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Speaker 1: On December twenty first, at two pm Eastern Standard time,

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Speaker 1: we will be reviewing James Cameron's latest release, Avatar, Fire

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Speaker 1: and Ash. As the Avatar series asks its third installment,

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Speaker 1: we would discuss the film itself and if it needs

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Speaker 1: to continue. This will be our final live show of

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Speaker 1: That's December twenty first, at two pm Eastern Standard Time

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Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel YouTube dot com FPS podcast.

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Speaker 2: The Frames per Second Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Frames per Second Podcast, as we are

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Speaker 3: reviewing Wake Up the dead Man, the third film in

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Speaker 3: the Knives Out series, which I've not seen the other

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Speaker 3: ones weich thankfull to. They standalons.

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Speaker 1: Damn no, no, no, I mean Robben shooting everybody today?

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Speaker 4: Man, that's not.

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Speaker 3: So joining me, I have Ken, Mike rod Man and

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Speaker 3: a special appearance by Miss Nay. How are you wonderful?

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Speaker 3: How are you fantastic? We're glad to have you here.

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Speaker 3: So I'll go around the room and all of y'all

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Speaker 3: seen this, this.

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Speaker 1: These yeah, okay, I'm familiar with these.

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Speaker 2: We reviewed all of them.

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Speaker 4: Did we review the first one?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we did the first Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: did all of them. We did the first one.

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Speaker 4: Because I know Ken and I had told Ken about it.

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Speaker 2: I was like one of your best of lists.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if we reviewed him, though.

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Speaker 2: I went back and watched it, watched most of the

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Speaker 2: stuff that was on your best do list. I liked

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Speaker 2: that cute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sweet, did you think where you're watching them?

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Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 1: I want you to take your knife out?

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Speaker 4: Stupid?

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Speaker 1: Really have expected that? No, I did not expect you

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Speaker 1: to go there if I ever remember.

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Speaker 5: Sure Jesus, So, Mike, what did you think about this movie?

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Speaker 1: And get this ship the funk out of here? This

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Speaker 1: boring ass movie? Oh my god, y'all. Oh this ship

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Speaker 1: was so fucking boring.

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Speaker 4: Did you like any of the other two?

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Speaker 1: No, none of them.

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Speaker 2: No, Oh, this was so boring.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even give a funk who killed that dude?

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Speaker 2: Man? Not at all.

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Speaker 1: They did get me though, with the swap. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that. You guess a good point. Ken. Did you

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Speaker 1: like this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I enjoyed this serious. You know, I'm sitting there

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out who did what? But the thing

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Speaker 2: with these things is they never give you everything, so

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Speaker 2: you'll never figure it out who did it, And if

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Speaker 2: you guess who did it, you'll never know how they

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, just like I love the series.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I like how they It reminds me of

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Speaker 6: White Lotus, how they changed the cast up every movie

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Speaker 6: because they don't have the same cast. Okay, only one

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Speaker 6: that returns is the detective. Detective so yeah that's Daniel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he does a really good job.

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Speaker 3: Why is he gay?

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Speaker 1: They don't do anything with it.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember if I meant to go back and

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Speaker 2: Don't a movie a movie.

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Speaker 7: He was like, are you it doesn't have to go anywhere?

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Speaker 1: All of these women around?

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Speaker 1: Why would you be all these women? Jesus No. I

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of it. It seemed weird.

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Speaker 2: Didn't land. But it could.

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Speaker 1: That could be part of his beliefs. But we shouldn't

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Speaker 3: No, I see what you're trying to do to my review.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to do like, ra do you.

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Speaker 1: Worry about you doing what you think of this movie.

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Speaker 7: It fell right in line with them. I liked the

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Speaker 7: I didn't really care. Yeah, it was it was.

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Speaker 7: I don't remember what it was that Glen Glenn Close

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what had me cracking up. But other than that,

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Speaker 7: I mean the movie was okay. It wasn't bad. It

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Speaker 3: It's a good murder mystery. I like the little tropes

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Speaker 1: Mean she was just acting like Carry Washington.

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Speaker 4: It's like her. It's just it's the same.

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Speaker 1: She just uses it wrong. How she used her own

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Speaker 1: I can't explain it. She just be using it wrong.

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Speaker 7: And the thing is like she's always like her face

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Speaker 7: Then it's like it's ozimpic face. It's like her face

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Speaker 4: Just when she's acting. It just I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We start this movie with Father Judd Duplicity, a former

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Speaker 3: He gets into it with the rude deacon punches him

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Speaker 7: I felt like I was duped mm hmm, because when

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Speaker 1: I was like, Jeffrey Right in this movie, sweat God.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. Jeffrey Right wasn't here the whole time,

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Speaker 2: he was just he just opened and closed the move.

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Speaker 2: It was just more cheap inclusion. But but I thought,

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Speaker 1: But aren't they Catholic. Catholics are always like that.

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Speaker 2: Though they cursed like that, Yeah, drink all that really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think it was a big deal because

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Speaker 1: I always see them doing that ship smoking cigarettes at

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Speaker 7: Everybody got their vices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could see the would be enough of

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Speaker 1: I think they just can't fuck. That's that's what gets

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Speaker 1: the nuns. You remember all those stories about the nuns

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Speaker 1: having babies and bearing them in the walls and ship

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Speaker 1: I don't know stories. Yeah, because they were ashamed because

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Speaker 1: didn't want people to find out that they were ever pregnant.

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Speaker 7: con what was it called convent?

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Speaker 1: They were like, and where.

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Speaker 1: We didn't? People perceive you digging?

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Speaker 3: So after he punched his deacon in the face, he

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Speaker 6: And I don't know if you I know, you haven't

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Speaker 4: At that point, I'm like, Okay, yeah, he's.

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Speaker 3: Did y'all like my senior character?

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Speaker 7: Middle like like is it like admirable?

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Speaker 6: So this is my way of giving them the armor

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't know it was bullshiting just to get

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but y'all remember when he when he when he

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Speaker 6: He's like, that's what you should like. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I didn't buy it.

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Speaker 7: I didn't buy it. I thought he was just doing

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Speaker 7: But what I'm saying is, I don't think he believed

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was clever

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Speaker 6: I thought I was interested seeing Hawkeye and here also

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Speaker 4: He was the only guy the same thing.

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Speaker 2: We saw Hawkeye?

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Speaker 1: And what was the other person see, I said, Mike,

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Speaker 2: The TV show that he had, I don't know it

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Speaker 6: Oh yea yeah out now, yeah it's called Mary Kingstown.

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Speaker 1: He did he kills it. I saw that. You see

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Speaker 4: Yea, every time?

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Speaker 7: I know each other, well, like, sorry, guys.

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Speaker 4: But I thought that was interesting. Who else?

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Speaker 6: They were probably the most interesting ones outside of the

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Speaker 7: I think this is where they lost me. I was

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Speaker 7: to question who did it? And I think that's where

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Speaker 1: It didn't feel like who did it at first.

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Speaker 7: It's opposed to it's nives out.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 6: I know that, and I think that I feel you

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Speaker 6: what I was gonna say, that's what it is, that's

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Speaker 6: I can understand why you feel that way, because it

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Speaker 7: She thought she always thought it was like her dad.

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Speaker 7: I immediately knew something Martha was up. Something was her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the pointed it. Well, he just didn't

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Speaker 2: It sounds like he was just paranoid. Yeah, yeah, he

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Speaker 2: So he just became kind of funny.

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Speaker 3: What are you supposed to be, like a conspiracy theorist

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, none of these people.

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Speaker 3: So after that montage, we learned as the priest tries

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Speaker 6: I like the scene of it, Like I like the

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Speaker 2: I was like, she was beat that little kid as.

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Speaker 2: Now I thought it was it was It was actually

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Speaker 1: That was interesting.

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Speaker 2: I didn't care enough about this.

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Speaker 1: No this the dumb chair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, part where it's warms up and John was

451
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Speaker 2: talking Judd in the movie and uh yeah, whenever ben

452
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: Wall was talking before he came When he came on,

453
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 2: it was like you could just see it just shift,

454
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: and then when Judge started talking, it started right back up.

455
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 2: It was really dope, and towards.

456
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Speaker 7: The end it was dope mm hmm. But hindsight, it

457
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 7: felt very on the nose mm hmmm, because it's like

458
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 7: Pastor Judd is, like I said, supposed to be. He

459
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 7: seemed like to be the one person who was sincerely

460
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 7: tapped into the spirituality and not actually meaning what he said.

461
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 7: So it's almost like they were trying to get Jesus

462
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 7: in the room when he was talking. So it's like

463
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 7: when he did it, like in the moment, it was like, oh, okay,

464
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 7: that's cool. But then when I think back on it,

465
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 7: I was like, that's very on the nose.

466
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Speaker 1: Hmmm, that makes sense.

467
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Speaker 3: What did you guys think about the confessions that he

468
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 3: was doing with Judd?

469
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: He didn't want to shake his hand, would you know.

470
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 7: You said you just did that this morning?

471
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: That ship was funny, bro, you'd be okay, like you

472
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: you imagine he's washed his hands since then and what

473
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: you would hope and it's like catholic colme, it's probably

474
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: not super dirt.

475
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 2: Wow.

476
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't even know what to say that.

477
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 2: So so the question I have.

478
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: Is, was just fucking with it he established because later

479
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 1: operation where.

480
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 2: You can't even that's right, that's right, that's right.

481
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: That's so why was he with him? Like did he

482
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: think he just tested it?

483
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: Didn't like he liked his ass, like he was trying

484
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: to intimidate him.

485
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 3: He came about to take his church, he thought, right, yeah.

486
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 6: So he was just like, yeah, busting his balls the

487
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 6: whole time. Yeah, but I ain't know is crazy.

488
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 3: So after after all of the confessions or whatever, he did.

489
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: He finally called him out on him and he called

490
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Speaker 3: out his preaching style. That's when he beat him up.

491
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: Like what you were talking about?

492
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: Rod? What y'all think about that?

493
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 7: Can we go back? Has have we met Martha and

494
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 7: Samson at this point? Is Martha a nun? Because she's

495
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 7: not supposed to be sucking?

496
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: Is she?

497
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Speaker 1: Which was Martha? I don't think she was just working.

498
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 7: Okay, because when he's left on the ass, I'm like,

499
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 7: wait a minute, what is going on? Right? But I'm

500
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 7: like like, oh, but we're just all out with it,

501
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 7: Like I don't understand.

502
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 4: I don't think that was all out. He's just so

503
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: having to see it okay.

504
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 7: But he was like, my sweet Martha, I would do

505
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 7: so it's clear that they're in a relationship, and so

506
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 7: I just I didn't understand it at this point. I

507
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 7: didn't understand the dynamics that.

508
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 2: Was going on.

509
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's all.

510
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: Well. I think the because he had this was when

511
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: he was talking about mon SoRs style and he was

512
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: up there just intentionally going.

513
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: At groups trying to get a walk out.

514
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he was driving trying to drive home a wedge.

515
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: It's almost like he was trying to drive all of

516
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: them out, but the ones that stayed were I guess

517
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: as he was presenting is like, you know, these are

518
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: the ones that are heard and they're tough. But the

519
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: way I look at it was like, Bro, he really

520
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: don't want to do this, which is why he's trying

521
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: to get people out of the room so he don't

522
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: have to do it. And he's being deliberate in some

523
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: of the messaging that he's saying, because you know, he

524
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: just over this ship, so.

525
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 3: To jump a little bit ahead. He You think he

526
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 3: was preaching that way because he had the jewel.

527
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: He didn't have it then, Yeah, he didn't have it.

528
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 4: I think it was the whole time later.

529
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: I think he was just over the ship. Bro. Yeah,

530
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: that's why he was the gay. They got up and

531
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 2: left the mom and then yeah, single mother got up left. Bro,

532
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: he was going and he was looking right at him.

533
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: He didn't understand this part at all. Why was he

534
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: trying to drive all of them out when you say

535
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: he didn't want to do it anymore? I don't get it,

536
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: because like Catholics will just yank your ship out and

537
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: then send somebody else over there.

538
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: If you're doing a bad job? So why was he

539
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: trying to They if I remember, for actually Jeffrey Wright

540
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: knew he was doing a bad job because they said

541
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: he I forgot.

542
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: He said.

543
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: He was intentionally doing a bad job. Yeah, so that's

544
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Why was he intentionally doing a bad job?

545
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 7: That's what I didn't understand either.

546
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he wanted to. I don't think he

547
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: wanted to preach anymore. Then why didn't he just step down?

548
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

549
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that he wanted to get kicked out,

550
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: and I thought that he always had the jewel.

551
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 7: I don't but none of that, All of that seemed

552
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 7: to be completely contradictory to what it was that it

553
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 7: seemed like he wanted. I really didn't understand what his

554
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 7: issue was because I thought that he wanted Yeah, I

555
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 7: thought that he wanted people in the church, and he

556
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 7: wanted people to he wanted the power that came with

557
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 7: being a pastor. But you're going about it by like

558
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 7: you are you trying to get people that you know

559
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 7: you can insult and they'll still stick around. I just

560
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 7: didn't understand.

561
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: I was the same.

562
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: You think he's only one of a certain group of

563
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: people Yeah, he only wanted a certain kind of person

564
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: to be no single mothers, no whatever whatever.

565
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, like he wanted a certain type of follower.

566
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 6: And he's like, if they if they follow my my

567
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 6: preachings or whatever, that that will be they'll be so committed,

568
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 6: like they'll do anything for me.

569
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 4: I got so so yeah, it started like that or whatnot.

570
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 6: So it changed once he got the information about the diamond,

571
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 6: because now he's just like, well, I don't need this

572
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 6: it anyway, you know what I'm saying, All y'all can go,

573
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 6: because I'm gonna be well off with the diamond.

574
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: So he knew about the diamond when he was telling you,

575
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: like the right, that's what I thought he didn't know yet.

576
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: So okay, So even if he was, what you say,

577
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: party you confused about all of it. Still, So if

578
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: he was, if he was intentionally kicking those people out

579
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: prior to knowing about the diamond, it kind of showed

580
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: that there was barely anybody left in his church. So

581
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: my point is, if he wants the power, which he's

582
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: kind of saying he does, he wants this power, he

583
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 1: wants this respect by fear, whatever you want to call it.

584
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: The way I understand Catholics is they will yank your

585
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: ass out of there and just move you to a

586
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: different church if you're doing that bad a job. So

587
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: I'm confused about why he was why he was trying

588
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: to reduce his church down to like five people.

589
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 6: I guess they didn't want it to be a hostel takeover.

590
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 6: I guess that's what what he while he sent Jude

591
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 6: and Judd down there to see what was going on

592
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 6: and get him out of here or whatever. So I

593
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 6: guess they wanted to be like a smoother transition, because

594
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 6: that's essentially what he came down there for.

595
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: Right, right, right, So I get why they sent Judd.

596
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: I just don't get why Mon Senior was doing what

597
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: he was doing because I think he again, I think

598
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: he wants a certain type of follower, So you don't

599
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: five people in his church.

600
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: No, no, No, I don't think he wants just five people.

601
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 6: I think he's like, if they can't take the heat

602
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 6: of him going at them, they're not They're not the

603
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 6: type of type of congregation he wants.

604
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: But doing what he did.

605
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: The opportunity to get you're not going to get people.

606
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: There, right, That's the thing. Like there was a scene

607
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: where I think it was when the gay couple walked

608
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: out and it showed how many people were left in

609
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: the church, and it was very few. It was just

610
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So if he was intentionally doing that,

611
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand why, because you only have like ten

612
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: people there, so it's like, how do you expect to

613
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: get new people that you can I don't know. It

614
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: just seems weird.

615
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 2: No, I feel you.

616
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: But yeah, Well, speaking of the loyalty to Monsieur, Judd

617
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: tries to have a Bible study meeting. The whole congregation

618
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: is paranoid on whether they told he told Jude told

619
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: Monsieur or not.

620
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Speaker 6: Did y'all like this? I did like this. It's like,

621
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,239
Speaker 6: so he not coming? Does he know about it? So

622
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 6: you haven't told him? And he respects and he responded

623
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 6: the way that you would expect him respond by this

624
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 6: time of the movie, Ken, did you take anything from this?

625
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: You know?

626
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was doing so I get it, but he

627
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: I get why he was doing it because he was concerned.

628
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: But also these people, after hearing the way he was

629
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: preaching and they're still around, have express loyalty to this guy.

630
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: So to try to go behind his back to do this.

631
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: He should have known that wasn't gonna go well.

632
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 7: Trying to watch this part three times, I fell asleep.

633
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 7: I fell asleep for like ten minutes each time I'm watching.

634
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 7: It was during this.

635
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Speaker 3: So Mantier has a meeting that Joe walks in on

647
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: and when he walks in he throws a Bible. But

648
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: when he walks in he did here we don't know

649
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: the whole conversation yet. You said this is the part

650
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: to woke you up. Then what did you like about it?

651
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 7: I liked it. I just this is why I wake up.

652
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 7: But it was I mean, it was funny him throwing

653
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Speaker 7: the Bible at him.

654
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: That's all, Rod, what'd you think?

655
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Speaker 2: I thought?

656
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Speaker 6: This is interesting. You know they have they're having their

657
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 6: own meeting about him. Especially was revealed later what the

658
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 6: meeting was actually about, but it sounded like they were,

659
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 6: you know, talking shit about Judd or whatever, when essentially

660
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Speaker 6: that wasn't the case.

661
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Speaker 1: But yeah, in the moment, yeah, I liked I liked it.

662
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Speaker 3: I like what it do with it Later, Yeah, I

663
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: like the context that they gave it later. Can did

664
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Speaker 3: it work for you?

665
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, you know, I think and how they

666
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: were setting everything up, Yeah, I mean it was a misdirect,

667
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: but it also showed that Joe was willing to fight

668
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: for what they believed in, like you know, it's values

669
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and its attempt to save the

670
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: city of them from monseignor. So yeah, yeah, I thought

671
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: it worked all right.

672
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: So we get to the who done it part of it.

673
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: During a Good Friday service, Wick died suddenly in the

674
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: storage closet in Little pool Pit. He was stabbed in

675
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: the back with a knife took from the Devil's head lap.

676
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: Judd previously stole it from the bar we saw and

677
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: then through the church window the evidence is thrown.

678
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Well, he's killed.

679
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: Right there in the closet. What did y'all think? Who's

680
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: y'all think done it? Did you have any theories when

681
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: you first? Did you care?

682
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

683
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: I definitely had. At first, I was just like, damn,

684
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: how the hell that happened?

685
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, because it just seemed like impossible, right,

686
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 6: But then you started looking at the scene, and then

687
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 6: you started looking at the series of events.

688
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, when he when?

689
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 6: So Yeah, Unfortunately I kind of had an idea of

690
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 6: who did it?

691
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: Was that right?

692
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was right. Yeah.

693
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 6: I thought I thought it was Hawk guy because he

694
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 6: was the only one like, don't touch that, and he

695
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 6: walked over there, and then yeah, yeah, it was just

696
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 6: like it gotta be He's the only one that got

697
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 6: close to him outside the judge, so it has to

698
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 6: be him. Now, the part that I didn't know is

699
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 6: the is the Glenn close and her involvement in it all.

700
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 6: I didn't know how I didn't know that part because

701
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: I can't say that wasn't revealed. But the only part

702
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 6: that's revealed is we see uh ikeep calling them hawk

703
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 6: ey because I can't remember his name. Nick, yeah's doctor Nick.

704
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 6: We see him going there and tell him, like I said,

705
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 6: don't touch it, and I'm like, yeah, he's him, you.

706
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: Gotta be him.

707
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 7: Yeah see. And the only thing that I took from

708
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 7: it is that Glenn Close had something to do with

709
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 7: because the way she fell out on that cross like oh,

710
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 7: I got and I was like she some yeah.

711
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely suspected she because she was

712
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: just yeah, being too much.

713
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: They did some camera stuff, I feel like, to make

714
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: us think it was her, like they would linger on

715
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: her for a while show face.

716
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 7: Well.

717
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: There was also something else that happened, which we'll get to,

718
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, I thought that was interesting.

719
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: But the thing about doctor nat is that you know

720
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: you you you sit here, because it was like, wait,

721
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: how the fuck they kill him? Because that place is

722
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: completely sealed? So how did that happen? How he did it?

723
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: I know, I said I, but I asked myself. I

724
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: was like, well, that's stupid for you to sit here

725
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: and say, hey, don't touch anything, Yet you went in

726
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: there and touched it, Like it didn't make any sense

727
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: the directions he were given.

728
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: I'm a doctor, though I know you might miss something up.

729
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: That's how.

730
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: Right. It didn't make any sense. It didn't make any sense.

731
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: It was his destruction. But but nah, I still love

732
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: the miss three of it all was like yo, like

733
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: what in the hell and how in the hell did

734
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: any of this happen?

735
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: That's what I will say.

736
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 6: Even though I had my suspicions, I still didn't know

737
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 6: for sure. So it's still I think they did a

738
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 6: good job and still making me kind of second guess.

739
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: Okay, who did this?

740
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with the other movies how they go

741
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: did y'all any point in time? Because I did not

742
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: seeing him suspect that Judd might have do it.

743
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that they fucked up with this

744
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: film is they made it very obvious that Judd did

745
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: not know, and then they spent the rest of the

746
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: film with everybody blaming Judge.

747
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: It might have been.

748
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: Cooler if we started to doubt if Judd actually.

749
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: A little bit wow because he was the last one

750
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: to come out, because that was the only thing that

751
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: they showed him suspicion.

752
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: We hear him fall and then we see Judd walking there,

753
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: So we already knew that Judd didn't do it. But

754
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: that's why, right, well you know about the spiked drink

755
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: until way later.

756
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did. Dudes like they probably I didn't

757
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: know he drunk someone. I said, no, no way, he really

758
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: in his fucking detective vote oh Ken, what else? Starre

759
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: watching it? Because that's the movie going like how the

760
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: fuck did When they start to kind of walk through

761
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: different like scenarios, I'm like, how the fuck did they

762
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: do this? So as as it went on and they

763
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: started kind of revealed certain things, I said, the only

764
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: thing that makes sense is he was because I didn't

765
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: know he had a flask in there. I was like,

766
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: they had to have given him something prior to and

767
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: then by the time he walked in, he just fell

768
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: out and then somebody committed it then. But I still

769
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: was like clueless as to all of the x's and

770
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: o's of everything, but for him to fall out with

771
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: nothing being in there, I said, that was the only

772
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 2: thing that was left. So but I think they were

773
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: slick and saying that. I walked out later with everybody else,

774
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: we didn't know why. And then they, to your point,

775
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: they removed that from the equation. They were like, Okay,

776
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: he's not involved at all, but I'm with you. They

777
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: completely just like XD out, judge, Judd is not involved.

778
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: But what I liked what they did though, is that

779
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: everybody was outside when he fell out, so by the time,

780
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: so including just so you look at Jared, it was

781
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: not involved because but then you look and you see, well,

782
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: everybody's out there, So who the killed this man? If

783
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: everybody's outside of the area where he died.

784
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: I just kept as simming there was a trap door

785
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: or something, that's what.

786
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 4: And then they took that.

787
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: That was like most of the movie.

788
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, let's go, where's the trap door?

789
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would have been too easy.

790
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: Damn speaking of trapdoors.

791
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: Your simple, but you didn't write it.

792
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: So after this happens, the police chief Geraldine Scott. They

793
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: suspect Judd, as we've been saying, but Jeredine Scott brings

794
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: him private detective benuoit Blanc. Whah, all right, he comes

795
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: in to investigate the death and he has Judd assist him.

796
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: Was it strange to y'all.

797
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 6: No, because that's kind of how he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

798
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 6: this is how he is in each movie and he

799
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 6: does a good job to.

800
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 2: Me for me. Yeah, and I think he even spelled

801
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 2: out the reasons why he decided to work for him,

802
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: you know, because he was like, yeah, you're your guilt

803
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: is a different type of guilt. So I know you're

804
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: not involved. You ain't do this shit, but you can

805
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: help me find out who did it. So Block says,

806
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: this is the perfect murder. He quotes a book, The

807
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: Invincible Man says it has all the plots and themes

808
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: of it. And he also has the summer reading church.

809
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 3: List, which was basically, he said, a syllabus to commit

810
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: this murder, which is interesting to you at all. No,

811
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: I ain't half the damn books anyway. So I was like, okay,

812
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: I believe you, mister Daniel Craig. But other than that, all.

813
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 7: Right, See at this point, I appreciate y'all's enthusiasm, but

814
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 7: I don't really care who killed.

815
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 3: Him, right, like, and what got you out of it?

816
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 7: Like I said, I think the cat like the characters like,

817
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 7: I don't care. I don't I don't care about anybody's motives,

818
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 7: like they didn't make this person my senior. Although Josh

819
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 7: Brolin's a great actor, I didn't feel attached to this

820
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 7: character at all enough to care. There was nothing about

821
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 7: anything he was doing that made me happy, Like I don't.

822
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 7: I was indifferent about his death. There was nothing attached

823
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 7: to his death that I knew anybody was gonna get

824
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 7: until later on and we please hear about the diamond.

825
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 7: There's nothing about this death that makes me care who

826
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 7: died who did it? So, and then there's nothing about

827
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 7: the characters that you've introduced to me to make me

828
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 7: invested in whether or not they killed him. So I

829
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 7: feel like there, like I said, the introduction of the

830
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 7: character has killed it for me, and I'm still I'm

831
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 7: I'm they never get me back.

832
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to get behind caring about who killed a

833
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: bad guy, and especially like if everybody else is bland

834
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, I'm really don't care who killed

835
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: the bad guy. It's like, what difference does it mean.

836
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 7: Unless somebody has something to gain from his unless all

837
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 7: these characters had something to gain from his death that

838
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 7: I wanted them to get, right, But there's nothing attached

839
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 7: to his death to make me really give any care.

840
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even when they do finally reveal, it was

841
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: still just like, really, that's it.

842
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: That's dumb.

843
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 7: The diamond or stone, diamond, brother Son, the like. None

844
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 7: of this, none of this meant anything to the characters

845
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 7: to me, and none of this meant anything about this

846
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 7: broader theme of spirituality in God or anything. None of

847
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 7: that was linked in it to me, So I didn't

848
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 7: The story is really weak to me, ken what you think.

849
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: For me, it's less about the stories of the characters.

850
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: It's more about me actively trying to solve.

851
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: I can see that that's probably fun trying to figure

852
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: it out, but it wasn't fun for me because it

853
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: was just like care, I just I didn't care, and

854
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: I just found a lot of the dialogue boring. So

855
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: it was just like this felt a little tarantino ish

856
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: and the fact that it's like brother, there's so much

857
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: dialogue here, and I don't give a fuck about nothing

858
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: yeall are saying.

859
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: I thought the son did it. It just seemed weird

860
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: to me, And it just.

861
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: I never thought it was him. That's the I think

862
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: that would have been too easy because he was probably

863
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: he was probably would have been the one that everyone

864
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: assumed it was because he was kind of an asshole

865
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: and black. Well yeah, logic.

866
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 3: Ish, Well, I say, the son that they during their investigation, Uh,

867
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: they do figure out that the brother son that we've

868
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: been calling him, he's actually son of mine. Singor did

869
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: this reveal do anything for you? Was just did they

870
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 3: hit for you?

871
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: Ron? No? No, I don't think that revealed.

872
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: But that also led to the conversation that he had

873
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: that he walked in or did you walked in earlier?

874
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: That was more interesting.

875
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: Okay, So now to the part where he's found out

876
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: he has a diamond by this point, right, because he's

877
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: talking crazy to them trying to get through the league.

878
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: He got the diamond by this point, and he's telling them,

879
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: i'mona exposed all y'all, bitch I got I got profiles

880
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: on all you.

881
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: So now all of them have a motive.

882
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: Did this make it any more interesting to you, Mike

883
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: than now that everybody has a motive to kill him

884
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: because he's threatened to expose him.

885
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: Not at all, because they've already established that he's a dicky.

886
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: So this scene didn't add or take away anything as

887
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: far as someone having a motive. Even if they took

888
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: this scene out, it was just like they don't like

889
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: him because he's a fucking dick. But of course they

890
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: who liked him, they just dealt with him. They didn't

891
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: like him at least I didn't think that they.

892
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: Were loyal to him.

893
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: That don't you like somebody does not like him.

894
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 6: No, no, no, it doesn't mean that, but but it does

895
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 6: showed like, okay, well they're not to be loyal anymore.

896
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 7: Well, this is the The semi interesting thing about the

897
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 7: story to me was just how it was all. It

898
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 7: was all transactional relationships in there, right, everybody wanted something

899
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 7: from my Senior, and Manya Senior wanted them to want him,

900
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 7: want something from him. So you got the girl in

901
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 7: the wheelchair who's tried to buy her healing. Now Vera

902
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 7: is there simply because it was obligation put on her

903
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 7: from her father. But you have the hypocrisy between what

904
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 7: he's called his the Harlot whore, and what he's done.

905
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 7: And so it's like there was a lot that was

906
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 7: revealed in there, but none of it seemed to stick.

907
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: It didn't really go anywhere. I think it was just like, Okay,

908
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: let's give everybody a motive so we can get to

909
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: the next part of the story.

910
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 6: He really didn't even have Wolf Glenn close though he

911
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 6: slipped over her and the sign he did yeah you did.

912
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well he didn't say any thing for her. I

913
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: was like, oh he said, I was he say anything

914
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 2: for her? So that's interesting. So that's when she moved

915
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 2: up the list.

916
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 7: For me, I was like, she was the only one

917
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 7: who was like blindly faithful to him. There was nothing

918
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 7: that she was getting, Like she'd been there since she

919
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 7: was a kid. So I was waiting for them to

920
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 7: like kind of give us some sort of like understanding

921
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 7: of like why she's stuck around for as long as

922
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 7: she has and why she's done everything in the church.

923
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 7: But she was the only one out of all of

924
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 7: them who just like blindly was following him without any

925
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 7: any any expectation of anything.

926
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: And this was right around the time where I was like,

927
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: oh he it for me. It felt like more confirmation

928
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: that he didn't really want to do this ship at all,

929
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: because soon he got a way out with the money,

930
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: he was like, well, fuck all this shit, I'm out

931
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: of here. So and yeah, and then that's when side

932
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you need to burn everybody on your

933
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: way out.

934
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: His son was a piece of shit. He gave me advice,

935
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: yeah and everything.

936
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 4: When he said I'll probably post it anywhere.

937
00:43:59,040 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: Recordings.

938
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 3: So what happens during their investigation, Judd eventually gets tired

939
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: of the ship from blank, we can't figure this out,

940
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: We're not gonna do it, storms off into the rainy night,

941
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: and sees sees him come out of the mausoleum as

942
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: if he's being resurrected by.

943
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: I perked up. Then, boy, Jesus bro I was like

944
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: this delight said he didn't get y'all for a hot set.

945
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: I did wonder. I wondered how he did.

946
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: I was like, he gotta be so he in on it.

947
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. That's what I thought too. I

948
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, either he came back to life or

949
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: he wasn't really dead.

950
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 7: That's what I figured. He faked his death. Yeah, they

951
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 7: gave him some medication or something to make it it

952
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 7: seem like his heart stopped or something.

953
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: He did.

954
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 7: Jesus had a bunch of shake.

955
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: That money.

956
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: They would have had to pay off everybody in involved

957
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: in this, the whole town.

958
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: That's why I thought he came back to life.

959
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 7: So the hell what you thought he really was Jesus?

960
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he was Jesus, but he was

961
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: Jesus is like, where they taking this?

962
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

963
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: I was like, where are they going with this? He's

964
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: back to life, remember.

965
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: Right.

966
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 3: I got confused, to be honest with you, and I

967
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: think I'm still so the who was in the mausoleum?

968
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: That was? That was the groundskeeper guy.

969
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't show facing. Okay, they show.

970
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: They had to spell it out.

971
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 6: For me too, but I mean somewhere and I was like, wait,

972
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 6: what's happening there?

973
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: So that was the real body. It was in the mausoleum,

974
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: It was in.

975
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: The office, a part of it.

976
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I told you so.

977
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: None of that way, Mike. I think they did a

978
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: good job of sound doubt. But at the same time,

979
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: I was like, I refuse to believe this ship that

980
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 2: they're trying to tell me. Because I saw a dead

981
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: body and I saw them flip that dead body over

982
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: in pink.

983
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: I said, there's no way in hell that man is

984
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: still alive. I thought maybe he had a twin or something.

985
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: I never thought it was the groundskeeper guy. I thought

986
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: it was either him. I thought that the store was

987
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a little more interesting than it was, just

988
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: like some dude.

989
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was a groundskeeper guy. But I

990
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: was like, I know it ain't him. It was it

991
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: wasn't him.

992
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past into the house. How what

993
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: how did his body get to the doctorhouse? They man?

994
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 7: So doctor Nick killed? Wait a minute, how did he

995
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 7: get to the doctor.

996
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: The pancake?

997
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: That was what was then?

998
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with him.

999
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: I thought they showed him. You can't take a dead

1000
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: body out the more.

1001
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no. So it was after the door,

1002
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 6: so they put him. They showed a clip where they

1003
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 6: put Monster Senior under the coffin. So nobody at first,

1004
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 6: like while the other guy came out, and I think

1005
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 6: they got him at some point.

1006
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 2: I don't think they've.

1007
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: Shown Okay, okay, they did show that because he was

1008
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: making a wooden coffin.

1009
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 7: Thank you, because I was.

1010
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: Like something was missing for me, and I was like,

1011
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: I did not she had this happen, all right?

1012
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 4: We saw how she got his hand down the stairs.

1013
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: Oh that was.

1014
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 7: That was on the side.

1015
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, a big guy, all right, So the whole thing happened.

1016
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: Blunk stopped Judd from turning himself in and then he

1017
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 3: noticed something missing from the bar.

1018
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: They go to the bar.

1019
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: He do the picture thing, bar picture thing, did y'all

1020
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 3: get anything from that's what.

1021
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 4: You watch again?

1022
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: It just gave gave me.

1023
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: Okay, it's probably the doctor.

1024
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: This is the point, you know, is the doctor with

1025
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: the bad sitting there and they talking to him hiding

1026
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: in the back.

1027
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's.

1028
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 6: Just too much, y'all. Y'all gave too much. Y'all, Like

1029
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 6: might say, y'all showed y'all hand.

1030
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: Mike said that this movie was about forty minutes too long.

1031
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 7: You could have took a good hour out of this.

1032
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 3: It was about it was like, it was a good

1033
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: forty minute stretch. It's like, bro, come on, like y'all dragging,

1034
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: y'all dragged.

1035
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: Y'all was just sleepy.

1036
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't so the Doubles didn't like it.

1037
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the.

1038
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: Two devilheads and all that, and him showing the picture

1039
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: and all this. It was like, bro, this is this

1040
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: would need to be a much more interesting murder for

1041
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: me to care about these pictures and ship interesting. I

1042
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: thought it was so blocking. Judd figured out.

1043
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: They go to the doctor's house and they find his

1044
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 3: corpse dissolving in a tub of acid alongside Wick's body.

1045
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: I still don't get this.

1046
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: What you mean, so I know Glenn Close obviously put

1047
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: him or set him up like that, but for what.

1048
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 7: So because he had the diamond, she knew he had

1049
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 7: the diamond, right, so she was trying. She knew that

1050
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 7: he was going to try to kill her eventually, right

1051
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 7: because her and Samson were the only ones who knew

1052
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 7: about the diamond. So ultimately he wasn't going to kill her.

1053
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: It's about Nick. Yeah, Yeah, I knew why she killed Nick.

1054
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I didn't understand why she set

1055
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: the body of Monsignor up like he was choking Nick

1056
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: and then put the acid in there.

1057
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: That hard lost me.

1058
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: She wants to seem like he actually did come back

1059
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: to life. I got that too, but she was trying

1060
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: to make it seem like he rose from the dead,

1061
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: came back down there, killed Hawkeye, and then somehow turned

1062
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: the acid on himself and dissolved his own arms. Like

1063
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: I was so confused.

1064
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: You're starting to ask logical questions.

1065
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that wrong in this Yes, it seems like

1066
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: that that detective would have pointed that out though, like.

1067
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: About Yes, as thorough as Blanc was, he would have

1068
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: been like what Mike said, like, well, how the fuck,

1069
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: why would he stick his hands right?

1070
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: He didn't believe it?

1071
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why would Glenn Close think that that made sense?

1072
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: It's really where I was stopping at. Oh, well they're

1073
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: not that smart. Well yeah, there's that, but I can

1074
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: see somebody that doesn't, that has never committed the crime before,

1075
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: not thinking that all the way through.

1076
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: But who then? Who turned the acid on? Why wouldn't mind.

1077
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: Eaten by acid?

1078
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 7: Like would that actually kill you? Would stop your heart?

1079
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: Or you just well pull.

1080
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: Your arms back?

1081
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the whole you know, I guess, as they

1082
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 2: said later, the whole idea was when she was explaining,

1083
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: was he was supposed to rise and die again, so

1084
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 2: then that was supposed to be him. Just now why

1085
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 2: she would think that?

1086
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 7: So he just assented to heaven at this point?

1087
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 2: This is this is what was the motive for him

1088
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: coming back to kill doctor Nick. I don't know, I

1089
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: don't know why that was. I think for me, the

1090
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: part that I was questioned thing was how did you

1091
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: know the switch to coffees?

1092
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 4: She said, But I don't Knowmber what she said?

1093
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he never.

1094
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 2: Gave a hint until he sat down and she started saying.

1095
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: She said she suspected she even got there, right, she

1096
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: said she thought he was going to try to kill

1097
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: her anyway, right.

1098
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 7: So if I know you're gonna kill me, I'm not

1099
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 7: gonna drink anything you give you.

1100
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: And they already played the trick with mon Signior with

1101
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,959
Speaker 1: the coffee or with the with the flask, so maybe

1102
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: she just assumed he would do the same trick.

1103
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: So she just guessed.

1104
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: I guess.

1105
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: I guess she was just like, I'm not going to

1106
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: take it. The chances that I'm not going to take it.

1107
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: The chances move, but then I'm gonna throw you in

1108
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: this acid thing. I just don't I don't understand with

1109
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: The following.

1110
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 3: Morning, the police and the congregation convened the church for

1111
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: judge confession, only for Blant to explain how it was

1112
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: that that killed Wicks. Well, actually he didn't tell him

1113
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: who did it? Did he don't remember?

1114
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 7: Well he told him he said he can't solve it

1115
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 7: or something he.

1116
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 2: Didn't want to opted something like that.

1117
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: Like that. That was funny, everybody, Yeah, that ship was funny.

1118
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 3: So him going through the whole spiel talking about how

1119
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: the murder went and then saying, but I can't tell y'all.

1120
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: I was like man, this is fucking stupid ass movie.

1121
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 6: Oh no, I did, because it was like it was

1122
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 6: like a full circle moment, like like allowing her to

1123
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 6: confess her sins and be be.

1124
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: And be resolved.

1125
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: But that was dumb too, wasn't it, Because why would

1126
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: she tell the the dude that, why would she actually

1127
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: admit that she knew about anything? Because like she told

1128
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: on herself, but she hadn't told on herself that none

1129
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: of this, no one would have ever traced anything back

1130
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: to her.

1131
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: Right.

1132
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 6: But she was done with that part. She was just like,

1133
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 6: you know what I need. I need to tell the truth.

1134
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1135
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 6: She wanted to really come off as a woman of God.

1136
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, she took before that because she gave she gave

1137
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: a confession.

1138
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a confession of that. Yeah, that was

1139
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 6: a confession about the diamond.

1140
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: Right, Why would she even do that? That didn't make

1141
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: any sense to me because he challenged her, Yeah, reason

1142
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: to do it? That's stupid.

1143
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: He was challenging her faith. He would challenge her faith.

1144
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 3: He was like, you can't go in there and tell

1145
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: the truth. You're not that faithful to God.

1146
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and so yeah, yeah, yeah, this was a

1147
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: big bucket of bugs.

1148
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 7: And I can't remember does she take the stuff?

1149
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: Like?

1150
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 7: Does she kill herself? So I know I'm finna die.

1151
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 7: Let me tell you all I did so I can

1152
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 7: go to heaven.

1153
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Crazy, So you just kill somebody and now you

1154
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: get to get out of hell free guard. Isn't that

1155
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: the way it works? I know? But it's just like

1156
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: I didn't like this part. Is like, Okay, well she's

1157
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: gonna get a free pass.

1158
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: Like she still she still died.

1159
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 6: She thought she was doing it for good reason though,

1160
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 6: but realized she did it with hatred.

1161
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 3: And what was she gonna do with the jewel? She

1162
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: was gonna said, she was gonna throw it away. Okay, Yeah,

1163
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 3: she didn't care about the jew that's the thing.

1164
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: She didn't want the.

1165
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 2: Even apple out.

1166
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, she just didn't want it to be you know,

1167
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 6: it was doing in the church, is what she said.

1168
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, playing back into the religious aspect of it, I

1169
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: guess Block who didn't believe in religion decided to give

1170
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: somebody that did an opportunity to get right with God.

1171
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: And that was another another time they used to like

1172
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: it very dramatically.

1173
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: This time I feel like it was didn't catch it

1174
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: this part was.

1175
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 3: The explanation was to it was too like, I didn't

1176
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: need recalling him going through it did her confession. I

1177
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: didn't need it was it was lasted like twenty minutes.

1178
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: It was confession.

1179
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 2: It was different from the other movie. So I'm okay

1180
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: with the switch up. Yes, I've seen the other one side.

1181
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm kind of well. I appreciate it, and I

1182
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 7: liked the spirituality aspect of it. I do felt like, again,

1183
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 7: this is a sign of a weak story if you

1184
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,479
Speaker 7: have to have somebody give all of this like this much.

1185
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: I pick up none of this during the whole movie. Yeah, yeah,

1186
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't look at it as a weak story.

1187
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 6: I just look at it like just a different way

1188
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 6: of telling the story, because I do like because they

1189
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 6: could have.

1190
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 7: Been telling it, not telling it the whole hour before.

1191
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: People do that all the time, but it's always bad.

1192
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: It's bad.

1193
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: But when you purposely deceived the audience versus letting us

1194
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: guess wrong.

1195
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: But they always Yeah, purposely deceiving an audience is okay,

1196
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 1: I think. But it was just this whole movie, there

1197
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: was zero that would have given us an indication of

1198
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: what happened. And that's another reason I didn't like this.

1199
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, all of this is completely fucking plausible,

1200
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: and then you had to explain it all because you

1201
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: knew it was implausible. You had to explain Glenn close

1202
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: part right, that was the main party because I have

1203
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: my dumb ass. I really did not think ever that

1204
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: she he planned for the guy to get up and

1205
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: fake resurrection all that ship. And it was just like

1206
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: man because she read some books.

1207
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, if they would have had enough to have been

1208
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 7: able to put half of what going close.

1209
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 6: Together though, he just gave her opportunity to explain it.

1210
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 7: I mean, but give me explained my perspective or my

1211
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 7: reasoning or why, but not the whole not her get

1212
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 7: like the whole story, Like just say this is why why.

1213
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 7: I felt like I needed to.

1214
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: Do the why versus that would have been more interesting.

1215
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 6: I liked this part because they do that, and they

1216
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 6: did that in the other two movies. This one he

1217
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 6: allowed her the opportunity to confess it, which still ruins

1218
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 6: his reputation.

1219
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: So it's like he he put his reputation on the line.

1220
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 6: By saying he couldn't solve it in order to allow

1221
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 6: her to confess her sins and That's what I liked

1222
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 6: about it, because you remember in the movie he was

1223
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 6: just like, oh man, this is the greatest case. If

1224
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 6: I saw this one, i'd be such and such. But

1225
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 6: he he was just like, you know what, what's more

1226
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 6: important is her relieving herself.

1227
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: Since that's pretty dumb.

1228
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 2: Too if he doesn't even believe in religion.

1229
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 7: No, but I do with him not believing in religion.

1230
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 7: But and I think that was to Pastor Judge like

1231
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 7: innocence and sincerity, like because he said, like, you are

1232
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,479
Speaker 7: a good pastor, because you even got me to buy

1233
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 7: into it. So I think that was kind of speaking

1234
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 7: to who Pastor Judd actually was to this congregation and

1235
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 7: like her at the insaying you really are a good

1236
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 7: pastor or whatever. So I felt I did feel that aspect.

1237
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 7: I just felt like it was too long to.

1238
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: Those I just meant more so it was I thought

1239
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: it was stupid that he would put his reputation on

1240
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: the line for this woman that he doesn't know and

1241
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: for her to get right with God.

1242
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: It just seems really stupid.

1243
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you just keep your reputation and say, hey,

1244
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: I've solved it.

1245
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: I know what happened, and here.

1246
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: It is especially when in God. Anyway, That's what I'm saying.

1247
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: He didn't believe it anyway. So it's like what because

1248
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: he really like he liked Judd, but that it only

1249
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: helped Glenn Close.

1250
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 7: But but because of that Judd the confession, jud had

1251
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 7: to take the confession, not.

1252
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: Him, And maybe he saw how Judd handled the lady

1253
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: earlier the Who's a Mom died. Yeah.

1254
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: I feel like he thought that Judd was losing faith

1255
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: in his religion, so he wanted to help him, reassure

1256
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: him to do what he's doing.

1257
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 6: This is he said. He said, That's what I'm saying.

1258
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 6: Going through He's like, do what you do.

1259
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: Care about the person he just met.

1260
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: This motherfucker. You're trying to solve a crime. Really, but

1261
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: he saw it.

1262
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: That's he saw him losing his faith and he was like, well,

1263
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: he wanted to take.

1264
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 6: The case because he saw it, and he was like, man,

1265
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 6: this is an innocent man. Let me let me save this.

1266
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: Maybe that's not what I'm questioning him solving the case.

1267
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: I get that part. It was the end the way

1268
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: he was just like, Okay, I don't know what's going on,

1269
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: Glenn Close, go give all of your details to him

1270
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: because I think he's losing his faith. That just seems dumb.

1271
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: Trying to He did say the mask.

1272
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 7: He's having a glimmer of he's actually starting to believe

1273
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 7: in the faith, Like his faith is actually changing through

1274
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 7: all of this, which is why.

1275
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 4: Yes, he says it.

1276
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: That makes me this like way more want to get

1277
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: God from this. This is what made me.

1278
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: Remember he walked out and he was like, nood, I'm good,

1279
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: got it.

1280
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: It's just good you know that Ryan Johnson can't do

1281
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: ship right, including Star Wars. It's just good to know

1282
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: that this motherfucker Star Wars. This one was just I

1283
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I think you want to.

1284
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 7: Ask her for the last.

1285
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: So I'm in the middle. I am with with a

1286
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: lot of what you guys are feeling, uh Nay and Mike,

1287
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: But I am with Rod and that I get why

1288
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: he did. He just wanted to switch it up because

1289
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: the previous two movies, Yeah, that's what he did. Block

1290
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: explained everything. So he just wanted to do something different.

1291
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. I'm gonna do

1292
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: something different, Becau because the last two movies were derivative.

1293
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: Makes sense. But if you're looking at this from a

1294
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: story aspect, it doesn't make any sense. It just makes

1295
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: sense from a Oh I'm a movie maker and I

1296
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: want to do something different, but it's like, how about

1297
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: you write it better? So it makes sense why you

1298
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: did it different.

1299
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 6: I feel like he showed infinity for Judd, even when

1300
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 6: he was like no, no, no.

1301
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: He told him like three or four times, don't don't like.

1302
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: Whipped this.

1303
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like come on, man, let's get out of this.

1304
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 7: This a you.

1305
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: Know what, you should go home? You're right about Yeah,

1306
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: he showed that he didn't want the wrong person to

1307
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: go to jail.

1308
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 4: Yes, but that doesn't take away from the fact that

1309
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 4: he could have explained it.

1310
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: Yes, he could have just explained to himself instead of

1311
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: going through all this rigama roll with. But whatever.

1312
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 3: So this movie ends with the diamond emerald whatever it

1313
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: was in the Crucifixion in the church.

1314
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: We zoom out and it's oh, fuck Dad.

1315
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the body of Jesus's heart, Eve's apple, I'm

1316
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: picking that apple off that tree man.

1317
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: The sun was like Beline somewhere.

1318
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: Somewhere.

1319
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 6: It's the roof of goddamn get the yard cut, little

1320
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 6: pump bitch.

1321
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: That was kind of funny. That was kind of funny.

1322
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: A little racist, but that was kind of funny. Uh.

1323
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 6: Any final thoughts, I enjoyed these man we go back

1324
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 6: to like can say they be making my top ten

1325
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 6: because it's just one of those movies that I just like,

1326
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's just I don't really have to

1327
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 6: contrary to what it is. I don't really have to

1328
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 6: think about it. Like it's not that deep.

1329
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: It's a fun time. It was movie to watch, and

1330
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:47,959
Speaker 1: I put those on my list some times.

1331
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,959
Speaker 4: Just ship that don't that ain't even that deep.

1332
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 5: A good game of Clue, Yeah, yeah, I raither watch Clue.

1333
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 5: The movie who was good, but I feel like it's

1334
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 5: that all right. This has been our review for last

1335
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 5: White Lotus.

1336
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: I think White Lotus is ten million times more interesting than.

1337
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 4: This White Loas. This is a good job.

1338
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: They get you to care about the characters. This does

1339
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: not get you to care about anybody.

1340
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 6: What you did it?

1341
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: I tell you, he said, he asked.

1342
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: It was one of thoughts, and this has been our

1343
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 3: review Friday, first second or not.

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01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: Because we are out peace Bye,