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Speaker 1: Well, Kamie has always there's so much going on in

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Speaker 1: Indiana comes to politics, and yes there is. Every year,

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Speaker 1: we're liking all the sessions over what in the world

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right, and then these guys just keep giving us plenty

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Speaker 1: of things and talk about here to make some sensitive

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Speaker 1: of it all one of the best in the business.

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Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle joins us. Now,

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Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we are at thirteen Republicans who have

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Speaker 1: said they support this redistricting effort in the Senate. They've

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Speaker 1: got to get to twenty five. Give us the latest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we heard from two Republicans this week, Eric Cook.

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Speaker 2: That's a big one because Senator Cook actually was the

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Speaker 2: Senate sponsor of the maps in twenty one and so

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Speaker 2: him coming out basically saying we're going to read youra

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Speaker 2: all my own product is kind of interested. He had

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Speaker 2: a basic one sentence statement that said he supports it.

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Speaker 2: It didn't explain why, but that's a big move. And

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Speaker 2: then last night, interestingly, Senator Jean Lysing, author a Republican,

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Speaker 2: came out against So now we're up to six nose publicly,

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Speaker 2: and she was basically annoyed at a couple of things,

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Speaker 2: a people committing to passing something without seeing what it

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Speaker 2: is because we have no maps out there too as

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Speaker 2: a proposal. She also is annoyed about all the outside

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Speaker 2: interests coming in and I'm sure you guys have gotten them.

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Speaker 2: I've gotten dozens of pects in the last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: And pressured, she says her fourteen year old grandson is

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Speaker 2: even getting them, and she's just not happy. She says

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Speaker 2: her rural district is against it, and she, you know,

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Speaker 2: doesn't like the tactics that are coming along with this discussion.

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Speaker 1: Have any of these lawmakers who are for it, have

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Speaker 1: they produced like a trove of emails or phone calls

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Speaker 1: town halls, and we've seen the people that are against it,

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Speaker 1: of these pro senators said, look, here's all this correspondence

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Speaker 2: That's that I've seen Sinata lysing even you know, said

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Speaker 2: that she she's apparently added up all the comments she's

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Speaker 2: been getting from her constituents and said only six percent

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Speaker 2: are in favor of the redistricting, at least from her

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Speaker 3: So Senator Lysning also says she would never vote yes

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Speaker 3: And we've been wondering that as well. What does the

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Speaker 2: I mean, there are a number of maps that have

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Speaker 2: can go online and create your own map, sure so,

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Speaker 2: but in terms of an official map, no, no one

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Speaker 2: has seen that yet. I think that you can pretty

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Speaker 2: few ways to do that and still keep it within range.

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Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I mean hopefully we'll see a map

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, Nicki Kelly for the Capital Chronicles, our guests.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk real quick because I'm getting the text messages.

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Speaker 1: You're getting them, many many other people are getting them.

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Speaker 1: There's like a boombardment now, these text messages about redistricting.

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Speaker 1: What do we know about the group groups plural that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a couple of groups. Fair Maps Indiana

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Speaker 2: being open and transparent and saying who is behind the text.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to get people to find petitions to contact

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Speaker 1: Do you get a feel on where this is headed,

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Speaker 1: because they've got to get to twenty five? They're at thirteen.

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Speaker 1: If you have been at this for six months and

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Speaker 2: They're clearly above thirteen in private conversations. I think they're

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Speaker 2: You know, I did find amusing and Senilor Licen's statement

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Speaker 1: Oh, very interesting. So you think though, that the thirteen

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, I heard. It's funny. Okay.

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Speaker 1: One of the Nikky Kellor from the Capitol Chronicle is

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Speaker 1: our guest. One of the things that's interesting to me,

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Speaker 1: and we got into this with Abdul yesterday. We talked

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Speaker 2: No, I've covered, you know, on both Republican side and

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Speaker 2: I've covered a lot of spring dinners and fall dinners

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Speaker 2: lot of events together. So I was curious about, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's the new The new thing is to you know,

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Speaker 2: just gather and and talk all they want and not

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Speaker 2: let anyone see what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Have they given you a reason and did they.

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Speaker 3: Tell you why?

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Speaker 2: Nope, just that they decided that it was a private

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Speaker 1: But Keith Kelly, the Capital Chronicle is our guest, are

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Speaker 1: you to speak of the you mentioned org Day and

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Speaker 1: obviously that is coming out next week Organization Day? Do

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Speaker 1: than the redistricting is gonna be for this upcoming session.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they keep talking about redoing the property tax bill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there would definitely be modifications to the

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Speaker 2: state finances due to the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how that kind of stuff is going. In

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Speaker 2: You know, there's not anything major hanging out there. I

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Speaker 2: know they're not going to hit They won't be tackling

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Speaker 2: road funds in a short session. That's a little too complicated.

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Speaker 2: They seem to do a lot on healthcare last year,

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Speaker 2: so I'm not sure you know what's left there. It's

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Speaker 2: probably going to be what a short session is supposed

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Speaker 2: to be, which is sort of just the important, not emergency,

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Speaker 2: but necessary things you have to do in between. And

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Speaker 2: we'll see if we get any sort of ideological stuff.

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Speaker 2: I can definitely see some some movement on issues about

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Speaker 2: you know, over the counter abortion drugs, things like that.

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Speaker 3: You had mentioned road funding and speaking of rolling down

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Speaker 3: the road, tell us about the new Indiana State Police fleet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's we had a reporter go out yesterday. They're

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Speaker 2: obviously replacing. They're going to slowly phase in these Dodge

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Speaker 2: we haven't seen blue cars in quite a while, and

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Speaker 2: like a couple I think only five Ford Mustangs that

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Speaker 2: during you know, high speed pursuits or you know, we've

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Speaker 3: Any reason why they were changing the model.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I think they just you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know of any particular reasons, just maybe they got

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Speaker 2: stick in that family and that we're going to the during.

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Speaker 3: And how much does that cost.

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Speaker 2: I think they've ordered about about five hundred of them,

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Speaker 2: so twenty six million is what they've spent so far,

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Speaker 2: and they'll sort of slowly phase them in. I think

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Speaker 2: they started they're starting with like twenty and then as

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Speaker 2: the Dodge chargers either let's say they get wrecked and

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Speaker 2: they're out of the system then or they hit certain mileage.

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Speaker 2: You know, once their mileage is too much, then they'll

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Speaker 2: you know, slowly work in the new Durangos.

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Speaker 1: All right, well that's twenty six million. But when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Nicky Kelly priceless, priceless night couple chronicle, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: It is Kendally Casey on ninety three WIBC