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Speaker 1: down in WIBC lore. So we got a variety of

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Speaker 2: And we have many many you.

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Speaker 1: And now it's a whole thing where people in state

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Speaker 2: Which do nothing.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that the most Diego Morales thing? Ever, Yes, we're

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Speaker 3: Okay, So it looks like it has is that the

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Speaker 2: What's on this point seal? The state emblem the state seal.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay, so it says Diego Morales sixty third

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Speaker 2: See the dude was like, look, that's got some weight

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Speaker 2: I know what they cost. I know what those costs.

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Speaker 1: These are ever a bit as nice as those, he said,

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Speaker 3: Coins, because he bought it in bulk. He got got

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Speaker 3: So did he buy enough for every single Hoosier? I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: This was this guy's point he's like, I just met him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But he's said, here's how it works. He comes into

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Speaker 2: His tax stars to promote himself.

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Speaker 1: Campaigning twenty four hours a day, seven days a week.

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Speaker 3: Great, and it's got his name on it. So this

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Speaker 3: it's like franked mail is what this is. It's like

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Speaker 3: It should say taxpayer on it. Yes, Whosure, here's a

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Speaker 1: That the Capitol Chronicle had, And I was really hesitant

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Speaker 1: to give that to you because you know how I

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid it's like a horse crux from Harry Potter.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, bad things might happen.

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Speaker 1: But I like the world of you, Casey Well, based

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Speaker 1: on your morning, don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it already. I think it's

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Speaker 1: He allegedly told the Winchester Journal Gazette. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: And this is in the Indiana Capitol Chronicle article. I said,

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Speaker 1: if someday I have an opportunity to do that, I will.

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Speaker 1: Now that I'm an elected official, I'm able to do

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Speaker 1: my own challenge coin. This is my way for me

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Speaker 1: to say, specifically for my team, thank you.

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Speaker 2: For your team, thank you. How About you be transparent.

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Speaker 2: How about that's a way to say thank you.

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Speaker 1: How About you start by giving a damn about the

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Speaker 1: people who pay for you to do all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: and you can start on that starting by telling us

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Speaker 1: you want to say thanks to me, Diego? How about

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Speaker 1: you be transparent. How about you tell me who paid

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Speaker 3: So the fact that he's got his name on here,

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Speaker 3: it's just a piece of promotion in his eyes. So

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Speaker 3: the challenge coins that are for the military, it degrades

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Speaker 3: their meaning of those totally, is what it does.

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Speaker 1: And these lawmakers are all doing this now, like the

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Speaker 1: some of these the lawmakers are paying for them themselves

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Speaker 1: in the Capitol Chronicle article, like I think the Senate

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Speaker 1: give the option to use their template, but the senators

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Speaker 1: are paying for this campaign accounts whatever. There's nothing in

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Speaker 1: this are funded by grants. Well, as long as it's

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Speaker 1: not taxpayer sure. My issue is if it comes into

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Speaker 2: And I've seen nothing in here in this story.

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Speaker 1: You've read it too that would lead you to believe

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Speaker 1: But of course, as with everything else with Diego, you

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Speaker 1: simply don't know because he won't tell you