1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: The news came down yesterday that Lennett Redsvinsky, who is 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: the owner of OnlyFans, died at the age of forty three. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: He passed away after a long battle with cancer. The 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: company said he was a billionaire tech entrepreneur and majority 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: owner of OnlyFans, which was the subscription is the subscription 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: based platform known for their adult content. He acquired the 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: company back in twenty eighteen, and then he grew it 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: into what it has become today, built a three billion 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: dollar empire, took twenty percent of other people's art, and 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: then kept a lot for himself. So the platform, obviously 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: it made a handful of creators extremely rich and left 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: thousands other worse off than what they were before they began. 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, money could not 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: buy him time. 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this story is really you know, his passing obviously, 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: it's giving us a lot of opportunity to reflect back 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: on the platform that he purchased and really took to 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: where it is today. And it's fascinating that, you know, 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: OnlyFans what it is today was really an accident. OnlyFans 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: was started so that like you, musicians and artists and 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: content creators could have a platform to sell subscriptions so 22 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: people could buy their content so they wouldn't have to 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: rely on advertising. Look, if you're a content creator, you 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: can go on YouTube and try and monetize that, but 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: again you're living off of the advertising world. This was 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: a really one of the first platforms where people could 27 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: go and do whatever you want to do, and then 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: the consumer could easily subscribe to get more of that 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: content and get more access to it. And again, it 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: was really designed for musicians. And then COVID hit and 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, tons and tons of people were 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: without jobs, and it turned into what it is today, 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: which is essentially a porn website, so much so that 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: in twenty two, twenty twenty one, Only Fans announced that 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: they were getting rid of all the pornography on their website, 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: and then people lost their minds and all their investors 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: were like, hey, hold on a minute, we're making a 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: lot of money here. What are you talking about. 39 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: Twenty percent off of every single one, And so. 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: They changed their tact and they allow pornography on it now, 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: and that's the way it is today. But I think 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: people overlook the fact they sit here and they say, oh, 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: OnlyFans is a pornography platform. That's what it is. We 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: really shouldn't take it seriously. But it was really the 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: first major platform that gave content creators an opportunity to 46 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: monetize their content and really brought other platforms more legitimacy, 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: things like Patreon, which Patreon is not pornography based, but 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: you can go on there and people can make content 49 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: and you can subscribe to that and get more access 50 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: to content. It really kind of changed the way content 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: creators were paid. 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people are calling him a tech founder. 53 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: That is some heavy lifting for a job title. I mean, 54 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: did he really did he really? Was he a tech 55 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: inventor or was he just a disruptor? 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: Well, I think, like I said, it was an accident. 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: This only fans today is not what it was originally 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: created for. And then one day they woke up and 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: they were like, hey, people are doing a bunch of 60 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: porn on here. That's not what we wanted. And so 61 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: it was really kind of an accidental company that started 62 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: and it grew into this multi billion dollar company, and 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: you know, he was a billionaire and made tons of 64 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: other people rich. But it really, like I said, the 65 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: fact of the matter is it gets over because it's 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: a porn website, people often overlook the way it really 67 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: changed business models for individual content creators that are even 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: outside of pornography. 69 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, it is a reminder that life doesn't care about 70 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: headlines or money because he was only forty three years old, 71 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: and even if he have three billion dollars, it wasn't 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: enough to save him from cancer. And now there's a 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty about future ownership or the direction that 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: only fans may go. 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: Oh, and it's fascinating. And this has been talked about 76 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: a lot before about how pornography really does and has 77 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: historically pushed technology forward. It was pornography that really brought 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: us the VCR and brought it into everybody's homes because 79 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: there was no other way to have that, and so 80 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: it made that technological device, gave people a reason for it, 81 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: and it brought it to scale and to homes all 82 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: across America. The DVD. The DVD was driven by pornography 83 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: because I could have this in my home, and so 84 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: everybody adopted the DVD platform and obviously it became big 85 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: beyond pornography. And here's another example of pornography really being 86 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: the driver for this kind of ecosystem where content creators 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: can get paid, and that's popped up all of these 88 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: other copycats, whether it's Discord or Patreon or all these 89 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: other systems where I can create something, build a community, 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: and then sell subscriptions to people who want that content.