1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nichel show. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 2: Are you Man? 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 3: Are you? 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: Are you find him? 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 4: Is Nigel chasing Hammer right over there with a very special. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 5: Guest on the hotline, Dan Bass Levy Radio Icon, damn 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 5: fine American and the man that coined the phrase arguments. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: How are you, sir, gentlemen? 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: How are you guys doing? 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: Man? We're doing really well. 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: And for somebody that may be listening for the first time, 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: here Dan tell us all about barguments. 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: First of all, welcome to the party. Second of all, 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: argument is what you would have with your friends family, 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: any guide of argument? The would you rathers mount rushmore? 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 2: What's the best? What's the greatest of all time? All 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: those kind of arguments you have at a barbecue with 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: your buddies wherever you guys all kinda gather around and 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: have some fun arguments. That's what this is. There's no 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: real answer, just fun. And if you guys are ready 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: for one, let me throw you guys one, shall we 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: get me? Let's do it, Let's go and tote miss 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: will tell you this one. What is a Christmas movie 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: that everyone loves but you hate? 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so a Christmas movie that everybody seems to dig. 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: But for one reason or the other, you can't stand it. 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: Dan get us. 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: Going the one that always every time I hear it, 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: see it and people make a reference to it. It's 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: cringeworthy because the worst Christmas movie of all time is 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: a Christmas story? 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: Oh what Ralphie and the Red Rider bb gun YEA A. 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: Boring, lame movie. It's terrible. 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: You'll shoot your eye oud, kid, Come on, you don't 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: like the leg lamp or you don't like it. 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: I will say there is there is a bit of 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: a caveat before I married my wife because she is 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: Christian and Catholic. I'm Jewish. So for a good chunk 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: of my life, all my friends were busy having fun 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: and partying, and all the Jewish people like myself were 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 2: left with Chinese food and one television station that ran 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: a Christmas story for twenty four hours. Let me tell 43 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: you that gets worse every time you watch. 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: Well that's how that's how that movie ends within a 45 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: Chinese restaurant. So exactly, so not only does it hit 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: with that, and we're hit with you or you're just like, 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 4: not only is this movie bad. 48 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: But they made the same bad decision we're making this 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: movie is awful. 50 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: On Twitter from Shooter McGavin. 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: Okay, he says the mom in a Christmas story is 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: an underrated villain because one she sends Randy to school 53 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: with zero arm mobility. Two encourages and to eat his 54 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: food like a pig at the dinner table, which has 55 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: to be problematic for a somewhat chunky child. Three isn't 56 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: happy when her husband wins a major award. Four snitches 57 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: on Flick and then tells his mom that he's the 58 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: blame for Ralphie using the word. She then goes on 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: to break the leg lamp on purpose and dumps out 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: the glue. 61 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: She is not. 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 6: She is a strong woman. 63 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: Clearly, after Ralphie bludgeons Scott Arcas he leaves him there 64 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: to bleed out, she just leaves him there. She then 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,279 Speaker 3: drops a bowling ball on her husband's privates with no apology, 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: and then makes Ralphie will put up that god awful 67 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: buddy suit first it was the first gift open to 68 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: make him wear it and ruin Christmas base. 69 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: The number one I've ever heard of where we blame 70 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: the mother for Eddie. 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 6: I'm so I so disagree on that, but we'll move on. 72 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: One more thing here on Christmas story, and Dan backed 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: me up here. If you're going to tell me that 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: die Hard is a Christmas movie, which I'm open to 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: the conversation, I can argue a Christmas story is an 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: action movie because it checks every box of something you 77 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: would consider an action movie. There's violence, there's guns, there's swearing, 78 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: there's electric sex, there's animal cruelty. 79 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it checks any bus. 80 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: But here's the deal, because I I it's a argument 81 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: of its own, and I think it's what actually is 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: the founding argument of this attire topic. The bit and 83 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: everything die Hard can be taking place on any time. 84 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: It just happened to be a Christmas setting that it 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: happened on, but it could happen at any time. A 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: Christmas story really is happening on Christmas. 87 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: But Danny soundtrack of die Hard features Christmas and hollis 88 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: by run DMC. 89 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be the study of it. 90 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: It's gotten merged way out on Easter July fourth, people 91 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: getting stuck in an office building by terrorists and an 92 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: undergovern for Cob going run a gate at any time 93 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: of the year. 94 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: But you can't make the joke of ho ho ho 95 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: now I've got a machine gun. 96 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: You can't do that on Arbor Day. Damn. 97 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: All right, let's move on, Allison, give us a Christmas 98 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: movie that everybody seems to love but you don't. 99 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 6: It's not that I hate it, but I feel like 100 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 6: it's a little dark. The Polar Express. 101 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: It's dark cool. 102 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 6: So obviously Tom Hanks, he plays like six characters. I'm 103 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 6: not underestimating his talents. 104 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: He's great. That aside. 105 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 6: Everything is from the beginning. The conductor is like yelling 106 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 6: at the child. 107 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: Well light to the north of cars. This is the 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: Polar Express. 109 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: You have a little moron Exactly when they. 110 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 6: Get on, one of the children loses their tickets. He 111 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 6: sends them to the back of the caboose. And then 112 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 6: when they get there he uh. I mean, it's just 113 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 6: complete darkness. And then at the very end all you 114 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 6: find out as well, if you can't hear the bell, 115 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 6: you don't believe in san anymore. 116 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: So Christmas magic is dead. What if you've got hearing loss? 117 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: What if you are part of the hearing and Page 118 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: don't explain that, No Santa for you apparently not. That sucks, 119 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: that's true. 120 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: And what we're what were ticket was digital on your Internet. 121 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: Now, what do you do right? 122 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: If you have your ticket on your Apple wallet? Does 123 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: Tom Hanks not let you on the Polar Express an 124 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: a hole? The conductor was an a hole in that movie, 125 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: for sure? 126 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: Agreed? Nudge mine again. 127 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: We're doing uh, we're naming Christmas movies that everyone loves 128 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: but you hate. 129 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: I hate ELF. 130 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: So over the top and fl you have are with 131 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: Will Ferrel? 132 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 4: Love Will Ferrell. I can't stand Elf. I don't understand 133 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: like he grew up with all the other l's. None 134 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: of the other Elves act like he does. Did he 135 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: not learn any hang from them? Me? 136 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: Just state a kid, Well, he was a stowaway, right, 137 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: That's how he was different, traumatized. 138 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: Look, and by the way, if for being honest with 139 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: each other. In this politically correct society, we don't want 140 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: men's in women's locker rooms. 141 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what. 142 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: You had in Elf when Will Ferrell was singing along 143 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: with Zoe Nationale and I'm not okay with that. I'm 144 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: not okay with men in women's locker rooms preeping him away. 145 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, hold on, it was like he was 146 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: getting changed next to her. 147 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: He was sitting on a stag. Well, I don't want 148 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: my daughter. 149 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: I don't want I don't want my daughter singing, you know, 150 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: duet with any sorted dude, childlike or not in a 151 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: locker room in the shower. 152 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: So Dan, based off your argument, I can come to 153 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: Casa da Levy. Wait till your wife gets in the shower, 154 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: walk into the bathroom and we can sing together. 155 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: And that's fine. 156 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: Wait good. First of all, First of all, I've had it, 157 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: and I will Chicago. I will got good if you 158 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: get make it in that shower without a gun in 159 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: your mouth. 160 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: The scene with Peter dinklic he is an angry little elf. 161 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: That was probably that's my favorite scene of the movie. 162 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: There are some great cameos in there. 163 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: There's Peter Dinglish, I love James Kahn, I'm a James 164 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: and any movie with big permanent. 165 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know what the actor's name is. He 166 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: is the manager at the retail at the Christmas store, right, okay, people, 167 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, am Santa's coming in down God here, I 168 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: know him. 169 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: I know him. 170 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 6: How do you love Anchorman but don't like else? That 171 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 6: makes no sense to me. 172 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: That's on Love, by the way. 173 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: Yes, that's it. Fase on Love. 174 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: I love everything he's in, So I'm gonna come to 175 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: the table with It's a Wonderful Life. 176 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: What is wrong with only one of. 177 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 4: Those beloved Christmas movies in the history of cinema? 178 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, nothing says you know, make the Yule Tide 179 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: gay like a depressing suicide movie. That's what we all 180 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: want to watch as we're trying to get in a 181 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: good mood. 182 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: At least just some redemption in it. 183 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 3: Like the whole town is just full of like ungrateful 184 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: losers who reap what they sew. Right, they deserve to 185 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: lose their money first of all if they trust it 186 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: with the no good, rotten moron that's running the bank 187 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: and loan now, and Bailey's family sucks. 188 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: Like George didn't want to run. 189 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: Like the bank and loan, but his family was so 190 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: bad at it he felt like, I'll give it a try. 191 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: And then the townspeople turned on him just because he 192 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: was trying. He's trying to bail out their incompetence, and 193 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: it led him to suicide. 194 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's drink some egg nog to that. 195 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: George Bailey spends the entire film compromising his happiness for 196 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: a town of ingrates can. 197 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: I get another clip here, Alison. 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: Oh shut up, you little brat. George Bailey's life and 199 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: it's a wonderful life. Nudge in many ways is like 200 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris's time as the Vice President. It's a bleak, 201 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: thoroughly depressing, tragic story of somebody who's never made it 202 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: to Europe. 203 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: But they settled down with. 204 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: The average neighborhood towny whose ambition and life's desires and 205 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: hopes and dreams are system systematically denied and trusted by 206 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: the small minded townies in the neighborhood. I'm telling you, 207 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: the whole thing's depressing. It sucks, Dan, it sucks. 208 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: I feel like if we would have actually asked Ebenezer 209 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: Scrooge what he thought was the worst Christmas all time, 210 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: I think we would have heard the exact day in 211 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: his mouth. 212 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: And to be honest, George settles for the woman in 213 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: that town, right, and like in that scene. 214 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 6: And the scene which is I'm done with this segment 215 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 6: continue where they have like. 216 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: The flashback of what the town would look like if 217 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: Potter ran it. It looks amazing, it looks like Vegas. 218 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: It looks so fun to be around. 219 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: And George wanted to look like something for pleasant Bill 220 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: that sucks. 221 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: You know what, maybe the word would have been better 222 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: off without George. Go ahead and make the jump. 223 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: Hey, yes, ladies and gentlemen. If you want to hear 224 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: more arguments that set off party family party fires like 225 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: this one, feel free to dell on my podcast. This 226 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: is what happens with a fun argument called argument. It's fantastic. 227 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: I know you're Jewish, but hey, Merry Christmas. 228 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: Dan, everybody I tell Ry Christmas too. Very Christmas to everybody. 229 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: Thanks so much you guys for let me have some pony. 230 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: You guys this here, let's keep it going. 231 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.