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Speaker 1: Casey. It is the story that has rocked the State House,

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Speaker 1: and it is this allegation that artificial intelligence was made

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Speaker 1: and then shared in some capacity inside the Lieutenant Governor's

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Speaker 1: off his artificial intelligence pornography of a state Reps wife.

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Speaker 1: We've covered it at link the last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: We had Tom Lobiancle who broke the story on yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and now the state Reps whose wife is allegedly at

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Speaker 1: the center of this, has come out and commented on it.

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Speaker 1: His name is Craig Haggard. Indie Star had a big

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Speaker 1: story on this today that he was featured in and

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Speaker 1: Craig Haggard State Rep represents part of Johnson County, part

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Speaker 1: of Hendricks County, and he now joins us on the

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Speaker 1: WIBC hotline to get the latest on what's going on

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Speaker 1: with this. Craig Haggard, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I guess first to start up one,

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Speaker 1: how is your wife doing? Because she is the person

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Speaker 1: like obviously your name's in this, it's the Lieutenant Governor's office,

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Speaker 1: it's high ranking people in his office. It's all these

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Speaker 1: high profile people, but your wife is really allegedly the

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Speaker 1: victim here in this because she's the person who allegedly

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Speaker 1: this was done to How is she doing well?

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Speaker 2: And I think you're you know, you're correct. It's not

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Speaker 2: embarrassed and her doesn't know what to think. I mean

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Speaker 2: and what happened or what's reported to happen is alleged,

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Speaker 2: but what's not alleged is that she is a victim

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Speaker 2: in this and that's that's why. Unlike other times when

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Speaker 2: people say stuff about me or other politicians, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: that's our job. But I'm here as a husband and

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the bottom of this, a

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Speaker 2: other people. This is a serious allegation, a serious crime.

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Speaker 1: How did you become aware that this video is too

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Speaker 2: I was actually driving with my family on Saturday and

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Speaker 2: I got a call from Tom Lobianco and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: he was doing a story and it involved my wife

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Speaker 2: that's the first I heard of this.

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Speaker 3: Did you speak with Tom about it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I started pressing him with questions and

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Speaker 2: you know who said this? Who said that? Who did this?

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Speaker 2: Have you seen this video? I was just I was confused.

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Speaker 2: My wife was sitting next to me, going what is

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Speaker 2: trying to get more information. I think, like everybody else,

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Speaker 2: I'm just as much much in the dark about this

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Speaker 1: Craig Haggard is our guest. He's a state rapp rep

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Speaker 1: represents part of Hendricks County Johnson County. His wife is

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Speaker 1: at the center of these allegations that the Lieutenant Governor's office,

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Speaker 1: people in the Lieutenant Governor's office were sharing artificial intelligence pornography.

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Speaker 1: I think the other part of this, Craig, that is

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Speaker 2: Right, she was singing and she I think this was

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Speaker 2: the third year. There's an event called Who's Your Idol?

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Speaker 2: And it's a charity event for Mental Health America. It's

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Speaker 1: I guess have you Have you talked to the House

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Speaker 2: Well, definitely, Speaker Houston reached out to me, and it

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Speaker 2: We need to let everybody know in a transparent, independent

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Speaker 2: fake AI is a national issue. We've seen stories where

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Speaker 3: Representative Craig Haggard is joining us. It's being reported that

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Speaker 2: I have spoken with him about that, and they wanted

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Speaker 2: to know the same thing question you're asking me, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Craig Haggard, as you said our guest Casey, he's the

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Speaker 1: with the Lieutenant governor, made a very definitive statement or

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Speaker 2: Has reached out. I've talked to him a couple of times,

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Speaker 2: Told me they're investigating, they want to get the bottom

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Speaker 2: We don't tolerate this. I mean, people already don't like

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Speaker 3: I'm curious after you've been experiencing this, will it guide

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Speaker 2: I think all of our platforms in some in some

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Speaker 1: We'll get j ottered with this. Has it been hard

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Speaker 1: All right, Graig, Yeah, keep us posted, and obviously tell

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Speaker 2: All right, care, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's KENDELLN. Casey on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the lesson should be if you tell somebody

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the fund's over, especially now that Sophie Cunningham got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the like, I mean again, you can chuckle

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Speaker 1: give them your money, don't you know, don't let if

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Speaker 3: I saw somebody saying that they thought it was being

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Speaker 1: What do you think they're accidentally throwing the thing on

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Speaker 3: Nope, like the WNBA oh for publicity? Correct?

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Speaker 1: What would that say about them?

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Speaker 1: So the theory is the fixes in these are hired. Gut,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have a lot of faith in the

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Speaker 1: Nobody's watching the game. It wasn't like people were glued

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Speaker 1: everybody's seeing it. Yes, but that doesn't help you with

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Speaker 1: You think sponsors like, hey, that's the league where they

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Speaker 1: You got admit that. That's pretty impressive. I got a

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Speaker 3: So Sophie Cunningham, she kind of jumped back and was

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Speaker 1: By the way, Brian in the YouTube chats, is the

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Speaker 1: Okay, why don't we do this because I'm glad you

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: This is what you chose to come back in with, Carl,

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Speaker 3: This was Howard Stern's theme song The Night.

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Speaker 1: Oh in the nineties when Pete all right, so producer,

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Speaker 5: Well, I actually went into TV because of Howard Stern.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was working in LA and nobody knew about

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Speaker 1: What did you do? We'll get down because a lot

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Speaker 5: All, I worked in their video library and we would

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Speaker 1: Sounds dreadfully painful.

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Speaker 5: Carl and one of the things I got to do

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Speaker 1: That was my Well that is pretty cool, right. I

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Speaker 3: Well no, they said that they're going to offer him

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Speaker 1: you know, you know this industry, you studied the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: What's say you, Well, it's it's not worth what he's

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Speaker 5: doing at Serrious XM because like, why would I pay

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Speaker 5: for radio when I can get it for free.

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Speaker 1: That's always been the argument, isn't it is? Because remember

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Speaker 1: it's been twenty years ago that Stern went.

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Speaker 5: To two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: So the argument was like, oh my gosh, now he'll

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Speaker 1: be able to say all the words that you know

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Speaker 1: he couldn't say before, do all this, and it's like

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Speaker 1: part of the charm as a teenager growing up listening

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Speaker 1: to Howard Stern, because let's face it, he doesn't he

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Speaker 1: kind of cater to at a like young dudes.

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Speaker 5: Is it that he basically raised me Rob? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: when I was sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Young And people will forget that. Howard Stern, for a

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Speaker 1: very brief period of time, was on Indianapolis airwaves on

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Speaker 1: on this frequency. Yeah, it was ninety three one when

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Speaker 1: it was the Buzzard, and he made a bit that

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Speaker 1: was a huge hooplaw that he was coming in to

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Speaker 1: compete with Bob and Tom. He had said when I

458
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Speaker 1: beat them in the ratings, I'm gonna throw a parade,

459
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Speaker 1: and he got smoked. I mean he it was a

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Speaker 1: dumpster fire because his show just doesn't translate.

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Speaker 3: Didn't resonate with the listeners.

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Speaker 1: To the Midwest. It's just not a midwet Bob and

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Speaker 1: Tom were great because they were funny, they were talented.

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Speaker 1: They guys like Jay Baker and all those guys or

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Speaker 1: Mark Patrick around them. But it was Midwest humor. It

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Speaker 1: was Midwest stuff that people could relate to, and he

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Speaker 1: came in with this coast stuff and people were just like,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of good. But the point of all this

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Speaker 1: was the idea of listening to him as a young

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Speaker 1: dude was he shouldn't be saying that he's got to

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Speaker 1: get in big trouble. You can't do that in public airroys.

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Speaker 1: And once he went to satellite, We're gonna do whatever

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Speaker 1: he wanted, it was like, Oh, it's just some old guys.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have to tiptoe around the language.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so part of the fun was, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 5: I can't believe he said that.

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Speaker 1: Right, But if you're not governed by any there's no

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Speaker 1: fcc him pushing the boundaries as a young guy, you

479
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Speaker 1: were like, I want to I want to be that

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Speaker 1: guy that pushes the boundaries and then if there's no boundaries.

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Speaker 5: He was literally the super were alpha male on the radio.

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Speaker 5: He was the one that brought in the women told

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Speaker 5: off the man. He was the guy that got away

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Speaker 5: with stuff, and he fizzled out in his old age.

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Speaker 1: This sounds ridiculous to say, but I say all sorts

486
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Speaker 1: of things about my life that are ridiculous. The movie

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Speaker 1: what year did Private Parts come out?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 5: Nineteen ninety six, ninety seven.

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Speaker 3: March seventh, nineteen ninety seven, Oh you know, well, yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's on the TI is on the tippy or did

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Speaker 1: you have to look it up?

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Speaker 3: Well, you and I were texting about it, likest. Oh,

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Speaker 3: so you got that and I looked it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so nineteen ninety seven I would have been

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Speaker 1: in the seventh grade. And I have said for a

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Speaker 1: long time that my dream since I was a little

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Speaker 1: kid was to be on the radio and be on

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Speaker 1: this radio station and do the exact thing I'm doing now.

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Speaker 1: I no offense casey my dream. I was doing it

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Speaker 1: by myself. But you've can de fine addition to the

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Speaker 1: to the program. But like that movie, and I remember

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Speaker 1: seeing it for the first time on a channel that

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Speaker 1: we weren't supposed to get, and it would have been

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Speaker 1: after my parents, Yeah, were sleep and watching that movie.

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Speaker 1: And that movie changed my life. Like seeing that and

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Speaker 1: I know now, like when you're in the seventh grade,

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Speaker 1: you don't know what's bullcrap and what's not. You think

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Speaker 1: it's all real. You thought pig vomit was the real

510
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Speaker 1: guy that Paul Giamix. But you see there like I

511
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Speaker 1: want to be that. Like that movie changed changed my life.

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Speaker 1: What happened to Howard Stern? He completely sold out.

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Speaker 5: And it was a puzzle because when Donald Trump ran

514
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Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen, he was like coming out against Donald.

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Speaker 5: Donald was a frequent guest on his show because Donald

516
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Speaker 5: just said what was on his mind, just like Howard

517
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Speaker 5: was it the need to be liked. He when he

518
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Speaker 5: divorced his wife, that was the end of the show.

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Speaker 5: Then he became Hollywood and he married an actress.

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Speaker 3: Part of that was because the shocking things that he

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Speaker 3: would say and the women that he would have on

522
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Speaker 3: the show. But you knew he's actually a married guy.

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Speaker 3: He's going home to his wife and his kids, and

524
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Speaker 3: you were kind of in on that, right this Carls

525
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Speaker 3: right the second that that ended, that whole charade fell apart.

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Speaker 5: He was no longer the regular guy. He was the

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Speaker 5: guy that got divorced and married. You know, a trophy

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Speaker 5: was and.

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Speaker 1: He probably was making because then the whole other thing

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Speaker 1: is like it's out of sight, out of mind. Money

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Speaker 1: can give you comfort, but so many people don't have

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Speaker 1: satellite radio, or if you do have satellite radio, there's

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Speaker 1: so much that you can listen to. He he was well, he.

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Speaker 3: Was supposed to be the big talent to make you

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Speaker 3: want serious XM. I mean they paid him a groundbreaking

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Speaker 3: five hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: How much money you think Do you think they lost

538
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Speaker 1: money on that deal? Do you think people enough people

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Speaker 1: got satellite radio because Howard beginning? Yeah? But did it

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Speaker 1: last There was only serious and.

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Speaker 5: ExM and because of Howard they merged.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. So the thing that I like, he

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Speaker 1: interviewed Biden last year Karmala or I think he did.

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Speaker 1: He did Biden was still running. He talked while Biden

545
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Speaker 1: sat there, right that he did that. He did interview Kamala,

546
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Speaker 1: And it's like, what happened to you? And now you're

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Speaker 1: just some old, angry leftist guy who clearly has some

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Speaker 1: sort of internal misery. And it was just like, it's

549
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Speaker 1: so it's so awful to watch the heroes of your

550
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Speaker 1: youth hobble away and me, Howard Stern is just some

551
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Speaker 1: angry guy who hobbled into the sunset.

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Speaker 3: So his time was up a while ago. He should

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Speaker 3: have ended it sooner and gone out on top.

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Speaker 1: You're the super fan, Carl, I think you're. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he just spared from my life. You know, twenty years

556
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Speaker 1: ago he went to satellite radio. Career is because of

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern.

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Speaker 5: I got the job at E because I knew the

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Speaker 5: subject and they said you need to work for us.

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Speaker 1: So like when you were younger, you just sat around

561
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Speaker 1: and listened to Stern every day.

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Speaker 5: I was in boarding school in New Jersey and I

563
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Speaker 5: picked him up out of Philadelphia's.

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Speaker 3: When was the last time you listened to a show?

565
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Speaker 5: When I left LA in twenty fourteen, and I'm like, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Satellite radio anymore. Yeah, Carl, thank you, thank you, And

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Speaker 3: you know what, We're gonna have Hammer joining us next.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of inappropriate people on the radio.

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Speaker 3: It's Kendally Casey on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Jason Hammer, co host of the number one rated Hammer

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Speaker 1: in Nigel afternoon program, The co host, the better Host,

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Speaker 1: the best host, better man is now. Hello, Hello, great.

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Speaker 6: Interview you did with the State Rep whose wife is

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Speaker 6: at the center of this.

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Speaker 1: Deep fake controversy.

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Speaker 6: Great interview, and like, I hate this story so much

577
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Speaker 6: because I do some AI stuff, But man, it's supposed

578
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 6: to be fun. Like the AI thing is supposed to

579
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Speaker 6: make the work day easier, help out with school, and screw.

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Speaker 1: With your buddies.

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Speaker 6: Now, like I'm designed to like create portographic blackmail.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, didn't you do one of Nigel escaping the cops

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Speaker 1: with Joe Hogg sets?

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Speaker 6: If you go to the hammer in Nigel Show, Facebook

585
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Speaker 6: and Twitter, you will see AI Nigel running from the

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Speaker 6: impd after rating the liquor cabinet of Joe hawkson.

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Speaker 1: And you're like, even anything that's remotely controversial, which you

588
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Speaker 1: knew I wasn't gonna care, but you were like, cool,

589
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Speaker 1: if I do an AF you get hit in the face,

590
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Speaker 1: And I was like, right, you knew I wasn't gonna care,

591
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Speaker 1: but you still you asked, I.

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Speaker 6: Don't want somebody to get motivated to actually punch you

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Speaker 6: in the.

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Speaker 1: Fact they haven't done it by now.

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Speaker 6: So I think what we need to do to bring

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Speaker 6: some fun back to this gross story about AI is

597
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Speaker 6: have a moment of clarity featuring AI Rob Kendall.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my name is Rob Kendall, and I love Brownsburg.

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Speaker 1: But I love Diego Morales even more. I really do.

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Speaker 1: I also love Todd Young, and I wish Diego and

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Speaker 1: Todd were my parents so I can spend more time

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Speaker 1: with him. I love him. It's also worth noting that

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Speaker 1: I hate when Casey talks. It takes time away from

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Speaker 1: me talking about my man crushes on Diego and Todd,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes even on my Quebec with I find myself

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Speaker 1: admiring his bright smile in here. Seriously, there's nothing Diego,

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Speaker 1: Todd and Micah can do wrong in my book. By

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Speaker 1: the way, my book is a horrible book and it's

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Speaker 1: available in Brownsburg. Now, if you will excuse me, I

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Speaker 1: have to go back to talking about Brownsburg. Pay Cheryl,

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Speaker 1: put down your smoke and pour me a beer. Daddy's

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Speaker 1: coming home to Brownsburg and he's ready for Applebee's Happy Hour. AI,

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Speaker 1: Rob Kendall out, that's good stuff. AI, Rob Kendall's that's

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Speaker 1: well done. But yes, and it's like the weirdest story

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Speaker 1: ever because the you know, Micah supporters whatever, like it's

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Speaker 1: not true, lobbyonc's making it up, and it's like Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe he is, maybe he hasn't wrong. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: horrible sources. What a weird thing for anyone to make

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Speaker 1: up though, but people do weird things.

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Speaker 6: Why are green dongs being thrown out at the WNBA games?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Did you get a bet in on that? Because

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Speaker 1: you could? We saw websites where allegedly you could bet

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Speaker 1: on what the color of the device in question was

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Speaker 1: going to be.

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Speaker 6: I did not bet, but I you know me, I

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Speaker 6: hate betting favorites. And the favorite was the color that

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Speaker 6: was thrown out there? Why was green the favorite? Is

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Speaker 6: there a reason?

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Speaker 1: It's just been the one that's the trout there?

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Speaker 6: It's the trend, right, Apparently there's a big market for

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Speaker 6: green dongs being thrown out.

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Speaker 3: That nicely on camera WNBA games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, like, okay, the league's a joke.

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Speaker 1: We we kind of accepted that, and there's different ways

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Speaker 1: you can profess that you can't be throwing stuff and

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Speaker 1: no players And how did this individual sneak it? In?

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Speaker 1: Great question?

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Speaker 6: Did it come in the old prison wallet or was

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Speaker 6: there another way that this thing was uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: brought into the arena.

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Speaker 1: And there We talked about it earlier. We was supposedly

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Speaker 1: a second one.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't thrown.

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Speaker 6: There wasn't thrown at a Washington Mystics game, Like somebody

645
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Speaker 6: threw it, but it didn't make it to the court.

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Speaker 1: They had a weeny arm.

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Speaker 6: It was like a cubbed reliever, so they chucked it down,

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Speaker 6: but you know, it landed next to a kid or something, which,

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Speaker 6: come on, what are you doing here? But I told

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Speaker 6: you guys, like during the commercial break here, one of

651
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Speaker 6: these days, you guys are gonna be doing your show.

652
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 6: You're gonna be having some really important conversation, you know,

653
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Speaker 6: solving all the political drama in Indie. And I almost

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Speaker 6: sneak from one of these side doors and just chuck

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Speaker 6: a green dildo in here.

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Speaker 1: One day it's hit Casey, We've got another. We got

657
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Speaker 1: another one.

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Speaker 3: It's hit Casey. The fund's over you.

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Speaker 1: You would have to go buy one that humors me,

660
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: the idea you would. I'd be like flounder ordering the marbles.

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Speaker 1: I'm like one green please, Okay, So have you you guys?

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Speaker 1: You guys went to the State Fair the other day.

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Speaker 1: Ye did our show there. I couldn't talk, no, but

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Speaker 1: you had a good time. And obviously in this video

665
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: came out about the State Fair. It seems like the

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Speaker 1: problems they've had before is the Marion County Fair. I've

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Speaker 1: never I don't remember the State Fair having any sort

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Speaker 1: of incident like this. But now they've done this course

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Speaker 1: correction where if you're twenty four and you have a kid,

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00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: you got to be accompanied by an adult too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how bad things have gotten.

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Speaker 6: Like as ridiculous as that may sound, there has to

673
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Speaker 6: be a reason for it. Like when you go to

674
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Speaker 6: eat a buffalo wild wings downtown. And I found this

675
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Speaker 6: out like a year ago because I dropped Christopher off.

676
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 6: Chris is twenty years old. Jacob at the time was

677
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Speaker 6: I think sixteen, and they were gonna get wings before

678
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 6: a Pacers game or something. You have to be companied

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00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 6: with somebody twenty one and over to eat at that

680
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 6: restaurant after like six pm. You have to get a

681
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 6: code to use the bathroom there. And I asked why,

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00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 6: because a portion of their sales or alcohol, well local

683
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 6: youth wink wink would go in there, create a ruckus,

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00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 6: and some of the drug addicts would go into the

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Speaker 6: bathroom in od.

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Speaker 3: So let me get this right. You can go fight

687
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: for your country you can buy an alcoholic beverage, you

688
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: can buy cigarettes, but if you can't go to the

689
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Speaker 3: state heir unless you're twenty five.

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Speaker 1: And the broader thing is is when is do we

691
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Speaker 1: as a society just stand up and say enough is enough?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: I don't blame the fair for this. No, it's ridiculous

694
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Speaker 6: that it has to be this way. This is what

695
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 6: we talk about with Indianapolis. I love Indianapolis. It's broken

696
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 6: right now. Politically, socially it's broken. But man, when this

697
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 6: place is right, I love it. It takes me back to

698
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 6: my childhood. I think it's one of the best convention

699
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 6: cities in America. But my god, it's ridiculous. The leaps

700
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Speaker 6: and bounds you have to go to to avoid some

701
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 6: of the ridiculous crap.

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00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Did you find this interesting because we talked about this

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00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: last hour our boy Steven from Indie Reporter at Indie

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Speaker 1: Underscore Reporter Underscore, Well, Fox fifty nine was ticked off.

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00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: Well that's what I'm saying that there were like mainstream

706
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: news people who were fighting with him over this, and

707
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 1: he's like, dude, I got the video from this account

708
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: right here. I'm pointing out these things that appear to

709
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: be the State Fair. Here's the video, And there were

710
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: people who were mad at him about this. It's like,

711
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: what are you fighting with him about?

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Speaker 6: Like, I got no beef with Fox fifty nine. I

713
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 6: got a pretty good relationship with those folks.

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Speaker 1: But that seemed like a very odd fight, and they

715
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: were pretty adamant too. Well.

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Speaker 3: I understand that they want to confirm that it's, you know,

717
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: legit and it is the Indiana State Fair, but I

718
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: think you also have to take into account that you're

719
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: talking about an independent journalist who is threatening their existence,

720
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Speaker 3: their livelihod.

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Speaker 6: But you know, a competition exists, And the way that

722
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 6: they were reacting with that, you would have thought he

723
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 6: was saying it happened in the Fox parking lot. Well,

724
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 6: that's just weird that that's the fight, Like they really

725
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: chose to have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and wheat after tweet yeah, and he kept saying like, Okay,

727
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: here's this point that appears to be the state Fair.

728
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: Here's this point to be appears to be the state Fair.

729
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Well so and so contacted the state police and they

730
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: couldn't confirm, but look at the place, like we're ed Steven,

731
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: wrong guy to mess with, Like started breaking it down

732
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: like this Zuppruder film. Right. Look here it all is,

733
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: and it just it grew him. What is interesting about

734
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: that is it grew him by literally thousands of followers

735
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: that interaction. I just found it fascinating that mainstream media

736
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: people in the city were fighting with the citizen journalists

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00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: over a video about the state about something that literally

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Speaker 1: happened to the State Fair.

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Speaker 6: Listen, don't let a lot of these idiots ruin your life, right,

740
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 6: be cautious. If you're going somewhere that you feel like, man,

741
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 6: this is a little dicey for me, don't go. But

742
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 6: look the State Fair, man, I've been taking my kids.

743
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: There for years.

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00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 6: They work really hard to make it a great atmosphere

745
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 6: and everything.

746
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Speaker 1: Don't let a couple morons.

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Speaker 6: That probably have had dads skip out on them when

748
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 6: they were six years old ruin your time.

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Speaker 1: I thought they had a parental accompany thing last year,

750
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Speaker 1: didn't they.

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00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 6: I thought, No, there was supposed to be a curfew

752
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 6: in Indy, and you see how that's going. There's a

753
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 6: curfew now, there's no penalties for it, and we will

754
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 6: then call the non existent parents.

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Speaker 1: But then I promise you you're going to get justice Hey,

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00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: what are you? What are you doing this afternoon on

757
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: your program?

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00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 6: This afternoon, we got more tickets to give away to

759
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 6: Live Golf, Live Golf.

760
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: We got Rod Stewart tickets.

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00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 6: We're gonna play another round of Rod Stewart or Tony

762
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 6: Stewart and the tonas Tony Kennett will join us. We're

763
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 6: gonna laugh, We're gonna have some fun, probably have a

764
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 6: few shots along the way.

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Speaker 1: If somebody want to do something nice for me, they

766
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: could win those tickets to Live Golf and they could

767
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: take me with them. Oh, what a great idea.

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Speaker 3: Those are also available for purchase.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on. You know, if somebody

770
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: want to do something nice for me, what if we

771
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: did a contest where they have to go with Bob

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00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: and we got to like videotapement and stream it the

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00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: whole way. Yeah, but then I gotta take a day

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00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: off work, and we know how this show just falls

775
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: apart if I'm not here.

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Speaker 3: Please listen to you Nigel in today.

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00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: Yeah he's here, Okay, Yeah, Jason Hammer, thank you.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three

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Speaker 3: w IBC.

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Speaker 4: Searching searching for shelter again. Again, little some again Sweet

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Speaker 4: I found myself seeking shelter agains