next four years, so ten million per

785
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: year guaranteed after taxes. Right now, the beauty of that is,

786
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 3: can you imagine assuming that he gets every two week

787
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: direct deposit? Can you imagine that, like you just every

788
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: two weeks after taxes, right, every two weeks after taxes,

789
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: you check your checking account and you're like, you know what,

790
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: I screwed this up?

791
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: Here?

792
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: Can you look up what ten million divided by twenty

793
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: six would be Kyland? Because that means that every after

794
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: taxes he's looking at his direct deposit and it's like

795
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: another three hundred and eighty five grand. You know what?

796
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 3: I realize guys that we're supposed to go bowling this

797
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 3: weekend and then go to a movie. But if you

798
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: don't mind, can we wait until Tuesday? Because I don't

799
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: get paid till Friday, and I want, you know, and

800
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: well what do you get?

801
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: Well?

802
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yep, yep, twelve twenty am. I checked it

803
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: on the second and yeah, I just got my three

804
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty four thousand, six hundred and fifteen dollars

805
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: direct deposit after tax. Now does that does he have

806
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 3: a four oh one k that he pushes into Also

807
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: does he put ten percent in into the Colts match

808
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: that as well? I mean, good for Bernard Ryman. But

809
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: the guy that so we talked about all of that

810
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: right then, the guy that's showing out now is apparently

811
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: eighty Mitchell. So Bernard Ryman got paid. So no jinks

812
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 3: on this radio show because we influenced that. I get

813
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: three and a half percent. Jalen Jones. I don't think,

814
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: hopefully that's not a serious injury. And we have not

815
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: yet had on Ady Mitchell. But Ady Mitchell today apparently

816
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: caught seven straight passes from Daniel Jones and finally, finally,

817
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: eighty Mitchell found his way to Westfield. This year, you

818
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: remember Andre Risen Andre Risen, prolific wide receiver, first round

819
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: pick Colts nineteen eighty eight, late on the first day

820
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 3: to Anderson because he had to stop at the truck

821
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: stop on I sixty nine and like what's now ninety

822
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: sixth Street and ask somebody where Anderson is because he

823
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 3: was lost. Drove from East Lansing, had to turn around

824
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: go back to Anderson. Arrived a little late, Ady Mitchell.

825
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: We've been awaiting the arrival and it looks like today

826
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: and again you don't know what's being worked on, but

827
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 3: it beats the alternative that Ady Mitchell today finally arrived

828
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 3: seven for seven and in other words, seven balls thrown

829
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: his way, seven completed passes, according to people that were

830
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: out at Colts Camp. And that's what you want to see.

831
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: You want to see Ady Mitchell because you know Pittman,

832
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: you know Downs, you know Pierce. They've got to get

833
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 3: that fourth receiver and Adi Mitchell is the guy they've

834
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 3: been counting on for it to be, and at least

835
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: for one day it was. But one day camp does

836
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: not a season mat We have concert tickets to give

837
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: away over the course of today, three Dog Night among those,

838
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: Dropkick Murphy's among those. We will do so later on

839
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: in the program. And by the way, reminder, August seventh

840
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: is the Fan Golf Outing going to take place at

841
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 3: the Legends Golf Club. Your chance to come hang out.

842
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: All the benefit Franciscan Health Foundation and we look forward

843
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: to it, hope to see you there. There is still

844
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: the opportunity to sign up for it at one oh

845
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: seven to five the fan dot Com not sure if

846
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: Kevin Bowen's gonna give golf lessons or not, but he's

847
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: the scratch golfer of the group. I think John's okay.

848
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 7: J and V.

849
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 3: I think he's a decent golfer. I'm terrible Mark Dyton.

850
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if Dyton's a golfer or not, but

851
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: he strikes me as a kind of guy that would

852
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: struggle because I think he has little hands. He's kind

853
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: of like Kenny Pickett. Eddie the same way. Truthfully, Eddie

854
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: the same way. Eddie's probably in trouble because he's a

855
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: baseball player, so he's got a baseball swing not good.

856
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: Let me get you caught up to speed on what's

857
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: happening in terms of the injury report today out at

858
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: Colts Camp. This from Mike chapell Ford of The Show.

859
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 3: Shane Steiken did confirm that Jalen Jones suffered a hamstring

860
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: injury during practice. Did leave the practice field earlier today,

861
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: shortly after things got underway in Westfield. But along with

862
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: Jalen Jones, there were other injuries. Juju Brents out with

863
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 3: a hamstring, Michael Pittman Junior did not finish practice because

864
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: of a groin injury. David Long with a groin injury,

865
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: solving a med with a back injury, and Cam mcgroen

866
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: with a quad injury. But obviously the notables there would

867
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 3: be Michael Pittman junior with a groin and then when

868
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 3: you look at Jalen Jones and Juju Brents, that's a

869
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: unique situation because and again Justin Whalley, the rookie out

870
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: of Minnesota who has really impressed in the way that

871
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: he has played in this camp, you have to look

872
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 3: now at those that he is trying to move in

873
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: front of or stay in front of, because at this

874
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: point he's taking most of the starter reps of that

875
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: corner position. But Jalen Jones and Juju Brent's on that

876
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: side of the two guys that are, you know, battling

877
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 3: as well. And both of those guys go down, and

878
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: I don't you would anticipate that's not for long, But

879
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 3: you don't know that. The other thing that comes into

880
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: play with this, and this to me is a little

881
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: bit of a chicken and egg discussion. I briefly talked

882
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: about it yesterday I believe it was might have been

883
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: two days ago with Chris Whidlock. I mentioned that we

884
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 3: were out of camp and Woodlock and I are sitting

885
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: there watching I think it was yesterday, and we were

886
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: talking about the fact.

887
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: That it is and I get it.

888
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: The NFL players, the teams are this was agreed upon

889
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: by the players association. It was agreed upon. The minimization

890
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: Is that a is that theory? Is that a word? Minimization? Minimalization?

891
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: Is that a word? Kylon? Can you look up? Is

892
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: it minimalization or is it it's minimalization?

893
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: Right?

894
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 4: I think you're adding in an el minimization minimization.

895
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: That's what I first said, Is that right?

896
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: Yep?

897
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: That didn't sound right. I mean, I'm an Alisonville Elementary

898
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: School spelling be runner up in nineteen eighty four. You know,

899
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 3: I know most words, but we didn't get that far

900
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: in the alphabet minimization. But if you look at the

901
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 3: the lesson lessening of camp time and practice time one

902
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: hour practice a day, maybe ninety minutes, and a lot

903
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: of that is walk throughs and just you know, I mean,

904
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: yeah they do drills and yeah they put pads on

905
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: and they start hitting. But if you go back and

906
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm not talking, I mean, you don't have to go

907
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: in the wayback machine here. You don't have to go

908
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 3: and be the two guys from the Muppets to remember

909
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: the time win. For example, when they would finally have

910
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: the first preseason game. What does every player say in

911
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 3: preseason games, every player since the beginning of time. If

912
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 3: you go back and you look at the Egyptian Pyramids

913
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 3: and you try to decipher what hiro groalyptics say, what

914
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: they say is that there were actually games being played

915
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 3: between the Cairo Comets and the Egyptian Eels, and they

916
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: were talking about how they could not wait for the

917
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: preseason game number one because they just wanted to hit

918
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: guys from another team. Because in the old days, guys

919
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: would put pads on and they were hitting twice a day.

920
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: Fights are breaking out, big brawls on the field. There

921
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: was a scuffle today. There was a scuffle Jonathan Taylor,

922
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 3: Grover Stewart, Quentin Nelson. There's a scuffle. But those days,

923
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: and I'm not talking long ago of a couple of

924
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: practices in the heat, full pads, guys collision, all of it.

925
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: And as I was talking to Whitlock yesterday, I'm like, man,

926
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: it just it seems like it's less and less each year.

927
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: That was agreed upon by the Collective Bargaining Agreement and

928
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: the NFLPA, I I within the CBA, I totally get it.

929
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: And that leads to the question of, and I don't

930
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 3: know this answer. Do we see more nagging injuries throughout

931
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 3: camp because a players are getting back to and look

932
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 3: professional sports. The level of activity, the level of demand

933
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: on the human body is unbelievable. It's unbelievable the what

934
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: they're asking their body, even for one hour. I mean,

935
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: what the cold We could sit here and papoo it

936
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: all day long about the colts gam What they do

937
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: in one hour is more than what most of us

938
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: do in the course of a two week period physically speaking.

939
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 3: But are they resting their body in the off season

940
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: after seventeen weeks of a collision sport, not a contact

941
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: a collision sport. And you hear players that are in

942
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: prime shape and the most elite athletic shape of their

943
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: lives say all the time that on Monday morning, it

944
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: takes five minutes to get out of bed, just to move,

945
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 3: just to get your body to move, and then get

946
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: by Wednesday or Thursday back to where you're feeling right again,

947
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 3: only to go back through it all again on a Sunday,

948
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: And so are you resting your body over the course

949
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: of the off season to the point where you are

950
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: then shocking to the system your muscles, your ligaments in

951
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 3: your body in the training camp, that's a possibility. Or

952
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: are we seeing injuries like this because in training camp itself,

953
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: they're not going through enough to shock the body and

954
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: therefore any contact whatsoever is jeopardizing them also possible? Or

955
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 3: is it possible that we are actually going to see

956
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 3: fewer in season injuries because of the slow ramp up

957
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: period taking place right now and the one hour practices

958
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 3: instead of two practices a day, in the blazing heat

959
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: testing your body, et cetera. I don't know that answer.

960
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: I tend to think that in the regular season we

961
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: see more injuries because the body is not ready for

962
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: the shock to the system. But that's probably just because

963
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm diverting back to what I saw previously and always

964
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 3: thought was the norm, and therefore you naturally are like, wow,

965
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: this is nothing compared to the way it used to be.

966
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 3: But either way, you know, you have the camp. If

967
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 3: you're not out at Colts camp and it's cool to

968
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: go out there. I mean, everything about it's cool. I

969
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: get it. I mean you had yesterday. I saw Carli

970
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: Ersay Gordon and I saw Casey Orsay Foyight with their

971
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: kids walking around. I mean that's cool, right, And you

972
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: know there's a family like environment to it. You got

973
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 3: the Touchdowntown or whatever they call it, right behind the

974
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: practice field where kids are running around and blues out

975
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 3: there doing stuff and having fun with kids, and it's cool.

976
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: And the chance for you to watch the colts practicing

977
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 3: is super cool. But they actually, because I asked about this,

978
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 3: what does the day look like after what we see?

979
00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: They go.

980
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 3: Through practice from ten until like eleven fifteen then or

981
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,959
Speaker 3: eleven thirty, then from eleven thirty until like twelve thirty

982
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 3: or one o'clock. It's a combination of post workout treatment,

983
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: getting looked at. Making sure that you know, I mean,

984
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: I'm not making light of it. Alec Pierce had a

985
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: foot blister, getting that treated, the hamstring of Jalen Jones

986
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: getting that looked at, getting it treated, whether it be

987
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: massages they do, whether it be that really painful thing

988
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: they do where they scrape the muscle and try to

989
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 3: get like lactic acid off of it. All of those

990
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: things that treatment and then also getting something to eat

991
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: takes place until like one o'clock one actually I think

992
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: like one thirty, and then by two o'clock it's individual

993
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 3: breakdowns of film sessions by room. So the corners go

994
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: in one room, the quarterbacks go in one room, I

995
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 3: would assume the offensive unit in general, but they break

996
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 3: down into by two or two thirty sessions, group sessions

997
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: within the area of whatever they're playing, and then watching film.

998
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: And that's the way it goes over the course of today,

999
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 3: and so therefore it is not as physical and taxing

1000
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 3: as it once was. Totally understand why I'd probably be

1001
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 3: the same way now. The other thing that we talked

1002
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: about off the top of the show that I want

1003
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 3: to revisit, and it's a little bit weird on a

1004
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 3: sports talk radio show in a non baseball city to

1005
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 3: go to talk about Major League Baseball on a day

1006
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: when you have a left tackle getting a one hundred

1007
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: million dollar contract, on a day when you have a

1008
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: corner in Jalen Jones getting a hamstring injury on a

1009
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: day when you have a frame wide receiver and Michael

1010
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 3: Pittman Jr. Having a groin injury on a day when

1011
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson has his best day throwing the football on

1012
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: a day when Daniel Jones also has a pretty good

1013
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 3: day in Awakening Ady Mitchell. So there's a lot going on,

1014
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: a lot to talk about in that regard. But Indianapolis

1015
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: is a little bit different because this is by and

1016
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: large a melting pot of baseball fans. It's a melting

1017
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: pot of baseball fans, and you have I think the

1018
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 3: vast majority in this city probably a rotation of If

1019
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: I had to guess, and I'm strictly guessing, thirty percent,

1020
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: if you took major League Baseball fans in Indianapolis and

1021
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: broke it down, I would say thirty percent Reds fans.

1022
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: I think at this point I'll go forty percent Cubs fans.

1023
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 3: Then you have probably i'll say twenty percent fans of

1024
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 3: any of the Cardinals, with the Cardinals probably being the

1025
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: larger percentage here Cardinals White Sox. I'm not gonna say Tigers,

1026
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: I know, proximity wise, but I'll say Cardinals White Sox.

1027
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: And then.

1028
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 3: Five percent that are some sort of other regional team.

1029
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: And five percent of my math adds up there correctly,

1030
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 3: or you know whatever. The remaining percentage is of just

1031
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 3: big brand fan, a Yankees fan, a Red Sox fan,

1032
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: a Dodgers fan. But that's kind of the breakdown of it.

1033
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: But in this town, the Chicago Cubs, like is the

1034
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: case with a lot of franchises, the Cubs hold a

1035
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: special place for people in Indianapols and probably always will.

1036
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: And I remember in twenty sixteen when the Cubs were

1037
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: on the doorstep of the World Series, and I still

1038
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: maintained my sentiment on this, and I think I'm still right.

1039
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: I said that if the Cubs were to win the

1040
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 3: World Series, Cubs fans need to be careful because it

1041
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: will change the identity of the fan base because forever

1042
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: the Cubs had been the lovable losers. The Cubs had

1043
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: been the franchise that had the Billy Goat Curse and

1044
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: the Black Cat cur although the Black Cat, I think

1045
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: was the mess the Billy Goat curse, and you know

1046
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: all that goes into the collapse in sixty nine with

1047
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: the Mazon Mets, you know all of it. And there

1048
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: were so many things and so many stories and so

1049
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 3: many legacies about the Cubs. Never you know, the Norman

1050
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: Rockwell paintings, They're never going to win a World Series,

1051
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: and so to be a Cubs fan was a badge

1052
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 3: of honor because it showed that you were a loyal

1053
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 3: fan because your team was never going to win it,

1054
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 3: but you still came back every single year. Red Sox

1055
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 3: were the same way, but the Cubs more than anybody,

1056
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: and that if they were to win it, just be

1057
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: careful because then you just become another fan base that's

1058
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: like kind of obnoxious. And I still maintain that that's

1059
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 3: the case. It's a different brand of the fan base

1060
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 3: now because they have won a World Series in their

1061
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 3: lifetime and they're having a good year this year, I realize,

1062
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: But the summer of eighty four was different. It was

1063
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: different for the Cubs, and it was different for baseball

1064
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: in general. And yes, maybe I romanticize it in my

1065
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: mind now because we do that about childhood, right, and

1066
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: I know that not everybody listening to my voice was

1067
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: a child in nineteen eighty four. They may not have

1068
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 3: been around in nineteen eighty four. They might have been

1069
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: an adult by nineteen eighty four, But the summer of

1070
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: eighty four was a little bit different, especially when it

1071
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: comes to the Cubs. For this reason, they were fifteen

1072
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 3: years removed from that summer when they had a sizeable

1073
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: lead with a month ago over the New York Mets,

1074
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: and the Mets came roaring back and went on and

1075
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: the Maze and Mets surpassed them and went on to

1076
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: the World Series and won the World Series. And fifteen

1077
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Speaker 3: years removed from that, and Harry Carey, who had been

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Speaker 3: the voice of the Saint Louis Cardinals and the Chicago

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Speaker 3: White Sox and now was the voice of the Chicago Cubs,

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Speaker 3: and he was the television voice of the Cubs, and

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Speaker 3: he was the television voice on WGN, which was a

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Speaker 3: national network that And again, for those that weren't around,

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Speaker 3: keep in mind, back then you had in baseball, essentially

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Speaker 3: you had your favorite team. You got to watch their

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Speaker 3: games on a syndicated channel. In Indianapolis, you got Reds games,

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Speaker 3: not all of them, but you got a vast majority

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Speaker 3: of them on s WTTV four. But you didn't have

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Speaker 3: the regionalized home games where you got to see your

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Speaker 3: local home favorite team all the time. The two teams

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Speaker 3: where you saw them on the regular were the Atlanta

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Speaker 3: Braves and the Chicago Cubs. And the Cubs were different because,

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Speaker 3: especially in nineteen eighty four, still all of their games

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Speaker 3: were in the daytime. First night game nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia Phillies, first one got rained out. Guess who hit

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Speaker 3: a home run in that game, Ryan Samberg. Ryan Samberg

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Speaker 3: get a home run in the first night game at regularly,

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Speaker 3: it just wasn't the first official night game because it

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Speaker 3: got rained out, like in the fourth inning or whatever,

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Speaker 3: and they came back and redid it. But in nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty four, every game's on in the daytime. And for example,

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Speaker 3: my mom my parents were a young couple, moved to

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Speaker 3: Chicago in the late sixties for my dad's steel job,

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Speaker 3: and my dad was working in the steel areas around

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Speaker 3: Chicago and the Chicago Land area. And so my mom,

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Speaker 3: as a young mother, a stay at home mother, had

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Speaker 3: the Cubs on television locally in Chicago and could watch

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Speaker 3: it each and every day as a day game in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: And so cluster truck has arrived, Evan bringing in the

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Speaker 3: cluster truck.

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Speaker 1: What have you got?

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Speaker 3: What have we got here?

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Speaker 1: Evan?

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Speaker 8: Good?

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Speaker 9: We have got cheesecasada for you. Heck, yes, classic build

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Speaker 9: your own Casadia, just just classic cheese the regular right,

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Speaker 9: very much with our housemade salsa verde on the or

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Speaker 9: no salsa charret salta on and sour cream as well.

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Speaker 9: And then for Kylin, I believe you got the Chipotle

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Speaker 9: cheese steak.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 4: I'm all about the cheesy cheese steak. I haven't tried

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Speaker 4: it from Cluster Truck, so I'm excited.

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Speaker 9: The Chipotle cheese steak is one of my favorites. Housemade

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Speaker 9: Chipotle ranch on it, peppers and onions, nice flank stone.

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Speaker 3: When you stay housemade, by the way, you don't mean

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Speaker 3: like two hours ago, right, you mean like I mean

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Speaker 3: everything there is made fresh to order. That's the best

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Speaker 3: thing about Cluster Truck very much.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the Chipotle ranch is prepped, you know, ahead of time,

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Speaker 9: so we have you can use it as a side,

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Speaker 9: you know, you can order it on items so that

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Speaker 9: one is prepped ahead of time Chipotle ranch. But the

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Speaker 9: cheesesteak itself is made.

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Speaker 3: To order, of course, as always, right, all right, we

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Speaker 3: look forward to it. I haven't appreciate. Were you a

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Speaker 3: Cubs fan, by the way, I am not. I'm who's

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Speaker 3: your baseball team?

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Speaker 9: Not a huge baseball fan, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis not a huge baseball town. That's what I'm talking about. Right,

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Speaker 3: It's hard to buy in, but I do love the Indians.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the Indians, of course. Of course, all right,

1142
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Speaker 3: so you got to follow the pirates of guys graduate

1143
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Speaker 3: to that level. Ever, appreciate the lunch. Thank you as always.

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Speaker 3: Cluster truck dot com where you can buy that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So what I'm talking about the Cubs. What I'm saying

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Speaker 3: is this, so my mom, for example, in nineteen sixty nine,

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01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 3: stay at home mother would watch the Cubs on television

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Speaker 3: every day and became a huge Cubs fan. And for

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Speaker 3: that reason, even though I grew up a Reds fan,

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01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: the summer of eighty four, all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 3: lovable loser Cubs find themselves back in the mix again.

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Speaker 3: And I still can recall their batting order because I

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Speaker 3: watched because they were on on WGN and other teams

1154
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Speaker 3: were not. You got to see them every game. The

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Speaker 3: Cubs and the Braves, those were the two teams. And

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Speaker 3: that eighty four team denear the leadoff. Ryan Sanmberg batted second,

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Speaker 3: Keith Morland I believe, batt at third. Leon Durham was

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Speaker 3: clean up. Gary Matthews batted fifth, batting sixth would have

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Speaker 3: been I think Ron Say, seventh, Jody Davis, eighth Larry Boa,

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Speaker 3: and the ninth the pitcher. And baseball at that time

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01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 3: was romanticized because you collected baseball cards. You got to

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Speaker 3: know star players, and you didn't see players on the regular.

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Speaker 3: You heard about them. You saw the baseball cards. You

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Speaker 3: wondered who they were. You saw you knew they were

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Speaker 3: all stars. You saw him in the All Star Game.

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Speaker 3: And back then you didn't have the travel baseball to

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Speaker 3: the level that you had now, so baseball was still

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Speaker 3: a spectator versus participation sport, and kids played Little League baseball,

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Speaker 3: of course, and in the concession stand at little League

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Speaker 3: Baseball you had Big League two astro pops, snow cones,

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Speaker 3: and baseball cards, and you read your baseball cards and

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Speaker 3: you looked at your baseball cards and you knew your players.

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Speaker 3: And the Cubs were a team that finally got their opportunity,

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01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: They got their center stage. They got to play on

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Speaker 3: the national Game of the Week on NBC with Bob

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Speaker 3: Costas on the microphone, and they were playing the Cardinals,

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Speaker 3: and Ryan Samberg was a twenty five year old guy,

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Speaker 3: and the Cubs were a team that people were trying

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Speaker 3: to find out whether they were a pretender or a contender,

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Speaker 3: and the whole country was watching. And it was different

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01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 3: back then because the game of the week there was

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Speaker 3: just one of them, and everyone tuned in and everyone

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Speaker 3: was watching it. Everyone was captivated. And Ryan Samberg in

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Speaker 3: his career, hit two hundred and eighty two home runs.

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Speaker 3: Two hundred and eighty two home runs, not huge, not staggering,

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Speaker 3: not a power hitter, but a reliable, everyday, timely hitter,

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Speaker 3: and a guy with a classic batting stance that looked

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Speaker 3: just like the little generic batter on the top of

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Speaker 3: your participation trophy from your first grade little league team.

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Speaker 3: He was a prolific second baseman with an extremely high

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Speaker 3: fielding percentage that was as reliable as reliable could be,

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Speaker 3: that set records for most consecutive plays without error, and

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Speaker 3: was a timely hitter that was always there for his team.

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting to me that for a guy that

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Speaker 3: was not a home run hitter, in the first night

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Speaker 3: game at Wrigley Field, the first opportunity under the lights,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Samberg hit a home run and in the first

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Speaker 3: opportunity on a national stage with the spotlight on the

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Speaker 3: Chicago Cubs and an era where that still mattered. A

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Speaker 3: guy that many people to that point knew about because

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Speaker 3: of their baseball card collection, of a card that they

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Speaker 3: drew at their little league in Yuma, Arizona, or their

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Speaker 3: little league in Kearny, Nebraska, or their little league in Annapolis, Maryland,

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Speaker 3: they knew of Ryan Samberg. But now they had the

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Speaker 3: chance to watch him. And it was a Major League

1206
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Speaker 3: Baseball Game of the Day on NBC, which meant that

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Speaker 3: Harry Carey, the television voice of the Cubs, shifted over

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Speaker 3: to the radio side of things on WGN, and Harry

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 3: Carey was on the radio call on June the twenty

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Speaker 3: third of nineteen eighty four, and the Chicago Cubs were

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Speaker 3: playing their heated rival Saint Louis Cardinals and Bruce Suiter,

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Speaker 3: the unhittable future Hall of Famer Bruce Souter, was on

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Speaker 3: the mound to close the game and the Cubs trailed

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Speaker 3: by two. And the guy that steps into the batter's

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01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 3: box with a runner on is not necessarily a home

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Speaker 3: run hitter. And then this happened, Oh bet Ryan Samberg,

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Speaker 3: and what would be known as the Ryan Samberg Game.

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Speaker 3: And it is not often that players have a game

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Speaker 3: designated to them in legacy, and very few. If you

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Speaker 3: think about Joe Carter's home run, you think about Kirk

1221
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Speaker 3: Gibson's home run, you think about Bill Mazeroski's home run,

1222
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Speaker 3: you think about Willie Mays's basket catch, you think about

1223
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Speaker 3: Don Larson's perfect game. All those happened in the postseason,

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Speaker 3: but in the regular season. Sometimes great moments find the player,

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Speaker 3: and it just so happens that it's only fitting that

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Speaker 3: the great player is the one that had the moment,

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Speaker 3: because a lot of players, when the moment is there,

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Speaker 3: tense up and shy away from it. But oftentimes the

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Speaker 3: moment doesn't shy away and run towards runs towards a

1230
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Speaker 3: great player. And in Ryan Samberg's case, it was only

1231
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 3: fitting that he would be the guy that not once

1232
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 3: but twice would hit those home runs when the spotlight

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01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 3: was for on the Cubs and then when the lights

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01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 3: were first on Wrigley and Ryan Samberg, who passed away

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Speaker 3: yesterday at the age of sixty five, is absolutely the

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Speaker 3: kind of the All American guy, a class act, a

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01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 3: class player, a Hall of Fame player, and somebody that

1238
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 3: will be missed and remembered by not only Cubs fans,

1239
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 3: but baseball fans for a very long time. Stephanie White,

1240
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 3: just a few. But let's get to Tom real quick,

1241
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 3: because he is a Cubs fan with his own recollection.

1242
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 3: Hi Tom, Yeah, Hey Jake.

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 5: Thanks for these reminiscences of Rhino. I have a little

1244
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 5: different perspective in that I was, what twenty six when

1245
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 5: it's happening on that Saturday, I was living in the

1246
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Speaker 5: Chicago area, and I was at a friend's wedding. The

1247
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 5: game was going on during the wedding and everybody had

1248
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 5: their transitors out listening to their earplugs.

1249
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: And then during the reception, we.

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Speaker 5: All set around a TV that we had and were

1251
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 5: the reception is being illed and watched Sandberg. I remember

1252
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 5: he didn't win the game. He tied it to twice

1253
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 5: correct the ninth and the tenth with two run homers,

1254
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 5: and it was just it was incredible. I want to

1255
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 5: say two things. One, Jerry West is the logo of

1256
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 5: the NBA. In my mind, Ryan Sandberg is the logo

1257
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 5: of Major League Baseball. And turning the double play, flying

1258
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 5: over the runner coming in, it just was he was

1259
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 5: just he was a natural player. The other thing I

1260
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 5: want to mention that I remember about that weekend. The

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01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 5: next day I was at the game and had the fortune,

1262
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 5: had the best seats I ever had, about three rows behind.

1263
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 5: The Cups dugout beautiful day. Rick Sutcliff's fitched his first

1264
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 5: game as a Cup home at home that day and shitter.

1265
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 5: I believe it was a one hitter.

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Speaker 1: At the end of that week, we were bound to

1267
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 6: It was exciting.

1269
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 3: Hey and Rick Suckcliffe at a home run in Game

1270
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 3: one and eighty four. Remember in the NLCS against the Padres,

1271
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 3: they won twelve twelve or thirteen to nothing in Game

1272
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 3: one and tom it was a foregone conclusion they were

1273
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 3: going to the World Series. And then they go up

1274
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: to nothing and then we know what happened in San Diego.

1275
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 3: And I've never liked Steve Garvey as a result of it,

1276
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 3: But and I was a Reds fan, but I fell

1277
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 3: in love with that Cubs team right. And I agree

1278
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 3: totally on the logo, even though it is long been

1279
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: thought that it's Harmon Killerbrew in our actuality. The logo

1280
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: was a compilation of different players that they used in

1281
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 3: terms of photos. But it looks just like Ryan Samberg,

1282
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: no question, and Willie McGhee, who is an unheralded, cart

1283
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 3: beloved Cardinal player, hit for the cycle that day as well,

1284
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 3: but upstaged by Ryan Samberg. Now one person who is

1285
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 3: a Cardinal fan at that time. Now, the head coach

1286
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 3: of the Fever, Stephanie White, joins us next. Now, I'm

1287
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: not gonna lie, and I think this is what This

1288
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,560
Speaker 3: is what Eddie requested for a buffet song. And I

1289
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 3: think this is what we had mentioned and what Fever

1290
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 3: head coach Stephanie White had mentioned as a Jimmy Buffett

1291
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: song when we talked about this last week. But this

1292
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 3: seems like a serenade, right, Like I feel like the

1293
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 3: dentist is ready for me. You know, Finns might have

1294
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 3: been good. I mean, it's all good. But she joins

1295
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 3: us now on the guest line, the head coach of

1296
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 3: the Indiana Fever, coach, how are you?

1297
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 6: I'm good?

1298
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: How are you good?

1299
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 3: Except for I feel like I'm in the dentists office

1300
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 3: with that song.

1301
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, that probably wasn't the best. You know, we couldn't

1302
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 8: do a cheezburger in Paradise. We couldn't do Margaritaville.

1303
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 3: Finn Finns is good.

1304
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 8: The first thing that came to my mind.

1305
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,560
Speaker 3: I don't know why that's all right, I mean it

1306
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 3: is Tuesday instead of Monday, but that's okay, that's right. Okay,

1307
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 3: So let's get to this, and I promise I'm going

1308
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 3: to wait for the second question before I ask for

1309
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 3: a health update. So I want to get to simply

1310
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 3: this and that is just the way that you guys

1311
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 3: are playing. I mean, obviously you've got a little bit

1312
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 3: time here before you go to Phoenix or you know,

1313
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 3: hosting Phoenix that's tomorrow night, by the way, Fever and

1314
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: Phoenix tomorrow night. But you've won obviously too straight here

1315
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 3: and Chicago and Vegas. What have you seen without Caitlin

1316
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 3: Clark on the floor that so far that you do

1317
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 3: like that, you think maybe things are rounding in to

1318
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 3: form with obviously a major piece for you.

1319
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 8: I like how we're sharing the ball, you know, I

1320
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 8: think we're averaging like a like a seventy to seventy

1321
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 8: five percent assist rate, which is I think what we

1322
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 8: have to do to be successful. So we're sharing the ball.

1323
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 8: We're getting lots of different players involved, so production from

1324
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 8: a lot of different areas, which is important for us

1325
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 8: having that balance and what we're doing defensively. You know,

1326
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 8: we we've get different looks without Caitlin on the floor

1327
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 8: on the defensive end in terms of what our coverages

1328
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 8: look like. We miss her length certainly, and our ability

1329
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 8: to do some of our switches. But we've got some

1330
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 8: speed and quickness when when Ari and Kelsey are out

1331
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 8: there together, you know, And more than anything, it's just

1332
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 8: it's continuing to continuing to be consistent on on that

1333
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 8: end of the floor. And I think we've we've we've

1334
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 8: grown into that now that we've we've got bodies and

1335
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 8: we've been able to have some some continuity in terms

1336
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 8: of who is on the floor when.

1337
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 3: You think back to you know, the you NBA. Obviously

1338
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 3: we see now and I mean, gosh, I'm watching last night,

1339
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 3: you know, I'm watching I think it was New York

1340
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 3: and Dallas's on and I'm watching it and Page Becker

1341
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 3: is such a good player, and New York. It's that

1342
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 3: to a big lead, and you know, the league itself

1343
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 3: continues to grow, coach, And I'm curious, as a result

1344
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 3: of that, do you have to plan against a more

1345
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: diverse style of plays? In other words, do you see

1346
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 3: teams playing at different styles that you have to prepare

1347
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: for more so than say, even when you were a player.

1348
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 8: Definitely more than when I was a player, and even

1349
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 8: more so than when I was a coach in this

1350
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 8: league the first time around. And you know, it used

1351
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,879
Speaker 8: to be you could you could say, hey, what are

1352
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 8: their top three to four plays? Really hone in on

1353
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 8: that and that would be your scout. You know, heavy

1354
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 8: usage plays three to four and that'd be it. Now

1355
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 8: teams are running so many different actions. Obviously, the players

1356
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 8: are better than they've ever been. They're as versatile as

1357
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 8: they've ever been, and so you know, now it's you're

1358
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 8: not just talking about pick and roll EFN should talking

1359
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 8: about inverted picking rolls. You're talking about dribble handofs, talking

1360
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 8: about the screens, step up screen, angled screens, like all

1361
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 8: the different things. And that's just on ball, screening defense

1362
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 8: and the different ways that they play in the different

1363
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 8: reads that they have. It's much more free flowing, much

1364
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 8: more difficult to scout, much more nuance to what what

1365
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 8: teams are running, and so it is much more challenging.

1366
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 8: And then certain certain teams have different ways that they look.

1367
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 8: You know, Dallas certainly looks a lot different than than Atlanta.

1368
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 8: You know, Vegas certainly looks a lot different than the

1369
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 8: New York and Phoenix looks a lot different last two

1370
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 8: teams that we played in Vegas and Chicago.

1371
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 3: What about Phoenix jumps out at you now as you

1372
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 3: get set for this game tomorrow night, obviously you're going

1373
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 3: to see a familiar face into want to bonner. I

1374
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 3: guess is that awkward?

1375
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 8: By the way, No, it's not awkward. I mean, lucas

1376
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 8: professional sports. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You know,

1377
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 8: I have a personal relationship with dB, So for me, uh,

1378
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 8: I fee that she's happy that that she's found a place.

1379
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 8: You know, we've I think we've both kind of you know,

1380
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 8: in terms of the situation. We've been able to move

1381
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 8: on in a positive way. She's been able to move

1382
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 8: on in a positive way. So I'm happy for her

1383
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 8: certainly seeing at you know, At is what makes any

1384
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 8: team that she's on a challenge, just the way that

1385
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 8: she plays the game, her i Q, her ability to

1386
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 8: play the point forward, get other players involved, you know,

1387
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 8: her her defensive tenacity. But but you've got that coupled

1388
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 8: with Sasu Saboli who is you know, Satu and at

1389
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 8: two are the best four players you know in the game.

1390
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 8: They make it a challenge called Leahkopper and I think

1391
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 8: she's working back from injury, but I mean she is

1392
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 8: as dangerous as ever. Trying to keep her in front.

1393
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 8: You know, with certainly Olympians, they've got Multiplympians on that team,

1394
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 8: so they create a challenge. Their size will create some

1395
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 8: just for us as well.

1396
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 3: When you look at Alyssa Thomas and trying to neutralize that.

1397
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 3: Stephanie White, our guest, the head coach of the Fever,

1398
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 3: do you find in a situation like that that it's

1399
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: better to defend or neutralize a player by fronting them

1400
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 3: and simply trying to deny them the ball or by

1401
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 3: then getting help side and you know, being on the

1402
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 3: backside of it to limit once they do get the

1403
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 3: ball where they can then operate.

1404
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 8: Well, Ah's going to have the ball in her hands

1405
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 8: on the perimeter, and so for us, it's about keeping

1406
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 8: her in front, not overhelping, so that she can do

1407
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 8: what she does best. In terms of facilitating, you know,

1408
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 8: we've got to be really really disciplined how we play her.

1409
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 8: We got a force her to we got a force

1410
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 8: her to hit tough shots. We got to make sure

1411
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 8: that that we say, really discip make sure so so

1412
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 8: dynamic is not just your scoring ability, which she's scoring

1413
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 8: it at all time high, but it's her facilitating and

1414
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 8: she is truly a point guard in a forward body.

1415
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess you're right. You know, that's

1416
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 3: the thing. And that's another thing, coach. I think that

1417
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 3: you know, when you look at a player that is

1418
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, and you're talking almost a double double WHENU

1419
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 3: factor in the assists, right, So, but the size itself,

1420
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 3: I don't know that we would have seen a player

1421
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 3: at that size running that style twenty years ago. To me,

1422
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: it just speaks to the evolution of the game. Am

1423
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 3: I way romanticizing that?

1424
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: No, not at all.

1425
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 8: I mean, you're absolutely right. It's one of those things

1426
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 8: that the game's changed, you know, it's players have changed.

1427
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 8: You know, she's she's used in a unique way. We

1428
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 8: use there like that in Connecticut as well, because that's

1429
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 8: her skill set, it's what she does, and so yeah,

1430
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 8: it makes it, it makes it challenging, but it does

1431
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 8: show the growth of the game and the growth of players.

1432
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 3: If you look at your schedule Stephanie White, our guest.

1433
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 3: You have, I believe you have a game every two

1434
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 3: or three days until the seventeenth of August. So we're

1435
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 3: looking at, you know, a little under three weeks from now,

1436
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 3: you get a reprieve of nearly an entire at least

1437
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 3: work week off. Is there any thought to just letting

1438
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark use that time to then kind of the

1439
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 3: slow acclamation back in for her, as opposed to just

1440
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 3: throwing her into the mix once she is healthy again.

1441
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, certainly we'll have to have Caitlin go

1442
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 8: through practices before we throw her out there into a

1443
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 8: game again, you know, making sure that we're really taking

1444
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 8: this slow. Uh. You know, last time she felt good,

1445
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 8: so she got medical practice if any, and then then

1446
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 8: thrown out there into the game. You know, this time,

1447
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,919
Speaker 8: we're going to make sure that we get multiple practices.

1448
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 8: You know, she gets through some for lack of a

1449
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 8: better term, kind of benchmarks that we don't see any

1450
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 8: regression and so so yeah, I mean it makes it

1451
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 8: tough because we are playing every other day. We're playing

1452
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 8: every other day, and then you know, we're traveling out west,

1453
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 8: and so every time you travel there's inflammation that happens

1454
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 8: on airplanes, rest recovery, time zone changes, all of those

1455
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 8: things that affect your body as well as your mind.

1456
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 3: What's the latest you can tell us with any sort

1457
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 3: of definitive nature on her status or where things stand

1458
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 3: or what the timeline would be.

1459
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's not really a lot that's definitive, you know.

1460
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 8: I think the biggest thing is is we got to

1461
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 8: make sure number one, from a rehab standpoint, that that

1462
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 8: she's strong, that she's comfortable, and then she's got to

1463
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 8: start a conditioning regimen that will allow her to build

1464
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 8: endurance to make sure we don't have any any setbacks there,

1465
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 8: and then we'll start movement patterns. You know, all the

1466
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 8: lateral movement, all the movement was forced, you know, all

1467
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 8: the contact that she takes. And then and then after

1468
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 8: we get through those with no setbacks, we'll get to

1469
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 8: practice and how it looks like to start to get rhythm, timing, speed, balance,

1470
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 8: all of that back and make sure that she feels

1471
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 8: as close to one hundred percent with that as possible

1472
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 8: before we throw back into games.

1473
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,919
Speaker 3: We were talking about Ryan Samberg, you were a Cardinals

1474
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 3: fan growing up?

1475
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1476
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 8: I was? Yes, I was now big Cardinals fan, big

1477
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 8: Audie Smith's fan.

1478
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to know how. I guess I mean

1479
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 3: where you grew up. And for those that don't know

1480
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 3: you grew up obviously, you know Secre, Indiana, Right, that's

1481
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 3: what's that like just west of Lafayette?

1482
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1483
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 8: It's southwest, it's north of Tara Ho. It's halfway between

1484
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 8: the University of Illinois and for Due University in the

1485
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 8: state of Indiana. So I'm like one mile on the

1486
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 8: state line.

1487
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 3: Okay. So for that reason, I guess I'm gonna guess

1488
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: it's because of like just the radio signal of the

1489
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 3: Cardinals back in the day, and maybe like a family

1490
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 3: relative or something was a Cardinals fan. But I want

1491
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 3: to know how it became a Cardinal fan.

1492
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 8: You said, radio said, how old do you think I am? No?

1493
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 3: No, no, I said, radio signal of an older relative.

1494
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 3: So in other words, like your grandfather became a Cardinal

1495
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 3: fan by listening to km OX and then carried that on.

1496
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 7: Okay, well, you know, listen, I'm old.

1497
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: You're not.

1498
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm old, you're not.

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01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 6: I know that.

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01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 8: Really, where I grew up, we were it was kind

1501
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 8: of split down the middle. It's like you were either

1502
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 8: a Cardinals fan or you were a Cubs fan, and

1503
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 8: that's that's kind.

1504
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 2: Of how it works.

1505
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 8: Was like you're either a produ fan or you were

1506
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 8: an Illinois fan. So you're either a Bears fan or

1507
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 8: a Colts fan. So it's kind of one of those

1508
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 8: things that that at Chapol's Pacers that you kind of

1509
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 8: when I grew up, it was like that, but I did.

1510
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 8: I used to go to Cardinal games every summer when

1511
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 8: I was a kid. My grandfather was a huge Cardinals fan.

1512
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 8: My grandfather was a baseball guy. In fact, he played

1513
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 8: my league baseball in the Reds organization, but he was

1514
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 8: a Cardinal fan growing up and an in turn, we

1515
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 8: became Cardinal fans. My whole family really is is extended

1516
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 8: family is are Cardinal fans.

1517
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Ozzie Smith was obviously prolific the wizard, right.

1518
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 3: I just wanted to the reason I asked it before

1519
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 3: we let you go, you know, regardless of whatever team

1520
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: you were a fan of. I just think Ryan Samberg

1521
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 3: personified coach like everything that you would want out of

1522
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 3: a player or a role model for young people during

1523
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: his time, and just wanted to get your thoughts on

1524
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 3: watching him even as a rival, so to speak, when

1525
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 3: you were a kid.

1526
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 8: Oh, I loved watching him, you know, those were those

1527
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 8: were those uh, those rivalry days, certainly when with the

1528
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 8: Cubs and Cardinals. But I think just just just as

1529
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 8: you mentioned, not just how he played the game, but

1530
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 8: the way he handled himself, his leadership, his consistency. You know,

1531
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 8: as a as a young as a young kid, none

1532
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 8: of those things really leadership and consistency and all that

1533
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 8: didn't didn't really matter. I didn't really understand that. But

1534
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 8: then the older I've gotten, and when you look at

1535
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 8: the craft and especially baseball, the number of games that

1536
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 8: they have, the hours that they're on the field every

1537
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 8: single day honing their craft, the short off seasons right

1538
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 8: the preseasons, and the way that they have to approach

1539
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 8: the game mentally as much as physically, and with the

1540
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 8: consistency and elite mentality that he played, I just think

1541
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 8: it was really incredible and you know, such a loss

1542
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 8: for the sports community obviously, and just one of the

1543
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 8: greatest that ever played.

1544
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 3: I always thought it'd be cool to play for the

1545
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: Cubs back then because it was all day games and

1546
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 3: then you can still go out to dinner every night.

1547
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 3: That's right, that's hard, think about it, right. I mean

1548
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 3: Lights came in eighty eight, Ryan saber get a home

1549
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 3: run in the first unofficial game, it got rained out,

1550
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 3: and then they came back the next night and played

1551
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 3: against Philadelphia. Tomorrow night, it will be the Fever in

1552
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 3: action taking on Phoenix. That is a seven o'clock start

1553
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 3: at Gambridge Field House. Stephanie White, the head coach, and

1554
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 3: again Stephanie, no Caitlin Clark tomorrow or for least at

1555
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 3: this time, any timeline of the foreseeable future. Correct, that's right, Okay,

1556
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 3: appreciate the time as always, coach. All right, thank you,

1557
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 3: We sure the best of luck. Stephanie White joining us

1558
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 3: on the program tomorrow night. And again unlessa Thomas, like

1559
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: I said, I mean a six to two a point

1560
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 3: forward basically, and I know that that's you're operating on

1561
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 3: the premeter. It's not the same in any way, shape

1562
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 3: or form. But you look at even you know, like

1563
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 3: a Halliburton, I mean Halliburton is a is a point guard.

1564
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 3: But the size in general in relation to the rest

1565
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: of the floor, that's what makes it so difficult, and

1566
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 3: that is certainly a challenge for certain, but that's the

1567
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 3: big news there with Caitlyn Clark again, they have I

1568
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 3: think it's five games between now and the seventeenth of August,

1569
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 3: and then they get a reprief So it'll be interesting

1570
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 3: to see. As she talked about need practice days, we'll

1571
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,799
Speaker 3: see how that all slots. Speaking of practice days, busy

1572
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 3: one today for the colts. Stephen Holder will join us

1573
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 3: about thirteen minutes from now and it's of a mash

1574
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 3: unit report from today. We'll get the latest on that

1575
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 3: when we come back. We have tickets to give away

1576
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 3: drop Kick Murphy's and as well for three Dog Night.

1577
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 3: We will let Kylin select right now, drop Kick Murphy's

1578
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 3: are three Dog Night, Kyler, which one you want to

1579
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 3: go with? First? I thought three Dog Nights Three Dog

1580
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 3: Night tickets to give away. This will be at the

1581
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 3: Great Indiana State Fair. It is on Friday, and we

1582
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 3: will do it in our typical fashion with a little

1583
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 3: get to know your listener on the other side. If

1584
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 3: you would like to go three Dog Night and it's

1585
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 3: going to be I believe it's this Friday at the

1586
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 3: Indiana State Fair opening night on the Grand Stage there

1587
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 3: at the Fair. Two, three, nine, ten, seventy is the

1588
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 3: telephone number. Join the program. Next, there you go, three

1589
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 3: Dog Night Indiana State Fair this Friday night tickets to

1590
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,799
Speaker 3: give away. By the way, you just heard the Tigers

1591
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 3: and Phillies that you can hear in this radio station.

1592
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 3: Bryce Harper, I don't know if Rob Manford is going

1593
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 3: to be there or not, but apparently he paid a

1594
01:26:56,080 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 3: visit to the clubhouse of the Philadelphia Phillies amidst conversation

1595
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 3: of Major League Baseball going to a salary cap and

1596
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 3: Bryce Harper took exception cussed him out. I think he

1597
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 3: actually dropped the almighty cuss word on him a couple

1598
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 3: of times, cust him out in the clubhouse. Eventually they

1599
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 3: allegedly made up, but then Rod Manford apparently called him

1600
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 3: on the telephone and Bryce Harper let it go to voicemail.

1601
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 3: He might not have his number, Like if you're like

1602
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 3: me anymore my phone now and I downloaded some app

1603
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 3: to screen out like spam calls because I was getting

1604
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 3: forty seven a day at one point, and I apparently

1605
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 3: I have thirteen hundred and seventy five unpaid tolls in

1606
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 3: the state of Arkansas, and I keep getting that text.

1607
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 3: So I got something to weed all those out. So

1608
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 3: now my phone like automatically kicks any number that's not

1609
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 3: on my contact list of voicemail, and I don't get

1610
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 3: the voice. Like six weeks later, I get something ran

1611
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 3: only some email that says you have a voicemail from

1612
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 3: this number. Okay, So you know, maybe that's what happened

1613
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 3: for Bryce Arbor. Maybe he's got the same three dog

1614
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 3: Night Friday night. Let's go to Tony, He joins us

1615
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 3: on the program at two three nine ten seventy. Hi, Tony,

1616
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 3: how are you hey? I'm just fine now, Tony, you

1617
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 3: sound subdued. Everything going okay?

1618
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:25,879
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, everything's kind of cool, just a nice warm afternoon.

1619
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,879
Speaker 3: So I was just gonna ask that, Tony. We're landlocked

1620
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 3: here inside the building. We're in the interior of a building,

1621
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 3: so I have not been able to look outside. Things

1622
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 3: still looking Sonny.

1623
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 10: Outside Sonny and very warm and muggy.

1624
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 3: Okay, how bad is it? Because you know, I was

1625
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 3: gonna be out a colds camp today and ended up

1626
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 3: in here because for logistically speaking, to get Jonathan Taylor

1627
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 3: on who we may replay coming up just a little bit.

1628
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 3: I thought Jonathan Taylor was really good but I was

1629
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 3: worried about the heat. I was up in northern Indiana

1630
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 3: early this morning and I saw what I thought was

1631
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 3: this huge cloud, and then somebody explained to me that

1632
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 3: what I was witnessing was in fact the corn sweat

1633
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 3: that then burns off. It's like Indiana Bay Area fog,

1634
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 3: but it's made by corn. So how muggy is it

1635
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 3: out right now, Tony?

1636
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 10: I'd say it's on a scale of one to ten,

1637
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 10: it's probably about an eight. It's extremely, extremely muggy. And

1638
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 10: I got in my early morning swim. Oh really, and

1639
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 10: I'm probably just going to chill out for the rest

1640
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 10: of them.

1641
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 3: Now, Tonal, can we play a little get to know

1642
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 3: your listener because that's intriguing by the early morning swim.

1643
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 3: Are you okay with us? We've had we've done meetings

1644
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 3: on this segment of the show, and kids love it.

1645
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 3: In particular, We've had a lot of success with it, Tony.

1646
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 3: If you don't mind me asking how old a fell

1647
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 3: are you?

1648
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 10: Well, I'm seventy.

1649
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 3: Six, seventy six year old, Tony okay. And by the way, Tony,

1650
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 3: not that seventy six is old, because it's not in

1651
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 3: any way, shape or form but that is very impressive

1652
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 3: that you did your morning swim, right, I would I'm

1653
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,879
Speaker 3: guessing at seventy six, that puts you in a graduating

1654
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 3: class of high school somewhere around sixty seven, is that right?

1655
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 10: Sixty seven Southboard High School.

1656
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 3: Okay, here's an odd question for you, Tony. And I

1657
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 3: mean this with all sincerity because I find this fascinating,

1658
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 3: and this is one of those little nuances that I

1659
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 3: find fascinating and everyone else is probably going to think,

1660
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 3: what in the world, But I'm curious of this real quick, Tony,

1661
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 3: on a serious level, at the time that you were

1662
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 3: a senior in high school and the escalation of the

1663
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 3: Vietnam War and the realities of the draft taking place

1664
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 3: in particular up through I think seventy or seventy one,

1665
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 3: do you remember or can you recall just the tension

1666
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 3: or the stress level at that time of the confluence

1667
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 3: of the innocence of youth and then the instantaneous force

1668
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 3: into adulthood because of what was going on then and

1669
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 3: what it meant for you and your classmates.

1670
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 10: Very definitely, because I was, I mean, everybody watched the

1671
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 10: lottery drawings, yep. I was fortunate enough my number was

1672
01:30:55,920 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 10: two five and definitely made going to college an an

1673
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 10: absolute decision because that did at least give me some time, right,

1674
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 10: you know, with my deferment. But anyway, yeah, it was,

1675
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:18,560
Speaker 10: it was, it was. It was a tough time for

1676
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 10: a couple of years there. I had a lot of

1677
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:28,679
Speaker 10: friends that obviously we're not as fortunate that they either

1678
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 10: did end up in Vietnam or are chosen other route.

1679
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I understand, you know. I I just remember

1680
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 3: when I was in high school, Tony, I had a

1681
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 3: teacher once and a girl in my class was complaining

1682
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 3: about the pressures of having to get a certain grade

1683
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 3: to get into to get a scholarship to college or whatnot.

1684
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 3: And my teacher, mister Blomberg at the time, who was,

1685
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,759
Speaker 3: you know, a contemporary of yourself from an age standpoint

1686
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 3: or era, like, basically shut the door and said, do

1687
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 3: you want to talk about pressure of high school and college, Like,

1688
01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 3: let me tell you about what happened if I didn't

1689
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 3: get in college when I was your age, And he

1690
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 3: kind of spelled out what you just said. And I've

1691
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 3: just always had Tony as somebody who graduated from high

1692
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 3: school in nineteen ninety one. The goal for War started

1693
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 3: my senior high school. There was never even the remote

1694
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 3: possibility or thought obviously of a draft. And to then

1695
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 3: put myself in the position of what you guys must

1696
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 3: have gone through, guys and gals in your class, I

1697
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 3: think it is truly. Even though we say that that

1698
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 3: those from World War Two were the greatest generation, I

1699
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 3: think yours is right there with it. And I've always

1700
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 3: just had the utmost respect for what that turmoil must

1701
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 3: have been like and the wins of change in this

1702
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 3: country from say sixty five to seventy five. I think

1703
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 3: it's a decade that is almost unprecedented in terms of

1704
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 3: everything that took place. So for that, I tip my

1705
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 3: cap and I say thank you to you and to

1706
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 3: your classmates as well for going through that time period.

1707
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 3: And there were good times in that time period as well,

1708
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 3: some of those perhaps a company by the soundtrack of

1709
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 3: Three Dog Night. So I hope you can reflect on

1710
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 3: those positive times when you were enjoying the show on Friday, Tony,

1711
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 3: We'll send you out there, all right.

1712
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I might mention one of my classmates was

1713
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 10: a friend of yours, and a good friend of yours

1714
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 10: and acquaintance unfortunately passed away Robin Miller.

1715
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 3: Rob You know what Robin should have been. The first

1716
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 3: person I thought of was Southport because there's nobody that

1717
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 3: talked more about Southport at his time there. And Tony,

1718
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 3: I could go on for till the cows come home

1719
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 3: about Robin and the loyalty that he had the fact

1720
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 3: that that guy, it was Robin Miller, had a unique ability, Tony.

1721
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,799
Speaker 3: For every person he was friends with, you were convinced

1722
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 3: that you were his best friend. And he had an

1723
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 3: unbelievable ability to connect people that would have had no

1724
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 3: other connection. But if you were a friend of Robin's,

1725
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 3: you were a friend of that person's, you know what

1726
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 3: I mean. So it truly is a privilege to be

1727
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 3: able to say that, yes, in fact, we have that

1728
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 3: common friend.

1729
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:58,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, ran a lot together in high school. Robin got

1730
01:33:58,680 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 10: me into some trouble.

1731
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 3: I can only imagine, right probably on the daily right.

1732
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 10: As you know, as you you know, like say, you know, Robin,

1733
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 10: it was his mouth that got us into trouble. But uh,

1734
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 10: because he he was always uh like like as I

1735
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 10: used to say, writing writing checks that the account wouldn't cash.

1736
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 3: By the way, did he uh did he wear sweatsuits

1737
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 3: to school every day.

1738
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 1: No, No, he didn't. He was.

1739
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 10: He was the manager on our basketball.

1740
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 3: I knew that. I didn't. He's listen. He was proud

1741
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 3: of that. I mean, honestly, he was. He was darn

1742
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 3: proud of that.

1743
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 1: Man.

1744
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 3: He was proud of all you guys, Tony, no question

1745
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 3: about it. One of the all time greats.

1746
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 10: I think at one time I started to tell you

1747
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 10: a story about me and George McGinnis when I was

1748
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 10: playing against him. Uh that Uh you know, Georgie was

1749
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 10: a sophomore and at at Washington and I was pasked

1750
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 10: with guarding him, and.

1751
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: I was.

1752
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 10: I was six two and one hundred and sixty five. Yeah,

1753
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 10: and it was all elbow, all elbows and knees.

1754
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 3: Let's say, yeah, you guarded his kneecaps very well in

1755
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 3: that game, right.

1756
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I did.

1757
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 10: And at one point, with two minutes to go in

1758
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 10: the half, the refs stopped the game, took both of

1759
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 10: us by the arm, and walked us over the scorers

1760
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,640
Speaker 10: bench and told the coaches teater sit us down till

1761
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 10: halftime where he's throwing us both out and Robin and

1762
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 10: Robin is over there egging the refs on to throw

1763
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 10: us out, which I mean it would have been. It

1764
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 10: would have been a pawn for a queen.

1765
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 3: Absolutely beautiful. And then of course who would have guessed

1766
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,879
Speaker 3: that Robin would go on to become you know, basically

1767
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 3: best friends of George and all those ABA Pacers, and

1768
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 3: just as much as Staple within Central Indiana as mcguinnis,

1769
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 3: and you know obviously Downing, and you know that whole

1770
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 3: group Adner NIBBs, that whole group of that great sixty

1771
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 3: nine team for Indianapolis, Washington. All right, enjoy the show,

1772
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 3: Tony Steven Hold are going to join us other side.

1773
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 3: Report from Colts Camp. Steven Holder giving us the cold

1774
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 3: So the cold shoulder, you know, if you write down

1775
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 3: as Holder, it's shoulder and he's giving us the cold one.

1776
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1777
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to see if now, when you said it

1778
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,560
Speaker 3: didn't go through Kylon, you mean it was going Is

1779
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 3: he weeding us out? Is it going straight to voicemail?

1780
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 4: Like I mentioned, it's not even connected so I don't

1781
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 4: know if it's just the wrong number or I don't know. Man,

1782
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 4: You know what, he probably blocked this number specifically so

1783
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 4: he doesn't have to talk to us.

1784
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 3: You think that's it. That's entirely possible. Here's I'm giving

1785
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 3: you that. See if that's the number that you have

1786
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 3: for him. We'll check in with Stephen Holder just a second.

1787
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 3: A couple of things that took place at Colt's camp today.

1788
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 3: Number one, Jalen Jones was taken off the field with

1789
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 3: what appears to be a hamstring injury. We'll find out

1790
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 3: the latest on that. Shane Stikeen had made comment to

1791
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 3: it that might be him calling right now Kylon as

1792
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 3: a matter of fact. But then also that was not

1793
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:58,680
Speaker 3: the only injury. Michael Pittman left late in practice with

1794
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 3: a groin injury. There was also a bit of a

1795
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 3: scuffle between Jonathan Taylor, who we talked to earlier on

1796
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 3: the show, and Grover Stewart that I think it didn't

1797
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 3: sound when we talked to Jonathan Taylor, he had some

1798
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 3: interesting things to say about it, including those that kind

1799
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 3: of stepped up to diffuse. We will replay that for

1800
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 3: you in just a little bit, but first let's get

1801
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 3: to Steven Older, who joins us from I'm assuming no

1802
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:28,719
Speaker 3: longer standing on the side of the field in Westfield,

1803
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 3: because Steven, my understanding is it is now getting significantly

1804
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 3: warm outside, correct.

1805
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 1: It's a bit warm Florida that yeah, or or Hell

1806
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 1: that's what I imagine. Okay, Hellfield, So like, I don't know,

1807
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 1: not been there, thankfully.

1808
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 3: I think I would think. Though here's the thing, I

1809
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 3: would think that Hell is a dry heat, right, I.

1810
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: Mean, Arizona's a dry heat but still sucks, right, So sure.

1811
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough.

1812
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 1: You know.

1813
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 3: I had a buddy from Phoenix one time, though, I

1814
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 3: said to him, I said, how in the world do

1815
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 3: you live in one hundred and fifteen degree heat? And

1816
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 3: I'll never forget He said, Look, you and I both

1817
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 3: live in areas that can have extreme weather conditions, but

1818
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 3: none of them for me ever make it any slower

1819
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 3: to go out to get my mail. I mean that's

1820
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 3: a good point. Like you got to walk on ice,

1821
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 3: it's a good point, right, I.

1822
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: Mean you're probably walking pretty fast to get the mail

1823
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: when it's one hundred and fifteen.

1824
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't do a barefootair, do not do a barefoot Okay, Steven,

1825
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 3: let's get to this from an injury standpoint. I mentioned

1826
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 3: Jalen Jones, I mentioned Michael Pittman Junior. What else happened

1827
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 3: today out at camp and what is the latest in

1828
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 3: terms of anybody that may miss time.

1829
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'll just add for contact on the Jayalen

1830
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 1: Jones front. I mean, we all saw it happen. He

1831
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: was running down on an individual portion of practice to

1832
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: do the one on one passing drills, and he was

1833
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 1: trailing the receiver I forget who it was, and you know,

1834
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 1: sort of in a on a deep ball and he

1835
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 1: just pulled up lame and just went down immediately and

1836
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: grabbed that hamstring. And you know, it wasn't one of

1837
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,600
Speaker 1: those where he just kind of like tweaked it and

1838
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, just walked off the field. He went down hard,

1839
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 1: and it looked you know, I don't want to characterize

1840
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: it because I have no idea, right, but it did

1841
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 1: not look like like a routine thing. So I think

1842
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 1: there's concern there beyond that. I think the other one

1843
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: that's of note is Juju Brents missed practice today with

1844
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,839
Speaker 1: a hamstring and his Oh so you know that raises

1845
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: questions even beyond Elan Jones because now you have a

1846
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 1: possible depth issue at that position. I don't know if

1847
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: Jujubin's situation is serious. He practiced yesterday. He talked to

1848
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 1: reporters after practice I saw him, talk to him. He

1849
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 1: seemed fine, and then today he wasn't out there. So

1850
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of that, but that

1851
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 1: that was interesting and surprising, I guess. But if there's

1852
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 1: an issue there with him that is remotely long term,

1853
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: that's a concern because now you're down two guys out

1854
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 1: of maybe your top five corners, and that's not great.

1855
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 1: At a position where injuries are are high, they tend

1856
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 1: to be high. So anyway, I think that's the other

1857
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 1: one to mention.

1858
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 3: Let's get then to battle number one, which we're gonna

1859
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 3: check on each and every day. Quarterback battle today. If

1860
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,759
Speaker 3: you had to, if this was one of those games

1861
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 3: they have up on the video board, Steven where it

1862
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 3: shows like the you know section three in section four,

1863
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 3: are you know, cheer it on to see who's gonna

1864
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,719
Speaker 3: which dot's gonna win and they go back and forth,

1865
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 3: back and forth. Is that what this quarterback battle is?

1866
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 3: Or is it too early to say? If either one

1867
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 3: of them has a lead, I would.

1868
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: Say they've been very even. I wouldn't call it back

1869
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 1: and forth. In fact, it's weird when they when they've

1870
01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:00,679
Speaker 1: been good, they've both had days. I think the same time,

1871
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 1: and then when they've had bad days, those days have

1872
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: come at the same time. So I don't know if

1873
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,560
Speaker 1: you if you understand what I'm saying. But because of that,

1874
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 1: from an optics perspective, it doesn't look like anyone's really

1875
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: in a way because they're kind of they're kind of

1876
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 1: neck and neck. At least in my perspective. I tend

1877
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 1: to think for me, that means that that Andy Richardson

1878
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 1: probably has an edge. I got to feel like Daniel

1879
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 1: Jones has to come in and I think win the job.

1880
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: That's the way I conceive this going, at least in

1881
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 1: my head. I don't know what the colts Field and

1882
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: I would say, if that's the standard, then that has

1883
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 1: not happened so far.

1884
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Steven, tell me if this makes sense. And you

1885
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 3: might have to like kind of pause for a second

1886
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 3: after I say it to absorb it because it's going

1887
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 3: to sound weird. But I think I've simplified my thought

1888
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 3: by saying this. If Daniel Jones is the starter week one,

1889
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 3: it's likely it's not because Daniel Jones won the job.

1890
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 3: It's because Anthony Richardson did not.

1891
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 6: I think that's that's.

1892
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Potentially true because look, I think right now, if we

1893
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones keeps performing at the level he's performing

1894
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 1: at right now, it's not anything special.

1895
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Is its being pluck?

1896
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 1: No, it isn't. But I but I would say with him,

1897
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: I think what you have is he's playing at an

1898
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 1: acceptable level. So is Daniel Jones, right, but but nothing special.

1899
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, I think is performing at a an acceptable

1900
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 1: level right now in practice. Uh. The difference though, is

1901
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 1: he has the explosive ability both with his legs and

1902
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 1: his big arm, and and that I think critically in

1903
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 1: my mind, that separates him a little bit from Daniel

1904
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 1: Jones his version of ordinary. Does that make sense?

1905
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 3: It does? I think. Here's the thing. Let me, I

1906
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 3: guess A better way to say is this, does Anthony

1907
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 3: Richardson to you? Has he shown Stephen Holder any more

1908
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 3: consistency with the easy throws? We know he can make

1909
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 3: the hard throws, it's the routine throws. Is he any

1910
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 3: better with his accuracy?

1911
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 1: I would say yes, I do think so. Yeah, And

1912
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that he is he is

1913
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:38,879
Speaker 1: more decisive. I think, I think a little more decisive.

1914
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 1: One of the things he did last year and has

1915
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: done is maybe hold the ball a tick too long

1916
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 1: when that first read maybe isn't readily available. You've got

1917
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 1: to make snap decisions, and so he has gotten rid

1918
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: of the ball. I think on time today, I thought

1919
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 1: it was fantastic today in some spots. Now he was

1920
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 1: spotty at the end of but he had some really

1921
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: good throws today that were contested throws on the sideline

1922
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: outside the numbers. Not deep throws, but short and intermediate throws.

1923
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: Those are sometimes the hardest throws. The deep throws, those

1924
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 1: tend to be all about timing, right, you know, receiver wins.

1925
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 1: You give him a chance, he goes in and gets

1926
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 1: the ball. They're beautiful throws, and we love the big

1927
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 1: plays and all that, right, but where you really make

1928
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: your money is making the tough, contested throws. He's doing that,

1929
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 1: at least in practice right now, I think, at a

1930
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 1: level that is greater than I've ever seen him do it.

1931
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 1: And so if he's answering that question, I think it

1932
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 1: was the biggest question. He also is not turning it

1933
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:49,679
Speaker 1: over as much, which is a huge, I think point

1934
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 1: to make because last year I thought the turnovers were

1935
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 1: his biggest problem. He's mad, then he's a.

1936
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 3: Better player player to the to this point in camp.

1937
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 3: Steven Holder ESPN dot Com is our guest, the player

1938
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 3: in camp to this point who has most helped himself

1939
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 3: not named Bernard Ryman, by the way.

1940
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, helped himself a lot. You know, the

1941
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 1: guy that just keeps showing up. And I know if

1942
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 1: you're following the daily coverage, you've heard this name a lot,

1943
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,879
Speaker 1: but i'll repeat it justin Wally. I am thoroughly impressed

1944
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: the rookie cornerback from Minnesota. This guy every day he

1945
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 1: makes a play. I'm not joking every day, and with

1946
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 1: what I just outlined, with the injury situation at corner,

1947
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: it's only gonna strengthen the notion that he's an opening

1948
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 1: day starter. Look, they'll have Kennymore at the nickel corner

1949
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: and outside in the defense, but you know, generally a

1950
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 1: nickel corner Shavarius Ward, and then there's that third cornerback

1951
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 1: on the outside, the second outside cornerback. That's the position

1952
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 1: that's up for grabs. Jalen Jones was a starter there

1953
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: for seventeen games last season. He got hurt. Today. We'll

1954
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 1: see how bad it is. But I think even without

1955
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 1: the injury. Justin Wally is ahead of him right now,

1956
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: and he has earned it. I'm telling you, the guy

1957
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 1: makes a play every day. Yesterday I believe it was yesterday. Yeah,

1958
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 1: he had a pass breakup against Tyler Warren. Or it

1959
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: might have been Sunday. Their days run together. They're all hot,

1960
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 1: that's all I know. He had a pass breakup against

1961
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren. That was just a brilliant play. That guy

1962
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:36,560
Speaker 1: he has real, real stud potential. I think I'm exaggerating.

1963
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 1: He's been really good.

1964
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 3: How big is he? Because you know, like Juju Britz,

1965
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 3: I really like because he's big, right, But then you

1966
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 3: get I go back to like Tye Poole. You know,

1967
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 3: we've seen guys that are smaller, but if they've got

1968
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 3: reaction time, it doesn't matter how big is is.

1969
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 1: Whelly not big at all. He's like five ten. And

1970
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 1: in fact, it was the most puzzled thing to me

1971
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 1: because Chris Ballard has made no bones about it. I

1972
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: mean he likes long cornerbacks. You see the guys that

1973
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 1: he has drafted over the years. I mean Juju Brent's

1974
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 1: being a great example. It's the reason he wasn't even

1975
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: interested in mean Kenny Moore off waivers when he was

1976
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 1: available well eight years ago or whatever that was, and

1977
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: his personnel staff had to like beg him to make

1978
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 1: the waiver claim. That turned out okay. But you know,

1979
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore is a small guy. He's five to nine

1980
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:32,520
Speaker 1: and and wasn't you know, didn't have the the dimensions

1981
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 1: that Chris Paller looks for. So I saw that here

1982
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 1: with with Justin Wallly, and I was kind of sprised

1983
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 1: they would make the pick. But they what they really

1984
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: like and what they what they thought would help him

1985
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 1: overcome his size is his competitiveness. He has an edge

1986
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:50,759
Speaker 1: to him, man, I'm telling you. And and at that position,

1987
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 1: you got to have an edge mental and physically. He's

1988
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 1: tough and he is competitive, and there's there's a lot

1989
01:47:57,560 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: to like there. I really like to pick so far, Stephen.

1990
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 3: When you look at an NFL roster in general, over

1991
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 3: your experience of watching teams being built, the position where

1992
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 3: you can mask or hide a player that is not

1993
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 3: up to par is where what is this of the

1994
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 3: non specialty position, So I'm not talking punter, kicker, long snapper,

1995
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 3: but of the everyday down positions, which one is the

1996
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 3: one where if you had to pick one guy that

1997
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 3: is like the least on your depth chart. You can

1998
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 3: get away with it at that spot and it kind

1999
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 3: of gets covered up.

2000
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 1: So I think the one that historically has been true

2001
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 1: as linebacker, and they may be hind to do that

2002
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 1: here frankly because they haven't invested anything in that position.

2003
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 1: So maybe there's truth to that. Maybe they adhere to

2004
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: that philosophy in Indy. I guess depending on defense. Sometimes

2005
01:48:56,479 --> 01:49:00,120
Speaker 1: depending on what that players asked to do. Safety or

2006
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: at least one of the safeties if you're playing if

2007
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 1: you're playing a safety that's for example, in the box

2008
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: like the Colts used to do with Gus Bradley's position

2009
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 1: or Gus Bradley's defense, sometimes you can mask that with

2010
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: the strong safety that Freezete's got to be able to

2011
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: cover a lot of ground in a single high defense.

2012
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 1: So that would not that would not be a choice.

2013
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 1: But certainly some safeties and some defenses, and I think

2014
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 1: linebackers that's the little ones. I'd say. The other one

2015
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 1: would be maybe interior offensive line. But if you but

2016
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 1: with the emergence of these these stud defensive tackles that

2017
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: we see today, that's gotten harder and you can't hide

2018
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 1: them anymore. And then one other thing I'd add is

2019
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: that at linebacker, with the way some of these tight

2020
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 1: ends have emerged and the matchups that you get put

2021
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 1: in there, you can't hide them sometimes either. So you

2022
01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: know at some point everybody's going to have to make.

2023
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 3: A Steven Holder, our guest ESPN dot Com is where

2024
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 3: you can read his work as he covers Colt's camp

2025
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 3: and gets you set for the regular season, obviously, and

2026
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 3: all the way through the preseason. Steven, what about a

2027
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 3: player so far in this camp that has most hurt themselves?

2028
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 3: And I don't mean from an injury standpoint, and I

2029
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 3: don't mean at the quarterback spot, but somebody that you

2030
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 3: look at and you just go, Boy, opportunities there in

2031
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 3: a platter, and they have yet to reach out and

2032
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 3: grab it.

2033
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 8: You.

2034
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 1: No, I still come back to a d Mitchell just

2035
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 1: the inconsistency for me, I just I don't know how

2036
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 1: you trust him.

2037
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 11: Now.

2038
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 1: He's had a good couple of days, I would say,

2039
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 1: yesterday and today I thought he's bounced back and he

2040
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 1: needed it because he was dropping, damn there everything for

2041
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 1: the first week of camp. And I don't know if

2042
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 1: there was something going on with him, if he was

2043
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 1: just trying too hard, and maybe there was an issue

2044
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 1: there where he's just forcing things.

2045
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2046
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a psychologist, but I just I saw a

2047
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:06,600
Speaker 1: guy who just could not be counted on, and I

2048
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 1: think for him. You know, this is a team of

2049
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 1: coaching staff that has been over backwards to tell us

2050
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 1: we still love this guy and he's still a guy

2051
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 1: that we believe in. They've done that repeatedly, and my

2052
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 1: argument has been he hasn't earned that, but they keep

2053
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: telling us that, right, and so at some point you

2054
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 1: have to actually give some evidence of what your coaches

2055
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,560
Speaker 1: are saying is true. And he had not done that

2056
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 1: through the first week of camp. We'll see if he

2057
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:39,719
Speaker 1: can keep this going in the last couple of days,

2058
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,679
Speaker 1: the bounce back that he's had, but but that remains

2059
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:44,680
Speaker 1: had a good day.

2060
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 3: He had a good day today.

2061
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, I'd say, I'd say yes.

2062
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:51,560
Speaker 3: Now, let me ask you about this guy. You know,

2063
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 3: each year I go all in on a guy, right,

2064
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 3: I go all in. Usually it's a guy I know

2065
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 3: nothing about. I just look at the roster and I

2066
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 3: go I like that guy. Okay, Like the high school

2067
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:05,839
Speaker 3: he went to or of course right. Uh, Landon Parker's

2068
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 3: got hair like Jeff's McCoy and he's a rookie at

2069
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 3: the age of twenty five out of Troy. I'm all

2070
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 3: in on Landon Parker. Have you heard of Landon Parker.

2071
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 3: He's a wide receiver.

2072
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, a big expert on land.

2073
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 3: Is he still there?

2074
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:20,600
Speaker 1: Do we know?

2075
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 3: If he's still there? He might have been released earlier today.

2076
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so, not that I'm aware of, but

2077
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 1: I reserved the right to be wrong.

2078
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 3: A year ago, my guy was Derek I think his

2079
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 3: name was Derek Slifka, something like that.

2080
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 1: I remember this. We had many conversations about this guy. Well, no,

2081
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 1: you had conversations and I just nodded, you know.

2082
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 3: Derek slifegood. By the way, a little non fun fact,

2083
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 3: future roommate of Landon Parker, just so you know, right,

2084
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 3: they're going to be sharing a two bedroom somewhere in

2085
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 3: the UFL.

2086
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:50,560
Speaker 1: It sounds like a player that, you know what, and

2087
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: they'll live happily.

2088
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 3: Ever at I even went all in in the in

2089
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 3: the USFL, now the UFL or whatever it's called. I

2090
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 3: went all in on the Birmingham Stallions and now they're

2091
01:52:57,439 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 3: moving like I'm literally yesterday I had Jalen Jones on

2092
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:02,560
Speaker 3: the show, he heard his hamstring. Ale Pierce on the

2093
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 3: show gets a booboo blister. I mean, I'm a walking

2094
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 3: jinx Steven. As a matter of fact, you're not driving

2095
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 3: right now, are you?

2096
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 6: I am?

2097
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 1: But you did get Bernard Raymond paid, so I gave

2098
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 1: you that one.

2099
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 3: Listen, I look, look, you got to you gotta get

2100
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 3: Bernard Ryman knew what he was saying, didn't he?

2101
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's no idiot, very savvy. I

2102
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 1: love it. That was when a plan comes together.

2103
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,640
Speaker 3: Should I get agent gets seven percent? Should I get

2104
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 3: three and a half percent? For those that are unfamiliar,

2105
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 3: Bernard Ryman on this radio show spoke out about how

2106
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 3: far away he was with the Colts on a contract

2107
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 3: agreement that went somewhat noteworthy from a national standpoint amongst

2108
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 3: football circles, and then people were like, what is Indianapolis doing?

2109
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 3: And then by a boom, he gets one hundred million

2110
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 3: bucks three and a half percent. I should get right.

2111
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you start there and then you negotiate from there.

2112
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 1: I'd say, but that's a good start.

2113
01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 3: I'll take a watch, don't guys do running backs by

2114
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 3: lineman watches. I'll take a watch.

2115
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 1: I think I think that's fair. I think that's fair.

2116
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 3: You know.

2117
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:10,680
Speaker 1: I would also add, just Claire, I do think just

2118
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 1: as much as you might have helped him, he might

2119
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 1: also have been helped by the gargantuan contracts that other

2120
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: offensive linemen have signed in the last few weeks. But

2121
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's just me saying that.

2122
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 3: Oh, you're right. I mean, there's no doubt about the fact.

2123
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 3: As we talked about Steven kidding aside, the Colts kind

2124
01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 3: of had to get it done because his tag, unless

2125
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,680
Speaker 3: he got hurt, was only going to go up right

2126
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 3: his price.

2127
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'll understand. He's gotten better every year. That's

2128
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 1: the thing about him, which is which is great, that's

2129
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 1: what you want. But what if he goes out there

2130
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 1: and he shuts down all these stud defensive ends. Well,

2131
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: if you're his agents, you're like, buddy, you know that

2132
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 1: that contract we talked about last year, Yeah, forget that right,

2133
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 1: that's exactly the conversation. So they were right to do

2134
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: it now. And they've done this with all their their

2135
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: big offensive linemen. They did this with with Clinton Nelson,

2136
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 1: they did it with Ryan Kelly multiple times. They did

2137
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 1: it in Smith right. They signed all these guys going

2138
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 1: into the final year of their rookie deals. And that's

2139
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: how you do it. Don't screw around when you got

2140
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 1: a good thing, you know. I think I look at

2141
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 1: it as team building. I look at it as problem solving, right.

2142
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 1: Your goal, Your job is to go out there and

2143
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 1: figure it out, figure things out, solve problems. Well, letting

2144
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 1: your your left tackle who you love get to free agency,

2145
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: that is creating a problem. So this was a problem

2146
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 1: solving move by the Colts to lock them up and

2147
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 1: now they're there.

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01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 3: Okay, Steven. In conclusion, give me a problem when it

2149
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 3: comes to the Colts that you are looking for a

2150
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 3: riddle or I should say a riddle for the Colts

2151
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 3: that you're looking for the answer here in the next

2152
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 3: couple of days, we are looking for what storylines now

2153
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 3: through Camp.

2154
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 1: I guess I'd say consistency at wide receiver. These guys

2155
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 1: are too good, I think, to be up and down

2156
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 1: the way they have been. Pittman and Downs been better

2157
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 1: the last couple of days, So I'm happy about that.

2158
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 3: Okay. Pittman injury groin injury today you say not significant

2159
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 3: at least, right, I don'n't think so.

2160
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 3: Okay anyway, as you were on the receiver.

2162
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:24,360
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just think way too uneven for the

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01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 1: first week of camp. And these guys are too good

2164
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 1: for that, and they got to help the quarterback. So

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01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 1: let's just see if they can continue that what they've

2166
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 1: done the last couple of days and make what the

2167
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: first week was, or let me rephrase that, make the

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01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 1: first week an aberration. Let's put it that way. The

2169
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 1: other thing, I guess if you want a bonus one,

2170
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,760
Speaker 1: look next week or in fact, a week from today,

2171
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 1: they're in Baltimore. Let's see how they look against Lamar Jackson,

2172
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 1: and let's see what kind of stress he puts on them,

2173
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 1: and that'll tell us a lot about this defense. So

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01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 1: that's an upcoming riddle you know that we made an

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01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 1: answer to. By the way, in.

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01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 3: Terms of consistency at receiver. Let me introduce you to

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Speaker 3: Landon Parker.

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01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean, here you are with an answer.

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01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 3: It's eleven. I'm telling you looks like SPECCOLEI the answer.

2180
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 3: It looks like Speccoli plays like Jefferson. That's all I

2181
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 3: got to say, all Right, Steven Holder appreciate it. We

2182
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 3: will talk to you soon, all right, Stay cool at camp. Oh, Stephen,

2183
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 3: you know what, hold on, I got one other one

2184
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 3: for you. Sorry, I totally forgot this. Are you still there?

2185
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. Listen.

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01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you on the spot here, and I

2187
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 3: apologize for that. But I totally never do that.

2188
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 1: I know you never do that.

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01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 3: We have mentioned before on the program. Your uncle in

2190
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 3: law is Hall of Famer Andre Dawson. I think we've

2191
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 3: mentioned that on the show. I hope you don't mind

2192
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 3: me outing that that your wife spend a lot of

2193
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 3: time in childhood with Andre Dawson, her uncle. I'm just

2194
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 3: strictly curious whether or not, just in pat you know,

2195
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 3: yesterday or whatever it may be, if she ever made

2196
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 3: mention of the fact, or if she ever had any

2197
01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 3: encounter with Ryan Sandbrig since we lost Ryan Samberg yesterday.

2198
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 3: I thought maybe there might have been a story that

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01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 3: she had shared with you that you could share.

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01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 1: No, she knew the family in fact, yeah, and if

2201
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 1: I recall correctly, may have actually baby sat his kids,

2202
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 1: so I mean, you know, when she was like twelve.

2203
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, that I said. The first thing I

2204
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 1: thought about when I saw the news. So yeah, that

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01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 1: whole Cub's crew back in the day. From everything I

2206
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 1: was told, I mean I wasn't there, but everything I've told,

2207
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a really close knit group, as

2208
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 1: you can imagine, right, and they're all the families are

2209
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 1: still close and all that. So yeah, I haven't talked

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01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 1: to Dere since that news or heard from him, but

2211
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 1: I imagine, I imagine he'll he'll be there for the

2212
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 1: services and that kind of thing. That group's still pretty close,

2213
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:51,240
Speaker 1: so I definitely that's definitely struck a quarter with me

2214
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: when I saw it for that reason.

2215
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, great player, no question, appreciate it, Steven as always.

2216
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 3: Ryan Samberg, who's daughter, by the way, lived in Central

2217
01:58:58,280 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 3: and I think Ryan Samberg spent a lot of time

2218
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 3: it might have even lived here briefly, but truly truly

2219
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 3: a class gentlemen. All right. There was a scuffle at

2220
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 3: the Colts camp. One of the guys that got after

2221
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 3: he got in a fight, he came out with us

2222
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 3: and we'll let you hear a little of that next

2223
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 3: Dropkick Murphy's They're gonna be out at Verwise Amphitheater at

2224
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 3: the Lawn at White River awesome facility. We will give

2225
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 3: tickets away coming up just a couple of minutes, but

2226
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,200
Speaker 3: first I want to replay for you. We don't normally

2227
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 3: do that, but I thought there was some really good

2228
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 3: stuff in here, and we had them right off the

2229
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 3: top of the show. Essentially, Jonathan Taylor of the Colts

2230
01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 3: joined us, and of course the first question was simply

2231
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 3: the mindset for a guy now entering year number six in.

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01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 6: Camp, it's great to actually be able to come out

2233
01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 6: here and get better, especially with athletes for so schedule

2234
01:59:41,120 --> 01:59:44,200
Speaker 6: and so regimented and our scheduled that when you have

2235
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 6: a timeline and let's say you had somebody to take

2236
01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 6: care of in the off season to get healthy, and

2237
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:50,560
Speaker 6: then at that point in time, you're not ready because

2238
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 6: we know the body is weird and an act different.

2239
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 6: So you get a little frustrated because you know you

2240
01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 6: put so much work in and yet still you weren't

2241
01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 6: able to be healthy to be on the field. So

2242
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 6: finally being able to another camp where you can just

2243
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 6: come out focus on your craft, I think it's just

2244
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 6: that much better in order to build that chemistry with

2245
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 6: the guys up front, but then also just preparing for

2246
02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:11,360
Speaker 6: the season to have everything and the playbook under your belt,

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02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:13,880
Speaker 6: and all the little nuances that we might have picked

2248
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 6: up throughout the off season, having that lockdown heading.

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Speaker 1: Into the season.

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Speaker 3: Over the course of your career, you have obviously taken

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02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 3: handoffs from myriad of quarterbacks as a running back. How

2252
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:29,680
Speaker 3: important is it to have stability at the quarterback position

2253
02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 3: in terms of just the overall I guess chemistry, timing.

2254
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:38,440
Speaker 1: All of it well, number one, especially with ball handling.

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Speaker 6: You know, when you just continuously are getting in handoffs

2256
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 6: in the same quarterback, you kind of know their steps.

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02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:46,800
Speaker 6: You know on outside zone, are they you know, a

2258
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 6: longer step guy, or they a shorter step guy. You

2259
02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:51,760
Speaker 6: kind of know whenever verse and now you know how

2260
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 6: tight they're going to be because you know everybody's different,

2261
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:56,480
Speaker 6: especially when you have quarterbacks who are taller and you know,

2262
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 6: have longer legs than others. So you know, when you're

2263
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 6: able to get those repetitive from just one quarterback, it's

2264
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,160
Speaker 6: much easier and you get much more comfortable knowing like hey,

2265
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:06,120
Speaker 6: when they call the team, you know, okay, hey, I

2266
02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:07,840
Speaker 6: have to really get to my spot because I know

2267
02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 6: the quarterbacks want to be there fast, or hey, I

2268
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:11,480
Speaker 6: got a little bit of time. Quarterback may have a

2269
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 6: little bit shorter leg, so I got a little bit

2270
02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:13,840
Speaker 6: of time to get there.

2271
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 3: Our Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson in terms of style

2272
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 3: or in terms of just overall nuances within them, is

2273
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:26,760
Speaker 3: this the closest you've seen quarterback one to two in

2274
02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:30,600
Speaker 3: terms of the starter or backup that you have had

2275
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 3: in your offense since you've been here.

2276
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 6: They are very similar, And I don't think people realize,

2277
02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:39,120
Speaker 6: like Daniel was actually really athletic. I don't know if

2278
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 6: they realize like you ran like twenty one almost twenty

2279
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:45,320
Speaker 6: two miles four, so really able to have distinct different

2280
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 6: quarterbacks with different styles. So if you know, one was

2281
02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 6: up one week kind of play, what would be different

2282
02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 6: than the other. But they're actually very similar. So I

2283
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 6: think that actually gives us an edge, especially you know

2284
02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 6: we have you know, have to rely on both of

2285
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,840
Speaker 6: those guys. It doesn't shift they came plan much either.

2286
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:02,120
Speaker 6: Just like in the past, Like I said, you know,

2287
02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 6: two distinct style quarterbacks, they kind of have to switch

2288
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 6: up kind of what you guys are gonna run.

2289
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:08,880
Speaker 3: You know, it is true now you mentioned Daniel Jones,

2290
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 3: like twenty two miles an hour. That's your speed, right,

2291
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:14,080
Speaker 3: I mean, do you guys are you competitive about this

2292
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:16,440
Speaker 3: because that's that's Jonathan Taylor's speed, is it not?

2293
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:19,360
Speaker 6: That is That's why I'm I'm like, I don't think

2294
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:22,200
Speaker 6: people realize how I've leg he actually is. And I

2295
02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:24,440
Speaker 6: know people probably think he's athletic, but I want them

2296
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:27,040
Speaker 6: to realize, like, no, actually, this dude's like pretty athletic,

2297
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 6: like he can roll.

2298
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:31,160
Speaker 3: How much of you gotten a chance to you know,

2299
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,400
Speaker 3: I know you obviously know Anthony Richards and Jonathan Taylor

2300
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:35,440
Speaker 3: our guest. How much you have you gotten a chance

2301
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 3: to work with and know away from field, Daniel Jones.

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02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 6: I've been able to do a lot, and I just

2303
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 6: think that it's gonna take some time, know, to continue

2304
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 6: to build. Like you mentioned, each year, it seemed like,

2305
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 6: you know, it's been, you know, a different guy back there.

2306
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 6: So he's another face that I have to not even

2307
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,600
Speaker 6: figure out, just get reps to learn because every guy

2308
02:02:56,720 --> 02:02:59,080
Speaker 6: has their own talent and every guy is different. So

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02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 6: it's just going to continue. You were only in the

2310
02:03:00,640 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 6: second week of camp, so we're going to continue to

2311
02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 6: build that relationship and continue to build those reps together.

2312
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:08,760
Speaker 6: So that when Sunday comes around, whoever's back there, that

2313
02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:10,480
Speaker 6: we're able to heal all cylinders.

2314
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:13,480
Speaker 3: This is the most And Jonathan Taylor, you know I've

2315
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:16,320
Speaker 3: had you on the show before. This to me feels

2316
02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 3: like the most energetic and optimistic Jonathan Taylor I've heard

2317
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:21,120
Speaker 3: in a while. Am I reading too much into that?

2318
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:24,600
Speaker 6: I'd like to think that I'm always like this, But

2319
02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:27,000
Speaker 6: I'm glad that you feel as Doug and I'm bringing

2320
02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,560
Speaker 6: all energy to the show, which is amazing. Hopefully the

2321
02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:31,240
Speaker 6: ratings are big time.

2322
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 1: Yea.

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02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,720
Speaker 3: We need all the help we can get in that regard, Jonathan,

2324
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 3: So thank you. Do you want to stick around till three?

2325
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 3: We can use you till three? Do you want to

2326
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 3: stick around?

2327
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:40,080
Speaker 6: So you might have to talk to coach psych and

2328
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 6: we got meetings. We got meetings now.

2329
02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 1: I want to know this.

2330
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 3: I want to know if in one of those meetings

2331
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 3: you've got to play Kumbaya because let me read you

2332
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 3: what James Boyd, who does our morning show, had posted

2333
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:51,600
Speaker 3: on the expost Twitter earlier. Just a little bit ago,

2334
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:55,160
Speaker 3: Colts defensive tackle Grover Stewart just through Jonathan Taylor to

2335
02:03:55,200 --> 02:03:58,480
Speaker 3: the ground after Taylor made a short catch j T

2336
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:02,080
Speaker 3: took exception and shoved Grove in the chest. Lying left

2337
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:04,880
Speaker 3: guard Quentin Nelson came over and had some words for

2338
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:07,600
Speaker 3: Grover Stewart as well, and he says, second day of

2339
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 3: PADS has been physical, all right, your recollection of.

2340
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 6: It definitely Grove got into the moment game time. He's

2341
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:17,320
Speaker 6: flying around. He'd let me know, he said, listen, man,

2342
02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:19,360
Speaker 6: I thought it was game time, rightfully. So that's the

2343
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:21,320
Speaker 6: type of edge that we need on the field. I'm

2344
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:24,280
Speaker 6: sure you guys have seen the film of Grover's bullying

2345
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:27,600
Speaker 6: guys on the offensive line, so seg like you mentioned,

2346
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:30,360
Speaker 6: second day of PAD, he probably got into god to

2347
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 6: that mode a little bit too much, But that's what

2348
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:34,120
Speaker 6: we need. That's the type of edge that we need

2349
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:36,080
Speaker 6: in order to go where we want to go this year.

2350
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:38,680
Speaker 3: Somebody asked me this question, Jonathan Taylor, so I'll ask

2351
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:40,280
Speaker 3: it to you. I think it's a good one. And

2352
02:04:40,440 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 3: that is, if there are moments where someone is lagging,

2353
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 3: where somebody is just going through the motions as opposed

2354
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,920
Speaker 3: to the intensity that is necessary, who is the player

2355
02:04:51,080 --> 02:04:54,000
Speaker 3: in your locker room, on your roster that is the

2356
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 3: one that just automatically is the leader that will not

2357
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 3: be afraid to get in a guy's grill and say,

2358
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,720
Speaker 3: got to be a professional here, let's pick it up.

2359
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 3: That guy for this roster is who.

2360
02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 6: Oh, definitely, definitely Quintin Nelson is always especially what the

2361
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:10,680
Speaker 6: guys off the line. You guys know the trajectory that

2362
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:13,480
Speaker 6: Quinton Nelson is on, not only on the field, but

2363
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:15,560
Speaker 6: off of the field as well. And he's a guy

2364
02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 6: who does everything the right way. He's he's a true

2365
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:21,200
Speaker 6: pros pro and if guys seem to be not holding

2366
02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:24,360
Speaker 6: up to the standard here in the building, he's definitely

2367
02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:27,000
Speaker 6: wanted to say, listen, that's not the standard, and we're

2368
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 6: always fully behind you. Because at the end of the day,

2369
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:31,840
Speaker 6: you want someone who you know, day in and day out,

2370
02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:34,440
Speaker 6: is given everything he has to this organization, and that's

2371
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:36,200
Speaker 6: someone you want to be like. Ever you want to

2372
02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 6: be like Quenton Nelson, you want to be like the

2373
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:40,520
Speaker 6: Bisus side, you want to be like a DeFord Buckner.

2374
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 6: So that's definitely having those two guys as model professionals.

2375
02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 6: That's what a lot of guys are striving to be.

2376
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:50,200
Speaker 3: He strikes me Quentin Nelson is a guy that doesn't

2377
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:52,040
Speaker 3: speak a lot, so is he one of those that

2378
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 3: when he does, you know it means business or are

2379
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:57,080
Speaker 3: we just kind of hidden from the real gregarious nature

2380
02:05:57,080 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 3: of Quentin Nelson No.

2381
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 6: Quinton definitely, We definitely won't say a whole lot, but

2382
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:04,440
Speaker 6: like you mentioned, when he speaks powerful.

2383
02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, our guest, all right, let's get to this

2384
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 3: before we let you get back into meetings, Jonathan, in

2385
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:14,800
Speaker 3: terms of you personally where you are right now, in

2386
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:17,680
Speaker 3: terms of just kind of getting the feel again for

2387
02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 3: the speed of the season, and I guess if you

2388
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 3: will what things do you still feel like you need

2389
02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 3: to work on or you need to perfect before we

2390
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:27,760
Speaker 3: get into week one.

2391
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:30,360
Speaker 1: Definitely, being efficient.

2392
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 6: There's never a time where even if things break down

2393
02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 6: with the blocking scheme up front, can you get back

2394
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:38,120
Speaker 6: to the line of scrimmage, can you turn a no

2395
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:40,680
Speaker 6: gain or a negative gain into a one to two

2396
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:43,040
Speaker 6: yard game? Is at the end of the day, continuant

2397
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:46,160
Speaker 6: to move the sticks forward, continuing to be able to

2398
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:48,840
Speaker 6: move the change is something that a great running back

2399
02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:50,840
Speaker 6: is able to do it That helps the offense. That

2400
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:53,360
Speaker 6: helps the offense, especially when you get towards third down,

2401
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 6: so it's not third and eleven, third and ten, now

2402
02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 6: at the worst you may be working with third and

2403
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:00,240
Speaker 6: seven or third and six, So I will say being

2404
02:07:00,280 --> 02:07:02,560
Speaker 6: able to work on that is definitely something that I

2405
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:04,960
Speaker 6: still want to make sure that I'm pushing forward to.

2406
02:07:05,160 --> 02:07:05,880
Speaker 1: Start of this season.

2407
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 3: By the way, November fifteenth, Wisconsin at Indiana, Kurtz Signetti,

2408
02:07:09,320 --> 02:07:11,040
Speaker 3: they're going to do it again? Is Indiana gonna stun

2409
02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:11,800
Speaker 3: Wisconsin here?

2410
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all,

2411
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 6: not at all.

2412
02:07:15,680 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 1: Listen, witchconsin.

2413
02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:19,720
Speaker 6: Although we had to kind of get our feet underneath us,

2414
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:22,920
Speaker 6: that's all. That's nice and cool. But now it's time

2415
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:25,240
Speaker 6: for Wisconsin. They get back to Wisconsin football, and I'm

2416
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:27,760
Speaker 6: really looking forward to those guys taking that next step

2417
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:28,480
Speaker 6: forward this year.

2418
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:32,240
Speaker 3: Jonathan. It is always a pleasure, man. I appreciate the optimism,

2419
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:34,960
Speaker 3: the energy, the good vibes, the sunshine, all of it.

2420
02:07:35,120 --> 02:07:37,520
Speaker 3: And obviously we don't need any more heat out at

2421
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:40,200
Speaker 3: Colts Camp. But mind your p's and q's with those

2422
02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:43,360
Speaker 3: guys that are flying around making plays. But certainly look

2423
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 3: forward to having you back on the program. And I

2424
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:46,680
Speaker 3: appreciate the time today well to let you get back

2425
02:07:46,720 --> 02:07:48,640
Speaker 3: into your your position meetings here.

2426
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:51,520
Speaker 6: Thank you very much, man I appreciate you.

2427
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor from earlier today on this program, we had

2428
02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 3: told you drop Kick Murphy's. We have tickets to give away.

2429
02:07:58,360 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 3: That is going to be and listen, the lawn and

2430
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:04,800
Speaker 3: theverys Amphitheater. Our friends at Live Nation putting that show on.

2431
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:08,000
Speaker 3: But that facility is awesome and in particular, just on

2432
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:10,400
Speaker 3: a summer night, even if you're whether you're you know,

2433
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 3: in the lawn or underneath the overhang, awesome facility, super

2434
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 3: convenient right there downtown. We have tickets for it for

2435
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 3: their show. I've got Kylin. Do you have the date

2436
02:08:20,120 --> 02:08:21,920
Speaker 3: of that show? I'd have to look it up, Yeah,

2437
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 3: real quick.

2438
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,240
Speaker 4: Next Tuesday, August fifth.

2439
02:08:24,200 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 3: August, the fifth Tuesday night, gonna be a perfect night.

2440
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:28,840
Speaker 3: We will give away those tickets at two three nine

2441
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:31,840
Speaker 3: one zero seven zero, betterly known as two three nine

2442
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:35,640
Speaker 3: ten seventy next me a super fun show. I'm telling

2443
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 3: you drop Kick Murphy's tickets to give away. Two nine

2444
02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 3: ten seventy is the telephone number. We're gonna go roulette

2445
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 3: style and I'll go line two line too. That leaves us, Jeff, Jeff,

2446
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:49,920
Speaker 3: you are on the program.

2447
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:52,320
Speaker 1: How are you? Jeff? Hello? Jeff?

2448
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:55,160
Speaker 3: Fine, Jeff, you sound like a nice fella. Are you

2449
02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:56,560
Speaker 3: a native to Indianapolis Chef?

2450
02:08:58,200 --> 02:09:01,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I was born in Denver, came here when

2451
02:09:01,680 --> 02:09:04,360
Speaker 7: dev Got transferred to a different Air Force base, and

2452
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:07,360
Speaker 7: been here for seventy one and a half years.

2453
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:10,080
Speaker 3: I love it all right. So and you were born

2454
02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:10,839
Speaker 3: where again.

2455
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 7: Denver at the Air Force base out in Denver, Denver?

2456
02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:18,360
Speaker 3: Got you? Okay? My girlfriend Shannon's from Denver. As a

2457
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:20,040
Speaker 3: matter of fact, not born in Denver, but from Denver.

2458
02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:21,200
Speaker 3: Do you ever go back to Denver?

2459
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:25,240
Speaker 7: Jeff, Yeah, go out and see Tedesky trucks at the

2460
02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:27,040
Speaker 7: Red Rocks every year.

2461
02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:27,560
Speaker 1: Man.

2462
02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:29,160
Speaker 3: Red Rocks is the best, isn't it.

2463
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:30,640
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.

2464
02:09:30,840 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 7: It's amazing.

2465
02:09:32,680 --> 02:09:34,960
Speaker 3: Of course, you got the NHRA strip right behind it.

2466
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 3: You got Red Rocks. I don't know if you've ever

2467
02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 3: noticed this, but when you leave Red Rocks, when you

2468
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 3: walk up the walkway out of Red Rocks, that's the

2469
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:43,960
Speaker 3: Amphitheater in Denver, Colorado. It was built actually as part

2470
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:46,720
Speaker 3: of the New Deal after the war. When you are

2471
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 3: actually after the depression before the war, when you when

2472
02:09:50,120 --> 02:09:53,320
Speaker 3: you walk up out of Red Rocks, in the Rocks

2473
02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:57,280
Speaker 3: there there's actually embedded they have fossils, dinosaur fossils. Have

2474
02:09:57,320 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 3: you ever noticed that?

2475
02:09:59,400 --> 02:09:59,600
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2476
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:02,720
Speaker 7: Uh been to the ground the gift shop for her

2477
02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:04,520
Speaker 7: and stuff down below it, yep.

2478
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 6: And younger people to me go.

2479
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:10,400
Speaker 7: Hiking up there. But that's that's not gonna happen.

2480
02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:13,600
Speaker 3: When Shannon was in high school, she actually climbed the

2481
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:17,400
Speaker 3: Three Big Rocks, which is highly illegal, and oh yes

2482
02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:19,480
Speaker 3: it is. Yeah, I should probably never do that again.

2483
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 3: Nor had mentioned mention it on live radio. All right,

2484
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:24,160
Speaker 3: Jeff drop tick Murphy's We'll get you the tickets. You

2485
02:10:24,160 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 3: will love it. I promise it'll be like being in

2486
02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:29,040
Speaker 3: a night at Red Rocks, perfect night, downtown Indy. And

2487
02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:31,600
Speaker 3: I appreciate you listening to the show and calling in.

2488
02:10:31,760 --> 02:10:34,240
Speaker 3: Kylo will get your information before she does that. Paul

2489
02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 3: has been waiting patiently to talk Colts, so we will

2490
02:10:37,560 --> 02:10:40,320
Speaker 3: bring him in. Hi, Paul, how are you hey?

2491
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:41,360
Speaker 1: Paul? Hey?

2492
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 3: Glad to me man, Paully, what's up, buddy?

2493
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:44,760
Speaker 7: Hey?

2494
02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:48,560
Speaker 11: Just helped the Colts this year like left Tack when

2495
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:52,080
Speaker 11: he do everything better with Anthony Richardson the last year.

2496
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 11: And it sounds like from what everybody was saying, I

2497
02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 11: hope that keeps pulled out so they can keep people

2498
02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:02,320
Speaker 11: from getting him and uh, when everybody gets in the

2499
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:04,920
Speaker 11: trenches and uh, I'm glad.

2500
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:08,160
Speaker 1: Hopefully the fever. I'm you know, hoping they're doing great. Uh.

2501
02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:10,200
Speaker 1: Then tomorrow, tomorrow I'll.

2502
02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:13,200
Speaker 11: Get out and see them, and I hope you're doing good.

2503
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 8: Uh.

2504
02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have to keep in touch.

2505
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 11: I'll get because you and H and Jay and b

2506
02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:22,040
Speaker 11: thank you for those Bob Dylon tickets.

2507
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:24,800
Speaker 1: I get up and get you guys some goodies.

2508
02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:26,560
Speaker 6: I'll have to up.

2509
02:11:26,640 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 3: And I told you Mark Baker, our buddy Mark Baker

2510
02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:32,280
Speaker 3: wants to take you out to lunch. And I left

2511
02:11:32,320 --> 02:11:34,480
Speaker 3: your voicemail. We got to go out to lunch with

2512
02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:35,840
Speaker 3: Now I can't do it from twelve to three, but

2513
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:37,880
Speaker 3: we got to get together Pauly and go with Mark Baker.

2514
02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah we could.

2515
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:43,680
Speaker 6: We'll get together one of these get out there and

2516
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:44,200
Speaker 6: do something.

2517
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:45,080
Speaker 1: Paully. Did you get Hey?

2518
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:45,840
Speaker 3: Did you get a TV?

2519
02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:46,080
Speaker 1: At?

2520
02:11:46,120 --> 02:11:47,280
Speaker 3: Do we still need to get your TV?

2521
02:11:48,920 --> 02:11:51,720
Speaker 11: I'll get when I'm trying to move where I'm at.

2522
02:11:52,400 --> 02:11:55,480
Speaker 11: So I'm up by Timpton Girl School and I might

2523
02:11:55,560 --> 02:12:01,040
Speaker 11: get down and uh, rod replan On can't even talk

2524
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:03,560
Speaker 11: forty sixth Street. I know a guy who lives down

2525
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:06,440
Speaker 11: there and it's a no apartments.

2526
02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:07,640
Speaker 6: I got to call a guy on.

2527
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:13,480
Speaker 11: Down on Meridian, but anyway find out about those are

2528
02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:14,480
Speaker 11: a carriage house.

2529
02:12:14,600 --> 02:12:16,560
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna get that together.

2530
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:19,120
Speaker 11: And because I'm kind of far from Broad Ripple.

2531
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:22,160
Speaker 3: Now, all right, well, Paula, here's the thing. So you

2532
02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:23,400
Speaker 3: got to get a hold of me. You have my

2533
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:25,520
Speaker 3: number obviously, or I will call you. We're gonna go

2534
02:12:25,520 --> 02:12:27,040
Speaker 3: out to lunch with Mark. Then we'll get your TV

2535
02:12:27,160 --> 02:12:29,400
Speaker 3: and we'll get you squared away. But I'm gonna mark

2536
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:32,120
Speaker 3: it down now, Paully, says Anthony richardson Starter Week one.

2537
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:36,920
Speaker 11: Right right right, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, send me

2538
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:39,560
Speaker 11: your number at let me know if I get a

2539
02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:43,280
Speaker 11: hold of this one girl. If you think of going out,

2540
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:46,840
Speaker 11: if you're thinking of going to see because I say you,

2541
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:49,520
Speaker 11: if you're thinking of going to see McCartney or anything.

2542
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:52,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to see McCartney in Denver, Paul, Actually I'm

2543
02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:56,280
Speaker 3: going October eleventh, and appreciate the call. Paul It paully'

2544
02:12:56,280 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 3: is my man. Paul Frere going to see McCartney October

2545
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:02,360
Speaker 3: eleventh in Denver, Colorado. Jamb just got here and is

2546
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 3: wearing the most fabulous shirt of all time. I think

2547
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:07,320
Speaker 3: I told you you know my story about when I

2548
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:09,560
Speaker 3: wore Bucko Bruce shirt and several people came up to me.

2549
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:11,920
Speaker 3: It was some sort of subtle meeting fifteen years ago

2550
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:14,640
Speaker 3: in the airport. But nonetheless, big show lined up.

2551
02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah big Hey, by the way, my daughter is going

2552
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:20,760
Speaker 2: to des Moines to see Yeah, that's awesome. Two tickets

2553
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:23,960
Speaker 2: to des Moines. I believe that Tuesday of she had

2554
02:13:24,040 --> 02:13:27,320
Speaker 2: three dates she could go during the Center Girl fall

2555
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:29,040
Speaker 2: break and that was the first one.

2556
02:13:29,200 --> 02:13:31,800
Speaker 3: That's awesome, jess mo Winus as I call it. So

2557
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:34,120
Speaker 3: that's actually Des Moines's kind of a cool little downtown

2558
02:13:34,240 --> 02:13:36,839
Speaker 3: den Moye. It's kind of weird that he's going.

2559
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:37,320
Speaker 1: To des Moines.

2560
02:13:37,480 --> 02:13:40,200
Speaker 3: Kind of is, isn't it. Yeah, he's not playing.

2561
02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:44,160
Speaker 2: Here right now, Columbus des Moines, Minneapolis, Denver's where you

2562
02:13:44,240 --> 02:13:47,160
Speaker 2: got the tickets. So that is all weird. So how

2563
02:13:47,200 --> 02:13:48,200
Speaker 2: hot was it up there today?

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02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:50,600
Speaker 3: Jeff fun I actually was not there today because we

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02:13:50,760 --> 02:13:54,840
Speaker 3: ended up Jonathan Taylor was calling in. So the morning show, guys,

2566
02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:57,360
Speaker 3: you're going to have Tyler Warren on tomorrow. Yeah, we

2567
02:13:57,520 --> 02:13:59,560
Speaker 3: had Taylor on today, and so it was a result.

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02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:02,560
Speaker 3: Logistically speaking, I was actually in here, but my understanding,

2569
02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:03,560
Speaker 3: you just came in from outside.

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02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:04,040
Speaker 1: How bad is it?

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02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:05,400
Speaker 3: How bad is that?

2572
02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:06,640
Speaker 2: It's hot out?

2573
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:07,400
Speaker 3: It's great?

2574
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:11,600
Speaker 2: I mowed a little bit, isn't it great? Love it shirt?

2575
02:14:11,680 --> 02:14:14,800
Speaker 2: Let's moe man? I love a good sweet shirtless mo.

2576
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:16,560
Speaker 2: I got to be up there Thursday though. It's going

2577
02:14:16,640 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 2: to be much cooler, I think.

2578
02:14:17,840 --> 02:14:20,400
Speaker 3: And it's supposed to rain tomorrow, tonight or tomorrow and

2579
02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:21,000
Speaker 3: cool things off.

2580
02:14:21,080 --> 02:14:22,880
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, let's guess who I'm going to get?

2581
02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:23,840
Speaker 1: Who do you think?

2582
02:14:24,280 --> 02:14:26,200
Speaker 2: Who am I going to get on the show Thursday?

2583
02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:28,560
Speaker 3: That's a good sire.

2584
02:14:28,640 --> 02:14:30,320
Speaker 2: Frankly, if it were a fever, I wouldn't get a

2585
02:14:30,360 --> 02:14:33,200
Speaker 2: call back. But who I'm going to get from the Colts?

2586
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:33,640
Speaker 1: Hold on?

2587
02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:37,120
Speaker 3: Let me let me get a call back from the fever.

2588
02:14:37,880 --> 02:14:39,160
Speaker 3: Let me name an entity and you tell me if

2589
02:14:39,160 --> 02:14:42,600
Speaker 3: you get a call back, you ready fever? Fever never?

2590
02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:47,600
Speaker 2: Pacers only if I call Chad Yukanon himself or Ryan Carr.

2591
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:49,280
Speaker 3: Okay, Indy Car.

2592
02:14:51,440 --> 02:14:53,800
Speaker 2: Only if I call at the right time for them

2593
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:58,960
Speaker 2: to pick up the phone. NFL, the Colts will, Yeah,

2594
02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:04,240
Speaker 2: the Colts abs a little NASCAR only Joey Logano calls in.

2595
02:15:04,640 --> 02:15:05,880
Speaker 3: Okay, So is it just me?

2596
02:15:06,440 --> 02:15:08,240
Speaker 2: Is that what happens isn't me? They just don't want

2597
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:08,800
Speaker 2: to come along with me.

2598
02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:12,320
Speaker 3: Well, Matt Painter, Matt Painter, I can call him Mike Woodson.

2599
02:15:12,440 --> 02:15:13,120
Speaker 2: Now we'll say this.

2600
02:15:13,280 --> 02:15:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Purdue.

2601
02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:17,560
Speaker 2: You guys struggle with Purdue other than me with Painter?

2602
02:15:17,680 --> 02:15:17,840
Speaker 1: Right?

2603
02:15:17,960 --> 02:15:19,560
Speaker 2: Is that true? Is Purdue tough?

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02:15:20,920 --> 02:15:22,600
Speaker 3: Good luck with I've always had good luck with Purdue.

2605
02:15:23,600 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 3: That's the key.

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02:15:24,200 --> 02:15:24,720
Speaker 2: That is the key.

2607
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:25,400
Speaker 3: You know this too.

2608
02:15:25,480 --> 02:15:27,400
Speaker 2: The key is to just hopefully have.

2609
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:29,880
Speaker 3: Has anybody talked to the new India basketball coach?

2610
02:15:32,120 --> 02:15:32,160
Speaker 11: No?

2611
02:15:32,280 --> 02:15:32,400
Speaker 1: One?

2612
02:15:33,640 --> 02:15:35,960
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to get Mendoza on. I've been trying

2613
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:37,600
Speaker 2: to do that for two weeks. I'm kind of waiting

2614
02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:42,720
Speaker 2: on that deal. All we all get really high in Mighty,

2615
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:44,920
Speaker 2: don't we. We all get high and mighty, and hey,

2616
02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:46,920
Speaker 2: you know, we've got a lot of stuff going on,

2617
02:15:47,120 --> 02:15:49,480
Speaker 2: and then when crap hits the fan and we're not

2618
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:52,480
Speaker 2: very good, right, you know, we're.

2619
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:55,240
Speaker 3: Trying to call me. What is on the Big Show today?

2620
02:15:55,320 --> 02:15:55,480
Speaker 1: John?

2621
02:15:55,600 --> 02:15:58,560
Speaker 2: The Big Show Today? We got Greg who is back

2622
02:15:58,600 --> 02:16:02,600
Speaker 2: from Iceland finally, so we'll talk. It's weird, right because

2623
02:16:02,680 --> 02:16:06,200
Speaker 2: high school basically gets back into action this week, so

2624
02:16:06,320 --> 02:16:06,920
Speaker 2: we're not too far.

2625
02:16:07,160 --> 02:16:09,960
Speaker 3: Feels like the summer July still, you know what I mean.

2626
02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Joey Logano diad call Felix did not. I

2627
02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:18,600
Speaker 2: saw that Felix was busy, and then I was told

2628
02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:21,840
Speaker 2: by Felix's people that maybe if I'd give them more time,

2629
02:16:22,760 --> 02:16:26,320
Speaker 2: Felix should run to the payphone to answer it if

2630
02:16:26,360 --> 02:16:27,560
Speaker 2: one of our shows calls him.

2631
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:29,280
Speaker 3: Felix Roseen Quest, you're talking about it.

2632
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:30,720
Speaker 2: I like him a great deal, and then you should

2633
02:16:30,720 --> 02:16:32,280
Speaker 2: get on a step stool and reach up and grab

2634
02:16:32,360 --> 02:16:33,000
Speaker 2: the phone and talk.

2635
02:16:36,879 --> 02:16:38,800
Speaker 3: And he's from Sweden, so doesn't matter if it's two

2636
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:39,880
Speaker 3: o'clock in the Still.

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02:16:40,800 --> 02:16:42,920
Speaker 2: I love him too, But Dan, you got to have

2638
02:16:43,000 --> 02:16:43,840
Speaker 2: better people around you.

2639
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:44,280
Speaker 1: All right.

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02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:46,680
Speaker 3: John's up next with this Buckop Bruce shirt. We'll be

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Speaker 3: back with you noon tomorrow. Thanks for listening to Quarrying Company.