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Speaker 1: This is track Side with Kirk Cavan and Kevin Lee

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Speaker 1: on ninety three to.

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Speaker 2: Five and one oh seven five, the fans.

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Speaker 3: Cupping up account what the air that's valivable.

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Speaker 2: Incredible and the racks the ritz a story for Indiana

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Speaker 2: football comes the conclusion and they are the national champions

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Speaker 2: of two thousand and twenty six.

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Speaker 1: What a football team. This is still a motorsports show,

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Speaker 1: and there's plenty to get to tonight, but we're in

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Speaker 1: Indiana and we'll play the hits, which I think has

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Speaker 1: been the conversation all day long on the radio station.

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Speaker 1: So we start with our friend Don Fisher not only

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Speaker 1: to call from the IU Radio network from last night's

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Speaker 1: national championship game, but Don also called the last perfect

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Speaker 1: basketball team in the college world nineteen seventy six. So

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Speaker 1: that's the grainy highlight you heard from there. Don has

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Speaker 1: been the voice of the Hoosiers since nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 1: And we will start tonight with what's the IndyCar indy

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Speaker 1: five hundred equivalents to what Indiana University's football program has

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Speaker 1: done with the most losses of any program ever entering

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Speaker 1: this season to winning the national title and turning it

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Speaker 1: around in just two years. Oh, there's racing stuff. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to a lot of that coming up. Track side

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Speaker 1: ninety three to five, one oh seven to five of

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Speaker 1: the fan in Indianapolis, Kevin Lee, Kirk cavin landon koons

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Speaker 1: Is in our studio. We were up past our bedtime.

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Speaker 1: I assume you were last year watching, Yeah, to the

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Speaker 1: finish post game and all of that. Race fans. We

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Speaker 1: won't spend time on this, and then we'll get to

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Speaker 1: the racing equivalent. But I just saw this stat this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Indiana football before this season against top ten teams was

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Speaker 1: six one hundred and sixteen and one. They won six

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Speaker 1: out of one hundred and twenty three times. They went

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Speaker 1: six and oh this season. So that's kind of why

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Speaker 1: everybody's making a big deal about this. This is the

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Speaker 1: most remarkable story I can come up with. And when

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Speaker 1: people are looking for examples, they're mostly coming for upsets,

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Speaker 1: you know, is it Buster Douglas or the miracle on

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Speaker 1: long droughts like the Cubs and the Red Sox. But

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Speaker 1: that's not this at all. But one, this wasn't an

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Speaker 1: upset because this team has been good all year, But

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Speaker 1: we're just kind of looking at where they were at,

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Speaker 1: and it's not like the Cubs in the Red Sox

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Speaker 1: were not competitive at times over the years. Indiana has

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Speaker 1: been competitive a few times, but when I say I

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Speaker 1: mean a few, it's probably like six or seven seasons

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Speaker 1: up with anything like this Kurt in Sports. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I ask if there is an Indy Car comparison

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Speaker 1: over the years, and I can't come up with anything

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Speaker 3: No, And before I answer it, I'll just say it's

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Speaker 3: also been really celebrated here because we've had this long

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Speaker 3: run of title games gone bad across the sports landscape.

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Speaker 3: The Pacers come to mind. Just last year. Of course,

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Speaker 3: Perdue got to the National Championship Game. Two years ago,

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Speaker 3: the Colts lost to Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Football's lost a couple here in the last fifteen to

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Speaker 3: twenty years, and Butler lost two National Championship games. We

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Speaker 3: saw the Hoosiers lose in two thousand and two to Maryland,

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Speaker 3: so there has been a string of While the Colts

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Speaker 3: Justin Wilson had a period of success and Sebastian Boordat

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Speaker 3: They've not won the Indy five hundred. They did look

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Speaker 3: Bill Pappas, who thought that that that year on that

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Speaker 3: unfair to Dale Coins because that's they haven't been as

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Speaker 1: Thought about the five hundred as well. But here's the difference.

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Speaker 1: To win a national championship is a season long. It's

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Speaker 1: massive surprises winning the Daytona five hundred, because it's just random.

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Speaker 3: They kicked their butts. They did every week, weekend, week out. Yes,

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Speaker 3: It's that tells you how uncompetitive everyone else was. So

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Speaker 1: Well, I just want to start with that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: some are not coming back. We already know twelve of

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Speaker 1: You don't have to change anything. Things will be archived.

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Speaker 1: You can go back. Starts at one thirty Eastern time

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Speaker 1: as well. You know Toby hasn't He's hoping for the

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Speaker 1: coin situation. That's the simplest. But I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of this has to do with Premo as well. There

432
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Speaker 1: are rumblings out there that a Premo were to go away.

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Speaker 1: That opens up an opportunity for those that don't know.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five charters and then two more at large are allowed,

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Speaker 1: and then beyond that you have to qualify. So if

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Speaker 1: someone wanted to run an extra car, it would be

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Speaker 1: two for three going for the two spots. If Penske

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Speaker 1: put out a fourth car, or Primo decided to run

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Speaker 1: a third car, you know they'd be battling amongst themselves.

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Speaker 1: But if those two go away, two more entries would

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Speaker 1: be guaranteed to make every race. So might another team.

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Speaker 1: Would a driver that brings sponsorship decide to run an

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Speaker 1: extra car for select races or Dryer and Rainbould has

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Speaker 1: talked about we're thinking about it. We'd like to come

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Speaker 1: back and maybe we get our toe in the water again.

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Speaker 1: Might they do a few races? I think the only

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Speaker 1: scenario that happens is a Prema goes away. I would

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Speaker 1: not bring a new program out trying to out qualify them,

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Speaker 1: no matter the fact that they need to still hire

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Speaker 1: some people because some left in the off season. They

451
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Speaker 1: have a year up on you, and I would not

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Speaker 1: like my chances if I'm a basically start up team

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Speaker 1: to beat them in qualifying.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, I don't think you would consider Dryan Reinbould a

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Speaker 3: startup team.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are on these other race tracks because

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Speaker 1: they haven't done them in fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree, But there are some places. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you could go run Phoenix, you know, wouldn't like my chances? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: probably not. You're probably right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, unless you just have somebody that

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Speaker 1: has no concern of writing you a check and not

463
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Speaker 1: getting a return, meeting the race car in the race,

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Speaker 1: those are not fantastic odds. Short ovals are tough. I

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Speaker 1: would not advise anyone to try to out a team

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Speaker 1: that was on the grid last year, even if they

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Speaker 1: did have their challenges and and don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of experience on short ovals. The only short oval you

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Speaker 1: give them a chance.

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Speaker 3: But the only other caveat that I would add to

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Speaker 3: it is there are a lot of smart people running

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Speaker 3: around right now who who don't have jobs. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're just are people. I'm not saying you couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: I brought up Bill Papas while ago. You know, he

475
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Speaker 3: doesn't work for IndyCar anymore. He's been an engineer his

476
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Speaker 3: whole life. What if somebody said we're going to run

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Speaker 3: into Bill Pappas is going to be our engineer. Sure

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Speaker 3: you're telling me that he doesn't have enough knowledge to

479
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Speaker 3: pull off, you know, a twenty fifth qualifying spot at

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Speaker 3: Phoenix or out qualify somebody, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So he does, he does the other people to help.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, good start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I'm just saying it's not there's so much

484
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Speaker 3: knowledge that has We've talked about this. You know, people

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Speaker 3: talk about speck racing, but there are spec what I

486
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Speaker 3: would call spec people, And yes, everybody wants the same

487
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Speaker 3: elite engineers, but the knowledge of how these cars work

488
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Speaker 3: has flowed through the system so long that I think

489
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Speaker 3: you could think you'd be better shaped than what you what.

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Speaker 3: Maybe otherwise qualifying twenty fifth might not get it, might

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Speaker 3: not get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it. It only matters if the PREMI cars

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Speaker 1: are the two slowest cars. Absolutely everybody else is locked in.

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Speaker 1: If they happen to be fourteenth and fifteenth, you've got

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Speaker 1: to be thirteenth, I know. And that's that's a taller task,

496
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Speaker 1: and that is a big unknown. All right, Colton Hurdap

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that next. And will Power,

498
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Speaker 1: How motivated is will power, and there's still some things

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Speaker 1: we don't know of how everything went down. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that next track side ninety three five one oh

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Speaker 1: seven five The Fan. Hi, this is Alexander Rossi and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to trackside. It's an earlier edition of tonight.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you caught us. If not, that's what the podcast

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Speaker 1: is there for. We're back to seven o'clock Eastern time

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday Night. Ninety three five, one oh seven five

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Speaker 1: The Fan. The role X twenty four coming up this weekend. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a chance to get to visit with a lot

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Speaker 1: of IndyCar people see what we learn. A few nuggets

509
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Speaker 1: have come out of there and we've not even hit

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Speaker 1: the ground yet. I'll be there tomorrow and looking forward

511
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Speaker 1: to talking to some people. I mentioned David Land has

512
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Speaker 1: done a lot of interviews on his YouTube channel, and

513
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Speaker 1: he asked a question that we've all been wanting to ask,

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Speaker 1: Colden Hurda, are you doing the Indy five hundred next year?

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Speaker 1: And Colden's response was I want to do it, but

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Speaker 1: it's something we're still trying to figure out. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions, a lot of people have to

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Speaker 1: say yes, and as we've talked about before you know,

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Speaker 1: you've got he's a Cadillac driver and this is a Honda.

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Speaker 1: Is that going to be a question? He mentioned there's

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Speaker 1: a chance that I get hurt, so that plays into it.

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Speaker 1: Part of it is we don't know the dynamics of

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Speaker 1: his contracts. Is he fully paid by Cadillac now or

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Speaker 1: is he paid by TWG and Dan Towers. If he

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Speaker 1: is a TWG Dan Towers employee, I think this becomes

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Speaker 1: a lot easier because this is good for Dan Towers

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Speaker 1: and it would happen if Dan Towers wants to happen. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think he would still ask Cadillac, are you okay

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Speaker 1: with this? But he's not a Cadillac F one driver.

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Speaker 1: He is a He's not he's a test driver. He's

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Speaker 1: not the reserve driver. Correct, he is the test driver.

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Speaker 1: They have a reserve driver, so Cadillac would have a say.

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Speaker 1: But I have to think they can get buy that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that. So that still adds some intrigue.

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Speaker 1: And if you watch this interview and no Colton, he's

536
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Speaker 1: generally pretty honest, and he sold me that this is

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Speaker 1: still a little bit up in the air at this point.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's just using those legitimate reasons because they're not

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Speaker 1: ready to announce it. Maybe they want to see how

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Speaker 1: the season starts, at least with F two testing, and

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Speaker 1: they have a backup plan for the ND five hundred.

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Speaker 1: I say, I'm glad they're going to drag this out

543
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Speaker 1: a little bit because it's fun discussion.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a TWG employee, and I think if

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Speaker 3: he would think would think so. I would think that

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Speaker 3: if the part about more people need to sign off

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Speaker 3: on it, not because he's under contract necessarily technically to them,

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Speaker 3: but because what he says, what if I get hurt?

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Speaker 3: I mean, how does that impact? And he could getting

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Speaker 3: hurt could just be breaking your wrist, I mean, which

551
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Speaker 3: could be problematic in his day job. But you know,

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Speaker 3: Cole is very easy to read from my perspective. You know,

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Speaker 3: when he's ticked off, you know when he's in a

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Speaker 3: good mood. You you can read Colton, I mean will

555
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Speaker 3: Power the same way. But Colton Colton's He's pretty pretty transparent,

556
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Speaker 3: and I think that that is accurate. I just think

557
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Speaker 3: they have some things to work out. Some people have

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Speaker 3: to say yes, and they're probably a little squeamish about

559
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Speaker 3: it because you know they're European and they don't want to.

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Speaker 3: They're not used to the Ovals Indy, So you know,

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Speaker 3: I think there's some people that would have to sign

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Speaker 3: up on that.

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Speaker 1: What's the backup plan? That's a great seat.

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Speaker 3: It is a great seat, and that's why I think

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Speaker 3: I think it's maybe Connor Daily announced with Ray Hall. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's either Side or Connor Daily. Connor's

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Speaker 3: been there, So.

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Speaker 1: I asked Connor, and I'm going to share this because

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Speaker 1: he basically said the same thing on his podcast in

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Speaker 1: November when he was just opening up that it's not

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Speaker 1: looking great. Dale Coyn won't return my calls. We have budget,

572
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Speaker 1: but we don't know where we're going to take it.

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Speaker 1: And he said, I've been getting the question a lot,

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Speaker 1: and this is before I had talked to him about

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Speaker 1: Andretti and his line. His answer was something like, they

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Speaker 1: have a lot of people in the family ahead of me.

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Speaker 1: So one that's Colton Harda, he's in the family. Who

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Speaker 1: else is in the family of Andretti drivers or of

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Speaker 1: associations with Andretti ahead of him? So I spent the

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Speaker 1: weekend at the Fox Seminar with James Hinchcliffe and purposely

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Speaker 1: did not ask him anything about this because he'd probably

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Speaker 1: just shut it down and say no, there's no chance.

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Speaker 1: But I still think. I don't think it's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: but I'm telling you there should be a chance. It

585
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Speaker 1: might be option number three, but Colton might have Colt

586
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Speaker 1: Connor may have already agreed to something. Don't know what

587
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Speaker 1: his deal is. I think we are getting other Indy

588
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: five hundred announcements one off announcements for Content Day next week.

589
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's multiples, but I think we

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Speaker 1: will have at least one more announcement and maybe more

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Speaker 1: than that next week. Is he one of them? No

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Speaker 1: idea if he is or not. But if Sodo is

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Speaker 1: not available, and there's even more reason for ray Hall

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Speaker 1: to want him because he could help mentor another former

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Speaker 1: Formula One driver making the transition to ovals in Mick Schumacher,

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Speaker 1: James Hinchcliffe would tick a lot of boxes if Fox

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Speaker 1: would allow it. Didn't ask my bosses either if he

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Speaker 1: would be allowed to do this. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: would have been super keen on it in year one,

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Speaker 1: but maybe they would be in year two. So I

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Speaker 1: think Colton is doing it. I think that will be

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Speaker 1: worked out. But I do not think that is a

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Speaker 1: bad backup plan could be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't at this point, I just don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that Hinch. I think I'd take Connor

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Speaker 3: over Hinch. We don't know that Connor is available. I

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Speaker 3: understand in this scenario.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to hold out as long as

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Speaker 1: they can for Colton Hurda, Yeah, I think they want

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Speaker 1: him to do this. And as Colton said, I plan

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Speaker 1: on finishing my career in IndyCar. You know, I know

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00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: things don't last for a long time, and even if

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Speaker 1: I do race and Formula One for ten years, I

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Speaker 1: want to come back and finish my career as an

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Speaker 1: IndyCar driver, and I want to do the Indy five hundred.

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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing for him, but I want to do it

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Speaker 1: as much as I can. The shorter amount of time

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing the Indy five hundred, the better I

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Speaker 1: will be for it, and the more chances I will

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Speaker 1: have to win that race. If he does get to

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Speaker 1: Formula one and twenty seven, he's not doing the Indy

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Speaker 1: five hundred that year. This is his. If all goes well,

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Speaker 1: his last chance to do the Indy five hundred for

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Speaker 1: a while. Never will it line up like him for

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Speaker 1: him to do this again. Agreed, Agreed.

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Speaker 3: I think Colton, Okay, Colton makes the most sense, but

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Speaker 3: I'd probably go with Connor with a chance to win

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Speaker 3: the Indy five hundred overhanch if he's available.

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Speaker 1: If he's available, yeah, how long is he and that'd

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Speaker 1: be Oh what a decision that would be for Connor.

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Speaker 1: You know, if they can't guarantee you anything. And Dryan

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Speaker 1: Reinboldt says, we're not waiting until March. We're announcing. I

633
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Speaker 1: think Dryan hinbold will announce pretty soon and so he.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's been offered the seat, but

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Speaker 1: if he was, I'm going to guess they want to

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Speaker 1: know asap. I've heard Catherine Nate Legg's name mentioned around.

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Speaker 1: You know, she's got some budget attached to her.

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Speaker 3: And she has said and she has said she's still

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Speaker 3: working toward that for this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Fascinating. All right to will Power. Now, you think

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Speaker 1: he's motivated. You see it in his comments over the

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Speaker 1: week and the question and the unknown. We talk about

643
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Speaker 1: unknowns that are still out there and a part of

644
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Speaker 1: this idea came from a Jennifriar Associated Press story and

645
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Speaker 1: it starts off with spurning a return to Penske did

646
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: not sit well with the boss, who held power to

647
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: a contract that ran through December thirty first and essentially

648
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: parked him from starting with Andretti until the first of

649
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Speaker 1: the year. So my question is, and jenn is pretty

650
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: good about learning things, so there's probably something to this,

651
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Speaker 1: But did Penske hold that contract and make him not

652
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Speaker 1: do anything out of spite because they were mad that

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Speaker 1: he didn't take their late August one year extension offer,

654
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Speaker 1: or was it we don't want to set the precedent

655
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Speaker 1: for the next person who leaves for whatever reason at

656
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Speaker 1: the end of the year to go start and start

657
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Speaker 1: sharing our secrets.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's some of both, And really I

659
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Speaker 3: think it's more of something in the middle of why

660
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Speaker 3: give an opponent a head start and we hold I

661
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Speaker 3: mean he held team managers to that he held I mean,

662
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Speaker 3: not Kyle Moyer, but apparently did Ron Razuski. You know,

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Speaker 3: there is others in the paddock who have worked for

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Speaker 3: organizations who had to sit down for a while to

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Speaker 3: their contract. You know, language disappeared, and I think it's

666
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Speaker 3: as simple as that. I don't think I could be wrong.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Roger did this one out of spite.

668
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Speaker 3: I just don't think that's why you do it. I

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Speaker 3: do think it just made sense from a competitive standpoint

670
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Speaker 3: not to let them have a head start with a

671
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Speaker 3: very talented and savvy and knowledgeable former employee.

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Speaker 1: That's where I lean to. With no knowledge or information

673
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Speaker 1: other than just my guestimate, I'd love to know the

674
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Speaker 1: truth serum as did they really want will to accept

675
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Speaker 1: that one year offer or did this really work out

676
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Speaker 1: the best way? Because remember, the owner of that team

677
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Speaker 1: owns the series. In my mind, it's good for the

678
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Speaker 1: owner of the series to have will Power racing an IndyCar.

679
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Speaker 1: He is interesting. It's hard to be really good and

680
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Speaker 1: to be interesting. And now if he says something or

681
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Speaker 1: does something outrageous, you don't really have to answer for it.

682
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Speaker 1: Double birds wherever you want, buddy, You're not on our

683
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Speaker 1: payroll anymore. One will have to answer a call from

684
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Speaker 1: Verizon the next time that happens. If indeed Verizon even cared,

685
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Speaker 1: don't know, but I felt like this, if they wanted him,

686
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Speaker 1: they had all year to sign him, and maybe it

687
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Speaker 1: got to a point Will, You're obviously still good. So yeah,

688
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Speaker 1: we've got a little bit of an issue here. We've

689
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Speaker 1: got three drivers, We've got four drivers in three cars.

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Speaker 1: But you deserve to be in the series. We want

691
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Speaker 1: you in the series. We're going to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Oh you've got another option. Fantastic Now. I don't think

693
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Speaker 1: Will feels that way because I think he would have

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Speaker 1: probably said that. We've never heard him say they blessed

695
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Speaker 1: it and moved on. So I don't know what the

696
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Speaker 1: plan was. Was it to keep David Malucas at Foight

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Speaker 1: for one more year. Was it thinking Prema was going

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Speaker 1: to go away and we're just going to run four cars,

699
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Speaker 1: or we're going to run forward one of them. We're

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Speaker 1: going to go home every single week? Or was it

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Speaker 1: was it Will was going to go run for aj

702
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Speaker 1: Foyd Racing this year with a Penske engineer.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a matter of convenience for them.

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Speaker 3: The other reason it's I don't think there's SPIKEE involved.

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Speaker 3: Is I work in the wilk Power conference room at

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Speaker 3: the Speedway. A lot of people know that, including Roger Penske,

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Speaker 3: who's been in here many times.

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Speaker 1: If the will Conference Will Power Conference.

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Speaker 3: Room needed to go away out of spite with all

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Speaker 3: the Penske memorabilia they would have, it would have been

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Speaker 3: gone the next day.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think that would go. Come on, Well,

713
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Speaker 1: he's won more races than anyone on that team ever ever.

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Speaker 3: Come on, So when when spite is involved by by someone, well.

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Speaker 1: There are different levels of spite. It might okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't think. I don't. I don't think they were in spite.

717
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't either. I think it worked out well for Penske.

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00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that they are happy that he

719
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Speaker 1: is still a part of the series, just like igen

720
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Speaker 1: that they were happy for Elio Castro Nevez when he

721
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: won his fourth Iny five hundred. They wanted Elio to

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Speaker 1: continue it just it wasn't working out. We didn't have

723
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Speaker 1: a place for you anymore. Fantastic someone else does and

724
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: it helped the sport. It did, It did well. It's

725
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: going to be fun. It's going to be fun. But

726
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: not everyone, obviously, some think that there is spite involved

727
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: in that, and then they're just quotes in there. You know,

728
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Speaker 1: there there's nothing more I want to do this year

729
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: than beat Penske. Every single weekend.

730
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Speaker 3: Now, now keep in mind we just talked about being

731
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Speaker 3: Will being transparent. Will is the kind of guy who creates,

732
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Speaker 3: creates motivation from within. I mean he can.

733
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Speaker 1: Kind of great athletes do.

734
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Speaker 3: He just kind of creates these environments sometimes in his head.

735
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Speaker 3: You've watched it happen. That's just who he is.

736
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Speaker 1: Many do. Michael Jordan lived his life that way. I

737
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: get it, made things up in his mind.

738
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Speaker 3: But Will particularly is good at making things up in

739
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Speaker 3: his mind. So and we love him for it.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be great. Another question answered we learned

741
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Speaker 1: from the role x from Sportscard three sixty five. Who's

742
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: going to be a Penske IndyCar engineer. So that's one

743
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Speaker 1: of the things I wanted to know is how are

744
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Speaker 1: they replacing the Ben Bretzman of the world. Raoul Prados

745
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: and some IndyCar fans will remember him. He's been running.

746
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Speaker 1: He's been one of the engineers on the Porsche Penske

747
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Speaker 1: program the last few years. So sports Car three sixty

748
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Speaker 1: five just had a note that he was moving over

749
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Speaker 1: to IndyCar, and then Marshall Prude at Racer got the

750
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Speaker 1: confirmation that he is going to be McLaughlin's engineer. So

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Speaker 1: Raoul is very very talented. He was an IndyCar previously

752
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Speaker 1: worked with Penske, had done their one off cars. I'd

753
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: see him back and forth. He ran the Miles Row

754
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: program in USF two thousand, so I remember having dinner

755
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Speaker 1: with him when my son Jackson and Miles were testing

756
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: for the first time at Seabring. And then he's been

757
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: in the Porsche camp. You know. One thought on that

758
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: side is I think this is the last year of

759
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: that contract between Porsche and Penske. And from first moving

760
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: Jonathan Dogood over to oversee the entire thing. Now he's

761
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: still running the sports car program. Now taking one of

762
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Speaker 1: your top engineers, is that going to go away? Maybe?

763
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Speaker 1: Maybe not, because they do have some depth. Brandon Frye

764
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Speaker 1: is an engineer who worked at ray Hall on the

765
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Speaker 1: sports car side is and he's worked in Indy Car before, sure,

766
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Speaker 1: but he was there as an extra engineer sort of

767
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: a technical director. And now he can engineer one of

768
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Speaker 1: the cars as well. But we don't know who is

769
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: going to engineer a new Garden, but that's one of

770
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Speaker 1: the answers. So Raoul Prados is very well regarded and

771
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: that is a strong signing there. What else? Oh SOO.

772
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Speaker 1: I went out to LA for some Fox meetings and

773
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: I'd say team building. We race golf carts. I almost

774
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: tipped James Hinchcliffe over, but we survived in that. Jamie Little,

775
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: of course won. Townsen Bell was not smart enough to

776
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: let Eric Shanks win their heat race. So we'll see

777
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Speaker 1: if Townshend is with us we get to stat Pete

778
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: or not. But they did this upright, and it was

779
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: fun because we did it from the Fox lot and

780
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Speaker 1: the headquarters in the same room where you see the

781
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Speaker 1: Fox NFL pregame show where Howie Long and Terry Bradshaw

782
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Speaker 1: and company are at. That's where we did our little seminar,

783
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: and Tony Kanan came out and spoke to us. So

784
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Speaker 1: we were able to ask Tony a little bit about

785
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Speaker 1: his Nolan Siegel comments and he just said, it's nothing

786
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: that I haven't said Nolan before. So we like to

787
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: be transparent here, and he did clarify what we said.

788
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Speaker 1: That's not automatic. It's not like if he's eleventh he's out,

789
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: or if he's thirteenth he's out. But we like to

790
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: have goals and we know he's very capable of that,

791
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: and I personally vouch for him. So I am going

792
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: to do everything I can to make sure Nolan gets

793
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Speaker 1: to stay. And so Nolan said, yeah, he was a

794
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: little surprised that was out there. But what Nolan was

795
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: happy about was he gets to do sports car racing

796
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: again and be in a car. And he said something

797
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: along the line, I think this was on David Lan's

798
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Speaker 1: YouTube as well, that I'm glad I was able to

799
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Speaker 1: convince some people at my nine to five job that

800
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: I could do more than IndyCar. Now Tony had just

801
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: taken an over last fall as the team principal, and

802
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: this may have been above a Gavin Ward team principal

803
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: type of thing, but you know, not all teams bless

804
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: running sports cars, especially when you get into January when

805
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: there are other things that you can be doing. But

806
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: so that's good that they're offering him that opportunity. We

807
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: had Mick Schumacher on a zoom call, so it was

808
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: good to chat with Mick a little bit more and

809
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I had offers to come to

810
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: IndyCar after I lost the hot seat in twenty three,

811
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: but was still trying to get deaf one looking back.

812
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: I wish I would have gone. I hadn't done that

813
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: at that time, but it was good to just kind

814
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: of take some time and see what I want to do.

815
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Speaker 1: And now I can tell, after driving a car one time,

816
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: this is where I want to be, and the people

817
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: and the puzzle all fit very properly. And then the

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Speaker 1: other thing I'll mention from our visit that we all

819
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Speaker 1: got to chuckle out of is they had Rob Gronkowski

820
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: grunk do like a roast video for all of the announcers.

821
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Speaker 1: They made fun of Will Buxton's white suits, and I

822
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: all know what they said about Hinch, made fun of

823
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: Jack Harvey's hair or his concern about his hair. Townshend

824
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: thinking he's best friends with Tom Brady and mentioning that

825
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: a lot because they played catch. And I was described

826
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Speaker 1: by Gronk as having the most generic white guy name ever.

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Speaker 1: So I'll take pride except for the guy good you'd

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Speaker 1: read a teleprompter kind of an action thing, but he

829
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: was really good, and I think he's a lot sharper

830
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: than people give him credit for.

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Speaker 3: Well, except for the guy who has your Twitter handle,

832
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: you know he's not the American white guy name.

833
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: So Kevin Lee out of Korea tweeted since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine. Yeah that back a few years ago. Never

835
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Speaker 1: got to it. By the way.

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Speaker 3: One one quick news item, Jim mchaleen has basically handed

837
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: over the reins at Long Beach. I mean, there's going

838
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: to be a new He's still going to be involved

839
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six. But I would have bet everything

840
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: that we would have heard Jim mcchayleyan in charge of

841
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: the Grand Prix of Long Breach until he took his

842
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: last breath. I mean, I just that's who Jim mckaylen is.

843
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: And we'll stay with Penske Entertainment. Though in some fashion

844
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: he is. He is but leading the charge in Long

845
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: Beach on a day to day basis. I thought he'd

846
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: be one hundred and six years old and still hobbling

847
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 3: down the street to do the sales pitch to get

848
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: everybody to come to Long Beach and no rain at

849
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: the Long Beach Grownd Prix. So bless his heart. I

850
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: love that man, and he has been so good for

851
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: the sport and appreciate his efforts.

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00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: We'll see what we missed next. On trackside. This is

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00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: Alex below and you're listening to truck site. All right,

854
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: final segment and what we missed. Kurt will be very

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00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: happy to see this. Indy Cart Ed Carpenter Racing have

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Speaker 1: confirmed that Ed Carpenter will compete in the Indianapolis five

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Speaker 1: hundred again this year in the number thirty three entry.

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Speaker 1: So that is official, and maybe we learn some more

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Speaker 1: next week or so, and everybody gathers for what used

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Speaker 1: to be called media days now content days, because it's

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Speaker 1: a lot more than media. It's doing all the pictures

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Speaker 1: and the social media type things that not just media uses,

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Speaker 1: but all the tracks and the partners and so forth.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get more information then Tuesday and Wednesday. Indy

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Speaker 1: Next has finished up two days of testing at the

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Speaker 1: short course at Seabring. Enzo fit Apaldi, who's racing in

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Speaker 1: the Rolex twenty four with his brother this weekend, was

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Speaker 1: fastest overall. It was all really tight. You remember this

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Speaker 1: is a short course. Fifty five point seven seconds is

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Speaker 1: a lap. He's with HMD. Max Taylor with Andretti was

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Speaker 1: second quick. Alessandro Detulio was third, quick than Max Garcia,

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Speaker 1: who is a rookie and I think he's still sixteen

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Speaker 1: turning seventeen soon. Fourth Quick and Juan Manuel Correa fifth

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Speaker 1: quick than Miles Row, Jack Beat and Josh Pearson, Alvador

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Speaker 1: Salvador day Alba and Sebastian Hurry. I don't think everyone

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Speaker 1: has signed up to this point, but there's only one

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Speaker 1: or two seats left. Out of time. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday at seven. Join us this weekend on Peacock

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Speaker 1: and NBC for the Rolex