1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So big arrests announced this hour related to gambling 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: in the National Basketball Association. Jason Hammer won half of 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: the Hammer and Nigel Show is here at sports. It's gambling, 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: that's you, buddy. What's going on? 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: This press conference was pretty wild because the information we learned, 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: it's not necessarily about the people involved, it's about the technology. 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: So the Trailblazers coach Chauncey Billups, so I think it's 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: a Hall of famer. Right, won a championship with the Pistons, 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: beat Iu in the tournament when he was with Colorado 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: back in the day. He's been arrested. Miami Heat player 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: Terry Rozier has been arrested, and former player Damon Jones 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: have been arrested with three guys. Now Rosier and Jones 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: are separate than Chauncey Billups. Billups is charged with being 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: part of these high stakes poker games funded by the 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: MOB where cheating is taking place. And the press conference 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: that just took place was amazing because they're breaking down 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: the technology used to cheat people in these high stakes 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: poker games. Oh wow, It's like something from like a 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: James Bond or Austin Powers movie special shufflers where they 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: can see what's going on. There were also devices where 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: you could read what's on the cards and things like that. 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: This is like a Sopranos episode, except it's foreign mafia people, 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: isn't it. 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: Well. 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: It's tied to several different mafia families. Now you've heard 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: of some of them. Some of them are Italian American 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: mafia families, the Gambino, the Case families. They're still around, 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: still around, still doing it. Eleven states are involved here, 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: thirty one total arrests now billups is with the mafia 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: and the cheating of these high stakes poker games. Terry 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 2: Rozier was, in essence point shaving. He was basically telling 32 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: all of your buddies to bet the under on my 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: props during the game, and he would figure out some 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: sort of way to either fake an injury or do something. 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: They had a system set up where the night before 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: he would tell somebody a certain phrase and that would 37 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: be their key to bet the under on a prop. 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: He's made a ton of This is what I can't 39 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: figure out about these NBA guys. He's made a ton 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: of money in his life playing basketball. 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: Why would he do this? 42 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: That's a great question, they can't help themselves. The FBI 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: said they recorded more than three thousand phone calls and 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: meetings with the targets of this investigation. People were wearing 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: wires like this is honestly like something you would see 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: from a movie. 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: And this is what's interesting is. 48 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: These things take time, right, and sometimes they start with 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: one thing and they end up with another thing because 50 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: they catch it looking into the first thing. So, just 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: because the perception is. 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: And it started with Rozier and ended up with Chauncey. 53 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot of times with criminal investigations, just 54 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 1: because the perception is nothing's happening doesn't mean nothing. 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: Because this took a long time. 56 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: Here are the bullet points of some of the technological 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: advances that were uncovered in this sting. X ray machines 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: built into poker tables to read face down cards, contact 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: lenses and glasses that read pre marked cards, secret cameras 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: and card trays, and special shuffling machines. 61 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is my gambling question to you. Because 62 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: you can go to a casino and you can play cards, 63 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: why would he he being Johncey Billups, do this. Why 64 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't he just go to like Michael Jordan was Alan 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: iverson those guys would go play in a casaine. 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: Since he was in on defrauding all these I got you. 67 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: He's in on the on the conw it's not the 68 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: game that they're going after. 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: H No, he was in on the con and. 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: They were bringing these people in thinking it was a 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: fair poker game. 72 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Ohm playing cards with Johncey Billups, Right, you guys playing cards? 73 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. If you remember at the beginning of Ocean's Eleven, 74 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: like they've got Brad Pitt's character, he's teaching celebrities to 75 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: play poker, and it's these big steaks, back room kind 76 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: of games, kind of what's going on here? 77 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: They had these big whales, So it was a. 78 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: Mix of Ocean's Eleven and Rounders, these back alley poker games. 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: But Teddy KGB and the mafia are funding these. 80 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: Oh man. 81 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: Oh so he's in big trouble right right now. I 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: don't care what's going on in your life. Maybe you're 83 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: having job trouble, maybe you're having woman trouble. Whatever the 84 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: case may be, you're doing better than Chauncey Billups. His 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: job right now is to figure out do I want 86 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: to go to federal prison or do I want to 87 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: rat out the mall right, those are his options right now, 88 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: and it's a. 89 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. 90 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: I think he's in the Hall of fame. He has 91 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: made a gajillion dollars. Who's a high profile NBA head coach? 92 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: Now was or I. 93 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Guess still maybe is why would you do this? Do 94 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: you need money that bad? And they said the investigation 95 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: is still ongoing. This is kind of what they found. 96 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: It was almost like a domino effect. 97 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: I think they were probably looking into the players for 98 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: point shaving prop shaving and once somebody is in custody 99 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: because if you remember, there was a Raptors player that 100 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: got in trouble for this, and it sounds like those 101 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: investigations overlapped. One person starts squealing to save themselves and 102 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: now it's the domino and let him to the Portland 103 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 2: Trail Blazer's head coach. 104 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: Wow, this has been there's some up from money to 105 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: get this going. 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: The technology is wild there. It's like something from a 107 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: Bond movie. 108 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: What are you doing this afternoon? 109 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: We'll have the latest on this and you are going 110 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: to come by and go off the rails. 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