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Speaker 1: with us again. Later, the University of Houston's Africana Studies

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Speaker 1: Professor Gerald HORNA will take over our classroom. Doctor horn

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Speaker 1: will break down the ramifications of the material kidnapping and

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Speaker 1: Doctor Horne will also shed a lot on the issue

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Speaker 1: of slavery in East and North Africa, the bombings in Nigeria,

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Speaker 1: political blog of Brandon will join us. But first, a's

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Speaker 1: get Vin to open these classroom doors this Monday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Hey, girl Nelson, Grand Rising. Indeed, as I pushed these

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Speaker 2: heavy doors open as the fifth day of twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: and you know all the world is champing at the

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Speaker 2: Girl Nelson.

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Kevin. I'm still learning, brother, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna learn a lot this morning too. Between Brandon and

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Speaker 2: Of course, you are will at the same time, you're

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Speaker 2: going to be as expousing, espousing lots of knowledge yourself,

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Speaker 2: you know, don't play yourself cheap there, bruh. Hey, But look,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start on a good note, and that is

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Speaker 1: What do you think I guess for some fans that

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Speaker 1: that's what's gonna take place. But Kevin, you know today's

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Speaker 2: This is right, right, Yeah, yeah, a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Raheem Morris, their head coach after three seasons. Say that

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Speaker 2: Well, in regard to that, I'm a little confused about

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Speaker 2: Four jobs. If you're talking about Rubio. Hey, look, but finally,

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the way it is for me, carl On

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Speaker 4: Brother Nelson, good to be back.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Well, first of all, were you surprised when

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Speaker 4: About what the Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: No, Trump has been through US military forces. He's been

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Speaker 4: and over, him falling asleep over and over again in

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Speaker 4: these in these meetings and stuff. And I'm bringing all

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Speaker 4: this up because they actually talked about it, Kav. They

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Speaker 4: actually brought it up, and they're saying, well, he's not sleeping,

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Speaker 4: he's resting his eyes and doing this. And imagine sleeping

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Speaker 4: when you're doing something like this when this type of

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Speaker 4: thing is going by. Like I said, he threatened Nigeria.

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Speaker 4: He threatened the nation of Nigeria and the people of

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Speaker 4: Nigeria talking about that they basically can't protect their Christians

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Speaker 4: so to speak now mind you you know this person

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Speaker 4: that doesn't give two hoots about it, but he's trying

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Speaker 4: to act as if that's the reason why. And I

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Speaker 4: don't know if a lot of people know this, but

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Speaker 4: Nigeria has one of the largest armies. It has, I

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Speaker 4: think it has the largest army in Africa. And like

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Speaker 4: it or not, or like the leaders are not or

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Speaker 4: understand or engage with them or not, they represent a

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Speaker 4: stabilizing force in parts of Africa. And then here comes

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Speaker 4: here he comes and uh, you know.

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Speaker 7: Just set us up.

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Speaker 4: And remember he said he was going to be the

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Speaker 4: peace president. You remember that. Ye, he's going to be

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Speaker 4: he said, he's here. Well, well it's from last year.

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Speaker 4: At this time he has bombed Venezuela, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Nigeria, Yemen,

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Speaker 4: and Somalia. Now which one of them? How many of

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Speaker 4: those countries, how many of those countries have people with

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Speaker 4: low melanin counts that most you might you might say

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Speaker 4: Iran in Syria maybe, but these this is really about,

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Speaker 4: you know, control, but it's also about the humanization and

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Speaker 4: how easy it can happen in these parts of worlds.

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Speaker 4: And no, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Moduro

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Speaker 4: was a hero. He absolutely was a dictator and an authoritarian,

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Speaker 4: and he did some things that his people are claiming

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Speaker 4: that are horrible.

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Speaker 1: But right there, Brandon, I want to go back to

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Speaker 1: Nigeria in a moment, thirty minutes off the top of

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Speaker 1: our family just waking up. We know a thirty minutes

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Speaker 1: some people just getting up and just turned on the radio.

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Speaker 1: I guess the political blog of Brandon and discussion of

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Speaker 1: course what's happened in Venezuela. And I got a news

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Speaker 1: item here and this is out of London. This news

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Speaker 1: comes back that are suspect is in custody after windows

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Speaker 1: were smashed Vice President Jay d Vance's Cincinnati home. He

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Speaker 1: lives in a suburb of Cincinnati. And I didn't hear

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Speaker 1: this in the on our news folks this morning. This

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Speaker 1: was reported in one of the UK newspapers that they

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Speaker 1: smashed the Advance's home with somebody smashed his home. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see if they were. That's picked up later this morning.

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Speaker 1: But let's go back to they deal with Nigeria, because

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, because I didn't, I know his resume included

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Speaker 1: all those quote unquote brown countries that Donald Trump is attacked,

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Speaker 1: he's given the he's given. Uh, it's going to path

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Speaker 1: towards coming to this country. For Africanas, White Africanis, you're

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Speaker 1: saying that they're being abused by black citizens of South Africa.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't he do the same for Nigeria thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Because it's about melanin count Look what we're experiencing right now,

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Speaker 4: even food. Donald Trump is the insecurity, the underbelly of

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Speaker 4: white supremacy, the idea of white prement. I've been saying

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Speaker 4: this since, I mean since almost the very first day

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Speaker 4: that you've had me on that we're going through a

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Speaker 4: slow motion civil war, and the moment that in some

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Speaker 4: parts of this nation, I mean some parts of this

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Speaker 4: nation where you're seeing a hint of parity in the

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Speaker 4: ability for people to vote and to affect what's happening

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Speaker 4: in their in their region. Their response to President Obama,

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Speaker 4: a serious legitimate candidate is an n hinged person who

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Speaker 4: does not who represents crony hirism, people who aren't, who aren't,

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Speaker 4: who don't have the accreditation, who don't have uh, the abilities,

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Speaker 4: and and quite frankly, uh, I'm going to use an

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Speaker 4: old old term, aren't up to snuff. To hold the

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Speaker 4: positions that they have. I'll give to you Pete hegship

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Speaker 4: coming in and just you know, you know, kind of

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Speaker 4: ripping through uh much of our defense forces firing black people,

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Speaker 4: like like really focusing on black folks. With the general

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Speaker 4: that he fired. They had to, they had to, they

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Speaker 4: had to promote a general Blok. This brother was so

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Speaker 4: high up they had to promote a white man below him,

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Speaker 4: just so that white man could fill the position. You

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Speaker 4: see what I'm saying these things, these are not rational situations.

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Speaker 4: They're not rational decisions, decisions made out of out of

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Speaker 4: from hatred, from the humanization. And when you do that

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Speaker 4: and the list proplanation in the world, what you're going

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Speaker 4: to end up with is cracking the logic and cracking

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Speaker 4: decisions where people end up dead. And this is one

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Speaker 4: thing that we're not talking about enough. With Venezuela. That

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Speaker 4: was the first when that number I gave, forty was

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Speaker 4: the first number of people that came out of the attacks.

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Speaker 4: Some people would say, well, that's minimal considering what they did,

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Speaker 4: but you know what represented that attack in the first place.

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Speaker 4: And what is Trump talking about? Watch what happens in

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Speaker 4: the next two weeks and what he says, and how

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Speaker 4: long he speaks for and what his rambling speeches turn into,

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Speaker 4: because for all the things that are being said and

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Speaker 4: being done, it's almost horrific to look and say this

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Speaker 4: is our leadership when you have people who lives are

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Speaker 4: on the line.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Kame Jeffrey has disputed Rubio's claim and said that

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Speaker 2: basically this is an act of war. He's outsting Madeuro

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Speaker 2: while partnering the head of Honduras claiming it was drug trafficking.

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Speaker 2: What's the difference in the drunk trafficking then, I just.

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Speaker 4: They just uh, Trump just pardoned one of the biggest

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Speaker 4: traffickers in the history of the world and actually in

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Speaker 4: the United States, the former leader, former former UH president

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Speaker 4: of Anduras and UH Orlando Hernandez. Excuse me one, Orlando Hernandez.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, the the the it's not irony,

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Speaker 4: it's it's a despicable second handness where you look at

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Speaker 4: one person you're doing this and then and of course

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Speaker 4: the argument is made that you know, we had to

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Speaker 4: go on there because you know, he somehow gives the

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Speaker 4: dang about uh the drugs and whatnot and so forth.

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Speaker 4: But of course that pardon in the first place. Then

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Speaker 4: that happened before he went in there. I pretty much

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Speaker 4: gauge anything he may have to say on the moral

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Speaker 4: tip or you know, to save it. You know, the

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Speaker 4: dictators always say this, and Carl, you know you have

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Speaker 4: a history. You understand this as well. That's the enemy

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Speaker 4: over there, that is a that's the thread over there.

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Speaker 4: You guys need to be saved, and only I can

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Speaker 4: save you. So give up some of your rights, put

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Speaker 4: me in power, and I will protect you. Every strong

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Speaker 4: man and strong leader and a person who wanted to

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Speaker 4: be a dictator and authoritarian in the world has always

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Speaker 4: said that. And they if they didn't have an actual debt,

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Speaker 4: they would create one. And that is what you're looking

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Speaker 4: at in this situation here. I mean, we were talking

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Speaker 4: about it, Carl and I were talking about it not

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Speaker 4: too long about us. The attack on those voters who

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Speaker 4: were in the middle of the ocean. There was no evidence.

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Speaker 4: That is an act of war. There was no evidence

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Speaker 4: of people of whatever they said they were carrying, and

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Speaker 4: they were actually killing people and then showing it. Those

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Speaker 4: two things. You know, even even frog marching Maduro is

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Speaker 4: against international law, you know. But they're acting like I said,

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Speaker 4: he's as he descends, we're seeing more and more dictatorial actions.

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Speaker 4: And I really want people, I think, and I'm you know,

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Speaker 4: Carl's gonna have on some great experts. We're going to

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Speaker 4: be able to talk about our history in Latin America

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Speaker 4: and the disgusting gratifications of what has happened over the

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Speaker 4: years and how we've turned our back on it. To

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Speaker 4: give an example back in the day. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if a lot of people know this, especially younger cats,

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Speaker 4: is as part of propaganda against the Civic Union. If

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Speaker 4: someone could make it off the island of Cuba and

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Speaker 4: get to the United States of any parts, they were

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Speaker 4: given asylum almost immediately. If they could get from from

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Speaker 4: Castro's Cuba, if they can just get off the island

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Speaker 4: and get here, they were offered asylum.

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Speaker 1: Well, she's like a Brandon's line job. But we come

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Speaker 1: up on a break and we come back the Kevin

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Speaker 1: get Brandon Beck is the one of our tweets once

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Speaker 1: to know if this is to avoid discussing the Epstein files,

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Speaker 1: is that that far is the same thing? Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: if somebody tweeted and put that question for Brandon, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get Brandon come back. We'll let him respond to

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Speaker 1: that family. Twenty three minutes away from the top, they

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Speaker 1: are Grand Rising and we welcome to Monday. I guess

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Speaker 1: this political blog of Brandon. We'll get back to that.

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Speaker 1: We check the new sports and weather in our local cities.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back after the news. That's next, and Grand

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Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for starting your week with us. At

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Speaker 1: sixteen minutes away from the top, they are with the

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Speaker 1: political Blog of Brandon before we go back to Brandon.

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Speaker 1: Also coming up later this morning, we speak with the

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Speaker 1: University of Houston's Africana Studies professor doctor Gerald Horn. Dr

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Speaker 1: Horn of course going to talk about Venezuela, but also

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Speaker 1: you're going to share information about us about the slavery

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Speaker 1: in East and North Africa, the bombings of Nigeria, Israel's

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Speaker 1: recognition of Somaliland, the threat of an attack on Iran

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Speaker 1: and Cuba, and also where we're getting word of a

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Speaker 1: possible coup attempt in Bikino Foster, so we'll throw all

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Speaker 1: that on. Professor Gerald Horn is also an attorney, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Later this morning, later this week, you're in

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Speaker 1: here from futuristic researcher brother Sadeka mccari also physician signed

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Speaker 1: doctor Available Bulls And I'm going to revisit Altadena, California,

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Speaker 1: that was a year ago to the day where that

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Speaker 1: fire turned. We'll see how some of the residents are

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Speaker 1: doing right there. In fact, Brandon lives in that area

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Speaker 1: of the woods. It took me through Altadena after the fire.

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Speaker 1: Brandon ran rising welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, uh huh yeah. I'm actually putting together a

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Speaker 4: small piece myself. Now'll link it to you to the

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Speaker 4: show there about the year and what happened that they

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Speaker 4: started on January seventh. You're talking about the fires, and

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Speaker 4: I actually started the day in the San Bernardino Mountains

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Speaker 4: and made it all the way down to the day,

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Speaker 4: and so it just shows what happened from my perspective

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Speaker 4: and how I saw it and what happened in the evening,

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Speaker 4: and how I actually went up on the freeway. I

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Speaker 4: win you. You and I talked about this when you came

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Speaker 4: out here. I went up on the freeway on the

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Speaker 4: on ramp to see because it's a little higher. They said,

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Speaker 4: it's not even that late at night, but it was darker,

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Speaker 4: and to see how far away it was, less than

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Speaker 4: four miles away when it first started and I was

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Speaker 4: able to see it through the through the valley, and

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Speaker 4: then it just it was basically from then on there

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Speaker 4: three days of just staying awake and trying to fight

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Speaker 4: this thing as best we could all throughout the city.

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Speaker 4: So Altadena is dealing. And now, of course we've had

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Speaker 4: torrential rain for where in California we've had drought conditions

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Speaker 4: for quite some time, all cleared up in a week,

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Speaker 4: huge amounts of water. And so tomorrow I'll be taking

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Speaker 4: a drive through some of those same neighborhoods that she

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Speaker 4: drove through with us when you came out of here, Carl,

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Speaker 4: to see what they're looking like, to see the because

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Speaker 4: it hasn't been all storming, but it's been a constant rain.

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Speaker 4: And of course one of the problems is Carl, that

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Speaker 4: they've had to worry about because there's are hills, they're

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Speaker 4: in the side of a mountain, you know, and what's

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Speaker 4: going to happen and it's only going to be mudslides.

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Speaker 4: We're going to see people's land shifting. And then of

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Speaker 4: course the chemicals they did a good job of clearing,

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Speaker 4: but you know, a good rain could bring up some

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Speaker 4: other situations. So uh, there's just some fights to get through,

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Speaker 4: although there have been in short a couple days ago,

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Speaker 4: some of the first certificate of occupations have been handed

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Speaker 4: out in both Pasadena and Altadena for some homes that

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Speaker 4: were rebuilt from that year, from a year ago.

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Speaker 1: So and you mentioned, you know when when were they

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Speaker 1: you took me down what's it called Christmas Tree Lane

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Speaker 1: or something like.

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Speaker 4: That, Christmas Tree Lane, yestreet.

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Speaker 1: Line, right and any Christmas the networks did a peace

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Speaker 1: on that. You know, the neighborhood's coming back as all

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Speaker 1: the Christmas tree lights were light up and they drove

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Speaker 1: I said, oh wow, that's where Brannon took me down

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Speaker 1: that street.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know I was raised. I was raised on

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Speaker 4: that street. My grandmother had a house on that street.

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Speaker 4: And every Christmas they would line the tree. It started

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Speaker 4: out nineteen twenty. It's one of the oldest celebrations of

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Speaker 4: its kind in the nation, and the by John Woodbury

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Speaker 4: and his son, who are the people that were called

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Speaker 4: the founders of Altadena. And it's right off of the

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Speaker 4: street Woodbury and Santa Rosa. And yeah, they lit the

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Speaker 4: trees up again this year, although it's not as abundant.

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Speaker 4: It's up to the neighbors to kind of they kind

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Speaker 4: of coordinate it and so.

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Speaker 5: On and so forth.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I was raised on that street. That was

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Speaker 4: the first ten years of my life. Every summer up

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Speaker 4: there on that street. So they're trying to show signs of,

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Speaker 4: you know, still staying in the good fight. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you saw it. During the Rose Bowl Parade,

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Speaker 4: there was a float from Alcadena. Most of the floats

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Speaker 4: that you see in the Rose Bowl Parade two very

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Speaker 4: specific things is they're all handmade, and they're made from

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Speaker 4: natural products, although some get a little bit more extravagant

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Speaker 4: than others. And most of them, not all of most

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Speaker 4: of them, although it might be maybe spot having sponsors

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Speaker 4: corporate sponsors, they represent cities, and Altadena actually had its

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Speaker 4: own float in the Rose Parade and someone had a

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Speaker 4: banner on it or a sign basically saying that we

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Speaker 4: won't sell Altadena strong, which has been the motto of

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Speaker 4: people not wanting to sell their properties to some of

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Speaker 4: these corporate entities, and the banner was confiscated a short

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Speaker 4: period into the into the role it made the turn,

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Speaker 4: which is the most famous part on Colorado and Orange grow.

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Speaker 4: So millions of people saw it and then some people,

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Speaker 4: some authorities came up and snatched it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, interesting, did not know that ten away from

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Speaker 1: the time. Let's go back to Venezuela. Though, before you left,

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Speaker 1: we had a tweet. I wanted to know if you

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Speaker 1: think that this was this was just to get away

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Speaker 1: from Epstein file. So all of this, this attack and

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Speaker 1: all this and do you think it could be that serious?

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Speaker 4: I think it served that purpose. It definitely though, has

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Speaker 4: been a build up for them to do this. This

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Speaker 4: isn't something that is that they just thought of. You know, Ah,

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Speaker 4: the f C and files are going crazy, so let's

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Speaker 4: do this. As you can see, it's it was a

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Speaker 4: considered effort to muddy up the people of Venezuela and

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Speaker 4: as to make it look like they were they're a

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Speaker 4: bunch of drug runners and so we have to do

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Speaker 4: something about it. The the oil companies have been wanting

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Speaker 4: to get back into Venezuela for quite some time, a

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Speaker 4: big way where they're running because the same thing about Nigeria.

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Speaker 4: By the way, and you know this, Carl, there was

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Speaker 4: many also in Brazil. There are many of activists, people

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Speaker 4: of color all throughout those countries, you know, who see

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Speaker 4: the damage that the some of the uh, they don't

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Speaker 4: have the protections of the environmental protections that we have.

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Speaker 4: And even though ours are you know, strained to the

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Speaker 4: to the to the n degree. There yeah, there, there,

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Speaker 4: there are there are people who who protest and try

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Speaker 4: to fight the destruction of their homelands through the situation

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Speaker 4: and when these corporations can't run roughshot. This is an

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Speaker 4: old tactic. By the way, I'm pretty sure your expert's

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Speaker 4: going to come on and talk about how the United

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Speaker 4: States and in the European nations have used force to

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Speaker 4: control population. It's not just colonization, it is extracting their resources,

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Speaker 4: which is, by the way, what France was doing in Vietnam.

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Speaker 4: No one talks about this. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 4: even taught in school that says, how did we end

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Speaker 4: up in the Vietnamese War? And it was about Vietnam

726
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Speaker 4: fighting for its own independence against the Japanese during World

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Speaker 4: War two, wanting to be recognized by the world and

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Speaker 4: in the world, essentially giving that country back to France,

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Speaker 4: a colonial power that got kicked out of there by Japan,

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Speaker 4: and the Vietnamese vast said no. The Vietnam said no,

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Speaker 4: absolutely not, and Vietnam has large mineral deposits. I think

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Speaker 4: some of it being nickelutan and so forth, and something

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Speaker 4: that Japan needed to in order to fight a war,

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Speaker 4: and they fought back bravely and then they had to

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Speaker 4: fight the rest of the world to be recognized as

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Speaker 4: their own country. So are you saying that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Monte wants to get in on the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Ate away from the top day our family, just checking in.

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Speaker 1: I guess this political blog of Brandon of course, discussing

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Speaker 1: what's going on in Venisuela. Montese's in the war room

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Speaker 1: in Pentagon City, Virginia. So Monte grand Rising, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program, you know with Brandon.

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Speaker 3: Grand Rising.

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Speaker 8: I was calling talking about the business where we're having

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Speaker 8: over the weekend, and when I first saw what happened,

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Speaker 8: I kind of thought, you know, it was a good

747
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Speaker 8: thing for the American dollar. But then when I resoughted

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Speaker 8: all the countries that has assets and American dollars, you know,

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Speaker 8: they rapidly move it out of the dollar. Was going

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Speaker 8: to cause a dollar to crash more, which is going

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Speaker 8: to call more pain for you know, black people, you

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Speaker 8: know Americans, but especially black people, which will call more

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Speaker 8: pain for us, and a lot of people think they

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Speaker 8: went over there for just for the oil. When they

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Speaker 8: went over there, there's still the silver reserves, because the

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Speaker 8: silver is an industrial metal that is needed for the

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Speaker 8: world reserves to make cell phones, cars, missiles, weapons, and

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Speaker 8: that's and that's greatly completed. And so by going over

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Speaker 8: taking that, they solved two problems at one time. The

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Speaker 8: first problem is they solved, but they're trying to solve

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Speaker 8: it got national debt by taking them people's silver. And

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Speaker 8: the second one is they're trying to solve by taking

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Speaker 8: their oil. You know, I guess solve America's a natural

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Speaker 8: resource problem because the people that the Middle East has

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Speaker 8: already signed with bricks real recently, I think maybe two

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Speaker 8: days ago.

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Speaker 3: But that's what I had to say.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Brown, you want to well, there.

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Speaker 4: Is something there is something called the petro dollar. Our

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Speaker 4: civilization is still based on petrochemicals, from latex in paint

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Speaker 4: to every plastic nib that's on the end of your shoelaces,

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Speaker 4: to everything around you. Okay, and so the dollar does

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Speaker 4: remain strong, but the question is strong for who even

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Speaker 4: if the dollar is held up strung through this action

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Speaker 4: or made to be stabilized in this action, it doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean stability for most of the people who would consider

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Speaker 4: themselves middle class on down, even upper middle class, Carl.

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Speaker 4: The we're I think we're gonna say it's faith to

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Speaker 4: say that we're close to a new gilded age, and

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Speaker 4: it's remarkably imbalanced. You know, in California, minimum wage jobs

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Speaker 4: are twenty three dollars an hour. But that's only because

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Speaker 4: California passed the law saying that that there must be

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Speaker 4: employers must add sixteen dollars to the national minimum wage

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Speaker 4: in order to pay to have a so that people

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Speaker 4: can get get paid a living wage. That means that

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Speaker 4: the national minimum wage, Carl, is still seven dollars in something,

787
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Speaker 4: Since seven dollars in something sence, you're essentially working for

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Speaker 4: two gallons of gas, you know, every album. And you

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Speaker 4: know what I want to say to that is, how

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Speaker 4: would stabilizing anything, well, you know, help to rectify the

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Speaker 4: imbalance that's going on in our economy. And I talk

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Speaker 4: about I've been you know, I'm not an expert. You

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Speaker 4: have great experts on they can all speak on this.

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Speaker 4: But one of the things that I deal with, especially

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Speaker 4: in dealing with sometimes. You know, I'm a little tinker

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Speaker 4: with computers and help people out all the time. Personal

797
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Speaker 4: personal incomes, personal economies where people start making choices about things.

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Speaker 4: Do you look at the macro where Venezuela's oils Oils

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Speaker 4: talked about Trump just straight out and said something that

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Speaker 4: was just in any other day, Carl your your journalism

801
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Speaker 4: would have been on fire. You wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 4: put the phone down. You guys would be talking. The

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Speaker 4: man said, we're going to get our oil, said that

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Speaker 4: right in front of the tell of You know, that

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Speaker 4: is something that we've always known. But to say that

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Speaker 4: out front that way, right, But who's oil? Not the

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Speaker 4: oil for the people in the United States, It belongs to Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: So who's who is that supposed to serve?

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Speaker 9: And you have huge.

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Speaker 4: Amounts of money. I mean, we're very close to having

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Speaker 4: a class or at least a couple of trillionaires where

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Speaker 4: money is glacierized in a few people's hands. We actually

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Speaker 4: do have a class of billionaires in this country. And

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Speaker 4: you cannot glacialize that much money out of the economy

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Speaker 4: without so many people suffering. It's it's in my in

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Speaker 4: my personal opinion, you're talking about something that it's almost

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Speaker 4: immoral because this so many have to give so much

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Speaker 4: in order for those conditions to exist.

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Speaker 1: I'll have that thought right there. We got to check

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Speaker 1: the trafficking weather in at different seas when we come back, though,

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Speaker 1: I had the feeling that this thing has not win

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Speaker 1: completely thought out. When he says we're going to run Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: We're going to take over the oil o. Our oil

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Speaker 1: companies are going to run Venezuela. It seems like that

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Speaker 1: was just talking. It seems like there was no concrete plan. Again,

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Speaker 1: it may be a concept he likes to roll into that.

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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on that when we

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Speaker 1: get back. Family, YouTube can join our conversation with Brandon.

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Speaker 1: He's a political blogger. You can reach him at eight

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Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and

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Speaker 1: we'll take your phones after we check the traffic and

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Speaker 1: weather not different cities. That's an next family. A happy

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Speaker 1: New Year, folks. We haven't spoken to you in a while,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for joining us on this Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to our teachers. By the way, teachers going

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Speaker 1: back to the classroom this morning and take every our

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Speaker 1: young ones. It's too after the top of the hour

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Speaker 1: political blog of Brandon and we're discussing, of course, the

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Speaker 1: biggest news item across the world today, what happened in Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: And my question to you Brandon before we left for

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Speaker 1: the traffic and weather update, was the fact that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump announced that the American Oil Company is going to

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Speaker 1: run the oil industry in Venezuela. And this is a problem.

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Speaker 1: Part of this problem now shows up because Venezuela supplies Cuba.

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Speaker 1: They suppribly Russia and Iran with oil as well and

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Speaker 1: some of the other islands in the Caribbean on a

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Speaker 1: discounted basis. Do you think this is the part of

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Speaker 1: the plan that now this is an indirect way to

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Speaker 1: cut off Russia and Cuba from from the discounted oil

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Speaker 1: from from Venezuela. He says that, you know, the system

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Speaker 1: is decrepit, it's it's out of a it's old and

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Speaker 1: it needs to be updated. And they'll decide who gets

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Speaker 1: the oil, and it basically saying it's our oil, meaning

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Speaker 1: United States oil. I want to get your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it is a lever of control. I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I don't think Trump would be allowed by

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Speaker 4: Putin to do anything they would be detrimental to Russia.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think. I don't think that would happen.

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Speaker 4: I think that it is some sort of lever of control.

860
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: But you know, putting Exxon and a couple of other

861
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 4: countries back in control of Venezuelan oil certainly seems like

862
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: it was one of the goals. I don't know if

863
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: you remember, but during Trump, when he was running, he

864
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: actually he had a meeting with the oil companies and

865
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: told them that if you donate to me, I will

866
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 4: you know, be able to do certain things for you,

867
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 4: and blah blah blah. And actually on your show, we

868
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 4: saw it as being akin to the business meeting that

869
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: happened in Berlin when Adolf Hitler was rising. Is one

870
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: thing that consolidated his powers. He got business entities together

871
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: and was able to get them to back him with

872
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: their money and resources and his rise to power. And

873
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 4: it was very important that that happened because his organizations

874
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: were starving. H they were cash poor. They were the

875
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 4: ranks were rich as far as you know, not rich,

876
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: but they had a lot of people, but they were

877
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: cash poort. So we had this meeting, this infant meeting,

878
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 4: infamous meeting called the Business Meeting, where he outlined German

879
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 4: expansion and areas that a lot of these companies could

880
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: go off into and control should he be put in power.

881
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 4: And that's when they decided to back him. And it

882
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: was kind of the same thing when Trump spoke to

883
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: these oil companies. So I do think that there's some

884
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: sort of movement to increase the levers of power there

885
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 4: sure well.

886
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: Just five at the top of that, Brandon, And I

887
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: don't know, you're not a psychologist, but answer this question, though,

888
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: the people, the rank and file of support Donald Trump,

889
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: they're not getting paid and there's nothing in there him directly.

890
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: The billionaires getting money, all these oil tie guys, all

891
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: the he spoke to support Donald Trump, and he and

892
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: they and supported him with cash, helping him build you know,

893
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: build out the White House if you will, and all

894
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff and support his campaign with cash.

895
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: And they're the ones who are getting getting paid. They're

896
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: getting repaid for their loyalty. But the rank and file,

897
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: the MAGA group, who all they are blind blind loyalty

898
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump, they're not. They're not saying that their

899
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: resources in fact, they're paying more for goods and services

900
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 1: they may have, but still they still love Donald Trump.

901
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 10: Can you explain that to me?

902
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 4: I would say that, you know, it's very obvious to

903
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: the restoration of almost everyone here that we're dealing with

904
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: a cult. And I've kind of I've had discussions with

905
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 4: people about this. You know, in regards to trying to

906
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 4: woo MAGA people away from mag you.

907
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 7: Can't do that.

908
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 4: They have to leave on their own volition. They have

909
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 4: to leave on their own terms. You know, you're not

910
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 4: There's nothing that you could say to a cult to

911
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: they have to come to it. You could provide them

912
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: with evidence, but they have to come to it themselves.

913
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: And even still, we're talking about something that was based

914
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 4: on blatant cruelty, the idea of being cruel to people,

915
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 4: the idea of having agency in people's bodies, over people's

916
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: bodies and minds and positions and futures. Do you really

917
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 4: want to work that hard to have that person next

918
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 4: to you. They will vote their interest when they go

919
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 4: through enough pain when he puts them through. But I'm

920
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 4: in order for that to happen, maybe sectors of our

921
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: economy have to be destroyed with the people, and I

922
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 4: don't want that to happen. I don't want people to

923
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: be in the streets in my own opinion. But it's

924
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 4: you know, it's and it was based a lot of

925
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 4: it's based on race. And like LBJ said, you know,

926
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 4: if you can if you can give, you can have

927
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 4: the lowest wife man looked down on the on the

928
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: highest black man, you can pick his pocket, and if

929
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 4: you give him someone else to look down on, he'll

930
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: empty his pockets for you. And we've seen that, We've

931
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: seen that absolutely play out, and they will come up

932
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 4: with their you know, they'll come up with a way

933
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: to reason this away. They'll come up with their own

934
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 4: broken logic to themselves and say why this was needed

935
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 4: and this was important to happen out even though you know,

936
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: this was never spoken of when he was running. As

937
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 4: a matter of fact, he remember he said he was

938
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 4: going to be the peace president and I just you know,

939
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 4: I just gave you, you know, seven countries that he's

940
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 4: bombed since he came in. And this is what's also

941
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 4: you know, Carl, I think there is something to be

942
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: said for the fact that when strong men get to

943
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: be seen as weak and are cornered they strike out

944
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 4: to make it look like they're strong again, you know,

945
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 4: And that's where the Epstein files. That's where the Epstein

946
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: files come into plays as a as a something to

947
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 4: put him in position of weakness. So it's not necessarily

948
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: just the fact that the files existed and what was

949
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 4: going on, but it weakened his position, so he had

950
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 4: to he he this, you know, this strike as they

951
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 4: see it is an authoritarian would see it kind of

952
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: boosts him back into play.

953
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, at some point though, fatigue has to come in.

954
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been through a whole year with Donald

955
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: Trump now and I'm just I'm just I just thinking

956
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: we haven't seen anything yet. I mean, this is the

957
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: first year we got. We've got three more years of

958
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: this and for most people, they're just tired. They just

959
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: don't want anymore. They just you know, they they're craving

960
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: for And the polls are showing this right now, that

961
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: the polls are showing a favoring the Democrats. Uh, do

962
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: you think the maggot group and the people who are

963
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: the loyalist to Donald Trump are going to wake up

964
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: right about now? Or was it the people who were

965
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: on the swing who says I thought Trump was going

966
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: to do this, as you mentioned, he was going to

967
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: be the peace president. He's going to solve the economy

968
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: on day one and all this, all the stuff that

969
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: he's going to do. He's going to release the Appstein files.

970
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: He hasn't kept his promises. So many of the people

971
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: in the country have saw that now against him. But

972
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: the hardcore MAGA group, when do you think they'll go

973
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: wake up? Is it going to take something personal? Is

974
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: it when the when the healthcare now that this month,

975
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: now they when they get the healthcare bills. Do you

976
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: think that's going to wake them up?

977
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 4: I think I think personal struggle will bring some of

978
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 4: them to wake up, and they'll go into the voting booths.

979
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: And do you know, mind you, I'm not altogether sure

980
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 4: that our voting is safe right now, given who now

981
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 4: owns at least one of the vote voting companies actually

982
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 4: was taken over by a gop cohort or someone who

983
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 4: is who believes in system, the conservative person. But I

984
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 4: think it's you know, I don't really delve too much

985
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 4: pass the idea of it being a cult, you know,

986
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 4: I'm not. I think what we have to concern ourselves

987
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 4: with is trying to ensure that people who who made

988
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 4: moves under MAGA never sit at the table of governance again.

989
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 4: And that is very important because they obstructed when they could,

990
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: and they destroyed when they got power to build. And

991
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 4: in this very important I mean, you're seeing this person,

992
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 4: Marjorie Taylor Green, who is now you know, attacking Trump

993
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 4: and saying, you know, and she just put a post

994
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 4: out today talking about basically showing the ridiculousness and the

995
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 4: lie of how he said he was going to be

996
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 4: the peace president and so on and so forth. I

997
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: think she put a post out in some respect something

998
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 4: about that. But she's not an ally. You know, she

999
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 4: worked tirelessly to help create this Frankenstein and that needs

1000
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 4: to be remembered and it needs to be repeated so

1001
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 4: that it's understood that, Look, you know this sometimes, you know,

1002
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: certain situations makes strange bedfellows war and politics. But you know,

1003
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 4: while that's true, you still need to make sure that

1004
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 4: you understand what they were professing and what they have

1005
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 4: been professing for twenty thirty years, and then when they

1006
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 4: got in power, all of the damage that they've done

1007
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 4: just you know, sheer horrific damage where they've picked up

1008
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 4: American citizens and thrown them into some They've created concentration camps.

1009
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 4: They've destroyed and broken up families. They've been you know,

1010
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 4: and the cruelty doesn't end there. It goes into the

1011
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 4: monetary terms. It goes into educational terms, it goes into

1012
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 4: specific racial relations or racial relations in the United States.

1013
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 4: Is they've you know, ramped up hatred which has articulated itself,

1014
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: and people of color being targeted, in many cases un alive.

1015
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: So we have to be very careful about how we

1016
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: approach this. You know, it can't be you know, what,

1017
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 4: what is their next move? Can we you know, commiserate

1018
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 4: with them as we go through this, you know, this

1019
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 4: struggle because you know, it's it's that whole thing of

1020
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: the the the the frog and the scorpion trying to

1021
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 4: get across the river, you know, and the frog and

1022
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 4: the scorpion have a conversation and frog scorpion says, if

1023
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 4: you take me across this river, you know, we'll be

1024
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: all right. I'll help you out. And the frog said, no,

1025
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 4: you're a scorpion. You're gonna sting me. Scorpions says, no.

1026
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 4: Frog takes across the river and halfway through the river,

1027
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 4: The scorpion stings him, and the frog says, why do

1028
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 4: you do that? He says, that can't help myself. I'm

1029
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 4: a scorpion. And at a certain point you have to

1030
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 4: take that logic and you have to say, Okay, what

1031
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 4: have they done in the past, what is it based on,

1032
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 4: and what they move forward? I would say that also,

1033
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 4: you know, this move on Venezuela is pure magna. You

1034
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 4: know the way it's being framed. Absolutely, you know, some

1035
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 4: brown skinned people are a threat to us, and so

1036
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to go in there and clean it up.

1037
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm going there and take somebody and

1038
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 4: actual people die. So you know, this this farce of

1039
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 4: what he's what he's saying too, and it's not even

1040
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 4: the farstest. You can actually be very clear about this.

1041
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: He was very clear about what he was doing was

1042
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 4: putting the oil companies back in charge of a sovereign nation.

1043
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 4: And I think that at the very least that's despicable. Now,

1044
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 4: do we want to continue to align ourselves that type

1045
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 4: of behavior?

1046
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 11: Is the question?

1047
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: Well, it's a big question there. And I guess the

1048
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: folks who think that way, you know your question, do

1049
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: they do they really are they really thinking for themselves

1050
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: or they just caught up with they just swallowed drank

1051
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: so much of the kool aid, they just regriterate anything

1052
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: that they're said without even thinking about the consequences. Or

1053
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: do you think they because the support for Donald Trump's

1054
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: because they believe in what he believes in.

1055
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 4: I mean, ask yourself about Nicki minaj I'm pretty sure

1056
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 4: we would have talked about that more if this had

1057
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 4: not happened. There have been reports of what she did.

1058
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 4: If you don't know, Nick Minaje went on Turning Point USA,

1059
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 4: which is Charlie Kirk's organization to pie piper people funnel

1060
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: young people into the Maga mindset, which I could I

1061
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 4: would say, is you know, once again a cult move.

1062
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 4: But she went on stage with Charlie Kirk's widow as

1063
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 4: the widow you know, mourns with you know, glitter and pyrotechnics,

1064
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 4: and she you know, she praised Donald. She praised the widow,

1065
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 4: and she was talking about Christianity and she said some

1066
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: really like you know, Donald's handsome and all these you know,

1067
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 4: weird things. And then people like Dale Hughley actually heard

1068
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 4: I heard it from his She was talking about, well

1069
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: what may be happening, is that she's trying to save

1070
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Speaker 4: her house because she got into some legal thing and

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Speaker 4: it turned into a judgment and that judgment has gone

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Speaker 4: against her, and so she may be making moves to

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Speaker 4: try to say her house. I don't know specifically.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: I just hurted like everybody else. So you have to

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Speaker 4: do your research and try to find out at the

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Speaker 4: bottom of that is true. But you know, you have

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Speaker 4: to be careful of how people are speaking. Do they

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Speaker 4: really believe it or are they looking for, you know,

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Speaker 4: a come up. You dig what I'm saying. And the

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Speaker 4: reason why that's important is not we're not just talking

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Speaker 4: about people on corners doing this. When you back and

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Speaker 4: connect with that type of mindset, the authoritarian mindset, lives

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Speaker 4: are at risk. Lives are risk, and so you know

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Speaker 4: when people when real lives and I'm not just talking

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Speaker 4: about the fact that you know, our way of life

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Speaker 4: is then, but actual people aren't alive on this planet

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Speaker 4: and you have to be careful about that. So I

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Speaker 4: don't think I don't think it's something to be played

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Speaker 4: with a toy with. It's what I'm saying, all.

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Speaker 1: Right though, Right then we've got to step aside for

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Speaker 1: a few months. I've got some folks want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you when we get back. Bob in Buffalo, Charles

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore Family YouTube can join our discussion with Brandon.

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Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero

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Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

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Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising Family, thanks for starting your week

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Speaker 1: with us. At twenty minutes after the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: I guess there's the political block of Brandon discussing what's

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Speaker 1: going on in Venezuela. Also, Brandon gave us an update

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Speaker 1: on the spending the one year anniversary of the those

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Speaker 1: killer fires out in Altadena where he resides. Eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. I'm

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Speaker 1: of the call speak to Brandon. Bob's calling from Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: He's online one Grand Rising, Bobby're on my political block

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Speaker 1: of Brandon.

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Speaker 11: You're a happy, healthy, and progressive new year to all

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Speaker 11: of us. Have a comment in a question. The comment

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Speaker 11: is that Venezuela wasn't failure threat. I think it was

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Speaker 11: an obstacle for something that they wanted, and they wanted

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Speaker 11: to get that obstacle either way they posed it that

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Speaker 11: they were a threat by using drugs or whatever, but

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Speaker 11: they were more an obstacle. They wanted the oil, so

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Speaker 11: they went and they got the oil. My question is, is

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Speaker 11: the concept or the reality of checks and balances totally

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Speaker 11: out of the window. And you know when Putin wanted

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Speaker 11: Ukraine the European Union, and they came as a counterbalance

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Speaker 11: as a check on his desire to just take over Ukraine.

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Speaker 11: But I don't see the international community or anybody coming

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Speaker 11: as a check or a balance on the aspirations or

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Speaker 11: the actions of Trump and his allies. There is the

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Speaker 11: idea or even the reality or the idea of checks

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Speaker 11: and balances is totally out of the window now, and

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Speaker 11: they just can do whatever they want. Bullies like Putin

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Speaker 11: or like Trump or whoever can do whatever they want

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Speaker 11: to the week. The strong can do the week. Might

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Speaker 11: doesn't make right, but it makes things possible. They can

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Speaker 11: do it, so they do do it. I'm not sure

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Speaker 11: if that was clear or not.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Brandon.

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Speaker 4: Carl's bringing on someone who who's an expert in this area,

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Speaker 4: is I would say, on the political and though I

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Speaker 4: know he was talking about geopolitically, the checks and balances

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Speaker 4: probably would be China, which is dangerous because you know

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Speaker 4: you're coming in.

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Speaker 12: There at all.

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Speaker 11: There's a U income in any kind of.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but let me but let me let me because I,

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Speaker 4: like I said, I'm not an expert in that, but

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Speaker 4: but I think it's very important to to bring out

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Speaker 4: something that's very important.

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Speaker 13: China and Taiwan, Russian, yes, Russian, Ukraine, uh Pakistan and

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Speaker 13: India where they are Kashmir.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now you're talking about places in dispute which may

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Speaker 4: go the direction of Trump and just go in and

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Speaker 4: take it.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: I think China is something I think we have a

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Speaker 4: very kind of a fifty year old view of China

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Speaker 4: and Taiwan. I believe Taiwan actually is still propped up

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Speaker 4: actually by China because the super rich and China need

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Speaker 4: to find a way to funnel their money from the country,

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Speaker 4: and that's primarily why Taiwan is still around. I believe

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Speaker 4: that although Shanghai has some areas to do that. Now,

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Speaker 4: I will say this though, and this is the microcosm

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Speaker 4: to what you were talking about. The national On the

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Speaker 4: national level, you have a political party which is abdicated

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Speaker 4: it the legislative branches job to counterbalance or to be

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Speaker 4: a check and balance again on the presidency of the

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Speaker 4: United States, the executive branch the United States of America.

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Speaker 4: The GOP has completely given itself over to Trump in

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Speaker 4: a very dangerous way. And like I said, this is

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Speaker 4: one of those things that the Democrats, into my frustration,

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Speaker 4: don't bring up every day when people get angry. Why

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Speaker 4: don't the Democrats do some Democrats do something it really

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Speaker 4: they really should be naming Republicans all throughout the districts

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Speaker 4: and all throughout their state because this party has really

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Speaker 4: destroyed and and I'm going to say it destroyed the

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Speaker 4: checks and balances of the legislative branch on an executive

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Speaker 4: branch where the way I think, like I said, it's

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Speaker 4: very important to continue to point out.

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Speaker 9: The cognition of this man who is now, who tries

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Speaker 9: to who tries to boast the fact that he has

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Speaker 9: taken three cognitive tests, which you know is a sign

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Speaker 9: that somebody around him, many people around him, are worried

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Speaker 9: that he is insane.

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Speaker 7: You know this.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know you were speaking on the geopolitical sense,

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Speaker 4: in the global sense, but what I'm talking about is

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Speaker 4: the micro which actually affects the global sense, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and I would I would, I would

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Speaker 4: hope that you would listen later on when Carl brings

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Speaker 4: on his experts to talk about, you know, the history

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Speaker 4: and the now and those because I can I read

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Speaker 4: some of those questions are just I'm not an expert

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Speaker 4: and I'm not going to sit here and try they

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Speaker 4: expound on. But I do believe I think you're correct

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Speaker 4: and at least have been concerned about the checks and

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Speaker 4: balances of what's going on in Europe and what's going

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Speaker 4: on and so on and so forth. By the way,

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Speaker 4: this is not new though for the United States, especially

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Speaker 4: in this hemisphere. I just I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: were listening earlier, but I just named some of the

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Speaker 4: some of the attacks and interventions that we did, and

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Speaker 4: this has been going on since we've had the power.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Panama Canal is one of the things

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Speaker 4: that actually if you can, you know, talk about it,

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Speaker 4: or anybody Carl can especially bring that up. Is you know,

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Speaker 4: as an American looked upon as an American enterprise, which

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Speaker 4: we held in this part of the world for a

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Speaker 4: good part of one hundred some years.

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Speaker 1: So it's Brandon, Is this all part of the Monroe

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Speaker 1: doctrine still anyflect as we speak?

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Speaker 4: The Monroe doctrine was the young nation at the time

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Speaker 4: flexing its you know, getting its flex on to get

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Speaker 4: rid of an old, creaky system, the colonial system from Europe.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't specifically what were you know, the geopolitics that

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Speaker 4: we're talking about now. They didn't have the capability. I

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Speaker 4: think Theodore Roosevelt when he put our navy on tour,

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Speaker 4: was more in that direction. But I think there's something, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's something to be said for. But this isn't kicking

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Speaker 4: you know, Europe out of out of Latin America. It's

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Speaker 4: kicking Latins out of Latin America, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's going into Venezuela and and trying to undermine it's

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Speaker 4: it's sovereignty.

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Speaker 1: And since you mentioned Theodore Roosevelt, is that what the

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Speaker 1: country needs at this point? Another Teddy row.

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Speaker 4: You know, I know the first thing they need to

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Speaker 4: do is is to, like I said, remove MAGA from

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Speaker 4: the table of governance. That's the very first thing they

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Speaker 4: have done. Been remarkably destructive and one of the biggest

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Speaker 4: problems that we have is, like I said, because it's

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Speaker 4: the cult, you're never going to get accountability. So people

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Speaker 4: hoping that, you know, all these other things happen, it's

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Speaker 4: they're not going to they're not going to acknowledge it.

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Speaker 4: And I will remind people and people, you know, they

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Speaker 4: kind of jump up and down when you make allusions

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Speaker 4: to Hitler or whatever. But there were German people who

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Speaker 4: did not believe that they were being defeated or could

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Speaker 4: be defeated, almost up until the very end, until parts

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Speaker 4: of Berlin were flattened. So understand that.

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Speaker 5: That where we are.

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Speaker 4: And I do believe that, you know, personal personal economies

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Speaker 4: come into play, Carls. So when folks start filling the bite, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're going to see some people who will come around.

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Speaker 4: But that doesn't make him your allies. That just means

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Speaker 4: that they're they're looking out for themselves in their family.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, twenty half the tough. Charlie's checking in from BALTIMORECE

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Speaker 1: on like two grand rising, Charles. You're home with Brandon.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's how you don Brandon m good morning. All right,

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Speaker 5: all right, Well, I gotta look at what Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: is doing, and I'm really amazed by it because it

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Speaker 5: seems like he's real money hungry, and I don't understand it.

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Speaker 5: You know, every time I turn around, he's trying to

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Speaker 5: make money for the country, like this is his own finances.

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Speaker 5: I mean, is that what presidents actually do? Because you know,

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Speaker 5: we should be having, you know, something different. You know,

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Speaker 5: we should be having a federal reserve. But instead it's

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Speaker 5: like Donald Trump is raising this money to put in

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Speaker 5: the federal with deserve, and the federal reserve is being

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Speaker 5: used like a rainy day fund. We keep saying, where

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Speaker 5: is all the money coming to fund all of this?

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Speaker 5: And then it comes out of the federal reserve or

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Speaker 5: the rainy day fund or all these other places which

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Speaker 5: are not traditional. Is that, you know, really the thing

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Speaker 5: that is telling us that the government ended in nineteen

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Speaker 5: ninety nine because we don't have checks and balances anymore,

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Speaker 5: because we don't have a traditional federal reserve, because they're

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Speaker 5: making up stuff as they go, and now we're about

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Speaker 5: selling America.

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Speaker 1: Let's give a chance to respond. Thanks, Charles, thanks for

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Speaker 1: your caring it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I that's a very good question. I thought

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Speaker 4: he first he was going to go down the road

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Speaker 4: of how Trump is money hunger and his family or

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Speaker 4: just you know, it's remarkable snatches and cash grabs, everything

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Speaker 4: from crypto to you know, selling Trump's shoes to But

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's ridiculous and it's remarkably corrupt

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Speaker 4: in the face of it. Just because you're doing something

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Speaker 4: out front and doesn't make it okay. But I will

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Speaker 4: say this, David K. Johnson, I don't know Johnston excuse.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you ever had him on. He's

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Speaker 4: a journalist and an author, but he mostly deals with

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Speaker 4: the economy. Talked about over the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 4: the FED has made these remarkable cash infusions into the system,

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Speaker 4: to the banking systems, you know, tens and tens of

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Speaker 4: billions at a time, which he thinks and I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying this is me, I'm saying this is from what

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Speaker 4: I saw him say. He thinks that it is a

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Speaker 4: sign that they're trying to keep some of these banks afloat.

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Speaker 4: Now do I think that's possible, Absolutely, I absolutely do.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that Trump had any any great plan

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Speaker 4: or scheme. And also even Project twenty twenty five is

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Speaker 4: as insane as it is when you start basing things

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Speaker 4: on hate and in this country and in division what

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Speaker 4: you don't have is industry. What you don't have is

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Speaker 4: the best the resources that you can use. And so

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Speaker 4: when that's when that immediately falls behind, you end up

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Speaker 4: with giant holes and gaps in the Nation's almost as

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Speaker 4: if car you could write a sci fi movie about

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Speaker 4: basically excuse me, an outside of by political thriller about

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Speaker 4: how some other nations came together to put Trump in

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Speaker 4: to do damage to this country because so much is

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Speaker 4: it being done, and I don't think people really understand

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Speaker 4: they will if they start going through pain and a

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Speaker 4: pain that doesn't let up, that can't find relief. One

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Speaker 4: of the biggest problems with President Obama is that he

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Speaker 4: actually helped usher people through some of those hardest times.

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Speaker 4: He really did, which weren't started by him. It was

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Speaker 4: started by Bush, you know, but he was the remedy

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Speaker 4: and he did such a good job, just like Biden

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Speaker 4: who did such a good job after the first Trump

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Speaker 4: debacle that not enough people I think went through the paint.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if anybody wanted the baby on that, all

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Speaker 4: you have to do is look at the uh, look

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Speaker 4: at the farmers and the farmers distant right, remember the

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Speaker 4: soybean farmer, the first Trump's first administration, who were you know,

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Speaker 4: flattened because the Trump started some he created some wackle

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Speaker 4: trade war with China. Hey, China, you know, went for

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Speaker 4: the went for the throat for the soybean marketing and

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Speaker 4: basically threw a bunch of those farmers out of something

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Speaker 4: that they've been building for generations. And it ended with

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Speaker 4: them getting a handout from the government of our tax dollars.

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Speaker 4: And they voted for Trump and then they turned around

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Speaker 4: and voted for him again. And the same thing is happening,

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Speaker 4: and he he's using the and he's going back to

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Speaker 4: the trough and getting people's money, getting taxpayer's money to

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Speaker 4: pay off some people. And it's not going to them

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Speaker 4: basically too, it's going to the bigger farmers, but to

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Speaker 4: pay off some people who voted for the cruelty to happen,

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Speaker 4: but not just not to them, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And I mean jumping here since we're talking about the farmers,

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Speaker 1: you know, because he brought in a lot of white

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Speaker 1: farmers who say their farmers are confiscating in South Africa,

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Speaker 1: these Africanas at the expense of black farmers. And you

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Speaker 1: mentioned that he you know, he paid out these white

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Speaker 1: farmers in the soybean industry, but our black farmers got zilps.

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Speaker 1: They got nothing, and they're still still trying to get paid. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if they don't exist, it's if our labor are sweat,

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Speaker 4: our contributions don't exist. And when Dadie Vance gets up

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Speaker 4: and says that white people no longer have to apologize

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Speaker 4: for being white, black folks that have never asked white

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Speaker 4: folks to or, let me put it this way, have

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Speaker 4: been part of the Afro American diaspora to look for apologies, restitution, Yes, accountability, yes,

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Speaker 4: as we've stood on the shoulders of many of our

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Speaker 4: ancestors who were drowned, burnt, and bombed in this nation

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Speaker 4: just for being. And the main thing that we ask,

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Speaker 4: and the main thing is a very simple term, stop

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Speaker 4: stop the bs that you're doing, stop the humanization, stop

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Speaker 4: the horrid actions that you're doing to keep us pushed

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Speaker 4: down economically, physically, and yet and still it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 4: At the same time, you create a refugee class out

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Speaker 4: of whole cloth, thin air, so that you can bring

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Speaker 4: white folks in as a just because of the color

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Speaker 4: of the skin.

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Speaker 7: Carl.

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Speaker 4: There's no cultural connection or reputation, just the the low

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Speaker 4: melanin count to initiate your own replacement plan to replace

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Speaker 4: people of color, because they're being outburst almost all over

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Speaker 4: the world, but specifically in some parts of the United

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Speaker 4: States of America.

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Speaker 1: I mention here because we're compound break. How did you

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Speaker 1: see that what Van said about why folks don't have

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Speaker 1: to apologize? You think it was response to the call

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Speaker 1: for reparations. You think that was that's what he was

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Speaker 1: hinting at, or think I.

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Speaker 4: Think it was a dog whistle for racist. It's interesting.

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Speaker 4: I don't it's going to be really I mean, I

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Speaker 4: don't know how he had to explain it to his wife,

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Speaker 4: if she can even still be called that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: at a certain points here you have to turn into

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Speaker 4: a familiar once a person starts saying so many racist stuff,

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Speaker 4: and you, yourself are a melanin carrier, and they have children.

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Speaker 4: At some point, those children are going to become polignantly

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Speaker 4: and politically cognizant, and they're going to ask questions how

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Speaker 4: what happened? You know, about how you could say something

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Speaker 4: like that, you know, as a father of children of color,

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Speaker 4: and it's probably you know and hold that's.

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Speaker 1: All right there, We're gonna step aside for a film.

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Speaker 1: Wants to check the news, trafficking, weather, And when we

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Speaker 1: come back, the question for you branded, since you mentioned that,

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Speaker 1: do you think the American people will vote for him

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Speaker 1: to become the next president. Of course, he's got a

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Speaker 1: wife that's melanatey, and he's got melanatey children, and he's

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Speaker 1: saying all these things as if they don't exist. So

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Speaker 1: when we come back and which your thoughts, can can

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Speaker 1: he sell that to? You know, how does he sell

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Speaker 1: that to his family? And how does he sell it

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Speaker 1: to the American people because he definitely wants to be

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Speaker 1: president and he's got a lot of people behind him

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Speaker 1: who are going to help him in that India. But family,

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Speaker 1: you two can join our conversation political blog of Branding.

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Speaker 1: Just reach out to us at eight hundred four to

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Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight semit sixty. I'll take your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: We check the news, traffick and sports and weather. That's

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Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising family, thanks for starting you're week

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Speaker 1: with us at sixteen minutes away from the top there

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Speaker 1: with the political Blog of Brandon. Before we go back

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Speaker 1: to Brandon, let me tell you. Coming up late this morning,

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Speaker 1: you can hear from the University of Houston's Africana Studies

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01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: professor doctor Old Horn, and it's going to talk about

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Speaker 1: of course you're going to talk about ven Isuela, but

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Speaker 1: also it's going to talk about the issue of slavery

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Speaker 1: in East and North Africa, the bombings in Nigeria, Israel's

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Speaker 1: recognition of Somali land, the threat of an attack on

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Speaker 1: Iran and Cuba. And also we're going to ask him

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Speaker 1: about the alleged coup, that attempted coup that took place

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Speaker 1: in Bokina Fossa a couple of days ago. So all

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Speaker 1: that's coming up later this morning with doctor Gerald Horn.

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Speaker 1: Late this week you're going to hear from futuristic researcher

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Speaker 1: brother Sadika mccari, also a physician as a scientist, Doctor

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Speaker 1: Velvet Bulls will join us. Also, we're going to take

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Speaker 1: a look back at Altadena, that area in California that

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Speaker 1: was scorched and a lot of people in our family,

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Speaker 1: folks of our found black folks in the Altadena area

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Speaker 1: close where Brannan lives too. They lost their horns because

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Speaker 1: of that fire that was a year ago on the seventh.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to take a look at that with

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Speaker 1: some of those folks are impacted by that fire. But

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Speaker 1: right now we're speaking with Brandon, and Brandon, you know,

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Speaker 1: I got it. You know, if you can forego my

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01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 1: question for you a moment ago because I had a

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Speaker 1: tweet question for you and I sort of lost the

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Speaker 1: tweet question for you the TWEETA wanted to let me

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Speaker 1: see if I can find it. But I'll let you

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Speaker 1: finish respond to my question if you can recall what

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01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: it is because I got caught up in.

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Speaker 4: A convert jd Vance and will will he be? What

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01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 4: jd Vance has that Trump doesn't have is that he

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01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 4: has these these tech bros who think they're Uberman. She

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Speaker 4: is the pet of Peter Teal, who is I would say, uh,

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Speaker 4: this the shell half of this whole kind of this

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01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 4: this new aged clan that we have running this nation.

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Speaker 4: Peter Till's money. He is the founder of PayPal, and

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Speaker 4: he also invested in He for instance, has a mentor

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Speaker 4: mentee relationship with a man named Sam sam Altman, who

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Speaker 4: is the who was the progenitor of chat GPT, which

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Speaker 4: you know hit the even though Google was first chat.

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Speaker 4: He came in with a bigger splash and has hit

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Speaker 4: up a lot of people with the AI and learning

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Speaker 4: l l ms and so on and so forth. And

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Speaker 4: he's worth a couple of billion dollars. Peter Tielsworth, he's

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Speaker 4: one of the one of the more richer men in

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Speaker 4: in on the planet. But they have this whole tech

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Speaker 4: bro thing comes out of Silicon thinking, this kind of

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Speaker 4: pro natalism.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 4: The Peter till is South African. Also one of his

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Speaker 4: uh mentees that he brought up was Elon Musk. Elon

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Speaker 4: Musk actually invested with Peter tell He was an early investor.

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Speaker 4: They were rivals for about you know, three weeks, and

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Speaker 4: then uh Teal bought his company and and the rest

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Speaker 4: is history, as they say. So, Peter Tiel has been

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Speaker 4: one of the more movers and shakers of the chessboard

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Speaker 4: in the United States politics as of late. And that

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Speaker 4: is and he has been Jadie Vance's handler. He also

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Speaker 4: has he he is the reason j Event even had

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Speaker 4: a career. And I'm not talking about just a career

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Speaker 4: in politics. I'm talking about a career, you know, basic career,

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Speaker 4: not just his service and what he did in the nation,

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Speaker 4: but also after that and then later on his run

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Speaker 4: for political office. So that's who kind of that's too vance.

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Speaker 4: Advance has the ear of the modern day people who

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Speaker 4: would consider themselves the ubermensch of the twenty first century.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha to have a way from the top of Brandon,

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Speaker 1: this is what I was searching for, because again a

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Speaker 1: lot of tweets coming in. This tweeter says greetings, Please

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Speaker 1: ask Brandon if he feels that black people should actually

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Speaker 1: be rejoicing that this American empire is crumbling, and does

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Speaker 1: he think this creates opportunities for us black folks? Has

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Speaker 1: direct our own destiny?

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Speaker 4: You know, I would I would connect that, And any

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Speaker 4: answer to that is to what happened with my donnies

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Speaker 4: rise in uh New York home when when people were

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Speaker 4: kind of quizical about why black people weren't over overwhelmingly

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Speaker 4: accepting him, and because of some of the policies that

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Speaker 4: he was talking about in that microcusing is a lot

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Speaker 4: easier to see a lot of brothers and sistans have

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Speaker 4: invested a great deal of their hard working money and

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Speaker 4: time to benefit from that that that hard work and

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Speaker 4: the birth of their children and raising their children in

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Speaker 4: certain positions and put themselves into, you know, acquiring some

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Speaker 4: sort of and I'm not and I'm not, I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't want to use the word wealth per se,

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Speaker 4: you know, because I don't want people to think that

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about, you know, getting abundantly wealthy, But I

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Speaker 4: am talking about like a monetary structure of personal economy

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Speaker 4: that they've invested in, sending their kids to school, getting

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Speaker 4: their kids launched off to be to be something in

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Speaker 4: this world, so they can maybe change the world for

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Speaker 4: a better space, in a better place. And to say

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Speaker 4: that you want all that to crumble now, it would

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Speaker 4: be at odds with some of those plans. So I

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Speaker 4: think sometimes we have to be very careful about what

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Speaker 4: we're talking about now. And I've said this before and

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Speaker 4: I actually have a piece that I'm very doing about this.

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Speaker 4: Older Black people need younger Black people. We need to

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Speaker 4: kind of get off this tip where we're talking about

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Speaker 4: they don't know nothing, they're just doing this. You need

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Speaker 4: people who don't have the roots that you have, because

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Speaker 4: sometimes moves need to be made by people who cannot

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Speaker 4: be controlled by those roots. They also have the energy

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Speaker 4: and their new way of thinking, quite often is what

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01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 4: needs to occur to make changes in directions of the nation.

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01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 4: At the same time, younger black people need older black

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01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 4: people to maybe explain to them the pitfalls that they

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01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 4: may come across, to give them the benefit of having

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01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 4: been there for at least a map of success on

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01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 4: how to do this, and also the resources that older

1501
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 4: black folks may have I can help them move forward.

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01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 4: So there needs to be a balance of us having

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01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 4: conversations to make these things happen and make them move forward.

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01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, I will say that that, you know, the

1505
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 4: whole thing about wanting to burn all the way to

1506
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 4: the ground and sayf you know, anarchists always say this

1507
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 4: all the time, and they don't say specifically in violence,

1508
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 4: but they do say that the system should, you know,

1509
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 4: roll over and be destroyed. In many cases, I'm against

1510
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 4: crony capitalism, I'm against corrupt capitalism, but I am not

1511
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 4: a communist in that sense. I'm for I believe in entrepreneurship,

1512
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 4: and I believe that there ain't nobody who is better

1513
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 4: at trying to move forward truthfully than blackfaulk. So to

1514
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 4: say that I want the whole system to no, I don't.

1515
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 4: I don't personally don't, and I don't think that most people,

1516
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 4: because you know, Carl, unless you kind of scene what

1517
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 4: can come of that. At the bottom of that ladder,

1518
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,919
Speaker 4: if you're talking about a civilization crumbling or the system crumbling,

1519
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 4: the brutes take over. At the bottom of that ladder,

1520
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 4: the Trumps takeover, which is why they always try to

1521
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 4: tear everything down to that right, because their authoritarianism is

1522
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 4: based on controlling you through what you think you need,

1523
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 4: through through through the fear of you not getting what

1524
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 4: you think you need. Excuse me, So you know, that's

1525
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 4: why they always One thing Trump can do is he

1526
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 4: can create demons, and they demonize, you know, groups of people,

1527
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 4: They demonize countries, they demonize ideas and concepts so that

1528
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 4: they can say only I can protect you, you know

1529
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And I'm not sure a lot of

1530
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 4: people are willing for civilization to crumble to that era

1531
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 4: where everywhere you turn you have to deal with somebody

1532
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 4: like that, you know who who you know. Crony capitalism

1533
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 4: makes it engine where everybody, you know, as long as

1534
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 4: they pay everybody off. That's the law, you know, that's

1535
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 4: the new law. Ma'n. Donnie came into office and he's

1536
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 4: looking at changing some of the laws for what landlords

1537
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 4: can charge and excuse me, what the taxes they'll pay.

1538
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 4: So if they raise rents on people, that's a good thing.

1539
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 4: That puts a little bit more power in the pocket

1540
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 4: of the renter. And and so imagine if if you

1541
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 4: if every block was different, you know, if everything crumbles,

1542
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 4: and every block and every landlord as long as they paid,

1543
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 4: you know, the big boss whatever could do, could charge

1544
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 4: whatever they want and do whatever they want. So you know, yeah,

1545
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 4: I'm not for civilization turning up a belly in that

1546
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 4: particular situation.

1547
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: Nah, shaving away from that topic, let me throw in

1548
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: my two cents. You know, I think we're so into

1549
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 1: woven in the fabric of this country that it's going

1550
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: to affect all of us, not just black people. White

1551
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 1: folks are going to get impacted too by this. They're

1552
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: very big, and I think we have been through so much.

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01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: We're resilient, we used to being hardships. We can deal

1554
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: with it. But if some of them they've never seen

1555
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: what's coming down the pike, and bigga ones are going

1556
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: to be really when they're impacted by some of these changes.

1557
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: The ones are going to really have a time struggling

1558
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: with to do it. But what we you know, we expect,

1559
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: we know how to deal with it. We can bounce back.

1560
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 4: You know that there's some there's some dirty appellations.

1561
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 7: You know that.

1562
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 4: They're hardy right up in there. I'm not gonna take

1563
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 4: it away from from people whose families, you know, dug

1564
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 4: coal out of mountains for generations. I'm not gonna take

1565
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 4: it out of people whose families you know, took dirt

1566
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 4: patches and turned them into you know, uh, generating farms. Hey,

1567
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 4: hard work is hard work. And I'm not gonna say

1568
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 4: that other people can't go through and lessen. I will

1569
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 4: say that the ruling class in this country has now

1570
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 4: has such generational wealth that you do that that that

1571
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 4: that the politics and the nature of politics have kept

1572
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 4: them empowered to the point where you have someone who

1573
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 4: is come completely ill fitted for a job r FK Jr.

1574
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 4: Who is you know, he's deconstructing one of the greatest

1575
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 4: institutions in the history. And I say this, and I

1576
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 4: don't say this lightly because you know, in a way

1577
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 4: of science and understanding a germ theory in the possible

1578
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 4: in what vaccinations have done uh to the world in

1579
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 4: you know, don't get me started on anti vaxer's But

1580
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 4: r fk Jr. Has done a tremendous amount of damage

1581
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 4: to the CDC, to our health system. And he's he's

1582
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 4: not only is he linking questions and questioning things, it's

1583
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 4: it's proven science, but they have defunded many projects that

1584
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 4: actually affect black folks directly, right and saying just what

1585
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 4: you're saying. The only reason why he got the job

1586
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 4: is because he's rfk Jr. He's not qualified for that job.

1587
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,959
Speaker 4: He's just he's just a white guy. You know, he's

1588
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 4: a lawyer, but he he's not a he's not a

1589
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 4: science just any in any respect, any in any nature.

1590
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 4: You're close to being able to have a job for

1591
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 4: healthcare for millions upon millions of people, not just the

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01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 4: United States, because the CDC and in the reach of

1593
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 4: the United States, as our armies and our power reached forward,

1594
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 4: so do some of our programs and in institutions as well.

1595
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 4: Excuse me, and he he got that because of you know,

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01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 4: just the just the name that that's who I think

1597
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 4: you're talking about that hasn't gone through what what a

1598
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 4: lot of us have gone to. It's that ruling class

1599
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 4: that's what you're talking about. But I ain't gonna take

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01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:39,879
Speaker 4: nothing away from folks. Hey, heart's gravels, hearts gravel Karl right.

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01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: For away from the top, Bran. Let me just say this.

1602
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: Later this week doctor Bowles will be here and she

1603
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: has some worries about her thoughts about RFK Junior. But

1604
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned him being not not you know, for the job.

1605
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 1: He's a lawyer or he went to law school and

1606
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 1: just put it that way, and he didn't go to

1607
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: med school in charge of the health devepartment in the

1608
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: But isn't that you can say that about all the

1609
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: the person said Donald Trump is so likeed to run

1610
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: all these government agencies. So what if you look into

1611
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: that background, do they have the credentials? Could they have

1612
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 1: done it under any other circumstances?

1613
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 7: Right?

1614
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 4: I mean this you mentioned hagsis you know what what

1615
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 4: qualifications does he have anywhere near to to to be

1616
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 4: where they changes to the Department of War?

1617
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 11: Is that?

1618
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 7: What is that is?

1619
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 4: They did they change along with the Gulf of America

1620
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 4: a Golf of America in the in the Department of War?

1621
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 4: Where does he have any of the qualifications to be

1622
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 4: uh to be and to do the.

1623
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 5: Things that he's doing.

1624
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 4: What does he what are those what are those uh

1625
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 4: come from? Where does Linda McMahon have the qualifications to

1626
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 4: be the Secretary of Education?

1627
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 7: That?

1628
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 4: That's that that is an insult to every person who

1629
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 4: went to school, studied, worked their butts off to become

1630
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 4: an edge cater in the United States at whatever level

1631
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 4: I'm talking about, from toddlers all the way to the

1632
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 4: tip top of some of the oldest, you know, doctors

1633
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 4: in the nation. You put someone like that in charge

1634
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,719
Speaker 4: of this Department of Education, of which I think they've

1635
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 4: moved a section of it to the Department of Labor,

1636
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 4: you know, yeah.

1637
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold that thought right there. I'll let you sum

1638
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: it up when we get back two minutes away from

1639
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: the top of a half, Family, Brandon, we got to

1640
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: check the trafficking within at different cities. Family, you want

1641
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: to get in on this conversation with Brandon, reach out

1642
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: to us. He's a political blogger. You can hit us

1643
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: up at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

1644
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take calls next and Grand Rising Family, Fanks.

1645
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: You're starting your week with us, and I guess the

1646
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 1: political blogger Brandon like to speak to Brandon reach out

1647
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight

1648
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: seventy six. Got a tweet question for you, Brandon, Tweeter says,

1649
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: please ask Brandon other than FDR, what other politician implemented

1650
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 1: state or citywide progressive programs like mcdomie's attempting a boot.

1651
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Do you know of any.

1652
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, l b J with uh uh medicare Actually I

1653
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 4: would say Truman because Truman desegregated the army uh in

1654
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 4: it well broadly, Lincoln actually did that early on. Progressive

1655
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 4: is a you know, it can be kind of frosty

1656
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 4: because you know, what was considered progressive. Then we look

1657
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 4: at now as you know, uh normal or even in

1658
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 4: some cases slightly slightly conservative. But when you're talking about

1659
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 4: whether or not we're even looked upon as being human,

1660
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 4: you know, the scale uh flies a little bit. But yeah,

1661
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 4: there have been, there have been. The funny thing is

1662
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 4: that Truman actually had there were there were stories of

1663
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 4: Truman having links and ties to to the KKK when

1664
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 4: he first started his political career. Uh. We We also

1665
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 4: do know that LBJ would have called himself a what

1666
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 4: was is a term that was used specific for his

1667
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 4: type of politics. As a Southern cracker, you need you

1668
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 4: needed an LBJ. Excuse me, Kennedy needed an LBJ to

1669
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 4: finish out his his national portfolio of power. LBJ was

1670
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 4: indeed probably the most powerful politician in the nation.

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01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: And so he though, did did LBJ believe in what

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01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 1: Kennedy was doing it? Or or and just wanted to

1673
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 1: finish Kennedy's plan? Or was that his you know, being

1674
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: from the south, because we know that's why Kennedy depicted

1675
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 1: him to get the Southern vote. Do you believe that

1676
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: this is he actually believed in what the Kennedys were sailing.

1677
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 4: It wasn't just the Southern vote. People forget that the

1678
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 4: Southern went for white folks. The Southern went very you

1679
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 4: know far into the north. By the time I was

1680
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 4: coming up, they called those type of politicians blue dogs,

1681
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 4: the ones that that were basically uh that had very

1682
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 4: racist districts, and they went all the way up to

1683
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 4: the border of Canada.

1684
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:14,680
Speaker 15: So he was.

1685
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 4: But his his power and his influence. Absolutely he wanted

1686
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 4: Kennedy needed those quote unquote Southern votes, but he needed

1687
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 4: the power that LBJ had. It's interesting because a lot

1688
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 4: of people talk about Kennedy as being this great president

1689
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 4: and Camelot Southern Kennedy. You know, Okayed surveillance on doctor King. Uh,

1690
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 4: the Bay of Pigs was a disaster. There's you know,

1691
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 4: there are there are a lot of l's that he

1692
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 4: took in his short period of time. He he his

1693
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 4: speech about going to the Moon was in the Moon

1694
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: was a in response to a couple of l's that

1695
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 4: he had already taken, and the nation gearing up for

1696
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 4: that was partly because of the space race with the

1697
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 4: Soviet unions, which beat us in almost every category except

1698
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 4: landing somewhere and on the moon. So they first have

1699
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 4: a man and a woman in space and to do orbit,

1700
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 4: and first satellite and first to senna an increase here

1701
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 4: in the space, first to go around the Moon with

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01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 4: with a satellite, with a with spacecraft. So yeah, lbj's agenda,

1703
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 4: in my opinion, was his own. It was remarkably progressive

1704
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 4: for the time, and he basically said, I guess I

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01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 4: think he said to himself that I'm going to do

1706
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 4: these things while I can. I'm going to do it.

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01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 4: And it took it would take a person who was

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01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 4: so powerful to do the stuff that he did. Now

1709
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 4: mind you some of the things that he initiated at first,

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01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 4: you know, once again, just like social Security when when

1711
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 4: our FDR put him in black folks couldn't get they

1712
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 4: couldn't get that, the medical what's the name, early on,

1713
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 4: they couldn't they be you know what I'm saying. So

1714
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 4: you know, there is there goes that fatalism that you

1715
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 4: were talking about about what we've been through and how

1716
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 4: we you know, we we understand and am I saying

1717
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 4: this understanding? I think we're understanding. I'm saying, we know,

1718
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 4: you know how policies that are supposed to help everybody

1719
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 4: don't always help everybody. And this is why we're able

1720
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 4: to look at I think Trump a bit more clearly.

1721
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 4: There are there's still a pod of brothers who are

1722
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 4: MAGA who I think that you know, if they're not

1723
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 4: in on a griff, they're certainly you know they're they're

1724
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 4: they're delusional, But that's up to them, you know. I

1725
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,879
Speaker 4: think the rest of us are pretty pretty well solidified

1726
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 4: and understanding. That does mean we agree with everything else

1727
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 4: in the world, but we can't agree that there's a

1728
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 4: danger that goes on with you know, looking towards what

1729
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 4: MAGA and what Trump.

1730
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 5: Have to offer.

1731
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, Vice President Harrison did release

1732
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 4: the statement. In part of the statement, she said that

1733
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 4: the President is putting troops at risk, spending billions these

1734
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 4: stables in a region and offering no legal authority, no

1735
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 4: exit plan, and no benefit at home. He said, this

1736
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 4: is not about drugs and democracy. It's about oil and

1737
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 4: Donald Trump's desire to play the regional strong man. If

1738
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 4: he cared about either, he wouldn't pardon a convicted drug

1739
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 4: draft drug trafficker. We talked about that earlier, the former

1740
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 4: leader of Honduras or who actually went to jail, who

1741
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 4: was tried and convicted by the Biden administration. He wouldn't

1742
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 4: partner a convict drug dector or sideline Venezuela's legitimate opposition

1743
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 4: while pursuing deals with Maduro cronies. And that's another thing,

1744
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 4: you know, Malcolm Nance, I don't know if you know

1745
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 4: who he is a car I think you do, Carl.

1746
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:46,719
Speaker 4: He's a former special ops military man who became pretty

1747
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 4: you know, famous for his talking head appearances all throughout

1748
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 4: our media. He actually pointed something out very important. He said,

1749
01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 4: you know, Trump is not decapitating Venezuelan power. He just

1750
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 4: got rid of Maduro. He didn't get rid of any

1751
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 4: of the commanders that kept him in power. That's very

1752
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 4: important to understand, because what are you creating. If you're

1753
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 4: creating a vacuum, what you're going to see happen there

1754
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 4: is revolution unless those commanders are kind of brought to

1755
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 4: heel or at least paid off by the entities that

1756
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,759
Speaker 4: are coming in, which is supposed to be the oil company.

1757
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 4: I mean, this is you know, this is remarkable that

1758
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 4: this happened. In some of the language that is being

1759
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 4: used at this particular moment, this is stuff that would

1760
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 4: never have flown. Well, we're going to say what thirty

1761
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 4: years ago, the way that things have gone is just

1762
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 4: it's just so crash and it's it's it's important that

1763
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 4: it's that it's actually being said out front, because, like

1764
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 4: you were saying, they're international crimes connected to this international war,

1765
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 4: crimes connected to this. I mean, even down, I don't

1766
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 4: think people even understand. You're not supposed to frog march

1767
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 4: leaders and such, not as leaders and such, but you

1768
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,759
Speaker 4: know prisoners when you take them prisons, you're not supposed

1769
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 4: to do that, and they certainly did that with Maduro.

1770
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 4: They certainly did that.

1771
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Speaker 1: Yeah, as part of the plant to dehumanizing that was

1772
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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, Brandon, before we let you go,

1773
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: you're working on you're working on it for the Altadena fires.

1774
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Speaker 1: Can you give us more information on that way? Can

1775
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 1: we see that?

1776
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, my, my, I'll put a link in when

1777
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 4: it's done for you so you can put it out.

1778
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 4: There's just it's just a piece in my experience in

1779
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 4: dealing with the fire the first couple of days, and

1780
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 4: then later on what happened in the recovery, and then

1781
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 4: you know, what's going on today. Like I said, one

1782
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 4: of the most important stories that we've had out here

1783
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 4: physically is that we've you know, had so much rain,

1784
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 4: a constant, consistent range, and that hasn't been storming. It's

1785
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,919
Speaker 4: not something you're going to read about in all the papers,

1786
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 4: but it's really really important. But you know, even even

1787
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 4: as a personal side, Carl, you know, I let my lawn,

1788
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 4: my backyard has overgrown with green because that was one

1789
01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 4: of the things that I saw that that worked out

1790
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 4: as a retardant for some of the homes that didn't burn.

1791
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 4: When I went and looked up and I also ran

1792
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 4: into a neighbor that's about a half a mile away

1793
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 4: from me or a mile away from excuse me, And

1794
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,719
Speaker 4: we had a conversation about those days and how one

1795
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 4: did this one the neighborhood was evacuated and one college

1796
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 4: kid stayed and when the fire jumped the street to

1797
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 4: a front lawn, he actually put the fire out. He

1798
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 4: used somebody's hose to put the fire out and possibly

1799
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 4: saved what could have probably would have ended up being,

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Speaker 4: you know, the western half of Pasadena, a good chunk

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01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 4: of the western Pasadena. He was the only cat there,

1802
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 4: the only one person. An extraordinary story, just an extraordinary story.

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01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 3: Sure.

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01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to talk about that as well later

1805
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 1: this week with one of the I guess you call

1806
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: it her, a survivor of the Altadena fires. She's going

1807
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: to be here this week. But Brandon, thank you again,

1808
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 1: and thank you for the information, and thank you for

1809
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 1: showing me around after the fires. We went out there,

1810
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 1: Brandon was my escort to show me how that because

1811
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: that's this neighborhood he lives in that was burned down,

1812
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 1: and all the is it back is that school back? Is?

1813
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,360
Speaker 1: You showed me a school that was on the corner

1814
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 1: and across the street from anything at all, this or

1815
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: a Bank of America.

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01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 4: That's Elliott Elliott Elliott Middle School. They've actually done some demolition,

1817
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 4: demolition of the of the Great Hall. Uh So they're

1818
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 4: moving forward. There's a lot of some businesses are not.

1819
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 4: And I explained that to you. I said, you know,

1820
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 4: especially with some of the homes. A lot of the

1821
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 4: people and businesses were asked rich and cash poor. Some

1822
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:41,560
Speaker 4: have sold, some haven't. That you know, there is a divide.

1823
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 4: There is a divide, uh in in in what strategies

1824
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 4: they should use, you know, me and you talked about

1825
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 4: that as well, because some black people say, hey, look,

1826
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 4: we're gonna you know, we're gonna get up. But I

1827
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 4: do want to say this one thing before I go.

1828
01:41:55,600 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 4: We went to a park called Charles White Park, and

1829
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 4: anybody can look him up. Charles White is one of

1830
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 4: the great artists, one of the great graphic artists as well,

1831
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 4: and of the United States. He's a black man, started

1832
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 4: in Chicago, actually started down south and ended up getting

1833
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 4: his bones in Chicago. And then he chose Alta Dina

1834
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 4: as his as his place to teach, as his ground

1835
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 4: zero to mentor people. And he's a brother and it

1836
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 4: is a is a black man that has a park

1837
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 4: up there, and I took Carl up there and we

1838
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 4: just looked at because some of the area around him

1839
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 4: was completely flattened, but the park, of course, being in park,

1840
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 4: it stayed stayed together. But as a very if anyone

1841
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 4: want to call it, any kind of thing connecting with

1842
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 4: the ancestors to be able to stand there at the

1843
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 4: very least and say, okay, maybe we can rebuild around here.

1844
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 4: So I think that they're going. They still have a

1845
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 4: lot Carl ahead of them. I don't know financially how

1846
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 4: it's going to, you know, play out. A lot of

1847
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 4: people are still trying to stay strong and stay in

1848
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 4: the neighborhood, so we'll see. I have a lot of

1849
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 4: family up there, like I told you, you know, I

1850
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 4: spent a great deal of my youth up there.

1851
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, Brandon, thanks for sharing that with

1852
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 1: us this morning.

1853
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, take care of Car all right, Fain.

1854
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 1: That's the political block of Brandon thirteen at the top. Now,

1855
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: let's bringing doctor Gerald Horn, doctor Horn, Grant Rising, welcome

1856
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: back to the program.

1857
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 7: How are you for inviting me, Doctor Horn?

1858
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: First off the bat, we are you surprised what happened

1859
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: with the man with Mandu Wait, does is that shock

1860
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 1: you or did you expect that at some point that

1861
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 1: was down the road that was part of the plan

1862
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 1: for this administration.

1863
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 15: Well, I expected what they call in the Pentagon kinetic action,

1864
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:41,440
Speaker 15: that is to say, I expected bombings, perhaps an invasion,

1865
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 15: And I was not necessarily shocked by the chipnapping of

1866
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 15: President Maduro and his spouse. Of course, they'll be entering

1867
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 15: a courthouse in Manhattan within the next hour or so.

1868
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 15: It was a blatant violation of US law, a blatant

1869
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 15: violation of international law. Mister Trump has gone further to

1870
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 15: threaten other nations in the hemisphere, including Mexico, Colombia, Cuba.

1871
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 15: Of course, it is not necessarily going to play well

1872
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:20,520
Speaker 15: around the world. There's been condemnation from Brazil, Colombia, Mexico, Cuba.

1873
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 15: Of course, the Europeans, particularly the French, have been relatively

1874
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,600
Speaker 15: mute because recalled that it was about a decade and

1875
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 15: a half or so that French paratroopers went into Cote

1876
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 15: de Vois Ivory coast and kidnapped the presidential candidate Laurent

1877
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 15: Bacco and his spouse, took them off to the Hague

1878
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 15: to stand trial, and of course they were acquitted and

1879
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 15: are back in their homeland. But in any event, we're

1880
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 15: entering a very dangerous new moment because if kidnapping of

1881
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 15: leaders is fair play, that won't necessarily just be outside

1882
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 15: of the United States. That could easily take place inside

1883
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 15: at the United States.

1884
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: M check that fifteen and a half that topic, uh,

1885
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 1: doctor Horn. The UN is going to meet today at

1886
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 1: the same time that Madua is going to be uh

1887
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:14,879
Speaker 1: facing these charges in in the other part of Manhattan

1888
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 1: and Lower Manhattan. What's what's what can they u N

1889
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 1: do though? Can you just pass the resolution condemned him?

1890
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: It is it just tooth listen? Can they the u N,

1891
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, imposed restrictions, do anything about what Donald Trump

1892
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: is doing because he's doing with unchecked impunity. What can

1893
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 1: the United Nations do.

1894
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 15: Well, it's at the Security Council, and Security Council is split.

1895
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 15: That's to say that the United States has a veto

1896
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:46,799
Speaker 15: number one, number two. It's unclear if other permanent members

1897
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 15: such as Britain and France would ratify an anti US resolution.

1898
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 15: So there will be a lot of far breathing rhetoric.

1899
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 15: But I think that you have to look at what's

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01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 15: happening incrementally. Increasingly, the United States is becoming isolated. Increasingly

1901
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 15: countries are looking to China and Russia for protection and

1902
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,959
Speaker 15: that does not necessarily bode well for Washington.

1903
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 1: All Right, we come up with a break, Dr Horn family,

1904
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 1: You want to get in on this conversation with our

1905
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: guest is doctor Gerald Horney teaching the University of Houston.

1906
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 1: So about we're talking about what's going on in the

1907
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 1: world today, geopolitical analyst as well also an attorney, Doctor Horn.

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01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 1: When you come back though the role of China and

1909
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 1: Russia in this, because we understand the Russians are just there.

1910
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 1: The Chinese delegation just left, just left Venezuela just days

1911
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 1: before he was abducted. So I want you to get

1912
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: to your thoughts on that does how does that change

1913
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:51,799
Speaker 1: the global landscape now with what happened with the Manduro family.

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01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,560
Speaker 1: You want to get in on this conversation again. The

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Speaker 1: number to call to speak to doctor Gerald Horne is

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Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six,

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Speaker 1: And well take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family,

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Speaker 1: thanks for starting your week with us and our guest

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Speaker 1: that doctor Gerald Horn, Doctor Jeryl Horn is the University

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Speaker 1: of Houston Professor of Africana Studies and also as an

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Speaker 1: attorney as well. And discussing right now, we're going to

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Speaker 1: touch on several years as we do with doctor Horne,

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Speaker 1: the Maduro kidnapping, if you will, Mandua as we speak

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Speaker 1: as in Lower Manhattan in ac Courtor in Lower Manhattan.

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Speaker 1: Later this morning, the United Nation Security Accounts are going

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Speaker 1: to meet and discuss what, if anything that response they

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Speaker 1: should be. But the question I had for you before

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Speaker 1: we left for the break, Dr Horn, China and Russia,

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Speaker 1: what are their roles? What do you see their roles

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Speaker 1: in it?

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Speaker 15: Uh?

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Speaker 1: In what happened? You think they're going to speak out

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Speaker 1: because the Chinese were supporting Mandala sporting Venezuela. Do you

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Speaker 1: see do you see any changes there? What do you see?

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Speaker 1: What are you looking through your crystal ball? What do

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Speaker 1: you see?

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Speaker 15: Well, you may recall that just before President of Maduro

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Speaker 15: was kidnapped, he was meeting with Chinese representatives. That is

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Speaker 15: to say that they were conferring because Venezuela is a

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Speaker 15: major supplier of oil to China. Russia, of course, issues

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Speaker 15: a stinging condemnation of this blatant violation of international law,

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Speaker 15: and it's unclear, however, what they can do. However, we

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Speaker 15: do know that the People's Bank in Beijing helps to

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Speaker 15: support the United States government by buying US debt. That

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Speaker 15: is powerful leverage. You may recall that the South Korean

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Speaker 15: summit just in this fall from with President Trump and

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Speaker 15: President Jing that basically United States cried up because China

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Speaker 15: supplies rare earths that are essential for the production of smartphones, automobiles,

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Speaker 15: the US military industrial complex, et cetera, and so China

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Speaker 15: has a lot of leverage over the United States economy.

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Speaker 15: It's unclear, well, whether they'll will apply it. They may

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Speaker 15: wait until the United States picks off all of their

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Speaker 15: allies like Venezuela and then comes after China, but then

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Speaker 15: China will be at a disadvantageous position. I don't think

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Speaker 15: that they'll wait for that disadvantageous moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because both China and Russia demanded that the United

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Speaker 1: States release Mandua in just releasing a flat that's what

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Speaker 1: they're saying. But how does this impact say, Cuba and

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Speaker 1: all these other countries that Colombia that Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: threatening and they get well from Venezuela. How's that going

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Speaker 1: to do go down?

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Speaker 15: Well? You may recall it the marl Lago press conference

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Speaker 15: on Saturday. Marco Rubia, who happens to be a Cuban extraction,

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Speaker 15: was explicit and suggesting that the leaders of Havana should

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Speaker 15: be worried. That that has been echoed by President Trump

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Speaker 15: as a moral Lago press conference with his usual profane style,

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Speaker 15: mister Trump suggests that President Petro of Columbia should quote

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Speaker 15: watch its ass unquote. But this story is still unfolding,

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Speaker 15: that is to say, with regard to the hearing in

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Speaker 15: Lower Manhattan today, it's unclear to me if there will

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Speaker 15: be enough evidence to convict President maduroll Now the trial

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Speaker 15: will be elongated, mister Mdua may not be released until

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Speaker 15: mister Trump leaves office. But that would be quite an embarrassment,

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Speaker 15: obviously to Washington, and I have suggested publicly that the

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Speaker 15: Maduro defense team should be consulting with the top lawyers

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Speaker 15: across the United States, because one thing I know about

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Speaker 15: lawyers is they'd like to be involved in cases that

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Speaker 15: get newspaper headlines for various reasons, and that would be

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Speaker 15: quite an embarrassment. Indeed, if mister Maduro is able to walk,

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Speaker 15: although it may not happen anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Do you see any lawyers though, that would decided to

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Speaker 1: fend against Trump. It seems like they all fall in

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Speaker 1: line against it.

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Speaker 15: I mean, we'll see what happens. I know one of

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Speaker 15: the lawyers will be at the hearing today. I'm not

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Speaker 15: sure what the other lawyers will be. I have suggested

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Speaker 15: that the Extent for Constitutional Rights, which is a left

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Speaker 15: leaning public interests law firm headquartered to Manhattan, coordinate the defense,

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Speaker 15: that they should reach out to top lawyers like Theodore Wells,

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Speaker 15: who's also headquartered in Manhattan, probably the top lawyer this

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Speaker 15: trial lawyer in the United States. I doubt that then

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Speaker 15: Crump will be interested in this case because he has

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Speaker 15: enough on his plate, But there will be many lawyers

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Speaker 15: who will be begging to become involved in this defense

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Speaker 15: because it may wind up being the trial of the century.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha twenty five at the top there. Tyrone's checking in

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Speaker 1: from Baltimore has a question for his online three Grand

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Speaker 1: Rising Tyrone with doctor Gerald Horn.

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Speaker 16: Yes, yeah, that's a diff question, But Carl I sent

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Speaker 16: you a copy of the speech Fericon made about this

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Speaker 16: and the honorable mess of Lewis Fera Coon made about

2002
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Speaker 16: this in twenty nineteen when doing Trump forty five and

2003
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Speaker 16: Trump Trump was thinking about this for a long time,

2004
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Speaker 16: and he actually warned that they need to keep their

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Speaker 16: hands off Venezuela and trying to stop trying to steal

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Speaker 16: people's oil, you know. And he also says sayd that

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Speaker 16: Jimmy Carter reviewed the elections.

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Speaker 3: For Venezuela and that Jimmy Carter himself said that that's

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Speaker 3: one of the most open and honest elections he's actually inspected.

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Speaker 3: So the all of this scruggled. But about he's not

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Speaker 3: the fair president. It's probably I'm just flapping the wins

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Speaker 3: when you go into your investigation. I did have a

2013
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Speaker 3: question with regard to.

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Speaker 16: Venezuela possibly become a member of the Bricks. They're not

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Speaker 16: a member now because Brazil has not approved it, but

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Speaker 16: this may force them to become a member. And I

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Speaker 16: also would like the doctors take on what would happen

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Speaker 16: if we if these other countries de dollar rise and

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Speaker 16: explains their ways, what dedourization means in regards to the

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Speaker 16: United States.

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Speaker 3: I think my aunt Saltaire, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 15: It was already reported that Venezuela was moving away from

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Speaker 15: using the dollar in terms of petroleum sales, for example.

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Speaker 15: He may recall that whenever there's talk about a regime

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Speaker 15: moving away from the dollar, recall what happened to limbya

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Speaker 15: more than a decade and a half ago under Kadafi,

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Speaker 15: when there was talk in Triple Lee about moving away

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Speaker 15: from the dollar sooner rather than later. Mister Kadafi was dead.

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Speaker 15: But we also have to put this in a wider context.

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Speaker 15: You may recall that just a few days ago, mister

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Speaker 15: Trump issued his national security strategy, and to the surprise

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Speaker 15: of many, he did not have Russia, North China and

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Speaker 15: the crossairs. I think it's because he recognized that it's

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Speaker 15: a fool errand to confront those two giants frontally. Instead,

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Speaker 15: he said there should be a concentration on this hemisphere.

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Speaker 15: The so called Monroe doctrine of two years ago, which

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Speaker 15: he now calls the Dunroad doctrine, for example, and the

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Speaker 15: kidnapping of Maduro is the first expression of this national

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Speaker 15: security strategy, which is seeking to confront Russia and China

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Speaker 15: through the back door by basically destabilizing each and every

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Speaker 15: ally of Russia and China, because it won't stop with Maduro,

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Speaker 15: it won't stop with Mexico or Cuba. If I were

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Speaker 15: Ibraham Trory and Burkina Fossil, I'd be beefing up my security.

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Speaker 15: Even President Ramaposa in South Africa should be concerned, given

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Speaker 15: how he was ambushed in the Oval office. Even Canada

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01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 15: should be concerned given the fact that mister Trump has

2048
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Speaker 15: expressed interest in Canada becoming the fifty first state. So

2049
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Speaker 15: we're in the law of the jungle right now, and

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Speaker 15: I guarantee you it would not end well for Washington.

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Speaker 1: All right. Twenty a half the top Tyrone implied it,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't really ask it out straight. Is it

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Speaker 1: all about the oil or is there something else going

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Speaker 1: on here that we should know about.

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Speaker 15: Doctor Horne, Well, it's about the oil. It's about gold.

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Speaker 15: Venezuela has gold, Venezuela has rare earth. It's about sending

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Speaker 15: a message to other nations, particularly Brazil. Brazil was obviously

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Speaker 15: short sighted in blocking Venezuela joining the bricks, and of

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Speaker 15: course it is seeded to Argentina joining the bricks. That

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Speaker 15: was before the election of Trump ally president in Malay,

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Speaker 15: but still there was a blunder by President Luma of Brazil,

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Speaker 15: and as used to be said in the nineteenth century,

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Speaker 15: you only have to beat once slave to keep the

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Speaker 15: entire plantation in line. And this kidnapping of ahead of date,

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Speaker 15: since a message to other leaders recalled that this is

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Speaker 15: not new. Geronimo the great Native American leader, he was

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Speaker 15: kidnapped and basically died in prison. Oceola, who was a

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Speaker 15: Native American leader from Florida in the Antebellum period and

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Speaker 15: happened to be a partial African ancestry. He had come

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Speaker 15: to peace talks with the US piers and counterparts and

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Speaker 15: instead was kidnapped and wound up in prison. In fact,

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Speaker 15: he was decapitate it literally, So this is nothing new

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Speaker 15: what has happened to President Maduro, but I guarantee you

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Speaker 15: it will not end well for Washington.

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Speaker 1: Thirty minutes at the top of our family just joined us.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's doctor Gerald Horn from the University of

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Speaker 1: Houston got a question of comic reach out to us

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Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six.

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Speaker 1: Eric's calling us from Long Beach in California has a

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Speaker 1: question for doctor Horne. He's online four Grand Rising Eric

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Speaker 1: a question for doctor horn.

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Speaker 17: Good morning, Grand Rising to you and your guests. Seemed

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Speaker 17: like doctor Hornon's brought in some old old world politics

2084
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Speaker 17: and showing how they, you know, related to today. Well,

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Speaker 17: my question is, uh, what is what is Congress going

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Speaker 17: to do? Do you think Congress it's going to go

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Speaker 17: back and institute it's prerogatives coming out of the out

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Speaker 17: of the House. Of course, we're supposed to have all,

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Speaker 17: you know, three branches of equal, co equal branch of government,

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Speaker 17: but apparently just rolled over. So my question is when

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Speaker 17: do you think the Republicans is going to actually remember

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Speaker 17: that they are co equal branch of government and put

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Speaker 17: a check on what mister Trump is doing. Now take

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Speaker 17: the answer off there, Well, don't.

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Speaker 15: Hold your breast. Was a republic can control Congress to

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Speaker 15: show some backbone and spine. Although going out the door,

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Speaker 15: Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green, who is retiring from Congress as

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Speaker 15: of today, was critical of this violation of international law.

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Speaker 15: Senator Mike Lee of Utah was critical. Of course, a

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Speaker 15: host of Democrats have been critical, starting with Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 15: the former Vice president. But I don't necessarily expect any

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Speaker 15: sort of muscularity from Congress with regard to this blatant

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Speaker 15: violation of international law. With regard to the lower courts,

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Speaker 15: they've been showing some originality and creativity. That's why I

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Speaker 15: don't rule out the possibility of a fair hearing as

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Speaker 15: federal court. It depends on the draw of the judge

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Speaker 15: who the judge will be. With regard to the US

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Speaker 15: Supreme Court, a so called coequal branch of the government,

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Speaker 15: they with their sixth person conservative majority, have given thumbs

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Speaker 15: up to fundamentally every hair brain scheme that the Republican

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Speaker 15: writers come up with. So we are not in a

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Speaker 15: good way right now.

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Speaker 1: Wow, twenty eight away from the top that with doctor

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Speaker 1: Gerald Horn. Doctor Horn a tweet question for you two,

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Speaker 1: and I says, what do you think if he takes Cuba,

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Speaker 1: the Cubans here would love him again? Do you think

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Speaker 1: if that's that's in the cars? Oh, this is all

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Speaker 1: by Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 15: Well, many commentators have pointed out that when you had

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Speaker 15: the invading force early Saturday morning, January third, that you

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Speaker 15: have these slow moving Chinook helicopters flying low through the

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Speaker 15: skies of Caracas that apparently were not shot at, and

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Speaker 15: that has raised a number of questions, but in any case,

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Speaker 15: don't expect that sort of reaction in Havana. As a

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Speaker 15: matter of fact, South Florida, he West, might wind up

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Speaker 15: being attacked because Cuba is only ninety miles away, for example,

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Speaker 15: and that gives it a strategic advantage in terms of

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Speaker 15: a possible potential US strike.

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Speaker 1: Now, does Cuba have the weaponry to do that, Doctor Horn.

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Speaker 15: Absolutely they do. I mean, the Cuban military is really

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Speaker 15: the power behind the throne in Havana, just like in Venezuela,

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Speaker 15: the Venezuelan military is the power behind the throne. They've

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Speaker 15: been politicized since the days of former leader Hugo Chavez

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Speaker 15: and recalled that when the US forces is struck on Saturday,

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Speaker 15: they also bomb the mausoleum honoring Hugo Chavez as well

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Speaker 15: as a final insult to the Venezuelan people. And the

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Speaker 15: Cuban military is locked and loaded. And I would really

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Speaker 15: caution mister Trump, who is obviously a feeling his oats

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Speaker 15: right now, although once again he hasn't contemplated what comes

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Speaker 15: the day after the Chavistas are still in power. The

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Speaker 15: new president Deli Rodriguez has issued stinging condemnations on the

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Speaker 15: one hand of the kidnapping of mister Maduro. On the

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Speaker 15: other hand, she's pledged cooperation. There is daylight between Secretary

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Speaker 15: of State Marco Rubio, who says that no, contrary to

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Speaker 15: mister Trump, they won't be running the government. They'll just

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Speaker 15: be coercing the government. Mister Trump continues to insist they'll

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Speaker 15: be running the government, But I don't see how they

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Speaker 15: can run the government when Chavistas is still in power,

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Speaker 15: when there are no US forces on the ground in

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Speaker 15: Caracas to ouse the Chavistas. So mister Trump is delusional.

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Speaker 1: Even when he mentions that they're going to take over

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Speaker 1: the oil industry in Venezuela. It seems like it, he says,

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Speaker 1: a courting him our oil. I guess executives are going

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Speaker 1: to be running the oil industry in Venezuela. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he has a plan. I guess maybe

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Speaker 1: a concept of a plan. How do you see all

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Speaker 1: of that?

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Speaker 15: Well, it's interesting. Jeffrey Sonnensfell, who is at the Yale

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Speaker 15: School of Management, the Business School, is should along memoranda

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Speaker 15: to us CEO's telling them to be cautious and commenting

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Speaker 15: on what's happening in Venezuela. Because there's a lot of

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Speaker 15: outrage on the streets of Latin America about what's happened,

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Speaker 15: is reflected in the condemnations coming from otherwise cautious leaders

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Speaker 15: like President Lula. This whole idea of kidnapping leaders could

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Speaker 15: boomerang tremendously. You could see a wave of kidnappings of

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Speaker 15: US CEOs, and that's what Jeffrey sonnens Fell was hinting at.

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Speaker 15: For example, and with regard to the United States seizing

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Speaker 15: the oil, well, mister Mdua has offered, quite frankly, that

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Speaker 15: he was willing to share the oil bounty with the

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Speaker 15: US oil companies. So obviously there's more at play than

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Speaker 15: just seizing the oil. Also at play is a demonstration

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Speaker 15: project to send a message to other nations in the

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Speaker 15: hemisphere that they should not align with Cuba nor Russia

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Speaker 15: lest they face the fate of mister Maduro.

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Speaker 1: All right, hold that though, right there, twenty three away

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Speaker 1: from the top of that way, take a show up

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Speaker 1: and we come back that I once you break that down,

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Speaker 1: I got a bunch of folks who want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you family. You want to find out what's really

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Speaker 1: going on in Venezuela, the shift in political geopolitical landscape.

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Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred five more five

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Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six, and you two can speak

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Speaker 1: to doctor Jerald Holland we take phone calls next and

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising family.

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Speaker 11: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: We're rolling with us on this Monday morning things just

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Speaker 1: starting a week with us at nineteen minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top there with our guest, doctor Gerald Horn. If

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Speaker 1: you'd like to speak to DoD Horn, reach out to

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Speaker 1: us at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 1: seventy six. Before we go back to DoD Horn, just

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Speaker 1: remind you come up lady. This week you and hear

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Speaker 1: from futuristic researcher brother Sadeka Baccari, also a physician scientist.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Fevil Bowles will be with us and also we're

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Speaker 1: going to take another look at Altadena, Pasadena here one

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Speaker 1: year from those devastating fires. We're going to talk to

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Speaker 1: some of the folks out there how the year has been.

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Speaker 1: So make sure you keep you radio locked in tight

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Speaker 1: on ten ten WLB if you are in Baltimore, if

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Speaker 1: you're in the DMV, we're on fourteen fifty WL Reggie's

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Speaker 1: reaching out to us. He's calling from Maryland. He's online

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Speaker 1: six Grand Rising, Reggie, You're on with doctor Gerald.

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Speaker 3: Horn, grand Rizing. Can you hear me? Brother?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yes.

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Speaker 18: I wanted to have a question and a comment. I'll

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Speaker 18: say my comment first. When Donald Trump had an interview

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Speaker 18: after the Venezuela invasion, he was counted mentioning oil twenty

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Speaker 18: five times in one news interview with reporters, and he

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Speaker 18: used drugs in the beginning. And now we see it

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Speaker 18: was always about the oil all the time. Now we

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Speaker 18: have to take him at his word at some point

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Speaker 18: what he say out of his mouth. So he just

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Speaker 18: said again about the leader of Columbia. He need to

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Speaker 18: watch his ass. This is his words. Now he's planning

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Speaker 18: to go take the cocaine. He's a war criminal. Now

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Speaker 18: what I say to I ask of you. My question

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Speaker 18: to you, Doctor Horn, is it's been on this radio

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Speaker 18: to debate back and forth everyone who has come on

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Speaker 18: this show. If I get the chance, I'll ask the question.

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Speaker 18: But it has been asked, should black people join the

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Speaker 18: US military? And those of us who stand against joining

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Speaker 18: it and know that it's not going to be any

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Speaker 18: kind of Spook who sat beside the door, as if

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Speaker 18: you're going to infiltrate this military, that's not what we're doing.

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Speaker 18: We're looking at it as we're getting a job, a

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Speaker 18: good job, we need a job, or like Geronimo Pratt,

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Speaker 18: get the training and then use it for whatever. But

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Speaker 18: Dick Gregory said, the blood is on your hands. This

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Speaker 18: is why we stand against going into the US military

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Speaker 18: because of these type of activities in this country as

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Speaker 18: a history of this. So that's my question to you,

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Speaker 18: should black people join the US military and be a

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Speaker 18: part of this crack?

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Speaker 1: All right? Thanks Reggie.

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Speaker 15: Well, obviously I'm sympathetic to what Bregie is saying. I mean,

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Speaker 15: first of all, it's a very dangerous job to be

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Speaker 15: shot at to being pounded. For example, look at all

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Speaker 15: of the body bags that are flown into Dover, Delaware

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Speaker 15: on a regular basis, most recently a week or so ago.

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Speaker 15: Recall what happened in Syria when you had these folks

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Speaker 15: from the National Guard who were shot allegedly by US

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Speaker 15: Allied forces. It's not only the US military, it's also Ice.

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Speaker 15: ICE is offering fifty thousand dollars bonuses. That is to say,

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Speaker 15: the immigration authorities were engaged in roundups and Chicago, Los

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Speaker 15: Angeles and other major cities. So I would be very

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Speaker 15: reluctant to give advice to join the US military or

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Speaker 15: to join the immigration authorities.

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Speaker 3: For that matter.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Hall, let me ask you this question. What we're

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Speaker 1: seeing now with the Venisraeli because at first he went

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Speaker 1: in on the pretense that they're with the drugs coming

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Speaker 1: from the country from Venezuela. Is the same thing what

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Speaker 1: happened with the records of mass destruction during the Bush

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Speaker 1: years in two thousand and three, saying that they had

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Speaker 1: all these weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and he

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Speaker 1: proved out, you know when we were calling power, Remember

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Speaker 1: we had all that, the whole that thing, and then

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Speaker 1: that's why they went in there in Iraq. Is this

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing a replay just using different circumstances in Venezuela.

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Speaker 15: What do you think history is repeating itself? Mister Trump

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Speaker 15: is echoing George W. Bush in talking loosely about mission

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Speaker 15: accomplished in terms of kidnapping mister Maduro and the spouse.

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Speaker 15: But there's little understanding or recognition of what comes the

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Speaker 15: day after. It's going to be even more complicated in

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Speaker 15: Venezuela because, as noted, the Madua comrades still hold the

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Speaker 15: reins of power, and they do not seem reluctant to

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Speaker 15: give up the reigns of power. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 15: what I predict is that there will be a rallying

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Speaker 15: around the regime in Caracas, not only by Russia and China,

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Speaker 15: but by Brazil, which is noted, has been hesitant up

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Speaker 15: until a day or two ago to express all with

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Speaker 15: dearity with Venezuela and of course Venezuelan and Brazils Sarah

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Speaker 15: lynthy border. So I think this is going to backfire

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Speaker 15: against Washington in many ways and once again flagged the

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Speaker 15: issue of US allies, including US corporate executives, being subjected

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Speaker 15: to kidnapping and retaliation.

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Speaker 1: Well, do you think we'll see a Trump tow as

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Speaker 1: a Trump hotel in downtown Caracas?

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Speaker 15: Well, it depends President Rodriguez, and Caracas has made it

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Speaker 15: clear that her regime is willing to cooperate in collaboration

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Speaker 15: with the US authorities, and so if it's mutually advantageous,

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Speaker 15: I could see that happening possibly, But given mister Trump's

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Speaker 15: bellicost and hostile rhetoric towards the regime who recalled that

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Speaker 15: in an interview with The Atlantic just the other day.

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Speaker 15: He says that as President Rorigez doesn't play ball, show

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Speaker 15: face a fate more dire than that of mister Maduro

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Speaker 15: and his spell. He's basically suggesting that she might be assassinated.

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Speaker 15: That's not the kind of rhetoric that guarantees collaboration and cooperation.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha twelve away from the top of it. Mike's reaching out.

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Speaker 1: Tressi's on Life five. He's calling from Washington, DC, Grand Rising, Mike,

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Speaker 1: your question or your comment for doctor.

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Speaker 4: Gerald Horn, Grand.

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Speaker 12: Mister Nelson and mister Kevin and your guest and up.

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Speaker 11: Trump.

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Speaker 12: Good job for Trump for the greatest cost of an

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Speaker 12: analysis and lawyers in the world from Grand Jarrett Johnson,

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Speaker 12: Charlie Alan Dorset Wooz legally DA FBI military joint operation.

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Speaker 12: He had a warn out from since twenty twenty, Kidnapping Americans,

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Speaker 12: chill American oil, drug fat trafficking, narcotics, RICO. Check the

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Speaker 12: warrant out that's on the line. You can see it

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Speaker 12: totally totally authorized to do this and it's a great

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Speaker 12: The people in Venezuela he was Venezuela all around the world.

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Speaker 12: Exiles at Miami are happy, excited. This happened in Afghanistan

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Speaker 12: and change of government. The United States will oversee this.

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Speaker 12: And then Afghanistan is a democracy. Our Korea, we did

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Speaker 12: it in Korea. South Korea is a democracy. We did

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Speaker 12: it in Vietnam self. Vietnam is a democracy. So you

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Speaker 12: know we'll be there shortly. Good job for him. And

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Speaker 12: also this is really serious because you know he's saved.

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Speaker 12: We're saying this year alone in the United States of America,

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Speaker 12: this is a drug problem, and the white people went

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Speaker 12: to him to stop there sitting on stuff like that.

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Speaker 12: But trying to Russia. We saved over three hundred thousand

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Speaker 12: people right now from drug overdose already and you're in death.

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Speaker 12: So this is a good thing. Everything does legally proper everything.

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Speaker 12: So I have no idea what your guest is talking about,

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Speaker 12: because you got to see what the legal the legal

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Speaker 12: analys said. This is told there for a bit. This

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Speaker 12: is bigger than ol Chapo, al Chapo and Noya use

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Speaker 12: the Noriega platform, and it's got more indictments than Noriega.

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Speaker 12: It's gonna stick light clue on the wall oh looks

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Speaker 12: really good, really.

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Speaker 6: Goods give much.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thank you Mike for your comments. Let's give doctor

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Speaker 1: Horne a chance to spawning. He's chomping at a bit

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Speaker 1: to respond to what you just said. Go ahead, doctor Horne, will.

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Speaker 15: Your column may be the only person that planet Earth

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Speaker 15: who feels that there is democracy in Afghanistan after decades

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Speaker 15: of US interference. In fact, Afghanistan is a model of

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Speaker 15: gen a party, which is something relatively new in recent

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Speaker 15: times in terms of the way that women and girls

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Speaker 15: are treated, not allowed to be educated. For example, with

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Speaker 15: regard to Vietnam, the United States did not intend whether

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Speaker 15: to be Communist Party rule in Vietnam, which has been

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Speaker 15: the case ever since the United States evacuated ignominiously in

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Speaker 15: April nineteen seventy five in the face of defeat. With

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Speaker 15: regard to the legality under US law, well, I assume

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Speaker 15: that under Venezuelan law they could have a warrant for

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Speaker 15: the arrest of President Trump for violating their airspace and

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Speaker 15: killing dozens of individuals there, and consent a team into

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Speaker 15: Washington to enforce that arrest warrant. I mean, what's sauce

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Speaker 15: for the goose? Is sauce for the Ganders with regard

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Speaker 15: to drugs. As has already been noted, mister Trump has

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Speaker 15: dropped the whole question of Maduro being a narco traffic

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Speaker 15: and instead has stressed the question themorial. And of course

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Speaker 15: that's consistent with the US authorities who have argued over

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Speaker 15: the years that Venezuela is not a major supplier of

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Speaker 15: sentinel or the elements that are going to fentinyl. That's China.

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Speaker 15: But don't expect the United States to be sending a

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Speaker 15: team to Beijing to arrest President Jiju and Pin.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for responding to mine, because that you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously those are the Republican talking points that he's a issuing.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've heard them before. And keep listening to

2355
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Speaker 1: one side of the conversation, you don't hear the whole conversation.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully he was still listening. But here's a question

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Speaker 1: for it for taking another coffee again tweets about this,

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Speaker 1: doctor Horne. Do you think this is all a big

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Speaker 1: distraction that take us away from from one the Epstein

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Speaker 1: files and two the economy and what's going with the

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Speaker 1: healthcare as well?

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 15: A number of intelligent comment commentators have pointed out which

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Speaker 15: you've just suggested that there are millions of pages about

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Speaker 15: the Epstein pedophile case. They're in store to be released

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Speaker 15: in coming days and weeks. There have already been thousands

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Speaker 15: of pages already released, and they have painted a very

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Speaker 15: disturbing picture of the relationship between this pedophile and mister Trump.

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Speaker 15: Certainly he has an interest in distracting from this scandal.

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Speaker 15: He has denounced the former allied, Marjorie Taylor Green, because

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Speaker 15: she wanted these files to be released. Certainly, the affordability

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Speaker 15: question does not play to the strengths of mister Trump's platform.

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Speaker 15: Whoever goes to a grocery store recognizes that prices are going.

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Speaker 11: Through the roof.

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Speaker 15: That is one of the reasons why he did not

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Speaker 15: necessarily denounce mister Mundanni when he showed up in the

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Speaker 15: Oval office a few weeks ago. And I'm happy to

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Speaker 15: say that mister Mundanni, the Mayor of New York, has

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Speaker 15: criticized the kidnapp. Oh, mister Maduro in a spouse and

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Speaker 15: I'm waiting to hear something similar coming from our leaders

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Speaker 15: in the Congressional Black Caucus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd be quiet for questionself. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: There's six minutes away from the top of the I'm

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Speaker 1: a from Anaheim sent a question for you, but let's

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Speaker 1: go to Greg and Upper Marlboro, Maryland. He has a

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Speaker 1: question as well. He's on line three Grand Rising.

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Speaker 3: Greg.

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Speaker 1: Your question for doctor Gerald Horn.

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Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, doctor Horn and brother Carl. I guess

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Speaker 6: my questions last comment. I used to attend lectures back

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Speaker 6: in the day of Brother Steve Coakley and he discussed trilateralism.

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Speaker 6: Were talking about twenty years ago, twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 6: And basically what Trump is doing is implementing the tenets

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Speaker 6: from the position papers of the Trilateral Commission, and that

2395
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Speaker 6: was to say that they have always intended to consolidate.

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Speaker 14: Paul him as Fear into one segment.

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Speaker 6: Of the Trilateral Commission. So when you hear Trump talking

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Speaker 6: about Canada, Mexico and all and every every country in

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Speaker 6: this hemisphere, basically that was part of the plan of

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Speaker 6: the Trilateral Commission, according to you know, you know, the

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Speaker 6: elections of Brother Steve and others who taught that eons

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Speaker 6: eons to go. So I'm not surprised. What I am

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Speaker 6: surprised that is how naive that a lot of brothers

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02:17:34,879 --> 02:17:37,279
Speaker 6: who kind of thought that this guy was an outsider

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02:17:38,240 --> 02:17:40,960
Speaker 6: who was gonna drain the swamp and all this crazy

2406
02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:43,720
Speaker 6: stuff like that. And notice how he had a complete

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Speaker 6: about face. But none of these people want to acknowledge

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Speaker 6: that they were wrong about this guy, you know, the

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Speaker 6: whole time. And I just wanted to ask doctor o'horn

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Speaker 6: if he's familiar with the whole agenda of the Trilateral

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Speaker 6: Commission as far as consolidating.

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Speaker 14: This whole hemisphere.

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Speaker 6: One currency for this whole reason, basically setting up the

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Speaker 6: new world order.

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Speaker 1: All right, Greg, thank you.

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Speaker 15: Trilateral Commission of decades ago. But recall the times of change,

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02:18:19,400 --> 02:18:24,400
Speaker 15: because in the early iteration of the Trilateral Commission, the

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Speaker 15: idea was that Canada, for example, would be in lockstep

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Speaker 15: with the United States of America. The NaSTA North American

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Speaker 15: Free Trade Agreement now the us MCA, the US Mexico

2421
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Speaker 15: Canada Agreement was part and parcel of that kind of scheming.

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Speaker 15: But mister Trump has turned the tables now. He says

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Speaker 15: he wants Canada to be the fifty first state. For example,

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Speaker 15: he's talked about invading Mexico. Under the Trilateral Commission, Mexico

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Speaker 15: would be considered to be an ally of the United

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Speaker 15: States of America. We should not downplay the kinds of

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Speaker 15: change that is taking place right now. With regard to

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Speaker 15: the trilateral partners, they were the Western Europeans and Japan,

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Speaker 15: But now mister Trump has been threatening Western European nations.

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Speaker 15: For example, he says in this national security strategy that

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Speaker 15: their face was so called civilizational erasure. That's his phrase,

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Speaker 15: not mine. Because of immigration. He suggested the Nazi friendly

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Speaker 15: parties be backed, which is outraged the ruling party in Berlin,

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Speaker 15: not to mention the ruling party in France. So yes,

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Speaker 15: I'm familiar with for a lateral commission, but I'm also

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Speaker 15: more familiar with how things have changed since it was

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Speaker 15: originally enunciated.

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Speaker 14: The only thing I'll add or to submit.

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Speaker 6: To you, though, if the in game is consolidation, and

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Speaker 6: everything that Trump is doing is talking about consolidation by force. Again,

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Speaker 6: to me, he's not an outside He's just carrying out

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02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:07,280
Speaker 6: an agenda that was you know, already again intended to like.

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Speaker 14: Twenty five thirty years ago.

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Speaker 6: And for them to call the oil in Venezuela as

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Speaker 6: their oil, that's America's oil again.

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Speaker 1: And Greg, we're gonna let you go because we got

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Speaker 1: to take a short break. We gotta take another look

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Speaker 1: at the trafficking reather worm one more time. But I

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Speaker 1: thank you for your question and get the gist of it,

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Speaker 1: and I like doctor Horn respond when we get back,

2451
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Speaker 1: it's two minutes away from the top. They have family.

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Speaker 1: I guess it is doctor Jerel Horn from the University

2453
02:20:28,680 --> 02:20:30,680
Speaker 1: of Houston is also an attorney. By the way, you

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Speaker 1: got a question about what's going on in Venezuela and more,

2455
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:35,440
Speaker 1: reach out to us at eight hundred four to five zero.

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Speaker 1: This is seventy eight seventy six. I will take your

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Speaker 1: phone calls next and Grand Rising family. Thanks for rolling

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Speaker 1: with us on this Monday morning fast again. Your week

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Speaker 1: started with us and our guest, the doctor Jereld Horner

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02:20:44,720 --> 02:20:47,880
Speaker 1: talking about international politics with doctor HORNA. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank greg for mentioning Steve Coca. Steve Coca did do

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Speaker 1: a lot exposed about the time Trilatle commissioning. In fact,

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Speaker 1: as far as naming the persons involved in the Triloutle conditions,

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Speaker 1: tryline Trianlattle commission. Some of those names would surprise you

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Speaker 1: as well. But doctor Horn, I guess what gregor Is

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Speaker 1: question is basically, are we seeing the Monroe doctrine being

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Speaker 1: played out as a sort of Trump doctrine in this

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Speaker 1: part of the hemisphere.

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Speaker 15: Well, mister Trumpet has said as much, has noted he's

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Speaker 15: rebranded it as the don World doctrine, so to speak,

2471
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Speaker 15: recalled that two centuries ago, then US President James Monroe

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Speaker 15: was suggesting that European power should stay out of this hemisphere.

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Speaker 15: But what's oftentimes forgotten is that President Monroe emphasized that

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Speaker 15: the United States would not get involved in European affairs,

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Speaker 15: which is obviously not taking place given the existence of NATO,

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Speaker 15: the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Given the fact that last year,

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Speaker 15: at the beginning of the year, Vice President JD. Vance

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02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:52,840
Speaker 15: gave political advice backed up by action, as to who

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Speaker 15: European government should elect as their leaders, followed by the

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Speaker 15: National Security Strategy in December twenty twenty five, which gave

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Speaker 15: similar sorts of advice. So this is all nonsense. This

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Speaker 15: idea number one, that the United States can dictate who

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02:22:12,959 --> 02:22:17,039
Speaker 15: countries in this hemisphere should consort with sovereign countries. By

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02:22:17,080 --> 02:22:20,320
Speaker 15: the way, it would be as if China told the

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Speaker 15: United States not to have relationships with Great Britain, for example.

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Speaker 15: This is not only inconceivable, but if you were somehow formulated,

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Speaker 15: it would be rejected unilaterally in both Washington and London.

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Speaker 1: Got you three after the tough ELEMENTI market from Anna,

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Speaker 1: I haven't sent a question for you. March question Brother

2490
02:22:41,080 --> 02:22:44,240
Speaker 1: and Koshy's College from Chicago's online for Grand Rising Brother

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02:22:44,320 --> 02:22:48,480
Speaker 1: and Cosy your question for doctor Horn Brian Randing.

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Speaker 3: And John both my brothers.

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Speaker 7: I was.

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Speaker 3: Galming into foreign affairs earlier this year, and the counselor

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Speaker 3: on four really presented two possible processes that could occur

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Speaker 3: as far as international politics are concerned. And the first

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Speaker 3: one was that they presented which I agree with doctor Warren.

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Speaker 3: It sounds kind of issy, is that there are spells

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Speaker 3: of influence in which China would control Asia, Russia would

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Speaker 3: control Europe, and the United States would control the America

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02:23:33,120 --> 02:23:37,400
Speaker 3: over here. And in order for that to work for America,

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02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:41,640
Speaker 3: it would be dangerous for US because it means we

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02:23:41,680 --> 02:23:44,280
Speaker 3: would have to be depopulated and they would have to

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02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:50,600
Speaker 3: import more. White population is shrinking here, so they would

2505
02:23:50,640 --> 02:23:54,520
Speaker 3: have to import more Europeans and deport more of us,

2506
02:23:54,600 --> 02:23:59,000
Speaker 3: which this birthright citizenship move that they're making now with

2507
02:23:59,080 --> 02:24:03,680
Speaker 3: the Supreme court seems aim to do is to attempt

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02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:08,240
Speaker 3: to deport us. But I don't think that China and

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02:24:08,320 --> 02:24:12,960
Speaker 3: Wrassia would agree with the spirits of influence because I mean,

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02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:16,960
Speaker 3: who would trust the United States. And you know, in

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02:24:17,000 --> 02:24:21,000
Speaker 3: our analysis of Donald Trump and what he's doing, I

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02:24:21,000 --> 02:24:28,000
Speaker 3: think we personalized him too much. His first tour as president, yeah,

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02:24:28,080 --> 02:24:30,240
Speaker 3: well we could say it was most of him. But

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02:24:30,400 --> 02:24:34,000
Speaker 3: now he is being backed by the Federal of Society,

2515
02:24:34,120 --> 02:24:38,400
Speaker 3: the Heriticy Foundation, all of these think tanks to tech boroughs.

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02:24:38,800 --> 02:24:42,320
Speaker 3: So this is why he's picking these people like Pete

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02:24:42,360 --> 02:24:48,440
Speaker 3: Head said, Hawk pig Hall said, and right think RFK

2518
02:24:49,360 --> 02:24:54,240
Speaker 3: because in the contingency that power, they lose power. These

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Speaker 3: people will be prosecutable. So no one with good sense

2520
02:24:57,520 --> 02:25:00,800
Speaker 3: of taking these positions. But I would just deal. Would

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02:25:00,879 --> 02:25:06,600
Speaker 3: noctor one has to say about Russia and China as

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Speaker 3: far as trust in the United States and the sphere

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Speaker 3: of influenced deal.

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Speaker 15: Well, First of all, I don't think that this idea of

2525
02:25:15,480 --> 02:25:18,640
Speaker 15: sperits of influencers want to fly. I mean, for example,

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Speaker 15: number one, if you're saying that China should control Asia,

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02:25:24,040 --> 02:25:27,600
Speaker 15: well they get the best deal. It has the most

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02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:31,240
Speaker 15: significant population and in any case, India will not go

2529
02:25:31,320 --> 02:25:35,360
Speaker 15: along with China controlling Asia, given the fact that India's

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02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:40,560
Speaker 15: population is larger than that of China as we speak.

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Speaker 15: Second of all, when we speak of Trump, at least

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Speaker 15: when I speak of Trump, I'm using him as a

2533
02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:52,320
Speaker 15: shorthand we're speaking of the multiple forces that are backing him,

2534
02:25:52,520 --> 02:25:55,800
Speaker 15: the so called Maga Coalition. But keep in mind that

2535
02:25:55,879 --> 02:26:01,360
Speaker 15: the MAGA Coalition is split on this question of Venezuela.

2536
02:26:01,680 --> 02:26:07,160
Speaker 15: It's split on this question of bombing of other nations.

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02:26:07,440 --> 02:26:12,520
Speaker 15: Recalled that just before January third, that Steve Bannon, the

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Speaker 15: erstwhile counselor to mister Trump, criticized mister Trump for suggesting

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Speaker 15: that the United States might intervene in Iran, for example,

2540
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Speaker 15: in light of the demonstrations of the Iranian people over

2541
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Speaker 15: high prices and affordability, for example. So there are splits

2542
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:35,760
Speaker 15: within the Maga Coalition, which is good news because we

2543
02:26:35,879 --> 02:26:38,760
Speaker 15: can play upon these splits. They're splits in the Maga

2544
02:26:38,760 --> 02:26:43,600
Speaker 15: Coalition with regard to the Prosionist forces to make Israel

2545
02:26:43,640 --> 02:26:46,480
Speaker 15: great again forces and to make America great again forces.

2546
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:50,920
Speaker 15: Splits between the Prosionist forces and those like Nick Quaints

2547
02:26:51,120 --> 02:26:54,879
Speaker 15: of the Hitler's cool faction of the Republican Party, who

2548
02:26:55,080 --> 02:26:58,560
Speaker 15: was given a softball interview by Pucker Carlson. So they're

2549
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Speaker 15: all sorts of split within the MAGA coalition, which does

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Speaker 15: not bode well for the long term viability gosh.

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Speaker 1: Ada after the top, as I mentioned, Mark from Anaheim

2552
02:27:08,520 --> 02:27:11,000
Speaker 1: has said a tweet four. He says, Mark says hello.

2553
02:27:11,080 --> 02:27:13,879
Speaker 1: He says, the Dolls Act, the Monroe Doctrine, and the

2554
02:27:13,920 --> 02:27:17,400
Speaker 1: Christian Doctrine of Discovery are alive and well. Because I

2555
02:27:17,400 --> 02:27:20,039
Speaker 1: want to say, for many decades, oil was seen as

2556
02:27:20,080 --> 02:27:23,760
Speaker 1: the prize. However, the paradigm has shifted somewhat since water

2557
02:27:23,959 --> 02:27:27,360
Speaker 1: and lithium are replacing oil as the prize. He goes

2558
02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:29,320
Speaker 1: on to say, the current plan is for the US

2559
02:27:29,360 --> 02:27:32,680
Speaker 1: to control everything from the northernmost tip of North America

2560
02:27:32,760 --> 02:27:36,680
Speaker 1: to the southernmost tip of South America. Russia controls all

2561
02:27:36,720 --> 02:27:39,760
Speaker 1: of Europe, and China controls all of Asia. The continent

2562
02:27:39,800 --> 02:27:42,720
Speaker 1: of Africa will be divided between the Big three. And

2563
02:27:42,920 --> 02:27:46,800
Speaker 1: as already in such nations as Kenya and Ghana, there

2564
02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:50,480
Speaker 1: are creating what its term smart cities which do not

2565
02:27:50,520 --> 02:27:52,800
Speaker 1: answer to the nation's government. And he says, what do you.

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02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:56,760
Speaker 15: Say, well, first of all, but we go to guard

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02:27:56,800 --> 02:28:00,240
Speaker 15: the controlling petroleum, which is obviously an ambition that of

2568
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:03,760
Speaker 15: mister Trump. He should pay attention to what's happening with

2569
02:28:03,920 --> 02:28:06,760
Speaker 15: regard to green energy. He should look at the article

2570
02:28:06,840 --> 02:28:08,760
Speaker 15: that appears of the New York Times just a day

2571
02:28:08,840 --> 02:28:12,400
Speaker 15: or two ago about the rise of cheap Chinese made

2572
02:28:12,440 --> 02:28:17,920
Speaker 15: solar panels which have helped to relieve the electricity crunch

2573
02:28:17,959 --> 02:28:21,520
Speaker 15: and crisis in South Africa, amongst other nations. I have

2574
02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:24,080
Speaker 15: to say once again with regard to this notion of

2575
02:28:24,160 --> 02:28:29,480
Speaker 15: series of influence. It may look okay or even rational

2576
02:28:29,560 --> 02:28:34,440
Speaker 15: on paper, but India gets a vote, and India and

2577
02:28:34,520 --> 02:28:38,560
Speaker 15: China fought a bitter war in nineteen sixty two. Mister Trump,

2578
02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:43,360
Speaker 15: at least in Trump one, had this idea of helping

2579
02:28:43,440 --> 02:28:46,240
Speaker 15: to recruit India in an anti China coalition. So the

2580
02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:51,000
Speaker 15: idea that China would control Asia run smack dab into

2581
02:28:51,080 --> 02:28:54,560
Speaker 15: the question of what India will have to say about this.

2582
02:28:55,640 --> 02:28:59,880
Speaker 15: The Europeans are not necessarily going to accept Russia could

2583
02:28:59,879 --> 02:29:04,360
Speaker 15: throw in Europe. Look at they're taxing their citizens to

2584
02:29:04,520 --> 02:29:09,200
Speaker 15: the bone to raise money to fund the Ukraine war effort.

2585
02:29:09,200 --> 02:29:11,320
Speaker 15: After mister Trump is trying to pull the plug on

2586
02:29:11,400 --> 02:29:15,039
Speaker 15: the Ukraine war effort, so they're not necessarily necessarily going

2587
02:29:15,080 --> 02:29:19,280
Speaker 15: to accept Russian hegemony in Europe. And we've already been

2588
02:29:19,320 --> 02:29:23,160
Speaker 15: talking about how the Brazilians and the Canadians and the

2589
02:29:23,240 --> 02:29:26,080
Speaker 15: Venezuelans are not necessarily going to accept the US hegemony

2590
02:29:26,280 --> 02:29:30,320
Speaker 15: and the Americas. So I think that those who have

2591
02:29:30,400 --> 02:29:33,000
Speaker 15: this idea about spirits of influence need to give it

2592
02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:33,959
Speaker 15: a reality test.

2593
02:29:35,080 --> 02:29:35,760
Speaker 7: Gotcha? Ten?

2594
02:29:35,800 --> 02:29:37,560
Speaker 1: After that time they ask some more folks want to

2595
02:29:37,560 --> 02:29:40,160
Speaker 1: talk to you, Doctor Horn. Mark's calling from Houston is online.

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02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:43,360
Speaker 1: Six grand rise and mark your question for doctor Gerald Klark.

2597
02:29:44,959 --> 02:29:48,560
Speaker 19: Well, grand rise, that morning. Y'all doing all right this morning?

2598
02:29:49,760 --> 02:29:52,080
Speaker 15: Yes, sir, yes, sir.

2599
02:29:52,320 --> 02:29:54,360
Speaker 19: I just want to ask one of questions. Why I

2600
02:29:54,440 --> 02:29:57,840
Speaker 19: finish up and answer it began, But I just wanted

2601
02:29:57,840 --> 02:30:00,640
Speaker 19: to remember back in two thousand, it's you know, twenty

2602
02:30:00,680 --> 02:30:04,560
Speaker 19: six years ago. Now you know Bluish versus Goal. I

2603
02:30:04,600 --> 02:30:07,320
Speaker 19: want you to remember that. Then you remember the Supreme Court.

2604
02:30:07,360 --> 02:30:08,680
Speaker 19: I didn't want to show you how they put him

2605
02:30:08,680 --> 02:30:10,680
Speaker 19: in the office. Then you want to hear this word

2606
02:30:10,680 --> 02:30:13,440
Speaker 19: when Trump rans the office, it says take back, So

2607
02:30:13,520 --> 02:30:13,879
Speaker 19: you're going.

2608
02:30:13,800 --> 02:30:15,000
Speaker 6: To take back this country.

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02:30:15,160 --> 02:30:17,119
Speaker 19: We get what I'm saying. Now we talk about birth

2610
02:30:17,160 --> 02:30:21,680
Speaker 19: white citizens and all of a sudden, remember this, Uh

2611
02:30:22,240 --> 02:30:24,720
Speaker 19: we talked about Afghanistan with colon power when they said

2612
02:30:24,760 --> 02:30:29,120
Speaker 19: that Dodim Musain who had weapon of mass destruction or

2613
02:30:29,160 --> 02:30:31,360
Speaker 19: we found out that was true, I mean not true.

2614
02:30:32,080 --> 02:30:33,760
Speaker 5: Say, man, do you think.

2615
02:30:33,560 --> 02:30:38,680
Speaker 19: That uh Trump and whatever is going on in this country,

2616
02:30:39,040 --> 02:30:40,879
Speaker 19: do you think that this man is going to actually

2617
02:30:41,440 --> 02:30:43,520
Speaker 19: come out of the White House now? I mean, because

2618
02:30:43,959 --> 02:30:45,920
Speaker 19: it just seems like a pattern that it's going on

2619
02:30:46,040 --> 02:30:49,000
Speaker 19: right now. These people are trying to do something and

2620
02:30:49,120 --> 02:30:51,119
Speaker 19: we just got to look at the signs right now.

2621
02:30:51,400 --> 02:30:54,160
Speaker 19: You know it's manding when they kidnapped these people and

2622
02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:57,879
Speaker 19: you know, took took the leader, you know.

2623
02:30:57,879 --> 02:30:58,640
Speaker 5: From the country.

2624
02:30:58,959 --> 02:31:00,800
Speaker 19: So do you think that this man is going to

2625
02:31:00,840 --> 02:31:04,640
Speaker 19: really if he's still alive three years from that, because

2626
02:31:04,640 --> 02:31:06,840
Speaker 19: I just want everybody know the man guess only then

2627
02:31:06,959 --> 02:31:09,360
Speaker 19: out its own a year now and it seems like

2628
02:31:09,400 --> 02:31:11,200
Speaker 19: he's been there for five to six years.

2629
02:31:11,560 --> 02:31:12,600
Speaker 9: This is not looking good.

2630
02:31:12,640 --> 02:31:13,720
Speaker 4: Do you think he's coming out?

2631
02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:15,080
Speaker 11: That's not working at.

2632
02:31:16,760 --> 02:31:16,840
Speaker 3: All?

2633
02:31:16,920 --> 02:31:18,680
Speaker 15: Right, thank you said, do you think he's coming out?

2634
02:31:19,000 --> 02:31:23,800
Speaker 15: Do I think he's going to leave office prematurely? Yeah, yeah,

2635
02:31:24,520 --> 02:31:28,160
Speaker 15: I don't. It's difficult for me to say yes because

2636
02:31:28,200 --> 02:31:32,800
Speaker 15: that would require impeachment. And if he was not impeached

2637
02:31:32,879 --> 02:31:38,880
Speaker 15: in twenty twenty one after unleashing a mob on Congress

2638
02:31:38,879 --> 02:31:43,000
Speaker 15: in order to prevent the peaceful transfer of power, and

2639
02:31:43,040 --> 02:31:46,320
Speaker 15: he was not impeached then, and there's still a supine

2640
02:31:46,440 --> 02:31:50,440
Speaker 15: Republican control of Congress, it's difficult for me to imagine

2641
02:31:50,560 --> 02:31:54,040
Speaker 15: how that Republican Congress could impeach him now. Of course,

2642
02:31:54,080 --> 02:31:56,200
Speaker 15: there'll probably be a turnover in the House. There will

2643
02:31:56,200 --> 02:32:00,240
Speaker 15: be a speaker, King Jeffreys, a Democrat from Brooklyn, eating

2644
02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:06,760
Speaker 15: the House after November. But Pole suggests that the Republicans

2645
02:32:06,800 --> 02:32:10,440
Speaker 15: will still control the Senate and impeachment has to be

2646
02:32:10,520 --> 02:32:14,199
Speaker 15: voted on in terms of removal of office by the Senate,

2647
02:32:14,240 --> 02:32:18,680
Speaker 15: and a'll see the Republicans basically removing another Republican from

2648
02:32:18,879 --> 02:32:24,360
Speaker 15: the White House. So, mister Trump, I think the only

2649
02:32:24,400 --> 02:32:28,879
Speaker 15: way he'll leave office before twenty twenty nine is horizontally,

2650
02:32:29,040 --> 02:32:32,879
Speaker 15: not vertically. All right, I got a tweet question for you,

2651
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:34,679
Speaker 15: carried out in a castle.

2652
02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:38,600
Speaker 1: Well thirteen after the top. They are doctor horn At

2653
02:32:38,600 --> 02:32:42,280
Speaker 1: tweet from a brother Leroy and Louisiana he says, ask

2654
02:32:42,400 --> 02:32:45,320
Speaker 1: doctor Horn and the greatest scheme of things. Can we

2655
02:32:45,400 --> 02:32:49,080
Speaker 1: see the fingerprints of Project twenty twenty five? Because I say,

2656
02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:52,040
Speaker 1: people like Kevin Roberts, who's from my home area, head

2657
02:32:52,040 --> 02:32:55,800
Speaker 1: of the Heritage Foundation, Brandon Carr, Russell Vault, and that's

2658
02:32:55,800 --> 02:32:57,920
Speaker 1: a guy you need to watch, and all the people

2659
02:32:57,959 --> 02:33:00,360
Speaker 1: that put together the Project twenty twenty five. Can we

2660
02:33:00,400 --> 02:33:03,039
Speaker 1: see that what is going on is the blueprint from

2661
02:33:03,080 --> 02:33:06,400
Speaker 1: Project twenty twenty five people, Because people got to remember

2662
02:33:06,400 --> 02:33:09,560
Speaker 1: that Trump is not the smartest person in this administration.

2663
02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:13,680
Speaker 1: He's quote now, he's words. He is mainly a useful

2664
02:33:13,920 --> 02:33:17,520
Speaker 1: racist idiot. And basically the tweet from brother Leroy is

2665
02:33:17,520 --> 02:33:19,440
Speaker 1: saying that these folks that he mentioned are really running

2666
02:33:19,480 --> 02:33:23,600
Speaker 1: the country and not Donald Trump. What say you, doctor Horn, Well.

2667
02:33:23,480 --> 02:33:25,800
Speaker 15: I think that there are a class of individuals who

2668
02:33:25,959 --> 02:33:31,119
Speaker 15: running the country and mister Trump emble of the chairperson

2669
02:33:31,280 --> 02:33:35,480
Speaker 15: of the Executive Committee of the US ruling the leaf

2670
02:33:35,760 --> 02:33:38,440
Speaker 15: that rules the country. Now with regard to Project twenty

2671
02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:41,240
Speaker 15: twenty five, it's very important to keep up on the

2672
02:33:41,280 --> 02:33:44,680
Speaker 15: news because in the last few weeks there's been a

2673
02:33:44,760 --> 02:33:50,720
Speaker 15: split in the Heritage Foundation, led by your homeboy Kevin Roberts,

2674
02:33:51,080 --> 02:33:55,520
Speaker 15: and in fact, many have defected to a competing foundations

2675
02:33:55,600 --> 02:33:59,360
Speaker 15: led by former Vice President Mike Pence, who of course

2676
02:33:59,600 --> 02:34:03,560
Speaker 15: is in bad relations with mister Trump and the Trump Forces,

2677
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:09,600
Speaker 15: the so called Advancing American Freedom Coalition. A major reason

2678
02:34:09,760 --> 02:34:12,480
Speaker 15: for the split is what I just mentioned a moment

2679
02:34:12,600 --> 02:34:16,720
Speaker 15: or two ago, the split between the pro Israeli forces

2680
02:34:17,120 --> 02:34:21,600
Speaker 15: and the forces that are increasingly critical of Israel. Speaking

2681
02:34:21,720 --> 02:34:26,360
Speaker 15: of Tucker Carlson, Canvas Owens, the black woman flamethrower who

2682
02:34:26,400 --> 02:34:31,840
Speaker 15: married to fabulous wealth, for example, and the Project twenty

2683
02:34:31,879 --> 02:34:37,360
Speaker 15: twenty five and Heritage Foundation. People were seen as too

2684
02:34:37,440 --> 02:34:41,440
Speaker 15: sympathetic to Tucker Carlson and all the rest, which led

2685
02:34:41,480 --> 02:34:46,040
Speaker 15: to these mass affections to Mike Pimps's side. So those

2686
02:34:46,080 --> 02:34:48,920
Speaker 15: are tensions and contradictions we need to be aware of

2687
02:34:49,040 --> 02:34:52,080
Speaker 15: so that we can capitalize on them.

2688
02:34:52,560 --> 02:34:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the same split the starter with Charlie Kirk,

2689
02:34:55,360 --> 02:35:00,320
Speaker 1: though doctor Harn some people claimed that he was speaking

2690
02:35:00,320 --> 02:35:02,680
Speaker 1: about against Israel when he when he was taken out.

2691
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's also a speculation about the shooting, whether

2692
02:35:06,760 --> 02:35:08,800
Speaker 1: it was just you know, the person that they've arrested,

2693
02:35:08,879 --> 02:35:12,160
Speaker 1: or was this a sniper attack and where did to

2694
02:35:12,240 --> 02:35:14,200
Speaker 1: come from? The speaking and it all start when he

2695
02:35:14,240 --> 02:35:16,800
Speaker 1: started speaking about Israel, and as you mentioned Candide and

2696
02:35:16,840 --> 02:35:21,959
Speaker 1: Owens and also the caution now and the other fellow

2697
02:35:22,200 --> 02:35:26,280
Speaker 1: uh speaking about Israel? Is this where this is coming from?

2698
02:35:26,720 --> 02:35:27,199
Speaker 1: Do you think?

2699
02:35:28,879 --> 02:35:34,560
Speaker 15: Well, Charlie Kirk murderer is a key question because Candace

2700
02:35:34,640 --> 02:35:38,320
Speaker 15: Homans has really been capitalizing on that she was a

2701
02:35:38,520 --> 02:35:43,000
Speaker 15: former comrade of Charlie Kirk, and she has been floating

2702
02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:48,320
Speaker 15: all these theories about how possibly Israeli forces were involved

2703
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:53,680
Speaker 15: in his killing. It is evident that before he was killed,

2704
02:35:53,760 --> 02:35:57,800
Speaker 15: Charlie Kirk was in the process of breaking with pro

2705
02:35:57,959 --> 02:36:01,320
Speaker 15: Ziona's forces. Whether or not that means that the latter

2706
02:36:02,040 --> 02:36:04,560
Speaker 15: were involved in this assassination is a force of a

2707
02:36:04,560 --> 02:36:10,959
Speaker 15: different color. But this fragmentation of the Maga coalition is

2708
02:36:11,000 --> 02:36:14,800
Speaker 15: good news because it's going to be difficult for them

2709
02:36:14,920 --> 02:36:17,800
Speaker 15: to fight us when they're too busy fighting themselves.

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02:36:19,959 --> 02:36:21,840
Speaker 1: Got you seventeen out of the top of that'sco New

2711
02:36:21,920 --> 02:36:25,080
Speaker 1: York City, Jase reaching outdresses online three grand rise in Jay.

2712
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm with doctor Gerald Horn.

2713
02:36:28,360 --> 02:36:33,160
Speaker 7: Yes, good morning. It seems to me that at some

2714
02:36:33,400 --> 02:36:38,760
Speaker 7: point in time, the Congress and the Senate is gonna

2715
02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:43,640
Speaker 7: have to stand up to deal with this animal because

2716
02:36:44,760 --> 02:36:48,040
Speaker 7: he's just totally out of control. I mean, he does

2717
02:36:48,680 --> 02:36:54,120
Speaker 7: whatever he wishes to do and there is no consequences

2718
02:36:54,200 --> 02:36:58,760
Speaker 7: in repercussion. Now my main kiss.

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02:37:00,040 --> 02:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Step aside for a few moments. Hold left, all right there,

2720
02:37:02,120 --> 02:37:04,200
Speaker 1: I apologize, were gonna step away for a few months

2721
02:37:04,240 --> 02:37:06,000
Speaker 1: and wait come back. I let you finish your formulate

2722
02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:08,000
Speaker 1: your question for doctor gerald Horn. Family, you can do

2723
02:37:08,040 --> 02:37:09,680
Speaker 1: the same thing. Let's reach out to us at eight

2724
02:37:09,760 --> 02:37:12,640
Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight to seventy section.

2725
02:37:12,720 --> 02:37:15,200
Speaker 1: We'll take your phone calls next. Thank grand Rising family.

2726
02:37:15,240 --> 02:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for staying with us on this Monday morning. Thanks

2727
02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:18,840
Speaker 1: for starting your week with us at twenty one minutes

2728
02:37:18,879 --> 02:37:21,000
Speaker 1: half the top Dayuld, I guess the doctor Gerald Horn

2729
02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:23,240
Speaker 1: from the University of Houston. Before we left, Jay was

2730
02:37:23,480 --> 02:37:25,560
Speaker 1: proposing a question for doctor Horn. So Jay, I'll let

2731
02:37:25,600 --> 02:37:27,360
Speaker 1: you finish posing your question for doctor Horn.

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02:37:28,560 --> 02:37:35,039
Speaker 7: Yes, two things, but the main concern is what's gonna

2733
02:37:35,120 --> 02:37:42,480
Speaker 7: happen with Bukino Fasso. Will Bukino Fosso be able to

2734
02:37:42,680 --> 02:37:49,800
Speaker 7: defend themselves against an attacked by America because it seems like,

2735
02:37:50,200 --> 02:37:55,520
Speaker 7: you know, France is extremely extremely upset with Bikino Fosso

2736
02:37:55,640 --> 02:37:59,760
Speaker 7: because they're they're basically cut them off economically with that

2737
02:38:00,800 --> 02:38:06,160
Speaker 7: is a beautiful thing. And also in regards to I

2738
02:38:06,200 --> 02:38:12,960
Speaker 7: think someone mentioned it earlier China and Veniceeuhela. From my understanding,

2739
02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:21,360
Speaker 7: China had deals with venez Auhela in regards to the oil.

2740
02:38:21,520 --> 02:38:28,680
Speaker 7: What happens to this now that basically America has tooken

2741
02:38:28,760 --> 02:38:34,200
Speaker 7: over the veniceeuhel And oil and it seems to me

2742
02:38:34,320 --> 02:38:39,320
Speaker 7: in regards to that takeover, they're just gonna allow these

2743
02:38:40,320 --> 02:38:46,760
Speaker 7: American oil companies to come in and I would guess

2744
02:38:47,240 --> 02:38:55,039
Speaker 7: rebuild it the oil and Venezuela and charge Americans for

2745
02:38:55,959 --> 02:39:01,160
Speaker 7: as Trump payback for them donating all the money and

2746
02:39:01,240 --> 02:39:05,680
Speaker 7: getting them back in all there and last three, doctor Horn,

2747
02:39:06,480 --> 02:39:11,560
Speaker 7: my prediction is by the end of the year, the

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02:39:11,600 --> 02:39:17,080
Speaker 7: animal will be like you said, rising and took an

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02:39:17,360 --> 02:39:21,160
Speaker 7: adult that. Thank you as always, my great Africans.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks to Horne.

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02:39:24,840 --> 02:39:27,959
Speaker 15: First of all, with regards to Venezuelan oil, has noted

2752
02:39:28,920 --> 02:39:35,680
Speaker 15: the Maduro comrades still hold power and Karaka this was

2753
02:39:36,040 --> 02:39:39,920
Speaker 15: a decapitation strike. They seized the leader and his spouse.

2754
02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:43,080
Speaker 15: They did not destroy the ruling party. They did not

2755
02:39:43,160 --> 02:39:47,359
Speaker 15: destroy the Venezuelan military or the Venezuelan police. They're still intact.

2756
02:39:48,320 --> 02:39:52,360
Speaker 15: So it's premature on the part of mister Trump to

2757
02:39:52,480 --> 02:39:57,560
Speaker 15: talk about running Venezuela or inviting in US oil companies

2758
02:39:57,600 --> 02:40:01,200
Speaker 15: to fix the infrastructure. This will have to be negotiated

2759
02:40:01,760 --> 02:40:05,160
Speaker 15: with regard to Bikina fosso well. Obviously there's a split

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02:40:05,240 --> 02:40:06,959
Speaker 15: in West Africa. On the one hand, you have this

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Speaker 15: the Health States led bar Bikina Fasso, Nijer Mali for example,

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02:40:13,040 --> 02:40:16,760
Speaker 15: and then you have a block that includes Cote du Grois.

2763
02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:19,280
Speaker 15: Recall what I just said about how President of Wichar

2764
02:40:19,360 --> 02:40:25,080
Speaker 15: rob was put into power at the point of French Bayonets,

2765
02:40:25,120 --> 02:40:28,640
Speaker 15: seizing his opponent Lauren Bacco and his spouse and sending

2766
02:40:28,680 --> 02:40:32,120
Speaker 15: them off to the Ague to stand trial. Nigeria is

2767
02:40:32,160 --> 02:40:35,720
Speaker 15: the superpower of that region. It is firmly in the

2768
02:40:35,840 --> 02:40:39,840
Speaker 15: US camp called that. On Christmas Day, mister Trump, with

2769
02:40:39,920 --> 02:40:45,280
Speaker 15: the cooperation of the Nigerian authorities, bombed in Northwest Nigerian,

2770
02:40:46,040 --> 02:40:49,440
Speaker 15: which is dangerously close to the Health States. Even though

2771
02:40:50,160 --> 02:40:54,360
Speaker 15: the so called religious Zelots who call themselves Muslims or

2772
02:40:54,360 --> 02:40:58,480
Speaker 15: in the northeast part of the country. That's like there's

2773
02:40:58,520 --> 02:41:01,320
Speaker 15: a problem in Seattle or a new bomb in Boston,

2774
02:41:01,520 --> 02:41:06,879
Speaker 15: for example, or vice versa. So it's too soon to

2775
02:41:07,040 --> 02:41:10,200
Speaker 15: make predictions about what will happen in Burkina, Fostero and

2776
02:41:10,240 --> 02:41:13,400
Speaker 15: the so helled States. But certainly they're following the news

2777
02:41:13,440 --> 02:41:15,959
Speaker 15: just like we're following the news, and I'm sure they'll

2778
02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:19,840
Speaker 15: be tightening security. They'll be tightening their relations with China

2779
02:41:19,920 --> 02:41:23,360
Speaker 15: and Russia, perhaps Cuba as well, which is one of

2780
02:41:23,400 --> 02:41:26,039
Speaker 15: the many reasons why I think that this kidnapping of

2781
02:41:26,120 --> 02:41:28,080
Speaker 15: Maduro and his spouse will backfire here.

2782
02:41:29,160 --> 02:41:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just add to that. Donald Trump alerted

2783
02:41:31,840 --> 02:41:35,480
Speaker 1: the oil companies here Stateside that he was going into

2784
02:41:36,000 --> 02:41:40,160
Speaker 1: and kidnap Maduro before he even did it. He told

2785
02:41:40,240 --> 02:41:42,119
Speaker 1: he gave him a tip. He also gave some news

2786
02:41:42,120 --> 02:41:45,520
Speaker 1: people that he likes a tip. But Bikino Fassa dot

2787
02:41:45,560 --> 02:41:47,160
Speaker 1: torn I'm not sure if you've heard that there was

2788
02:41:47,200 --> 02:41:51,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be a coup attempt that was thwarted, may

2789
02:41:51,560 --> 02:41:54,640
Speaker 1: have been yesterday in Bikino Fosso, so they're on the

2790
02:41:54,680 --> 02:41:57,200
Speaker 1: alert there. And what happened to some of the reports

2791
02:41:57,200 --> 02:42:00,360
Speaker 1: that I've seen is that the residents of Bikino Foshi.

2792
02:42:00,720 --> 02:42:03,800
Speaker 1: They all went to the you know, to protect the

2793
02:42:03,879 --> 02:42:06,120
Speaker 1: protect their leader because what they saw was happening. They

2794
02:42:06,200 --> 02:42:08,080
Speaker 1: heard that a coup at tempould take place and the

2795
02:42:08,080 --> 02:42:10,920
Speaker 1: French had sort of infiltrated, and they went there to

2796
02:42:10,959 --> 02:42:14,200
Speaker 1: make sure that no harm comes to Tahraar. So yeah,

2797
02:42:14,800 --> 02:42:16,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're sure if you've heard those

2798
02:42:16,360 --> 02:42:17,520
Speaker 1: reports as as well.

2799
02:42:18,480 --> 02:42:20,920
Speaker 15: Well I heard those reports. But with this underscores as

2800
02:42:20,920 --> 02:42:23,560
Speaker 15: well is that we need more organization on this side

2801
02:42:23,600 --> 02:42:27,920
Speaker 15: of the Atlantic. So the demids of trans Africa under

2802
02:42:27,959 --> 02:42:31,480
Speaker 15: the leadership of the late Randall Robinson, there have not

2803
02:42:31,760 --> 02:42:37,560
Speaker 15: been organizations headquartered in Washington with staff and resources to

2804
02:42:37,680 --> 02:42:43,800
Speaker 15: mobilize our community with regard to these challenges to African sovereignty,

2805
02:42:44,720 --> 02:42:50,520
Speaker 15: and that needs to be reinvigorated. Or alternatively, we need

2806
02:42:50,640 --> 02:42:55,480
Speaker 15: existing organizations to develop a branch or an armed focused

2807
02:42:55,560 --> 02:42:59,960
Speaker 15: on the question of solidarity in the Caribbean and in Africa.

2808
02:43:00,320 --> 02:43:04,040
Speaker 15: Because Mia Motley, the Prime Minister of Barbados, has been

2809
02:43:04,120 --> 02:43:07,400
Speaker 15: quite outspoken of late on climate change or reparations to

2810
02:43:07,520 --> 02:43:12,200
Speaker 15: descendants of enslaved Africans and the Americas. Barbados only has

2811
02:43:12,240 --> 02:43:16,680
Speaker 15: a population about three hundred thousand. If this trend of

2812
02:43:16,840 --> 02:43:21,480
Speaker 15: kidnapping leaders continues the pace, she might be in the crossairs.

2813
02:43:21,800 --> 02:43:25,040
Speaker 15: What are we going to do if that happens besides complaint?

2814
02:43:26,520 --> 02:43:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a conversation with the Ambassador Aaron Conna

2815
02:43:30,480 --> 02:43:33,680
Speaker 1: Chernbari Quah on Sunday and she basically said her group

2816
02:43:33,920 --> 02:43:37,000
Speaker 1: ad d I they're basically trying to fill that gapium

2817
02:43:37,040 --> 02:43:40,000
Speaker 1: the vacuum that you discussed. So we could probably hear

2818
02:43:40,000 --> 02:43:42,520
Speaker 1: from her in a few weeks about how they intend

2819
02:43:42,600 --> 02:43:44,760
Speaker 1: to do that because they've been working closely with the

2820
02:43:44,800 --> 02:43:48,039
Speaker 1: folks in Bikino Fossil twenty eight minutes after the top

2821
02:43:48,080 --> 02:43:50,480
Speaker 1: they have family eight hundred four or five zero seventy

2822
02:43:50,520 --> 02:43:53,080
Speaker 1: eight to seventy six. Sister Denise Muhammedi has joined us

2823
02:43:53,080 --> 02:43:55,480
Speaker 1: from Richmond. Slama Lek and my sister, you're on with

2824
02:43:55,520 --> 02:43:56,359
Speaker 1: doctor Gerald.

2825
02:43:56,120 --> 02:44:00,720
Speaker 20: Horn Well, Niga Salona. That a crazy Thank you for

2826
02:44:00,800 --> 02:44:04,320
Speaker 20: taking my call. I'd be looking forward to doctor man

2827
02:44:04,560 --> 02:44:09,120
Speaker 20: when it comes on. My question is we've seen over

2828
02:44:09,160 --> 02:44:13,160
Speaker 20: the years invasions and captures of leaders.

2829
02:44:12,800 --> 02:44:14,080
Speaker 17: All over the world.

2830
02:44:14,800 --> 02:44:18,920
Speaker 20: This was a legal invasion, this was illegal capture. Have

2831
02:44:19,040 --> 02:44:22,720
Speaker 20: our brother man Dua and we also have seen a

2832
02:44:22,720 --> 02:44:26,880
Speaker 20: lot of our people, leaders in power being betrayed. Our

2833
02:44:26,959 --> 02:44:31,760
Speaker 20: cabinet members, so called associates, friends, saw the treats of Mumba.

2834
02:44:32,120 --> 02:44:35,520
Speaker 20: We even saw it on this soil Hampton Mark clock

2835
02:44:35,680 --> 02:44:41,760
Speaker 20: from Chicago and all of their congresss. My question is

2836
02:44:41,760 --> 02:44:46,279
Speaker 20: is it possible somebody in whether Maduda's cabinet has something

2837
02:44:46,280 --> 02:44:48,320
Speaker 20: to do with portraying him.

2838
02:44:48,600 --> 02:44:53,280
Speaker 15: Thank you for taking my call. It's possible. The New

2839
02:44:53,360 --> 02:44:57,879
Speaker 15: York Times reports that there was CIA penetration of the

2840
02:44:57,959 --> 02:44:59,000
Speaker 15: highest levels with.

2841
02:44:59,080 --> 02:44:59,920
Speaker 4: The Maduro.

2842
02:45:01,480 --> 02:45:06,560
Speaker 15: And that in the run up to January third, you

2843
02:45:06,760 --> 02:45:13,560
Speaker 15: had the National Geospatial Agency, which is a companion agency

2844
02:45:13,600 --> 02:45:17,560
Speaker 15: of the Central Intelligence Agency and Defense Intelligence Agency, that

2845
02:45:17,720 --> 02:45:22,600
Speaker 15: was monitoring mobile phones. For example, you had drones in

2846
02:45:22,680 --> 02:45:26,000
Speaker 15: the air over Caracas, which was seeking to monitor the

2847
02:45:26,040 --> 02:45:30,560
Speaker 15: whereabouts of mister mcdurol, because like many leaders, he would

2848
02:45:30,640 --> 02:45:34,480
Speaker 15: spend the night at this place and then the next

2849
02:45:34,560 --> 02:45:37,920
Speaker 15: night he'd spent it at that place, for example. So

2850
02:45:38,160 --> 02:45:41,280
Speaker 15: even if you remove the human element in terms of

2851
02:45:41,520 --> 02:45:49,760
Speaker 15: CIA penetration, there's electronic monitoring and that can be quite effective.

2852
02:45:50,560 --> 02:45:52,720
Speaker 15: And I should also add something that has not been

2853
02:45:52,760 --> 02:45:57,160
Speaker 15: noted to this point. If the United States is capable

2854
02:45:58,040 --> 02:46:02,720
Speaker 15: of kidnapping a leader in Canakas and forcing that leader

2855
02:46:02,800 --> 02:46:06,200
Speaker 15: to stand trial, well, then obviously that opens the door

2856
02:46:06,920 --> 02:46:10,000
Speaker 15: the similar types of renditions right here in the United

2857
02:46:10,040 --> 02:46:13,720
Speaker 15: States of America, or as mister Trump floated a few

2858
02:46:13,760 --> 02:46:17,440
Speaker 15: months ago, kidnapping leaders in the United States and sending

2859
02:46:17,440 --> 02:46:20,279
Speaker 15: them to prisons in El Salvador, for example.

2860
02:46:22,040 --> 02:46:26,080
Speaker 1: Something's a ponders out there. I want you, want to

2861
02:46:26,080 --> 02:46:28,520
Speaker 1: ask you about the slavery gun on in the East

2862
02:46:28,560 --> 02:46:30,680
Speaker 1: and North Africa. But before we do that, though, Dante

2863
02:46:30,760 --> 02:46:32,760
Speaker 1: has a question for you. You're coming from Baltimore's on

2864
02:46:32,840 --> 02:46:36,039
Speaker 1: line three, Grand Rising. Dante, your question for doctor.

2865
02:46:35,760 --> 02:46:39,840
Speaker 21: Horne, Hey Grand Rising family, and hey doctor Horne. I

2866
02:46:39,879 --> 02:46:43,280
Speaker 21: had a quick question in reference to I'm Dante with

2867
02:46:43,440 --> 02:46:46,800
Speaker 21: Maculate Triple, our group where we refer business to each

2868
02:46:46,800 --> 02:46:50,600
Speaker 21: other as our community. But I've wanted to ask you

2869
02:46:50,800 --> 02:46:54,080
Speaker 21: because I want to have a guidance of what companies

2870
02:46:54,200 --> 02:46:57,280
Speaker 21: should we be focusing on, because as black people, we

2871
02:46:57,600 --> 02:46:59,640
Speaker 21: always seem to get the last end of the curve.

2872
02:47:00,120 --> 02:47:03,160
Speaker 21: What companies should we be focusing on? Following with Donald

2873
02:47:03,160 --> 02:47:05,600
Speaker 21: Trump and them a reference to the oil things and

2874
02:47:05,640 --> 02:47:09,880
Speaker 21: stuff like that going on, meaning like maybe companies that

2875
02:47:09,920 --> 02:47:12,800
Speaker 21: we should invest in because our companies are Chevron is

2876
02:47:12,800 --> 02:47:14,640
Speaker 21: going to get it and things like that, meaning we

2877
02:47:14,680 --> 02:47:17,200
Speaker 21: need to start with a new curve. Everything that was

2878
02:47:17,280 --> 02:47:19,360
Speaker 21: normal about making money is going to be out. So

2879
02:47:19,400 --> 02:47:21,560
Speaker 21: that's my question to you, because you're a critical thinker,

2880
02:47:21,920 --> 02:47:24,240
Speaker 21: what do you think we as a black people should

2881
02:47:24,280 --> 02:47:27,440
Speaker 21: start doing. As far as, of course, following what Trump

2882
02:47:27,440 --> 02:47:30,040
Speaker 21: and them are doing, meaning stocks, cryptocurrency, we have to

2883
02:47:30,080 --> 02:47:32,040
Speaker 21: learn something different. But what do you think as far

2884
02:47:32,080 --> 02:47:34,840
Speaker 21: as those companies that are over there in Venezuela. Since

2885
02:47:34,840 --> 02:47:37,800
Speaker 21: you're kind of well rounded with that Venezuela, is there

2886
02:47:37,800 --> 02:47:40,840
Speaker 21: other companies oil companies that we should invest in over

2887
02:47:40,879 --> 02:47:42,600
Speaker 21: there or over here that you can think of.

2888
02:47:44,080 --> 02:47:46,240
Speaker 15: Well, you know, I'm not an investment counselor, but I

2889
02:47:46,280 --> 02:47:50,360
Speaker 15: will say it's pretty muture to start thinking about the

2890
02:47:50,480 --> 02:47:54,160
Speaker 15: US oil companies that could profit from exploitation of veness

2891
02:47:54,160 --> 02:47:57,959
Speaker 15: One resources, because I keep saying that the regime is

2892
02:47:58,000 --> 02:48:02,800
Speaker 15: still intact and they've already offered entrede to US companies.

2893
02:48:03,240 --> 02:48:08,280
Speaker 15: Chevron obviously is already there. For example, with regard to

2894
02:48:08,280 --> 02:48:12,080
Speaker 15: investments generally, you may be aware of the fact that

2895
02:48:12,120 --> 02:48:15,280
Speaker 15: Michael Berry, who was involved in the movie The Big

2896
02:48:15,320 --> 02:48:19,240
Speaker 15: Short he bet upon the collapse of the housing market

2897
02:48:19,280 --> 02:48:22,480
Speaker 15: and made a pretty penny. Now he's betting on the

2898
02:48:22,520 --> 02:48:28,279
Speaker 15: collapse of AI. Look at all of these investments in Nvidia,

2899
02:48:28,520 --> 02:48:34,160
Speaker 15: a multi tradeon dollar corporation, Meta, Facebook invested in AI,

2900
02:48:34,800 --> 02:48:39,760
Speaker 15: Alphabet Google invested in AI, Microsoft invested in AI. He

2901
02:48:39,840 --> 02:48:42,320
Speaker 15: sees that as a bubble that's bound to be pricked.

2902
02:48:42,400 --> 02:48:46,760
Speaker 15: He's betting that there will be a collapse of that

2903
02:48:46,920 --> 02:48:51,040
Speaker 15: AI bubble. And so he's betting against the continued rise

2904
02:48:51,360 --> 02:48:53,960
Speaker 15: of the AI sector of the economy. And of course,

2905
02:48:54,400 --> 02:48:57,280
Speaker 15: just like you can bet that stocks will go up,

2906
02:48:57,360 --> 02:49:00,560
Speaker 15: you can also bet the stocks will go down. And

2907
02:49:01,120 --> 02:49:03,840
Speaker 15: actually I'm not an investment counselor, but I think he

2908
02:49:03,879 --> 02:49:04,440
Speaker 15: has a point.

2909
02:49:05,600 --> 02:49:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said in a conversation with brother Sidiki about

2910
02:49:08,040 --> 02:49:10,520
Speaker 1: that as well. Twenty seven minutes away from the top day,

2911
02:49:11,040 --> 02:49:13,720
Speaker 1: Dr Holmer tell us about it. This issue is slavery

2912
02:49:13,800 --> 02:49:17,400
Speaker 1: still in effect in Northern Africa or in East Africa

2913
02:49:17,480 --> 02:49:20,560
Speaker 1: or in North Africa. Can you share what information you

2914
02:49:20,600 --> 02:49:21,120
Speaker 1: know about that?

2915
02:49:22,120 --> 02:49:24,600
Speaker 15: Well, you're referring to a book I'll published later this

2916
02:49:24,760 --> 02:49:30,560
Speaker 15: year which deals with slavery the slave Tree in Northern Africa,

2917
02:49:30,600 --> 02:49:35,039
Speaker 15: West Asia, particularly Saudi Arabia and the Ottoman Turks, who

2918
02:49:35,040 --> 02:49:40,560
Speaker 15: were a major player in that market. Slavery began to

2919
02:49:40,640 --> 02:49:44,439
Speaker 15: disintegrate in that part of the world decades after disintegrated

2920
02:49:44,520 --> 02:49:48,519
Speaker 15: in North America, for example, in the nineteen twenties in particular,

2921
02:49:49,160 --> 02:49:54,680
Speaker 15: but in countries like Mauritania due north of Senegal. They're

2922
02:49:54,720 --> 02:50:00,600
Speaker 15: credible report of slavery continuing to persist in Libya. After

2923
02:50:00,640 --> 02:50:06,720
Speaker 15: the overthrow of Kadafi about twenty eleven, slavery began to

2924
02:50:06,760 --> 02:50:10,200
Speaker 15: rear its ugly head once more. In my book, I'll

2925
02:50:10,240 --> 02:50:13,080
Speaker 15: talk about the fact that when the Saudi leaders came

2926
02:50:13,120 --> 02:50:18,000
Speaker 15: to Washington in nineteen fifty seven, they were accompanied by

2927
02:50:18,280 --> 02:50:24,039
Speaker 15: towering Nubian male slaves, for example, acting as their security.

2928
02:50:24,800 --> 02:50:27,360
Speaker 15: So stay tuned for my book, which.

2929
02:50:27,280 --> 02:50:32,400
Speaker 10: Would be out by Octour, And the title of the book,

2930
02:50:32,879 --> 02:50:36,800
Speaker 10: the title before the colon is Slavery and the Slave

2931
02:50:36,879 --> 02:50:39,840
Speaker 10: Trade and the Roots of US imperialism.

2932
02:50:39,920 --> 02:50:44,359
Speaker 15: And then it goes on to talk about North Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia,

2933
02:50:44,920 --> 02:50:49,280
Speaker 15: West Africa, West Asia, Ottoman Turkey, and Russia. I mean,

2934
02:50:49,320 --> 02:50:53,080
Speaker 15: for example, Ethiopia had been a major target for slave

2935
02:50:53,120 --> 02:50:57,720
Speaker 15: traders going well before the era of the Atlantic slave trade,

2936
02:50:57,760 --> 02:51:01,800
Speaker 15: which commences in the fifteen hundreds, for example, and Ethiopia

2937
02:51:01,920 --> 02:51:06,800
Speaker 15: internally also had slavery as well.

2938
02:51:08,840 --> 02:51:11,600
Speaker 1: Wow, twenty five away from the top val I guess,

2939
02:51:11,680 --> 02:51:17,440
Speaker 1: doctor Gerald Horn, Doctor Horn, Somaliland. Why is Israel recognizing

2940
02:51:17,480 --> 02:51:18,960
Speaker 1: Somali Land? What's going on there?

2941
02:51:20,480 --> 02:51:23,879
Speaker 15: Well, this goes back to the era of colonialism, when

2942
02:51:24,200 --> 02:51:31,760
Speaker 15: Somaya was carved up by European colonizers and Italy was

2943
02:51:32,000 --> 02:51:34,720
Speaker 15: a colonizer in that part of Africa, and Britain was

2944
02:51:34,760 --> 02:51:41,000
Speaker 15: a colonizer, and that set the stage for the breakaway

2945
02:51:41,080 --> 02:51:44,720
Speaker 15: province of Somali Land, which broke away from the larger Somaya.

2946
02:51:45,879 --> 02:51:51,359
Speaker 15: And what's happened now is that Somaliland, this breakaway province,

2947
02:51:51,920 --> 02:51:57,039
Speaker 15: has declared a kind of independence. They've been recognized by Israel.

2948
02:51:57,280 --> 02:52:02,520
Speaker 15: Israel thinks that it can have an ally against the

2949
02:52:02,640 --> 02:52:06,240
Speaker 15: Yemenies across the Red Sea. Recalled that during the post

2950
02:52:06,280 --> 02:52:11,640
Speaker 15: October seventh War in Gossm that the Yemenies were shooting

2951
02:52:11,720 --> 02:52:16,040
Speaker 15: missiles into the Israeli Port of a Lot, basically shutting

2952
02:52:16,040 --> 02:52:22,320
Speaker 15: that port down. But this Israeli recognition has outraged many neighbors,

2953
02:52:22,360 --> 02:52:27,920
Speaker 15: including Egypt and Eritrea. In the first instance, Ethiopia, of course,

2954
02:52:28,520 --> 02:52:32,520
Speaker 15: is playing a sort of double game because it wants

2955
02:52:32,560 --> 02:52:35,400
Speaker 15: an outlet to the sea and hit. It broken an

2956
02:52:35,440 --> 02:52:40,600
Speaker 15: agreement with Somaliland to have such access, but it does

2957
02:52:40,640 --> 02:52:43,680
Speaker 15: not want to be on the bad side of Egypt

2958
02:52:44,000 --> 02:52:48,120
Speaker 15: and Eritrea simultaneously, so it's walking a fine line. The

2959
02:52:48,200 --> 02:52:52,200
Speaker 15: Arab League the African Union are hotly opposed to this

2960
02:52:52,560 --> 02:52:57,560
Speaker 15: Israeli recognition. And in fact, before this Maduro issue was

2961
02:52:57,680 --> 02:53:01,200
Speaker 15: raised today as a security account, what we expected a

2962
02:53:01,240 --> 02:53:04,880
Speaker 15: debate about some money land. I assume it's been postponed.

2963
02:53:06,080 --> 02:53:08,120
Speaker 1: Old that though right there, twenty three minutes away from

2964
02:53:08,160 --> 02:53:09,400
Speaker 1: the top day and we come back. I on to

2965
02:53:09,440 --> 02:53:13,000
Speaker 1: talk about Zambia using the yuhon the Chinese money, you han,

2966
02:53:13,240 --> 02:53:14,840
Speaker 1: Is this what we'll see is going to happen now

2967
02:53:14,879 --> 02:53:17,600
Speaker 1: instead of trading in dollars, they go into the Chinese yuhan.

2968
02:53:17,760 --> 02:53:21,440
Speaker 1: Is that the going to be the world's reverse reserve currency.

2969
02:53:21,440 --> 02:53:23,480
Speaker 1: I'll let you tell us about that when we get back.

2970
02:53:23,560 --> 02:53:25,680
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, it's twenty three minutes away from the top. Yeah,

2971
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Speaker 1: with doctor Jerrold Horne, you got a question for him? Family,

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Speaker 1: reach out to us I telephone numbers easy, It's eight

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Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero, seventy eight, seventy six, and

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Speaker 1: we'll taket phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks

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Speaker 1: for sticking with us on this Monday morning. Thanks for

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02:53:37,680 --> 02:53:39,560
Speaker 1: starting your week with us. Is seventeen minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top our guest doctor Gerald Horn, Doctor Jerild Horne.

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Speaker 1: Before we left to break, my question to you about Zambia.

2979
02:53:44,959 --> 02:53:47,920
Speaker 1: Sambia is doing business with China and they're paying using

2980
02:53:48,120 --> 02:53:51,000
Speaker 1: the Chinese yuon. Is this the what we see is

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02:53:51,040 --> 02:53:53,480
Speaker 1: the future? Is the euon going to be replaced the

2982
02:53:54,240 --> 02:53:57,240
Speaker 1: dollar as the world's reverse reserve currency?

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02:53:58,640 --> 02:53:59,080
Speaker 3: Well, you know it.

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Speaker 15: At a certain point the twentieth century, the British palm

2985
02:54:03,120 --> 02:54:06,760
Speaker 15: was replaced by the US dollar as the British Empire

2986
02:54:07,440 --> 02:54:11,680
Speaker 15: went into a downward spiral. The US Empire is in

2987
02:54:11,720 --> 02:54:15,560
Speaker 15: the process of being in a downward spiral as well,

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02:54:16,440 --> 02:54:21,840
Speaker 15: the crisis in Venezuela. Notwithstanding, I think that it's been

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02:54:21,879 --> 02:54:26,240
Speaker 15: avoidable that in the twenty first century the US dollar

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02:54:26,280 --> 02:54:30,800
Speaker 15: will be supplanted, perhaps by the Chinese currency, perhaps by

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02:54:30,840 --> 02:54:33,720
Speaker 15: a basket of currencies, that is to say, the euro

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02:54:34,720 --> 02:54:39,280
Speaker 15: for example, which is involved in the European Union. As

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02:54:39,280 --> 02:54:41,440
Speaker 15: you know, in the European Union has a larger market

2994
02:54:42,280 --> 02:54:45,000
Speaker 15: than that of the United States of America or fifty

2995
02:54:45,040 --> 02:54:48,760
Speaker 15: three million versus three hundred and forty three million. So

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Speaker 15: with regard to what the previous caller was talking about

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02:54:54,360 --> 02:54:59,039
Speaker 15: in terms of investment advice, you may in terms of

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02:54:59,080 --> 02:55:02,120
Speaker 15: your stock poll and once again I'm not an investment

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02:55:02,200 --> 02:55:07,720
Speaker 15: counselor you may want to short or not necessarily be

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02:55:07,800 --> 02:55:13,279
Speaker 15: heavily invested in a number of US corporations, for example,

3001
02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:18,040
Speaker 15: these corporations that are investing so heavily in Ai and

3002
02:55:18,120 --> 02:55:20,760
Speaker 15: may want to look beyond the shores of this country.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha hearing that as well. Sixteen Away from the Top,

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Speaker 1: a tweet question for you. Tweet says ask a doctor

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02:55:28,360 --> 02:55:31,520
Speaker 1: Horn that I read that the Arab slave trade in

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02:55:31,560 --> 02:55:34,520
Speaker 1: Africa was more damaging than the trans Atlantic slave trade.

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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02:55:37,080 --> 02:55:39,800
Speaker 15: Well, it depends on what you mean by damaging, and

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02:55:39,800 --> 02:55:43,800
Speaker 15: it depends on what you mean by the Arab slave trade. Certainly,

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02:55:43,840 --> 02:55:48,080
Speaker 15: as my book will suggest, there was a slave trade

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02:55:48,160 --> 02:55:53,640
Speaker 15: heading northward to North Africa, particularly to Morocco, and there

3012
02:55:53,680 --> 02:55:59,640
Speaker 15: was a slave trade heading eastward to Saudi Arabia, heading

3013
02:55:59,720 --> 02:56:03,959
Speaker 15: north worked to Automan Turkey, for example, and it lasted

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Speaker 15: longer than the Atlantic slave trade, and to that extent,

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02:56:06,680 --> 02:56:09,800
Speaker 15: I guess you could say it was more damaging than

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02:56:09,840 --> 02:56:15,360
Speaker 15: the Atlantic slave trade. And it's something that really needs

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02:56:15,480 --> 02:56:18,760
Speaker 15: more ventilation. And that's what my book intends to address.

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Speaker 1: And the title of the book One more Time dot.

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Speaker 15: Slavery and the slave Trade in the Roots of US Imperialism.

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Speaker 15: Then the subtitle is North Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, West Asia, Automa,

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Speaker 15: Turkey and Russia.

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Speaker 1: I had another tweet question for you. Tweeter says, the

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Speaker 1: Russians and China all have ships parked near Venezuela. Was

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02:56:43,200 --> 02:56:45,160
Speaker 1: there a deal cut with them about the oil?

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Speaker 15: Well, it's no secret that the Russian and China are

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Speaker 15: close to the regime in Caracas has noted. The Chinese

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02:56:55,000 --> 02:56:58,400
Speaker 15: leadership was meeting in Caracas with President Maduro right before

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Speaker 15: he was kidnapped. The tankers that are leaving with oil

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02:57:04,080 --> 02:57:08,680
Speaker 15: from Venezuela, some of them have thrown up a Russian

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02:57:08,720 --> 02:57:13,519
Speaker 15: flag to prevent the US authorities from boarding them and

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Speaker 15: seizing the tanker and sailing them into Houston, which happened

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Speaker 15: a few weeks ago. But this is a matter of

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Speaker 15: public record. It does not require speculation.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned the system Martley from the I think

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Speaker 1: Barbados earlier, there has been it seems to be a

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Speaker 1: schism in the Caribbean nations about with Venezuela, with trend

3037
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Speaker 1: add and Tobago supporting. What's going on with Venezuela. How

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02:57:37,440 --> 02:57:40,400
Speaker 1: is that working out for cara Com.

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Speaker 15: Well, it's very unfortunate the position of Venezuela. And I

3040
02:57:44,680 --> 02:57:48,359
Speaker 15: might also add that Guyana, which is the only predominantly

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02:57:48,360 --> 02:57:51,320
Speaker 15: English speaking nation in South America but is considered part

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Speaker 15: of the Caribbean Bloc and cara Com, they have territorial

3043
02:57:55,480 --> 02:57:58,520
Speaker 15: disputes with Venezuela stretching back to the end of the

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Speaker 15: nineteenth century. They have not necessarily been opposed to. This

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Speaker 15: anti Maduro crusade spiritaded by Washington obviously has introduced a

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Speaker 15: rift into care COM. Even though Cuba is not necessarily

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Speaker 15: a one hundred percent member of care COM, it wields

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Speaker 15: a lot of influence in the region because of dispatching

3049
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Speaker 15: of doctors and medics. And this is a rift that's

3050
02:58:24,560 --> 02:58:29,160
Speaker 15: going to have to be addressed, because we should warn

3051
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Speaker 15: the leaders of Trinidad and Tobago and Guyana in particular

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02:58:34,040 --> 02:58:36,560
Speaker 15: that if they don't play ball with Washington, they could

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Speaker 15: be subjected their leaders at least to Maduro type kidnappings.

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Speaker 15: And Guyana does not have to be reminded of that.

3055
02:58:43,160 --> 02:58:46,440
Speaker 15: Recalled that when it tries to declare to a certain

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02:58:46,520 --> 02:58:49,320
Speaker 15: kind of sovereignty in nineteen fifty three, that they were

3057
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Speaker 15: subjected to destabilization by the CIA for years, helping to

3058
02:58:53,240 --> 02:58:58,360
Speaker 15: stir up tensions and exacerbate tensions between the African population

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02:58:58,480 --> 02:59:02,039
Speaker 15: and the South Asian population, for example, tensions that continued

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Speaker 15: to purpoly.

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Speaker 1: And having said that though Guyana just e real, just

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Speaker 1: I guess in a year or so ago they just

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02:59:08,560 --> 02:59:12,120
Speaker 1: discovered more oil reserves or petroleum oil reserves, could that

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Speaker 1: be a target as well for the Guyanese.

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Speaker 15: Well, yes, the Guyanese have discovered oil. Of course, they're

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02:59:19,760 --> 02:59:23,840
Speaker 15: playing ball with the US oil investors, and that's one

3067
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Speaker 15: of the reasons they have not been in the cross

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Speaker 15: the ears. The problem from watching this point of view

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Speaker 15: with regard to Venezuela was not that the Venezuelans were

3070
02:59:33,280 --> 02:59:35,960
Speaker 15: trying to keep the Yankees out of the oil fields.

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02:59:36,520 --> 02:59:40,560
Speaker 15: They just wanted more revenue from the oil, just like

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Speaker 15: with regardless of the health States, you noticed that when

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Speaker 15: you had to change of regime in Nizir, the Nigerian

3074
02:59:47,360 --> 02:59:51,680
Speaker 15: authorities not try to keep the French from getting the uranium.

3075
02:59:51,720 --> 02:59:55,560
Speaker 15: They just wanted a higher price for the urinium. And

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02:59:55,600 --> 03:00:00,640
Speaker 15: increasingly that's the dividing line. During the Cold War it

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03:00:00,680 --> 03:00:03,760
Speaker 15: was different and so far as nations wanted total control

3078
03:00:04,720 --> 03:00:07,720
Speaker 15: over their natural resources. Now they just want a better price.

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Speaker 15: But that's not good enough for the imperials.

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Speaker 1: Ten away from the top of this, now that the

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Speaker 1: United States comes in that this increased the blockade against

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Speaker 1: Cuba because Cuba is getting oil from Venezuela. Is this

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Speaker 1: a plan to uh, you know, to destabilize the Cuban

3084
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Speaker 1: government by getting that the residents. The Cuban residents all

3085
03:00:26,360 --> 03:00:29,160
Speaker 1: upset because the economy is going in the tank and

3086
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Speaker 1: they'll blame their leaders. Is that is that the long

3087
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Speaker 1: term plan? Do you think for this administration, especially with

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Speaker 1: Marco Rudio Rubio, he wants to go after the Cuban leaders.

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Speaker 1: You think this is in the crossairs they're in the

3090
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Speaker 1: crossairs now of the administration.

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Speaker 15: Well, clearly they are, but they need to pay attention

3092
03:00:47,560 --> 03:00:51,800
Speaker 15: to their own front yard. Recall that you just had

3093
03:00:51,840 --> 03:00:55,400
Speaker 15: an election in Miami and for the first time in decades,

3094
03:00:55,840 --> 03:01:02,400
Speaker 15: the Cuban American Mafia were defeated by Eileen Higgins. Similarly,

3095
03:01:03,080 --> 03:01:07,320
Speaker 15: you have the irony taking place of Cubans without proper

3096
03:01:07,400 --> 03:01:13,000
Speaker 15: documentation in South Florida being deported to Guantanamo where Haitians

3097
03:01:13,040 --> 03:01:18,320
Speaker 15: were formerly housed. So with regard to engaging these seaver

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03:01:18,560 --> 03:01:22,200
Speaker 15: dreams about regime change and Havana, I would urge and

3099
03:01:22,280 --> 03:01:25,879
Speaker 15: suggest to the Cuban Americans of South Florida that they

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03:01:26,000 --> 03:01:31,680
Speaker 15: put pressure on the Trumpet regime so that their comrades

3101
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Speaker 15: do not wind up in Guantanamo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about some sports. Doctor Horn San Antonio

3103
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Speaker 1: Spurs your thoughts on them and Wemby your thoughts on Wenby.

3104
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Speaker 1: Some people say that they thought he would be more

3105
03:01:45,920 --> 03:01:48,800
Speaker 1: dominating in the paint. They would be he'd be more dominating,

3106
03:01:48,840 --> 03:01:51,280
Speaker 1: the spurs would be running away with the NBA, and

3107
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Speaker 1: they're not seeing that because he's kind of like a

3108
03:01:53,760 --> 03:01:55,960
Speaker 1: finesse kind of player, kind of reminds you of Careem

3109
03:01:56,000 --> 03:02:00,440
Speaker 1: Abdul Jabarbie. They're not that you know, robust guy in

3110
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Speaker 1: the center, you know, throwing down dunks and you know,

3111
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Speaker 1: like the regular centers dude, and your thoughts on Wemby

3112
03:02:05,720 --> 03:02:07,959
Speaker 1: and the San Antonio Spurs, Well.

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Speaker 15: This is where you have to keep up with the

3114
03:02:09,120 --> 03:02:11,800
Speaker 15: news because in the past few weeks the Spurs have

3115
03:02:11,879 --> 03:02:16,640
Speaker 15: defeated the reigning champion Oklahoma City thundered three times in

3116
03:02:16,680 --> 03:02:23,240
Speaker 15: a row, and Wemby has You know, he's not muscular

3117
03:02:23,440 --> 03:02:29,039
Speaker 15: like Shaquille for example, he is thinner, but he's taking

3118
03:02:29,120 --> 03:02:33,640
Speaker 15: less three pointers this year. He right now, I would say,

3119
03:02:33,800 --> 03:02:38,200
Speaker 15: is the most dominant player in the NBA and will

3120
03:02:38,240 --> 03:02:41,400
Speaker 15: only get better. Recall that he's spent the off season

3121
03:02:42,840 --> 03:02:46,680
Speaker 15: in China working on martial arts and working on his

3122
03:02:46,840 --> 03:02:53,240
Speaker 15: muscular ture and his psychology for example. He plans to

3123
03:02:53,280 --> 03:02:56,760
Speaker 15: continue that regime and probably incorporate other sorts of regimes.

3124
03:02:57,280 --> 03:03:00,120
Speaker 15: So the sky is the limit for Wemby.

3125
03:03:02,400 --> 03:03:06,600
Speaker 1: NFL Today's Black Monday Sunday. Atlanta got rid of their

3126
03:03:06,640 --> 03:03:09,920
Speaker 1: coach in just moments ago. The Browns have fired Kevin Stefanski.

3127
03:03:10,320 --> 03:03:13,200
Speaker 1: He had issues with Shador at quarterback that were saying

3128
03:03:13,240 --> 03:03:15,280
Speaker 1: that he didn't want it should or to play the quarterback.

3129
03:03:15,320 --> 03:03:18,000
Speaker 1: He wanted somebody else dying. I think the backup how

3130
03:03:18,000 --> 03:03:19,920
Speaker 1: many coaches you think the A're gonna get fired today,

3131
03:03:20,600 --> 03:03:23,199
Speaker 1: Dr Horn. Who's coaches on the bubble?

3132
03:03:23,280 --> 03:03:28,800
Speaker 15: I mean Pete Carroll of the Los Vegas formerly Oakland Raiders.

3133
03:03:29,600 --> 03:03:31,960
Speaker 15: I'm surprised he hasn't been fired as them yet look

3134
03:03:32,000 --> 03:03:34,879
Speaker 15: at your news war. I mean, I can't believe that

3135
03:03:34,959 --> 03:03:37,680
Speaker 15: he'll survive, even though, if I'm not mistaken, they were

3136
03:03:37,720 --> 03:03:40,640
Speaker 15: able to beat the Kansas City Chiefs yesterday, if I'm

3137
03:03:40,640 --> 03:03:46,039
Speaker 15: not mistaken. But there'll be a number of coaches looking

3138
03:03:46,040 --> 03:03:50,240
Speaker 15: for new jobs. And the coach at Notre Dame, for example,

3139
03:03:50,360 --> 03:03:54,119
Speaker 15: was being mentioned for a number of these NFL posts.

3140
03:03:54,160 --> 03:03:55,959
Speaker 15: But if I were him, I'd stick with Notre Dame.

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03:03:57,360 --> 03:03:58,680
Speaker 1: Let me throw out some of the coaches that I

3142
03:03:58,760 --> 03:04:01,840
Speaker 1: think may make end up being on the employment line today.

3143
03:04:01,840 --> 03:04:03,560
Speaker 1: In Miami, for one, were your thoughts of.

3144
03:04:03,560 --> 03:04:11,480
Speaker 15: That well, Coach McDaniel in many ways has ruined to

3145
03:04:12,000 --> 03:04:14,800
Speaker 15: the quarterback. I mean, they signed him to a big

3146
03:04:14,840 --> 03:04:19,320
Speaker 15: time contract right before the season commenced, and then he

3147
03:04:19,360 --> 03:04:22,959
Speaker 15: wound up on the bench. He's been subjected to concussions.

3148
03:04:23,640 --> 03:04:27,760
Speaker 15: Miami has disappointed this year. I expect him to be

3149
03:04:27,920 --> 03:04:30,400
Speaker 15: on his way out the door sooner rather than later.

3150
03:04:31,360 --> 03:04:33,760
Speaker 1: And our friends up the road in Baltimore, that coach

3151
03:04:34,400 --> 03:04:35,440
Speaker 1: is on the bubble as well.

3152
03:04:36,000 --> 03:04:38,560
Speaker 6: Your thoughts, well, clearly.

3153
03:04:38,760 --> 03:04:42,160
Speaker 15: I mean many of us expected Baltimore to wind up

3154
03:04:42,240 --> 03:04:46,160
Speaker 15: in the Super Bowl, for example, and he has not

3155
03:04:46,400 --> 03:04:50,199
Speaker 15: used Dereck Henry. Well, Derrick Henry may be the best

3156
03:04:50,280 --> 03:04:54,920
Speaker 15: running back in the NFL, but until recently, he was

3157
03:04:54,920 --> 03:04:57,760
Speaker 15: not getting that many touches even in the fourth quarter,

3158
03:04:58,400 --> 03:05:00,360
Speaker 15: and that was a real hip scratcher. I mean, I

3159
03:05:00,360 --> 03:05:03,680
Speaker 15: don't know if there's some sort of internal dispute that

3160
03:05:03,800 --> 03:05:07,800
Speaker 15: helps to govern that. But coach Hardball, I think, also

3161
03:05:07,920 --> 03:05:08,960
Speaker 15: is on his way out.

3162
03:05:10,560 --> 03:05:12,360
Speaker 1: Jets you looking for a new coach?

3163
03:05:15,400 --> 03:05:18,200
Speaker 15: Well, the poor New York Jets. I mean, I feel

3164
03:05:18,200 --> 03:05:20,680
Speaker 15: sorry for Aaron Glenn, the brother who is the coach,

3165
03:05:20,760 --> 03:05:23,960
Speaker 15: because they just don't have enough horses, they don't have

3166
03:05:24,080 --> 03:05:29,200
Speaker 15: enough good players, and I'm not sure if any coach

3167
03:05:29,240 --> 03:05:33,040
Speaker 15: could turn that team around. And it's easier to fire

3168
03:05:33,080 --> 03:05:37,160
Speaker 15: the coach than to fire four dozen plus football players.

3169
03:05:37,600 --> 03:05:39,640
Speaker 15: And that's the sad fate of Aaron Glenn.

3170
03:05:40,480 --> 03:05:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in bad shape. And Cincinnati and Arizona the

3171
03:05:43,640 --> 03:05:46,360
Speaker 1: other two, I think their coaches may be on the

3172
03:05:46,440 --> 03:05:47,640
Speaker 1: unemployment line today.

3173
03:05:49,720 --> 03:05:52,640
Speaker 15: Well, with regard to Aaron Zona, they put a lot

3174
03:05:52,680 --> 03:05:56,720
Speaker 15: of stock in a mini sized quarterback. Speaking of Kyle

3175
03:05:56,760 --> 03:06:01,080
Speaker 15: and Merray, who's only about five nine, for example, he

3176
03:06:01,160 --> 03:06:05,119
Speaker 15: is fast, he is quick, but he keeps getting injured

3177
03:06:05,360 --> 03:06:09,240
Speaker 15: because it's hard going up against these three hundred pound

3178
03:06:09,800 --> 03:06:14,280
Speaker 15: defensive tackles and defensive ends when you're a five foot

3179
03:06:14,440 --> 03:06:18,600
Speaker 15: nine inch bowing ball, for example. And I think that

3180
03:06:18,680 --> 03:06:22,000
Speaker 15: the coach will have to pay the ultimate price because

3181
03:06:22,000 --> 03:06:23,600
Speaker 15: they're not going to get rid of Kyler Merrick.

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Speaker 1: Right, and doctor Haunt, And I got to ask you

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Speaker 1: about the draft. The first round pick is Indiana's quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Do you see him as the first round is at

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Speaker 1: a consensus choice to be the first round pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft?

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Speaker 15: I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Even though Indiana has

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Speaker 15: really surprised, I still find it hard to believe that

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Speaker 15: they've done so well this year. I mean, they've already

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Speaker 15: beaten Oregon once this year. For example, I expected Ohio

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Speaker 15: State to go all the way, but then they got

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Speaker 15: upset by Miami. So with regard to the first round

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Speaker 15: draft choice, I'm not really sure. Who you think Mendoza

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Speaker 15: the Indiana quarterback. Yeah, yeah, it's possible. I mean it's

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Speaker 15: hard to argue against a winning record, but uh, I

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Speaker 15: don't know. I think that Arch Manning of Texas he

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Speaker 15: said he's coming back next year. And the X factor

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Speaker 15: is the fact that with the NIL money that these

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Speaker 15: college teams can basically pay these quarterbacks five or six

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Speaker 15: million dollars a year, although if they go to the

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Speaker 15: NFL they might get twice as much.

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Speaker 1: Sure that And also a sisters niece want to ask

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Speaker 1: about Cleveland Browns coach. He has been fired, sistant and

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Speaker 1: he said the moments ago the Browns let him go.

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Speaker 1: There was there's a lot of chat about having his

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Speaker 1: use of Sad Sanders during the season. After a while

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Speaker 1: they let him play, but I think there was management

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Speaker 1: putting pressure on him. Your thoughts on but real quickly

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Speaker 1: is the equality quarterback? You think he's got a He's

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Speaker 1: got a few in the NFL, Oh, clearly.

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Speaker 15: I mean he has quick feet, he has a strong arm,

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Speaker 15: he's relatively speedy. Once again, I would rather baffle and

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Speaker 15: why he did not receive more playing time. But then again,

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Speaker 15: look at Colin Kaepernick, for example, who has been banned

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Speaker 15: from the NFL. When the Indiana coach needed a quarterback

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Speaker 15: after Daniel Jones went down. They drafted a relative senior

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Speaker 15: citizen speaking of grandfatherly Philip Rubmins, to be their QB

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Speaker 15: when they could have drafted and they could have recruited

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Speaker 15: to Colin Kaepernick. So these are some very narrow minded

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Speaker 15: executives and pro football.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, before we let you go, how can folks

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Speaker 1: follow you, doctor horn.

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 15: Basically through you Tube because I'm putting content there. Actually,

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Speaker 15: this conversation will be there soon as you send me

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Speaker 15: the link, and if not there, I would say Facebook.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you doctor, and thank you for all

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Speaker 1: the information you shared. Religious morning, thank you for inviting me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Family classes dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, please

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Speaker 1: stay healthy. Well, see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right

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Speaker 1: here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and the DMV

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Speaker 1: on fourteen fifty WOL