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Speaker 1: Live from Vaal Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz Today to watch the wife of Robert F.

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Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior, Cheryl Hines, take on the ladies of the

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Speaker 1: view who are not what we call I believe.

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Speaker 2: In the Latin we would say, oh, what is the translation? Smart?

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Speaker 2: Not smart?

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Speaker 1: It's really good. She handled herself. And for the record,

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Speaker 1: Cheryl Hines is a progressive. I disagree with her on

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Speaker 1: about nineteen million things. But Sonny hosted and Whoopi Goldberg

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Speaker 1: actually think they're bringing an intellectual heft to the show.

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Speaker 1: It's adorable, Tony Cats, Tony Kats Today, Good to be

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Speaker 1: with You find everything at Tony Katz dot com. This However,

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Speaker 1: before we get there is Harry Inton over at CNN

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Speaker 1: and he's got numbers, and the numbers are well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly what democrats thought.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen twenty eighteen, right, because that's sort of the baseline.

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Speaker 3: That was, of course, the first Trump term. That was

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Speaker 3: where Democrats were sort of keeping pace. You go back

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Speaker 3: to April, look at the generic congressional ballot. What you

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Speaker 3: see you see plus three Democrats in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: In April, you see plus three Democrats back in April

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Speaker 3: of twenty seventeen. Now jump over to this side of

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Speaker 3: the screen. What happens, Well, the Democrats are no longer

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Speaker 3: keeping pace with the pace that they were setting back

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Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. You look back in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 3: you saw that the Democrats had leaped up.

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Speaker 4: To an eight point advantage. I remember covering this.

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Speaker 3: I remember a lot of folks, including myself, saying, you

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Speaker 3: know what, Republicans look pretty decent right now in terms

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Speaker 3: of the fact that they had the House, they had

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Speaker 3: this under they had the presidency, but things were likely

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Speaker 3: going and a flip.

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Speaker 4: And I was looking for the same science this year.

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Speaker 3: The bottom line is it hasn't happened, Capbaul. When it

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Speaker 3: hasn't happened, Democrats have stayed, basically studied, they have fallen

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Speaker 3: off the pace.

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Speaker 2: Democrats are way out ahead.

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Speaker 3: Back in twenty seventeen on the generic congressional ballot, and

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Speaker 3: now we're basically looking at Democrats ahead.

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Speaker 4: But again they are so far in the.

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Speaker 3: Back of the pace that they set back there. And

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Speaker 3: so I think what a lot of folks are seeing.

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Speaker 3: Folks like myself are saying wait a minute, given what

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Speaker 3: we might be seeing and redistricting, is this plus.

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Speaker 4: Three going to be enough?

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Speaker 2: Capeall that's now.

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Speaker 1: As I've said before, I favor redistricting. I think redistricting

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Speaker 1: is the right move. I didn't say it wasn't ugly.

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Speaker 1: I am discussing this solely on the politics of it,

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Speaker 1: because I, like you, am a grown up and I

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Speaker 1: understand that what we're dealing with here.

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Speaker 2: Is the grown up world.

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Speaker 1: To understand the redistricting a little bit better, allow me

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Speaker 1: to introduce you to someone buy the name of Nancy Pelosi.

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Speaker 1: Trust me on this one. Trust me on this one.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi is going to explain to you, as she

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Speaker 1: did to Jensaki just yesterday, why redistricting matters so very

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Speaker 1: very much.

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Speaker 2: Mid ten year plan here. But you also don't like

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Speaker 2: to fight.

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Speaker 5: With one arm behind your back. I wouldn't have won

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Speaker 5: so many times. Do you wish other states? Do you

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Speaker 5: want other blue states to really think about this at

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Speaker 5: this point or think about a path forward, even if

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Speaker 5: it's following the same model as California with letting people

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Speaker 5: vote to do it.

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Speaker 6: People have to do what their path is. It's really

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Speaker 6: important to note. I thank you for your acknowledging what

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Speaker 6: I have done. But this was a big plan, that

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Speaker 6: is to say, in order for us to move forward,

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Speaker 6: the California Democrats had to less a plan that added

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Speaker 6: five seats, which meant members had to give up some

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Speaker 6: of their Democrats to do that. Zoe Lafgan our share

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Speaker 6: of our caucus and Pte Aguilar's share of the bigger caucus.

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Speaker 2: They they led the.

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Speaker 6: Way on this though has just been remarkable. So our

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Speaker 6: delegation had to vote for this. The state legislature, House

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Speaker 6: and Senate and leadership of Speakeribus and pro tem Leader

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Speaker 6: And then of course Kevin Newsom carried the ball down

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Speaker 6: is carrying the ball down the field, and we're very

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Speaker 6: proud of that. But everybody, since we're all into it,

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Speaker 6: people have you know, you have to own the ground

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Speaker 6: to win an election, so everybody has a vested interest

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Speaker 6: in California and doing this. So it's we had a

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Speaker 6: plan if other states have a plan to do, but

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Speaker 6: you know, we only need three seats to win. Then

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Speaker 6: came the speaker understand that, so.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I understand that.

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Speaker 1: Former Speaker at Pelosi I understand it, and that's why

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Speaker 1: I favor redistricting. Did you hear what she said? You

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Speaker 1: only need three seats to get at Keem Jefferies. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter how you get there. Get there, well Tony, California

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Speaker 1: is only redistricting because Texas.

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Speaker 2: Did who whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

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Speaker 1: That's what you keep saying, political left, but that isn't

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Speaker 1: what's happening. Texas engaged a political process. They engaged a

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Speaker 1: political process in the state of Texas, and it is

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Speaker 1: therefore up to Texas voters to decide whether or not

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Speaker 1: they accept it.

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Speaker 2: Well Tony's redistricting, You won't be able to these people out.

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Speaker 1: The redistricting is for the congressional level, a federal level,

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Speaker 1: not on the state level. You can vote out your

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Speaker 1: state representative any time you like, find a better candidate,

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Speaker 1: find a different candidate, convince people to vote in your direction.

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Speaker 1: Vote the guy out, vote the lady out. I'm not sexist,

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Speaker 1: vote a mountain. What Nancy Pelosi said is we developed

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Speaker 1: a plan. If they're going to do this in Texas,

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Speaker 1: we are proudly engaging in retribution, and we can so

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Speaker 1: manipulate the situation as to only need three more votes

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Speaker 1: to make Haquem Jeffries the speaker. Once you understand what

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Speaker 1: it is that they're doing, what this is all about,

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Speaker 1: how they're trying to take back the House and make

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Speaker 1: Hakeem Jeffries the speaker. Once you understand this and you

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Speaker 1: realize how horrible that is and that they see nothing

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Speaker 1: wrong with an active retribution to get to their goal,

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Speaker 1: and other states should follow the model of California. The

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Speaker 1: question is, for my beloved Indiana and other states, how

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Speaker 1: do you not.

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Speaker 2: This is the political fight.

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Speaker 1: People are angry with Texas because they redistricted mid decade.

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Speaker 1: See if you redistrict after the census, right after census,

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Speaker 1: and it's fine. They don't ever talk about how places

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Speaker 1: were redistricted to create these nonsense districts that look like

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Speaker 1: two octopy humping, and they think.

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Speaker 2: That that's normal.

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Speaker 1: And then they created these groups, these commissions on redistricting

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Speaker 1: to basically hold their power structure in place. And now

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Speaker 1: a stat is saying we're not doing this, and other

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Speaker 1: states are saying we're not doing this. This is wrong

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Speaker 1: to begin with, and the left has said you can't

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Speaker 1: do that, you can't do that to our pledges. Only

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Speaker 1: we could do that to our pledges. They're not shy

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Speaker 1: about it. You can argue that you don't like what

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Speaker 1: Texas did, but you can't then argue that California is

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Speaker 1: right to do it. Once California got into the game

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Speaker 1: of retribution, that's when I a guy who first asked

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Speaker 1: a question, Okay, Texas, you're doing what you're doing, And

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Speaker 1: then someone brought up my state, Indiana. I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know why Indiana would redistrict. There are nine congressional

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Speaker 1: districts here, Republicans controlled seven. I don't know if you're

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Speaker 1: a district anything. Well, once you see California, you're like,

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Speaker 1: of course your redistrict. Now there's a downside.

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Speaker 2: You can lose.

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Speaker 1: You can redistrict that still lose the seat. Of course,

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Speaker 1: this is politics, this is real stuff. Nothing is guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't make the effort, I think you're nuts.

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Speaker 1: Because Nancy Pelosi is gonna try and make that effort

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Speaker 1: in every state she can. Republicans need to grow up.

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Speaker 1: This is the world we live in, not some world

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Speaker 1: where you're above at all.

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Speaker 2: No, this is how we do it. Oh, we have

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Speaker 2: to be nicer. Would you please get a hold of yourselves.

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Speaker 1: Look at the history of the last fifty years, look

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Speaker 1: at the presidency of Donald Trump, look at the indictments

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Speaker 1: against him.

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Speaker 2: Then remember the fight that you're in.

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Speaker 1: It's at this moment the rose colored glasses need to

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Speaker 1: come off and reality needs to kick you in the

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Speaker 1: face so hard you lose a tooth.

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Speaker 2: This is the fight. Time to get to it.

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Speaker 4: Back to.

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Speaker 1: Harry Enton talking about where Democrats are in the polling

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Speaker 1: right now, far below where they were in the midterms

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Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen, comparing that Trump one to Trump two,

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Speaker 1: when Republicans have power and where Democrats were, Let it continue.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask.

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Speaker 5: One change from that cycle is also this mid decade

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Speaker 5: redistricting effort that we've been covering so much.

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Speaker 4: Add that in and what do you guess.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we add that and we take a look

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Speaker 3: at the national picture. But then we' of course taking

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Speaker 3: a look at the state legislators. Right they are potentially

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Speaker 3: changing things. And there are two things that are going

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Speaker 3: on here. First off, mid decade redistricting gains. If both

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Speaker 3: gains possible than Democratic ags. Yes, the Democrats might try

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Speaker 3: Different states and basically Democrats run out of room where

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Speaker 3: both sides max out, we're probably looking at a GOP

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Speaker 4: Plus seven House seats.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't even take into account the potential gutting of

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Speaker 3: the VRA that is right now going to be in

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Speaker 3: front of the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 4: If you add that in, you.

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Speaker 3: It would be looking, yes, exactly right, the voting rightsack.

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Speaker 3: If you add that in, then you could be looking

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Speaker 3: about adding ten, twelve, fifteen, seventeen on top of this

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Speaker 3: seven seats. So I think a lot of folks like

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Speaker 3: myself are looking at this. We're seeing, hey, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: those national polls are Democrats are not gaining the way

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Speaker 3: that we expected.

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Speaker 1: So the question before us is if Harry Anton could

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Speaker 1: do the math. And I think Harry Anton's very good

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Speaker 1: at this, by the way, and I applaud a CNN

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Speaker 1: for giving him such a front and under opportunities to engage.

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Speaker 1: So honestly, why in the world would any Democrat want

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Speaker 1: California to do it?

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Speaker 2: Here's what happened. California jumped the gun.

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Speaker 1: California decided it was the same old, same old, and

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Speaker 1: they could just turn these Republicans into mush, make them

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Speaker 1: cower in fear and not do anything. And everyone on

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Speaker 1: social media could scream and yell and holler and covetch

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Speaker 1: and do all the things. Oh, you just want to

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Speaker 1: waste people's money. You're not really a physical conservative. Oh

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Speaker 1: you just can't win on ideas.

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Speaker 2: You're such a coward. I mean, just follow my social

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Speaker 2: media feed.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of people who have never gotten out of

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Speaker 1: their basements are screen at me. They think that can work,

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Speaker 1: because well, it always has. The numbers don't line up

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Speaker 1: for them. If Republicans recognize what's happening and act accordingly.

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Speaker 1: These are all political processes, and these states can redistrict

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Speaker 1: two hours after, they redistrict two weeks two years after,

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Speaker 1: of course they can. They could do something, then move it,

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Speaker 1: and then move it again and move it again. It's

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Speaker 1: a political process, and the people could decide whether they

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Cats today.

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Speaker 8: Your husband when he announced basically that he believed he

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Speaker 4: Very different, this is the view.

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: And that's Alisa Pharah asking the question who She said,

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Speaker 1: You're not a medical professional. Why don't you go give

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Speaker 1: You want political commentary, listen to me. You want to laugh,

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Speaker 1: He's not a doctor. Ninety percent were in doctors. Well

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Speaker 1: they're scientists. Well no, they're not all scientists. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: most were scientists. This is the argument that the View

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Speaker 1: put forward to Cheryl Hines. Raw vote to her in

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Speaker 1: handling that with with grace. Anyone who gets their medical

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Speaker 1: advice or medical opinions from Sonny Hostin, Whoop be Goldberg

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Speaker 1: or the View is playing Russian Roulette with their health.

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Speaker 1: You have to be out of your mind to trust them.

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Speaker 1: They just proved it again. Meanwhile, I don't think one

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Speaker 1: should stay silent when even people on the political right

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Speaker 1: are acting the part of damn fools. This Politico story,

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Speaker 1: the fallout and why it all matters, and how.

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Speaker 2: It connects to the left. That's coming up next. This

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Speaker 2: is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: So Politico had the story leaked messages exposed young Republicans

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Speaker 1: racist chat.

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Speaker 2: It's really gross.

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Speaker 1: First on the idea of it's stupidity, Tony Katz Tony

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Speaker 1: Kats Today. Anything that you text will eventually come out.

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Speaker 1: If I taught my kids anything that I hope sticks.

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Speaker 1: Never take a nude picture of yourself and send it

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Speaker 1: to someone. It will show up on a website. It

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Speaker 1: will be used against you. Haven't we seen enough of this? Yes,

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Speaker 1: the people who do that are wrong. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna get used against you.

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Speaker 1: So there, the Politico people were able to get text messages,

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Speaker 1: thousands of private messages, private messages.

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Speaker 2: Referring to people as the N word, talking about rape

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Speaker 2: as epic. It goes on and on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: Some of these people were connected to Alistaphonic it's not

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Speaker 1: good for her and that she's running for governor of

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Speaker 1: New York. These things are all going to have a

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Speaker 1: level of ramifications it's ugly stuff, Hitler references.

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Speaker 2: I love Hitler references.

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Speaker 1: Just it's just stupid, and yes, some of it's ugly

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Speaker 1: and some of it's obscene one thousand percent.

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Speaker 2: I do not have to protect these people. I do

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Speaker 2: not have to rally around them.

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Speaker 1: Some of them, many of them, if not all of them,

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Speaker 1: are going to be fired from positions. And the young

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Speaker 1: Republicans or the Republicans of this group or that group,

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Speaker 1: absolutely they're gonna get fired. Now, this is different than

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Speaker 1: what would happen on the political left, where you don't

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Speaker 1: always get fired, and very often you don't get fired.

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Speaker 2: They don't even pay attention to it. So there's an argument.

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Speaker 1: I saw Matt Walsh making this argument that we're supposed

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Speaker 1: to rally around these people, and yet Republicans attack their own.

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Speaker 1: These ain't my own. What we're supposed to be rallied

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Speaker 1: around United on is policy. A guy who's referring to

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Speaker 1: people as this, that and the other engaged in gross talk,

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Speaker 1: I gotta protect them. I don't think I have to

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Speaker 1: do that. Matt, You're wrong. What we should do is

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Speaker 1: say we believe in a policy like, for example, men

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Speaker 1: are not women and women are not men. And we

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Speaker 1: should never relent. But if someone out there is messaging

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Speaker 1: to people bigotry, we don't have to rally around that guy.

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Speaker 1: The hell's wrong with you? What the hell's wrong with

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Speaker 1: anybody would think that that's possible. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: rally around them. Because this is exactly what the Democrats

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Speaker 1: have done regarding Jay Jones, the Democratic candidate for Attorney

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Speaker 1: General in Virginia who texted that he wanted to kill

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Speaker 1: the then Speaker of the House and that guy's kids,

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Speaker 1: and the Wrights said that's disgusting. He should get out

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Speaker 1: of the race, and Democrats said, we support him. Abigail Spamberger,

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Speaker 1: who is running for governor against Winsome Earl Sears, her name,

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Speaker 1: first name, win some last name, Earl Sears, she won't

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Speaker 1: condemn him, she won't stop endorsing him. How in the

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Speaker 1: world am I able to share that that's of scene

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Speaker 1: and then take a look at the guy who calls

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Speaker 1: himself a Republican and is calling people the N word

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Speaker 1: and talking about Jews and gas chambers and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not paying attention to that.

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Speaker 2: Of course I'm paying attention to that. You don't want it.

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Speaker 1: I would if I was running for office, and that

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Speaker 1: was one of my people. The video would be of

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Speaker 1: me physically throwing the guy out.

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Speaker 2: Of a window. It would be a first floor window.

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Speaker 1: But still, who would ever protect it, who would ever

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Speaker 1: support it?

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Speaker 2: And why would anybody actually write it?

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that, as gross as some of

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Speaker 1: these statements are, I'm so insulted by the stupidity of

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Speaker 1: writing it.

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Speaker 2: It's like when people do sexting. I'm like, what what, what,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing? It's gonna get used against you.

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Speaker 1: Good lord, I would fire them for the rank stupidity. Now,

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Speaker 1: how did Politico get access to these things? Twenty nine

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Speaker 1: hundred pages of chats? Somebody leaked it? Did you actually

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Speaker 1: think you could trust everybody? Never put anything in a

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Speaker 1: text you wouldn't say, Never put anything in a text

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Want to be read in a courtroom. Well, Tony, you

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Speaker 2: believe in censorship, No, I believe in being normal.

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Speaker 1: Never say anything on a telephone that you wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: utilized against you in a Rico case.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Maybe I grew up differently than other people.

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Speaker 2: That is very, very possible, the idea.

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Speaker 1: That I shouldn't look at these people and say they

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Speaker 1: are dopey, they are gross.

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Speaker 2: Of course you should. Well you're not, You're not, you know,

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Speaker 2: rallying around Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Democrats always rally around their people, yes, and that's what

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Speaker 1: makes them so disgusting. Elano Mahr says about Jews, it's

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Speaker 1: all about the Benjamins. Ra cheated to Lee, wants a wife,

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Speaker 1: Israel off the map, and they still defend those two.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Andre Carson of Indianapolis for first to Lewis fire

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Speaker 1: konn and as his friend and will not denounce his bigotry,

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Speaker 1: and the Democrats still rally around him. That's the difference.

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Speaker 2: They not like us.

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Speaker 1: And if we are not capable of saying, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: gotta go, you guys, spend some time and time out,

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Speaker 1: then learn from it and come back a better person.

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Speaker 1: Because I believe in redemption, we're not willing to say

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Speaker 1: that we're not serious. We already know the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: isn't serious on this subject, and I think that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be helpful going to November of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kats