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Speaker 1: Hey, guess what Indianapolis ranking low on another survey. This

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Speaker 1: time it is.

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Speaker 2: Why can't we ever get based on your tone and demeanor?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say that this isn't like, this is

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Speaker 2: not good news.

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Speaker 1: Well no, I mean, you know, we're seventy second out

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Speaker 1: of one hundred, so that doesn't sound so good. That's

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Speaker 1: where Indianapolis ranks according to Street Safety from Vision Zero.

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Speaker 1: They're entering their first year. Vision zero is a plan

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Speaker 1: to aim for zero traffic deaths and serious injuries by

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Speaker 1: twenty thirty five. They're rethinking street design, policy and use.

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Speaker 1: According to them, between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: more than four hundred and fifty people died in traffic

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Speaker 1: crashes in Indianapolis. This includes pedestrians and cyclists who were

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Speaker 1: being hit at much higher rates than their share of

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Speaker 1: road use. Okay, well, you can preach safety all you want,

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Speaker 1: but when a hoosier hits a pothole the size of

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Speaker 1: a small car and gets trapped in poorly maintained intersections,

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Speaker 1: the roads themselves are actually part of.

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Speaker 2: The problem exactly. That's got to be a huge factor

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Speaker 2: into all of this. But in addition to this, this

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Speaker 2: is really just a Vision zero. It's a pr campaign.

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Speaker 2: There's no funding, there's no enforcement to this of any

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Speaker 2: of these things. I mean, you might as well just

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Speaker 2: put like a you know, a baby on board sticker

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Speaker 2: in the back of your car, because that's about the

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Speaker 2: same level of effectiveness as Vision zero is giving to it.

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Speaker 1: So the ranking is based on factors like how many

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Speaker 1: miles people drive, speeding, pedestrian risk, and truck activity. But Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: I mean, do we have a safety a street safety problem,

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Speaker 1: or do we have an infrastructure problem? And this Vision zero,

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Speaker 1: this policy framework, that's that's not going to fix it.

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Speaker 1: You're right, this is just this is just a message,

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Speaker 1: Hey be.

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Speaker 2: Careful, right all right? Oh oh well I.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't before, but now since you told me.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, exactly. Remember how effective the say no to

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Speaker 2: drugs message was in the eighties as crack and cocaine

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Speaker 2: were ravaging our inner cities. Yeah, it kind of seems

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Speaker 2: to me to be something very similar. It's just like, hey,

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Speaker 2: be careful out there. It's just like brought to you

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Speaker 2: by the Vision Zero Council, just a bunch of public

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Speaker 2: service announcements about how you should be careful when putting

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Speaker 2: absolutely no enforcement, and no funding into this project at all.