1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: This is the Kendall and Casey Show, ninety three, WYNBC. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: My name is Craig Collins, filling in a thrilled to 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: be with you. Tony Katz is coming up in about 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: an hour with Tony Katz today. He will be talking 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: about the latest in the Ukraine US meeting that took 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: place in Florida, and a hopeful end of that conflict, 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: that four year war between Russian Ukraine, a bunch of 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: other things. I'm sure he'll talk about too, but I 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: would stay tuned for that. I've mentioned it a little bit, 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: but I'm willing to say that I think Tony does 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: a better job with that topic than I do, probably 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: with a lot of topics than I do. Before I 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: get to more serious stuff, I was talking off air 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: with producer Kylon about the chat now I know on 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: Tony Show. I think he calls them kats kittens as 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: the people who are on the social media chats for 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: the live stream. Does do Kendall and Casey have a 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: nickname for their chat people. I think Kat's Kittens is fine. 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: I think it's funny. I think that Tony by love 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: that you said that the way he did, But I 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: don't know if the Kendall and KC group, if you 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: guys have a nickname, But you were telling me some 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: of the stuff people were saying in the chat about 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: our last topic. We were talking about a few different things, 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: one of them being how you know gas stations used 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: to pump your gas and actually they still do in 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: some places. New Jersey I think still has it by 28 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: and large, and Mexico still does it all the time. 29 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: What were people saying about that. 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: They were saying plenty. They were talking about the Texico 31 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: you can trust your card to the man that wears 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: the star. Yeah, and they were talking about how it 33 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: only took two dollars in gas for almost to fill 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: up a full tank in the late fifties and early sixties. 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: That sounds lovely. 36 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: Someone reminisced on when gas hit thirty five cents a 37 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: gallon there was panic in households. 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: So different now, very different world. 39 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: Well yeah, well, and I think when you used to 40 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: pull in to the gas station when they had the attendant, 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: like the person did everything, they checked the fluids, they 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: and this still happens in Mexico. I love watching it 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: pull in and the guy he'll do anything you want. 44 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I think he'll change your oil for you if you 45 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: pay him the extra to do that while you're sitting there. 46 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Although I think that's probably a service you got a request. 47 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: They don't do that just anytime you pull in, But 48 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, i'd like to see more of that. 49 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: I'd like to have more attendance to gas stations than 50 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, human service element, just because it's better than 51 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: having to get out and do it yourself. But because 52 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: of that, my wife is always very scared that she's 53 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: going to do it wrong because she grew up in 54 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: a place that doesn't do it at all, and every 55 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: time we go back to her country, they still don't 56 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: do it. Like I'm getting out of the car when 57 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: we pull into the gas station and people are looking 58 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: at me like I'm insane, Like what are you doing? 59 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: There's somebody who was a job that does this. Was 60 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: there another topic that they were weighing in on the 61 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: chat too? Was there something else you wanted to pass on? 62 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: Was it just that we had talked about how kids 63 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: can't read clocks these days, yes, and how teachers should 64 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: take the time to be able to teach those and 65 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: even reading cursive writing and reading cursive is not hought 66 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: now in the school. 67 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: No, it's not. 68 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: Although there is a mom that I follow on social 69 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: media and she started teaching her kid cursive, and the 70 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: way she got the kid to even be interested in 71 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: it was teaching it as a code language that not 72 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: any of your other Oh you write language, yes exactly. 73 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, gotcha. That's interesting. 74 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: You know what's funny about that to me is I 75 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: still write in cursive when I handwrite anything. And there 76 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of people that I work with or 77 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: that I come across who don't understand it at all, 78 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: Like what did you do here? Why did you scribble 79 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: on a paper? And I'm like, that's a thing we 80 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: used to know. Do you know how to do cursive 81 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: or no? 82 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I write my signature and then sometimes 83 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: I'll write letters incursive, but it's. 84 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: How's your signature? Can you read all the letters of 85 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: your signature? 86 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: No? Let me look over here. I think you can. 87 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't have two l's in the tally, but I 88 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: think you can read everything else. 89 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: That's at My signature is two giant c's and a 90 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: bunch of scribbles. Like I don't actually try to write 91 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: any other letters, Okay, I remember, like, yeah, well, I know, 92 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: I remember. I think it was like Michael Jordan or 93 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: someone who had a signature where you couldn't really make 94 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: out all of the letters after the M and the J. 95 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: And as a little kid who thought at some point 96 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: my signature was probably going to be important, I had 97 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: to start practicing this. And so I make the sea 98 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: for Craig and the sea for Collins as large as 99 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: I can, and then within each sea I scribbled nonsense, 100 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: but I do it. I think it's pretty similar all 101 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: the time. Like I think it's the same scribbling nonsense, 102 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: and I'm proud of it. For some rey, I don't 103 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: know why we're talking about this right now. Almost no 104 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: one asked me to sign anything in the world in 105 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: which we live, not even like my check. I don't 106 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: even think they care about that. They're like, i'll fix it. 107 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: I'll do it for you. My wife has forged my 108 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: signature a ton of times on stuff. 109 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: I'm also going to put that out there. No one 110 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: go after her. 111 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm not pressing any charges, but I'm pretty sure that 112 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: if you looked for a signature of me in society now, 113 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: more likely it's my wife's version than mine. 114 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: For things that are signed by me? Did you have 115 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: it's probably go ahead? 116 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 2: Did you ever need to well sign for your parents 117 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: in school? 118 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: You mean, did I ever make up a note and 119 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: have to put their name on it? Is that what 120 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 3: you're saying? Did I ever fake a note? I don't know. Oh, 121 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 122 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 1: The only thing that ever happened to me in school 123 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: is when I would fake sick with the tummy ache 124 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: and then get in trouble when the nurse came in 125 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: the room and me and my buddy were like jumping 126 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: on the beds because we thought we were getting out 127 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: of school early and then we'd get sent back to class. 128 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: But I don't think we tried to fake notes. What 129 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: about you? 130 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: If it were something where it's like, here's my signature 131 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: to say that she can go on the field trip, 132 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: I would always call her. I would be sweating bullets 133 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: if I had to just do it on my own, 134 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: but I would call her and be like, hey, can 135 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: I I forgot to have you sign this thing? Can 136 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: I sign it for you? Are you sure it's okay? 137 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: Are you? 138 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? That's funny. 139 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: So you did the honest version of forging your parents' signature, 140 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: not the fake version. 141 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't do the other one. 142 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I got you. That's very sweet, that's very nice. 143 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: You know. 144 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: I would try to fake sick all the time in school. 145 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: But I think when I was in school, we didn't 146 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: even need the note. We just got to go to 147 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: the nurse because there was a nurse that worked in 148 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: my school. I don't know if they still have these 149 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: in schools now. And you'd go to the nurse's office 150 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: and you'd sit there in the little nurse bed, and 151 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the qualifications were of the 152 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: school nurse. I think she was a real nurse, I'm 153 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: not sure. And then she'd like, you know, do the test, 154 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: and the tests required nothing like are you sick? Yeah, 155 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: I feel sick, and then you got to go home, 156 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: which was great, And so I faked sick a bunch, 157 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: and I think even the bus would come back and 158 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: pick you up and bring it home, because you know, 159 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: we probably had three or four kids go home sick 160 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: every day because of our system. But I was in 161 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: a Catholic school in New Jersey where we had all 162 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: nuns teaching us, and they'd tell us, don't lie, and 163 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: then you'd go to the school nurse who I don't 164 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: think was a nun and you'd lie and you get 165 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: to go home, and it was great. But I don't 166 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: think I ever had to sign anything that was a 167 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: long description of something you didn't ask about, wasn't it. 168 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: Hey, that's okay. What else do we have time for? 169 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: Fine? Fine, we'll move on. We'll move on to other things. 170 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: I do love that though, and I love again the 171 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: story about the day that me and my buddy both 172 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: got tummy ages together. I went to the nurse's office 173 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: and I think she just left on purpose, knowing that 174 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: we were faking, because we started jumping on the bed 175 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: this was real, and celebrating the fact that we got 176 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: to go home, and then immediately got in trouble and 177 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: we're told that we were not allowed to go home 178 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: and we shouldn't lie. And then I think there was 179 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: probably some sort of mass that was held. 180 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: I'm kidding. 181 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: We went to church in school and we're told how 182 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: we were terrible kids. All right, Other things out there, 183 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: final move on to serious stuff. I really don't want 184 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: to talk about it today. I'm going to be honest 185 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: with you. The holidays are happening. A Thursday is a 186 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: great day for Christmas, both for money. I read that 187 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: a whole lot of people likely went to movies and 188 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: stuff because the tail end of the week was very 189 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: focused on the holiday, and then that bleeds over into 190 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: the weekend, and then you come back on Monday and 191 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: you pop open the news and you see a whole 192 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff about Ukraine and awful things, and you're like, man, 193 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: this is all terrible, This is all stuff I don't 194 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: want to think about. But we have to, darn it, 195 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: we have to do it. We have to talk about 196 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: the serious stuff out there. As far as the meeting 197 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: between Zelenski and Trump goes, and I do think some 198 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: of the audio out there that's pretty good is coming 199 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: from people like Scott Jennings saying that Trump deserves a 200 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize in twenty twenty six, the fact that 201 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: we're this close to peace, and I know Trump when 202 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: he first took office said he'd end stuff in a 203 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: day that was obviously illogical and not going to happen, 204 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: but to end stuff potentially within the first year that 205 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: he's in this position, and having Biden have failed to 206 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: prevent it and then failed to end it within the 207 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: years that it was taking place, well Biden was in office, 208 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: like this is a remarkable accomplishment, And it's a remarkable 209 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: accomplishment for one very specific reason is that the United 210 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: States is now willing, when they weren't before under the 211 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: previous administration, to tell Ukraine they have to give something up. 212 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: That is a thing that most of society I didn't 213 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: want to have happened, or I think some of society 214 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: didn't want to have happened, because a lot of people 215 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: rightfully so see Ukraine as the victim here. 216 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: But the inevitable. 217 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Place we'd find, and I thought this from like month 218 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: two of this conflict, the inevitable place that we'd find 219 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: is that in order for the fighting to stop, Russia 220 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: would have to get something because no one else was 221 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: willing to put boots on the ground, as Tony kat says, often, 222 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: to fight this fight with Ukraine for Ukraine, and Ukraine 223 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: could not, especially a long form conflict with staying the 224 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: amount of loss that you'd have in that to stay 225 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: fighting Russia for years. Most people expected this to end 226 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: within a few months. The fact that it's gone on 227 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: so long is remarkable and a credit to Ukraine. But 228 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: the way that these sort of conflicts end. The way 229 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: that one side chooses to inevitably stand down does usually 230 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: mean that the side defending itself has to lose something 231 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: in this regard, especially when the forces are so unevenly 232 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: matched as they are in this fight. But the fact 233 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: that we've gotten here that there might be security guarantees 234 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: even for Ukraine for the next fifteen years or so 235 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: if they surrender territory. All of that is a byproduct 236 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: of the United States actually using its influence as the 237 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: funding apparatus of the fight to say, we're not going 238 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: to keep funding an endless war. We need it to end, 239 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: and we need these to be things you're going to 240 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: agree to you. Because if we still had Biden in office, 241 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: if we still had anyone in office who didn't like 242 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: the optics of what's happening right now, the you know, 243 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: visual version of oh man, it looks terrible that Ukraine 244 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: is giving in after it was attacked, then we'd have 245 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: an ongoing conflict and we have a military of Ukraine 246 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: that was depleting by the day, by the month, by 247 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: the year, to the point where it eventually won't be 248 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: able to defend itself at all. If this just keeps 249 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: going and likely I think more that would be given 250 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: from Ukraine to Russia and more that would be devastated. 251 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: The country as a whole seems to be mostly destroyed. 252 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: If you believe some of the other reporting on this 253 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: and not the mainstream reporting on it. There's a lot 254 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: of things that have been destroyed throughout the entirety of Ukraine. Granted, 255 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: there are certain cities that probably still resemble the life 256 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: they had before the war, but by and large, the 257 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: toll of this conflict is obvious, and so the end 258 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: of it, and an end of it that you know, 259 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: Russia doesn't take everything, is actually good for the world. 260 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: So I do think it's interesting because this gets talked 261 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: about as Zelenski sat down with Trump, because if you remember, 262 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: I'll say one last thing about this before I take 263 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: a break. Just a few months ago, Zelensky was much 264 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: more defiant in the room with Trump, much more unwilling 265 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: to entertain some of the discussion points that seemed to 266 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: indicate that they were likely to lose something in the 267 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: inevitable end of that fight, that they were likely to 268 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: give territory and whatnot to Russia. This was not something 269 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: that Zelensky had accepted. He was adjusting to Trump being 270 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: in office and Biden no longer being in office and trying, 271 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: I think, to position himself in a way and reach 272 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: out to Congress or anyone else would help him, as 273 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: if Trump was the bad guy for talking about this stuff. 274 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: But now this many months into the conflict, more and 275 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: this much longer, with Trump in the position of power 276 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: as the president, it's the end reality, and it's the 277 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: reality I think you always expected. I always expected again 278 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: to be the outcome as far as this fight is concerned, 279 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: because it just it made no sense. I'll say it 280 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: this way. It's an awful way to say it, but 281 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: I will say it this way. The eggs in Afghanistan 282 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: was obviously, obviously terrible. Every part of it is the 283 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: kind of thing that a different leader, Trump or anyone 284 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: else would have known that the right way to do 285 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: it was so utterly different than the way they did it. 286 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: For optics and optics only. The reason Biden failed so 287 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: spectacular to remove troops from Ukraine in a positive way 288 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: was because he cared about being able to say he 289 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: ended that conflict, not because he cared about protecting the 290 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: people that fight these fights for US. But optics becomes 291 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: a huge component. Now some people focus on these conflicts, 292 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: but Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, any of the fighting we did. 293 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: None of those places, I should remove Iran from the equation. 294 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: We didn't actually fight them directly, and they're different. But 295 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: none of those places would ever have beaten the United States, 296 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: even though it was an endless war, an endless struggle 297 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and something we probably shouldn't 298 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: have done to begin with, and certainly something that we 299 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: should have exited better than how we exited it. There 300 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: was no fear of someday our forces being overwhelmed by 301 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: the forces of the other. That's the position Russia is in. 302 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: That's when Trump says that, you know, they have all 303 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: the cards. They can't lose to Ukraine without the help 304 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: of someone else. It's just impossible. And so Russia is 305 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: comfortable fighting a fight that lasts as long as the 306 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: conflict that we had in places like a Rock or 307 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: Afghanistan because they know that there's only so much harm 308 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: that can happen from one side to the other compared 309 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: to the opposite, the amount of slow and sort of 310 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, meticulous destruction of a place. So I just 311 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: think it's interesting that again, we got here just a 312 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: couple of days after the holiday, but they were so 313 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: very close the end of this conflict, which has to 314 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: be a thing that gets credited to President Trump and 315 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: only President Trump forgetting us there by being stronger than 316 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: the previous administration was all right, I think I've repeated 317 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: myself enough times on this topic. Quick break a lot more. 318 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Craig Collins filling in Kendall and Casey ninety three WIBC. 319 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: This is the kendle In Casey Show. My name is 320 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: Craigan's filling in. 321 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to 322 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: talk about out there in the world. 323 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: And yet we're just after Christmas, just before New Year's 324 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: This is the time of the year where people definitely 325 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: have checked out. There was a story I think I 326 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: did earlier this week filling in on Tony Kats in 327 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: the morning news where people don't even know what day 328 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: it is. Between I think it was last Wednesday or 329 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: last Tuesday, and until after New Year's Eve, you might 330 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: wake up and not remember what day it is. Obviously 331 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: if you're on a long term vacation even more so, 332 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: that's true. But this is unique to this time of year, 333 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: where most people, even if you're even showing up and 334 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: following your weekly routine compared to what you do normally, 335 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: it's just not all there. Just everything's not there. So 336 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that idea, and I'm leaning 337 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: into that a little bit. I think in some of 338 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: the discussions we're having on the air, I saw this 339 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: story at a Fortune magazine, Fortune dot Com. Agen Zers 340 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: and millennials are flocking to so called analog islands. This 341 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: is places where you might visit for vacation that don't 342 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: have as much availability for technology, or they have the 343 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: availability for things that are the very opposite of the 344 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: technology we have, so that they can feel disconnected because 345 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: being connected is often terrible for your mental health and 346 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: other things. One of the things that people apparently are 347 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: trying out while on some of these vacations to places 348 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: where technology is harder to come by. 349 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: Stick shift vehicles. I thought this was hilarious because the. 350 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: Least fun thing you can do on a holiday, in 351 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: my opinion, is try to learn stick shift. I know 352 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: how to drive both a motorcycle, which I owned for years, 353 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: and stick shift cars. I actually own them as a 354 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: kid growing up, so I'm definitely capable of this. This 355 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: is not coming from a place of a guy that 356 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: doesn't know how to do this. But I would never 357 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: want to teach somebody this on a vacation, Like I 358 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: would not want someone to go with me, my wife 359 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: or anybody else and be like, hey, can you teach 360 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: me how to drive stick That sounds horrible, That sounds 361 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: absolutely to terrible. But I like the fact that young people, 362 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: millennials and gen z so a group I'm in, are 363 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: arrogant enough to think it's probably not that hard that 364 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: they ruin at least a day of their vacation trying 365 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: to learn this sort of thing, whether it's in a 366 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: jeep or anything else, which apparently they're doing other places. Kylon, 367 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: do you know how to drive a stick shift car? 368 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: I sure do. I learned with Chester. Yeah. 369 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: What kind of car did you learn on? 370 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? She had a Mustang, which is crazy that she 371 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: would interest me with driving it, but it was, Yeah, 372 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: it was really nice. I learned to drive stick after 373 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: I got my motorcycle license. 374 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: And so it was wait a minute, what you have 375 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: a motorcycle license too. 376 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: I sure do. I've got a little Yamaha. 377 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: How have we never talked about this Kylin. 378 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: We work together a surprising amount on you know, holidays 379 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: and whatnot for two people that have definitely never met 380 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: in real life. And we both drive motorcycles. 381 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: You have a. 382 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: Yamah, I do. 383 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: Yep, she's a beautiful blue next time you're in Indiana 384 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: and we'll have to take it for a ride. 385 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, it sounds great. 386 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: That sounds about I don't think I can ride on 387 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: the back of anybody else's motorcycle. 388 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: That's not allowed. 389 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: Is here who still have a bike? 390 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 391 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: I do. 392 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: We can figure it out, we can both go. Yeah. 393 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: Yes, and I'd rent one before I'd ride on the 394 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: back of anybody else's motorcycle. It's not a you thing, 395 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: it's a me thing, and I. 396 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: Don't think i'd want you on the back. 397 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 3: But now it's hilarious. That's so nice of you to 398 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: say that so bluntly. I mean, now, it's fine. Yeah. 399 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: I used to own a Triumph Bonneville, which recently made 400 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 1: a debut in a Marvel movie, or at least a 401 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: Marvel thing. Captain America apparently is driving a Triumph in 402 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: the Avengers Doomsday movie. No one cares about any of this. 403 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: I cared a whole lot about it when I saw it, 404 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: because it was a very quick focus on a Triumph bike. 405 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 3: I like them. 406 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: They're made in the UK, in Britain, so I think 407 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: that Captain America is probably living in the UK in 408 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: the next movie. But anyway, I was just excited that 409 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: he was driving my bike side one of those. For 410 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: a long time, I tried to teach my wife how 411 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: to drive it, and she did not enjoy that. That 412 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: did not go well, mostly because she couldn't lift it, 413 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: and it's not even a heavy bike. She just didn't 414 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: couldn't lift it, and so like that ended. Rather, I 415 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: don't think we ever moved. I think teaching her was 416 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: telling her how it worked and her thinking about like 417 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: how that would work, and then getting off the bike. 418 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 2: But yes, there's so many actually to it. 419 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, right, And I would actually drive my 420 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: motorcycle to Indiana, not right now. It sounds like a 421 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: terrible idea, but I would do that now so that 422 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: I can go drive around and I think that needs 423 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: to happen. I think I need to do a Houston 424 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: to Indiana bike ride for charity at some point connected 425 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: to WIBC, because I would also love that and enjoy that. 426 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: But yes, most people apparently don't know how to drive 427 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: stick in our generations, so they choose during the holidays 428 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: to waste a whole bunch of their time learning a 429 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: thing that they're probably also never use again after that. 430 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: Do you like the idea of being away from technology 431 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: all you're on a vacation? 432 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, Yeah, it's a huge trend to be able 433 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: to disconnect and get some mindfulness back, right. Absolutely. Being 434 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: present is something that is constantly on my feed. 435 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: So can you do it? Though? 436 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: Can you actually like put the phone down and spend 437 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: a few days where you're not connected to stuff? 438 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: That's a great question. 439 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: Is this is a very long pause. I think the 440 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: answer is no, or is it your I would love to. 441 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: I think i'd be able to with the work that 442 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: I am in. I know during some times, with radio 443 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: being twenty four to seven, you can't always put the 444 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: phone down. 445 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: You cannot. 446 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: Yes, if it's a certain time of year, I'll have 447 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: to plan that out. Yeah, I'll let you know. 448 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I love that. 449 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: I love that you're saying you can do it, but 450 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: you've obviously never done it before, so it definitely yeah, Okay, yeah, 451 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: I've done it a little bit. I've done it, like 452 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: most of a day where the phone stays in the 453 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: hotel room and you don't really have access to it, 454 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: and it's awesome. Why I tell you it's awesome because 455 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: if people who care about you know you're on vacation 456 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: and you're not paying attention to like work for a 457 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: few days, then if you don't respond to them, they're 458 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: not offended. Because I think that's the worst thing in 459 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: the society now as far as dis asociating from technology 460 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: for an amount of time is there are people in 461 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: your life who will think that you're ignoring them if 462 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: they don't get a response right away, And that to 463 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: me is so dumb because we used to not be 464 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: a respond right away society. I used to have voice 465 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: machines and everything that people would you know, do And 466 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: so that's the only concern that I ever have the 467 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: longer i'm away from technology is that somebody will send 468 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: me an email or text or something and then I 469 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: don't respond, and then they think I'm a big jerk. 470 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: This actually happened on Christmas. I'll tell you that on 471 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: Christmas Day, I didn't have anything to do, so I 472 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: left my phone in my car at the place we 473 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: were at and didn't get it till that night, and 474 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: I had text from people Merry Christmas and stuff, and 475 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: I didn't respond at night because it was too late. 476 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: So I responded the next day and a couple of 477 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: my friends were like, finally, what. 478 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: Took you so long? And I was like, I'm sorry, dude. 479 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: I really apologized for not saying Merry Christmas yesterday, but 480 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention to my phone at all. And 481 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: it was lovely. It was not lovely to get in 482 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: the fight with the friends. It was lovely to not 483 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: care about it for twenty four hours. 484 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: That was great. 485 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: I highly highly recommend it, and I think I've joked before. 486 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's on this show, but other 487 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: places that we should do one day where the entire 488 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: world goes technology free. We all show up at a 489 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: park together, somebody brings a frisbee or a Hackey sack, 490 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: and we just see what happens. I feel like that's 491 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: a scenario that I would really enjoy no technology day, 492 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: and we see how many of us wind up, you know, 493 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: doing things, maybe go to putt putt or go bowling 494 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: as a group as a society and see how that goes. 495 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: I think it would be right. 496 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would be healing and also hilarious 497 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: for me again to feel everybody at the same time 498 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: show up at the park together with a bunch of 499 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: Hackey sacks, because it's going to be a fun day, 500 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: but it's going to be annoying, right, quick break a 501 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: lot more. Craig Collins filling in on Kendall and Casey 502 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC, Tony Cats The Morning News ninety three WIBC. 503 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: My name is Craig Collins, filling in, thrilled to be 504 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: with you. Wait a minute, I did that wrong. It's 505 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: not Tony Casts. This is Kendall and Casey. 506 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: Oh man. 507 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: I was telling myself all day I wasn't going to 508 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: do that, and I did it because I'm so used 509 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: to one working with Kylon on the other show, and 510 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: two filling in on the other show. So it is, 511 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: you know, twelve thirty or eleven thirty in the afternoon here. 512 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: It is definitely not The Morning News anymore. 513 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: My fault tall involved. 514 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: I apologize to Kendall, Casey, Tony, anybody. This is the 515 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: Kendall and Casey Show. Rob Kendall Casey, Daniel. It is 516 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: definitely not the other thing, and I'm an idiot and 517 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: blame me. I hate doing that as a radio guy too, 518 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: because it does annoy not that I think it'll annoy 519 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: kendle In Casey, but it does annoy me when somebody 520 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: doesn't say my name when they're filling in on my show. 521 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: So I apologize again. All right, anyway, let's do some 522 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: quick stuff. This is interesting to me. China had its 523 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: largest war games like demonstration of how it could quickly 524 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: surround Taiwan. They did this earlier today Monday for them, actually, 525 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: so it was probably still Sunday night for us. This 526 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: is a demonstration of just how quickly Beijing could decide 527 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: that it's sober between them and Taiwan and essentially cut 528 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: them off from the rest of the world. This is 529 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: something that Taiwan will have to choose how, if at 530 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: all it tries to respond to something like this, it's 531 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: going to do basically nothing like That's the part. 532 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: It was a war game. 533 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: It was a thing that wasn't you know, real, but 534 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: it was a demonstration of strength. And you might ask 535 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: yourself why this happened right now, and I have a theory. 536 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: I believe that this is one hundred percent tied to 537 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: the US and Venezuela. A whole lot of people are 538 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: out there are saying that the US is doing what 539 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: they did with you know, Iraq, with any other sort 540 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: of country in which they're very oil rich, and that 541 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: the whole fight is just about oil, that the United 542 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: States is essentially trying to gain an advantage by going 543 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: after Venezuela and somehow getting control of the vast oil 544 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: reserves that exist in that country. 545 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: That is idiotic. And I'll tell you why. 546 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: The reason it's idiotic is right now, if the United 547 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: States wanted to disrupt oil trade between Venezuela, China, and Russia, 548 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: we could do something easier. We could buy it, and 549 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: we could buy it cheaper than the amount of money 550 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna use in what we've been doing to try 551 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: to demonstrate our own military strength to a country that 552 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: does hurt us. They hurt us through the drugs that 553 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: move from that country into our country, whether it's ventanyl 554 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: or cocaine or whatever you want to call it. I 555 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: know a lot of people on the left say it's 556 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: not fentanyl. I don't care what drug it is if 557 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: it's a drug that's hurting our society, that's bad. And 558 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: also a lot of drugs that go through Venezuela wind 559 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: up either you know, touching the United States and then 560 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: going elsewhere. 561 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: YadA, YadA, YadA. 562 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways where that industry is uniquely 563 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: bad for us and for the world, So fighting it 564 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: is not not a bad thing. I think it's sort 565 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: of ridiculous that people out there say that the United 566 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: States blowing up drug boats is the same as like, 567 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, attacking people who are just innocently fishing. Because 568 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: drug boats and the drug trade is bad for society 569 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: as a whole, it's bad for society beyond our own country. 570 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: So I don't know why that is as controversial as 571 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: people making it. It's sort of ridiculous, And there was 572 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: a war on drugs at one point that feels like 573 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: we should be having it again based on some of 574 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: the bad things that happen. But if you go beyond that, 575 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: the other big thing that matters between the United States 576 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: and Venezuela is the way that Venezuela is used by 577 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: Russia and China and other countries that we don't always 578 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: get along with to circumvent any of the paper attacks. 579 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: That's what I like to call them, paper tiger, whatever 580 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: you want it to be, the attempts financially to disrupt 581 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: these countries like Russia. When Biden said that sanctions were 582 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: going to be the avenue to prevent Russia from invading Ukraine, 583 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: he was being an idiot, and he obviously didn't think 584 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: he was a moron, but I don't even think he 585 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: understood if he was all there at that point or 586 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: any point, so who knows. But nonetheless, like that wasn't 587 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: going to work. And one of the big reasons that 588 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: sanctions are so much less effective than they used to 589 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: be at some point on places like Russia and China 590 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: is because of countries like Venezuela and the way that 591 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: they prop up trade. The biggest trade partners of Venezuela, 592 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: unsurprising Russia and China. The biggest way in which oil 593 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: is you know, passed along between those countries, even though 594 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: Russia is oil rich itself through Venezuela. So it's just 595 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: it's amazing to see people miss the actual target, not 596 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: that they don't miss targets all the time, especially mainstream media. 597 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: People missing targets on what's actually going on the United 598 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: States is trying to find a way to have true 599 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: influence over the countries that it doesn't you know, get 600 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: along with often. Again, as I said, and this is 601 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: the latest example of a reason that's important if China 602 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: at some point actually does take provocative military action on Taiwan, 603 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: and the United States is thrust into a world where 604 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: we want to help defend Taiwan and whatever that looks like, 605 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: we will hope, we will pray that we have a 606 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: capability of influencing China, not that it would really work, 607 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: just with the help of Venezuela through preventing some of 608 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: those mechanisms that allow in a want of me to 609 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: stay you know, in place, even after the United States 610 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: makes it harder to do trade with US, harder to 611 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: do business with us, and harder to do business with 612 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: a lot of our friends throughout the world. So I 613 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: just think this is so interesting or so important in 614 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: the grand scheme of what's going on. And the reason 615 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: why one you know, action is being taken over here 616 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: is because of an action that's happening over here, and 617 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: people buy and larger disregarding it. But I can say 618 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: it more simplistically of Venezuela is a place that's run 619 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: by a horrible dictator. Most of the country is poor 620 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: and you know, struggling to survive. That is not untrue. 621 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: A ton of corruption exists, a ton of horrible things 622 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: like drug trade and whatnot run rampant in places like that. 623 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: Terrorist organizations operate there. Like you can go down the 624 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: list of all these things that are absolutely true about 625 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: how bad life has gotten in that part of the 626 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: world that is very close to us, and how much 627 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: people that are further away from us, powers that we 628 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: conflict with want to use it to get close. It's 629 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: the same same thing in a way, and this is 630 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: definitely not a good comparison, but I'll make it for 631 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: the sake of hopefully helping you understand the point I'm 632 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: trying to make here. The United States has a strategic 633 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: partnership with Israel, by and large partially because no one 634 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: else in that area is our friend or Israel's friend, 635 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: and it's very important for both of us that we 636 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: have a friend in that area, and that Israel has 637 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: someone that helps them defend themselves from everybody else that 638 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: surrounds them. In a way, again, not at all the 639 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: same thing very very different circumstances as far as the 640 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: life and quality of life within the country. Israel is 641 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: not horrible to its people by the way that Venezuela is. 642 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: But Venezuela is trying to be used by Russia and 643 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: China to get access closely to us, to harm us 644 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: in a way. So you can really think of it 645 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: in those terms that this strategic partnership, regardless of the 646 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: behavior of Venezuela, is much more important to places like 647 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: Russia and China, and because of that, we need to 648 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: actually stop something. And the nice thing, this is a 649 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: weird way to say it, the nice thing about this 650 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: circumstance is we'd actually be helping the people in Venezuela 651 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: and whatever we do. And I'm not advocating that we 652 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: necessarily start a war. I know a lot of people 653 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: are expecting that to be the outcome of all of this. 654 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: I think, truly the biggest thing we want to do 655 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: is disrupt the oil trade. That we want to take 656 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: as much control of that as possible, because it is 657 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: truthfully the biggest thing hurting us beyond it's not to 658 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: get the oil. It's so overly simplistic when people say 659 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: it that way, it's to do something very very different 660 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: than just get more product here in the United States 661 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: and try to drive the cost of oil down even more. 662 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: Like that's silly, that's to me dumb in twenty twenty 663 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: five to be the only reason we would do something, 664 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: but none the last. The reason I talk about this, 665 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: the reason I mention all this is because of the 666 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: news out of China and the way in which they're 667 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: demonstrating their potential ability to harm Taiwan, to encircle Taiwan. 668 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: All of that is because of of what Trump is 669 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: doing with Venezuela, and both of those sides know it. 670 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: The rest of our society doesn't seem to understand it, 671 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: but a whole lot of people do. And I think 672 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: that it's actually a good thing if we continue to 673 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: behave the way we're behaving, because that actually gets to 674 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: the heart of the problem. Just sanctions and all that 675 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: stuff is never going to work, and actually allowing Russia, 676 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: not allowing forcing Russia, is the right term to play ball, 677 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: and to actually live up to any sort of peace 678 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: agreement with Ukraine. There will need to be a strength 679 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: component for the United States that we didn't have before, 680 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: and that component of strength may very well come through 681 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: changing the leadership in Venezuela, changing everything there to make 682 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: it a country that does more to benefit us and 683 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: does less to benefit our enemies. That is inevitably the 684 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: plan at the end of the day for all that, 685 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: and I think that that's vitally important to not only 686 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: the immediate safety of our country, but the long term 687 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: safety of a lot of the places that we're trying 688 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: to help and defend. All right, on that note, we'll 689 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: take a quick break, we'll come back, we'll do a 690 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: little bit extra silly stuff. I do want to revisit 691 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: a motorcycle topic. I just found out that producer Kylin 692 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: is a motorcycle person. I am a motorcycle person, so 693 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: that's great. And Matt Behar, who's not with us, Matt 694 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: Bear does traffic in the morning and in the afternoon 695 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: but not hanging out right now, has heard this story 696 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: enough times that Matt will be happy he's not on 697 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: the show. I will talk about the motorcycle accent I 698 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: got in in college and how I'm Spider Man. That's 699 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: essentially the end of the story, so that coming up 700 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: in more in just a bit. Craig Collins filling in 701 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: on the Kendall and Casey Show, not Tony Kats in 702 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: the Morning News ninety three WIBC. This is the Kendall 703 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: and case Show, ninety three WIBC. My name is Craig Collins, 704 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: filling in producer. Kylan is hanging out on special assignment 705 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: over the holidays. We wind up working together a lot 706 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: over the holidays. Kylind and I and I just found out, 707 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: and she just found out that we both own motorcycles, 708 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: which is something that had never come up off the 709 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: air before. And motorcycles are great, They're wonderful vehicles. I 710 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: once gotten an accident in mine, though, and my wife 711 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: very much tried to prevent me from ever getting another 712 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: one for quite a long time. And I listened for 713 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: a long time because you know, happy wife, happy life. 714 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you that the motorcycle accident that happened 715 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: convinced me that I'm indestructible. And that's probably a terrible thing, 716 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: but it did. So I'm going to tell the story 717 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: here quickly on the air. A Kylon can weigh in 718 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: as someone who owns bikes as well, but this very quickly, 719 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: and I've told this story on a Matt and Craig 720 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: excellent podcast, more than once, I think, and probably not 721 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: good that I've told it more than once, but darn it, 722 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't care. Spider Man is the end of the story, 723 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: so you can hear it there too, and hear Matt's 724 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: react and do it too there if you want to 725 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: hear how Matt Bear reacts to this story. But I 726 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: was driving my motorcycle in Chicago, where I lived for 727 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: a very long time. 728 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 3: I was going to work. I went through a red light. 729 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: You know, it had obviously been green when I went 730 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: through it, and then it turned red, and then I 731 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: stopped because the person in front of me was turning 732 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: into an apartment complex. And then all of a sudden, 733 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: in my rear view, I look down and I see 734 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: a car barely toward the light that definitely is going 735 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: to run the red and is definitely going to hit me, 736 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: like they're going to do two terrible things at once, 737 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: and it's going to be bad. And the car in 738 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: front of me, thankfully, was turning out of the way, 739 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: so I wasn't gonna, you know, get hit from one 740 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: vehicle into another vehicle. 741 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: So here's what I did. 742 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: I looked down and I simply just pushed up off 743 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: of my motorcycle pegs. Right as the car hit me, 744 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: I floated in the air like a superhero. The bike 745 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: went out from under me, spun destroyed, said, and I 746 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: feel like I could watch it in slow motion, I 747 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: getting destroyed it. I was floating in the air, but 748 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: I think the way the car impacted me and the bike, 749 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: it just catapulted me upward and then I landed on 750 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: my feet. And then I turned around, and as I 751 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: turned around, the car that hit me was screeching to 752 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: a stop right in front of me without hitting me. 753 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: And then two young women popped out of the car. 754 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: They were attractive. That's not important, but it's part of 755 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: the story. And they kept apologizing to me and telling 756 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: me there were reasons that they made some horrible decisions 757 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: and you know whatnot and I inevitably just took their 758 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: insurance information and wound up adding a new bike because 759 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: of the payment on it. 760 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: But I survived. 761 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: The most important part is that I survived without a scratch. 762 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: And so from that moment on, my wife said it 763 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: was a miracle and I should never drive a motorcycle again, 764 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: and I said, it was a demonstration of the superpower 765 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: that lies within me, and I should have motorcycles for 766 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: the rest of my life because I'm unkillable. I'm not 767 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: sure what side of the argument Kylon will land on, 768 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: or anyone out there will. I assume most people will 769 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: land on the side my wife is on. But come on, 770 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: I flew through the air and landed on my feet 771 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: like a gosh darn you know, superhero, I deserve to 772 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: have a motorcycle forever. 773 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: You. 774 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 2: I always advocate for safeties. You should always wear a helmet. 775 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: You should always try and be safe. Don't be riding 776 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 2: in crazy awful conditions. But correct you survived and thrived 777 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: the fact that you're a superman. Like, yes, absolutely, I 778 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: would get another motorcycle. 779 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: Did you see that? Yeah? In real life? 780 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: When I landed on my feet and the car kind 781 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: of screeched to a halt in front of me, it 782 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: felt like a movie for a sell like it really 783 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: felt like I lived out a scene that you would 784 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: have to rehearse to make it happen that way. And 785 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: when the two twenty something girls popped out of the car, 786 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: I was in my twenties two at the time, by 787 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: the way, and they ran up to me and were apologizing, 788 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: Like immediately, I kind of felt proud that I had 789 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: just shown off by accident in front of these people. 790 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: I was married at the time, so no, you know, 791 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: flirting of any kind occurred, but just the fact that 792 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: I was amazing in front of people to me was 793 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: enough of a thing as a reward that goes. And 794 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: they did give me insurance information and they did take 795 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: responsibility for the crash all that happened. So I got 796 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: a replacement. But I think I'm unkillable. I know I can't. 797 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that. That's a horrible thing how to 798 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: put out there into the world. But in that moment, 799 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: I definitely felt invincible. And so I've told this story 800 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: time and again as an example of how I should absolutely, 801 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: as I said, never give up motorcycles. The missus tells 802 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: it as the lucky moment that I needed to learn 803 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: the lesson from. 804 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't think we should be testing the killable theory personally, 805 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 2: but the one off is great. 806 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 3: Let's take it. I beg, beg you. Yeah. Yeah. 807 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: She still believes, unfortunately more than she should. Although men 808 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: do like to be impressive around well like we like 809 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: to show off around the ladies, she does believe a 810 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: portion of it that made me so confident is the 811 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: fact that the people who are driving the other vehicle 812 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: were young women and not like, you know, older dudes 813 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: or something. I don't think that's true, though. I think 814 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: I would have been just as proud in any scenario 815 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: with anybody. I don't think that's the motivating factor at 816 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: all here, but it has been part of the argument 817 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: from time time. 818 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 3: So I like that too. I love that too. 819 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: But at least, Kylon, you can understand how odd of 820 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: a decision I made to just push up on my 821 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: pegs and how that essentially saved my life. So really, truthfully, 822 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: this is all about how great I am and nothing else, 823 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: all right, other things out there quickly before we get 824 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: out of here. Stores are horrible right now if you're 825 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: going to stores, most likely because a whole bunch of 826 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: people are returning stuff. My wife and I didn't return anything, 827 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: but we did go to a box store over the weekend, 828 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: and the line for returning stuff was crazy, which I 829 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: find interesting because I do think a lot of people 830 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: are getting their gifts online and you know, giving their 831 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: gifts to other people. But by and large, a lot 832 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: of these box store places to get people into the 833 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: store are allowing for like an Amazon return to be 834 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: done at their location instead of you know, putting it 835 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: back in the mail and stuff. So this seems to 836 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: be the best time of the year for the box 837 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: stores to have people in them because they're returning items 838 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: from other stores, which is just weird. I just kept 839 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: thinking about how odd that is, but how it's essentially 840 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: probably working because you get the little cupon after that, 841 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: I saw everybody was getting for some amount of stuff off. 842 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: Yep, okay, you were saying yes to this. 843 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I imagine there's a lot of shopping that's happening 844 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: at the you know, May season and the other types 845 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: of places like that of the world that are doing 846 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 1: these returns. 847 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: A couple thoughts, because they have an estimated value of 848 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty billion dollars being returned at this 849 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 2: time after the whizz it's crazy. Yes, it is billions 850 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: of dollars. But some stores are now charging return fees 851 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: if you guys are bringing stuff back, like Macy's, Teachings, 852 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 2: Best Buy. Some of them even charging up to forty 853 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: five dollars if you're returning things because of how much 854 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: it's just returned every year. 855 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's crazy. 856 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: It makes you almost think that you should just be 857 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: getting gift cards for people at this point, Like, really, 858 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: what are we doing If I'm going to buy you 859 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: something and you like it, but you're gonna like something 860 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: else more, why don't I just give you money or 861 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: a version of money at a certain place. I like 862 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: the gift card move too, because it shows that I've 863 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: thought out a little bit of what you're going to get, 864 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: Like I've contemplated the category of stuff that I'm getting 865 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: you when you go shop for yourself, and I'm not 866 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: just giving you money, and then you decide what to 867 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: do with that. My mother gives people Amazon gift cards 868 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: for Christmas. She sent me one and we actually use 869 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: it to buy food at Whole Foods, which. 870 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 3: You can do. 871 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: You can order the food on Amazon or on the 872 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: Whole Foods website, go pick it up in the store, 873 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: and use the amaz On gift card to do it. 874 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: So I love that it's my favorite, and it's my 875 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: wife's favorite. Get the fancy groceries for the Christmas thing. 876 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: But I love the fact that, like whatever category of 877 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: gift card you choose, I've demonstrated some amount of thought. 878 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 3: I've given you a gift that wasn't just money. So 879 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: there you go. 880 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: I've somehow decided, you know, on the kind of although 881 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: with Amazon it's literally anything I really that I could 882 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: get with that. But I like that, So maybe we 883 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: should all do that and not buy stuff, buy real 884 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: stuff for each other. 885 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 2: Hey, while you're at those stores, you might as well 886 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: check out that Christmas clearance fifty to seventy percent off. 887 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, look at that. We only have one. 888 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: Hundred and sixty two more days till Christmas. You might 889 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 2: as well stock up. 890 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 891 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: You know what's funny about that too, is yes, at 892 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: the front of I think it was a TJ Max 893 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: that I was in yesterday with the misses because she 894 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: wants to go there just to be there. 895 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 3: What is it with women in TJ Max? 896 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: Can you explain that to me in one minute before 897 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: we take a break and I'm done for the whole day. 898 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 3: You like the TJ maxing? You need? 899 00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: Okay, clothes, kitchen store, jewelry, jewelry, shoes, and cheese, absolutely 900 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 2: everything you need. 901 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: That's okay, okay, you know what TJ Max needs. I 902 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: feel like I've talked about this before, but I'll talk 903 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: about it again. A tool section in the back, just one, 904 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: one aisle of so that I can go there with 905 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: all the other guys who are stuck at the TJ 906 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: Max and stand in the tool aisle until we're allowed 907 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: to leave, because that would be great. I go shopping 908 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: with the message, he tries on closing things, and I 909 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: just have to stand there in the TJ Max. 910 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 3: Still it's over. 911 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: Give me one aisle of power tools and that would 912 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: be great. All right, we're out of here, we're done, 913 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: no time left. I doubt TJ Max was listening. But 914 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: that'll change the world if you make that out of reality. 915 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: Craig Collins filling in Kylon hanging out on Kendall and 916 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: Casey ninety three WIBC